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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's Rut, Fresh Radio, bringing you

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Speaker 1: the latest reports from the Whitetail Woods, presented by First Light,

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Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.

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Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Casey Smith and Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Refresh Radio.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Casey Smith. Boys and girls, it is here.

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Speaker 3: It is happening.

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Speaker 4: Today is the day.

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Speaker 5: We've heard debates, We've heard all kinds of stuff leading

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Speaker 5: up to this misinformation.

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Speaker 4: But guess what.

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Speaker 2: It's here, the rut.

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Speaker 6: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Refresh Radio, Rocky by First Light.

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Speaker 7: Here.

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Speaker 4: I'm your host, Casey Smith.

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Speaker 5: Tyler Jones, the Hunting Master himself is here with me

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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 4: Guys, the Hunting Master, that's you. Thhm t J.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if there's any way to hide it

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Speaker 5: at this point, Collar, I've been wanting to get this.

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Speaker 4: Out for a while. I'm so excited that you can't

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Speaker 4: hide it.

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Speaker 1: The is here.

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Speaker 4: It's actually here.

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Speaker 2: It's that's right, unless you're a big old bucket.

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Speaker 8: The yell.

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Speaker 4: The boys are.

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Speaker 2: Running around on the cranes plans.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, I think we should just hope you up because.

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Speaker 4: That's what you need right now.

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Speaker 5: This is going to come out the day after election day,

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Speaker 5: and no matter what the result is, you need to

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Speaker 5: be hunting.

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Speaker 4: That's all I need to say on that. I thought

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Speaker 4: you were going a different direction with that. What'd you

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Speaker 4: think I was going? No matter what the result, Jesus

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Speaker 4: is king.

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Speaker 2: That's true. Brother, that is true.

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Speaker 5: And within the scope of that, you should hunt and

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Speaker 5: go out and enjoy the creation.

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Speaker 8: You go, you go.

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Speaker 5: So November sixth, remember seventh, Remember eight, we're not remember ten?

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Speaker 5: Number eleventh, November twelfth, I think is what this rough

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Speaker 5: fresh covers and those are all I mean, I mean

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Speaker 5: better from Michigan like Mark.

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Speaker 4: It might be over by the eighth, you know, sure.

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Speaker 5: But I want you all to know that the Element

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Speaker 5: boys are going to give you a special ret fresh.

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Speaker 2: Update right now.

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Speaker 5: Let's go, dude, between our crew, we've killed five deer

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Speaker 5: in the last week, five.

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Speaker 4: Bucks in the last six days. Six days.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and every single one of them.

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Speaker 2: Get this.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've realized this yet or not.

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Speaker 5: Taller was called INT's called him with the rattling antlers,

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Speaker 5: in particular.

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Speaker 4: Getting we're giving them all the great information. I mean,

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Speaker 4: people gonna be rattling all over the country. It's the thing, man,

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Speaker 4: It's uh. I don't think we discovered this week.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if. Yeah, I mean Texas did for sure,

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Speaker 5: so we could say.

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Speaker 4: Week Texas is the birthplace of like managing deer guarantee

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Speaker 4: you that's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Quality deer management started in Texas, but either way, it moved.

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Speaker 4: And no longer exists.

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Speaker 4: That just tells you a lot.

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Speaker 2: That's that's right, man.

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Speaker 5: I think that there's a deeper science to rattling that

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Speaker 5: I'm interested in learning about throughout my life. But I

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Speaker 5: will say that from October thirty till about right now,

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Speaker 5: it would seem it works really really really well, and

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Speaker 5: I think that in that seeking phase, which seems like

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Speaker 2: For the moose buck that I killed in Kansas last year, we.

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Speaker 5: Had didn't have him on camera all summer long, all fall,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't die from that though.

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Speaker 4: I should go ahead and tell you.

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Speaker 5: We'll put a link to this below, but my hunt

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Speaker 5: for that dear is on the Element channel, and it

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Speaker 5: is it's like one of my most favorite thing we've

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Speaker 4: It's awesome.

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Speaker 5: It's just a blessing to be a part of, you know,

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Speaker 5: much less be the one that gets to shoot in

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Speaker 4: Think, man, you and Brandon never gonna do anything better.

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Speaker 4: That's right, Casey, he's got a buddy. It shot a

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Speaker 4: really big deal this year, and they were talking about

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Speaker 4: it and like, yep, I guess that's the biggest one

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Speaker 2: What's great is you and I haven't peaked yet.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, you know, I'm waiting on it. It's coming. Wait, no,

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Speaker 5: So I guess this has just been a big hot

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe we were talking about this last week.

