Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no
Speaker 1: Sillers podcast with your host. Now, fuck that with your
Speaker 1: low classes. Malone Pete goal was the deal. There ain't one,
Speaker 1: I ain't one. It all out of weather down there.
Speaker 1: It's nice, it cooled off. We got a little rain
Speaker 1: last night and it's dipped down into the into the seventies.
Speaker 1: So I have to get my jacket ready. Not dip
Speaker 1: down into the seventies. Well, it didn't come up into
Speaker 1: the seventies. I'll tell you that much. Here from one direction,
Speaker 1: it's been so cold and at La we'll be getting
Speaker 1: so much necessary water and rain, and all the aguaphers,
Speaker 1: all the aquifers are being refilled and replenished, the lakes,
Speaker 1: all this one full water, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because it's so overcrowded here. Now we're finally getting it
Speaker 1: back and motherfucker's is still complaining that we are replenishing
Speaker 1: all of the water. Yeah, people are going to be
Speaker 1: mad about that. There's a lot of money in drought
Speaker 1: in California. They're still withholding the water from a lot
Speaker 1: of the Central Valley reservoirs. That's your boy. Your boy
Speaker 1: is a mafia member who's that Governor Jesus ain't my boy,
Speaker 1: and he's the head of the you know what mafia.
Speaker 1: You can't go around saying that man might want your favor,
Speaker 1: that whatever. He can come down here and try to
Speaker 1: fight me through Ron. Ron gonna take his ass out,
Speaker 1: and Ron don't play him, and Ron gonna line it up.
Speaker 1: Who'll win? Who will wear Newsome iron in the fade? Oh?
Speaker 1: Ron all day. Ron's got that blue collar mentality. I
Speaker 1: think that if I think that with Newsom, Newsom's a
Speaker 1: kind of more defense. All the body work he go,
Speaker 1: he go do all the body work early in the fight.
Speaker 1: When I look at Newsom, he's the epitome of the
Speaker 1: of the Mike Tyson quote. Everyone's got a plan until
Speaker 1: they get punched in the face. And ronalds in the military.
Speaker 1: So Newsom is gonna be good with the jabs on
Speaker 1: his feet, on his toes, bouncing, and Ron the Santus
Speaker 1: is like Marvin Hagler, all body work, just to the
Speaker 1: rough and tough body work. Just don't care, fell on
Speaker 1: the way at the body, Rocky Marciano type stuff, all
Speaker 1: of it. You know, none of these people got hands.
Speaker 1: You think they gonna rock our boy? Tomorrow they might. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think probably that motherfucker boy he gonna come out.
Speaker 1: See came out and then they I thought in my mind,
Speaker 1: if they locked Trump up, he need to be up
Speaker 1: in Marlago, right and he needs to make sure they
Speaker 1: come take him out of theory. They need he need
Speaker 1: to make him raid the house. He can't do the
Speaker 1: traditional white people meet down there, arrestue if he do that.
Speaker 1: He missed the Conservatives no more. You hear about like
Speaker 1: sort of like random like tiny offenses of like conservatives
Speaker 1: that they like show up with like helicopters and full
Speaker 1: blown like bulletproofessing like long rifle out. Trump gotta come
Speaker 1: out spitting in the camera with his hands behind his
Speaker 1: back like y'all can't fuck with me. I'm big tea.
Speaker 1: He gotta do all. He gotta go off like if
Speaker 1: he don't come out and use this tupop moment, get me.
Speaker 1: He needed to have a fresh out on Bill. He
Speaker 1: need to have a first day out speech, rode out
Speaker 1: on bail speech Rod. He needs to have both of
Speaker 1: them ships wrote like right now, it's funny he was
Speaker 1: the guy who was starting to actually let some people
Speaker 1: out of prison too. Kind of ironic. Yeah, yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: code that go go crazy, code that gonna be like
Speaker 1: out and lock the hum me up. Man, you better
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose some respect for him. If you don't,
Speaker 1: is the wife Fo's gonna wild out? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to give everybody an excuse.
Speaker 1: You know, they understand the whole the whole trigonometry here
Speaker 1: is to create a strain so that it's the same
Speaker 1: thing like you're seeing like right now, like now the
Speaker 1: paper works coming out more about January six, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there was dozens upon dozens of FBI agents there. They
Speaker 1: released a small amount of the information in the videos.
Speaker 1: At first, there was paid agitators there. They wanted to
Speaker 1: create a narrative that there's a group of people here,
Speaker 1: this a problem, we're going to be extraordinarily heavy handed,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna use, you know, to borrow a quote
Speaker 1: from my man, George Gilder, emergency socialism, which is what
Speaker 1: the playbook's been since mid twenty twenty. Yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: get you with a I need to see you in
Speaker 1: the extreme left wing. Guy argue, Well, I don't think
Speaker 1: you can use the term left wing we'll say left
Speaker 1: wing person artist Yoh, you can't say left wing extremists.
