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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is known.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: are you. You are here that makes this the stuff

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Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. Strange days, indeed, you guys,

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Speaker 3: strange days. Indeed, as we are hurtling headfirst into April,

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Speaker 3: we we do have to tell you there may or

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Speaker 3: may not be in April Fool's Day episode of ridiculous history.

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Speaker 3: On the way, we want to be the first to

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Speaker 3: welcome you to Monday, March thirty.

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Speaker 4: First, How does April come in and come go out?

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Speaker 4: Is it in like a lion, out like a lamb?

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Speaker 5: Is that a thing? People say? I think I didn't

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Speaker 5: make that up. I'm not clever enough for that.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 5: If you made it up, YEH would have been cool,

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Speaker 5: But no, I cannot clame.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just referring to, like you know, end

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Speaker 4: of winter, versus beginning of spring, which where I think

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Speaker 4: the Atlanta weather has finally picked a color and it's

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Speaker 4: it's spring.

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Speaker 3: It does remind me of the fantastic line from T. S.

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Speaker 3: Eliot's The Wasteland where he says April is the cruelest month.

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Speaker 2: I would definitely argue that April is the cruelest month

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Speaker 2: because everybody goes around trying to trick you on the

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Speaker 2: first exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I always found it a mean spirited holiday in

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Speaker 3: the modern West. But do tune in. We're going to

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Speaker 3: get into the surprisingly murky origins of April Fool's Day.

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Speaker 3: The line we're talking about here from ts Eliot is

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Speaker 3: the following April is the cruelest month, breeding lilacs out

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Speaker 3: of the dead land, mixing memory and desire, stirring dull

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Speaker 3: roots with spring brain.

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Speaker 2: Somebody needs, I don't know, a little happy juice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit. It's a bit of a bummer.

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Speaker 4: And actually it's March that comes in like a lion

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Speaker 5: We know what we're in it right now. Currently, as

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Speaker 5: we sit and records the twenty sixth.

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Speaker 3: In media rests, we are going to explore some bird updates.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about passports and why you should

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Speaker 3: remember them, a little bit of UFO news. We have

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Speaker 3: so much to get to. Of course, we're going to

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Speaker 3: talk about twenty three and me we'll have a follow

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Speaker 3: up on our Slavery at Sea episode from the past. Everybody,

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Speaker 3: hold on to your ATM cards and be very careful

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Speaker 3: where you put them before we do any of that. Guys,

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Speaker 3: remember a while back on our group chat, I asked

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Speaker 3: whether we were all on signal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been talking about signal for a minute.

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Speaker 4: I used telegram, which is kind of similar and it's

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Speaker 4: and encryption. But people really have been screaming about signal

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Speaker 4: lately in terms of you know, privacy, and it seems

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Speaker 5: To like that out of school.

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Speaker 3: That's what we call a segue. We're going to be

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Speaker 3: right back after a word from our sponsors, and we

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Speaker 3: have returned. All right. Unless you are living off the

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Speaker 3: grid and somehow hearing podcasts but not the news, you

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Speaker 3: have probably heard of the recent hullabaloo regarding an editor

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Speaker 3: in chief of the Atlantic, a guy named Jeffrey Goldberg, who,

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Speaker 3: per his own reports, found himself accidentally in the wrong

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Speaker 3: digital room. Have you guys ever walked into a room

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then I just kind of hung out and

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just pretend like you are supposed to be there.

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Speaker 2: If you find yourself in that situation, act like.

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Speaker 3: You belong here. Yeah, that's that's one of the big

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Speaker 3: that's one of the big keys, right, one of the

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Speaker 3: jewels will drop here?

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Speaker 2: Can I answer really quickly? Just that thing? So one

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Speaker 2: I just said, hey, cool, thanks so much, this is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't really do take backsies outside of children's games.

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Speaker 3: That reminds me Matt Nolan, Tennessee and all of us home.

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Speaker 3: That reminds me of the time I interviewed Howard Dean

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Speaker 3: when he was still like an up and coming viable

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Speaker 3: I don't have the I don't have a high enough

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Speaker 5: But it was yeah, yes, it was a bit of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Billy could find the exact one, right, play that.

