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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth.

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Speaker 2: And Lazarre.

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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody nailed it. Joined us always by our bark.

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Speaker 3: Here is Evan Lazar and Alex bars Go outside, look

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Speaker 3: at that schoolboards DVOA up there.

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Speaker 1: No, but points is points? Context that's needed? No, No,

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Speaker 1: there's not. When it comes to it is what about

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Speaker 1: their quarterbacks? You faced? What about the conditions you were

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Speaker 1: playing it?

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Speaker 3: What about you know, good defense doesn't good defense doesn't

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Speaker 3: allow points?

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is like we were getting into this with

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Speaker 1: the Bruins.

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Speaker 3: The people were saying, oh, you look at the expected goals,

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Speaker 3: but they didn't score them. That's why they were expected

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Speaker 3: points them last night points in the Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All the Bruins are still alive. Not that this is

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Speaker 1: a Bruins show, but we're talking about the Bruins. So

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Speaker 1: there you go. Evan Lazar, Alex Barth Patriots Catch twenty

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Speaker 1: two for the next couple of hours with you. You

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Speaker 1: can join in on the fun at eight five five

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Speaker 1: PATS five hundred or web radio at Patriots dot com.

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Speaker 1: And a lot to talk to about today, Alex. We're

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Speaker 1: just talking about this walking in we got schedule release.

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Speaker 1: We haven't talked about Rookie Minni Caamp yet on the show,

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Speaker 1: so we got Rookie Mini Caamp to talk about. So

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Speaker 1: there's plenty of ground to cover here today.

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Speaker 3: For it's just not just a gloss over the schedule

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Speaker 3: release which you were in. And I've got to give

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Speaker 3: my piece, but you gonna be I gotta, I gotta

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Speaker 3: tell you. I'm not gonna come on here and nitpick

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Speaker 3: your appearance.

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Speaker 1: Come on, okay, all right, what do you got? What

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Speaker 1: do you got? Where was the ponytail? No, I'm not

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Speaker 1: a ponytail guy. You couldn't even get a fake one

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Speaker 1: off Amazon. It did look gimmicky, and yeah, since the

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Speaker 1: video no no, no, you would be yes, it was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be obviously a parody of good will hunting,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't want to make it look chinsy. You know,

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Speaker 1: we talked about the ponytail. It wasn't it wasn't something

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Speaker 1: that we considered seriously. Besides that, very good, well done.

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Speaker 1: Oh please don't pander. Don't know. The whole thing was was.

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Speaker 3: I thought that the basing it around uh Bill Belichick's

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Speaker 3: dad's book was great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like a deep cut that we were

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Speaker 1: hoping that, you know, people like you, frankly, we're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: We knew that the masses probably would gloss over that

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Speaker 1: piece of it, but that was the That was those

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Speaker 1: deep easter eggs that if you're like a real nut

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Speaker 3: I gotta go back through because I was working in

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Speaker 3: the Celtics game last night, so I didn't get to

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Speaker 3: like really scroll through it, but I know there's always

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Speaker 3: easter eggs. I gotta go back and look. But Ernie

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Speaker 3: the little, the little post credits scene awesome.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Jones brought it. Marcus Jones brought it. I honestly

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Speaker 1: it together, and it was it was hilarious. Well, one

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Speaker 1: like the credits card at the very end, Yes, and

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Speaker 1: it's just a bunch of Patriots references, even some people

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Speaker 1: gotta you really this is you know, as I am

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Speaker 1: taking absolutely zero credit for the creative direction of this project.

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Speaker 1: and I did my piece. But Alex Francisco, she deserves

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Speaker 1: So I just bumped the breaks theater you're on for

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Speaker 3: down to people. They you might have got typecast there, buddy.

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Speaker 1: right like when it you know, Catch twenty two and

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Speaker 1: It was really a cool experience. And the whole video though,

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Speaker 1: It's like some of these the other teams just sort

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Speaker 1: Last year was the Retirement House. This year it was

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Speaker 3: I would even say, like most of the I don't

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Speaker 1: They always try to make fun of the teams that

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Speaker 1: I did not. It was it's so they didn't do

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, they they That's what these all, some of

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Speaker 3: But no, it's way too late. The mini buy is

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Speaker 1: I just want to see an upward ascension towards the

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Speaker 1: end of the year. Yeah, and they really do set

436
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Speaker 1: up nicely to come out of that bye week with Cardinals, Bills,

437
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Speaker 1: Chargers Bills to end the year where maybe they do

438
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Speaker 1: win three out of four, maybe they do win you know,

439
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Speaker 1: all four of them, probably not both against the Bills,

440
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say generously three out of four. And

441
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Speaker 1: then you do go into the offseason feeling like there's

442
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Speaker 1: some positives like Drake may played well in those four games,

443
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Speaker 1: you hung with the Bills both times, maybe you beat

444
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Speaker 1: them one time. You know here probably maybe you beat

445
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Speaker 1: the Chargers, and you know his lookalike, Justin Herbert, and

446
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 1: you're starting to say, Okay, this could really be something.

447
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Speaker 1: I think when you look at a lot of teams

448
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Speaker 1: that end up, you know, having that quick ascension and

449
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: their rebuilds. I look at the Detroit Lions. The Lions,

450
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Speaker 1: if you remember the year before, not last year, but

451
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Speaker 1: the year before, they went on a crazy win streak

452
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Speaker 1: to end the year and nearly snuck into the playoffs.

453
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Speaker 1: Then this year they come or last year they come back,

454
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Speaker 1: and they're one of the best teams in the NFL.

455
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm sort of hoping is going to happen,

456
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Speaker 1: is that this is sort of a jumping off point

457
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Speaker 1: that we go into the off season with some momentum,

458
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Speaker 1: and then you make some more moves in the offseason.

459
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Speaker 1: You have another strong draft class. Now some people are

460
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Speaker 1: also going to hear that and say, well, you're gonna

461
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Speaker 1: win three or four games down the stretch and then

462
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Speaker 1: your draft pick is gonna get you know, you're gonna

463
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Speaker 1: take your draft pick and all that type of stuff.

464
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Speaker 1: But I think we're we're trying to get out of that. Yeah,

465
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Speaker 1: and you had your year to tank, right like you

466
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Speaker 1: did last year. You want to become habitual losers. Yeah,

467
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Speaker 1: like last year was your tank year. You got the

468
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Speaker 1: third overall pick, you got the quarterback. Now you want

469
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Speaker 1: to start to build something moving forward. You mentioned Drake

470
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Speaker 1: May and the landing spot. The spot that I circled

471
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Speaker 1: was was the Jets at home after London. I just

472
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Speaker 1: think for a couple of reasons. One, I think it's

473
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Speaker 1: good to get London and all that stuff out of

474
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Speaker 1: the way. Some of those really difficult road games early

475
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Speaker 1: on in the year too. Yeah, get out of the way.

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Speaker 1: Let's get that out of the way. Then you have

477
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Speaker 1: the Jets at home at one o'clock, which, yes, it

478
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Speaker 1: probably will be Aaron Rodgers and'll be a good team

479
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Speaker 1: and a good defense and all that kind of stuf.

480
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Speaker 1: But it's not a it's not a marquee game. It's

481
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Speaker 1: not an Island game. It's not a primetime game, so

482
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Speaker 1: you're you're putting him in a cushiony spot in terms

483
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Speaker 1: of home game at one o'clock. You really can't get

484
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Speaker 1: it much easier than that. Then the Titans, who are

485
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Speaker 1: pretty much like you, you know, a rebuilding team with

486
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Speaker 1: a young quarterback, you know, on some uncertainty there, new

487
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Speaker 1: head coach, young head coach. And then you get the Bears.

488
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Speaker 1: So now one will be the showdown of Drake May

489
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Speaker 1: versus Caleb, which will be a fun game just to

490
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Speaker 1: watch and for fans and everything like that. So I

491
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Speaker 1: feel like those three games is probably the easiest part

492
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Speaker 1: of the schedule, the easiest stretch of the schedule, if

493
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Speaker 1: you will. You get him out of the London game.

494
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Speaker 1: You know, obviously like if he's ready for it, he's

495
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Speaker 1: ready for it, but we're talking that he needs time

496
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Speaker 1: to sit behind. Jacoby Bris said for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You avoid him playing in London, You avoid him playing

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Speaker 1: that Thursday night game against the Jets, which is the

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Speaker 1: one primetime game on the schedule for the Patriots, which

500
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Speaker 1: is going to be all about Aaron Rodgers and his return,

501
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Speaker 1: and you know, to football, that's the that's their home

502
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: opener too, so that'll be the you know, Aaron Rodgers

503
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: return to be a lot of eyeballs on that game.

504
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Speaker 1: So I think that in general, that's probably the best

505
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Speaker 1: spot for Drake may if they feel like he needs

506
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Speaker 1: to sit start the year and and you want to

507
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Speaker 1: find a nice spot in the middle of the calendar,

508
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Speaker 1: I would say the Jets at home at one o'clock

509
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Speaker 1: is probably the best spot for him. I don't hate

510
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Speaker 1: him starting the next week too, if like the Jets

511
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Speaker 1: are rolling and they're six and oh or whatever at

512
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Speaker 1: that point seven to oh, and Aaron Rodgers is an

513
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Speaker 1: MVP candidate and he don't want to throw him to

514
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Speaker 1: the Wolves against the Jets, then I suppose you could

515
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Speaker 1: wait one week to the Titans as well.

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Speaker 3: The other thing, you know, if they want to do

517
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Speaker 3: it a little sooner, if the situation is really setting

518
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Speaker 3: up when they get back against Miami week five, yeah,

519
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Speaker 3: because you have two home games back to back, so

520
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Speaker 3: that makes it easy.

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Speaker 1: And then he is going over to London. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Miami Houston and Houston's a tough game, but you have

523
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Speaker 1: those two games back to back at home, so at

524
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Speaker 1: least you cut out the whole travel portion of it.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird cluster schedule, like you said, where there's

526
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Speaker 1: there's pockets of back to back home games and back

527
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Speaker 1: to back road games. They back to back on the

528
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Speaker 1: road to like three or four times, I want to say,

529
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Speaker 1: if I remember correctly off the top of my head, ye,

530
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Speaker 1: three times, yeah, three times back to back road games,

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Speaker 1: which is interesting. So we'll see. It's it's a tough schedule.

532
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Speaker 1: It's not an easy schedule. We knew that, like I

533
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Speaker 1: said at the top, we knew that the opponents were

534
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Speaker 1: gonna be tough, but just in general, the layout of

535
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Speaker 1: the schedule in the late by makes it even tougher.

536
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Speaker 1: I think in a lot of ways. Now, the question

537
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Speaker 1: is which games get the throwbacks. It's a good question.

538
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Speaker 1: I still think that the throwback games personally, it should

539
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Speaker 1: be either some sort of AFL callback you know, to

540
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Speaker 1: some some sort of AFL matchup, or like a divisional matchup,

541
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Speaker 1: you know, I think like Miami at home and we

542
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Speaker 1: Miami at home.

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Speaker 3: I would even say Houston, it could work against Houston.

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Speaker 3: It could if the Houston were can Houston, Well the

545
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Speaker 3: Titans were the Oilers, right, like, yeah, yeah, they don't

546
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Speaker 3: the Houston doesn't wear those.

547
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Speaker 1: And then the other one I would December first against

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Speaker 1: the Colts. I bet that'll be one. Yeah, always do

549
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Speaker 1: one super late.

550
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense, just seems like it makes it

551
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: like once you get to the Chargers and Bills, because

552
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Speaker 3: they go three weeks without a home game after that. Yeah,

553
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Speaker 3: so once you get to charge and Bills at the

554
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Speaker 3: end of the season, I feel like that's too late.

555
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. It is odd having you know, you know, the

556
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Speaker 1: Bills uh to and two times in the last three

557
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Speaker 1: weeks of the year. That's a that's a weird one.

558
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Speaker 1: And if, like you said, if they are competitive, I

559
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Speaker 1: don't want to say kind of surprisingly they are in it.

560
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: And let's say it is a little bit like Max

561
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Speaker 1: Jones's rookie year, and they they're, you know, a wildcard team.

562
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Speaker 1: There's a chance that they could go to Buffalo again, right,

563
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: like they're right, yeah, which is then it wasn't quite

564
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Speaker 1: that Max rookie year, but it was. They played Buffalo

565
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Speaker 1: in Week sixteen Max rookie, and then in the wild

566
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Speaker 1: card weekend, and then they had played them right before

567
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Speaker 1: the bye at the end of the year like Week

568
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Speaker 1: thirteen or something like that. So they played Buffalo a

569
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Speaker 1: bunch of Max, you know, in a short period of time.

570
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Speaker 1: Max rookie year as well, so that that possibly could

571
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Speaker 1: happen too. With this schedule. There was one more thing,

572
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Speaker 1: oh London. I am actually really looking forward to the

573
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Speaker 1: London trip. You know, I was a little skeptical about Germany,

574
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Speaker 1: but Germany won me over when we were there. They

575
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Speaker 1: did a great job with it. I've always wanted to

576
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Speaker 1: go to London, never been bucket list item for me.

577
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Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to that. I just got to say,

578
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Speaker 1: I know that there's some fans that don't love the

579
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Speaker 1: International Games, whether it's because at the time of day

580
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Speaker 1: that they're played or because they want you know, some

581
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: fans are from Florida and wanted to go to the

582
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville was the one game that maybe they could go to.

583
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 1: I get all that, But the fans over there are

584
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: crazy for the Patriots and it's a ton of fun

585
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: and I would venture to say that that will be

586
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Speaker 1: a Patriots home game in Wembley like there will definitely

587
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: I think be more Patriots fans than Jaguars fans there.

588
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: And when we were in Germany and Frankfurt last year,

589
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't just people from Germany that were at that game,

590
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: like people from all over Europe flocked to frank for

591
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: that game for the Patriots, and it was a lot

592
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Speaker 1: of fun and I'm really looking forward to seeing all

593
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: those people.

594
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Speaker 3: Patriots now have the third most international games since they

595
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: start doing like regular international games in two thousand and seven.

596
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Speaker 3: The Jaguars obviously of the most play this will be

597
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: twelve and thirteen this year. Simply two Dolphins have played six,

598
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: Patriots and Raiders have both played five.

