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Speaker 1: co host today with Steve Tasker still on vacation. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk more about quarterbacks. Which of the teams in

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Speaker 1: the NFL that switch quarterbacks from a year ago will

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Speaker 1: be most improved. Will it be the Denver Broncos with

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Speaker 1: new quarterback this year will be most improved. One Bill's

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Speaker 1: to show. That's what we're doing right now. John Murphy

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Speaker 1: here and our one Buffalo studio in Orchard Park, New York,

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Speaker 1: o'clock on this quiet day in Orchard Park, Quiet, cloudy, overcast, nondescript.

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Speaker 1: It's not a whole lot going out. The weather's kind

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Speaker 1: snowstorms are all right. Welcome to the show. Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: is here, Ladies and gentlemen. Chris Brown Bills inside a

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com. Back for a second day. He'll

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Speaker 1: be back for a third day tomorrow. We have no

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Speaker 1: show coming up Friday because the Instigators take over Friday's

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Speaker 1: Day one of the NHL Entry Draft, and the Instigators

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Speaker 1: will be live for five hours down in Dallas, Texas

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Speaker 1: around their way there this afternoon. So Steve Tasker's back

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Speaker 1: on Monday's Taskers on vacation. They still call it the

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Speaker 1: NHL Entry Draft, don't they. I think I believe they do. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Entry Draft. It's a big deal for the Sabers, Chris.

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Speaker 1: They have the number one overall pick. It's they've done

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Speaker 1: here on Friday, they're going to get a special player.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody by this point has heard about the

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Speaker 1: Swedish defenseman. Yeah, so let's hope he delivers. But all indications,

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Speaker 1: I mean, when Paul Hamilton's saying people are comparing him

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Speaker 1: So it is the quiet time in the NFL. Quiet

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Speaker 1: will make them that much better. Your thoughts. I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have trouble because there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: on his plate in terms of putting up points every week.

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Speaker 1: This was a defense that kind of fell on hard

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Speaker 1: times last year due in part to injury, but they

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Speaker 1: traded away their best cover corner, and last year with

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Speaker 1: Marcus Peters in the lineup, you know, they finished twenty

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Speaker 1: eight in total defense, they were twenty fifth against the run,

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Speaker 1: they were twenty ninth against the pass, and they were

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Speaker 1: let's see here fifteenth and points against. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know that they're going to be decidedly better on defense.

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Speaker 1: And in that AFC West Division where you have some

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Speaker 1: good quarterbacks, you know you got keenham car and Rivers. Now,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you arguably have the fourth best quarterback starting

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Speaker 1: for you in the division just by virtue of the

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Speaker 1: fact that Mahomes hasn't played. There's no track record, there's

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Speaker 1: no proven production, So there's gonna be a lot for

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Speaker 1: him that he's gonna have to do because I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of times the offense is gonna have to

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Speaker 1: pick up the defense this year for them. Right, So

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Speaker 1: that's Kansas City. Now who's left down this list? New

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks this year? Arizona? Well, yep, I want to talk.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Arizona. We don't know if it'll be

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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford or Josh Rosen. Either way, it's a new guy.

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Speaker 1: It's a new guy. Arizona. Last year, you know, disappointing

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Speaker 1: season for them. Will they get a whole lot better

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Speaker 1: with Sam Bradford? I don't know. You know, eight wins

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Speaker 1: last year. Are they gonna get to double digit wins

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Speaker 1: with the new quarterback? That's I think hard to envision.

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Speaker 1: I think that's another team that's a little ways off.

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Speaker 1: And you want to talk about playing in a tough division,

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Speaker 1: have fun with San fran the La Rams in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you, Murph, but I

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Speaker 1: see them. I see Arizona as a distant fourth in

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Speaker 1: comparison to those three teams. So if Bradford wins the

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Speaker 1: job week one, I don't know if he gets through

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Speaker 1: September without getting hurt, If he's got to play a

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Speaker 1: couple of division games early. I mean the pass Russian La,

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Speaker 1: the pass Russian Seattle, even San Fran has kind of

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Speaker 1: reloaded on defense to a certain extent. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they've just I think they've just got flat

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Speaker 1: out got a talent shortage there right now. I think

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Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes has got a big uphill battle in that

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Speaker 1: and so I don't know if it's gonna matter who

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Speaker 1: the heck you have a quarterback, because I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's enough to make up the difference in talent

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Speaker 1: alone from their team compared to the other three in

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Speaker 1: their division. I mean, you know, Tyrn Mathu is gone.

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Speaker 1: You signed a veteran a Antoine, But theet I mean,

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Speaker 1: I like Buddha Baker as a safety, Brandon Williams and

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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson. Okay, I can get behind that, but their

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Speaker 1: front seven, outside of Chandler Jones, it's pretty limited, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the defense is going to be

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Speaker 1: help that offense, which is getting a little long in

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Speaker 1: the tooth. Also, I mean not just Larry Fitzgerald, but

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Speaker 1: you look at their offensive line. Yes, they've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of veterans, but some of those guys are on

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Speaker 1: the wrong side of thirty outside of Dj Humphreys, their

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Speaker 1: left tackle. So I just think it's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough for Arizona to show marked improvement

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Speaker 1: in the wind column, let alone any other categories. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think I would have rolled the dice with Carson

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Speaker 1: Palmer one more year if he would have been willing

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Speaker 1: to play, because I think you're not gonna it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be hard to do better than him, whether it's Rosen

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Speaker 1: in his rookie year or Bradford trying to pick up

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Speaker 1: the pieces trying to figure out which team with a

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Speaker 1: new starting quarterback will be most improved the season we've

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Speaker 1: gone through most of them. A couple remain, the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns not hard to improve over and sixteen. I know

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Speaker 1: some folks on Twitter have already jumped on the Browns,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think they're gonna be a factor obviously

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Speaker 1: as a big win team. And I so if you

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Speaker 1: go for zero wins the four or five six wins,

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Speaker 1: is that romantic improvement? I guess on paper it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If the Cleveland fans it would be Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I would dismiss Cleveland. Do you

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Speaker 1: have the forty nine ers, They'll have a different quarterback

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Speaker 1: than they had an opening day last year in Garoppolo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we count that. I don't know what. Did he start

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Speaker 1: the last four games? Yeah? Five games and did not lose. Incidentally,

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Speaker 1: I think Garoppolo could not have asked for a better

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Speaker 1: situation in terms of who he's working with in the

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Speaker 1: form of a coach. I mean, Shanahan and McVeigh in

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Speaker 1: that NFC West division are two of the more progressive

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinators in the entire league, and so I think

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo is going to flourish there. And yeah, with a

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Speaker 1: full season, they should be decidedly better this year. Again,

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Speaker 1: playing in that tough division in the NFC West, it's

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be easy. Those teams are gonna beat

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Speaker 1: up on each other all year long. But I think

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Speaker 1: if Garoppolo continues on the track that he's on now,

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Speaker 1: there's a very good chance that the Niners are a

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Speaker 1: playoff team because of him alone. I think he can

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Speaker 1: be that good. Did you see that two minute drive

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Speaker 1: he had late last season, they had him miked up.

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Speaker 1: NFL films had had him miked up. This guy is

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Speaker 1: three steps ahead of everything, not one. Three. They're not

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Speaker 1: even on the field yet. The other team's got the ball.

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Speaker 1: There's like four minutes left, and he goes over to

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Speaker 1: we want to talk talking about two minute plays and

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Speaker 1: we want to go with Like he's already you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. He's he's like three steps ahead of

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Speaker 1: where the game is at and he's talking to the

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Speaker 1: OC about two or three plays that he likes, and

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Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, if we get in that situation, I

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Speaker 1: want to call that. So he's already formulating how the

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Speaker 1: last two minutes of the game are gonna go. And

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Speaker 1: sure enough they call that play. It's a big play

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Speaker 1: down into the red zone, and then they cap it

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Speaker 1: off with a win. He makes a play there and

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Speaker 1: just it's I was impressed. And then you know, I

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Speaker 1: watched a couple of games after that because they were

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Speaker 1: on a late game. I caught it after I finished

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Speaker 1: work on a Sunday, and I'm just sitting there going,

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Speaker 1: this guy's can't be good. He's gonna be really good.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just really really happy he's in San Francisco

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Speaker 1: and not New England. Five and oh he was to

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Speaker 1: end the season last year for San Francisco, So if

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Speaker 1: you if you count them, even though Garoppolo was on

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Speaker 1: the roster last years, he count them. And having a

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Speaker 1: new quarterback this year, that would be a legitimate team

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Speaker 1: to pick which team with a new starting quarterback most improved?

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Speaker 1: Do you have the Jets on your list? I mean

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Speaker 1: some of these teams as we went through yesterday, some

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Speaker 1: of these teams were not quite sure who's going to

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Speaker 1: be the starters. Could probably go either way. I would

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Speaker 1: think you got a sixty six percent chance that it's

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Speaker 1: somebody knew. That means it's not mccount, so it's Darnold

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Speaker 1: or Bridgewater, And Bridgewater has shown some positive signs, but

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Speaker 1: I think we have to remember he's only signed to

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Speaker 1: a one year contract. The long term plan is obviously Darnald,

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Speaker 1: So I think Bridgewater would have to grossly outperform Darnold

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Speaker 1: and McCown if he's going to be the first one

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Speaker 1: And I think that's also why we continue to hear

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Speaker 1: bargaining chip to maybe get more draft capital in the

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Speaker 1: future for a team that might still be looking for

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. If one of them that they have in

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Speaker 1: their own training camp falls on their face, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be McCown there right opening day. Would I get

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Speaker 1: that sense at least at the outset, But I don't.

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Speaker 1: If Darnald lights it up, it's gonna be Donald. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that's going to happen. You know,

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Speaker 1: he is one of the younger quarterbacks in this draft class.

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Speaker 1: He's only twenty one, so you know they might be

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Speaker 1: taking that with a grain of salt. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: still Darnald is still young in the game. I think

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Speaker 1: in high school started playing quarterback. He was a tight

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Speaker 1: end first and a couple other position might have even

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Speaker 1: been his junior year high school that he started playing quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So he's still young at the position. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: if he can master it, you know, more power to him.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I would tend to think unless

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Speaker 1: Donald completely lights it up, or that one of those

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Speaker 1: McCown that they go with at the outset, and then

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Speaker 1: the season goes. So did we miss any teams with

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Speaker 1: a new quarterback? We got Bills, Cleveland, Indie, Denver, Kansas City, Washington, Minnesota, Arizona,

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Speaker 1: maybe the Jets. I don't think we miss anybody else, right,

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Speaker 1: team of a new quarterback, No, we got them all,

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Speaker 1: depending on how you interpret Miami. No, Miami's no, it's well,

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Speaker 1: I mean Tannehill missed most of the year or missed

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Speaker 1: the whole season last year. Yeah, I guess it would be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to be any better anyway,

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Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I think Miami's got the

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Speaker 1: goode of the worst teams in football, like bottom three.

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Speaker 1: I think they have the potential to be that this year.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, we want to hear from you, which team

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Speaker 1: of the new starting quarterback will be the most improved

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Speaker 1: this year and one of the ones we mentioned. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you can make the argument for somebody else. You can

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Speaker 1: vote on our Twitter poll. We got a couple of

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Speaker 1: the NFL? Which team will benefit the most? That's what

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Speaker 1: last year opening day is going to be most improved? Now,

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Speaker 1: we talked during the break, Chris, you know, obviously the

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Speaker 1: start week one. You can cut it anyway you want.

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Speaker 1: There are no rules here. You can cut it anyway

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Speaker 1: you want. Let's know what you think, which team with

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Speaker 1: a new starting quarterback this year will be most improved?

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Speaker 1: The Bills qualify, obviously. You know. Cleveland Quality obviously got

645
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Speaker 1: a couple of tweets on this. Let's go to the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet. Dan tweets in a short one he says,

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Speaker 1: the Browns so much young talent there. Somebody tried to

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Speaker 1: tell me it wasn't you, Chris, And it wasn't. Definitely

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00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,959
Speaker 1: wasn't me. Somebody tried to tell me that the Browns

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Speaker 1: have a lot of talent and they could win eight

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Speaker 1: games this year. Does that seem likely to you? Does

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Speaker 1: that seem even possible at all? I kind of dismissed it.

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Speaker 1: You know, the talents there, they've had a ton of

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Speaker 1: first rounders, right, and they've they also loaded up a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, you know, you have Josh Gordon,

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Speaker 1: now you have Jarvis Landry, who's your possession guy, Corey

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Speaker 1: Coleman's back from injury. You know, I think if you

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Speaker 1: had a Carlos Hide. So you have legitimate weapons on

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Speaker 1: offense that go beyond Josh Gordon for the first time

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Speaker 1: in a long time, right, So there are tools to

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Speaker 1: work with on offense, where logic would say with those

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Speaker 1: tools you should be more productive. You need Tyrode to

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Speaker 1: pull the trigger obviously on that. And then defensively, you

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Speaker 1: got a pretty good group here. I mean the Jamie

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Speaker 1: Collins ad last year from New England, what kind of

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Speaker 1: went under the radar because they were such a poor team.

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Speaker 1: You know, they added to Marius Randall at safety from

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Speaker 1: Green Bay e. J. Gaines from Buffalo, who you know

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Speaker 1: isn't a world beater, but is more than serviceable, you know.

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Speaker 1: And now you've got Miles Garrett, Emmanuel Ogba. I think

671
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Speaker 1: Agbas underrated. You got Collins at linebackers, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I think there are pieces there. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: they necessarily have depth, good depth. Michael Kendricks just signed

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Speaker 1: there at linebacker with Cleveland, so you know, coming over

675
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Speaker 1: from Philly, there's talent there. The first rounders should be good.

676
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Speaker 1: Denzel Ward right, here's the thing, it's almost a case study.

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Speaker 1: You can, I would think you can. You might almost

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Speaker 1: be able to compare the way the Browns are building

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Speaker 1: their team and the Bills are building their team and

680
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: put them in opposition to each other. The Browns seemed

681
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Speaker 1: to build their team without any regard at all for

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Speaker 1: maybe long term, uh you know, stability, character players. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you go out and pay Jarvis Landry that kind

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Speaker 1: of money, you're saying something about where your priorities are.

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Speaker 1: Right when you bring back Josh Gordon, who's been really

686
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Speaker 1: nothing but a troublemaker for a couple of years now

687
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: in the league, you're saying something about where you put

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Speaker 1: character and where you put availability and consistent availability for

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Speaker 1: your team. Yeah, because where they're at is hell, we

690
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Speaker 1: just want to win some games, right, that's where they're at.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's the way I would want

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Speaker 1: my team to be built. No, it certainly isn't the

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Speaker 1: purest way to go. But I guess when you're one

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Speaker 1: in thirty one in your last two years, you'll do

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Speaker 1: just about anything to try to win some games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and their roster might be a reflection of that. On

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, which teams, which team with the new

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Speaker 1: sounding quarterback will be most improved? Robspid out tweets and

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Speaker 1: something that sounds exactly like you were saying, Chris, he's

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Speaker 1: got the bills, he said. When I read most improved,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about wins and losses. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: thirty first in passing and all the room in front

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Speaker 1: to go forward. I guess that's the argument, right, the

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Speaker 1: Bills will be improved in the passing game. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the Twitter poll is open to interpretation. We're not gonna,

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Speaker 1: you know, box people in to only answer a certain way.

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Speaker 1: He was looking at it in terms of improving the

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Speaker 1: passing game and thinks it could take a big jump.

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Speaker 1: I would tend to agree with Brian Dable at the controls.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback obviously is going to have a lot to

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Speaker 1: do with that, but thirty first is pretty bad. I

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Speaker 1: think you got a long way to look up and

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Speaker 1: improve from there. So I would hope they could finish

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Speaker 1: in that middle tier at the very least, you know,

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Speaker 1: somewhere between twelve and sixteen. If they can get their

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Speaker 1: passing games somewhere in there in the first year under Dable,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that would be pretty a pretty

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Speaker 1: good showing, knowing the newness that they're going to have

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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, along with this being the first

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Speaker 1: year in this offensive system. A couple of tweets that

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Speaker 1: kind of deal with the Bills Chris tweets in I

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Speaker 1: have no clue how people are picking the Bills. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be way worse before it gets better. I

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Speaker 1: don't agree with that. Way worse it might. They might

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Speaker 1: take a step back. They might not win nine this year.

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Speaker 1: They might win seven or eight, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's way worse. And I guess if you believe that

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Speaker 1: Tyrode and the thirty first ranked passing offense held them

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Speaker 1: back last year, then you could say it's going to

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Speaker 1: get better. So I see some people. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know about forty percent, but I can see how

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Speaker 1: some people might think the Bills will be vastly improved

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Speaker 1: with the new starting quarterback this year. I think if

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Speaker 1: there's one thing you can probably bank on, it's that

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Speaker 1: the defense will be better this year, more consistent, more

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Speaker 1: effective upfront. So those things should translate to better production

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Speaker 1: on defense. Defense holding them in games, more keeping points

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Speaker 1: off the board, you know, so there isn't as much

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Speaker 1: pressure on the offense to put up thirty. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe they only got to put up twenty one to win,

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Speaker 1: you know, not even twenty four, which usually twenty four

742
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Speaker 1: is around the average points per game four playoff teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Are they going to be able to

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00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: get to twenty four every week? I don't know. That

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Speaker 1: might be tough, especially looking at their schedule, know when

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Speaker 1: they have five road games in the first seven. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the defense is hopefully improved to

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Speaker 1: the point where it can hold the team in games,

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Speaker 1: and if the offense can just get a late drive together,

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00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: you know, they can pull out some victories. Alec Demski

751
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: tweets this in regard to the Bills being the most improved,

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Speaker 1: he said, can't say that we will have a more

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Speaker 1: improved quarterback. Excited to see your new talented quarterback, but

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Speaker 1: the online makes me scared for whomever is under center.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's hard to think the Bills

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Speaker 1: will be improved at quarterback. You know, I appreciate what

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Speaker 1: Tyrod did. I'd think I have a pretty good a

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00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: sense of what he did, how he played, and I

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Speaker 1: think there's a good chance of Bills could be improved

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Speaker 1: at quarterback. So improved overall, we'll see, but improved at quarterback. Everythink, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be improved. They're gonna have a better

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Speaker 1: passing attack this year than they had the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years. I believe that. I think the reason people

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Speaker 1: are worried, though, is the two most recognizable names on

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Speaker 1: the offense line are gone. Yeah. I mean there's no

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Speaker 1: question that Eric would and Richie Incognito were the two

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Speaker 1: most recognizable names upfront, and I think the average fan

768
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Speaker 1: would be hard pressed to name two of the other three.

