1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Ron and an Ian. There's a distinctive sound and engine 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: makes when you go to start it that you can 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: tell it's healthy. It has that that rooter do doo 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: doo doo, that that sound of compression to it. The 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Listen. I've listened to your show over the 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: years and I've learned quite a bit that you really 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: keep me updated. Thank you for what's happening in the 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: automotive heel. Welcome to the radio home of Ron and 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Anian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage to orders are open. 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: But I am here to take your call at eight 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: five five five six and now running. I wanted to 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: talk to you about engines as we start off the 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: hour today. UM. Interesting scenario this week at the shop, 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: someone came in and asked about installing an oil pump 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: in his late model Camaro and I said, gee, we 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: don't do that. UM. And part of the conversation was 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm jumping ahead because part of the conversation was he 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: requested an oil pump. My question was why because I 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: lost oil pressure. I said, you know, there's a potential. 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: Do you need an engine? We had that whole conversation, 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: of which he knew all the answers and didn't want 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: to do that. Um. And you know, listen or orto 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: repairs like picking a doctor. You're you're picking me, I'm 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: picking you. I politely the kline. Um. Of course I 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: got a bad right up on yelp. That's a whole 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: another story. Um. So if you want to go see 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: read something funny, go read yelp and see what the 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: guy says about me. It's kind of interesting and sort 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: of a chuckle. Um. But I wondered to myself, Am 33 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: I am I turning away something? Maybe I should be 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: doing engine work, and maybe I shouldn't be turning it 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: down per se uh in that sense of the word. 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: But you know, in my mind, engine work has been 37 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: a dead item for the better part of ten or 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: twelve years. Nobody does individual component repair anymore, at least 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: not in my reality in the world that I live in. 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: And I called a couple of shops that we're doing 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: some diagnostic work for, and I asked them, you know 42 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: when you're doing engine work. What are you doing? Well, 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: we swap Paul engines, you know, would you do an 44 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: oil pump? Well, how do you know what got hurt? 45 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: And I said, well, that's my thinking exactly. I called 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: some of the dealer guys that I talked to on 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: a regular basis and asked them, you know, are you 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: doing engine work? You know, no, not really, We're doing 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, complete component replacement. The factory doesn't want us 50 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: doing individual engine tear down. I think about the only 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: things that get replaced on the engines today are timing 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: chain assemblies, valve actuator, valve timing components, things like that. 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: But the days of head gaskets and and cylinder head 54 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: replacement and taking engines down to bear cranks fs and 55 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: connecting rods and pistons and rings and such, I think 56 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: that's gone a long time from the surveys and the 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: answers that I received this week. And I'm curious what 58 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: you're experiencing. I'm wondering if other parts of the country, 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, different economic conditions, different culture of cars, different 60 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: climate of cars. Are we doing engine work or is 61 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: engine work thriving in other places? Because I can tell 62 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: you in North Jersey. It doesn't seem to exist individual 63 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: tear down, you know, componentry, maybe specific things. Maybe in 64 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: some cases oil pumps get replaced for some real obvious defects. 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: But I just just an opening comment. So if you've 66 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: got a thought, if you've had an experience, or maybe 67 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: tell me think back, when was the last time you 68 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: had an engine repaired, not a complete engine replaced, but 69 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: a singular engine component repaired? What was that? I'm taking 70 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: a survey. I'm asking you a question, you know, send 71 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: me your answers. Either go up on the Car Doctor 72 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: Facebook page. We can start a threat up there. Someone 73 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: can start a threat, maybe Tom will get something going, 74 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: or you can send me an email Ron at Car 75 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: Doctor show dot com. I'd love to hear from you 76 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: and hear what's going on. We have a we have 77 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: a lot going on this week. I know we always 78 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: have a lot. We have a lot going on this week. 79 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Down around the bottom of the hour, we're gonna be 80 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: joined by a representative Launch Diagnostics talking about a DOS 81 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: Advanced Driver Assist Systems and you know what we're gonna 82 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: do to calibrate, repair, cope with what a DOS is 83 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: a little bit of a dos one oh one, and 84 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: then coming up at the top of the second hour 85 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: today I call him fireman Tim. We're gonna talk about 86 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: electric cars and what happens when an electric car catches 87 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: fire out on the roads and how that affects you, 88 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: the motorists, And I think the answer is gonna be shocking. 