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Speaker 1: When you first got to the league, who was the

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Speaker 3: M W.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is this isn't like rookie year, Michael

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Speaker 2: Carl Williams. This is like my rookie year twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Michael Carter Williams. You know, like I think he had

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Speaker 2: just got signed, but Fox got hurt. As my first

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Speaker 4: I couldn't check him. He just kept getting the rim

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Michael Carter Williams.

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Speaker 1: He came to the league like on the Terror when

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Speaker 2: Man, and I remember when I was I was a

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Speaker 2: and they used to like say, like I was like

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Speaker 6: Long, you know, man, he killed me, yo yo yo,

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Speaker 6: we live on location Orlando, Florida. We at home. I

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Speaker 6: got the blackest one with me today. We got a

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Speaker 6: very special guest. We got a young and upcoming superstar

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Speaker 6: We got an Indiana pacer. We got young Tyrese Helly

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you, young fella.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee westconsin. It's some ballers from Milwaukee West Coasts, Midwest,

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, you could have been like you like

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Speaker 1: Growing up in Milwaukee, I know your pops was deep

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Speaker 2: Well, like my thing was, I grew up my whole life.

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Speaker 4: You know, it was came kind of easy.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready to you know, take that next jump. Did

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Speaker 4: your pops used to hoop? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: He did?

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Speaker 3: He shut his pops.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, pops be watching the show with him when I first,

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Speaker 6: I told him, when you get big time, don't do

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Speaker 6: I watch this stuff me and my pops. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 6: that's what's that? So, man, shout out to your pops, man,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Who taught you out of a who gave you the

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: He's from Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: He's been around all these greats your name, and like

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Speaker 3: You got the win.

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Speaker 6: You'll see a year winning state championship at your high

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Speaker 3: Or had you any of your four years had you

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Speaker 2: Our Arrival high school had two when I was like

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Speaker 4: I was crying like that two hours right home.

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Speaker 4: We were on the mission. We're like man, we gotta win.

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Speaker 5: What about mister Wisconsin, Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: Who he is, Jordan McKay.

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Speaker 6: He first of all, you about trying to bess me,

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Speaker 7: How the hell who is he? He was a look

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Speaker 3: I think they voted senior year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm not even gonna get into it. I'm not.

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna do it. You're trying to give me hype.

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Speaker 1: If it was if it was any other college that

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Speaker 2: Be honest, Northern Iowa, Northern Iowa. Yeah, So I was,

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Speaker 2: And we played Team Rio, who had Brian Antoine who's

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Speaker 7: I had a really good game.

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Speaker 7: Sitting in the living room crying because she because we

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Speaker 6: How was it when you got to Iowa was saying,

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Speaker 4: He'd be there all day because he had a red

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Speaker 2: So I just followed him. I was attached to his head.

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Speaker 2: We work out together. He didn't have class as much.

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Speaker 2: I work out after. I trying to go back at night.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm just doing whatever he was doing. And we

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Speaker 4: Get red shirted.

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Speaker 2: In my head, I'm like no, what, Like I'm thinking, like, damn,

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Speaker 4: And uh yeah, the rest is history.

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Speaker 1: From there, you set a record your first year, seventeen assists.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about that game. Seventeen assists in college in

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Speaker 4: We didn't miss that game.

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Speaker 2: We played Southern I remember it was like, you know,

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Speaker 5: Was like, they knew the record.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: So because like I said, I was the two guards,

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Speaker 4: I just happened to have the ball, get people the ball.

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Speaker 1: When did you know that you was on the level?

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Speaker 1: You know, playing at our state, you play some good teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Would say the first like Stamp I got that, I

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Speaker 2: It was one of those games early when everybody's on

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Speaker 7: And I was like, yeah, I know, I belong And

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Speaker 1: Off fifty steals, fifty blocks in the season. The only

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Speaker 5: When you've seen that achievement that you accomplished.

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Speaker 1: Was you shot because I know you're not keeping up

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Speaker 1: with the numbers, You're not not chicking.

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Speaker 5: I got ten mobilocks. Yeah I got this. But to

446
00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,159
Speaker 5: see it at the end of your coming from a

447
00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,639
Speaker 5: point guard, like, how was that?

448
00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

449
00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,439
Speaker 2: You know, it was crazy at the time because when

450
00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,800
Speaker 2: they put that stat out, I thought it was a

451
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,480
Speaker 2: joke at first.

452
00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,800
Speaker 4: I was like, in no way, this is for real.

453
00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,160
Speaker 2: Like I know, I know I'm a good steals because

454
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,840
Speaker 2: we played one three one in high school, Like I

455
00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,879
Speaker 2: was on the wing. I probably truth the average by

456
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,400
Speaker 2: like six steals my senior year in high school. And

457
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,320
Speaker 2: uh so, like I've always had a knack for just

458
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,080
Speaker 2: being in passing lanes. So that's just even today, I'm

459
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,600
Speaker 2: you know, through my first three years in the league,

460
00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm top five and steals.

461
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

462
00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like I knew I get steals. But the

463
00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,800
Speaker 2: block side of things is just I think it's like

464
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,840
Speaker 2: you said, it's just kind of unassuming. And I think

465
00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,720
Speaker 2: I've I do a good job of, you know, fighting

466
00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,399
Speaker 2: through ball screens if I get hit, just trying to

467
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,840
Speaker 2: keep you know, trying to get the backside contest and

468
00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,600
Speaker 2: you know, getting getting my hand on the ball.

469
00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:42,240
Speaker 1: Uh.

470
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,879
Speaker 2: And I think I do a good job too of hiding,

471
00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,439
Speaker 2: like putting my hand out when you you know you're jabbing,

472
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,119
Speaker 2: you think it's there, and just putting my hand up

473
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,479
Speaker 2: at the right time and blocking shots.

474
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Speaker 6: How big was it you played on the nineteen and

475
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,120
Speaker 6: that there in between your freshman and sophomore year, right,

476
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 6: How big was that you played with all of them boys,

477
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Speaker 6: Scotty Barns, K Cunningham, Jalen Green, Jalen sus Like, how

478
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 6: impactful was that, you know, going in playing because I

479
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,880
Speaker 6: played on that too, going into high school. A bunch

480
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 6: of us from that team, we all made the league,

481
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,560
Speaker 6: Mike Miller, a bunch of guys.

482
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,679
Speaker 3: How impactful was that for you?

483
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 6: Going like playing that after you having a solid freshman

484
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,359
Speaker 6: year then going to that did you did you feel

485
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,440
Speaker 6: like that helped you going into that sophomore year?

486
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

487
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,399
Speaker 4: What it did everything for me?

488
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,000
Speaker 2: Like you talked about, you know, I talked about that,

489
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,720
Speaker 2: Bill self comment. Kind of I knew I was, you know,

490
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,520
Speaker 2: good in college, but after Team USA, I knew I was.

491
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 4: Going to NBA.

492
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 2: Like it was from there, I was like, I'm going

493
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 2: to league after this year because going into that I

494
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 2: after my freshman year, Bruce Weber called our head coach

495
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,200
Speaker 2: he was coaching the USA team.

496
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,959
Speaker 4: He's like, I want Tyist to come. I want him

497
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:47,400
Speaker 4: on the team.

498
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Speaker 2: So I'm like, I don't know what to expect, but

499
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,119
Speaker 2: I'm like, I've always wanted to play for USA.

500
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 4: That'd be pretty cool.

501
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,199
Speaker 2: And I remember getting there and all these top, you know,

502
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 2: top kids. This is a social media era, so I've

503
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 2: seen all these kids.

504
00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 5: I don't know the top of the top.

505
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah I don't.

506
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 2: I don't know them, but I see them on Instagram

507
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 2: and Twitter and stuff. And I'm just out there hooping

508
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 2: and just trying to make the team. And I remember,

509
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 2: like first couple of days, Coach Hopkins at Washington came

510
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 2: up to me and Kate when we were shooting. He

511
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 2: was like, man, I can't wait to go to Greece

512
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 2: with y'all. I said what, I'm like, already you already

513
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 2: telling me this. I called my mom when I got

514
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 2: to say, book the flight going to You're coming with

515
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,199
Speaker 2: me to Grease And after that, it was like just

516
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,959
Speaker 2: being around those guys made me understand like if these

517
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 2: guys are NBA players. Then I'm an NBA right in Yeah, yeah,

518
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 2: and it just happened so naturally, and I think, yeah,

519
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 2: I think the whole.

