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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Monday ediative Texans All Access from nondaye

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Speaker 2: Texans Radio Studio, John Harris, your host, and thoughts out

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Speaker 2: to everybody that is still that are still struggling with

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Speaker 2: the power issue, whether I know over my neighborhood, it

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Speaker 2: is still very very very dicey for a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: So thoughts and hearts go to all of you out there.

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Speaker 2: It has been a wild ninety six hours and we're

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Speaker 2: going to still be your rest bite from all that,

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Speaker 2: hopefully and just talks and football with Ota starting this week.

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Speaker 2: We'll be out there tomorrow bringing in the heavy hitters

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Speaker 2: of course, a voice of Texas Mark vandermir Mark.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing, Johnny? I'm doing great. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: forward to seeing the guys in action. We're going to

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Speaker 3: get a couple of shots at that this week and

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Speaker 3: we'll be reflecting here on Texans All Access. Also coming

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Speaker 3: up either tomorrow or on a future show this week,

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Speaker 3: Quarterback Case Keenum will join us. Looking forward to that

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Speaker 3: and a bunch of other stuff going on. It never stops.

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Speaker 1: You know it.

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Speaker 2: I know it, we all know it. Yeah, absolutely, and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get to that in just a second. I

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Speaker 2: know there may be some media members that that might

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Speaker 2: be listening to Wait a second. Wait, he says, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna see him twice. Yes, the business ops

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Speaker 2: here for the Texans gets an opportunity to see him

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Speaker 2: on Thursday, so we are part of that. So we'll

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Speaker 2: get to see them on Thursday and on Tuesday. So

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Speaker 2: don't think you like missed the day from your schedule,

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Speaker 2: your media availability omarsin.

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Speaker 1: Now You're okay? Are you?

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Speaker 3: You're really that concerned about their feelings right now?

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Speaker 1: Not that I'm never concerned about that.

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Speaker 2: I am. I just don't want them going, Hey, why

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Speaker 2: do you see what? I just wanted to be clear

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, we've gotten to see them before the most media anyway,

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Speaker 3: So I.

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Speaker 1: Just want people to be I just want people to

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Speaker 1: be clear about that. That's all.

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Speaker 2: I'm just. I'm looking for clarity for all.

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Speaker 3: All my friends in the media. I do, I do.

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Speaker 3: I'm not being sarcastic here. You know that big proponent,

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Speaker 3: but a media fan. In fact, I mentioned this previously.

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Speaker 3: You know I was a media fan for a long time,

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Speaker 3: which is another way of saying I used to like

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Speaker 3: to watch television a lot when I was a kid.

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Speaker 3: All right, media fan and listen to the radio.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: You know what I used to do though, I used

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Speaker 3: to record sitcoms on a tape recorder.

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Speaker 2: This is that. That's how long ago.

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Speaker 1: This was. Wow.

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Speaker 3: I'd record sitcoms like All in the Family, the Jeffersons,

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Speaker 3: and I would listen to them at night when I

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Speaker 3: was falling asleep, I would listen to the audio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed doing that as a kid, so I

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Speaker 3: thought it was cool. I'd just I'd put the microphone

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Speaker 3: and I'd listen to it later. And I got to

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Speaker 3: know certain episodes really well because family recorded maybe you know,

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Speaker 3: five a season or something. But I was into that

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Speaker 3: in this business of audio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean that's what I do.

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Speaker 2: When I get in a car, you know, and I'm

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Speaker 2: taking a trip or a longer trip. There are times

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Speaker 2: where I would just put a documentary on and I'll

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Speaker 2: need to see, Yeah, who's talking or.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I kind of know what scene it is,

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Speaker 2: so I kind of see it in my mind, but

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Speaker 2: I'm just listening to it.

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Speaker 1: So there's something that you can't do that with.

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Speaker 2: But there are a lot of them that that I

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Speaker 2: can absolutely. There are a lot of times I'll listen

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Speaker 1: I'll listen to it.

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Speaker 2: Can't see it, but I'll listen to it, get to

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Speaker 3: But please support the radio broadcast and find it online.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if it's like an ESPN, if it's

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Speaker 3: Oh I can find it on NHL radio. I don't

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Speaker 3: where to go, Well, yeah, I know where to go.

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Speaker 3: I know how to figure that part of it out.

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Speaker 2: But there are a lot of times you can't get

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Speaker 2: like after a game, for example, here's a great example, Okay,

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Speaker 2: after a game, a Texans game.

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Speaker 1: After a Texans.

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Speaker 2: Game, when Sean and Clint are in a commercial break

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Speaker 2: and I don't want the music to stop. If you will,

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Speaker 2: I will put on Scott Hansen in red zone. I'll

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Speaker 2: let that roll for a while.

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Speaker 3: See, I'll just put on NFL Radio and listen to

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Speaker 3: them do the blitz, and they do the same thing

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Speaker 3: in audio form.

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Speaker 1: Do an audio form. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: It's probably easier to listen to Phild Tennessee. It's probably

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Speaker 2: better to listen to that. That's a good idea. Except

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Speaker 2: I don't know NFL Rady anymore. But we do have

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Speaker 2: an NFL team that is going to go onto the

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Speaker 2: field tomorrow OTAs, and so we thought to kick it off,

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Speaker 2: let's think about some of the things that we're excited

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Speaker 2: little preview of OTAs. And again, a couple of things

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Speaker 2: we have to say. Number one, it's voluntary, So you're

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Speaker 2: gonna see a flood of tweets if you follow a

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Speaker 2: bunch of media members tomorrow, such and such is not here.

