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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast

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Speaker 1: Build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental Wealth podcast.

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Speaker 3: With Jay Glazer.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jay Glazer and joining me today is somebody I've

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Speaker 2: known for a long time.

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Speaker 3: I's seen at Madison Square Garden back in the day,

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Speaker 3: back when I was a young pupp I was hosting

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Speaker 3: the show with.

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Speaker 2: Kurt Menafie called Unnecessary Roughness, and I used to see

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Speaker 2: this cat and then he made.

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Speaker 3: Me laugh my ass off back then, and he still

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Speaker 3: is now.

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Speaker 2: And I actually now he's the political commentator. He's talking about,

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Speaker 2: you know, issues that people don't want to hit, but

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Speaker 2: he's talking about him in terms we could all understand.

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Speaker 2: My dude, Michael Rappaport, one of the funniest, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say it right here, one of.

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Speaker 3: The funniest motherfuckers on the planet.

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Speaker 2: I want to set the stage for you so you'll

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Speaker 2: understand what kind of podcast this is.

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Speaker 3: You have free reign to be you.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, Jay, Thanks for having them. My man,

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Speaker 4: So I know you got a.

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Speaker 3: Million things going on.

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Speaker 2: You just started well, I don't know if you just

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Speaker 2: started new podcast, going your touring all over the place. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I kind of want to talk to you about

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Speaker 2: where your career started, but now kind of where it

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Speaker 2: is now you are just like it's almost like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be the unfiltered voice for the world,

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Speaker 2: whether you like.

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Speaker 3: It or not.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Well, I you know, I started as an actor. Well,

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Speaker 5: I actually started as a stand up comedian. That's my

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Speaker 5: first sort of goal. Dream was to be the next

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Speaker 5: Eddie Murphy or the white Eddie Murphy, and you know,

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Speaker 5: and I wanted to be a stand up comic the

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Speaker 5: way you know in the eighties and nineties stand up comics,

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Speaker 5: you know, would do their stand up and then sort

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Speaker 5: of you know, segue into you know, acting sort of

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Speaker 5: based on their stand up comedy.

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Speaker 4: I was nineteen. I didn't know what I wanted to

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Speaker 4: do with my life.

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Speaker 5: I'd spent my entire youth since I was about ten

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Speaker 5: years old, hoping and dreaming that I'd be in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: That's what I really wanted to be, was a basketball player.

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Speaker 5: And then when I realized that wasn't going anywhere, you know,

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Speaker 5: I said, let me I stand up comedy. And I

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Speaker 5: tried that and I you know, I wasn't that good

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Speaker 5: of a stand up comedy. But as soon as I

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Speaker 5: went on stage in LA, I had moved from New

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Speaker 5: York to LA to pursue this dream. I would get

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Speaker 5: called in for acting auditions, and you know, honestly, the

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Speaker 5: first time I read side the scenes to audition, it

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Speaker 5: was like it made perfect sense to me. It was

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Speaker 5: easier than stand up comedy. It was certainly easier than basketball.

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Speaker 5: Was it just made sense to me, like, you know,

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Speaker 5: acting and expressing emotions and the beats and the sort

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Speaker 5: of fundamentals of acting was like a fish in water.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, this is what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 5: And I started doing that had you know, a lot

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Speaker 5: of success quickly, and you know, I haven't looked back.

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Speaker 5: And I shortly after that I stopped doing stand up comedy,

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Speaker 5: which I'm back doing and now again, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 5: I'm going on tour in the fall.

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Speaker 4: I'll be all over the.

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Speaker 5: Country, touring all over you know, all all the cities

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Speaker 5: I'm actually doing a show in Israel, which I'm excited

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Speaker 5: about that that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: I love it, which I could definitely use some definitely

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Speaker 3: use here that around how perfect.

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Speaker 5: I love it absolutely, and uh, you know, and I

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Speaker 5: fell in love with acting and I'm always gonna love

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Speaker 5: my acting. And as far as like, you know, the

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Speaker 5: social media of it all. You know, in the last

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Speaker 5: ten eleven years, when social media has emerged, I at

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Speaker 5: first I would talk about the mundane. I talk about sports,

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Speaker 5: I talk about popular culture, talk about music, you know,

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Speaker 5: silly things, you know, walking my dog and walcome doing this.

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Speaker 5: And then you know, one day I said something that

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Speaker 5: And you know, I didn't pay attention to politics at all.

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Speaker 5: about that. And you know, as you get older, I think,

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Speaker 4: To balance it all. You know, I'm always gonna love acting.

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Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, now, every single day is changing,

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Speaker 5: you know, political social world, you know, and it's especially

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Speaker 5: this past week it's been one of the craziest weeks

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Speaker 4: To focus on the mundane.

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Speaker 5: You know, I was talking to my friend about last

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Speaker 5: season's fantasy football uh uh season, and I have not

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Speaker 5: only did my team suck, but I wasn't even able

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Speaker 5: everything that that's been going on for the last nine

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Speaker 5: it more because you know, I'm getting pumped up for

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Speaker 5: my fantasy football season, which is up the utmost important,

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Speaker 5: Like whatever you're doing in your life, whatever, the most

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Speaker 5: important thing is how is my team rap reports the

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Speaker 4: But how how am I going to be doing that?

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Speaker 5: That's the utmost important and rightfully so, but that's what

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Speaker 5: sports is great.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm like, you are trying not to watch politics,

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Speaker 2: try not to watch the news, try not to watch social.

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Speaker 3: Media, and sport.

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Speaker 2: I think like this year, especially because when you have

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Speaker 4: You have to.

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Speaker 3: Remember to go to those welcome distractions.

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Speaker 2: That's why I think sports and movies and stuff are

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Speaker 3: But what the real world is if you will.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: And I you know, like I said last season, I

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Speaker 4: But you know, during the.

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Speaker 4: And I wasn't able to do it.

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Speaker 2: But I have them why, like, as a Jewish man

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Speaker 2: in this country stand for me, and you know, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I never talk politics or anything like that. I just

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Speaker 2: think the way we are on our show, we keep

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Speaker 2: away from from things. But yeah, there was a lot

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Speaker 2: to be worried about it just the climate of this country.

