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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: Is that? Whoo whoo? And them and tie Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 1: The calendar has officially turned to July.

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Speaker 2: I notice because ESPN updated its college football standings page,

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Speaker 2: which I that's it might as well be like somebody

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I've been going to that page now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for the last five months, waiting for him to update it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the new conference structure and all that, just as a

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Speaker 1: Which we can discuss momentarily. If you are new here, Hello, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: what is this episode today? Exactly?

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Speaker 2: I'm being introduced to a horse dentist and I got

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Speaker 1: What are your questions about Florida?

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Speaker 2: My question is like, are we like doom dooming Florida

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Speaker 1: squint and see that Florida zag as a possible I mean, it.

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Speaker 2: Sort of is given the schedule, but we're assuming things

439
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Speaker 2: about the schedule. There are good players that play for Florida.

440
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: There are reasons to like Florida right now. It's just

441
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: the vibes don't seem strong.

442
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 3: The vibes.

443
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Speaker 1: The other team that I have thought a lot about

444
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Speaker 1: going into this conference is Oklahoma. Yes, because the schedule's brutal,

445
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Speaker 1: it's because it's a that I have a lot of

446
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Speaker 1: respect for. I really like brand Venables. I think they

447
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: do it right. I think the structure is there, the

448
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: stability is there on the administrative level, which oftentimes is

449
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: overlooked but definitely is worth its weight in gold. It's

450
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Speaker 1: just going to be really hard for them to maneuver

451
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Speaker 1: their way through the schedule unless they unless Jackson Arnold

452
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Speaker 1: comes out and blows everybody away, and unless the defense

453
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Speaker 1: steps up in a very very significant way takes a

454
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Speaker 1: more significant step forward.

455
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Speaker 3: Not unlike what they did last year.

456
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Speaker 1: They're better last season, but they would need to amplify

457
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Speaker 1: that by at least two to three times better.

458
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Speaker 3: If they come out.

459
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Speaker 1: And go against the schedule like this, take that big

460
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Speaker 1: step forward, that in and of itself would be a

461
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Speaker 1: huge story. But I just don't know how confident I

462
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Speaker 1: feel in that right now.

463
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Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to go through this quickly. Okay,

464
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Speaker 2: I have pop with Oklahoma? Like where does the pop

465
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Speaker 2: come from?

466
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

467
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Speaker 2: Like, basically, can Jackson Arnold be as excellent as he

468
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Speaker 2: probably needs to be? They've addressed receiver, offensive line took

469
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: a step back, whatever, But like that's the big thing

470
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Speaker 2: with Oklahoma that at their best even in the Brent

471
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Speaker 2: Ventables era with Dylan Gabriel. It's the pop that has

472
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Speaker 2: really secured them those big wins, and so a lot

473
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Speaker 2: of questions. Oklahoma are very excited to see it. Other

474
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Speaker 2: side of the ball for Texas is my question, like,

475
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: was Texas big twelve good or are they just good good?

476
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Speaker 2: And that I think a lot has to do with

477
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Speaker 2: like BFD questions right that Texas fans of freaking out

478
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 2: about you know, defensive line depth and star caliber talent

479
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: this past year, you know, hitting the portal hard, trying

480
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Speaker 2: to get guys in the recruiting cycle. That to me

481
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Speaker 2: is something, well, you know, big twelve good versus good good?

482
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Speaker 3: How about this one?

483
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Speaker 1: Ty?

484
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Speaker 2: Can Kalin de Bor build a race ready boat in Tuscaloosa?

485
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Speaker 2: And by that, I'm using the phrase boat race because

486
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: Washington won a bunch of like weird clunky games last

487
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Speaker 2: year they did. You can't do that in Tuscaloosa.

488
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Speaker 1: Now.