89 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: I know, look at Tom, I made a pun electric 90 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: car shocking. You got that. I'm so witty Sometimes I'm 91 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: not though that makes me a half wit. Um. And 92 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: do you forget I have control over your microphones. I 93 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: understand that part, Um, but it's shocking what what happens 94 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: when an electric car catches fire out on the highway 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: and what triggered this was? I want to give credit 96 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: where credit is due. Research. Kathy her Son is a 97 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: state trooper somewhere, and he pointed out that that, you know, 98 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: the state police now are required to perform and do 99 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: exactly what we're going to discuss at the top of 100 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: the hour. So it's it's gonna be interesting right now. Though, 101 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: Let's do what the car doctor loves to do best. 102 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: Let's kick the garage doors open, Tom and Connecticut oh 103 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: four g Grand Cherokee, and the left turn signal that 104 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 1: doesn't work, Tom, if you would stop making left turns, 105 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: you'd be okay. Yeah, I'm just gonna go around in 106 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: the right hand, uh to every place they gotta go. Yeah, 107 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: this is actually gonna be my second time on the show. 108 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: And they did actually replace the flasher, the flasher unit 109 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: itself inside the steering reel and traced it down. But 110 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I was wondering if there's anything else that the garage 111 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: needs to look at. I'm gonna be going in on Monday. Yeah, no, no, no, no, 112 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: wait a minute. The switches in the steering wheel. There 113 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: there is a there is a flasher inside the junction 114 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: lock down at the base of the column to the left. Okay, 115 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: all right, And and that flasher is prone to failure. 116 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: There are some specific tests if you pull that out. 117 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: It's a it's a three four pin terminal, and there 118 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: are some specific tests checking force signal and voltage. And 119 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: you want to if you replace that flasher, you want 120 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: to use either Chrysler or a real good OI equivalent, 121 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: because that's one of those things they've got. It's an 122 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: electronic device that no one, no one has had a 123 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: great deal of luck reproducing, So that flasher can be 124 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: you've you've got the classic scenario where the left the 125 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: left turn signal is flashing fast. Um, it's not flashing 126 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: at all. Okay, does the light light up? Do you 127 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: see illumination on the dash? Oh? Yeah, if I put 128 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: the emergency on it, it comes on and all that 129 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: sort of jazz, and it will work intermittently, which is 130 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: kind of driving nuts and little dangerous. I think, yeah, sure, um, 131 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: but by all means, have them look at the flash 132 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: or you know, let me do this for you. If 133 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: they need some diagnostics, if they need a diagnostic routine, 134 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: send me an email. Run a car doctor show dot com. 135 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: I'll be glad to send you a pdf. Uh talking 136 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: about there's there's a step by step process for doping 137 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: that out and um uh you know we can kind 138 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: of go through that. So all right, sir, thank you 139 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: very much. You're very welcome, good luck, Let us know 140 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: what happens. Take take good care to You're welcome, take 141 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: good care. Let's uh, let's go to let's go to 142 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: Matthew in Michigan, Tom, can we do that? Can we 143 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: go to Matthew in Michigan and see what's going on 144 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: with this ninety on Nissan Center Matthew, you around with 145 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: the car doctor. How can I help? Fine? I have 146 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: an on center four cylinder. I put a new radiator, 147 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: new hoses, I put a new water pump on it, 148 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: and a new thermostat. That water pumps the most miserable 149 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: job I've ever done on a car. But then when, 150 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: oh yeah, when fans come on? So everybody said, well, 151 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: you need a temperature sensor, so I put a new 152 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: one in. The Fans still come on. So I took 153 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: the thirty am fuse relays out, and the fans still 154 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: come on. Did you have the problem prior to the repair. No? Never. 155 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Did you think the fans ever come on on this car, 156 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: even the summer if it was five or nineties. Did 157 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: you did you touch the cooling fans, take the radiator out, 158 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 1: any any fan work at all? Well, yeah, I took 159 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: the I took the fans out to get the radiator out. 160 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: You did a radiator. I lost track of this somewhere here. 161 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: Go back over this again for me, Matthew. I'm sorry. 