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Speaker 2: So it's almost like you're like, and I even't talked

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Speaker 2: about a guys on our show, like guys, I know,

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Speaker 2: I need to talk sports but this happened when we

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Speaker 2: came back from COVID. I'm like, I know I'm supposed

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Speaker 2: feel guilty when people are dying out there, you know,

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Speaker 2: feel guilty when there's hostages still out there. And but Jay,

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Speaker 2: this is your job. You've got to do this. So

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Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying. And we, I think, do

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Speaker 2: have to do a better job of making sure we find.

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Speaker 3: A balance that we keep.

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Speaker 2: You look, if we have to fight one fight on

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Speaker 3: We almost have to force.

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Speaker 4: Ourselves to one hundred percent, you know, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: You know, And and it is tough and the balance

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Speaker 5: and you know, what you should say, what you shouldn't say,

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Speaker 4: You know? For me, I just jump in.

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Speaker 5: I say what I want when I want to say it.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I don't think of ramifications. I don't

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Speaker 4: And you know, especially regarding social.

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Speaker 5: Media, when I do that, that's why it comes off

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Speaker 5: uh for for for for those those thoughts and those

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Speaker 4: But it's it's it's a crazy time.

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Speaker 5: It's it's a crazy time, and you know time, it's

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Speaker 5: be you know, you think like the the like I

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Speaker 5: said the sports news, you know, you know when you

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Speaker 5: do your updates game right before is this person playing?

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Speaker 5: Is this person not playing? You know, and you're giving

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Speaker 5: us this information. I mean, you know it's like you

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Speaker 5: know so and that's fun. For the most part, it's fun.

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Speaker 4: You know if somebody's not injured, you know, like this

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Speaker 4: You know all that.

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Speaker 5: Stuff which which we wait for your your updates every morning.

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Speaker 5: How do you get those those updates? Is it coming

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Speaker 5: in via text? Are you getting phone calls? I know

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Speaker 2: In this No I'm out stadium and was it well

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Speaker 2: only only a postseason but no, it's constant text and

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Speaker 2: and dun stop.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: It was like there was a quarterback who was uh

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Speaker 3: And my producer's like, hey, so we got to come

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Speaker 3: and say he's out. I'm like, he's not out. He's like,

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Speaker 3: what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: I said, my guy is making the decision and he's

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Speaker 2: ten feet fromhim right now, texting me in real time

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Speaker 2: what's going on. And here's the truth. They just gave

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Speaker 2: him a turtle injection. And my guy's like, what's out.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that's the other thing you guys don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Turtle takes a half out to really kick in. They

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Speaker 2: gave him a turtle. Then they're shooting them over here

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Speaker 2: with Lighty Kane and so we're gonna know him about

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Speaker 2: half hour. But I'm not willing to go with it.

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Speaker 2: And my producer was like, you're fucking crazy, but we're

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Speaker 2: going you're crazy. And I'm literally getting it in real time,

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Speaker 2: real time, real time, and I'm like and I'm sending

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Speaker 2: is the so we're all work?

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Speaker 2: Man, they're shame or they'll have somebody whople say they've learned,

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Speaker 3: I've become a lot more tame and almost like, all right,

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Speaker 2: In the past, I was crazy because I figured I'd

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Speaker 2: And now I'm like, all right, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: You are attacking social media in a way where you

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Speaker 5: You know the way I compartmentalize it and the way

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Speaker 4: Uh, don't try.

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Speaker 3: I say it doesn't hurt the feelings.

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Speaker 5: To be totally honest with you, you know, I got

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Speaker 4: That's a fact. That is a fact.

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Speaker 5: Really, And fuck yeah, there's so many fake accounts, puppet

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Speaker 2: to I did melt down a couple of years ago.

440
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,320
Speaker 2: I reported that out of nowhere that Giants we're going

441
00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,639
Speaker 2: to trade Odell Beckham, and you Giant fans, what fucking

442
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,679
Speaker 2: ballistic on me?

443
00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,080
Speaker 3: By the way, I've been covering the team since ninety three.

444
00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,520
Speaker 2: So then I get mad, going, oh shit, Gladiers said

445
00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,240
Speaker 2: that must be true, and they did it, and I

446
00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,359
Speaker 2: ended up sending out a tweet, and I've got in

447
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,240
Speaker 2: trouble a couple of times.

448
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,119
Speaker 3: I regret it.

449
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,520
Speaker 2: One time I got into it with some OF's wife what.

450
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 2: I liked the guy a lot and probably should have

451
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 2: I definitely shouldn't say what I said.

452
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,440
Speaker 3: I was coming back from a fighting.

453
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,719
Speaker 2: But chuck Leedell and he just lost and I was

454
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 2: with him and I was in a bad mood. But

455
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 2: a couple of times I kind of do shit and

456
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 2: but this one was to all those giant fans who

457
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:24,560
Speaker 2: were killing me.

458
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, all you fuck sticks out there who.

459
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 2: Got mad at me and my mom and my kid's

460
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 2: mom and my son's like all this shit. I said,

461
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,119
Speaker 2: do you get this man when your kid gets a

462
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 2: D on the report card? No, so shut the fuck up,

463
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,240
Speaker 2: leave me the fuck alone. And it went it's about

464
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,360
Speaker 2: viral thing I ever did, and really yeah, my bosters

465
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,920
Speaker 2: were and then Strayhand was even like, bro, we all

466
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 2: wish we could do that.

467
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 3: That's who you are. You're that guy now right back

468
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:49,880
Speaker 3: that guy.

469
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 2: And they called me, they go, hey, y okay, I'm like,

470
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 2: yem fine, They go, well, you you know, did you

471
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,199
Speaker 2: really have to call people fox sticks? And said I

472
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,640
Speaker 2: did because they weren't just hitting me. They're going on

473
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 2: my friends. And then people who I was helping with sobriety,

474
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 2: they're going on here Instagram saying hey, I hope you

475
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 2: fucking fall up because you're you're friends with this guy.

476
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: I hope you fucking you junkie this and fucking terrible.

