WEBVTT - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Mike Tomlin Breaks Silence + Rams Draft Ty Simpson 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:00.760 Can I tell you? 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.760 Can I say something funny though, just off the off 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.800 the top of when did you see the draft when 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.800 they drafted Todd Simpson to the Rams and Hal McVeigh 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:12.159 was not happy with it? 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:17.240 Listen, bro, listen, they say what they want to on 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:18.080 that one, brother. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.439 How do you do? How do you do? What you don't? 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:25.760 I don't understand that one unless they thinking like, how 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:26.400 how long. 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:27.800 Do you think Stafford got left? 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.320 I think I think that's that's the thing. 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.720 I think it's the I feel like it's more like 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:37.319 the like the Bill Belichick Tom Brady thing where if 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.640 you start if you bring in the But this one, 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.960 I think the coach is believing in Matthew Stafford. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:43.800 I'm not bringing it. 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.360 I think we got a team where at this thirteenth pick, 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:48.879 you need to bring somebody else that can help us 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.720 just get over the top. Not nobody's gonna be sitting 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.800 behind my Hall of Fame quarterback that I love that. 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.120 I'm trying to go win some Super Bowls with you 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:58.360 know what I'm saying. I feel like that's where the 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.320 GMA bump with you talking about I'm going to think 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.120 for the long term that he might not be here 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.959 too much longer and some things like this you idiot, like, no, 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.880 my thing is I think it's more of a. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.600 You look at it. You look at the quarterback drivet. 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:19.520 Okay, yes, not a strong quarterback drift, right, No, you 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.040 know you go have stafford for at least what to maybe. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.400 Three at least minimum minimum? 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.640 Okay, So why not wait till next year or the 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.000 year after to go grab something in the first round 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:31.560 versus it being this. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.120 I think that might be why he was more looking. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:39.600 Like quack, it's the position and who it is. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.880 Right, It's the position and the time that you got 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.800 it with who it is like, It's not like you 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.320 you were going through a strong. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.720 Quarterback you know, draft year. 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:58.520 Everybody out there who has any type of well, any 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.720 analyst right now, most of them I would say, we're like, yo, 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.400 Chadora was better than everybody in this drive. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.040 But yeah he went five he went fifth round. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.679 And this is what you do in the wee gets 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.320 draft up that they're saying they've had since who knows 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:19.400 when is you go and get him as a yeah 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.200 at thirteen? No, I think I think I feel like 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:27.000 it's both like it's it's quarterback is at thirteen is 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.240 I don't think he's that good, and we could have got. 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.720 Him later help us out. We got our franchise quarterback 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.520 still here for the next couple of years. And I 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:40.040 just think because McVeigh he got so much passion and 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.720 so much like he's he doesn't hide his emotions, you. 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:44.200 Know what I'm saying. 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:44.880 So I couldn't. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.400 He ain't pull it in fast enough. But he couldn't 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.919 knock it up after that. You couldn't, And Buddy said, 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.200 I wasn't. It was a tie. 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:53.760 Got on the phone with him and hit him with 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:55.680 the uh. He was like, yeah, coach, let's go do 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.119 something great. He was like, man, you know what I'm saying. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:57.760 Enjoy your night. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:04.079 I said, God, dangn let's go make history. 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:07.160 Yea do You're gonna be great sitting here watching him 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.680 for the next two three years and watch the old 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.239 Stafford and I know I could have grabbed something that 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:13.560 would have been better next year. 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.960 Yeah, that was wicked, bro. I he couldn't hide it. 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.200 Hey he should, Hey, what's good about it? 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.040 I was talking about that boy should have took that 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.160 six and a half he just won. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:35.000 He just won just one de boat only and only. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:35.880 Takes one A. 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.800 But he won for now now, no question. He definitely 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:41.400 won for now. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.880 But if he's sitting behind Stafford for the next three 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.840 four years, yeah, he might have wanted to. 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:48.600 Take that six, go back in there and come. 