WEBVTT - Let's Go Girls 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:07.800 Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. Okay, 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:12.160 it is a girl's episode, and I am so excited 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.480 because I have my girls with me, my rider dies, 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:22.799 Catherine and Pamel and what's so we just got back 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:31.400 from they know it felt like Vegas. We definitely were 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.320 not in Vegas. We were not We were in Miami. 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:38.120 We were in South Beach. How was it, girls? It 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.400 was great, epic, I would say. I mean it was 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.120 one of those where we all it's like sometimes you 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.080 just got to dress up and feel pretty, right, I 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:48.720 mean you kind of said it best. Yeah, I know, 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.000 like it's just good for your soul, you know. I 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:54.160 mean it's like we're moms, you know most of the times, 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.040 and we're coaches and we're you know, grinding it out 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.480 and then just to like go and feel sexy and 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.600 just know that you have like that side of you 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.280 two is just a good feeling that we should all 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.039 do often. Yeah, I know, it's true. And even when 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:09.760 we were like trying on clothes, I was like, I 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.520 feel kind of sexit Like is that like you know, 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.600 I could have done without the heels. That part was 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.560 a little rough, but yeah, but I mean it was 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.360 you know, like to your point, like Pamela, like you're 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.200 you're the kid's soccer coach, and you know, it's it's 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.080 it is nice to just like change it up a 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.720 little bit and and have you know, and feel feel 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:30.480 I feel like you's still got it. Yeah, I know. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:32.800 I say like it was good. It was needed for 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.080 my soul as much as for yours. You know. Yeah, 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:40.320 but it was fun. We we had some good times. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.360 We got on a yacht, we had Yeah, it was 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.440 it was all. It was all fun. But I'm so 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:50.280 excited for this podcast because we have someone who is 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:57.120 she's a legend. I mean, I'm so excited. Yeah, she's 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.880 I mean, she's she's she's amazing, and she is going 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.160 to Vegas because Shania Twain. So we have on. So 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:06.800 that's why I wanted to have my girls in the show, 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:12.560 because you know, let's go, girls, let's go. We just went. 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.040 But now we're like now you know, Shania Twain is 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.679 going to come on, and there's just so many things. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.040 Actually I was when I was cleaning out because you know, 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.960 the house is being cleared of things, and so I'm 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.600 but I kind of love, uh, I like to get 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.880 rid of things. You know, so purging is so good. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.080 So but when I was going through some of the 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.520 boxes in the addict and kind of separating our stuff, 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:42.080 I saw these videos that my aunt sent me and 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.760 she had took them from a VCR, which is so funny, 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.320 by the way, because it's a VCR tape, and then 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.120 she converted it to a DVD. But now I don't 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.240 have anywhere to play the DVD. We can get you 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.120 a DVD player, because it's a me lip sinking to 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:58.200 Shania Twain when I was in ninth grade, like, I'm 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:03.520 wearing my mom's prom dress, her like black nineteen the 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:10.000 eighties prompt or seventies prom dress, and I'm lip sinking that. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.880 I'm sure it's I mean, we have ever they get 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:15.880 it on a drive? How do I do that? Okay? 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.920 It is it already a DVD. It's a DVD. We 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.000 can go to Target by a DVD player they still exist, 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.120 or Walmart. It'll be all right, there are still DVD players. 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.720 They're not extinct. We can do it. We're not that old. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:37.280 I mean, will our kids ever buy a DVD player? Though? No? CD? No, 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.280 isn't that kind of sad. I was in church their 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.080 day did you see the message in church their day 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.560 where he was he was basically like he was the 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.320 lost art, like of all these things and that was 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.840 like a boom box and like boom box, and then 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.520 he then the DVD player and because it's all those things, 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.240 that's kind of like, I don't know, getting off on 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:01.440 a tangent, but um, what is your's favorite twins? Oh? 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:06.440 Any man of mine for sure, who's under who's been 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:11.560 heavy bootsmen? And then any man in mine? I feel 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:16.520 like that should be my mom better be proud of me, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:26.120 even when ugly and for a date that's fun. Yes, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.280 I have a good voice. Oh oh that's good one 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:36.119 of our producers. Honey, I'm home in our day home. 