WEBVTT - Conversations About Vanity 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.360 Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.480 Sillers podcast with your host. Now, fuck that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:23.840 low classes. Malone Pete goal was the deal. There ain't one, 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.480 I ain't one. It all out of weather down there. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:30.320 It's nice, it cooled off. We got a little rain 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.240 last night and it's dipped down into the into the seventies. 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.560 So I have to get my jacket ready. Not dip 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:42.000 down into the seventies. Well, it didn't come up into 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:46.600 the seventies. I'll tell you that much. Here from one direction, 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.800 it's been so cold and at La we'll be getting 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:54.720 so much necessary water and rain, and all the aguaphers, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:59.080 all the aquifers are being refilled and replenished, the lakes, 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.680 all this one full water, you know what I mean, 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.039 because it's so overcrowded here. Now we're finally getting it 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:11.360 back and motherfucker's is still complaining that we are replenishing 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.640 all of the water. Yeah, people are going to be 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:16.440 mad about that. There's a lot of money in drought 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.920 in California. They're still withholding the water from a lot 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:24.479 of the Central Valley reservoirs. That's your boy. Your boy 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:29.560 is a mafia member who's that Governor Jesus ain't my boy, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:35.880 and he's the head of the you know what mafia. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.920 You can't go around saying that man might want your favor, 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.520 that whatever. He can come down here and try to 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.560 fight me through Ron. Ron gonna take his ass out, 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.960 and Ron don't play him, and Ron gonna line it up. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:51.400 Who'll win? Who will wear Newsome iron in the fade? Oh? 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.160 Ron all day. Ron's got that blue collar mentality. I 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:59.840 think that if I think that with Newsom, Newsom's a 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.680 kind of more defense. All the body work he go, 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.760 he go do all the body work early in the fight. 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:10.520 When I look at Newsom, he's the epitome of the 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.640 of the Mike Tyson quote. Everyone's got a plan until 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:18.440 they get punched in the face. And ronalds in the military. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.800 So Newsom is gonna be good with the jabs on 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.880 his feet, on his toes, bouncing, and Ron the Santus 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.519 is like Marvin Hagler, all body work, just to the 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.280 rough and tough body work. Just don't care, fell on 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:33.160 the way at the body, Rocky Marciano type stuff, all 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.800 of it. You know, none of these people got hands. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:40.840 You think they gonna rock our boy? Tomorrow they might. Yeah, 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.280 I think probably that motherfucker boy he gonna come out. 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:50.400 See came out and then they I thought in my mind, 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:54.320 if they locked Trump up, he need to be up 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.880 in Marlago, right and he needs to make sure they 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.840 come take him out of theory. They need he need 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:02.000 to make him raid the house. He can't do the 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:06.760 traditional white people meet down there, arrestue if he do that. 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.480 He missed the Conservatives no more. You hear about like 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:15.600 sort of like random like tiny offenses of like conservatives 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.360 that they like show up with like helicopters and full 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:24.839 blown like bulletproofessing like long rifle out. Trump gotta come 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.360 out spitting in the camera with his hands behind his 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:31.840 back like y'all can't fuck with me. I'm big tea. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.000 He gotta do all. He gotta go off like if 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.640 he don't come out and use this tupop moment, get me. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.120 He needed to have a fresh out on Bill. He 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.320 need to have a first day out speech, rode out 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.640 on bail speech Rod. He needs to have both of 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.200 them ships wrote like right now, it's funny he was 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.480 the guy who was starting to actually let some people 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:56.000 out of prison too. Kind of ironic. Yeah, yeah, I know, 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.120 code that go go crazy, code that gonna be like 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.440 out and lock the hum me up. Man, you better 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:03.800 I'm gonna lose some respect for him. If you don't, 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.520 is the wife Fo's gonna wild out? I don't think so. 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.040 I don't think they want to give everybody an excuse. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.760 You know, they understand the whole the whole trigonometry here 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.880 is to create a strain so that it's the same 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.720 thing like you're seeing like right now, like now the 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:27.240 paper works coming out more about January six, it's like, yeah, 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:31.400 there was dozens upon dozens of FBI agents there. They 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.080 released a small amount of the information in the videos. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:38.919 At first, there was paid agitators there. They wanted to 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:40.960 create a narrative that there's a group of people here, 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.440 this a problem, we're going to be extraordinarily heavy handed, 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.360 and we're gonna use, you know, to borrow a quote 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.599 from my man, George Gilder, emergency socialism, which is what 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.600 the playbook's been since mid twenty twenty. Yeah, I gotta 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:56.720 get you with a I need to see you in 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:02.800 the extreme left wing. Guy argue, Well, I don't think 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.040 you can use the term left wing we'll say left 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:09.280 wing person artist Yoh, you can't say left wing extremists. 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:19.280 You can't say guy. I'm a love it to get 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:23.640 in this hit because these white people politics shit is serious. Yeah, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.200 try to lay you trying to line me. I'm trying 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.640 to line to Crisp. I'm changing the name of human 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:40.039 beings to huge person beings. You're not a human anymore. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.880 You're a huge person. You're a huge partisan. You can't 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:48.919 say huge man. I saw somebody doing the fucking who 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.640 was it a fisherman? Was it fucking a deal? It 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.040 was somebody? It was so corny, but they was like, oh, 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:57.880 I grew up. I wanted to be a fisher person. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.040 They didn't want to say fisherman. It's like, I want 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.760 to be a fisher person. I don't like, Oh it 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:12.320 was Sam Smith because Sam Sam is way. You're the irony. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.560 This conversation to what I want to talk to you 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.039 about this shit just led right into it, right and 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:24.240 uh so no ceilings. Gl my man Peter in the 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:29.640 spot for me getting back to the intellectual, the intellectually 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:37.120 stimulating street and top dog conservative thoughts. Now, ye, I'm 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.760 not gonna say that it's glasses thoughts, because Peter, as 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.160 much as I think of you as a conservative, I 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:47.560 don't but you are a conservative person, but you're not. 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.040 You're really a futuristic person. So I don't even want 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.560 to label you that. So I'm not gonna do that 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.680 doing what we do. Listen, So we've changed the topic 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.720 from yesterday's pre topic. Yeah, fuck that, this ship was. 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.440 I'm gonna tell you why, because this ship was with me. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.320 We could do that too, though, we gonna do that. 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.000 We need we need it still for that. But okay, look, 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.760 so let me first get this off and then I'll 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.320 tell you how I came up with this thought. Okay, 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.320 but I saw Sam Smith talking, right and then I've 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.840 been looking at Sam Smith over the last twelve months. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:27.840 Right now, I was as an American, especially as a brother. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.640 I felt like I was early on Sam Smith. Like 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.680 I remember hearing a lot of his early stuff. I 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.760 was like, man, this this white boy could really sing, 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:38.720 like he has a really dope voice. And I found 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:42.640 out he was gay pretty early. You know, it didn't matter, 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:47.520 like you know, I mean like he's from England, he's white, 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.800 you know what I mean? Like that probably meaning you gay, 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.840 That means the person that comes to mind the most. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:54.400 You know what I'm saying, is Elton John. So that 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.720 means your music is gonna be pretty fucking outstanding, you 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:04.440 know you and Freddy and Mercury, George Michael. Yeah, they 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.360 have a white gave me in England is when it 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.960 comes to music and white gay men, they are batten 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.280 some shit them. Motherfucker's get busy. Freddy Mercury is out 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:19.680 fucking standing, Elton John is outstanding. Uh, George Michael, you 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.480 know what I'm saying, Like I fuck with George Michael. 