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Speaker 1: So now there again, and we've talked about this before, Murph.

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Speaker 1: It's fear of the unknown, you know. They don't know

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Speaker 1: maybe how good Ryan Groy can be. They don't know

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Speaker 1: if John Miller can come in and be the guy

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Speaker 1: he was his first two seasons in Buffalo. They don't

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Speaker 1: know if Lad Ducas can be effective flipping from the

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Speaker 1: right to the left side, even though he played a

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Speaker 1: good portion of his first three years in the league

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Speaker 1: on the left side. So it's a lot of ifs,

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Speaker 1: I think for a lot of fans, and I think

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00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: that's why there is some concern that the offense might

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00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: not be able to move forward. Maybe less so because

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00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: of the quarterback and more so because of the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: It seems to be a genuine concern out there among

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00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: the fan base and bred deed and tweets, sheet and

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00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: kind of echoes. He said, offensive line will make or

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Speaker 1: break us go bills. A couple of tweets about the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, Jimmy tweets in that Tyrod Taylor guy might

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Speaker 1: do alright in Cleveland. Don't know if you're familiar, we are,

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00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: and Hugy Bear tweets and the Browns should have been

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Speaker 1: clearly on this list because of Tyrod Taylor. He will

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Speaker 1: make the Browns much better than ohen sixteen. Steve Noble tweets,

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Speaker 1: and I voted other Browns Because it depends on how

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Speaker 1: you find improved. I think most would use wins as

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Speaker 1: the measuring stick. And in that case, the Browns will

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Speaker 1: have the biggest jump in wins. Yeah, because they had zero, right,

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Speaker 1: so they get to four or five, they'll be improved.

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Speaker 1: Will a peace significant improvement. I mean, I guess we're

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Speaker 1: looking at I guess I'm looking at You can look

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Speaker 1: at it any way you want. I'm looking at who

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Speaker 1: makes his team appreciably better and makes them a force

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Speaker 1: or a factor maybe. And I think, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos to me, would be the team that they

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Speaker 1: have seven wins last year, get to ten or eleven wins,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they're either in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: or right on the edge of the playoffs. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: would say being out into the playoffs is a bigger

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Speaker 1: improvement than going from zero to five wins. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at. And wandering Jack he tweets this in

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Speaker 1: about the Broncos. He says Denver will come out swinging

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Speaker 1: this year. Simeon was not good last year. And it

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Speaker 1: showed in their record. Keen him with those weapons and

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Speaker 1: that defense will have them back in playoff contention. The

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Speaker 1: Bill's options at quarterbacks he goes on are largely unknown,

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Speaker 1: so smart money says there will be some growing pains there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's unreasonable. Yeah, I agree. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that it's Chris pointed out there. I don't think

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Speaker 1: the growing pains will have as much to do with

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Speaker 1: the quarterback as maybe some other aspects of the offense.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You mentioned offensive line. There's

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Speaker 1: not a whole lot of depth or proven talented receiver

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Speaker 1: quite yet. We'll see how that plays out in the summer.

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Speaker 1: So and this is gonna be a very multiple and

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Speaker 1: varied offense. So I think there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: to process too. And I don't know, despite the best

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Speaker 1: efforts of the coaching staff and the best efforts of

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Speaker 1: the players, because everybody's locked in and wants to have

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Speaker 1: this be a smooth running machine as soon as possible

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Speaker 1: because they know that's going to greatly impact their fate

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Speaker 1: in the win and lost column. So they're all dedicated

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Speaker 1: to getting this nailed down, buttoned up, ironed out however

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Speaker 1: you want to say it, But the fact remains that

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Speaker 1: history has shown us when new offenses come in the door,

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Speaker 1: that it does take a little bit of regular season

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Speaker 1: time before it's really moving and in a state where

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Speaker 1: the coordinator feels comfortable to maybe open up the playbook

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Speaker 1: a little bit wider than he did at the outset.

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Speaker 1: And you know that can compromise how effective you are

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Speaker 1: in gutting out some wins early. You know, if your

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Speaker 1: offense isn't running in a way that makes you efficient,

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Speaker 1: productive and capable of winning football. I want to hear

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Speaker 1: from you. We got phone lines open eight oh three

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Speaker 1: five fifty, or from outside Buffalo it's toll free. Call

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Speaker 1: at one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: which NFL team with a new starting quarterback will be

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Speaker 1: most improved. However you wanted to find it from last year.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call, or vote on our Twitter poll

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Speaker 1: or weigh in via Twitter. When we come back. I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to christ an article the post he

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Speaker 1: wrote for Buffalo bills dot com about Bill's third round

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Speaker 1: draft pick Harrison Phillips and his single, singular determination to

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Speaker 1: make it into the NFL. That's coming up when we

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Speaker 1: come back. John Murphy with Chris Brown One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy Chris Brown

854
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: co hosting with us today and tomorrow. As a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact, coming up later on the show next hour,

856
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: Matthew Coller, who covers the vikings for He's a Western

857
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: New Yorker covers the vikings for ESPN and Minneapolis, will

858
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: join us to talk about what the addition of Kirk

859
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: Cousins might mean to the Minnesota Vikings this year. And

860
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: that's part of our theme of the show. You know,

861
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: what do these new quarterbacks do? Teams that have a

862
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: different quarterback from last year, it will be most improved.

863
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: Tyler Palumbus, former NFL offensive lineman, joins us in the

864
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: two o'clock hour to let us know what Denver is

865
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: gonna do this year with case Keenum. In the meantime,

866
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: will here from you eight oh three fifty and toll

867
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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight fifty two five fifty. Chris Brown,

868
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: Bills insider Buffalo bills dot Com writes a lot of

869
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: good stuff. Chris I find this time of year when

870
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: it's quiet and you don't have the you know, the

871
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 1: week to week game pressure to you know, generate content.

872
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: You can kind of dive into some of the personalities

873
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: on this team, and you did it recently with third

874
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: round draft Harrison Phillips. Huh yeah, just trying to get

875
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: a sense of, you know, what makes him tick. I think,

876
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, the wrestling background obviously gave people a little

877
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: glimpse as to the kind of person he was. I

878
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: always try, you know, you hear these different stories about

879
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: these players because there have been feature stories on major

880
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: college football players before, and I try to always look

881
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: for a different avenue to take so as not to

882
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: repeat those kinds of narratives. And the thing that stuck

883
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: out with me was in talking to him. You know,

884
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: he pretty much laid out for me that his goal

885
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: as a twelve year old was to play in the NFL,

886
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: and his parents had only let him begin to play

887
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: football at age twelve, and his mom basically told me

888
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: when he put a helmet on, it was over. She

889
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: said that the anticipation build up for Harrison as an

890
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: eleven year old, like she said, he would talk to

891
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: her days upon days saying I can't wait to tackle somebody,

892
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: and there's an eleven to twelve, and you know you

893
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: get that exuberance from eleven and twelve year olds. But

894
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: after about a month of playing football, he printed out

895
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: three pages from his computer printer at home, with one

896
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: letter on each page. And those letters were N, F,

897
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: and L, and he taped into the ceiling above his bed, figuring, Ah,

898
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: that'll be the last thing I see before I go

899
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: to sleep at night and the first thing I see

900
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: when I wake up in the morning. Then he realizes,

901
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I don't spend as much time staring

902
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: at my ceiling because he's an active kid, So he

903
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: printed out three more letters, put him on the wall

904
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Speaker 1: next to his mirrors, so when he's combing his hair

905
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: every day, that's what he sees. Put the NFL shield

906
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: on his phone as a reminder every day as to

907
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: what his ultimate goal was. So when most kids are

908
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: trying to figure out middle school and getting a role

909
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: in the school play or making a modified team, this

910
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: guy's already onto his career and it never changed. Yea,

911
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: it never changed. You write about how in college he

912
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: sent an alarm on his phone not to wake up,

913
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: but when to go to bed. I've never heard of

914
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Speaker 1: anybody doing. He put an alarm on his phone for

915
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: ten thirty at night every day, and the alarm wasn't

916
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Speaker 1: like a sound or a sound effect, you know, all

917
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: the choices you get on your phone. It was an

918
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Speaker 1: FL that's what it said. The alarm just said NFL.

919
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: So he would say, when I was maybe at a

920
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: party and my alarm went off at ten thirty, I'd

921
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: see the NFL shield on my phone. I'd say, well,

922
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: I should probably get my rest. I'm gonna go home.

923
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: And you know, there were all of these reminders, he said,

924
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: Even when I was in high school and i'd pick

925
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: up my phone to see what time it was, I'd

926
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: see the NFL shield, and I'm saying to myself, well,

927
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: if I want to be a professional football player, maybe

928
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: right now I shouldn't be on my phone in class.

929
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: So it was these constant reminders, but just his thought

930
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: process was just so mature for a teenager. And talking

931
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: to his mom, she said, you know, I never had

932
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: to worry about him. You know, when teenage kids are

933
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: experimenting with drinking and other stuff. Never had to worry

934
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: about him doing that kind of thing, just because of

935
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: the way he was wired and so singularly focused on

936
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: his goal of playing in the NFL that every decision

937
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: he made from the age of twelve to now was

938
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: to be an NFL player. He said. Even his girlfriend

939
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: would get on him. She's like, can we get something else?

940
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: Maybe a photo of you and I as a screensaver

941
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: on your phone. And he's like, I think I'm gonna

942
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: have to get another device and just put us on that,

943
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: like an iPad or something. Because I asked him, I said, well,

944
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: what's next, what's the next thing you're gonna put on

945
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: your phone? Because you're in the NFL. Now. He was

946
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: a wrestler, and an accomplished wrestler, right, a state champion wrestler,

947
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: three time state champion. But and he wrestled before he

948
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: got hooked on the M before he played football. Yes, well, yeah,

949
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: and right. Because his parents were convinced that he was

950
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: so big that playing Pop Warner football, they weren't gonna

951
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: let him touch anybod because he could hurt. I mean,

952
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna crush somebody because he was unusually large for

953
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: his size. To give you an idea, they started him

954
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: in wrestling at three and four years old. And he

955
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: was so large, and it obviously goes by weight class

956
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: that he used to have to wrestle eight year olds

957
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: at age four. Just think about that for a second,

958
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: kid nursery school is wrestling a third grader because they're

959
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: the same size. Now, obviously he's got far less experience

960
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: in wrestling than those eight year old kids. He doesn't

961
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: know moves and takedowns and all of that stuff. He's

962
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: just out there feeling his way as a four year old.

963
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: Ye like the mental processing of a four year old.

964
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: And he would get trounced that first year in wrestling.

965
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: I think his mom told me he's record was two

966
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: and ten. She said every week we'd be going to

967
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: the next meet and he'd be saying, I'm gonna beat

968
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: him anyway. I'm gonna beat him anyway. And you know

969
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: who I heard as a baseball player, I think I

970
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: read it in Moneyball. Billy Bean came up in the

971
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 1: Mets organization with Lenny Deistra, and Billy Bean was far

972
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: more talented a player than Lenny Deistra. But Lenny Deistra's

973
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: brain was wired much like Harrison Phillips is, Like you

974
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: might have struck me out the last time. But I'm

975
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna hit you the next time that guy throws one

976
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 1: oh five, I don't care. I'll hit him anyway. That's

977
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: the kind of approach that Harrison Phillips had to wrestling, like,

978
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat the guy anyway. Well, he just beat

979
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: you last week. I mean he pinion three seconds. I'm

980
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: beating him anyway. There was no telling him different. When

981
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: did you talk to Harrison Phillips towards the end of

982
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: last week's mini camp or at the end like the

983
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: last week in OTAs? Okay, because we hit him on

984
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: the show before right during rookie Mini Camp. I think

985
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: and his attitude that you describe his background, his dedication

986
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: you do, his craft was very impressive, and I'd be

987
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: curious now with you know, four weeks of OTAs in

988
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: mini camp, what he thinks about the NFL. Did he

989
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: indicate Is it what he expected for a guy who

990
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: who waited so long to get here and thought about

991
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: nothing but the NFL for so many years. I wonder

992
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: if it matches his expectation level. Boy, I would hope

993
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: it does. It's been his dream for about the better

994
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: part of the last eleven years, so I would certainly

995
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: hope it is. And I gotta believe that because I

996
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: think what is gonna endear him to Bills fans is

997
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: he is exactly what Sean McDermott wants and his players.

998
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: He wants grinders. This guy loves the grind, loves it

999
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: like to a point where I mean he told me

1000
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: what his motto was, anything worth doing is worth overdoing. Yeah,

1001
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: that's his model article. So whether it's film study, he's like,

1002
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: film study's gonna help me. So instead of watching him

1003
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: one hour, I'm gonna watch it for three. You know,

1004
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: being in the training room and taking care of your

1005
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: body and getting good recovery, it's important. They're telling me

1006
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: to do it for one hour, I'm gonna do it

1007
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: for two. I said, Harrison, be careful with that in

1008
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: the ice tub man. Yeah, I don't know if you

1009
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: want to go now. We want to go two hours

1010
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah. So he's like, hey, whatever it takes.

1011
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, take it easy. Take it easy

1012
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: with that one. But it's clear that the way his

1013
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: brain functions, the way he is wired as a professional

1014
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: football player, now he's gonna have no problem with the

1015
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: way things are done around here because I really think

1016
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: that he and coach McDermott are very much cut from

1017
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: the same cloth. They're wired the same way, and he's

1018
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: gonna just blend right in right away, which is why

1019
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: I see him making an early impact for this team

1020
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: as a rotational defensive linement. It's Chris the story. It's

1021
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: up at Buffalo Bills dot com. The headline for Harrison

1022
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: Phillips the NFL was always his why A really good

1023
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: profile piece on Bill's a third round draft pick, Harrison

1024
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: Phillips the defensive linement. All right, A break care. When

1025
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: we come back, we'll continue our discussion. Which team that's

1026
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: has a new quarterback this year is going to benefit

1027
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: the most, who improves the most? Welcome to join us

1028
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: on the telephone line at eight oh three oh five

1029
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight

1030
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty Vikings Avenue Quarterback. We'll

1031
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: talk with Matthew Coller from ESPN Minnesota about that when

1032
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: we return. It is one hour down, two to go.

1033
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and this is

1034
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Buffalo Bills Radio Network Stories Update update

1035
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. A lot of hockey news these days.

1036
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: The NHL schedule. The full schedule schedule to be released

1037
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, but the Sabers have announced that their home

1038
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: opener is on the schedule Thursday, October fourth. They'll host

1039
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: the Boston Bruins downtown Buffalo. That is one hundred and

1040
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: six days away. Tonight, it's the NHL Awards Night in

1041
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Sabers Ryan O'Reilly is up for the Lady

1042
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: Being Memorial Trophy for the second time he has won

1043
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: at once. Jolbert Perol the only Saber to have won

1044
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 1: the Lady Being He did so back in night eighteen

1045
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: seventy three. Of course, the first round of the draft

1046
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: is set for this Friday, Savers with the first overall

1047
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: pick rest MS Donalin going to be their pick. The

1048
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: Instigators come to You from the NHL Draft in Dallas

1049
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: starting Tomorrow at ten am to twelve noon, and then

1050
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: Friday at full five hour show on the first day

1051
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: of the draft. The Instigator from the NHL Entry Draft

1052
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: tomorrow and again on Friday. Former Bills general manager Dug

1053
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: Whaley has been named the new director of college scouting

1054
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: for the NFL Players Association Collegiate Bowl. The Collegiate Bowl

1055
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: gives prospective players the best opportunity to showcase their talents.

1056
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: Nearly two hundred scouts from all NFL teams attend the

1057
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: annual All Star Game to watchlide practice. Waley brings twenty

1058
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: two years of NFL personnel experience to the game, including

1059
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: his stint as general manager with the Buffalo Bills from

1060
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: from two thirteen through two seventeen. Cleveland Brown signed former

1061
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: second overall pick Greg Robinson to a contract last night.

1062
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: That comes days after the league announced that offensive tackle

1063
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: Donald Stevenson's been suspended for the first two games of

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Speaker 1: the season for violating the sub sintibutist policy. Last year

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00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: with Detroit, Robinson struggled as the team allowed twenty three

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Speaker 1: sacks in total. World Cup soccer Christiano Ronaldo made European

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00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: soccer history scoring in Portugal's one Donati win over Morocco today.

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Speaker 1: That makes Morocco the first team to be eliminated from

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00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: the World Cup. The Ronaldo's header in the fourth minute

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Speaker 1: his fourth goal at this year's tournament. And that's the

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00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: update from One Bill Strive, John Murphy and Chris Brown. Chris,

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00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: you're keeping an eye on a game that's going on

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00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: right now in the World Cup. Right it's over Uruguay.

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Speaker 1: That was the game. The next games at two pm.

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00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: Oh okay, two o'clock. Um, you know we talked yesterday

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Speaker 1: about Serbia. I think I don't know if I'm gonna

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00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: go with Serbia is my team. I know that's what

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00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: wanted you to pick several times over I might add, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just can't get excited about that.

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00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: Every Litri goal is going to be your team. I

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Speaker 1: think it might be Portugal. What do you think? Yeah,

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00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: you probably need a guy with you, probably need a

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00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: headline guy. I'm a total casual fan. I a There's

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00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: a lot of talent on that team too, Luis Bernardo

1085
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: and a few other guys, so Fernandez. Yeah, they got

1086
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: a good squad, you know if they The key when

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00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: you get to the knockout stage is you want to

1088
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: be the first place team in your group because then

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00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: you draw a second place team from another group, you know,

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00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: when they build out the sixteen and you have a

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00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: greater chance of than getting to the quarterfinals. So if

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00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: you finish second in the group, which is still a

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00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: possibility for Portugal with just four points in Spain yet

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00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: to play. You know, you finished second. Now you got

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00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: to play a first team, first place team from another group,

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00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: and it's a stiffer challenge quite frankly, it just is.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see how they finish up. They got what

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00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: one more game to go so in the round robin play,

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00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: and it's looking good for them to advance though. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: that might be my team. I'll let you know. Hey,

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00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: our topic of the day, we're talking about teams that

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Speaker 1: have a new quarterback, a new starting quarterback from the

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00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: one they had a year ago. And most prominently in

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Speaker 1: this list maybe is the Minnesota Vikings with the big

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Speaker 1: move they made to get Kirk Cousins up to Minnesota

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Speaker 1: this year. Joining us on the Subway Fresh Take hotline,

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Speaker 1: Vikings Reporter for fifteen hundred ESPN in Minneapolis, ESPN Inside,

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00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: a contributor, former host and producer of our flagship Here

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00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, w g R Sports Radio five fifty. Happy

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00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: to have Matthew Connor on the line. Matthew, John Murphy

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00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 1: and Chris Brown here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us. Yeah,

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00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: sure thing. How are you guys? We're good. I think

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Speaker 1: you're a former producer of this show, or at least

1114
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: the original iteration of this show years ago, right, six five,

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00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: six years ago. I was the one who made sure

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Speaker 1: the show got on time, right on time, every single day.