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:43.039 Have a dog bone. Hey, hey, honey, I'm home. She 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.560 just has so many, so many and that just I 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.080 feel like resonate with just so many people, you know, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.920 I can't wait to talk to her. Um. Yeah, I'm 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.320 immediately in a better mood because I feel like today, 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:58.560 you know when you just wake up in a funk, 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.240 that was me today. I mean, I know I have 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.560 a lot of life changes, but like it wasn't even 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.080 because of that. I just kind of woke up like 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:09.359 me annoyed. He can bring you joy though. Oh she 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:16.920 for sure ken, I mean obviously, but her story is fascinating. Yeah. 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.960 I have a lot of questions because she I have 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.080 a lot of questions, A lot of questions because she married, 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.520 so she got divorced to her he was producer, got 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.840 divorced from him, who basically he I don't want to 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.440 say like he made. I hate when it's like he 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.479 made her, but I mean like his he had a 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.479 lot to do with her success and her sound and 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.599 all that she made herself. But I mean he helped, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:45.000 uh you know, get it out there in a in 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:50.840 a really thank you off um. But they got divorced 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.640 and then her husband now was the best friend of 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.680 the It's just like, how do I how do I 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:01.040 describe the girl that he was cheating on with. Yeah, 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.200 it's like a couple of best friends. And so they 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.200 just like swapped. I don't know if I could do that, 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.160 and like are they all cool? Now? That's like if 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:11.599 I was like you you know what I mean, like 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:17.000 you know, like you married Mike, Oh, let's not go 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:21.680 that far. And then and then you know, I'm married Nick, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.279 and it's like that I don't know, but I didn't 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.880 even imagine, Like I know one other couple that that 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.839 happened to just like a you know, family kind of 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.200 friend situation. Um, and no, they didn't hang out. I 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.919 mean I didn't hang out. And you wonder like, was 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:41.320 there like those kind of you know, underlying feelings. Well 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.120 obviously for for her ex husband and the woman obviously, 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.160 because I mean they were but then again, maybe she 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.280 had the feelings too though for him. I'm saying it 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.920 might have been something there already. See that's like so 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.479 interesting to me because that would eat me up every 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.560 time I'm like, oh we had that like game night, 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:02.160 like were you given giving each other eyes? And then 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.640 was I giving the other guy eyes? Like? I mean, 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.039 I love how things always work out, but it is interesting. 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.320 I would just trust you know, that was probably like 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:11.960 God's plan from the beginning and we just have to 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.720 roll with it. Right. Oh, that'd be a hard one 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:19.480 to I'm all about God's plan and I am all 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.280 about God's plans too, but I I you know, my 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.160 X ends up with one of my best friends, that's 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.120 going to be a really hard I'm pretty sure that's 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:32.120 not gonna that will never happen. Maybe it's God's plans. 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:38.760 All right, take it back, But I'm saying she's so happy, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.040 you know what I mean for her to be with him, 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.600 you know, I mean, you know, do we know how 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:51.680 long after she got with the man? No, I don't 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:55.760 have questions. Sorry, I'm not gonna ask that questions. Never mind. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.840 It is interesting though, Um, but I am should we 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:02.280 go to Vegas? I feel like we have to go 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.920 to Vegas for this residency because I've never seen her live. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.240 I mean I listened to her all the time. You 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.160 have to go and it's going to be December. And 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:16.600 in December, so we had divorce party. We're going to 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:20.280 have like now we're gonna have let's go girls, because 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:24.760 now it's all about positive and happy. Yeah, it'll be 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.720 like six months after D Day and that's when you 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:33.920 kind of you know, let's go girls. It's perfect. Holy moly. Well, 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.400 I'm so excited and I can't wait to get the 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:41.880 one and only Shania Twain on Wine Down after the break. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:58.400 Oh we're gonn. I'm so excited. Okay, so Shania will 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.560 be on soon. But I just got come from should that. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.320 I believe we are going to the opening night in 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:11.160 Vegas to see Shaniya Let's go girls on my birthday. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.440 Like things are looking up guys, you know, you know 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:18.720 the other day, Katherine, when you were in the podcast 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:24.080 and you're like, I'm excited for you. I'm excited see there. Yeah, 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.920 it just takes a few months. Oh, I'm so happy 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.800 to be like on the trip with you, you know, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.000 like I mean on the journey, you know, like I 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.319 just cannot wait, Like I just know it's going to 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.959 be beautiful. What is it for like friends when they 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.720 go through that, because it's like I see, like I'm 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.280 so thankful for y'all. But what is it like for 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:46.160 on the other side of things? I mean, you know, 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.320 with me, I mean cripe, I got sick, you know, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.520 just from like dealing, um, dealing with all of it 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:57.760 going down, Like it literally took me to an illness. Um. 