489
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Speaker 2: You can't just get away with beating Arkansas thirteen ten

490
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: every year because you will start losing thirteen ten as well. No,

491
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 2: so that to me is interesting. I have down here

492
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: is Mike Elko America's most helpful hardware store employee that

493
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 2: you go to a hardware store and you're like, all right,

494
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Speaker 2: here's what I'm working on with my deck, and I

495
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 2: am just lost. And then there's there's a guy named

496
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Speaker 2: Steve and he's like, you're looking for a reverse box

497
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: sander and I know exactly where that's in row fourteen

498
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 2: and a half. Right that Mike Elko, with what he's

499
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: done as a coordinator and in a short time at Duke,

500
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Speaker 2: can he given what A and M lost, given who

501
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: he hired in a good way, given what they return

502
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: on this roster, because there's still a lot of talent

503
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Speaker 2: on this roster. Is he somebody that can go in

504
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: every single room at Texas A and M and be like,

505
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Speaker 2: this is what I expect out of you, and you're

506
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Speaker 2: gonna run this kind of route and do this with

507
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Speaker 2: your shoulder and listen to the receivers coach because this like,

508
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 2: is he the most helpful hardware helpful hardware store employee

509
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Speaker 2: in America?

510
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Speaker 3: If I do like that, I was just at the

511
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Speaker 3: hardware store the other day. Did you have a helpful employee?

512
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Speaker 1: He may actually have been named Steve too, with every

513
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: single hard work with the vest on, Yeah, with the

514
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Speaker 1: vest very helpful.

515
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: He's like, no, what you're looking here, you're looking for

516
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: a finishing lacker, and what you're doing right now is

517
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: you're looking for a soothing lacker, and it's totally different things.

518
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: You would never want to use that on a deck.

519
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: I just made up all of those.

520
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Speaker 3: I have.

521
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: Can Mississippi State quickly become fart spray?

522
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: Fart spray? Yes, Mississippi State continue.

523
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: Their schedule is super sandwichy and they may not be good,

524
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Speaker 2: but given the speed at which they're probably going to

525
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: run their offense, they get a bunch of teams right after,

526
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: right before, like in awkward spots. Can they be that

527
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: disgusting spray that you see on social media being used

528
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 2: at like fast food windows?

529
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Speaker 1: Far I have not seen this social media trend.

530
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's horrendous. It seems horrendous, but that's what I'm

531
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Speaker 2: looking forward to. They're not going to be good in

532
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: the short term, but they have like a bunch of

533
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Speaker 2: advance spots on their schedule this year.

534
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Speaker 1: I feel like all the all the hawk toot stuff

535
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: has crowded out any kind of farts.

536
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Speaker 2: I don't understand that reference explain it in detail tonight.

537
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Speaker 1: We'll continue.

538
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, much quicker?

539
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: TI Are we sleeping on the fact that it's reasonable

540
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: to look at Nico being a superhuman bound for New York.

541
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Speaker 1: I texted with friend of the show Tim Murray A Viisen,

542
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: Yeah this weekend, and he's all in on Nico. Ah Man,

543
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in on Nico too, just unlimited

544
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: highlights that I saw from the spring game. Definitely looks

545
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: the part. Definitely looks the part. Seems as if he

546
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: gives that offense a little bit more flair. We won't

547
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: know until we actually see him out there in September.

548
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: But like if you're a Dolls fan, the combination of

549
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: again wider pathway in combination of going to Visionless, combination

550
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: of getting this new hotshot quarterback, there's a lot to

551
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: be excited about. How does that materialize within the context

552
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: of their schedule and their conference and where Tennessee isn't

553
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: national conversation that is a conversation for previous season. We

554
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: get into our previews talking about Tennessee and all these teams.

555
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 2: Really I have down here for Miszoo that is there

556
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: a team that is more qualified to be the SEC's

557
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: if should team, if Miszoo is in fact Miszoo, they

558
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: should win this game. If Missoo is in fact Miszoo,

559
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: when you look at their schedule in mid October, they

560
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: should win this game. Right That to me is I

561
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: would think, yeah, that is my if should team LSU

562
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 2: is super fascinating. I mean everybody like I have down

563
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: here for LSU, like they're the multiverse team of the SEC.

564
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: That I could give you five different, fully distinct journeys

565
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: that LSU has through the SEC schedule and you would

566
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: hear me out.

567
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: And be like bick to that.

568
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: It all makes sense, totally, totally reasonable and my favorite

569
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: one of all tie. And I'm not going to dwell

570
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: on South Carolina. We've done, We've had South Carolina conversations.

571
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: I want Vanderbilt. And my question is should Vanderbilt fully

572
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: lean into being the SEC's snake bite program? Do you

573
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: know what a snake bite is with regard to NBA players.

574
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: I know, I only learned it this morning, so I

575
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: give you full credit.