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Speaker 1: Good thanks for doing that. Thank you for doing that.

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00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: Were it was important to us to be on time. Hey,

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Speaker 1: the Vikings. We're talking with the fans today about which

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Speaker 1: team is going to improve the most. Make the case

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00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: for me. It's hard to imagine the Vikings being much

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00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: better than a thirteen win team, even with Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. I mean, what will he bring to that? Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're you're right? And I think that it wasn't so

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Speaker 1: much that they wanted to move on from case Keenum

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Speaker 1: because of the way case Keenum played last year. It

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00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: was more that they believed that case Keenum couldn't repeat it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at by any metric, whether

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Speaker 1: it's quarterback rating or if you like the Pro Football

1130
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: Focus grade, I mean, everybody had Kase Keenum as one

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Speaker 1: of the maybe ten best quarterbacks in the league just

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00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: based on what he's produced. But if you watched every

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00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: single game, there's a lot of dropped interceptions. There were

1134
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: a lot of balls that floated that somehow Adam Feeland

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00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: or Savon Diggs had to make a spectacular play on

1136
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: and he got a lot of help from the number

1137
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: one defense in the NFL too, getting him the ball

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00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: back time after time. So I think what the Vikings

1139
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: look at is their schedule is going to be a

1140
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: lot harder this year. Everybody's gonna be gunning for him,

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00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: and I think what they wanted in signing Kirk Cousins

1142
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: was to ensure themselves that they could get play that

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00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: was somewhere around that ten to fifteenth best quarterback in

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00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: the league, as opposed to if they brought back Keenum.

1145
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: There was always that chance that there could be a

1146
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: meltdown or regression, and you know, you guys in Buffalo

1147
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: have seen that a few times here there throughout the years,

1148
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: with you know, maybe Trent Edwards comes on the scene

1149
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: and is great and then sort of fades off. And

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00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: I think that's what the Vikings were concerned about. And

1151
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: now they think that her Cousins is going to be

1152
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: able to repeat what he's done in the last three years,

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00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: which is no big deals are thrown for four thousand

1154
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: yards every single year. So do you think that you know,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about the weapons around him, and obviously

1156
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: there are several and actually there's an extra one that

1157
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: Keenham really didn't have for most of the the last year,

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Speaker 1: in the foreman Dalvin Cook coming back from acl surgery.

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Speaker 1: With all of that around him, it would almost seem

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00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: to be a case where there's more to work with

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00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: than he even had in Washington, especially last year. So

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00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: the question becomes how far can he take, you know,

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Speaker 1: his own production? I mean, can he get up over

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Speaker 1: forty five hundred yards? Can he throw thirty touchdowns? What

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Speaker 1: are the people in Minnesota anticipating in terms of expectations. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great question because I think when

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Speaker 1: you look at Washington's team in two sixteen, they had

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Speaker 1: a much better supporting cast for Cousins when they had

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Speaker 1: On Jackson and Pierre Garthton. They had actually a decent

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Speaker 1: running game by committee, had a really good offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and that was the year I think he was at

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Speaker 1: his best overall. And then last year you see when

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Speaker 1: you lose a couple of the wide receivers, the offensive

1174
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: line gets singed up. He got sacked more than any

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Speaker 1: other quarterback in the league. Last year. Well that I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that they expect more play closer to twenty

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Speaker 1: fifteen and two sixteen. I don't know if you put

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Speaker 1: numbers on at like forty five hundred yards, because, like

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Speaker 1: you said, Dalvin Cook is going to be I think

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Speaker 1: where this offense begins. I mean last year it was

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00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: only three and a half games, but for my sample

1182
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: size of seeing him in training camp, he came into

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00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: camp and they had two established veteran running backs and

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00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: he flew right by them to the number one about

1185
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: two weeks into camp and just was great ever since then.

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Speaker 1: So their expectation for him is that he's going to

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Speaker 1: be a superstar level player and one of the best

1188
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: running backs in the league that can carry the offense.

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Speaker 1: I think that they want to have a running game too,

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to the entire potential of the offense,

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00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: last year they were I think twelfth in points. That's

1192
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Speaker 1: probably the number they're looking at trying to improve the most.

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Speaker 1: Because when you look at the quarterbacks they're gonna have

1194
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: to face this year, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Carson Wentz

1195
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: is gonna be back. I mean, Jared Goff. I think

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Speaker 1: they've got a real murderers role of quarterbacks. So they

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Speaker 1: know they're gonna have to score a little bit more

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Speaker 1: than they did last year. Hey, if you um, well

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Speaker 1: the Vikings offense change much with Kirk Cousins. Well John

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Speaker 1: D Filippo, you know, put in things, take advantage of

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Speaker 1: his skill setting. I mean, he's got a better and

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Speaker 1: maybe stronger arm than case Keenum had a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Is that gonna be Is it gonna look different to

1204
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Speaker 1: that offense? Would you think? Yeah, he's definitely got a

1205
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: stronger arm and he's more accurate. But I think he

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00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: still wants to use a lot of the things that

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Speaker 1: Pat Schermer had success with. And what's great for John D.

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00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: Filippo is I mean it's got to feel like his

1209
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: birthday every day when he looks at some of the

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Speaker 1: supporting cast that he has here. I mean Sefon Diggs

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Speaker 1: and Adam Feeling. If they were the one receiver on

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00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: any team, I think they'd be hundred catch guys every year.

1213
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Speaker 1: But they kind of split the It reminds me a

1214
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Speaker 1: little bit of like Keena McCardell and Jimmy Smith back

1215
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Speaker 1: in the day when the Jaguars were good, because both

1216
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Speaker 1: of them were stars and they kind of split the catches.

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Speaker 1: So I think what he wants to do is use

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Speaker 1: those guys in a lot of different ways. Line them

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Speaker 1: up all over the field, use them in underneath passes

1220
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Speaker 1: where they can run after the catch and go deep.

1221
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Speaker 1: And one thing that he dropped in there, I don't

1222
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Speaker 1: know if know if he meant to do this in

1223
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Speaker 1: a press conference, was talking about using RPOs with Kirk Cousins,

1224
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Speaker 1: which he really didn't before, and the Vikings really didn't

1225
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Speaker 1: last year. But you saw with the Eagles how much

1226
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Speaker 1: success they had with it with Nick Foles. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think from zep Olippo standpoint, the way he described

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Speaker 1: it is, it's gonna be an offense that's built on

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Speaker 1: a lot of different other offenses, taking things that from

1230
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia the work, taking things from Pat Schrmer last year

1231
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Speaker 1: that worked, and other stops along the way. So I

1232
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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be I guess the football guys would

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Speaker 1: call it a multiple offense. John, And are we just

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Speaker 1: automatically kind of chalking up the NFC north to Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Detroit's kind of you know, first year new

1236
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: head coach, Chicago still building their team. Green Bay's got

1237
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: two rookie corners, they're still trying to fix their defense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is this just kind of like, let's get

1239
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: to the playoffs and figure it out from there because

1240
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Speaker 1: we're winning the division. Yeah, I mean, I think that

1241
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: the fans feel that way, like anything less than winning

1242
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: the division would be a disappointment. But if Aaron Rodgers

1243
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Speaker 1: play sixteen games, I'm with you that they're still rebuilding

1244
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: that defense, and you know they're gonna have rookie corners

1245
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: trying to guard Jakie Fling. But at the same time,

1246
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Speaker 1: I mean, Rodgers is one of the greatest quarterbacks ever

1247
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: and we've seen this from him year after year where

1248
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Speaker 1: Green Bay maybe doesn't have the best supporting tast and

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Speaker 1: he still finds a way to win eleven or twelve

1250
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: games just because he's that good. So there's definitely concerned there.

1251
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Speaker 1: And I don't think that the Vikings are going to

1252
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: be knocking him out of the game this year, like

1253
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: they kind of caught a good break last year with

1254
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Speaker 1: him going down for the season. Detroit, Yeah, I think

1255
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Speaker 1: with Detroit, they haven't made a ton of changes to

1256
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: their rosters, so I kind of expect that same old thing.

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Speaker 1: Chicago is the real interesting one for me, because you know,

1258
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Speaker 1: you'll look at what happened with the Rams, where we

1259
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: all kind of went, yeah, you know, whatever, the Rams

1260
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they're one of the

1261
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: best teams. They had that quick change with a new

1262
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: coach and a few signings. I think the Bears are

1263
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: trying to replicate that and bringing over a lot of

1264
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: the success that Andy Reid had with Matt Naggie there.

1265
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Speaker 1: And I think that's the team that maybe Vikings fands

1266
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: are a little nervous about, especially since every time they

1267
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: go to Soldier Field it seems like something weird or

1268
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: bad happened. So yeah, but I think that the expectation

1269
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: is certainly that they should win this division because they

1270
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: have the strongest top to bottom ross. Talking with Matthew Coner,

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01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: he covers the Minnesota Vikings. As we talk about Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins and the Vikings, Matthews with ESPN fifteen under the

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Speaker 1: ESPN in Minnesota. This is going to sound a little

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Speaker 1: off of while Matthew, but I wonder if Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: plays better now that he has a strong commitment from

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Speaker 1: a team. You know, he's been the playing under the

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Speaker 1: tag for a couple of years. Not a long term

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Speaker 1: commitment from the folks in Washington. Does he settle down

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Speaker 1: and hit a new level in his career? Do you

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Speaker 1: think now that he has that contract, that big contract,

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Speaker 1: three years and up to ninety million dollars fully guaranteed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a really interesting question, John, because I mean, when

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Speaker 1: you look at what he had in Washington, not only

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Speaker 1: is that organization not been very stable, and that's being

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Speaker 1: polite about it, but they never really did buy into

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Speaker 1: him no matter what he did there, you know, two

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Speaker 1: straight good years twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: give him the contract that he probably deserved. And he's

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Speaker 1: you know, he comes here, it's in Minnesota, a little

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Speaker 1: bit with a chip on his shoulder, and I think

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Speaker 1: he's been kind of clear about that that, you know,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't taken any shots really, but he also has

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Speaker 1: n't backed away from the fact that, you know, his

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Speaker 1: previous team wouldn't buy in it, and that's a motivating factor.

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Speaker 1: So I think that that that's certainly possible. And then

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Speaker 1: this franchise is one of the most stable in the league.

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Speaker 1: You've got a coach who's been here for four years

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Speaker 1: and averaged ten wins a year despite having all the

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Speaker 1: turmoil at the quarterback position. You know, you've got a

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Speaker 1: general manager who's been here a long time, very stable ownership,

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Speaker 1: that just built one hundred and twenty million dollars practice facility.

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Speaker 1: All those things I think will help Kirk Cousins. The

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Speaker 1: one thing, though, that he's going to have this year

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Speaker 1: that he's never had before is a team that's expected

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Speaker 1: to go to the super Bowl, and anything less than

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Speaker 1: an NFC championship, which they achieved last year, is going

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Speaker 1: to be a disappointment. I don't know that he's ever

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Speaker 1: faced anything quite like that. And when you get paid

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Speaker 1: like he did, there's a whole new level of pressure.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of like which one of these factors

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Speaker 1: is gonna win out. Is you're going to be more

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Speaker 1: stable and feel more comfortable and succeed, or is the

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Speaker 1: pressure gonna get to him at times if they struggle

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And then the last one from me,

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Speaker 1: Matthew is, you know, case Keenum's obviously in Denver now,

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Speaker 1: and he kind of inherits somewhat similar circumstances. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the running game should be better in Minnesota, but both

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Speaker 1: teams Denver in Minnesota are coming off years where their

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Speaker 1: defense both ranked in the top five. There are still

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Speaker 1: some weapons on offense in Denver, maybe not to the

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Speaker 1: degree that they are in Minnesota. You know, in the

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Speaker 1: AFC West, you've got a rookie quarterback in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: You've the first year head coach who hasn't been in

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Speaker 1: the league in twelve years. You know, when John Gruden

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Speaker 1: in Oakland, you can argue it's a two team race

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Speaker 1: in the AFC West, maybe at the outset. So what

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Speaker 1: do you think the possibilities are for Keenum out there? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching him and Teddy Bridgewater and Sam

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Speaker 1: Bradford really closely because I mean, this is a It

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Speaker 1: was such a monumental offseason to make this decision for

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Speaker 1: the Vikings which way to go, And I think all

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Speaker 1: three guys had certain risks that they decided her Cousins

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Speaker 1: was less risky than the other ones. But with Keenum,

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Speaker 1: I want to know if it was an aberration or

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Speaker 1: if he was really a good starting quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: league and nobody ever realized that because he never got

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Speaker 1: a chance. I mean, we've seen quarterbacks be that way before.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know, Jake Dolone was a

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Speaker 1: guy right who was not drafted or was a late

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Speaker 1: pick and then kind of bounced around and struggled, and

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Speaker 1: then he found a home in Carolina and went to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and had a really good career. I

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Speaker 1: would leave the door open because I think case Tenam

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01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: is such a smart quarterback. But I also think he's

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Speaker 1: got a little bit of that gamer to him that

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Speaker 1: there's a possibility he could continue to be good with

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Speaker 1: another very stable franchise and then a good defense to

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Speaker 1: support him. And that will be really interesting to assess

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Speaker 1: this almost on a daily basis as we go forward.

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Speaker 1: You know, Teddy Bridgewater has looked good in Ota, so

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Speaker 1: what's he gonna look like in Camp Or Sam Bradford's

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Speaker 1: going to have the job in Arizona and they play

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Speaker 1: a couple of these teams, you know, so this is

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Speaker 1: it will be one of the kind of underlying storylines

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Speaker 1: of the whole year how those guys perform. Matthew Week

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01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: three bills at Minnesota and just announced the other day

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Speaker 1: the Vikings will honor on the Ring of Honor Dennis

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Speaker 1: Green right halftime in that game. What do you think

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Speaker 1: that'll be like? What kind of atmosphere might that present

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Speaker 1: to those good fans up there in Minnesota. I mean

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Speaker 1: last year when Randy Moss was put in the Ring

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Speaker 1: of Honor, it was such a such a special night

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Speaker 1: for everybody. And I got a chance to be at

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Speaker 1: a press conference with Randy Moss where he talked about

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Speaker 1: Denny Green and what he meant to Randy's career, And

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Speaker 1: I think that that's what his ultimately his legacy will be,

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Speaker 1: is he's the guy that was responsible for drafting Randy Moss.

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Speaker 1: But when you look through his career, he was winning

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Speaker 1: games with rich Gannon before he was good, and Sean

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Speaker 1: Salisberry and some great defenses, but then you know, transition

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Speaker 1: to great offenses when Randy showed up and they had

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Speaker 1: that fifteen in one year. I mean, I think with

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Speaker 1: Green that there was always a bit of a contentious

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Speaker 1: relationship here, but now that we're separated from it and

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Speaker 1: they're going to honor him like this, I think when

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Speaker 1: you look back at his career, he's in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: eight out of ten years. It was a pretty amazing

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Speaker 1: run for him as a head coach, and just the

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Speaker 1: way things happen here, I've discovered you know, with the

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Speaker 1: new stadium they have and hosting Super Bowl last year,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like Minnesota knows how to do

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Speaker 1: an event. So I think that for everybody involved, that'll

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Speaker 1: be a really special night. Should be. Yeah, we'll be there. Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks very much, Matthew. Good to hear from you. Thanks

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Speaker 1: very much for joining us today. All right, thanks guys,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the invite. Matthew Conner Vikings were order for fifteen

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Speaker 1: hundred ESPN in Minnesota, ESPN contributor, ESPN Insider, and former

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Speaker 1: host and producer at w g R Sports Radio five

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Speaker 1: fifty year in Buffalo, Matthew joined us on the Subway

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Speaker 1: Fresh Tank Huntline, Subway Eat Fresh strikes Me. Chris said

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Speaker 1: Dennis Green was underrated, maybe still as underrated for the

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Speaker 1: type of coach he was. He was sort of a

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Speaker 1: I don't know, a signature coach in the league during

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Speaker 1: his tenure ranked the nineties and the early two thousands.

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Speaker 1: I think he was always considered to be about one

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Speaker 1: of the better ones. Doesn't have a Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: his resume, but a really good coach. It was successful

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Speaker 1: almost everywhey way. I'd put him in the Hall of

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Speaker 1: very good. Yeah, That's what I would do. He was

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Speaker 1: a very good head coach, consistent winner, just you know,

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Speaker 1: couldn't get over the hump to win the big the

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Speaker 1: big prize, you know, so I and off of that

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01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh coaching tree, right, wasn't he I believe? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well he wasn't Northwestern for a while right before the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'll have to check on that. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say he was part of that. I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 1: look him up. Now, mat you describes the addition of Cousins,

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Speaker 1: it's almost to Minnesota. Look, they needed more than anything,

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Speaker 1: it seems, a quarterback stability, right after suffering through the

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Speaker 1: injuries with Bradford and then Bridgewater. You know, you have

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Speaker 1: to believe a couple of years ago they thought Teddy

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater was going to be their guy for a long

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Speaker 1: time and that was upended by his knee injury. And yes,

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Speaker 1: they paid a fortune to get Kirk Cousins, the most

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Speaker 1: highly sought after a quarterback in the free agent market

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Speaker 1: this year. But more than anything, it seems like the

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Speaker 1: Vikings just wanted stability, Chris. They just wanted to know

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Speaker 1: this is our guy. Now, let's move forward and let's

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Speaker 1: contend for Super Bowls? Don't you think it sounds like

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Speaker 1: that for them? Yeah, they said, look, we're in a

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Speaker 1: position where we can go for it. The window is

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Speaker 1: probably not going to be very large. We have a

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Speaker 1: chance to upgrade a quarterback and what our estimation will

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Speaker 1: be a guy that can get us over the hump.

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Speaker 1: Let's not care what it costs. Let's just go ahead

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Speaker 1: and do it. And I think that's where they are.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Denny Green did coach Underpill Walls

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Speaker 1: receivers coach in Sanford from eighty six to eighty eight,

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Speaker 1: short time there, and then became the Stanford head coach.

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Speaker 1: So so there you are. But yes, sad Northwestern before

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01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: that eighty one to eighty five. He just passed away

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago at age sixty seven. He

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Speaker 1: always seemed younger than that, didn't he He acted younger. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was a fiery Yeah, he was a fiery guy.