Speaker 1: You can't say guy. I'm a love it to get
Speaker 1: in this hit because these white people politics shit is serious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: try to lay you trying to line me. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to line to Crisp. I'm changing the name of human
Speaker 1: beings to huge person beings. You're not a human anymore.
Speaker 1: You're a huge person. You're a huge partisan. You can't
Speaker 1: say huge man. I saw somebody doing the fucking who
Speaker 1: was it a fisherman? Was it fucking a deal? It
Speaker 1: was somebody? It was so corny, but they was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I grew up. I wanted to be a fisher person.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to say fisherman. It's like, I want
Speaker 1: to be a fisher person. I don't like, Oh it
Speaker 1: was Sam Smith because Sam Sam is way. You're the irony.
Speaker 1: This conversation to what I want to talk to you
Speaker 1: about this shit just led right into it, right and
Speaker 1: uh so no ceilings. Gl my man Peter in the
Speaker 1: spot for me getting back to the intellectual, the intellectually
Speaker 1: stimulating street and top dog conservative thoughts. Now, ye, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say that it's glasses thoughts, because Peter, as
Speaker 1: much as I think of you as a conservative, I
Speaker 1: don't but you are a conservative person, but you're not.
Speaker 1: You're really a futuristic person. So I don't even want
Speaker 1: to label you that. So I'm not gonna do that
Speaker 1: doing what we do. Listen, So we've changed the topic
Speaker 1: from yesterday's pre topic. Yeah, fuck that, this ship was.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why, because this ship was with me.
Speaker 1: We could do that too, though, we gonna do that.
Speaker 1: We need we need it still for that. But okay, look,
Speaker 1: so let me first get this off and then I'll
Speaker 1: tell you how I came up with this thought. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I saw Sam Smith talking, right and then I've
Speaker 1: been looking at Sam Smith over the last twelve months.
Speaker 1: Right now, I was as an American, especially as a brother.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was early on Sam Smith. Like
Speaker 1: I remember hearing a lot of his early stuff. I
Speaker 1: was like, man, this this white boy could really sing,
Speaker 1: like he has a really dope voice. And I found
Speaker 1: out he was gay pretty early. You know, it didn't matter,
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean like he's from England, he's white,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that probably meaning you gay,
Speaker 1: That means the person that comes to mind the most.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, is Elton John. So that
Speaker 1: means your music is gonna be pretty fucking outstanding, you
Speaker 1: know you and Freddy and Mercury, George Michael. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: have a white gave me in England is when it
Speaker 1: comes to music and white gay men, they are batten
Speaker 1: some shit them. Motherfucker's get busy. Freddy Mercury is out
Speaker 1: fucking standing, Elton John is outstanding. Uh, George Michael, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I fuck with George Michael.
Speaker 1: I fum um so. I knew he was gay early
Speaker 1: and I never gave a fuck. It was like this
Speaker 1: motherfucker boy could sing like Dre b playing his motherfucking
Speaker 1: the studio doctor dre plays saying Smith's music and it's
Speaker 1: still there, like, yeah, this motherfucking tough. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, He tough, he gets busy. So I was
Speaker 1: fucking with him. But over the twelve months, I've noticed
Speaker 1: this weird shift where it's like it's greatly exaggerated. Now
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say it's greatly exaggerated because as an artist,
Speaker 1: I can relate. I felt like I was holding back
Speaker 1: a lot of things for a while, and now everybody
Speaker 1: since two nineteen two POC must die. Moving forward, everybody's
Speaker 1: just getting glasses pure, like there's no I'm not watering
Speaker 1: it down. So maybe that's what Sam Smith is doing.
Speaker 1: He's not watering it down. But I've noticed over the
Speaker 1: last twelve months with this conversation, y'all should looking up
Speaker 1: where he doesn't want to say fisherman. He says like
Speaker 1: fisher person, and it sounded so fucking lame, Like it
Speaker 1: just was like, Bro, you can say fisherman. It don't
Speaker 1: mean like you know, man. I get the thought behind it,
Speaker 1: but that's just a waste of fucking time. And then
Speaker 1: I saw him at the Award show where he was
Speaker 1: like trying to like act like he was going to
Speaker 1: Hell or addressed, like I guess his idea of evil
Speaker 1: or the devil or whatever he thought he was doing.
Speaker 1: It just was fucking corny. It was just dumb. And
Speaker 1: he was like provoking himself to be like sexy. I
Speaker 1: think in his like I guess and gay and gay lord,
Speaker 1: that's sexy. But it just, Bro, you're not a sexy person.
