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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with

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Speaker 2: Carmen Vitale. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.

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Speaker 2: Mama Curry has entered the chat. You guys, we are back, baby.

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Speaker 2: I want to give a big thank you though, to Carmen,

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Speaker 2: Tracy and Nikki for holding down the fort while I

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Speaker 2: was out on maternity leave. But uh, Carmen, it's good

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Speaker 2: to be back. I'm missing your face though, you guys,

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Speaker 2: this is something new for me. I'm sure, as you

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Speaker 2: guys know, Carme's back in Chicago. I'm in LA. But

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be like if I'm like, you know, like

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Speaker 2: how you chat with your girls on the phone. I

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Speaker 2: feel like that's what this is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: No, it's been so long, It's been so long since

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Speaker 1: I've heard you in my ears. Though it's great. I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy. I know, I'm congratulations on everything. I hope.

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Speaker 1: Baby Jackson is doing incredibly well.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 2: Jackson is a huge sports fan. I mean she doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a choice because, like, what did I do the

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Speaker 2: whole time for the last five months? Watch every sport

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Speaker 2: that was on TV? Imaginable. So yeah, I'm like, what's

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Speaker 2: her first word gonna be. Is it gonna be a player?

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Speaker 2: Is it gonna be footballs.

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Speaker 1: My bets on Ati, my BET's on Atani right now.

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Speaker 2: Or something that's gonna be around the time, like baseball season.

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Speaker 2: I think like when she starts talking, which would be

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Speaker 2: absolutely hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Not mad about that.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what my money's on. Is a little show, hey,

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Speaker 1: coming out of little Jacksie's mouth.

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Speaker 2: We love it. We have so much to get to today,

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Speaker 2: you guys. We got a grandpa starting this week in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. We'll get to that in a moment. Is

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Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders. The future in Cleveland is Aaron Rodgers making

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Speaker 2: the Steelers better. We've got like a battle for the

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Speaker 2: top of the NFC West and North. We're gonna get

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Speaker 2: to college football playoff rankings. Was Notre Dame snubbed? We

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Speaker 2: have Notre Dame alone, Michael look Junior joining us in

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Speaker 2: our two. We also have NFL Networks Cynthia Freeland coming

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Speaker 2: on in about thirty minutes. Her Lions are in town,

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Speaker 2: coming to play the rams I O game, a huge,

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Speaker 2: huge game. I'm gonna be at that one which I'm

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Speaker 2: really excited about. Tomorrow. We got PC producer Bow with

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Speaker 2: us today, technical producer Chrisopherfett, and Martin Wise at the

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Speaker 2: news desk.

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Speaker 4: I've missed you guys.

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Speaker 2: Happy to be back with all of you familiar faces. Hi, Martin,

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Speaker 2: are you smiling?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: Oh, he can't hear he's talking, but I can't hear

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Speaker 2: what he's say. There we go. I was like, I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at everybody. Okay, but let's CARMI. Let's get to

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Speaker 2: the breaking news this morning that forty four year old

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers is coming out of retirement and starting for

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Speaker 2: the Colts on Sunday. Now, this man, let's just paint

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Speaker 2: the picture for you guys. He has not played a

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Speaker 2: game since twenty twenty. He is a father of what ten,

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Speaker 2: He is officially a grandfather, Yes, a grandfather, will be

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Speaker 2: playing in the NFL. The second one to do it,

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Speaker 2: starting at quarterback. I think Brett Favre was the other one.

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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, though, I thought this was a

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Speaker 2: joke at first, Like there's so much like deep fake

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Speaker 2: this felt like a wild movie plot, Like Rivers has

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Speaker 2: been out of the game for five years and he

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Speaker 2: hasn't been playing football. He has been coaching high school football.

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Speaker 2: I'm I am concerned for his safety. He is going

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Speaker 2: in for the last five years and now you're just

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Speaker 4: Here like amaze is where you get hurt? Like this

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Speaker 4: is where you seriously get hurt.

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Speaker 1: It's not just that he's going up against NFL talent

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Speaker 1: he's going up against the Seahawks. Yeah, we have an

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Speaker 4: That's an ad and then.

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Speaker 1: You have the Niners, the Jags, and then oh, by

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Speaker 1: You have two of the best pass rushers in the

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Speaker 1: So that is what's hysterical to me, where I'm just like, man,

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Speaker 2: At this point because I'm like, what are we doing

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, though, Alex. Where when Daniel Jones got

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Speaker 4: Not walked off the core after he tore his achilles too,

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Speaker 1: Wild and so then but then like the whispers started

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Speaker 4: It's just no, there's no way.

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Speaker 1: And then it was like actual reporting was saying no,

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Speaker 1: the Colts have reached out to Philip Rivers to gauge

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Speaker 1: his interest in doing this.

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Speaker 2: And did you hear his press conference where he goes, well,

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Speaker 2: I thought, my like that ship has sailed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, five years you were eligible, you.

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Speaker 2: over again in another five years. You can do it.

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Speaker 2: But the thing is is like he has it's not

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Speaker 1: He is like really asked how much he weighs yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like the other thing too, if he was like Tom

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Speaker 2: like your entire life is taking care of your body

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Speaker 2: different story, we might be having a different conversation here.

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Speaker 2: I just have so many questions, first one being who

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Speaker 4: Like, who still thinks this is a good idea?

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Speaker 1: I will say, I will say the Colts have one

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Speaker 1: so much of their offense is not hidden. Does not

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Speaker 1: Well, he's going to have the protection, he is going

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Speaker 1: Looks like I think Sauce Gardner is the only one

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Speaker 1: just need to do is be a game manager. And

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Speaker 1: I guess they thought that forty four year old Philip

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Speaker 2: So we're going to say, but think about this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're in our thirties, right, he retired in his thirties.

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Speaker 2: Every year when you get out of bed, something hurts

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Speaker 4: Like his body isn't in football condition.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I have, but I have to imagine that.

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Speaker 1: Obviously that's going to be paramount to what they're doing offensively,

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Speaker 2: But you can only do so much because now you

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Speaker 1: Great, yeah, well I know, I know exactly We're going

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Speaker 1: salivating at this, Mike Yes salivating at this with his

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Speaker 1: kind of seems like it. You have Aaron Rodgers doing

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Speaker 1: doing it on the sideline with him, which is hysterical,

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Speaker 2: So I'm just kind of like, I will say, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Goes, yeah, I don't even think Philip Rivers strikes to

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, like what is that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's like to me that just

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't wait, I can't. He better

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Speaker 2: That's all I have to say, Philipert, that's a missed

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Speaker 2: opportunity if they're not, because this is going to be

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Speaker 2: this is going to be must watch TV. But in

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Speaker 2: the sense where you know that emoji where you're peeking

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Speaker 2: be because I just he is a an older man.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say like forty four is an

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Speaker 1: Right now, yeah, the oldest player forty four years old,

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Speaker 1: like literally forty four years But I also can't imagine

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Speaker 1: They well, Brett Rippon, could you know come in and

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Speaker 1: be a game manager too. I mean, I just don't

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Speaker 1: think that you do this if you're the Indianapolis Colt

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Speaker 1: if you don't feel about it. So there's something that

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Speaker 1: telling them that to feel good about this, and I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to find out what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's wild because they still have a chance to shot

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Speaker 2: at winning the division, like they played the Jags in

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Speaker 2: the Texan still the third in the AFC South, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if this like works out, and like I it's

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Speaker 4: Have he who would play Philip Rivers?

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Speaker 4: Now, is he the future that is the big question.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that concerns me about this whole situation too,

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Speaker 2: Could big prove it moment.

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Speaker 1: It's all. Every single game is a prove it game.

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Speaker 2: Like obviously that's why he dropped to the fifth round.

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Speaker 2: He is not a fifth round draft pick. Like I

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Speaker 2: No, we will find out if it's Shadore the last

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Speaker 2: Com Harry Carme. It's officially a college football playoff time

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Speaker 2: and the rankings were announced this week. We got Indiana,

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Speaker 4: It did Notre Dame get snubbed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there are so many directions you can go

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Speaker 2: into this. I'm excited that we have Mike Golick, junior

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Speaker 4: But I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: This is what happens when you're not in a conference

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Speaker 1: I think they're being sore losers about not going into

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Speaker 1: are the only three loss team YEA that is ranked

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Speaker 1: in the top ten, and they were ranked over Notre Dame,

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Speaker 1: over Miami, and they were not They were not punished

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Speaker 1: for that blowout loss that they suffered in this SEC

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Speaker 1: championship to Georgia and the thinking behind that. And my

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Speaker 1: friend Nicole Auerbach, who does incredible work for NBC Sports

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Speaker 1: and does a bunch of stuff in college football, she

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Speaker 1: brought up the point that, all right, the committee decided

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Speaker 1: not to drop Bama in the way that they dropped

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Speaker 1: BYU for their blowout loss in a conference championship because

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Speaker 1: Wellbama had already beaten Georgia. Well Bama's initial ranking going

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Speaker 1: into that game had already baked that in. So they're

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Speaker 1: essentially getting credit for beating Georgia twice even though they

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Speaker 1: only did it once, and then they suffered a blowout

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Speaker 1: loss to Georgia and have an are a three loss team.

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Speaker 1: There's all these mental gymnastics going on with putting Bama

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Speaker 1: into the college football playoff when you look at the

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Speaker 1: way that and like the way that Alabama had been

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Speaker 1: playing towards the back end of the season like it

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Speaker 1: was night and day, as far as like Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: had like they were playing, well they were, they were

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Speaker 1: a very viable team. And I am like the last

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Speaker 1: person because like I grew up surrounded by Notre Dame fans,

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Speaker 1: and my whole thing was always like doing a conference already,

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Speaker 1: like what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: This is this is your fault.

