Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Car Stories
Speaker 1: with soun K and Amelia Hartford.
Speaker 2: And today we have an old friend. I met him on.
Speaker 3: The set of Tokyo Drift and he happened to be
Speaker 3: my driving double. So he's the one that made me
Speaker 3: look like I knew what I was doing, which should
Speaker 3: I do not?
Speaker 1: Our guest has so much courage and passion, and it
Speaker 1: takes a lot of that to leave your home country
Speaker 1: and come to America.
Speaker 3: He's a true example of the American dream working out
Speaker 3: coming from a small town in Sweden and then Megan
Speaker 3: Olie to Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and outside of all the stunt work that he does,
Speaker 1: he's also a two time Formula Drift champion, has won
Speaker 1: X Games, rallycross medals, several podiums, and short course off
Speaker 1: road racing. He is an incredible driver. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Then he's a great example of someone that knows how
Speaker 3: to balance their professional life and family life. He's an
Speaker 3: amazing husband, amazing father, and lucky to call him an
Speaker 3: amazing friend without further ado.
Speaker 1: Samuel Hubenet, So did.
Speaker 3: You start with commercial stunt driving or he went straight
Speaker 3: into movies?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 5: So I started in Sweden I grew up in Lapland,
Speaker 5: Sweden about the Arctic circle. It's like northern Alaska. To
Speaker 5: give you an adea how far up. I grew up
Speaker 5: in a smaller the town called Yokmok. It means a
Speaker 5: river bend in Laplandish language jockmock. Anyway, I started driving
Speaker 5: on frozen lakes as a kid. My dad let me
Speaker 5: start driving for fun, just in his old Mercedes three
Speaker 5: hundred Diesel nineteen seventy six model, which was power enough
Speaker 5: to just spin the tires on frozen ice on the
Speaker 5: lake frozen lakes, and that's where I learned to drive
Speaker 5: as a young age, around the eight years nine years old.
Speaker 5: He started letting me. Soon as I reached the paddles,
Speaker 5: I started driving. Of course, way back then we had
Speaker 5: no idea what drifting was, but it was with sliding
Speaker 5: cars was fun. I think around the fifteen years old age.
Speaker 5: I remember because I was watching him driving and I
Speaker 5: was like, no, he should do this, and I started
Speaker 5: to go faster and the eyes track than him, and
Speaker 5: I mean I just had a passion for it.
Speaker 4: Then no one told me what to do.
Speaker 5: I just felt like I learned very quickly and was
Speaker 5: natural and that's kind of where it started for me.
Speaker 4: From there, I had a mechanical background school.
Speaker 5: I wasn't into being in school much was studying, but
Speaker 5: I just wanted to get out and drive my dirt
Speaker 5: bikes in the summer, or get on the ice track
Speaker 5: in the winter, or snowmobile riding was a big passion
Speaker 5: for me. Having long winters there seven months six seven
Speaker 5: months with snow so spent most of my money in
Speaker 5: my youth age working the summer planting trees in the
Speaker 5: forest to make money to buy a newer snowbill every winter,
Speaker 5: which I crashed a lot, but back then insurance was
Speaker 5: doing well.
Speaker 4: And the side stories.
Speaker 5: Yeah, finally my insurance company kicked me out because I
Speaker 5: crashed my snowmobills so many times because I was just
Speaker 5: going crazy crazy. But yeah, so dirt bike riding, snowmobile
Speaker 5: riding in winter combined with driving the frozen lake. I
Speaker 5: just like driving gravel roads in some and my dad
Speaker 5: took me out to we had a lot of gravel roads.
Speaker 5: That's where a lot of the rally drivers become big
Speaker 5: stars from Finland, Sweden, Norway. Solberg and all the other
Speaker 5: drivers from Finland. They learned just driving on. We have
Speaker 5: a lot of gravel roads, just a lot of freedom there.
