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Speaker 2: But the franchise tag deadline came and went. We will

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Speaker 2: dive into on what happened there with Sakwan and Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 2: really really good player, will gladly slign his tag and

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Speaker 2: news of the day. The franchise tag deadline has officially

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Speaker 2: came and went, and I think it played out the

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Speaker 2: way those of us with common sense thought it would.

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard, there wasn't much question he wasn't going to

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Speaker 2: That ship has sailed. But Pollard is the only one

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Speaker 2: we'll play for a little over ten million dollars fully

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Speaker 2: the free agent market. Who's paying Saquon Barkley a lot

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Speaker 2: let's give this guy sixty seventy million dollars and guaranteed

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't pencil. Now. Josh Jacobs likes Saquon a

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Speaker 2: not necessarily a no brainer. It's fair to say that

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Speaker 2: was the wrong decision because, like Sakwan Barkley last season,

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Speaker 2: be because it changes depending on your success. He's now

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Speaker 2: a multiple time Pro bowler, the number would be very similar.

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Speaker 2: It'd be slightly over ten million dollars fully guaranteed, but

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Speaker 2: contract or not? He would just be under contract. Now,

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Speaker 2: to redo, they clearly would redo that. Now, speaking of

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Speaker 2: his benefit, Shane still had a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 2: him this one, with Saque being Giants fan number one player. Also,

430
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Speaker 2: this would historically have been where the mars chimed in

431
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Speaker 2: last minute one hundred percent. I was texting with someone

432
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 2: today who is going to come on the show. This

433
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: man might have worked in the NFL for a while,

434
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: and he was like, I'm stunned the Giants didn't fold.

435
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: I think most of us were. I think a lot

436
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: like Daniel Jones. I just expected four years, sixty million,

437
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: forty three million dollars guaranteed, you know, something like that.

438
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: He wanted sixteen, they wanted thirteen. Will meet you at

439
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: average fifteen and will guarantee two and a half years

440
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: of it or something. That's kind of what I expected.

441
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: And that's not the way it played out. And that's

442
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: not the way. There's not a general manager in the league.

443
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 2: There's not any fan who was running a team. People

444
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 2: often say, like Middle Coffee, you're always taking the side

445
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: of the team. Now, I just take the side of

446
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: good business, and I look at it from the side

447
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: of a team, like it's good business to pay Michael

448
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: Parsons to pay Dcam. I'm not against Van Blaers. I'm

449
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: not into paying McGlinchey fifty million. I'm not into extending

450
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: running backs fifty forty five million. I mean, is it

451
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Speaker 2: good business or bad business? Joe Burrow, how much you want,

452
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: Buddy right? Just give me the player and I'll give

453
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Speaker 2: you my take. That's how organizations operate. Now. We can

454
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Speaker 2: disagree on certain players. Daniel Jones would be one, me

455
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: and the Giants management, but I can. I try to

456
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: understand it. The running backs I just won't. I just

457
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: will not. But I also understand where they're coming from.

458
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm so happy the Giants seem to have stood their

459
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Speaker 2: ground against Barkley. I don't think they're as trapped as

460
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Speaker 2: Colin would say. Their win total seven and a half.

461
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: I fully expect them to win ten in the weaker NFC.

462
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: They're actually a team that I think could come back

463
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 2: to earth a little bit. They're not the most talented bunch.

464
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: They're just not right. They just traded for Darren Waller

465
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Speaker 2: this offseason, who makes like seventeen million dollars a year.

466
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Speaker 2: Google Darren Waller's game log, because these last couple years

467
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: kind of been mia he was really good when he

468
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: burst on the scene with Gruden and Carr and the Raiders.

469
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: You know whatever that was four years ago. Hasn't been

470
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: the same. Injuries, hasn't been exactly rushing back to the field.

471
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: It felt like, So he's a little bit of a

472
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: wild card. Another kind of curveball is and I've seen

473
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Speaker 2: it with I remember Khalil Mack. His first year, you

474
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: could tell, like, this guy's going to be really good.