Speaker 1: I mean that, like you don't have the body that
Speaker 1: gives off sexy person. You know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: a straight man. But you know, I said if he
Speaker 1: had abs or you know, shit like that. You know,
Speaker 1: outside of that, it's just like, bro, you just sing
Speaker 1: really good, you know what I mean, and you like
Speaker 1: work that you seem good. Right. So, but I was
Speaker 1: having a conversation with DJ Head and the conversation was
Speaker 1: about Vanity and he was like, man, gee like, so
Speaker 1: I called him first, I'm gonna look back to the
Speaker 1: Saint Smith and loutle bit back in. I said, Man,
Speaker 1: I was watching this documentary on Netflix. It's called M
Speaker 1: three seventy. It's about the plane that disappeared, you know,
Speaker 1: over there in Malaysia. Yeah, and I'm watching this whole
Speaker 1: thing and it's like a dope on Netflix. Shout out
Speaker 1: to the people that produced it. Shout out to Netflix.
Speaker 1: That shit the fly. Netflix keep dropping them documentaries. Jab,
Speaker 1: can we say it's fly? Is that insensitive? Low key? Right?
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yo, this ship is hard, Like this
Speaker 1: is a really good documentary. I thought it was great
Speaker 1: and I'm like watching it. But what I noticed was
Speaker 1: the arrogance of human beings. I was reminded of the
Speaker 1: arrogance in human beings. The reason I'm saying that. So
Speaker 1: I'm watching them, right, and they were saying, the plane right,
Speaker 1: the pilot, something happened, the evidence the plane goes in
Speaker 1: a different direction over the ocean. Yeah, And I'm this
Speaker 1: is all the different people with the evidence, multiple governments, right,
Speaker 1: it's Australian government, Chinese government, America, all the people Malaysia,
Speaker 1: all these different governments who would never get alan to
Speaker 1: make a scam like this work. Right. So they're like,
Speaker 1: oh man, they're hiding information. They're hiding information. If they weren't,
Speaker 1: we would have found the bodies, we would found all
Speaker 1: the planes, all the debris. And I'm like, it hit
Speaker 1: me how arrogant human beings are when it comes to
Speaker 1: Planet Earth. The fact that motherfuckers don't realize that this
Speaker 1: planet is mostly water and it's so much shit going
Speaker 1: on that we do not know. But I think we
Speaker 1: are convinced that we got this motherfucker mastered. That is
Speaker 1: the root argument against the activist climate stabilization movement. I
Speaker 1: think they think we got this shit mastered. And I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: out of all these gallons of fucking water that's on
Speaker 1: this motherfucking planet, you mean to tell me, it's hard
Speaker 1: for you to believe that it would be tough to
Speaker 1: find a plane if you didn't have the pinpoint local
Speaker 1: to where it went down. Yeah, all this fucking water,
Speaker 1: you mean it, which is moving by the way. Huh,
Speaker 1: which is moving by the way. It's not like finding
Speaker 1: something in an empty field. Yeah, it's like, it's not
Speaker 1: like in a fish tank. Yes, motherfucker got currents anybody's
Speaker 1: And they don't even And that's the point. They didn't
Speaker 1: know where it was. They have an idea roughly of
Speaker 1: where it could be by hundreds of miles, where it's
Speaker 1: millions on top of billions of acres. I excuse me,
Speaker 1: gallons of just fucking water. Just but the families of
Speaker 1: the and you know, I get it, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a trauma that goes with this shit. It's like, damn,
Speaker 1: my family is gone. I'm sweating somebody, the Malaysian government,
Speaker 1: fuck them. And I'm like, oh, like, this is not
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the Malaysian government. They are not
Speaker 1: the type of society that is sophisticated. I could see
Speaker 1: if we're talking about the Mary, Russia, China, some really
Speaker 1: sophisticated government too. Beyond some bullshit. But Malaysia is not.
Speaker 1: That's not the thing, you know what I mean. They're
Speaker 1: not like this crafty ass government of trying to hot shit,
Speaker 1: lord knows, you know what I mean. Like this motherfucker
Speaker 1: went into what probably would be water somewhere and everybody,
Speaker 1: the families was mad the news and mad. You guys
Speaker 1: are hot, Like they knew where the plane was at
Speaker 1: and was just fucking lying. That's how much the average
Speaker 1: human being trust governments to where they think they are
Speaker 1: all knowing, Like we really think we got this motherfucking
Speaker 1: marble mastered. Yeah, that's the nerve of human beings to
Speaker 1: think that they have this planet mastered and under control.