520
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 4: Top five of last year's draft was on that team.

521
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 2: Like we had some guys like one of if I

522
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 2: hope when you know, when you go down and talk

523
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 2: about USA teams, that's a that's a crazy USA team.

524
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

525
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 1: It was one of the big things. My homeboys used

526
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 1: to tell me. He was scared for me when I

527
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: went straight out of high school. He was like, man,

528
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 1: you finishing to play against some NBA players. Then when

529
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 1: he started seeing me with NBA players, I looked like.

530
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Speaker 5: One of them.

531
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then when he told me then I felt

532
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 1: that way I'm saying once I got around and that's

533
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: just the feeling you got when you're around them because

534
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: all them names are NBA guys.

535
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 6: Talk about just that overall experience for you, like because

536
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 6: all of us, like you said, we all grew up

537
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 6: like we we we want to emulate what we see,

538
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 6: like we saw Dream Team and all this like this

539
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 6: is like your first opportunity, like hopefully at some point

540
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 6: you get to play for the real, you know, the

541
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 6: real the men's team to get selected and to get

542
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 6: the go over the grease and then when you up

543
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 6: there and you getting that gold metal like we were

544
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 6: in Dominican Republican we did our but like to be

545
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Speaker 6: hon it, you know, how you get to stand up

546
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 6: there like the Olympic, you people, and you like, how

547
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 6: did that feel for you?

548
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Speaker 3: And then like for you, you know, you from Oshkosh

549
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 3: and you up here with.

550
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Speaker 6: All these guys you seen on the internet and all

551
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 6: of this stuff and you amongst them, you wanted them

552
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 6: like how does that feel for you?

553
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

554
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 7: It was.

555
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 2: It was such a surreal feeling and hard to put

556
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: into words because, like you said, like where I come from,

557
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: it's not even you know what I mean. And you know,

558
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 2: I was one of I'm like the first kid from roscotchh.

559
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 4: To be in the NBA. So anything I do in

560
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 4: the NBA, I'm the.

561
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: First kid for Roshcosh right, But to be out there

562
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: was kind of that first real stamp for me that

563
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: I knew something something special was gonna happen. And when

564
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 2: I reflect on that, it's it's such an amazing feeling.

565
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: And like you said, I hope that I'm able to play,

566
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: you know, in the Olympics next if not next year,

567
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: then you know, hopefully soon.

568
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 4: And my mom was with me too, so that just

569
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 4: meant the world to me.

570
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 2: And my mom got to be able to be there

571
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: to experience that, you know, and like I said, it's

572
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: just a surreal feeling. And hopefully I'm able to you know,

573
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 2: get to get the big gold one day.

574
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 8: Now.

575
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 6: I enjoyed stories like that because you you weren't a

576
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 6: McDonald's kid. You weren't McDonald's all American right now. So yeah,

577
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 6: like that's like the proof, like you know, like d

578
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 6: Wade wasn't McDonald's, but look at him, like you you

579
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, didn't make McDonald's. But look two years,

580
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 6: a year later, you on the You don't say I'm

581
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 6: Olympic team getting gold. Now you on your way, you

582
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So all of that's always dope

583
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 6: to me. It's just an example that for guys, you

584
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 6: know how some high school cauld we all put a

585
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 6: lot of stock into certain things, goals, and making McDonald's

586
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 6: just like one of those benchmark things. And so it's

587
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,479
Speaker 6: like they show you, like even if you didn't make it,

588
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 6: like you know what I'm saying, Boom, I'm gonna steal

589
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 6: downs right back, and you still could be right where

590
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 6: you want to be for sure.

591
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 4: For sure.

592
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: Your sophomore year, you know, your mindset was like, yeah,

593
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: after this year, we're going pro.

594
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 5: But you hurt your wrists?

595
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: Was it discouraging after you season in and hurting your

596
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: risk going into the draft because you want to be

597
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: one hundred percent for the teams to see you.

598
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was that.

599
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 4: For oh man, it was terrible.

600
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: It was terrible because I was playing really well and

601
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: going into conference place we didn't even played our first

602
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: conference game yet, and I went to dunk on somebody

603
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: in practice and he blocked me, and I tried to

604
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: catch myself and my wrist was hurting so bad, and

605
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 2: we did the x ray and nothing showed nothing. And

606
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: from then on, so I played nine or ten conference

607
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: games that year, So we played. I probably had like

608
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 2: twelve more games a year. If my left risk got hit,

609
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: it was just gonna numb. Like I couldn't even feel

610
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: my wrists for like, it was just go numb, and

611
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: then it come back a couple of minutes later.

612
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly right.

613
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: And everybody knew too, because I had the big tape

614
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: crossed my hand like everybody knew. And it was just

615
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: so frustrating because there I just felt like limited to

616
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 2: a point, like I can't show everything I want to.

617
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: And I had had a good, you know, pre conference season,

618
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: and so I felt like that had helped me, but

619
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: I couldn't use it as an excuse. I just had

620
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: to had to hoop. So I had to get through that.

621
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: And then we get through the first nine games or

622
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 2: the first half of conference play, and I'm frustrated, and

623
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, we got a good second half

624
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: of the schedule.

625
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get going.

626
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: Remember playing K State, I go up to block a

627
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 2: shot and it takes my legs out and I go

628
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: to catch myself again, just human instincts, you know, And

629
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: I felt I just heard a snap and I went

630
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 2: to the back and I remember they took the tape off.

631
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: I put my wrists like this, and it was just.

632
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 7: Like I was like, my dad, can't my dad. My

633
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 7: dad ran to the back.

634
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: My parents was in the back, and I was like,

635
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 2: I'm good, just you know, tape it up.

636
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 7: Whatever.

637
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 4: Played like five minutes.

638
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 7: I couldn't even I couldn't even catch the ball, Like if.

639
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: You threw me a ball.

640
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: I had to go like this and catch my right

641
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: and then tap it down. And I knew my season

642
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: was over.

643
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 5: I just knew.

644
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: And it was frustrating because I'm sitting here telling y'all

645
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: knew I was gonna leave after my sophomore here, and

646
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: on the inside I did.

647
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 4: But man, I loved college, like.

648
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 2: Not the lifestyle as much as just like I really

649
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: invest in people, and so those coaches and my teammates

650
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: and and all the people at Iowa State I had

651
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 2: such great relationships with. I didn't for sure say I

652
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: was gonna leave. Ever, Like my teammates used to get

653
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 2: on me in the back because they'd be like next

654
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: year when you're in the league, and I'm like, I

655
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm gonna go to the league, and

656
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: they're like, you're going to the league, like we're not

657
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: letting you stay. And I remember meeting with coach Prom

658
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 2: at the end on our exit meeting and me and

659
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: my dad in there and my mom's in there. He's

660
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: talking about and he's like and I'm like, hell, whach,

661
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: I don't really know if I'm gonna leave, And he said, well, you're.

662
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 4: Not coming back here if you come back here.

663
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: I risking my job for you know, you to come

664
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: back to school, so so.

665
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 5: They help you make the decisions.

666
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

667
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was made for me. And I knew I

668
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: had to because you got to go and take advantage

669
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 2: of you know, your age and all those things. And

670
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: I was already two years in college and that's like

671
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: old now, you know, So I had to.

672
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: I had to just go, so to go to process

673
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: and you heard, you know, you rehabing, really you know

674
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And you have to go to teams,

675
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: and you know, teams these days, they gonna pick at

676
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: every little thing. You're too skinny, or you're not tall

677
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: enough to do this, or you your arms too short

678
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: or you know what I'm saying. How to hear that

679
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: criticism about you, to go through the draft process of

680
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: before teams picking me.

681
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

682
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 6: No.

683
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 2: The good part was it was COVID, so I had

684
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 2: the longest pre draft process ever. I mean, by the

685
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 2: time I was done with my rehabit, my risk was

686
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: you know, almost fully good.

687
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 4: That's when teams could only come out and see us.

688
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 4: So I was. I felt good.

689
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: And when the teams got to see me work out,

690
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 2: I think I worked out. You can only do one

691
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: on one workout, so like teams had to fly to

692
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: Vegas to see me there to clear the gym out.

693
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: And I worked out with like Detroit, Golden State, Minnesota.

694
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 5: So you can't work out against others.

695
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: This was doing cod COD first.

696
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 6: This is our first guess this draft there like this

697
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 6: is this is this is a unique situation. He went

698
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 6: under different circumstances. The whole world was in the pandemic, right,

699
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

700
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 4: I worked out for like four or five teams.