Speaker 5: Not many people, just roads, so you just go and
Speaker 5: do a thing there. There's not many cops and up
Speaker 5: there because there's not many people, so people can't handle
Speaker 5: their own business up there. That's that's They gave me
Speaker 5: a lot of the basic in my skills to.
Speaker 4: Move into a professional career.
Speaker 5: And I heard about Volvo testing cars up in Sweden
Speaker 5: from someone that knew they were up there.
Speaker 4: They were very secret about it.
Speaker 5: They were using an extra military airfield up outside my
Speaker 5: town that was blocked. Couldn't get in there. It was
Speaker 5: a military air base with three runways. Anyway, volves renting
Speaker 5: that in winter testing prototype cars. It's like, Wow, what
Speaker 5: a dream job to be paid to drive cars. I
Speaker 5: was like, but I was like, it's impossible. I mean,
Speaker 5: I live up here, this I could never become a
Speaker 5: pressure drive for driving cars. I mean, I proba have
Speaker 5: to settle with driving trucks for my dad. And that was,
Speaker 5: you know, good enough. But anyway, he gave me a
Speaker 5: number to call Volvo to see if I could get
Speaker 5: a job as test driver. This person in an answer,
Speaker 5: so he said, okay, I'm just gonna pull up yellow
Speaker 5: pages back then big phone book for Sweden, yellow page
Speaker 5: of Volver Sweden. One it handed Revolvo pretty much called
Speaker 5: them and said, hey, I want to talk to the
Speaker 5: person in charge of testing in jock Mak for winter testing.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll connect to you. She said.
Speaker 5: His name is Uligil Nason and he answered. I was like,
Speaker 5: I got nervous, like wow, well, hey, my name is Samuel.
Speaker 5: I live in Joka for you testing cars here? Do
Speaker 5: you need a local driver? He's like, well, matter of fact,
Speaker 5: I might need one. So what's your back on. Well,
Speaker 5: we can it background my dad at a trucking comp
Speaker 5: when I be driving trucks for you him and well,
Speaker 5: you know where the parts are then that's good. And
Speaker 5: you've been driving a lot so those are some good bases.
Speaker 5: I'll let you know in two three weeks I'll call
Speaker 5: you back. And he did, and I remember it was
Speaker 5: like nine in the morning. I didn't have much work
Speaker 5: for my dad at a time, so I was kind
Speaker 5: of slow and I was sleeping.
Speaker 4: So he woke me up and I was like, hell,
Speaker 4: are you sleeping. I'm like, yeah, I am. I'm glad.
Speaker 5: To be honest, this is Vulvo calling, will you get
Speaker 5: another Involvo? Can you come and meet me? So he
Speaker 5: wanted me to meet him another two hours north of
Speaker 5: our circle to another town called Kidro. Now that's where
Speaker 5: the Isotel is, which is famous around the world the Isotel.
Speaker 5: So bought my mom's car, drove up there, met him,
Speaker 5: and he hired me and started as a winter test driver.
Speaker 5: And that started my career as a professional driver driving cars.
Speaker 5: And I was fortunate enough to do a commercial for
Speaker 5: him that win because they were scouting up there for
Speaker 5: a Volvo commercial for the new Volvo eight fifty turbo
Speaker 5: in the team there looking at this test track and
Speaker 5: they were going to film there and I was like
Speaker 5: pitching my test car siways when as I drove by
Speaker 5: them sires, trying to show off for them, and it worked.
Speaker 5: He asked my boss if they could use me locally,
Speaker 5: and I got to drive from my first commercial for them,
Speaker 5: and this.
Speaker 4: Was nineteen ninety two ninety three the winter over there.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's how I started.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a great story.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a testament to pursuing and going after
Speaker 3: your dreams. Yeah, some of it is Lucky had to
Speaker 3: call you back, but you went after it.
