WEBVTT - Christian McCaffrey Returns! | Week 10 Fantasy Football Rankings and Tiers: Studs, Sleepers, and Must-Starts (Ep. 1433)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, friends, and welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Fantasy Football Podcast. It is the Week ten ranking show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, double digies. We have officially hit post trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got it all here. I'm Chris Welch. That is

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<v Speaker 1>Pat fitz Morris and joining the rank show this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Gibbs here from CBS. It should be a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Pat fitz Morris, How are you post trade deadline?

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<v Speaker 1>And good? Bad? Indifferent? I guess at least there were trades.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have any big, massive one. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>feeling post trade deadline?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Nothing big.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Williams, maybe this can resuscitate his fantasy value a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, although probably not startable, but at least rosterball,

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<v Speaker 3>I would think, And you know, nothing else really of consequence.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Khalil Herbert is gonna have much of

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<v Speaker 3>an impact on the Bengals. Just kind of solidifies Chase

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<v Speaker 3>Brown's grasp on the lead back roll there.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, just kind of a nothing burger.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we put it as a whole and

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<v Speaker 1>we look at all all the trades, we can see

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<v Speaker 1>the impact. Jacob. By the way, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to have you on here. Anything from the trade

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<v Speaker 1>deadline you think that's gonna have, like any effect whatsoever

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<v Speaker 1>from a rank perspective. I know Mike Williams might be

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the most obvious. Khalil Herbert being traded has a

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<v Speaker 1>couple people, you know, their excitement maybe up that there's something.

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<v Speaker 1>But was there anything from the trade deadline that you

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<v Speaker 1>think impacts ranks at all?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so. I am a huge Khalil Herbert

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<v Speaker 4>fan as an injury player and a talent for its worth,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think he kind of profiles similarly to Chase

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<v Speaker 4>Brown and being like an early downskuy, So I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if it really changes anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I felt like one guy I was speculating out

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<v Speaker 1>there was like if Rahiem Mostert had been traded, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like if you would have gone to the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>or the Bengals, that would have been a different look

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<v Speaker 1>type of back. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>Khalil Herbert, yeah, does kind of mirror Chase Brown a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike Williams is a good jump up, get it ball.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what happens with a lot of these trades,

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<v Speaker 1>trade deadlines, especially in other sports. All the fun happens

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few days before for the trade deadline, all

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<v Speaker 1>the big trades ended up happening. And from the Deontay

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson's to the DeAndre Hopkins, how will they affect the

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<v Speaker 1>have a sad news. Last week we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate me a little bit and Mick and Bogman on

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<v Speaker 1>the Ranks. Unfortunately, we won't be doing that this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not make the top three or five or

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<v Speaker 1>ten on the Ranks contest, but giving a shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to the week nine rank contests. Kyle Cunningham Roads ended

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<v Speaker 1>up with the number one spot in the week nine ranks.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Zilac, I believe it's how you say Fantasy Football

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<v Speaker 1>advice was number two, and uh Aliza Toursk I believe

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<v Speaker 1>Torsky was on here before, wasn't he?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah from US Yeah, Eli, that's right, Eli. Torski

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<v Speaker 1>from USA today number three in the ranks, with a

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<v Speaker 1>special shout out to my buddy Tom Strachan, who I

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<v Speaker 1>do the Sunday Advice streams right before kickoff. He finished fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike Mayor, Mike Mayer did it again, Pat with

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen a top twenty. I gotta say, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Mayor is like right there in the ranks contest.

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<v Speaker 1>He might be one of the highest here. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>next year we're gonna have to put him to work

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<v Speaker 1>and get him on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Pat, Yes, he is top ten and yeah, hats off

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<v Speaker 3>to our colleague Mike Mayor.

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<v Speaker 1>We hate around these parts to give Mike like any

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<v Speaker 1>accolades or positive reinforcement. We're not really about.

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<v Speaker 2>That with Mike grudging acknowledgment at past.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah from the top of the company. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the president down, We're all like, oh, Mike did it

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Well no, but congratulations to Mike. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys want to follow along today with the ranks,

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<v Speaker 1>go to fantasypros dot com slash rankings. You guys can

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<v Speaker 1>see all of the movement throughout the week for all

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<v Speaker 1>of the great rankers near two hundred, Jacob pat myself

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<v Speaker 1>and tons and tons more. It adjusts the week goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>So gentlemen, let's kick off the ranks show. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>running back ranks. We are going to be going through

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<v Speaker 1>the three tiers of them. We've got good visuals on

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<v Speaker 1>the board, so let's kick it off. Looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>big board for running back ranks for week ten, Sakuon

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<v Speaker 1>Barkley is our top dog. We got Dereck Henry, Bejon Kyron,

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<v Speaker 1>and Devon Hham. That's your top five. Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon, Breeshall,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamir Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor, Aaron Jones, and DeAndre Swift coming

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<v Speaker 1>in at twelve. So these are the again, the top dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a ton of questions, but there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of dissent here as you guys, both are lower than

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<v Speaker 1>consensus on RB one DeAndre Swift. Jacob, you've got him

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<v Speaker 1>at thirteen. Pat, you've got him at sixteen. Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with Jacob, though, let's get your take again. We are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about RB ones. But if you're looking at these

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<v Speaker 1>RB ones, there's a little like one of these is

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<v Speaker 1>not like the others. And I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people feel like that with Swift, you're not crazy lower

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<v Speaker 1>than ECR. But Jacob, what's your gauge on DeAndre Swift

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<v Speaker 1>for week ten?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the one running back I have above him the

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<v Speaker 4>consensus dozen is James Cook. Well, actually in Christian mcaffre

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<v Speaker 4>gonn get him too, just more upside. I think with

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<v Speaker 4>those guys with their offense higher imply totals from Vegas,

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<v Speaker 4>the Bears, it's kind of rough out here, obviously everybody

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<v Speaker 4>knows that. On the good side, for Swift, the usage

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<v Speaker 4>has been in spectacular. He's running back six in expected

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<v Speaker 4>Fantasy points per game over his past four games. That's

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<v Speaker 4>per Fantasy Points Data dot Com. He's running back fourteen

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<v Speaker 4>in XFP on the year, and so I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>about the rangey sit most weeks, all things equal, And

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<v Speaker 4>that's about where I'm at here, and I think it

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<v Speaker 4>is even maybe a positive matchup. For the past five

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<v Speaker 4>offenses to face the Patriots have passed posted a pass

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<v Speaker 4>rate over expectation well below zero, meaning that these teams

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<v Speaker 4>are running the ball much more than expected. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>based off like the circumstances of each individual play going

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<v Speaker 4>into the play, which you know you'd expect teams are

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<v Speaker 4>runing against the Patriots because they're normally winning. Even still,

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<v Speaker 4>these offense has been running way, way more than expected,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I think that's that's good for Swift here.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, we just sought Tony poul go for

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred fifty yard against the Stephens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And one of the things we see here too.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Fantasy Pros rankings page, we do the matchup ratings,

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<v Speaker 1>He's the understript is actually the only B rating of

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<v Speaker 1>all of those, which is kind of ironic. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>B plus rating. Everybody else has an A rating. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is a four star matchup. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>is about the running back. But Khalil Herbert is out

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<v Speaker 1>of their pat Yet you went lower. You're sixteen on

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Swift right now, So tak us through what does

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<v Speaker 1>not have you excited about Swift?

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<v Speaker 2>This week the Bears in general.

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<v Speaker 3>This is sort of a blanket fade of the Chicago

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<v Speaker 3>Bears for me.

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<v Speaker 2>This week.

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<v Speaker 3>DJ Moore was being interviewed on a Chicago sports radio

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<v Speaker 3>station this week and was asked if the Bears head

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<v Speaker 3>coach Matt Eberflus had lost the locker room, and his

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<v Speaker 3>answer was, I won't say no. That is what DJ

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<v Speaker 3>Moder told a Chicago sports radio station. And Moore walked

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<v Speaker 3>off the field in the middle of a play last week,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know he had stepped out of bounds, and

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<v Speaker 3>there was the defense that maybe since he was ineligible

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<v Speaker 3>to be a receiver on that play anyway, that that

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<v Speaker 3>was the smart thing to do. But I mean, he

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<v Speaker 3>turned his back to the field and walked off, and

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<v Speaker 3>he also gave this kind of weird like shoulder bumped

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<v Speaker 3>to Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>As I was going to ask if that radio station

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<v Speaker 1>asked him about that, because that's what publicly got all

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<v Speaker 1>of the you know, just the fervor. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thought legitimately that the team might have looked at trading

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<v Speaker 1>trading him the deadline. Obviously they did not, but like

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<v Speaker 1>he seems to be an issue right now, did they

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<v Speaker 1>ask about the shoulder bone.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I saw the clip of the question about

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<v Speaker 3>Eberflus and that was it. But yeah, I mean we

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<v Speaker 3>saw how the Bears have responded to the hail Mary

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<v Speaker 3>lost to Washington two weeks ago. They got thumped by

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<v Speaker 3>the Cardinals. That's how they responded. So Swift, Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 3>happy with the usage. I mean didn't do much as

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<v Speaker 3>a runner last week, sixteen carries for fifty one yards,

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<v Speaker 3>but he did salvage's fantasy day with six catches for

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<v Speaker 3>thirty one yards. I know the whole matchup against New

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<v Speaker 3>England does look tasty, but I am just treading lightly

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<v Speaker 3>around all members of the Bears, and I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>starting Swift and fantasy. But I know I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>to put him in any DFS lineups this week, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not betting the over on any of his player props.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a messy situation with the Bears. The only

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<v Speaker 1>positive that you could have really thrown into this outside

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<v Speaker 1>of just like the what his individual performance would look like.

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<v Speaker 1>Isle Herbert has gone that's one, you know, less person

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<v Speaker 1>to potentially take away. But what does that believe?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he wasn't They had relegated under obscurity anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, let's jump over because, like I said, we

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's pretty core here. I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>anything crazy, especially with Swift being I would look at

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<v Speaker 1>as like maybe the only outlier of the RB ones

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<v Speaker 1>when we go over to the RB twos going to

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<v Speaker 1>the big board, James Cook comes in at thirteen, Christian

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<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey at fourteen, Tyrone Tracy at fifteen, Kareem Hunt, James Connor, JK. Dobbins,

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Brown, David Montgomery coming in at twenty one, as

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<v Speaker 1>Chewba Hubbard, naj Harris, Tony Pollard, and Ramandre Stevenson. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>we have not talked about Christian McCaffrey on any rank

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<v Speaker 1>in a long time, and we're doing it here, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing it outside of the top twelve. He comes

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<v Speaker 1>in at fourteen. Funny enough, he is actually given an

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<v Speaker 1>A rating. He's the only running back that is given

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<v Speaker 1>the A matchup or I guess it is the start

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<v Speaker 1>sit A rating that's in the RB two ows. So

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<v Speaker 1>the start here, Pat, let's go to you real quick

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<v Speaker 1>on Christian McCaffrey. When we look at your guys' rank,

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<v Speaker 1>fits you've got him at ten and Jacob's got him

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<v Speaker 1>at nine, So you guys are pushed above what ECR

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<v Speaker 1>is right now, A pat, do you think this rank

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<v Speaker 1>is relative to people's concerns that he has not been

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<v Speaker 1>said one hundred percent he's going to go and start

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<v Speaker 1>and people are holding back and b if it's if

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<v Speaker 1>it is not, what do you think is holding people

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<v Speaker 1>back from thinking Christian McCaffrey is just gonna go ham

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<v Speaker 1>on return Maybe you know, slight downtick in touches and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to baby him like what what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think pushes him outside of the top ten.