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Speaker 6: The one that's it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he sounds like a pokemon.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're going with, Okay, And when we talked

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Speaker 3: when when we talked behind the curtain, right when it's

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Speaker 3: other the truth in our super secure signal chat. And hey,

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Speaker 3: while we're there, why not why not collaborate on that

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Speaker 3: thing we always wanted to do, which is bomb a

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Speaker 5: Let's do it. You know what's taken so long. Let's

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Speaker 5: just you only live once, right.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's detail specific weapon caches.

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Speaker 4: By minute accounts of the entire operation and logistics there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, while that one guy is standing in

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Speaker 4: Right, the one where he's walking into the party, you're

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Speaker 4: talking about and everyone's like thinking, he's wondering what everyone's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's how I pickedure our buddy jeff

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Speaker 3: So uh we have not met. Uh, we have not

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Speaker 3: met the journalist Jeffrey Goldberg. He is the current editor

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Speaker 3: in chief of the Atlantic. And what Jeffrey found is

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Speaker 3: that government officials have been using signal to communicate in

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Speaker 3: the aftermath of the you know, the Chinese telecom breach

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Speaker 5: Disappearing messages not cool, not trained.

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Speaker 6: Can we also just.

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Speaker 4: Say that I'm stoked to be just back to a

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Speaker 4: Isn't that what this show is all about? And just

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Speaker 4: what this kind of thing is all about. Whoever is

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Speaker 4: thriving on. I just want to put that out there,

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Speaker 4: because this stuff is wild.

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Speaker 3: I think it's thoroughly American to constantly, constantly complain about

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Speaker 3: your government because of in theory, this is not one

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Speaker 3: of the governments that will black bag you for bats yeah,

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Speaker 3: I said, in theory, I said, in.

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Speaker 2: Theory, they'll just take away our security clearances once we're gone.

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Speaker 3: Out of office, like the like the current admin did

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Speaker 3: with specifically with members of the Biden family.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: So let's uh, let's go with this to give you

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Speaker 3: the straight poop or the hot cheese.

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Speaker 6: Here, straight poop and hot cheese.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's evocative. Is really a weird way, So cast

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Speaker 3: our memories back to March eleventh, five. There's a group

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Speaker 3: chat created on signal. It's created by a national security

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Speaker 3: advisor named Michael Waltz. This chat, it is like a

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Speaker 3: would be Vance and Ruby ospectively, and you there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: a guy named Pete who heads the Secretary of Defense

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Speaker 3: to the Middle East, and Jeffrey Goldberg. In this group chat.

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Speaker 3: Goldberg is just like that meme standing there in the

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Speaker 3: Hoothy PC Small Group PC, ostensibly meaning Principals Committee. They

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Speaker 3: go into depth. Some of us were talking. Some folks

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Speaker 3: is a true story. It is worrisome, and I really

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Speaker 3: appreciate that point about a politically holding anyone who is

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Speaker 7: To sell like the app store, just saying right, yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's fine if you are trying to avoid hackers in

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Speaker 3: It's fine if you're doing you know, small small time

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Speaker 3: they will, and if it's just it's an important point.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know about that, and that is sort

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Speaker 5: Thing was like, no, no, no, it's totally cool.

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Speaker 4: But I do just want to call back to mention

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Speaker 4: taking away Hillary clinton security clearances. What a to do

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Speaker 4: was made about her using emails and using private servers

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Speaker 4: and all that, and I just think this seems to me,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's pretty egregious, especially because we know that

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Speaker 3: easily compromise the encryption of signal. Now officially they can't,

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Speaker 3: but there's a world of difference between official and in practice, right.

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Speaker 2: And in this case, we're not even talking about any

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Speaker 2: kind of hacking that occurred. We're talking about user error, right.

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Speaker 3: We must be And this is sort of the Matroshka

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Speaker 3: doll aspect of this. And I'm really glad you brought

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Speaker 3: that up for the timeline here what do we say

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Speaker 3: was March eleventh. The group chat was created on March eighteenth.