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Speaker 1: But but I don't blame them from the sense of

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Speaker 1: just kind of the ambiguity of that. And then this

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Speaker 1: this all brings into the conversation of like, well, should

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Speaker 1: we even have conference championship games if teams are gonna

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Speaker 1: get punished for for playing an extra game? Like why

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Speaker 1: are we punishing teams for playing an extra game?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I think the whole system and the committee needs

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Speaker 2: to change. I mean, there's a twelve people who decide

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Speaker 2: the future of a billion dollar industry.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's and that's where thing is wild.

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Speaker 1: That's the issue too. And again I'm very excited to

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Speaker 1: talk to Mike about all of this because he actually

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Speaker 1: got to talk to Notre Dame ad Pabakua for his

477
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Speaker 1: podcast for the Echoes like last week, so that was

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Speaker 1: another reason. And like so aside from just being a

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame alem and still very connected to the program, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mike has talked to the major decision makers at Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame about all of this. I'm very excited to talk

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Speaker 1: to him.

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Speaker 2: Say for that. In the second hour, Banala check in

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Speaker 2: with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

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Speaker 1: To have Army and Navy.

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Speaker 3: Army with thirteen points in the second quarter, now thirteen

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Speaker 3: to seven, the lead for the Black Knights over the

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Speaker 3: Midshipman a field goal as half expired for Army to

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Speaker 3: get that thirteen point there and now in Major League

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Speaker 3: for Major League Football?

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Speaker 1: What am I doing?

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Speaker 3: I read your rundown today and about the winter meetings,

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Speaker 3: and that's what was in the top of my head.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why more teams aren't doing more insane.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: The Colts signed Philip Rivers to the fifty three MAU

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Speaker 3: roster of the forty four year old expected to start

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Speaker 3: against the Seahawks on Sunday. He was eligible for the

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Speaker 3: Pro Football Hall of Fame this upcoming class, but now

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Speaker 3: that he will be playing in a game, which is

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Speaker 3: a weird, ridiculous statement to say that clock now restarts,

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Speaker 3: he has to wait five more years. So the earliest

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Speaker 3: to say Philip Rivers retires at the end of this

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Speaker 3: assuming so he would be eligible for the Hall of Film,

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Speaker 3: will be twenty thirty. Cowboys keep Traymon Diggs on IR

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Speaker 3: for the game against the Vikings. He was practiced this week.

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Speaker 3: It was limit in practice. Was hoping to get out there,

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Speaker 3: but not able to go. The Green Bay Packers added

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Speaker 3: Emmanuel Wilson to the injury report for the game at Denver.

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Speaker 4: He's sick.

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Speaker 3: Running Back Josh Jacobs already questionable with a knee injury.

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Speaker 3: Thomas Harper for the Lions will be missing. He's downgraded out.

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Speaker 3: The safety has a concussion. They also ruled our guard

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Speaker 3: Christian Mahogany today leg injury, and Miami Dolphins head coach

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Speaker 3: Miam mc daniel said today that running back to bon

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Speaker 3: E Chan expected to play on Monday Night football against

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Speaker 3: the Steelers. And I'm sure that Carmen and all the

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Speaker 3: other people in Chicago are happy to hear that the

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Speaker 3: Bear's optimistic that Romadonde will play Sunday. He's dealing with

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Speaker 3: that foot injury that's been bothering the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, Thank you Martin. All right, you're

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Speaker 2: listening to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry with Carmen Vitally.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for spending your Saturday after doon with us.

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Speaker 2: It is time for our first guest, one of my favorites,

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Speaker 2: to have on our show. So with it be my

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Speaker 2: first week back, I had to bring back the best

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Speaker 2: in the game, NFL Networks analytic expert host of Numbers

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Speaker 2: Game Gordy In Clyde's mom, Cynthia Freelan, Hey.

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Speaker 5: Guys, welcome back, Alex. Congratulations, good stuff here.

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Speaker 2: Oh we love Okay, Cynthia, we got to dive into

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Speaker 2: the fact that we have a grandpa starting in the

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Speaker 2: NFL tomorrow, Philip Rivers coming out of retirement and starting

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Speaker 2: for the Colts at forty four years old. What was

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Speaker 2: your initial reaction when you heard this and what are

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Speaker 2: your expectations, like realistic expectations from him tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: My initial reaction was why, Yeah, and because, I.

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Speaker 8: Mean it's not just flickr like we've seen.

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Speaker 5: Quarterbacks play at forty four before. Yeah, that's kind of

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Speaker 5: young to be a grandpa. But the doctor's being crazy.

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Speaker 5: But ultimately, do you want to get hit you haven't

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Speaker 5: played in eighteen hundred days.

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Speaker 2: Concerns you want to say, gets kind of hit?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially going against who he's I mean he's got

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Speaker 1: Seattle immediately, and it kind of has a gauntlet down

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Speaker 1: the stretch.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Seattle, San Francisco, Jacksonville, and Houston.

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Speaker 8: So not a not a.

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Speaker 5: Great not a great mix of teams to potentially base,

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Speaker 5: but you know, it's at least it's fun, it's interesting.

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Speaker 5: It keeps the cults, uh, you know in the news.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I think I was like, why is

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Speaker 5: he doing this too? This poor man?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a joke. I literally thought it

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Speaker 2: was like an AI joke. Like, excuse me, sir, you

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Speaker 2: have been retired for five years. You're not in football shape.

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Speaker 2: You are going up against like grown men who are

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Speaker 2: going to be salivating at like the thought of just

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Speaker 2: taking you down. You have ten kids, you are a grandfather.

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Speaker 2: Why are you doing this? You were eligible for the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, like just you were in the.

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Speaker 5: In the finalists. Was one of the twenty sixth finalists.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't even just eligible it was, but he was in.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he'll what it'll be like twenty thirty or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Now yeah, starts still, she starts back over.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to your lions, who are in La

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Speaker 2: taking on the ramps tomorrow. Yeah, we do. Who do

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Speaker 2: you have taking this game? Give us your numbers, break

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Speaker 2: it all down. I can tell just by that reaction

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Speaker 2: you don't have lions.

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Speaker 8: I do not, though.

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Speaker 5: I was just missing too many pieces.

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Speaker 8: I mean they just ruled out a guard.

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Speaker 5: Now as well. And it's you know, it was one

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Speaker 5: thing when you had maybe one corner out, but now

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Speaker 5: you have Terry On Arnold literally had surgery this week.

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Speaker 5: Brian branch I believe his surgery was last week, but

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Speaker 5: it was within the last two weeks and his achilles

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Speaker 5: Kirby Joseph not playing, like, I just don't know how

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Speaker 5: you really have a chance against Kuka a Kua and

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Speaker 5: all the different ways that that offense can kill me,

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Speaker 5: DeVante Adams and his short touchdowns, all of those things.

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Speaker 5: It's just not a good matchup for a team that's

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Speaker 5: reeling with injuries. If it's just it's yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 5: going to go. I don't watch them lose.

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Speaker 8: I didn't know that growing up.

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Speaker 2: I will be there on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: Your Rams fans, you can your year ago, the well,

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Speaker 1: the Lions are part of this. And you know as

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Speaker 1: well as anyone sin that the playoff field changes over

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Speaker 1: by about what half every year, And I just you know,

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Speaker 1: looking forward, we like at the beginning of a season,

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Speaker 1: you're like, but what teams could possibly miss the playoffs

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Speaker 1: that like, you know, didn't that made them last year?

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Speaker 1: Like these like these guys all look viable and that

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Speaker 1: the other and now sitting atop the AFC, you had

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos and the New England Patriots and the

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. By the way, and then atop the NFC

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Speaker 1: it's the Rams, Packers Eagles, which I think was maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit more predictable. Though things seem even more

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Speaker 1: volatile on the top of the NFC than they do

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Speaker 1: on the AFC. But what, like the contenders that we

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Speaker 1: thought were going to be there aren't, So what what

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Speaker 1: contributes to all of this? I want to know if

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Speaker 1: you have any like fun numbers when it comes to

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Speaker 1: all of the things that have changed over and why

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Speaker 1: that's happened, and if parody really is an all time high,

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Speaker 1: because it certainly seems like it.

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Speaker 5: Well, first off, the one thing that I find bananas

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Speaker 5: is that if the Carolina wins this week and then

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Speaker 5: they beat the Bucks next week, they will clinch the

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Speaker 5: AFC South. We don't even need to get to at

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Speaker 5: which is like, that's wild because they've won four time straight.

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Speaker 5: It looked like they were coasting into five. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I just thought that was nuts too. But I mean,

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Speaker 5: number one, it's parody. Number two, it's you know, we're

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Speaker 5: seeing some like who the good coaches are versus the

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Speaker 5: not good coaches when it comes to being able to,

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Speaker 5: you know, teach concepts. You know, you have these coaching

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Speaker 5: trees and you know, you whatever, people get jobs. The

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Speaker 5: hiring cycle is very confusing to me, even though I've

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Speaker 5: watched it now for like two decades. But whatever, you know,

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Speaker 5: and you're starting to see now, Okay, Like, of course,

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Speaker 5: the injuries always played into it, because parody's always been there.

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Speaker 5: But I think now we're really starting to see who's

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Speaker 5: better at being able to identify players in free agency

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Speaker 5: and in the draft, and who's worse because between the

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Speaker 5: transfer portal and between some teams being exceptional with their

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Speaker 5: cap strategy and other teams being terrible at it, you're

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Speaker 5: starting to see that's that makes a big difference.