576
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: I know I know what it means to be snake

577
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: bitten like Mark pryor totally former shot that cub snake

578
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: bitten with injuries and that sort of thing. But beyond that.

579
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Speaker 2: No, Sometimes you hear about players being dirty in the NBA,

580
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: like everybody's like John Stockton, totally dirty player, and you're like,

581
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: but how why he's John Stockton. A snake bite is

582
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: when people are setting picks, or you're setting a pick

583
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: or whatever, when when you're in closed and you're boxing

584
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 2: out for rebound, you basically aggressively pinch somebody and the

585
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: refs don't see it, and you sort of, you know,

586
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: you know how you pinch somebody, use two fingers, you know,

587
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: your index finger, your middle finger and your thumb, and

588
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: you just drive it into somebody's you know, the meaty

589
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: flanks of their body and pinch and it's super dirty

590
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: and awful. I want Vanderbilt, you know, running more options

591
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: stuff with Diego Pavia. They should hire somebody like Don

592
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: Brown to run their defense whatever. Where they're just the

593
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: most annoying, possibly dirty team in the SEC that I

594
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: hope is zach.

595
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: Given like their squeaky clean image of academic institution that

596
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: may or may not have the stadium.

597
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: Jerry Kill coming in as like a consultant and offensive

598
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: assistant or assistant head coach Timback, but not the Tim

599
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: Back coming in as the new offensive coordinator. So it's

600
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: like the the zach kittleisation. Yeah, from Houston Baptist to

601
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: Western Kentucky. I think from a few years ago Bailey's appy.

602
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: So they're like bringing the whole crew back and now

603
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: to Nashville. Like, could they just lean into the like

604
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: villainous whatever, nothing matters. We might all be out of

605
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: a job in a few months. Anyway, Let's get real dirty.

606
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: Let's play in the mud with everybody. We play can

607
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: engauge it in the mud and the blood and the beer?

608
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Speaker 1: Dan?

609
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: Could they be that for me? We shall see.

610
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: Shall we talk about the ACC next?

611
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: I think you had the acc and I did have.

612
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Speaker 1: A west Like, where do you want to go next?

613
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: While I'm on a roll time? Yeah, while you're on a.

614
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: Roll, give me a few more questions that are really

615
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: keeping you up at night?

616
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Speaker 2: Will we get incredible travel graphic maps during these games?

617
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Speaker 1: I have in part two when we get to part

618
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: two of this, Yeah, I have a similar thought.

619
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Speaker 2: Like it's I don't know, like fran Brown's head atop

620
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: a cartoon plane traveling across and back and forth the

621
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Speaker 2: United States. We're gonna get a lot of those like

622
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Speaker 2: this is how many miles Virginia Tech has traveled this year?

623
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Speaker 3: A lot of spreadsheets, making the rounds on college football Reddit,

624
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: that type of ying.

625
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, which new team will make the biggest dent in

626
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: the ACC? That they will be the ones knocking. I

627
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: don't know if any of them will make a big dent,

628
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: but if there is a team Stanford, Cal SMU, the

629
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: most obvious call is SMU because of where they were

630
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: last year. But they haven't necessarily built Power five lines

631
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: all the time, so that could be a new thing

632
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: for the Mustangs. And to what extent will Florida State

633
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: and Clemson litigation wanting to leave the conference the future

634
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: of the conference? How much of that will hang over

635
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: the conference this year? I suspect not a ton unless

636
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: there is like a decision legally or there is a

637
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: major move forward in there, because I just kind of

638
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: suspect when the football starts, it's largely going to be

639
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 2: about football. But that's what I kind of have right

640
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: now with the ACC. And I have individual team questions,

641
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: but in terms of where the ACC is now, that's

642
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: what I'm thinking about.

643
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: You know, the one constant over the last couple of

644
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: years as being a college football fan and podcasts like

645
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: you and I are. Yeah, it feels like every time

646
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: we let our guard down and feel like every time,

647
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: oh okay, we have clarity on this. Now we can

648
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: move on. Every time, especially in the preseason, especially through

649
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: July and August. It's happened the last two years. Now

650
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: it feels like you can let your guard down. It

651
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: feels like you can look forward, get ready for the season,

652
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: and then we have these weird college football administrative business

653
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: what have you stories totally separate from anything that takes

654
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: place in the field. We have these stories that sneak

655
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: up on us. And that's not to say that the

656
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Speaker 1: Florida State and Clemson litigation unc well, they won't they

657
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: are they interested in this? Are they not? Like That's

658
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: not to say any of this stuff is for sure

659
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: going to like come do in the next few weeks.