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01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean everybody remember you know now nowadays where you

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Speaker 1: know YouTube clips of the thing, everybody remembers, you know,

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Speaker 1: you want to crown their rear end, crown them. He

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01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: didn't use rear end to use something else. We let

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Speaker 1: him off the hook. And all of that, that whole

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Speaker 1: postgame press conference. But he had when he was in

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01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 1: Arizona at that point a couple of years, coming after

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01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 1: a Monday night game or a Sunday night game, day night.

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01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 1: I remember watching it. We had let's let's play it,

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01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: Denny Green's eruption after that terrible Monday night loss. The

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01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: Bears are what we thought they were. What we thought

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01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: they were. We played them in preseason. Who the hell

1447
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 1: takes the third game in a preseason like us both

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01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: we played him in the third game. Everybody played three

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01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: quarters the Bears or who we thought they were. That's

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01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: why we took the damn field. Now, if you want

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01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: to crown them, they crown her ass. But they are

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01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: who we thought they were, and we led him on

1453
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: the hal It's classic. He should be known for a

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01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: lot more than that. But as you said, nowadays, that

1455
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: does it for most people. But a good coach, good record,

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01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: what did we say, one hundred and one wins in

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy games at Minnesota. The best part

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Speaker 1: about that clip doesn't We don't have it, but the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals media relations director, my buddy Mark Dalton followed up

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01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: Dennis Green walked up behind him. Green walked off the

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Speaker 1: podium runner for that, and Mark Dalton pretty much said, okay,

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Speaker 1: any other questions as if nothing happened, Yeah, funny, what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do? There was a lot more to

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Speaker 1: Danny Green than that, though there was. It's good that

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Speaker 1: he and he went to the mat for Randy Moss,

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01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: who you know, at a time when you know, having

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01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: a history of mary want to smoke and was pretty

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01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: much a death knell for your draft. Stock said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, and that wasn't all that Randy Moss had

1470
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Speaker 1: on his record. He had a dismissed domestic violent situation

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Speaker 1: and a whole host of other issues from his time

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Speaker 1: in college. And you know, Denny Green vetted him himself

1473
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: and he went to the mat for him because that

1474
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: back in ninety seven, ninety eight, that was that was

1475
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: a big deal, because those kinds of players would just

1476
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: get pushed down the board. There's no chance of them

1477
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: being a first round pick. And you know, he went

1478
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: to the mat for that guy. And I think that's

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01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 1: why Randy Moss will eternally be grateful for Denny Green

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01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: for doing that for him, giving him an opportunity. Talking

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Speaker 1: about the Vikings, because we're talking about which NFL team

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Speaker 1: with a new opening day starter at quarterback will be

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Speaker 1: most improved from last year. That's our Twitter poll. It's

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Speaker 1: up on Twitter, been up there for over an hour,

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Speaker 1: about seventy hundred votes in so far. Forty percent of

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Speaker 1: you responding on Twitter say the Bills. Yes, they'll have

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Speaker 1: a new opening day starter, and you think the Bills

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01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: will be most improved from last year. I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: Thirty two percent say the Denver Broncos. That's where I

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01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: would vote, fifteen percent say Washington, thirteen percent have somebody

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Speaker 1: else in mind? Give us a call. Let's discuss eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty and toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Which team with

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Speaker 1: a new opening day starter? There are a lot of them,

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01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: The Bills, Cleveland, Indie, Denver, Kansas City, Washington, Minnesota, Arizona,

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Speaker 1: maybe the Jets, maybe the Niners. Count in your mind,

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01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: which of those teams with a new starter at quarterback

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Speaker 1: this year will be most improved? The lines are open

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Speaker 1: at eight oh three oh five fifty and toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty. We

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Speaker 1: have some tweets to read, and we'll do that when

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01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: we return. Chris Brown is yere until three o'clock. John

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01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: Murphy with him One Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health.

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Speaker 1: We're coming here from One Bill's Drive and this is

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01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live. I'm

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01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Chris Brown is here, Steve Tasker is on vacation.

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01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: Steve will be back next Monday. Our show'll be back

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01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: tomorrow Chris and I Steve will be handling the show

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01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 1: by himself next. It's a mess, folks, The show's a mess.

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01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you agree? Brownie? You're gonna be here a lot

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01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: over the next week or two. What the hell is

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01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: that saying about me? No, it's just there's no look,

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01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: I got not you. No the schedule. I've got a

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01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: sheet of paper on my desk in the other room.

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: It's a jumble with the schedule. Yeah, that's what I mean.

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01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: That's the mess, trying to figure out who's who's coming

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01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 1: in today, who's coming in tomorrow? What are we doing?

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01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: But we'll get through it. And there's hockey coming up

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01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: this week. That's the NHL Entry Draft and the Instigators

1520
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: are going to be in Dallas. We're talking football. We'd

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01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: love to talk with you. The phone line's open eight

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Speaker 1: oh three five fifty and toll free one eight eight

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01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. All these teams eight

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01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: or more with the quarterback switch this year? Which one

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01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: is gonna have the most improvement from last year? From

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01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet Brian Cook? Little words of encouragement from

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01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: Brian Cook. He says, good, Paul today, we don't normally

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01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: good with all caps. Yeah, we don't normally get the

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01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: Usually people say, what kind of a poll is this?

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01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 1: Brian Cook says, good poll today. I'm torn, but we'll

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01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: say Bills, our record will not improve as much as

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01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: the Broncos, but McCarron will be able to keep defenses

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01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: much more honest than Tyrod, opening up more room for

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01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: shady Okay, boy, I could see something like that happening. Yeah,

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01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: we're asking a lot there, though. Don't you think McCarron

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01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 1: keeping defenses more honest than Tyrode? Is that the part

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01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,879
Speaker 1: that's asking why? Yeah? Well, I think the whole approach

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01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: on offense I think will keep defenses more honest. I

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01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: think they're determined to have a better passing game with

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01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: McCarron or Johns or maybe Nathan. They're determined to have

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01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: a more effective passing game, which will, in fact, I think,

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01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 1: opening open up more room for gonna have to beat.

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01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to beat people consistently with the passing

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01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: game before they start taking that eighth man out of

1545
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 1: the box, because they know that McCoy's the engine for

1546
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: this offense again this year, and they're gonna have to

1547
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: make plays enough of the time to convey teams to

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01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: get out of what they're in to stop Shady. So

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01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: hopefully yes they can do that. Give us a call

1550
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: and let us know what you think which team with

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01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: a new starting quarterback will be most improved. A couple

1552
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: of tweets from Dana. First one vikings Dana says did

1553
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: well with a poor quarterback last year. Having more talent

1554
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 1: at the position means that potential Super Bowl appearance. Goes

1555
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 1: on to say, did not see them in the Super Bowl,

1556
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: and Minnesota wanted nothing to do with having him back.

1557
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 1: Talking about Keenan, I guess guests they want a championship,

1558
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: where some teams Buffalo only want a playoff appearance and

1559
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: some Cleveland just want to win. Well, yeah, the Bills

1560
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: want a playoff appearance, but there are different motives. Yeah,

1561
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: that's how you get to the super Bowl, getting the playoffs.

1562
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that is your goal. But thank you

1563
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: Dana and dan Vie with this tweet. Everyone is so

1564
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: quick to point out Tyrod's touchdown to interception ratio. They

1565
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 1: conveniently ignore that our passing attack was dead, lasting three

1566
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: and outs last year because he refused to throw the ball.

1567
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,879
Speaker 1: The passing attack has nowhere to go but up at quarterback,

1568
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 1: where but the team's record will be worse. Do you

1569
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: know who finished thirty second in passing last year behind

1570
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: the Bills? Who? Chicago? Really? Now, they had a lot

1571
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: of injuries at wide receiver. They also had a rookie quarterback,

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01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, so they were kind of navigating their way

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01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: through some issues. And their defense was decent, you know,

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01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 1: top ten, ninth and points allowed, but it was tough

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01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: for them last year. Yeah. Their running games suffered also.

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01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: I think they lost Jordan Howard for a while, so

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01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: it became a one dimensional attack, and with a rookie

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01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 1: quarterback having the entire offensive burden thrust on him, I

1579
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: think was a little much for Drubisky sometimes, Chris, I

1580
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: feel like that, Look, we know, we all acknowledge. I

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01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 1: do the Bills passing offense has been substandard for a

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01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: couple of years now, But I don't know that if that,

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01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: the numbers tell the whole story, you know, and you

1584
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: can look at three and outs last year, you can

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01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: look at passer rating last year and offensive you know,

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01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: yardage gained in the passing game. That's all adds to

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01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 1: the picture. But to me, the biggest issue was the

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01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: missed opportunities, which really cannot be quantified anywhere. And when

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01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: I say missed opportunities, I think of times when Tyrod

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01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: would have opened receivers downfield and wait too long or

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01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: not pull the trigger at all. He was late. I

1592
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: think he was late. And more so than being inaccurate,

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01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: I think Tyrod was late, didn't see it, or didn't

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01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: feel comfortable, comfortable enough to pull the trigger. I mean, yeah,

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01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: he never would force the ball into coverage and he

1596
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: would wait, wait, wait, and all of a sudden the

1597
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: window was closed. I don't think that's measurable. And yes,

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01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: I know the thirty first passing attack is awful. Ted

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01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: lasting three and outs, that's terrible. All of that is

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01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: adds to the picture, but it's almost to me the

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01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: real measure of the Bill's ineffective passing attack I got

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01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 1: from observation from what I saw, And did it hold

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01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: him back? Sure it did, Sure it did. Let's just

1604
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 1: look at the playoff game. Yeah, you know, yeah, the

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01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: playoff game alone kind of spelled it out to me

1606
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 1: if you weren't convinced before the playoff game set at all.

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01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: I mean, Blake Bortles ran for more yards than Tyrod

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01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: through and you look at how other teams were able

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01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: to put up points on that Jacksonville defense in the

1610
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 1: subsequent weeks. Granted, it's Pittsburgh and it's New England and

1611
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: those are accomplished offensive teams with top ten quarterbacks, so

1612
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: that certainly helps. But the struggle that it was in

1613
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: a game where Lashawn McCoy was pretty effective and clearly

1614
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 1: the offensive player of the game, maybe the offense, maybe

1615
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 1: the player of the game for the Bills, with all

1616
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: that he did in that game, there was no support,

1617
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: where complimentary help with the passing game. And it's unfortunate

1618
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: because you know, McCoy put together a performance that most

1619
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: would say was good enough to win it It kind

1620
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: of reminded me a little bit of Thurman's performance in

1621
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty five, just he was doing everything and

1622
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: everything else seemed to be somewhat of a struggle because

1623
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: the other defense was so good. And if you weren't

1624
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 1: convinced prior to that, I think you were after that

1625
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 1: game that the passing game just flat out has to

1626
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: be better, has to be better if you're going to

1627
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: take a step forward, and you may take a step

1628
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: back with your passing game knowing you're going to have

1629
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: a new offense, new coordinator and a new quarterback, but

1630
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: in the long run, you should come out ahead and

1631
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: be better. Should And you know what's part of the

1632
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: passing game which I think is underestimated sometimes, and it's

1633
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: pass protection. And in the playoff game, I thought they

1634
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: had a terrible time with you know, Klais Campbell and

1635
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,879
Speaker 1: Jannikin Gockway and the pass rush of the Jacksonville Jaguards,

1636
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: a really good defense by the way, Yeah Jackville was

1637
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: a really good defense, but it was it wasn't all Tyrode.

1638
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 1: I think pass protection was an issue in that game.

1639
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 1: The Bill's lack of viable receivers outside was a bit

1640
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: of an issue as well. It was mostly Tyrode. They're

1641
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 1: certainly warranted in changing up quarterbacks because of Tyrode's three

1642
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: year performance, not just his performance in the playoff game

1643
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville. But it wasn't just him. There was other

1644
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: stuff going on too. It was the approach they took

1645
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: in the passing game too. You know, yeah, it was

1646
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: that's fair. That's a fair assessment. I wouldn't disagree with that,

1647
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: But that was a season long problem that really came

1648
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: to a head, I think in an important playoff game

1649
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: against a very very strong defense, very strong defense, and

1650
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: the shame of it was you had a defense that

1651
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: was holding in the game. Yeah, because you even though

1652
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles ran for some good yardage there, they held

1653
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: them down for the better part of that game before

1654
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 1: that second half touchdown. I'm kind of wondering, Murph, if

1655
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: we should flip this around with all these new quarterbacks

1656
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: coming in, who might take a step back. I'm wondering

1657
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 1: if it's Kansas City or Washington. Some and they've done

1658
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: it on Twitter already have said the Bills, yeah right,

1659
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 1: letting Tyrode go and plugging in something in Kansas City's

1660
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 1: a canadidate to take a step back just because it

1661
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,839
Speaker 1: is a young quarterback, second year guy. I think Washington

1662
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: could take a step back because I think Alex Smith

1663
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: might not turn the ball over, but the talent level

1664
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: is he's surrounded by less talent there than he was

1665
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, and so I think there's going to

1666
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: be more pressure on him to do more, make more plays,

1667
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 1: and I think his turnover rate may go up as

1668
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: a result. And I think Arizona might have to take

1669
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: a step back to first year head coach. A lot

1670
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 1: of new stuff coming in, not a ton of weapons

1671
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: outside of Larry Fitzgerald. That might be a tough one.

1672
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: That's an interesting way to look at him. Which team

1673
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: with a new stounding quarterback will be um will be worse? Right?

1674
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: Might take a step back? Take a step back, and

1675
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,759
Speaker 1: you point to the three, I'm looking at the others.

1676
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: Anything can happen, but it's hard to argue anybody but those,

1677
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: uh what three that you mentioned then KC Arizona and

1678
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: Washington Arizona too, by virtue who's in their division. I mean,

1679
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: you've got three other teams on the other way, and

1680
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 1: you're trying to rebuild your thing with a new head

1681
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 1: coach and a lot of moving parts on both sides

1682
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: of the ball for them. I think that might be

1683
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: it might be a tough year for Arizona. Some will

1684
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 1: argue Buffalo Chris based on you know, Tyrod Taylor and

1685
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: the fact that they won nine Some I wouldn't. I

1686
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,919
Speaker 1: think they're gonna take a step forward in the passing game, especially,

1687
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: but some would argue that the Bills might take a

1688
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: step back. And you're right, and a couple of people

1689
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: and probably you could argue some of the same reasons

1690
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: that we just pointed out with those other teams. Yeah,

1691
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 1: and a couple of people have already tweeted in maybe

1692
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: you know, improved passing the tack for Buffalo and fewer wins.

1693
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: That's that's realistic. I think you don't want to think

1694
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: of it that way, but that is realistic. While you're

1695
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: you know, you're playing the AFC South, there's at least

1696
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: two good defenses in there that you're gonna have to

1697
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: face in Houston and Jacksonville. You know who else you

1698
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: got NFC North, You got to play that Minnesota defense.

1699
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: That's not going to be fun. Chicago's defense was very

1700
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: quietly a top ten unit last year. So even the

1701
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 1: defenses you're playing out of division and out of conference

1702
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: are going to be difficult, and some of those are

1703
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 1: on the road. So the schedule, combined with a whole

1704
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: host of other factors, is not going to make it easy.

1705
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: I'll say that. Give us a call. What do you

1706
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,600
Speaker 1: think which team with a new starting quarterback will be

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01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: most improved or may take a step back. We'll entertain

1708
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 1: that a couple of more tweets on this coming in

1709
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: Craig tweets, and the Browns will be most improved because

1710
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: if they win two games, they doubled their win total.

1711
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: Actually that's more than double what they won last year.

1712
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: Debbie lytton tweets and Browns definitely can't go anywhere with

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01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: up and Buffalo wing where tweets in. I think Cleveland

1714
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: with Tyrode will be most improved. Anyone can get better

1715
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: than oh sixteen. I think Cleveland will have at least

1716
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: five or six wins with him. Sounds about right for Cleveland.

1717
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: Let's don't you think which team with a starting quarterback

1718
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: change this year will be most improved or maybe which

1719
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: team takes a step back? Give us a call. Eight

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01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: oh three, oh five fifty and toll free one eight

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01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: eight five two five fifty. He got lines open. The

1722
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: Twitter poll is still up and running. Chris Monday, Part

1723
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: two of The Buffalo Bill's Top Ten series, Top ten

1724
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: free Agent signings in Bill's History. Did you catch it?

1725
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: Did you watch it? I did see most of it. Yes,

1726
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: it's always on the reck. They like reracking it. Sure.

1727
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 1: You and I kind of set that up with our

1728
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 1: thoughts on different questions about the Bill's all time free

1729
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: agent moves and moving in our round table, a little

1730
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: round table on the website. When we come back, I

1731
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: want to go over some of that with you. I

1732
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: know you talked with Thurman about some of those issues,

1733
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 1: but you and I haven't talked about that yet. Will's History,

1734
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: Bill's History free Agents. We're gonna be back and talk

1735
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: about that when we return. One Bill's Live, presented by

1736
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: a Lot of Health. We're coming here from One Bill's

1737
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 1: Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Joe Goes still

1738
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: three o'clock today. Coming up in the two o'clock hour,

1739
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the Denver Broncos switch at quarterback

1740
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,919
Speaker 1: case Keenum takes over. There are they in line for improvement.

1741
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that with Tyler Palumbus. Tyler is a

1742
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: former NFL offensive lineman, and Tyler has spent some time

1743
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: on the sidelines as the sideline reporter during Denver Bronco's

1744
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: play by play. We'll talk with him coming up at

1745
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: two o'clock. Chris and I here to talk about that

1746
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: issue with you. The phone lines open eight oh three

1747
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: oh five fifty outside Buffalo, toll free at one eight

1748
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty Chris, Monday, two

1749
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: days ago. The Bill's Top Ten series continued on tv

1750
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: MSG network with Part two this year. Part one was

1751
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: the Top ten Trades in Bill's History. Part two Top

1752
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 1: ten free Agent Signings Enfranchise History. You and I offered

1753
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 1: some opinions on this at Bill's round Table piece that

1754
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: went up on the website on Monday, and I want

1755
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 1: to talk to you about some of this. They were

1756
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: good questions, I think, put together by our buddy Chris Jenkins.

1757
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 1: Most underrated free agent signing in team history had forced

1758
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: me to think a little bit, and you and I

1759
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: sort of landed on the same guy in a different way.