599
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I mean, I think that's the one little

600
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Speaker 1: schedule quirk I mentioned. The net rest differential is majorly

601
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: in the Patriots favor, one of the biggest of all time, right, yeah, yeah,

602
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: it is since like this millennium, you know, like two

603
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: thousand and two or something like that's in solved. This

604
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: realignment happened. The one thing that isn't in their favor

605
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: is that the Jags will already be in London because

606
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are playing the week before at Tottenham against

607
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: who is it against? I forget the Bears, the Bears,

608
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: the Bears and then there so the Jaguars are going

609
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: to be in London two weeks in a row, so

610
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: they'll already have be there. So I'm very interested to see,

611
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: both selfishly and for the Patriots sake, what Jerrodmeo does

612
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: about that week. You know, is that a week long

613
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: trip to London. Is that the Patriots leave on Tuesday,

614
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday in London, or what they did

615
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: last year with Germany is they came just for Friday, Saturday,

616
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Speaker 1: Sunday and they flew in on Thursday night. You know,

617
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: they took the red eye Thursday night across the pond

618
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: and then practice there on Friday in Germany. But the

619
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Speaker 1: difference was that it was that the colt said the

620
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: exact same thing, So there was no advantage one way

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Speaker 1: or the other. Now that the Jaguars are going to

622
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Speaker 1: be there the entire time, it wouldn't surprise me if

623
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Speaker 1: the Patriots go to London for a little bit longer. Yeah,

624
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: and that's why too.

625
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: Chadcraft from the Athletic we were talking last night on

626
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: Twitter and he brought up could the London game be

627
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: where you dropped Drake May in Cod and I, well,

628
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Speaker 3: I think it comes down to like what does that

629
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Speaker 3: week look like? Are you going to have a full

630
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Speaker 3: three days of practice and all of that, and because

631
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Speaker 3: you know it's gonna be a lot on his plate, and.

632
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Speaker 1: It does feel like how does it line up? It

633
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: does feel like a Tuesday trip out to London with

634
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Speaker 1: practice all week in London makes a lot of sense. Yeah,

635
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: because you know, I just mentioned because of the Jaguars,

636
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Speaker 1: but also just because it felt like last year that

637
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: Friday practice that they did in Germany was kind of

638
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: a waste because everybody was so jet lagged and exhausted.

639
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: Even Bill, remember Bill up at the podium was like

640
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: could barely, you know, keep his eyes open. I think

641
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: that that's a tough spot to put everybody in. So

642
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 1: Tuesday is typically a day off for the players. Monday

643
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: they come back into the facility. That's it's a victory Monday.

644
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: They come back in and they do film, and they

645
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: do meetings and they do you know, guys that need

646
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: to seek treatment for you know, injuries and bumps and bruises,

647
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: go and do that kind of stuff. Tuesday is the

648
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: true day off. That's the day that the coaches then

649
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: turn the page to the opponent and they do all

650
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Speaker 1: their work for the game plan that they're gonna give

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Speaker 1: the players. On Wednesday or Tuesday night. Tuesday is a

652
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Speaker 1: true day off for the players, and then it's you know,

653
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: Wednesday through Sunday is the work week. So in my mind,

654
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Speaker 1: Tuesday the day off. You fly out Tuesday to London,

655
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Speaker 1: you get everybody there Tuesday night, and then you practice

656
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Speaker 1: there throughout the week. Makes a lot of sense, especially

657
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Speaker 1: because they're not doing the West Coast back to back now,

658
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Speaker 1: so that that trip is out. They're not traveling at

659
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Speaker 1: all for joint practices this year. It doesn't sound like

660
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Speaker 1: so that that's out. You know, there's no joint practices

661
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: on the road during training camp. So I think that

662
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Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense for the two West

663
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Speaker 1: Coast games that will probably fly out Friday for those

664
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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals and for the Niners. But it's not

665
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Speaker 1: it's not crazy. It's not a crazy long trip or

666
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: anything like that. It's just an extra day to get

667
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Speaker 1: acclimated to the time changing things of that nature. So

668
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Speaker 1: that's the schedule. You can weigh in on that or

669
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Speaker 1: whatever you want to weigh in on an eight five

670
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Speaker 1: to five, pass five hundred, and we have some rickey

671
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Speaker 1: mini caamp stuff to get to here in a second.

672
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Speaker 1: But let's take these calls, Alex, and then we'll get

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Speaker 1: into Ricky mini camp after Sean is in Vancouver.

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Speaker 5: What's up, Sean, Hey, it's great to hear you guys

675
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 5: live my jet lag if I may allows me to

676
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 5: listen to this show early on the West coast. Now,

677
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 5: I agree that I don't have my expectations for the

678
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 5: team this year that I don't expect the playoffs either.

679
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Speaker 5: My thing is all about development, and the schedule isn't

680
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 5: a surprise to me. I mean, the main thing is

681
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Speaker 5: they're not a good team, so the schedule is gonna

682
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Speaker 5: be tougher. It makes sense. But in terms of what

683
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Speaker 5: I am looking for is development and my concern is

684
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Speaker 5: the left tackle If that is an issue, is that

685
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Speaker 5: going to hold back the development that quarterback?

686
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fair question, Sean, And thanks for the call.

687
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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. And maybe this is

688
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Speaker 1: just me being going against the grain a little bit,

689
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Speaker 1: because this is Sean is definitely in the majority with

690
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Speaker 1: to take the offensive line in the left tackle position.

691
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Speaker 1: I'm not that worried about it. Not yet. That's crazy.

692
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Speaker 1: I'm not that worried about it because I think the

693
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Speaker 1: one thing that we have to keep in mind when

694
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Speaker 1: we talk about the offensive line this year is that

695
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Speaker 1: this system is not what the old Patriots system was.

696
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but at the end of the day, you still

697
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: got to be able to protect the quarterbacks blind side, but.

698
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Speaker 1: Their protections are going to be significantly different.

699
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Speaker 4: I know.

700
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Speaker 1: But it's such a perk of running this kind of

701
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: offense is that it's probably the most offensive line friendly

702
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: scheme in football because of all of the misdirection, because

703
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Speaker 1: of all the play action, because there really isn't a

704
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Speaker 1: whole lot of exposure to one on one pass rush.

705
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Speaker 1: Like you're really only going to be exposed to true

706
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Speaker 1: one on one pass rush ten times a game. A

707
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: lot can happen in ten plays. I'm not disagreeing with

708
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Speaker 1: you on that, I guess, But I just think that

709
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Speaker 1: the old Patriots offense that's a downhill scheme that is,

710
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, very very heavy on the offensive line. I

711
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: think there was a lot on their plates most weeks.

712
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna move the pocket a time. I would just

713
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Speaker 1: say it'd be one thing if like they had a

714
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Speaker 1: left tackle that we maybe didn't feel great about, like

715
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Speaker 1: to go back to like the Isaiah win days, right,

716
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Speaker 1: it'd be one thing if they had a left tackle

717
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Speaker 1: we didn't feel great about. They don't really have a

718
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Speaker 1: true left tackle. It's Cayden, Wallas and Chooks of Corps

719
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: four who neither one has played left tackle in a

720
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Speaker 1: game in four years at least for uh for Wallace

721
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Speaker 1: and for a Corps for it's I think seven. Yeah,

722
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Speaker 1: and you know the one true left tackle is Calvin Anderson,

723
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Speaker 1: which maybe have some faith in him, but he's coming

724
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: off some major, major, major medical stuff. Yeah, and credit

725
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: him for trying to fight back, but got to see

726
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Speaker 1: what it looks like on the field, so I I, yeah,

727
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Speaker 1: I don't really think it's it's just amount of like, man,

728
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Speaker 1: they could be better at left tackle. It's like, do

729
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 1: they have a left tackle on the roster. That's fair

730
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Speaker 1: And I'm not sitting here telling you that they have

731
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Speaker 1: good options, like don't don't miscan drew me saying I'm

732
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Speaker 1: not as worried about you're saying that the scheme will

733
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Speaker 1: cover it up. Yeah, I think the coaching in the

734
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Speaker 1: scheme in the quarterback play will come.

735
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Speaker 3: How much how much can the scheme really cover that up?

736
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Speaker 3: Because it's not even like there's a baseline there A.

737
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Speaker 1: Lot though because like I think the biggest thing is

738
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Speaker 1: is that, first of all, we've watched a quarterback in

739
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Yeah, turn it no offense to him into

740
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: kind of a puddle anytime there was pressure. Yeah. And

741
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm hoping, and maybe this is too optimistic, but on

742
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: top of the fact that the scheme is a big

743
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: part of it, I'm also hoping that they have quarterbacks now,

744
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: especially one quarterback in particular, Drake May, that isn't going

745
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: to be a puddle against pressure, that isn't going to

746
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: be a deer in the headlights, that can't move off

747
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: his spot, that can't get outside the pocket, that can't

748
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Speaker 1: elude rushers. Like Mac Jones was a stationary.

749
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Speaker 3: Podcast ast, but now we're back where we were with

750
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Speaker 3: mac Jones. Why does that have to be the plan?

751
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: Why does the plan have to be for Drake May

752
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: to take an absolute beating and just live with it.

753
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Speaker 1: Why I'm not saying he's going to take a beat it.

754
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying that he's gonna be somebody that's athletic enough

755
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: to if the left tackle gets beat, We're not all

756
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: just gonna be well that plays over, you know what

757
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Speaker 1: I mean. I don't know what that is, but that

758
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Speaker 1: that's that's.

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00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: Off your take. Yeah, the first time that happens. The

760
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: second time that happens, maybe it's fine. What about I

761
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 3: think that's TV just absolutely is gone.

762
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Speaker 1: I don't know, we're restarting itself. What is happening anyways.

763
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Speaker 3: The first time that happens, maybe that's the case. The

764
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: second time that happens, maybe it's case. What about the

765
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: tenth time, the fifteenth time, and the twentieth time, and

766
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: and like.

767
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'm not worried about Drake

768
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: make getting sped up. I'm not.

769
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Speaker 3: I don't know how I'm not as worried about him

770
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: as it was with Mac Jones. But how can he

771
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 3: not be a little worried.

772
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm just not. I just think that we I think

773
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Speaker 1: we saw some really really a bad quarterback play under

774
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: pressure here for the last two years, and so now

775
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: are a lot of people's brains are on his feet

776
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: are gonna turn to mush his his brain's gonna get

777
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: spread up, and he's gonna turn the ball over like crazy.

778
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: And it's sack sack, pressure, pressure fumble offensive line play.

779
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: Because of the title, because of the type of quarterback.

780
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 4: That you have.

781
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see.

782
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 3: But you look at the other teams running the scheme,

783
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: they pretty much all have, if not elite left tackles,

784
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 3: very high level left tackles.

785
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so how conan the Rams don't have a high

786
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: level left tackle. Who's just who's their left tackle? Andrew

787
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: Whitworth retired, so they know that not Whitworth. Uh, I

788
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: mean drafts somebody. Oh no, they didn't. They don't draft

789
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: anybody ever. I don't know think that uh is a

790
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: Lark Jackson. Yeah, that's my point and.

791
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 3: See there unless you're at the point being but most

792
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 3: of these teams have like good solid left A Lark

793
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: Jackson has experienced playing left tackle in the NFL.

794
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: He's done it. I understand that I'm in the minority,

795
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: and I also understand that there are reasons to be concerned.

796
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: I just I am cautiously optimistic that between the quarterback play,

797
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: because there's two different ways to go about it. From

798
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback perspective. You can either be Tom Brady who

799
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: just gets rid of the ball so quickly that doesn't matter,

800
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: or you can be an athlete back there that doesn't matter.

801
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: I think they have the athlete. I think the other

802
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: thing is is I really like Scott Peters a lot.

803
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a really good hire. I think he

804
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: technically so that he's gonna he's gonna coach guys up,

805
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: and I think schematically, uh, they are capable of covering

806
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: up a week link on the offensive line.

807
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 3: So if you're gonna tell me Scott Peters is going

808
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: to make these guys capable left tackles, okay.

809
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: Within the within the confines or the framework of what

810
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna ask them to do, I think that if.

811
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Speaker 3: You're telling me he's gonna they're gonna turn these guys

812
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Speaker 3: into serviceable left tackles. Fun, if you're telling me it's

813
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: another year where they don't really have a serviceable left

814
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Speaker 3: tackle and it's just a revolving door trying to get

815
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 3: them through the season, I think any system can only

816
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: cover that up so much.

817
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: I know everyone's gonna agree with you. I'm just telling

818
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: you that I feel like we have been we are

819
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: now have like this PTSD about us where every single

820
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: quarterback is going to be that.

821
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Speaker 3: I'm saying, if you're that convinced, did Scott Peters is

822
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: going to give them serviceable tackle play, then Okay, then

823
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 3: you have no need to be worried because if they

824
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: can just get serviceable to left tackle play this year.

825
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: You know, we we've talked about the LSU and the

826
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: Texas kid and not to like, fine, get me to

827
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: next year.

828
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

829
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: If you're not worried about it just because oh well,

830
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: left tackle won't be an important position, I think you're

831
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: kidding yourself.

832
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: No, I am not worried about it because of all

833
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: the factors. I'm not. I think the system lends itself

834
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: to making it life easier on the offensive line. I

835
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: think Scott Peters is going to be a good coach

836
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: for them. I think he's going to get the job

837
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: done in terms of coaching, and I think that once

838
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: they get Drake May in there, then they're going to

839
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: have a real athlete at the position. We're so we're

840
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: so used to over the last couple of years, watching

841
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: a guy that can't get out of the pocket, that

842
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: couldn't pressure, that couldn't elude, guys that couldn't really stand

843
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: in the pocket and still deliver throws accurately with zip

844
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: while under pressure, because if he was thrown off his

845
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: back foot, we have interceptions like in Germany, last year,

846
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: right like that, that was what we were watching. And

847
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody just thinks every single quarterback is

848
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: gonna turn to mush that at this first sign of

849
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: pressure because of some of the things that we've seen

850
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: here over the last couple of years. And I'm just

851
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: telling you that that's not every single quarterback just completely

852
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: turtles under pressure.

853
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 3: I get that, but it's also not great to just

854
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: immediately to just assume he's gonna be fine either, because

855
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: a lot of really good quarterback prospects who are mobile

856
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: have developed issues with pressure because they see it too much.

857
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, or maybe they just learnt very good

858
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: like I just for example, I understand it's a different scenario.

859
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: He had better receivers, YadA, YadA, yadah. We do this

860
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 1: all the time. But like Joe Burrow was just good

861
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: even before they got Jamar Chase's year, he was just good. Yeah,

862
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: and there was pressure all over him. Andrew Luck. Everybody says,

863
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: oh Andrew Luck, like they ruined him. Ye, Andrew Luck

864
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: got the Colts to the playoffs multiple times with a

865
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: horrible offense, and he's like I got cut short because

866
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 1: he got his career, No, his career got cut short

867
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: because he quit. Why did he quit? He's just getting no, yes,

868
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: because he's getting rap beat out of him. He would

869
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: have quit. Yes, he would have quit because he would

870
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: have quit beat. He didn't want to play football anymore

871
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: because he was getting the crap beat out of him.

872
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: I disagree with that. I think Andrew Luck just didn't

873
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: want to play anymore because he was going out there

874
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: every Sunday. I disagree. I think he just didn't want

875
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: to play anymore. I'll tell you why he didn't want

876
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: to play. He quit like ten years early. He couldn't.

877
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: He couldn't play. He was so hurt. He was not Yeah,

878
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: this is a bizarre take. Andrew Luck was not fine.