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<v Speaker 3>The ambiguity of the touch out look for him in

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<v Speaker 3>his first game back, I think without question, and by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, congratulations to all the Christian McCaffrey one on

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<v Speaker 3>one drafters who if you're not sitting at two and seven,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if you're still in this thing, you finally

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<v Speaker 3>get your shiny new toy. I think if McCaffrey is

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<v Speaker 3>truly healthy and ready to go and really as essential

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<v Speaker 3>as he is to the forty nine ers aspirations to

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<v Speaker 3>get back to the Super Bowl, I have a hard

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<v Speaker 3>time believing they wouldn't put him, that they would put

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<v Speaker 3>him back out onto the field if he wasn't completely

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<v Speaker 3>healthy and ready to go. So granted, I'm not expecting

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<v Speaker 3>him to get twenty five touches this week, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think fifteen to twenty is a pretty reasonable expectation. That's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of what I'm basing my ranking on. Give one

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<v Speaker 3>of the three or four best running backs in the

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<v Speaker 3>league fifteen to twenty touches and that's a top ten

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<v Speaker 3>running back for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jacob, you're a little bit higher. And I look

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<v Speaker 1>at this and I just go, he's the best running essentially. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's more argument now, but it's like he's the

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<v Speaker 1>best one to two or three top three running back

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. He's back. The only thing that can

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<v Speaker 1>hold him back is if we think he is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be held back on touches here. But sky feels

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<v Speaker 1>like the limit here. But let's get your take on

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<v Speaker 1>Christian McCaffrey and, like Pat said, a player that the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers need desperately because every win and every

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<v Speaker 1>game for the forty nine ers is must win moving.

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<v Speaker 4>Forward exactly, it's go time. The Niners have said Week ten,

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<v Speaker 4>all long authentications are good coming out of the by

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<v Speaker 4>this seems like the plan. So as long as there's

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<v Speaker 4>no setbacks, I would expect him to assume most of

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<v Speaker 4>his usual role. And the Niners have the second eyes

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<v Speaker 4>implied total this week twenty eight points, so they're expected

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<v Speaker 4>to put up a ton of points.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think there's going to be any holdback of

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<v Speaker 1>some of his touches like that we do see maybe

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five percent of production, because I still don't I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even sure if seventy five percent of his production

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<v Speaker 1>could have me have him outside of the top five

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<v Speaker 1>if we're being.

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<v Speaker 4>Honest, right, Yeah, if we knew he had his full role,

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<v Speaker 4>he'd probably be a top five running back. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>would have him at running back three or four, right

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<v Speaker 4>there with Kien mb John Robinson. So I'm expecting maybe

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit, but it's mostly just the ambiguity is

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<v Speaker 4>the reason he's not there. It wouldn't surprise me at

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<v Speaker 4>all he does have that role.

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<v Speaker 1>Be on the lookout for it. That's a perfect example

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<v Speaker 1>of a player to keep on watch because he might

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<v Speaker 1>be moving up and up as we start to get

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<v Speaker 1>some information if they say yes he is this, or

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<v Speaker 1>yes he is going to have this type of a

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<v Speaker 1>snap count hold back like those are the things that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to move the rank. But it's Christian McCaffrey.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the ECR is going to move up and

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<v Speaker 1>his window is probably somewhere between twelve and four this

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<v Speaker 1>week of ranks as it moves on. Next up on

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<v Speaker 1>the RB threes, Ramandre Stevenson, this is a very interesting one.

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<v Speaker 1>ECR twenty four. You guys have a sandwich here because

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Jacob you've got him at twenty five, Fitch,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got him at twenty three. He's kind of inconsistent.

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<v Speaker 1>He is kind of the guy there, Jacob, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>your take. You do not have him as an RB two,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not picking too much because he's twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>For you, what's your take on Rimandre Stevenson this week.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have a whole lot to add on Remandra.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm curious to hear what pat has. Just generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 4>it's tough to bet on any Patriots. I do like

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<v Speaker 4>Drake may just because he brings some fantasy football cheek

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<v Speaker 4>code goodness with his running. But for me, even with

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<v Speaker 4>a great usage for Romandra, you're kind of having to

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<v Speaker 4>bet on touchdowns for him to get there. For fantasy

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<v Speaker 4>and his team's only implied for like fifteen sixteen points

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<v Speaker 4>every week. That's the case again this week, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Been a big problem. I've had pat with Remandre's first

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<v Speaker 1>off inconsistencies and second off. Like I think you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>this before, but it's like a team that is most

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<v Speaker 1>likely playing from behind in a lot of elements is

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<v Speaker 1>not looking to establish, you know, big amounts of running.

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<v Speaker 1>Though Drake may have made this team better, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>him at twenty three, so you do have him in

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<v Speaker 1>the RB two territory. What say you on Remandre?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe I'm not being consistent here because if I

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<v Speaker 3>am predicting a Bear's collapse, then I should probably have

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<v Speaker 3>Remandre above consensus and not below. And certainly the Bears

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<v Speaker 3>run defense is not really what's scaring me off for Madre.

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<v Speaker 2>It's thirtieth in DVA.

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<v Speaker 3>What makes me nervous is that over his last three games,

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<v Speaker 3>Vermondre is averaging two point two yards per carry, and

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<v Speaker 3>he hit a tough matchup against the Titans last week,

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<v Speaker 3>no denying that ten carries for sixteen yards, but he

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<v Speaker 3>was also under three yards per carry against the Jets

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<v Speaker 3>and Jaguars, who are not exactly you know matchups for

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<v Speaker 3>running backs. Rimandre has scored four touchdowns over the last

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks, but he is struggling to consistently pick up

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<v Speaker 3>yardage behind a Patriots offensive line that ranks thirty second

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<v Speaker 3>in run blocking according to PFF.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild numbers in general for him, and he has become

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<v Speaker 1>just a tiny bit dodgy. This is an interesting one

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<v Speaker 1>because I actually signaled this running back, Tony Pollard RB

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three as a Cell candidate on the Buy Cell

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<v Speaker 1>Hold Show this week. And obviously he has, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>been phenomenal this year, but I let coach speak get

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<v Speaker 1>into me a little bit at Holds a tiny bit.

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<v Speaker 1>They said they want to lower the usage. Also, not

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<v Speaker 1>a great team, and you know, maybe Rudolph is going

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<v Speaker 1>to move the offense a little bit more. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're telling me this offense who's going to be playing

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<v Speaker 1>from behind, is going to take touches away from Tony Pollard,

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<v Speaker 1>seems kind of like a Cell high territory. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is not the by Cell Trade show. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Rank Them and Play him this week. Tony Pollard is

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three on this list. Jacob, you actually have him

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<v Speaker 1>at ECR Fitch. You've got him a little bit higher.

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<v Speaker 1>So Fitz, let's just jump to you real quick. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got him at nineteen. Are you afraid we're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>anything taken away? And frankly, from how you know how

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<v Speaker 1>he's performed, feels like he should be higher. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>not getting into that range. What's you take on Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Pollard this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my fears about Tony Pollard were mostly last week

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<v Speaker 3>when there were doubts about whether he was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to play at all with his foot injury.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only did he play, but a season high twenty

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<v Speaker 3>eight care he's for one hundred and twenty eight yards.

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<v Speaker 3>Also three catches for twenty six yards. So over his

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<v Speaker 3>last five games, Tony Pollard is averaging one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>six point four yards per game from scrimmage. He's at

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<v Speaker 3>at least two catches in every game this season. They

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<v Speaker 3>are just leaning into the Tony Pollard usage like that

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<v Speaker 3>is now the Titans offensive identity. And I know this

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<v Speaker 3>is a tough matchup against a Chargers defense that has

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<v Speaker 3>allowed the second fewest fantasy points to running backs, but

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<v Speaker 3>Pollard really has become a true workhorse, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>a mid range running back two ranking for him is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty reasonable.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob, what's your gauge and what's your take on Tony Pollard?

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<v Speaker 1>Of the top twenty four running backs we have here

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<v Speaker 1>listed on Fantasy Pros at least our top twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Pollard has given the worst matchup rating of all

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<v Speaker 1>top twenty four. Another reason against the Chargers why he's

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<v Speaker 1>got pushed down week ten Tony Pollard, what say you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Only one running back is top to seventy yards against

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<v Speaker 4>the Chargers. It's been a brutal matchup. And then you

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<v Speaker 4>look at Vegas imply totals, the Titans sit at fifteen points.

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<v Speaker 4>They're the only team below the Patriots in Week ten,

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<v Speaker 4>So on paper, everything is brutal. And like you, I

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<v Speaker 4>do think he might be a cel long term and

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<v Speaker 4>that could start coming into effect in the weekly matchups.

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<v Speaker 4>In the weekly usage, forty eight rushes over fifty touches

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<v Speaker 4>over the past two games is just a lot for anybody,

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<v Speaker 4>especially Tony Pollard. And he had a week five by

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<v Speaker 4>so he's got to go twelve weeks straight or something

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<v Speaker 4>sustaining health. And it wouldn't surprise me if they do

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<v Speaker 4>try to like help him out and that and stop

0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:12.480
<v Speaker 4>just putting so much on his plate because it's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot for anybody to handle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of tough when they say, like, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>want him to like touch the ball less after he

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<v Speaker 1>had twenty eight touches. So it's like, okay, do you

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<v Speaker 1>want less than the twenty eight that's still amazing? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is this a general statement because if it goes from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nineteen down to fourteen carries, okay, that's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it goes from twenty eight down to twenty two,

0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.439
<v Speaker 1>we can still live completely fine. But you just you

0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.679
<v Speaker 1>take that and then you and just not look pretty

0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.280
<v Speaker 1>decent over the weekend as well. Just you know in

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<v Speaker 1>a run or two that I saw you take that

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<v Speaker 1>and then you put it against one of the worst matchups.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't it doesn't feel super great for this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I would tell you at twenty three this is the

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<v Speaker 1>land of pivoting that you could probably start to do.

0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:00.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, like I don't even write a bove him

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<v Speaker 1>on ECR with nause and Cuba. I'm really not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting cute with a lot of stuff, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know it sounds weird to do with Pollard, but you

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<v Speaker 1>might this might be the line of the Pollard and

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<v Speaker 1>remandres where you start to look and you say, well,

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I got something else special in here,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I can pivot. Maybe someone did want to mess

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<v Speaker 1>RB's twenty five through thirty six. We start with Rico Dowdell,

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<v Speaker 1>Rashad White, Brian Robinson, Bucky Irving, Javante, and Tank. That

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<v Speaker 1>rounds out your top thirty Raheem Mostert, Austin Eckler, Tyler Algier,

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<v Speaker 1>Travis etn Jalen Warren, and Ray Davis. That's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a fun one. Let's start with Rico Daddell, who

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<v Speaker 1>I just talked about. Rico has the Philadelphia Eagles for

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<v Speaker 1>some about to say the Phillies Baseball still on the

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<v Speaker 1>mine four star matchup, but C plus rating here, Rico

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty five. Fitch, you got him at twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>as well, but Jacob you got him at twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get your take on Rico Dawdell being the

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<v Speaker 1>guy we've heard nothing about Ezekiel Elliott. I would expect

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.120
<v Speaker 1>him to not play nor take anything away. We're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of into an open season of Rico Dawdle having this

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<v Speaker 1>and the did not go acquire anybody. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought could have been kind of tricky to this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Rico seems like one of those guys that could go higher.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jacob, what say you on Rico datl because you

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<v Speaker 1>are a few spots lower.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we've seen this Fangio defense really shape up lately,

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<v Speaker 4>and I do think it takes some time for it

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<v Speaker 4>to come together. For his defenses, they've been really really

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<v Speaker 4>good against the run. Past few running backs to face

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<v Speaker 4>him have topped out of twenty four, thirty two, twenty three,

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<v Speaker 4>forty three, forty nine, and forty nine rushing yards, so

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<v Speaker 4>we haven't had any running back top fifty yards since

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<v Speaker 4>Week three. On the ground, I'm not a huge Rico

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<v Speaker 4>Dado believer either, and the offense I don't think is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be very functional without the QB and the

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<v Speaker 4>wide receiver one. They're sitting at seventeen as an implied

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<v Speaker 4>point total for this week, so if you can avoid Rico,

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<v Speaker 4>I would.