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Speaker 5: I can't remember, but if it's game day and you're

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Speaker 5: you're a football player and you get too hope around noon,

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Speaker 4: And we've been telling y'all, so hopefully you listen. Yes,

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Speaker 4: Don't worry. It's not the rud if you need to

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Speaker 5: These are the PTO dates, these are the vacation dates,

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Speaker 4: It's time to go, Tyler.

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Speaker 2: This is unprecedented, but I'm going to have.

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Speaker 5: You give a overall score one to ten buck movement

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, that's tough because we've been talking to of course,

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Speaker 4: and apparently it's still warm. Even though we hadn't been

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Speaker 4: We had a really hot October overall, and I would

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Speaker 2: I do find it interesting.

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Speaker 5: That the north of I forty, stuff, we had a

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Speaker 4: It's rock and rolling right now. I mean this morning

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Speaker 5: My final reminder here guys is if you don't get

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Speaker 5: But it's fun to be in the woods right now

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Speaker 5: because things are really exciting. But even in the most

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Speaker 2: A while, you know.

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Speaker 5: But it's it's peeking out here real soon. So get

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Speaker 5: excited getting the woods when you can. Tyler, who are

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be talking to our buddy Scott Harness. He's

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Speaker 4: from Arkansas, one of my favorite people in the world.

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Speaker 4: We also have Zach Lewis and Texas, our buddy Jared

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Speaker 5: Awesome, let's get those guys on the phone. I've got

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Speaker 5: my buddy Scott Harness. He is an Arkansas hunter and pastor. Extraordinary.

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Speaker 8: What's going on, brother, it's all you guys, man, all

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Speaker 8: you guys living the dream.

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Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. Well, I.

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Speaker 5: Know you've been after the deer and you've been after souls,

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Speaker 5: and you probably got a good report for both.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the deer right quick. What are the

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Well you know, we had a crazy warm end of October.

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Speaker 5: I've had some.

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Speaker 8: Buddies have some really good encounters. In fact, a couple

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Speaker 8: I think it's as things starting to free up. If

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Speaker 8: really had a good, good front come through, and it's

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Speaker 9: Really.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, it kind of feels like it's just

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Speaker 2: You know that it usually seems to get them engaged.

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Speaker 3: Now, they're definitely on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 8: I've hund a few places that up in the mountain

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Speaker 4: Hey, Scott, it's Tyler. Hey Budd Heyman been missing you?

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Speaker 4: Uh no for sure?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 4: Uh So when when does the acrons just stop mattering?

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Speaker 4: At what point is it just full on rut?

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Speaker 8: Well it, you know, for us here usually about the

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Speaker 3: So it really depends on where you're hunting. Where we hunt.

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Speaker 8: One area that we hunt in early November is really

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Speaker 8: mid to late November before they're really you know, really

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Speaker 4: So, so I mean, why do you think that is?

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Speaker 4: it could be correlated with weather. But thirty miles the

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Speaker 8: No, it's not what I from what I've heard, and

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Speaker 8: for instance, in Arkansas, the winters are not extreme enough

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Speaker 8: And so most people agree that where I'm talking about,

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Speaker 3: The state has a much later rut can islander or rut.

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Speaker 8: Time, And I think that's really because that area floods

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Speaker 8: I think that's what's affecting that that rut schedule for them,

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Speaker 8: because it's really about about faun viability, you know. And

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Speaker 8: God the way he organizes that, He puts the funds

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Speaker 8: best chance to survive, and that's how it works.

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Speaker 4: That makes sense.

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Speaker 5: It's right, Man, be fruitful, multiply, and he made them

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Speaker 5: to where they could, which is pretty cool. So if

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Speaker 5: we're looking at really, you know, some of the dates

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Speaker 5: moving on a scale of one to ten in the

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Speaker 5: daylight for the next week, what would you say it's

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Speaker 8: Again, depending on where you hunt, I would say from

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Speaker 8: And I could really say that without a doubt if we.

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Speaker 4: Had a front coming through.

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Speaker 8: Now we do have some weather coming through and water's

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Speaker 8: that when the water comes up, it shrinks up the

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Speaker 8: area that the deer can be in, and it helps

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Speaker 8: you a lot in your hunt. It's difference between daylight

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Speaker 8: be in is going to be much smaller, and it

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Speaker 8: makes them a little bit easier to hunt. That's fixing

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Speaker 8: to happen. In fact, the river's coming up fourteen feet

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Speaker 8: in the next three days.

