WEBVTT - Perfecting the Turn

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to on the job. Hope you all are

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<v Speaker 1>loose and limber, because this week we're going to put

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<v Speaker 1>on our dance and shoes and head down to Austin,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas to talk with Vanessa Vaught, who, as we'll hear,

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<v Speaker 1>keeps the live music capital of the world stepping to

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<v Speaker 1>the beat. On pretty much any night of the week

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin, Texas, you can find a dance floor full

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<v Speaker 1>of people in cowboy boots twirling each other around to

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<v Speaker 1>live music. The country dance scene, or two stepping as

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<v Speaker 1>it's referred to in these parts is going strong, and

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<v Speaker 1>a big reason for that is Vanessa Vaugh.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Vanessa Vaught.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the founder and lead dance instructor at doublin Nothing

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<v Speaker 3>two Step and I currently live in South Austin, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Vanessa isn't the only person teaching Austin knites how

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<v Speaker 1>to boot scoot these days. In just two years, she's

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<v Speaker 1>become one of the busiest and it really just.

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<v Speaker 3>Took off quickly in a way that even immediately I

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<v Speaker 3>was impressed with and was happy with what it has

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<v Speaker 3>become now literally having thirty events.

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<v Speaker 2>On the books in the next few months, is blowing

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<v Speaker 2>my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Four nights a week, she's teaching social classes at some

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<v Speaker 1>of the city's oldest surviving Honckey talks.

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<v Speaker 3>Dance is a language, so there are regional dialects throughout

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<v Speaker 3>the South, specifically of this style of dance, and we

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<v Speaker 3>dance a small space style that fits on our little

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<v Speaker 3>dance floors here and that's what we call Honky Tonk

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<v Speaker 3>two step.

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<v Speaker 1>Other nights, she's teaching corporate events.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we work with a lot of the major corporations.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean again, I never thought i'd have like Facebook,

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<v Speaker 3>Meta Apple, Bevo Schlektslet recently hired us to come teach

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<v Speaker 3>their cast and crew.

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<v Speaker 2>That was incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>HBO, Like my inbox is always interesting, I have to say.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there are the bachelorette parties.

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<v Speaker 3>Which we do line dancing and it's silly, adorable fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny because we don't socially line dance in Austin.

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<v Speaker 3>The two steples will just run you over. And initially

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<v Speaker 3>I had to say, probably the first four or five

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<v Speaker 3>requests for line dance lessons.

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<v Speaker 2>I got, I was a little bit like, uh, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't line dance here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, and was trying to inform people and correct

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<v Speaker 3>them and let them know, you know, we don't line dance.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was like, Vanessa, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Like these people want to pay you to have fun?

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<v Speaker 3>And I essentially gave in, still a little reluctantly, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I realized how much fun they were having, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I was sold.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, all right, fine, we'll line dance.

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<v Speaker 1>There are almost more people wanting Vanessa to teach them

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<v Speaker 1>how to dance then she can even manage. So business

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<v Speaker 1>is going well, it's going well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really wild. Honestly, I feel like I'm holding on

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<v Speaker 3>for dear life.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not lying. I struggle from attention deficit disorder and.

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<v Speaker 3>Organizational skills in general and keeping up. I have so

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<v Speaker 3>many systems and checklists just to keep up with all

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<v Speaker 3>my clients and how to follow up with all of

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<v Speaker 3>them afterward, review requests, getting photos, all the things I'm

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<v Speaker 3>doing with the social community.

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<v Speaker 1>And to think all this wouldn't have happened if Vanessa

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<v Speaker 1>didn't suck at selling houses.

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<v Speaker 3>I had got my license in twenty nineteen, so I

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<v Speaker 3>was doing real estate the pandemic hit.

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<v Speaker 2>And in real estate, it's all about experience.

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<v Speaker 3>And how many deals you've done, and just being able

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<v Speaker 3>to prove that you have knowledge because it's a risky

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<v Speaker 3>it's a risky thing to undertake.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wasn't really for me. I'm not a salesperson.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I took the disk assessment that compares your

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<v Speaker 3>work mode to like your personal mode for lack of

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<v Speaker 3>better description, and most people that are good at sales

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<v Speaker 3>kind of shift gears and then go into like sales

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<v Speaker 3>e mode, right, And my personality pretty much stays the

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<v Speaker 3>same within both, and I realize that's perfect for what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing now.

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<v Speaker 2>Was not good for real estate.

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<v Speaker 1>Without any money coming in from a real estate ventures, Vanessa,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people during the pandemic, tried some

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<v Speaker 1>side hustles.

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking for another place to pivot and a

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<v Speaker 3>form of income. In fact, I was selling vintage. I

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<v Speaker 3>was doing all these things, so like really, anything that

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<v Speaker 3>seemed viable, I was going to throw my effort at

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<v Speaker 3>the vintage.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing didn't really work out, though, and no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>many open houses she hosted, she couldn't turn them into sales.