660
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: But the ACC seems like it's in a really weird

661
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: place in terms of stability. They're adding numbers, I think,

662
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: to insulate themselves from any sort of future exit. Right

663
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: at the same time, it feels like among the power

664
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: comp which is that we talk about here, they are

665
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: the one that is the most vulnerable this day and age,

666
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: given everything that's going on. So I don't know if

667
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: there's more news that comes on any of those fronts,

668
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: but the ACC seems like a likely candidate for late

669
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: breaking business news that again up ends our entire vision

670
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: of what college football is and was and will be

671
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: next Yeah, I.

672
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: Mean, look, we're due for any sort of it's college football.

673
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: So as we enter July August, like, I just will

674
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: never be surprised if four days before the season starts,

675
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: Smack Brown retires, right that, Like, there's just going to

676
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: be something like, oh, he's done.

677
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: That's it.

678
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: Not a break will be that thing, right because there's

679
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: a thing every year like that, Yeah, what will be

680
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: that thing that we got to break into kind of

681
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: our normal schedule and record an emerge a pod or

682
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: something because people want to hear about this this news item.

683
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: There will be that thing.

684
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: I you know, whether it's the ACC or not, it remains

685
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: to be seen. But I'm mindful of this now. I

686
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 1: had been burnt too many times. As we said, Earl,

687
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm ready to be hurt again.

688
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: I have is Dabo the worst hardware store employee in America.

689
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: He's he's the Brent, He's the Gary where you're just

690
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: like no wrong Isle, Like, no, we don't. We don't

691
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: carry lugnuts Gary in what still ales Clemson? And last

692
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: year it was on the road. It was the horrific

693
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: start against Duke with the red zone struggles. It was

694
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: just not looking right against NC State. It's not finding receivers,

695
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 2: it's not utilizing the portal, it's not you know, winning

696
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: winnable games like it's it's all of the above with Clemson,

697
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: and honestly, like I think we collectively sort of it's

698
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: it's become a little bit overblown. Clemson's I mean, they

699
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: went eight to no in the ACC two years ago, right,

700
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: but there's just expectations that you know, Dabo himself set

701
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: the bar, and so I just wonder with this year's team, well,

702
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: receivers be there, offensive line, you know, winning those close games,

703
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: not losing to like Miami in overtime and a dumble

704
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: like all that stuff that, Like do you have a

705
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: handle on your patio?

706
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: Dabo, Yeah, doesn't doesn't know what ale the laquer is in,

707
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: but definitely has some thoughts in the political climate, like.

708
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: That's what you'll get the lacquer industry.

709
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you if you ask Dabo a question, where's

710
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: the lacker? You're you're going to get a little bit

711
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: more than you bargained for. Yeah, absolutely, nice, nice guy.

712
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: Don't give me a nice guy. But isn't as helpful

713
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: as the aforementioned Steve with the vest.

714
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: You asked him about wrenches, and instead of telling you

715
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: which wrench to get and where the wrenches are, he

716
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 2: just has thoughts on the idea of using a wrench.

717
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: The idea behind the wrench. Yet right, exactly you know

718
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: where the wrench started? Exactly?

719
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 3: I have down here? Is col playing the weirdest schedule

720
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: in America? They kind of are. I don't know if

721
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 3: you looked at it, it's so weird. It's so weird.

722
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: I have down here. I just don't understand the luve.

723
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: Does that make me a bad person? I don't know,

724
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: but I've been hurt before by the time because experience.

725
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: Is this because of the conversation we had on our

726
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: bonus episode about Papa John's Instagram feed.

727
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: Oh it is a great feed. Let's be very cool.

728
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: He quotes himself probably not a great guy, maybe not,

729
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: but quotes himself every third Yeah, posting.

730
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: I have down here? Winning as a skill? Is it

731
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: one Brent Key possesses m I wonder about that, losing

732
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 2: close games, winning close games, Like, will they win close

733
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: more than they lose close this year? Like with the

734
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: experience they bring back, especially Haines King.