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Speaker 4: So are you trying to make us come see you

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Speaker 4: or what this and I'm telling.

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Speaker 3: You where, I'm telling you right now.

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Speaker 8: The difference between right this minute and three days from now,

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Speaker 8: not just because of the rut calendar, but because of

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Speaker 3: It's dramatically different.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: That's some solid info.

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Speaker 5: And although it wasn't a solid ten, maybe the first

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Speaker 5: ten that I can recall for Fresh Radio. I appreciate

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Speaker 5: the optimism, brother, Thank you for the report.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, man, Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I'm on the phone with Zach Lewis.

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Speaker 5: He's a high school friend of mine and he's been

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Speaker 5: doing some hunting in Texas.

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Speaker 2: Zach, what's going on, man?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 11: No much, just take care of kids and getting out

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Speaker 11: and hunting when I can.

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Speaker 4: Hey, that's the life, dude.

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Speaker 5: We were chatting on that before, and I don't know

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Speaker 5: if there's something that brings you much more joy than

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Speaker 5: than to have kids and then get to introduce some

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Speaker 4: That's very cool.

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Speaker 5: You've been doing some hunting down there in Texas. Of

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Speaker 5: course that's home for me, and we're actually pretty far

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Speaker 5: big state. But a lot of things are going on

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Speaker 5: in the white tail world. You were out there this

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Speaker 11: I think the bucks are really starting to break up

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Speaker 11: to look for dose. I don't think the dose are

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Speaker 3: They're starting to move around more.

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Speaker 11: We notice, you know, seeing different bucks in different areas

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Speaker 11: the dose are definitely not receptive to the bucks just yet.

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Speaker 11: But the dough the bucks are really really starting to

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Speaker 11: really starting to search around and where those doughs are located.

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Speaker 4: At for sure.

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Speaker 2: Are you seeing like mature bucks on their feet in

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Speaker 11: We're still getting a lot of nine time activity on

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Speaker 11: the later mornings. You know, they'll get more activity through

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Speaker 3: Later in the late morning.

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Speaker 11: Activity where they're looking for dozs in the late morning

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Speaker 5: Got you do you think that's because they wait on

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Speaker 4: Why do you think you're seeing that?

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Speaker 11: I just think they're breaking out of their summer feeding patterns.

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Speaker 11: And you know, the does are still kind of we

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Speaker 11: but the bucks are definitely looking around to find out

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Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, gotcha, what.

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Speaker 4: Are they laying down a bunch of sign right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 11: We have seen a lot of scrapes, and we've seen

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Speaker 11: some bucks make some rubs.

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Speaker 6: It's up, but we saw I found a whole line of.

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Speaker 11: Scrapes a line of tree lined yesterday. But I think

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Speaker 4: Gotcha.

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Speaker 5: So Texas recently just opened up his rifles season, and

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Speaker 5: that always seems to kind of mix things up. Do

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Speaker 5: you're going to just do what they do?

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think it hurts really do either.

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Speaker 11: You know, I think those bucks are still kind of

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Speaker 11: are the core range, but they're starting to range out definitely.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, if it wouldn't hurt.

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Speaker 11: You know, generally in the early season, the deer are

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Speaker 3: Ten o'clock, eleven o'clock or so.

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Speaker 11: But it wasn't hurt, especially in this later season in November,

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Speaker 11: wait till eleven, twelve o'clock. Even even if you're able

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Speaker 11: to sit out all day, you never know it's gonna

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Texas is the home of rattling. Are you big

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Speaker 5: on calling down there? I am.

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Speaker 11: I do, especially on the property that we have.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot of canyons, a lot of ravines

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Speaker 6: So I do like to take the.

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Speaker 11: High ground and try and rattle bucks out of those

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Speaker 3: And they'll start coming up and looking around for doze

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Speaker 3: and who's making all that racket?

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Speaker 4: What time of day do you do that?

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Speaker 11: I like to do it late morning, you know, eleven o'clock,

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Speaker 2: You know, M gotcha. So are you still hunting?

447
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 5: Kind of relative to like feed or are you kind

448
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 5: of focusing on betting areas?

449
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 2: So right now, right.