701
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: Uh, we do like a little meeting before and then

702
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: you know, jump into the workout. I had good workouts

703
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: and didn't know we didn't really know what to anticipate

704
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: going into the draft. I remember there was some Yeah,

705
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: there was some really dumb things being said in those

706
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: meetings though, Like the questions were unbelievable sometimes and trying

707
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: to like, you know, stay, I feel like I'm a mature.

708
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 7: Guy, like trying to like you say something to me,

709
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 7: and I'm just like looking at him like are you serious?

710
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: Like no way, You're for real.

711
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: But that just kind of comes with the territory. And

712
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: sometimes I feel like they're doing it to test you.

713
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: To see how you're going to react. But you know,

714
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: the process was fun for me. It was like, I mean,

715
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: my season got done in March. The world shut down

716
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: in March. The draft wasn't until November, so we had

717
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: eight months of the draft. It was so long, but

718
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: it was It was so fun though, because it was

719
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: like working on your game for eight months. So by

720
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: the time I got to the league, I just felt

721
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: like a lot more comfortable.

722
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 3: And you work out for the Kings.

723
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, didn't work out for the king They

724
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: didn't even call me till the day before the draft,

725
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: Like I didn't even have a conversation with that.

726
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: My agent is the one who begged me to even

727
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 4: get on.

728
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: The phone with them, and I was like, why are

729
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: we getting on the phone with them, Like if they

730
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: want me, they'll pick me, like it is what it is.

731
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 7: And he's like, just get on with them.

732
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 4: They really like you.

733
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: And I remember getting on and they were like, we're

734
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: trying to trade up to get you. We really like you.

735
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 4: I ain't have to trade up. I fell to twelve.

736
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 4: So it worked out well.

737
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: The draft, Like tell us go through that because you

738
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: part of the pandemic, so go through that. Whole process.

739
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: A lot of guys go to the draft, they suit

740
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: song and stuff. You can't go outside. I didn't go.

741
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: There was nowhere to go. So tell us what it was, Okay,

742
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: tell us the process of how they did your draft.

743
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the ESPN to the top, like the top

744
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: guys who are going to be on the camera. They

745
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: sent a car to everybody's house. So I had a

746
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: dude in my garage right with all the wires.

747
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 7: Hooked up to a car with a big satellite in

748
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 7: the in my driveway.

749
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: So like already this is I live on the same

750
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: street as high school, so like already everybody knows where

751
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: I live, and like they know the drift coming first

752
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: came from Oscots.

753
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 5: You got a big, big car on the tide.

754
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: Of my house.

755
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: But they had cameras in my house because and it

756
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: would like follow. The dude in the garage was controlling

757
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: the camera to like so he was going around people right,

758
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: Like I can't even go in my living room for

759
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: twenty four hours because like camera said. But I remember

760
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: we hopped on a PA meeting with or like a

761
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: meeting with Silver like they would do at the draft.

762
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: But they showed everybody's house, like inside of everybody's house.

763
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: In the meeting, it was cool, man, Like I had

764
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: my suit delivered, My family was there, and like, you

765
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: can only have so many people on the camera, so

766
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: you had to, you know, put chairs behind the camera

767
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: so that they couldn't see that you had more people there.

768
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: Wisconsin was very lenient towards COVID.

769
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 3: So what was what was your suit? Looking like?

770
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: I had like a blue floral?

771
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 6: Uh blue.

772
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: I knew I had to do something different.

773
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you, I know these things. You had

774
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 6: your ankles out.

775
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: Didn't you have my ankles out?

776
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 7: For sure?

777
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 4: I have my ankles out. I wouldn't do that again.

778
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna do that be.

779
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 6: A part of the life association that man I knew

780
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 6: he had.

781
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: I knew it. What I knew it he had?

782
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: How was it just like you know, like we got

783
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: dressed and we went somewhere for a draft. You got

784
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: dressed and sit in your living room, Yeah, for the draft.

785
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 4: And my mom was preparing to because we knew it

786
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: was not gonna.

787
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: Being like for like a month two months leading up

788
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: to us, she's working on need.

789
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 7: The walls, repainted, need the carpet.

790
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: We did my Jersey's friend.

791
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: We need all this stuff.

792
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: Moms was figuring it out, but man, it was crazy

793
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: because I'm sitting here in my my couch and my family,

794
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: my girl with me, my brothers with me, and every

795
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: pick going by, We're just looking at it and I'm

796
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: looking over my agent because I mean, going into the draft,

797
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, Jay billis does his best

798
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: available and I was fourth, so we kind of knew

799
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: the top three was going to be wise men, mellow.

800
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 7: So after that it was kind of open season.

801
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: So every pick that went on from there, they just

802
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: panned to me, panned to me, and I'm just sitting.

803
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 7: There, you know what I mean, Like what am I

804
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 7: supposed to do?

805
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know what's gonna happen, but I knew

806
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: the Kings guaranteed me at twelve, so I was like,

807
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: worst case, I'm just gonna go twelve and uh. And

808
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: then it ended up I think four was Patrick Williams

809
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: and the Bulls, and he had a guarantee. I told

810
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: the Calves and the Hawks, don't even don't pick me,

811
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: Please don't pick me. I thought the Pistons might, and

812
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: that's kind of where I wanted to go, they took

813
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: a different direction and went kill you in and then

814
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: the Knicks would have been fired.

815
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: They took Obi uh the Wizards.

816
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: The Wizards actually called me and were like, we're picking

817
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: you at like the sixth pick. They called me that

818
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: we're picking you at nine. I'm like what, I ain't

819
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: even I never worked out for them. I never conversated

820
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: with them.

821
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 7: They still had Jay Wall right, so I'm like, what

822
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 7: what whatever, I'm just whatever, let's make it work. Called

823
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 7: me back at the eighth pick and We're like, we're

824
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 7: not picking me.

825
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: I was like, thank god, you know what I mean.

826
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: I ended up sliding to twelve, and I was just excited.

827
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: But like I said, I only had one conversation with

828
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 2: them up to that point. I was not familiar with

829
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: the team at all other than Fox and Marvin.

830
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 6: Is it safe to say that, like y'all like the

831
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 6: probably like the most famous family in as Cash. Yeah,

832
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 6: like the satellite and all that, Like go like, yeah,

833
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 6: you're the only kid from there.

834
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: They went to the NBA, right, and you know, my

835
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: pops and you live on the street, the same street

836
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: the high school.

837
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: Like it's got to be us, It's got to be us.

838
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: So hearing as you you going to the Kings and

839
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: you know who the dearon Fox is and how good

840
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: of a player is. Did you think that y'all can

841
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: play together or do you think that you're coming right

842
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: in and just backing them up.

843
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: No.

844
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 7: I thought for sure we could play together because like

845
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 7: I played the two like I had to.

846
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: So it was like, now it's just kind of getting

847
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: back to what I've done before.

848
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: I know what I'm doing to be to be the

849
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 4: two guard, and I think the way the league is.

850
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: Going now, you know there's you need you know, his position, listen,

851
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: like you kind of need to point guards on the

852
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: floor at times, you know, for the you know, like

853
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: two guys that you know can direct offenses, like even

854
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: you look at Golden State, like Draymond is really you know,

855
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: a point in terms of getting guys in positions and

856
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: things like that.

857
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: So I was like, no, this can work. It's gonna

858
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: be fun. I was really excited.

859
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: And when I got there, my rookie year coming, I

860
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: was like, whatever they need me to do, I'm gonna do.

861
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: So it came off the bench and you know.

862
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: I would sub Fox a little bit, play with Fox

863
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: a little bit. It was a fun growing experience. I

864
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: learned a lot.

865
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: Let me ask you just for all the criticism you

866
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: had through the draft, do you hear people say anything

867
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: about your shot now?

868
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 5: Nah?

869
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 4: No, I mean you do you do?

870
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 5: Like going through it going into the.

871
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: Three point contest, they was like, my brother sent me

872
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: I had the second lowest odds and they were like

873
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: his shot is too slow?

874
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 7: Like, are y'all do y'all watch me play?

875
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 6: Hey, this is the funniest thing. What like what when

876
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 6: you first heard that? What did you think? Like when

877
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 6: you was hearing people say like, is he gonna be

878
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 6: able to get his shot off?

879
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: Is gonna be able to do this? And can't shoot? Like?

880
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: What did you think about that?