Speaker 1: It's fucking hilarious to me. Louke back around to getting
Speaker 1: back to Sam Smith. So I'm telling him, I'm like, man, Hen,
Speaker 1: you need to wash this. He like, gee, most human beings,
Speaker 1: you know, exhibit some sense of vanity. He was like,
Speaker 1: you have to, he says, especially the business win And
Speaker 1: I'm like, you think most artists have to be He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it requires people have to think, see you believe
Speaker 1: in yourself, because they live vicariously through you. They either
Speaker 1: need to see that you believe in yourself and it
Speaker 1: makes them believe in their self or they need to
Speaker 1: hate the fact you believe in yourself so much. And
Speaker 1: he said, it's the way to create. And this is
Speaker 1: something I've always told him about polarity where you're you're
Speaker 1: not in the space of indifference. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You people love you or hate you? Yeah, right, because
Speaker 1: you exhibit so much vanity, Like everything about is this
Speaker 1: excessive pride and um looping back to Sam Smith, I
Speaker 1: think that's what's happening with him, where he's going out
Speaker 1: of his way right to exhibit a certainty about lifestyle
Speaker 1: that he's living to where he's just over the top
Speaker 1: with a goal of hoping it emotionally moves the audience
Speaker 1: one way or another. Now it's vanity because do I
Speaker 1: believe he's around his life saying fisher person. Fuck? No,
Speaker 1: fuck is a fisher person. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it just made me think, like, damn, it's vanity
Speaker 1: a necessary thing because when we're trying to advance, or
Speaker 1: when we're trying to get human beings to buy into
Speaker 1: us and believe in us. Yeah, if you're just selling yourself, sure,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's even true in boxing. I mean, the
Speaker 1: best boxers are the ones with the greatest aura. You know,
Speaker 1: especially from a ticket standpoint, you know, you always see it.
Speaker 1: The guy who's who projects the most amusement of some
Speaker 1: variety or another get the nod as being considered greater
Speaker 1: than the quiet guy you never really see talk. And
Speaker 1: he's worth more money and he has more eyes on him.
Speaker 1: And it's true with that. It's true with music, is
Speaker 1: true in a lot of areas. Do you think it's
Speaker 1: for the same reasons that he'd think that people live
Speaker 1: vicariously through it and they know golds and villains. Yep.
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson was unbelievably popular because he personified the courage
Speaker 1: that everybody else wishes they had. Mike Tyson never looked
Speaker 1: scared once. He scared everybody else, and he was scared
Speaker 1: the whole time. He talks about it all the time,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't talking about it then, Fluemewe. It does
Speaker 1: speak about himself and a third person all the time.
Speaker 1: He does. Who was the greatest boxer of the nineteen
Speaker 1: sixties and seventies was Muhammed Ali by a mile. Muhammed
Speaker 1: Ali split with a lot of fighters, but he was
Speaker 1: the one you remember. I mean he certainly you remember
Speaker 1: him a ship ton more than you remember Larry Holmes
Speaker 1: to that much. I mean, like for his the degree
Speaker 1: of historical impact of Ali versus Holmes is certainly exponentially
Speaker 1: larger than the degree of ability as boxers. And not
Speaker 1: to say Holmes is that close to being Muhammed Ali
Speaker 1: as a boxer, But they're not seventeen light years apart.
Speaker 1: Like the one guy everybody knows the other one you
Speaker 1: have to really be in the boxing even rememberho the
Speaker 1: hell he was. They're not that far apart. But let
Speaker 1: me ask you a question, Okay, why don't people like
Speaker 1: us need that like to be a fan like I
Speaker 1: think Scarface is. Now, maybe I don't know Scarface, but
Speaker 1: from a fanatic perspective, because I'm a fan of Scarface.
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever got vanity from him, No,
Speaker 1: but I think I got more vulnerability, And that's kind
Speaker 1: of what made me. Really, you know, there were times
Speaker 1: where his certain words where I felt like he dealt
Speaker 1: with things. He'll have a song like Never right on
Speaker 1: scar Face as of an album called Made, And there's
Speaker 1: a song called Never, and the song is I will
Speaker 1: never violate the code to the streets, and I will
Speaker 1: never make a promise that I know I couldn't keep
Speaker 1: shit like that, just real simple human being traits. Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm saying of greatness as far as how you know
Speaker 1: I would. I try to be as a person, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I don't think he was
Speaker 1: over the top like Bragger, Oh she's I don't think
Speaker 1: I ever care. So why is it people like us
Speaker 1: like I think I know how close Larry Holmes is
Speaker 1: Tom Muhammad Ali as a fighter? Right? Why do I
Speaker 1: not need to buy vanity like the average person? Is
Speaker 1: it because I don't lack confidence in myself? Or I
Speaker 1: don't What is it? I think it's a number of things.
Speaker 1: I think for your average person, it's easier to dream
Speaker 1: than to be. And I also think that, Yeah, people
Speaker 1: who are self assured, like I'm not ultra confident. I
Speaker 1: know what my strengths are, I know what my weaknesses are.
Speaker 1: I understand that I'm honest with myself about it. And
Speaker 1: you want to talk shit about everything I failed to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm well aware. Yeah it's I'm not. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you knowing my squawked by is We're just got in
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, he is. I'm not, that's the end
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, But I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: a lot of themselves about who they are, you know,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. And there's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: just for a minute, I want to pretend. Man, I
Speaker 1: wish that I was not the guy with these two
Speaker 1: of the settle of seven deadly sins that I have
Speaker 1: that I'm aware of that I don't like. And man,
Speaker 1: that guy over there, he doesn't have any of those.