450
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 11: Now where we're still kind of hunting close to their

451
00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 11: feeding areas a little bit more because those doughs are

452
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 11: hitting those feeding areas hard and they're still they're coming

453
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 11: and checking those doughs hard instead of more ranging out. So, uh,

454
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 11: probably in the late mornings I will hunt around the

455
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,479
Speaker 11: feeding areas in the in the evenings, will hunt more

456
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 11: closer to bedding areas.

457
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 5: Gotcha, Yeah, that makes sense. Are you Are you excited

458
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,120
Speaker 5: about the tempts that we have coming up? I feel

459
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 5: like we just still don't have quite the weather that

460
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 5: I like for you know, November in Texas, right, Yeah,

461
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 5: we did.

462
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 11: Notice that, you know, we I was, uh, you know,

463
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 11: I was hunting this weekend and on a property and

464
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,239
Speaker 11: we had a lot of deer activity. But today in

465
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 11: that in that area, I've been watching the game cans

466
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 11: and and the there there's a cold front hitting up

467
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 11: there up at North Texas. It's dropped another fifteen degrees

468
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 11: and those it's definitely got the deer moving for sure.

469
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 11: That there's been I've been getting deer pictures through the

470
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 11: whole day, even every single hour I have deer on camera.

471
00:20:54,680 --> 00:21:00,120
Speaker 5: Nothing like checking that appen and seeing that there's yep, yeah,

472
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 5: that's fun man. So okay, we got some really good

473
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 5: dates coming up. You know, November is exciting season for

474
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 5: whitetail hunters and of course for the bucks as well

475
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 5: because they get to chase the dose around. But you know,

476
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 5: a little bit of weather. We do have some cold

477
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 5: fronts that are pushing through. Like you're saying though, So

478
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 5: if you had to rate buck movement on a scale

479
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 5: of one to ten for the next week for deer

480
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 5: hunters in Texas, what would you call it?

481
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 11: I would give it, you know, seven eight. You know,

482
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 11: as long as you get get ahead of that front.

483
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 11: You know, there's there's big storms coming in and in

484
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 11: our area, the deer don't like to move in those

485
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 11: big storms. You know, we hunted this weekend and it

486
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 11: rained all day Saturday. We just see a whole lot

487
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 11: of movement at all, like hardly at all. Those deers

488
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 11: like to bet up and those raines and everything, and

489
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,719
Speaker 11: you know, we're getting out of the weather. But Sunday

490
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 11: was clear, and then we saw deer moving all day

491
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 11: Sunday and I ended up taking a big mule deer yesterday.

492
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 11: So yeah, so the deer are really moving after that

493
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 11: that weather moved.

494
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 6: Through and coming into that cold front.

495
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 5: Optimistic numbers, man, I like it. It's a good time

496
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 5: to be in the woods. Congrats on the big deer, dude,

497
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 5: and I thank you for the report.

498
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 3: No problem, man, I appreciate it.

499
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 5: On the phone, I've got Jared Larson with on X

500
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 5: and he is out in Wisconsin hunting watt tails right now.

501
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 5: Sounds like he just pulled to set out of the

502
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 5: tree because he is trying to chase him down.

503
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 3: Dude, what's happening case, brother, It's good to hear from you.

504
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 10: We're dealing with a lot of wets conditions over here,

505
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 10: and yeah, hanging hunts are kind of the name of

506
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 10: the game where I'm at right now, just hunting a

507
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 10: permission property that you know, there's there's no set stands

508
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 10: on it. And I come from Montana for seven day

509
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 10: hunts every year, and so that's.

510
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 3: What me and my four buddies got.

511
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 10: It's about four d and forty acres on the western

512
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 10: side of Wisconsin here and it's uh, yeah, it's been

513
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 10: it's been tough the.

514
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 5: Last couple of days. Well, I'm sorry, it's been tough.

515
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 5: Do you feel like that is weather related? Is that

516
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 5: just the dates that you have or what's the deal

517
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 5: with that.

518
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, so I got here on Halloween, and then Halloween

519
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 10: the thirty first of October there and November first, where

520
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 10: we're off the chains here. I mean I saw a

521
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 10: bunch of bucks, mature bucks, on their feet seeking.

522
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 3: You know, I never really saw one.

523
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 10: Acting like they found a hot dough. It was more

524
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 10: just that uh, you know, tail bumping game. And then

525
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 10: you know, we had that wind switch from from predominantly

526
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 10: west winds to southeast winds where I'm at, uh starting

527
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 10: on uh, I think it was like late Saturday night,

528
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 10: early ear late Friday night rather early Saturday morning. And

529
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 10: then with that, you know, we got a fair amount

530
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 10: of low pressure on Saturday, Sunday and into Monday here,

531
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 10: and those southeast winds persisted up until about an hour ago,

532
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 10: and we just had really damp, wet, froggy air. And

533
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 10: like one of the guys this morning had a great sit.