Speaker 5: That's that's pretty I know. I think that's it could
Speaker 5: be encouraging for a lot of people, because you know,
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people here in the beginning,
Speaker 5: when I came and got into drifting, it thought I
Speaker 5: was I know, some people thought I was on the
Speaker 5: silver plate. They saw me the first thing in the
Speaker 5: Dodge Viper competing. But to get there, I was involved
Speaker 5: with them for nine years testing and doing core commercial.
Speaker 5: I got into the race team, involve them doing touring
Speaker 5: car raising as wed and build up a lot of experience,
Speaker 5: but decided I wanted to pursue basically just living California,
Speaker 5: in the sunny California and work around cars. At the time,
Speaker 5: I got into instructing with Skip Barber raising school and
Speaker 5: working with rich Rudtherford, which also was in part of
Speaker 5: Drifting Beginning and Fast and Fears and tenor files. We
Speaker 5: were instructors for different schools. Of course, I was in
Speaker 5: front seat writing shotgun instructing, not the dream, not a
Speaker 5: whole lot of income, but I was still happier than
Speaker 5: I was back in Sweden. I was in sunny California,
Speaker 5: living my dream. But still I want to, of course
Speaker 5: be paid to driving. Lucky and blessed enough. Drifting was
Speaker 5: introduced two thousand and three by D one came Over
Speaker 5: introduced it at Urundell. Me and Rich heard that they
Speaker 5: were looking for local American drivers who compete against the
Speaker 5: D one drivers for a exhibition competition.
Speaker 2: Rich to who's Rich?
Speaker 5: Rich Rudtherford, He's a stuntman. He was part of drifting beginning,
Speaker 5: great old friend of mine and of Reese Millen and
Speaker 5: Rich drove of Fast and fears. It was so reach
Speaker 5: tann myself there anyway, what's gonna go with this?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So then sport of drifting we heard it was like, wow,
Speaker 5: it sounds very interesting sliding cars. This could be my
Speaker 5: opening to get into stunt world. I get into drifting,
Speaker 5: and that should be able to show me my skills
Speaker 5: so I can maybe get a job in some movie
Speaker 5: or commercials. That was just you know, even if I
Speaker 5: don't have the best equipment or whatever, if I'm part
Speaker 5: of it in the beginning, it's going to be a
Speaker 5: smaller group and it's easy to get in there and
Speaker 5: get momentum.
Speaker 4: I end up showing up with them.
Speaker 5: Must and convertible with the V six because the car
Speaker 5: I was going to rent, the M three was rented
Speaker 5: out and the Corvette was gonna rent didn't get return
Speaker 5: in time. And I show up with must and convertible
Speaker 5: with the V six to the first D one drivers
Speaker 5: search with the drift king and they didn't even let
Speaker 5: me even try because it was a convertible. It was
Speaker 5: too unsafe. At the Urbandel Speedway, this is the one
Speaker 5: that Succia came to. Yeah, wow, yeah, so she came
Speaker 5: over to look for American drivers to compete against the
Speaker 5: D one drivers for the first exhibition competition two thousand
Speaker 5: and three in August, I believe it was.
Speaker 4: Anyway, Rich and Nick let me pop it up in
Speaker 4: their car and we go out.
Speaker 5: Then fifty two drivers or they DIEU Shihara, Chris Forsberg,
Speaker 5: all kinds of historically format drift drivers. But he only
Speaker 5: accepted eight guys out of fifty two that was trying out,
Speaker 5: and he told me I call for number one. I remember,
Speaker 5: and in the rental knees on three fifty z.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And this is before major wide angle kits in massive
Speaker 1: forest power and all that. Or were you guys still
Speaker 1: modifying suspension.
Speaker 5: No, no, this was a stock knees on three fifty
Speaker 5: Z we rented. We just switched red tired to come
Speaker 5: there and compete. Some guys had their own cars, we
Speaker 5: didn't have once we rented just a stock one and
Speaker 5: had snapped the fuse to take away the traction and
Speaker 5: stability control out of it. Six months later two thousand
Speaker 5: and four, in February, the first competition with points, they
Speaker 5: were not going to hold back and I was lucky
Speaker 5: enough to get into it super the same super recent
Speaker 5: random I believe, and he had built it for Pike speak.