477
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 2: Who would say that's crazy?

478
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 5: That's crazy And if the if the worst thing you said,

479
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 5: it's fox sticks.

480
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 4: I mean, it's good, that's g rating for you. It's sticks.

481
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 5: I mean, that's like, that's what at least it's an

482
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 5: insult that makes you like a fox stick is a funny.

483
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,199
Speaker 2: So I got another question pre here, but I know,

484
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 2: fuck I got you know clinical ADHD.

485
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 3: I know you have.

486
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 2: You've talked about your A D D. Also, so you

487
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 2: said the sides for you when you're acting were easy. Yes,

488
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you how so what I did?

489
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: I did five years of Ballers, right, and yeah, I

490
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 2: got saying thing. I couldn't remember any when I do Fox,

491
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 2: I don't have any Telepropter. I just go and you know,

492
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 2: I have to names the guys I'm gonna talk about

493
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 2: for the ins and ounce, but none of us besides

494
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 2: Kurtent of Telepropter, we just go. But also I wasn't

495
00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: really able with my add to remember ship and if

496
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 2: finally Dwayne, thank god, the Rockers, just like, just just

497
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 2: just let him be him.

498
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 3: Just don't feel like I'm like I said, right, just

499
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 3: let him do him.

500
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: How are you able to remember pages and pages of

501
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 2: copy to remember of your lines and side?

502
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 5: You know, you you go over it. It's it's like

503
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 5: a muscle it's like a memory muscle. For me, it's

504
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 5: like a memory muscle. It's like if you you know,

505
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 5: you're doing a weird exercise and you know, like a

506
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 5: burpie or something like that. It's like eventually you'll it'll

507
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 5: start to become easier and easier, and and to be honest,

508
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 5: if it's good writing, I have no problem with it.

509
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 5: Like the only time I've had problems with with lines

510
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 5: or scenes. And one thing people don't understand is when

511
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 5: you shoot a movie, you shoot a TV show, you

512
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 5: shoot that scene, whether it's a one page scene, a

513
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 5: five page scene, so you're not focusing on the whole

514
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty page script or sixty page script.

515
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 5: If you're doing TV, you show.

516
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 3: It over and over and over and over.

517
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly. But but in general, as far as

518
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 5: memory memorizing lines and stuff like that, it's it's not

519
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 5: that hard, particularly if it's if it's good writing. If

520
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 5: it's good writing, and this is what we do, you know,

521
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 5: like this is this is what I do. And it

522
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 5: just like I said, you know, I spent you know, hours,

523
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 5: more than ten thousand hours hoping, praying, working on my

524
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 5: left hand, working on my right hand, you know, crossover dribble,

525
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 5: step back dribble, you know, step back, jump shut.

526
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 4: And it just never came as easy.

527
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 5: As acting to me. And it just makes sense to me.

528
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 5: It just makes sense to me. And performing, you know,

529
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 5: it just it makes.

530
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 4: Sense to me, right Like.

531
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 5: It's just like it's a it's like an intrinsic thing.

532
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 4: It's just like like a natural thing.

533
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 5: Not to say that I don't work at it, but

534
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 5: it just it just comes naturally to me. And getting

535
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 5: the emotions and all that stuff, it all comes naturally

536
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 5: to me.

537
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,479
Speaker 3: You know again, you started a stand up comic. I

538
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: actually started as coming in nineteen eighty nine, what a

539
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 3: lot of people don't know.

540
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: And that to me was way harder than getting kicked

541
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: in my face by Chuck Wodell in a cage.

542
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

543
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 3: It's because I felt like I had no control. I

544
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 3: felt like I get it right, like if I had.

545
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 3: You got a great set.

546
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: But like the guy before you shit the bed or

547
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: the waiter sucks, or the someone in the crow, whatever

548
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 2: it is. I mean, what for you is the hardest

549
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: thing about comedy and the easiest thing.

550
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 4: That's a good question. The easiest thing is I never

551
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 4: had any fear.

552
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 5: You know, you get nervous sometimes a big show, you know,

553
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 5: or or if you're doing new stuff, there.

554
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 4: Might be a little tinge of adrenaline.

555
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 5: That's the easiest part of it, you know, I would

556
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 5: say the hardest part of it is, you know, writing,

557
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 5: coming up with new stuff, coming up with stuff that's

558
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 5: totally genuine to me. And but you know, the silence

559
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 5: never never made me feel scared. You know, failing never

560
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 5: made me feel scared. On stage, I would be way

561
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 5: more concerned about getting kicked in the face by Chuck

562
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 5: Ladell or you or any any any anybody else, and

563
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 5: that would be way more of a concern for me.

564
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 4: You know.

565
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 5: The reality about stand up is, you know, for the

566
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,239
Speaker 5: most part, unless you're at that level where people are

567
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 5: just gonna laugh, you know, Kevin Hart, the great ones,

568
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 5: the big ones who people come to see and they

569
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 5: spend their money. You know, they've built this such a

570
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 5: trust with the audience. Uh, and they've earned that, Jerry Seinfel,

571
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 5: whoever it is, they know that at a certain point

572
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 5: they're getting laughs because of who they are.

573
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 4: You know, and obviously they fight through that.

574
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, you know, if

575
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 5: you're doing, you know, just you know, a spot at

576
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 5: the improv or a spot at the laugh actor are

577
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 5: like a local club. You know, Uh, some nights you

578
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 5: got it, some nights you don't have it. You could

579
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 5: bring some shitty energy to a crowd and it not

580
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 5: worked you. The crowd just might not be driving with

581
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 5: you. You might not be on your game, and you know,

582
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 5: it's like it's like bad, it's like batting. It's like, yo,

583
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 5: all right, I struck out next night. You you keep going.

584
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 5: I don't take that ship personally. I think you know,

585
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: a lot of stand up comics.

586
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 4: State they struggle with that, you know, specific specifically.

587
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 5: Stand up comic. I think that's why they get, you know,

588
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 5: they're they're they're very specific breed. I consider myself.

589
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 4: An actor before I am a stand up comic.