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.640 So it's I mean because I just care, you know, 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:02.560 like I mean, I just love you so much. And 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.520 it was like so um, like deep and layered and 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.400 you know, like sad and for so many levels. But 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.600 I am just so proud of you know, like how 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:15.600 you've come out of this so far. And it's like 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.760 only the beginning, and I'm just I'm proud as hell 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:20.960 of you. Like I'm so proud. I mean I could cry, 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.959 you know, because we didn't know me and we didn't 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.959 know how this was going to go down. Yeah, I 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.120 mean we didn't know. But at the same time, I 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.319 knew we'd get here, so I wasn't as like, I 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.200 knew we'd get here eventually. And now that we're here, ladies, 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:46.439 let's get Shania on the funnies. Oh there you are, Shania. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.120 Oh my goodness, girl, I can't even First of all, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.600 my name is Janna, this is Catherine, and this is Pamelin. 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.720 Thank you so much for doing this podcast. I'm just like, 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:01.240 you are an idol of mine for for so many years, 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.800 so this is a true honor. Well it's I mean, 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.160 the plugure is mine. Thank you, Thanks for having me. 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:12.000 So you are going back on tour. You are going 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.839 to be doing your residency in Vegas. How excited are 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.240 you just to get back, especially with everything that's been 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:21.000 going on the last year or so well, I mean 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.640 it's already been over a year. I was, you know, 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:31.320 just doing my show in Vegas and in March Plug 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.000 got pulled, like you know, for every like everybody else, 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.480 and I never got a chance to say goodbye to 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.320 the fans, to the you know, to the dancers, to 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:46.079 the band, to the crew. So um, I'm just ready 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:50.360 to get back and get in a big hug, I mean, 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:54.440 just like you know, old fashioned hug and have fun 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.080 again and and be together for sure. I mean, what's 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.360 what makes this different this time around? I mean what, like, 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.480 obviously it's been a while since you've gone out and performed, 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.000 but is there something where you're just gonna are you 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:07.920 gonna like take it in a little bit more, or 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:09.960 is there one thing that you're just like really looking 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:17.120 forward to to doing again. I mean, I've missed Vegas, 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.959 and I mean I'm like I say, like I'm I've 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.160 been lonely for Vegas and does not make any sense really, 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:29.920 but um, I've just missed uh being in the spirit 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:34.640 of Las Vegas and on the stage sharing what I 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.440 love and what I do. I mean, I've created this 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:43.240 show and all this fashion and all this um music 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:47.520 and design, and I'm not able to share it. So 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.800 there's nothing more frustrating than that. So um, it's gonna 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.440 be a big relief. It's gonna be I think it'll 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.960 be emotional too. Um, just being able to reconnect with 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.120 everybody again. And and I've even got like a little 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:08.160 another little party share in the show. So are you 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.839 guys already rehearsing or will you all have to wait 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.800 a little while or how wout that work this go around? Um, 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:22.280 I'll go into rehearsals probably um late November, and um yeah, 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.640 and then all the and ends. I'm going to be 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:29.480 adding a little you know, like holiday spirit to the 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.760 show as well. Being December and my first you know 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.440 time back after so long, so I'll be doing something 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:40.760 holiday in there which will be just great and heartfelt. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.840 And then oh and then in February, she scored me, 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.040 I have more shows in February, and I'm going to 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:50.920 do a very like romantic theme show on Valentine's Day. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:55.480 So I'm just busy being like anxious and impatient about 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:59.200 getting back and coming up with more things to add 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:03.440 in the show. Um. So on a personal note, I'm 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.360 I'm going through a divorce right now, and obviously I 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.560 know that we share that in common. Is there one 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.760 thing that you can tell me or that something that 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.880 helped you kind of regain your confidence, regain your energy 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:21.120 and your light again after um that you know that breakup. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:26.520 Oh that's I'm sorry to hear that. Um. Even you 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.320 know sometimes it's for the better to be a part 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:34.000 and you know, not to not be together. But um, 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.880 even just through this COVID bit, I would say that 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:44.240 my advice is to search for your own Um. I 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.960 mean I always used the word escape because I like 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.960 to get You know, you've got to use your imagination. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.880 You have to dig deep and say, okay, where is 0:14:53.960 --> 0:15:01.240 my happy place? And um, get yourself unstuck. There's no 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.640 easy way and you're the only person that can do it. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.760 So I don't know if you're stuck, but um, I 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:12.880 certainly was when I got divorced. And I know a 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.360 lot of people feel stuck now with this COVID and 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.920 um the isolation and all the limitations. So we have 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.920 I go to music, for example, So I turned to music. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.680 That is my inspiration. That is where I say, Okay, 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.560 I want to feel happy. I need to feel happy, 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.720 I need to feel good, I need to feel confident, 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:33.520 I need to feel uplifted. And I go to music. 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.600 That's my medicine. Yeah, I love that. And when you 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.240 weren't able to go to music for those years when 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.720 you took the break, Like what, um did you feel 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.080 lost or what other things did you do to like, 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.240 you know, find your your identity and like find yourself again. 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.840 I always go to whatever it is that makes me 0:15:53.920 --> 0:16:01.000 feel happy. And sometimes it's just um the roses. I mean, 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.520 I know what that might sound really like corny, but 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:10.000 I love that, you know, being in nature. My child 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.480 at the time when I lost comes a new mom. 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:17.320 So um, I just dove into being the best mom 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.560 I could and loving that. And I think and I 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.720 filled up. I think wherever your gaps are or your 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.920 um emptiness is, you have to fill out up with 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.720 other things. You just um, you got to fill them 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.960 up with things that make you feel good. And what 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.320 about when you know that new relationship or that new 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.600 kind of like flirt comes in, Like was it hard 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.880 for you to open yourself back up again to that? 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.640 Because I feel like I'm like, I'm excited, and I 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.920 know that I deserve that because I haven't had I 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.040 haven't been happy for a really long time. But I 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.000 also am like I get scared because like, oh my gosh, 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.080 is it too soon or like you know, should so 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.240 it's like I'm I'm I'm almost like fighting with myself 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.680 when it's like, why shouldn't I just be you know, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.040 will allow that flirt to happen or allow this to 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.000 like come into my life. So I'm just curious, like 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.879 how you went away through that. I think it's a 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:13.960 I personally think it's a good thing to care about 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:20.840 yourself enough to hum, I'm all into something that's going 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:25.520 to make you unhappy again, I would say, focus on 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.000 yourself and if you're not, even if you're I just 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.439 think patience is a great great thing to exercise. And 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:39.760 when you're falling in love again and it's all moven fun. Um, 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.200 I don't know. I think sometimes waiting a little bit 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.840 is a good thing. It makes you dream more, makes 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:49.160 it even better in the end. And I say, don't rush. 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:54.200 If you're not fighting, If you're fighting with yourself, um, 0:17:54.400 --> 0:18:00.520 you're probably maybe not ready. I just I would say earlier, 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.760 how when I was twelve years old or not twelve 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.919 years old, I was like fourteen fifteen, I was I 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.320 lip synced one of your songs because I used to 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.280 do like these like stupid videos because I wanted to 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.000 be a country singer. And I I have a DVD 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.000 of me lip syncing to your songs and my mom's 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.919 prom dress, and so the fact that I'm even like 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.120 talking to and just told you that story, like I'm humiliated, 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.920 but you know, I I love how you because you know, 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.479 I did country music for like you know, I still do. 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:33.520 But I I love the fact that, like you didn't 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.680 make any apologies for your sound and at the time, 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:37.800 it's like, oh, everyone thought that you were so poppy, 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:39.239 and it's like, now I listened to your song, I'm 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.560 like you were so country, you know, compared to what 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.800 it is now, but you just didn't care. And I 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.840 love that about you, and I just I yeah, but 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.680 I like what you said about the Brad Pitt. Yeah, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.560 we want to know, like in that you know, the 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.760 one sentence in the in your song about who do 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.120 you think you are? Brad Pitt? Like how did you 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.040 choose at Pit out of like all of the famous 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.360 men you know during that time? And we think it's 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:08.200 so crazy because it's still resonates today because he's still 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:11.000 so great and so hot, Like how did how did 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:15.000 you choose him? I mean I was thinking with a 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:17.760 smile on my face, and how I mean the most 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:22.439 obvious you know, I mean still now, but even in 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:24.680 that moment, it's like, Okay, who is the most obvious 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.399 guy that everybody is obviously impressed with. It's gonna be 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:31.320 Brad Pitt or it was for me. Um. And so 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.360 I did that, you know, with a sense of humor 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:39.800 and certainly no insult Bradfitt know you know, Um, So 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.800 it was it was a little bit of an indulgence 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.560 in sense of humor and just having fun with that. 