534
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 10: You know, he had a hot dough nearby, multiple bucks

535
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 10: running around.

536
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got a bucking boat range.

537
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 10: It sounds like for the last three hours, so I

538
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,479
Speaker 10: think right now where I'm at in particular, you know,

539
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 10: it's it's the old classic kind of first part of

540
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 10: the rut there where you're either really in them or

541
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 10: you're really not in them. But I really do think

542
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 10: the wind shifted at about nine this morning from that

543
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 10: southeast to a straight west, and immediately the sky started clearing,

544
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 10: you know.

545
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 3: The real foggy low clouds.

546
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 10: Lifted, and so I think tonight will be a much

547
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 10: more productive sit and then tomorrow we got more rain,

548
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 10: but northwest winds. I mean, something my dad always said

549
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 10: is wins from the least, or winds from the east,

550
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 10: deer move the least. Whether that's just what I was

551
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 10: growing up under the notion of or it actually maybe

552
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 10: has a little bit of truth to it. I certainly

553
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 10: am super pumped to get rid of this southeast wind,

554
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 10: have some northwest predominance here over the next three four days,

555
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 10: and uh, really on the outlook side of things, you know,

556
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 10: like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, higher pressure, clearing, skies, lows in

557
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 10: the thirties, highs in the fifties. I'm I'm fired up

558
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 10: to get through these last couple of days of wet here.

559
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: Uh and see if bucks really start running.

560
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 4: So is it supposed to Is it supposed to cool

561
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 4: off when that all that froggy ear gets out of there.

562
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 9: Yeah.

563
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 10: So this morning when we left the you know shed

564
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 10: that we stay in, it was I think it was

565
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 10: sixty three degrees or something like that.

566
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: I mean it was really hot.

567
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 10: And muggy going in, and I mean as soon as

568
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 10: that west wind switched you could feel that, you know,

569
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 10: humidity kind of get pushed out of the air. So

570
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 10: temps are supposed to start dropping. Tonight Tomorrow is going

571
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 10: to be nothing short of a really cold, soggy sit.

572
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 10: I think the highs like forty seven and it's supposed

573
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 10: to rain all day. But regardless, I think that that

574
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 10: Wednesday timeframe, once that higher pressure and uh and this

575
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 10: weather system moves out.

576
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: Of here, I'm I'm super plumped to be in a tree.

577
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 10: Not that I'm not tonight or tomorrow, because once you're

578
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 10: in the first week in November, as you guys know,

579
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 10: anything can happen.

580
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 3: And the only way it can't happen is if you're not.

581
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 5: Out there exactly right, Dude, you got a hunt, so

582
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 5: you pull you just pulled a sit. Tell me real quick,

583
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 5: are you going off of historical data for where you're

584
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 5: moving to. Are you making observations and making moves on them,

585
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 5: or are you just going and finding the best pitch

586
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 5: point you can hang it new set in.

587
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 10: Yeah. No, Hilariously, this morning and there's a buck I've

588
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 10: been hunting on this farm.

589
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 3: We've known about him for four years.

590
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 10: I've been hunting pretty much him exclusively for three and

591
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 10: November fourth we just have like there are daylight photos

592
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 10: of this year on very few occasions throughout the year,

593
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 10: but November fourth, the last three years, I have a

594
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 10: daylight picture of them of him. So that's uh, that's

595
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 10: why I was sitting where.

596
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: I sat this morning.

597
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 10: He didn't he didn't make it another year in a row,

598
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 10: unfortunately for me. But kind of our program where we're hunting,

599
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 10: there's not a lot of food on our property. It's

600
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 10: basically a big major creek drain system with a few

601
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 10: hardwood ridges, but all of the tops are owned by

602
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 10: adjacent nighbors.

603
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: That have all the the egg.