162 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: I put a new radiator in it, put all new hoses, 163 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: heater hoses and everything, a new water pump and a 164 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: new thermostat, and I put new belts on it. Okay, 165 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: and and a water pump. You said, yeah, And ever 166 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: since you put it back together, you've got the fans 167 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: running continuously as soon as you turn the key on. No, 168 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: I you drive it for a while so it warms 169 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: up a little bit, then the fans come on. Okay. 170 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: What makes you think it's not overheating? Well, because of 171 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: the temperature gauge and feeling of the radiator hoses and 172 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: everything like that. Okay, have you plugged a scan tool 173 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: in to look at cooling temperature? Do you have that ability? No? 174 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, right, called ucas, I know your technical Yeah. Well, 175 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking is are we trying to diagnose a 176 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: condition that the car is responding to? That's correct. I'd 177 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: love to see what temperature the fans come on at, 178 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: and I'd love to see what temperature the car thinks 179 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: it's running at. And I don't want to trust the gauge. 180 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: I've seen cases where gauges are are very inaccurate in 181 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: situations like this, and I really would like to see 182 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: what is the cool attempt censor seeing that's making a 183 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: come on? Do we have a blockage somewhere that is 184 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: centralizing heat around a sensor, causing an overreaction by the fans, 185 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: but not necessarily for the rest of the vehicle. Well, interesting, 186 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: should you see the heat or whole is our half 187 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: inch and five eighths So I couldn't have mixed them up. 188 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: There's about three other hoses and it's difficult and underneath there, 189 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: And did I put a hose on the intake manifold 190 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: on the wrong part. I don't think so. I don't 191 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: think that's possible. But I just listened to what you said, 192 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: and I thought the same thing. As the water is 193 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: circulating the wrong way or something, right, do we have 194 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: it going the wrong way? So that brings me back 195 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: to I'd like to know what the temperature is, and 196 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to know is it's slowly going up the temperature? Well, 197 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: not by normal, not by gauge. The computer doesn't work 198 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: by gauge. The computer works by a sensor. So what 199 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: is the cooling sensor telling the computer that it needs 200 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: to turn the fans on. If the sensor is showing 201 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: two thirty five degrees but the gauge is showing normal, 202 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: then the sensor is either reading wrong, which, boy, that 203 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: would be a reach because you know they ever since syndrome. 204 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: I would you usually attribute in cases like this, it 205 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: becomes human error, not picking on your Matthew. I give 206 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: you credit for working on you know. UM, I would 207 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: tell you to go through hose routing. Is there a 208 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: way to possibly look up hose routing? Um, I'm trying 209 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: to think where you might be able to find pictures 210 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: of how the hoses went. I got a picture from 211 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: the Nissan dealer over in uh Over in Saginaw, and 212 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of hard to write, but I I 213 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: just think they're on right. But I'm listening to you. 214 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: I think you're real technical, and uh this thing is 215 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: And how could the fans come on when I take 216 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: the the fan relays or fuses out? Well, that's a 217 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: fair question. I'll tell you what. Matthew, Sit tight. Let 218 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: me pull over and take a pause. I don't want 219 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: to I don't want to run out of this question. 220 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: Let me let me take a pause. When I come back, 221 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: we'll finish this up. I'm running any of the car doctor. 222 00:11:51,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. For the best in 223 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: car advice, give Ron a call eight five five five 224 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: zero zero zero. Now back to Matthew, you're still there. Yeah, 225 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: So two things come to mind sitting here thinking about it. One, 226 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: I'd like to know what engine temperature is. What is 227 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: the PCM? Seeing temperature was all right? Cooling fans on 228 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: that car, I sat and recalled come around two between 229 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: two hundred and two hundred and five degrees if the 230 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: engines running. If the fans come on at two oh five, 231 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: then that's right, that's where they're supposed to come on. 232 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: The question then becomes do we possibly have a shorten 233 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: the wiring? And I'm just running through all the possibilities. 234 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: Do we have a problem with a shorted power or 235 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: a shorted ground connection? Energizing the fans via the PCM 236 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: pulling the relay that ear car may put that vehicle 237 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: into failsafe mode where the fans turn on automatically. So 238 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: don't use that as a diagnostic tool. That's the wrong 239 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: direct and to go. So get that. Get that out 240 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: of your head. So what engine temperature? The last thing 241 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: I want you to verify. I don't think you've got 242 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: the hoses on wrong. I think you'd have to work 243 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: it all right. And talking to you, I think you're 244 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: technically competent just from your conversation we're having. I want 245 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: you to make sure you've got the sirup belt on 246 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: the right side of the water pump? Are you? Did you? 247 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: Because I think it's I think it's that generation it 248 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: started in went up to a two thousand two two 249 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: centers and ultimates. I think you can put the belt 250 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: on the wrong side of the pump tension it. It 251 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: looks right, but you're actually spinning the water pump backwards. 