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Speaker 1: Back from Indianapolis, yet still talking about the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four NFL scouting Combine. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: Paul Calvec joins me for some combine leftovers, Quarterbacks, wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: offensive Lineman with the stars of the show over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of old lineman DJ Humphries, what's the latest with him?

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Speaker 1: We begin, though, with our thoughts about Chris Mortensen. It's

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, episode seven thirty three, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Bud to Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 1: What rent?

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Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five.

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Speaker 1: He's it again.

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Speaker 3: Some more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craigcriola.

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Speaker 1: So I am old enough to remember, and I believe

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Speaker 1: Paul is as well. I certainly don't want to date

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Speaker 1: him though. On Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyundai probut

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals, Will McDonough was the first

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Speaker 3: I believe it sounds right, and yes, that is my

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Speaker 3: term as well. Craig, I'm old enough to remember dot

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Speaker 1: Blank, remember that he was the first. But to me,

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Speaker 1: Chris Mortensen was the guy that I grew up reading

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Speaker 3: Now, NFL Insider is a full time jobs. Whereas Will

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Speaker 3: McDonough started it, it was sort of his side gig right,

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Speaker 3: his side hustle to go along with all his journalism,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden there could be breaking news, there

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Speaker 1: And sometimes your own team that you followed during the week,

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Speaker 1: And that was always a big deal. Why are we

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Speaker 1: And it did hit the NFL community hard. On Sunday,

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Speaker 3: Think of all the sources that Peter King and Chris

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Speaker 3: great news with j Humprees. Does it changed his future

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Speaker 3: Especially this year. This is one of the most loaded

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Speaker 3: They don't need a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: How about going to six or going to seven with

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Speaker 3: And here's the mind blow would be if Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 3: We're so used to the whole group think that Marvin

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Speaker 3: He heading shoulder pads above the rest roma Doonese put

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Speaker 3: you know what, Jane Daniels is a better fit for

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Speaker 1: For two years now, we've heard nothing but Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 3: And we all know Larry wentz through some tough seasons

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Speaker 3: five and just ran a four to three four forty

434
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Speaker 3: thirty nine and a half vertical, the only other receiver

435
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Speaker 3: to have that sort of size and speed and athleticism

436
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: in the past ten years would be DK Metcalf and

437
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 3: he was really productive at Texas, didn't get a lot

438
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: of the spotlight. Brian Thomas, who played second fiddle to

439
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: Maleik Neighbors, ran a four to three three forty and

440
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: he's six two two oh nine and he hit twenty

441
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: three miles per hour, the highest on the go route

442
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 3: thing right next gen stats. Ricky Persall, the local guy,

443
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 3: former ASU guy, went out, ran a four to four

444
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Speaker 3: to one and he's arguably the best route runner and

445
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: maybe the best hands in the draft. I mean, Keon

446
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: Coleman put on a show from Florida State Troy Flanklin.

447
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 3: He's six ' to two and ran a four four

448
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: one forty. There is so much talent and depth a

449
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: receiver and history, recent history has shown you can find

450
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: these guys in the second and third round and they

451
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: can be game breakers, playmakers. So it really makes me wonder, Craig,

452
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 3: if the offensive line is deep and you're thinking maybe

453
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 3: I can get that tackle even with number twenty seven,

454
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 3: and receivers are plentiful, then all of a sudden, number

455
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Speaker 3: four could that be a corner? Could that be a

456
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Speaker 3: defensive lineman or edge rusher? Sounds too high in this

457
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 3: draft to go that position, but maybe That means the

458
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: Cardinals are that much more apt to trade down within

459
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Speaker 3: the top ten to AC eleven, twelve or thirteen to

460
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 3: a quarterback hungry team. Then you get that defender who's

461
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: not in great supply, and you can still target some

462
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Speaker 3: of the offensive linemen and receivers with twenty seven, thirty

463
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Speaker 3: five and beyond draft class this is deep, maybe five

464
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Speaker 3: go in the first round according to experts. Put to