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<v Speaker 1>In the projected points. It's another thing you can see

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<v Speaker 1>on the ranks here. Rico is one of the final two,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's technically in the RBS PAT there are only

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six backs that are projected to have double digit

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<v Speaker 1>scoring in half PPR this week. Rico is number twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five at eleven point eight against Eagles in this divisional

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<v Speaker 1>divisional matchup, pat what say you? I think you said

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<v Speaker 1>you have him like right at consensus rank here. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think he's a tier difference away from Tony Pollard

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<v Speaker 1>as well? Just kind of bridging that conversation again, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think like they are complete tier difference or do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's close.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a tear drop from Tony Pollard to

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<v Speaker 3>Rico Dowdell. And you know, this is kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>push pull situation. When Jacob mentioned that the Patriots and

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<v Speaker 3>Titans have the lowest implied team point totals for this week,

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of surprised that Dallas is above those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of a good reminder that I need to go

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<v Speaker 3>and bet the team under for Dallas this week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, with Ezekiel Elliott held out last week, we

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<v Speaker 3>did see something close to workhorse usage for Dowbele a

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<v Speaker 3>season high seventy one percent snapchare seventeen touches one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and seven yards from scrimmage. Also had that fun juggling

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 3>touchdown catch that you know until say Quon Barkley had

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 3>his great crazy Mario Brothers leap Rico's touchdown catch would

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<v Speaker 3>have been the highlight of the week, but Saquon pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much relegated that highlight to the dustbin. But you would

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<v Speaker 3>think the Cowboys would be ready to turn this backfield

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<v Speaker 3>over to Rico by now with what you know. Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 3>Elliott and Dalvin Cook have not been able to do

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<v Speaker 3>for the Cowboys. On the other hand, yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a much less potent offense with Cooper Rush at quarterback

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 3>instead of Dak Prescott. So it's going to mean fewer touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe fewer plays if Dallas can't sustain drive, so workhorse

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<v Speaker 3>usage perhaps, but it might be sort of empty volume.

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<v Speaker 1>You know those videos you can watch online, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>like you watch people react to like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>first time they've heard something. Those reaction videos. I could

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<v Speaker 1>watch his teammates, Saquon Barkley's by the way, to that play.

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 1>There's a video out there of his teammates seeing him

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<v Speaker 1>do the backwards jump. I could watch four thousand of

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<v Speaker 1>those all day long. It was one of the most

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>spectacular plays and it was just like, what like the

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.119
<v Speaker 1>greatest fourteen yard gain in NFL history. It felt like

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<v Speaker 1>just watching everybody was phenomenal. I know it is more

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<v Speaker 1>about Rico here, but had to talk about that Sikuan,

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that Sique broken tackle. Let's talk about the Bucks situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky Irving comes in here at twenty eight. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like the weekly Bucks Rashad White versus Bucky Irving conversation,

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and Rashad White keeps holding his value. I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a testament here too, is like this has not happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky Irving is clearly just the better runner, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that they want between the tackles, but Rashad

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>White gets the touchdowns, keeps rolling. Rashad White comes in

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty six this week against the forty nine ers

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky Irving, though at twenty eight there seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>a head situation. Forty nine ers have you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>can run on them. There's been a thing you've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to do this year, But Rashad White still holds it.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat what say you about Bucky turning? This into kind

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<v Speaker 1>of both of the guys a Bucky Irving but be

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<v Speaker 1>Rashad White and them battling out their ranks. Because you

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<v Speaker 1>do have Bucky Irving at twenty six, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>him higher than Rashad White?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like one spot so our colleague Sam Hoppin does

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<v Speaker 3>a terrific weekly article looking at usage trends, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he points out that the Buccaneers running back usage has

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<v Speaker 3>been pretty fantasy friendly in recent weeks. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>both running backs Irving and Rashad White have averaged around

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<v Speaker 3>five point three high value touches per game, and we

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:39.199
<v Speaker 3>want those valuable high value touches, carries close to the

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<v Speaker 3>goal line, pass receptions, and Bucky's passing game usage has

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<v Speaker 3>been up, and it makes sense that the Buccaneers in

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<v Speaker 3>Baker Mayfield are leaning more on the running backs in

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 3>the passing game without Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the Tampa Bay running backs had a rough go of

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<v Speaker 3>it against the Chiefs on Monday, but pretty much every

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<v Speaker 3>running back has a rough go of it against the

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<v Speaker 3>chief who have a lot of the fewest fantasy points

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 3>per game to running backs by a wide like wide margin.

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<v Speaker 2>They are number one with.

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<v Speaker 3>A bullet So Irving had seven carries twenty four yards,

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 3>three catches for ten yards. I think there might be

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<v Speaker 3>a wee bit of recency bias with the ECR here

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 3>after that disappointing performance.

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 2>But Buckys look terrific this year.

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 3>He's averaging five yards per carry, and I don't think

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Bucky Irving stakeholders should share like they should not be

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.239
<v Speaker 3>afraid of this matchup. As you mentioned Welsh forty nine

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 3>ers defense nineteenth in Dvoa against the run like this

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 3>is not the same sort of matchup Bucky faced against

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<v Speaker 3>the Chiefs last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Well in the type of running backs that do really

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<v Speaker 1>well against the forty and ers are guys like Bucky.

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>But you know, if they are playing from behind and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got coverage, you know, focusing on Kate Otten, let's say,

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>like a Fred Warner, it does leave open opportunities where

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Rashad White could maybe eat Jacob. You

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>are lower on Bucky Irving than ECR. Do you have

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>this flip where you were Rashad over Bucky this week?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and I hate it. Bucky's my favorite running back

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 4>in the NFL. Have been super high on him this year,

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 4>So I really don't like to come on and represent

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 4>a negative side with Bucky here. But yeah, I'm just

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 4>a little bit worried about Tampa Bay. I do really

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 4>recognize that, you know, the Niners have been easy to

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 4>run on. Then the Chiefs hope for a better efficiency

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 4>game from Bucky, but we do have to point out

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 4>that he has twenty three, forty four and twenty four

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 4>rushing yards of his past three games that since for

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 4>shot White has returned thirty five, forty two and thirty

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 4>five percent snap rates for Bucky in those games. It's

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 4>a short week of rest for Tampa Bay, whereas the

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Niners are coming off of their bye week. The Bucks,

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 4>I think, don't have a great implied total if I

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 4>remember correctly, twenty two and a half, that's middle of

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 4>the pack.

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know.

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of gamescript things here that don't set

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 4>up super well for Bucky and seem like maybe more

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 4>of a shot White type of a game. And until

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 4>we see Bucky like really get it going on the

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 4>ground and building some momentum, I just feel a bit

0:29:58.440 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 4>hesitant to put him in the lineup and I've got

0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 4>him everywhere, and that's I've kind of backed off because

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 4>it's like, unless he gets a touchdown or gets kind

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 4>of lucky with the receptions, it's all coming down to

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 4>his rushing and the rushing really hasn't been there lately.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think the thing that we're all kind

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>of implying not on the total, is that like, if

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the Bucks are playing from behind, it's more of a

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Rashad White game. And you know Niners coming off of

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a bye Christian McCaffrey coming back, if they're getting ahead,

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>that team is going to be throwing the ball a

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>lot more. Not that Bucky doesn't get involved in the

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>passing game, you just might see a bit more Rashad White.

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a tough situation.

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<v Speaker 4>I did want a note that we've really seen this

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 4>screen game become concentrated on Rashad White and Bucky, which

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 4>is dope. With Chris Godwin going down, I was curious

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:44.719
<v Speaker 4>where that would go. We've only seen two screens decayed

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 4>and over the past two weeks, whereas White has five

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.959
<v Speaker 4>and Bucky Irving has four and the Bucks are probably

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 4>maybe the best screen offense in the NFL. I really

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 4>love Liam Cohen's offense, and so that that's a good

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 4>note for both those guys.

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Rashad White reception total always something fun to play with

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>in probably this week as well, the last one on

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>this crew. Let's talk about Ray Davis. Ray Davis made

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>his fantasy worth on that one play this past week

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's pushed him up to RB thirty six. It's

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>a really interesting crew that's at the bottom here of

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the thirties. By the way, you're looking at like the

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Algiers and the Etiens and the Warren just a bunch

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>of people you don't trust. Amazing we're you know, we're

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.719
<v Speaker 1>still looking at et and someone we just don't trust anymore.

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>And then Ray Davis almost just kind of pokes his

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>head in and just like, hey, guys, I'm even less trustworthy.

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Even though he's this amazingly talented player. You just got

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to get more out of him. And he comes into

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>ECR thirty six. Jacob's got him at thirty six, but Pat,

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you've got him have forty here. So is this as

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>simple as like Ray Davis is super fun, but like

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>he's got to do something with his six touches per game?

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Is that what he says about?

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's exactly it. I mean, I love the player.

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 3>But aside from that week six game against the Jets

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 3>where James Cook was out and Ray Davis rolled up

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 3>over one hundred and fifty yards from scrimmage, he has

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 3>averaged six touches a game. Welsh in all other games,

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 3>So his snap shares the last three weeks twenty fourteen percent.

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't even have the backup role to himself because

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 3>the Bills also like to play Ty Johnson. One of

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 3>ray Davis's six touches last week went for sixty three

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 3>yards and a touchdown. That's it's just not the type

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 3>of production I want to chase. And I realize it

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 3>is a four team by week and some people are

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of looking at ray Davis on their bench like

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 3>do do I play for that big play and maybe

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 3>put him in a flex spot. I'm at this position

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 3>in a few leagues where I'm actually looking at ray Davis.

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I might actually consider starting this guy.

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 3>But man, you were just kind of chasing that long

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 3>touchdown from last week.

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>And when you're.

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Getting six touches a game, give or take, man, you

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 3>need that big play to pay off because if you're

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 3>doing it on volume alone, it could be a rough ride.

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<v Speaker 1>The simple story is running have stunk, especially depth at

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>running back, at something everybody thought we were going to

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>be able to. Like every week we'll have six or

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>seven waiver guys and we'll just have this great time

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's like Nope. After like twenty six everything stinks, Jacob.

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Is it as simple love the player, hate the game

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>with Ray Davis here?

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 4>Hm? For sure. He always say one of his touches

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 4>is a goal line touch, and so like, if you're

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 4>gonna bet on somebody random, maybe you bet on a

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 4>Buffalo Bill. They've got twenty six point implied total. They

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 4>could get up big on the Colts and maybe Ray

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 4>Davis gets a few more touches. But yeah, it's it's

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 4>a really really thin bet you're making here.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you just quickly, Jacob, do you think that Etan

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>win out there is a tier difference above guys like

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Warren, Ray Davis, Tyler Algie or do you think

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>he belongs in that range now?

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 4>No, I actually have Jayleen Warren above all of those guys.

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if we're going to talk about him

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 4>or not. Et and I have quite a ways below.

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 4>Just because the offense looks terrible. It's a really brutal

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:58.239
<v Speaker 4>match against Minnesota, maybe the toughest team to run on.

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 4>He only had a thirty three percent now rate last week.

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 4>Maybe that goes up, but they were getting all through

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 4>running backs involved.

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll throw Jalen Warren at US then real quick, because

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>we're inning out the rbs here. What's your take on

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Warren.

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<v Speaker 4>Then, Yeah, he's been playing more and I think he

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 4>should be the healthiest he's been all year. It's been

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 4>a frustrating year from a health standpoint, but they're coming

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 4>out of the by I really like him as a talent,

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 4>and he's got a match up against Washington where you

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 4>can run the ball against the Commanders. That's probably been

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 4>the case lately, and teams have really been focused more

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.359
<v Speaker 4>on the run game against the Commanders. I think that's

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 4>probably exactly what we'll see from a coaching staff that

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 4>likes to run the ball. Specifically, the Commanders have been

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 4>really bad against man gap runs. We're getting really in

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 4>the weeds here, but Jayalen Warren is one of the

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:41.479
<v Speaker 4>best running backs in the NFL in those types of runs.