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<v Speaker 1>But at least she had dancing. Each night, she and

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<v Speaker 1>her dance partner would scrounge up enough money to pay

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<v Speaker 1>a cover fee. Then they'd get out on the dance floor,

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<v Speaker 1>where Vanessa could forget all about her troubles.

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<v Speaker 3>Once we're moving, once we were like the bodies are

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<v Speaker 3>moving around, it kind of washes it all away.

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<v Speaker 1>And the more Vanessa dancer cares away, the more an

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<v Speaker 1>idea started to take shape, because she could see that

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<v Speaker 1>there were all these great live music venues around town,

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<v Speaker 1>and all these great bands to play in them, but

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<v Speaker 1>on most nights there weren't a heck of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people on the dance floors.

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<v Speaker 3>We were some of the only people and by only

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<v Speaker 3>I mean maybe four people total in the bar dancing

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<v Speaker 3>at the Sage Brush, with more people on stage playing

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<v Speaker 3>music than we're in the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>So Vanessa started thinking that what Austin needed was a

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<v Speaker 1>dance teacher, and why not her. If for nothing else,

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<v Speaker 1>she could at least get some more friends out on

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<v Speaker 1>the hard work, and then if they wanted to give

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<v Speaker 1>her a few bucks for her efforts, that'd be great too.

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<v Speaker 1>And right around the same time as COVID regulations started

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<v Speaker 1>to ease, the owner of one of those bars that

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<v Speaker 1>she was frequenting came up to her.

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<v Speaker 3>He asked me if we would like to host the

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<v Speaker 3>social classes and we said yes. That gave me essentially

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<v Speaker 3>a goal, and in the six months it took to

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<v Speaker 3>actually have that come to be, that's when I really

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<v Speaker 3>started laying the foundation for this business, like social media website,

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<v Speaker 3>starting to teach private lessons, really starting to just build

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<v Speaker 3>awareness that this was something that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to be a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And how did that first night go?

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<v Speaker 3>We had eighty people at our first social class. It

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<v Speaker 3>was overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 1>But Vanessa could see right then and there on that

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<v Speaker 1>first night, looking out over that crowded dance floor, that

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<v Speaker 1>she'd tapped into something so true to her business name,

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<v Speaker 1>Double or Nothing. She didn't leave it at that. She

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<v Speaker 1>went to another country bar in town and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do you all need someone to teach your customers how

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<v Speaker 1>to dance?

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<v Speaker 3>And they told me that they were hesitant at first,

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<v Speaker 3>but I actually used to go there.

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<v Speaker 2>In my early twenties, so a while ago. Same staff

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<v Speaker 2>still there and they knew me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think through seeing that I was teaching the classes

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<v Speaker 3>at Sam's as well, essentially extended an offer for me

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<v Speaker 3>to come and try teaching at dance.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're about to hit the two year mark. I believe.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've literally had seven plus people at those classes

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<v Speaker 3>and that is not a big dance floor.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had them definitely spilling out over the dance floor.

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<v Speaker 3>It is. It's been amazing, and they just when I

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<v Speaker 3>leave the bar on Wednesdays are like.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. It's just crazy. It makes me

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<v Speaker 2>emotional now.

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<v Speaker 3>I still feel out a lot, actually, but it's overwhelming

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<v Speaker 3>that just the gratitude people had, and somehow it was

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<v Speaker 3>attributed to myself and my Ben dance partner. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>we're here too, you know, this is awesome for us

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<v Speaker 3>to like it felt It just felt odd to be

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<v Speaker 3>credited with again what we were so.

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<v Speaker 2>Grateful to have as well. It was lovely and it

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<v Speaker 2>still is sometimes. I still just like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>it gives me emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back from the break, we'll step out

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<v Speaker 1>onto the dance floor. So if you don't already have

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<v Speaker 1>Every Wednesday at six pm, Vanessa Vaught separates a crowd

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<v Speaker 1>of inexperienced, somewhat nervous dancers into two groups, leaders and followers.

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<v Speaker 1>Since founding her dance company Double or Nothing Back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, these social classes, which she does four

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<v Speaker 1>nights a week across Austin, have become incredibly popular, and

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<v Speaker 1>tonight is no exception, with dancers spilling out towards the.

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<v Speaker 3>Pool taping's that hart I beget You're here?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank it?

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<v Speaker 1>Whether we want to give credit to a post COVID

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<v Speaker 1>desired get back out amongst the people again, or the

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<v Speaker 1>TV show Yellowstone or Beyonce's new album. The country scene

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<v Speaker 1>is thriving these days and Austin, Texas and Vanessa Vought

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<v Speaker 1>are right at its center.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine, I'm not here to make you uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make you that are the really fun

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to enjoy the city. Well, specifically, what's happening here

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<v Speaker 3>is a massive live music scene and just the opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to go out and see so much live music every

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<v Speaker 3>week really has created a strong dance scene. There's tons

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<v Speaker 3>of them, and it's very intimidating for a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people to come in and see that. But that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of where I step in and encourage them that everybody

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<v Speaker 3>starts at the beginning. Some of the best dancers I've

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<v Speaker 3>been around now for about eight years, some of the

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<v Speaker 3>best dancers out there I've saw at the beginning. So

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<v Speaker 3>I just try to encourage them that they can do

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<v Speaker 3>this too, and it's just consistency over time, like anything else, repetition,

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<v Speaker 3>muscle memory.