881
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 7: I was just laugh because again it's like, do you

882
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 7: watch me play basketball? You know what I mean?

883
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: Like because I'm playing against your playing and you're against

884
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 2: your peers in high school and college, and I know

885
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: I'm coming to NBA and everybody's bigger, faster, stronger. Yeah,

886
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: but y'all think I'm just about to go to shoot

887
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: it and a dude just gonna block It's gonna hit

888
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: me in my face.

889
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 4: Like I'm not a little kid, Like I understand to

890
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 4: get separation and things like that. It used to make

891
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 4: me so mad.

892
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: And I used to and they, you know, Swiss Cultures

893
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: or Courtside Films or whoever, would post my workouts from

894
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: you know, pre draft, and the comments would be nothing

895
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: but like this ain't gonna work. And I used to

896
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: go in there and I would reply to everybody, but

897
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: I'll just be like, all right, y'all gonna see it,

898
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: because like I've shot forty percent from three basically my

899
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: whole life, So it.

900
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 4: Wasn't that was never a concern for me.

901
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 7: Uh.

902
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: And it's funny when people still bring it up, because

903
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: it's like it's such a thing at a past and.

904
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 5: People I don't, I don't really hear it no more.

905
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: I remember they was talking about it doing your draft,

906
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: but now like I don't hear it at all.

907
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 6: That's because he's having motherfuckers go that way and he

908
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 6: folk feet over here standing there shooting matter.

909
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: Take it to a separation with Shifty.

910
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 6: It's crazy now, But like that was I remember, because

911
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 6: you know, I had kind of a funny shot, not

912
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 6: as you know, not as critique these yours, but I

913
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 6: you know, did anybody ever try and change your shot?

914
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 7: Man?

915
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 4: It was like, Uh.

916
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: When I got to college, we had Dave Hobbs, coach

917
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: of Kentucky. He was assistant for us, and we worked

918
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: out and I remember him, you know, working with me

919
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: on my shot. But it always made me laugh when

920
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: I work with people with my shot, cause it's like,

921
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: just watch me work out for an hour and then

922
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: you tell me if you want to change it. And

923
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: I used to tell him that, and I remember first

924
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: or second workout, He's like, you're good.

925
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 6: He's saying about that all the time because I you know,

926
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 6: I had people trying to change my shot. Man, listen,

927
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 6: if it's going in, it's going in. I don't care

928
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 6: about all that. Like, don't know, shot look prettier than

929
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 6: the shot that's going in. And I don't care how

930
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 6: it started out. When it finished going in, that's the

931
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 6: prettiest shot in the book. You can have a perfect

932
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 6: shot that ain't going there, Like, I don't care you

933
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 6: talking about every time I ever tried to change my shot,

934
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 6: it missed. So I was like, nah, I know I

935
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 6: come from a little bit over here, but I'm gonna

936
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 6: stay with it. Like, look, I'm hitting, like you say,

937
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 6: ain't nobody blocking myself?

938
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: And coaches, no coaches, no.

939
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: Like when I got I had a good workout with

940
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: the Warriors, like a good workout, and I had a

941
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: good conversation with you know, coach Kerr.

942
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: And when I got.

943
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: Drafted this Sacramento Luke, coach Walton didn't know nothing about me,

944
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: you know, like he was just told what the front

945
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: office said, like I wasn't a part of their like

946
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: they didn't think it was realistic to really get me.

947
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: And he told me when I got drafted, coach Kirk

948
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: called him and was like, whatever you do.

949
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 7: Don't mess with this shot, you know what I mean.

950
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: And when Luke told me that story, I laughed because

951
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, if this guy is telling

952
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: you not to mess with my shot, then who's.

953
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: When did you feel because you know this the league

954
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: now and you know everybody is good and you playing

955
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: the hardest position in the league to play, when did

956
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: you feel like, yeah, I supposed to be here.

957
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 5: I'm a threat too.

958
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

959
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: I would say I had a lot of success earlier

960
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: by rookie year, coming off the bench, playing that we

961
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: played like the Bulls early, we played the Nuggets early,

962
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: and I had really good games against both those teams.

963
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: And that's just I was like, man, I really feel

964
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: like I belong, you know, I really feel like I

965
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: can be a good player in the league. And I

966
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't say to where I am now. I didn't really

967
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: have that feel until like my second year, when everybody

968
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: was going down with COVID. Fox got caught, everybody got cold.

969
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: We had like seven dudes. I was kind of just

970
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: thrown to the fire. We were playing the Spurs, playing

971
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: to Jane Murray, who you know, y'all know was a

972
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: good defender in this league, and I was just kind

973
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: of thrown to the wolves.

974
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: I had to be the point guard. I knew I

975
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 4: was going to play.

976
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: Like forty something minutes, I had a really good game,

977
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: and then I was like, whoa, Like that's the first

978
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: time I've ever really felt that way about my game before,

979
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 2: Like I really feel like I can be like really special.

980
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: And then during again, while everybody was out with COVID,

981
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: I was playing really well, you know, but as the

982
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: full time point guard, you know, and then when Fox

983
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: came back, you know, we were sharing responsibilities and things

984
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 2: like that, and it's you know, we were still figuring

985
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: it out by the time I got traded.

986
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 4: But I knew that this was this was definitely possible.

987
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 6: Tim, Like you said, you you uh, you invest in people,

988
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 6: and you talked about like I saw you did an

989
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 6: article with the players should be on after the trade

990
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 6: and you talked about how you were surprised. Just tell

991
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 6: me about how that like business of the basketball world,

992
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 6: Like how that felt that, you know, be a young

993
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 6: guy that you think you up and coming in this situation,

994
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 6: you think they like you and they want you to

995
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 6: do all this and then it's like boom.

996
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: Like how did that feel?

997
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 6: And how did that like reality get rocked with that

998
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 6: call and that that information.

999
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a reality check, man, It's such a

1000
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: reality check because when you come to the league, you

1001
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 2: think you're bigger than everything. You're on top of the world,

1002
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 2: like they're just here, you know, and uh, we're getting

1003
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: that call. It was like the first time in my

1004
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: in my basketball career, probably since like high school.

1005
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 7: Because you know when your high school, you know.

1006
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: You're a highly recruited you're a recruited kid like people

1007
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: everybody shows you love, like you're on top of the world.

1008
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: It was the first time I felt like unwanted, you

1009
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And it was a weird feeling

1010
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: because I'm not unwanted. The Pacers wanted me, you know

1011
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: what I mean, and it's a business decision, and that

1012
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: it works for them. I mean, they're one of the

1013
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: best teams in the West right now, they're playing good.

1014
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it worked for everybody. But the first time

1015
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: I felt I wanted it was weird. It was a

1016
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: weird feeling, like I couldn't really control my emotions because

1017
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: it was like it can't really put in the words

1018
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: because it's just it was so weird. And reflecting on it,

1019
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: I feel like it's really helped me grow as a

1020
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: person and understand it like humility and all and all

1021
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: those different things and understanding I'm not and I'm not

1022
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: bigger than you know, the world. And I remember my

1023
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: guy Isaac he's our video coordinator now, but he was

1024
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: with me in sack as well, and he was like, hey, man,

1025
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: Shaq got traded, you know what I mean, Like and

1026
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: I never thought about it like that, but like, okay,

1027
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 2: he's right, Like and now you look, Kdi got traded

1028
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: like everybody.

1029
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, the best players in the world get traded.

1030
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: So it's like it don't mean nothing like anybody can

1031
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: get traded, and that's the crazy part about the business.

1032
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 2: And I'm sure y'all can you know, you know, share

1033
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: my sentiment, Like when you first get in the league,

1034
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: they're asking you about the trade deadline, around the deadline.

1035
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 4: Like how does it feel a deadline approaching?

1036
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 7: Man?

1037
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: I remember being that in that postgame presser, like we

1038
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: all got to be professionals, you know, And I walked

1039
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: out and I was like why they're asking me that,

1040
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: Like I'm the last one to get traded from here,

1041
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm not getting traded and that boom

1042
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: just hit me, you know, and.

1043
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: Talk about how quick the process is, cause like you

1044
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: just in Sacramento and then you gotta take this flight

1045
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: all the way across the country and like the next day,

1046
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: and like you're.

1047
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 6: Doing with those emotions, so like you still like that's trying.

1048
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 5: To apprehended you already, and they still.

1049
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 6: Got some little anger to us, like the fuck just happened,

1050
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 6: like and you gotta show up and smile and be

1051
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 6: like ready to go Indiana.