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Speaker 2: Okay. I want to move to the Browns and Shador Sanders,

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Speaker 2: who has been named their QB one for the rest

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Speaker 2: of the season. He looked solid in Week fourteen despite

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Speaker 2: the loss. Can he prove that he is the guy

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Speaker 2: the future for Cleveland with like four really tough last

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Speaker 2: games of the season.

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Speaker 5: So the thing that you said there is for Cleveland

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Speaker 5: that I will take. That's the asterisk for me because

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Speaker 5: I don't know if this regime is going to be

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Speaker 5: the same. I don't know what's going to happen there,

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Speaker 5: what kind of just happened in the off season, But

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Speaker 5: I think should door standers can prove that he can

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Speaker 5: be a starter in this league. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: it's necessarily going to be with the I don't know

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Speaker 5: what the Browns decisions will be going forward with a

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Speaker 5: lot of things. I mean, they've got just you know,

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Speaker 5: some things that feel weird there. But you know, I

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Speaker 5: don't know what happens there. But I think he can

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Speaker 5: prove that he is certainly a start. The fact that

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Speaker 5: you know, you started, we started this conversation talking about

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Speaker 5: Philip Rivers starting. There's not thirty two qualified people, so

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Speaker 5: you're you're telling me, you know, like it's better to

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Speaker 5: have a forty four year old off the couch like

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Speaker 5: than should do or standers like I just I don't.

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Speaker 5: I can't get behind that. So that's kind of where

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Speaker 5: where I thought that. Again, do I know if it's

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Speaker 5: with the Browns, I don't know. It feels like there's

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Speaker 5: some upheaval there that might get sorted in a different

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Speaker 5: like strategy way with you know, front office thing. But like,

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Speaker 5: I think he proves that he can be a starter somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I want to stick in the AFC because the interesting

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Speaker 1: part of you know, so the Chiefs are on the

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Speaker 1: outside looking in right now, with the playoffs at thirteen

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Speaker 1: percent chance currently to make, it doesn't look like it's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. The Bills, on the other hand, like

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Speaker 1: salvaged unfortunately sorry I sent against your Lions. They salvaged

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Speaker 1: some hot But the Patriots are returning to power in

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Speaker 1: the AFC, and it just leaves me to wonder, like,

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Speaker 1: did the Bills miss their window to take hold of

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Speaker 1: this conference and to get Josh Allen hoisting into a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP Trophy.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think when you're looking at the Bills,

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Speaker 5: I don't think their windows close yet. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: think they have a lot of questions to solve, namely

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Speaker 5: the run defense. I mean, you know, wide receiver will

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Speaker 5: be a question. But you know they've made some interesting decisions,

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Speaker 5: good bed whatever every team does. But I don't think

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Speaker 5: their windows necessarily close. Do I think this is the

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Speaker 5: season that's going to happen. Unlikely because number one just

679
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 5: being a wild card makes things harder. But the AFC

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Speaker 5: could be potentially in the playoffs without Patrick Maholmes, without

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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson. So I think if the Bills get in.

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Speaker 5: There's a reason that they are tied with Denver for

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Speaker 5: the for the best Super Bowl odds in terms of

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Speaker 5: winning the Super Bowl this season, so I wouldn't count

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Speaker 5: them out yet, even though it seems interesting with like

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Speaker 5: the Drake Mays of the world, like by the way,

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Speaker 5: New England is, the Broncos and the Bills are tied

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Speaker 5: for first in most sportsbooks and second would be the Pats.

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Speaker 5: But I don't know if the Pats are ready yet

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Speaker 5: with commendaries to like Milton Williams and all those guys

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Speaker 5: on defense too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned the Chiefs Karmi when you brought up

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Speaker 2: the AFC, so they do not it looks like the

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Speaker 2: dynasty's over. Let's just be real here. They're on the

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Speaker 2: outside looking in right now in the playoff picture, how

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Speaker 2: did like a first, what's been their biggest issue? And

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Speaker 2: how do they rebuild to get back next year?

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Speaker 5: I mean, they've lost six games by one score, so

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Speaker 5: it's not like they're sitting there being you know, it's

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Speaker 5: not like.

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Speaker 8: This like oh, oh my gosh, whatever.

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Speaker 5: We just expect so much from them because of the

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Speaker 5: nine seasons of dominance that you're just you're viewed in

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Speaker 5: a different light. I mean, number one, this has been

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Speaker 5: their O line right now, they're tomorrow they're starting with

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Speaker 5: without three of their you know, I guess the guys

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Speaker 5: who projected them to start Joshua's didn't play a lot

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Speaker 5: of the seasons. So that's why I'm kind of, you know,

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Speaker 5: asterisking it like that. But you know, the between that

710
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Speaker 5: and between the defense not showing up consistently, which is

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Speaker 5: not usually what you see usually from a Steve Spagnolo defense.

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Speaker 9: You see maybe.

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Speaker 5: In September some like confusion, but then you know, come October,

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Speaker 5: come November, like this defense is crazy. Last week we

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Speaker 5: saw maybe twelve minutes of the type of defense that

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Speaker 5: you thought you were going to see. It was the

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Speaker 5: beginning of the second half in that game, but they

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Speaker 5: couldn't sustain it. Then Trend mcduffy gets hurt at their corner,

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Speaker 5: and you know, like it just it it's uh, it's

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Speaker 5: not the defense you thought either. In addition, it in

721
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Speaker 5: combining that with the O line woes and the fact

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Speaker 5: that they had a bunch of games with like fourteen

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Speaker 5: to fifteen penalties, which is not normal for them, it's

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Speaker 5: just not just not their season.

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Speaker 4: Okay, real quick before we let you go, are you

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Speaker 4: taking chiefs of chargers?

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Speaker 5: I am taking the chiefs because I know, Okay, I know,

728
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Speaker 5: because here's the thing. Ye Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert got

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00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 5: pressured sixty eight percent of his dropbacks.

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Speaker 4: Last but still win, Like you still got it done?

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Speaker 5: They still do you think you're gonna turn Patrick Willhomes

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Speaker 5: over four times? I'm just that's my I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That's the hard part.

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Speaker 6: Like it's possible.

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Speaker 8: I'm not suggesting as a slam dunk.

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Speaker 5: I'm not suggesting as a slam dunk. But I think

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Speaker 5: this is the game where you know, we see a

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Speaker 5: little bit more the chiefs with they're they're not gonna

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Speaker 5: let us stop talking about them yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's fair. We love you, Cynthia. Thank you

741
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Speaker 2: for coming again.

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Speaker 8: Doctor good dude.

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Speaker 2: All right, bye bye. When we come back, the Dues

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Speaker 2: and the don't and sports. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

746
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from Los Angeles.

747
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Speaker 2: Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us. I

748
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Speaker 2: don't they've ever heard this. Chris a song, but I'm

749
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: really into the holiday music. KARMI like this year was

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Speaker 2: like bring it on as fast as you can. This

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00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: was the first time before Thanksgiving I started decorating for Christmas.

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Speaker 1: And it's so funny because I've for so much of

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Speaker 1: my adult life I've lived in places that don't actually

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Speaker 1: get cold, and growing up in Chicago, it's like, you know,

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00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: the holiday season, you don't have to do anything to

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00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: like force it, Like it just comes because the weather

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00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: gets cold, it starts to snow whatever, and like it

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Speaker 1: just makes sense. But like everywhere else I lived when

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Speaker 1: it didn't get cold, I like forced the season. Yeah,

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00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: And so now that I'm back in Chicago, I figured out,

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Speaker 1: like I just started listening to my Chrismas playlist, which

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Speaker 1: I do take very seriously. I have like two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty songs on my Christmas who.

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Speaker 2: Share that I will.

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Speaker 1: It's got every year every Christmas, everything from Luther Vandross

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Speaker 1: to Cascade. Her put out a Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Album by the way, you know, no did not.

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Speaker 1: But it's just really funny. This year, like it just

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00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: it fell into place so organically. But I did still

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Speaker 1: start decorating in like mid November just because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to make the place cozy and I want it to

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Speaker 1: be cozy for as long as same.

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Speaker 2: I love that. All right, guys, it is time for

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Speaker 2: the dues and the don'ts in sports highlight.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 6: And putting a spotlight on.

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Speaker 2: The don't the subject brings me no joy.

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Speaker 1: That's insane.

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Speaker 6: It's time for the dues and the dots in sports.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to start with the do and do

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00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: have fun with your team. Last Sunday, after the Texans

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00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 2: beat the Chiefs, c J Stroud went around giving everybody

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00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: high fives, but he left one very important person hanging,

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Speaker 2: the owner of the Texans, Cal McNair. So for three

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Speaker 2: days they did this really hilarious social media post where

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Speaker 2: he was just waiting for that high five with his

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Speaker 2: hand in the air. He was walking around the facility,

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Speaker 2: he was working on his computer, he was eating in

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Speaker 2: the cafeteria and just had his hand up the entire time.

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Speaker 2: People would come by and try to high five and

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Speaker 2: he's like, no, no, no, we're saving it for CJ.

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00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: And then after three days they posted a video CJ

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Speaker 2: finally giving him a high five, and.

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Speaker 4: I just I love that he had that like sense

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Speaker 4: of humor.

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Speaker 2: Like my favorite part.

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Speaker 1: Of that was that CJ was clearly not clued in.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea. Finally saw cal Yeah, he was

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00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: so confused. Yeah, like what and he's like why, like

801
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, the camera's there whatever, and he's like, okay, yeah,

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00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: vibe like he just had no clue.

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Speaker 2: It was going very unintentional when he missed his high five,

804
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: Like it was not like he did not see him.

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Speaker 1: No, sure, and then I didn't know that social decided

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00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: the social media department decided to put this all together.

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00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: But props to them. That was fantastic And for Kal

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Speaker 1: McNair to play along incredible, Right I do and A don't?