Speaker 5: I think, so it's a good car, and I managed
Speaker 5: to come into top ten in the first D one
Speaker 5: competition I competed in and the only non Japanese on
Speaker 5: the American drivers to make it top ten and Dodge
Speaker 5: what their more part looking for this new sport and
Speaker 5: they call me and asked me to join them for
Speaker 5: drifting for them in a viper for form a drift
Speaker 5: that start that year.
Speaker 3: Well you kind of like the Swedish Takumi from initial
Speaker 3: D really I think about it. You grew up driving
Speaker 3: in the snow and the gravel back home, so you
Speaker 3: naturally learned how to control a car and drift without
Speaker 3: anybody really teaching you, right, and then you come over
Speaker 3: here and you qualify number one at the first d
Speaker 3: one so chee a hand picks you and then you're
Speaker 3: in the top ten.
Speaker 2: That's like a crazy success story.
Speaker 3: That's amazing, Sam, because kids dream and they practice every
Speaker 3: day today to like become you. Right, But then you
Speaker 3: grew up with this. It's like and you naturally were.
Speaker 3: I think we're like born to be a stunt driver
Speaker 3: or a drifter or pro driver. Pretty crazy, you know.
Speaker 3: But what I want to ask you, and I think
Speaker 3: a lot of people listening, especially young folks, is what
Speaker 3: gave you the courage to just leave home and come here?
Speaker 3: Because you know, like through these conversations, I want to
Speaker 3: you know, share people's journeys and you know, kind of
Speaker 3: give people the process of how someone becomes successful. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sure it was pretty scary to just drop everything
Speaker 3: at home and come to America. Yeah, you know, so
Speaker 3: what gave you the courage to do that? And what
Speaker 3: was the process of that before all the drifting stuff?
Speaker 5: Yah know, I almost asked myself that too, now, you know,
Speaker 5: knowing how how long this journey was to get more
Speaker 5: established here and make a living driving cars because it
Speaker 5: was not an easy task. But yeah, I had a
Speaker 5: solid test drive a job I was doing commercial for
Speaker 5: voll Over there, so I had a lot of cool stuff.
Speaker 5: The only thing I really knew I was doing really
Speaker 5: well was and to be able to make a living
Speaker 5: doing that in motorsports or stunt drying. Was to get
Speaker 5: over to Los Angeles and get into this part of
Speaker 5: the world where there were so many more opportunities. So
Speaker 5: I think the sunshine the blue sky was a big
Speaker 5: drought because I was really over long winters and South
Speaker 5: Sweden has a lot of just cloudy, rainy winters. And
Speaker 5: also one friend, Andrea, suddenly he's like, Okay, I'm moving
Speaker 5: to Floria and he just quit and moved over there.
Speaker 5: I was like, wow, I've been talking about this for
Speaker 5: years to him, and I just did it. Life is short.
Speaker 5: I was thinking I got to do too. If not,
Speaker 5: I'm going to be stuck and just not getting it done.
Speaker 5: So I just mediciation. Okay, I'm quitting my full time
Speaker 5: job selling everything I have and I'm just going to
Speaker 5: head over here and give it a try. Because I
Speaker 5: was like, Sweden is still there, I can always fly
Speaker 5: back to go planes every day. So when I'll give
Speaker 5: you a chance, and I didn't, and I had to
Speaker 5: grind here for a few years, just kept knocking on
Speaker 5: doors and finally, you know, God will open up the
Speaker 5: right doors as they come, but you have.
Speaker 4: To keep trying.
Speaker 2: Did you know anybody in LA to help you?