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 4>Not that the Steelers do that all out there, mostly

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 4>his own heavy defense or offense, but they've leaned into

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 4>more up the middle kind of runs lately, and I

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.240
<v Speaker 4>think Warren could gash them for a few big plays

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:50.760
<v Speaker 4>in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking for a little bit of a deeper RB play

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>afflex Then Jalen Warren has got you covered. We have

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<v Speaker 1>This is wide Receiver Ranks. We are going through all

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<v Speaker 1>the wide receivers for this week, wide receiver ones, twos,

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<v Speaker 1>and threes with some big questions and hopefully answering some

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<v Speaker 1>of yours. If you have got more questions that we

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.600
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<v Speaker 1>to two hundred rankers that are putting in ranks all

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got any other questions and no, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of offerings here for you, gentlemen, Let's talk

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and get right into these wide receiver ranks for week ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at the big board, number one Justin Jefferson, followed

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>by Jamar Chase, Malik Nighbors, Aman Ross, Saint Brown, and

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Hilly Pretty Choky top five. Cooper Cup comes in

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 1>at six, followed by Garrett Wilson, Pokinakua, Deebo aj Brown,

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Zay Flowers, and Drake London. ECR for Deebo Samuel is

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 1>nine fits. You've got him outside of wide receiver one, Jacob,

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you have him at wide receiver six. So Jacob, let's

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 1>talk about the high man here. Deebo Samuel coming off

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>of the buye. He's the number one in that offense.

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully everybody's healthy. Christian McCaffrey coming back, maybe he doesn't

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>really slightly take necessarily anything away. If anything, it might

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.959
<v Speaker 1>make them more efficient. But let's get your breakdown. Why

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>is Debo in that top six?

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<v Speaker 4>For you? I do think that Christian McCaffrey coming back

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 4>helps the offense overall, and the Niners do have the

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<v Speaker 4>second highest em player point totally this week. So I

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<v Speaker 4>do think we're going to see a good game from

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 4>them offensively. I think the buy came at exactly the

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 4>right time for Deebo Samuel, and hopefully he will be

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 4>healthier than we've seen him really since the beginning of

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 4>the season. And then the big thing here is I

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 4>just have to point out the per route data for

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Deebo Samuel with Brandon Ayuk off the field is absolutely absurd.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 4>So this is from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four,

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 4>He's run one hundred and six routes without Brandon Ayuk

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 4>on the field. On those routes, he's averaged over four

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 4>yards per route run. For reference, on that Tyreek Kill

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 4>is the next highest player during that span at three

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 4>point two. Justin Jefferson is next at two point eight.

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:46.280
<v Speaker 4>Deebo's at four point h nine yards per out run

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.439
<v Speaker 4>without Brandon Ayuk on the field. His target per route

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 4>run rate rises to thirty six percent. Without Brandon Ayuk

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 4>on the field, gets a little bit more downfit involvement,

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 4>and then just over all the offenses funneled through him. Meanwhile,

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 4>George Kittle's rates have been basically the same and they've

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 4>risen a little bit without Ayuk on the field, But

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.800
<v Speaker 4>I think George Kittle has been more sensitive to Deebo's presence,

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:10.800
<v Speaker 4>which I think makes sense because of the vicinity which

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 4>those players draw their targets is a little bit more similar,

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 4>whereas Debo has been able to get a little bit

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 4>more evolved down the field as a route runner and

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 4>the first read target for the team. On that note,

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 4>in the first game without Ayuk, it was a big

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 4>game for Kittle and not so much for Debo, but

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 4>the underlying data suggests that more big things could be coming.

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 4>It was a forty one percent first read target rate

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.479
<v Speaker 4>for Deebo Samuel. That's per Fantasy Points status, so forty

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 4>one percent of Rock Party's first read targets went to

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 4>Deebo Samuel in that game. Thirty five percent for Kittles,

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 4>So still really good for him. He's a tight end one.

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 4>But I think people really sleep on Debo and we're

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 4>going to get to Jalen Waddle lately. It's kind of

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 4>a what have you done for me lately? Type of

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.720
<v Speaker 4>game that we play here. Don't forget how good Deebo

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.320
<v Speaker 4>Samuel is. That's kind of where I'll leave.

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>It, you know, I'll agree with the Homer forty nine

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>er stuff me. One thing I want to add, don

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>This is not necessarily a counter two because I agree

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.320
<v Speaker 1>with everything, But something I've been beating the drum about

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that you do have to consider is Juwan Jennings. And

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>when Juwan Jennings was in earlier this year, Juwan Jennings

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>ended up playing that Brandon Ayuk role early in the year.

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 1>He was the deep threat guy that brock perty loved

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to go to. We have not had Juwan Jennings. He

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.479
<v Speaker 1>is back in practice, looks like he's going to play.

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:27.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't really think that has to take away from

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Deebo Samuel, but just this is maybe that reminder that

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Juwan Jennings might be that play as he comes back. Pat.

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't imagine that Juwan Jennings is a reason that

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you're putting Deebo Samuel outside of the top twelve. But

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 1>you have been actually been pretty high on Deebo, I

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 1>feel like for some of the year. But what is

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>your take where he is outside of the wide receiver

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>one range for you?

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 3>I have been mostly high on him, but Deebo is

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 3>always such a hard player for me to rank because

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 3>his target counts are all over the place. His involvement

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.800
<v Speaker 3>as a runner can be inconsistent. I feel like sometimes

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm leaning on vibes way more for Deebo Samuel that

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 3>I'd like to rather than any hard data we can

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 3>sink our teeth into. But I try not to have

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Takelock and Jacob just provided some incredibly interesting hard data

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 3>that has me wanting to move up Debo in the rankings,

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 3>because over four yards per target or per route run

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 3>is just that is an insane number. And that's not

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 3>a small sample size. That's over one hundred routes that

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 3>we have with Debo playing without Ayuk on the field.

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 3>So I didn't want to fall into the trap of

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 3>thinking that Ayuk's absence would automatically make Debo smash play.

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 3>But boy, that's a compelling reason to think he might

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 3>indeed be a smash play. So yeah, I mean, I

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 3>do have a hard time ranking him inside the top

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 3>twelve when I know that the distribution of touches is

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:51.280
<v Speaker 3>also going to include Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle, Juwan Jennings.

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 3>But man, when I hear about those numbers and what

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Debo has done without Ayuk so far, I think I'm

0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 3>probably going to have to move him into wide receiver

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 3>one range.

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm going to be inside the top ten

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>for Deebo Samuel. One other thing to consider, not that

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 1>anyone is really considering, like not playing him again these

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>are wide receiver ones. But one thing is Dievo has

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>done a really good job in his career of playing

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 1>off of that like short pass screen game, and I

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:17.760
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's kind of been gone this year. Christian

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey makes that so much better. Where you can roll

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey on one side, screen pass Debo on the other side.

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey changes defensive looks, and it could you could get

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.240
<v Speaker 1>like old traditional We're going to just throw that screen

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.359
<v Speaker 1>pass to Debo three or four times a game and

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:34.399
<v Speaker 1>see what he can end up doing with it. Because

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:37.919
<v Speaker 1>they've also got better deep threat options with jennings Back

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and Kittle. Just the thing to think about that, Like,

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I know this is semantics about a wide receiver one,

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 1>but I lean with Jacob here that I really do

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>think that Debo has a chance to smash more than anything,

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 1>even though they're bringing such a big fantasy option back

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>to the team, and like an interesting I think We

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 1>already have the answer here. Pat, you have Puka over Debo, correct,

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I do Deebo over Pooka.

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And honestly, I'm considering moving above Jamar Chase. We'll

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 4>get to him later in the tight end discussion. But

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 4>the splits with t Higgins off the field are pretty crazy.

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You know me, I'm like, do it, do it.

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's just go for it. All right, let's jump into

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the wide receiver two. Here's only one guy to talk

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>about in the wide receiver one range. You guys know

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>what to do with those thirteen through twenty four. DeVante

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Adams comes in at thirteen, DeVonta Smith, Terry McLaurin, George Pickens, C. D.

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Lamb is pushed down there. That's definitely people just hedging.

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Brian Thomas tanked ol number twenty is Darnell Mooney, Josh

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Downs at twenty one, Lad McConkey, DeAndre Hopkins, and Khalil Shakir.

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>That is the matchup. By the way, twenty one wide

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:46.280
<v Speaker 1>receivers are given the A plus start and sit rating.

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.799
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot and because we grade them out, you

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>can go and look on the Fantasy Ranks page. You

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>get the matchup. Rating overall, and then if it's an

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>A or B twenty one wide receivers with at least

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>an A minus or higher, and guess what number twenty

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 1>one is? Josh Downs. Guy that we're going to talk

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:09.919
<v Speaker 1>about here, Josh Downs. It was a disappointment last week

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>in the Joe Flacco taking over for Anthony Richardson world

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>because expectations were absolutely sky high for Josh Downs because

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>he was going to eat now. He still was like

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:24.720
<v Speaker 1>the guy for Joe Flacco. But Flacco struggled. Pass rush

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 1>destroyed him. He had no ability to get away. I

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>mean he had one point four seconds to throw the ball.

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>It seemed like every single time, but in turn it

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>ended up affecting Josh Downs. And I think maybe even

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>like a Bilos situation fits you. You are lower than consensus, Jacob,

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you are higher, So this would be a good conversation.

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>But Fitz, let's start with you. You do have Downs still

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.840
<v Speaker 1>in the wide receiver two territory, but looks like he

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 1>is just holding on. Do you think Joe Flacco is

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>going to get back to that Joe Flacco we saw

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 1>earlier where everyone was like, please get him in the

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 1>lineup to make Josh Downs.

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 2>You know the guy good que question.

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm less optimistic about Joe Flacco than most people, I think,

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.720
<v Speaker 3>And man, it's funny. I had a poor week ranking

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 3>wide receivers last week, and that was with me sort

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:13.360
<v Speaker 3>of fading Josh Downs. And maybe if he had smashed

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 3>the way some people were expecting him too, I really

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 3>would have been in the basement with my wide receiver rankings.

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Downs does seem to have passed Michael Pittman Junior as

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 3>the primary target the Colts lead receiver. He's up against

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 3>the Bills this week, and yes, it is easier to

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 3>attack the Bills from the slot than it is with

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:35.399
<v Speaker 3>your outside receivers, who the Bills have been pretty much

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 3>blanketing this season. I just want to see more from Downs.

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:41.439
<v Speaker 3>I want to see more touchdowns. I want to see

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 3>more big yardage games. I'm just not ready to rank

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.720
<v Speaker 3>him as a set it and forget it top twenty

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:47.320
<v Speaker 3>wide receiver.

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Every week.

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting closer because those weekly target totals have been

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 3>pretty consistent when he is playing with Joe Flacco, and honestly,

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 3>even when he was playing with Anthony Richardson. At the

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 3>end there it seemed like Downs had become the lead

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 3>receiver for the So I'm warming up, but I'm not

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 3>quite ready to meet ECR.

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Just yet, Jacob, you are beating ECR. You've got him

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:11.800
<v Speaker 1>at seventeen. Was last week a little bit more of

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>an outlier than anything else aspect, not just with Flaco

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>but with Josh Downs.

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean the Colts three in the fewest plays

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 4>of any offense last week, so you could call it

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 4>an outlier. And even still twelve PPR points. You know

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 4>that's not bad at a wide receiver position that has

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 4>been pretty bren this year. That's his lowest total in

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:32.320
<v Speaker 4>four games with Flaco. The other ones he had twenty

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 4>sixteen and twenty PPR points. I just I think Josh

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 4>Downs is an insanely good player and fun player. He's

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 4>maybe my favorite even in the NFL. So I am

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 4>a little bit biased, but the numbers back it up.

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.320
<v Speaker 4>This is on a per route basis, and it's important

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 4>to note that he's only running about two thirds of

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 4>the routes because he only plays in three receiver sets.

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 4>But I think we'll see a lot of three receiver

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 4>sets if the Colts are losing, which they're expected to

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 4>be losing. Against the Bills here, but on a per

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 4>route basis, Josh Downs when Anthony Richardson's not on the

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 4>field is wide receiver one in targets per out run,

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 4>wide receiver one in first downs per out run, wide

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 4>receiver six in yards per out run, wide receiver two

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 4>in PPR points per out run. He's really, really, really good.

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 4>And that's with one play where if look to me,

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 4>like he scored a touchdown and he got called back.

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 4>If he had that, he'd probably went wide receiver one

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 4>and PPR points spar out run. The matchup is there.

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 4>I will say, like the culture only applied for twenty

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 4>one points this week. So the only teams with a

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 4>lower imply total are the Panthers, Cowboys, Broncos, Patriots, and Titans.

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 4>So Vegas is kind of on Pat's side here with

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of hesitancy about what we've seen with

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 4>Joe Flacco. So keep that in mind, just a little

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 4>cold water to temper expectations. With all the goodness that

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 4>I have threw out about Josh Downs.