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:26.840 I fum um so. I knew he was gay early 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.640 and I never gave a fuck. It was like this 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.040 motherfucker boy could sing like Dre b playing his motherfucking 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.640 the studio doctor dre plays saying Smith's music and it's 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.920 still there, like, yeah, this motherfucking tough. You know what 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.360 I mean, He tough, he gets busy. So I was 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:45.800 fucking with him. But over the twelve months, I've noticed 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:53.640 this weird shift where it's like it's greatly exaggerated. Now 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.080 I ain't gonna say it's greatly exaggerated because as an artist, 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.480 I can relate. I felt like I was holding back 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:04.640 a lot of things for a while, and now everybody 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:08.319 since two nineteen two POC must die. Moving forward, everybody's 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:12.120 just getting glasses pure, like there's no I'm not watering 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.720 it down. So maybe that's what Sam Smith is doing. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.360 He's not watering it down. But I've noticed over the 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.400 last twelve months with this conversation, y'all should looking up 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:25.160 where he doesn't want to say fisherman. He says like 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:31.640 fisher person, and it sounded so fucking lame, Like it 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.800 just was like, Bro, you can say fisherman. It don't 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:39.360 mean like you know, man. I get the thought behind it, 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.600 but that's just a waste of fucking time. And then 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:44.840 I saw him at the Award show where he was 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.840 like trying to like act like he was going to 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.840 Hell or addressed, like I guess his idea of evil 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.319 or the devil or whatever he thought he was doing. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.320 It just was fucking corny. It was just dumb. And 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:01.400 he was like provoking himself to be like sexy. I 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.320 think in his like I guess and gay and gay lord, 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.640 that's sexy. But it just, Bro, you're not a sexy person. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.480 I mean that, like you don't have the body that 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.920 gives off sexy person. You know what I mean. I'm 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.720 a straight man. But you know, I said if he 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.280 had abs or you know, shit like that. You know, 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.120 outside of that, it's just like, bro, you just sing 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.600 really good, you know what I mean, and you like 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:29.840 work that you seem good. Right. So, but I was 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:34.959 having a conversation with DJ Head and the conversation was 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:40.360 about Vanity and he was like, man, gee like, so 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.440 I called him first, I'm gonna look back to the 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:45.280 Saint Smith and loutle bit back in. I said, Man, 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.000 I was watching this documentary on Netflix. It's called M 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.120 three seventy. It's about the plane that disappeared, you know, 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:55.320 over there in Malaysia. Yeah, and I'm watching this whole 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.960 thing and it's like a dope on Netflix. Shout out 0:10:58.000 --> 0:10:59.680 to the people that produced it. Shout out to Netflix. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:03.280 That shit the fly. Netflix keep dropping them documentaries. Jab, 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.960 can we say it's fly? Is that insensitive? Low key? Right? 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.240 So I'm like, yo, this ship is hard, Like this 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.959 is a really good documentary. I thought it was great 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.000 and I'm like watching it. But what I noticed was 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:26.520 the arrogance of human beings. I was reminded of the 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:31.400 arrogance in human beings. The reason I'm saying that. So 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.240 I'm watching them, right, and they were saying, the plane right, 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:40.240 the pilot, something happened, the evidence the plane goes in 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:47.200 a different direction over the ocean. Yeah, And I'm this 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:51.480 is all the different people with the evidence, multiple governments, right, 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:55.679 it's Australian government, Chinese government, America, all the people Malaysia, 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.480 all these different governments who would never get alan to 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:02.120 make a scam like this work. Right. So they're like, 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.880 oh man, they're hiding information. They're hiding information. If they weren't, 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:09.080 we would have found the bodies, we would found all 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.680 the planes, all the debris. And I'm like, it hit 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.400 me how arrogant human beings are when it comes to 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:20.360 Planet Earth. The fact that motherfuckers don't realize that this 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.320 planet is mostly water and it's so much shit going 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.360 on that we do not know. But I think we 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:32.400 are convinced that we got this motherfucker mastered. That is 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:42.000 the root argument against the activist climate stabilization movement. I 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.839 think they think we got this shit mastered. And I'm like, so, 