1760
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:04,959
Speaker 1: Tell me about your most underrated You named Ted Washington

1761
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: as the most underrated signing in free history, in free

1762
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: agent history, because when he when he signed, it wasn't

1763
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: a giant kind of deal. He had kind of become

1764
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 1: a forgotten player. He was a first round pick of

1765
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 1: the Niners, right, and then went over to Denver, had

1766
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,719
Speaker 1: a year there, got Hurt wasn't on the field, and

1767
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: Wade was the defensive coordinator here. He had been named

1768
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator already obviously had some familiarity with Ted and

1769
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 1: basically told John Butler, were to go get this guy

1770
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: and help our run defense at the nose tackle position. So,

1771
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, signing him kind of went over like a

1772
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 1: lead balloon. Nobody really knew much about him because he

1773
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: hadn't been on the field and he comes in here

1774
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 1: and he just flat out dominates. I mean, people could

1775
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: not move that dude. So um, it's just it's amazing.

1776
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 1: And Thurman was in here with me on Monday because

1777
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: we were promoting the show which was debuting on Monday,

1778
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: and Thurman could recall a time where his first year

1779
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, It's halftime of a game and Cornelius Bennett

1780
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: calls out Ted at halftime and says, those linemen are

1781
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: killing me and Cornelius held up his arms over his

1782
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 1: head to show the underside of his biceps, and they

1783
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 1: were all bruised up from like helmets and pads from

1784
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: guards who were getting on him at the second level

1785
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: and taking him completely out of the game. And Steve said,

1786
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 1: all Ted did was stand up and say, my bad,

1787
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:42,560
Speaker 1: I got you in the second half. And Steve said,

1788
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: Thurman said, or yeah, Thurman said this, sorry. Thurman said,

1789
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: Nobody touched Cornelius the rest of the game, and he

1790
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: had fourteen tackles in the second half because Ted just said,

1791
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: all right, time to go, let's get to work, and

1792
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: he just tied up two guys the rest of the game.

1793
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: But I think the thing that was underrated about Ted was, yeah,

1794
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: he was probably three six, three seventy five, but he

1795
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 1: would make plays in the backfield. Yeah, I mean behind

1796
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. He'd get running backs, he'd split

1797
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 1: the double team. I mean, I'm not saying he got

1798
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: narrow to go make a play, he just flat out one.

1799
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: And he'd have four or five sacks every year. So

1800
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: for me him coming in the door to what he

1801
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: was for the team, I think he went to a

1802
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: couple of pro Bowls in his five or six seasons here,

1803
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: he was just so dominant. Yep. I had him his

1804
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: mind most underrated as well, ninety five but six years here,

1805
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:33,759
Speaker 1: three Pro Bowls, big year in ninety six Bowls okay, yeah,

1806
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: one hundred thirty tackles in ninety six and one twenty

1807
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: four the following season from a nose tackle. So he

1808
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 1: was taking up space, he was taking up blockers, and

1809
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: as you pointed out, he was making plays. We've had

1810
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 1: people on this show over the years talking about how

1811
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: Ted Washington deserves consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1812
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: But I think nose tackles typically are going to be underrated.

1813
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 1: Interior defensive lineman for the most part will be and

1814
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: he certainly was. And he was underrated yea. And look,

1815
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: they knew they were getting a good player. He was

1816
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 1: a guy that Wade Phillips really wanted. Wade talks about

1817
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: it in the show in the top ten for age

1818
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 1: in Bill's History, and it turned out well underrated. I

1819
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 1: had one mentioned though of this in my response, Chris

1820
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: Doug Flutie nineteen ninety eight. Now they got two quarterbacks

1821
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 1: that here, right, Flutie and Rob Johnson traded for Rob. Right,

1822
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: Rob was the one that most people and I'm talking

1823
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: about underrated at the time of the acquisition. At the time,

1824
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: it was well, Rob was the big acquisition. Flute was

1825
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: coming from Canada. That was a whole hum. Yeah, it

1826
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: was kind of like, well, I know that name on

1827
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: the backtail end of his career here thirty three years. Yeah,

1828
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 1: I think it was okay, maybe he'll be a backup.

1829
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 1: And as we all we know how it turned out,

1830
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,719
Speaker 1: Flute became a starter, beat out Rob Johnson in an epic,

1831
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: very ugly quarterback rivalry that went on for a while

1832
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: quarterback controversy. But it was underrated because I don't think

1833
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: anyone could have forecast that Doug Flutie would have the

1834
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: long term impact on the franchise that he had. Right

1835
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 1: he outplayed Rob and he basically ensured that the Bills

1836
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: were going to sell enough of premium seats to keep

1837
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: the franchise solving for a while. I don't think anyone

1838
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 1: anticipated that the Flute signing, when had happened, would have

1839
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: that kind of impact. Again, I think Ted was my

1840
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 1: most underrated signing, but I put Flutie right there alongside

1841
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 1: it as a signing that was greeted with the you know, shrugs.

1842
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,640
Speaker 1: Oh guy from Canada. Yeah, I remember Doug Flutie the

1843
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:20,919
Speaker 1: magical play in college football against against the Miami Hurricanes.

1844
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 1: But he was It's hard to admit sometimes because of

1845
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 1: Doug Flutie in the way he is, but he was

1846
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: a pivotal figure in the future in the history of

1847
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 1: the franchise, right. And I think the reason it went

1848
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: so who hum, even though there was name recognition there

1849
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: was because the team, after trading for Rob, had already

1850
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: established that Johnson was going to be the appointed starter.

1851
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: So whoever signed after that was automatically assumed to be

1852
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 1: the backup. And that's just kind of the way it went.

1853
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: Of course, Rob gets hurt in the first game in

1854
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: ninety eight, and Flutie almost leads a comeback in that

1855
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: week one game. I think they lost sixteen fourteen, but

1856
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 1: he had two touchdown drives later they almost won a game.

1857
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: I think it was underrated. Number two questions, as we

1858
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: were asked to write about the top ten free agent

1859
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 1: signings in Bill's history. Part of The Bill's Top ten

1860
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: series Most important free agent signing on the current roster,

1861
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 1: the active roster I went with a j. McCarron. He

1862
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: is I think the favorite to wind up as the

1863
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: opening day starter on September ninth. He could play the

1864
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 1: year and also I think be a mentor for Josh

1865
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 1: Allen moving forward. The way the Bills got him I

1866
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 1: think was important. You know, waited until the first tier

1867
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 1: of free agent signings. We talked about the money that

1868
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 1: was paid to Kirk Cousins, etc. And some of the others.

1869
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: I think McCarron, because of the fact that he could

1870
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 1: wind up as a starter, would likely be the most

1871
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 1: important free agent on this year's roster. What do you think, Chris,

1872
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 1: I went to the other side of the ball, and

1873
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: I think I picked this guy more because of what

1874
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: they lost at the position than anything else. I went

1875
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: with Vontae Davis because after three cornerbacks are essentially not

1876
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:00,719
Speaker 1: coming back on this roster in the form of j Gaines,

1877
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: Leonard Johnson, Charisse Wright, you had a gaping hole in

1878
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: the secondary, not only from a starting perspective, but from

1879
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: a depth perspective as well. Obviously, you want to plug

1880
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: the starting role first and foremost, and to do that

1881
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 1: before the free agent market even opens. By signing Davis,

1882
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: who had been cut by Indianapolis late last year and

1883
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: was a free agent before a free agency I thought

1884
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,919
Speaker 1: was almost a coup to get him in here. Grantedy

1885
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 1: was coming off growing surgery, had to have all those

1886
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: things check out medically, but once they did to have

1887
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: a guy of his caliber, and I know he's a

1888
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 1: little long in the tooth. He's twenty nine years old,

1889
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 1: he's been in the league for a while, or maybe

1890
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 1: even his thirty, but I still think he's capable of

1891
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 1: being a top flight starting corner in this league. Maybe

1892
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 1: not Pro Bowl caliber, but half a notch below that.

1893
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,799
Speaker 1: I think he can still play at that level, provided

1894
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 1: he stays healthy. And so to add him to a

1895
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: secondary that really overachieved last year and has huge expectations

1896
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 1: coming into this season, I think was great. He's, in

1897
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 1: my estimation, he's a better corner than EJ. Gaines, So

1898
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: I think you upgraded the position, and to do that

1899
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 1: when you had three losses at corner, I thought was huge.

1900
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: Next up, we were asked the question the most memorable

1901
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 1: recruitment of a free agent in franchise history. I went with, um,

1902
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: I'll go first on I went with Mario Williams twenty twelve,

1903
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 1: and the recruitment was all in the space of a

1904
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 1: couple of days, and it was weird. It was almost

1905
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 1: a product of the times, I thought, Chris, because you know,

1906
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: live television technology had been enhanced to the point where

1907
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: TV stations, and I was working in local TV at

1908
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 1: the time, you do live shots from anywhere one Bill's Drive, airport,

1909
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: and there was technology available and people to be able

1910
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: to do that. Social media in twenty and twelve was

1911
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 1: just coming around, So Twitter, I believe, was just coming around,

1912
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 1: and you could immediately communicate the reports that you heard,

1913
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: the stuff that you wanted to get out there, and

1914
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 1: that all kind I played into the kind of superheated

1915
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: atmosphere about Mario Williams. He came for a visit. People

1916
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,640
Speaker 1: were breathless reporting on what he was doing. You know,

1917
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 1: he's going out to Jim Kelly's house. He's seeing deer

1918
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 1: in Jim Kelly's backyard. He's going to the airport. Why

1919
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 1: is he going to the airport? Is he leaving? Is

1920
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: the visit over? No, He's going to pick up his

1921
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 1: fiance At the time, I mean that kind of stuff,

1922
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 1: it was crazy. The only thing that was missing from

1923
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:25,440
Speaker 1: that was the white puff of smoke out of the chimney.

1924
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,679
Speaker 1: It was like waiting for the pope to get named

1925
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 1: at the Vaticans. It was nuts. Now that kind of

1926
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 1: overshadowed his career. His career here was okay, not great,

1927
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 1: almost uneventful compared to all the attention the push to

1928
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: get him here was. And it was an important signing

1929
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 1: that it was a guy they thought they needed on defense,

1930
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: not a popular guy in the locker room or among

1931
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 1: the fan bases, it turned out. But at the time,

1932
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 1: recruiting wise, I'd never seen anything like it, and probably

1933
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 1: never since. As a matter of fact, it was unique.

1934
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: You got Lenova Pizza spelling his name out on a

1935
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 1: pizza pie and taking a social media photo of that.

1936
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 1: Like I said, it was like like people were waiting

1937
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 1: for the puff of smoke out of the chimney to

1938
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 1: find out whether he was signing or not. And it

1939
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: was a two day saga before all the contract language

1940
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 1: got ironed out. I still remember Buddy Knicks at the

1941
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 1: press conference, and I know we were waiting and you

1942
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 1: were all patient with us, you know, and he talking

1943
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: about how long it took, and yeah, just that and

1944
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 1: the other it was. It was funny, but you had

1945
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 1: another one and a good one for the most memorable recruits. Yeah,

1946
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 1: I went with Tekuio Spikes only because the recruiting effort

1947
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 1: was spawned by the fans. And we're talking two thousand

1948
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 1: and three. Now, this is before long before social media

1949
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 1: is even an idea or a concept. And the last

1950
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 1: game of the regular season in two thousand and two

1951
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 1: was Bengals at Bills, and so here comes ta Kio

1952
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 1: Spikes down the tunnel, and their talk had already been rampant.

1953
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 1: They need another, you know, linebacker talent. You know, Tom

1954
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,839
Speaker 1: Donahoe was already talking about being active in free agency

1955
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 1: the following with the offseason that was coming up, and

1956
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, here comes to Kio Spikes, who everybody knows

1957
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: his contract is going to be up, and he comes

1958
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 1: out of the tunnel for the Bills Bengals game. There

1959
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 1: are signs directly addressed to Takio Spikes, and there were

1960
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 1: chants during that game that I distinctly remember, we want Spikes,

1961
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 1: we want spikes, and banners hanging off the second level

1962
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 1: signed with us. Takio. We'll see in September all of

1963
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 1: this stuff. And I still remember doing the interview with

1964
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: Takio after he signed here, doing a one on one

1965
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: with him, and he admitted that the fan bases direct

1966
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:49,759
Speaker 1: reach out to him in week seventeen was a factor

1967
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 1: in him coming here to play for the Bills. I

1968
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 1: mean there were a whole host of other factors obviously too,

1969
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 1: but he was impressed that the Bills fans were knowledgeable

1970
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 1: enough to know he was going to be a free

1971
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,679
Speaker 1: agent and then started the recruiting process. I just thought

1972
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 1: it was a very unique set of circumstances, and that's

1973
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 1: why I picked te Kio. You also picked to Kio

1974
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 1: for the final question we were asked about, and that

1975
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 1: was the most memorable single game performance by a Bill's

1976
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 1: free agent. Talk about that, well, actually I didn't. I didn't.

1977
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 1: I initially thought about him because I remember going with

1978
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: his first game going back to Cincinnati, had like a

1979
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: fifty two yard interception return. It was huge. Bills won

1980
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 1: that game. But ultimately I think what trump that for

1981
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 1: me was Mario Williams four and a half sack game

1982
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 1: against the Carolina Panthers, which set a single game franchise record,

1983
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 1: And the thing that was most impressive to me because

1984
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: Murph I still remember standing on the sidelines with you

1985
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 1: getting ready to shoot the pregame television show that we do,

1986
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: Bills All Access, and we're standing there watching Cam Newton

1987
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,600
Speaker 1: warm up. Do you remember this? Yeah? I mean you know,

1988
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: you can read on a piece of paper he's six five,

1989
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty five pounds, But when you stand

1990
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 1: next to him or ten yards away from him on

1991
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: a football field, he's an Adonis. Yeah, like Cam Newton is,

1992
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 1: I mean one of the four or five physical anomalies

1993
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 1: of the NFL. The NFL a league full of physical anomalies.

1994
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:20,639
Speaker 1: Cam Newton stands out every time the Bills play him.

1995
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 1: I had make a point of getting down on the

1996
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 1: field and seeing him being on the same level with him.

1997
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. But Mario Williams is his physical equal. Yeah,

1998
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 1: I think just from an Adonis, like stand next to

1999
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 1: the Holy Cow. This guy is real, like just a

2000
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 1: human shadow. It's just forget it. So to see him

2001
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 1: perform the way he did in that game four and

2002
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: a half sacks, and to see the Bills Adonis get

2003
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 1: the best of the Carolina Panthers Adonis, it was one

2004
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: of the most memorable games I saw and then the

2005
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 1: way they won the game. Obviously, the last second touchdown

2006
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 1: passed to Stevie Johnson two seconds left, they win the

2007
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 1: game twenty three. Ron Rivera almost gets fired after that

2008
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 1: game because he was running out a rope and then

2009
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 1: Riverboat Ron was born. After that. They remember they didn't

2010
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth down in that game, and

2011
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 1: then he did after that the rest of the season. Yeah,

2012
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: and they turned their season around. I just it was

2013
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 1: a memorable game for me. Forty three and a half

2014
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 1: sacks in four seasons for Mario, I mean, for three

2015
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 1: of those years, they really did get their money's worth,

2016
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 1: Ada Mario. Most memorable single game performance by a Bills

2017
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 1: free agent. I went with Bryce Pop and his first

2018
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: year here in ninety five. He finished a year was

2019
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half sacks. But Week three Bryce Pop

2020
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 1: against the Colts, Bills wanted Pop with three sacks, two

2021
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 1: forced fumbles, fourteen tackles. He was the AFC Defensive Player

2022
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 1: of the Week. Is six. Six weeks later, again against

2023
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 1: the Colts, he had another three sack game. I just

2024
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 1: like the fact that he was sacking Jim Harville. But

2025
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 1: to me, that was oh en. Jeff Georgia. That was

2026
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 1: his best that week three, his third game with the

2027
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills most memorable single game performance. A lot of

2028
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 1: these are up on the TV show The Bill's Top

2029
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: Ten Series, which airs on a pretty consistent basis on MSG.

2030
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 1: And you can see the show that debuted on Monday,

2031
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: the top ten free agent signings in Bill's History. Next Monday,

2032
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 1: the top ten individual seasons in Bill's History. Look for

2033
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's Top ten. Cent's gonna be a good one. Yeah,

2034
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: presented by Aesthetic Associates, and it's up on MSG. All

2035
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 1: shows airing on MSG. Back to our Quarterback Talk. In

2036
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: the third and final hour of the show, We're gonna

2037
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 1: talk about the Denver Broncos and what kse Keena might

2038
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 1: mean for them. Tyler Palumbus from the Denver Radio crew

2039
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: will join us next hour. Love to hear from you.

2040
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 1: Who is the Which team is going to improve or

2041
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 1: maybe decline the most? A team with a different quarterback

2042
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 1: than started last year. Phone lines opened at eight oh

2043
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty outside Buffalo one eight eight eight

2044
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty one does live from one

2045
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Buffalo Bills

2046
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: Radio Network Boards update. The update comes from one Bill's

2047
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: drive in the middle of our show, Hockey Talk a

2048
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 1: Lot of It. Today, the Sabers announced the day that

2049
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 1: their home openers coming up Thursday, October fourth. They will

2050
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 1: host the Boston Bruins on Thursday October fourth, one hundred

2051
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 1: and six days away. The full schedule for the Sabers

2052
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 1: in the NHL schedule to be released tomorrow night. Tonight's

2053
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 1: the Big Night in the NHL. NHL Awards Night in

2054
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,639
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Ryan O'Reilly, looking for his second Lady Bing

2055
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: Trophy of his career, were gentlemanly played. Jilbert Perrow the

2056
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 1: only other Saber to have won the Lady Bing Trophy.

2057
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 1: He did it back in nineteen seventy three. Of course.

2058
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:36,679
Speaker 1: The first round of the NHL Entry Draft is set

2059
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 1: for Friday seven thirty pm. The rest of the draft

2060
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 1: is eleven am on Saturday. The Sabers have the first

2061
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 1: overall pick, expected to choose rest Miss Dalene in the

2062
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: first round with the first pick the Instigators. Our buddies.

2063
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 1: The Instigators will be in Dallas for their show tomorrow

2064
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 1: ten am to twelve noon, and then in Dallas Friday

2065
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 1: ten am to three pm for a full five hour

2066
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 1: show on Draft date. NHL Entry Draft coming up this week,

2067
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: the NFL Players Association has a college Bowl game and

2068
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 1: All Star game, the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl, and today they

2069
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 1: announced that former Bills GM Doug Whaley is a new

2070
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 1: director of college scouting for that game. Twenty two years

2071
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: of NFL personnel experience for Doug Whaley. He was the

2072
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:21,440
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills general manager from two thirteen through two seventeen.

2073
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 1: Nearly two hundred scouts, player personnel staff, general managers and

2074
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 1: head coaches from all thirty two teams watch the NFLPA

2075
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 1: Collegiate Bowl. Doug Whaley the director of personnel for that game.