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00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: That are both the same. All right, so do it

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Speaker 1: for the plot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Philip Rivers okay.

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Speaker 1: Because this is like we talked about it, how he

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Speaker 1: was eligible for the Hall of Him he's delaying. He's

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame and my this is this is

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Speaker 1: this is like my fiance put out a tweet okay,

816
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: which did so many numbers and it was essentially like

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00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers costumes, well, five more years of waiting for

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, just to throw the football around

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00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 1: with the boys one more time, and I just think

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00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: it's it's phenomenal and it's a great story to tell

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Speaker 1: your kids and clearly your grandkids if you're Philip Rivers

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00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: his oldest is twenty three. As a kid. It's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I love but you should always do it for the plot.

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Speaker 1: So don't do it for the plot. Now, Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 1: because they took down their positivity rabbit after just four days. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you hadn't seen it, they put up a positivity rabbit,

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00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: a ViBe's bunny. It was like a twenty foot tall

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Speaker 1: like it wasn't Easter Bunny.

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Speaker 2: It was Easter Bunny.

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Speaker 1: It was an Easter bunny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And my friend Ashton Sullivan, who does work in Philadelphia,

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00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: covers the Eagles locally. She asked some of the offensive linemen, like,

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Speaker 1: what's the deal with this gigantic inflatable and they were like,

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00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: we just wanted to bring some vibes. So it sounds

836
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: like it came from the lineman. But after the Eagles

837
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: lost to the Chargers, it was taken down after just

838
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: four days, and you were just like, this was you

839
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: just proved to the league that vibes are so bad

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00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: right now because everybody was like, oh, no, vibes aren't

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00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: like we just we just wanted a ViBe's money, but

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00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: like we're not sad, no, and I'm like, yess you are.

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00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: It was bad. I mean you even heard like Saquon

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00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: Barkley was asked about it and he was like, I

845
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: just don't get it, Like it just it just didn't

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Speaker 2: make sex.

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Speaker 1: Sirianni is like distancing himself from it, and you're just like,

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Speaker 1: if you're first of all, if you're gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for the plot, everybody needs to be on board, and

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Speaker 1: it needs to be because everybody is.

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Speaker 2: Having fun fun. Yeah, it just didn't make sense. It

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00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: was just weird. You lost sight of like the good

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00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: locker room vibes just giving it was giving trying too

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00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 2: hard and things are.

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00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: Still bad in Philly right now, and it's very apparent

856
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: that things are still bad in Philly, and it is

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00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: it's affecting my confidence and then going down like this

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00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: last stretch of the season and into the playoffs. They

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00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: will make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just weird and locker room vibes matter. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I have a don't don't fall Big Wave surfing Challenge

862
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: in Portugal, the naz Beast has started and these waves

863
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: are insane, you guys. It's the biggest wave in the world.

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00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 2: They are between fifty and sixty five feet today and

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Speaker 2: the wipeouts have been like that's a thing of nightmares.

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Speaker 2: It is like a giant tsunami wall coming at you.

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Speaker 2: I have like been the wipeouts like have been sending

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Speaker 2: me this morning. They are so insane.

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Speaker 1: To get to the service then, like with a fifty

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Speaker 1: foot wave, you're essentially having to swim through the water.

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Speaker 2: Wid Yeah, it's wild. All right, Bran to take a

872
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Speaker 2: quick right here when we come back the race to

873
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Speaker 2: the top in the NFL this weekend, don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Hour two and we get back. Welcome back to hour

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Speaker 2: two of Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with

876
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.

877
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm coming to you live from La Wall. Carmi is

878
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: in Chicago and Carnie and we talked about this earlier,

879
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: but you guys are about to have the coldest game

880
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 2: in Soldier field history this weekend.

881
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Speaker 1: One of them. And what's funny is I've actually been

882
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: at one of the others.

883
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: Too, Okay, any picture is it like when you walk

884
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 2: outside your nose hairs freeze, because that's like the first

885
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: thing I remember. I'm born and raised in La at

886
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: the Beach. I remember the first time I was in

887
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: a cold environment. I didn't realize you needed gloves and

888
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: a beanie and everything. And I set out the front

889
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: door and I took a breath and I was like,

890
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: oh my.

891
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: God, totally. Well the way I can describe it because

892
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: we were we actually before the show, my fiance and

893
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: I went out and the dumpture has started dropping. No, Like,

894
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: we went out to lunch, and we walked from the

895
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: train and we did all of that. But there is

896
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: when it is this cold, when it's in single digits

897
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: and the windchill and stuff. It's not necessarily like that

898
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: your nose hairs freeze or whatever, because especially as women

899
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: like it's hard to you know, know if that's happening

900
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I can just describe it as in

901
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: your lungs, you can feel the cold sitting there. Oh,

902
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: and that's what it felt like, even though you're like

903
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: breathing through your nose and like you know, you can

904
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Speaker 1: have the baliklava on, you can have like just your

905
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: eyes basically, you know, just they're they're the only thing

906
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: that are things that are exposed and it's still breathing

907
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: in the air is the hard part. But you do

908
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: need to have gloves and if you're going to be

909
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: out like outside. So for the people that are doing

910
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: sideline for this game, this kind of that whatever. There

911
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: have been so many advances in technology as far as

912
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: like heated fast What about the.

913
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: Players, right, have you talked to them this week about

914
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: like France that hurts.

915
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: I was that house hall? Was that house hall? This

916
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: week we're talking to players and I mean guys that

917
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: have been here for a while, like they have. They

918
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Speaker 1: had the heated benches, they have this that the other

919
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: What really concerns me is that we talked to Caleb

920
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: Williams about it, okay, and Caleb Williams was like, well,

921
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: elements and the elements and weather don't really bother me.

922
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: What And I'm like, what, that's not the places you

923
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: think it is, because well he said he's played in

924
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: some cold games, but I can't imagine it's been this

925
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: cold when there is expected to be double digit negative

926
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: double digit winship, like it could be as low as

927
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: minus fifteen or feel like mins team with the windshill

928
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: in this game. Yeah, And I'm like, I hope that

929
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: you're just trying to flex because if you're not actually

930
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: taking any other precautions because also think about it as

931
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and the way the Bears offense is set up,

932
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: it very methodically goes down the field because it leans

933
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: on the run game, so that you're talking ten to

934
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: thirteen play drives, yeah, down the field, and so that

935
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Speaker 1: means you are away from the heated benches and the

936
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: heat and the heaters and the warmers for that amount

937
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: of time. How are you keeping your hand warm? You

938
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Speaker 1: have a muff and if you have a muff, like

939
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: Tom Brady talked about it in Bear's Packers actually where

940
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: he would actually section off one side of the muff

941
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: so like it wasn't open to try and trap as

942
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: much heat in there for his hand. Because your hand

943
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: at your hand is exposed, you are losing feeling and

944
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: you are losing grip, and you are like that is

945
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: the thing where I'm just like this, y'all have to

946
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: you have to prepare for this, and like there's the cleats.

947
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: The spikes on your cleats have to be different because

948
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: the ground is harder and frozen. Like, there are so

949
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: many little things that, I mean, the Bear's equipment department,

950
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: to their credit, knows how to do all these things.

951
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: But as players, you have to be on board with

952
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: that and there are different ways that you have to play.

953
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: Then if your spikes are longer this that the other.

954
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: So it's going to be very interesting. And these are

955
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks going against each other in Caleb Williams and

956
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: Shadar Sanders that are both kind of like, nah, I

957
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: can play through anything, blah blah blah blah blah, and

958
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is different.

959
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: Well, at least for Shaudor he played in Colorado and

960
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: was in the cold, but Caleb Williams was in La

961
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: and like it was.

962
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is from out outside the Daily area, so

963
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: he's from he's from that area where. But again it's

964
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: still a different cold here in Chicago. And Soldier Field

965
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: is right on the lake as well, so you get

966
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: like the wreeze. That's why the windshill is so harsh

967
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: because I think the temperature is supposed to be between

968
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: like seven and ten degrees, which is fine, but it's

969
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: because like the being right by the lake, the windshill

970
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: then knocks it down and makes it feel about twenty

971
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: degrees colder. Yeah, and again the last game I was

972
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: a that was like this. I was a fan, and

973
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: I had like handwarmers that I had so many layers,

974
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: and then I still had to go into the place.

975
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: This where like when like you see the viral videos

976
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: that they bring out their drinks and they freeze, like yes, no.

977
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: That happens, like that's happened to me, where like you

978
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: can't even have a beer because it ends up. Yes,

979
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: and so like the Bears. The Bears already sent out

980
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: a thing to fans that said they will be having

981
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: you know a lot of cider, hot chocolate coffee, like

982
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: how really hot drinks. Yeah, so because otherwise everything else

983
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: is just going to freeze. They have warming centers, although

984
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: they're not allowing fans to bring in cardboard this time,

985
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: which is I don't know why. I mean, like I

986
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: get that it's more clean up and whatever, but cardboard

987
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: is used to help protect yourself from stuffer from the No,

988
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: like the benches in the seats, which a lot of

989
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: them are metal, So a lot of people sit on

990
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: cardboard or the concrete where your feet are. They stand

991
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: on concrete or on cardboard. But like so like you

992
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: can't it buffers the cold. I mean, that's the kind

993
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: of stuff you're talking about as a pan So as

994
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: a player, sure they have heated benches and everything like that,

995
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: but when you're on.

996
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: The field, it's a big factor.

997
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: It's a huge factor.

998
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 4: It's a big deal.

999
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, and this game matters.

1000
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 4: It does matter, and let's.