252 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I think you did. I bet you, 253 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: I bet you. Okay, um, take a look at that. 254 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: All right, kiddo, Thank you so much. You're very welcome. 255 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: Call me back, let me know what happens. But I 256 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: bet you that's it. I'm curious. We'll see in Matthew, 257 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: let's get over to in Virginia. Eleven tourists back up 258 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: cameras upside down. Well, as long as you uh, as 259 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: long as you know where you're going upside down backwards, 260 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Tell me the story here, Greg, Well, uh, 261 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: I got I purchased four tourists from the neighbor down 262 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: the street, and then I've got I love that card. 263 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: It's really comfortable and all that stuff. But the camera 264 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: it's upside down, and when you look at the picture, 265 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: and then about every twenty times that I back up, 266 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: it'll go right side up again and it will be fine, 267 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: and then the very next time I use it, it 268 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: flips upside down again. All right, it's it's either out 269 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: of calibration. There is a calibration procedure that has to 270 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: be done by scan tool. That's that's probably not it, okay, 271 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: but that would be the first step. And the reason 272 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: I say that is because you just can't go and 273 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: put a camera in one of those without calibrating it. 274 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: I've seen people do it without calibration, but then they 275 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: end up with this problem and some other things. So 276 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: you want to make sure you calibrate it, all right. Uh, 277 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: If you have the ability to calibrate it and calibration 278 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:16,239 Speaker 1: doesn't work, then it likely needs a camera replacement. Camera replacement. 279 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: So you know, I've had people tell me that it's 280 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: a bad ground. I've had people tell me turn the 281 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: camera upside down and if the camera, if the camera, 282 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: if the camera powers up, the camera powers up. What 283 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: happens is it's something inside the camera that's been a 284 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: common failure. The other the other thing you can consider 285 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: is because I think you're going to find that the 286 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: Ford camera is probably six. Don't faint. Um, you know 287 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: the price of technology, there are alternatives out there. I 288 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: am almost certain Dormant Products makes a replacement review camera 289 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: for that vehicle because I believe and I believe they 290 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: got into the market and I think they're half the 291 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: price of the O A and on a on a 292 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: ten year old vehicle. If they make one. You can 293 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: check out their website. Just Google search Dormant Products. I 294 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: believe it's Dormant Products dot com as a matter of fact. 295 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: But you can look to see do they have a 296 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: camera and if they do, um, it's probably half the 297 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: price of the O E and on a on a 298 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: ten year old car. You know, if the camera at 299 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: the camera last another three to four years, wouldn't you 300 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: be thrilled at half the price? So um? But yeah, 301 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: I think that's where you're headed. Regardless of where you 302 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: get it from, that camera will have to be calibrated though. Okay, 303 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: now is that something I have to take into the 304 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: dealer to have calibrated? Yes, sir, that's a that is 305 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: a that is a very specific scan tool operation type 306 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: of repair. You could install the camera. It's nuts and 307 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: bolts to install the camera if you're competent taking you know, 308 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: screws out and trim off and your patient. And I'm sure, 309 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a million YouTube videos that explains it, uh, 310 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, but yet to get it calibrated. The dealer 311 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: would still have to calibrate that that that that camera. 312 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: So alright, so al right, well, thank you for the direction. 313 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: Very welcome, You're very welcome. You'll be well. Take good 314 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: care of Greg, you know. And it's it's sort of 315 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: timely that we ended the hour with Greg's call, because 316 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: you know, coming up next we're going to be talking 317 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: to someone from Launch about aid DOS Advanced Driver Assist 318 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: Systems and the cameras. Somebody was telling me they just 319 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: purchased a car the other day and it's got a 320 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: camera and I guess it's in the roof that gives 321 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: it the ability when you're parking the car, you can 322 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: see the car, or maybe it's in the side view mirrors. 