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Speaker 2: I can write the tweet for you such and such

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Speaker 2: it's voluntary.

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Speaker 3: So you're gonna see a lot of tweets in about

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Speaker 3: ten minutes from now. Because Lemont heard you say something

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Speaker 3: Johnny Harris is basically telling us that Stefan Diggs is

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Whoha, whoa what I'm saying? Said that?

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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Why do you automatically go Digs?

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Speaker 3: I could be anybody, my gosh, And sometimes a lot

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Speaker 2: Even say anything on the radio. When when things like

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Speaker 2: that get misconstrued. Now, the thing, I've seen those tweets.

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Speaker 2: I've seen those tweets for years, and they're coming tomorrow. Oh,

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Speaker 2: they're definitely coming tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: And after practice, Dimiko Ryans will address the medium and

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Speaker 3: he'll probably give you a little information on people who

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Speaker 1: We're just focused on the guys who are here.

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Speaker 3: That That was a standard Bill O'Brien response to those

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Speaker 3: you get ninety five percent.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you're gonna have like half the

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Speaker 3: Guys are missing for good reasons. Johnny, they got a

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Speaker 3: family thing. Yeah, you know, since it is voluntary. Hey,

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Speaker 3: my wife is giving birth or just did or whatever

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Speaker 2: Man, I've seen the response to that so often it is,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, he's not there.

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Speaker 1: Oh we just paid them all kinds of money and

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Speaker 2: Like I've seen so many things like that, and it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's more the it's more the response

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Speaker 2: to it of look, they're gonna there's there's gonna there's

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Speaker 2: gonna be some people missing tomorrow at o Ta's. There's

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Speaker 2: gonna be some people that might be out there that

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Speaker 3: I just had a flashback, by the way, you did

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Speaker 3: flashback to three years ago?

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Speaker 1: All right, so ot As? Remember ot As three years ago?

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Speaker 2: And who was not here?

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Speaker 1: All right? In ot As?

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Speaker 3: And then it was media camp watch because.

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Speaker 1: It was all about four.

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Speaker 3: It was four gonna show up at mini camp, right

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Speaker 3: and it was beautiful. Actually, David Kelly crazy like a fox.

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Speaker 3: David Kelly cancels Mini camp. We got our work done here,

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Speaker 3: so hands clean, No, man, I don't even want to

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Speaker 3: get back into that four. And then we waited until

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Speaker 3: training camp, which was bizarre, the most bizarre Texans training

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Speaker 1: Of them Scout team safety too. They'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: That they have him hitting the sled.

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Speaker 1: No, they didn't. It was just.

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Speaker 3: That that's all right, you want to you want to

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Speaker 3: get into it. That stuff drives me nuts by certain

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Speaker 3: media members when they would say that he's playing Scout

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Speaker 3: is definitely and it's is it technically correct?

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Speaker 2: He's playing US safety.

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Speaker 3: In a situation where it's only quarterbacks and what was it,

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Speaker 3: running backs And they do this all the time. They

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Speaker 3: do this all the time for each other. I mean

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Speaker 3: CJ might have done it right. It's that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: It's not like he's out there doing reps with the

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Speaker 2: That you're getting, you're getting. That's I'm getting to the point.

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Speaker 2: And the point is like those those it gets tweeted

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Speaker 2: and put out there, and then people that aren't there

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Speaker 2: and then they read into it a million different things

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Speaker 2: because there's only so many things you can put in

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Speaker 2: a tweet. But I'm just making sure that when people

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Speaker 1: Relax, Yeah, relax, you know what are lax?

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers said that they ended up going to the

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Speaker 2: playoffs after they were four and six and twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Master stroke by you bringing up the media first, because

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Speaker 3: not everybody, but you're gonna get tweets yesterday. You're right,

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Speaker 3: they will elicit a response. There's going to be you

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Speaker 3: want to talk about overreacting to preseason games or maybe

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Speaker 3: game one winner loss situations. There's an overreaction of whatever

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Speaker 3: you see at OTA's. Oh my gosh, CJ overthrow a guy.

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Speaker 3: You know you're gonna see something like that. I don't

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Speaker 3: think you will, but you're gonna see something of that nature.

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Speaker 3: Somebody makes an error that people see and they tweet

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Speaker 3: it out later or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Oh so and so it looks so good.

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Speaker 1: I think we got up.

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding? Are you kidding? It's OTA's. They were

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Speaker 3: out there today, by the way, doing some stuff. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: OTA start this week and we're gonna see it tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: And you're right, you're gonna see some stuff. Don't overreact,

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Speaker 3: don't I guess underreact either. No, just just take it

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Speaker 3: as it comes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's cool that we have we have fans

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Speaker 2: that they're very excited about what's going on. But then

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Speaker 2: they see that tweet and they that's the that's it.

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Speaker 2: They read the tweet as it is and like wait what,

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Speaker 2: and then there's panic sets in, like don't panic, don't

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Speaker 3: This shit I don't even I don't remember if it

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Speaker 3: Talking about the over reacting to things? Because you just

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Speaker 3: So whoever you see anywhere, things can and will change.

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Speaker 2: But look, it all worked out, did it not? Did

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so, starters, you don't have to go through

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Speaker 2: You know, assigning that you know, people forget mean, that

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Speaker 1: But did he go autry?