Speaker 1: He is great. When does confidence become vanity? When does
Speaker 1: he become excessive? He ever thought about that? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that when it goes from literal to theatrical, literal
Speaker 1: to theatrical. Yeah, I mean like a guy saying I'm
Speaker 1: the I am the best welterweight in the world today,
Speaker 1: I am the greatest pound for pound fighter that has
Speaker 1: ever walked this earth, you know, and guys say the latter.
Speaker 1: But do guys said that usually are not even in
Speaker 1: the running. Like, let's take it out of boxing, let's
Speaker 1: go back into hip hop. Yeah, when Little Wayne says
Speaker 1: I'm the greatest rapper alive, right, not the greatest rapper
Speaker 1: of solf I'm the greatest rapper alive. Is that vanity
Speaker 1: at that point? Or is that him marketing? Or is
Speaker 1: marketing vanity? Is that him marketing? This is what I
Speaker 1: want you to think, and then I'm gonna put in
Speaker 1: the work for this to be a consideration. I don't
Speaker 1: think marketing is vanity. I think vanity is marketed. And
Speaker 1: I think in a lot of cases, particularly hip hop
Speaker 1: has to do more with like the optics. So if
Speaker 1: Wayne comes out with Wayne's not maybe a great ample
Speaker 1: because for a run he really was it. For sure,
Speaker 1: there's a real conversation about Little Wayne being the greatest
Speaker 1: you know, hip hop artist, rapper of all time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is a really real there's certainly a subjective case.
Speaker 1: If I was his lawyer and I and I had
Speaker 1: to defend his case, I'd have a fucking briefcase full
Speaker 1: of shit it. It'd be tough for a jury to
Speaker 1: not Yeah, I mean like, it'd be tough for for
Speaker 1: a jury to not hear hear my thoughts and and
Speaker 1: you know, vote my way. Yeah. Yeah, I think maybe
Speaker 1: more like And there's kind of the difference between because
Speaker 1: it's hard talking about rappers because certain rappers, like the rapper,
Speaker 1: the artist and the guy aren't always quite so close,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I would say, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're talking about vanity, it's like like Rick Ross
Speaker 1: type of proclamations, you know, of either things you intend
Speaker 1: to do or like stuff that you like. He didn't.
Speaker 1: Rick never said I I moved five birds and whatever. No,
Speaker 1: he says something about he's friends with Noriega, the real Noriega,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, that's a lot. It's
Speaker 1: definitely a lot. It's definitely a lot. But but so
Speaker 1: so is that vanity being marketed or is that really
Speaker 1: just storytelling? You know what I mean? Like is that
Speaker 1: just him? Like when is it okay to tell a
Speaker 1: story about anything? Let's say you're trying to convey ideas
Speaker 1: to the general public. Like, right, I've had this conversation where, like,
Speaker 1: my whole career is I've been pretty much just keeping
Speaker 1: it straight on course, probably up to two thousand and eighteen,
Speaker 1: I've just pretty much said exactly what out what it was.
Speaker 1: But what I realized was the average audience is so
Speaker 1: disconnected from culture, you know, I mean from the culture
Speaker 1: that we were talking about. That this has been said
Speaker 1: so many times that's not even special with like they
Speaker 1: can't even get into the story because they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, versus exaggerating the idea so people can
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion of what's simple. I mean, like
Speaker 1: what it is Like this is gonna sound crazy, but
Speaker 1: it's simple. Like right, Like what I started doing was
Speaker 1: I would always wear glasses, right, but when I got
Speaker 1: these really big glasses. Now, these glasses is four hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: They not cheap glasses, but they don't look like they
Speaker 1: cost some money, right, which is you know, my glasses, right,
Speaker 1: So I realized that when people said my name, I
Speaker 1: need that. T Paine told me this a long time ago.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey man, your name is glasses and you
Speaker 1: will not wear glasses. That's crazy. And when I finally
Speaker 1: got them, I will wear glasses, but you just couldn't
Speaker 1: tell until I got these really big ass glasses. And
Speaker 1: that huge when you see him. But that's the only
Speaker 1: way I see why they called him glasses. People started
Speaker 1: saying that, and it comes I see why they call
Speaker 1: him glasses. Yeah, they almost kind of looked like it
Speaker 1: very search from the movie, like the glasses that Robert
Speaker 1: de Niro wears at the end of Casino or something
Speaker 1: like that. He warmed there Oceans e levin, remember the