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 1>One thing I'll say too is when we look at

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the ranks, I feel like I'm always interested in like

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 1>where that line is, Like, oh, this is where the

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:50.799
<v Speaker 1>questions start because obviously we're in like wide receiver ones

0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:53.399
<v Speaker 1>and twos and there's not a ton of like real

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 1>quite like are you gonna sit Terry McLaurin unless you

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 1>play in a two wide receiver ten man league and

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you've got amazing options. But I think the questions start

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:04.880
<v Speaker 1>right around twenty. Darnell Mooney's at twenty. I love Darnell

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Mooney right now. Fifty two percent first read percentage from

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>last week ridiculous, But I feel like the questions start here.

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>And one, I just want to ask you guys, because

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not looking at your physical ranks here. DeAndre Hopkins

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:19.799
<v Speaker 1>went off last week and really looks to be in

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 1>favor with the Chiefs. DeAndre Hopkins or Josh Downs Jacob,

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 1>let's start with you for this week.

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 4>I have Downs higher because I think he is a

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 4>little bit safer. His median projection is much higher than Hopkins.

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 4>But if you're looking only for upside, I'm glad you

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:36.240
<v Speaker 4>brought this up because there's the receivers who immediately follow

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 4>Downs to my rankings are George Pickens, Darnagh Mooney, Tank Dell,

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 4>Jaalen Waddo, DeAndre Hopkins, Marvin Harrison Junior, Brian Thomas Junior.

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 4>Basically all of those guys have a much higher ceiling

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 4>projection than Downs. Mooney is the one guy who's about

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 4>the same in terms of their range of outcomes. All

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 4>the other guys are like much more boom bust players

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 4>with a really high ceiling. So it's kind of like,

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 4>what type of profile are you looking for if you

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:58.760
<v Speaker 4>want more of a boom bus guy. I think Hopkins

0:47:58.800 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 4>it definitely makes sense over Downs.

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. That's actually something that comes up

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>we get. I mean, we are just you know, we're

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 1>littered with questions throughout the entire week, and sometimes the

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 1>only context we can't answer with someone is like are

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 1>you looking for upside? Are you looking for safety? Because

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it really is a real thing about just having

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 1>like a safety net of points that that does play

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 1>a role, and it might play a role into this range.

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>But you can comment on that. But DeAndre Hopkins or

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Josh Downs this week?

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I do have Hopkins ranked higher. But

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Jacob does make a good point, like if I were

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:32.280
<v Speaker 3>playing in a ten team PPR league and I actually

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 3>had to make that choice, maybe if I was a

0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 3>ten point favorite. I'd go toward downs even though I

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:40.360
<v Speaker 3>have Hopkins ranked higher, because I do think that target

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 3>and catch floor is safer. But I'm pretty much in

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 3>on Hopkins. I mean, nine targets, eight catches, eighty six yards,

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 3>two touchdowns against the Buccaneers on Monday night, and it

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:55.399
<v Speaker 3>seems like Hopkins has already established himself as the number

0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 3>one receiver on the Chiefs, and that connection with Patrick

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes is only going to get strong. I realized the

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Broncos this week are kind of a difficult matchup, and

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 3>maybe Hopkins does see some of Patrick certain Junior. I

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:08.839
<v Speaker 3>still want to be bullish on Hopkins, though.

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:11.279
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm gonna throw a curveball at you. This

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>is what, by the way, I asked that DeAndre Hopkins question,

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 1>not even realizing on our sheet we had DeAndre Hopkins here.

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw one more little Yeah. It was a

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 1>natural segue that I just did, and I wasn't even looking.

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:24.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw this is the curveball here because it's

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 1>not prepared. So we'll go to Pat first, and I'm

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna do kind of the same thing, because, like I said,

0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I think this is like a really good range where

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like a lot of questions are gonna be

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:36.280
<v Speaker 1>centered around this, like wide receiver twenties to twenty fours

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:40.719
<v Speaker 1>in the same range Darnell Mooney or Khalil Shakir for

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>this week, And do you think if whichever one you pick,

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>do you think there is a tear difference? Mooney is

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 1>at twenty Shakira is at twenty four. Shakira has been

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a dominant force, especially with Amari Cooper out, Keon Coleman

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 1>banged up. Shakira is given a better overall matchup a

0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 1>four star rating versus darn Mooney's three star rating. So

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 1>pat Darnell Mooney or Khalil Shakir.

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 3>So the health of what maybe we should consider to

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:11.320
<v Speaker 3>be the lead receivers for each team makes a difference,

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 3>because I think there's probably a better chance that Marii

0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Cooper plays this week than there is of Drake London

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:20.239
<v Speaker 3>playing this week. But say Drake London were to play

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 3>and Amari Cooper were to not play, then I would

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 3>put Shakir over Darnell Mooney. But as of as of now,

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 3>I would play Mooney, and I think he's probably a

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 3>tier higher for.

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Me Okay, so that's good. I wanted to know the

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:34.880
<v Speaker 1>tier higher. Jacobs, same question, Khalil Shakiir, Darnel Mooney, you

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>did tell us. I think you said Darnel Mooney. It's

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:38.799
<v Speaker 1>like eighteen, like somewhere right in that range. I didn't

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 1>hear you say Shakiir. So if it is Mooney, is

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 1>this like a tier above Shakir?

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:46.880
<v Speaker 4>I think they're basically the same tier. Jakir's at the

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 4>bottom of the tier. I was a little bit disappointed

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 4>to see Shakir's role scaled back, but the Bills seem

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 4>insistent on doing that to him over and over and over,

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 4>even though he's been one of the most productive receivers

0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:00.080
<v Speaker 4>in the NFL. He was third on the team and

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 4>routes around last week. I'd like to target Shakir. When

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 4>the Bills are playing defenses to play a lot of

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 4>two high safety looks so they can just pepper in

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 4>with underneath stuff. And that's not what we're seeing against

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 4>the Cults. They use a ton of Cover three, which

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 4>is a single high safety zone coverage that typically lead

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 4>to a lot of targets that they have Perimeter receivers.

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, love it, wide receiver too, some big questions in there.

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:24.440
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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Addison, Jalen Waddle put a pin in that Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Juwan Jennings So I mentioned at thirty three Jamison Williams

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<v Speaker 1>is back, Xavier Liget and Michael Pittman. At thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>Oki Dook. Let's jump into Jaalen Waddle. That was our

0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 1>tease for earlier in the show. This is I joked

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:48.600
<v Speaker 1>with Pat before the show. I said I needed the

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 1>graphics team to put a graphic of me and ericson

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<v Speaker 1>on the sinking Titanic as the band that refuses to

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 1>get off like we Me and him have just been

0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 1>oh bo all the guy. I think a Chan was

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a win. By the way, we were right about buying

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a Chan on the cheap if you got the Tyreek

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Hill was what I was beating the drum about early

0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 1>early on. It hasn't been great, but still good. Jalen

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Waddle has not worked, it has been bad, and this

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>past week was not great. Wide Receiver thirty. This is

0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:22.239
<v Speaker 1>an absolute breaking point for people after the last two

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.800
<v Speaker 1>weeks with Tua that he has not done well. Fitz,

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:26.319
<v Speaker 1>you've got him at twenty eight actually a little bit

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.279
<v Speaker 1>higher than ECR Oh, but mister Jacob Gibb, you got

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 1>him at twenty one, baby, you got him as a

0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver too. So please wax poetically on Jalen Waddle

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:37.479
<v Speaker 1>and how this is going to bounce back.

0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:40.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm right there on the ship with you, and

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 4>my listeners at FFT have been really frustrated. People are

0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:47.319
<v Speaker 4>talking about dropping Jalen Wattle and everything. Let's zoom out

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:49.319
<v Speaker 4>a little bit. I know we live in a like

0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:51.960
<v Speaker 4>what have you done formulalately world here in the fantasy

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 4>football space. Let's zoom out for a little bit, and

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 4>remember who we were talking about. We were talking about

0:53:57.640 --> 0:54:00.399
<v Speaker 4>the wide receiver with the highest career yard per run

0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 4>rate at the collegiate level of any wide receiver drafted

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:07.040
<v Speaker 4>over the past five years. So that's higher than the

0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:10.919
<v Speaker 4>legendary Pukunukua or Jackson Smith a jigba rates. That's higher

0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.120
<v Speaker 4>than Devonte Smith. Some consider him the best collegiate wide

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:15.799
<v Speaker 4>receiver of all time, higher than Ceede. Lamb, higher than

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:20.280
<v Speaker 4>Jamar Chase. Awesome, awesome collegiate players. Number one, Jalen Waddle,

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.760
<v Speaker 4>he was then drafted sixth overall, gave us a thousand

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<v Speaker 4>yards as a rookie. He's never had a season with

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<v Speaker 4>fewer than a thousand yards. It's now twenty twenty four

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:31.400
<v Speaker 4>and he's on pace for six hundred and sixty yards

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<v Speaker 4>and people are freaking out, which I mean, it makes sense.

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:37.480
<v Speaker 4>It has been really frustrating, but I do think it's

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:40.799
<v Speaker 4>important to first remember who we're talking about here. It's

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:44.240
<v Speaker 4>easy to lose sight of who the player is when we're,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, micro analyzing things. He's played eight games, four

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<v Speaker 4>with that Tua. The Dolphins were I think, really the

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<v Speaker 4>least functional offense that we've seen for an extended period

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:58.279
<v Speaker 4>of time of any team this year during that time,

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm honestly ready to throw those games completely out.

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<v Speaker 4>Even in the four games with Tua, it has not

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<v Speaker 4>been good and people are really frustrated, and I get that.

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<v Speaker 4>So now we're going to zoom in on those four games.

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<v Speaker 4>Two of those four games came against the Bills, one

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<v Speaker 4>was against the Cardinals. Those are really unique matchups. Arizona's

0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:23.120
<v Speaker 4>opponent first read target rate is only sixty three percent.

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<v Speaker 4>That's by far the lowest in the NFL. The next

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<v Speaker 4>lowest is sixty seven percent. The league averages seventy two

0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 4>percent this is per fantasy points data. So the Cardinals

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 4>don't allow offenses to do what they would like to do.

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 4>The Cardinals dictate what offenses do. They invite offenses to

0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 4>target running backs. They invite offenses to target tight ends

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:46.240
<v Speaker 4>and beat them with short plays, runs and short passes.

0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 4>The Cardinals stack the box at the lowest rate in

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL. They really are just like a hands off defense.

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 4>The Bills literally have the highest opponent running back target

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<v Speaker 4>rate in the NFL and the lowest opponent wide receiver

0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:01.200
<v Speaker 4>target rate in the NFL. Mcdermot's defense is what we've

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<v Speaker 4>seen for a long time. In twenty twenty three, they

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<v Speaker 4>had the third lowest opponent wide receiver target rate in

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL the sixth lowest opponent first read target rate

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<v Speaker 4>for the Bills defenses. So these are two defenses that

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<v Speaker 4>are not normal matchups, and they make up seventy five

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<v Speaker 4>percent of the sample size for Jalen Wadle with Tua

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty four. In the other game, Watta win

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<v Speaker 4>for one hundred and nine yards. I think it's entirely

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:26.439
<v Speaker 4>possible that we are like dramatically overreacting to a small

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 4>sample size here four games, eight games is miniscool and

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 4>the grand scheme of things, we have so much more

0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:35.800
<v Speaker 4>data to suggests the Watto is like really a spectacular player.

0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:40.279
<v Speaker 4>What can we expect this week? I certainly don't know,

0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:42.279
<v Speaker 4>like the Dolphins have been all over the place, but

0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 4>like what I do know is the Rams have the

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<v Speaker 4>fourth highest opponent wide receiver target rate, so it's much

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 4>different than the defenses we just talked about. The other

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:52.400
<v Speaker 4>thing is this game has the highest over under of

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<v Speaker 4>any being played in Week ten, so Vegas is expecting

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 4>a shootout. And we just saw the Rams secondary look

0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:00.920
<v Speaker 4>really easy to pick on. Jack and Smith and Jigba

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:02.719
<v Speaker 4>could have had two hundred fifty yards if not for

0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:06.480
<v Speaker 4>penalties against this defense last week. And really, on top

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:08.320
<v Speaker 4>of that, there's a whole lot of schematic notes I

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:11.000
<v Speaker 4>could give you. I do think, specifically for Jalen while

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:13.399
<v Speaker 4>this matchup sets really well, But we have a bunch

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 4>of players to discuss today. So for the sake of brevity,

0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:18.680
<v Speaker 4>which is hilarious to say, after talking for three minutes

0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 4>about this, I'll just say google f FT Newsletter or

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:23.800
<v Speaker 4>google Jacob Gibbs newsletter and you'll find my free newsletter.