879
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: You actually think that Andrew Luck retired from football because

880
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: he was injured, not just because Andrew Luck just decided

881
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: he was done. I think he decided he was done

882
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: because he was done taking a beating every week, and

883
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: he knew the.

884
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: Colts that weren't going to help the offensive line. Come on,

885
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty much been settled. I don't think

886
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 3: that's like, no, no.

887
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: I think that that's that's crazy. All right, let's go

888
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: to Patty and Agua on what's up, Patty, guys, don't

889
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: worry good. How are you hang on? Patty? Sorry? What second? Sorry?

890
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: Just Andrew Luck at his press conference, cited his recurrent

891
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 3: cycle of injuries and rehabilitation as the primary reason stopped playing, saying,

892
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: I've been stuck in this process.

893
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to live the life I want

894
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: to live. Sorry, Patty, go ahead.

895
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: I love it. I wanted to touch on a couple

896
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: of topics. But first, like I know, I said it

897
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: the first time I called in, it was either your

898
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: second or third show. But like the fact that Barton

899
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: Lazaar on Patriots dot Com and the show, it's it's

900
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: the dream come true. And I'm still muffled at it.

901
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: You know, I love it.

902
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: And it's for stuff like that. It's for arguments like

903
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: that that you guys just said. So Yeah. The first

904
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: thing I wanted to touch on was I would not

905
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: be surprised and I'm gonna head on the schedule. I

906
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if we open up the season with

907
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: a win. And here's why I have reason for optimism.

908
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: If you look at the Cincinnati Bengals record of their

909
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: first two weeks in the Joe Burrow era, I think

910
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: the only win that they had was their opener in

911
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. There's Super Bowl run here and I

912
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: think there might have been a tie in there somewhere.

913
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: But they kind of remind me of a team like

914
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: the Brady Ara Patriots, where they start off a little

915
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: sluggish and then they just turn it on, like you know,

916
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: after the first four or five weeks of the season.

917
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: And if you look last year, I know Burrow was

918
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: hurt coming out of the gates, but they got beat

919
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 2: by Cleveland and you know that was ad twe staff

920
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: And I'm just saying it wouldn't shock me.

921
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 5: Now.

922
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: With that being said, I do think I'm not one

923
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: of these people that went from the schedule knowing because

924
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: I knew who they were playing. I wouldn't be surprised

925
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: if we end up with another top five pick. And

926
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: it's not because I think that they're going to be

927
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 2: terrible and they're going to get blown out. I think

928
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: the defense is going to keep them competitive. But much

929
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: like Drew Bledstone's Rik the year which I was seventeen,

930
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: so I watched the whole season. You know, if they

931
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: come down and win maybe like five six games out

932
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: of the you know, this season we get another top

933
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: five pick, and this is the year, this coming year

934
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: in the draft, this is the year that we trade

935
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: down and start accumulating assets for the future. And Alex,

936
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Hopefully next year we get that big

937
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: sub left tackle. And that's really it. Love you guys.

938
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: You guys are the freaking best. Keep doing what we're doing,

939
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 2: and you know, hopefully another organic argumentspert today.

940
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: Thanks for the comp appreciate it. I mean, I'm reading

941
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: through Andrew Luck's good for you press conference transcript. The

942
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: whole thing is you're you're, you're, You're literally giving him

943
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: a cop out. He's like one of Like Andrew Luck

944
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: is one of those guys. If Andrew Luck did Barry

945
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: Sanders retired from football because the line's stunk, Andrew Andrew

946
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: Luck retired from football because he didn't want to cut

947
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: it anymore. That's why he did it.

948
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: If Andrew Luck didn't retire because of injuries, nobody told Andrew.

949
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: Luck good for Andrew Luck. Do I think, like why

950
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: do I I don't understand. I don't understand what the

951
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: point of all this is. Like, so Andrew Luck, I

952
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: don't personally like give Andrew Luck that cop out. He

953
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: said that that's fine. I think Andrew Luck kind of quit.

954
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: That's it, and that's fine, Like that's it's his life,

955
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: like it's his football career. Like I'm not telling him,

956
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: like I'm saying is a bad person.

957
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: Instead of saying, oh, the system will cover up lacking

958
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: at left tackle, Let's make sure that the quarterback doesn't

959
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: get the crap eat out of him so much that

960
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: he decides he doesn't want to play football anymore.

961
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe you'll be right. I think that they have

962
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: a bridge year this year at left tackle and they'll

963
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: be fine. That's what I don't think. Why wouldn't it

964
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: be the plan because it's been the plan in the

965
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: last like three years. Obviously, the plan is to get

966
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: a left tackle at the top of the draft next year.

967
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: We're both unlockstep on that and have been saying that

968
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: for weeks now, like that the whole that's what we

969
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: think they should do.

970
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: But we've also said how many times the last few

971
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: years did we and not this year obviously? But I

972
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: think I think we're in a different regime.

973
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: I think they came out into the offseason and said quarterback, receiver,

974
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: tackle or their three biggest needs. Where did their first

975
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: three picks in the draft go to quarterback, receiver? Tackle?

976
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: So I personally think that this regime will be different

977
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: in that respect. I don't think that they're going to

978
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: go into next year and they're gonna draft a safety

979
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: or like a linebacker with a glaring need at left tackle.

980
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: My whole thing is is that I think that they

981
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: can survive the year at left tackle.

982
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 3: Okay, if it if it becomes clear they can't, I

983
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't just say, oh, well, Drake May is a big guy,

984
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 3: he can handle it and throw them out there if

985
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: it's a real problem. I think that impacts the decision

986
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 3: on Wendro.

987
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: I also just think, and I understand your point of

988
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: view that we did this with Mac and that they

989
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to be so hard for the quarterback right

990
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: like they should be making it easier on him at

991
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: some point in time, though the quarterback has to make

992
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: everybody else around them better. Absolutely, if the quarterback's the guy.

993
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: If if Drake May is a franchise QB in this

994
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: league and they have a little bit of a leaky

995
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: valve at left tackle, he will cover it up, sure,

996
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: and and and eventually, yes, but right now he's a rookie.

997
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: There's no need to push him, and it's not a

998
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: little bit of a leaky valve. At this point, you

999
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: don't really have a guy that's played that position consistently

1000
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL on your roster. It's a little more

1001
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: than a league. This is now my belief in Drake

1002
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: May more than anything, is it you? I'd feel better

1003
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: about it if it was your belief in Scott Peters

1004
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: rather than your belief in Drake Ma.

1005
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: No.

1006
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: I just think that Drake May is personally, and I've

1007
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: said this all along, I think that one of his

1008
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: best traits is his ability to handle pressure and his

1009
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: ability to pressure. Obviously, everyone would rather them not have

1010
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: to do it, but this is a weakness that they

1011
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: have on the team. I'm not sitting Drake May for

1012
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: the entire year while everybody is telling us that behind

1013
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: the scenes he's the best quarterback on the team. But

1014
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: because they don't have a stud at left tackle, we

1015
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: can't play it.

1016
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: But it's not because they don't have a stud. It's

1017
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: what if they if they have the worst left tackle

1018
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: play in the league.

1019
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they will. I don't think they will.

1020
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll have the worst left tackle playing

1021
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: in the league. That's all I'm telling you. I think

1022
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: I've told you why. I I they will get to

1023
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: a point next offseason where left tackle, in my mind,

1024
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: will be their first round pick. I think that when

1025
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: they pick six, seventh, eighth overall, or wherever they end

1026
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: up picking third overall, whatever, that I think that they're

1027
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: gonna take either Kelvin Banks Junior or the kid from LSU,

1028
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the pick. Like I could tell you,

1029
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: we could all tell you that probably a year in advance,

1030
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: that's who they're gonna have to take. So no one's

1031
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: sitting here saying that this is a long term plan

1032
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: is to have left tackle be your evolving door. Nobody

1033
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: wants that. That's not what anybody is advocating for, right

1034
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: But but what I'm just saying, even before you get there,

1035
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: just be careful. That's that's all I'm saying. If he

1036
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: if he wills, Drake may if he wilts, because there's

1037
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: some pressure coming off his left side, his rookie SAEs. Okay,

1038
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: But again I'm not talking If he wills, then he's

1039
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: not the guy. But I'm not talking about some pressure.

1040
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna be under pressure on every single

1041
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: drop back Like this is the other thing. I mean,

1042
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: pretty consistently if you're on I think there's a chance

1043
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: of that there's a pressure rate of you know, last

1044
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: year it got horror horrific. Last year got like peak,

1045
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: you know, fifty percent pressure rates some weeks, things like that.

1046
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: But the NFL, like this is the other thing that

1047
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: I think bugs me about the whole pressure conversation, because

1048
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: like you realize, the NFL average for pressure dropbacks is

1049
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: like twenty five percent, So you're you're talking about, Okay,

1050
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: a bad offensive line probably gives up pressure about thirty

1051
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: percent of the time. No, I'm saying, what if it's

1052
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: like last year. Last year in pockets it was really bad.

1053
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: So that's especially when they were playing for Darien Low

1054
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: on the right side. So that's what I'm saying, what

1055
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: if it's like that, But once they got to really

1056
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: once they got to Mike on Winnie playing right last year,

1057
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't horrible. It was bad, but it wasn't as

1058
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: catastrophically bad as it was when earlier on in the year.

1059
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: So if it was like it was in Dallas or

1060
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: like it was against New Orleans or a couple of

1061
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: the I think the early Jets game was like a

1062
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: fifty percent pressure raid or something like that. Then yeah,

1063
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: that that's that's that's an environment that you cannot survive in. No,

1064
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: and what have they done to change the position since then?

1065
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: They drafted a right tackle, They have different bodies in there,

1066
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: they have different coaches, so different coaches, so the coaches.

1067
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: If you're gonna tell me Scott Peters is going to

1068
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: fix it, I'm all in. But that's what I think.

1069
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm on. I don't want to say Scott Piers is

1070
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: going to fix it because I think that fix it

1071
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: is too strong of a way of putting it. I

1072
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: think I think they're gonna make it manage or make it. Me.

1073
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: If you're gonna tell me Scott Piers is going to

1074
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 3: make it manageable, then fine. If you're gonna tell me

1075
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: that it so pff. You know how strong I feel

1076
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 3: about this, I'm going to pff.

1077
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: Oh geez.

1078
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 3: Their highest rank left tackle last year was Connor McDermott.

1079
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 3: He was the thirty eighth ranked tackle in football. He's

1080
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 3: no longer on the team, and you understand why. I'm

1081
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: will hesitant about saying that position will be. They also

1082
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: didn't have an offensive line coach. They never not, and

1083
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: they didn't have a lot of Okay, so if you're

1084
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 3: gonna tell me, it's Scott Peters and there you go.

1085
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, if it's like it was last year, yes,

1086
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 3: I'm worried about putting Drake May in there.

1087
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 1: Don't worried.

1088
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 3: However, however good he is at handling pressure, because that's

1089
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: an extreme it's an extreme.

1090
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: Amount, man. I at some point we got to stop

1091
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: treating the quarterback with kid gloves. At some point he's

1092
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to go out there. Yes it's the NFL,

1093
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to make plays.

1094
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 3: At some point you do have stopped treating with the

1095
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 3: kid gloves his first start that you could still be

1096
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 3: a little careful.

1097
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: I'm not okay, I'm not saying right out of the gate.

1098
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: Also to to Patty's point about the Bengals, I they

1099
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: have had a track record of starting slow and finishing fact. Yeah,

1100
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a good point. But I actually

1101
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: think even on top of that, Burrow hasn't played a game.

1102
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: When's the last time that Burrow played it? Whatever, that

1103
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: Thursday night. Was no that that that's a sneaky winnable game.

1104
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: Ye'll say that, Yeah, I mean Burrow there. You have

1105
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: to think that there might be a little bit of

1106
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: rust with Burrow certainly, And on top of there being

1107
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of rust, how much is he

1108
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: really going to play in the preseason coming off an injury?

1109
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: Right?

1110
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: And you also have to look at is he I

1111
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: think he'll be the same guy. I'm not, but there

1112
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: is a chance away and there's a chance that it's

1113
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: an elbow injury. It was a weird injury. Wasn't a

1114
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: wrist injury it was it was I think it was

1115
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: an elbow.

1116
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: You're just terrible with these injuries. Say, I'm pretty sure

1117
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: because I remember that Thursday night came him grabbing in

1118
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: his hand. They kept showing him grabbing in his hand.

1119
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: Pretty sure it was an elbow. He had a torn

1120
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna try to pronounce so some ligament

1121
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: in his right wrist. Yeah, I think, but I think

1122
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: it was like wrist for arm elbow like it was.

1123
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: It was a throwing It is the scap haulunate ligament.

1124
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: You see what you're making me do here? Scap haul

1125
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: unit ligament, which is it's in the wrist. It's I mean,

1126
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: it's just it's in the wrist. Okay, well, risk injury,

1127
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: elbow injury. The point is, is that a injury to

1128
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: your throwing arm, hand, whatever you want to call the wrist.

1129
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: We got to see if it's gonna be the same

1130
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: for him, right, I mean that that that's only you know,

1131
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: and Andrew Luck got ruined by all the injuries.

1132
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 3: So remember the wrist bo is connected to the arm.

1133
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 3: What do you what, Oh, it's a rist, it's Snowboll's

1134
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 3: same thing. It's the same thing, arm injury actors. It's

1135
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 3: an arm injury to his throwing arm.

1136
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: That's all that matters. Okay, And that we're getting feisty today,

1137
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: geez my goodness. I think he's jealous. I think that's

1138
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: what it is. Uh So that that's that's my point

1139
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: with the Bengals, there's more so than maybe their history

1140
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: out of the gate, is that it's probably gonna be

1141
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: the first time that Joe Burrow has played like a

1142
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: real game in a year. So well also, and I

1143
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: think he will but playing, Yeah, he'll play I think so. Yeah.

1144
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are running it back for one

1145
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: more one more try. Yeah, but I don't think he's

1146
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna play on the tag. I think they're actually gonna

1147
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: have to pay him if they wanted to do that.

1148
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: He he, he might sit a couple of games out

1149
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: and see what happens. I'm not saying that we're we're

1150
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: giving them a win in Week one against the Bengals'

1151
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm not getting so. Yeah. So if the quarterback is

1152
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: still hurt from last year really badly, and if the

1153
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: receiver holds out to the regular season, which nobody's really

1154
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: done since Le'Veon Bell and Scott Peters and Scott Peters

1155
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: is the second coming to Dante Scarnekia, and like half

1156
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals, you know, forget their cleats back in Cincinnati

1157
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: and have to play in basketball shoes and you know,

1158
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: the games innaddy But okay, yeah, forget them at home. Yeah,

1159
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 1: points stands. Maybe they ate like a bunch of bad

1160
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: Skyline chili.