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Speaker 3: The Pentagon warned everyone in their staff against using signal

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Speaker 3: before the White House Chat League went through. The Pentagon said, hey, guys,

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Speaker 3: I'm cool. You know, we're all cool, but let's be

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Speaker 3: a little bit safe. Let's have some opsec here less

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Speaker 3: a blunder occurs. In a blunder, definitely did so. Picture

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Speaker 3: ourselves as the editor in chief of the Atlantic and

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Speaker 3: I am not sure the President is aware how inconsistent

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Speaker 3: this is with his message on Europe. Right now, there's

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Speaker 3: a further risk that we see moderate to severe spike

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Speaker 2: Well, and and that person was named at five twenty

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Speaker 3: And someone else is like, Gene is a fucking legend.

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Speaker 4: Do we mention the emoji react from this chain? That's

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Speaker 3: It's simply the like, what is the endgame, quibono. Who benefits?

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Speaker 4: Well, any one thing that disturbs me too just about

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Speaker 4: this administration is the old, you know, kind of fascist

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Speaker 3: How did this happen? Is there a conspiracy afoot? Speaking

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Speaker 2: And we've returned, guys, exciting news in the world of

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Speaker 2: government contracts. Tail Oh, I've been learning about government contracts.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Trying to dip my toes into the game. It looks

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dip your dip your fingers, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: Uh so yeah, guys, Yeah, Boeing got a win. We

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Speaker 2: You're welcome. You've got the big contract. Boeing has won

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Speaker 2: Please go, heart and soul. It's the Air Force's next

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Speaker 2: But really, there's a massive Boeing facility in Saint Louis

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Speaker 2: right before now, Lockheed was the king of the stealth

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00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: fighter in the United States for the for the Air Force, right.

440
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Speaker 2: There are other versions of these planes for the Navy,

441
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: different types of planes, sometimes by the same manufacturer, just

442
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: different specifics, right for the other branches of the military.

443
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: But Lockheed was Lockheed Martin was standing on top of

444
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: that hill. But there have been a lot of problems

445
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: with the these next generation fighters that have been kind

446
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: of put out in the news. Just how many issues

447
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: there are, specifically with the systems, like the integrated computer

448
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: based systems issues happen there.

449
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: They're ballooning budget issues as well, I mean, as ever everybody.

450
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Speaker 2: Particular, Yes, right, there's corruption happening a little bit on

451
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: the side there, but like, we gotta we need some

452
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: more money for this project.

453
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Speaker 3: R and D cost can be a black hole because

454
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: they don't have you know, you can have clearly defined

455
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: objectives to arrive at, but you will also have agency

456
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 3: to figure out how you get to that objective. Yeah,

457
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: it's that there's riddle be this is there a recent

458
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: military project that has come in under budget.

459
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Speaker 5: Doesn't really seem to be the priority.

460
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Speaker 2: I want to say, has something to do with with

461
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: space force probably, no kidding, I do.

462
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 3: Have to we do have to point this out again

463
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: just being we're we're being curmudgeonly, but we're doing it

464
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: in in a political way. It doesn't matter what administration

465
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 3: is at the wheel. Uh. The real reason that the

466
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 3: military industrial complex rarely goes under budget in projects like

467
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 3: this is that on the military side, if you go

468
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: under budget, the being counters in your department are going

469
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: to come back to you and say, oh, I guess

470
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Speaker 3: you don't need so much money next year.

471
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 2: Well, and and as part of winning this contract, one

472
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Speaker 2: of the main things that's looked at by the government

473
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: is how cost effective are these planes, Like per unit

474
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Speaker 2: when we them to actually deploy them in places like Yeman. Well,

475
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: in this case, Boeing was on the lower end of

476
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: how much it's going to cost. But something to keep

477
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: in mind is, once you win one of these contracts

478
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: and your budget does go a little over, it's a

479
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: lot easier for the government to modify a contract than

480
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: it is to go through a whole other system of Well,

481
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Speaker 2: I guess we're gonna need to make a new contract

482
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: and get new people in here and test new you know,

483
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: prototypes and figure out all of that stuff. You just

484
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: it's way easier to follow that sunk cost and just

485
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: you know, eventually get those F thirty five's mostly working.