Speaker 1: man that plugged him up with it. He wore them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're really expensive glasses. They not know punker
Speaker 1: as glasses. But I realized they were so big that
Speaker 1: they screamed glasses. I realized about five years ago that
Speaker 1: whatever you're trying to tell people you have to it
Speaker 1: has to be overtold, It has to be oversold for
Speaker 1: people to just get the simple idea of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like my glasses needed to be big and crazy for
Speaker 1: you to realize my name is glasses. Because if I
Speaker 1: wore glasses that just fit, they just people just miss them.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's because you know, again people seeing people
Speaker 1: with glasses a million times and it doesn't mean as
Speaker 1: much as it once did. Versus when I wear these
Speaker 1: big gass glasses, you're like, man them glass. Oh oh
Speaker 1: that's why his name is glasses. Yeah. Um, back to
Speaker 1: back to the point, Um theatrical and literal. Give me
Speaker 1: an example, give me another example of that, Like, where's theatrical? Like,
Speaker 1: so it's at that point are we're saying Rick Ross
Speaker 1: is vain? That's how I say, I don't know between
Speaker 1: the artists and the guy, say Rick Ross, the artist,
Speaker 1: Like if Rick Ross and I forgot its real name,
Speaker 1: had different social Security numbers and we really knew that
Speaker 1: Rick Ross was his own I think it's William Robert Stanley,
Speaker 1: William Roberts mhm h. If that guy just was his
Speaker 1: own guy and Rick was his own guy, then yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say. Vanity is putting on all the designer
Speaker 1: clothes you own in the same outfit and driving seven
Speaker 1: Lamborghinis of different colors down the street doing zigzags on
Speaker 1: your way to wherever it is that you're going. As
Speaker 1: it looks that's how you travel, is portrayed by your
Speaker 1: video something like that, you know or you know in
Speaker 1: cases for like one thing I think is pretty straight line.
Speaker 1: It's like women now have seen female artists where like
Speaker 1: it's like like performance makeup you have to wear, not
Speaker 1: regular makeup if you're going to be on the stage
Speaker 1: who are looking at you from far away. Well now
Speaker 1: they wear that ship to work. M And that's a
Speaker 1: manifestation of an artist's vanity coming They prostitution culture, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they are impeding on prostitution culture and get mad when
Speaker 1: they get the same energy as fucking hilarious to me,
Speaker 1: I agree, But I've heard that a lot of times
Speaker 1: where it's like you don't judge a book by its cover.
Speaker 1: It's like that's always been a goofy expression because books
Speaker 1: have covers for that exact reason. Yeah, that was the reason.
Speaker 1: Why did you need to cover? Yeah, and to the
Speaker 1: extent that it's a scenario where a person is controlling
Speaker 1: how he looks or she looks. They could have looked anyway.
Speaker 1: They chose that way. Yeah, they chose a well spoken
Speaker 1: perspective or a well spoken for look. Yeah. Very true.
Speaker 1: Um people like Kanye West, um jay Z. I do
Speaker 1: think I am. I think the more I thought about
Speaker 1: what he was saying, vanity is and I think we
Speaker 1: see it as vanity because we get the point right immediately.
Speaker 1: You didn't need to oversell us. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if the average human being would think of certain people
Speaker 1: like Rick Ross as vain, like the rose the character
Speaker 1: the rapper, not the human being that's rapping the wraps,
Speaker 1: but the character as vain. I think they just see
Speaker 1: him is all day long, things like oh okay, he's
Speaker 1: a drug dealer. But but I had this conversation I
Speaker 1: talked to you about it where a guy was asking
Speaker 1: me did I really sell drugs? And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I really sold PCP and crack, I mean in marijuana.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, why don't you dress like Rick Ross?
Speaker 1: And I was like, drug dealers don't dress like Rick.
Speaker 1: Then it hit me. TV is what's programming people to
Speaker 1: believe this is all they know. But TV is also
Speaker 1: great to make sure that the average person who doesn't know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, gets the picture. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: if I'm telling him real drug dealers, I'm telling him
Speaker 1: real drug dealers don't dress like this because I know,
Speaker 1: really rich drug dealers. Yeah, and I ain't never seen,
Speaker 1: you know, these people dressed like none of these characters
Speaker 1: in a film or Scarface or you know, none of
Speaker 1: this stuff. And to him, all he knows is the
Speaker 1: character that is Scarface, you know what I mean, from
Speaker 1: the movie. And then he said Rick Rows and Rick Rose.