590
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 5: Like stand up comedians, their personality is fucked up, like

591
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 5: pure stand ups.

592
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: They're they're weird. They're weirder than actors and they're weirder

593
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 4: than you.

594
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 5: And that's hard to be wed h J. But you know,

595
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 5: I just keep it in perspective, and you know, if

596
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 5: you kick ass, I don't think I'm you know, Eddie

597
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 5: Murphy in the Red suit and and if I if

598
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 5: I suck, I don't think that you know that there's

599
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 5: there's not the next show.

600
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: You know, you just keep keep swinging. And I know

601
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 4: that sounds kind of basic, cause.

602
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 5: If like that, but that's just how I I keep,

603
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 5: you know, I keep a level sort of playing field

604
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 5: with myself.

605
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 4: I'm fair to myself.

606
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 5: And like I said, I'm my biggest critic and my

607
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 5: biggest fan.

608
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: I understand the biggest fan part, right, kind of love

609
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: yourself up. A lot of us don't know how to

610
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: love ourselves up. You have to write and we have

611
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: to give ourselves grace. And most people they just well,

612
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say most, a lot too many, Oh know

613
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 2: how we have to practice that. If I get up

614
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: every morning, I'll put a song on it, I'll meditate.

615
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: And now i'll meditate, I'll think about things that I

616
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: am grateful for. For one song, it could be anything.

617
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: It could be fucking pair of shoes I was going by,

618
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: but it could be things I've done in the past.

619
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: It could be the same thing over and over and over.

620
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: But then also things. The next song is things I'm

621
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 2: proud of, and I I've got.

622
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: To work at it. I've got to work at being

623
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 3: proud at these things.

624
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 2: And you know, people look and they feel like, well,

625
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm not being humble if I'm bragging about myself. Fuck,

626
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: yes you are. You you did it. It ain't bragging

627
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: if it's true, you can do it right. So but

628
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: my question is how what to look like to be

629
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: your biggest critic?

630
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

631
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 4: That's a good question.

632
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 5: What it looks like to me to be my biggest

633
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 5: critic is it's really in relationships. You know, all the

634
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 5: business shit and acting and you know this show, that

635
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 5: show and this takes that take, you know, this meeting

636
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 5: that shit is.

637
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: It's it's really like in my personal life. You know,

638
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 4: it's really with my wife. It's really like how.

639
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: I behave uh, you know, throughout the day, how I

640
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 5: keep you know, I'm a very emotional person, as you

641
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 5: can imagine. And you know, sometimes with my emotions, you know,

642
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 5: get the better of me.

643
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 4: They've gotten I've gotten way better as.

644
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 5: As I've getting gotten older, and and it could just

645
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 5: be you know, even in the car seeing you motherfucker

646
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 5: get the fuck out of my way. You know, like

647
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 5: I used to not even pay attention to that kind

648
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 5: of thing. Just simple as that. I'm not telling them

649
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 5: like I'm never like crazy road rage person, but even

650
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 5: simple as that or you know, stupid shit like traffic.

651
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 5: But you know, just being the best person I can't

652
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 5: be in the best listener I can, and being in

653
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 5: control of my emotions, and and being you know, the

654
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 5: best husband, the best father, the best friend, and and

655
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 5: you know, and and the list goes down. But it really,

656
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 5: you know, has to do with you know, the personal

657
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Speaker 5: ship is the most important, and you know the other things.

658
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Speaker 5: You know, I feel like I have a good traction

659
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Speaker 5: on professional life, you know.

660
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Speaker 4: But but I'm you know, sorry as being grateful.

661
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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm certainly you know, during this hostage crisis,

662
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Speaker 5: you know, Jay.

663
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Speaker 4: You know, like really, you know, being grateful.

664
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Speaker 5: It sounds stupid, you know, or it sounds sort of cliche,

665
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 5: but like being grateful to be able to wake up

666
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Speaker 5: in my own bed, being grateful to be able to,

667
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 5: you know, go piss when I want to piss to

668
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 5: being grateful to be able to you know, get a

669
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Speaker 5: kiss and a hug like these these things have gotten

670
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 5: so much more important to me, and I've become a

671
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: lot more aware of them. To be totally honest with you,

672
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 5: you know, through throughout this because I know that so

673
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 5: many other people you know, can't. And and and I'm

674
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Speaker 5: conscious of that, you know, throughout the day.

675
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Speaker 4: I really am.

676
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 5: And and you know, and I and I and I am.

677
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 5: I'm aware of that every single day. And and you know,

678
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Speaker 5: the more and more I think I'm aware of those things.

679
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Speaker 5: You know, there's a you know, it gets bigger and

680
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 5: bigger of what you can do, what you can't do,

681
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: what you you know, the blessing to be even have internet,

682
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Speaker 5: to be able to talk to you on this, you know.

683
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Speaker 5: I mean there's so many different things that I can't

684
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Speaker 5: complain about, you know, if fucking traffic or you know,

685
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 5: my my coffee getting fucked up. It's like, you know,

686
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Speaker 5: I live a super duper blessed life, you know, and

687
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Speaker 5: my health fortunately is in good, you know condition.

688
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Speaker 4: So it's hard to you know, really really complain about

689
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Speaker 4: a lot. That's the truth.

690
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Speaker 2: Look, I love the fact that you're constantly out there also,

691
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: you know, make sure everybody knows that there's still houses

692
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Speaker 2: just God, and I love that.

693
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Speaker 3: I love that.

694
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Speaker 2: And I think the whole thing has kind of got

695
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: convoluted of you know, between war of Israel and God's

696
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: and what's going on. But it really is about those

697
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: people that we're living everyday lives and all of a

698
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: sudden their lives were taken from them, and we people

699
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: have kind of lost their eye on the ball, in

700
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Speaker 2: my opinion.

701
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Speaker 3: So I do appreciate that you've constantly done that.

702
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Speaker 2: You just and again, I had a guest on here

703
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Speaker 2: and I'm Shawshanna Johnson, the first ever black female American

704
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: pow and her description and she was caught. She was

705
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Speaker 2: in captive for keptating for twenty two days, and she

706
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: told she was a day away from losing her life.