1001
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: Get to like, let's get to that because four games

1002
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: left in the regular season and we have a tight

1003
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: race to the top and a few divisions here, especially

1004
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: the NFC West and the NFC North. Let's start in

1005
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: the NFC West. Rams currently at the top, number one

1006
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: seed in the NFC at ten and three, but you

1007
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: got the Seahawks also ten and three right behind them,

1008
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: currently five seed in the NFC forty nine ers six seeds,

1009
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 2: I mean, NFC West, you have three playoff teams right now,

1010
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: which is like impressive considering I again, like it's been

1011
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 2: a moment since I've been on but before the season,

1012
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: I said Rams were gonna win the division. Forty nine

1013
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 2: Ers were gonna be tough. The only thing helping them

1014
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: was they have the one of the easiest schedules in

1015
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: the league. But let's start with the Rams, because they

1016
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: can clinch their playoff spot with a win tomorrow against

1017
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: the Lions, and then Thursday they play again and they

1018
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: play Seattle, which is a huge division game. Obviously, we

1019
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: talked to Cynthia earlier and all the injuries that the

1020
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: Lions are facing right now coming into this game, I

1021
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: am feeling good that this is going to be a

1022
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 2: favorable Rams game in La at sofar tomorrow. But there's

1023
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: just I'm I'm happy for this Rams team. I'm not surprised,

1024
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: but I'm happy for them because before the season started,

1025
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 2: we were talking about how much longer can Matthew Stafford

1026
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: go the Rams restructure it his contract to keep them.

1027
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: They picked up Devonte Adams, which everyone kind of brushed

1028
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 2: off as kind of a secondary wide receiver. No one

1029
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 2: was looking at as like a huge get and they

1030
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: were looking at Puka, who is like still the guy.

1031
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 2: But when you look at Stafford, I mean, he's led

1032
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: the Rams to the top of the NFC. He's first

1033
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: in touchdown passes with thirty five, and he leads by

1034
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 2: a lot, but next is dak and Goff with twenty

1035
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,479
Speaker 2: six behind him. For some passer rating, DeVante Adams leads

1036
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: the league in touchdowns with fourteen. Like I I am

1037
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 2: very impressed with this Rams team right now.

1038
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm well And you also look at what Sean McVay

1039
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: is doing. Yeah, because he has adjusted his scheme and

1040
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: evolved his scheme because for so much of I think

1041
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: what Sean McVay is known for is the eleven personnel

1042
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: set and kind of bringing that to the coaching tree

1043
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: between Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay permeates throughout like the

1044
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: league where you have basically half the coaches are from

1045
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: this tree. And it popularized this spread offense, the eleven

1046
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: personnel offense with the three wide receivers on the field.

1047
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: But what are the Rams doing now? They are leading

1048
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: the league in thirteen personnel. They've started using tight ends

1049
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: to the most insane degree. And which is which is what?

1050
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 8: You know?

1051
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: I've had this discussion a couple of times now this season,

1052
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: where like you know, football is a cyclical sport. It

1053
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: evolves in certain ways with different wrinkles and all of

1054
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And I think that the next

1055
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 1: position to really pop is going to be the tight

1056
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: end because of all the things you can do out

1057
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: of it, and the Rams are the shining example and

1058
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: leading this kind of charge as to how this the

1059
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: offense is going to evolve, the NFL offense in general

1060
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: is going to evolve. The one thing that surprises me

1061
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: is because think about where we were at the start

1062
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: of the season with Matthew Stafford. He was going through

1063
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: his back issues. He's going into these like the the

1064
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: Winnebago or whatever it was. We were just like gods,

1065
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: there was it was. It was a gigantic question mark,

1066
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: like this can't be good. He's going into some weird

1067
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: crowing like what he's he's hurt, he's old, he's this,

1068
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: he's that, and he has come out whatever happened in

1069
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: that cloud chamber.

1070
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: I want me.

1071
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: You have Davante Adams look like he did four or

1072
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: five years ago, and it's all it's all going well

1073
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: for the Rams, but they right on their heels. You

1074
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: have the Seahawks. You still have short by the short

1075
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: week too.

1076
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: They play Sunday Lions Seahawks Thursday.

1077
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: The Rams and the Seahawks have the first and second

1078
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: highest chances to get the one seed in the NFC

1079
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: period at this point. So the Rams currently have a

1080
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: forty one percent chance at the one seed, the Seahawks

1081
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: have a thirty two percent chance, and then you go

1082
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: all the way down to the Niners or the Packers,

1083
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: who have an eleven percent chance. So there's like the

1084
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: NFC West, it's the it's the NFC West and like.

1085
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Speaker 1: But what's wild is that the NFC North is the

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00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: only division in all of football right now that doesn't

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00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: have at least one team eliminated from the postseason. So

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Speaker 1: the Vikings have a less than one percent chance, but

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00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: they are not technically eliminated, and so they are the

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00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: only divisions that have all.

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Speaker 2: Four teams height like the way, like every game you're

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00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 2: seeing a shuffle between the Bears, Bears.

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00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: The lines, and they went from the first the one

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00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: seed in the NFC to the seventh seed because of

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00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: one loss to the Packers. And what's interesting to me

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Speaker 1: about the Packers in particular this game against the Broncos,

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00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: despite the fact it's an AFC opponent, if they lose

1098
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: this game, it could be the different difference between them

1099
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: hosting a wild card game and just playing in one,

1100
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: which is really crazy to think because again it's not

1101
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: a conference opponent, but it has implications on their seating

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Speaker 1: and if they get to host a playoff game, and

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00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: so it's like everything is so volatile for the NFC.

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Speaker 1: That's the word I keep using. Is it because it

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00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: because it is? It is just vital.

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Speaker 2: We We haven't had a moment to talk about this yet,

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00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: and I just have to say, Carmen, your bears this season,

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00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: Holy guacamole. They are fun to watch. The five shig

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00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: comeback went more than half their wins were like, come

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Speaker 2: from behind, They're good. How are you feeling about this?

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00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: They come from behind. I'm stressed, Alex, I've been. They're stressful.

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00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: They're good.

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00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 4: This is what they're not always wanted.

1114
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: They're not good yet, Like I don't trust it yet.

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00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: They will be good when I can trust. I cannot.

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00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: They're getting it done.

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00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: I trust Ben Johnson. I can tell you that much.

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00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: Everything that he's been and I've talked, you know, at

1119
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: tsing about all of this is the foundation that he

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Speaker 1: is laying. The bones of this team are good. Watching

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Speaker 1: Kiley Williams play football, though, is one of the most

1122
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Speaker 1: stressful experiences that you can have in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 1: And that is where like and.

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Speaker 2: Like I get it.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't speak to can he get there? I think

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00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: he's got He sure has the right guy. If he's

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00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: gonna get there, it's gonna be with Ben Johnson. I

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Speaker 1: holy and completely trust that. Yeah, but it is a

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00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: stressful experience. I do not think this is a viable

1130
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: team going into the playoffs to actually make a super

1131
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: Bowl run this year. But it is a lot more

1132
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: like it's fun that they are developed. They are winning

1133
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: while they're developing, because that's not something I necessarily saw coming. Yeah,

1134
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: and it speaks to you know, we heard Cynthia talk about,

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00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, you're kind of separating the really good coaches

1136
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 1: from you know, the coaches that maybe aren't as good,

1137
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: and you could really identify and evaluate coaching right now.

1138
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: And I think that that's what is really cool about

1139
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: Chicago is I am optimistic because they got that coaching

1140
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: higher right full stop.

1141
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was everything that was the Bears future.

1142
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: I'm happy for them.

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00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 4: Let's move over to.

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00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: The AFC real quick here, because if you asked me

1145
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: before a different situation, right, NFC, we have tight tight

1146
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: battles for the top AFC. My biggest thing if you

1147
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: asked me before the season started, who would be leading

1148
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 2: each each division, this would not be it Patriots over

1149
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: the Bills in the East, Steelers over the Ravens, and

1150
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: Bengals in the North, Jags leading the South, Broncos over

1151
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: the chief in the West.

1152
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: Your one seed is the Denver Broncos. Your two seed

1153
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: is the New Patriots.

1154
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 2: Like I just have to say, like this felt like

1155
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: it was gonna be Josh Allen's year coming off as

1156
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: MVP season. His biggest hurdles have always been the Chiefs

1157
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes and they're not really in the playoff

1158
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: picture right now.

1159
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 4: The Ravens are on the bubble, and then.

1160
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 2: You have the Patriots who are back and they are

1161
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: leading the division and they have a huge matchup again

1162
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Like it's just I feel like all the

1163
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: pressure is on Josh Allen because.

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Speaker 1: It should soon to be Dowd Josh Allen, I.

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00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: Know, congratulations. That was so cute. I love that so much.

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Speaker 1: My super Bowl pick at the beginning of the season

1167
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: was Bills Packers and that's still that's that's still on

1168
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: the table here like if the Bills are going to

1169
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, the Packers are going to make the playoffs. Okay,

1170
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: So I was given the chance on my show on

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00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: I forgot what show it was. Honestly, everything blurs together

1172
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 1: these days, but it was last week. I was given

1173
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,959
Speaker 1: the chance to kind of amend my my my Super

1174
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,479
Speaker 1: Bowl pick, and I said, no, I'm not gonna do it. Oh,

1175
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it because you know what, if

1176
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: it not actually happens, if the Bills take advantage of

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00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: the fact that the Patriots may be back, but they're inexperienced. Yeah,

1178
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: and the fact that the Chiefs are not in it,

1179
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: the Ravens are probably not going to be in anither.