1161
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, it was a bad order Skyline chili

1162
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 3: the night before. And then yeah, Patriots, it's not if

1163
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 3: we were to rank the the easiest to the hardest

1164
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 3: games on the schedule, I actually think that game is

1165
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: probably closer to the middle most.

1166
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: People if you're going to have to play the Bengals.

1167
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: So I think at the end of the year are

1168
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: going to be a Super Bowl contender and maybe a

1169
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: n AFC Championship Game participant. Playing him in Week one

1170
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: is the way should we do? Should we do? All? Right?

1171
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 3: What's the hardest game on the schedule? San Francis San

1172
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: Francisco one? Okay, second hardest game on the schedule. I'm

1173
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: gonna give you a weird one. But I actually kind

1174
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: of believe this. At Miami, Yeah, Miami, it's later in

1175
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: the year, it's down there. It's a good team, I

1176
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: would say. Okay, So i'd say is home versus Miami

1177
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 3: a tougher game the Cincinnati.

1178
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: Probably not, because because.

1179
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 3: Just home against Seattle, I think is an easier game.

1180
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 3: At the Jets Thursday night is definitely a tougher game, definitely.

1181
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think at Bills is definitely a tougher

1182
00:55:54,600 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: at Bill's home against Texans. No, I still I still

1183
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: give it to the Bengals. Bengals a tougher game, okay, yeah,

1184
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: just because it's home. And I think the Texans, well,

1185
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: we'll see, Okay, you know, they made some good moves

1186
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: this offseason. No, I have to admit, but we'll see.

1187
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: So wait, so you say Texans is a tougher game. No,

1188
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: I think Texasan's easy. Okay. Jaguars London, that's an easier game. Yeah,

1189
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: Jets at home.

1190
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: I think that that's a relatively like a neutral game,

1191
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 3: because I think at that point, is it a tougher

1192
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 3: game the Bengals?

1193
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 4: Yes? Or no?

1194
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: No? Okay, at Titans, No at Bears, no, Rams at home?

1195
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: Rams at home? Is that a tougher game? Uh?

1196
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 4: No?

1197
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: Okay?

1198
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 3: Uh, we did Dolphins home against the Colts. Is not

1199
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 3: a tougher game at the Cardinals is not? We did

1200
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 3: one Bills game? How about the other Bills game? Builds

1201
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: it home?

1202
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: I would say it Bills at Home's easier game? Okay?

1203
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 3: And then Chargers obviously an easier game coming out here.

1204
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 3: All right, So that's that we have that as the

1205
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: fifth hardest game on the schedule, which that sounds about right.

1206
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Can we not crown the Chargers yet, Let's not

1207
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: crown the crowded or not.

1208
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 3: Let's the West Coast LA indoor team coming here in

1209
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 3: late December. How many times we've Herbert stucked here. I

1210
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 3: know that Jim Harbaugh is a good coach. I know

1211
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 3: he's got a good track.

1212
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: I was so ready to crown them in the past

1213
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: despite their idiot coach. I mean times crown that guy

1214
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: they have.

1215
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 3: Now they have another idiot coach that I'm less will

1216
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: in a crown, So you don't have to worry about

1217
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: that with me.

1218
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: My only concern and I know this in three years

1219
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: actually town, if I'm totally wrong, then I'm gonna take

1220
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: an idiot. But my biggest concern with the Drake May

1221
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: era is that it's going to be just like Justin Herbert,

1222
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: where he's great, but the team just isn't winning and

1223
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: for some reason, as great as the quarterback stats are

1224
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. I love Justin Herbert.

1225
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: I think he's an incredible talent, but for whatever reason

1226
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: he the team doesn't doesn't. I can tell you what

1227
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: the whatever reasons are. One, injuries that team had. They're

1228
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: always top heavy, and they don't have.

1229
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: They get a ton of injuries and the medical staff

1230
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: there has been a problem for a long time. Okay, two, yeah,

1231
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 3: the worst coaching in the league. Justin Herbert has had

1232
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 3: the worst coaching in the league that not up there

1233
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: the coach. The coach actively kept them out of the playoffs.

1234
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: Once that was it was games with names the other

1235
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 3: week Julian Edelman and as I've gotta listened to it,

1236
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 3: I want to and Max Crosby remember that overtime. Yeah,

1237
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: so injuries, Yeah, the worst coaching in the league and

1238
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 3: a pretty tough division, and the Patriots can avoid two

1239
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 3: of those three.

1240
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: We're never going to put it on the quarterback, like,

1241
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: at some point in time, every great quarterback, every quarterback

1242
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: that's truly a great quarterback, which I think a lot

1243
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: of people think justin Herbert is, at some point in

1244
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: time they they put the team on their back.

1245
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: I'm not saying, Look, I'm not saying that it's entirely

1246
00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: that Herbert's entirely blame.

1247
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm not saying that, oh, nobody's denying Herbert's talent.

1248
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying it's not even like, oh, if

1249
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 3: he had a decent coach, he'd be the best quarterback

1250
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: in the league. But he has had an anchor straft

1251
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 3: to him in a way no other title quarterback in

1252
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 3: this league has had.

1253
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

1254
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: Now, I don't think Harvard's a great coach either, so

1255
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: not much better in that regard. Maybe you know they've

1256
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: gotten rid of some of those older injury prone players.

1257
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: Maybe that turns something around.

1258
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, it's not. For whatever reason, the Chargers

1259
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: don't win with that.

1260
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, it's they had the worst coach with his

1261
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 3: nose buried in an Excel spreadsheet.

1262
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I know Brandan Staley catching strays even

1263
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: though he doesn't have a job. I'm wonder why that

1264
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: is he does. Didn't somebody hire him as a consultant,

1265
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: maybe like the Niners. You know, he might be on

1266
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: like somebody's defensive staff somewhere.

1267
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the assistant head coach with forty nine guys.

1268
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 3: I thought, so, yeah, that's that's that's an alarming coaching staff.

1269
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that. I'm not a big QB wins guy.

1270
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm not, but I just think that in general, more

1271
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: times than not, if a quarterback is as good as

1272
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: some people say, Justin Herbert is that team's pretty good

1273
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: even if they underachieve ultimately, Like if a couple of

1274
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: years ago when they lost in the playoffs, Ers and

1275
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: that the thirty one nothing like Trevor Lawrence come back game.

1276
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 4: Right.

1277
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: That was the Chargers that even if they end up

1278
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: losing the playoffs, there's still like a nine to ten

1279
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: win team just because the quarterback is you know, in

1280
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: the offense and all.

1281
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 3: Right, No, but again, so I don't I don't think

1282
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 3: the Patriots coaching will be that bad. Ever, I don't

1283
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: think any team's coaching will be that bad.

1284
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 4: Ever.

1285
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the coach actively decided let's not make

1286
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs.

1287
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: They've generally had a very strong medical staff here, but

1288
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 3: Hunter Henry's a great example of this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, was with the Chargers. No, their medical staff is

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Speaker 1: notoriously right.

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01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: Whis constantly hurt comes here and he's been I think

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Speaker 3: he's missed what three games in his three years here?

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Speaker 1: Something like that.

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01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know that that you hope again it's

1295
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 3: not to totally play Kate Herbert, but there are certainly

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Speaker 3: things outside of his control.

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Speaker 1: That are just I'm just not crown them the Chargers yet.

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Speaker 1: But are you desperate for in desperate need of a

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Speaker 1: great night's sleep? Alex kind of seems like it. I'm

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01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: on like four hours sleep and the football Trailers about

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Speaker 1: in Arkansas. What's up, Jay, Jay, Jay? It's up all right,

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Speaker 1: give us give us a call back, Jay, and we'll

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Speaker 1: get you on the air. We want to do some

1312
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: Rookie Minicamp. Do some Rookie Minicamp takeaways. My biggest takeaway

1313
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: of Rocky Mini Camp is that we should have zero

1314
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: takeaways from Rookie Mini Camp. That's it pretty much. I'm

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01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: gonna give you takeaways because that's our job. Our job

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01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: is to give you takeaways. But if you went out

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01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: to that practice, seriously, went out to that practice on Saturday,

1318
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: watched one hour of the Glorified Combine that we watched

1319
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: like literally just guys running around and shorts and a

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01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: T shirt having a good time, And you came away

1321
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: with that with some thesis on any of these players,

1322
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: any sort of real, concrete I feel this way type

1323
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: of stance on any of these players, then I don't know,

1324
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you like that. That

1325
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: is a major overreaction on your part. This was a

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01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,959
Speaker 1: one hour practice on a Saturday morning on rookie mini

1327
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: camp where half the guys on the field were rookie

1328
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: tryout players that aren't gonna be on NFL rosters. The

1329
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: other half of the guys were in their like second

1330
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: practice in the NFL ever, and nobody was in pads.

1331
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: There was one period of seven on seven where there

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01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: was semi real football and it wasn't. I wouldn't even

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01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: call it real football. I'd called semi real football. And

1334
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: yet we have people I'm not gonna name names. I'm

1335
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: trying to be better about that. We have people that

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01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: are are saying these these huge proclamations. I don't have

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01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: any huge proclamations. I think a couple of things that

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Speaker 1: impressed me or stood out to me about Mini Camp.

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01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing was when you look at

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01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: Drake May and Joe Milton size wise, arm strength wise, athleticism,

1341
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: just like you can tell these two guys or athletes

1342
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: they passed that initial eye test for me of NFL

1343
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: caliber athlete at the position. That's just about as far

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Speaker 1: as I'll go. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The one thing I mean just there's certain things you

1346
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 3: just got to see in person. You already saw it.

1347
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 3: You know, these quarterbacks in person, both of.

1348
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Speaker 1: Them, so you had that.

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01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, But Jalen Polk, just if one observation is he

1350
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 3: was moving, he move was really smooth for guyas size,

1351
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: which is encouraging. Beyond that, I mean, they're getting Kiten

1352
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: Wallace and Layden Robinson ready to go on the left side.

1353
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 3: That's where the jobs will be to compete for. And yeah,

1354
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 3: like you said, I mean what they were doing, you know,

1355
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 3: like Bill used to say at the start of OTI,

1356
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 3: it's like what we're doing really doesn't resemble football.

1357
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think the biggest thing that you know,

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01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: in terms of the quarterbacks will stick with that. I

1359
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: don't think we really saw and I said this to you.

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01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was on the show that

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01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: we did, the sports Hub podcast that we did together,

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Speaker 1: but I don't really think we really saw for either

1363
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: guy Joe Milton or Drake May, the old driver come

1364
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Speaker 1: out of the bag. You know, this was not a

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01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: practice to showcase Drake May's arm talent, Like, this was

1366
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: not a practice that they were throwing the ball down

1367
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: the field a time that they were asking him to

1368
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: drive the ball a ton. You haven't seen the real

1369
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: Drake May experience quite yet, I'll tell you that right.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I would just say quickly, they're really

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Speaker 1: going slow, and they were really they're going half speed

1372
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: for a lot of these drills. Yeah, so that was

1373
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: something too. And I gotta take a drink of this.

1374
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: But I know you're over there, you're you're worried about

1375
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: the NCAA trailer they for release.

1376
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 3: They just said the release date and the rest of

1377
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: it's coming tomorrow. But yeah, it's just it's not I mean,

1378
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 3: most it was against air. They did that one seven

1379
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 3: on seven period late in practice, and that was walk

1380
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: through pace. You really can't There's not a lot you

1381
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 3: can take away from in terms of like, oh, will

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01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 3: this guy be good?

1383
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: Will this guy not? Yeah? So I think the good

1384
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: thing about what they're doing with Drake May, from what

1385
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: I can see, is well, he he talked about it afterwards.

1386
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: They're changing up his stances and I wrote about it

1387
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: in the mail bag this week, and it's probably easier

1388
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: to understand with visuals, which is what I tried to

1389
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: give people with Baker Mayfield in this offense. So Alex

1390
01:05:55,320 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: finn Pelt is a big believer in in shotgun, the

1391
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: quarterback in their staggered stance and shotgun has the left

1392
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: foot forward. He wants the left foot up, left foot forward.

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01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: That's what they're doing with Drake may The biggest reason is,

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01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: I personally think for righty quarterback is that it's very

1395
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 1: difficult for a righty quarterback to open to the left

1396
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: side of the field in a shotgun quick game drop

1397
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: like a one step drop if you're right foot forward,

1398
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: because you're just your body is just naturally close to

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01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: the left side. So if you put your left foot forward,

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01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: it allows you to open up your hips and open

1401
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: up your shoulders easier to the le left hand side

1402
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: of the field, makes those throw easier. I also think

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01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: there's a little bit more rhythm or like fluidity to

1404
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: the drop as well, because with the left foot forward

1405
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: you have an extra step, so right foot forward you're

1406
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: always just gonna swing the right foot back behind you

1407
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: step into the throw and throw the ball with the

1408
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: left foot forward. You go swing left foot back, then

1409
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: swing right foot back, then throw. So there's that extra

1410
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: step program in there, which I think leads it to

1411
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: be less robotic, like it's arrests just kind of robotic,

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01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit stiff, I think at times

1413
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: with right foot forward quarterbacks now. But that being said,

1414
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: there's no catch all here. Patrick Mahomes is a right

1415
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: foot forward quarterback, so the best quarterback in the world

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01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: puts his right foot forward. Tom Brady was mostly left

1417
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: foot forward. Aaron Rodgers learned in this system, so he

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01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: was left foot forward. Peyton Manning, as you all probably notorious,

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01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: remember a square he was even stance and shotgun. So

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Speaker 1: there's a million different ways to do it well three,

1421
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: but there's different ways to do it, and there's no

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01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: right answer. But I think what I like most about

1423
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: it is that whether you believe in it or not,

1424
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: there's a game plan like this is what this is

1425
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: a playbook of. Here's how your feet are going to look,

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01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: Drake May And we can pull up Aaron Rodgers, we

1427
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: can pull up Baker mayfield. We can pull up successful

1428
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: enful quarterbacks and say this is how it looked when

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01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: they did it. So I think that's a big element

1430
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: of it. I think that there's a lot more rhythm

1431
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: to it. I think that your feed are in sync

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01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: a lot more. I think it's easier to throw the

1433
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: left side of the field. I think a lot of

1434
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: those things are in the advantage of the left foot

1435
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 1: up really right foot up. I think the biggest advantage

1436
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: is that obviously the ball comes out a little bit

1437
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: quicker because there's not that extra step, and then a

1438
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks just feel more comfortable with it. It's

1439
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: a comfort thing. So at some point in time in

1440
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: his career, Drake may might be hopefully you know good

1441
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: enough that he can say I'm going to stand the

1442
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: way I want to stand. As a rookie coming into

1443
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: the league. You're gonna do what Alex van Pelt tells

1444
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: you to do. And that's what girod Meyo said before

1445
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 1: practice as well, that Alex van Pelt is going to

1446
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: be the lead guy. So that was the other takeaway

1447
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: I had, other than the footwork. They drilled dropbacks from

1448
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: under center and from shotgun as you would expect they're

1449
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: working on the under center stuff coming out from under center.

