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Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: Welcome home, y'all, this is Native Lampod. I am Angela

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Speaker 1: Raie with Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillham. We are joined today.

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Speaker 1: You done, He's already so much with your delayed ass intro.

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Speaker 1: We are joined today by one of our good friends,

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Speaker 1: our dear sister, Congresswoman Ayana Presley, who represents Massachusetts seventh District.

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Speaker 1: And she is on the move, y'all. She's getting things done, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Talk about where are our fighters. She is in these

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Speaker 1: streets making sure that we are represented, that our interests

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Speaker 1: are heard, that they're known, and that we don't silently

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Speaker 1: disappear into the dark. So she is just coming from

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Speaker 1: a protest, which we will hear about.

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Speaker 3: On the friend.

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Speaker 1: Oh, she's on the way, on the way into the protest.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's hear about this protest from her

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Speaker 1: while I'm getting fact checked, and tell us where you

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Speaker 1: are headed and the importance of this moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: First, I just want to say that it's good to

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Speaker 4: be home, good to be with you, and I just

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Speaker 4: want to say this community in this moment is not

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Speaker 4: a nice to have, it is a must have. So

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Speaker 4: as we revisit that question from King, where do we

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Speaker 4: go from here? You know, in a moment of chaos, cruelty,

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Speaker 4: and corruption, where do we go from here?

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Speaker 3: Chaos or community? We have to continue to choose.

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Speaker 4: Community and solidarity because this wholesale harm is coming for everybody.

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Speaker 4: So right now I'm on my way to a protest

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Speaker 4: that one of our federal buildings in solidarity with federal workers.

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Speaker 4: And let me just say this, as someone who was

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Speaker 4: an aide for sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Years, I get so tired of.

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Speaker 4: People not seeing the humanity of our federal workforce.

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Speaker 3: And thinking that this is just you.

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Speaker 4: Know, hacks living on the government dole.

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Speaker 3: These are people that could have been serving and taking.

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Speaker 4: Their talent many other places, but with the intention they

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Speaker 4: arrived at the office every day to make sure that

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Speaker 4: someone was on the other end of the line to

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Speaker 4: pick up the phone when you were in christ and

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Speaker 4: you needed a lifeline and you needed an advocate. These

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Speaker 4: are dedicated, compassionate, brilliant individuals who deserve more than to

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Speaker 4: receive a pink slip or a threatening email.

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Speaker 3: From a doge bro or from some rich, entitled, greedy, grubby.

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Speaker 4: Hand millionaire who's taken a wrecking ball to the infrastructure of.

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Speaker 3: Our federal government.

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Speaker 4: And now so many federal workers don't know how they'll

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Speaker 4: provide for their own families.

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna tell you what.

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Speaker 4: I've spent a lot of time with these workers, and

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Speaker 4: their primary concern is not even how they will provide

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Speaker 4: with their families.

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Speaker 3: It's not even their livelihood.

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Speaker 4: It is how would their unfinished work impact the people

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Speaker 4: the communities.

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Speaker 3: That they serve.

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Speaker 4: What does this mean for their grant that someone is

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Speaker 4: now now advancing, What does the mean for that veteran

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Speaker 4: with the BA you know? What does this mean for

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Speaker 4: someone who's headstock portal, you know, is closed. So I'm

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Speaker 4: on my way in solidarity because every day, at this

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Speaker 4: inflection point, where cruelty, cares and corruption.

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Speaker 3: Are daily intake our daily food, I'm gonna choose.

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Speaker 5: Community that's real, that's real. Do you think that it's

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Speaker 5: ironic that you get this guy head and doze a

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Speaker 5: made up organization that ain't really legit yet as an organization,

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Speaker 5: an agency of the government, The wealthiest man in the

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Speaker 5: damn world happens to be telling us about wasted federal

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Speaker 5: money taxpayer dollars while he's on the take that this

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Speaker 5: man is criticizing the appropriations of you all well at

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Speaker 5: the same time putting money in his pocket from the

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Speaker 5: very source that he's criticized. What's the irony in that?

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Speaker 5: And how do we drive that further home? Or do

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me just say this. As I think about

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Speaker 3: how to move forward, I always take a look back.