735
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: We're really high on Haines King here on this show. Yeah,

736
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: we're King makers.

737
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit.

738
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: Worried about how high we are on on Haines King.

739
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: I have Can Manny Diez be defensive? Tedford like he

740
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: just needed to find his place, right, Jeff Tedford found

741
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 2: what the San Joaquin Valley Fresno State now different parts

742
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: of their lives, of course, but like given the pressure

743
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: he faced at Miami as a head coach, getting the

744
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: time at Penn State, given that there won't be nearly

745
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: the pressure at Duke, given that you know so much

746
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: of the roster has turned over, a new quarterback, knew

747
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 2: everything like well, Manny Diaz find like a niche in Durham. Oh,

748
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: I mean, look in the way Mike Galco did, but

749
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: not at a different stage in their careers. The question

750
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: for me with Duke, yeah, undeniably is Malik Murphy. I

751
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 2: am so excited to see Malik Murphy. I'm so excited

752
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 2: to play with Malik Murphy in the New College Football

753
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: video game. I'd love to see what his stats are.

754
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody has them.

755
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't seen him, but he seems

756
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: like if he is as advertised and we only saw

757
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: him here and there, but he looks like a god

758
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: among insects. He is a monster of a kid. I

759
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: am dying to see what he can do in the ACC.

760
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if he is half as good as we

761
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: thought he was going to be last season, again limited action,

762
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: I think he could take that conference by storm. It

763
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: could be very interesting, especially if they have that defense.

764
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: I have, well serious, well serious, Will Syracuse be the

765
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: ACC's weirdest team, Like, given how they're probably going to

766
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: play on both sides of the ball, given Kyle McCord,

767
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: given you know, bringing back an old transfer in the

768
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: secondary from you know, to LSU, back from LSU, all

769
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: those types, like, will they be an extremely weird team

770
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: in year one under Fran Brown?

771
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: I assume yes. I assume yes.

772
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: Like I assume Syracuse will beat somebody terrific and inexplicably

773
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 2: lose to like a clear non bowl team by twenty

774
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: That's what I assume Syracuse season in year one, Fran

775
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: Brown will be like, I have down here, what is

776
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: this year's nine and three flavor for NC State? Boison

777
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: Berry losing on a fake field goal? Like, what is

778
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: their nine and three flavor? How do they get to

779
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: nine and three?

780
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: Yes? Like it's preordained, right, it's it's been.

781
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: You're almost reverse engineering because you know how it's going

782
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: to end up.

783
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: Correct. It's just a matter of how are they going

784
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: to get there? NC State?

785
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: To me, if I'm being honest talking about Malik Murphy,

786
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: the Grayson McCall thing has, oh, of course captivated me

787
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: because I thought he was going to leave before last season,

788
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: not to say he was going to go to NC State,

789
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: and I think there were like Florida rumors. I think

790
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: there were Auburn rumors for Grayson McCall. It didn't obviously

791
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: work out. He stuck around with Coastal Carolina, got hurt,

792
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: didn't have a great year. But now going to NC State,

793
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: it feels like there's a lot there for the taking

794
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: for him and his old play call, or as at

795
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: least his old offense with Jamie Chadwell when he was

796
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: still a Coastal that was so much fun to watch.

797
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm just curious to see how they tap into the

798
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: skill set because he's a dual threat kid. He obviously

799
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: has a lot of talent. We didn't see a whole

800
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: lot of it last year because of injury and the

801
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: offense as a whole. But I think NC State's got

802
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: a really good opportunity with him, and you know we

803
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: did that. You can go back and listen to the

804
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: NC State specific episode we did. There's there's a lot

805
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: to like about this team, and so I'm a little

806
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: bit fearful that NC State is going to be one

807
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: of those teams I have one one or two in

808
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: each conference where I'm just ridiculously high on a team.

809
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: I look at the schedule, I look at the roster.

810
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm almost blinded by those two things, and then I

811
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: can't see past it. NC State might be that kind

812
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: of team for me this year.