1450
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: That's going to be an adjustment period for all these

1451
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coming out of college now, even Bailey, z Appy

1452
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: and Mac Jones barely spent time under shotguns or under center,

1453
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: so that's an adjustment. The other big takeaway from the quarterbacks,

1454
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 1: I would say is just that four that quartet of

1455
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: coaches I was working with them, Alex Vann, PELTC. McCartney.

1456
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: That's obvious, the T. C. McCartney being the quarterbacks coach,

1457
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: Ben McAdoo. I think that's pretty obvious as well. That

1458
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in there and then off to the

1459
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: side and the arms folded like he's Ernie Adams was

1460
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: Evan Rosstein. So he's gonna be there, not as a

1461
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: hands on coach, but as somebody that's gonna be observing,

1462
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: just observing, just watching. Yeah, and that he's probably there

1463
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: now just because that's where he's a signed, But I

1464
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: think he's more because they've talked about him maybe getting

1465
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: back into that Ernie Adams role.

1466
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you know once you actually start game planning.

1467
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: Once he gets to September and October and they actually

1468
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 3: start game planning for opponents. That's where I think he

1469
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 3: becomes more vocal, because he'll be the one that's breaking

1470
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 3: down the film and telling the quarterbacks what to look

1471
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 3: for pre snap, in ternament of tenancies and things like that.

1472
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I think that that group though, I'm

1473
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: cautiously optimistic, saying almost similar to my left tackle opinions,

1474
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm cautiously optimistic that Alex van Pelt knows what he's

1475
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: doing with these quarterbacks, just because of the fact that

1476
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: I have proven track record of this is what he

1477
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: believes in, this is what they are gonna be doing

1478
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: with Drake May and there are some success stories along

1479
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: the way for Alex van Pelt as well. Yeah, receivers,

1480
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 1: Jalen Polk, you mentioned really smooth, really smooth. Maybe he's

1481
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: not gonna be the most explosive, he's not gonna be

1482
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: the fastest guy in a straight line. He's not gonna

1483
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: be a tyree kill, he's not going to take the

1484
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: top off the defense. But I think what you notice

1485
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: with him is how natural it all comes to him,

1486
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't look like he's trying all that hard sometimes,

1487
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: like it's just really smooth, natural movements, catches, the ball

1488
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: really easily. He just looks like somebody that's been playing

1489
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: receiver his whole life. He looks like a vet in

1490
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: a lot of ways already at that position. Seems to

1491
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: understand how they get open at the top of the route,

1492
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 1: understands how to you know, throw fakes and head fakes

1493
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: and shoulder fakes and things like that to throw off coverage.

1494
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: We'll see if he's ultimately it's gonna come down to

1495
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: whether or not he has the speed to separate. That's

1496
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: gonna be the number one thing. But I think first

1497
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 1: impressions that is what stood out to me. There's a

1498
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: lot of really good receivers that I've watched, not necessarily

1499
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: in Patriots practice, but in joint practices and things like that,

1500
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: that aren't burners, but they are just so crafty with

1501
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 1: it and so natural with it, and everything looks so

1502
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: smooth that you can see that, Okay, that's an NFL receiver.

1503
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: That's sort of how I came away from Jalen Pole. Yeah.

1504
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 3: I think we said this after they drafted him, like

1505
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 3: they went out, they drafted a football player. He may

1506
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 3: not be the best athlete, but he's a really good

1507
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 3: football player. And yeah, as long as he has that

1508
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 3: baseline level of athleticism, which we think he does, he's

1509
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 3: gonna be a He's gonna be a factor.

1510
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1511
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: I think that early on in the process some people

1512
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: were using the Jacobe Myers cop and I didn't really

1513
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: see it. I just didn't really see it with Jalen Polk.

1514
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: I thought Jalen Polk is more in a straight line

1515
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: type of guy. But I think what we saw the

1516
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 1: other day is maybe that was just Washington's offense. Like

1517
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: Washington's offense is just a vertical based offense where it

1518
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: was bombs away. I think now that you see him

1519
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: a little bit more up close, there's a lot of

1520
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers, you know, like a little bit of a

1521
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: slender frame but tall, good size to him for an

1522
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 1: inside receiver, great, great hands, body control. IQ just waits

1523
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 1: about him, craftiness about him. I can see the comps

1524
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: with Jacoby a little bit more and more every single day.

1525
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that he is going to be running

1526
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: fade routes and posts and all deep overs and like

1527
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: all that stuff that he was running out of Washington.

1528
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 1: I think that was a Washington thing. Yeah. With Javon Baker,

1529
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: definitely saw a little bit more twitch and like explosiveness

1530
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: with Javon Baker. You could see that, you could see

1531
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: the change of gears, you could see the explosiveness through

1532
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 1: the top of the right. He got a slant. I

1533
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: think it was against the air. I'm not like trying

1534
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: to make a big deal out of it, but he

1535
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: caught a slant coming over the middle of the field

1536
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: and he was accelerating through the break and then when

1537
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: he caught the ball, you could see some of that juice,

1538
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 1: that explosiveness with the football in his hands, but certainly

1539
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more raw as we expected. Like this,

1540
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: these both these guys were as advertised in my mind.

1541
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: You know, Javon Baker had a couple drops during drills.

1542
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: I think his route running is still needs some work

1543
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: at the top of the route, specifically in terms of

1544
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: his footwork, but I I'll ultimately think that they came

1545
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: as advertised. Jalen Polk is the technician, He's the pro,

1546
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: He's the the steady eddy. Javon Baker's got some real

1547
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: twitch and explosiveness to him, and I think he's gonna

1548
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: catch a lot of passes down the field.

1549
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the thing that stands out with me

1550
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 3: like he even in a practice setting where there's not

1551
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 3: a ton of press, there's no pressure on him in

1552
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 3: terms of coverage. He's going out the football. He's going

1553
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 3: out reaching for the ball and plucking it out of

1554
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 3: the air. And especially in New England where you know

1555
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 3: it's gonna be windy, it's gonna be cold, it's gonna

1556
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 3: be wet. Being a strong handsketcher, being able to go

1557
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 3: get the ball away from your body is so important.

1558
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 3: It's clearly something that he takes a ton of pride in.

1559
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I thought there was one catch that he

1560
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,759
Speaker 1: had where he just came back and attacked the football.

1561
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: In seven on seven, Drake May threw a deep pitch

1562
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: to him on the outside from the far hash and

1563
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: what I loved about it was Baker did not wait

1564
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: for the ball. You know, he really went and went

1565
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: through contact and made sure he got back to the football.

1566
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: You Know, that was a throw that we talk about

1567
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 1: accessing like different parts of the field, that these two

1568
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are gonna access different parts of the field than

1569
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: mac Jones and Bailey Zappi because of their arm strength,

1570
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: those outside the numbers, driving the ball outside the numbers,

1571
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: type plays are examples of that, but that doesn't mean

1572
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: that the receiver can just sit there and wait on it.

1573
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: You still have to have guys go and attack the ball.

1574
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: I still think the best deep hitch comeback route runner

1575
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: I've seen on the Patriots is Malcolm Mitchell. He was

1576
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: awesome at it, and he was always coming back to

1577
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 1: the ball. I saw that a little bit with not

1578
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: saying that they are similar players necessarily, but I saw

1579
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,759
Speaker 1: that a little bit with Javon Baker as well Cadon Wallace.

1580
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing I noticed with Kate and Wallace,

1581
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: he's a little bit bigger than I even expected. Wide body,

1582
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 1: you know, big, wide, girthy guy. I think he's got

1583
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: some really good size to him. Maybe not as long

1584
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: as you would like it a prototypical left tackle to be.

1585
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: But even in the rookie mini camp photo that we

1586
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: took that we posted on Twitter on the final day,

1587
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 1: you see him standing in like a group of people

1588
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: and he's just like a behemoth in the middle of everybody.

1589
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: He's a big guy and a smart, intelligent kid. Talking

1590
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 1: to him after practice seemed like I had a good

1591
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: head on his shoulders. I will see no pads. So

1592
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and say offensive lineman did anything,

1593
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: but we'll see.

1594
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 3: Oh, they only wrapped him at left tackle, which I

1595
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 3: think is encouraging because that's the plan. You got to

1596
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 3: put every minute, every resource you have, and he getting

1597
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 3: him ready because it's not an easy adjustment doesn't mean

1598
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 3: he can't do it, but it takes a lot of

1599
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 3: work from him.

1600
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: It takes a lot of work from the team. Yeah,

1601
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: Leyden Robinson maybe liking it a little bit more. With

1602
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: Leyden Robinson too. I know we're pretty optimistic about all

1603
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: these guys right now. That's the draft, right you get

1604
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: all these guys and everybody's going to be a Hall

1605
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: of Famer. I'm not saying nat but very very big dude,

1606
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: strong upper body like you could just see him standing there,

1607
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: a very barrel chested type of guy, a good strength

1608
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: to him. It was interesting to me that he was

1609
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: repping at left guard. I think that that's the spot

1610
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: that there is the wild card on the interior. Right now,

1611
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: you have Andrews at center. I think that they're pretty

1612
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: much in trench with City so playing right guard. Barring injury,

1613
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: he's going to be there as he should yeah, Mike

1614
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: on when who's going to be at right tackle, left guard?

1615
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: But right now, for Cole Strange is not a shoeing like,

1616
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: He's not a guarantee to be ready health wise, and

1617
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: I don't think performance wise it's a guarantee that he's

1618
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: going to be the guy. I think Leyden Robinson's gonna

1619
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: have a legitimate shot to start there.

1620
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what it tells me, like they're they're

1621
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 3: like with Wallace, They're repping him on the left side.

1622
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 3: They want him to be ready to go at that spot,

1623
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 3: so when you get to the competitive part of camp,

1624
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 3: he's ready to compete.

1625
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. From a mental standpoint, absolutely, Okay, So moving down

1626
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about Joe Milton already. We

1627
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: haven't talked about Marcella's Dial, who was the one drafted

1628
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: defensive player on the field. I think I spent all

1629
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: of ten minutes watching the defensive side of the field

1630
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 1: when they broke things up. But the one thing that

1631
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: was interesting about Dial was he was playing outside corner.

1632
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: It seems like they're gonna at least try to develop

1633
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 1: him in there to start.

1634
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 3: And I think that's that's where the biggest need is

1635
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 3: and he you know, he showed he's not. We talked

1636
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 3: about him maybe playing safety, and sometimes there's corners that

1637
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 3: you watch in college that you just look at and

1638
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 3: you say, Okay, he's gonna be a safety in the NFL.

1639
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: You just know it. I don't think Dials that kind

1640
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: of player.

1641
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 3: I don't know that he'll work out as a corner

1642
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 3: for sure, but there's enough there that it's like, Okay,

1643
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 3: he deserves like an actual genuine look at disposition at

1644
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 3: the NFL level, and they're gonna give him that.

1645
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has the looks of an outside corner. He's

1646
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: got these I've eleven or maybe six feet tall, if

1647
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: depending on who's measuring. You know, he's got some size,

1648
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: he's got some length. He's got a great ball skills

1649
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: on the on paper, at least, I think he had

1650
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 1: thirty one pass breakups in his career in college. I

1651
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: didn't have a ton of interceptions. Now, a lot of

1652
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: pass deflections. Not a ton of interceptions though. But he's

1653
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: six foot one ninety at the combine. Yeah, six foot

1654
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 1: one ninety with like a four to four I mean

1655
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 1: that's an outside four four six forty and a half

1656
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,919
Speaker 1: inch vertical that's an outside corner build and athletic profile.

1657
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: So I definitely would would see what you have there

1658
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: first thirty two arms too, and then and then maybe

1659
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: if it fails there, that's when you move him inside

1660
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: to safety. Yeah.

1661
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's a lock to stick at corner,

1662
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 3: but there's, like you said, there's enough there that you

1663
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 3: at least have not and you have to give him

1664
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 3: a real look. Not all right, we're gonna play out

1665
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 3: here for a couple of weeks and OTA's and move

1666
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 3: you back to say two, and we start install Like No,

1667
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 3: I want to see him playing kind of like Isaiah

1668
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 3: Bolden last year. Remember we talked about Isaiah Bolden maybe

1669
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 3: play and obviously he got hurt and he didn't get

1670
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 3: to finish out the preseason, but we talked about him

1671
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 3: maybe playing some free safety. But there was an enough

1672
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 3: there we saw on Camper. It's like, let this guy

1673
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 3: play out on the boundary one on one against receivers

1674
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 3: in some preseason games and let's actually see what this

1675
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 3: looks like because there may be something there.

1676
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 1: Right, and then James Bell, the last draft pick. I

1677
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: don't think that James Bell, this is not the setting

1678
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: for James bell Is. He is the least. There's the

1679
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: least you can tell about him of any of the players. Yeah,

1680
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: he's a pads on kind of guy. Well it's not

1681
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 1: just that.

1682
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 3: His real value I think comes from his ability to

1683
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 3: line up in all these different places and have all

1684
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 3: these different roles in the offense. They're just going through

1685
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 3: basic technique at this point, they're not really starting installs.

1686
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 3: So what's gonna be interesting to fall about bell Is?

1687
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 3: How are they using him? You didn't see there was

1688
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 3: no indication of any of that.

1689
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: A greatest week. Yeah, they're not getting into all that.

1690
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: That's a great point. And I didn't think that he

1691
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: had some juice up the seam though. And he made

1692
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: a nice over the shoulder catch where I thought he

1693
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: made a decent adjustment on the ball. I can't remember

1694
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 1: if that was from Drake Mayor or Joe Milton. I

1695
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: want to say Drake may where I thought he made

1696
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: a nice usman on the ball and kind of contorted

1697
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: his body a little bit to call in the past.

1698
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that I think stood out to

1699
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: me watching him a little bit more at FSCU once

1700
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: they made the pick. He really does catch the ball

1701
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: well down the field. You know, we talk about him

1702
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: as this like H back prospect, which I think ultimately

1703
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: is what he's going to be most of the time.

1704
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: But he has that four to six speed to stretch

1705
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: the scene. But I also think he catches the ball

1706
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: down the field really well too, better than some guys

1707
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: that are in that mold. You know, Like I think

1708
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: when you think of that H back, do you think

1709
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: of like a Kyle used check type. I don't think

1710
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: that he's going to be the blocker that Kyle used

1711
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: check is, or the IQ player that Kyle used check is,

1712
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 1: or any of those elements that use check brings to

1713
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: the table. But when it comes to stretching the seam,

1714
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: getting above a linebacker safety and being able to actually

1715
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: go in and make adjustments and catch the ball and

1716
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: things like that, I think he's a natural tight end

1717
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: in those acts.