323 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: You can actually see around the entire car as if 324 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: you're looking down at it from the roof. So when 325 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: you're pulling into a parking spot, it's an aerial view 326 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: of the vehicle as you're pulling in, backing in whatever, 327 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: so that you don't hit anything. Of course, I think 328 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: they're making it so that we don't have to have 329 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: a drive anymore, but not in New Jersey. A boy, 330 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: they need to come here in real soon. Hey, I'm 331 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: run ending of the car doctor. Come on back. We'll 332 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: talk to you about a DOS Advanced Driver Assist Systems 333 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: one oh one right after this, don't go away. Welcome back, 334 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: run Needing of the car doctor. Cameras are everywhere on 335 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: cars today, and it's it's, you know, it's it just 336 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: becomes more and more involved you. You can't purchase a 337 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: new vehicle, it seems without some form of a camera 338 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: on it. But they've been around for a while and 339 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: they're getting more advanced and they're getting smarter as time 340 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: goes by, and it's actually evolved. The addition of cameras 341 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: is actually evolved into a does something mechanics have come 342 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: to known as advanced driver assist systems. And we talked 343 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: about it from time to time as the questions come 344 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: up and as you bring them up, and we thought, 345 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: you know what, let's reach out to an industry expert, 346 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: how Rich Gobin He is a product developed manager over 347 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: at launched Tech USA. Launch Tech makers of scan tools 348 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: and diagnostics, and we're glad to have him with us 349 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: here today to talk about it. How Riach, welcome to 350 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Thank you, ron Um, good afternoon. Where 351 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: I've seen you're on the East coast. I'm in California here, 352 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: so um, I haven't hit noon yet, so thank you 353 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: for welcoming me to the show. Well, however, however, and 354 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: whatever time zone it is, my friend, I'm glad you're 355 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: here with us. Tell us what AID does is give 356 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: us an AIDS one on one. If you're explaining it 357 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: to your mom, how would you tell her or what 358 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: would you tell her? You know, this is what AI 359 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: dos is break it down. So the acronym aid ASK 360 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: stands for Advanced Driver Assistant Systems. So one thing we've 361 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: got to keep a note there and take note of 362 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: a keyword to me is assistant system So ad ASK 363 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: first started in around two thousand six. I believe Lexus 364 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: was the first manufacturer to really advent some type of 365 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: a VAST into one of their models. Um Fast forwards 366 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: more than a decade later, where at the point where 367 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: aid AS is very common across the whole spectrum manufacturers 368 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: from the euro to the Asian to the domestics. UM. 369 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: About five years ago you could you would only find 370 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: it on their premium models, but now what you're starting 371 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: to see is even on the base model. Something as 372 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: simple as the Nissan Sentra has some port form of 373 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: an ADAS system. So what is a s UM. So 374 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: there are usually three elements to AID as they're The 375 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: first element is the l K A and the l 376 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: D A and that stands for lane keep assists and 377 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: lane right UM driver sists, so departure sist. Let me 378 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: correct myself. And that's basically UM mounted on a camera 379 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: that's mounted on the front windshield, and that camera monitors 380 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: UM surrounding type external objects such as other cars, UM, 381 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: pedestrians in some cases on premium models, and it just 382 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: contributes to the driver having that extra pair of eyes 383 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: and that visibility UM. And inevitably the goal of EID 384 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: actors just to facilitate a more safer driver experience for 385 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: everyone on the road. For our listeners that might have 386 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: a vehicle that now has adaptive cruise control, for example, 387 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: we'll we'll put it into something maybe the listeners have 388 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: already experienced and not realized how they got there. So 389 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: if you purchase, for example, I know someone with a 390 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: four to escape it has adaptive cruise control. You can 391 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: set the cruise control to sixty five, get out onto 392 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: the highway, and the carl goes sixty five. If someone 393 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: pulls in front of you, the camera in the windshield 394 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: sees that person and realizes that if they're going slower, 395 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: it automatically slows you down so you don't have to 396 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: disengage the cruise. It helps keep pace the traffic. That's 397 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: part of what the cameras do. Correct correct, Yes, so 398 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: that is one element of the l K A and 399 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: l d A, the lane cap assist in the lane 400 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: departure system that um it ties into that adaptive truth control, which, 401 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: as you just mentioned, is very common a lot of 402 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: equals nowadays. Interesting. So they've got that now. And I 403 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: want to point out what what triggered my in my 404 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 1: brain when you said it's it's shooting out the windshield. 