0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 4>Are right, every Wednesday Thursday, I do advanced matchups, and

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 4>I'll of course be focused on Jalen model this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of the things I would throw up Pat

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<v Speaker 1>on the jail because I want to believe because I

0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of agree with the totality of what Jacob's saying

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 1>in that, like, you know, we are hyper focused on

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 1>like a very very small sample size of being like,

0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:44.200
<v Speaker 1>oh well, he's just washed and done when it has

0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:48.360
<v Speaker 1>traditionally been really good. My only problem with this in

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:54.160
<v Speaker 1>general has been offensive scheme with the Dolphins looks off

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 1>this year. Like I don't know how many games you

0:57:57.520 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 1>watch where you're like, okay, Dolphins and then it's just run,

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:02.400
<v Speaker 1>run and run, runner and run. They're running more, they

0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:04.600
<v Speaker 1>feel it looks like they feel less comfortable throwing the

0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 1>ball deep, even though they've got, you know, such one

0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 1>of the best deep ball players probably the NFL history,

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:12.280
<v Speaker 1>and Tyreek Hill like it. It feels from an offensive

0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:15.280
<v Speaker 1>scheme standpoint that something is off. And I think that's

0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the thing that's sticking in my crawl a little bit

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:20.720
<v Speaker 1>more than like Jalen Wattle is not good. Pat. You've

0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 1>got him about ECR maybe slightly higher. He's like a

0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:26.200
<v Speaker 1>mid flex to you, what do you want to add

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 1>or what do you want to throw in about Jalen Wattle.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, if getting the ball into the hands

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:33.240
<v Speaker 3>of Devon ah Chen means the offense looks off, well shift,

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:34.919
<v Speaker 3>If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I agree with what you're saying, but you

0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:40.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm getting at, Like Chan should get the

0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:43.000
<v Speaker 1>ball four million times, but I'm saying it's just run, run, run,

0:58:43.080 --> 0:58:45.960
<v Speaker 1>short passes, Like what happened to that Dolphins team that

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 1>was slinging the ball and huge plays and Wattles getting

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 1>ten catches down the middle. That that team isn't here

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 1>this show.

0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I hear you, But we we do have to expunge

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:57.960
<v Speaker 3>all data where we had either Skylar Thompson or Tyler

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Huntley at quarterback for the Dolphins. So like drilling down

0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:03.720
<v Speaker 3>on the Tua thing, and Jacob makes the point that

0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:07.120
<v Speaker 3>those a couple of those matchups that To or that

0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 3>well To and Wattle have had have not been ideal

0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:14.440
<v Speaker 3>for outside wide receivers. So yeah, to me, it's just

0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 3>if Tua is healthy, you are starting Waddle unless the

0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 3>matchup is exceptionally putrid, and that is certainly not the

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:24.600
<v Speaker 3>case with the Rams. As Jacob pointed out, you know,

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:27.280
<v Speaker 3>they've given up the eighth most fantasy points to wide receivers,

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:30.600
<v Speaker 3>so by all means, lean into Jalen Waddle this week.

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 3>And how great is it that last week one minute

0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 3>there was concern that Wattle had just torn his achilles,

0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:39.200
<v Speaker 3>and the next minute he is catching his first touchdown

0:59:39.360 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 3>pass of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Season, saving the day too. You know, interesting you say

0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you are playing him. One name that might kind of

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>throw people off as a guy that could end up

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:51.920
<v Speaker 1>being started over him in some instances is the guy

0:59:51.960 --> 0:59:55.280
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned earlier, Juwan Jennings. I threw Juwan Jennings out.

0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:57.880
<v Speaker 1>We didn't really sit and talk about him. He's ECR

0:59:58.000 --> 1:00:01.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty three, bitch. You do have him at thirty, so

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<v Speaker 1>you've got him right there. Let me save the Jacob

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<v Speaker 1>ranking here. We'll do that here in a second. But

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want to throw out about Jennings? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Jennings is in the same territory as Wattle?

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'd prefer to start Waddle, But like Jennings,

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<v Speaker 3>what we've seen so far has been good. He obviously

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<v Speaker 3>had that one smash game where everyone was expecting, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Ayuk to go off when Diebo was out of the lineup,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was Juwan Jennings day one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 3>five yards, three touchdowns. So far, Jennings has only drawn

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<v Speaker 3>thirty six targets this season, but he's averaging eleven point

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<v Speaker 3>two yards per target, two point seven five yards per

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<v Speaker 3>route run, has an average depth of target of twelve

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<v Speaker 3>point three yards. So Jennings is going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>primary downfield receiver for Brock Perdy, who, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>has been cooking. So yeah, I mean, I feel pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good about starting Jennings this.

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<v Speaker 1>Week, as do I and as does Jacob, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is where the fun rank is. Jacob, you were talking

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<v Speaker 1>a ton about Debo, but what got buried when I

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<v Speaker 1>gave my little thing about Juwan Jennings was also your rank.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got him sixteen, so you've got essentially him taking

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<v Speaker 1>over that Ayuk role. And that's kind of what I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about when ayug injury went down, is like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate chance that Deebo goes back into his role

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<v Speaker 1>and that Juwan Jennings takes over that Auk role. So

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<v Speaker 1>what else do you want to add because you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to really talk about Jennings.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, only three wide receivers are averaging more yards per

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<v Speaker 4>out run than Juwan Jennings this year. Nico Collins, A J. Brown,

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<v Speaker 4>Justin Jefferson. Even if you take away that insane game

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<v Speaker 4>against the Rams, he's still averaging over two yards per

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<v Speaker 4>out run on the year. He's been really really good

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<v Speaker 4>all year, not just one game. If you look at

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<v Speaker 4>his career without Brandon Ayuk on the field, he's averaging

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<v Speaker 4>two point eight yards per out run. That's exactly what

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<v Speaker 4>he's averaging this year, and only I think fifteen of

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<v Speaker 4>those routes came this year, So it's not like his

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<v Speaker 4>phenomenal play this year is really influencing that data that

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<v Speaker 4>I just gave for his career. I think it's possible

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<v Speaker 4>that he's a really good player who's just been kind

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<v Speaker 4>of hidden because the Niners have a lot of really

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<v Speaker 4>good players. Anytime that they've needed him to make plays

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<v Speaker 4>third and Juwan has come up big for them, and

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<v Speaker 4>now they really do need him, and I think he

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<v Speaker 4>might just keep coming up big. We'll see how healthy

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<v Speaker 4>he is. But if he's healthy, everything looks good for

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<v Speaker 4>San Fran This week they're playing a Bucks team that

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<v Speaker 4>offenses have chosen to pass against. I brought up a

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<v Speaker 4>pass right over expectation earlier in reference to like run

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<v Speaker 4>heavy defenses. The Bucks I think have the third or

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<v Speaker 4>fourth highest the fifth highest opponent pass right over expectation. So,

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<v Speaker 4>all things equal, teams choose to pass even when you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe think they would be expected to run. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I do think we'll see a potentially a huge game

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<v Speaker 4>for Juwan here. I'm curious how Ricky Piersall will affect things.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you guys have any do you have any takes

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<v Speaker 4>on how much your player or be involved here.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's playable for fantasy, like I think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the third receiver for the forty nine Ers

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<v Speaker 3>tends to be less valuable than on other teams just

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<v Speaker 3>because they like to play Kyle Buscheck so much.

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<v Speaker 1>H and Christian McCaffrey and Kittle. I mean, he is,

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<v Speaker 1>at best best the fifth option on that team. Possibilities,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in through wide receiver sets, there's definitely possibilities

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<v Speaker 1>that he could do a little something. But not being

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<v Speaker 1>playable I think is the most important thing for what it's.

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<v Speaker 4>For what it's worth fantasy points datas average separation scorer

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<v Speaker 4>has Juwan Jennings is the clear wide receiver two behind

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<v Speaker 4>a Yuk, well ahead of Deebo Samuel, and he's been

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<v Speaker 4>much much better as a downfield route runner the Deebo

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<v Speaker 4>Samuel two. I do think it makes sense he'll kind

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<v Speaker 4>of step into that. Iukrol if anybody's going to two

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<v Speaker 4>last ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do some quick hitters here. Xavier Leget wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five, Jacob, you have got him at thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>fits he is outside of the top thirty six wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers for you, Fitz. Let's get a take on Xavier Leget.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he scored touchdowns in three of his last

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<v Speaker 3>four games, and he is just a beast after the catch,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I love what a physical marvel he is and

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<v Speaker 3>has the ball in his hands. I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 3>a very polished route runner. And I do wonder if

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<v Speaker 3>we do see Adam Thielen back in Germany this week,

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<v Speaker 3>and if we do see Adam Thielen back, if Bryce

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<v Speaker 3>Young goes back to leaning on Adam Thielen the way

1:04:05.520 --> 1:04:08.000
<v Speaker 3>he did for much of his rookie season, because Adam

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<v Speaker 3>Thielen is a polished route runner, whereas xavior League Get

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<v Speaker 3>really is not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you'd almost wonder too long term if they say

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do you a favor and release you

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<v Speaker 1>so you can go do something with a team that

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<v Speaker 1>can do something, because that's the problem is backing any

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<v Speaker 1>panther Jacob anything you want to add with lee Get.

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<v Speaker 4>He had his highest first retarget rate of his career

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<v Speaker 4>last week, so that's good to see him show some

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<v Speaker 4>ability to draw targets and be like trusted as the

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<v Speaker 4>top target in the offense. The other thing I'll throw

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<v Speaker 4>out is the Giants defense really struggled to get pressure

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<v Speaker 4>last week. They blit sixty percent of the time against

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<v Speaker 4>Washington and only got press for twenty percent of the time,

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<v Speaker 4>so that is weird. I think the defense maybe is

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<v Speaker 4>taken a step back as the year has gone on,

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<v Speaker 4>and Bryce has been playing pretty well, surprisingly well, so

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<v Speaker 4>I think you can feel cautiously optimistic about League Get here.

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<v Speaker 1>The last one we're going to do an outside the

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<v Speaker 1>top thirty six. It is a price check Quentin Johnston.

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<v Speaker 1>Price check ECR thirty nine fits you've got him at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six. Jacobyov At fifty one. This is a big discrepancy, Jacob.

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<v Speaker 1>You are like my dear friend Scott Bogman, where he

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<v Speaker 1>sees Quinton Johnson do something, he goes, I don't believe you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much every single time he doesn't trust it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you not trust it? Jacob?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to say it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not trying to hit on the guy, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think he's been the luckiest player, or at least the

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<v Speaker 4>luckiest wide receiver in the NFL this year. He had

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<v Speaker 4>sixty six yards in a touchdown on a broken play.

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<v Speaker 4>He had twenty six yards on the last play of

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<v Speaker 4>the game versus prevent defense where the try and lateral stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's seventeen PPR points on two really random plays.

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<v Speaker 4>He only had a sixty eight percent route rate, so

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<v Speaker 4>it's not like he's a full time player yet. I

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<v Speaker 4>think the offense really runs through that McConkey. The good

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<v Speaker 4>news is the charges are throwing a lot more and

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<v Speaker 4>so you know, maybe he does have a decent game.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm not taking what we saw last week. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>taking it with a big crative salt.

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<v Speaker 1>FITZI, you got a miss a starter in the wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver three. You have met thirty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, Johnston has not seen more than six

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<v Speaker 3>targets in any game this season. But and as Jacob mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>some of his yardage has been a little bit hokey.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe we should take his fifteen points seven yards

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<v Speaker 3>per catch and ten point four yards per target with

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<v Speaker 3>a grain of salt. But what I do find encouraging

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<v Speaker 3>After catching fifty six points seven percent of his targets

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<v Speaker 3>last year, he's up to sixty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Point seven this year.