486
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: In cost fallacy.

487
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. But this is the thing that blew my mind.

488
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Speaker 3: Guys.

489
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Speaker 2: There's two things. Okay, I didn't know. There's an actual

490
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: US government Uncle Sam, and I think we may have

491
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: talked about it before, yea, like once or twice. There's

492
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: a real actual government SAM. It's called the System for

493
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: Award Management or SAM dot gov. This is the place

494
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: where all of these companies and individuals sometimes go to

495
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: create a basically a user account or an entity is

496
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: what they refer to it. On the website an entity

497
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: that can be eligible for certain contracts government contracts, big

498
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: ass contracts like this one. And if you go to that,

499
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: you can go to the website and check it out

500
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: and learn all about it. There's a great website GSA

501
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: dot gov, which is the General Services Administration, and it

502
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: will tell you how to do the process, how to

503
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Speaker 2: make it work.

504
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: It's just it.

505
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: It's weird to look at it on your computer screen

506
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: and think, oh wow. People from these major weapons manufacturers

507
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: do this exact thing and then sign up make an

508
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: entity as let's say Northrop Grumming or in this case Boeing,

509
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: and then.

510
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 3: They don't want you to know.

511
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, it's Americadwick. It could mean anything. But they

512
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: do all that and it just happens. That's weird. The

513
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: other thing is these next generation warplanes like the If

514
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: you imagine a prototyped vehicle that gets shown off by

515
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: Tesla as he says.

516
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 5: It, Tesla, No, he says Tesla, Tesla, Okay.

517
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 6: Well Tesla.

518
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: Well, let's say the next generation prototype of a Volkswagen

519
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: gets shown off at a car show. These prototypes for

520
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: these major weapons manufacturers have been flying since at least

521
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Yes, which makes you think about some of

522
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: the things human beings have seen in the air every

523
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: once in a while, or a little blip that goes by,

524
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: or weird sound. It could very well be one of

525
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: these prototypes that's being tested and has been tested for

526
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: the last four or five years.

527
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking something that has advanced stealth capabilities the

528
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: fifth generation vehicles simply don't possess, and significantly longer range.

529
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: It's still it's still classified, so we can't we can't

530
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: say too too much about it lest we get kicked

531
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: off the group chat. But we do we do know

532
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: to your point there, that there's a phenomenal and significant,

533
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: provable precedent of secret aviation innovations and breakthroughs and reports

534
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: of UAP or UFO. One of, indeed one of the

535
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: most plausible answers to mysterious objects in the sky is

536
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: going to be secret, very expensive testing of next gen

537
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: stealth aircraft.

538
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and thank goodness they're testing them. They didn't test them,

539
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: and they you know, won a nineteen billion dollar contract

540
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: that has you know, a couple sections in there. It

541
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: will likely cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

542
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's up to twenty already.

543
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, thank goodness they're testing them

544
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: rather than just saying, guys, look at this cool picture

545
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: of a fighter jet I designed.

546
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: How cool would I make test pilot? Would you guys

547
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: ever be test pilots for this kind of stuff?

548
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 5: Don't think?

549
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: Well?

550
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: No, interestingly enough, both. I think it was both astronauts,

551
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: or at least one of the astronauts that was recently,

552
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: you know, finally brought down from the International Space Station.

553
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: I think there were both test pilots for craft that

554
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully work the way they say they.

555
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: Do, mind reader, That's kind of why I'm asking, yeah,

556
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: because it just seems like such rarefied air. That's true

557
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: on two levels. But you know, when we when we

558
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: look at these programs, we know there's a lot of largess.

559
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: We know there's a lot of graft or a lot of

560
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: what people used to call port in earlier evenings. But

561
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: it is important to do this. Ye kind of have

562
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: to do this, especially now given that the US is,

563
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: and I hate to say it, the US is losing

564
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: the technological arm race against foreign powers. Particularly are our

565
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: friends over at Uncle Gee's side of the world.

566
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: Well, not with the f forty seven's with the when

567
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: they roll through, Oh, it's they're going to be beautiful.