707
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: She thought she got her last meal the night before

708
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Speaker 2: next to Saddam's hometown to greet.

709
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Speaker 3: They kept moving her.

710
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Speaker 2: But she said, right when it happened, she said, and

711
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Speaker 2: this is on the podcast, she said, I they did

712
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Speaker 2: mean the same thing that Amasa has done to the

713
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Speaker 2: Israelis that they've taken from the music.

714
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Speaker 3: Festival and the kibbutz. She said, they put me in

715
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Speaker 3: the back.

716
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Speaker 2: Of a truck and they spit at me, and they

717
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Speaker 2: beat me, and they paraded me from town to town

718
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Speaker 2: and she got put I think at seven different places.

719
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Speaker 3: And it's just man's it's not the way God wanted

720
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Speaker 3: a stack. Let's say that. Okay, not at all.

721
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Speaker 2: And you know, again, I think we've lost track of

722
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Speaker 2: those innocent.

723
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Speaker 3: People you were just there.

724
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Speaker 2: How was the experience for you in Israel when you

725
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Speaker 2: were there? And also like, how are I know what's

726
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: going on? How is the relationship and I don't want

727
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Speaker 2: to diving a whole political thing or the relationship inside

728
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Speaker 2: Israel between the Israelis and the the Iarbs who lived

729
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Speaker 2: there together.

730
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Speaker 5: From what you saw, yeah, well, you know, obviously Israel

731
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 5: there's a lot of sadness, there's a lot of heartbreak,

732
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Speaker 5: There's a tremendous amount of of PTSD.

733
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Speaker 4: It's a small place, you know, Israel is the size

734
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Speaker 4: of New Jersey.

735
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Speaker 5: You know, the populated areas are are even you know closer.

736
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Speaker 5: You know, everybody knows somebody who was unfortunately either killed

737
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 5: or kidnapped or kidnapped and released or injured on October seventh.

738
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Speaker 5: And when I say everybody, I mean everybody from here. Yeah,

739
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 5: I mean everybody, every single person. So you know the

740
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Speaker 5: fact that it's ongoing, you know, people haven't been able

741
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Speaker 5: to mourn correctly, you know, because you know, how can

742
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 5: you mourn when this is still happening.

743
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 4: You know, there is something, you know, we talk about.

744
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 5: Like New Yorkers, there's a thing about us, you know,

745
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 5: you talk about you know, like there's a certain thing

746
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 5: about and and and there is a there is a

747
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 5: thing about the people of Israel.

748
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Speaker 4: And there's a thing about the Jewish people. And it

749
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: is true.

750
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Speaker 5: They have a light and a resilience and a lust

751
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 5: for life, a true lust for life. And you talk

752
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: about being appreciating the little things and appreciating light. That

753
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 5: is as a it's a characteristic that you'll find in

754
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 5: israelis as soon as you get there, through through crisis.

755
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 4: And and and not through crisis.

756
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 5: They have a lust and appreciation for life, and there's

757
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Speaker 5: a light within them.

758
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Speaker 4: You know.

759
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Speaker 5: As far as the way you know, people are getting along,

760
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 5: it's hard for me to answer that. You know, I

761
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 5: think it's in general, you know, at the end of

762
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 5: the day, I think that people just want to live

763
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 5: their lives. And people want to, you know, want everything

764
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 5: around the world. You know, people want to wake up,

765
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 5: they want to you know, be able to take care

766
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Speaker 5: of themselves. They want safety, they want you know, their

767
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 5: family to be able to eat.

768
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Speaker 4: You know, two three meals a day, you know, you

769
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Speaker 4: want a couple of weeks of vacation, you know.

770
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Speaker 5: And I think that the one thing that you know

771
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Speaker 5: is a parent, you know, without going too far in

772
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Speaker 5: the politics of it all.

773
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Speaker 4: Jays is that the reality is that Israel.

774
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Speaker 5: Whether you think they have a right to exist or not,

775
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 5: they have been you know, Israel has been attacked ten

776
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Speaker 5: hours after it was announced as a state, literally ten

777
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 5: hours afterward was announced as a state forty eight years ago,

778
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Speaker 5: and it's been under attack ever since then.

779
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: And that there are some people that that never wanted.

780
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Speaker 5: It to exist and do not want it to exist

781
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 5: seventy five years later.

782
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Speaker 4: You know.

783
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Speaker 5: I think that's why you have the lust and the

784
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 5: appreciation for life within Israel, and also the the resilience

785
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 5: to continue to be tough and not take any shit.

786
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's try because you're talking about, you know,

787
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: the right to exist. Everybody's had the right to exist.

788
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous that we don't.

789
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Speaker 2: And it's not just Israel and God's and parasites, places

790
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: in Africa, places, I mean, there's been it's constant, you know,

791
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 2: through our history.

792
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 3: But it's funny. I get the questions, and kids asked

793
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 3: me so often that I was like, how come we

794
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: already has you?

795
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: Why?

796
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: Everybody? You know? It's like, why doverybody hate you guys? Why?

797
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: And so it's like.

798
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Speaker 2: It's now bringing an issue to be able to talk

799
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: to my friends. Look, I grew up in Jersey Shore

800
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: looking like I'm Italian and.

801
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: I'm Jewish, so I heard it all.

802
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: I heard the closet stuff coming out and saying stuff,

803
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: and I had to defend myself early on.

804
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 3: But it look, it shouldn't be with any group.

805
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: I am one of the guys who believes it should

806
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: be one united world under God, and I'll live that

807
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: for the rest of my life.

808
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: I'm never not going to live that way. I'm gonna

809
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: believe it, and I know it's not It's kind.

810
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: Of hard when everybody has, you know, different beliefs, how

811
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: they go along. But for to hate any group, whether

812
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: it's Jews or Blacks or Mexicans, are Asian, whoever it is,

813
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: because of how they look or how they have, there's

814
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 2: certain how they live their culture is ridiculous.

815
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Speaker 3: Frankly has nothing to do with you, right.

816
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 4: And it's fucking ridiculous.

817
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeahs ridiculous.