475
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Speaker 2: But statistically, if you just look at a stat sheet,

476
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: it wasn't that great. But if you watched him play,

477
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: you're like, God, I bet on this cat. And by

478
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: a second year he was starting to become just a

479
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: true ass kicker, And to me, its caveon statistically right,

480
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: not great. I had one game I think where he

481
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Speaker 2: had multiple sacks. Memory could be a little off there,

482
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Speaker 2: but I think even Giants fans would have to admit, like,

483
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's fine. He showed some signs of promise

484
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: obviously physically showed like toughness and level football and stuff,

485
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: a lot of good things. But now it was time

486
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: to like, can he be a Tensac guy? Can he

487
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: like they're really really in need of him to like

488
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Speaker 2: take a step. If they can, he could become like

489
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Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl level guy. Then I'm much more bullish

490
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: on that. Like I don't know. I wouldn't bet a

491
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: large amount of money. It wouldn't be shocked, But I

492
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: think there are depending on who you talk to, and

493
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm lucky enough to know a lot of these people

494
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: to evaluate these players. He was a polarizing guy who

495
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: thought he was a little stiff, not a true, you know,

496
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: bend the edge guy, but he does play hard. I

497
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: think he's kind of Him and Waller are fascinating. Both

498
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: those guys are really good Pro Bowl level guys. Giants

499
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: ten win team if Darren Waller plays seven games because

500
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Speaker 2: he's often injured. In Cavon's you know, single five sacks

501
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 2: don't like you as much. What's your feeling on teams

502
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: like say the Falcons trading for Kyler Murray. They have

503
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: a young team on offense, so they could theoretically take

504
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: on the contract. Personally, I wouldn't touch him as he

505
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: seems like a toxic present in the locker room toxics

506
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Speaker 2: presence in the locker room. Cardinals could easily be the

507
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: number one pick and with the theoretical first team from

508
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: the team who traded and their other picks they could

509
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Speaker 2: build around another young quarterback. I do think he would

510
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 2: have a trade market when you look at the Washington Commanders,

511
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: when you look at your team, the Falcons. I think

512
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: this year is about earning some credibility back as a

513
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Speaker 2: human being. I think most people look at him kind

514
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: of like a slap, kind of kind of douchebag. I mean,

515
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: people do not like him around the league. I know

516
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: Colin hit on it on his podcast a while back.

517
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: People do not think highly of the guy and some

518
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: early returns. I saw Larry Fitzgerald say some things at

519
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: the golf tournament about he heard he's making strides to

520
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: just be a better person. And as you watch the

521
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: quarterback documentary, the bar is high. Like wide receivers and linebackers,

522
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 2: a lot of questionable characters in the league about not

523
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 2: being perfect character right, but at quarterback, standards are really

524
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: really high. So when I questioned work ethic, when I

525
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: question how good you are as a teammate, we're not

526
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Speaker 2: even talking about the play. Because he does have a

527
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: lot of talent in that little body of his. But

528
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: people question the guy. And anytime you question the guy

529
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: and you're not like an elite player. Most people are out,

530
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: So I think they got to do a good job

531
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Speaker 2: of building that back, getting the reputation around the league

532
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: of like, you know, he feels like a changed guy,

533
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: he feels like a humbled individual. If they can kind

534
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: of get that, I would say sentiment around the league,

535
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: that would go a long way to improving. How do

536
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: you say it is his status as a trade chip,

537
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: because right now, when you factor in the character question marks,

538
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: the work ethic question marks, and then the enormous contract.

539
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: One thing we've learned in sports is no one's ever untradeable,

540
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: whether you're Russell Westbrook or whether you're Carson Wentz. I

541
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: could trade any contract at any moment. We can figure

542
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: it out. Happens all the time, right I would say

543
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: that one would be pretty tough, especially if he doesn't

544
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: play this year doesn't look great, it would be it

545
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: could be a detriment to their ability to move on

546
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: from it. Now. They could give him away if they

547
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: eat some of the money, but I would say that's

548
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: probably not their ideal tactic, especially winnu factor, and they

549
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: kind of got a cheap owner. Love the pod heard

550
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: you interview with your interview with Colin and was curious

551
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: about Caleb Williams. Can players refuse to go play for

552
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: the team who drafts them. If so, what happens to

553
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: them next? Also excluding any teams with elite quarterbacks, what

554
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: team do you think Caleb would like to play for?