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<v Speaker 3>We have not seen the paddle hands that we saw

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<v Speaker 3>last year, the frying pain hands like he's actually bringing

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<v Speaker 3>the ball in, and the real appeal. Big plays four

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<v Speaker 3>touchdowns in six games, and he is athletic and a big,

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous man with the ball in his hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Gentlemen, let's talk about some quarterback ranks for the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Our big board number one, of course, Lamar Jackson, Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Hurts at number two, Josh and Joe Burrow, Jayden Daniels

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<v Speaker 1>back in that top five, Brock Purty at six, Sam Donald,

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<v Speaker 1>kirk Cousins, Patrick Mahomes, Matt Stafford Baker Mayfield and Tua

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<v Speaker 1>at twelve. Let me ask you an off scripted question,

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<v Speaker 1>real quick pat of that top twelve, where is the

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<v Speaker 1>least trust of any of those starting twelve quarterbacks? I

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<v Speaker 1>see a couple different tiers in there, you know, like tier.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there might be a Lamar Jackson his own tier,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there might be this open up tier that

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<v Speaker 1>goes to Purty, and then maybe maybe Purty is in

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<v Speaker 1>the Donald Cousins range. I'm kind of I'm verbally saying

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<v Speaker 1>all of this, but like, if of the top twelve quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>is there one that you think just stands out like

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<v Speaker 1>a sore thumb that you really are not trusting?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I've got Baker Mayfield ranked outside QB

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<v Speaker 3>one territory. I just Mayfield has played so well and

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<v Speaker 3>Liam Cohen has done an amazing job designing the Buccaneers

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<v Speaker 3>offense and making it functional without Mike Evans and Chris Godwin.

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<v Speaker 3>But ultimately Baker doesn't have Mike Evans or Chris Godwin,

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<v Speaker 3>and he is relying on you know, cad Otten and

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<v Speaker 3>Rashad White and Bucky Irving to be the engines of

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<v Speaker 3>this offense, a little Sterling Shepherd and Trey Palmer mixed in,

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<v Speaker 3>so didn't even have Jalen McMillan in week nine. So

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<v Speaker 3>lack of weaponry is why I'm a little hesitant on

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<v Speaker 3>Baker this week.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I asked the question, it's probably Jacob. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably pointing fingers that maybe like Stafford or Baker or

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<v Speaker 1>Baker or Tua. I mean, if you know you were

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<v Speaker 1>there with with Mahomes, you know, don't break the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like those three are the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of pointing out when I say that. So

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<v Speaker 1>the same question to you, is there somebody that stands out?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Baker or maybe is it somebody else?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's Baker. Seven point three percent touchdown ray for

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<v Speaker 4>him is just seems like it's got to regress, and

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<v Speaker 4>like a natural regression spot is here with his receivers out.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's kind of what we're going to see.

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<v Speaker 4>We saw it a bit last week, and we've seen

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<v Speaker 4>it just reflected in where the biggest expectations are for

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<v Speaker 4>this team each week. Twenty two and a half point

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<v Speaker 4>over under for the Bucks in this game. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it was at like nineteen last week against the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 4>They could continue to exceed that. You know, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>game that could turn into a shootout. Second highest implied

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<v Speaker 4>point total of the week here against San Francisco. But

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<v Speaker 4>like I brought up on the Receiver Show, we've got

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<v Speaker 4>around the running Back Show with Bucky Irving, We've got

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<v Speaker 4>the Bucks coming off a short week arrest, the Niners

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<v Speaker 4>coming off thereby. So I just don't love the spot here.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple quarterbacks that are outside of the top twelve then,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, there's a lot of chalk in there,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys that maybe aren't posing big questions.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some and Daniel Jones is one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>He in the ECR of sixteen. Not on the board here,

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob's got you got him at eighteen, you got him lower.

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<v Speaker 1>But FITZI, this is one of those spots. He actually

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<v Speaker 1>takes the Baker Mayfield spot for you. So, Fitz, let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with you. Daniel Jones QB one this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Jones has all of his pass cashers healthy and

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<v Speaker 3>has a terrific matchup against the Panthers. Carolina has the

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<v Speaker 3>second worst opponent passer rating in the league. They're giving

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<v Speaker 3>up eight yards per pass attempt and they've allowed eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>touchdown passes, tied four third most in the league. And

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<v Speaker 3>Jones adds value as a runner, like I'm starting him

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<v Speaker 3>in a couple of super flex leagues and including the

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<v Speaker 3>Scott Fish Ball this week, and I feel perfectly fine

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<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob, your thoughts here on Daniel Jones as he is

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the ECR range for you almost, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still in the flex range for you at eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but not in single quarterback. What does your take on

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones?

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<v Speaker 4>I could be too low on him, for sure, because

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<v Speaker 4>the Giants have maybe the highest imply total they've had

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<v Speaker 4>all year twenty three and a half. Vegas really does

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<v Speaker 4>not give Carolina's defense any respect at all, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think that makes sense. My hope here is the and

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<v Speaker 4>this may truly just be hope because I'm so invested

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<v Speaker 4>in Tyrone Tracy's success. I think we might see the

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<v Speaker 4>Giants really on the ground game here. I think they

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<v Speaker 4>know what they've got with Daniel Jones and don't probably

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<v Speaker 4>want to push it a whole lot and set themselves

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<v Speaker 4>up for more opportunities to be embarrassed, and might just

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<v Speaker 4>lean on their awesome rookie, which they've done at times

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<v Speaker 4>this year, and I think they'll be able to do

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<v Speaker 4>successfully against Carolina. They are heavy favorites favored by almost

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<v Speaker 4>a touchdown against the Panthers. The running hasn't been quite

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<v Speaker 4>as high as I would like for Daniel Jones, so

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<v Speaker 4>I think it makes sense to have him higher than

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<v Speaker 4>I do have him, But personally, I just don't. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want any exposure to the potential ten points that

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<v Speaker 4>I might get from Daniel Jones. There's a number of

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<v Speaker 4>guys that I feel a little more confident in.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrone Tracy is the thing focus there that's hidden in there,

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<v Speaker 1>not about Daniel Jones. Justin Herbert is another interesting one.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to kind of point back to Fisk. What

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<v Speaker 1>We'll start with Jacob here, Justin Herbert QB seventeen. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys both have him higher than ECR P Jaco. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with you've got him at fifteen, not a ton

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<v Speaker 1>if maybe your deeper league single quarterback here. Give us

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<v Speaker 1>your take on Herbert.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I need to be higher. I think I saw

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<v Speaker 4>Fitzi's rank and I was psyched to see it. Usin

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<v Speaker 4>Herbert's been playing so well this year and we're finally

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<v Speaker 4>seeing it turn around. I think luck has not been

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<v Speaker 4>doing him any favors in terms of like converting touchdowns

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff like that. But he has been finding the

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<v Speaker 4>INZ one lately and the Chargers are throwing a lot more.

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<v Speaker 4>Three straight weeks, the Chargers have had a positive pass

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<v Speaker 4>rate over expectation. The PROE for LA over the past

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<v Speaker 4>three weeks would rank fourth over the course of the

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<v Speaker 4>full season for some reference as to just how past

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<v Speaker 4>heavy they've been. And I don't think that's necessarily random.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that does time up with their bye week

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<v Speaker 4>in week five, and just with how well Herbert's playing,

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<v Speaker 4>how well Lad McConkie is playing. So yeah, it's an

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<v Speaker 4>exciting time to roster Herbert, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is that rank that got Jacob so excited?

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<v Speaker 1>From fits eight QB eight for you, FITZI this week

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<v Speaker 1>on Herbert.

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<v Speaker 3>I might be as far out over my skis on

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<v Speaker 3>Justin Herbert as I was with my Jameis Winston ranking

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<v Speaker 3>last week.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but we have.

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<v Speaker 3>Seen a pretty sea change out of this offense. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>for the first four games, Justin Herbert was averaging one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and forty four point five passing yards a game,

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<v Speaker 3>and since the start of October, so going back more

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<v Speaker 3>than a month, thirty three passing attempts per game two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and eighty six point eight passing yards per game.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to think that Greg Roman has turned

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<v Speaker 3>into Don Coriel here as far as a play caller,

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<v Speaker 3>but Herbert wasn't totally healthy early in the season, like

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<v Speaker 3>he had that plantar fascitis, so maybe Greg Roman was

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<v Speaker 3>protecting him a little bit with the play calling and

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<v Speaker 3>now feels like the gloves are off and he is

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<v Speaker 3>ready to unleash Herbert. And I don't totally hate the

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<v Speaker 3>matchup against the Titans. It's kind of a middling matchup

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<v Speaker 3>like that. Pass defense was tougher earlier in the season

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<v Speaker 3>than it's been lately, so wheels up for Justin.

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<v Speaker 4>Herbert and offenses have really started passing more against the

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<v Speaker 4>Titans and avoiding running. I think specifically because the times

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<v Speaker 4>have been really really tough against the run, so passwad

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<v Speaker 4>over expectation on defense. The Titans are top twelve, meaning

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<v Speaker 4>teams have passed more against them, and over the past

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<v Speaker 4>three weeks their top five, so I think even if

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<v Speaker 4>the Chargers are winning, you still might see them pass

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more, which is what we saw last

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<v Speaker 4>week too with the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 1>The last quarterback that we'll talk about we gave Fitzi

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<v Speaker 1>the feature here of the high rank. Well, Jacob, you

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<v Speaker 1>get the high rank on Drake May this week. ECR

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty three. Jacob's got him at fourteen fits. You

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<v Speaker 1>got him at twenty two fits. Let's get your quick

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<v Speaker 1>take on Drake May, who has been running around making

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<v Speaker 1>things happen. You've got him barely on that super flex range.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything you want to add before we get Jacob's hot

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<v Speaker 1>take on Drake May.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just very pro Drake May, and I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 3>see Jacob high on him. And part of it is

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<v Speaker 3>that the Bears have a lot of the fewest fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>points to quarterbacks. But again, maybe the Bears are collapsing

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<v Speaker 3>a bit and that shouldn't be the concern that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it was when I did my quarterback rankings.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob fourteen. I mean you almost want to just push

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<v Speaker 1>twelve just to make the statements sometimes. But you got

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<v Speaker 1>him at a good range. What say you on Drake May?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the Bears are a tough matchup for sure, but

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<v Speaker 4>I think Montees is supposed to be out again, and

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<v Speaker 4>I do think that matters a lot Drake May. He

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<v Speaker 4>has been running around for sure. He is fourth in

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<v Speaker 4>rushing fantasy points scored per quarter in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 4>behind only Jalen Hurts, justin fields and Jane Daniels, ahead

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<v Speaker 4>of Lamar Jackson, ahead of Anthony richards and Kyler Murray.

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<v Speaker 4>He is second on the year in scramble rate. Only

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<v Speaker 4>Jane Daniels has scrambled on a higher percentage of his

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<v Speaker 4>dropbacks and Drake May. Drake May is first and avoided

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<v Speaker 4>tackles per rush, first and first downs perush, first in

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<v Speaker 4>yards per rush. So he's been very, very dangerous as

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<v Speaker 4>a rusher, which was expected. That's what he was in college.

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<v Speaker 4>He scrambled more in college than Lamar Jackson. He scrambled

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<v Speaker 4>more than Anthony Richardson. I don't think people realize that

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<v Speaker 4>he's been as advertised as a rusher, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>he's been better as a passer than expected. There have

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<v Speaker 4>been some scary throws you know it's gonna happen with

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<v Speaker 4>a rookie for or even last week, there were some

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<v Speaker 4>of those, and we saw the interception in the game

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<v Speaker 4>last week. But overall, I think he's really impressed me

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<v Speaker 4>as a passer on throws that have traveled ten yards

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<v Speaker 4>past the line of scrimmage. May ranks eighth among thirty

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<v Speaker 4>nine qualified quarterbacks in catchable ball rate that's per Fantasy

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<v Speaker 4>Points data, ranks eighth out of thirty nine. Jayden ranks first.

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<v Speaker 4>Jane Daniels and I'm just giving you other rookie quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 4>for reference here. Caleb Williams is dead last, thirty ninth.