1718
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 3: Well, it goes back to you know when we were

1719
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 3: going to the draft, is he's not a true in

1720
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 3: line tight in line tight end. Yeah, he's somewhere between

1721
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 3: an H back and a big slot receiver, which is

1722
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 3: kind of in some ways a traditional tight end, but

1723
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 3: it's not like, Yeah, I think there are probably some

1724
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 3: teams that looked at him as a big slot receiver

1725
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 3: in the draft.

1726
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I definitely think that there's more

1727
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: there down the field than again those like typical at

1728
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage type of h bats. I think

1729
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,799
Speaker 1: that he's got a little bit more ability, not necessarily

1730
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: to run routes, like I don't think he's gonna break

1731
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: down at the top of the route and create it.

1732
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: He's not a big slot receiver, Yeah, he's not. He's

1733
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 1: he's a little clunky in terms of his short area quickness.

1734
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 1: He's a true tweener. Yeah, it's an interesting player. I

1735
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: think that the you know, I was talking to his

1736
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: coach down there at Florida State. I wrote his profile

1737
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 1: for Patriots dot com. You can read that. It's up

1738
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: on Patriots dot com already, and I was talking to

1739
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: his coach down there. I sawking to Jim Nagy from

1740
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. He was bell as a Senior Bowl guy.

1741
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: And the big thing that I think, you know, the

1742
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: takeaway from Naggy was those guys that are tweeners that

1743
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: like don't really have a position. Some teams are just

1744
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: scared of trying to figure it out, Like how do

1745
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: we figure this guy out, you know, where is he

1746
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna be on raw talent alone? Jahem Bell was probably

1747
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: like a fifth round pick, you know, somebody that was

1748
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: an earlier pick. And I think that that's why, at

1749
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 1: least I do, and I think you do as well.

1750
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 1: We look at him as a different cat than the

1751
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: seventh round pick. Like I sort of felt the same way.

1752
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to put this type of expectations on him,

1753
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 1: but I sort of felt the same way about Pop Douglas,

1754
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 1: where like the knock on him was obviously small school

1755
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: in size, right, but when you watched him play football,

1756
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: whether it was at the Shrine Bowl, whether it was

1757
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: at Liberty, this guy clearly moved at a dynamic in

1758
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: a dynamic way. You know, He's clearly a guy that

1759
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: had some real legit talent. And that's why when they

1760
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 1: drafted him in the sixth round, we said, this isn't

1761
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: a normal sixth round pick. This is a guy that

1762
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,560
Speaker 1: has some real juice and can be a contributor and

1763
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: a team. I feel the same way about Jahem Bell.

1764
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: I feel like he's not your normal seventh round pick.

1765
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, we both thought he was like a fourth,

1766
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 1: fifth round pick something like that.

1767
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 3: So this isn't like, oh, they drafted him, we got

1768
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 3: to hype him up now like we've been on the

1769
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 3: record that we like Jahem Bell. All right, any of

1770
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 3: the DFAs stand out to you, I'll well, I wanted

1771
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 3: to watch see what they were gonna do with Zuri

1772
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 3: Henry and then he was the one guy that wasn't

1773
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 3: out there the same thing with Just like you see

1774
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 3: guys move in person and it looks a little different.

1775
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 3: I thought Deshaun Fenwick moved pretty well for back his

1776
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 3: size in the very I can't emphasize, it's not very

1777
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 3: very very limited sample size we saw, but I thought

1778
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 3: he moved well first size, and again I think he's

1779
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 3: a guy that can compete for that third running back roles.

1780
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: So that to me, and we did this last week.

1781
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: We did the offensive recent and we we're gonna I

1782
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: probably pushed the defensive one to next week. I forgot

1783
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: about schedule, release and all that stuff, but that to

1784
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: me is still still the area of the roster other

1785
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 1: than I other than left tackle. I'm not trying to

1786
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 1: say that I don't care about tackles. Don't hit me

1787
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: with that, but you care more about the third running back.

1788
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm worried about the running You care worried about the

1789
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: third running back the starting left I wouldn't put it down.

1790
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm way I just out of all the areas on

1791
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 1: the roster right now that you look at and you

1792
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 1: just start talking about number of NFL players at the spot,

1793
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: obviously tackle is the biggest one. Yeah, okay, now you

1794
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 1: don't care. I would say that there's no place on

1795
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: defense where I'm like, they don't have enough NFL players here.

1796
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: I think they're I think they got tons of depth

1797
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: on defense, I mean free safety. But if they're not

1798
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: going to use the true free safety, they don't really

1799
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 1: need one, right if you want to, if you want

1800
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: to break it up in traditional free safety strong safety positions,

1801
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 1: I guess I hear where you're coming from. But just safety,

1802
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 1: they got tons of safety. Yeah, yeah, right. There's really

1803
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: no other spot on the roster that I look at

1804
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: that I'm like, man, like, do they have four NFL

1805
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,560
Speaker 1: players at this spot? Besides running back? Running back is

1806
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: the one spot where I think they have two NFL players? Yeah, proven, Yeah, actual,

1807
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: I can say that's a fair take. Now, as you

1808
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: pointed out last week, you can add a running back

1809
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:14,799
Speaker 1: in August.

1810
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 3: It's kind of unique in that sense. So maybe that's

1811
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 3: why I'm not as worried about it. We'll see what

1812
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 3: Fenwick gives them. We'll see if maybe Kevin Harris gives

1813
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 3: them something. You know, they cut Keshan Vaughan. I actually

1814
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,560
Speaker 3: thought he might have had a chance just off his

1815
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 3: special team's ability, but I guess not.

1816
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like they liked what they saw from

1817
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: the two UDFA running backs. They signed another one. Obviously

1818
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: Fenwick was already here. Yeah, they signed the kid from

1819
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: Florida A and M. Yeah, so it seems like they

1820
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: liked what they saw from those guys. So we'll see.

1821
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mark mark the calendar that I actually

1822
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: am worried about running back. You're more worried about third

1823
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: string running back than starting left now, No, that's not true.

1824
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: That's that's what just happened. I literally just said that.

1825
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: That tackles the biggest one. You're you're more worried about

1826
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: the third string running back. I am worried about it. You're, Yeah,

1827
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm worried about it. I'm not gonna deny that You're

1828
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: gonna go into your Madden franchise and fix it soon.

1829
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 3: I know it.

1830
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 1: I did not have a Madden franchise, but I know,

1831
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 1: but you're on the path to having one. This is

1832
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: the first Andre Stevenson has had a lot of wear

1833
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: and tear on the tires the last couple of years.

1834
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: You got injured last year with that tip drop tackle,

1835
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: the high ankle sprain. Antonio Gibson is the only other

1836
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: back that they have on this team that I'm like,

1837
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 1: all right, if they have to turn to this guy

1838
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 1: and give them twenty five touches, I feel good about it.

1839
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: Do you feel good about Kevin Harris?

1840
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 3: Like?

1841
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: What do we know about Kevin Harris? No, you're spot on,

1842
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: So then why are you giving me flack about it?

1843
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 3: Because I think they can get it fixed between now

1844
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 3: and then. They can't get tackle fixed.

1845
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: All right, last half hour here, we'll open up Marine.

1846
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: I exited out of the emails by accident. Can you

1847
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: come in here and fix it? Please? This is how

1848
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: like helpless I am with the emails. Is like I Marine,

1849
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: please come in and fix it. Thanks. All right, let's

1850
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: go to the calls. Tony is in Pennsylvania. I think, Pa,

1851
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: what's up? Tony?

1852
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 4: Yo? Yo?

1853
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 5: Man?

1854
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 2: Favorite?

1855
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 1: I love you. Thank you, Thanks Tony. Yep, yep, what

1856
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: you got.

1857
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's think about the whole running back situation.

1858
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 4: I thought they could have hit bigger.

1859
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: In the draft, and I thought they could have signed

1860
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 1: and some other free agents out there, Cakers. Yeah, that's

1861
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: what we were just talking about. Tony. Thanks for the

1862
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: call and thanks for listening. I was a little surprising

1863
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: in draft running back. Yeah, I was too. I think

1864
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: that it's one of those needs that they got laid

1865
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 1: in the draft. It was probably between drafting a defensive player, yeah,

1866
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: drafting another quarterback obviously Joe Milton and Jeane Bell, and

1867
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 1: they probably just felt like that those guys had great,

1868
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: higher grades and all that kind of stuff. I also

1869
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: wonder if they thank you, sir.

1870
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,799
Speaker 3: I wonder if they where they had and were created

1871
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,560
Speaker 3: because a lot of people thought he was going to

1872
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 3: get drafted. Yeah, and they're just running a lot of

1873
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 3: running backs fell in this draft. I wonder if they

1874
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 3: got to a point where they looked at it and said,

1875
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 3: we're gonna be able to get to Sean Fenwick is

1876
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 3: a UDFA. I they might like him, that's all, like

1877
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,640
Speaker 3: he's a he's a weird case. He didn't play a

1878
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,919
Speaker 3: ton in college, and usually they would be highly productive

1879
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 3: college running backs.

1880
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: Fenwick is not that he was a backup most of

1881
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 1: his career, but he does have a little bit of juice.

1882
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,759
Speaker 1: I was reading his his bio on in the Beast

1883
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: and that's that was the biggest takeaway that Dane had

1884
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 1: about Dan Brugler from the athletic hat about him was

1885
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 1: that it's kind of a weird situation where he has

1886
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: NFL talent, but he barely played in college, like relatively speaking,

1887
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: in six years, he only had one one hundred care season. Yeah,

1888
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 1: and and that's if you're an NFL talent at running

1889
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 1: back in college, then usually you you play a ton

1890
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: in college. You know, it's the opposite. And so maybe

1891
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 1: there's some untapped potential there for him that that maybe

1892
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:00,600
Speaker 1: he's more of like a draft pick. So that's what

1893
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1894
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 3: I'm not he's not going to come in and replace

1895
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 3: Ermandro Stevenson. Yeah, I'm not ruling him out on coming

1896
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 3: out being really impressive in the preseason. Us looking at

1897
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 3: that and saying, you know what, if he's their third back,

1898
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,560
Speaker 3: that's fine, that's solid. Like I think he can be

1899
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 3: a better player than like JJ Taylor, who obviously was

1900
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 3: in that role at one point. I think he'd be

1901
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 3: a better player than Kevin Harris, who's been in that role. Yeah,

1902
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 3: and that may be enough. That may be enough for

1903
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 3: the third running back. Bigger than JJ Taylor, more well

1904
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:28,759
Speaker 3: rounded than Kevin.

1905
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: Different player in J. J. Taylor.

1906
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like member JJ Taylor that year,

1907
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 3: but he was, Oh, here's this UDFA they found, and

1908
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 3: he can round out their running back depth.

1909
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's unrealistic to think Deshaun Fenwick.

1910
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 4: Can do that.

1911
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. All right. Adam is in Salt Lake City.

1912
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: What's up, Adam? Adam, Adam? Hello, you're on the air,

1913
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 1: going on. Sorry, we'll call back, Adam. We'll get you

1914
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 1: on here. Mark is in Connecticut. What's up? Mark?

1915
01:29:56,120 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, just things for you. Surery Brown still on

1916
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 4: the team.

1917
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: The coaching staff thing was, okay, he is. What is

1918
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: his role? I wish I had the roster a little

1919
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 1: bit ambiguous, but he's going to be working on with

1920
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football, probably more in like

1921
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: a quality. No, they had him listed on the on

1922
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: the roster.

1923
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 3: We got OTAs as a talent development coach, So they

1924
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 3: had him and Joe Kim that was the line and

1925
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 3: Joe Kim was listed with lineman, try Brown was listed

1926
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 3: with returners, So I think he's essentially a kick return coach.

1927
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1928
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 3: God.

1929
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 4: The other question, and this is a good one, if

1930
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 4: we knew that we were going to draft Joe Milton,

1931
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 4: why wouldn't we have drafted Marvin Harris junior with the

1932
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 4: third overall pick. I mean that, just to me, that's

1933
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 4: just crazy because Joe Milton is a project. But if

1934
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 4: you would have Marvin Harrison, You're going to be good

1935
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 4: for the next ten years.

1936
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: Based on what.

1937
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 4: Based on his talent?

1938
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but well all right, what about Calvin Johnson.

1939
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 4: That's what he is?

1940
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 3: He is?

1941
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 4: Right?

1942
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 1: How how good were the Lions during his ten year career?

1943
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 2: That?

1944
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Thanks thanks Mark, No, we appreciate you call it

1945
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,759
Speaker 1: as always Mark, as you can tell Alex had Ammo

1946
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 1: for that one. I say it for five We did that.

1947
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: I know, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald I think is the

1948
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 1: other one. You know, one year you get gets Kurt Warner.

1949
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: We had some competitive years though. Yeah, but like that,

1950
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 1: that team, that the whole Calvin Johnson and Joe Thomas

1951
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 1: for Marvin Harrison and Joe Walt. That was the it

1952
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: was the perfect comp Yeah. And I got this question

1953
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 1: not exactly phrased that way in the mail bag this

1954
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: week of what's the biggest difference between Joe Milton and

1955
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson coming out of college? And I think it's

1956
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 1: similar to like the conversation of like, well, if Joe

1957
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: Milton is this toolsy, raw guy, than why it makes

1958
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: him different than Drake May. I just think that when

1959
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: you watch guys like Anthony Richardson and Drake May, they

1960
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 1: have more natural instinct and feel for the position. Joe

1961
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 1: Milton is truly an arm right, Yeah, he is truly

1962
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 1: a I know he doesn't like the nickname, but he's

1963
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: truly a bazooka in the pocket who doesn't really see

1964
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 1: the field very well, doesn't really anticipate very well, doesn't

1965
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 1: have very well good timing, doesn't have very good footwork.

1966
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: Like when you watch Drake May play quarterback, Drake May

1967
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: is a natural quarterback right like he is a passer

1968
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: of the football. Joe Milton is a thrower. And the

1969
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: other difference is Drake May is twenty one years old.

1970
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,759
Speaker 1: He has significant time to grow. Joe Milton is twenty

1971
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 1: four and he looks kind of the same now as

1972
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 1: he did when he is a freshman at Michigan. There,

1973
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: he hasn't been a ton of growth there. Yeah, that's

1974
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: true too. I think I think some people have pushed

1975
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: back on that just a little bit, not to like

1976
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: say you're wrong. Ause I agree. So there's been growth,

1977
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: but no, it's not about the growth. It's just that

1978
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: he really only had one year to start. Yeah. But

1979
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 1: to me, when I did his profile, and that's what

1980
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: multiple people said to me, keep in mind that he

1981
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:10,640
Speaker 1: had he was the guy for one year at ten.

1982
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 1: We figured this out.

1983
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 3: I think Drake may throw more passing college than he did.

1984
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 3: He had the opportunities to be the guy multiple times

1985
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 3: and didn't seize it. Michigan twenty twenty, the COVID year.

1986
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 3: He started the majority of the games that year for Michigan,

1987
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 3: five out of six games. They went to Caid McNamara.

1988
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 3: The next year, he transferred out of Michigan. After the

1989
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 3: COVID season, JJ McCarthy goes to Michigan, But J. J.