555
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: And why love the pod? Well? I think the key is,

556
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: once I'm drafted, I have the choice of either I

557
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: don't play that year and I go back into the

558
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: draft and they just kind of lose the pick. Is

559
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: essentially what happened in baseball with the A's right Kyler

560
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: got drafted, played football and then just said I'm never

561
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: coming and they just lose the pick and they just

562
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: get nothing out of it. The key is and Eli

563
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: did this, and Elway did this, telling the team under

564
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: no circumstances, I'm playing for you, do not draft me.

565
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: Eli did this with the Chargers. I'm never playing for you.

566
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Speaker 2: Happens all the time in the NBA. Is you set

567
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: the tone before the draft, do not pick me? Trade

568
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: the fucking pick, trade me. I don't care what you

569
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Speaker 2: have to do. This ain't ever happened because once they

570
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: picked me, they got me by the balls. What am

571
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: I going to sit out for the year. Not ideal,

572
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: and it's why it's in my lifetime. I don't remember

573
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: Elway pulling that off, but I do remember the Eli thing,

574
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: which I can't even imagine how big a story that

575
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: would be now. But I do think if you were them,

576
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: you would just do everything humanly possible. As the GM

577
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: monti osin Fort as the head coach. I almost said

578
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: Rich Gannon Jonathan Gannon to talk him into it, to

579
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: work with his agents, to kind of want and dying him.

580
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: Assuming he would do that, and there's a chance he

581
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: might not like I don't think my advice was that's

582
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: what I would do. If I was him, I would

583
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: expect him, like the overwhelming percentage of players, just you're

584
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: going to draft me number one lass role. Trevor Lawrence

585
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: went to Irbert Meyer, Andrew luck went to the Colts

586
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: with Grigson and Pigano. Most of these players just take

587
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: it and figure it out right, just the number one

588
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: pick and you go. That would be my if I

589
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: had to take an educated guest, I don't know. I've

590
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: never met Kayleb Williams, I know a lot of people

591
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: around him. I would just assume whoever gets the number

592
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: one overall pick he'll play fore I do not expect

593
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: him to do that. And you could even argue the

594
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: Cards have proven just over the last fifteen years. I

595
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: mean with Arians, they made the playoffs a bunch two

596
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: years ago, they made the playoffs. That they are not.

597
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't compare them to the Clippers of like my youth, right, Hell,

598
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: they were more embarrassing as a franchise when I was younger.

599
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: They used to be way, way worse that they actually

600
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: are better relative to what they've used to be. And

601
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: I've said it forever. I think the NFL would give

602
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 2: anything to have powerful owners in Arizona and in Vegas

603
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: markets have too much upward trajectory. The franchises are so

604
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: valuable to the league and they just have like Mark,

605
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: Davis does care. He just doesn't have the liquid cash,

606
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: but he will do He will attempt to do everything

607
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: to win. I've always expected Mark like the Gruden. I

608
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: don't think Gruden's very good, but he did, and he

609
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: gave him a hundred million dollars. Right, and listen, the

610
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: Josh and Ziegler thing not working out great so far,

611
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: and they got a major question market quarterback. But I

612
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: can't hate on him for hiring Josh McDaniels. A lot

613
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: of people would have hired Josh mcdanmas over the years.

614
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: So my question with Bidwell is like this, you know,

615
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'd rather Mark Davis is my owner

616
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: than Michael Bidwell. I'll tell you that much. Question for

617
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 2: the bod Belichick and Andy are first and second all

618
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: times in playoff wins. Bill has thirty one and Andy

619
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Speaker 2: as twenty two. If you had to make a bet

620
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Speaker 2: on who reaches thirty two first, who would you pick?

621
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Speaker 2: I would say, let's just say Andy has Let's just

622
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Speaker 2: say he coaches five more years. Let's pick a number.

623
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Speaker 2: I would say it would be. You would take the

624
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: over on five more years. He would need to average

625
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: two a year to get to thirty two. Well, even

626
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Speaker 2: if he just wins, let's just say he wins two

627
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: more Super Bowls in that five year span. That's three

628
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: and three. That's six. So if he can just those

629
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: other three years get a total of four wins, it's hard,

630
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: it is. I would bet on Andy, but I would

631
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Speaker 2: also preface him. I said it's difficult, like he's gonna

632
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: Belichick had years Remember back with Rex Ryan you might

633
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: just lose in in your first playoff game. Eventually, Mahomes,

634
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: They're not always just gonna be in the AFC Championship

635
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: game in the Super Bowl. There's gonna be a game

636
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: at Arrowhead in the second round. They might be the

637
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: one seed, or who knows, maybe they're the two seed.