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<v Speaker 4>Bnix is thirty seventh. So a top ten ranking for

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<v Speaker 4>May is really encouraging. If you look at the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of the top ten, it's a bunch of really really

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<v Speaker 4>good quarterbacks. I think this is a really good stat

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<v Speaker 4>He also ranks top ten in highly accurate target on

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<v Speaker 4>such throws, so not only catchup balls but also putting

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<v Speaker 4>it right on the money sometimes. We saw that last

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<v Speaker 4>week with that amazing throw to Damario Douglas on the

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<v Speaker 4>right sideline. Like, I think he's played really, really well.

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<v Speaker 4>He looks to me like a near elite fantasy quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>Fantasy quarterback, that's important to bring that up. But with

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<v Speaker 4>the rushing like it's pretty With all that said, again,

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen point implied total for New England this week, So

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<v Speaker 4>don't get carried away here, but it is exciting for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Some good options at quarterback. If you're looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit deeper, let's look at the tight end ranks

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<v Speaker 1>on the big board. Going over to tight ends, George

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<v Speaker 1>Kittle leads the way at number one this week versus Tampa,

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Kelsey, Trade McBride, Cade Atten, and Evan Ingram. That's

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<v Speaker 1>your top five. Yes, No, brock powers by week. Kyle Pitts,

1:17:26.040 --> 1:17:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Dalton Kinkaid, Taysom Hill at eight, Mark Andrews at nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Kasicki at ten, Laporta and Hockinson. There's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a change here. Kasiki actually was eight about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours ago, has moved down to ten. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there is so much chalk up there, so many questions

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<v Speaker 1>that do not need to be asked about tight ends.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of Kate Atten ones are out there. He's

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<v Speaker 1>top five this week. Start him, Ingram, start him. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Pitts and kink don't feel as good, but do you

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<v Speaker 1>really have better options? Tiers start to change, So where

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<v Speaker 1>are the questions? Well, Mike Kasicki, we kind of know

1:17:58.600 --> 1:18:01.719
<v Speaker 1>why Taysom Hill is on here. It's all like touchdown equity,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know the amount of guys that they have

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<v Speaker 1>out there. They're getting more usage of him. But like

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Kisiki jumps up into people's faces at ten, Jacob,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got him at eleven fits, you've got him at eight,

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<v Speaker 1>So you are beating consensus ranks on here. So FITZI

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<v Speaker 1>give us something on Gasiki real quick as a top

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<v Speaker 1>eight tight end for week ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm trying not to be the mark who chases

1:18:21.880 --> 1:18:24.400
<v Speaker 3>last week's points. And he had that sexy stat line

1:18:24.439 --> 1:18:27.880
<v Speaker 3>with one hundred receiving yards and two touchdowns. But like

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<v Speaker 3>this ranking is based on the assumption that t Higgins

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<v Speaker 3>does not return from his quad injury this week. If

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<v Speaker 3>he does, I will downgrade Gasiki a bit. And we

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<v Speaker 3>also saw the Bengals lose eric Al, their rookie tight end,

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<v Speaker 3>to a torn acl last week, although the Bengals are

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<v Speaker 3>still probably gonna give some annoying tight end targets to

1:18:46.479 --> 1:18:50.839
<v Speaker 3>Drew Sample and Tanner Hudson. But like the target outlook

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<v Speaker 3>is pretty bright for Gasiki fourteen targets the last two weeks,

1:18:54.200 --> 1:18:57.800
<v Speaker 3>twelve catches with t Higgins out, I just think there's

1:18:57.840 --> 1:18:59.920
<v Speaker 3>a target void that needs to be filled, and get

1:19:00.479 --> 1:19:01.640
<v Speaker 3>is going to be part of filling it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob, what say you on Kasiki. In the Wide Receiver episode,

1:19:05.200 --> 1:19:07.120
<v Speaker 1>we had mentioned Jamar Chase and he came up for

1:19:07.120 --> 1:19:08.800
<v Speaker 1>a minute that we were going to talk about here.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got him as a tight end one. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the important thing, not necessarily picking on the rank,

1:19:13.560 --> 1:19:14.919
<v Speaker 1>But what say you about Kasiki?

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<v Speaker 4>For this week, I've been moving him up. I was

1:19:17.160 --> 1:19:20.160
<v Speaker 4>a bit hesitant to overreact to last week as well.

1:19:21.000 --> 1:19:23.680
<v Speaker 4>He only had a sixty percent route rate last week,

1:19:23.720 --> 1:19:25.960
<v Speaker 4>and so I looked at the role after the big

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<v Speaker 4>game and I was like, nothing's really changed. I don't

1:19:27.720 --> 1:19:30.200
<v Speaker 4>want to move him up too dramatically. But the more

1:19:30.240 --> 1:19:32.320
<v Speaker 4>I look into what he's done this year without t Higgins,

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<v Speaker 4>he's done it with just a fifty five percent route

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<v Speaker 4>rate and he's still been productive. So I don't know

1:19:36.960 --> 1:19:39.800
<v Speaker 4>if last week's usage really matters that much, And as

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<v Speaker 4>possible that the usage we could even better with eric

1:19:41.720 --> 1:19:44.439
<v Speaker 4>All out, and even if T Higgins comes back, it's

1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:46.880
<v Speaker 4>possible that I think we might see him play more

1:19:46.920 --> 1:19:48.479
<v Speaker 4>than he has in the past when Tiggans has been out,

1:19:48.479 --> 1:19:51.479
<v Speaker 4>because Eric All was playing about half of the snaps

1:19:51.560 --> 1:19:53.160
<v Speaker 4>by this point of the year and the Bengals use

1:19:53.200 --> 1:19:55.840
<v Speaker 4>a lot of two and three tight end sets. But

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<v Speaker 4>if Ti Higgins is out, here's what we've gotten four

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<v Speaker 4>games without T Higgins this YEARPR points sixty one for Gasiki,

1:20:02.120 --> 1:20:05.439
<v Speaker 4>fifty one for Jamar Chase, air yards two thirty nine

1:20:05.479 --> 1:20:09.559
<v Speaker 4>for Kasiki, one eighty two for Chase, what receiving yards

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<v Speaker 4>to eighty two for Gasiki, one ninety four for Chase.

1:20:12.000 --> 1:20:14.960
<v Speaker 4>It's a four game sample size and it's absolutely nuts. Uh.

1:20:15.120 --> 1:20:17.599
<v Speaker 4>The other thing is with in those games. In those

1:20:17.640 --> 1:20:20.880
<v Speaker 4>four games, Becasiki has a twenty four percent first read

1:20:20.960 --> 1:20:24.760
<v Speaker 4>target rate per Fantasy Points of data for Reference. That

1:20:24.800 --> 1:20:28.760
<v Speaker 4>would tiebrock Bauers for the fifth highest over the course

1:20:28.760 --> 1:20:30.599
<v Speaker 4>of the full season at the tight end position, behind

1:20:30.600 --> 1:20:33.120
<v Speaker 4>only Treat McBride, George Kittle, Travis Kelcey, and Evan Ingram.

1:20:33.400 --> 1:20:36.679
<v Speaker 4>So the usage is really really good. And that's that's first.

1:20:36.680 --> 1:20:39.599
<v Speaker 4>That first retargetrate is not a per route rate. That is,

1:20:40.040 --> 1:20:42.559
<v Speaker 4>he has twenty four percent of the team's entire first

1:20:42.600 --> 1:20:45.919
<v Speaker 4>retargets in those games, and so if his role increases,

1:20:45.960 --> 1:20:47.200
<v Speaker 4>that number might only increase.

1:20:47.400 --> 1:20:49.360
<v Speaker 1>And those are that's an elite first read percentage for

1:20:49.360 --> 1:20:50.559
<v Speaker 1>a tight end by the way, too.

1:20:50.640 --> 1:20:53.599
<v Speaker 3>So lex Mike Kasiki over Jamar Chase is all I'm

1:20:53.600 --> 1:20:54.360
<v Speaker 3>hearing right now.

1:20:55.000 --> 1:20:57.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, an interesting thing too for people's minds on the ranks,

1:20:57.600 --> 1:20:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Like Kasiki is ranked over Sam Laporta this week, and

1:20:59.680 --> 1:21:01.479
<v Speaker 1>I know hasn't been good, so it's not like this

1:21:01.520 --> 1:21:04.400
<v Speaker 1>big shocker, but just from a name value perspective, you've

1:21:04.400 --> 1:21:07.120
<v Speaker 1>got Kaziki over Laporta this week. The other tight end

1:21:07.120 --> 1:21:09.240
<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna just mention is TJ Hockinson on the

1:21:09.320 --> 1:21:12.599
<v Speaker 1>last one. He is ECR twelve. He's just holding on.

1:21:12.920 --> 1:21:15.160
<v Speaker 1>This is the biggest gap you guys have fits. You've

1:21:15.160 --> 1:21:18.480
<v Speaker 1>got him at seven and Jacob's got him at sixteen.

1:21:19.000 --> 1:21:21.439
<v Speaker 1>So FITZI, why don't you give us the positive on

1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:22.479
<v Speaker 1>Hawkinson real quick?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean just kind of a training wheels return

1:21:25.040 --> 1:21:27.960
<v Speaker 3>for TJ Hockinson last week. Three catches twenty seven yards,

1:21:27.960 --> 1:21:30.719
<v Speaker 3>but he did play twenty seven or excuse me, thirty

1:21:30.760 --> 1:21:34.200
<v Speaker 3>three snaps, So maybe we see not a bad snapcount

1:21:34.200 --> 1:21:36.240
<v Speaker 3>at all, and maybe we see that climb more this

1:21:36.320 --> 1:21:39.240
<v Speaker 3>week against a Jaguars defense that has given up the

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<v Speaker 3>eighth most fantasy points to tight ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob your take, You do not seem excited about TJ.

1:21:44.880 --> 1:21:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Hockinson this week. As far as the ranks go, tight

1:21:46.960 --> 1:21:49.439
<v Speaker 1>ends have been kind of squirrely. Is it the snap

1:21:49.479 --> 1:21:51.080
<v Speaker 1>percentage that's got you holding back?

1:21:51.840 --> 1:21:55.040
<v Speaker 4>It's mostly his ranking? Is this a reflection of my

1:21:55.120 --> 1:21:57.800
<v Speaker 4>confidence level relative to the other tight ends? I think

1:21:57.800 --> 1:22:00.639
<v Speaker 4>that it's actually a relatively deep week at tight I'm

1:22:00.680 --> 1:22:03.200
<v Speaker 4>really excited about what we've seen from Carolina Panthers rookie

1:22:03.240 --> 1:22:05.680
<v Speaker 4>tight end Jatavian Sanders. He's played really really well of

1:22:05.800 --> 1:22:09.000
<v Speaker 4>the past month, over two yards per out run over

1:22:09.040 --> 1:22:11.519
<v Speaker 4>the past month. John new Smith has played well, been

1:22:11.520 --> 1:22:14.840
<v Speaker 4>really involved in the offense. Hunter Henry's played pretty well lately,

1:22:15.560 --> 1:22:18.360
<v Speaker 4>so I think you can maybe start him over like

1:22:18.439 --> 1:22:21.120
<v Speaker 4>Laporter or Jake Ferguson. I guess, but I kind of

1:22:21.120 --> 1:22:24.160
<v Speaker 4>have a tough time moving him too much higher than

1:22:24.200 --> 1:22:27.320
<v Speaker 4>where I have him at tighten sixteen, and it's mostly

1:22:27.360 --> 1:22:30.440
<v Speaker 4>just because of the role. Last last week, fifty three

1:22:30.439 --> 1:22:34.920
<v Speaker 4>percent route rate for TJ. Hockinson, only one first read target.

1:22:35.400 --> 1:22:38.320
<v Speaker 4>To me, those rates suggest that maybe the Vikings are

1:22:38.800 --> 1:22:41.000
<v Speaker 4>just kind of intent on like slow rolling his return,

1:22:41.040 --> 1:22:42.920
<v Speaker 4>which I think they can afford to do because they

1:22:43.000 --> 1:22:44.599
<v Speaker 4>have had such a good season up to this point.

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