2076
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 1: Around the NFL, the Brown signed former number two overall

2077
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 1: pick Greg Robinson last night. Signing comes days after the

2078
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:42,919
Speaker 1: league announced that offensive tackle Donald Stevenson has been suspended

2079
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 1: for the first two games for violating the substance abuse Policy.

2080
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 1: World Cup soccer Portugal beat Morocco one to nothing today.

2081
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 1: Christiano Ronaldo made European soccer history by scoring and Portugal

2082
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 1: the first North African team, or rather Morocco the first

2083
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 1: North African team to be eliminated from the World Cup.

2084
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy with

2085
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Welcome to the show. We're here for another

2086
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 1: hour or so. We're gonna talk with Tyler Polumbus in

2087
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 1: a moment. He is the radio sideline reporter for the

2088
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos radio network. I want to talk to him

2089
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 1: about our Twitter poll and where the Denver Broncos are

2090
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 1: at quarterback with case Keenum. Now, are they improved? In

2091
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:24,520
Speaker 1: fact our Twitter poll, which team that has changed quarterbacks

2092
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 1: changed out from last year is going to be most improved?

2093
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 1: You're welcome to weigh in on that eight oh three

2094
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

2095
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 1: two five fifty or on Twitter. Vote in our Twitter

2096
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 1: poll or let us know what you think via Twitter.

2097
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: I think I settled down to the Denver Broncos. Chris,

2098
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 1: did you have a team that you thought that would

2099
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:43,679
Speaker 1: be most I was kind of in the same place

2100
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 1: just because I think, what were they a seven win

2101
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 1: team last year? Yeah, still have a top five defense.

2102
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 1: You know, I think with Keenum at the controls, you

2103
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 1: can make the argument they could win ten games. You

2104
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 1: know in an AFC West that's also going to have

2105
01:44:57,160 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 1: a young quarterback in Kansas City, kind of learning feeling

2106
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 1: his way, coaching change in Oakland. I don't know if

2107
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people are convinced that after being out

2108
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Speaker 1: of the league for twelve years that John Gruden's going

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01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:09,759
Speaker 1: to be up on all the things that have changed.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they might have a tough time out there.

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Speaker 1: So really it's it's Denver and the Los Angeles Chargers

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Speaker 1: that are kind of competing for that division title. You

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01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 1: can make the argument that Denver could improve from being

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01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 1: a seven win team to a ten win team, I

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01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 1: think rather easily, because I think that defense might even

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01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:31,600
Speaker 1: be better this year. No One, Bradley Chubbs on the

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01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 1: other side of Von Miller, It's gonna be hard to

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Speaker 1: quarterback against that pass rush. Let's take a phone call

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Speaker 1: on this. We got a call on the line from

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Speaker 1: Gary on a sell Gary, go ahead, welcome to the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as good, Thank you. I have two points to make,

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Speaker 1: if that's all right. One's about Tom y'all were talking

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01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 1: about yesterday, and then the punk question to day. Sure,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, first of all, to tell about the poll question.

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01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 1: I think, obviously, if you're talking about the quarterbacks, the

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01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 1: new quarterbacks I think the bon goes. But if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna say that, the forty nine is gonna be added

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01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 1: into that because, um, you know, when we started five games,

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Speaker 1: I really think the forty Niners are going to be

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01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 1: a really approved team. You know, the NFC West is

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01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 1: kind of you know, tough divisions, but I think they

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01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: stack a well against those opponents. So I would say

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Speaker 1: Broncos forty Niners. And then the second thing, you guys

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01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 1: were talking about Brady last yesterday. Yeah right, you remember

2135
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 1: when Marino, Kelly and like eight men they got older

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01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 1: and they were just move was good, and they came

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01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 1: back for the last year and they just weren't the

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01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 1: same quarterbacks. I kind of want him to do that

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01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 1: just so I can watch Buffalo, like, you know, get

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01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 1: to him a little bit. Not that I don't respect him,

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01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 1: I just want to see. I just want to see

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01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 1: what he's done to us, us to do to him

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01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 1: at least one time. It's just it's kind of patty,

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01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 1: I know, but it's I get you. I'm signing up

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01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 1: for that. I figured you guys, literally, I'm signing up

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01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 1: for that. You know what your your your thought makes

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01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 1: me think about Gary is uh story? Where the Bills

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01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: have played like that against the quarterback fading and of

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01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,640
Speaker 1: course the famous Bills went over the Chiefs in the

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01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:10,720
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game against Joe Montana. Montana was awful, right,

2151
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 1: and he got knocked down in that game, right, he

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01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 1: couldn't finish. Yeah, I remember that game, well, yeah, I do.

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01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 1: I just like I remember Kelly got older. Yeah, last year,

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01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 1: and I heard all these negative things to other teams

2155
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 1: and just really got on my skin because Kelly he

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01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 1: was like my favorite of all time. And I just

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01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 1: want to see Brady one year hang on. One year

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01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:31,639
Speaker 1: too long. That's why I tell everybody. But let's hope

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01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: it's the year. Of course, Gary, it suffice to say,

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Speaker 1: you're not looking for any permanent physical damage to Tom Brady, Right,

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear it. I didn't hear a Tom on

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01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 1: the other way there. I don't. I don't know if

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01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 1: he can confirm or deny, but I get what you mean.

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01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, at the end, you know, at the end

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Speaker 1: of Marino's tenure in Miami, he had some rough outings

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Speaker 1: against the Bills and it was had to be difficult

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01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, and you know, the Bills had it

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01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,839
Speaker 1: happened to them too. Oh yeah, Kelly in the playoff

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01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 1: game him against Jacksonville. You know, that's his career ends

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Speaker 1: on that day, going off on a cart. So I

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01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, the time comes for everybody. Father time is undefeated, unfortunately,

2172
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, for you know, and we see unfortunate ends

2173
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 1: to careers sometime, and Jim's was one of them. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to see Tom Brady go

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01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 1: off on a cart with a concussion, which is what

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01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 1: Jim experienced. But I write his reign, like to see

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Speaker 1: the Bills get the best to him and have him

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01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:34,720
Speaker 1: and have him and experience an embarrassing poor day of passing. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's not like it hasn't happened before. The two times

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Speaker 1: the Bills beat the Patriots here in Buffalo on Tom

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01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 1: Brady's watch. We're in two thousand and three, the thirty

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Speaker 1: one to nothing game. He had four picks in that

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Speaker 1: game and the two eleven game that Ryan Lindell won

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Speaker 1: with the last second field goal in Week three to

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Speaker 1: improve the Bills to three. And oh Brady had four

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Speaker 1: interceptions in that game. So that has happened. I'm getting

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Speaker 1: the sense that he would like to see Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: gets sacked about half a dozen times. That might bring

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Speaker 1: more pleasure to everybody than four interceptions. Right, Hey, speaking

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Speaker 1: to Brady now. We talked yesterday about his television appearance

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Speaker 1: with oprah M. Brady m ESPN Instagram post he responded to,

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Speaker 1: did you catch this? So I did not. Brady responded

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Speaker 1: to an ESPN Instagram post Sunday. Was he eating avocado

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Speaker 1: toast in the photo or no? He talked about speculation

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01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 1: of when he might retire. His response was, Chris, and

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Speaker 1: you speak Spanish, I think Quarenta is sinkoti, yes, forty five.

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Speaker 1: Attached to the comment from Brady's verified Instagram account were

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Speaker 1: three monkey emojis. You know what those means? See no evil,

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Speaker 1: hear no evil, oh, good lord whatever? Yeah, sometimes used

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01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 1: as a playful I didn't want to say that expression.

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Speaker 1: According to ESPN, now it's an Instagram post written in Spanish,

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Speaker 1: Quarenta is sinco forty five, But it's being analyzed like

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01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 1: it's the Pentagon Papers. Mike Grease, who's a great reporter

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Speaker 1: at the ESPN am on this week. Yeah, he says

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Speaker 1: Brady's comment matches what he told Ian o'connorback a year ago.

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Speaker 1: May twenty seventeen, when he said, quote, I always say

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Speaker 1: my mid forties, and naturally that means about forty five.

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Speaker 1: If I get there and I still feel like I

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Speaker 1: do today, I don't see why I wouldn't want to continue.

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Speaker 1: Brady turns forty one years old on August thirties year,

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Speaker 1: two years left on his contract. What do you think

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Speaker 1: of that? Can he play till he's forty five? He's

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01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 1: a chameleon and annoying. No, he's a chameleon because what

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Speaker 1: he said on Oprah was completely the opposite. And we

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Speaker 1: had Mike Grease on the air and he said, you know,

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Speaker 1: reading between the lines of what Tom said in the

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Speaker 1: Oprah interview would lend credence that right now he's on

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Speaker 1: a year to year basis and that's how he's operating.

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01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:54,520
Speaker 1: He's definitely locked in for twenty eighteen. But to suggest

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Speaker 1: that twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, or even

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Speaker 1: on the table, I think would be somewhat foolhardy. Based

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Speaker 1: on his comments about missing family stuff and all that,

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01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's clearly a part of his thinking. And

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Speaker 1: then with you know, the Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas's

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Speaker 1: most a student analysis. He said, if you're on OPRAH,

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Speaker 1: you're already retired. What does that mean? I don't know

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01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 1: what it means, but he was borrowing the Marv levyism

2228
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 1: and then said, and forget about mar for a second.

2229
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:29,680
Speaker 1: He goes, if you're doing OPRAH, you're already retired. And

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Speaker 1: I can't disagree with them. That's fantastic. Earlier this year,

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01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 1: in May, Brady appeared at the Milken Institute Global Conference

2232
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:41,680
Speaker 1: said he has quote negotiated the next two years with

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01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 1: his wife, but as a little further to go when

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01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 1: those family talks, right, you gotta believe his wife has

2235
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 1: a lot to do with us, right. His wife has

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01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 1: become increasingly more prominent in terms of her outspokenness about

2237
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 1: Brady's future. And she is going to be the Yoko

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01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 1: owner for Boston fans. Yeah, she will be the yo

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01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 1: go on no of Boston fans, no doubt in my mind.

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Speaker 1: She will be the bane of their existence. They will

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01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 1: they will curse her and route, you know, not like her,

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01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 1: no matter what kind of supermodel beauty she has. It

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01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: will be all out the window if she gets Tom

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01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 1: Brady to prematurely retire in the eyes of Boston fans

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01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:24,560
Speaker 1: mid forties Brady's talking about, at least on Instagram, Kane

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01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 1: is sinko. Whatever do you think, Chris? You should have

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01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 1: done it in Portuguese to honor his wife, who's of

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01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 1: Brazilian heritage. What do you think when um, It's been

2249
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 1: speculated that one of these years Brady's performance will drop precipitously.

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Speaker 1: Do you see that happening? I told you I already

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01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 1: seen it. How have you seen that missing throws that

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01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 1: he usually makes. There was a thing about the game here, Murph,

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01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 1: do you remember that pass? It's down? It was down

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01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 1: the seam. It was a seam throw, and I can't

2255
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,200
Speaker 1: remember who the receiver was. It was not Gronkowski, and

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01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 1: he just flat out missed him, like by two feet

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01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 1: over his head an overthrow and there was no pressure

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01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 1: on him in the pocket and he just flat out

2259
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 1: missed it. And me and two other media members looked

2260
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 1: at each other, going, he didn't miss those? And then

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01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 1: the next the next game up in New England, there

2262
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 1: were two or three plays he miss throws there, including

2263
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 1: one in the end zone. Now that's only a two

2264
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 1: game sample, but then we went to the playoffs and

2265
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 1: there were two games that I watched there and said,

2266
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 1: that's a play he usually makes, and there's a play

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01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: he usually makes. And granted, everybody can have an off day,

2268
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 1: but Brady's standard. Maybe it's unrealistic what he's been able

2269
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 1: to do, but I think the dropoff has already begun,

2270
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,600
Speaker 1: not to the point where he's still not going to

2271
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 1: be one of the top five to six quarterbacks in

2272
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: the league, but there is a little bit of a

2273
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 1: drop off there, and I'm hoping there's an other drop off.

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01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 1: He's number one in the league. Now, No, Rogers, who

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01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:06,040
Speaker 1: do you got? I would go Rogers, Breeze. Those would

2276
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 1: be the first two for me. Breezes, you know, dropped

2277
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 1: off a little bit Asny, He's ridiculous. Rogers and Breeze

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01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 1: are the most accurate. And in my mind, it's not

2279
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 1: even close. I really not even close. And then I

2280
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 1: would put Brady third. Brady third right now? All right, Hey,

2281
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 1: we're talking about quarterballs and help that. I don't like him,

2282
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:29,680
Speaker 1: So what's your problem with him? I don't like he's

2283
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 1: in our division. He's killing us. Yeah, I hate him.

2284
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 1: I've resigned myself to that. I mean, the damage is

2285
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 1: done with him killing the Bill. You're numb. I'm numb.

2286
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 1: You're numb. I'm numb to the pain. I know that

2287
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 1: it's there. It'll never go away. Those that record, what

2288
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 1: is he not a fan? What in three thirty something?

2289
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 1: In three against the Bills? Yeah? Whatever, we're talking about

2290
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks today. I want to get you involved. Let us

2291
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: know what you think about our question. It deals with

2292
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 1: the teams that have switched quarterbacks, teams who had a

2293
01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 1: different quarterback to start last season. They're about eight of them,

2294
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 1: depending on how you measure it, and we want to

2295
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 1: know from you which team will be most improved. Maybe

2296
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 1: you'd like to approach it as which team will drop

2297
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 1: off the most from last year to this Give us

2298
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 1: a call at eight oh three oh five fifty or

2299
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five

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01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. You can vote in our Twitter poll.

2301
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 1: And I think it's an interesting response to our Twitter

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01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 1: poll when we ask the question, which team with a

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01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 1: new opening day starter at quarterback will be the most improved? Still,

2304
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 1: forty one percent say the Bills. I disagree, and I

2305
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 1: don't understand that. Thirty one percent say the Broncos. I

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01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 1: get that. That's where I'd vote fourteen percent say Washington,

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01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 1: fourteen percent say somebody else. Explain it to me eight

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01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 1: three fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

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01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 1: two five fifty. On the tweet sheet, John Dubek, I

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01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: see the Bills being the most improved, mainly second year

2311
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 1: in the defense and the addition of players like star Lotulalay.

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01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 1: Defense wins championships. That's a perspective we really haven't entertained yet, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the defense. But I do think we're looking for people

2314
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 1: to relate. I think we're looking for people to relate

2315
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 1: the change of quarterback with improvement. Right. Isn't that kind

2316
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 1: of understood? Yeah, what this questions about. And even that

2317
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 1: has had different offshoots of interpretations, like, you know, improvement

2318
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 1: in the passing game, not improvement in the win column. Right. Um.

2319
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 1: A tweet from Derek hankson says Chiefs with Mahomes Now

2320
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 1: they had a ten win season last year. There's a

2321
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 1: lot of buzz about Pat Mahomes. There's a post on

2322
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 1: the Ringer dot com that got our attention. Is written

2323
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 1: by Danny Kelly, who's been a guest on the show.

2324
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 1: He said the Patrick Mahomes hype train is already leaving

2325
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 1: the station. He says he's on it. Danny Kelly says

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01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,640
Speaker 1: he's on it. Um Mahomes has at a good spring,

2327
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 1: they say in their unpadded practices, a great preseason last year.

2328
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes is rookie year. And then Week seventeen, A

2329
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 1: lot of people get hung up on Week seventeen what

2330
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 1: he did in the season end here twenty seven, twenty

2331
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 1: four road win against the Proncos. In that game, Mahomes

2332
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 1: twenty two with thirty five two hundred and eighty four yards,

2333
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, one interception, seventeen degree weather, they will tell you,

2334
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:09,280
Speaker 1: and Danny Kelly will tell you it's not just the

2335
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 1: numbers but the throws that he made that was most impressive.

2336
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: Mahomes with patch the rope over the middle for thirty

2337
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 1: five yards there for our MSG viewers, that look pretty

2338
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 1: good to me. So the numbers maybe not jumping out

2339
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 1: at you, but the throws that he made in that game.

2340
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 1: I think many people who are on the Patent Mahomes

2341
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 1: hype creame thinks that's that's what they get most out

2342
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 1: of there. I don't know what do you think. Yeah, again,

2343
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 1: we have to remember that the NFL isn't about the

2344
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 1: wow throws. It's about staying on the field, being consistent

2345
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 1: and getting first downs and you know, for lack of

2346
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 1: a better term, or triculating the ball down the field.

2347
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 1: So I think the consistency is what sometimes gets lost

2348
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 1: on people. And let's not forget when Mahomes came out

2349
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 1: in the draft in sixteen or seventeen. I'm sorry, I

2350
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 1: got my ears mixed up. The criticism was has all

2351
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 1: the physical tools, but does not have the consistency in

2352
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 1: terms of quarterback mechanics throwing mechanics, relies on his arm

2353
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 1: too much and doesn't really string enough plays together on

2354
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 1: a consistent basis, which often puts him in a position

2355
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:23,080
Speaker 1: to have to make the spectacular play. I think you

2356
01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: can get away with that a whole lot more in

2357
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 1: college just by virtue of the fact that you're a

2358
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 1: superior athlete, where in the NFL it's much harder to

2359
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 1: overcome a lack of consistency with those spectacular wow type

2360
01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 1: plays because they're going to come fewer and further between,

2361
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 1: just by virtue of the fact that the talent you're

2362
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 1: going against each and every week, it's gonna be different

2363
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, and Danny Kelly writes about that. When

2364
01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 1: you think about the way Alex Smith played it, you

2365
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:49,040
Speaker 1: think about the Chiefs a couple of years ago not

2366
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 1: getting a touchdown reception from any receivers, you would think

2367
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 1: that Mahomes is going to be different and we'll force

2368
01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 1: the ball down the field, downfield passing attack. Danny Kelly

2369
01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 1: writes about it. Mahomes brings to Kansas City the promise

2370
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:04,200
Speaker 1: of him exciting, dynamic and daring downfield passing attack, not

2371
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 1: to mention the salary camp flexibility provided by his cheap

2372
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 1: rookie contract. Alex Smith was, as you pointed out earlier

2373
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:12,800
Speaker 1: in the show, Chris, a little bit like Tyrod Taylor.

2374
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:16,680
Speaker 1: Not gonna make mistakes. Twenty six touchdowns, five interceptions last year.