Speaker 5: I didn't know anyone in Los Angeles. Now, basically knew
Speaker 5: a childhood friend, Linda. She married a man here, and
Speaker 5: you peach end up there because she helped me introduce
Speaker 5: me to people down there because she knew people in
Speaker 5: Orange County. I met some people in the industry were
Speaker 5: doing instruction stuff, so yeah, that I had got to know. Yeah,
Speaker 5: some people which were basically want to be raised drivers
Speaker 5: that were doing instruction jobs. So I knew some people
Speaker 5: that were scared around there, more of the a lot
Speaker 5: of the states, but we were all just hungry to
Speaker 5: be doing the sane getting and be paid a drive
Speaker 5: instead of being in the front seat pretty much.
Speaker 3: So it's crazy now when you hear the name Tanner
Speaker 3: Fowls and Reese Millen and Samuel Hubernet, it's like the
Speaker 3: legends of the the driving community, right.
Speaker 1: You guys, are like stable names. Now, wow, in the space.
Speaker 1: I hope you realize that because like it's you have
Speaker 1: such an incredible story. You've kind of paved your own way.
Speaker 1: I mean you definitely have. You sold everything to pursue
Speaker 1: a dream, which is something that a lot of people
Speaker 1: only dream of doing but actually do it, and then
Speaker 1: to fight do your survival job, try to establish a
Speaker 1: career driving. And you're one of the I don't want
Speaker 1: to say like the founding fathers of this, but in
Speaker 1: a way, you know, you think of stunt or drifting
Speaker 1: and who were kind of the ogs that really helped
Speaker 1: with the evolution of everything. And your name is up
Speaker 1: there along with a couple others.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: It also means you're old now exactly.
Speaker 4: We are old. We are getting old, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean people talk when they bring up Tokyo Drift, where
Speaker 3: you and I met. Right, So Sam was my stunt driver.
Speaker 3: He would actually wear a wig to look like me, right.
Speaker 3: I mean they talk about this movie as like a classic.
Speaker 3: Now yeah, so waiting kind of a it's a little weird,
Speaker 3: you know, so so give us just the evolution or
Speaker 3: the story, the origin story of how you eventually got
Speaker 3: into Tokyo Drift or I just started driving for Fast
Speaker 3: and Furious.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of fans would love to hear that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, as I mentioned, I saw drifting to be
Speaker 5: in a gate into the stunt world. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'll just do this drifting whenever is landing cars and
Speaker 5: that should be able to showcase my skills and then
Speaker 5: I get into stunt driving. That was kind of my goal,
Speaker 5: but at that time I didn't know how big drift
Speaker 5: it was going to be, and so drifting took off,
Speaker 5: with former Drift being the US sanctioned series. I was
Speaker 5: in Agri Champion two thousand and four and then Reas
Speaker 5: one two thousand and five. I took it back two
Speaker 5: thousand and six, and I think ten and one two
Speaker 5: thousand and seven when I was in a charger because
Speaker 5: my car was too heavy to beat him.
Speaker 4: I'm blaming the car.
Speaker 5: I've had a good battley back and forth, but I
Speaker 5: was locked on a contract with some major responses like Beef,
Speaker 5: Goodrich and Dodge, so I had a lot of obligations.
Speaker 5: I couldn't take on stunt jobs as I wanted because
Speaker 5: I had different appearances and competitions and quite frankly started
Speaker 5: making quite a lot of money doing it, so the
Speaker 5: drive of stunt driving kind of faded a little bit.
Speaker 5: But obviously when Fast and Furious they needed the legit
Speaker 5: drifters in the movie, they had to pull people from
Speaker 5: outside and not use their current stunt drivers. So that
Speaker 5: gave the opportunity for Reese became the main stunt driver,
Speaker 5: and Tanner and myself and Rich the four us got
Speaker 5: to do all the driving and I got to be
Speaker 5: your double. And it was a huge thing for me,
Speaker 5: you know, finally, and it was like, wow, I was
Speaker 5: in a movie from not much experience at all here
Speaker 5: in the States, suddenly get to be part of that
Speaker 5: big movie.