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.680 out of all these gallons of fucking water that's on 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.120 this motherfucking planet, you mean to tell me, it's hard 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.920 for you to believe that it would be tough to 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.959 find a plane if you didn't have the pinpoint local 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:04.560 to where it went down. Yeah, all this fucking water, 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.280 you mean it, which is moving by the way. Huh, 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.559 which is moving by the way. It's not like finding 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.080 something in an empty field. Yeah, it's like, it's not 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:19.880 like in a fish tank. Yes, motherfucker got currents anybody's 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.280 And they don't even And that's the point. They didn't 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:26.760 know where it was. They have an idea roughly of 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:32.400 where it could be by hundreds of miles, where it's 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.760 millions on top of billions of acres. I excuse me, 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:41.800 gallons of just fucking water. Just but the families of 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.520 the and you know, I get it, you know, it's 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.800 it's a trauma that goes with this shit. It's like, damn, 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.640 my family is gone. I'm sweating somebody, the Malaysian government, 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.760 fuck them. And I'm like, oh, like, this is not 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.200 nothing to do with the Malaysian government. They are not 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.120 the type of society that is sophisticated. I could see 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.800 if we're talking about the Mary, Russia, China, some really 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:07.439 sophisticated government too. Beyond some bullshit. But Malaysia is not. 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.280 That's not the thing, you know what I mean. They're 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.080 not like this crafty ass government of trying to hot shit, 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.920 lord knows, you know what I mean. Like this motherfucker 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:21.640 went into what probably would be water somewhere and everybody, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.200 the families was mad the news and mad. You guys 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.400 are hot, Like they knew where the plane was at 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:30.840 and was just fucking lying. That's how much the average 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.400 human being trust governments to where they think they are 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.320 all knowing, Like we really think we got this motherfucking 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:44.840 marble mastered. Yeah, that's the nerve of human beings to 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:49.239 think that they have this planet mastered and under control. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:55.360 It's fucking hilarious to me. Louke back around to getting 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.040 back to Sam Smith. So I'm telling him, I'm like, man, Hen, 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.720 you need to wash this. He like, gee, most human beings, 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:06.480 you know, exhibit some sense of vanity. He was like, 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:10.120 you have to, he says, especially the business win And 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:14.040 I'm like, you think most artists have to be He's like, yeah, 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:19.040 because it requires people have to think, see you believe 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.320 in yourself, because they live vicariously through you. They either 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.200 need to see that you believe in yourself and it 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.400 makes them believe in their self or they need to 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:32.040 hate the fact you believe in yourself so much. And 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.360 he said, it's the way to create. And this is 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.520 something I've always told him about polarity where you're you're 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.080 not in the space of indifference. You know what I mean? 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:46.200 You people love you or hate you? Yeah, right, because 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:50.440 you exhibit so much vanity, Like everything about is this 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:55.720 excessive pride and um looping back to Sam Smith, I 0:15:55.800 --> 0:16:00.400 think that's what's happening with him, where he's going out 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:06.680 of his way right to exhibit a certainty about lifestyle 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.520 that he's living to where he's just over the top 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:14.640 with a goal of hoping it emotionally moves the audience 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:22.040 one way or another. Now it's vanity because do I 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.760 believe he's around his life saying fisher person. Fuck? No, 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.040 fuck is a fisher person. You know what I'm saying. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:35.680 But it just made me think, like, damn, it's vanity 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:42.560 a necessary thing because when we're trying to advance, or 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.280 when we're trying to get human beings to buy into 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:51.120 us and believe in us. Yeah, if you're just selling yourself, sure, 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.200 I mean, it's even true in boxing. I mean, the 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.640 best boxers are the ones with the greatest aura. You know, 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.200 especially from a ticket standpoint, you know, you always see it. 