405 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: So for the person that puts and I just bring 406 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: this up because I've seen this that puts the wrong 407 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: windshield wiper on a vehicle and now the wiper sweep 408 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: is in front of the camera. That would probably drive 409 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: the camera crazy, right, Yeah, Actually in some cases that 410 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: can also decalibrate the camera, and you might need a recalibration. 411 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: In most cases, you'll need a recalibration with the approved 412 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: calibration unit. And and and that that's gonna we'll, we'll, we'll, 413 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: we'll get to that part of the conversation because that's 414 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: a whole another but that's that's a whole not experiences 415 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: as that, right. Um, what about if snow was on 416 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: the windshield and you're driving with snow on the glass, 417 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: the camera can't see through that, so the system won't work. 418 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: Does it set off any kind of a false warning 419 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: or false signal? Does it warn you that the system 420 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: is down? I wonder I guess it does, right, Yes, 421 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 1: it does. Um, it will give you, uh kind of 422 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: like a prompt that something has impacted the system, and 423 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: you know it's um to check that driver's system. So 424 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: in many cases it might even trigger like a code. 425 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: So it just depends on the manufacturer. But yes, that 426 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: would hinder the system also. And then there's also and 427 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: then there's also blind spot monitoring. Harrish, tell us about that. Now, 428 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: what's that that's different? Than l K A and l D. 429 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: You know, we're all gonna have abbreviations here. Uh, there's 430 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: l K A, l D, A B S m um 431 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: A U m uh. You know it's gonna be like 432 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: alphabets super pretty soon. Talking about cars, blind blind SPA 433 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: monitoring is what that's a whole another part of the system. 434 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: So blind spot monitoring is the second type of system 435 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: that's um embedded into the eight A system, and that's 436 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: usually centers that are mounted on side mirrors or rare 437 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: bumpers to detect um to detect any external objects in 438 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: those visible points. So if they detect, if the central 439 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: detect something, they'll usually alert the driver by a beep 440 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: or an audible um and you know that would just 441 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: give the prompt there and then and then there's there's 442 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: a round view monitoring, which I was actually talking about 443 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: just before the last break. They now got the ability 444 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: that when you're pulling into a parking spot, it's there's 445 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: an aerial view. And I jokingly comment that, I said, 446 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: I guess the cameras mounted in the roof, but it's not. 447 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: It's it's it's cameras that are built in around the 448 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: vehicle that are projecting a degree view as if you 449 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: were looking from the top down. Correct, yes, correct, and no, UM, 450 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: we're on it's not um. That person did not update 451 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: to the drone package when they bought that particular model. 452 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: The around view is the tistically like you said just mentioned, 453 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: it's a three sixty degree view of the area of 454 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: the vehicle and um, and that usually has four to 455 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: six fish eye cameras. Fish eye cameras are very miniscule 456 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: UM cameras that, but they have a really good scope 457 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: in terms of visibility. UM. So in the cameras. Some 458 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: of the places though the four cameras could mount with 459 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: be the front bumper, there's another one at the rear bumper, 460 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: and then on the two side mirrors. So my first 461 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: thought becomes, you know, being in the business fixing cars, 462 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: and I think about all the people that come in 463 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: on a on a weekly basis with Oops, I knocked 464 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: my rear view mirror off and it's a three mirror. 465 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: I bet mirrors are going to be more expensive now, Yes, 466 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: mirrors are going to be more expensive and um in 467 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: addition to that calibration cost that you know, I'm sure 468 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: you'll we'll discuss more in a bit yeah. Well, as 469 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, let's do this. Let me 470 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: pull over and take a pause. I'm gonna hold you 471 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: over a second segment if you have the time, because 472 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: I want to give some I want to give some 473 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: time to the repair side of this and the diagnostics. 474 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: So when we come back, let's talk about that the mirror. 475 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: You knocked the mirror off your car twenty years ago, 476 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: Well it's too long. You knocked your mirror if your 477 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: car ten years ago it wasn't an ADS system, and 478 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: you knock your mirror off the ADS system car of today. 