568
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 5: It is inspired.

569
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 2: You won't even notice them all right, our our enemies

570
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: won't know what hit them. That's I think it'll be

571
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: a miss from the announcement. Yeah, but okay, guys, there's

572
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: there was a lot of stuff I wanted to cover

573
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: and we ended up talking about this a lot. A

574
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: couple of things you need to know. Do yourself a

575
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: favor and look up Just do a quick search for

576
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: Pirates Booty Long Island. You mean, like, just do that

577
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: the snack. Yes, just do yourself a favor. At some

578
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: point google that and just give yourself a little read.

579
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: Have some fun has to do with the founder of

580
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: Pirates Booty attempting to basically pull a full mutiny on

581
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: a town in Long Island, declaring himself mayor and all

582
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 2: kinds of con.

583
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 6: Pirate king I have.

584
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 5: I have a bunch of pirates Booty in me pantry.

585
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: And also also pirates are the reason are probably one

586
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: of the reasons the US does not currently have the

587
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: metric system.

588
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, I agree, And speaking of pirates, let's stay

589
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: on the high seas. Do yourself a favor and do

590
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: a little search for Bumblebee Tuna. Bumble Bee Tuna and

591
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: fishing boat slavery. Something we talked about on a previous episode.

592
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: I can't remember the name of it, something about canned

593
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 2: fish or it's the.

594
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: One where we I think I called it the one

595
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: where we ruined seafood.

596
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 6: I think that's it.

597
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: I think that's it.

598
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 4: Now that being said, there are some bespoke ten fish

599
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: companies that do a really fine Jeff, that's a good yeah,

600
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 4: very good for sure.

601
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: In this case, Bumblebe Tuna has found itself in a

602
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 2: landmark lawsuit where they're for Indonesian fishermen who are suing

603
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: Bumblebee Foods because they said these four fishermen alleged that

604
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: Bumblebee Tuna knowingly benefited. That's a quote from forced labor, debt,

605
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: bondage and other forms of abuse that we described in

606
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: that previous episode.

607
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: And that episode is from twenty twenty three. I'm having

608
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 3: a hard time believing that, but it's true. That episode

609
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 3: is from July of twenty twenty three. It's called the

610
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: one where we ruin canned seafood bones. It's an important

611
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 3: issue to us and you know, it's perfect if you

612
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: are having too good of a day.

613
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly, Okay, just last few things that rattle off,

614
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: and these really are rattling off, guys, because it's time

615
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: for this section. But Google search rescinding security clearances and

616
00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: access to classified information from specified individuals. That is where

617
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: you will find a list of people that have lost

618
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: their access to classified information who are formerly government officials,

619
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 2: who are not currently in office anymore, or at least

620
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: are not in favor with the current administration. It is

621
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: a very interesting thing to see one administration come through

622
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: and say, hey, people that I don't agree with or

623
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 2: don't like, or who were my enemies, my perceived enemies,

624
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: you no longer have access to the thing that generally,

625
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: you know, helped you with your job, you know, as

626
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: being an official in some capacity. It's very strange to

627
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: see that. It's not something that happens with every administration.

628
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 2: It's just a little weird. And then I pose to you, guys,

629
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: or at least I propose that we should do a

630
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: full episode on the twenty three and meters stuff as

631
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: we were going through it for this, you know, to

632
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: talk about it today. There's just a lot of complexity there.

633
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: I called it in twenty nineteen.

634
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: You remember we've talked about this. It's it's a dangerous

635
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: thing when all of that information is just hanging out

636
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: with a private company and they're trying to figure out,

637
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: Oh do we do an IPO, do we go public?

638
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: Oh do we sell to one other private investor? Who

639
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: is that investor? Like?

640
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: Are we a DNA analysis company or are we a

641
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 4: data gathering company?

642
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

643
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 5: Yeah?

644
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know every single person that's spit into

645
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 2: a thing is the product. So congrats.

646
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 5: We talk about how that question. I think they knew

647
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 5: the answer from the start.

648
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. We'll be right back afterward

649
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: from our sponsors with more strange.