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.640 Back out dad, So he could have probably tried to 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.720 go one. But no, I don't I don't know. I 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:54.520 don't know what tip. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.800 If i'm I don't think I'm still able to take 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.960 the six, You're still taking the six. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:01.840 I'm still taking the sixth and ninety. He better on 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:08.000 himself and one man did he? Yes? Did he? Brother? 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.160 Long Hall, we go see if he really wants Look 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.440 the staff you're still sitting there. Look thirty four years. 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.919 What are you going to get on that next contract? 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.320 I'm gonna tell we're gonna figure that out. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.440 Because because it was in between the highest player, a 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.320 number one player is going to get like fifty two million, 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.839 and the lowest player is going to get thirteen. So 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.599 in between there he might have just been at He 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.840 might be around the twenty twenty two area. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.000 What the thirteen What the thirteenth pick getting right now? 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.040 Y'all chat telling the thirteen pick right please? 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.360 Something like that, because I them number one was fifty 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:50.239 two and number thirty two was like thirteen. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.000 Man as chat chat. 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.360 To tell you if you will tell you something and 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.440 you got you got your true protocol set up though 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.120 because you know what it lie, you. 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:09.640 Don't they will, they will. Let's cut it in half. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:15.599 Twenty four yes on them sign yeah twenty yeah, guaranteed 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.040 twenty five And is that that's four years though, right, Yeah, 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:22.000 that's about. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.080 The same a fifth year option. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:23.919 It's about six and. 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.680 A half with a fifth year option, and that fifth 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:30.520 yeard option could be like twenty like my man alignment, Uh, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.480 what's my man? That's Roderick really Yeah, that fifty option 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.240 twenty So the fifth years not counted to He's not counted. No, 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.159 it's not counted to this all. So he got four years, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.600 he got four years, twenty five million, fully guaranteed. 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.680 Twenty four or twenty four something like that. Yeah, so 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.080 that's that's sixty year. 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:51.480 That six a year for the next four years though, 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.440 fully guaranteed, so every year no matter what though, he 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:55.840 got four years of If I. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.839 Get hurt, if that's six and a half and I 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:58.640 come back at the. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.960 One, okay, but then he gonna man we speaking d. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.880 Bow now now I think you're looking at it a 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:06.720 little bit more differently though. 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:11.039 I am, but I'm still I'm still He's hitting. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.599 He's going back for six and a half. 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.560 He's hitting that six million right now though, regardless of 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.039 balling or not. And then if he gets in the 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.000 game ends up starting to bawl. He has that fifty 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:24.720 option they given pick it up or let it. 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.920 Go, and then the likelihood of what's going to happen 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:32.400 right now with toddout injury without injury, I still feel 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:40.560 going back is better. I don't forget that that that 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.239 he and Cally too, so that that that that twelve, 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.200 that's that twenty four just turned to twelve. 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.800 Yeah, if I'm him, I'm still I'm gone. Hey he 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:54.640 and Florida, that's six and a half. Still what it is? 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.719 Well cut well on Todd, he was A'bama. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.760 They wanted him to go to my own Miami. 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:05.520 For okay, all right, I'm not gonna say you Nikkolin Diamond, 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:06.400 but I'm saying that. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.520 Throw that out there for it's that rookie pay Scallery thirteen. 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:12.640 They got him at twenty five four. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:18.120 Year one is four h fourteen point nine, fourteen point 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:18.440 n I. 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.080 Understand it's guaranteed, but year one is only four. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:25.880 Okay, five six, it's not but no, no, but it's 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.480 fourteen point nine signing bonus. You gotta think about that's 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.920 that's he getting that. That signing bonus is in the 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:39.760 first year. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be that bomb. He's 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.240 gonna be sitting there looking nice. Move at fourteen nine 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.520 he got that sit Oh yeah, come get this, Come 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.440 get this fourteen point nine signing monus fum. Then you're like, okay, 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:50.960 now that's when that's how they say that the deal 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.800 was four four years twenty five, but that fourteen nine, 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:54.760 now he's gonna be doing. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.520 The rest of the deal is three for ten. 