Speaker 4: And it was brutal. It was night shoot.
Speaker 5: I think I worked for like seven weeks or something
Speaker 5: on that movie, and we worked night Monday to Friday
Speaker 5: night and then weekends off and you were just messed
Speaker 5: up because you were tweaked the hours.
Speaker 4: I was nervous. It was like very important for me.
Speaker 4: The car I drove. Your car was terrible.
Speaker 3: It was so hard to drive because it was a
Speaker 3: show carven FD or Ex seven with no tour.
Speaker 5: Just high RPM and tried to make those tire spin
Speaker 5: through the corners. In the beginning, it was so challenging,
Speaker 5: and there was right hand driving top of that, which
Speaker 5: I hadn't had too much experience in either, So man
Speaker 5: tired middle of the night depression and slide through traffic
Speaker 5: there and keep it sideways with so much traction. It
Speaker 5: was unbelievable. After have it take I was like, thank god,
Speaker 5: I didn't hit anyone. Okay, that went well again, And
Speaker 5: as we went we toarded and modified a little bit
Speaker 5: more because I popped several gear boxes and stuff because
Speaker 5: I had to clutch kick so hard to make those
Speaker 5: tides break traction. And then after a while we start
Speaker 5: to be a little more smart about it, so we
Speaker 5: put some smaller tires in the area I wasn't. I
Speaker 5: was too afraid to ask for anything. I was like,
Speaker 5: I'm just going to figure out. But after a while
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, do you want to take off
Speaker 5: some traction?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Can we?
Speaker 5: So they put some narrow tires towards the end, which
Speaker 5: made it so much easier. So I was like, now,
Speaker 5: I was like, this is a piece of cake because
Speaker 5: we took away amazing so much easier.
Speaker 4: But in the beginning, in the first couple of weeks.
Speaker 5: It was brutal and it was not pleasant for me,
Speaker 5: but it was like just grinding, make make the best
Speaker 5: oft of this, and hopefully you get to work again.
Speaker 1: Did you feel driving technique from racing was any different
Speaker 1: from stomp driving, because I know sometimes you want to
Speaker 1: make it look like you're not in control of the car.
Speaker 1: I know Tokyo Drift is a different example because everyone
Speaker 1: was like green drivers in it. But did you find
Speaker 1: there was a big difference in driving style between the
Speaker 1: two and what you needed to do?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think what I learned was to keep down the
Speaker 5: speed and basically left foot breaking way more you know,
Speaker 5: more tire smoke. Yeah, slower and more more smoke and
Speaker 5: more solids. You can do it over and nor again.
Speaker 5: That would be the difference.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: What I learned obviously pretty quickly, because I came from
Speaker 5: competing and drifting and you're trying to go as fast
Speaker 5: as possible sideways. Here was more like can we slow
Speaker 5: it down a little? Because in camera you can make
Speaker 5: it look fast anyway with closer angles and such. So
Speaker 5: I learned that, yeah, you don't have to go fall glass.
Speaker 5: You can slow it down with just left foot breaking
Speaker 5: a little bit and keep keep it smoke going, make
Speaker 5: it look spectacular, but keeople in the safer area.
Speaker 1: And what about for modern cars, do you I imagine
Speaker 1: with all you know how smart they are. If you
Speaker 1: love it break, does the car allow you to? Does
Speaker 1: abs kick on? What do you guys do for stuff
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? A lot of times you can't do it.
Speaker 5: Like you know, we do a lot of car commercials
Speaker 5: all the time, and most cars they flip out if
Speaker 5: you use two feed on the pallets at the same
Speaker 5: time and goes into limp mode for like feels like seconds,
Speaker 5: but it is maybe a second or two sometimes, but
Speaker 5: sometimes it dies. So you have to just figure out
Speaker 5: how to do without that to make the action at
Speaker 5: the right place. So that's what you always think. Where's
Speaker 5: the camera going to capture your action? And that's when
Speaker 5: you need to make it happen. After that, you can
Speaker 5: spin out to do whatever, but the angle has to
Speaker 5: be there if it's about drifting, and then you can even,
Speaker 5: for example, let it rotate around if it's outside the frame.