650
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: News and we return, y'all. Pilots are just like us.

651
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 4: They can be absent minded, little little.

652
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 5: Silly goofballs too, just like us, Just like us. Thank you.

653
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 4: A United Airlines flight from Los Angeles heading to shang

654
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 4: I had to make an emergency diversion to San Francisco

655
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 4: after the pilot realized that he did not have his passport.

656
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: Dylan, can we get the whoopsie sound c from Mortal Kombat?

657
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 6: Whoopsie made it?

658
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 5: See yeah, you know the one.

659
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 4: Yep, he apparently grumpily announced this over the P eight.

660
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 3: Well there's a stupid and then of course still followed

661
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: up with the weather right, oh yeah, a positive note,

662
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: the looking great levels sailing.

663
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, should be a smooth ride all the way to

664
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Speaker 4: San Francisco where we were not going. Yeah, it was

665
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 4: a six hour, all told delay to the passengers going

666
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 4: where they were going, and to whoever was unlucky enough

667
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 4: to be scheduled to be on that plane next.

668
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 5: Because we all know.

669
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 6: How airline delays work.

670
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 4: It is a rolling domino effect situation. And they I've

671
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: always been irritated about this, Ben and Matt, I'm sure

672
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: you guys have noticed this too. They don't give you

673
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: information in a timely manner. They want to keep you

674
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: hanging on. They want to keep you hanging on with

675
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 4: these rolling delays when they probably know what the full

676
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: delay extent is going to be. But instead they just

677
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 4: keep moving it ten minutes, fifteen minutes. And I don't

678
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 4: know what do you guys, how do you cope with this?

679
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: Like where you really decide to cut your losses if

680
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: you haven't left yet for the airport and don't and

681
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 4: don't want to be stuck there because you don't trust

682
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: the damn airlines.

683
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: To be honest with you. So you haven't left yet.

684
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 6: I have, I haven't yet. It has happened to me recently.

685
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 4: It was rolling delays and I was trying to decide, yeah,

686
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 4: because it was actually on our way to our big trip,

687
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 4: our big show in Brooklyn. Because I was traveling, I

688
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 4: was having to check a bag with some very not

689
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: only expensive, but important equipment for our show, and I

690
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: was worried that if I went to the airport and

691
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 4: then the flight was canceled after I already checked the bag,

692
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 4: it might end up in some kind of airport limbo,

693
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I actually asked you about this,

694
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 4: Ben at the time, So maybe share your perspective with

695
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 4: the listeners too, because I know you're a season traveler

696
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: and probably run into this more times than I have.

697
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: Oh shucks. I love hanging at airports, you guys. Remember

698
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: when we were stranded at the Atlanta Aircraft Yes, yeah,

699
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: with war Yeah who says Hi. By the way, we

700
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: we were hanging there, and we were in the same

701
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: sort of domino effect situation. We were still there. Yeah,

702
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: beautifully described. Yeah, so one of the questions was how

703
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: long do we stay at this airport in the city

704
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: that we all live it. You know, we're not stranded

705
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: out in Sammarcan's or something. We're we're in our hometown.

706
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: And we ended up staying there because of the information

707
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: drip that you were talking about. The plane, if I

708
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: recall correctly, the plane, our flight kept getting pushed just

709
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: a little at a time, a little at a time,

710
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 3: and we kept saying, well, it's not really worth it

711
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: for us to drive back home and then go through security. Uh,

712
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: so we better befriend everybody else who was stranded. And

713
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: we had an epic night. But I know there's a question, Noel,

714
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: that all of us listening are are gonna expect. Uh

715
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: And so I asked on behalf of our conspiracy realist,

716
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: what airline was it?

717
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: Oh?

718
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, I was United?

719
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 6: Which is what type of plane was it?

720
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 5: Unclear?

721
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: Probably a Boeing, but it was, Yeah, the Boeing.

722
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 5: Didn't make dude forget his passport.

723
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: I know, I know Boeing gets such a hard time.

724
00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 4: Of the dude.

725
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 5: Why not let's just throw it at them.