1052
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: Like like how is that?

1053
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 6: I've never had the you know, the I've never been

1054
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 6: traded mid season like that, So it's always been like

1055
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 6: a time for me to collect myself and get myself together.

1056
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: How was that when you.

1057
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 6: Gotta go within like twenty four to forty eight hours

1058
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 6: to being all in over here and thinking it's good,

1059
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 6: then dealing with the fact that you got like.

1060
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: Damn, I ain't they just sit in my hand.

1061
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 6: It's like you gotta deal with that, collect yourself, then

1062
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 6: go say, well they did, won't we Let me get okay,

1063
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 6: this can be cool.

1064
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 3: Let me get excited about that. Like how how was

1065
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: it challenging.

1066
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 6: As far as switching those emotions that short of a

1067
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 6: time period.

1068
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, it wasn't a little anger. It was a lot

1069
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 7: of anger.

1070
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: And I was just angry at the world. I was

1071
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: angry at everybody, Like nobody talked to me, you know.

1072
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 7: Uh.

1073
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: And we got traded that morning. We had a game

1074
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: that night. I was getting ready to go to the gym and

1075
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: get my treatment. We played like the Temples. I got

1076
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: traded that morning. I remember people were just kind of

1077
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: funnel into the house, like King, photographers, King, like just

1078
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 2: like people that I'm close with, you know, photographers, staff members.

1079
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: People were showing up at the house, trainers, whatever, just

1080
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: you know, to talk to me and things like that. Yeah, yeah,

1081
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: because you know, like I said, I mean, I invest

1082
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: in people, and I think it's important. You know, y'all

1083
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: know this this world is about relationships, especially in the league,

1084
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: because you meet so many people that you never know

1085
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: what could happen, you know what I mean. You have

1086
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: no idea what could happen and how they might be

1087
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: able to help you. You might be able to help them,

1088
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 2: or it's just mutually beneficial. But I remember they played

1089
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: the Tembles that night. The Pacers played that night. I

1090
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: remember watching the game with my girl and again the

1091
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: Pacers that just traded three players and everybody was hurt.

1092
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: They went to Atlanta. I got me about like thirty five,

1093
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 4: and my girl.

1094
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 7: Don't know me a lot about basketball, but she look

1095
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 7: over at me and she's like, get traded here, you know.

1096
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: But everybody comes to my house after the Timberwolves game.

1097
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: I think it was like five six teammates, a couple

1098
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: of staff members. Uh just drank wine and just sat

1099
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: there and talked and like reflected on what was going on,

1100
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: and everybody gave me encouraging words.

1101
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: You know.

1102
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: Rico Hines, who I'm super close with, Uh, he came

1103
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: there for me, and it was big for him to

1104
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: be there for me because of how close we are.

1105
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: But I packed my after they left at like one

1106
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: thirty in the morning, packed my bags. Yeah, pack a

1107
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: suitcase to get on the plane in the morning. You

1108
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: land go get your MRIs and stuff. Practice the next

1109
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: day and I think we played the day after that,

1110
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: and again just so much anger that I'm having to

1111
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: like suppress and not show because at the end of

1112
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: the day, although Sad got rid of me and he's

1113
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: happy to have me, the fans are excited that I'm there.

1114
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 2: Fans excited that, you know, my new teammates are excited.

1115
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: Everybody's excited. It's a new start. And so and I'm

1116
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: a guy who I wear my emotions. I wear them

1117
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: like crazy. I'm always like I try to be. I

1118
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: try to smile as much and just have fun on

1119
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: the court as much as I can. But I get

1120
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: I'm human. I get mad sometimes and you'll know I'm mad.

1121
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: And I just remember being there having to hide. That

1122
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: was the craziest thing ever because I never had to

1123
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: do that before. People are asking me in media and

1124
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: things like that, and then you could see it. But

1125
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: I just remember having to like put a smile on

1126
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: my face and just be who I am to to

1127
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: you know, go the next step.

1128
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 6: How did it feel once you got like like you say,

1129
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 6: you was angry when you trade first happening, once you

1130
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 6: got settled, and then you got a chance to like

1131
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 6: that's behind you.

1132
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: Now I get to really focus on my situation.

1133
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 6: And then you see like how much the fans and

1134
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 6: everybody's behind.

1135
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: You, Like how good was that? How good of a

1136
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: feeling was that?

1137
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 6: Like to see like once you got got all that

1138
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 6: out of your mind, then you get to look at

1139
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 6: your situation and you looking like, damn, this is a

1140
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 6: pretty solid scenario. Like you just expressed how you got

1141
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 6: you the man you to go to and like you

1142
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 6: kind of depended on. So how was all of those

1143
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 6: things for you once you got through the emotions of

1144
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 6: being angry.

1145
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still surreal, man, Like again because I'm just

1146
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: the first I'm from my hometown.

1147
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: I'm just happy to be in the NBA, you know

1148
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: what I mean. I'm just happy to be here.

1149
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: Never yeah, exactly never, never, nevertheless doing what I'm doing.

1150
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: And it's it's so crazy to think about because when

1151
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: I at all Star, you know, that's when you get

1152
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: take a step back and really get to reflect.

1153
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 4: On what's going on.

1154
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: It's just like wow, you know what I mean, came

1155
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: believe that this is happening, but man, it just means

1156
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: the world to me. And the fans have been awesome

1157
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 2: to me. Our organization has been awesome to me. And

1158
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: I think I think it's not just me who feels

1159
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: the love, but it's you know, it's my family, My

1160
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: mom and Pop sick courtside every game.

1161
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 4: My girl says courtside every game. So you know, my.

1162
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: Pop, everybody want to take a picture and he gonna

1163
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 2: dap everybody in the stand.

1164
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: The most famous referee ever, Man.

1165
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 7: What he thinks.

1166
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 4: He thinks he's the celebrity. He thinks he's a celebrity.

1167
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: So we definitely feel the love.

1168
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: And it's just uh, now it's just you know about

1169
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: you know, trying to get wins and you know, trying

1170
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: to help get Indy back to what they were doing,

1171
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: you know previously, and how I was growing up and

1172
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully you know, being able to win a

1173
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: championship one day.

1174
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: So now you in Indiana and you have a coach

1175
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: like Rick Carlile as your coach, a legendary coach, a champion.

1176
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: How was that to just get this whole process and

1177
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: get there just like I'm going to be the leader.

1178
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy, and it's still

1179
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: crazy to think about that. I'm trusted to help lead organization,

1180
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But man, when I got there,

1181
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: I was just playing like I was just out there

1182
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 2: just trying to play and show who I am, because

1183
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: now I'm getting the opportunity to I'm a full time guy.

1184
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: There's no there's nobody else. Like if I mess up,

1185
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: I'm playing through mistakes more. I'm fortunate I'm being looked

1186
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 2: at to take game winning shots and like, I ain't

1187
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: never been looked at do that in my life, you

1188
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1189
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 4: I've never been asked to do that.

1190
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: It's a weird, weird thing because now like instead of

1191
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: in Sack, I remember things got bad, I just passed

1192
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: the fox. I go to the corner, you know what

1193
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: I mean. Now, it's like they doing that to me.

1194
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: They passed me the ball. Everybody getting out the way,

1195
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, I got to step up.

1196
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: And you know it, And you guys know that that

1197
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: the timeframe for people to get that, it can be

1198
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: really short. Like the NBA, there's new players coming in

1199
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: every year, different guys coming in. They give the keys

1200
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: to whoever they want to give him to exactly exactly.

1201
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: And I'm just trying to be who I am every

1202
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: day and coming in with Rick, it was funny.

1203
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 4: We played the Calves.

1204
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: I remember our first game back, our first my first

1205
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: game getting traded, and everybody knows Rondo and Carla I

1206
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: don't have the greatest relationship and uh and Carla has

1207
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: a reputation for he used to call a ton of plays.

1208
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: He doesn't call as many plays these days. But Rondo

1209
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 4: was like, man.

1210
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: Good luck, you know what I mean, because Ron, we're

1211
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: kind of saying with both point guards who love to

1212
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: pass and you know, bring the ball to the floor.

1213
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: And and it wasn't that bad when I got there,

1214
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: was because I didn't know the place, you know what

1215
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean, You're just out there hooping.

1216
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 4: So he couldn't call anything.

1217
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: And coming into this year, he pulled me aside and

1218
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: was like, hey, man, I don't want to call plays anymore.