1180
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: If the Bills can actually find a way to get

1181
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: it done this year, like I think, because by next year,

1182
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: the Patriots are gonna have experience. Yes, Broncos are going

1183
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: to have more experience. I mean, the Broncos had experience

1184
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: with last year. But like, this is kind of like

1185
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: the window is open. This is very very open for

1186
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: the Bills, and I don't know how much longer it

1187
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: really is going to be. Now again that the New

1188
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: England Patriots are quote unquote returning to power in.

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Speaker 2: The IFC, Like it's wild, Like what a fun turnaround,

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00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: like picking up like Mike Rabel, who has completely turned

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00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: the team around May in his second year, has been

1192
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: in the MVP conversation. I mean he is just behind

1193
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 2: Stafford for the favorite. He's second, and passing yards second

1194
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: and passer rating fourth, and touchdowns.

1195
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: Are eerily similar to Matthew.

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00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 4: Stear insane though, Like it's what.

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Speaker 1: Identifying Dray like halfway through the season, I remember identifying

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00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: how like Drake May's stats and Matthew Stafford's stats were

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Speaker 1: so eerily similar where I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Drake May is is a hands down MVP candidate, And

1201
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Speaker 1: if Ben Johnson doesn't get Coach of the Year this year,

1202
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's gonna be because Mike Rabel. Yeah,

1203
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: it's what he's in one.

1204
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: Year, completely turning this this team around with the.

1205
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Speaker 1: Young quarterback too, that was drafted in Caleb's class. Yes,

1206
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: Like that's that's the other difference here too, is that like,

1207
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: not only did you turn around the franchise, but you

1208
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: did it with a very young and inexperienced quarterback.

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Speaker 2: M hm, they're getting back to their winning ways. I know,

1210
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: people like love that love to hate, like the Dynasty's

1211
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 2: dial I love I.

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Speaker 1: Love it though he was my favorite quarterback that came

1213
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: out that class. I adore him just in general. I

1214
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: love the way he plays football, and unlike watching Kayleb

1215
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: Williams play football, I trust Drake May when I watch

1216
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: him go down the field very methodically and accurately and whatever. Like,

1217
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: I am not stressed watching Drake May play football in

1218
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: the way that I'm stressed watching Caleb. But it's exhilarating case.

1219
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 4: But it's a good stress you gotta give it that.

1220
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: It's exhilarating to watch. It's more exhilarating to watch Kalla

1221
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: Williams when things go right. But it's just it's just

1222
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: way more stressful.

1223
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Speaker 2: It's wild. I love it as a non fan. It

1224
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: is beautiful to watch. All Right, guys, we're going to

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Speaker 2: take a quick break here when we come back. MLB

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Speaker 2: Winter meetings just ended. Throwing it out there, I think

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers might three peat. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

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Speaker 2: The song always brings me back to the performance. Why

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00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: am I blanking on the name of the movie?

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Speaker 1: Oh meirls?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. I'm like, I just I'm like doing

1241
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: the dance in my head as it's happening.

1242
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: I thought you were doing the macarena in there for

1243
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 4: a second.

1244
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: Well have you not seen the Mean Girls. It's like

1245
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: very it's really funny. It's really it is.

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00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,479
Speaker 1: It's not to this version, but yeah, it's the notes.

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00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well guys.

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Speaker 2: This week MLB wrapped up winter meetings and the Dodgers

1250
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: once again made the biggest splash this week, signing closer

1251
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: Edwin dia Is to a three year, sixty nine million

1252
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: dollar deal, stealing it basically from the Mets. And I

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00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: just once again the Dodgers take care of the one

1254
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: biggest problem that they had at the end of last

1255
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: into the playoffs. Even though they won back to back

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00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 2: World Series championships, they had a bullpen problem. At the

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00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: end of the season. Their bullpen blue twenty seven saves,

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00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: tied for six most in Major League Baseball. But what

1259
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 2: Dave Rogers did during the postseason was top tier managing,

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00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 2: only using starting pitching through the postseason. But why aren't

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00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: other teams pulling out like and copying the Dodgers' playbook

1262
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: Here the back to back champs are just getting better

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00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: every offseason. They go out and they pay for what

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00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: they need. It's they're not doing anything illegal. This is

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00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: a non salary cap league. Every other team can be

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00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: doing this. So if you're a fan, if you're another organization,

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00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: stop getting mad at the Dodgers front office, get mad

1268
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 2: at your own franchises, and get mad at your own

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01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: teams for for not doing something about it. All these

1270
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: owners are billionaires. They can go out and they can

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01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 2: do the same thing, and they're not the Dodgers are.

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Speaker 2: I think we can maybe safely say we're in a

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01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 2: dynasty like three and five years because we got the

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01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty and the back to backs I think help

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01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: propel that they're making dynasty moves. Like take no other

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Speaker 2: teams in Major le pace.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that Cubs fans have. Yeah, everybody

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01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: in this city of Chicago is like the Cubs were quiet,

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01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: Like winter meetings are over at this point, Cubs have

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01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: not done anything. What and you have your players, even yes,

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01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: coming out and saying what are we doing? What are

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01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: you doing? Because like Ian Happ has his own podcast,

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Speaker 1: I think it's called The Compound.

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Speaker 2: And he was just have a voice now.

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Speaker 1: He was he was talking about he was asked about,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Cub's lack of moves, that the fact

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Speaker 1: that they have not done anything, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: a lot of their young talent, their young production are

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Speaker 1: left handers, left handed batters. Yeah, and he's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we have this kind of young core. Why would you

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01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: not sign a righty then to break that up? Because

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Speaker 1: they've faced he was talking about how many pitchers they've faced.

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Speaker 1: It just absolutely crushed left handers, and they're just He's

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Speaker 1: just like, why wouldn't to make that to round out

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01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: your rotation? Why wouldn't you add some more like at

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Speaker 1: the very least in that, and then you talk about

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Speaker 1: their pitching rotation too. I mean, I can tell you

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01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: the Cubs fans are watching very closely what the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: are doing and saying.

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Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, what the hecks?

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01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: He's like, we have like we have we have a

1302
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: premiere destination Chicago, Wrigley Field iconic, Like what are we

1303
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: why are we not doing anything? We have the money,

1304
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: we have, the brand we have, like we should be

1305
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: taken so much more seriously. And when you talk like

1306
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about going into October football and just the

1307
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: drought that really Chicago has had of any meaningful sorry baseball,

1308
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: baseball in October, like they only these teams only have

1309
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: themselves to blame because of the soft cap. It's like, you.

1310
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Speaker 4: Can you can do it, you can do it, you guys.

1311
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: Sure do you have to pay a luxury tax on

1312
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: this that the other? But what the Dodgers have done

1313
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: is proved that if you go out and you spend

1314
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: the money, you will win back.

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Speaker 4: They also made it back.

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01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: You will win the crazy contract they gave Otani, that

1317
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: almost billion dollar contract, they already made back that money

1318
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: in a couple of years.

1319
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 4: Like it, But if you're not.

1320
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: If you're not trying to win, what are you doing?

1321
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: What's the point.

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Speaker 1: If you're not spending money to win, then what are

1323
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: you spending money? Like? Like, it already costs a lot

1324
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: of money to own an to own an MLB franchise

1325
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: and to keep one running and to keep one being

1326
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: a contender. What's what's to these billionaires? What's ten what's

1327
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, ten to fifty more million dollars like it

1328
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: just or even one hundred more million dollars like it's

1329
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: just it's it's so funny to me that you have

1330
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: the blueprint that the Dodgers have put out there and

1331
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: there aren't and then these teams are just and and

1332
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: maybe they're unwilling because they don't want to set that precedent,

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01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: and they're very well aware of that precedent. But I'm like,

1334
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: it is it's like one either you all have to

1335
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: agree to that, like or you or it's every man

1336
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: for it's every team for themselves because the Dodgers clearly

1337
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: broke that and they are setting that precedent. So your

1338
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: team does not have an excuse at this point if

1339
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: they go out and spend the money they can win to.

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01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm calling I'm calling it now, Dodgers three peat next season.

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01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 10: I think the Diaz signing, though, is like real proof

1342
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 10: that it's not just about money. Like everybody wants to say,

1343
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 10: all it's the Dodgers buying players.

1344
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: He said it was it was about winning, And why

1345
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: are the Dodgers winning?

1346
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 10: He said, it's about winning. But he also said that

1347
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 10: his brother told him that the organization did a lot

1348
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 10: to help him, and the Mets fired the pitching coach

1349
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 10: that he liked. So yeah, and the Mets lose Alonso

1350
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,479
Speaker 10: the next day to the Orioles. I thought Steve Cohen

1351
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 10: had all the money in the world. He just wonder

1352
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 10: how how is he getting outbid for guys? If it's

1353
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 10: if it's it can't be all about the money.

1354
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 4: Guys want to be in l A.

1355
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk to any player on that roster, they

1356
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 2: will say this is the best environment they have ever

1357
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 2: been in playing the game of baseball.

1358
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Speaker 1: But don't you think it's because they've been winning. And

1359
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Speaker 1: then if you if you go back to that.

1360
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Speaker 4: Or if they've the culture, the staff, it's everything.

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Speaker 1: The doctors are easy to have when you're winning, though,

1362
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: And I still think it all boils down to the

1363
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: willingness to spend money.

1364
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Speaker 10: They were, Yeah, well that's the thing is that's it's

1365
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 10: the willingness to spend money, right, But last things they

1366
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 10: don't they don't want to. But like the Dodgers were

1367
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 10: one of the first organizations to like actually feed their

1368
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 10: minor leaguers actual food. Everybody else was not doing that.

1369
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Speaker 1: No, it'sout, but like it's still kind of all to me.

1370
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: It all boils down to the willingness. I think that's

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01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: a good distinction though, to make. But it's the willingness

1372
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Speaker 1: to spend money. Yeah, and that's creates a culture, and

1373
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: then that helps you win. And then it's it's like

1374
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: it's a cyclical.