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Speaker 3: So there's three things that are guiding me in this moment.

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Speaker 4: Laid out to us in the early chapters of the

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Speaker 4: civil rights movement, which we're still very much in. Doctor

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Speaker 4: King said, our most powerful weapon is organizing.

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Speaker 3: So we have to organize organized organized. Now, Listen, that

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Speaker 3: Us to such an extent that we just start being reactive.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes in being reactive, we're not being strategic.

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Speaker 4: So I keep looking back to those early chapters and

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Speaker 3: Like what did they do? What do resistance look like?

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Speaker 4: And again, there's three things that I think we always

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Speaker 4: need imagination, strategy, and stamina.

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Speaker 3: I've learned that from the movements. The second thing, you're

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Speaker 3: going to look at the.

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Speaker 4: Pandemic, because there's the closest analogue.

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Speaker 3: That I have to this moment is full sale harm.

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Speaker 3: And what did we do? We stood up infrastructure, rapid response,

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Speaker 3: mutual aim.

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Speaker 4: Those are some of the things that I'm working on

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Speaker 4: actively right now to build so mutually.

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Speaker 3: What's the second thing? And then the third thing, Doctor.

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Speaker 4: King, you know, tells us that we have to study

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Speaker 4: the words of the oppressed to inform our strategy.

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Speaker 3: So I'm paying.

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Speaker 4: Close attention to every executive action and the words of

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Speaker 4: this authoritarium and fascist regime and Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

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Speaker 4: So doctor King says, we need to dramatize the evil,

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Speaker 4: Andrew and so that is why sometimes we go out

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Speaker 3: Are like, you know, dang, Like all she did was

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Speaker 3: just tell us everything is wrong. Well, I have to

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Speaker 3: dramatize the evil. I have to tell you, and we

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Speaker 3: have to make them wear it. And let me just

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Speaker 3: say this, anyone that is.

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Speaker 4: Not being actively disrupted and agitating and doing the work

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Speaker 4: of litigation legislation, agitation, mobilization is being complicit in this

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Speaker 4: wholesale harm. And although this harm is coming for everybody,

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Speaker 4: it is anti blackness of steroids.

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Speaker 3: So I'm paying.

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Speaker 6: Attention to who isn't saying anything, because everyone, what are

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Speaker 6: you talking about?

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Speaker 1: I think, to Tip's point last week, if somebody needs

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Speaker 1: to be held accountable, they need to be held accountable.

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Speaker 1: We cannot hold people accountable who we can't name. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that that's a trap. I think that's the truth.

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Speaker 7: Do you care to drop a name because we got some.

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Speaker 1: Bit abond?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 7: Can I just say this, congresswoman, I you know I

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Speaker 7: if you, if I ever had to cover you for something,

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Speaker 7: I would have to recuse myself because I just love you.

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Speaker 7: And I want people, the American people watching this to

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Speaker 7: know that who they see on the floor of Congress,

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Speaker 7: who they see on this podcast, and who we are

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Speaker 7: privileged to see privately just with you, is consistently the

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Speaker 7: same person living in service to liberation, a true public

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Speaker 7: servant with a personal testimony, your story. And I think

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Speaker 7: there's a lot of complacency right now. I think there's

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Speaker 7: a lot of apathy when it comes to government, and

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Speaker 7: you still have that ability to give people goosebumps when

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Speaker 7: you speak, to speak with righteous indignation and anger.

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Speaker 3: And I know I.

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Speaker 7: Share all your videos, and so I just want to

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Speaker 7: take a moment to say thank you you for your work,

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Speaker 7: and that we are watching and paying attention and we

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Speaker 7: want to amplify you in whatever way. And I just

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Speaker 7: I cannot be an impartial or unbiased person ever with

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Speaker 7: you because you are my Aquarius sister. Happy belated birthday

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Speaker 7: to you, and I just appreciate you and love you

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Speaker 7: so much, and I want everybody to feel that way

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Speaker 7: about you. So I just I don't even have a question.

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Speaker 1: I just want to tell you that diddo diddo last week.

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Speaker 1: Last week, the CBC was my family, though, I just

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Speaker 1: want to point that out.