Speaker 1: His whole marketing plan as a as a as a
Speaker 1: rapper is I'm gonna dress like Scarface because the rap
Speaker 1: excuse me, the movie Scarface is a Miami drug dealer
Speaker 1: like niggas in Miami is not wearing Linen. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think also part of it is, like you can
Speaker 1: see it in the popularity of minor league sports. You know,
Speaker 1: there isn't any So for the American consumer, they only
Speaker 1: want to even just hear about the most prolific. So
Speaker 1: if there's going to be like a show made about
Speaker 1: a drug dealer, it's gonna be made about meats. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be made about one hundred million dollar novelty that's
Speaker 1: the most interesting, not about the five million dollar guy,
Speaker 1: which there's you know, a thousand of them out there,
Speaker 1: or for five or about the government there are you know,
Speaker 1: So I think that plays into it as well. So
Speaker 1: then I think because of that reality, because the USFL
Speaker 1: failed because no one goes to the minor league baseball
Speaker 1: game and Little Rock, Arkansas, now you have to say,
Speaker 1: all right, well, if I'm going to project an image
Speaker 1: to market, I need to project the image of all
Speaker 1: images to market. I have to be the biggest deal
Speaker 1: of whatever type of deal I am. If I'm provocative,
Speaker 1: I have to be the singularly most provocative human that's
Speaker 1: ever been born, or no one cares. And you kind
Speaker 1: of saw that before, like we were kind of talking
Speaker 1: about that. Maybe in a different context with um oh Man,
Speaker 1: who's the rapper who's black and gay, who did the
Speaker 1: Cowboys song Oh Little nas Yeah, he tends to maybe
Speaker 1: be a little bit provocative as well, also with the
Speaker 1: devil theme. I think at one point sure, but see
Speaker 1: his his his rhetoric was, Oh, everybody is telling me
Speaker 1: I'm going to hill anyway, so lett me blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: which was what was the deal with the other guy.
Speaker 1: I'm not Smith really just copied the same idea. It
Speaker 1: was corny, I don't. I don't think it really worked
Speaker 1: out for him. I didn't. I didn't feel the boom
Speaker 1: of it all. Maybe it worked in the white community,
Speaker 1: but I didn't feel the boom of it all like
Speaker 1: I did with Little nas X. I didn't feel the
Speaker 1: same boom. Yeah, I think it was used. I see see.
Speaker 1: I think in real life, like when you first see something,
Speaker 1: it don't have to be over the top. It's the
Speaker 1: first time you've seen it, so it is over the
Speaker 1: top exactly. I mean, the first time you saw Snoop
Speaker 1: Dog as a gangster rapper, he didn't have to be
Speaker 1: over the top. If he just wore a couple of
Speaker 1: the pieces, you never saw it before, so it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the first time versus fast forward thirty years.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You like, I've seen that before.
Speaker 1: What does it look like over the top? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think that's also sort of not to cut you off, uh,
Speaker 1: because from five to five c Mac, it's it's it
Speaker 1: seems over the top vein, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like the Hoover killer on his head, like he's just
Speaker 1: you know, the the greatest destruction of another gang there is,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And that's the the average person.
Speaker 1: But he can't believe that. I hope he don't really
Speaker 1: truly believe that, because you know, you're talking about another
Speaker 1: community with you know, thousands of members who you know,
Speaker 1: they've been around as long as street life and and
Speaker 1: and you know, urban Los Angeles has been around, you know,
Speaker 1: as far as black people go. I'd imagine if he
Speaker 1: believed that, really, it probably wouldn't be here, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: at that point you would be out trying to carry
Speaker 1: out the mission and you're gonna pretty much run into
Speaker 1: bad luck eventually pretty fast. Yeah. But I agree it
Speaker 1: does come across excessive, you know, the way he speaks
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna put the five be five me,
Speaker 1: not before me be five me. So I guess it
Speaker 1: is this excessive pride in the community where you know,
Speaker 1: but see it's hard for me right even as an artist,
Speaker 1: because it's like I was always taught the genuine article.
Speaker 1: Don't got to put it on like that. Like the
Speaker 1: richest drug dealers, I know, they didn't never buy designer clothes.
Speaker 1: And these niggas where millionaires. They're also not an entertainment
Speaker 1: nor wanted to be coming to America. Great, that was
Speaker 1: the spoon. That was the swoon. Oh fuck. And I
Speaker 1: think that's something that we maybe society has lost a
Speaker 1: little bit of, um a grasp on is the difference
Speaker 1: between walking like I talk it because there's no show
Speaker 1: about what I do and you know, people who's earning
Speaker 1: of a living, isn't the show about what they do?
Speaker 1: Is the show? Is? This is the show? You know?
Speaker 1: Like there's hedge fund guys worth nine figures all over
Speaker 1: the place, not all over the place, but where they
Speaker 1: are in concentration, they are all over the place. It's
Speaker 1: like I think there's like regular guys. I mean, they
Speaker 1: have a little bit more, but you wouldn't think, well,
Speaker 1: if that guy would thirty or forty million dollars, looks
Speaker 1: like that. That That guy's got four hundred million dollars. What
Speaker 1: must he look like? He looks like a regular guy. Hmm.