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Speaker 2: That there may be it may be season transitions, you know,

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Speaker 1: Okay, look your corner.

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Speaker 2: We want you to learn playing corner, but we want

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe you find out Blake Fisher's a pretty.

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Speaker 2: Darn good guard. I'm not saying that that happens, but

441
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Speaker 2: maybe somehow through some experimentation, maybe you find out, oh wow,

442
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,920
Speaker 2: he really can play that position that really does work

443
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Speaker 2: for us. And you've seen it in football since the

444
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Speaker 2: end of time, you didn't even know a guy could

445
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Speaker 2: play a particular position. But you get desperate, or you know,

446
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,440
Speaker 2: you just get experimental, like, hey, why not Damian Pierce

447
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 2: last year kickoff returns? What happens You're throwing back there?

448
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 2: He runs one back against the Browns, kept us in

449
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,159
Speaker 2: that game until we basically it all fell apart. But

450
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Speaker 2: point being, you're gonna have some time and opportunity to

451
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Speaker 2: do that with some of these young guys because you

452
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Speaker 2: have a veteran roster, and I think that's really gonna

453
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Speaker 2: help you.

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Speaker 3: All right, let me ask you if I'm gonna be

455
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Speaker 3: able to tell anything about what Damian Pierce in twenty

456
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Speaker 3: twenty four is gonna look like based on OTA.

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Speaker 2: Stuff, and I'm gonna add to that.

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Speaker 3: What will I get from Jawar Jordan? What does Jawar

459
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Speaker 3: Jordan need to do in OTAs to get me excited

460
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Speaker 3: about Jaward Jordan?

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Speaker 2: Jaar Jordan has to catch every single pass throwing his way.

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Speaker 3: That'll get me excited. I think that's where you're really

463
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Speaker 3: gonna see what he can do with in this environment

464
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Speaker 3: without actual content.

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Speaker 2: What do we say about guys, especially positions like safety, linebacker,

466
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Speaker 2: maybe tight end. Sometimes you got to make your market

467
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 2: special teams, right, Yeah, you gotta make your market special teams.

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Speaker 1: Well, for good like Jordan, it's a.

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Speaker 2: Little tougher because he's probably not gonna be the prime

470
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Speaker 2: re turner. I wouldn't think now it could be the

471
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 2: kick returner. So you could get some opportunities there, so

472
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Speaker 2: you could have that, but you're not gonna be able

473
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Speaker 2: to be a guy like say, take Jake Hansen for instance.

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Speaker 2: Jake Hansen could be a core four special team or

475
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Speaker 2: playing all four special teams, and all of a sudden

476
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Speaker 2: he's done doing pretty well of those reps memories of rookie,

477
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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he steps into the lineup

478
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Speaker 2: when he's got to play because you've been impressive on

479
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 2: special teams, Now you can step in and do those things.

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Speaker 2: A running back isn't always going to have that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: So what else can that guy do? Well, he's got

482
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Speaker 2: a Remember Mike Boone last year, Mike Boone ended up

483
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Speaker 2: being a third down running back for a while because

484
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Speaker 2: A he caught the ball in the backfield pretty well.

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Speaker 1: He's prety shifted. Yet when he got the ball in.

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Speaker 2: The backfield, we liked him and B he knew his

487
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Speaker 2: past protection rules and picked everybody up. He made a

488
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Speaker 2: couple of really nice blocks on pass protection in the

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Speaker 2: in the training camp. During training camp, he showed how

490
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Speaker 2: to do it, did it well, and that got him

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Speaker 2: on the field in third down situations. So Juar Jordan's

492
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Speaker 2: special teams situations are gonna be catch the ball in

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Speaker 2: the backfield on third down and pass protect like you

494
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Speaker 2: know what. And that could be tough for a rookie

495
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Speaker 2: because you're gonna see some blitzeres maybe you haven't seen.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see blitzeres.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you have seen, but now they're blocked differently because

498
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Speaker 2: you're in the NFL. You do different things, and so

499
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Speaker 2: you've got to be able to pick that up really

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Speaker 2: really quickly. But it's the same sort of thing. Younger

501
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: guys are gonna get on a field when they do

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Speaker 2: those specialized situations better. And some of the veterans that

503
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Speaker 2: are out there, they're taking advantages. Opportunities for Jars are

504
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Speaker 2: running back third down past catching third down past protection.

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00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 2: For other guys, it's going to be flying down on

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Speaker 2: special teams.

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Speaker 3: All right, this is our eleventh off season together. Johnny

508
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Speaker 3: Something's gonna happen in this OTAs and in training camp

509
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Speaker 3: regarding me that has never happened before. What will happen?

510
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Speaker 3: What feeling will I have? What will I want to

511
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Speaker 3: see that I've never had any interest in before?

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, you know it, you are now a special

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Speaker 2: teams guy.

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Speaker 3: Now, well only one element kickoffs?

515
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Speaker 2: Kick off.

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Speaker 3: I don't care about the punts, although part returner I

517
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 3: will be curious. That's that's the only time special teams

518
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Speaker 3: sort of plays into it for me.

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Speaker 1: I want to see you.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna see the kick and put returns on. But

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Speaker 3: tomorrow we're gonna see the kickoff and I'm I'm gonna

522
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Speaker 3: be watching. This is very different for me, you know me,

523
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Speaker 3: OTA Special Teams. Never mind training camp. Oh TA special Teams.