818
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: Like, I'm never gonna shame someone because they were brought

819
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: up differently in a different set of cultures that they

820
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: were born into. It's nothing to do with them. So

821
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: I just think it's look, I think I wish the

822
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: rest of the world would look at it like, hey,

823
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: it is one united of world under God.

824
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: Uh.

825
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: But I know that's just that's a far cry. But

826
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Speaker 3: I just want to say, man, I.

827
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Speaker 2: Appreciate you bringing the attention for those hostages and also

828
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: for their you know, differences and how kind of people

829
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: go about this oh right to exist thing. So it's

830
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: just I know it's not We're certainly not a political podcast,

831
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: but I do think voices like yours.

832
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: Are important that caunteract, the ones that make no sense,

833
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 3: they're born out of ignorance. I really appreciate it.

834
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Speaker 4: Man, I appreciate it.

835
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Speaker 3: Quick here talk about your podcast.

836
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 4: Uh, the im Rapp Reports Stereo podcast, which is, uh,

837
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: you know, we've been going.

838
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 5: You know, we started before everybody and their cousin and

839
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 5: their mother and their sister has had a podcast. I

840
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 5: would love for you to be a guest because I

841
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 5: have so many kids. I could ask.

842
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Speaker 4: You because.

843
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, being Pittsburgh, San Francisco all over the country and

844
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: all tickets information is available Michael Rapportcomedy dot com.

845
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Speaker 4: And you know, and I'm just you know, doing my thing.

846
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 5: And then, uh, you know, like I said, I'm pumped

847
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 5: up for fantasy football.

848
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: I'm psyched up for fantasy football.

849
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: Uh you got one team? How many teams in leads?

850
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 4: You got two teams? Two teams?

851
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 5: And like I said, last year, in one of my leagues,

852
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 5: in the Stern Show, the Howard Stern Show League, I

853
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 5: went to the finals that law and lost, which means

854
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 5: I lost. I don't know why I came in second place.

855
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 5: No one gives a shit that you can't listen. No

856
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 5: one gives a shit that you came in second place

857
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 5: in the NFL. Certainly no one gives a ship that

858
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 5: you came in second place in your fantasy football league.

859
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Speaker 4: So I love that. And then in my money league,

860
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Speaker 4: I took a fucking bath.

861
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 5: And I'm talking about a big bubble bath with a

862
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 5: rubber ducky that's always And I am not used to

863
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 5: losing my fantasy football So you know, revenge is going

864
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 5: to be served out all over the place, and I'm

865
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 5: gonna be I just I'm so excited for this season.

866
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 5: There's so many questions, so many new faces, new places.

867
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Speaker 4: You know, it's a.

868
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: Fast reality show on the planet. Right is the greatest

869
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Speaker 2: reality show.

870
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Speaker 3: On the planet.

871
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: And half the time listen, I put out about one percent.

872
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: I want to know, have you gared the other shit?

873
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 3: You'd be like you bowlers was tame?

874
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: It's not the shit we really know is it's funny

875
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: and the world doesn't know this the other reports kind

876
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: of do. Every NFL Owners meeting, I go and I

877
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: have a thing just with me and all the coaches.

878
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: This year we had twenty five of us, just me

879
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: and the coaches, no one else. You and the head coaches,

880
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: twenty five us and a couple gms. Right, And I've

881
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: been doing this Mike Tomlin.

882
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: And I started. It's like seventeen years ago.

883
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: But we start telling the new head coaches, hey man,

884
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: this is what's about to come across your desk, and

885
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: I make the old coaches tell them the crazy shit

886
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: that's happened to them, which is which I can't say here.

887
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 5: But it's so it's just like private stuff.

888
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: Yes, but that's really happened.

889
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: So if you if I if you went in right

890
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: now and try to sell a Hollywood script and I

891
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: gave you these stories that actually happened. They would laugh

892
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: you out of the room and saying there's no way

893
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: these things happened. They're so outlandish, there's no way they happened.

894
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: And it's just it's fucking unbelievable. It is the greatest

895
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: reality show the world.

896
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: But I mean, there are ships, there's shit that goes on.

897
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: That's just. And the crazy thing is these are coaches.

898
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: They're not.

899
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: They didn't get most of them. They didn't get mastered

900
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: in psychology. They didn't you know, they weren't schooled in

901
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: how to be therapists. And all of a sudden they

902
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: go from you know, calling x's and o's to being

903
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: a head coach is more about all the ship that

904
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: comes across your desk than it is about the xident os.

905
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: Really, same with the g.

906
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 4: Sure, and let me ask you a question.

907
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question because I know we

908
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 5: don't have a lot of time, and I have.

909
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: All these questions for you.

910
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 5: And I was in your gym one time and Jadavian Clowney,

911
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 5: Jadavian Clowney was in.

912
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 4: There and and I just was like, I like, you was.

913
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 3: On there with with fifteen other players.

914
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 5: But I just remember because I was like, you know,

915
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 5: like I saw him in like I've been around NBA players,

916
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 5: but I was like, he looks like an NBA player. Yeah,

917
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 5: like you know, I don't want to say on steroids

918
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 5: because I know he's not on serious, but like he's

919
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 5: built like an NBA player, but like sixty pounds heavier,

920
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 5: and and I was just like holy shit, and wrestled

921
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 5: as yeah, that's what.

922
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 3: Who are the.

923
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 5: Three most spectacular athletes that you've like wrestled with, Like, like,

924
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 5: I know there's probably ten of them, twenty of them,

925
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 5: and I know you can go on and on, but

926
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 5: if you said, like off the top of your head

927
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 5: with you know, without and I know you're gonna run

928
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 5: people out, but if I said, who are the three

929
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 5: most impressive app I think that you've had in the gym.

930
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 4: Not on a field, but you've had firstly in the gym.

931
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: So all right, yeah, I've trained, Like I said myself,

932
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: I started this program in two thousand and seven with

933
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: Jared Allen, who was like a part time d end

934
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: and a full time long snapper. People don't remember that

935
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: they trained with us. He went out and got fifteen sacks,

936
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: highest contract.

937
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: Ever and that everybody called said whatever you did for him,

938
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: do it for us.

