WEBVTT - The SEC & ACC Questions Keeping Us Awake (Part 1) 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.560 Welcome to the solid verbal Hell that for me. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.680 I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.640 I want to be happy. You want to be happy 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:13.000 for day Ato State? 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:19.720 Is that? Whoo whoo? And them and tie Dan Rubinstein. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.200 The calendar has officially turned to July. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:24.640 I notice. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:29.840 I notice because ESPN updated its college football standings page, 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:34.000 which I that's it might as well be like somebody 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.440 in Bristol or whoever runs their website, like we're seeing 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:39.920 a lot of unusual activity from the north shore of 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.279 Chicago because I'm on that page every day, Like, oh right, 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.080 Cincinnati's in the Big twelve. Oh right, Army made the 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.879 move to the American Oh and so like when we 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:52.199 are thinking of show topics and like organizing teams and 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.400 players and coaches and storylines in our head. I'm at 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.520 the age now where I just have to like I 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.639 might print that out like we used to print out 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.040 map quest pages sure in the nineties, and just tape 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.520 it to my wall, like I'm investigating college football and 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:11.280 draw yarns from team to team because that is extremely 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:12.000 my page. 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.759 Oh well, I've been going to that page now, Yeah, 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:19.000 for the last five months, waiting for him to update it. Yeah, 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.440 the new conference structure and all that, just as a 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.200 reference point. Like you said, we do this show sometimes 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.280 you got to call up a page quickly just to 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:30.679 remember who is where, especially now with everyone being elsewhere 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:34.520 this season. And yeah, so officially ESPN has updated it. 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.199 You know our adage here on the show, at least 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.280 my adage. Once you turn the calendar to July, that 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.480 is the official start of the preseason. Yeah, once we 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.600 get into July, that means we're going to start doing 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:50.280 conference and team previews among other podcast episodes here over 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:51.840 the next six weeks or so. 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.960 Nobody pres like the solid verbal tie. Nobody pre's like 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:56.840 the solid verbal. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.800 This is one hundred percent true today is kind of 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.120 the preamble to the. 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.680 Previews creator free yeap. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:09.880 Which we can discuss momentarily. If you are new here, Hello, Welcome. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:10.359 To the verballerhood. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.440 I'm Ty He is Dan, Hit follow, hit subscribe wherever 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.519 it is you're getting this podcast. All are welcome in 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.600 the verballerhood. Of course. Verballers dot com is where you 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:21.640 can go if you want to be a superverballer and 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.320 be part of our Patreon community. Dan and I are 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.280 deep in the lab right now, working through what our 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.760 benefit tears will look like in this twenty twenty four 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:30.760 college football season. 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.480 We'll flip those on a little bit later in this summer. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.560 Still a little early, yeah, start talking about things like that, 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.359 but we're working on it. We will get back to 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.119 as soon as we can. At a verballers dot com, Dan, 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:43.960 what is this episode today? Exactly? 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.560 It's too glad you asked two parter. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:47.960 You know how when you're at a party and you 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.480 meet your usual suspects and somebody works in finance, somebody 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.840 works for blobby bla, somebody's a teacher something. You're just like, cool, great, 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:56.920 nice to meet you. That sounds cool. But then you 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:01.320 come across somebody who says, actually, technically horse dentist, right, 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:03.880 And then you say to yourself or you say to 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.680 that person, I have so many questions. How does one 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.040 become a horse dentist? Do you have crazy horse dentistry stories? 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.919 Do you know other horse dentists? What's the horse dentist community? 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:15.120 Like? 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.639 What are your hours like? Specific breeds and types of horses? 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:19.399 All horses? 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:20.400 Do you go donkey like? 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.280 There are a lot of questions when you come across 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.960 something that or somebody that is particularly interesting. And so 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.840 now again nobody praised like the solid verbal as we 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:34.760 enter into preview season. This is not a preview episode, 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:39.000 but this is just back of our head what we've 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.360 been ruminating on, what has been keeping us up nights 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.240 when we're thinking about the Mountain West, what has been 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.960 keeping us up at night thinking about Arkansas's twenty twenty four. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:53.120 And this is just the questions we have, the stories 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:57.360 we're interested in, and not just like can Texas figure 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.200 out its defensive line? That's not that kind of thing. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.880 More just like, hey, is Texas going to be like 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.480 still good or like stuff like that, which maybe it's 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.160 that vague, maybe it's more detailed, but it's it's what 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:12.800 has been keeping us up nights. 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.200 It is for sure what's been keeping the question, to 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.880 say the least. I mean, as we get into full 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.560 on preview mode here, I think the intention is we're 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.680 actually going to answer some of these questions or try 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.000 to answer some of the questions we have now. But 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.800 being so, it is a little bit early. Being so, 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.599 we're just trying to get reacclimated with who's on which teams, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.520 which teams are on which conferences, things of that nature. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.880 These are the questions that I think, as you said, 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.760 are been keep not only been keeping us up at night, 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.880 but definitely things that are of most interest to us 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:45.480 that we're going to focus in on a little bit 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.680 more once we get into preview mode in like a 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.560 week or two, we can. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.600 We're breaking it down by all sorts of different regions, conferences, teams, stories. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.039 I don't know where you want to start, but I 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.240 feel like we should start asking. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.240 We should what is of all the questions that you 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.839 jotted down? So we full disclosure. We kind of split 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.520 this up a little bit. We went conference by conference, 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.880 We did a group of five, We did some bigger 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.320 picture college football stuff sort of all over the map. 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.160 We had so many questions that we decided fairly early on, 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:16.680 with this, of course being the week of July fourth, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.080 we're going to break this up into two episodes and 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:22.560 make it nice drawn out week of tie and Dan 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:26.119 questions that we need to take our teeth into figure 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.280 out more about. On your Google doc, what is the 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.839 question that you have lost the most sleep over? 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:35.920 I wrote down what do I do with my love 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.200 for usf lasts longer than four hours? 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.479 I have a USF thing here too. 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.000 I don't know we want to start there, but man, 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.839 Alex Golish and I staying up nights thinking about Byron Brown. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:56.840 He's really fun. Actually, maybe we don't start there. Okay, 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.440 So I was assigned or assigned myself the see we 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.200 can start there. So these are my big picture conference 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.279 questions and you can decide which of these you want 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:06.839 to attack. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:10.200 Okay, this is your choice. Okay. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.160 What will the SEC feel like without Nick Saban? What 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.480 are just the vibes going to be? Because even with 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:20.240 Georgia's recent success, Nick Saban is unquestionably has been the 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:23.120 alpha of that conference for as long as basically we've 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.720 been doing the show. And even as Georgia has been 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:29.360 that alpha, h Nick Saban beat him twice in the 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.040 SEC championship games Nick Saban in Alabama. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.119 Sub question to that, how will he be on game day? Hmm? 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.000 Will he be a goofball when they're doing like a 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:44.200 weird cheese it mask thing with Pat McAfee, Like, what 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.560 vibe will Nick Saban bring to the game day set? 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.479 I think that's kind of interesting. Which team had it 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.919 good in the old SEC? Or will we feel that 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.679 about come you know, Halloween time that because they were 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:00.000 in the SEC East and their schedules maybe have been 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.680 fortunate for whatever reason. Now that the SEC is a 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.840 more wide open schedule, we're like, oh man, they had 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.479 a good maybe not so much anymore. And vice versa. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.960 Which team in the West will we look at their 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.480 results and say, wow, must be a breath of fresh 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.080 air given this new conference structure that they don't have 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.440 to play X, Y and Z every season. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.600 Divisionless now yeah, divisionless? 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:20.800 Right? 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.000 Is there a program in the SEC that will become 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.000 a program that just sort of is They're not amazing, 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.800 they're not terrible, Like who are the candidates to just 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:35.239 sort of exist and coast along? Like they plug holes 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.360 when there's a leak, But they're also not zooming on anybody. 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.280 Who will be the first media member to gleefully tweet quote, 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:47.720 welcome to the SEC. When Texas or Oklahoma struggle, I've 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:51.040 got my candidates. I'm sure you do too. Tie one 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:55.679 hundred percent certainty. Final big picture SEC question. This one 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.920 it sounds like a goofball question, Tie, but I think 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.800 there's actually it's grounded in reality. Will there be a 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.880 Mowana two SEC tie in resulting in the ultimate long 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.880 play Solid verbal ripoff comes out in November, comes out 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.560 November tie. It's not even that much of a joke 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:18.560 question because Disney SEC ESPN Duane Johnson former Dwayne the 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:24.600 Rock Johnson, Mowana Miami defensive lineman. Like, I'm thinking, it's 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:29.000 entirely possible that given what the SEC is going to 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.480 rate in October and November on ABC, we're going to 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:36.680 get some sort of se some clunky SEC promotional time. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.040 We've seen it with what Marvel and the NBA Finals. 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.800 We have, right, we have that is the big headline 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:47.240 Disney release, Disney Animation release this fall. I'm just telling 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.520 you right now, we're recording this once again July first. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:55.000 Nobody preas like the solid verbal, it's entirely possible if 0:08:55.040 --> 0:09:00.640 we get a Mowana promo spot, our social mentions are going. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:06.200 To break the platforms. Yeah, on which we get them. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.480 Yeah, of course. I'm just telling you now, if you're 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:13.880 going to see Nick Saban put on h Moana mask 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.560 on game Day, it will be the most full circle 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.480 solid ripoff moment that has ever occurred. 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.160 There will be a moment where the third quarter is 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.480 sponsored by Mowana two in theaters. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.439 Now, of course, of course there will be. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.440 And it'll be best when Sean McDonough does the promo Moan. 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:36.160 Too Molana Dell and then now, yeah, of course. 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.440 I think the question to me that jumps out the 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:44.400 most outside of the Mowana one is the void left 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.800 by Saban. Yeah, at Alabama. And I've been saying this 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.680 exact same thing now for months on end. After the 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.640 Saban news went down, and after we heard about him 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.840 going to Game Day and Kaylin de Borr was hired, 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.120 We've had all these things that have transpired the last 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:06.600 six months, seven months or so. Sabin leaving that conference, 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.959 I think creates a huge void. And it'd be easy 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.600 to sit here and say, well, obviously Georgia is going 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.040 to fill that void. Kirby Smart is kind of like 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:17.480 the heir apparent Sabin in terms of true alpha's in 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.319 the SEC. But it's just really hard to fill any 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.840 void left by the greatest coach in the history of 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.440 the sport. And I suspect if you're a team that 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:31.320 has Alabama on its schedule routinely, I e. Auburn, I 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:36.960 suspect teams like Tennessee that are accustomed to playing the 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:41.240 Sabin version of Alabama. I suspect that those schools are 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.040 jumping up and clicking their heels together that he is 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:48.440 no longer there. Even if Klin de Borr steps in 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.520 and is the same coach that we came to no 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.960 and loved last season at Washington in a short time 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.600 at Washington and elsewhere, even if he comes in and 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.880 is very very good, he is still not Nick Saban. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.080 And I suspect to have plenty of success. I don't 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.840 know if anybody's going to have a level of success 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:10.240 that Saban had. It's just so well do And so 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.360 for sure there is a void. For sure, that is 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.600 something we're going to need to cover. And for sure 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.600 there is something there with respect to what is Saban 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.560 going to be like on game day? Speaking of vibes, 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.959 I think he'll be quite good. I think he's always 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:25.679 been good on TV. I think that's part of the 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.880 charm and part of how he was such an effective 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:32.200 recruiter at Alabama. He knew how to handle himself in 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.040 front of a camera. He had a ton of polish, 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.560 even when he was doing those postgame interviews. You remember 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.400 when he would do these with like CBS or wherever. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.679 He was one of the only coaches I could recall 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.920 who had the wherewithal to not look at the person 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.560 interview him here and there, glance at I'm act as 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.679 if you care, but he's looking right at you camera 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.520 number one. Yeah, right, he's talking right to you in 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.600 your living room. This is a guy who knows how 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.560 to handle himself in front of popular media. So I 0:11:57.600 --> 0:11:59.560 suspect to be very, very good in that regard. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.280 But TV's different. TV is like he's gonna have to 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.960 be entertaining quickly. He's going to have to make a 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:10.040 point and support it with likability, even if he's saying 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.880 something bad about your team. Like it's a different animal 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.440 to speak in those types of bursts. Right, Leek Horso 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:20.560 has had his stick. Pat McAfee has his shtick, you know, 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.120 Desmond Howard is smiling and has his thing. Kirk Herbstreet 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.400 has this thing and has a sense of humor. Right, 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.880 say whatever you will about Kirk Kurbstreet, if you love him, 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:30.520 if you don't like him, whatever. He's been around forever, 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.520 everybody has opinions of him. But he leans into the 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.160 game day vibe, and so I think that's going to 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.400 take a minute for Nick Saban to just sort of 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:42.080 pick up on chemistry wise as he enters into something, however, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:43.000 many decades in. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:44.760 No, I think that's all fair. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:48.200 But I'm really curious to see what that dynamic is like, definitely, 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.839 because typically when you've got a guy who's had such 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.280 a long story career like Saban, when you put a 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.800 guy like that in a booth and you give them 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.640 an opera in a studio in this case, and give 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.120 him an opportunity that just sort of upload all of 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.800 their information to you, you get a lot of really 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.880 interesting nuggets out of that. And I think Saban's going 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.000 to be really, really good in that role. I'm excited 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:11.400 to see what he can do. And this is not 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.640 somebody who watches a whole lot of college game day 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.800 or knows by the time Saturday morning rolls around, or 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.400 sort of run a little bit ragged from all the 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.480 prep that we do in the span of a given week. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.520 But Saban being there, at least for the first couple weeks, 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.080 I think is going to be a nice little draw 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.120 to get you and I tuned in and specoring how 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:29.800 well he does. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.360 And there's the really interesting and I think makes game 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.800 day more watchable than it's been recently. And I don't 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.400 say that because I dislike anybody on game day or 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.920 anything like that. I just my life has changed to 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:42.680 the point where I don't want, don't have the time 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:46.400 before the games to really watch a pregame show. The 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.000 Tony Romo thing where he's played and game planned against 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.319 so many of the teams he's now analyzing so recently 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.439 that it's going to change three or four years down 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.160 the road or anything like that. But like Saban's intimate 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:03.240 knowledge of not now Texas obviously having game planned for 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.880 them last year, but the SEC and you know, big 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:11.240 teams that he's game planned against in bowl games, playoff games, whatever. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:12.920 Bring that, Yeah, he can absolutely bring that. 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.440 It's you look at the rest of the game day 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:19.600 set and they either haven't done that recently or the 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:23.800 guests don't feel free to speak freely about those types 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.360 of things. Whereas Nick Saban, even though I'm sure he's 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.280 loyal to coaching, friends and stuff like that, Like, here's 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.880 what you have to do when you play against Tennessee, 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.080 here's what you have to think about in the back 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.640 of your mind. If you're a linebacker playing against you 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.360 know this guy at Texas A and M. So, that 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.080 to me is pretty fascinating and makes it more watchable. 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.360 Who is the SEC team though, that's gonna just puts along. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:46.760 It's going to coast. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.080 Yeah, my guess the most competent, like aggressively competent, but 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.600 nothing like terribly above that or terribly below that is 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.160 probably Kentucky, Kentucky. 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.800 I'm looking right at it. I was thinking Kentucky. Maybe 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.160 Auburn in a year or two. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.600 Like Kentucky may have missed its window to have that. 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.760 I mean like they had a special year a couple 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.840 of years ago, three years ago, now, whatever it was 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.960 they had that special year. I just think their opportunity 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.520 to have that special year every so often, that window 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.480 may have closed. And it's quarterback dependent for them. And 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.840 maybe that quarterback you know is on their roster this year. 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:26.640 But if you're not a Brock Vandergriff believer in this moment, 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.920 it might be hard to see a Vandergrifter excuse me 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.600 that they're not necessarily recruiting on the level like look 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.320 happy to be wrong, always wrong. We had a you know, 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.480 a longer Kentucky conversation earlier this year but that to 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.400 me is going to be the interesting element to all 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:43.680 of this. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.160 Yeah, I could see I can make a case for Kentucky. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:47.840 I guess I could make a case for Auburn. 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.160 Ole Miss, by the way, is the flip Ole Miss 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.280 could be the big beneficiary with how aggressive they've been 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.320 in the portal not playing every SEC West team, And 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.960 we'll see what that actually means in practice moving forward. 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:01.000 But I think they're probably the big winner out of 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.920 all of this because they don't have the annual rivalry 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:08.400 with Alabama. Mississippi State in the short term is rebuilding 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.880 like they're I think in a really nice place. But 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.480 I also have with Ole Miss in terms of a question. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:16.480 I have here. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:18.520 Let me make sure I get my word incorrect here. 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:21.400 Oh man, where did. 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:21.800 I lose there? 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:22.080 It is? 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.280 Will it ever get better for Ole Miss than it 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.400 appears to be right now? And like the old Andy 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.040 Bernard quote, I wish there was a way to know 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.160 you were in the good old days when you were 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.560 actually in them before it's too late with what they 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.520 bring back, with what their schedule looks like right now, 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.480 with where their rival is in terms of a rebuild 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.600 like this is kind of a great time for ole Miss, 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:45.680 and I hope they appreciate it. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:47.040 Well, I'm sure they do. 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.080 Ole Miss, I think, is one of those teams that 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.000 we have mentioned frequently in the off season as Yeah, 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:57.240 definitely a beneficiary of the expanded playoff system. The path 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.040 is wider. I keeps saying that, I feel like I've 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.440 broken record, but the path is wider for teams like 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.359 ole Miss, or Tennessee or Penn State or Utah. Like 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:08.840 there are a great number of schools now that the 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.040 combination of going division lists and most of these big conferences, 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.359 with the expanded playoff field, which is going to expand again, 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:19.199 mind you in two years, right, that serves to benefit 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.879 a few programs in particular. Yeah, and ole Miss is 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.320 definitely in that conversation for sure. 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.560 I do wonder though, with regard to Lane Kiffen, if 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:32.440 he sees this as everything's pointing to this year and 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.919 if ole Miss really does break through, if this is 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.119 what he uses to sort of vault himself to a 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.359 new place that he does it. He's been very outspoken 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.840 in terms of like, look, we take advantage of it, 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.959 we do right by this current system, but it's terrible 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.960 for the sport and that maybe he wants to go 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.600 somewhere where he can both leverage it and get a 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:57.000 fresh start and not have to deal with the amount 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.720 of incoming outgoing as Ole Miss has to deal with sometimes. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.840 I mean the question I would have to that though, 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.280 which big jobs are going to be coming open? 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.600 Which big jobs are on the precipice of fuddy you 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:09.040 never know? 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.080 You this is college foot well, you never know, and 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:15.000 especially in this era where I do think playoff qualification 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.760 is going to stand for a lot. Maybe Florida. I 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.200 don't think Florida wants Lane Kiffin. I think they want 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.040 Jed Fish. I'm going to stick with that until it happens. 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.439 But outside of that, which seems to be a fairly 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.320 obvious opening at the end of this season, things go 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.280 the way we think. Sure don't see a whole lot 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.040 of those marquee jobs that are out there. Doesn't mean 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.720 they won't come open. Yeah, just doesn't seem obvious to 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:40.359 me at this point. Lane Kiffin is going to have 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:44.560 his name in the ring of some other opening at 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.119 some point down the line, whether in college or the NFL, 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.680 because he has done a good job building Old Miss up. 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.240 I suspect this is going to be another successful campaign 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.399 for the rotally, so he'll be in that conversation. Just 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:58.880 doesn't seem obvious to me at this juncture who that's 0:18:58.880 --> 0:18:59.159 going to be. 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.080 But that's a whole thing, that's the whole sport. You 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:03.679 never know which coach is going to get on a 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.760 motorcycle with a former volleyball player during the summer, right, 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.920 you never know, and that and when that happens. Laane 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:12.919 is there, Laane is there? What do you got for 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:16.320 the ACC? The ACC the All Costco Conference. By the way, 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.280 it pains me that when we did our episode a 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.119 few weeks back talking about the All State twelve or 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:23.280 the Big twelve All. 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.600 State or whatever. Yeah, Brett or Mark is thinking of 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.040 naming this thing. It pains me that we did not 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.800 mention the All Costco Conference. We talked about it in 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:35.960 our slack channel. Yeah, we we have been making that 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:39.320 joke for the last couple of years. And when the 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:41.760 rubber really met the road and it came time to 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.080 roll that joke out in a more official capacity, we 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.440 forgot to. I forgot I just listened to a four 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.119 hour podcast about Costco. By the way, nobody is a 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:51.600 bigger Costco expert in this moment than I am. 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.200 By the way, I have questions about other teams in 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:53.719 the SEC. 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:56.439