479 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: What could the cost differences be and what could the 480 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: repair procedures be, And let's lay it out for the 481 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: folks like that. All right, Harris, you stay right there. 482 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: I'm on naming the car Doctor. We're gonna pull over 483 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: and take a pause. We're back right after this. Don't 484 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: go away, welcome back. We're on any of the car Doctor. 485 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: We're here with Harrish Govin. Harris, you're there from product 486 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: Manager Launch take USA, um, so take us through it quickly. 487 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: We we take the mirror off the car of the 488 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: ten year old car. That's a trip to the body shop, 489 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: maybe some paint work and the mirrors bolting on. We're done. Now, 490 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: we take the mirror off something whatever with it with 491 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: an AD system in it. Talk to us about the 492 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: repair procedure. Yeah, So, UM, before I go into that, 493 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just kind of create a scenario. So you 494 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: remember in the eighties when you might have seen a 495 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: movie where the robots would eventually rule the world. So 496 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: we're coming to that time, and we're here. That time 497 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: is here. So like you said, you just illustrated about 498 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: ten years ago you knocked UM the wing mirror out. 499 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: You know, you would go pick up one at Craigan 500 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: or one of your part stores and pop it in 501 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: and you're good to go. So it's not so easy 502 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: nowadays with these newer model cars across the spectrum. Basically, UM, 503 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: you would have to have that mirror replaced UM most 504 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: likely in a body shop and paint, etcetera, etcetera. And 505 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: when that's done, you will see another charge on the 506 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: estimate for an aid as calibration and that's probably gonna 507 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: be a very extravagant cost. And I might catch you 508 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: to like, you know, clean your lens when you off 509 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: your glasses. So what's happening there is UM because the 510 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: ADA is embedded into the control system control modules of 511 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: the car at a very high level UM. There's a 512 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: lot of algorithm, algorithms and geometric geometrical elements that has 513 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: been programmed into that component now, so replacing the component 514 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: physically is not going to suffice. You're gonna need to 515 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: act its replace physically, you have to use approved as 516 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: calibration unit and a high high level bi directional scan 517 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: tool to tap back into the control module of the 518 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: car and kind of reset all the algorithms and the 519 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: parameters UM for the car to clear that out of 520 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: the because if you do, if you don't, the vehicle 521 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: is not going to operate properly. Some of the safety 522 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: features are disabled and you know, never mind just cruise controlled. 523 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: The warnings on the dashboard systems might be shut down 524 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: safety systems, so just break control all that might not exist. 525 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: Real fist. We had a caller about four or five 526 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: months ago from Florida. She had a windshield replaced on 527 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: her Super rout. The dealership never did calibration because the 528 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: husband didn't want to spend the money, he didn't see 529 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: the value, and as a result of that, the vehicle 530 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: would go into limp in and not operate properly until 531 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: she called me and I said, you know what, I 532 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: figured it out. I said, I bet you the system 533 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: needs to be calibrated. She goes, oh, yeah, we didn't 534 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: do that. I think she went and yelled at her 535 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: husband afterwards, and UM uh uh you know, she called 536 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,239 Speaker 1: back a couple of weeks later said, hey, the car 537 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: is fixed. You were right. So, you know, enter a 538 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: company like Launch because you guys have taken on the 539 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: overwhelming task of trying to bring diagnostics to the marketplace 540 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: and educate everybody about a DOS. So talk about a 541 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: basic AI DOS set up using a Launch scan tool. 542 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: Tell us how it happens. We've got about three minutes ago. 543 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: So up until about five years ago that was locked 544 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: a locked source. O EM manufacturers and then their dealerships 545 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: are the only ones that could calibrate UM, such as 546 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: your clients from on Florida that nice lady UM can recalibrate. 547 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 1: We here at Launch. In the last year, UM, we 548 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: have introduced two new products, UM calibration units to the 549 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: automotive after market. And these calibration units are easy to 550 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: use UM. They have all the o E spects and 551 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: information embedded into our software platform that's going to be 552 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: consistent with the vehicle spects of what the manufacturer intended, 553 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be able to calibrate something such as 554 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: the broken windshield that was replaced, a rare bumper that 555 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: was impacted. Um pretty much the whole the whole spectrum 556 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: of anything in the AID as some universe when we 557 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: talk about and let me just touch on that if 558 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: I can, when we talk about you know it has 559 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: to be calibrated for a bumper replacement. It's because their 560 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: sensors in the bumper. But the calibration, the system, the calibration, 561 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: the system, whichever is sensitive to the point if the 562 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: paint is too thick on the bumper, that will affect 563 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: how the vehicle calibrates, if it calibrates at all, correct, correct, correct. 