939
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: And the next guy was Patrick Willison and Brian Cushing

940
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: and then Clay Matthews. He went from ten sacks to

941
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: seventeen and then the flugates open.

942
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: Everyone called. So I teamed up with Randy Gatour and

943
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: we brought in like Chuck Ladell and Jay Iron and

944
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 3: Tyron Woodley and all.

945
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: These people over the years to come up with this,

946
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: m am a training program for guys where it was

947
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: also like, we're gonna teach football players to turn it

948
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: into a fight, and we're gonna give him this fight

949
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: the fighter mentality. At the same time, these football players

950
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: are going to teach all my fighters the sport.

951
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: IQ.

952
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: You've got to be brilliant to play football, dude, brilliant

953
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: like you talked about add I can't remember like you

954
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: know lines.

955
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: These cats have a book of shit that they have

956
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: to remember. And the plays.

957
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: It's not in English, you know, it's thirty two double trip,

958
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: call my Eggy, Papa Smurf albut Querque.

959
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 3: You know, slam damn thank you, ma'am. Fourteen double rod salad.

960
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: It's fucking crazy and then all cha pages and pages,

961
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: so you got to be brilliant, but also like teaching.

962
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: Like these guys would watch film over and over and

963
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: over and over and over to look for the littlest nuance.

964
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: And I would sit there. Look, I'm blessed.

965
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: My best friend was Strayant, and he I didn't have

966
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: enough money when I started to go from New York

967
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: City to take a subway to a bus to Giants Stadium,

968
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: back and forth every day. So Michael drive me back

969
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: home every single day from ninety three to ninety nine,

970
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: twenty eight Grand and Lincoln Tunnel fair.

971
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: But I'd sit there with them. He watched film and

972
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 3: watch film and watch film. He'd be like, dud, dude,

973
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: look at this. Look at this. I'm like, what are

974
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: you look at it?

975
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: It's like, look notice this on third downs when they're

976
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 2: gonna run a certain play, watch the right guard's elbow.

977
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, what are we looking at He's like, look

978
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: at twitches. I'm like, the fuck are you looking at it?

979
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: He's like, look at twitches on run blades, watch this,

980
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: watch the difference. I'm like, bro, I can't see what

981
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: you're fucking talking about. Eventually, over after years of it.

982
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: I started seeing it for it's glaring. But then I

983
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: started having like having these guys teach the fighters the

984
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: same thing, these nuance, these little things because they just

985
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: went out fought right. So and Randy Gatour is really

986
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: the first to start watching film and they can do that.

987
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: But back to your things.

988
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: So we've done so many of these guys, and I'm

989
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: going to talk about like the most impressive listened out

990
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: in Cleveland. We tr train Miles Garrett and the first

991
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 2: time we teach him a lot of an fighting.

992
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 3: The first time he did everything anything to me.

993
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: And now this huge pan of my forum and I've

994
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: been get hundreds and hundreds of dns do shit and

995
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: strike my forms. I'm like, that shit fucking hurt. Damn

996
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: his sockside. So Miles was like really high up there,

997
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: he went, how.

998
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 4: Big is he? How tall is he?

999
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 3: Well, I think he's like six ' five to eighty whatever,

1000
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: but he is so solid and so he cracked through

1001
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: the strongest is Kyle Long. Holy shit, he is fucking ridiculous.

1002
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: And Kyle, I've known him since he was like seven

1003
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: or nine, so he looks still like to me his

1004
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: uncle Glaze, you know. And big breather, so he still

1005
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: like will jump on my back when I'm out, looking

1006
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: like he's still seven years old. He's fucking three forty.

1007
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: This year I was able to work a little with

1008
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: Max Crosby. He's different, he's gumbay, he gets you know again,

1009
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm five seven and I'm wrestling with these guys. My

1010
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: whole thing is keep your base, but get under me.

1011
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: We teach him kind of greg Our Roman wrestling, because

1012
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: you can't touch below the waist to really helps lineman.

1013
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: He was able to bend.

1014
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: All the way under me and still have strength and leverage,

1015
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: and that was pretty fucking sick. Man the words and

1016
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, oh, but athletic wise, Odell Beckham

1017
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 2: like he would do it wasn't even he just picks

1018
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: shit up so fast. But then he would do other

1019
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: stuff in the gym, like like agility work, where the

1020
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: whole gym would just stop.

1021
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: And be like, what the fuck was that? Like I

1022
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 3: ain't never seen anything like that before, And yeah, it's

1023
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: it's pretty cool.

1024
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: By the way, real quick, the way Jadavian Clowney came

1025
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: to us, I meant the orders meet and his head

1026
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: coach Bill O'Brien.

1027
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: I't really met him yet. I was with a bunch

1028
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: of guys.

1029
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: I was friends with my John Fox and Bruce Arians

1030
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: and Seam Payton, all these guys and Tomlin and I

1031
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: have this, like you said, that New York attitude, right,

1032
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: I have it. And Bill O'Brien said something to me,

1033
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: like they asked him something.

1034
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 3: He goes, hey, I better not see this on Fox

1035
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: sports dot com.

1036
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: And I said, motherfucker, who the fuck you think you're

1037
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: talking to. Don't ever fucking embarrass me in front of.

1038
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: My guys and my too. I will beat the fuck

1039
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: out of you. I said that. And he looked to

1040
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: me and I said, just.

1041
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: Because you coach football and I don't, does not mean

1042
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: you can whip my ass.

1043
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: And you can't because I'll beat the dog fuck out you.

1044
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: Don't you ever? And all the other coach said well,

1045
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: well well, and Bill goes, is he really liked this

1046
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: all the time?

1047
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: And Tomlin's like, absolutely absolutely, Bill, don't go And he's like,

1048
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 2: holy shit, I.

1049
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 3: Got to start sending some players to you about it.

1050
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: And I clowny. He goes, if you could get over that,

1051
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: clowny were set. He had him on a plane to

1052
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 2: me the next week that's just funny. Yeah, not taking ship.