813
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll win at Clemson. Plot twist M Night Shamalan,

814
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: M Dave Shyamalan lose to Stanford and Calan back to

815
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: back weeks. Right, that's you know, that'll be the fun

816
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: plot twist for NC State. I have down here. Can

817
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: Virginia quietly shift to winning close exclusively through speed with

818
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: your former favorite notreed aimer Chris Tyree. They kind of

819
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: lost a bunch of close games last year. They did,

820
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: they did Virginia, and I think they're gonna go with

821
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 2: what Calandria now at quarterback full time. I think we'll see,

822
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 2: but I don't know it'll be exclusively through speed. I

823
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna have a defense. So that's kind

824
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: of interesting to me. Can we all just watch wake

825
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: Forest highlights from six or seven years ago?

826
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: I have down here?

827
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: Is Virginia Tech real or fake? Good SMU right place,

828
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: right time? Things seem bleak for Pitt. Does that mean

829
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: they'll be weirdly nine and three, ten and two this year?

830
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Speaking of reverse engineering the none and three? Yeah,

831
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: how does it happen that Pit goes not? Yeah?

832
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: They feel it feels crazy bleak. Now they hire a

833
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator, they're going to try to play fast.

834
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 2: I think Nate Yarnell's promising. They return a bunch of

835
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: guys on offense. But still, and maybe it was just

836
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: a like last year thing filled Yourkovic vibes were down,

837
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: vibes were terrible. But I don't know, man, things seem

838
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: very bleak in Pit.

839
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: I just remember some of the conversations we had about

840
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: filder Kovic, and it wasn't so much you and I

841
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: as it was people on our discord at for bowlers

842
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: dot Com and the way that he went from promising

843
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: transfer to backup order back to oh no, like he's

844
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: just like not gonna play anymore.

845
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: It was.

846
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: It was such a stark contrast from start to finish

847
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: that I'm not sure I ever gave myself a chance

848
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: to live it down last year. It was kind of

849
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: a wild turn that I didn't see coming. He's from

850
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: that part of the country, He's from Western ba Like,

851
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: it just really stuck up on me.

852
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fully cop to something. I at one point

853
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: decided to start toying with the idea of convincing you

854
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: that J. T. Daniels was still playing for a number

855
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: of teams and seeing how far down that road I

856
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: can get to with you. But I decided not to.

857
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: The other thing I have is I feel nothing about

858
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: Boston College.

859
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: Will that change?

860
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Jeff Hafley left. Now they got Bill O'Brien.

861
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: I think that makes them interesting. It makes them makes

862
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: them a point of conversation. Got the local kid back in.

863
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: They're running shop chin dimple.

864
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: I don't know.

865
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: That seems just like like we kind of know how

866
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: this is going to end. Like Boston College maybe is

867
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: that team that upsets somebody but still goes three and nine. Like,

868
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: it's hard to see. It's hard to see the recruiting

869
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: going in a fun, interesting place that they're competing with,

870
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: you know, big schools for guys in PA or New

871
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: Jersey or something like that. I just I don't know.

872
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: I kind of think it's a lose lose situation. So

873
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: those are my ACC questions.

874
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: I do like Thomas Castellanos, their quarterback. He had a

875
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: few good games last.

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00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: Year and I have score sixty points a game.

877
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: B see, they will need to score a lot of points. Yeah,

878
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: before we go on to part two here, do.

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00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: You have any acc questions or anything like that that

880
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: to bookend.

881
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean, my big one, My big one is Malik Murphy.

882
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: Beyond that, it was Grayson McCall and I think beyond that,

883
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: if we further zoom out, it was what you mentioned

884
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: at the very top, and that is just the longer

885
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: term sustainability of the conference and what kind of weirdness

886
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: comes as a result of it. You know, like when

887
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: we start seeing things through the lens of money, Yeah,

888
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: you get really weird, interesting answers to like and everyone's

889
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: got their own answer for how they're going to like

890
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: move forward in this new era, right everybody. It means

891
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: different things to different programs, different people, But it just

892
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: feels like this is a great recipe right now for

893
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: really bad ideas, and I put it past exactly nobody

894
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: to come up with them. I'm gonna talk in part

895
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: two about brett Or Mark. There's a lot of time

896
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: left between now and the start of the season. Brett

897
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: Or Mark's definitely got that bone in his body where

898
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: he can come up with another Taco Bell canteen, a

899
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: moment sure to make the Big twelve a little bit

900
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: more of a sideshow, right Like, He's he's got that

901
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: in him, and I fear there are a lot of

902
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: programs and administrators and guys with dollars signs in their

903
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: eyes who have potential to do just that. Before we

904
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Speaker 1: start this.