2375
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 1: They only had eleven turnovers last year. The Chiefs those

2376
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 1: days might be gone, but Kansas City might be ready

2377
01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 1: to live with that in order to go deeper in

2378
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I guess I have a bigger profile in

2379
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I don't know if the touchdown interception ratio

2380
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 1: is going to help achieve that, though, because I expect

2381
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 1: Mahomes to not be a twenty six and five guy. Yeah,

2382
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 1: I expect him to be a twenty and twelve guy,

2383
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 1: maybe a twenty and thirteen guy. I see that guy

2384
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:44,200
Speaker 1: throwing a lot of picks, not only because of inexperience

2385
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:47,800
Speaker 1: and getting fooled by certain coverages, but because he has

2386
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 1: no problem throwing off of any kind of platform, off

2387
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 1: his back foot on the move, off balance across his body.

2388
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 1: He'll do anything because he has so much confidence in

2389
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 1: his arm strength, and it is impressive arm strength. And

2390
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 1: let's not forget that his dad and his uncle were

2391
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 1: both major league pitchers, so you know it's in the genes.

2392
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,040
Speaker 1: He's from the deep end of the gene pool in

2393
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:13,000
Speaker 1: terms of arm talent. I don't think there's any question

2394
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:18,040
Speaker 1: about that. But when you don't rely on sound mechanics

2395
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:22,480
Speaker 1: techniques at the NFL level, it makes it harder to

2396
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 1: separate yourself from the rest of the pack in the league.

2397
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 1: And I think that may prove to be a hard

2398
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 1: lesson for him because up until this point in his career,

2399
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:37,320
Speaker 1: he's gotten away with it because he's just so supremely talented.

2400
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 1: Now he's playing on a level playing field with other

2401
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 1: people who are just as talented as him, so it's

2402
02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:45,440
Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting to see if he is able

2403
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 1: to wrap his head around the fact that he has

2404
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:51,000
Speaker 1: to do more than just show up and throw the

2405
02:00:51,080 --> 02:00:52,800
Speaker 1: ball all over the field. He's got a lot of

2406
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 1: weapons on offense and a really good coach. I mean,

2407
02:00:55,160 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 1: they got the Kareem Hunt to carry the football. They've

2408
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:00,680
Speaker 1: got the Travis Kelsey, who's one of the better tight

2409
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,040
Speaker 1: ends in the league, and they add Sammy Watkins to

2410
02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 1: the mix. We all know about Sammy Watkins what he

2411
02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 1: might be able to provide them, and Andy Reid putting

2412
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 1: it all together. So it seems like it's set up

2413
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:13,440
Speaker 1: well for Pat Mahomes Chris maybe there is. He certainly

2414
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:16,240
Speaker 1: walks into a good situation from a coaching perspective, from

2415
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:20,320
Speaker 1: a talent around him perspective. You know, their defense needs

2416
02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:22,840
Speaker 1: some help twenty eighth in the league last year, so

2417
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:26,400
Speaker 1: they got to fix the defense to provide more support

2418
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,840
Speaker 1: to him on offense, get him the ball back more often.

2419
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:31,720
Speaker 1: And you know they traded away Marcus Peters, their best

2420
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 1: cover corners, so be interesting to see how that plays out.

2421
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 1: For sure. Now, the guy he replaces, Alex Smith, is

2422
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:40,440
Speaker 1: in an interesting spot in Washington, and he's Washington is

2423
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 1: on our list of teams that you know could improve. Right,

2424
02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:45,480
Speaker 1: which team would with a new starting quarterback might improve?

2425
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Washington, I happen to think though. There's a

2426
02:01:49,080 --> 02:01:51,360
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Alex Smith and on Jay Gruden.

2427
02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:54,680
Speaker 1: Chris you know, when you think about it. Redskins haven't

2428
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:59,040
Speaker 1: won a postseason game since two thousand and five. They

2429
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:02,360
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs last two years. Smith comes from Kansas

2430
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:04,600
Speaker 1: City that made the playoffs what four the last five,

2431
02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 1: but never earned more than nine wins until last year.

2432
02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 1: Nine wins in a season. I don't know if Alex

2433
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Smith is up to the task of making Washington better.

2434
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't appear that he is. He's thirty four years old.

2435
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:19,440
Speaker 1: He is a kind of a minimize your mistakes type

2436
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:22,440
Speaker 1: of quarterback in the NFL. Doesn't have a ton of

2437
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 1: weapons around him, not the kind of weapons he left

2438
02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:26,360
Speaker 1: behind in Kansas City, and I think he'll face some

2439
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:28,520
Speaker 1: pressure there if things go south in Washington. What do

2440
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, I don't know if he's a quarterback

2441
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 1: who's capable of raising the level of the players around

2442
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 1: I think he needs a strong supporting cast. Now, granted

2443
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:39,800
Speaker 1: they should be healthier at least at the outset of

2444
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:42,000
Speaker 1: the season because they had a myriad of injuries, which

2445
02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:45,400
Speaker 1: is why Kirk Cousins numbers fell off last year. He

2446
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:48,520
Speaker 1: was playing with half an offensive line, Pierre Garson was

2447
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:52,520
Speaker 1: gone to Shaun Jackson was in Tampa Bay, and the

2448
02:02:52,680 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 1: talent at receiver just didn't match up to what it

2449
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 1: was a year prior. And even the tight end Jordan

2450
02:02:57,640 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 1: Reid was hurt again and in and out of the lineup,

2451
02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:02,320
Speaker 1: so you know, a lot of his weapons were not available.

2452
02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:03,960
Speaker 1: And I think they were three deep on the running

2453
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:06,960
Speaker 1: back chart two with the injuries they had their last season,

2454
02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:10,520
Speaker 1: along with their left tackle being out. So to me,

2455
02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:14,240
Speaker 1: if all of those, you know, if the linemen are back,

2456
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:18,400
Speaker 1: the running back situation is healthy, that's good. Now the receiver,

2457
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:23,560
Speaker 1: the receiving corps has to step up two. So it's

2458
02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:25,920
Speaker 1: gonna bearrass some watching. I think Alex Smith is the

2459
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 1: type of player who can be productive if the right

2460
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:30,280
Speaker 1: people are around him and he won't kill you in

2461
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 1: the turnover department. But short of that, it may be

2462
02:03:34,240 --> 02:03:37,760
Speaker 1: hard to replicate the success that he had in Kansas City.

2463
02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:40,120
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned how you think the Dolphins will

2464
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:41,680
Speaker 1: be one of the worst teams in the league. I

2465
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:43,800
Speaker 1: think there's a potential watching in might be there too,

2466
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, And I think there's a potential for things

2467
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:50,640
Speaker 1: sort of unraveling. Jake Gruden four seasons, twenty eight wins,

2468
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:53,320
Speaker 1: thirty five losses, in a tie. If they get off

2469
02:03:53,320 --> 02:03:54,760
Speaker 1: to a bad start, and I don't know if they're

2470
02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:56,840
Speaker 1: scheduled in front of me, you can see how Gruden

2471
02:03:56,960 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 1: might be. You know, you've got kind of an unstable

2472
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:01,680
Speaker 1: ownership situation, or at least an owner who I wouldn't

2473
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:05,120
Speaker 1: trust with my life, and you can see how things

2474
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 1: might clearly go south in a hurry in Washington, I

2475
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:09,720
Speaker 1: would think with a brand new quarterback there. Yeah, I'm

2476
02:04:09,720 --> 02:04:12,360
Speaker 1: taking a look at their schedule here, and let's see

2477
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 1: Week one, they play the Cardinals and they're away for

2478
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:22,040
Speaker 1: that game. That's probably a toss up on the road.

2479
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:24,600
Speaker 1: The next week, they've got the Colts that should be

2480
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:28,720
Speaker 1: a win at home, Packers in Week three, followed by

2481
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:31,560
Speaker 1: Saints in week four. Those are two tough games. I

2482
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:34,800
Speaker 1: don't know if you're winning those two. Panthers in week six,

2483
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:41,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys in week seven, then the Giants, Falcons, Bucks. That's

2484
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:47,720
Speaker 1: not an easy schedule. Texans, Cowboys again, Eagles, Giants, Jaguars.

2485
02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean they got some tough games. Yeah, and I

2486
02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:56,120
Speaker 1: think they got to get to the playoffs or Gruden

2487
02:04:56,160 --> 02:04:57,760
Speaker 1: could be out of a gig, right, yeah, I would

2488
02:04:57,760 --> 02:04:59,720
Speaker 1: think so all right to break here when we come back,

2489
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,400
Speaker 1: I felt true or false? And you still have time

2490
02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:04,160
Speaker 1: to chime in on our question which team with a

2491
02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:07,120
Speaker 1: new starting quarterback this year will be most improved? You

2492
02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:09,360
Speaker 1: can weigh in on Twitter on our Twitter poll, you

2493
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:11,040
Speaker 1: can give us a call eight oh three oh five

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02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:14,320
Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. Chris Brown here until three with us One

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Speaker 1: Goes Live from One Goes Drive, And this is Buffalo

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02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:28,640
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live from One

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02:05:28,680 --> 02:05:32,200
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Chris Brown here until three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Steve Taxer comes back next Monday. We've got to show tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: Brownie and I to wrap up the week. Hey, you

2501
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:41,600
Speaker 1: have somehow managed to keep track of the World Cup

2502
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:44,360
Speaker 1: today even while being hard at work on this show.

2503
02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:46,480
Speaker 1: Give us an update, Chris, what's happened since we started

2504
02:05:46,520 --> 02:05:49,840
Speaker 1: the show at noon? Spain is out possessing the heck

2505
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:52,480
Speaker 1: out of Iran, but they don't have anything to show

2506
02:05:52,520 --> 02:05:54,800
Speaker 1: for it right now. Still zero zero possession time is

2507
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: a good thing. Well yes, and Spain is the team

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02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:03,120
Speaker 1: that made this a popular tactic. They you know, the

2509
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:07,120
Speaker 1: analytics have shown possessed the ball, more you set up

2510
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 1: more scoring chances. More scoring chances generally means more goals

2511
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:14,360
Speaker 1: because you know, the analytics have shown one out of

2512
02:06:14,440 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 1: every nine shots usually results in a goal. So more

2513
02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:21,880
Speaker 1: possession time, more scoring chances, more goals. And when you

2514
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:24,080
Speaker 1: have the ball and the opponent doesn't, they can't score.

2515
02:06:24,280 --> 02:06:27,880
Speaker 1: How many shots per game typically it varies, but the

2516
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:33,840
Speaker 1: average is somewhere between nine and twelve per side. It's

2517
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:38,160
Speaker 1: higher when the when the opponent is simply outclassing the other,

2518
02:06:38,680 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 1: which will be probably the case here between Spain and Iran.

2519
02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Spain is a world power. Ron is you know,

2520
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:47,880
Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle. So no score right now, we're

2521
02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:50,600
Speaker 1: in the thirty fifth minute. And what else happened earlier today?

2522
02:06:50,600 --> 02:06:54,600
Speaker 1: We had the Uruguay beats Saudi Arabia one nil, So

2523
02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:57,600
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, thanks for coming, but your third game really

2524
02:06:57,600 --> 02:07:01,240
Speaker 1: isn't going to mean much. They're own two, so and

2525
02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:03,240
Speaker 1: if they win their last game and get three points,

2526
02:07:03,280 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 1: it's probably not gonna be enough to get out of

2527
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:08,560
Speaker 1: their group. And Morocco lost. Morocco lost, Yes, who the

2528
02:07:08,600 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 1: heck did they play? Ahead run? How do I not

2529
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:15,280
Speaker 1: know they played? I can't even remember today. Oh Portugal, Right,

2530
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:18,560
Speaker 1: Ronaldo with the goal in the fourth minute. Right? Has

2531
02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:22,320
Speaker 1: the tournament been good so far? There have been entertaining games. Okay,

2532
02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:25,360
Speaker 1: you're in round robin play. All the games are not

2533
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:28,200
Speaker 1: going to be light the barn on fire. Yeah, And

2534
02:07:28,520 --> 02:07:31,120
Speaker 1: what happens is when you have such a lopsided mismatch,

2535
02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:37,160
Speaker 1: the team that knows its inferior is just they use

2536
02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:39,080
Speaker 1: the phrase park the bus. They're gonna park the bus

2537
02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:40,800
Speaker 1: in front of the net, meaning they're gonna put all

2538
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:44,760
Speaker 1: their players behind the ball. Try to defend and know

2539
02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:46,840
Speaker 1: that it's going to be very difficult to win, try

2540
02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:49,240
Speaker 1: to hold on for a tie. Basically, they're playing conservatively

2541
02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 1: and hope they can have a zero zero tie, which

2542
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:55,240
Speaker 1: is not great for the people watching. They don't really care,

2543
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:57,800
Speaker 1: you know. It's like the New Jersey Devil's neutral zone

2544
02:07:57,840 --> 02:08:01,200
Speaker 1: trap thing. It's horrible to watch, but he worked for them.

2545
02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:04,240
Speaker 1: They're hoping that they get the same thing. They're basically

2546
02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 1: playing for the tie, playing not to lose. When they

2547
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:08,440
Speaker 1: get out of the Dickturan approach. When they get out

2548
02:08:08,440 --> 02:08:12,120
Speaker 1: of this first round, what comes next? You have the

2549
02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:15,680
Speaker 1: knockout round, the final sixteen team teams, top two teams

2550
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:18,400
Speaker 1: from each group. It's one and done. One loss, you're out. Yep,

2551
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:20,960
Speaker 1: that's it. Thanks for coming, and it's seated. And that's

2552
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:23,720
Speaker 1: when the play really gets good because everything is on

2553
02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:27,280
Speaker 1: the line. You have to win to advance. The only

2554
02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:29,760
Speaker 1: thing that you know you do run into though, is

2555
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:32,720
Speaker 1: you're going to have thirty minutes of extra time after

2556
02:08:32,840 --> 02:08:35,480
Speaker 1: ninety minutes. If it's tied, they play two fifteen minute

2557
02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 1: halves after that, and then then it goes to Pek's um.

2558
02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:44,879
Speaker 1: It's seeded one place, sixteen, two place fifteen. I don't know. Basically,

2559
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:47,600
Speaker 1: you have the top teams in each group. Okay, I've

2560
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:50,440
Speaker 1: got to look at how they seed those, because you

2561
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:52,280
Speaker 1: know a one seed will play a two seed from

2562
02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:54,120
Speaker 1: another group, but one seed will play a two seed

2563
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:55,720
Speaker 1: from another group. I have to see how they break

2564
02:08:55,760 --> 02:08:57,640
Speaker 1: all that down. I've never really ever taken the time

2565
02:08:57,680 --> 02:09:00,160
Speaker 1: to look that up. I'm learning I'm wide open, and

2566
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:02,920
Speaker 1: somebody can convince me that World Cup is trying to

2567
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:05,440
Speaker 1: show you are not closed mind. I am not closed minded.

2568
02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:09,080
Speaker 1: I am open to this. NFL True or False, we

2569
02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:12,160
Speaker 1: do it every day. It has brought to you by Yancy's,

2570
02:09:12,160 --> 02:09:15,080
Speaker 1: Fancy New York's artists and Cheese. We spent out a

2571
02:09:15,160 --> 02:09:18,440
Speaker 1: couple of things that have appeared in the media NFL

2572
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:21,120
Speaker 1: notes and determine whether we think they are true or

2573
02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:23,840
Speaker 1: they are false. Here we go, NFL true or false.

2574
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:26,640
Speaker 1: The Browns haven't made the playoffs since two thousand and two.

2575
02:09:26,680 --> 02:09:28,840
Speaker 1: They got a playoff drought. What's the matter with them?

2576
02:09:28,920 --> 02:09:30,760
Speaker 1: How could you have a playoff drout that long since

2577
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:33,560
Speaker 1: two thousand and two. It's the longest streak in the NFL.

2578
02:09:34,040 --> 02:09:37,240
Speaker 1: But Brown's linebacker Christian Kirksey went to Twitter to proclaim

2579
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:39,720
Speaker 1: that they're gonna make it this year. His tweet, Christian

2580
02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:42,800
Speaker 1: Kirksey woke up this morning letting y'all know the Browns

2581
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:45,520
Speaker 1: will be in the playoffs this year. Remember this tweet Cleveland,

2582
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:49,040
Speaker 1: Kirksey said, Cleveland in the playoffs this year. According to

2583
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 1: a Christian Kirksey true false, Browns will make the playoffs.

2584
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:55,720
Speaker 1: What do you think, Chris, No, Okay, not happening. False.

2585
02:09:57,520 --> 02:10:00,520
Speaker 1: You know when you look at their schedule too, They've

2586
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:03,680
Speaker 1: got the NFC East this year. They got to play

2587
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:07,600
Speaker 1: the Steelers twice a year, and I think they're playing

2588
02:10:09,640 --> 02:10:11,680
Speaker 1: they playing the NFC East or the NFC North. Let

2589
02:10:11,720 --> 02:10:13,640
Speaker 1: me check. I think it's the NFC East they're playing

2590
02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:21,160
Speaker 1: they have this year. Hold on, they got AFC West.

2591
02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 1: That's their intra division NFC South. I take it back,

2592
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:28,840
Speaker 1: that might be worse. You gotta play the Falcons, the Panthers,

2593
02:10:29,280 --> 02:10:33,520
Speaker 1: the Saints, and the Bucks. It's your quarterback better than

2594
02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 1: any one of those four. No, you gotta play Philip Rivers,

2595
02:10:38,840 --> 02:10:45,400
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, Pat Mahomes, Andy Dalton. Can you ring the

2596
02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:47,720
Speaker 1: bell when we get a quarterback that their guy is

2597
02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:50,840
Speaker 1: better than? I mean, I don't see playoffs for them.

2598
02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:53,960
Speaker 1: I think four or five wins, maybe six, six would

2599
02:10:53,960 --> 02:10:56,160
Speaker 1: be a good year for them. Six wins. They go

2600
02:10:56,280 --> 02:10:57,800
Speaker 1: six and ten this year, that would be a big

2601
02:10:57,840 --> 02:10:59,680
Speaker 1: step forward for them. Might be sad to say for

2602
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:02,400
Speaker 1: most franchises, but for them, that would be a healthy

2603
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:05,680
Speaker 1: step forward. Six wins. Browns will not make the playoffs.

2604
02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:08,360
Speaker 1: That's clearly false, all right. Two or false. This is interesting.

2605
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:12,760
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. The NFL top one hundred continues these days,

2606
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:16,760
Speaker 1: and then the top ten Russell Wilson ranked number eleven.