1053
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 2: But it's also like again, you it's it's it isn't

1054
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: authenticity we have. And that's why I said, I feel

1055
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: like I'm losing mine as I've gotten I guess more refined,

1056
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: if you will. But I like that version of me better.

1057
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: But I also know that version of me gets on hints.

1058
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to get my mental health in a

1059
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: better place and not always unhinge. I call it the beast.

1060
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 2: I love that beast. But I saw Mike Tyson talking

1061
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: about I'm working on the art of humility now, and

1062
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: it's it's hard. It's hard to balance him.

1063
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 4: I totally understand. I totally understand, and I think you know,

1064
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: I think you know.

1065
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 5: It's it's age, it's mistakes, it's you know, wanting to

1066
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 5: learn from the mistakes.

1067
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 4: And I think it's I think you're in a good place.

1068
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 4: And I think that you know you.

1069
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 5: You you hit the gym enough to be able to

1070
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 5: get all.

1071
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: The you know, the dogs to count down. Yeah, exactly.

1072
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 5: Listen, you gotta be able to have to man, you

1073
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 5: can't keep up especial if we get older.

1074
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 4: Man, you know you gotta be able to. You got

1075
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 4: to be able to at least learn from your mistakes.

1076
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 3: You can't lay that shield down somehow.

1077
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, ship man, If you can't learn from your own mistakes,

1078
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 5: then you.

1079
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: Know, fuck you gotta you gotta it.

1080
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 5: You know, got to me making another mistake, but I'll

1081
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 5: keep learning from him.

1082
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm asking one last question here, brother, I asked, all

1083
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 2: I guess this. Yeah, it's called Unbreakable, a Mental Wealth podcast.

1084
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 2: Give me your unbreakable moment in life. Something that should

1085
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 2: have broken, you could have but didn't, and as a result,

1086
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: you came through the other side of that tunnel stronger forever,

1087
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: could be in anything, could be career, life, ship it.

1088
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what I would say, you know.

1089
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 5: The most the most relatable, uh you know, sort of colorful.

1090
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: Story that I could give you is the first movie

1091
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 4: that I was doing.

1092
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Speaker 5: This movie that Oliver Stone produced called zebra Heads, small

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00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 5: little independent movie won an award at Sunday. It's the

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Speaker 5: same year that Read of Our Dogs, you know, won

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00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 5: an award at Sundance. I know nothing about nothing about nothing.

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00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 5: I got cast in it, and I was the star

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00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 5: of this movie. I didn't know anything about being on

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00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 5: a set, you talk probably like, you know, the camera

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00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 5: was over here. I'm I didn't know what the.

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Speaker 4: Fuck was doing, but I knew I was doing good.

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00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 5: And I knew between action and take I was able

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00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 5: to do I was doing good. And halfway through the

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00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 5: movie the producer tried to get me fired. No, yeah,

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00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 5: and and and I remember hearing it, and I remember

1105
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 5: literally being in my hotel in Detroit, like just like,

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00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 5: just stay focused, don't worry about that. But I remember

1107
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 5: literally going like this, I put like, just don't don't

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00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 5: fucking listen to it. Don't believe like I know, I'm

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00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 5: doing good, like and like and and and and and

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Speaker 5: I was able to, you know, to continue that movie.

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Speaker 5: And you know, like I said, you know, we won

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Speaker 5: an award at the Sundance Film Festival, and you know,

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00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 5: and I was able. That was the beginning of what

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00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: I was able to do. But I know that if

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00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 5: I had been rattled by it or freaked out by it,

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00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 5: or didn't have that belief in myself and didn't have

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00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 5: that trust, even though I didn't know what I was doing,

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00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 5: I knew what I was doing was real. Like I

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00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 5: knew like my, like my what I what I didn't

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00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 5: know was that one hundred percent of what I was

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00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 5: doing was authentic one hundred percent, and and that would

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00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 5: have really fucked me up. And then the other thing

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Speaker 5: I would say, Jay, is right now, you know, because

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00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: you know, as as as a Jewish Man with all

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00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 5: the anti Semitism and all the anti Jewishness, with all

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00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 5: the chaos in the world and the you know, don't

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00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 5: say this, don't say that, and you're gonna get canceled

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00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 5: and all that stuff, to be able to really intrinsically

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00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 5: not only just trust what I know, but also to

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00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 5: educate myself even more, to be able to stand on

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00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 5: what I know is right, yeah, authentic because because because

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00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 5: I'm I'm going through something right now, and I think

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00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 5: a lot a lot of people are going through something

1134
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 5: right now, and I don't know where it's going to end.

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00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: But you know, I talk about my wife a lot.

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00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 5: You know, and you know, you're like, is it worth

1137
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 5: it to say what you're saying?

1138
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 4: Is it not worth it to say what you're saying?

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00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 5: I have to stand by, stand up for myself, and

1140
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 5: stand up for my people because you know, not to

1141
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 5: get too political, I've spoken on everybody's behalf everybody's fucking behalf.

1142
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 4: When there's you know this, that and the.

1143
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 5: Third, I've spoken up, So I'm certainly gonna speak up

1144
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 5: the loudest, uh you know, from my people, especially when

1145
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 5: there's been so much doubt, uh you know, put out there.

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00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 4: At about uh you know, being Jewish. So those those

1147
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: are the two things, brother.

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00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I got to go on your podcast.

1149
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 2: Let's you pep me with every then I'll open up

1150
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: to you more than if people don't really talk to

1151
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: me a lot anymore about how it wasn't and all

1152
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: that type of things.

1153
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: So I would love to, man, I'd love to do

1154
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 3: you on yours.

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00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

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00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 5: I appreciate yet that, Jay, And I love all your shit,

1157
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 5: and you know, I know the world loves your stuff,

1158
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 5: but I love your evolution and.

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00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 4: You shouldn't be You should continue with your revolution. It's important. Man.

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00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 5: If you were the same lunatic you were twenty years ago,

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00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 5: how could you still be here?

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Speaker 3: My man? Man, you dude, I appreciate it so much.

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Speaker 2: Michael Rockin Gurt, thank you for joining us here on

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Speaker 2: the Unbreakable Mental Wealth podcast.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Jay,