465
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Speaker 3: your point, Paul, where do you think you can get

466
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 3: the biggest value as far as where you're selecting with

467
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Speaker 3: what is still available on the board. Now, if you

468
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 3: have a Marvin Harrison junior or Joe Altz the number

469
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Speaker 3: one off the number one wide receiver and tackle in

470
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Speaker 3: this draft class, and they're just such a gap between

471
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Speaker 3: those and the second best at that position, then you're

472
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Speaker 3: at four and the decision is made for you. Yet,

473
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Speaker 3: at the same time, if you can drop down nine,

474
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Speaker 3: ten or eleven, gain an extra second or third round

475
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Speaker 3: or dare I say a future first, now all of

476
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 3: a sudden, you're getting maybe the second best wide receiver,

477
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Speaker 3: but still a number one wide receiver, the second or

478
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 3: third best tackle, which is still a starting, immediate starting tackle.

479
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: That that's on the left side or the right side.

480
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 3: Those are conversations that I'm sure have already happened will

481
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Speaker 3: continue to happen upstairs. But I'm curious more so because

482
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: of just how much we've heard about Marvin Harrison Junior.

483
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 3: But we know that this front office values the line

484
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, whether that's O line or D line, because

485
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter how good your quarterback is or how

486
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 3: good your wide receivers are. If the quarterbacks on his

487
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: back or running for his life because the offensive line

488
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: didn't protect, and then it doesn't matter what you have

489
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 3: at wide receiver because I'll say this a lot, it's.

490
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Speaker 1: A dependent position. You have to rely on someone else

491
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: getting you the football. But to your point, if that's

492
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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald that everyone says Marvin Harrison is, then yes,

493
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: you draft him at four. But I would not be

494
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Speaker 1: surprised if there is at least strong consideration. Dare I say,

495
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: maybe it does happen that Manty Austin Ford says, yeah

496
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: for the second straight year, I'm gonna move down. Maybe

497
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm moved back up, But I like the value that

498
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: this wide receiver offensive line class has allowing us to

499
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Speaker 1: move down to get more bites of the apple.

500
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Speaker 3: Which brings us to our saying, let there be a

501
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 3: fourth QB. Because if there is that fourth QB at

502
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 3: number four and QB just went one, two, three, which

503
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: seems to be the thinking more than ever right now,

504
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 3: then guess what you attack on the quarterback? Surcharge a

505
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 3: little QB kicker, which gives you more value for the

506
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 3: team coming up, whether it's the Giants, the Falcons, whomever,

507
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: especially the Broncos because no one likes Sean Payton. Boom

508
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: up they come. And then all of a sudden, that

509
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: extra pick you got, at the very least that extra

510
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 3: pick you got is maybe somewhere in the second round,

511
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: and hey, that nets you a starting franchise center. All

512
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: of a sudden you're able to get a Tanner Bartolini

513
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 3: from Wisconsin, or maybe a Graham Barton or a Zach Fraser.

514
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: I'm guessing Zach Fraser and Jackson Powers Johnson, the two

515
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 3: really marquee elite centers are going to be gone in

516
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 3: the first round. But how about a corner I mean,

517
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: this corner class is a little deeper I think than

518
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: we originally thought, especially Quinyan Mitchell. Hard to think that

519
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: Quinya Mitchell didn't pull ahead up Terry On Arnold just

520
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: based on the fact he went out there and ran

521
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 3: a blazing four to three three and looked really good

522
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: with his ball skills and his movement. So if Quinya

523
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: Mitchell and Terry and Arnold your first two corners, and

524
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you have Ennis Rakestraw from Missouri,

525
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 3: Nate Wiggins ran a four to eight the Clemson corner.

526
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 3: He's over six feet tall. And then and then you

527
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: have kool Aid McKinstry right the other starting corner at Bama,

528
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: along with Terry On Arnold. So there's definitely some marquee

529
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: corners and Craig. I'll just come back to this right now.