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Speaker 7: This is her family, your family. I love, I love

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Speaker 7: she did not pick up no because I love Ayana Pressley.

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Speaker 7: The CBC as a body, respectfully, is not my family.

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Speaker 7: Ayana Pressley is my sister. Who I will do it.

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Speaker 7: I'll fight somebody over les, somebody love. It will be

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Speaker 7: the CBC. Let MTG start acting fool on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 7: Neg see the Jarius bringers there. Real Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 7: a lawyer, Angela, get me out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I get you out with this,

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Speaker 1: DJ and Bonnie Is.

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Speaker 4: I love the levity of this for a moment, and

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Speaker 4: I thank you for those kind words since I receive

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Speaker 4: them and I spend them back to all of you.

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Speaker 4: The what you all are doing in this moment is

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Speaker 4: so essential because people are hungry for accurate information.

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Speaker 3: And look, you all have your opinions.

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Speaker 4: To the editorialize, but you also just bring the straight

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Speaker 4: time of just mass diss and misinformation or no information.

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Speaker 3: And I take so.

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Speaker 4: Many of my cues from you. You know, honestly, this

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Speaker 4: democrats need to do. You don't talk people out of

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Speaker 4: You don't counter their lived experience with slide decks.

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Speaker 3: You just listen and call a thing a thing. And

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Speaker 3: that's how you build trust. When I ran for Congress

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Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many consultants told me. If

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Speaker 4: be impeached for your.

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Speaker 3: Opinion is a racist pivot?

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Speaker 4: What that's why you'd be surprised, But we're saying that's

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Speaker 4: because you have to call a.

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Speaker 3: Thing a thing, and that's what you won't do.

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Speaker 5: You definitely can't lead if you're afraid of your shadow.

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Speaker 5: And it seems to me that a lot of people

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Speaker 5: therefore they're muted because they're in fear of themselves, stepping

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Speaker 5: You speak the truth, The truth is the truth is

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Speaker 5: the truth all the time. You can defend it otherwise,

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Speaker 5: for people who don't fight.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and as our sibling in the movement, Brittany Pac.

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Speaker 4: Mc cunningham says, swapping scared power is in power at

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Speaker 4: all And we although we worked our hearts out to

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Speaker 3: Yo, what if listen.

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Speaker 4: To black women was an actual practice and just not

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Speaker 4: in the coal mines on these things. I did not

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Speaker 4: None of us wanted this to come to pass, right.

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Speaker 4: We did everything to stop it from happening. The one

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Speaker 4: And Donald Trump and Eli Musk, they are transparent. They

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Speaker 3: They will abuse the power. I've been so.

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Speaker 4: All aligned on is the fight, and that is litigation.

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Speaker 3: And sorry, we love you.

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Speaker 3: In this moment, Why would you do such a thing.

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Speaker 4: Not the time to moderate our aspirations.

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Speaker 4: Talk about Jim pro and redlining and Orangeburg and Tulsa.

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Speaker 5: You said a lot there, Congress women, but I tell

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Speaker 5: I know you've got a balance, but I am very

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Speaker 4: And if I can't get my colleagues across the aisle

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Speaker 3: And advancing problem rest.

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Speaker 4: But so far they have not proven that they are

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Speaker 1: prepare to let you go and bring that bring the

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Speaker 1: house down at the rally, Our dear sister, I want

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Speaker 1: to just ask you if you have parting words for

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Speaker 1: those who don't see themselves represented in the members they have,

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Speaker 1: whether you know, state, local, or on the federal level.

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Speaker 1: For those who see you as their representative in their voice,

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Speaker 1: what is the thing that you would say to everybody

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Speaker 1: who's continued going on in this fight and it's scrambling

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Speaker 1: to figure out what to do next. What's the thing

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Speaker 1: that you would tell them to do. What's the point

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Speaker 1: of encouragement?

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Speaker 4: I would say that everyone has a role to play.

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Speaker 4: You know, some people are gonna I just left visiting

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Speaker 4: the program Youth Build right, they're picking up a hammer

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Speaker 4: in the name and the work of social racial justice,

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Speaker 4: progress and change. I pick up a microphone and a

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Speaker 4: lawmaking pen.