524
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Speaker 3: I'm on my phone, I'm going to the restroom, I

525
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: am talking to people. I am not paying attention. It's

526
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 3: OTA Special Teams. But tomorrow I will be looking at

527
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: the kickoff, how they line up, who's return of the ball,

528
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Speaker 3: what are the blocking concests looking like? In fact, I

529
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Speaker 3: would bet every NFL team would love to have a

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Speaker 3: spy in every other NFL team's OTAs just to see

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Speaker 3: what they're doing in practice at kickoff kickoff routines and

532
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Speaker 3: also for the Hall of Fame game. We've talked about this.

533
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Speaker 3: This is gonna be must c TV for every NFL team.

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Speaker 3: They're all gonna be done.

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Speaker 2: Thirty two teams are gonna attack it thirty two different ways.

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Speaker 1: I think I think you're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna I think you're gonna see some that put offensive

538
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Speaker 2: linemen on the front and actually block it like an

539
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: offensive run play. I think they're gonna be some that

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Speaker 2: have the same or similar personnel to what they've had

541
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: in the past, but they're just gonna block it differently.

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00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: They're gonna be different ways that You're gonna have maybe

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Speaker 2: one run scheme as I put up in air quotes

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Speaker 2: my hands in air quotes on once, and maybe a

545
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Speaker 2: different run scheme on the other.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be wild.

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Speaker 2: But the first introduction to it live in person is

548
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: going to be OTA's tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: You're right, that's a period.

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Speaker 2: Now they've gone long in the OTAs and non padded practices,

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00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: they go long special teams. I would imagine they're gonna

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Speaker 2: spend a significant amount of time with the kickoffs working

553
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: on that during OTAs. Absolutely, and I know sometimes You're

554
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Speaker 2: not gonna have the mix of the players absolutely down perfectly,

555
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Speaker 2: because you're gonna have a lot of guys that are

556
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: compete for spots, and so you put them on kickoff

557
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: team or kickoff return or whatever case might be in preseason.

558
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: So you may not get honed in completely, but you

559
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: gotta work on it because it's brand new, brand new,

560
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: and how you deal with that is gonna be interesting.

561
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Speaker 2: So I think they're gonna spend some time on it.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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Speaker 3: I'll be guilty of reading way too much into who

564
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Speaker 3: the returners are on the kickoffs. I'm thinking you need

565
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Speaker 3: somebody with some girth, right, you can't have You're not

566
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: gonna have Tank Dell returning kickoffs anyway, and it's certainly

567
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: not in this alignment right with these blockers with such

568
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Speaker 3: close contact to whatever happens with these players five yards apart.

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Speaker 3: I can't actually can't wait to watch this. How about that?

570
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: I might be more excited for special teams that OTAs

571
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Speaker 3: than anything the world has turned it.

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Speaker 1: Now, I got other I got other things to look

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Speaker 1: out for too.

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Speaker 2: If you want to get to those eventuals, Okay, we

575
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Speaker 2: will definitely get to those. We get back. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: go either or of you and me. I'm gonna present

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Speaker 2: a few cases to you and see what you take next.

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Speaker 2: All right, Mark, Tom, either or let's go. It's a

585
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: pretty simple thing that we do. I've been doing this

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00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: for a long time. It started with Sean Pendergas many

587
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: many eons ago. We were just in a segment and

588
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Speaker 2: I was like, Shawn, either or and I would give

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00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: him a scenario and he had to choose, and we

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00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: just expanded, expanded. You and I have done this before.

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00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: It's pretty simple. So here we go. This first one

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00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: has to do with the schedule. Would you would you

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Speaker 2: take either which one? Sweep the division, but go oh

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00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: and three against your crossover teams Dallas, Baltimore, Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: or go at least two and one against the crossover teams,

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Speaker 2: but go five hundred in the division.

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00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: Sweep the division, So sweep.

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00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: The division, oh and three against your crossover teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: or go two and one against crossover teams, but no

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Speaker 2: better than five hundred division.

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Speaker 3: I've got what do I have? If I sweep the

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Speaker 3: division six six.

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00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: That's six and zero. But you go ow and three

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Speaker 2: against the crossover teams.

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Speaker 3: That's fine. The crossover teams are the toughest teams on

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Speaker 3: the schedule, maybe right, But.

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00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 2: If you're going on with three much crossover teams you

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Speaker 2: mean Dallas, Dallas, Baltimore, Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine. Look, it's not fine. I'd rather beat

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Speaker 3: one or two of those guys, preferably all of them.

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Speaker 3: But if you guarantee me six and zero in the division,

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Speaker 3: I'll take my chances on everybody else. I still have

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Speaker 3: Miami on top, I mean, I still have New England

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Speaker 3: on top of that. That's the poorest team on the

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Speaker 3: schedule based on last year's three rookies.

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Speaker 1: You know, we always know that.

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Speaker 3: You know, you get Caleb Williams here at home with

618
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 3: everybody sky high, you go up to Minnesota with JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: I got a chance to get three four more wins

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Speaker 3: on top of that six and oh plus, if I

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Speaker 3: go six and oh against the division, I'm a pretty

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Speaker 3: good team. I lose those three to Dallas, Kansas City

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Speaker 3: and Baltimore, I might still be a pretty good team

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Speaker 3: that I happen to lose those three and guess what,

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Speaker 3: they're all going to be fat and happy like Baltimore

626
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Speaker 3: and Kansas City if they see me in the playoffs,

627
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Speaker 3: and I'll take.