726
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 3: Somebody Congress will be like, now is it? Is it correct?

727
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: That the Boeing aircraft does not provide on board passports

728
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: all the pilots, Like, no, Senator, that would be illegal.

729
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 3: That's not how passports.

730
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, exactly, I guess it.

731
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Speaker 4: Never you know, this is interesting to me, I think too,

732
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: because because it never really occurred to me that pilots

733
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 4: are like subject to all the same crap that the

734
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: rest of us are. They might get waved through certain security,

735
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 4: there might be like a expedited line for them and stuff.

736
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Speaker 4: And also depending on maybe where this person was going

737
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 4: to end up, perhaps this was a resident of China

738
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: and definitely needed the passport to get home.

739
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: Even Yeah, that's a that's a great question because this

740
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 3: you're absolutely right about the cool line at the airport.

741
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: That's for flight crew, that's for the pilots, and and

742
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: you're also absolutely correct, I would say regarding you know,

743
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: the question of nationale. We can assume this was a

744
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: US passport holder, but do we know that for sure?

745
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 5: I don't think so. We didn't. They didn't name names.

746
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: And it's actually pretty funny. The reporting on this is

747
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: a little bit light. Honestly. Maybe it's just an information

748
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 4: air gap kind of situation with the airline. But the

749
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: one they just got the most. CNN just got the

750
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 4: most absolutely lackluster quote from one of the passengers.

751
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 5: I'm feeling pretty frustrated.

752
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: A business traveler who requested anonym and he told CNN,

753
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 4: I have to reschedule all my plans for Monday, which

754
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 4: is really inconvenient.

755
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 3: It steaks though, because you know, we have to exercise.

756
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: We would probably have said the same thing. You know,

757
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: if CNN showed up at that that cursed what what

758
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: was it? Like a blue moon or Gordon Biersch power

759
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: is it? You see? It showed up and asked us,

760
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 3: we would have been we would have been like, uh,

761
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: we we have said some of the same things.

762
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 5: We probably would have bought CNN a drink at that point, man,

763
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 5: I mean we were we were.

764
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 4: Just owned it at that you know, we were just

765
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 4: posted up like like what's that movie where Tom Hanks

766
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 4: lives in the airport?

767
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 5: We were like the terminal. We were terminal boys.

768
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: Can you guys, like, really, can you imagine that panic

769
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: that would set in if you were flight Yeah, and

770
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: you can visualize your passports sitting there on the table

771
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: like you put it there to remember it, but you.

772
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: Your stomach drops and it's even I would argue it's

773
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: even worse on some level because not just not only

774
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: is there a ton of people trusting you right depending

775
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: on you and they all have their together beat me there,

776
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: but also perhaps on an even more damaging social aspect

777
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: of it, you have a co pilot, Yeah, and your

778
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: co pilot, like you know, in a different country, they

779
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 3: might just tell you to get the parachute and pop

780
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 3: off the plate because we got somebody else who can

781
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: fly it.

782
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 4: Well, it's my understanding that they diverted to San Francisco

783
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: so they could get a whole new flight crew, Like

784
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 4: so they like do it was donezo? And I gotta

785
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 4: ask you, guys, do you think And I'm sorry, I

786
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 4: sick keep saying, dude, we don't have no indication of

787
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: this individual's gender, but you.

788
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 5: Think they got to let go? It's pretty bad, dude,

789
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 5: It's a pretty bad look for the airline.

790
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe, how do you what what is the

791
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: middle ground between being let go and being severely wrist slapped?

792
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: You get? You get a passport on a on like

793
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: a lanyard.

794
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a lamin it like Matt's a girl gotten

795
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 4: press pass.

796
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 3: Right right right? You you get. I mean, really, it's

797
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 3: a case of human error, absent mindedness. Without more context,

798
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: you know, it'd be very Look, pilots have such a

799
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: high threshold of learning, and they have such expertise, and

800
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: there's such an investment of time that I don't think

801
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: this person will get fired. I'm sure they will get punished,

802
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: but it's not like some of those other pilots who

803
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: get you know, not canned, but faced at the airport

804
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 3: bar and they're like a hop on, I'm playing.