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:05.960 The guy who's who projects the most amusement of some 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:10.960 variety or another get the nod as being considered greater 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.760 than the quiet guy you never really see talk. And 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.080 he's worth more money and he has more eyes on him. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.240 And it's true with that. It's true with music, is 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:22.440 true in a lot of areas. Do you think it's 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.440 for the same reasons that he'd think that people live 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:31.080 vicariously through it and they know golds and villains. Yep. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:37.040 Mike Tyson was unbelievably popular because he personified the courage 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:46.160 that everybody else wishes they had. Mike Tyson never looked 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:50.439 scared once. He scared everybody else, and he was scared 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.440 the whole time. He talks about it all the time, 0:17:53.359 --> 0:18:01.280 but he wasn't talking about it then, Fluemewe. It does 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.120 speak about himself and a third person all the time. 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.800 He does. Who was the greatest boxer of the nineteen 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.880 sixties and seventies was Muhammed Ali by a mile. Muhammed 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.159 Ali split with a lot of fighters, but he was 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:18.680 the one you remember. I mean he certainly you remember 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.040 him a ship ton more than you remember Larry Holmes 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.840 to that much. I mean, like for his the degree 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:34.040 of historical impact of Ali versus Holmes is certainly exponentially 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:39.639 larger than the degree of ability as boxers. And not 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.359 to say Holmes is that close to being Muhammed Ali 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.480 as a boxer, But they're not seventeen light years apart. 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.679 Like the one guy everybody knows the other one you 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.520 have to really be in the boxing even rememberho the 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.000 hell he was. They're not that far apart. But let 0:18:52.040 --> 0:19:00.479 me ask you a question, Okay, why don't people like 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:03.399 us need that like to be a fan like I 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:07.600 think Scarface is. Now, maybe I don't know Scarface, but 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:11.119 from a fanatic perspective, because I'm a fan of Scarface. 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:16.160 I don't think I ever got vanity from him, No, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:20.640 but I think I got more vulnerability, And that's kind 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:25.520 of what made me. Really, you know, there were times 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.480 where his certain words where I felt like he dealt 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.399 with things. He'll have a song like Never right on 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.640 scar Face as of an album called Made, And there's 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.720 a song called Never, and the song is I will 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.880 never violate the code to the streets, and I will 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.400 never make a promise that I know I couldn't keep 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:49.679 shit like that, just real simple human being traits. Hi, 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.000 I'm saying of greatness as far as how you know 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.480 I would. I try to be as a person, you 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.080 know what I'm saying. So I don't think he was 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.800 over the top like Bragger, Oh she's I don't think 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.680 I ever care. So why is it people like us 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.000 like I think I know how close Larry Holmes is 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:09.600 Tom Muhammad Ali as a fighter? Right? Why do I 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:13.119 not need to buy vanity like the average person? Is 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.240 it because I don't lack confidence in myself? Or I 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:19.640 don't What is it? I think it's a number of things. 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:23.360 I think for your average person, it's easier to dream 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:28.600 than to be. And I also think that, Yeah, people 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.800 who are self assured, like I'm not ultra confident. I 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.720 know what my strengths are, I know what my weaknesses are. 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.560 I understand that I'm honest with myself about it. And 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.640 you want to talk shit about everything I failed to do. Yeah, 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:46.840 I'm well aware. Yeah it's I'm not. Oh my god, 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.440 you knowing my squawked by is We're just got in 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.919 the world. Yeah, he is. I'm not, that's the end 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.439 of it. Yeah, But I think a lot of people 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.439 a lot of themselves about who they are, you know, 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.119 that's for sure. And there's a lot of people that 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:09.280 just for a minute, I want to pretend. Man, I 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:13.600 wish that I was not the guy with these two 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.480 of the settle of seven deadly sins that I have 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:17.119 that I'm aware of that I don't like. And man, 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:19.200 that guy over there, he doesn't have any of those. 