564 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: That's why it's very important that the calibration is done 565 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: by approved body shop. That's that's adhering to the o 566 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: e M Standards of Repair and Replacements and using o 567 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: EUM parts right real quick. Can any repair shop work 568 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: with ADAS equipment? Can anybody learn to use Launch equipment? Absolutely? 569 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: Our latest product offering is called the Launch Export one 570 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: Mobile ad S unit and this UM. We hear a 571 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: launch that we recently. We really developed this this unit 572 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: to work for the average mom and pops independent shop, 573 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: you know too, to handle and keep that revenue inside 574 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: if they have to replace the glass, you know, and 575 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: UM keep the revenue streams open so they can stay 576 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: in business. So this unit, it's it's very compact, it's mobile. 577 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: UM in the sentence a plethora of O e M 578 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: Manufacturer equivalent UM panels and UM And in addition to 579 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: working with our Launch Diagnostics canco the series perfect Hurraich. 580 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: Our time is up today? Can you tell the listeners 581 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: where they're going to get more information? Please follow up 582 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: at www dot launch Tech USA dot com. We work 583 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: with the number of distributors all across the country. One 584 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: of our big accounts are distributors. There is Matco. I'm 585 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: sure you see the Matco trucking stood the more there 586 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: and also if you have any specific information, you can 587 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: email me at promotions at launch Tech USA dot com. Wonderful. 588 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: You know, we could talk for hours, so we're gonna 589 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: have to get you back because the a DOS the 590 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: market is jazz starting. So this is a blooming development 591 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: in the auto industry. How rash. You have a good 592 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: rest of the day, and we hope you have a 593 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: great next week. Sir. We'll talk again real sank our 594 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: doctor in and keep doing your thing and informing your 595 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: listeners out there in the world of automotive happening. Perfect, 596 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: very welcome, You're very welcome, sir. Thank you very much. 597 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: You're too kind. I'm running any in the Car Doctor. 598 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. By Hey, welcome back. 599 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: We're on any of the Car Doctor. Thanks again to 600 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: all the folks at launch Tech USA, launch tech USA 601 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: dot com and her reach for taking the time today. Uh, 602 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: fascinating conversation, right, you never like look at all the 603 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: cameras they're putting on cars and how they're turning them 604 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: into giant computers. And I guess that's sort of segues 605 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: into my next my next segment here that I wanted 606 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,959 Speaker 1: to talk about. Hey, Tom, your daughter is away at college. Correct? Um, 607 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: she's yes, and she at least until the middle of 608 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: next month. So what is she a hunter? She's a 609 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: hundred miles away. Uh right, So do you have problems 610 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: getting car care up there? Just out of curious actually 611 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: in her area. No, she's found a nice garage with 612 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: a nice guy who very bluntly I think likes uh 613 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: working with the pretty girls at the tough vet school. 614 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: So but but but it was it was a little 615 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: bit of a chore. You had to find somebody, right. 616 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: So it's it's and as a parent with a kid 617 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: away in college, the reason I'm asking is nervous Sally. 618 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: That's what she calls herself in the email I have 619 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: in front of me. Nervous Sally writes in from Kentucky. 620 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: She says, dear car doctor, my daughter is going away 621 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: to school in the fall. She'll be out in U. 622 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: C l A. She's going out to college in California, 623 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering what I can do for car repair 624 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: out there. How do I find a good mechanic. I'm 625 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: looking into any kind of a nationwide car care program. 626 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: Does such a thing exist? She's looking for a mechanic, 627 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: And you know, Tom, I thought of you, your daughter. Yeah, well, 628 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: word of mouth is good. And then I went and 629 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: I looked, and I did some research. Pronto Carcare. If 630 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: you get out to Pronto carcare dot com, you can 631 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: go and read their website. They offer a nation and 632 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: white roadside Assistance Program, Nationwide Repair Assistance Toronto carcare dot com. Tom, 633 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: you should have known about that three years ago. Would 634 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: have made your life easier. So I gotta go. I'm 635 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: on an any in the car doctor until the next time, 636 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you,