530
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: Do you have forget one? Do you have your two

531
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: starting corners on this team as currently constructed? Do you

532
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: have how many starting D lineman do you have? If

533
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: you played a game tomorrow, you can run out edge

534
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: rushers with a Zaving Collins and a bjo Jalai, a

535
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: Dennis Gardek. What do you have a D line right now?

536
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: What do you have a corner right now? So I

537
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: just wonder if those are two sleeper position groups that

538
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: we're not spending enough time talking about because not only

539
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: is their want, there's need and Cardinals have a dire

540
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: need in both position rooms. Right now you have.

541
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Speaker 1: You're starting slot corner and Garrett Williams. But to your point,

542
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: as far as your outside corners, yeah, you can throw

543
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: a couple of players out there, but are the legit

544
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: number one corners who are going to go up against

545
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: the elite wide receivers in the league. It's it's a

546
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: it's a question that I'm thinking, you're right, that is

547
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: not discussed enough. And then you look at this the

548
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: top tier corners, they're all tall six feet six one

549
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: six ' twoe in that two hundred pounds range. Wiggins

550
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: out of Clemson's one eighty five. He needs a pack

551
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: on some weight. But these are taller corners, which you

552
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: need because we just talked about the wide receiver class.

553
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: They're all six two sixty three sixty four And are

554
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: you physical enough at the point of attack? And then

555
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: do you have the height and the jumping ability to

556
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: match these elite wide res.

557
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: Cooper de Gene from Iowa, he said to have elite athleticism.

558
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: Now he didn't work out, not yet, but I think

559
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: you could probably put him in that mix as well.

560
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: There's a half dozen elite starting caliber corners as rookies

561
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: in this draft, especially for a cornerback needy team like

562
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals. Now, as of this recording, a week

563
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: from today, free agency starts. I could easily see the

564
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: Cardinals if they're going to spend free agent dollars spending

565
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: in the d line room, spending in the cornerback room.

566
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Speaker 3: You get one veteran at least, then you add an

567
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: elite rookie to kind of round out those rooms. I

568
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: could easily see that happening. I don't know exactly who's

569
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: gonna be available as of yet and what they're gonna command,

570
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: but remember Cardinals have around fifty million, and you know,

571
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: both both the GM and the owner have gone on

572
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: the local radio flagship station and said, okay, you know

573
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: what it's going to be time to spend. Now. Is

574
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: that going to be thirty nine a year for Chris Jones?

575
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 3: Probably not, and I questioned the wisdom of that. Anyway,

576
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: Onias Ward does not seem like he'd be that sort

577
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: of GM. But honestly, we don't know because they really

578
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: weren't in a position last year. So new to the job,

579
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: still trying to evaluate his own roster. Didn't want hamstring

580
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: himself when they sort of long term, big money commitments

581
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: until he had a firm handle on what his fifty

582
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: three looked like in real time. Now that he has,

583
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: Now that he has that knowledge, okay, how's he going

584
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 3: to fill in the blanks? Not just in the draft,

585
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: but in free agency?

586
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: The salary cap went up. It went way up. Now

587
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: that is good news for the Arizona Cardinals. It's good

588
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: news though for the thirty one other teams because those

589
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: players who might have been available might not be so

590
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: available if there's teams that are more flush with cash.

591
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, what do you get just fifty two million

592
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: over two years from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers a week

593
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: out from free agency? So now all of a sudden,

594
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: teams might be taking a look at, Hey, we've got

595
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: extra money to spend. Everyone likes to keep their own

596
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: guys house as opposed to going elsewhere and shop on

597
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: the open market. Might there not be that many top

598
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: tier players in free agency available? Can't pay everyone. But

599
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: just because the Cardinals have a lot of money doesn't

600
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: mean the guy next door doesn't have a lot of

601
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: money now because they're all operating under the same salary cap. Now,

602
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: some teams have more room than others, but that Buccaneers

603
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: move earlier, according to reports on Monday, does lead me

604
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: to believe that teams might be coming out of this

605
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: weekend in Indianapolis thinking, Hey, we've got some money to spend.