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:27.160 He is great. When does confidence become vanity? When does 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:32.000 he become excessive? He ever thought about that? Yeah, I 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:41.800 think that when it goes from literal to theatrical, literal 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:48.679 to theatrical. Yeah, I mean like a guy saying I'm 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:55.199 the I am the best welterweight in the world today, 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.239 I am the greatest pound for pound fighter that has 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:04.280 ever walked this earth, you know, and guys say the latter. 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.199 But do guys said that usually are not even in 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:16.160 the running. Like, let's take it out of boxing, let's 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:19.240 go back into hip hop. Yeah, when Little Wayne says 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:26.200 I'm the greatest rapper alive, right, not the greatest rapper 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:30.120 of solf I'm the greatest rapper alive. Is that vanity 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.840 at that point? Or is that him marketing? Or is 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:36.840 marketing vanity? Is that him marketing? This is what I 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.000 want you to think, and then I'm gonna put in 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:43.360 the work for this to be a consideration. I don't 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:47.800 think marketing is vanity. I think vanity is marketed. And 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.960 I think in a lot of cases, particularly hip hop 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:54.320 has to do more with like the optics. So if 0:22:54.359 --> 0:23:00.280 Wayne comes out with Wayne's not maybe a great ample 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:05.120 because for a run he really was it. For sure, 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.640 there's a real conversation about Little Wayne being the greatest 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:12.400 you know, hip hop artist, rapper of all time. Yeah, 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:16.200 there is a really real there's certainly a subjective case. 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:19.560 If I was his lawyer and I and I had 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:22.720 to defend his case, I'd have a fucking briefcase full 0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:25.520 of shit it. It'd be tough for a jury to 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.359 not Yeah, I mean like, it'd be tough for for 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:31.639 a jury to not hear hear my thoughts and and 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:37.919 you know, vote my way. Yeah. Yeah, I think maybe 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.600 more like And there's kind of the difference between because 0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:44.439 it's hard talking about rappers because certain rappers, like the rapper, 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:49.879 the artist and the guy aren't always quite so close, 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:55.600 you know what I mean. But I would say, you know, 0:23:55.640 --> 0:24:00.639 when you're talking about vanity, it's like like Rick Ross 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:04.159 type of proclamations, you know, of either things you intend 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:10.200 to do or like stuff that you like. He didn't. 0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:13.960 Rick never said I I moved five birds and whatever. No, 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:22.320 he says something about he's friends with Noriega, the real Noriega, 0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:27.040 you know what I mean. Like, that's a lot. It's 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:35.359 definitely a lot. It's definitely a lot. But but so 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:40.040 so is that vanity being marketed or is that really 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:45.679 just storytelling? You know what I mean? Like is that 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.639 just him? Like when is it okay to tell a 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.639 story about anything? Let's say you're trying to convey ideas 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:58.400 to the general public. Like, right, I've had this conversation where, like, 0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.280 my whole career is I've been pretty much just keeping 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:05.240 it straight on course, probably up to two thousand and eighteen, 0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:09.520 I've just pretty much said exactly what out what it was. 0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:14.200 But what I realized was the average audience is so 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.560 disconnected from culture, you know, I mean from the culture 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:21.840 that we were talking about. That this has been said 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.639 so many times that's not even special with like they 0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.640 can't even get into the story because they're like, okay, 0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:31.800 blah blah blah, versus exaggerating the idea so people can 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:36.560 come to the conclusion of what's simple. I mean, like 0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:40.119 what it is Like this is gonna sound crazy, but 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.640 it's simple. Like right, Like what I started doing was 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.800 I would always wear glasses, right, but when I got 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:49.320 these really big glasses. Now, these glasses is four hundred dollars. 0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:52.399 They not cheap glasses, but they don't look like they 0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:56.440 cost some money, right, which is you know, my glasses, right, 0:25:56.480 --> 0:26:00.359 So I realized that when people said my name, I 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.480 need that. T Paine told me this a long time ago. 0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:04.199 He's like, hey man, your name is glasses and you 0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:08.119 will not wear glasses. That's crazy. And when I finally 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.199 got them, I will wear glasses, but you just couldn't 0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:14.919 tell until I got these really big ass glasses. And 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.119