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Speaker 1: Welcome to another very special edition of the OTP. I'm

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Speaker 1: Amy Wells, joined by the Draft duo coach Day McGinnis

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Speaker 1: and Rhett Brian. Hi guys, thanks for being here. Hi

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Speaker 1: Amy Wells, Hi Riett, Hello Coach Matt Amy. It's good

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Speaker 1: to be joined with both of y'all, looking forward to

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Speaker 1: another OTP and talking a little defensive linemen. Absolutely, we

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Speaker 1: are still remote, we are keeping a distance from each other,

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Speaker 1: but it is good to see your smiling faces via

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Speaker 1: the interwebs. But yes, RHTT, as you said, we are

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Speaker 1: talking defensive linemen, and I think that this is going

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Speaker 1: to be a really fun topic to come and talk

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Speaker 1: about because well, defensive line is kind of important. And Mac,

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Speaker 1: I want to start with you because you and I

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Speaker 1: were having some conversations before we did this podcast, trying to,

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Speaker 1: about putting our notes together, and you had mentioned something

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Speaker 1: of these guys in this defensive line group could grade

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Speaker 1: a little differently, like four different teams teams. Teams could

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Speaker 1: that a team likes or needs explain that to me.

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Speaker 1: What does a team's flavor mean? Well, And first of all,

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Speaker 1: it depends on how you're going to deploy your front,

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Speaker 1: be able to join together. But also your front can

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Speaker 1: be different. Are you gonna are you going to deploy

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Speaker 1: to do? What type of defense are you going to play?

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Speaker 1: From front to back? And that's what's important, because some

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Speaker 1: guys as defensive front people, some guys are better suited

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Speaker 1: two gap players is is they're able to fire off

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Speaker 1: Some people like to use their defensive front as the

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Speaker 1: people to run those gaps and then let the linebackers

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Speaker 1: the gaps have been canceled and players have different abilities

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Speaker 1: to do this. And so depending on what your philosophy is,

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Speaker 1: and what's your defensive scheme philosophy is, there are different

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Speaker 1: types or flavors, as I said, of defensive linemen that

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Speaker 1: fit into your scheme. Now, Red, I want to start

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Speaker 1: are a lot of different positions within a defensive line.

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Speaker 1: A lot of different guys make up the initial line.

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Speaker 1: Our team's grading different positions differently and placing different values

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Speaker 1: on the different positions within that one line. I would

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Speaker 1: think so, And that's just kind of figgybacking off what

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Speaker 1: whether you're a four three defense. But yeah, absolutely, I

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Speaker 1: there seems to be a consensus that Auburn's Derek Brown

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Speaker 1: You know, both of these guys, amy are able to

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Speaker 1: much equally. Well, they're both They're both big physical guys.

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Speaker 1: But you're talking about a guy like a Ross Blacklock

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Speaker 1: And then we get into the lay rounds with you know,

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Speaker 1: the middle of the bottom of the first round. Mac,

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Speaker 1: what about you, Are there any guys that you think

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Speaker 1: He's He's covered most of those. My next guy after

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Speaker 1: A lot of that depends on that. But to me,

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned Marlon Davidson who was Derek Brown's team

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Speaker 1: that second to third round that would be hanging around. Now, Mac,

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Speaker 1: there's a guy. There's a guy named Laurell Murchison that's

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Speaker 1: of that spectrum, Amy, let's talk about a guy named

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Speaker 1: leaky Foetu from from Utah. Now, this is a six five,

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Speaker 1: backup running back or you find a veteran or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Those are some things and three or four things that

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Speaker 1: I think are important to the Titans as we sit

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Speaker 1: here the low three weeks away from the draft. All right, well, guys,

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Speaker 1: it is always so good to talk to you. There's

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Speaker 1: always lots to discuss, and we will continue with these

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Speaker 1: because there are more positions to talk about and Rett.

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned, the draft is roughly three weeks away,

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Speaker 1: so coach Mac, Dave McGinnis, Rett Brian, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for being here. Well appreciate it as always. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks Amy, Thanks Ritt all right for coach Mac and

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Speaker 1: Rett Brian. I'm Emmy Wells and this has been BOTP