1990
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 3: McCarty wasn't the starter yet at Michigan at that point.

1991
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 3: It was Cade McNamara. So he could have stayed at

1992
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 3: Michigan and started at Michigan again, but Michigan didn't really

1993
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 3: want him, like Michigan kind of told him to leave,

1994
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 3: so he had that opportunity. Then he wins the starting

1995
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 3: job at Tennessee in twenty twenty one, gets hurt and

1996
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 3: Hennon Hooker steals the job from him and doesn't look back,

1997
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 3: and then Humber keeps it for two straight years. The

1998
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 3: point being is that Joe Milton not always because of play,

1999
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 3: Like the injury is not necessarily like his fault. Yeah,

2000
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 3: but like he had two golden opportunities to seize a

2001
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 3: starting role in college and fumble the bag both times, right,

2002
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,799
Speaker 3: And the other thing. I would just say on the Anthony,

2003
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 3: I think he's closer. If we are going to do

2004
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 3: this thing, I think he's closer to Anthony Richardson than

2005
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 3: he is to Drake May. Yeah, but again the difference

2006
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 3: is the age. There's just a lot more to work

2007
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 3: with with Anthony Richardson in terms of time.

2008
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Anthony Richardson also is just a much

2009
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 1: more instinctive passerd, like just timing a rhythm from the pocket.

2010
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 1: Even though Anthony Richardson in a lot of ways. I

2011
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 1: think they're They're also pretty different. Yeah, but like Drake made,

2012
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson had similarities in the sense that when it

2013
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 1: was all tied together, they put some really pretty plays

2014
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 1: on tape, right when the footwork and the timing of

2015
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 1: the drop and the sync all synced up in the

2016
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 1: reeds and his eyes and everything was all all perfect.

2017
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson had a ton of big time throws at Florida.

2018
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: Drake May had a ton of big time throws at

2019
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,799
Speaker 1: you and c. The problem was that they were constantly

2020
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 1: on a roller coaster, right, Whereas with Joe Milton, it's

2021
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: like he's kind of is what he is. He is

2022
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 1: what he is.

2023
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the best way, which doesn't it doesn't mean

2024
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 3: he's bad, yeah, but it's just kind of the evidence

2025
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 3: at this point is he's, like you said, he's a

2026
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 3: big arm quarterback that's going to sling the ball around

2027
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 3: the yard and that comes.

2028
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 1: With good and bad. Yeah. So David asked about how

2029
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 1: we have such a hard Patriots He said, we how

2030
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots have such a hard schedule despite being bad

2031
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, And we talked about this a little

2032
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: bit you said it perfectly. Those there's three games that

2033
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: are tipped in the way of how you were the

2034
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 1: year before. Yeah, so the other what fourteen games of

2035
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: the schedule have nothing to do with your record the

2036
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,679
Speaker 1: year before, right, So it did that when he really

2037
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:55,560
Speaker 1: whittle it down to that, it makes a lot of

2038
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 1: sense why it can go this way even if you

2039
01:35:58,040 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 1: were a bad team the year before. Everybody says, oh,

2040
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: you should have a last place schedule, Well not really.

2041
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 3: And of those those three teams you're facing because of

2042
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 3: their placement, two of them were in last place because

2043
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 3: their quarterback got hurt. So and and they're not just

2044
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 3: their quarter they're like all pro caliber quarterback got hurt

2045
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 3: and he's now going to be back. One of them

2046
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 3: will definitely be back because it's week one, and the

2047
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 3: other one's really late in the season.

2048
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 1: We'll see. But that that flips it as well. Yep. Absolutely, Okay,

2049
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 1: can we can.

2050
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 3: We go to one in the YouTube because this is

2051
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 3: something I've brought up. Yep, And and I don't know

2052
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 3: that we've talked about it on the show. We talked

2053
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 3: about it off the year. I think let's say that

2054
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 3: they know they want to sit Drake May for call

2055
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 3: it a month, right, Yeah, and Jacoby Brissett gets hurt

2056
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 3: week one?

2057
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 1: Do you expediate May's planner? Do you go to Milton

2058
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 1: as a buffer? So this is another question. It's a

2059
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 1: it's a fair question. Somebody else asked this to like

2060
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 1: who sees the field first, Joe Milton or Drake May.

2061
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 1: I think in that situation there is an argument you

2062
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 1: made for Joe Milton. There's good arguments to be made

2063
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 1: for Joe Milton. I think the concern that I would have,

2064
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 1: I guess it's not a concern because ultimately, as much

2065
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: as it would probably sting a little bit that the

2066
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 1: sixth round pick is the guy that works out and

2067
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: not the third overall pick, ultimately the best it's whoever

2068
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: is the best quarterback for the New England Patriots, So

2069
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: whether it was a sixth round guy or it was

2070
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: the third overall pick, not that they were the same draft,

2071
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: but it's it's Bledsoe Brady, right, Like Bledsoe was the

2072
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. He's the big contract quarterback, but

2073
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: Brady was the better quarterback. So ultimately it doesn't necessarily matter,

2074
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 1: I suppose, But you do run that risk of if

2075
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 1: Joe Milton's good then like basically, Drake May turns into

2076
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, except.

2077
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 3: I would hope if Joe, well, because we just kind

2078
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 3: of talked about Joe Milton is what he is. You

2079
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 3: hope he's good enough that you could trade him, right,

2080
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 3: you use it as a showcase. Yeah, that's true too. Yeah,

2081
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 3: that to me is the ultimate end goal with Joe

2082
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 3: Milton is the Patriots show that there's enough translating from

2083
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 3: the positives at Tennessee that you get another team to

2084
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 3: give you something for him. I think that is the

2085
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 3: best case, narrow and goal with Joe Milton is he

2086
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 3: comes out, he slings it in the preseason, maybe he

2087
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 3: gets some reps in the regular season, and whether it

2088
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 3: be at the end of this year, at the end

2089
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 3: of next year, some team desperate for a quarterback looks

2090
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 3: at him and says.

2091
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 1: We'll give up a third round pick for that. We'll

2092
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 1: go up a fourth round pick for that. I understand

2093
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but that's a horrible return on investment.

2094
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 1: That's what happens, Oh, for Joe Milton, for Joe Miller. Okay,

2095
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 1: I think you're talking about Drake Ma.

2096
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that would be that's trailer terrible. No,

2097
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,600
Speaker 3: I'm saying with Joe, No, the best case scenario sorry.

2098
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: The same.

2099
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 3: Sorry, No, the best case scenario is for the draft

2100
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 3: is Drake may turning into that guy. But so how

2101
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 3: do you fit Joe Milton into that best case scenario?

2102
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 3: You're able to showcase him enough that used the sixth

2103
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 3: round pick on him, I said, third or fourth, maybe

2104
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 3: that's you know, best case scenario. But yes, you get

2105
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 3: a better pick back than he used to take him.

2106
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 3: And I don't think that's entirely unrealistic.

2107
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 1: I don't think or great. No, and and to be

2108
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 1: more maybe a little bit more you know, grounded. Sure,

2109
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 1: I guess is it the word thing in the world

2110
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: if Joe Milton turns into the Jacoby Brissett and you

2111
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 1: end up trading him. I know, Philip Dorsett wasn't like

2112
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 1: a world beater or anything like that, but you end

2113
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,600
Speaker 1: up trading him for a player that actually helps you,

2114
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, or yeah, or you trade him for a

2115
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 1: good player that's right, like, you know, someone that's at

2116
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 1: a different position that's actually gonna contribute. When they made

2117
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 1: that trade, Philip Dorsett was two years removed from being

2118
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 1: the first round pick. Yeah, no, so there was still

2119
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 1: he and Philip Dorset for as mediocre as he was. Yeah,

2120
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 1: Philip Dorse hadn't made some plays for the Patriots.

2121
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 3: And I'll say you got to go back to that

2122
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 3: point in time there there was more potential with Dorset. Now,

2123
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 3: it never got recognized and that's why maybe that trades

2124
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 3: looked at as more of a footnote. But at the

2125
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 3: time it looked like they were getting a guy that

2126
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 3: was maybe on the rise. So that's that's another good

2127
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 3: example too, can can if it's not for picking and

2128
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 3: trade Joe Milton for you know, an NFL caliber rosterable player,

2129
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 3: it's it's I know, because we just came out of

2130
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 3: the whole thing with Mac Jones and Bailey's appy and

2131
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 3: people getting real tribal about the quarterbacks. Yeah, Joe Milton

2132
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 3: playing away put it. Yeah, Joe Milton playing well is

2133
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 3: good for the Patriots and it's a good development. It's

2134
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,799
Speaker 3: something fan should root for. Like Joe Milton playing poorly

2135
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 3: does not help Drake May.

2136
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:16,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't. No, I don't think it hurt. It helps him,

2137
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 1: but it doesn't. It doesn't hurt. But like you just said,

2138
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 1: and this is What we've talked about in the past

2139
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: with this whole thing is that it does get tribal, okay,

2140
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 1: and if Drake May Joe Milin plays, even if it's

2141
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 1: Bailey's appy, well right where it's like he's wins a

2142
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 1: couple of games. He's a little scrappy, but people can

2143
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 1: clearly tell, like you and I can clearly tell that

2144
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: he's not he's not it. You know, He's just not it.

2145
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 1: But that's not going to stop from Drake May coming

2146
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,759
Speaker 1: in throws a pick against Chicago on Monday night. Football

2147
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 1: gets boot off the field for Joey. So don't let it.

2148
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 1: If it gets tribal outside, don't let it leak in

2149
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 1: the locker room. Easier said than done. Well, you don't

2150
01:40:56,360 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 1: have to bench guys in prime time after that's fair,

2151
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I also saw it. Did you see the

2152
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 1: Connecticut Sun game the other night? Yeah, so the son

2153
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 1: we're playing the fever and Kaitlyn Clark and the group

2154
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:15,679
Speaker 1: of Patriots players went to the game barely Zappy, Kendrick Bourne,

2155
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 1: Pop Douglas, and Taekwon Thornton. Yeah, that's that. Those four

2156
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 1: guys also trained a lot together in the offseason. Seems

2157
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,720
Speaker 1: like they're like the Four Amigos, which I don't love.

2158
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, well, I mean, you're allowed to

2159
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 1: be friends with whoever you want to be from I'm

2160
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 1: not trying to mean I think jerk did. I'm still

2161
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 1: really close with some of the guys here. He was

2162
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 1: very close with David Andrews, and I know that. I

2163
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 1: don't know if that's that's I think they still hang

2164
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 1: out like that's the go that to me more than

2165
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 1: Joe Milton and I I promise people this is not personal,

2166
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 1: but to me, the guy that if you're worried about

2167
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 1: that whole thing right now, it's more. I think it's

2168
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 1: more zappy.

2169
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 3: I think also, and you touched on this in your piece,

2170
01:41:56,479 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 3: like Joe Milton's mental makeup, he's the guy you want

2171
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 3: in that role. Oh yeah, he understands why he's here.

2172
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 1: I think Jacoby Brissett, who we're going to talk to

2173
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 1: you later today in about an hour. Yeah, I think

2174
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 1: he understands why he's here. Yeah, one hundred percent. I

2175
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,679
Speaker 1: think Joe Milton is going to try to I would

2176
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 1: say it's easier for Jacoby Brissette to understand that. Yeah,

2177
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 1: I think Joe Milton's going to try to win the job.

2178
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: I hope he does. But I think that Joe Milton

2179
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: will like Jacoby Brissett will do in the long run,

2180
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:30,560
Speaker 1: you know what he's supposed to do.

2181
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 3: And let me be clear, sorry when I when I

2182
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 3: say I hope he doesn't, I hope he tries to

2183
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,600
Speaker 3: win the job because Brian Brian Hoyer was great about this.

2184
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 3: Brian Hoyer because they'd ask him, like I remember he

2185
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 3: got asked this once, what is your approach in training camp?

2186
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 1: Like Tom Brady's right there and he goes, I'm out.

2187
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 3: Here trying to prove him the best player, I am

2188
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 3: anything less, I'm wasting everybody's time. And I think that

2189
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 3: Joe Milton's gonna have that same approach. And you know

2190
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,719
Speaker 3: where else said there's a recognition that, yeah, Tom Brady's

2191
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 3: there and what it resulted it And get ready Evan,

2192
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 3: because I'm going to compare Brian Hoyer to Joe Milton.

2193
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 1: Jeez, no, but two opposite guy.

2194
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:09,679
Speaker 3: No, but remember training camp, Brian Hoyer, good player, dude

2195
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 3: was a legend there was You know how I always

2196
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 3: say Joe Milton is the most entertaining quarterback doesn't mean

2197
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 3: he's the best, but he's the most entertaining. Brian training Camp.

2198
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 3: Brian Hoyer had that same vibe because Brian Hoyer went

2199
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:21,719
Speaker 3: out there.

2200
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 1: Didn't give them.

2201
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 3: He threw that thing around them. He threw that thing

2202
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 3: around and given he was testing and sometimes they'd hit.

2203
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 3: He was testing windows, he was testing parts of the field.

2204
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 3: He wouldn't expect him to test because he knew he

2205
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 3: had nothing to lose. He was just gonna go out

2206
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 3: there and compete. I think that's what you're gonna see

2207
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 3: from Joe Milton. And if it works out for him, great,

2208
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 3: If it doesn't, I think he's just gonna keep competing.

2209
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 3: But he's not gonna get down on himself and he's

2210
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 3: not gonna turn into an issue because that's what he

2211
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 3: did at Michigan and that's what he did at Tennessee.

2212
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 3: Like he he had all the reason, he had all

2213
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 3: the reason in the world. When Hendon Hooker took off

2214
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 3: to get out of there, transfer again, go try to

2215
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:58,560
Speaker 3: find another spot instead. Him and Hendon Hooker are like

2216
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 3: best friends. Now, Yeah, that says a lot.

2217
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you know, both these guys have

2218
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 1: stories like that. I did both of their profiles where yeah,

2219
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,680
Speaker 1: Drake May's best friends with Sam Howell. Yeah, and well

2220
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 1: that's a little different, but yeah, but I think that

2221
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways though, I think both these

2222
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 1: guys come off as a very very good in the

2223
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 1: locker room, very very grounded. Yeah, you know that kind

2224
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 1: of thing, Joe Drake May as much as Drake May

2225
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 1: went to UNC knowing Sam Howell was the guy there

2226
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 1: and that he was gonna have to sit behind Sam

2227
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 1: Howell for a bit. That's not that unusual. But he

2228
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: was still a highly a high four star, yeah, almost

2229
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 1: a five star prospect with offers from BAMA, Clemson, Ohio State,

2230
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: like everywhere, went to his hometown team in North Carolina

2231
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 1: to be the hometown hero and sat behind Sam Howell,

2232
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 1: you know. And I think both these guys have a

2233
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 1: lot of that with them in terms of their makeup

2234
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 1: and like they're gonna do what's best for the team,

2235
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 1: even if it's not what's best for them, you know

2236
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 1: that sort of thing.