638
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: And now with the seventh seeds you got to play

639
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: in the first round, you fucking just get upset. Well,

640
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: think about last year. Rolls his ankle right and you're like,

641
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: oh my god, or knee a because this is his knee.

642
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: I haven't got that far in the docu series kind

643
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: of forget Yeah, I think it was his knee when

644
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: he got kind of rolled up on and everyone's like,

645
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 2: oh my god. Where things happen in the playoffs? Right?

646
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 2: They just do. So he could win two more Super

647
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: Bowls in the next five years and still not get

648
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 2: to thirty two. I would say I'd be hard press

649
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: see Belichick win another playoff game. Given as currently constructed

650
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: with Mac Jones as quarterback and the AFC Andy Reid's

651
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: winning more playoff games several I think he's gonna win

652
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: minimum another Super Bowl. If I put the over under,

653
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: i'd put it at one and a half and I'd

654
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: probably take the over but ten playoff games a lot. Now,

655
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: if you me that Andy coaches eight more years, yeah

656
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: he's getting the thirty zero. Tell me coaches four. Just

657
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: do the math. It's very, very difficult, And like I said,

658
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: there just could be a year where he just lose

659
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: in the first round. My first year in the NFL

660
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: was the year Aaron Rodgers won the Super Bowl. We

661
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: won the NFC East host of the Packers. They had

662
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: to beat us on the road in Philly, and they did.

663
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: In the first round. We lost MVP type season from

664
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: VIC home playoff game.

665
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: You lose.

666
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: Now, clearly Mahomes and the Chiefs are better than that team.

667
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 2: But my point is, like you get the first round,

668
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: you might just get like Joe Burrow, maybe they get

669
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: a wild card, or maybe just get a Steeler team

670
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: that just plays unreal defense. I don't know. It's very

671
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: very difficult, so long winded way of saying, I don't

672
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: view Belichick ever winning another playoff game with given his

673
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: current setup. And yeah, I think Andy's got a very

674
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: good chance if he coaches for a while. Big news

675
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: in the league is Hopkins signing with the Titans. It

676
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: could just be my bias as a Titans fan, but

677
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: I feel like this one is going to be a

678
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: lot different than Julio. Hopkins is very similar to the

679
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: offense that Tim Kelly is gonna run, considering he was

680
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: the O C in Houston when he was there. I

681
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: also think the type of team that the Titans currently

682
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: have is very similar to early on in Hopkins' career

683
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: when the team had holes on offense and an inconsistent

684
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: quarterback room. I really think he's going to be a

685
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: solid addition to the defense or to the offense and

686
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: propel them to a winning record. I think instantly makes

687
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: us a playoff contender. How do you feel he will

688
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: do as a Titan? Well, I saw some people in

689
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: my mansions fire now because I don't totally agree with it,

690
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 2: because I think the Titans should take a step back.

691
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 2: But I do understand people saying that what are the

692
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: Jags proven? We got a big time coach. Tannehill has

693
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: proven that he can have a lot of success. AJ Brown.

694
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: I saw the Madden rankings, and you know, I think

695
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson was a ninety nine. Hopkins had a higher

696
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: rating than AJ Brown. That's Ludicros a AJ Brown. To me,

697
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: there's a wide gap if you gave thirty two teams

698
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: the option AJ Brown Hopkins, regardless of money, you're taking

699
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: AJ Brown. So there is an explosive element that Hopkins

700
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: doesn't really bring you that AJ did. I watched a

701
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: couple of years ago on Thursday Night football. AJ Brown

702
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: just beat the Niners by himself. So to me, the

703
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: offensive line is major question marks. They are very, very

704
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: dependent on just Derek Henry playing in an elite level. In defense,

705
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: they do have some pieces. Simmons is a beast, safety

706
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: is a baller. But I don't know. I just feel

707
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: that the Jacks and maybe I'm crazy, but with Doug

708
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: and Trevor feel like a lock to win ten games,

709
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: and maybe just with your grittiness with the head coach,

710
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: you can get to like eight. I have a hard

711
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 2: time seeing the Titans get the nine. It's not a negative,

712
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: like are the Titans better DeAndre Hopkins than not having

713
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins. Of course no one would argue that, but

714
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: I just I think it's gonna be a little bit

715
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: of a letdown. I'm with you. It's not Julio like

716
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: the Julio situation was he was a shell of himself,

717
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: so it was never gonna work. Old guy, broken down,

718
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: always injured. Fellow CAW Paul Alum as well, I have

719
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: a life question and a sports question. First, finishing law

720
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 2: school in December and want to get into the sports

721
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: agent game or work in law with a team. I

722
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: understand the tangible requirements, but I'm still trying to figure

723
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: out how where I should try to break in the

724
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: way you got into the league. Is scouting is inspiring?