1375
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: Guys want to be there. Guys want to be there.

1376
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: Because they're winners, but they're winners because they're willing to

1377
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: spend money, and and and rinse and repeats. So any

1378
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: this is still a blueprint, and this is still attainable

1379
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: by any other franchise.

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Speaker 2: Copy and paste. I can say. All I can think

1381
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: about right now is how much Edwin Diaz's walkout song

1382
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: is going to slap the trumpets slap at Dodger Stadium.

1383
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 2: You guys, you will feel this in your soul with

1384
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: everyone going ham ah, I love it so much. Okay,

1385
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: Now let's check in with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

1386
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Speaker 2: You got the.

1387
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Speaker 3: Army Navy name Army Navy game being played right now.

1388
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 3: Army with the lead, but Navy has the ball twelve

1389
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 3: minutes left in the fourth quarter, sixteen to ten. The

1390
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: Black Knights lead the Midshipman. Army was six and five

1391
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 3: this year, four and four in conference, Navy nine and two,

1392
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 3: seven and one in conference. In the NFL News, Philip

1393
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 3: Rivers will start Sunday against the Seahawks for the Indianapolis Colts.

1394
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 3: The last start he had was five years ago. He's

1395
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: actually eligible for the Hall of Fame this year, but

1396
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 3: if as soon as he hits the field Sunday, I

1397
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: guess actually, when he got activated to the active rafter

1398
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 3: his now Hall of Fame clock restarts. He won't be

1399
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: eligible again until twenty thirty. The forty nine Ers have

1400
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,919
Speaker 3: plays Brandon Ayuk on the reserve slash left squad list.

1401
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 3: That's going to end the wide receiver season and likely

1402
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 3: his time as a forty nine Er. The Cowboys keep

1403
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs on injury reserve for the game against the Vikings.

1404
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 3: The Packers at Emanuel Wilson to the injury report for

1405
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 3: Tomorrow's game at Denver.

1406
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

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01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs is also on the injury report with a knee. Yeah,

1408
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: with a knee injury, He's questionable for that game. The

1409
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 3: line's downgrade safety Thomas Harper out with a concussion. Christian Mahogany,

1410
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 3: with a leg injury, is not going to play as well.

1411
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 3: Devine Chan is expected to play Monday Night football against

1412
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 3: the Steelers, per his head coach Mike McDaniel. He also

1413
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 3: got fined for a violent gester he and his teammate

1414
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 3: Jalen Wright recently from their last game, and the Bears

1415
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 3: optimistic that Roma Dunze will play on Sunday. He's dealing

1416
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: with a foot injury. They got the Browns coming up.

1417
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Thank you, Martin. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry year with Carmen Vitally.

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01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 2: We're trying to get a guest on that we're very

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01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: excited about if we can, If we can get him,

1421
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 2: come in, Oh carme. I'm excited to hear his whole

1422
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 2: take on the whole college football situation. If okay, it

1423
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: looks like we might have him. Yeah, okay, so it

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01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 2: is time for our next guest. He is another great

1425
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: friend of the show. He is a food, love and

1426
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: football call in great the host of Golic and Colic.

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01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 2: It's Mike Golick Junior.

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Speaker 8: Do we have what's going on?

1429
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1430
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: I am so excited to have you on right now.

1431
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: And we have to talk about your fighting Irish because

1432
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 2: they have been the talk of the town getting quote

1433
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 2: snubbed from the college football playoffs and then declining a

1434
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: bowl game. I just want you to go off king,

1435
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: give us all your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 9: Well all right, obviously, as you guys can imagine being

1437
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 9: a Notre Dame alum as someone that is most people's.

1438
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 8: First text message when Notre Dame happened. But busy week, career.

1439
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 9: Boys front, and what I would say is starting all

1440
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 9: the way like chronologically here. Notre Dame being left out

1441
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 9: of the college football playoffs by most accounts, like not

1442
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 9: even folks like me who skewed blue and Gold because

1443
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 9: of affiliation, seemed like a mistake. Like if you're going

1444
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 9: to have an invitational with the twelve best teams in

1445
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 9: the sport. Most everyone with eyes that walked Notre Dame

1446
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 9: this season understood, hey, this is probably one of those teams.

1447
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 9: Like I think I'm the odds list in Vegas. They

1448
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 9: were like third or fourth in terms of the most

1449
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 9: bet teams to win the national championship. So them being

1450
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 9: sent home early didn't sit right with a lot of people,

1451
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,879
Speaker 9: myself included. The way it happened certainly objectionable. A committee

1452
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 9: who for weeks on end had basically told Notre Dame

1453
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 9: via their rankings, Hey, that game you played against Miami,

1454
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 9: I understand you lost it, but ultimately we still think

1455
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 9: you're the better team until the very last weekend. So

1456
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 9: it can be the right decision in the wrong process,

1457
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 9: and I think we can all kind of hold those

1458
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 9: two ideas at once. I think the college football playoffs

1459
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 9: as a process in terms of the TV shows they

1460
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 9: do on Tuesday night, all that needs a little bit

1461
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 9: of tweaking right now based off what we saw here.

1462
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 9: The thing I was surprised by was how strong everyone's

1463
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 9: reactions were to then the group of eighteen to twenty

1464
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 9: three year olds who have been told by the adults

1465
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 9: for a month and a half, hey, you're a college

1466
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 9: football playoff team and then found out, hey, actually we

1467
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 9: didn't mean that, and you're.

1468
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 8: Not going to the college football playoffs.

1469
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 9: Had an hour to decide after getting the rug completely

1470
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 9: pulled out from under them.

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Speaker 8: Do you want to go eat the anthropomorphic pop tart

1472
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 8: in Orlando?

1473
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1474
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 8: Like you know, that's another part, Like maybe we give

1475
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 8: them a night to sleep on it.

1476
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: Man, that's the right thing to do go forward in this.

1477
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Speaker 9: But I had a hard time getting as worked up

1478
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 9: as many people did about that, because to me, Notre

1479
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 9: name is just another in the symptoms of where bull

1480
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 9: season has gone.

1481
01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, in the.

1482
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 9: Advent of the expan and in playoff, in the way

1483
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 9: that the sport has changed and evolved with opt outs

1484
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 9: and all the different ways that we approach the postseason.

1485
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 9: People are acting like Notre Dame has killed the postseason. Like, guys,

1486
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 9: we're getting ready to watch the last LA Bowl this weekend.

1487
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 9: Notre Dame didn't do that. The recent year's history of

1488
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 9: bull game inventory that exceeds the amount of teams that

1489
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 9: are either able to or willing to play in these things,

1490
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 9: and so I think Notre Dame is just a high

1491
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,879
Speaker 9: profile example. They're a school that will listen to strong response,

1492
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 9: but they're by no means the reason that we're watching

1493
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 9: bull season change the way it has.

1494
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: It's so interesting to me back because I think you're

1495
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 1: right like the process and maybe and maybe you're not

1496
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: the right person asked aout this because Notre Dame is not,

1497
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: in fact in a conference. However, what what do we

1498
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: do with conference championship games? Because if we are going

1499
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: to punish teams for getting to play one extra game,

1500
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: what incentive is there to play that game then in

1501
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: the in the in the chance that they lose. And

1502
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean when we initially talked about this on the

1503
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: show too, I was talking about kind of the Bama

1504
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: conundrum where it was actually our friend Nicole Auerbach that said, like,

1505
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: they're essentially getting credit for beating Georgia earlier in the season,

1506
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: but they're getting credit for it twice because they The

1507
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: reasoning they weren't dropped after the blowout loss to Georgia

1508
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: and the conference championship was because they had already beaten them,

1509
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: but that was already baked into their ranking beforehand. So like,

1510
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: why are they a three loss team that gets into

1511
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs and the mental gymnastics there, but it boils

1512
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: down to, like our conference championship games going to become

1513
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: obsolete here.

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01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 9: Well, I think that was part of what was at

1515
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 9: risk in the Notre Dame Alabama debate.

1516
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,520
Speaker 8: That really became the focus.

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01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 9: For a lot of people after that Georgia Conference championship

1518
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 9: loss that you just talked about, because people looked at that,

1519
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 9: combined with quite honestly, the way Alabama had played on

1520
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 9: field in the last month.

1521
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 8: You know, the gam against.

1522
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 9: Oklahoma, were you listen, they outgained them the most categories,

1523
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 9: but turn the ball over and lose the game against

1524
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 9: Auburn being the reasoning the committee put them up. There

1525
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 9: was athenine in the face of logic and what everyone

1526
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 9: else knew. So I think ultimately the decision, though, to

1527
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 9: your point, came down to two things. To me, the

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01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 9: Notre Dame Miami debate was about the committee being able

1529
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 9: to credibly look at everyone and say that head to

1530
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 9: head games matter, because you've already got teams rattling the

1531
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 9: saber on the table saying if we're not going to

1532
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 9: get credit for these wire, are we going to schedule

1533
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 9: tough in our non content Most teams are getting ready

1534
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 9: to play in nine conference games, So why would we

1535
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 9: challenge ourselves there? And the other part is exactly what

1536
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 9: you said, what is the viability of the conference championship

1537
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 9: game if all of a sudden Alabama's bumped out? Because

1538
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 9: remember everyone pointed out all these conference champions that have

1539
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 9: been bumped out. You throw out the sample size from

1540
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,759
Speaker 9: the four team playoff because to me, that's not applicable

1541
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 9: that the apples and oranges going back to the last

1542
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 9: year the four team playoff, like, yes, Georgia lost in

1543
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 9: the SEC championship game and was knocked out. The other

1544
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 9: four teams in the four teams in the college football

1545
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 9: playoffs were four Power five conference champions. Fact, we had

1546
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 9: the PAC twelve, So I kind of exclude that. You

1547
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 9: look at this now and the committee had to decide

1548
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 9: are we going to bump Alabama out? BYU was already

1549
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 9: out of the tournament field like they were at eleven,

1550
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 9: knowing the bottom two in eleven and twelve spots, we're

1551
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 9: gonna get bumped for the ACC champ or the two

1552
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 9: group of five champs that we've seen here. So they

1553
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 9: weren't at risk of losing their spot based on the performance.