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Speaker 2: It to them.

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Speaker 3: Then Cleveland, everybody, right, Yeah, that's what happened. They blew

630
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Speaker 3: us out here, you know, took advantage of the situation, and.

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Speaker 1: That's the area.

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Speaker 3: And then in the postseason, whoop, flip the script.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I do want to sweep the division, no doubt.

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00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: I just do not want to go three against the

635
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: crossover teams because you.

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Speaker 1: Would, you know, what's sweep all day long?

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00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: No, I know I want, but I don't want to

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00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: go on with three against the crossover teams. Because you

639
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: go against three oh and three against Dallas, Baltimore, Kansas City,

640
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 2: what's gonna be said about you? You're not You're gonna

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Speaker 2: be playing in the Houston Texas Invitational on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: They're not even gonna wig or one and done, like

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Speaker 1: I don't want it. I don't want to sit here.

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Speaker 3: I say whatever they want. It's all gonna be about

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Speaker 3: how you do when you get there. They're gonna say

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Speaker 3: what they want.

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Speaker 2: Anyway. That's true.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: Sometimes they say, oh, you're gonna be awesome, and then

650
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Speaker 3: you fall flat on your face.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: Anybody, Hey, I bring it up, twenty twelve. Sorry, okay,

653
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Speaker 2: So I'm my way home. I can't remember which day

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Speaker 2: it was. It may have been actually the day of

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Speaker 2: the storm. I think it may have been the day

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Speaker 2: of the storm. Anyways, I was listening to Interloop A

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Speaker 2: love listen to Landry's Landry Locker if you haven't heard it.

658
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: He does the.

659
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: He plays the whole schedule out and then he recaps.

660
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: I can't remember what he calls it. It's brilliant and

661
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: I listened to it and it's it's funny. He's got

662
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 2: but one thing stood out to me.

663
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: He was reading it.

664
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: He's like he had tea in Quatoriano catching a number

665
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: of touchdowns. So it got me thinking about this. Either

666
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: or okay, which one you want? Either Damian Pierce four

667
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns or more or Tiaguan Quatoriano four touchdown receptions

668
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: or more in twenty twenty four.

669
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I picked Teagan, I've got the unknown.

670
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: With Damien he could have ten touchdow.

671
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: That's right, you have the unknown of the Either I'll

672
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: take the tag in four because I think if Tigan

673
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: gets four, that means everything else is going really well.

674
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: Either that or it's been a total freaking disaster and

675
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: he happens to be the only tight end upright is

676
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: possibly available to catch a touchdown pass. So maybe there's

677
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: no way you could correlate anything out of that. But

678
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: I think I'd take the tag in one because I

679
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: have high hopes for Pierce in twenty twenty five. Here,

680
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: I think Damien can get back to it. Back to

681
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: it meaning twenty twenty two production or some version of

682
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: that that's appropriate for this team with Joe Mixon getting

683
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: the bulk of the carries.

684
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I just kept he kept saying teaking with

685
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: Doriano touchdown Texans win. I can't remember what the record

686
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: he had, and that got me thinking about man if

687
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: Teagan has touchdowns now, he ended up having I think

688
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: was it three in his rookie year. He didn't play

689
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: a full year but I think he had three.

690
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: He had two of them down on a goal on

691
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: I think another one.

692
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: And then it was that game against the Cults at

693
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: the very end of the year where he had to

694
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: think three catches for like fifty something yards and you

695
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 2: felt like, okay, yeah, there might be something here.

696
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: And then just hasn't been able to stay healthy.

697
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: Injuries, yeah, injuries have Just if Tegan can get away

698
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: from the injuries, I still I think there's a player there, Okay, CJ.

699
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: Stroud, I think you've heard of him.

700
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: I have. By the way, if you have him the

701
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: video of him just tossing the ball in the yard,

702
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: it's so cool, so so very cool. Okay, you get

703
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: to pick which one either forty five hundred passing yards. Now,

704
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: think about all the things that forty five hundred passing yards.

705
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: Lead could be anything. Yeah.

706
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: I could have seen a league leader at four and twelve,

707
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: all right, yeah, twenty twenty, Yep, it happened.

708
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: Okay.

709
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: I've also seen another league leader here at nine and seven. Yeah,

710
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: in two thousand and nine.

711
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: Yep.

712
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: So you could have a lot of different versions of

713
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: what forty five hundred yards could be.

714
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: Anyway, So forty five hundred passing yards or thirty one touchdowns.

715
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: I gotta pick one of them.

716
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: You got to pick one of them, either forty five

717
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: hundred passing yards or thirty one touchdowns. Now, he could

718
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: CJ could throw for forty five hundred yards and two touchdowns,

719
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: or he could throw four one hundred yards and thirty

720
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: one touchdowns.

721
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: Either way, but you gotta have one.

722
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: Now. Obviously, you can make assumptions about what throwing for

723
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: forty five hundred yards does or what throwing for thirty

724
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: one touchdowns does.

725
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: You can do the math.

726
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: I'm ready either forty five hundred passing yards or thirty

727
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: one touchdowns, So.

728
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: Both those numbers would be among the very best in

729
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: the history of the franchise's.

730
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: Wild So I settled on them.

731
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: But right up there, I'll take the forty five hundred yards.