606
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: Let's take care of our own guys now before they

607
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: hit the market.

608
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: And it makes me wonder what Hollywood Brown is going

609
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: to command. Is he going to get Christian Kirk money

610
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: meaning big money that no one expects, that no one

611
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: saw coming. Is someone going to overpay for a Hollywood Brown,

612
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: someone who really covets that speed. You saw what a

613
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: Xavier Worthy did with a four to two one kind

614
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: of a similar body type to Hollywood Brown, And all right, uh,

615
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: what does that mean? Does that so of an a

616
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: roundabout way elevate the stock of a Hollywood Brown? Because

617
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: you've heard Jonathan Gannin more than once say, you know what,

618
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: as a defensive coordinator, those are the kind of guys

619
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: that keep you up during a game week, Guys who

620
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: can easily get behind your secondary and you have to

621
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: account for him. Make sure you have coverage over the top.

622
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Speaker 3: So all right, people watch the film on Hollywood Brown.

623
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Speaker 3: What are they thinking about his season where he had

624
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: to play with multiple quarterbacks, he was injured. What does

625
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: that mean. I'd like to think that suppresses his value.

626
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: It makes it realistic the Cardinals can get a short

627
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: term deal done with Hollywood Brown and especially his express

628
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: willingness and desire to stay in Arizona and ball with

629
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: his good friend Kyler Murray. So I hope that all

630
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 3: factors in a little bit. But we'll see if it's

631
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: going to be a lot of crazy money. Now that

632
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: teams are flushed with more cash than they expected because

633
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: of the expanded salary cap, getting an extra thirty million

634
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: beyond last year's cap number. Look out, you know, the

635
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: whole over pain for free agents, I think will be

636
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: alive and well.

637
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it, I know if we will.

638
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: But you do draft a wide receiver and that it's

639
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: a number one wide receiver on the outside, whether that's

640
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: Harrison Neighbors or Adonza. You got Michael Wilson on the

641
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: other side and Hollywood Brown playing more inside or moving

642
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: him around a little bit more. Now, what does that

643
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: mean for a Rondell Moore or Greg Dortch Zach Pascal

644
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: as well. But if you can find a way to

645
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: get Hollywood back in the fold and keep him healthy,

646
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: give him an entire offseason in this offense, and actually

647
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: some legitimate reps with his good friend and quarterback Kyler Murray.

648
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Speaker 1: What that might look like when Hollywood is not the

649
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: guy and not asked to be the guy, to where

650
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: he can kind of maybe roam around a little bit

651
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: more freely and then maybe get behind that secondary.

652
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Speaker 3: You know what I think of, I think a Tyreek Hill.

653
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: I think of you have two outside receivers. Let's say

654
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 3: it's one of those elite guys in the draft along

655
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: with Michael Wilson, and then all of a sudden, Hollywood

656
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 3: Brown is truly that ex Is that guy in motion?

657
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 3: Is that guy in the Jets sweep? Kyler Murray? Oh?

658
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 3: Is he giving there to him? Is he not?

659
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: Okay?

660
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, which four to three guy is coming

661
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: my way? Is it gonna be the quarterback on the

662
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 3: keeper on the rpo? Is it gonna be Hollywood Brown

663
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: on a quick pitch or a quick bubble screen? Is

664
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Speaker 3: it gonna be an out and up? And all of

665
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: a sudden a double move from Hollywood Brown. But whenever

666
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: the Cardinals, and this goes back to Kansassey. First time

667
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: the Cardinals went against Tyreek Hill, as soon as he

668
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: was in motion, the entire defense reacts because that's what

669
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 3: scares a defense, is that sort of elite speed and

670
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 3: everyone's pointing to Tyreek Hill. He's over there, and you

671
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: can use that as a decoy if nothing else. And

672
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: so that's why I think the Cardinals do value Hollywood Brown.