1554
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 8: In the championship game. They could only gain if they won.

1555
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 9: Alabama was at risk of legitimately being punished, and I

1556
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:25,759
Speaker 9: think the committee subconsciously or overtly said, we're not ready

1557
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 9: to be the force that fractures conference championship games into

1558
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 9: being what they could have actually become, which is playing

1559
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 9: games for teams in certain conferences that aren't guaranteed a

1560
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 9: playoff spot.

1561
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 8: Hey, if we're the SEC, we.

1562
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 9: Won't have our one versus two play in the conference

1563
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 9: championship well like six or seven plays so that they

1564
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 9: can get a ranked win at the end of the

1565
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 9: season and try and help them as the tournament field

1566
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 9: expands if we over index on at large as in

1567
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 9: those things. So I think this decision, at least in part,

1568
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 9: was about protecting the sanctity of conference championship games.

1569
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 8: However much longer that's going to exist.

1570
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,799
Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, looking at the final twelve team college football

1571
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: playoff bracket, which team do you think is going to

1572
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: win the NATTI.

1573
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 8: Who it's If I had to, if I had to

1574
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 8: bank on it.

1575
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would probably say over the course of a

1576
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 9: long tournament field, especially accounting for a defensive line injury

1577
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 9: that Indiana just suffered, I probably still bet on Ohio State.

1578
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 9: Indiana beat him in the Big Penn Champion and they

1579
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 9: absolutely deserve the credit for that. But Ohio State has

1580
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 9: a team right now on both sides of the ball

1581
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 9: that is just as talented, if not quite honestly more

1582
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 9: talented person per person than this Indiana team that's reinforced

1583
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 9: itself along the trenches and all that stuff. I think

1584
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 9: an injury to one of your important players going into

1585
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 9: the postseason for Indiana certainly hurts, and I think for

1586
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 9: Ohio State, this is a team that we saw last

1587
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 9: year weaponized the Michigan loss at the end of the

1588
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 9: season and turn that into the right motivation for the postseason.

1589
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 9: I think this year, in certain ways, you've got a

1590
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 9: better Ohio State team. And I think you've got to

1591
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 9: team that once again got their nose bloodied a little

1592
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 9: bit before the tournament and is going to walk in

1593
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 9: with that. I mean, you saw Jeremiah Smith felt some

1594
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 9: type of way about not bringing the Bullittannikov for the

1595
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 9: best wide receiver in college football, and so I think

1596
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 9: you've got a motivated, incredibly talented team who also knows

1597
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 9: the road to go. Like I'll be curious to see

1598
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 9: how much the institutional knowledge from last year for Ohio

1599
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 9: State helps them out. Now they didn't have to buy

1600
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 9: last season, but Indiana got knocked out in the first round.

1601
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 9: Ohio State and their players, their coaches know what it takes.

1602
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 8: How you need to.

1603
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 9: Structure practice, take care of your body, do all those

1604
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 9: little things in the run up to a championship. That now,

1605
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 9: for the teams that are playing on the first weekend

1606
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 9: requires you to win four games, and so I would

1607
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 9: probably still say TI go's to the run of them.

1608
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 9: But it's a one A one B sort of coin

1609
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 9: flip with them in Indiana for the favorite at this point.

1610
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: Real quick, how are the gun tries?

1611
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 4: Oh?

1612
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, they were so good, they were so salty and wonderful, tame.

1613
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: I want them so, I want them to McDonald's. It's

1614
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: that's a I have to have to go. I want

1615
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: it so ten out of ten.

1616
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 8: I went nine point seven out of ten.

1617
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: That is high.

1618
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's.

1619
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: Ten. You're very you're very stingy with your tones.

1620
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 8: I am listen.

1621
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 9: I have to reserve that for something that's truly life changing.

1622
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 9: That being said, the rule for me is always, is

1623
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 9: this food worth deviating from what you normally do? McDonald's

1624
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 9: fries and their own are great. Not having to add

1625
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 9: extra work to your plate is awesome. These are worth

1626
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 9: the extra working bag to shake the seasoning in you

1627
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 9: feel like you're It's like, I mean, you guys, if

1628
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 9: you guys are way fancy and you guys have been

1629
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 9: to Nobu like a nob when they trick you into

1630
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 9: cooking the meat on.

1631
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 8: The hot rock.

1632
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, one experience, but really you're just cooking your own

1633
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 9: food in the place and charge you an arm.

1634
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 8: And a leg. This is the everyman version of that.

1635
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 2: I love that. Mike, thank you so much for coming

1636
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 2: on again. Sorry about your uh, your fighting irish, but

1637
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: we appreciate all of your inside. That was beautiful.

1638
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 9: Thanks guys, appreciate it by Mike.

1639
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take one more break here, but

1640
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 2: when we come back, we are making our NFL picks.

1641
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1642
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: There it is.

1643
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 2: We had to get this one in the show. Welcome

1644
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with

1645
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 2: Carmen Vitally. It's the first year I was excited to

1646
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: hear this song and not like kind of like dreading it.

1647
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: CARMEI are you one of the people that like is no,

1648
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: you're over it. That was a funny reaction.

1649
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm over it.

1650
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 4: I just like it's on your pilot, on your playlist.

1651
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: Of course it's on my playlist, okay, but also like,

1652
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: so are two hundred and fifty other songs?

1653
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 2: Will you please said that to me? I will, I'm gonna,

1654
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 2: I'll post it, okay.

1655
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 1: I honestly I grew up too on you know, like

1656
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: Frank Snatra d Yeah, yeah, all of that kind of

1657
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: like that like screams Christmas to me.

1658
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 2: And oh I do Christmas jazz. That's what's playing in

1659
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: my house. It's jazzy Christmas.

1660
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 4: You know what I haven't worked into the show. What

1661
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 4: my dad had all of the Jimmy Buffett Christmas albums. Oh,

1662
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 4: that's what always are laws.

1663
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: My laws are parentheads in a bottle of rum. That

1664
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: The single album though, that I remember most from being

1665
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: a kid, The Special Olympics did these. I think there

1666
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: was like three of them, and it was like compilation

1667
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 1: albums from so many different artists like Madonna, Bruce Springsteen, Sting,

1668
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,600
Speaker 1: the Pointer Sisters like and so their first one it

1669
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: had a red cover, I remember, and all the proceeds

1670
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: benefited the Special Olympics. It was called A Very Special

1671
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: Christmas and I know that album like front to back

1672
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:40,560
Speaker 1: and now those are the song like outside of like

1673
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: the Frank Sinatra and kind of like the old school stuff.

1674
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 1: It was that specific album and I just I have

1675
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: to listen to it every year because it's just it's

1676
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: not Christmas without it.

1677
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 10: I love that.

1678
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 2: I love that so much. Okay, we're gonna just like

1679
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 2: kind of race through our NFL picks right now. I

1680
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: got to say this year has been absolutely wild, Carmen.

1681
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: Have you guys been doing this every week?

1682
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 1: And how I switched it out for an LOL moment

1683
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: of the week because I just thought that we needed

1684
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: more laughs in our lives.

1685
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well then Begs and here we go.

1686
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 4: First picks, pretty too.

1687
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 2: Lead us through here.

1688
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 10: The Lions take on the Rams out here in La.

1689
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 10: The Rams a five and a half point favorite.

1690
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've talked about this a lot today.

1691
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 2: Rams have won five of six home games. Only loss

1692
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 2: was the ot loss of the forty nine ers. They've

1693
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 2: average the win by thirteen points. We know all the

1694
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: injuries the Lions are having. I am taking the Rams.

1695
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense and I have no actual

1696
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 1: justification for it, but I'm picking the lines. Yeah, of

1697
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: course you are, like they just they have they have

1698
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: They're weird, they be weird. They can play spoiler that

1699
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

1700
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 10: All right. Next up the Browns in Chicago to take

1701
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 10: on the Bears. The Bears a seven and a half

1702
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 10: point favorite.

1703
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: I do think that the Bears could lose this game.

1704
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: I do not think they're going to. So I am

1705
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,759
Speaker 1: going with the Chicago Bears and their run game, especially

1706
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 1: in the elements, even if Caleb Williams doesn't want to

1707
01:19:58,640 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: talk about it.

1708
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm taking I'm also taking the Bears.

1709
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 10: Next up, uh, the Packers minus two and a half

1710
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,440
Speaker 10: on the road in Denver to take on the Broncos.

1711
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, this one's also weird. I'm I'm going

1712
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 2: to take the Broncos though, because they've won ten straight,

1713
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 2: they're on a hot streak, they're at home.

1714
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, this matters for the Packers when you're

1715
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: talking about seating, and I honestly I think for the Broncos,

1716
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: especially because it's not the Broncos, I'm very excited to

1717
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: see pats ertan on Kristen Watson.

1718
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 2: Okay, that's gonna be the Keys.

1719
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 10: Real quick bills with the Patriots bills minus one and

1720
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 10: a half.

1721
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm taking bills. Bills chargers in chargers, chiefs five and

1722
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 2: a half. I'm gonna take chargers, all right. Thank you

1723
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 2: so much for spending your Saturday afternoon with us. We'll

1724
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 2: see you next week, same time, same place,