604
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 10: There's a couple of small borassica plots on the ground

605
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 10: that that we're able to hunt, but our go to

606
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 10: is pretty much the mornings we get up high and uh,

607
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 10: and hunt the ridges, just trying to key in on

608
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 10: that dough betting on the on the tips of these

609
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 10: big predominantly oaken walnut a little bit of hickory mixed

610
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 10: in just hunting, you know, the down wind side of

611
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 10: dough betting. And then the evenings we just try to

612
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 10: be prescriptive in the evenings and uh and again, really

613
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 10: there's not a lot of food to hunt, so we're

614
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 10: trying to just hunt some funneling pinch points where we

615
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 10: might catch some bucks cruising, you know, from one ridge

616
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 10: to the next in the evening, and and really just

617
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 10: try to keep our presence a little less felt in

618
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 10: the evenings. So I'm not entirely sure where I'll end

619
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 10: up tonight, but it'll probably be probably be more of

620
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 10: an observation sit than anything, just to try to get

621
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 10: a better.

622
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: Feel for what might be the play here in the

623
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: coming days.

624
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 4: Awesome, dude. So you know that's the thing about hanging hunt, man,

625
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 4: is like, you know, it's a struggling to all a sudden,

626
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 4: it's kind of not and there's a reward that's pretty awesome.

627
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 4: But you know, with that being said, man, in this

628
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 4: this kind of style that you're undertaking here of hanging

629
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: hunt in the next week. If you had to guess

630
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 4: based off weather, moon, rut, whatever it might be, or

631
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 4: even food, what is buck movement going to be like

632
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: on a scale of one to ten.

633
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 10: Now, I'm somehow I am an eternal optimist when.

634
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 9: It comes to let's going I think you have to

635
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 9: be to some extent. So I'm going to say, you know,

636
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 9: the next few days here, I'll say, starting on Wednesday,

637
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 9: I'm gonna give it like a nine point seven. Like

638
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 9: I really think after this low pressure, really wet, just

639
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 9: drear system moves out of here and we get some

640
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 9: sunshine and some some northerly winds, it's gonna break loose.

641
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 10: Call it on the sixth, seventh eighth. You heard it

642
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 10: here that if you're not well, you didn't hear it here.

643
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 10: You've heard it in every.

644
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: Run publication of all time.

645
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 10: Throughout history that November six seven eight, you better get

646
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 10: to a tree.

647
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: Some things are cliches for reason. Man, It's because that's

648
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 5: the time they go down.

649
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: That's right, boys.

650
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 10: But yeah, I would say, you know, park it, park

651
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 10: it all day if you can, if you can muster it. Otherwise,

652
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 10: go find yourself some dough betting by morning. If you

653
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 10: have a good food source to hunt by the evening,

654
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 10: that's kinda kind of would.

655
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 6: Be my play.

656
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 10: And at the end of the day, if you're set,

657
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 10: doesn't have perfect conditions over these next few days. If

658
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 10: you're if you're a bow hunter, sometimes you just gotta

659
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 10: go try to make it happen and uh and push.

660
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: The envelope a little bit.

661
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, guarantee, dude, Hey, appreciate the report. Go get them killed, dude, case.

662
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: Tyle as always fell as.

663
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 10: It's a pleasure of good luck out there, and shoot straight.

664
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: Everybody on the phone.

665
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: I've got Phil Tuttle. He's in Illinois. Phil.

666
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: What's going on, man?

667
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 7: Not much, just actually driving out to a hunting spot locally,

668
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 7: kind of waiting for the rain to pass here.

669
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: Oh gotcha, man, You're going in at a good time, man,

670
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: aren't you.

671
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 6: I hope. So we'll see.

672
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 5: Okay, So I got a question related to that. But first,

673
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 5: in general, what are the bucks you're you're seeing?

674
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: What are they doing right now?

675
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of cruising bucks by themselves

676
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 7: of all different ages. You know, one and a half

677
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 7: year old's up to mature. Dear, cruising by themselves. I'm

678
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 7: also seeing them tailing, you know, single dose and dough

679
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 7: family groups. I've seen a couple like all out chases

680
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 7: for sure, but I don't think we're quite at the

681
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 7: all out chase pace quite yet.

682
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 6: But a lot of cruising and a lot.

683
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: Of tailing that makes sense.

684
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 5: Yes, So I think your situation this afternoon is something

685
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 5: that a lot of hunters across the middle part of

686
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 5: the country are going to face and today or tomorrow

687
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 5: the next day, where we have this weather system that

688
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 5: moves through and then there's a break in it right afterwards.

689
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 4: What's your strategy for falling up that rain?

690
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, if the workfront and the family front

691
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 7: can handle it and I'm able to hunt, man, I'm

692
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 7: gonna get out there right as soon as the rain stops.

693
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 6: And so that's the theory tonight.