2607
02:11:16,880 --> 02:11:19,800
Speaker 1: Not a top ten player in the NFL. Seahawks quarterback

2608
02:11:19,880 --> 02:11:24,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson true false. I say that's false. I think

2609
02:11:24,240 --> 02:11:26,920
Speaker 1: he's a top ten player. He's certainly one of the

2610
02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:30,280
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league, isn't he. I've seen him

2611
02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:32,520
Speaker 1: rank somewhere among the top three or four quarterbacks. Which

2612
02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:36,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks would you rather have than Russell Wilson? Brady okay,

2613
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:40,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Aaron Rodgers okay, Bet Roethlisberger Okay. I can live

2614
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:44,000
Speaker 1: with that. Anybody else Drew Bilees. Drew Brees, you said that,

2615
02:11:44,840 --> 02:11:47,320
Speaker 1: anybody else you'd rather have than Russell Wilson. How is

2616
02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:50,520
Speaker 1: he not a top ten play? Would you really have Stafford? No, Rivers,

2617
02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:53,240
Speaker 1: no Derek Carr, Russell Wilson. Who would you rather have?

2618
02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:58,160
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson Andrew Luck too much of a question, consummate leader,

2619
02:11:58,600 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, You'd rather have Russell Wilson. You can make

2620
02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:03,840
Speaker 1: an argument for Matt Ryan, but of course he's a

2621
02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:07,040
Speaker 1: top ten player. That's false. What do you think Chris, Yes,

2622
02:12:07,320 --> 02:12:10,760
Speaker 1: he's a top ten player. False. Okay, I don't think

2623
02:12:10,760 --> 02:12:12,880
Speaker 1: there's any debate about that. I mean, what what he

2624
02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:15,240
Speaker 1: gives you with his legs? And then I mean, people

2625
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:17,160
Speaker 1: forget two years ago, this guy led the league in

2626
02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:20,400
Speaker 1: passer rating. Think about who's in the league, you know,

2627
02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:24,240
Speaker 1: led the league in passer rating. I know that's not

2628
02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:26,640
Speaker 1: the end all be all, but would you if somebody

2629
02:12:26,720 --> 02:12:30,120
Speaker 1: told you name the quarterback in twenty sixteen who led

2630
02:12:30,160 --> 02:12:32,280
Speaker 1: the league in passer rating? Would you have guessed Russell Wilson.

2631
02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:36,360
Speaker 1: Probably not, but he's that good. He's that good, and

2632
02:12:36,680 --> 02:12:38,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to carry that team more than ever

2633
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:41,560
Speaker 1: because the defense, the legion of Boom that's over. You know,

2634
02:12:41,800 --> 02:12:45,040
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman's not there. Cam Chancellor was getting long in

2635
02:12:45,080 --> 02:12:47,120
Speaker 1: the tooth. Earl Thomas isn't what he used to be.

2636
02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:49,640
Speaker 1: This is a team that's going to be defined by

2637
02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:52,360
Speaker 1: what Russell Wilson does. That's what That's what this team

2638
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:54,400
Speaker 1: is going to be defined by going forward. Take that

2639
02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:56,839
Speaker 1: as false. He is a top ten player. Finally, NFL

2640
02:12:57,000 --> 02:12:59,760
Speaker 1: true or false? This deals with coating. This deals with

2641
02:13:00,080 --> 02:13:06,400
Speaker 1: post written by our buddy Andy Benoit at MMQB. This

2642
02:13:06,640 --> 02:13:09,720
Speaker 1: is an actually a something that you mentioned earlier on

2643
02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:12,240
Speaker 1: the show about the NFC West, Chris, and the question

2644
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:15,440
Speaker 1: is an NFL tour or false? Sean McVay, the Rams

2645
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:18,080
Speaker 1: versus Kyle Shanahan of the forty nine ers the best

2646
02:13:18,240 --> 02:13:21,160
Speaker 1: new coaching rivalry true false. You can go first, Chris.

2647
02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say true. Yeah. I think these are two

2648
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:27,200
Speaker 1: of the most progressive offensive play callers in the league,

2649
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:30,920
Speaker 1: and so I believe that that is going to be

2650
02:13:31,560 --> 02:13:34,480
Speaker 1: a very heated rivalry going forward. And the good thing

2651
02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:38,200
Speaker 1: is two of the best young offensive minds in the

2652
02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:43,360
Speaker 1: league have quarterbacks to work with. Now. McVeigh, to his credit,

2653
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:47,920
Speaker 1: simplified things for Jared Goff. Got you know what he

2654
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:51,240
Speaker 1: actually did. He got he would get Goff up to

2655
02:13:51,320 --> 02:13:55,200
Speaker 1: the line quickly before the fifteen second shut off in

2656
02:13:55,280 --> 02:13:57,320
Speaker 1: his headset and would talk to him about what he's

2657
02:13:57,320 --> 02:14:01,560
Speaker 1: seeing to help him diagnose defenses. That's pretty smart. Yeah,

2658
02:14:03,280 --> 02:14:06,120
Speaker 1: Shanahan did not do that with Garoppolo. But both of

2659
02:14:06,160 --> 02:14:09,000
Speaker 1: these guys are pretty sharp tacks when it comes to

2660
02:14:09,080 --> 02:14:12,640
Speaker 1: being cutting edge in offense in this league. And I

2661
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:15,920
Speaker 1: know for a fact just talking to a couple of

2662
02:14:16,120 --> 02:14:19,000
Speaker 1: reporters who have talked to their coaching staffs around the league,

2663
02:14:19,360 --> 02:14:23,960
Speaker 1: the offenses that are being most heavily reviewed and dissected

2664
02:14:24,640 --> 02:14:28,520
Speaker 1: to try to gather ideas for their own clubs, Los

2665
02:14:28,600 --> 02:14:31,640
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, San Francisco forty nine Ers. That's what Andy

2666
02:14:31,680 --> 02:14:33,720
Speaker 1: Benoit wrote about, and I agree with you. This is

2667
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:36,480
Speaker 1: the best new coaching rivalry, maybe one of the top

2668
02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:39,360
Speaker 1: rivalries in the game right now. Sean McVay of the

2669
02:14:39,480 --> 02:14:42,200
Speaker 1: Rams and Kyle shanahana the forty Niners. Andy Benoight wrote

2670
02:14:42,200 --> 02:14:45,920
Speaker 1: about it. He said, at the combine, Andy Benoit wrote this.

2671
02:14:46,000 --> 02:14:49,040
Speaker 1: He met with Benoit met with dozens of NFL head coaches,

2672
02:14:49,080 --> 02:14:53,200
Speaker 1: coordinators and assistants. Asked them, from a schematic standpoint, which

2673
02:14:53,360 --> 02:14:56,520
Speaker 1: offenses impressed you most last year? He said, This year,

2674
02:14:56,600 --> 02:14:59,400
Speaker 1: every coach cited the same two teams, the Rams and

2675
02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:03,360
Speaker 1: the forty nine. That's impressive. I didn't talk to that many.

2676
02:15:03,560 --> 02:15:05,160
Speaker 1: I didn't talk to that many people who talked to

2677
02:15:05,200 --> 02:15:07,280
Speaker 1: coaching staff, but it's nice to hear that that carries

2678
02:15:07,320 --> 02:15:09,840
Speaker 1: through with a far bigger sample size, with Andy covering

2679
02:15:09,840 --> 02:15:11,320
Speaker 1: a lot more ground than I did. He said, no

2680
02:15:11,360 --> 02:15:13,720
Speaker 1: one mentioned the Patriots, Saints, Falcon's chief. Some of the

2681
02:15:13,800 --> 02:15:16,240
Speaker 1: other great offenses, the Eagles came up, but it was

2682
02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:18,640
Speaker 1: the Rams and the forty nine Ers. Are these two?

2683
02:15:18,840 --> 02:15:22,200
Speaker 1: I do think they're more than just offensive savants, don't you.

2684
02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:24,960
Speaker 1: Mcveay and Shanahan. I do think they have a lot

2685
02:15:25,040 --> 02:15:27,600
Speaker 1: more to offer than just expertise on the offense. Was

2686
02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:31,560
Speaker 1: smart enough to hire, you know, a better and defensive

2687
02:15:31,600 --> 02:15:34,320
Speaker 1: coordinator in Wade Phillips. That was smart. No, know what

2688
02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:39,000
Speaker 1: your strengths are and fix your weaknesses with somebody else's expertise. Yeah, yeah,

2689
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:44,360
Speaker 1: and that's what he did. So but to him, I think, yeah,

2690
02:15:44,440 --> 02:15:46,400
Speaker 1: there's that who you hire in your staff. There's also

2691
02:15:47,200 --> 02:15:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, the tone you set, And it seems like

2692
02:15:49,160 --> 02:15:52,080
Speaker 1: both mcveay and the Rams and Shanahan the forty nine

2693
02:15:52,120 --> 02:15:54,840
Speaker 1: ers have set the right tone and created kind of

2694
02:15:54,880 --> 02:15:58,000
Speaker 1: a buzz around their teams. This takes me back to

2695
02:15:58,080 --> 02:15:59,720
Speaker 1: the coach that I'd like to trash the most and

2696
02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:02,720
Speaker 1: Gates of the Dolphins, who I think fails miserably in

2697
02:16:02,800 --> 02:16:05,920
Speaker 1: that regard. He also was an offensive expert. He also

2698
02:16:06,040 --> 02:16:08,480
Speaker 1: knows how to call plays and install an offense. I

2699
02:16:08,760 --> 02:16:11,000
Speaker 1: think that's all he knows how to do is to

2700
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:13,280
Speaker 1: stand there and call plays on the sideline. I don't

2701
02:16:14,080 --> 02:16:16,640
Speaker 1: if he has any aptitude on defense. It's not apparent

2702
02:16:17,080 --> 02:16:19,840
Speaker 1: if he has any sort of aptitude in terms of leadership.

2703
02:16:20,200 --> 02:16:21,960
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that for Madam Gays, but you do

2704
02:16:22,080 --> 02:16:24,919
Speaker 1: see it. I think from those two mcphah and Shanahan,

2705
02:16:25,040 --> 02:16:28,440
Speaker 1: I think they are much more the whole coach, the

2706
02:16:28,520 --> 02:16:31,040
Speaker 1: whole team coach than a guy like Adam Gayse, who

2707
02:16:31,200 --> 02:16:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, does a good job of the offense, I guess,

2708
02:16:33,120 --> 02:16:36,720
Speaker 1: and doesn't do much more. Not to this point, he hasn't.

2709
02:16:36,760 --> 02:16:40,080
Speaker 1: There's no there's no concrete evidence that he can do

2710
02:16:40,160 --> 02:16:42,800
Speaker 1: more than that. Yeah, with what has happened down in

2711
02:16:42,920 --> 02:16:44,960
Speaker 1: Miami now, I will say this, his first year on

2712
02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:48,440
Speaker 1: the job, they did an extraordinary job of grinding out

2713
02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:51,360
Speaker 1: wins and you know, playing to the end of games.

2714
02:16:51,680 --> 02:16:54,840
Speaker 1: The overtime game up here, notwithstanding, you know, when they

2715
02:16:54,879 --> 02:16:57,800
Speaker 1: outlasted the Bills who had ten men on the field

2716
02:16:57,840 --> 02:17:00,080
Speaker 1: at the most crucial point of the game. Yeah, so

2717
02:17:00,160 --> 02:17:01,560
Speaker 1: he did get a little bit of a gift there.

2718
02:17:01,640 --> 02:17:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you can almost look at that game and say,

2719
02:17:03,200 --> 02:17:05,959
Speaker 1: what the Bills took them to overtime when they probably

2720
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:08,200
Speaker 1: should shouldn't have been in the game and then you know,

2721
02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:11,560
Speaker 1: had a brain cramp. Yeah, actually a few brain cramps

2722
02:17:11,560 --> 02:17:15,920
Speaker 1: in that game. So I think he deserves some credit

2723
02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:19,240
Speaker 1: for that because that that season was a topsy turvy season.

2724
02:17:19,320 --> 02:17:24,000
Speaker 1: Matt Moore's playing games for them, so you know, good

2725
02:17:24,080 --> 02:17:28,520
Speaker 1: job there, But they took a step back last year

2726
02:17:28,560 --> 02:17:31,080
Speaker 1: and I think he lost players on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. There was strife in that locker room

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be interesting to see. This is a

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Speaker 1: giant ear for Adam Gase and I don't know that

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Speaker 1: he's got the horses to compete. So always a good

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Speaker 1: show for me when we get shots in on the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's a successful show given a business down there.

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Speaker 1: We're breaking, We're coming back. It is One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Chris Brown, this is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. What have we learned from today's show.

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Speaker 1: Bills we had Matthew Kler on the line from ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He covers of Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about teams that are switching quarterbacks this year,

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Speaker 1: and we kind of landed on Minnesota because they have

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in that big contract. Matthew Kler talking about

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Speaker 1: how the Vikings expectations for this season after a good

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Speaker 1: year last year, might impact Kirk Cousins this season. This

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Speaker 1: franchise is one of the most stable in the league.

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Speaker 1: You've got a coach who's been here for four years

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Speaker 1: and average ten wins a year despite having all the

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Speaker 1: turmoil at quarterback position. You know, You've got a general

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Speaker 1: manager who's been here a long time, very stable ownership

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Speaker 1: that's just built one hundred and twenty million dollars practice facility.

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Speaker 1: All those things I think will help Kirk Cousins. The

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Speaker 1: one thing, though, that he's gonna have this year that

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Speaker 1: he's never had before is a team that's expected to

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Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl, and anything less than an

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Speaker 1: NFC championship, which they achieved last year, is going to

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Speaker 1: be a disappointment. Yeah. I don't know that he's ever

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Speaker 1: faced anything quite like that. When you get paid like

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Speaker 1: he did, there's a whole new level of pressure. So

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like which one of these factors is

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Speaker 1: gonna win out. Is you're going to be more stable

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Speaker 1: and feel more comfortable and succeed, or is the pressure

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Speaker 1: going to get to them at times that if they

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Speaker 1: struggle a little bit good questions about Kirk Cousins will

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Speaker 1: find out. Our Twitter poll today the topic of the day,

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Speaker 1: which team with a new opening day starting quarterback like

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, Which will be most improved from last year?

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Speaker 1: We offered up three suggestions on Twitter, and then of

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Speaker 1: course had other on Twitter. Forty percent of I responded

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Speaker 1: said the Buffalo Bills most improved from last year. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna have probably are gonna have a different opening day

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Speaker 1: started this year. Thirty one percent said the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: That's where I would land. I think with the other

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Speaker 1: players they have there in a different starting quarterback, then

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Speaker 1: they can improve, you know, to its sizeable extent. I

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Speaker 1: believe this year. Fourteen percent say the Redskins with Alex Smith,

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Speaker 1: fifteen percent had somebody else in mind. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: participating in our Twitter poll. It was an interesting discussion, Chris.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple of qualification issues. You know,

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Speaker 1: does Jimmy Garoppolo count? He's different than last year started

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Speaker 1: for zad Andrew Luck. Does Andrew Luck count? You would

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Speaker 1: think they have a chance with Luck to get much

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Speaker 1: better a chance anyway, He's got to be healthy. But

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting and a lot of it,

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Speaker 1: especially when Minnesota and you heard Matthew Kyler talk about it.

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Speaker 1: When you think about most Improved, a lot of it

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Speaker 1: is expectations. You know, how good do you expect the

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Speaker 1: Vikings to be? How good do you expect the Colts

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Speaker 1: to be? Or the Denver Broncos. Right, that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what you bring into the discussion of most improved. I

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Speaker 1: think yeah, And I think those guys inherit the best

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Speaker 1: situations Keenham with a top five defense helping him out

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Speaker 1: and weapons on offense. And you know Minnesota, yes they

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Speaker 1: were a thirteen win team, but if they go two

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Speaker 1: further steps in the playoffs or actually one, they're in

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. So do you only need to make

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Speaker 1: the one last big step be a conference champion and

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Speaker 1: get to the championship game? Would you quantify that as

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Speaker 1: a bigger step than the Browns winning six or seven games?

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Speaker 1: I would is that the step that you needed to make?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's the last step. It's probably the hardest. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I would. I would take that.

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Speaker 1: I would say that's a bigger improvement. I would quantify

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Speaker 1: it as a bigger improvement than going from zero to

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Speaker 1: six wins. Yeah, and Chris. Yesterday's show, we talked about

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Speaker 1: the rookies. Are you're saying for the end of the show,

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Speaker 1: I am bosing up your laptop. My battery wasn't working

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Speaker 1: here for whatever reason. Stay, it's only a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready. Yesterday we talked about the first round quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: the five of them, including the Browns. Baker Mayfield, you

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Speaker 1: know who's going to start. Baker Mayfield had some interesting

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Speaker 1: things that he said on a radio show about the

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Speaker 1: guy had him on the depth chart former Builds quarterback

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. Yeah, I saw this. He said that Taylor's

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Speaker 1: been an incredible mentor to him. He was shocked that

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Speaker 1: the Browns were able to get him from the Bills

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Speaker 1: for just a third round. The quote from Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: they traded a third round pick to Tyrod just doesn't

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Speaker 1: make sense. We get a lot more out of that

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Speaker 1: than anybody else could. The guy that he is for

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Speaker 1: this franchise, for all of our teammates is unbelievable. For

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Speaker 1: me to watch him and learn him from him has

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Speaker 1: been great. He sets the bar high, shows up his

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Speaker 1: work ethic. It's a great situation for me to come into.

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Speaker 1: To have someone like that, it's good for me. That's

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield talking about his teammate, the guy ahead of

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Speaker 1: him on the depth chart. And then I thought this

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Speaker 1: was interesting. Just moments ago, former now former Bills center

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Speaker 1: retired Bills center Eric woodwagh in on that and said,

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Speaker 1: not surprised by this at all. I'm not either. I

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Speaker 1: think we all know that Tyrod's the consummate professional. From

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Speaker 1: all of the intangibles standpoints, you could come up with

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Speaker 1: leadership work ethic, you know, And I think Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean would agree one hundred percent. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: that that. That wasn't the reason at all as to

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Speaker 1: why the team moves on from Tyrod Taylor. It was

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Speaker 1: strictly a production and perform standpoint that they decided we

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Speaker 1: have to be better than thirty first in passing. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think they saw any higher ceiling for Tyrod

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Speaker 1: to reach. I think they came to the conclusion that

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Speaker 1: this is what he is. We need to do better,

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Speaker 1: so we will move on. For the Browns, they probably

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Speaker 1: see Tyrod Taylor as an upgrade from what they've had,

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Speaker 1: so he is better in their eyes, and that's where

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Speaker 1: it is. Chris is back with us tomorrow at twelve noon.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to our production assistant George Blast, Jeff Coltnick Thomas Honolder,

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Speaker 1: Jay Harris. We're back tomorrow at twelve noon. One Bill's

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