732
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: I feel good about forty five hundred yards, meaning he's

733
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: healthy the whole way through, or at least maybe missed

734
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: a game, but he's healthy the whole way through. Thirty

735
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: one touchdowns. Could be Hey Watson at nineteen and six games,

736
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: and we thought he was a lock to get to

737
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: thirty five forty right at that point if he stayed

738
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: healthy I'll take the yards and I'll feel.

739
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: Good about it.

740
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think they have enough talent this team.

741
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: You know, I keep hearing record predictions. Sean this morning

742
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: was saying, I feel like they'll be six and two

743
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: after eight or something of that nature, and I thought, Wow,

744
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: that's how we're talking right now. A year later, we're

745
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: talking about six and two after eight games. I don't

746
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: care who you're playing. That is really good stuff. I

747
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: know the back half of the schedules tougher on paper,

748
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 3: but man, would that be nice.

749
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: I'll take my forty five hundred yards. Okay, two rookies

750
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: we talked about, well one of the one of them

751
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: came up in a conversation.

752
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: The other one in the secondary is Kaylen Bullock.

753
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: So for the majority of games this year, will I

754
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: will either Kaylen Bullock and Lasser start, both start, or

755
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: neither start majority of games? Majority of games, let's just say,

756
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: for nine games, will Kaylen Bullock and Lasser both start

757
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: together or will neither one of them? Which one is

758
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: more likely to happen? Again?

759
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, neither neither, because they could still play a bunch.

760
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: They could still start somehow starting, they could start because

761
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: if they start six games a piece. That doesn't make

762
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: it right. So I still have room for that kind

763
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: of thing to happen. I've got a lot of talent here.

764
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of talent. I want to see

765
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: Petrie get back to the twenty twenty two form. I

766
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: think that he's gonna be just fine. I want to

767
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: see Jimmy state health. That's really important. But remember you

768
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: still have Eric Murray on this team. He could spot

769
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: start for you. Lonnie. I don't know what Lonnie's capable

770
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: of at this point in this defense, but clearly they

771
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: feel like he's got something to bring. So I'm eager

772
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: to see what he does in a reserve role or

773
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: whatever whatever's necessary. So I think Lasser, if he does

774
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: play a lot of nickel, Desmond King playing nickel in

775
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: front of him does not bother me one tiny little bit.

776
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: I love Dez King, So I'm okay with that neither

777
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 3: starts nine games or more, or when you had both

778
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: of them likely to start, or that scenario you laid out. Okay,

779
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: word salad it, Yeah, I.

780
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: Word soludid it.

781
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: Okay. In the month of October, Texans play Buffalo Bills

782
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: play at New England at Green Bay Indianapolis, and then

783
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: finish a Thursday night at the New York Jets.

784
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: Five games in the month of October.

785
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: Five games in the month of October, got you Bill's

786
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: at Patriots, at Packers, Colts at Jets. The month of

787
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 2: December at jack Miami at Kansas City home for the Ravens.

788
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: So you've got forks.

789
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: The bye week is mixed in there in December. You

790
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: can go undefeated for one of those months, either October

791
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 2: or December. To make it more difficult, in the other month,

792
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 2: you will go sub five hundred.

793
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: Oh well, no, I'm gonna pick undefeated in December because

794
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: sub five hundreds. Two and three in October could be

795
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: so at least I got two wins and you're giving

796
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: me four at the end of the year. That's six

797
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: right there. And I still have November and September really

798
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: well today and it's scaring me. And I've got Tennessee

799
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 3: at the end of the year. So I probably got

800
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: eight nine wins minimum out of this deal. Two and

801
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: three in the month of October. Read the October schedule again.

802
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 3: Home Bills, YEP at Patriots. Okay, so let's say you

803
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: go one in one right there. Continue at Packers one

804
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: and two.

805
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: This is a new home home Colts, all right, two

806
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: and two at Jets Thursday night, So two and three.

807
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: You could go two and three and be a really

808
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 3: good football team. You're playing really good teams on the road,

809
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: all right, in the Jets and what was the other one,

810
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: the Green Bay Bay. You're playing good News on the road,

811
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: and you're at New England. You finally got your win

812
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,959
Speaker 3: in New England, but you lost to Buffalo at home.

813
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: You lost to the Jets on the road, and you

814
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: lost to the Packers on the road. In that scenario, now,

815
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: I'd rather take the unknown. But if you're going to

816
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: say you're going to be sub five hundred in one

817
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: of these months, I don't want to be one in

818
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: four in December or one in three, rather in December

819
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: at that crucial time of year. I was leaning December anyway,

820
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 3: because I want to go hot, yeah, in that month

821
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 3: plus Tennessee at the end of the year. I'll take

822
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 3: my chances up there in Nashville. Okay, let's stick with

823
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 3: the schedule.

824
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: Okay, start one in three, finish three and one, or

825
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: start three and one finish one in three.

826
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Starting one in three, people will be abandoning,

827
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: not abandoning ship. They will be.

828
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: That's a tough one because the math.

829
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: The math doesn't work out great on now it's four

830
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: and four either way, but it's do you want to

831
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: start one and three? Reminder your games at the beginning

832
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: at Indy home Bear, Sunday night at Vikings Home, Jags,

833
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: the last fours if you Dolphins, Chiefs, Ravens, Titans. So

834
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: I wanted three to start, three and one to finish,

835
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: three and one to start one and three.