694
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 7: I wouldn't say it's a great like if you look

695
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 7: at forecasts and some of the prediction software, you know,

696
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 7: it's not a great night to hunt, per se, But

697
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 7: it's man pretty sure it's November fifth of the rains

698
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 7: about the stop. So I'm gonna get my bucket tree, dude, I'm.

699
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: Fixing to be there too. Man's I'm at least in

700
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 4: spirit because I'm gonna have to drive a little bit today.

701
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, man, those predictions, you know,

702
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: it's interesting. It's a good way to hype yourself up.

703
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: But I mean, a deer sometimes it's only got to

704
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: move just a little bit for you to get a

705
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: shot at him, you know, So even if movement is lackluster,

706
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 4: you know, you're maybe one hundred yards from killing a

707
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: big deer. So it's a good thing. Man. Are the

708
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: acrons a factor up there where you're at, not so much.

709
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 7: I mean, if you do have some white oaks early on,

710
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 7: that would be something to key in on.

711
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 6: There's just there are a lot of white oaks up here.

712
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 7: But I mean this is pretty open country, and so

713
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 7: it's mainly ag and you know, corn and beans.

714
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 6: And then whatever you've planted.

715
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: If you're into plots, okay, So talk about how the

716
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: deer interacting with food right now, whether it's you know,

717
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 4: ag or food plots.

718
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 7: Sure, this is probably the earliest harvest I've seen personally

719
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 7: up here. I mean, i'd have to say in my

720
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 7: area that I'd say eighty to ninety percent of the

721
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 7: crops are out and that's corn and beans together. And

722
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 7: so that's I mean, that's great news to a hunter

723
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 7: like me. So yeah, it's they're starting to hit green

724
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 7: food sources.

725
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 6: If you've got a planet and then cut corn, man,

726
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 6: cut corn is great? Right now?

727
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: Is there are are the combines still inefficient enough to

728
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 4: leave quite a bit of grain that's going to last

729
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 4: a long time this year?

730
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 6: There still is.

731
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 7: I mean right after they come through, I don't think

732
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 7: it lasts maybe more than a couple of weeks to

733
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 7: a month after, but they still leave plenty on the grounds.

734
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 4: Gotcha?

735
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 6: Gotcha?

736
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

737
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: Cool?

738
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 5: So are you planning on trying to group your hunts

739
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 5: this week and trying to you know, make observations and

740
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 5: make moves and string together some hunts with some information

741
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 5: or are you kind of like we talked about well ago, predicting,

742
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 5: you know, looking at the predictions and all that kind

743
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 5: of stuff and trying to pick and choose what days

744
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 5: you go.

745
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 7: I've kind of cleared the schedule, man, to be honest,

746
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 7: and this is this is this is go time.

747
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 6: And so I'm gonna if you.

748
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 7: Know, if my if the if the family front of

749
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 7: the hopefront's good, I'm going to be out there this week.

750
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 7: I'm probably preferring mornings, to be honest with you, and

751
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 7: just trying to get as close to dough betting as possible,

752
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 7: and you know, be down wind of dough betting.

753
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 6: And I think the.

754
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 7: Bucks are going to be cruising and doing their thing

755
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 7: as it relates to dough betting.

756
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 5: You know, you said this was kind of open country.

757
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 5: Do you like to call it bucks? You see, like

758
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 5: maybe even at a distance in that open country? And

759
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 5: do you feel like they're responsive it?

760
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 9: Oh?

761
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love way too early. I called them way

762
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 6: too early. I'm bad about that.

763
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 5: You know.

764
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 7: If twenty minutes go by and I haven't seen anything,

765
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 7: I'm pulling out.

766
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 6: The rattling horse.

767
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 7: But yes, I absolutely will throw the kitchen sink at

768
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 7: a deer.

769
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 4: At this point in the season, gotcha, guys.

770
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 7: I mean start with a grunt, then probably tickle the

771
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 7: horns and then I'll snort, wheeze and you know, get

772
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 7: the next one if they don't come in.

773
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 10: M hm.

774
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: So would you rather sit a green food source right

775
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: now that dose are hitting and hoping that there's you know,

776
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 4: a buck that's going to be cruising the edge of

777
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 4: that field, or would you rather be sitting in pinch

778
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 4: points funnels that kind of thing right now.

779
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 7: I'm at pinch points in funnels phase personally, but it

780
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 7: ideally if those pinch points in funnels can be close

781
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 7: to betting, makes it even better.