2237
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 3: Sure, all right, you know, while we're on this, one

2238
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 3: more telling thing about Drake May that I thought was interesting. Yes,

2239
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 3: so this is kind of like nerd college football stuff,

2240
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 3: but we're getting into the mental makeup of these guys.

2241
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 3: So Drake May sits behind Sam hall Antonia, which again,

2242
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 3: that's not that uncommon that even the five star true

2243
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 3: freshman Quinn you were sat for a year. I think

2244
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence might have been the one exception. I think

2245
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:32,560
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence starts a true freshman. But a lot of

2246
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 3: these guys they sit that first.

2247
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 1: I mean Bryce Young sat behind Mac. Bryce Young stap

2248
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 1: behind Mac. That's a good one. You look at Uh,

2249
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm blanking. There's a bunch of examples.

2250
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 3: The next year, So they go to the spring game

2251
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:46,759
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, and we talked to Mac Brown

2252
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 3: about how Drake May won the job. Dada quarterback named

2253
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 3: Kobe Criswell, who, like Drake May, was a four star recruit,

2254
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 3: highly tattercru he was a year older. He had Actually

2255
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 3: Sam how missed a game in twenty twenty one and

2256
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:01,680
Speaker 3: instead of starting Drake May, they started Jacoby Criswell in

2257
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 3: that game, and Chriswell came out he was the better

2258
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 3: player at the spring game, and Drake May ended up

2259
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,839
Speaker 3: over the course of the summer working out with teammates

2260
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 3: on his own, winning the job. Jacoby Criswell backed up

2261
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:17,839
Speaker 3: Drake May in twenty twenty two. Last year, he transferred

2262
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:19,640
Speaker 3: to Arkansas because Drake May was still there, he was

2263
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 3: in Bended's starter all that, and Chriswell wanted to play.

2264
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 3: He's ended up being the backup at Arkansas. At kJ

2265
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 3: Jefferson this year, Jacoby Criswell is transferring.

2266
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 1: Back to UNC.

2267
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know that sounds stupid, That's very telling

2268
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 3: because that says Jacoby Criswell wanted to be at North Carolina,

2269
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 3: he wanted to play for Mac Brown, he wanted to

2270
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:41,759
Speaker 3: be a part of that program.

2271
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 1: But he knew Drake May wasn't letting that thing up.

2272
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 3: And I just think that says a lot about Drake

2273
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 3: May's mental toughness in fortitude that he wasn't even like.

2274
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 3: It wasn't even like I'm gonna wait this kid out.

2275
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 3: It was their The doors not open here remotely as

2276
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 3: long as Drake May is here.

2277
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 1: So Dylan asks, why hasn't Drake May cleaned up? His

2278
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:03,080
Speaker 1: foot work are already? You would think between Nil and

2279
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 1: U and C's resources that he or the school could

2280
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 1: hire him a good QB coach. What's the difference between

2281
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 1: the college and NFL level here, so I think the

2282
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 1: biggest thing. So they did have good coaches there at

2283
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:18,600
Speaker 1: North Carolina. You know, we talked to why am I

2284
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 1: biking on his name? Christensen, Clyde Christensen, who's worked with Brady's,

2285
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 1: work with Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck. Not to bring up

2286
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck again, but they've had good coaches down there.

2287
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:30,600
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing with Drake May And I

2288
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 1: would implore all Patriots fans to do this, not just

2289
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: because like I'm hyping up the guy more and more,

2290
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 1: but go back and watch his twenty twenty two season

2291
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 1: at North Carolina. Yeah, that was ACC Player of the Year,

2292
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 1: by the way, Orange Bowl appearance, AC Championship Game appearance,

2293
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 1: not Orange Bowl appearance, but ACC Championship game appearance, and

2294
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 1: Big Bowl game against Oregon yeah as well. And that

2295
01:47:56,680 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 1: year his footwork everything was just much cleaner in terms

2296
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 1: of his mechanics, his footwork, all that kind of stuff,

2297
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 1: because they had a little bit more talent around him,

2298
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 1: they were a little bit more stable, and he was

2299
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 1: playing under Phil Longo at the time, who was his

2300
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 1: OC for a couple of years there while he was

2301
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:17,760
Speaker 1: the backup, and then while he started his first year

2302
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,640
Speaker 1: as a starter. In twenty twenty two, he got to

2303
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Phil Longo leaves for Wisconsin to be

2304
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator, so he changed his coordinators, and not

2305
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 1: only did they change coordinators, but they also changed a

2306
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 1: lot of the things that they do offensively in terms

2307
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 1: of the footwork and his dropbacks. They went from a

2308
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 1: backpedal team to a more traditional shuffle side shuffle kind

2309
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 1: of team and his dropbacks, and that changed a lot,

2310
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: I think for him as well. So coordinator changes all

2311
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,520
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Still a raw, young kid regardless.

2312
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 1: But I think the biggest thing that you look at

2313
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 1: with is why wasn't it fixed or why hasn't it

2314
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 1: been better? At UNC is just that he's still young,

2315
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 1: and he's been in a couple of different systems, And

2316
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that necessarily has any indication of it's

2317
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,719
Speaker 1: not gonna be ever being able to be fixed, because

2318
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 1: that's so true for so many different quarterbacks over the

2319
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 1: course of years and years.

2320
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:13,600
Speaker 3: It's not that unusual for a guy like he's I

2321
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 3: wouldn't say he's behind schedule. It's not that unusual for

2322
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 3: a guy at this point to at the point where

2323
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 3: he is to need work with his footwork. He's not

2324
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 3: at his schedule, but he's not behind schedule.

2325
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. So Mike from Bill Rica says that he

2326
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 1: thoroughly is on Alex's side of the left tackle debate,

2327
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 1: which this always happens with us. We get into these

2328
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 1: semantics debates and people just like, I am not telling

2329
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 1: you the Patriots have good left tackles. Don't, don't misconstrue

2330
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,759
Speaker 1: to tell what you said. Don't don't move the goalposts.

2331
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 1: You said you're not worried about left I said, I'm

2332
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 1: not as worried about left tackle as other people. That's

2333
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 1: what I said. And I'm not as worried, not because

2334
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 1: I think they're talent like they secretly have. You know,

2335
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas reincardinated on the roster. Yeah, you think Bootleg

2336
01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Right's going to solve all their problems? Correct. So he

2337
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 1: wants me to put a name to the claim for

2338
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots of who has a worse left tackle situation

2339
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 1: right now than the Patriots. So can you tell me,

2340
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,679
Speaker 1: off the top of your head who the projected starting

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01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 1: left tackle is right now for the Washington Commanders. I can't.

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01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 1: Cornelius Lucas from Washington State. Oh no, it's Abraham Lucas.

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01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 1: Cornelius Lucas from Kansas State, who is in his tenth

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01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 1: NFL season and has been on one, two, three, four

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01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 1: five different teams. Is his fifth different team. They drafted

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01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: Brandon Coleman from TCU. All right, I like Brandon Coleman,

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01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 1: so they are doing a similar thing. Okay, but they

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01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 1: have guys that have played left tackle. Has Cornelius Lucas

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01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,640
Speaker 1: played left tackle? He has. I'm trying to find the

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01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:54,680
Speaker 1: exact snaps. I just don't how to spell Cornelius.

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01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:03,719
Speaker 3: Okay, let's also not rule out Cornelius Lucas has played

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01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 3: nine hundred and eighty seven snaps at left tackle in

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01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,760
Speaker 3: the NFL, including two hundred and twenty seven last year

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01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 3: There You Go, in which he allowed in one hundred

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01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,759
Speaker 3: and fifty two pass blocking snaps. He allowed eight pressures

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01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 3: in three sacks.

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Speaker 1: Earlier in the show, Yeah, well, yeah, I asked you

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01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:20,679
Speaker 1: the left tackle on the rams. He didn't mention the rams.

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01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 1: It was a Lark Jackson, Aleric Jackson, the starting left

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01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 1: tackle right now, who has played who played over thousand

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01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 1: snaps left tackle one year, two, three, four, five five

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01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 1: teams as a rookie. We've never played a snap in

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01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:40,759
Speaker 1: the NFL yet, Okay, but have played left tackle recently. Okay.

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Speaker 1: My point being is, don't don't assume that everybody's got

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01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 1: some great left tackle situation. I'm not saying that. I'm

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01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:51,680
Speaker 1: not saying saying that. But he said put a name

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01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:54,720
Speaker 1: to the game. I honestly named you three or four

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01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: teams and then added to the fact that they have

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01:51:57,240 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: five other teams that have that are projected to start

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01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:01,719
Speaker 1: rookies at le tackle who have never played a snap

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01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Okay, And I'm just telling you, don't

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01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 1: assume that that every Patriots might be projected to also

2373
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 1: start a rookie left tackle. But unlike those other rookies,

2374
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:12,720
Speaker 1: he didn't play left tackle in college. Again, I just

2375
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:16,640
Speaker 1: want to reiterate that my whole take on this is

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01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 1: that I think they can get away with it for

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01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 1: a year. Nobody is sitting here saying that chukesakor For

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01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 1: should be there starting left tackle for the next five years.

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01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 1: Nobody is even I'm not even saying that that Keden

2380
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 1: Wallace should be their their bet at left tackle for

2381
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 1: the next five years. I am just telling you that

2382
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 1: this season and if they want to play Drake Made

2383
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 1: this season, which I think they will. YEA that they

2384
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 1: can play Drake May and you won't have to worry

2385
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 1: about him turning into David Carr.

2386
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 3: I if that's the case, I'm putting my faith in

2387
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 3: Scott Peters more than I am in any individual alignment.

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01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's take this one last phone

2389
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 1: call them and we'll wrap it up here. Jose is

2390
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 1: in Texas. What's up? Jose? Hey, how's it going good?

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01:52:58,560 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 5: I got one question?

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01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 2: Do you guys think it's gonna really make that softmore jump?

2393
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 2: And what do you think is gonna have sophomore slump?

2394
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, thanks for the question. Jose. Does Christian

2395
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 1: Zaliz count Yeah? I don't know how that works. I

2396
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 1: was gonna ask that because he's definitely the one that

2397
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:16,479
Speaker 1: I think is gonna have the big year out of

2398
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 1: that draft class. I hope that he stays healthy. I

2399
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 1: can't say that I know that he will, but I

2400
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 1: I hope that he is going to stay healthy, and

2401
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,800
Speaker 1: I would think that he's the guy that that qualifies

2402
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 1: for that. I'm still just not crazy about Kean White,

2403
01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, I think White could I hope. So,

2404
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 1: I hope so. I didn't love the pick at the time.

2405
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 1: I I just but then he came around on it

2406
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 1: after they drafted Marte Mapu, and they didn't do what

2407
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna do.

2408
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 3: Which is that that's my I'm still worried about Marte Mapu.

2409
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:46,680
Speaker 3: I'm worried about both those guys, I don't think. But

2410
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 3: I see the role for ke On White. I see

2411
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 3: what he's doing, like with Marte Mau. What's the role

2412
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 3: he's going to start to take over that that edge

2413
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,639
Speaker 3: roll from from Dietrich wise and probably play a bigger

2414
01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 3: role as you're getting.

2415
01:53:58,400 --> 01:53:59,760
Speaker 1: With Okay, So, but is he gonna be a hand

2416
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 1: in theyrk gyers handed, he's gonna bending the dirk, He's

2417
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:05,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a defensive end. He's he's to me, he's

2418
01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: two eighty five, is what he's listening to. He's a

2419
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 1: powerful to eighty five. Though he's too to me, he's

2420
01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 1: too light for handing the dirt three four end and

2421
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 1: he's too heavy for a stand up.

2422
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:15,640
Speaker 3: What if he comes into a enp at like two

2423
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 3: ninety five, I'd rather go the other way. Oh see, no, no,

2424
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 3: now we're getting into who is that guy the outside

2425
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 3: linebacker that Auburn tried to turn into a nose tackle?

2426
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 3: What they and they draft him? He was the number

2427
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:31,679
Speaker 3: one recruit in the country. He's an edge rusher Auburn. Yes,

2428
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 3: he was the number one recruit, Iron Coward, Iron Cower, Yeah, yeah,

2429
01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 3: he went He was the number one recruit in the country. Yeah,

2430
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 3: as like two hundred and thirty pound edge rusher. He

2431
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 3: went to Auburn. They try to turn him into like

2432
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 3: a three four defensive end. He put on like forty

2433
01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 3: pounds yep, struggled with it tremendously. Transferred to Maryland and

2434
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 3: they were like, at this point, we're just gonna make

2435
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 3: a defensive tackle. And the Patriots drafted him in the

2436
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 3: sixth round. Anyway, I worry about Martine Maphu. I don't know,

2437
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 3: like what role does he play that they don't already

2438
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 3: have filled by a better player. I just don't I

2439
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 3: don't know where they're using him to make an impact.

2440
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's probably gonna play a lot

2441
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 3: on special teams. And when they when they want to

2442
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 3: go three safeties, I'll guess.

2443
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 1: I guess they'll put Jabrill Peppers deep and Maphu becomes

2444
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 1: the second box safety. But it's worrisome. It's I feel

2445
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 1: the same exact way. I just don't see the platform.

2446
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you're a little bit higher than me on Keon White,

2447
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:27,480
Speaker 1: but well, I think both those day two guys from

2448
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: last year worrying me about what's where, what's their ideal position?

2449
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 1: Where is their role on this team? That there's not

2450
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 1: better players ahead of that.

2451
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 3: I can see that if they're going to be a

2452
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 3: more aggressive defense, as they've said, I can totally see

2453
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 3: the path for Keon White. Whether or not that plan

2454
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 3: works out, we'll see. I think you're a little hesitant

2455
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 3: about his size. Yeah, I think they'll get him in

2456
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 3: the weight room, et cetera, et cetera. I can see

2457
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 3: the I don't not see he's gonna become an all pro,

2458
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 3: but I can see the path to ke On White

2459
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:52,879
Speaker 3: becoming a consistent contributor.

2460
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 1: I can see that path. I don't see that path

2461
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 1: for Marte Mapu without significant changes to the defensive structure

2462
01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 1: or the roster. Yeah, that's fair. The last one I

2463
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:03,160
Speaker 1: think I would say in terms of I know it's

2464
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 1: probably not going to be like a tangible leap, but

2465
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 1: city so I think has a chance to be a

2466
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 1: really good starting right guard for this team. What about

2467
01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 1: Chad Royland? I mean, there's only one way to go.

2468
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 1: Did you watch Jake Bates. I'm signing Jake Bay He

2469
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 1: was knocking him down. Man, I'm signing him. There's gonna

2470
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 1: be a bidding war for him when that season. Then's Alex.

2471
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the Bruins tomorrow night?

2472
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,840
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01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:34,080
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2474
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:34,760
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