805
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 4: Well, we have no indication there is any intoxication involved,

806
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: no intoxication indication, and there was nobody harm's way at

807
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 4: any point. This is literally just an example of a

808
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 4: really foolish thing to have done and an embarrassment to

809
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 4: the airline and this individual, who to my knowledge thus

810
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 4: far has not been named. Gosh, guys, I had no

811
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 4: idea that was going to be such a robust conversation.

812
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 5: That was meant to be my little throwaway story.

813
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 4: I got a story here about burn in the Galopa

814
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 4: ghosts getting pissed off because of traffic noise.

815
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 5: A fantastic study.

816
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 4: From some very very smart folks who simulated different types

817
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 4: of traffic noise and different concentrations and basically animal behavior.

818
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: Is The is the journal that published the study about

819
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 4: how Galopagos yellow warblers respond when traffic noise disrupts their

820
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 4: communication systems. It essentially shows that there are environmental things

821
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 4: that lead to evolution much quicker than maybe one might think.

822
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 5: And I know, you know, look, this is the way

823
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 5: to put this is.

824
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: Thus, Charles Darwin, this is from a study finds fantastic

825
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: type by the way Great Resource dot org sort of

826
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 4: crystallization of this. Charles Darwin may have studied finches during

827
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 4: his famous Galapagos visit in eighty thirty five, but today's

828
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 4: yellow warblers are offering modern lessons about adaptation to human

829
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 4: altered environments. Rather than evolutionary changes occurring over generations, these

830
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 4: birds are showing behavioral changes within their own lifetimes. So

831
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 4: these human made knock on consequences that are invading, you know,

832
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 4: natural habitats for these creatures are causing much more accelerated

833
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: evolutionary traits, which I think is super super interesting. Again,

834
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 4: to wrap this up, research teams from the University of

835
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 4: Vienna set up experiments across two Galapagos islands that differ

836
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 4: dramatically in their human footprint. Santa Cruz hosts over fifteen

837
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Speaker 4: thousand people in more than a thousand vehicles, while Florinia

838
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 4: Island has about one hundred residents and only ten vehicles.

839
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Speaker 4: This contrast created a natural laboratory for studying how different

840
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 4: levels of exposure to traffic noise affect bird behavior. And

841
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 4: it just goes into this whole concept of sound as

842
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: a survival tool for these creatures. You know, they use

843
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 4: it to communicate, they use it to signal danger, to

844
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 4: attract mates so that they can reproduce. And this is

845
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 4: potentially causing problems in those departments, which is causing the

846
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 4: birds to have to sing louder and be a lot

847
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 4: more aggressive and they're mating you know, rituals and habits.

848
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: And no one still, no one's going to talk about

849
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: the effects of submarines and sonar on whales, which is

850
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 3: a very similar situation. Yeah, I got I gotta point

851
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: out one we're talking about this briefly off air. One

852
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: related story that stood out to me. I just have

853
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: to say, at least I'm like emotionally four years old.

854
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: There's another issue with light pollution for a specific type

855
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: of bird over in Switzerland. Great tits are having fewer

856
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 3: young in the city because of the light pollution. They're

857
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 3: the kind you know, they're great. Tits are the great

858
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: tits are the types who really get down when the

859
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Speaker 3: lights are off.

860
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 4: You know it seems yeah, yeah, t he indeed. And

861
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 4: I just want to read this last quote from the

862
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Speaker 4: study Finds piece, which I think is so well done.

863
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 4: They said, think of trying to have an important conversation

864
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: while standing next to a busy highway. You'd likely change

865
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 4: how you speak or isort to gestures to get your

866
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 4: point across. Birds face similar challenges with the potentially life

867
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 4: altering consequences.

868
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 5: And then whole section on the power of noise.

869
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

870
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 4: Man, it's a great, great resource. So this is a

871
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: road rage how busy streets yield angry birds on studyfines

872
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 4: dot org.

873
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, you can tell the energy is great. This evening, folks,

874
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: fellow conspiracy realists, because we have a lot of stuff

875
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: we didn't get to yet, and we will get to

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