782
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: Gotcha, that makes sense. So in the next week, on

783
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 4: a scale of one to ten, what do you think

784
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: buck move is going to be like there in Illinois? Man?

785
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 7: I'm at an eight and a ha half in the

786
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 7: next week, and the only thing keeping it from being

787
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 7: a full blown ten is just the temperatures are not

788
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 7: quite as cold as we'd like them to be.

789
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 6: But it's pretty darn good.

790
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 8: M m man.

791
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: These are good dates and good times.

792
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: Brother.

793
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 5: Thank you for the awesome report, and I hope you

794
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 5: find that buck tonight man.

795
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 6: My pleasure. Thanks Case, Thanks Tyler.

796
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 5: This is hot week. As you can tell, we had

797
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 5: some awesome scores around the country. It is the time

798
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 5: to be in the woods.

799
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: Guys.

800
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 5: We're not gonna beat the dead horse, but you need

801
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 5: to go out there and find you did near. That's

802
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 5: what I need to say say right now. A few

803
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 5: things to keep in mind, all right, Take a deep breath.

804
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 5: It's still a long rut.

805
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, like.

806
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 5: We we aren't running sprints. It's like a mile, which

807
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 5: used to be like a long distance from but nowadays

808
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 5: it's more like a sprint, right, So you just have

809
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 5: to work hard the whole time. But there's some things

810
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 5: to keep in mind. For one, make sure your family's

811
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 5: taken care of, love on them, Call your wife and

812
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 5: kids if you're on the road. Another thing, make sure

813
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 5: you're making good choice is both in life but especially

814
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 5: in the deer woods pertaining to this podcast, Like, don't

815
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 5: do anything drastic, don't do anything dumb just because it's like, ah,

816
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 5: it's gonna work either.

817
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 4: Way, because that's not really at work.

818
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 5: You gotta make some good choices, good decisions when you're

819
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 5: out there, and some things that might help you do that.

820
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: On the Wired to Hunt page, Tony Peterson has a

821
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 5: article out that I actually really needed. It's about decoying

822
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 5: and how to do decoying right, because it's something I'm

823
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 5: really interested in. It's something that really works as time

824
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 5: of year, but I have not really had a ton

825
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 5: of success with it, and so I am very much

826
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 5: interested in how to do that, and I think that

827
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 5: Tony Peterson article is pretty helpful.

828
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Another thing that could help you is

829
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: the Element podcast. This week we talked a lot about

830
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: what hunting in less pressured deer country is like, and

831
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 4: a little bit about what hunting more pressure deer country

832
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: is like and what we can do there. And it

833
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: reminded me of that when you said, you know, just

834
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: doing something crazy for the sake of doing something crazy

835
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 4: didn't matter. It's like walking in five miles is not

836
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 4: necessarily the best thing to do. It doesn't mean you're

837
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 4: in a hut last pressure.

838
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: It used to be and still probably sometimes is me.

839
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 5: I have a little bit of that throw caution from

840
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 5: the wind and make it work kind.

841
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: Of thing, and it works sometimes for you does but

842
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 4: you have a lot of dates, you know what I mean?

843
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 5: One and it's one way to gain a lot of experience,

844
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 5: is my message whole, for sure. But at the same time,

845
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: if you don't have uh, you know, maybe you have

846
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 5: nine days total is fall to hunt.

847
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: You want to make some good choices, right Another good

848
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 4: choice you can make would be to watch the Element's

849
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 4: YouTube videos the last two and actually involve mister K. C.

850
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 4: Smith himself, one of which he kills probably what you

851
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 4: consider it the biggest year of your life.

852
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 5: You know, it depends on what biggest is pertaining to,

853
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 5: but he is overall the coolest.

854
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: Year in my life, maybe the biggest, the coolest one.

855
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: And then there's another one where you're hunting a very

856
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: kind of Southwestern looking place. I don't know exactly where

857
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: it is, but I would say that maybe they chose

858
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 4: you to do Retfresh because you have hunted everywhere from

859
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: you know what looks like Baha to you know what

860
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 4: looks like North Pole. So yeah, you got that experience.

861
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 5: Man, I've been to some North Pole type places and

862
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 5: I ain't I'm you know that everybody's like, that's a

863
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 5: little bit warmer than what we like to be.

864
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, you know, I actually don't mind it.

865
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: This is perfect for me.

866
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: It might be a little cold, I guarantee.

867
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: You well, guys, get out there, get after it. This

868
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 5: is ret Fresh, Keep it fresh.