Speaker 5: Because as long as the director gets his shot, he's happy.
Speaker 5: So you do whatever you can to make it look
Speaker 5: good just for the camera moment.
Speaker 1: That's fascinating.
Speaker 3: Do you personally like the older cars or are you
Speaker 3: Are you always keeping up with new cars in your
Speaker 3: personal life.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, I like the future. I like new technology,
Speaker 5: you know, I think it's exciting. I don't know much
Speaker 5: about historic cars, Like if you go to a car
Speaker 5: show and there's a lot of fifties and forties or whatever,
Speaker 5: I don't know much so much about that. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: definitely more interested about today's and the future. But for
Speaker 5: driving wise, yeah, it gives us definitely a challenging times
Speaker 5: sometimes because the electrons. The ability control kicks in when
Speaker 5: you're trying to get the car side way, so you
Speaker 5: can't turn it off. A lot of times you can
Speaker 5: turn off the traction control. You can do you can spin,
Speaker 5: you can do little burnout or get some tires rotating.
Speaker 5: But as soon as you turn trying to get some
Speaker 5: steering angle, c kicks in and that's something sometimes you
Speaker 5: can even defeat. Sometimes we actually pull the abs sensors
Speaker 5: and that shuts down all those features as long as
Speaker 5: the car isn't go into limp mode. Sometimes the car
Speaker 5: can go into the limp only if you pull a
Speaker 5: few so so such so you have to figure out.
Speaker 1: Do you get time ahead and time to try to
Speaker 1: figure this out on set or are you showing up
Speaker 1: in the day of Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's funny how it is. It's such a short period
Speaker 5: of time. You have time to shoot the commercial, you
Speaker 5: say a day or two. Most of the time it's
Speaker 5: a day, so we don't have any time. You just
Speaker 5: got to figure out right away.
Speaker 4: In the morning, you.
Speaker 5: Look at the car and try to talk to the
Speaker 5: car for people if there's something you know, and then
Speaker 5: you figure yourself because as soon as the director's ready,
Speaker 5: you got on the street, you have the street locked up,
Speaker 5: you shoot and you move on and you guess said
Speaker 5: to get on the fly and don't screw up.
Speaker 3: Well, what about for the movies like in Fast and Furious,
Speaker 3: you guys don't have time to work with the car
Speaker 3: and modify it for your personal needs to perform those stunts.
Speaker 5: Movies are definitely better because all depends on who's making
Speaker 5: the cars to you know, Dennis mccarth, you know talent
Speaker 5: group of guys sometimes been building the cars for us
Speaker 5: for different movies, so then they're modified very well. So
Speaker 5: it depends if you're in one of the cars for
Speaker 5: the back. Usually just another beat up car. You have
Speaker 5: to try to do the best. But if it's a
Speaker 5: hero car, you have some type influenced a lot of times,
Speaker 5: but unfortunately a lot of times you ask for a
Speaker 5: lot and then things are not done the way you
Speaker 5: want anyway, and you're like, really, I asked for a
Speaker 5: lot differential because this is all about triff and now
Speaker 5: they give you an open diff I'm like, okay, not
Speaker 5: to just try to flick this car and make it
Speaker 5: as size as a cant because someone missed that message
Speaker 5: getting down the line. Yeah, because there's so many people involved,
Speaker 5: but like need for speed, throw that doublin Aaron Paul.
Speaker 4: That was a good setup Mustang. So I made the
Speaker 4: job very easy.
Speaker 5: You know, good power and good diff and just normal
Speaker 5: steering angles fine on the Musting to make it look good.