673
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: And to your points, great point, you said it, those

674
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 3: other two outside receiver positions, now you can just dial

675
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: up the elite speed guy and that's where you can

676
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: get dastardly right in medieval against a defense. And now

677
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: they try and cover.

678
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: And maybe a blessing in disguise if the Cardinals do

679
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: re sign Hollywood, that all those deep shots that were missed,

680
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: whether that was from Josh Dobbs or Kyle Murray just

681
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: a little bit out of his reach, because.

682
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 3: At least four total, at least four deep shot touchdowns

683
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 3: he missed out on.

684
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: You didn't have the reps. Now all of a sudden,

685
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: you don't have those five six touchdown catches, you don't

686
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: have the extra two hundred and fifty three hundred plus

687
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: yards added to your total. Because teams do look at film,

688
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: they do look at numbers. And remember what Hollywood Brown

689
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: said at the end of last season. Near the end

690
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: of the season, he was comfortable, and I'm paraphrasing here,

691
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: he was comfortable in the film that he put out

692
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: and was asked or asked the coach of staff, what

693
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: do I need to do better? And the response was

694
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. It just wasn't connecting between

695
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: quarterback and wide receiver. But his routes were great. He

696
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: was where he was supposed to be. The ball just

697
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: wasn't where it was needed to be.

698
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: Remember that three game stretch by the Cardinals offense late

699
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: November early December, three game stretch where the receivers combined

700
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 3: for ten catches on thirty three targets. Something happened, something

701
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: bottomed out in those three games. I have no idea,

702
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: but it was sort of like the Bermuda triangle those

703
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 3: three games and all of a sudden, the wide receiver

704
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: production dried up. Now your tight end was going off.

705
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: Trey McBride, James Connor was very productive. The ball was

706
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: going elsewhere a lot. But once again thirty three targets

707
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: in three games to receivers in only ten catches. And

708
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: what was just as amazing was that turned around in

709
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: the last two games. They were very productive. But everyone

710
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: points to Okay, was there a turning point? Was there

711
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: an epiphany Kyler Murray. Did he finally get the rust off.

712
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: I don't know how much of it was Kyler. I

713
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: don't know much of it was offensive centric. I don't

714
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: know how much of it was on the receivers. But

715
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: there was sort of a before and after, sort of

716
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: a mid season slump, if you will, in the return

717
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: of Kyler Murray and getting the receivers involved in the

718
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 3: game plan.

719
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: Well, Michael Wilson told you about the lack of reps

720
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray and then finally getting on the same page.

721
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: Also did some of the staffing as far as the

722
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: game planning going into the week that they change things

723
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: up a little bit, dumb it down, keep it a

724
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: little bit more simple as far as what they were

725
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: asking of everyone, And then they did find something over

726
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: those last two or three games. Kyler Murray specifically, his

727
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: completion percentage was well over seventy percent and he was

728
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: targeting his wide receivers hard to give everyone involved, but

729
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: you do need wide receivers because to your point, ten

730
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: or ten catches on thirty three target that's not sustainable.

731
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: That's not winning football. I don't care how good of

732
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: a tight end you have or running back you have,

733
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: you need that wide receiver position involved.

734
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Speaker 3: And you know what, the Cardinals weren't the only one.

735
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 3: Everyone who followed Kansas City this year when they lost

736
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: five out of eight, one of their takeaways was, you

737
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: know what, this offense is a little too complicated. Patrick

738
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: Mahomes ha gotten to the point where he's so advanced

739
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: in the scheme that they were scheming up stuff and

740
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: dialing stuff up that was a little beyond the capabilities

741
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: of some of their newcomer receivers, because remember a lot

742
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: of those receivers are new on the scene in Kansas City.

743
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 3: And Andy Reid, Matt Naggie, and Patrick Mahomes if you

744
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: believe the account, and they sort of shared it once

745
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 3: they hit the postseason when he said, what was the

746
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 3: big change for Kansas City? All of a sudden the

747
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: offense started to click. Well, they simplified the offense and

748
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: it got the receivers more involved. Maybe some of that

749
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: occurred with the Cardinals. Maybe maybe the receivers got up

750
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: to speed with a quarterback or vice versa, since Kyler

751
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: didn't have an offseason to rep a out of it.