836
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: The answer is always three and one to finish because

837
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: I want to get hot at the end of the year.

838
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: One and three is going to be really painful if

839
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: that would happen, especially against those teams right now you

840
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 3: have Indian Jacksonville in that group. I think people are

841
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: under selling the potential for these teams, especially locally. I

842
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: think too many people locally think that we've left the

843
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: rest of the AFC South and the dust and they're

844
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: not even a concern anymore. You cannot assume wins at

845
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 3: Indy against Jacksonville.

846
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: You can't assume this stuff.

847
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of people.

848
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 2: Are you new here?

849
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, I know that Texans have a lot

850
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: of talent, Johnny, and they should could would be the

851
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 3: best team in the division. But they're coming for you.

852
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: Get ready. Buckle up, Buttercup.

853
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: This is not going to be an easy march.

854
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: No, it's not. Well, there's some question. It's it's not

855
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: did you did you? You want the end? You want

856
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: the three and.

857
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: One, the three and one at the end? Okay, Yes,

858
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: the trump the trouble was starting one and three. I

859
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: think you put it best.

860
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: And that is the negative that you play, yeah, you know,

861
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 3: and the negative reaction.

862
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because let's just say, let's say you lost the

863
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: games on the road to start with. You would lose

864
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: to Indianapolis to start, so you're not getting off their

865
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: great start. Then you lose at Minnesota to a rookie quarterback,

866
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: and then you would get beat at home by the Jaguars.

867
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: Now do all of that's assuming then that you beat

868
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: the Bears on a Sunday night. That's how you go

869
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: through the first four games before you get the Buffalo

870
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: Bills coming in here. Now, that's that's right.

871
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 3: But I don't want to finish one in three either,

872
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: because that breaks I know against those teams.

873
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: Now, the only way that one in three would make

874
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: me feel okay but not great.

875
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Is if you somehow went three and one to start and.

876
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 2: Then one on a big run and you're like eleven

877
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: and one, twelve and one, but now you really have

878
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: got twenty twelve back again. Mind, I've seen one in

879
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 2: three and I did not like it one little bit.

880
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: I know it indicated you weren't playing your best football

881
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 3: when you needed to be right. And that's that did

882
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 3: not work well for the Houston Texans. I mean, there

883
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 3: is a way that you could.

884
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: You could be eleven and one or so, beat the Dolphins,

885
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 2: or say lose to the Dolphins, beat the Chiefs. You've

886
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: now clinched the South. You've clinched your seating in the

887
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: last two games. Don't matter now that that could be,

888
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: that could so far ahead.

889
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: You've left everybody in the dust.

890
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: Now if Gary everybody.

891
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: I know Gary Kubiak listens to the show sometimes, if

892
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: he's listening right now, he's upset because he's like Vandermer,

893
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: we won a playoff game in twenty twelve, yes, coach.

894
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: In fact, I think that game against the Bengals was

895
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: one of the best coaching jobs he's ever done. After

896
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: the debacle in Indianapolis. You lose that game, you're flying

897
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 3: home in a hearse because you lost home field throughout.

898
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: But he got the team ready to go against a

899
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: hot Bengals team, got over the hump in that one,

900
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: and you were able to get a shot at New

901
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 3: England at their place.

902
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: Unfortunately you had to play it up there. You didn't win.

903
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 3: But I thought he got the team together to play

904
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: the Bengals because I was really worried about losing that

905
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: game after everything that had been happening. So I went

906
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: a credit for that, I'm sure, and a lot of

907
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: other things.

908
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: Man, there are games I think about that the Texans

909
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: ended up winning that. How do things like, for example,

910
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: let's say that in twenty twelve, let's say that they

911
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 2: don't win that game against the Bengals. Oh oh, people

912
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: are calling for his job. That's exactly what I'm saying,

913
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: because you know, what I also thought about was twenty nineteen,

914
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: what if we don't beat the Bills in the wildcard play?

915
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: People are calling for O'Brien's job for sure, because you

916
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: lost to the Colts at home the year before, you

917
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: lose another game at home, I think he's done. I

918
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 3: think cal might have done it right then, because Johnny,

919
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: you can't lose back to back at home when you're

920
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: you got to win those games. You know you got

921
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson, Yeah, healthy for a couple of years. No,

922
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 3: you can't do that.

923
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: Twenty twelve would have been tougher with Gary, but just

924
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: the way that it fell part the end I think

925
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: would have given would have given the McNair's a lot

926
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: to think about.

927
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 3: There was a lot to think about going into twenty

928
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 3: thirteen because the thought was how you're going to be better?

929
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: Are you really going to be better? And the Ed

930
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: Reid thing and none of.

931
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: The team you beat the year before, have you made

932
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: the progress you thought?

933
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: Was the progress just not really what you thought it

934
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: was what the record said it was.

935
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: Beating the Bengals in that playoff game was kind of

936
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: like beating the Bears at the end of the eight

937
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: season to prove that we didn't take a step back,

938
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 3: but we didn't take the step forward either, and we're

939
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: going to get another opportunity here. Obviously it didn't go

940
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 3: well the next year.

941
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: Two thousand and eight. I was thinking about two thousand

942
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: and eight, especially when we have a late by week,

943
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: how many games do we play in a row in

944
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen.

945
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: Fifteen in a row? Five?

946
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, they were piping hot down

947
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 3: the stretch. They had won five in a row going

948
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: into the Raider game. You know, four in a row

949
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: going into the Raider game and a chance to win

950
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: six and roll on the way. In fact, the Raider game.