725
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: Wondering if you have any advice for me. Second, do

726
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 2: you think the league deliberately abolished the Eagles third and

727
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: short push play offenses able to sustain drive and score

728
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: more points. Might be a good thing, but does the

729
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: old that's your high success rate take the fun out

730
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: of those third and short situations? Yeah? I think it

731
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: just maybe the leak that it was a little boring.

732
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have a great answer for you.

733
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles clearly are a little bitter, and

734
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: I don't blame them. It's like fucking stop to play,

735
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 2: which is a legal play. I do have a little

736
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: bit of a problem with the pushing. It gets back

737
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: to I remember my dad was sick back in what

738
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: would have been five. He was in the hospital for

739
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: some reason. I see something with as lung as he

740
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: was like filling up. It turned out to be okay. Uh.

741
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: But we were in the hospital the day of the

742
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 2: Notre Dame USC game and the famous quote unquote Bush

743
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: push and that play is much different than what the

744
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: Eagles are doing. But there is an element of like

745
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: there's a difference between rugby and football and the pushing

746
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 2: element you know in rugby when you're all on the scrum.

747
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of college roommates that played rugby,

748
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 2: so I went to a lot of games, and I

749
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: have a lot of respect for the sport. I mean,

750
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: they don't have pads, you have some raisy asses. Football

751
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: is a little different than that. And that to me,

752
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: and listen, Sirianni or any of their offensive coaches could

753
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: push back. That to me was an element of the

754
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: play that I didn't love. The pushing. It felt like

755
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: a rugby scrum, not a football play. I don't know.

756
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm a sucker for just ram it up with

757
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: the running back. You either get it or not. Mano Imana,

758
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: my offensive lineman versus defensive linemen and linebackers versus the

759
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: oncoming fullback or whoever I put in that position in

760
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: the running back against the linebacker. Can I get a yard?

761
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: Can I get a half yard or not? That's kind

762
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: of what football is to me, not the kind of

763
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: the origin of the sport, of what I think we're

764
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: getting away from ultimately what it is. That would be

765
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: my take, even though technically they weren't breaking the rules

766
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: as of last year. I would say from a law perspective,

767
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: I would reach out try I don't know that much

768
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: about the age business in terms of breaking in I

769
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: would find ten of the most powerful agents, and I

770
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: would reach out to them in every form or fashion,

771
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: whether that's Instagram, DMS, whether that's on LinkedIn, And probably

772
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: the easier way than like asking for a job, would

773
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: just ask them for advice, because sometimes when you ask

774
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: for a job, I try to do this if I'm

775
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: asking someone for something, like you want to bring something

776
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: to the table or try to act like you want

777
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 2: something out of their knowledge. All you're trying to gain

778
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: is not necessarily you know, hey, can I sit down

779
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 2: and get an interview for your corporation or for your agency?

780
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: But like, what do you think I should do? How

781
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: did you put it? In kind of stroke theory? You

782
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: go right scratch their back a little bit. How did

783
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: you get to where you're at? What was your biggest

784
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: thing you did as a first step? Durozanous has an

785
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: Instagram slide in those dms, Tom Condon, whoever you name

786
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: the agent, fire in some dms and just ask for advice.

787
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: Same thing with LinkedIn fight you know, connect and then

788
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: fire through the email. That way, and you can always

789
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: do the same thing with the contract negotiators. With the team,

790
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: it's a little more difficult to find, like their email

791
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: is not going to be up on the team website,

792
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: find them on LinkedIn. Those guys are much close to

793
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: us normal people in society than the coaches. Easier to

794
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: get a hold of that way, Like I said, advice,

795
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: ask for advice more than like, hey, do you have

796
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: any job openings? I'd love to get a spot because

797
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: a lot of them just won't even respond. Kansas State

798
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: alum here, do you think the Big twelve can settle

799
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: into a solid third conference behind the Big ten in

800
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: the SEC? Do you see expansion by the Big twelve?