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00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: Up, I left off Miami and Florida State. By the way,

906
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: Miami is my acc if should yeah, look, if Miami

907
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: is Miami should win this game, that game, this game,

908
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: that game, especially given what's on their schedule where those

909
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: games are played.

910
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: If cam moart is cam Wart, if he.

911
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: Is everything that we have heaped onto him, yeah, should

912
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: win that game rather comfortably. Miamis Miami has to be the.

913
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: If should, the Classic Ift should?

914
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: The Classic Ift should. And then for Florida State, I'm

915
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: just wondering why it's DJU. I'm just still kind of

916
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: wondering why they Florida State looked at the landscape, and

917
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: I know, I truly think that if Florida State is

918
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: excellent this year or even just really good, I think

919
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: it's an incredible reflection on Mike Norvell and the job

920
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: he will have done by that point, given what they lose.

921
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: But they've recruited very well or decently well for Florida State,

922
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: and there is star power at various places on this

923
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: too deep. But I still wonder why that was specifically

924
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: the move, and I guess we'll find out for better

925
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: or worse this year. I just feel like we've seen

926
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: enough of him to sort of come to the conclusion

927
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: about what he is or is not, and I feel

928
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 2: like Florida State being on the edge of the playoff

929
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: and now certainly a program that should consider itself playoff

930
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: contenders annually. Given what's going to twelve and then fourteen,

931
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: I just wonder why they didn't go a different direction

932
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: but always wrong. So I don't know. I think that's

933
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: my acc And along with the sort of allusion to

934
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: Mac Brown of just like is this are we just

935
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: at that point of the Mac Brown experience at a

936
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Speaker 2: different place?

937
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: With Carolina is a huge enigma. I have no idea

938
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Speaker 1: what to make in North Carolina. And again it's early.

939
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: We haven't fully done the research in any of these schools,

940
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: but North Carolina, I have no idea what to expect

941
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: from the Tar Hills.

942
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: I can tell you what to expect from Max Johnson. Oh,

943
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: he will make three throws every game in which use

944
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: after which you say to yourself, holy cow, that was incredible.

945
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 2: And he will make three more throws in that same

946
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 2: game where you will say to yourself, holy cow, why

947
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: oh why did he ever consider even trying that?

948
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: Right? That's how you hear about quarterbacks who can make

949
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: all the throws. You can't, no, no, he can.

950
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: It to be understood, Yeah, he doesn't make the throws

951
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: the way Quin yours makes the throws. There's a lot

952
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: of pop gun arm in there. He's carrying the mantle

953
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: for one Bryant monies the all time great pop gun arm.

954
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: But he's had some disappointing offensive lines in front of him.

955
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: He's had something like.

956
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: That.

957
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: But he's serviceable. You know, he's serviceable.

958
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: He can run an offense. He gives you some stability.

959
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: It is kind of an in between time now with

960
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: losing Drake May before him, you know that they've had

961
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks come through North Carolina and be very marketable to

962
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: the next level. But it's a question of is there

963
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: enough balance on the team beyond those quarterbacks to really

964
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: get the job done. Defense, for example, has been ever

965
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: the issue, and now they're going to need to rely

966
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: I think a little bit more on their defense to

967
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: keep them in games because I don't know if Max

968
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: Johnson's going to give them the same firepower quarterback.

969
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: He will give you the correct change at the hardware store. Correct, Okay,

970
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: same page.

971
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Speaker 1: So look, we're gonna get to part two here on

972
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: our next episode. You and I both also have G

973
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Speaker 1: five thoughts, not the least of which is the USSEF stuff. Yeah,

974
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: very high in USF this year. I can't deny my

975
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: feelings any longer. We can start off the next episode

976
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Speaker 1: talking about that in some other G five schools. If

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Speaker 1: you're okay with that, of course, I am hit, follow, hit,

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Speaker 1: name is Ty Hildebrandt. As always he is Dan Rubinstein

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Speaker 1: for Ballers dot com as our Patreon, follow us on

981
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Speaker 1: social media. Welcome to the good fine month of July,

982
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Speaker 1: where we start previewing teams. This was the preview to

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Speaker 1: the preview Part one, Part two coming up in a

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Speaker 1: few days.

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Speaker 3: To meantime, stay solid, peace,