1219
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 7: I want you to be ahead of it.

1220
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: And that meant the world to me because if I

1221
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: got trust from him, you know, like you said, the

1222
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: championship coach. He's been around great, great players, He's coached

1223
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: amazing dudes in this league. If he got trusted me,

1224
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 2: then how can I not trust myself?

1225
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: Like you say, the keys is in your hands now

1226
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: and now they come to you to hit game winners.

1227
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: When you hit that first game winner, how did you feel?

1228
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 7: Wow?

1229
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 2: What a feeling that was, because it was like we had,

1230
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: you know, playing Miami. We had played them before the

1231
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: game before I had one point. I didn't even score.

1232
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: The only way I got a point was because they

1233
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: got a tech and I moved Buddy out the way

1234
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: so I could just get on the state.

1235
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 7: I was like, just let me get on his court seat, bro.

1236
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: But coming to that game, I was just there was

1237
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: like a lot of motivation going on. Obviously there were

1238
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: some external things going on, people saying some things, but

1239
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I'm should come out here and

1240
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: try to you know, I watched I had watched that

1241
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: game film a million times trying to figure out what

1242
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: they did different and how they affected me different. And

1243
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: the bill thing about me being in the East is

1244
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: I get to play against Eric Spostra, I cant to

1245
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: play against Nick Nurse.

1246
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 4: I get to play against.

1247
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 2: I get to play against these great coaches who they

1248
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: turned it into a chess game, you know what I mean. Uh,

1249
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: Spoe was doing some things I had never seen before,

1250
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: and I was like, man, So I was just like,

1251
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna try the same thing. So coming in

1252
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: the game, I was just trying to think of different

1253
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 2: ways to attack.

1254
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 4: It and went the right way and then.

1255
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: They I was I got the ball at the end

1256
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: of the game, like, oh, I remember, this is how

1257
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: much confidence I.

1258
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 4: Had that day.

1259
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: They subbed me out up three, they send me out

1260
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 2: for defense. They hit the three and I turned around

1261
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: look at Pargo on the bench.

1262
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 4: I was like, game over. You know what I mean,

1263
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 4: That's just how much confidence I had at the time.

1264
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: And uh, that's that's crazy, because if you tell me

1265
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: that a couple of years ago, I'd be like, no way.

1266
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 4: I would have ever said that.

1267
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just just a reflection of the work.

1268
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 4: For sure.

1269
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 5: Where was you at when you heard the shoes making

1270
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 5: the off?

1271
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 7: I was making my comeback.

1272
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: I was playing my first game back, getting ready to

1273
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: run out for warm ups against the Lakers.

1274
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and how did you feel like to make the

1275
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: all start?

1276
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, what's weird is like I get we

1277
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: get asked that question, and I think everybody expects me

1278
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 2: to be like.

1279
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 7: Man, I was running around the house, I was doing this,

1280
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 7: I was doing that.

1281
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: But like going into the day, I was like, man,

1282
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: if I don't make this game, I'm gonna be so mad.

1283
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: Like I'm thinking there's a better chance that I make

1284
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: the game than I don't. And I think that's just

1285
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: the confidence I have because there's very well good chance

1286
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: that I could have not made the game.

1287
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 7: But in my head, I'm like, I gotta make this game.

1288
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: So what he told me when when our GF R

1289
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: Kevin pitcherck Kaven told me before he ran out, it

1290
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: was like, appreciate you, KP.

1291
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 4: All right, let's go next game, Let's let's play.

1292
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 7: It wasn't like a it didn't really hit me.

1293
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1294
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't like and being able to embrace from my family.

1295
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: My my agent was there, my dad was there, my mom,

1296
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: my girl, all them people, Uh, being able to see

1297
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: them that that was like the celebration. But on the

1298
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: inside more it was like running around like going crazy.

1299
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 4: But I'm outside, I was just you know, trying to

1300
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 4: not show it.

1301
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: So how was the whole weekend for you and your family. Man,

1302
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: it was they rolled the red carpet out for you.

1303
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy. Didn't didn't like Everybody's like, man,

1304
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: you're going to be so busy.

1305
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 4: And I was like.

1306
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 6: At a young boy out floorish him out in the

1307
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 6: clubs anyway, don't Yeah I saw him out floorish and.

1308
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 4: You see me.

1309
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, just trying to balance all the schedule and

1310
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: figure out what appearances.

1311
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 4: I can't do.

1312
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: What I can't do go to the Rising Stars game,

1313
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: so I could, you know, see our rookies go. I

1314
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: got three point contests on Saturday. I really want to win,

1315
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: so I'm trying to put an extra three point practice.

1316
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 4: I'm doing all these different things.

1317
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I practiced on Friday, I practiced on Thursday.

1318
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: In uh in India, I practice Friday and then the

1319
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: dude was begging me. He's like, please come back Saturday.

1320
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: If you come back Saturday, I promise you won't regret.

1321
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: Don't practice what you mean?

1322
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 7: I hit thirty one in the first round and you

1323
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 7: did what? Then? I choked?

1324
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's what the crazy

1325
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 3: part about that? Though?

1326
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,479
Speaker 2: Is it going when Dame hit twenty six. I didn't

1327
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: have one practice round under twenty five, not one even

1328
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: walking in the gym, not shooting a shot, like, let's.

1329
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 3: Just the thing is just you you empty the clip, bro.

1330
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 7: And when I looked and saw twenty five, I was

1331
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 7: like it's over, Like no way, I'm losing.

1332
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 4: And I remember missing.

1333
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 2: I missed the first two racks, like almost every shot,

1334
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, I looked over and Dame

1335
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: was already dapping everybody.

1336
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 3: I was sick. I was sick.

1337
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1338
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 3: Hey tell me this. I saw.

1339
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 6: This is a little funny thing I saw. I saw

1340
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 6: that after you, after you made the game, you changed

1341
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 6: your your your profile fit to one Wally Zurbia. I

1342
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 6: just need to know because we played as Wally, but

1343
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 6: I never understood where he came from when when everything.

1344
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: Happened, Like do you know Wally?

1345
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 6: Did you do something to him previously for him to

1346
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 6: be like the wanna be All Star and all of that,

1347
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 6: Like where were you how did like when you found

1348
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 6: out about that, did you know who he was and

1349
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 6: what was going on?

1350
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 7: Uh?

1351
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: No, No, I had no idea. We had played the

1352
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: Knicks and I missed a game winner. I missed a

1353
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: shot to take the lead from three step back, missed it.

1354
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: Then we they missed a free throw. I grabbed the

1355
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: rebound shot a half court shot.

1356
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 4: Missed it. We lost.

1357
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1358
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 7: And getting in the locker room, my phone was blowing up,

1359
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 7: blowing up.

1360
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, what's going on?

1361
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 7: And everybody's like, why did he talk about this guy?

1362
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 7: Talk about him like this? I'm like, well, the Zerby

1363
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 7: play in the league, like in the early two times,

1364
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 7: like I think I know who he is, like and uh.

1365
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 4: And then there was like rumors.

1366
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: That I like declined to interview with him or something,

1367
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: and that's not I don't even is he the.

1368
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 5: Commentator for the place.

1369
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 6: No, No, he does studio pre pre halftimes.

1370
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 2: I think he was just excited, you know, he was

1371
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: just amped up about the Knicks win. And he was

1372
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: and I think, you know, just being a nick he

1373
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: you know, wanted Julius and Jalen to both make the

1374
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 2: game over.

1375
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 4: Tyrese hater. I don't know about the Pacers.

1376
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 6: I didn't nothing like it was it was funny. Yeah,

1377
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 6: he was like, yeah, I wanna be all start for bro.

1378
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 6: This is like earlier in the season. So it was

1379
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 6: like literally when they announced he was an All Star.

1380
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 6: The clip went viral all over again.

1381
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it was like you know how it is,

1382
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 7: bro you know, and I didn't want to. I couldn't

1383
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 7: say anything. I'm gonna say we lost.

1384
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: I'm not the type we gotta go on social media

1385
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: and talk crazy after lose or nothing like that.

1386
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 7: So I say nothing.

1387
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 5: I let it go.

1388
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: I had a little interview with Taylor Rooks and she

1389
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: asked me about it. But then we played the Celtics

1390
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: in the.

1391
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 4: Heat and I was like, yo, I gotta go crazy

1392
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 4: right now.

1393
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 7: You know.