951
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: Was that Marcus.

952
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: Yes, you thought you were gonna get that, and he

953
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: plays the best game he's ever played. And they had

954
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: all those speed guys, all those receivers, those guys that

955
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: couldn't catch the ball. Yeah, they could catch the ball

956
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: at all. And yet here they are in that game.

957
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: It's called Zach Wilson. Last year, it's like, oh, we're

958
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: getting Zach Wilson. Oh, not this apples. And the very

959
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: next year you need JaMarcus Russell to beat the Ravens,

960
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: to put you in the playoffs when you leave the

961
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 3: building with a win over New England, and of course

962
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: he can't.

963
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: Of course it's not. Of course it's not gonna happen,

964
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: not at all. Right, things did happen around the NFL.

965
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: I want to geto one of them. On the other side,

966
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: you think the Texans play a lot of games inside

967
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions. Oh it's it blew my mind when I

968
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: heard the actual number of games they play indoors versus

969
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: out and why that's making them a Super Bowl contender,

970
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 2: which again is inside, so maybe they're fit for that.

971
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: That's next the Texans All Access.

972
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,680
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973
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974
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981
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: the news, one not so good, one really really good.

982
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: Let's do the really really good and that's Tank Dell

983
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: videos this weekend servicing of Tank running and doing wide

984
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: receiver things as heavy moves. The explosion out of that.

985
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: I last last week sometime I finally got a chance

986
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: to see I was avoiding it, really really avoiding it

987
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 2: because when I first saw I saw part of one

988
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: video and I just my heart, My heart sank, My

989
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 2: heart sank.

990
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew Tank was okay, but I just

991
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: my heart sank.

992
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: I think about this all the time, like these young

993
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 2: guys are such they're such a boost for our city.

994
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: When they came in last year with Tank and Will

995
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: Henry obviously CJ, Jerry Patterson, that group last year. Man,

996
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: they'll go down with energy. They brought the city. Tank

997
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: in particular, I told him, I said, and fans in

998
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: this town they love you. Wherever he goes, they love it.

999
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: And so my heart sank. So I guess because I

1000
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: knew it. He'd been recovering and you know, things were

1001
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 2: going okay. That I got around to watching the video

1002
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: and again my heart just sank. But Tank has been

1003
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: doing his work, he's working as trainer.

1004
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: Now.

1005
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what that's gonna be for OTAs on Tuesday.

1006
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: I really don't. In all honesty, I don't really think

1007
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: we need to see Tank. We'd love to see him,

1008
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: but don't need to see him. Don't need to push it.

1009
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: Just make sure that he's healthy. I know what I

1010
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: saw in video look pretty, aren't good? Look like you

1011
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: could go out and do that. But one thing that

1012
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: I learned a long long time ago in this business,

1013
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: just because you see something in video form doesn't mean

1014
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: it can always lead to practice. I bring you Ed

1015
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: Reid twenty thirteen. I don't want to get into that

1016
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: I was right. Mike Meltzer knows I was right, But

1017
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: point being, it's just a it's a tricky wicket to

1018
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: get into. But it was great news to see Tank

1019
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: Dell moving around like the tank that we know now

1020
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: the other receiver. And this is the bad news for

1021
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: the chiefs. Rashi Rice, Now it's good news in some sense.

1022
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: She Rice is going to be available for OTAs and

1023
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: for Mini Camp. If you haven't been around, I haven't

1024
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: been paying attention. He got in trouble in a driving accident,

1025
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: left the scene, and then apparently he assaulted a photographer

1026
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: somebody of that ILK at a Dallas nightclub. Not one incident,

1027
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: but two incidents. But he's gonna be at OTA. So

1028
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 2: good news, I guess for the Chiefs that he's gonna

1029
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: be at OTAs.

1030
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: Bad news.

1031
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: The commission in the NFL is gonna have to get

1032
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: involved in this one because that's a couple of incidents

1033
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: after his rookie year. Nip this in the bud. We'll

1034
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 2: go from there. But we'll see. I mean, we don't.

1035
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 2: I thought at first we get the Chiefs. Early thought

1036
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: of rashet Rice not playing in that game, okay, be

1037
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 2: kind of nice. I mean you do have obviously, Zave,

1038
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: you're worthy and that's gonna help them. But not she Rice.

1039
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: Last year he created that synergy Patrick Mahomes. But late

1040
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: in the season. I think he'll be back if anything

1041
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: were to happen. But ra Shee Rice going to be

1042
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: back for the Kansas City Chiefs for OTAs at least.

1043
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: Jim Otto Football Hall of Fame Center. We're Double zero

1044
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: for the Raiders. He passed away. He is a legend

1045
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 2: in this game. He is a legend in the Raiders

1046
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 2: community where Double Zero has a center. That was always cool,

1047
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: that was even before my day. But one tough dude.

1048
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: Uh And he passed away eighty six, So he is

1049
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: a Raiders legend. Gone at eighty six. Rip jim Otto.

1050
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it for tonight's show. Appreciate

1051
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: everybody for listening. Oh my guys, back at sports Radio

1052
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: six ' ten tomorrow for joining me for a little

1053
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: either or and some Ota thoughts will be there tomorrow.

1054
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: We'll have them all for you right here on Texans

1055
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: All Access. See that, everybody, and as always, go Texans.