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<v Speaker 1>The crowd tonight is a wide array of folks, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty somethings and short skirts and skinny jeans on

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<v Speaker 1>up to a retired couple who've got to take rests

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<v Speaker 1>in between songs, and all of them are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>stick to the rhythm of slow, slow, quick, quick, orreas

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa likes to say, I love two steps right.

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<v Speaker 2>Another way to need about this is I love.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Our beginner class is so much fun. It's probably

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<v Speaker 3>one of my favorites. I mean, I say that about

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<v Speaker 3>all of them. They're amazing in different ways. But the

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<v Speaker 3>beginner class is often people that are nervous to be there,

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying something new, maybe they're from out of town.

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<v Speaker 3>It's generally an introduction to the scene as a whole,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as the dance. We start off with the

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<v Speaker 3>basic steps so that they understand kind of the difference

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<v Speaker 3>between maybe what they've seen on YouTube, Instagram or elsewhere

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<v Speaker 3>where they've learned Texas two step, because ours, again is

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<v Speaker 3>regionally specific fix style.

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<v Speaker 2>We learn how to do some spins and swing, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we learn how to jump back to two steps.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is really the foundation for the beginner sequence,

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<v Speaker 3>as I call it, and that's always my beginner classes,

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<v Speaker 3>that same pattern. My intermediate classes and advanced classes go

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<v Speaker 3>from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you still excited about dancing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always excited about dancing. It's always the thing I

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<v Speaker 3>want to do the most. It really does change the

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<v Speaker 3>way you feel. Sometimes when I'm on the dance floor

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm dancing with someone that's making it very very clear,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't have to think, and I close my eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>I close my eyes a lot when I dance. It

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<v Speaker 3>is it feels the same as sitting still. It just

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<v Speaker 3>feels so good. I love it so much, and I

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<v Speaker 3>realize it's not where everybody starts, because it wasn't where

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<v Speaker 3>I started. But once I realized, like over time, that

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<v Speaker 3>feeling starts to be more and more present because your

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<v Speaker 3>muscle memory takes over and you don't have to so

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<v Speaker 3>much manage what's happening. Your brain doesn't have to control

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening with your body. It really becomes this meditative state.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it is my favorite part, to be honest with me,

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<v Speaker 3>I can love about this.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were doing the real estate thing, you're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>outside of a house that doesn't sell. Could you have

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<v Speaker 1>ever foreseen being where you're at now?

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<v Speaker 2>Not even remotely.

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<v Speaker 3>No. I was in freefall during the pandemic, absolute free fall.

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<v Speaker 3>I was borrowing money from my sister to pay rent.

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking in my couch cushions for enough money

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<v Speaker 3>to get a five dollars bill to get into the

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<v Speaker 3>bar to go dance.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in absolute free fall. So could I have

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<v Speaker 2>foreseen this? No? All right, thank you for doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really cute. We're going to do? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think you'll stick with this business for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>I think about that a lot. I will definitely probably

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<v Speaker 3>ride it into the ground. We'll see, but I also

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<v Speaker 3>realized there's so much potential that I've yet to tap,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I guess I'm at a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>point where I'm just trying to figure out what path

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<v Speaker 3>to take, and also to remind myself that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to be perfect, and just allowing myself to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of play a little more with ideas that I have

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<v Speaker 3>versus feeling like I constantly need to be booking events

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<v Speaker 3>and going and working them.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter how good of a dancer you are, there's

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<v Speaker 1>always room for improvement, and the same holds true in business.

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<v Speaker 1>So this year, despite all her success, Vanessa's really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to create more of an online presence to reach all

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<v Speaker 1>those people out there who might be interested in dancing,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they be near or far.

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<v Speaker 3>I again realize it takes physically connecting with another human

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<v Speaker 3>to really learn what it is to partner dance, but

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<v Speaker 3>I do think there's a lot to be gained.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition, of course, couples can enjoy this.

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<v Speaker 3>People visiting Austin that maybe want to get a head

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<v Speaker 3>start on dancing, learning how to do our regionally specific

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<v Speaker 3>dance and then just go out and have a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that there's a market there. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a market there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure it's directly my social community, but the

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<v Speaker 3>internet's a big place, so I'm looking forward to tackling

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<v Speaker 3>that next.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to learn how to two step,

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<v Speaker 1>be on the lookout for double or nothing coming to

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<v Speaker 1>a computer screen near you, or better yet, just get

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<v Speaker 1>on a plane and come join us down here. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'd advise you that if you're coming for the beginner class,

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<v Speaker 1>you better show up early if you want a spot

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<v Speaker 1>on the dance floor for on the job. I'm Avery Thompson.