1394
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: Truthfully, he probably helped my All Star candidacy more than

1395
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: anything because now the attention was on befrom there and

1396
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: so shout to Wally appreciate them.

1397
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 5: So that what made you change your profile?

1398
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1399
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was his picture.

1400
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 5: His profile, so they know who we who we is?

1401
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 5: Let them know. So how was the game for you?

1402
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: You know, because, uh, just a couple of years ago

1403
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: you was watching a lot of these guys in the

1404
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: All Star Game back in our state, and now you're

1405
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: part of it. So to you know, get your name

1406
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: announced and be in the locker room with these guys

1407
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: in the.

1408
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 5: Locker room, you know, yeah, see.

1409
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: Your jersey with your family name on the back of Like,

1410
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: how was that experience?

1411
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 5: Actual game?

1412
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 2: It's crazy, bro, Like just being in the locker room

1413
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 2: with the guys is crazy. And you know, when you're

1414
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: up and coming the league, might you have a conversation

1415
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: with guys during the game after the game, short little conversation,

1416
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: But being in the locker room with guys is a

1417
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: completely different situation because you're sitting there, you talking about

1418
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: what's going on the season, talking about other things that

1419
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: aren't involved in basketball, and getting no dudes for real.

1420
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 2: And I thought that was really cool, just getting to

1421
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: be around guys that I've watched, you know, my whole life.

1422
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm from Wisconsin, so like Giannis, you know what

1423
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 2: I mean, Like I've seen the development, like we had

1424
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 2: to watch the Bucks and all these different guys. Like

1425
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: getting to be around like Kyrie and Bron, Like I

1426
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: felt like I was, like I was a bron fan

1427
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: my whole life. I had a Lebron fat head of

1428
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: Tom Hawking where I slept, you know growing up, right,

1429
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: it's so much and so like Bron picked me in

1430
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: the draft and then like my lockers right next to

1431
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: Kyrie and like I remember the twenty sixteen finals. I'm like,

1432
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: I remember Kyrie his shot, Like I'm standing up like

1433
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: in our living room, like looking at the TV, like

1434
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 2: I'm in the game, like I'm you know what I mean.

1435
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 4: Like I felt like I was on the team.

1436
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 5: Damn, you know, like I want to crazy.

1437
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1438
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1439
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: So like to be around those guys and you know,

1440
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 2: just be around all the different dudes and get to

1441
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: meet them and spend time with them was really cool

1442
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: and that that was more that meant more to me

1443
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: than than the game itself. Just beginning to be around

1444
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 2: the guys and having a feel like I'm one of them,

1445
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: you know, I thought that was really cool. As far

1446
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: as the game goes, I know there's a lot of

1447
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, the energy of the game and

1448
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: people mad that dudes wasn't playing for real. I came

1449
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: off the bench, So I'm just reading the energy of

1450
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:13,959
Speaker 2: the game.

1451
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 6: The first time, the first time and responsibility.

1452
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 7: If they would have sub yet and we was playing

1453
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 7: for real, I would have tried to play for real.

1454
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 6: You ain't trying to mess up the vibe you just

1455
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 6: got here. I'm just this is what we're doing, guys,

1456
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 6: what we're doing you're not wanted.

1457
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: The responsible only.

1458
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 7: Played fourteen minutes anyway, so I can only control so

1459
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 7: much time.

1460
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: Right, So all the guys in the league, how did

1461
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: you and Chris Paul begin y'all relationship?

1462
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? So, uh with CP.

1463
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 7: I think when I first came in. Funny story about

1464
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 7: CP man when I first got to the league, second or.

1465
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 4: Third game my NBA career.

1466
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: Now, I grew up living in the Midwest, but you know,

1467
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: the West Coast games on at night, so I'm staying

1468
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: up to watch CP. Like before the Warriors took off,

1469
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: it was a lob city, you know, So I'm staying

1470
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: up to watch CP. He does so like second, third place,

1471
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: CP shoots a jumper mid range and somebody on the benches. Hell, no,

1472
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: I'm standing up though, because I'm just like, I'm still

1473
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: in awe that.

1474
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 4: I'm he thought it was me. He thought it was me,

1475
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 4: And so for the rest of the game, him and.

1476
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: Book going at me, going at me, and I ain't

1477
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: about to say like it wasn't me.

1478
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 4: You know what, I got to compete to, you know.

1479
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 7: So I'm just sitting there like, okay, here we go.

1480
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: And they talked to me and CEP like did you nice,

1481
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, you know what I.

1482
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 7: Mean, Like this is this is one of my guys,

1483
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 7: you know, like who I looked up to, and then

1484
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 7: he ended up here.

1485
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: I told that story in an interview and he heard

1486
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: about it, and you know, we talked from there. He

1487
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 2: thought it was funny. So it was just able to

1488
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: grow relationship from there. And I think he sees me

1489
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 2: as a point guard, you know, as a young PG

1490
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: in the league who has a you know, a bright future.

1491
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 2: And you know, I've just been able to pick his

1492
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 2: brain so many different times. And I remember I didn't

1493
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: play against Phoenix last year in Sack and they played

1494
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: really well against us, but they were running some coverage

1495
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: that some coverage on our delay action that I'd never

1496
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: seen before. They were top locking everything, and I was like,

1497
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: what do you do? And I pulled him aside, like

1498
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: you'll see, how would you attack it? You know, And

1499
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: he's being honest with me telling me what he would do.

1500
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: That just means the world, because I think it's that's

1501
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: the bit, that's the way our game is going to progress.

1502
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: It's just you know, the guys who have been here

1503
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: before sharing their knowledge and that's the beautiful part about it,

1504
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: and you know, hopefully I'm able to you know, keep

1505
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: growing our relationship with CP, and my goal is to

1506
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: you know, be able to do you know, the CP

1507
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: camp this year. I've always wanted to go, never was

1508
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: able to go when I was growing up, So hopefully

1509
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: be there and help share knowledge and hopefully it's something

1510
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: that I can, you know, help continue, you know, as

1511
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: he you know, continues on his career, you know, when

1512
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: when he decides to retire, and hopefully you know, the

1513
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: CP camp or what he does with all the young

1514
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: point guards in the country. I think that's fire. So

1515
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: hopefully it's something I'll be able to help with.

1516
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: We're a big w NBA fans, Where's you a big

1517
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: w NBA.

1518
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 5: Urged you a ace? So what about the w n

1519
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 5: B A that you love about?

1520
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I've always looked so when I was born,

1521
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: my dad coached a girls basketball team, like a middles

1522
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: Co girls basket So I've always been around girls basketball

1523
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: my whole life, and I just have always appreciated, uh,

1524
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: they there's not a lot in women in women's basketball,

1525
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 2: there's not like out athleting.

1526
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 7: People as much as it is in our game.

1527
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, like.

1528
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: It's it's a lot. It's a lot more skill based

1529
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: to me. And you know, the best players are, you know,

1530
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: the most skilled usually And I just appreciate that about

1531
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: the game and us being allies as much as we

1532
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: can to the women's game is important to help it

1533
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: progress because of all the people in the world who

1534
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: can't make a left hand layup, who have something to

1535
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: say about the women's game, you know, it's just terrible

1536
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: because they don't understand, you know, what these women go

1537
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: through and the skilled and the work that they have

1538
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: to put in to be where they are. So, uh,

1539
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: this is always something I've always appreciated.

1540
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: So are you going to turn to a Fever fan

1541
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: now that that you and and.

1542
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, for sure I have to.

1543
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm about to get to meet on you.

1544
01:00:59,120 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 7: Come.

1545
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 3: Come, what are you doing now? We got the number?

1546
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 7: We got pick this here, leave in Boston. It's gonna

1547
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 7: be It's gonna be cool. You know, they got they

1548
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 7: got a bright future over there.

1549
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: Cool start bench cut Who gotta start? When you got

1550
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: a bench? When you got cute and you're gonna get

1551
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: in trouble?

1552
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 5: Uh? Steph, Dame Kyrie, who do you start?

1553
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: Who?

1554
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 5: Have to be cut.

1555
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: Go ahead, I don't know what I'm saying. That's your show, Steph.

1556
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 3: David Kyrie cold for that?

1557
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 4: That is just that's ridiculous.

1558
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: Well you got trade when we're gonna cut him too good?

1559
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 3: This is terrible bench trade boy, all right.

1560
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 6: You know he got to play all of these guys, right, Yeah,

1561
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 6: that's what making coldness.