Speaker 1: But when head said it to me, just like when
Speaker 1: you said it to me, vanity, the only way the
Speaker 1: general population can get it, even at his most basic level,
Speaker 1: is it has to in the intellectual mind that's presenting
Speaker 1: or processing. It would have to be vanity. It had
Speaker 1: to be presented and damn that's fucked up. It would
Speaker 1: have to be the sent in vain. Yeah. Well, because
Speaker 1: like you kind of said something earlier, like first. But
Speaker 1: I think that the motto sort of is you either
Speaker 1: got to be the first or the biggest, you know,
Speaker 1: otherwise who cares? You're just there? You're just another bladograph
Speaker 1: on the lawn. Yeah that makes sense. But isn't vanity
Speaker 1: a sin? Yeah? Some of that stuff with the Bible
Speaker 1: has contextual evolution that is different. I think that if
Speaker 1: I would have bet vanity as a sin, meaning that
Speaker 1: you're so vain that you feel that your role in
Speaker 1: your own life is greater than God's, not necessarily that
Speaker 1: you like everyone to look at you at the restaurant
Speaker 1: when you walk in the door. And Christian teachings vanity
Speaker 1: and it is an example of pride, one of the
Speaker 1: seven Daily sins. Yeah, because it's like I was listening
Speaker 1: to as. Actually it's Ben Shapiro talking about Juda as
Speaker 1: or something like I said the Lord's name in vainue'
Speaker 1: I supposed to say the Lord's name in vain. When
Speaker 1: we take it as like, don't say like God, damn it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I guess the classical
Speaker 1: meaning of that suggestion is that you don't take the
Speaker 1: Lord's name in vain, saying I am doing this thing
Speaker 1: because God told me to do this thing, when that's
Speaker 1: not true. I've always said that people the Bible is
Speaker 1: a very serious literature book, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: that we have teaching people about these teachings, these words
Speaker 1: are not equipped to translate, you know, the texts like
Speaker 1: these are truly big, serious words. I think we do
Speaker 1: meet people that are spiritually discerned for the role, but
Speaker 1: it probably should require a level of education, Like I
Speaker 1: don't like I like a lawyer. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You're dealing with some serious language and it's serious. It's
Speaker 1: serious as hell, So it says vanity of vanity, says
Speaker 1: the preacher, vanity of vanities, all is vanity. The Hebrew
Speaker 1: word for vanity use is this verse literally means vapor
Speaker 1: or breath. It can also be translated to meaningless, emptiness,
Speaker 1: or futility. Sure, yeah, like an effort in vain. So yeah,
Speaker 1: vanity is Yeah, I guess in that sense it's meaningless
Speaker 1: or valueless posturing and representation. I think in the sense
Speaker 1: that it's akin to like to pride as pride being
Speaker 1: a seven dely sinners, you have more pride that you
Speaker 1: have too much pride in yourself to understand the proper
Speaker 1: relationship between your role and the role of God. M
Speaker 1: sure that would that would make more sense in English, Yeah,
Speaker 1: m hmm. But yeah, we live in a completely sick world,
Speaker 1: like I said, watching that show, and people really think
Speaker 1: that we got the Earth under control. Yeah, it's people don't.
Speaker 1: It's amazing to me how little people have, like just normally,
Speaker 1: like like reverence for scope either of space or of time,
Speaker 1: Like people don't understand how big a large place really is,
Speaker 1: and they don't understand how long a long time really is,
Speaker 1: like at all you know what that bro That is
Speaker 1: actually the truth. There is such a mute minute understanding
Speaker 1: of what a long time is. And you know what,
Speaker 1: that's the vanity and us as humans because we quantify
Speaker 1: based off of our existence of what a long time is.
Speaker 1: You don't quantify it off the existence of let's say Earth.
Speaker 1: Even what we know about Earth existence we quantified based
Speaker 1: off of our time. Like, what's a long time? I
Speaker 1: was waiting on you a long time? It's thirty minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get thirty minutes within the grand spectrum of time.
Speaker 1: You know, this Earth has probably been alive. Shit that
Speaker 1: might not even that's not even the wink of eye
Speaker 1: for this motherfucker. Yeah. I mean, like just like a
Speaker 1: perspective that I has like jumped out to me. People
Speaker 1: say gender is a social construct, Like all right, oh,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. We've only really had a modern social construct
Speaker 1: over the course of human existence for a blink of
Speaker 1: an eye. I mean, like I think Jordan Peterson was saying,
Speaker 1: you know, and that thing he was talking about with
Speaker 1: the lobster and the brain chemical that we divested evolutionarily
Speaker 1: from that about fifty five million years ago. We've only
Speaker 1: been like literate as a species for about seven to
Speaker 1: eight thousand years or something like that, right, So if
Speaker 1: you were to look at the evolution from like backwards,
Speaker 1: like Homo sapien to like Homopyrus Homo habilis, all these
Speaker 1: different evolutionary phases which are one hundred plus thousands of years,
Speaker 1: men are more durable in those of one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: year period. Men are physically more durable for ninety nine
Speaker 1: of the hundred thousands of years, you know, to the
Speaker 1: extent where it really really really mattered. So now within
Speaker 1: the last thousand years it's a social construct when the
Speaker 1: construct was defined by ninety nine thousand years before it
Speaker 1: of roles that were mind by the physiological constraints. No scope.
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