752
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: Drew stand how many times has told us it's absolutely

753
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: critical and vital that you know exactly how a guy

754
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: runs his ten yard out, because receiver runs it a

755
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 3: little bit different. You know where to put the ball,

756
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: sort of like a you know, a pitcher, where do

757
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: you stay away from? A guy wears his strengths and

758
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 3: his weaknesses. Same thing with the receivers. So look, that's

759
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: what makes me so excited, among other things about the

760
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: Cardinals next season. What is this going to look like

761
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 3: when Kyler has a full, complete, legitimate off season and Craig,

762
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: you know, he has been in this facility virtually every

763
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 3: single day. You see the motivation, and so, okay, you

764
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: give him a capable set of receivers, whether it's adding

765
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: one in the top five of the draft, whether it's

766
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: bringing back Hollywood Brown or the combination of both, there's

767
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: gonna be enough firepower for Kyler Murray to get the

768
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: ball to those guys.

769
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: There is a lot of excitement and it's deserved. As

770
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: far as what this front office will do for Jonathan

771
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: Gannon as his coaching staff. Now, do we get a

772
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: hints this week as far as some of those free

773
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: agents to be not hitting the market, or do we

774
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: wait until next week and the new league year beginning

775
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: on March thirteenth, And then of course everyone always gets

776
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: hyped for the draft at the end of April. But

777
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I don't think what gets done in

778
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: free agency will factor in much, if at all, as

779
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: far as what the Cardinals do selecting players, whether that's

780
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: the fourth pick, the twenty seventh pick, the thirty fifth pick.

781
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Free agency, As we heard Manty Austin Ford say at

782
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: the combine, you're supplementing holes. It's not how you construct

783
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: a roster. You do that in April unless.

784
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: You get a guy in his prime. That's the only

785
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: thing I would say, like a Montest sweat for the Bears,

786
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: they made that trade, if something, If indeed, you know

787
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 3: you think Chase Young could be that guy. Obviously he's

788
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: got a lot to overcome based on the film he

789
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: put out there in the postseason, but he's still in

790
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 3: his prime. Although there's a lot of questions exactly will

791
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 3: ever be anywhere near what he was his first couple

792
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 3: of years before the knee injury. But if you can

793
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: get that sort of guy that a team because of

794
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: financial considerations how to let go, then maybe that impact things.

795
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: But once again, I just it makes me wonder without

796
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: a ton of edge rushers, without a ton of d

797
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: linemen in this draft, is that the direction the Cardinals

798
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: go in free agency? We'll see, you know, like just

799
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: watching the drills. I don't know if you had like

800
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 3: a favorite Craig, if there was like a sleeper guy

801
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: that when you were out in Indianapolis. But the guy

802
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: enjoyed watching was Braden Fisk out of Florida State. You

803
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: see that guy run right six three and a half

804
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 3: two ninety two, so agile, and you watch that guy

805
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: go through the drills and he ran the four seven

806
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: eight forty and he broke the tape and he said,

807
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: oh yeah, right, he reacted right. And there were just

808
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: a couple of guys you enjoyed watching move and you

809
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: just start to envision what they would look like in

810
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: a Cardinals uniform.

811
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: Hey, you can visualize a number of these prospects in

812
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: a Cardinals uniform. But we talk about these prospects a

813
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: lot throughout the offseason, and then training camp begins and

814
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: you kind of lose sight of some of these guys.

815
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: But look, it's all all fun and Paul, we still

816
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: have what almost two full months dare I say a

817
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: little less than two full months left to figure out

818
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: what this team or what we think this team might do.

819
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: And I dar said, I do think we'll still be

820
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: surprised on Night one of the draft, whether that's by

821
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: the Cardinals or some other team. It's not gonna be though,

822
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: one of those first three teams, because quarterbacks are going one, two, three.