1562
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 7: When Man, I'm probably gonna.

1563
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna start Kyrie, uh, just because you know

1564
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 2: that was just a guy for me growing up. I

1565
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: got uh, they will have a relationship with him today

1566
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: and so uh, he's the toughest one.

1567
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 4: I want to cover in the league.

1568
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 7: Comes to trade his light skin, I'm a bench. I'm

1569
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 7: a bench of Steph.

1570
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 4: Wow, that's crazy.

1571
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 6: If you walk out of here, you're getting a message

1572
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 6: from the Light Skin Association.

1573
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 7: That's a fact. Next time if they gonna stay forty

1574
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 7: of the best stuff.

1575
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 4: And then I'm a trade dame because he beat me

1576
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 4: in three point contests.

1577
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 6: Dang he won't that that's nice looking truth, man, I'm

1578
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 6: gonna keep it real. We got that big like that

1579
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 6: new that news joint look real nice and neat. I

1580
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 6: know I want to ask like you you know y'all

1581
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 6: getting a little bit more changed, and we was getting

1582
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 6: it on that rookie deal. Like and you know, this

1583
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 6: ain't about like what you about Mama or daddy. Like

1584
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 6: when you got that bag? What did what did Tyree's

1585
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 6: do for Tyree's You? It might be looked at as

1586
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 6: a little foolish or whatever, but like you, at the moment,

1587
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 6: it was all that big perch is what you drop

1588
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 6: a bag on.

1589
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 4: My first Okay, so.

1590
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 7: We I don't really spend money a ton.

1591
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 4: I know I do.

1592
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 8: My mama, I'm gonna go crazy conversation mama, right, he said,

1593
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 8: said what I'm gonna go crazy once you hear that.

1594
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 4: But my rookie year, I.

1595
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: Didn't have a I had a car deal with a company,

1596
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: so I didn't have to buy a car.

1597
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 7: You know, you go had my.

1598
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: My rental house. I rented house I had. I had

1599
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: a car deal, so I didn't really have to buy anything.

1600
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: I was buying clothes and shoes and stuff, shoes that

1601
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: I always wanted growing up.

1602
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 7: But my first big purchase I.

1603
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 4: Bought a Tesla. I bought a Tesla.

1604
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: At the end of my rookie year, I was like

1605
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: I had a jeep with the car deal and I

1606
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: was living in Cali.

1607
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 4: Everybody drive a Tesla.

1608
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this is the one. This is my

1609
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: one contribution to the environment.

1610
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: Tesla.

1611
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 5: So I was the test thinking about giving me one.

1612
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 7: You said, well, how is it?

1613
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1614
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 4: I love it. I love it in Indy. Not as practical.

1615
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 4: I should probably get.

1616
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 3: Rid of it.

1617
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 5: Loaded down here they riding the.

1618
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's beautiful.

1619
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. And I spent my summers in La. So

1620
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: everybody drives testa out there. It's easy.

1621
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 4: I've got no gas stations charge my car.

1622
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 6: So you and then with your kindred spears the he

1623
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 6: came to Detroit and god damn tests.

1624
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 3: He can't driveing. No testing in a party on.

1625
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: India now, So I drive a Range in the winter

1626
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: and my Tesla just sits in the garage.

1627
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: When we came up, we used to be big w

1628
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: w w F back then.

1629
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 5: W w E fan. We heard you big wrestling fan.

1630
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you still have the time, because once we

1631
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: got in the league, we didn't really have the time

1632
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: and moving around. But when we was, you know, and

1633
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: he was in college, I was in high school.

1634
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 5: Stuff like that.

1635
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: It's like we're catching every Monday night raw and all

1636
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: that stuff. But since you've been in the league, had

1637
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: you been able to keep up with Yeah, for sure,

1638
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: there's a storyline.

1639
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1640
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 4: Social media helps social media everything.

1641
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: It helps me everything, because I can't watch the show's live,

1642
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: you know, and uh, it's just too much going on.

1643
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,439
Speaker 2: But I actually after my rookie year, after my rookie

1644
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: after Summer League, they were doing Summer Slam at Allegiance

1645
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: Stadium in the in the Raiders Stadium, and I hit

1646
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 2: my people, I'm like, I gotta go, I gotta go.

1647
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to go to a like a big event.

1648
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: I went, you know, when they come to Wisconsin, I

1649
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 2: go to our SmackDown or whatever. But I was like,

1650
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: I gotta go, And so they got me two tickets

1651
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 2: right behind the announcer's table and John Ceno was wrestling.

1652
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 4: That's like all time favorite wrestling.

1653
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: It's yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, come on, And so I

1654
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 2: took my pop come on, yeah exactly.

1655
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 3: No no disrespect. My see's cool, but like man, yeah

1656
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 3: de Generation next in n w O. That's fair the

1657
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 3: best I get it. Well, the Rocket is the all time.

1658
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get to d But I went

1659
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 2: to Summer ste I sat behind the announcers table. Brought

1660
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: my dad because my dad used to bring them all

1661
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: events growing up. And that was like all the moment

1662
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: of my life that is that is up there, like that.

1663
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 7: Is like up there, like I need to take the

1664
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 7: chair and off chair.

1665
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 4: Had a great time.

1666
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,919
Speaker 2: But smack Down was in Indye a couple of months ago,

1667
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: and I went and they got me backstage.

1668
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 4: I got to meet Triple eighth to the back.

1669
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 2: And that was that was like man and again that's

1670
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: another moment that's just up there, like with everything this story.

1671
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 5: I went to Monday Night Raw in Cleveland. This crab.

1672
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 5: I went to Monday Night Raw in Cleveland.

1673
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: You know how you go to Cleveland State and you

1674
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: gotta go down in Toronto and all that stuff. So

1675
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: we went down in the tunnel w and I got

1676
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: my old lady with me, and I got my homeboy

1677
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: him and his old lady. So when we walked through

1678
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: the door, lady, when we walked through the door, like

1679
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: you know how you walk through the little security little

1680
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: door and all we walked through the door, stone colders

1681
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 1: right there he's standing there. He got like a six

1682
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: pack of beard and they got the cameras coming coming

1683
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: like straight.

1684
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 5: Kind of like about to do a scene.

1685
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 7: Bro.

1686
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: My whole mood change because I thought he was finna

1687
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: play with me. So my whole mood change. So when

1688
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: he asked offered me a beer, I was like.

1689
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 6: Nah, man, he was a stone coat stun boy. You

1690
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 6: would guess the stunner.

1691
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 3: He was gonna have to.

1692
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 5: Because I weren't going on no TV bro.

1693
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: It's just like my whole mood change because it was like, man,

1694
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't play with TV's and cameras and stuff.

1695
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 5: You can't with me, and.

1696
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 6: Then got in your face and started the old hell

1697
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 6: yeah and.

1698
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 5: Hey that moved. My mood changed, and I was like, nah,

1699
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1700
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: Be after I retire, I gotta do something. I gotta

1701
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: like either take a move or hit a move.

1702
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 7: I have to.

1703
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 4: I have to.

1704
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 6: He's just like the time I got to go. When

1705
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 6: I played for Phoenix. We went they had a joint.

1706
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 6: I don't remember what it was, SmackDown or whatever. We

1707
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 6: went to that joint and we was like I was

1708
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 6: seeing all the dudes, man, they working on what they

1709
01:07:59,240 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 6: about to do?

1710
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 3: I was like, what's going on? He pressed it?

1711
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 4: Oh, ship like okay, that's the crazy part.

1712
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: Tighten up, Yeah, Stone Cocaine boy, I would have paid Ooh.

1713
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to whoop my ass.

1714
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 3: Would have done the best ship ever motel.

1715
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 5: Wh ain't going, bro, You're gonna have to whoop me

1716
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 5: right there?

1717
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 3: You got.

1718
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 5: It just caught me off.

1719
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm seeing the cameras rushed up and I'm like, man,

1720
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: I know this man.

1721
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 5: In front of my old lady town Like, nah, I ain't.

1722
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 6: Going all right man, that's been real man. We enjoy

1723
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 6: sitting down chopping it up with a young fella. Man.

1724
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 3: We appreciate you coming to Holland at us bro.

1725
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 6: Tyree's Holly burning everybody. I want to thank you'll for

1726
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 6: your continued support of the Knuckleheads Podcast. Be sure to

1727
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,960
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1728
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,960
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1730
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,880
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1731
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,800
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1732
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:12,000
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1733
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1734
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