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.840 That next three years he gonna get probably three and 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.160 had three point three for the For the rest of 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.240 the deals, he get fourteen point nine the first one. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.200 Then opening up. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.520 To the last year of picking up his fifty option 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:13.520 could be twenty, so his whole deal could be five years. 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:17.480 His rookie Junker ended up being five years for forty 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:18.080 five million. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:29.520 M I mean, I'm still you still not doing nothing. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.080 You would have competed, you would have rolled out though, 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.400 come come to the league. Instant league, first rookie season 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.920 backup or now fourteen nine Joe fourteen. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.000 To nine, backup or now. 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.040 I was thinking even if he didn't go, if he 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:47.600 went to the like that guaranteed over those years is 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.760 just I mean, the quicker you can get, I mean 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.400 not the quicker you can get to the league. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:56.200 You understand what your chance is starting in LA. Didn't 0:08:56.200 --> 0:09:01.040 he do again in Miami? It does to matter if 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.040 he's going to be starting or not. I think if 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.160 he goes back to college and get six and a 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:11.400 half million right now, he just went to the Los 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.920 Angeles Rams, he's going to be behind him. That's the 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.439 best case scenario too, because that's a fire team. Say now, 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.280 if they do leave and Matthew Stafford doesn't even the 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.360 next two years, you do what you gotta do. You 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:23.440 looking like Malee Cooker. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.720 Now instantly you play fourteen twelve games, they like this, 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.480 Oh he could be a franchise quarterback. Let's see what's 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.440 up and then you hit the market or they pick 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.199 you up, and now the numbers are going up. In 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.360 the next three four years, he'd be sitting at thirty 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.599 five a year, chilling as a proven deal before the 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.160 because the franchise do by this, not seventy million year. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.680 The money's not doing nothing but going up. It's sixty 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.480 right now. It's just time, So just let him play. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.640 Be there while you're making your six million dollars a 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.200 year figuring it out, trying to get right on the league. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.040 If you're playing cool, then hopefully you're going to ball. 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.679 But you're on the raided. You're behind Matthew Stafford. I'm 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.680 chilling and I'm trying to figure it out until my 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:02.480 time comes. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.920 Ball another bag. 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.600 Mm hm hm hmmm. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.360 I wold I listen. 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.480 Listen when you when you pick something up and the 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.640 and the and that and that in that first round, 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.040 that's usually something that's supposed to help you right now. 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:22.800 A thousand percent, not two, three, maybe four years down 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:24.840 the road. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.640 Mum hum, like you don't think you could have picked 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.000 somebody else up that could have put you over that 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.240 hump to get to that Super Bowl and not be 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:36.560 sitting behind Seattle. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:41.240 I'm Sean McVay. I'm pissed. I'm trying to hopefully be 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:42.720 getting GM over there. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:44.040 The dude that was. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.200 Standing next to him that said it, I forgot his name. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:46.600 He was. 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:51.920 He was not happy with him Less Snead. He was 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.040 sitting there staring at less snee when he said it 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:55.560 and was not happy. 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.200 But I'm looking at it. That's where I'm looking at it. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:10:58.880 Like the end of the day. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:00.240 I think less need is on. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:07.760 Some hey man looks to cut his throat. He looked pissed. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:13.600 Brother, And they trying to talk about hold up before 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:14.160 we even leave it? 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:14.599 What about that? 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.680 Do you remember what we were talking about how the 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:23.160 Steelers was on the phone with your boy debo with 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:23.720 the receiver. 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.200 Do you think that was Jimmy Red? 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.720 Do you do? You do you think we actually got that? 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:32.800 That that that pick I stole that Pi've been laughing 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:37.960 at the every every every every was supposed to happen 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.719 if we'd have been on the phone man and he 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:40.240 went up. 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.000 There and what he was doing, I don't know if 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:47.199 he was hitting the Stevie wonder what I'm like, what's 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:48.040 going on? 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:50.079 Ship? 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.439 Yeah, I don't know what was going on? 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.400 Yeah, this was meant to be that brother. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.400 Y'all got that take that that brother that like you 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.600 started looking up like his whole. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.400 Thing like he was. He was, he was vibbed up. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:07.959 They said that ain't even him not they didn't even 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.080 know what was going on. Okay, this man. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:15.920 Clean cut, real, real, real, we're well smoking like like 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:17.600 in high school at least, like I don't know what 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:18.880 happened since he got, you know. 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.079 To college. But man even turn that swag. 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.240 Up, turned that swag up, like that's what that was. 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.520 I'm telling you, that's what he that's what he Yes, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:28.680 that's what he was going for. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.800 I didn't. I mean, I don't know who's going for. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.440 I'm telling you, I think we. 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.200 Might have had to answer some questions if it did 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:40.160 that coming in with an interview right there in Pittsburgh, 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:41.840 did have to answer some questions. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.200 Okay, you glad that you glad that everything worked out 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.000 for the way it did, though, no question one of 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:51.920 the yes, there's no mistakes, everything reason for everything, having 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:53.600 for a reason, ended up getting who you wanted in 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.360 the second round of the receiver, ended up getting who 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:57.960 we needed. 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:04.280 Okay, you understand, Okay, we needed exactly what we got. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.680 All right, just to just check and just making sure, 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:08.440 no question. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.120 From what my man little Wody told me, we got 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.080 a dog over there, we gotta we got we got 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:15.280 a puppy that liked the bike. 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:16.480 I'm listening to it. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.960 A puppet that liked the bike that to grown, full 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.199 grown rabbit dog. 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:29.640 Still I believe I believe he that man going to Bama, So. 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.200 I'm always gonna get him the first benefit of the doubt. 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.320 Listen, man, the Eagles could have y'all what they got 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:39.720 over there. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:44.360 Man, But peep game, Baby Athletic. 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:49.520 New York Times, we got this right here, oh coach 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:54.680 t He breaks silence, explains factors that went into Steller's 0:13:54.880 --> 0:14:03.040 records AIG national teeth. He said, it probably not and 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.720 it probably it was probably not an overnight decision, but 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:12.600 it's probably not something I could articulate or share with people. 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.960 There is a loneliness with leadership. I just thought it 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.560 was a good time for me personally, and what I 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.400 mean by that is just where I am in life, 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.640 and I thought it would be a good time for 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:31.280 the organization. To be quite honest with you, we didn't 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.200 have a lot of success in the playoffs in recent years. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.760 There's just some veteran players there that were worthy of 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:46.040 excitement and the optimism associated with new leadership. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.840 What do you think of that statement. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:57.280 Joe, I think it was honest. I think that coach 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.040 decision is step in the way. I think it was 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.040 just I think it was his time. I think he 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.520 didn't want to be able to bring anybody else into it. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.040 I think he was a good coach and it will 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.560 stay singlely focused. So when I talk to like some 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.720 of the dudes, I don't think nobody on the team 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.400 expected it to happen because once you because when you're 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.600 in the season, your coach, if your coach is a 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.920 great coach, there's no sideline things that you're really talking to. 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.120 You're always trying to keep it. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.360 On next game or the meeting is what can we 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.000 do better to get our team to this next level. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:26.960 So there's really no time. 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.000 Even when you're playing NFL period, there's no time to 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.160 really sit and talk about winning the championships, winning the 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.160 super Bowls because you're trying to get to the next 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.440 super Bowl. When you don't win the Super Bowl, your 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.640 next job, obviously the next season is to get to. 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:39.280 The super Bowl. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.600 So there's no real offseason, there's no real time to reflect. 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.720 And I think being a good coach or a great 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.800 coach like the ones, their time away from the game, 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.400 I mean their time away from their families, and stuff 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.640 like that is a lot more than you would expect. 