823
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: I just don't know about the order after Caleb Williams.

824
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: Once again, do not underestimate how teams overestimate a single throw,

825
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: a single moment in a workout can impact things. Go

826
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: back to JaMarcus Russell, one of the all time busts.

827
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: That whole eighty yard plus throw he made, even it

828
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: still happens today. I read a report today J J

829
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 3: McCarthy threw a sixty yarder during the combine and they said, oh,

830
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 3: he does have the arm strength. So wait a minute.

831
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: If JJ McCarthy has everything else as all the intangibles,

832
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: National Championship winning quarterback, what twenty seven and one or

833
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: something ridiculous as a starter, And if he does indeed

834
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 3: have the intellect for the position, and he's only twenty one,

835
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: and now you decided he has the arm strength based

836
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: on one throw on air sixty yards down the field.

837
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: That's how you get a guy coming up the board,

838
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: just like Anthony Richardson did a year ago.

839
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Speaker 1: NFL Network Sean Rapaport on your guy, JJ McCarthy, quote

840
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: maybe closer to the top four qbs than we all thought.

841
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: End quote.

842
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: Yes, and you know what I saw her. Chase Daniel

843
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: on NFL Network, a long time backup quarterback, said about

844
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy, what's his ceiling? Because you never saw it

845
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 3: within the Michigan offense. He has a ceiling that scouts

846
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: and GMS love. He has football IQ, but he wasn't

847
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 3: asked to do a lot in Harbaugh's offense. And so

848
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: then you throw in the fact that he's said to

849
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: have great accuracy and anticipation arguably two of the most

850
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 3: important aspects of being an NFL quarterback. And he's even

851
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: able to do it on the run. He's more mobile,

852
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: I think than a lot thought. He showed that at

853
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: the combine. So I know Darren Urban over there rolls

854
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 3: his eyes with the whole quarterback rising thing, and how

855
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: can you improve your stock? No, it's happening right now

856
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: with JJ McCarthy Paul. Just wait till the pro days begin, exactly,

857
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: and the stock really rises because you should do well

858
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: in your pro day, especially quarterbacks without pads, without a defense.

859
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: You're throwing on air and a controlled environment. You're throwing

860
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 3: to your own wide receivers. But you watch, you listen,

861
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: you read, oh yeah, these quarterbacks, they'll get way up.

862
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: So think about it. If if Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels,

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Speaker 3: and Drake may are all gonna co rush their pro day,

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Speaker 3: if one of those guys happens to be there falls

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Speaker 3: a team wouldn't be willing to give up the house.

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Speaker 3: Once again, I circle back. Let there be a fourth QB,

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Speaker 3: because I would say that there is a team desk.

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Speaker 3: There are only two types of teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You either have your franchise quarterback or you need your

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Speaker 3: franchise quarterback. And if you get your franchise quarterback, is

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Speaker 3: there such a thing as over pain Now there's always

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Speaker 3: a risk, Trey Lance, but if you hit on your guy,

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Speaker 3: there is no price tag that isn't justifiable. And when

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Speaker 3: a team trades up because they think they have the guy,

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Speaker 3: at no point are they considering, oh, this guy's going

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Speaker 3: to be a bust, so they're willing to pay the price.

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Speaker 3: And that's the most intriguing thing about this draft this year.

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Speaker 3: What does that mean for the Arizona Cardinals at four?

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Speaker 1: And the good news is the Cardinals have their guy.

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Speaker 1: They know who their franchise quarterback is in Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: Now it's just about putting pieces around K one, both

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Speaker 1: offensively and defensively. On that note, we will put a

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Speaker 1: lid on This edition of Cardinals. Cover two, presented by Hundai,

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Speaker 1: pro partner of the Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks

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Speaker 1: to our executive producer jim On Mohundro, our associate producer

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Speaker 1: Cody Fincher. For Paul Calvic, I'm Craig Rayal Lou. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Craig. We're going to scrutinize your expense report from Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: That commences immediately