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.679 I mean, of course, even a rocket scientist or you 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:52.840 already know, it's very very instive. Um. And bradfat was 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:58.159 on my mind. He was going through a lot of like, um, 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.760 a lot of tabloid pressure and all that sort of thing, 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.600 and I just thought, there's nothing like a bit of 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:08.360 comic relief and just have a little bit of a 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.080 laugh and some fun with lyrics. I mean it even 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.200 works to this day. So that's so great because it's 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.280 like you could have picked someone that wasn't you know, 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.199 I mean he might have been a star then, but 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.240 he wouldn't be you know, So like you did great 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.040 on that Evergreen. Is there a song that you have 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:28.200 a hard time singing? Oh my gosh, of my own 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:33.000 or anything of your own that like either you don't 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:36.280 like or you are just like it it because it's 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:38.399 or it hits you and it reminds you of something. 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:43.439 Uh yeah, you're still the one can do that to something. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.879 And because it was so true in the moment, I 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:52.359 really felt that way. And so sometimes when I'm singing 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:57.440 and I'm like, Okay, I don't really mean that same 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:00.920 way anymore, and I have to Um, it doesn't mean 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.159 the same thing either to me now, so I have 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:09.639 to find another reason to believe in the song. So 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.960 I'm genuine when I'm singing it, right, if you're when 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:17.080 your life has changed, Um, you have to find another 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:22.760 another reason, another meaning behind the sentiment. And for me, honestly, 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.639 so many people have gotten married to that song and 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:31.200 engaged to that song and are celebrating anniversaries to still 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:35.560 the one that it's a renewed emotion for me to 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:40.080 know that people have taken it on as their own story, 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:45.000 and I kind of feel like I've written it for 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.320 for all of them. It's a it's a funny. It's 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:52.800 a funny thing that once you share your your music, 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:57.800 it belongs to the listener. M and that has made 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.800 it easier for me with that song. But yeah, so 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:02.600 I have to get into I have to go through 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:08.080 that um process. When I'm doing it, every once in 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.359 a while it does grab me. That's a good tip 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.080 because this other well, like a week ago, I was 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:16.760 I played my first show and I didn't realize how 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:21.120 many songs were tied to my ex and we started 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.399 playing a song and it was, you know, it was 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:25.119 my song called love like I Still Believe in You, 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:28.399 and I just I looked at my guitar guitar player 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.080 and I couldn't, like I was, I physically couldn't saying. 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:32.440 I just started crying and I was just like, we 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:34.879 gotta stop the song because I'm like, I don't and 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.399 it was I was so embarrassed. But it's like, you 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:40.800 don't know how like how close those songs are, do 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:42.520 you when you write them and you sing them and 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:46.400 you perform them, and like who they remind you of? Too? 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:49.040 So I like how you are able to change that. 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.080 I mean, it's better to let it out anyway. And 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.960 then I think that once it, once it goes, I 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:56.800 just don't have a lot of back game again, you know, 0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:01.080 just let that stuff flow. I and I think that 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.320 those I think those songs just take on your meaning. 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:07.200 I really do. And then once they do, it's, um, 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.120 there's a whole other light on it. And like I said, 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:10.920 I mean, I think it's that it's what it means 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:17.080 to the fans. Really, Um, that matters so much to me. Now, um, 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.399 I've had so many great stories. I just I just 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:23.200 heard this populous storage. I gotta share it with you. Okay, 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:30.159 perfect example. So from this moment on, oh no, even 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:35.000 better now okay, because this has happened, but from the 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:38.360 smullment on as well. But man, I feel like a woman. Okay, 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:44.000 so this lady, this is her first baby she puts on, Man, 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.760 I feel like a woman, lasting it during her delivery 0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:52.639 and of course screaming along with it during her pains 0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:58.360 and has a baby girl. I'm thinking, Okay, I mean 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:01.440 now I'm never gonna see that on me the same again. 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:03.960 So this is kind of what I'm meaning. You know, 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:10.480