801
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: Who I enjoy the pod Go Caps a lot of

802
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: respect for k State. They have a lot of similarities

803
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: to the football school that I first got my start

804
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: in the Presdent State have no business being as successful

805
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 2: as they've been, no business that they are nowhere near

806
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 2: the biggest program in their state. There's just a tough news,

807
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: a grittiness. There's an ethos to the program that is

808
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: just fucking awesome. And I've always back to Bill Snyder

809
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: to what they're doing now a lot of respect. I

810
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: would say this the way college football is going. And

811
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: I think you've seen this in like just society. Think

812
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: about like Walmart and Target. When you get a Walmart

813
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: and a Target in a certain area, they kind of

814
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: just wipe everything around them. And I have a lot

815
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: of respect for mom and pop shops, I really do.

816
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: I knew a lot of people growing up that own

817
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: mom and pop shops that that's how they fed their family.

818
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: But it gets ever more difficult to maintain a level

819
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: of life when you have something like Target has and

820
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: they put in a Target down the street from you,

821
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: because they just destroy you. And I feel a little

822
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: bit Walmart and Target are kind of like the SEC

823
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: and the Big Ten. They got the biggest brands, they

824
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: keep consolidating everything. Obviously the Big Ten adding USC and

825
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: UCLA and then add in Texas and Oklahoma. You know,

826
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: several years ago, remember that the PAC twelve was trying

827
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: to add Texas and Oklahoma, And looking back, that would

828
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: have not just saved the conference, it would have made

829
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: them a major power player. Now, who knows if within

830
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: the failures, maybe those programs would eventually left to the

831
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: SEC regardless. But I have a hard time seeing the

832
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: Big twelve like you're going to have these two bohemos,

833
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: which is Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Wisconsin, Bama, LSU, Georgia

834
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: of Oklahoma, Texas, Florida. They just feel like on a

835
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: complete Like. I do believe that eventually Clemson and I

836
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: understand contractually that the ACC is in bed for a

837
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: long time, But I don't know, Man, Florida State, North

838
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: Carolina SEC gets them, Maybe the Big Ten still gets Oregon, Washington.

839
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: It just consolidates. I mean, that's what happens in every

840
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: other industry, whether it's tech, whether it's retail, it just

841
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: gets consolidated. Everyone drinking a truly high noon selster like,

842
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: Look who actually owns all the drinks that we are

843
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: having at the pool or the beach. Right, They're not

844
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: like little mom and pop shops. They're all owned by

845
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: two or three of the big conglomerates. It's usually how

846
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 2: it works because eventually they just grow and grow and grow,

847
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: and they get bigger and bigger and bigger. And that's

848
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: what I feel like is gonna happen with the SEC

849
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: in the Big ten. So maybe I would say that

850
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: the ACC, as long as they have Clemson, North Carolina, Duke,

851
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: Florida State, they're going to be bigger than the Big twelve.

852
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 2: And I've always loved the Big twelve. I like that

853
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: brand of sports, like I like the football programs, I

854
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Speaker 2: like the basketball programs. But same thing with the Pac twelve.

855
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Speaker 2: You lose those two stalwarts. I think I saw was it.

856
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: Greg Sankie was on I T Bob tweeted it out

857
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, and he was interviewing the

858
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: AD at LSU, and the AD at LSU obviously is

859
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: responsible for hiring Brian Kelly, signing Kim Wulke away from Baylor,

860
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: hiring the baseball coach who just won a national champion,

861
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: Like he's a really really successful ad. SEC guys know

862
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: his name. I forget out the top of my head,

863
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: and he's like, one thing I never forget is even

864
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: in this program where we're winning championships at all these sports,

865
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Speaker 2: we have a lot of high standards, we're trying to

866
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: win and everything, it's football. Seventy five percent of our revenue,

867
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: like football pays the bills. Now, there are certain schools

868
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: like a probably a Duke or a Kansas where basketball

869
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: is disproportionate relative to the rest of the Power Five,

870
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: But for the most part, school for school, football is

871
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: going to have such a disproportionate ratio of revenue that

872
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: it's why the Big East crumbled. Right. I grew up

873
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: being in California watching those programs play back play hoops.