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Speaker 3: Every day.

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Speaker 4: Some people are going to pick up a paint brush,

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Speaker 4: you know, some people are going to leave the revolution,

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Speaker 4: and some people are going to pack the lunch for

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Speaker 4: the people leading the revolution. So I would just encourage

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Speaker 4: people to kind of do you know that that internal

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Speaker 4: audit of yourself, like what is my gift and what

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Speaker 4: do I seek to bring in this moment as my gift.

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Speaker 3: If you're a prayer warrior, do that. If you're a nurturer,

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Speaker 3: do that. If your community and a movement builder, do that.

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Speaker 4: If you believe in the electoral process still and want

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Speaker 4: to do the work of engagement, do that. You know,

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Speaker 4: if you want to storage your platform to share information,

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Speaker 4: do that.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people think civic.

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Speaker 4: Engagement is just running for office and voting. And so

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Speaker 4: if you're questioning the integrity of a voting process and

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Speaker 4: you have a deficit of trust and your elected representative,

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Speaker 4: you're like, now what, But the opportunities for civic engagement

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Speaker 4: and the responsibility have always been greater than that, and

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Speaker 4: the power of the people has.

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Speaker 3: Always been greater than the people in power. Now. People

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Speaker 3: always fill away a trip when I say that, because

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Speaker 3: they're like, well, technically art you want to position to power.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but I defeated a nearly twenty year in covent

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Speaker 4: and one beh eighteen points because I know where the

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Speaker 4: real power lies.

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Speaker 3: It is with the people. I govern cooperatively.

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Speaker 4: So you the people are still powerful, yes, even in

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Speaker 4: this moment, because every game that has happened was.

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Speaker 3: Not led by government. Government responded to the will of

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Speaker 3: the people. Come on, is this just.

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Speaker 4: A fact, it's just effect. So I know folks are tired.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, every movement needs imagination. That's my HR forty.

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Speaker 4: That's one of my my things I'm dreaming on right.

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Speaker 3: It's strategy.

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Speaker 4: So we need a defensive strategy litigation, legislation, agitation, mobilization,

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Speaker 4: and we need stamina.

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Speaker 3: And that's what we really struggle with. That's why boycott's.

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Speaker 4: Are short lived, because we struggle with stamina. Some Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we've got the summon sleeper shifts.

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Speaker 3: It's some summon.

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Speaker 4: Uh you know, uh, every bit of strength that we

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Speaker 4: have in this moment. I'm gonna close with with this

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Speaker 4: Tosell Richards because I co chair the newly named Reproductive

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Speaker 4: Freedom Caucus, which used to be the Pro Choice Caucus,

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Speaker 4: and Cecil Richards was an incredible partner in that fire.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: You know her from Planned Parenthood, the daughter of former

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Speaker 4: Texas Governor Ann Richards, and she recently died from brain cancer.

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Speaker 4: And she was out there organ rising and fighting even.

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Speaker 3: Though she was sick. And people said, what are you

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Speaker 3: doing here?

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Speaker 4: And she said, because in the future they'll pose the question,

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Speaker 4: what did.

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Speaker 3: They do when everything was at stake for the country?

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Speaker 4: And she said, the only acceptable answer is everything, everything

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Speaker 4: we could.

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Speaker 3: So I get it. Y'all.

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Speaker 4: Y'all feel like you're losing everything, so you want to

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Speaker 4: know that we're willing to risk it all to.

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Speaker 3: Put it on the line, and I am.

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Speaker 5: We love you for it.

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Speaker 3: Love you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yes, stand with them to tell

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Speaker 1: them we stay with them.

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Speaker 4: You ball, you know they take so much time to

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Speaker 4: pain from Boston.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you got your back.

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Speaker 2: They thank you for joining the Natives attention of with

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Speaker 2: the info and all of the latest rock gulum and

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Speaker 2: cross connective to the statements that you leave on our socials.

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Speaker 2: Thank you sincerely for the patients reason for your.

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Speaker 4: Choice is cleared, so.

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Speaker 3: Grateful and took to execute roads.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for serve, defend and protect the truth, even

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Speaker 2: if paint and walking home to all of the natives,

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Speaker 2: we thank you.

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