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:56.400 So I'm rocking with coach T and yeah, it just 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.440 is what it is. I think his decision to step 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.800 away was on him. I think it was time, like 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.680 he said, not winning the playoff games and you want 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.840 to be wanted, like when you went we went to 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.280 that game and he was getting booed fired. That thing 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.800 doesn't really feel as good when you don't have the 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.400 success and you're trying and then you feel like I'm 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.240 not wanted in my home type stuff, and he did 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:17.960 sixteen years. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.760 It is a long time. You haven't been. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.720 Able to step away or be able to do anything else. 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:25.960 Nineteen years, you know what I'm saying. So not being 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.320 able to step away, and that's head coach not minding 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.160 when he was in Tampa doing an assistant coach and 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.160 doing all of the levels that you got to take 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.480 to get to the head coaching job. So I'm rocking 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.360 with coach he being able to step away, being able 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.800 to do kind of what he wants. Going to TV now, 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:41.720 I think he's going to be great at it, just 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.800 from his perspective, the way that he's articulate, the way 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.400 he can talk, I loved him in the team meetings, 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.000 just listening to him talking and listening to the way 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:49.920 he broke down the game. 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.600 So it's all good. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:58.040 Yeah, Yeah, I ain't. Yeah, I think I mean, it 0:16:58.080 --> 0:16:59.480 is what it is. He said what it was, and 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:04.040 you know that's you know, that's what it is. Especially, 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:05.959 you know, with him just saying you know what it was. 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:07.480 You know, it felt like it was time. As I 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:09.800 said before, like they weren't going to get rid of him. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.680 He was going to be able to walk away while 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.240 it was time for him say he was finished. And 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:22.399 that's you know, that's what he got. But they asked 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:29.040 him to predict who would be the stillest quarterback this season, 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:33.439 and he said, Man, if you had a gun to 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:37.119 my head, I say it's Sam Rogers. You know, been 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.080 around him for twelve months. I was around him. 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:41.080 He's got a life. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:44.840 He got a love affair with the game, not not 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:49.359 only the game, but the process, the informative moments, the 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:54.080 development of the young guys, the connections with teammates. I 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.040 think he's got an addiction to that and there's only 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.600 one way to feed it. Certainly, he is still capable 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.960 and in really good shape, so I think at the 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.520 end of the day, he'll play football. 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:14.320 What do you think, John, I think coach t is saying, basically, 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:15.600 at the end of the day, if he's saying he's 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.840 going to play football, that it's on his own time. 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.400 But I think he said he's gonna come back. I'm 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.520 not he doesn't know if, but when so like, there's 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.040 no Aaron Rodgers is a grown man that could do 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.480 whatever he wants, and I think that it's going to 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.040 be a point where it happens to the other players 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.560 where you just don't get that phone call. I think 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:40.320 he's good enough or still feels you know what I'm saying, 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:41.879 that it's good enough that teams are still going to 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.199 need him and have to take a rod in no 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.080 matter what when he comes in and tells them, you 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.320 know what, I'm ready to come back and play. When 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.840 you see things like when Rivers ends up coming back 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.159 off the couch midway through the year, you know what 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.719 I'm saying, there's always that quarterback position. When you're that 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:59.000 talented and you're that good, the phone will still get 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.040 picked up more than for offensive tackle, a deepensive end, 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.480 a cornerback, a wide receiver, because. 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.080 What you get he said to Brown, he said, the Stellers. Sorry, 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:07.960 he just said the Stealers. 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:09.639 What you mean? He just asked. 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.600 They asked him, who do you think will be the 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.159 Stellers quarterback this season? 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.240 And he said, A Rod. I know, I'm just. 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:18.920 A going nowhere else. 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:19.080 Bro. 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.040 No, I'm just still saying, though, a Rod. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:27.000 If it's gonna take for now, if it's only the Stillers, 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:28.439 it's going to take for the Steelers to have to 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:30.640 move on from a Rod, then a Rod be able 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.359 to still make the decision if he wants to come 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:32.840 back or not. 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:35.240 Do you know what I'm saying. I understand what you're saying. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:36.960 So as long as the Steelers are saying, yo, we're 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.560