874
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: But football rules today, and it's because of money. So

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00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: I guess it's a long winded way of saying that

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00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if there really is going to be

877
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: a quote unquote third conference. I think the two big

878
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: boys are just going to keep eating everyone alive, and

879
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: if there's anyone in their way, they'll just buy them.

880
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: And I think we're inevitably if I had to take

881
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: an educated guess, the inevitability of where this all ends

882
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: is like AFC NFC, and that's what the Big twelve

883
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: and an SEC turned into. And that will be the

884
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: twelve team playoff, just like was the NFL fourteen team playoff.

885
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: That's that's where we're headed. I'm not a Vikings fan.

886
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 2: This is a alluding to last week's mail bag, which

887
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: was might have been half of Minnesota. I'm actually a

888
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: Cowboys fan, but I was thinking we continue to talk

889
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: about how the Vikings won all these games that they

890
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: weren't supposed to, and that the differential on their points

891
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: for points against just doesn't job. But we agree that

892
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: the Vikings defense is shit. Instead of putting all these

893
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: close games is almost an asterisk on cousins name. Why

894
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: are we putting them as they would have never won

895
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: these games without him? I know watching the quarterback has

896
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: put him on everyone's mind, but the do takes so

897
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: much crap that he deserves. Why can't we just give

898
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: him last season? I agree Cousins was really good last season.

899
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: Cousins was. I say the same thing about him and Dak.

900
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: Those guys are good regular season players. Some flawed about

901
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: both of them that once the playoff comes, like they're

902
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: really impressive. What they're able to the success. They're able

903
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: to have toughness, make the throws touchdowns. Dak throws a

904
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: few more interceptions at least last season. But yeah, because

905
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: it's a good player in a weird way. Given if

906
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: you just I don't know how you quantify this all

907
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: the shit being talking on like social media, He's probably undervalue,

908
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 2: but relative to the high end guys, there's a gap.

909
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: And that gap, whether small or big, is a very

910
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: very important gap because that's really the difference. The other

911
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: thing is part of the reason you get a lot

912
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 2: of shit when you're a quarterback like him is because

913
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: of the money you make, right Like everyone kind of

914
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: thought Derek Carr's cute little story then starts making premium

915
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 2: dollars over the last four or five years he gets

916
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: he just gets treated differently. Same thing with Dak and

917
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: same thing with cousins. Okay, last question, Hey, John, I

918
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: need a boots on the ground. Take. Is Scott's Sale

919
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 2: a good place for a bachelor party if you don't

920
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: like golf. My understanding of the place is it's great

921
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: if you love golf, but if you don't, is there

922
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: enough things to cater a whole trip there? Yeah? What

923
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: are you gonna do on a bachelor party would be

924
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: my question. You're gonna drink if you're not gonna golf,

925
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: right Like I went to Nashville on a bachelor party.

926
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: We ranted airbnb with a sweet pool, and we went

927
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 2: out and went to dinners and booze during the day

928
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: and kicked it so we didn't play any golf. It

929
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: was fun, went to the bars. I'll promise you this.

930
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: Depending on the time of year. Right now, tad been hot.

931
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: It's about one fifteen outside. If you're coming in the fall,

932
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: there is more than enough to do from if you

933
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: Club's not really my thing, but there are more than enough.

934
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: There are sweet bars everywhere, cool hotels you can go

935
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: hang out at. There are day pools you can go

936
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: kick it at. So yes, I would recommend if you're

937
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: not golfing. Number one bachelor spot would probably be like Vegas,

938
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: New Orleans. I'd put in Nashville and Scottsdale, you know,

939
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Speaker 2: not far behind. I don't know exactly know where you live,

940
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 2: depending on where you're at. If you're on the West Coast,

941
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: I don't think you can go wrong in either Vegas

942
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: or Scottsdale. Golf or not. You do not need to

943
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: golf in areas. I haven't played golf in a month.

944
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: Been have a good time. Girlfriends starting to get a

945
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: little edged because it's been a little hot. It's like, yeah,

946
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: it's Arizona. You've lived here eight years. It's hot every summer.

947
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: That's why they God made a c uh Okay, guys,

948
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Speaker 2: talk to everyone later. Peace.

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Speaker 1: The volume