Speaker 3: I remember the Ft in Tokyo Trip when we were
Speaker 3: shooting that scene downtown where the car flips over. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's when they used to let the actors actually drive
Speaker 3: the cars around a little bit after that film, I
Speaker 3: basically never got in a car and drove it again.
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, I mean that movie was really fun
Speaker 3: because they sent us to or when they I don't
Speaker 3: know if you were there, but they had the viper,
Speaker 3: they had you know, they had the three fifty at
Speaker 3: the time, they had k car that at the Arc seven.
Speaker 3: So they let us drive the cars around and really,
Speaker 3: you know, get a feel of it and teach us
Speaker 3: as much as I could.
Speaker 2: After that film, we never did that again.
Speaker 4: That's a bummer. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I remember Brad, one of the guys that build
Speaker 3: the cars for the movie, that works for Dennis. He
Speaker 3: came up to me and he goes, hey, this has
Speaker 3: a like five hundred horsepower motor in it now, so
Speaker 3: be careful off the throttle because the body kid's gonna
Speaker 3: fly off.
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, it's not, and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: be careful.
Speaker 3: I thought it was joking, and then I gunned it
Speaker 3: and the bodykit fell off, so a big delay and
Speaker 3: had to stop.
Speaker 2: And then like you know, like put it all back together. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I remember, yeah.
Speaker 4: That's why that's why I had drive it, because you're broke.
Speaker 3: Probably broka Yeah, yeah, yeah, they Yeah, we broke a
Speaker 3: lot of cars. I remember when they sent us to
Speaker 3: irwin Dale. I got in the three point fifty and
Speaker 3: I slammed against the wall right away because I never
Speaker 3: I never, nobody taught me how to drift. I was
Speaker 3: just trying to just go for it. And I remember
Speaker 3: I slammed into the wall and I was panicking.
Speaker 1: I would have been so scared.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: Shoot, I'm gonna get fired, Like I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: pay for this.
Speaker 3: And then somebody came up to me and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, and he goes, eh, we got a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of them, don't worry.
Speaker 2: I was like, really, So I started going crazy in
Speaker 2: all of them. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you just got off of for Ari, you.
Speaker 5: Said, Yeah, in Italy with the Michael Man and Nagel
Speaker 5: was the coordinator, so he got to do this and
Speaker 5: he did an amazing job and assembled some great guys
Speaker 5: there over there in Italy, and I got to go
Speaker 5: there there too. It was a fun experience working with
Speaker 5: Adam Driver and the whole crew there were spectacular and
Speaker 5: see them doing their thing. Acting Patrick Dems it was
Speaker 5: super cool with me, by the way, He's a gearhead
Speaker 5: and awesome guy to work with.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 5: We were working with him and the other actress over
Speaker 5: there too to get them to do their own driving.
Speaker 4: So they got to drive.
Speaker 5: And he got to see me in my element when
Speaker 5: we were coaching and driving with them, and then he
Speaker 5: got to see me in the movie setting and he
Speaker 5: saw me being nervous and he was he was like
Speaker 5: turning to encourage me because he saw that, the friend Samuel.
Speaker 4: Because sitting there scale like my first line in my life.
Speaker 5: I have to speak here. I barely speak English. I'm
Speaker 5: in Sweden and now I to speak British English. But
Speaker 5: we'll see. It was fun ad on driver's BIC Tech
Speaker 5: with his playing and so on. To see them doing
Speaker 5: their thing, it was powerful. So yeah, and then basically
Speaker 5: focus on commercials and my wife's Stina doing the same.
Speaker 5: So she's doing great too, so fun to see her
Speaker 5: doing so well. I saw her skills when we started
Speaker 5: dating back two thousand and four, two thousand and five.
Speaker 5: She was mainly focus in my career in the beginning,
Speaker 5: and then she got to go to a lot of
Speaker 5: driving schools when I was coaching back then, and I
Speaker 5: saw her She had a natural talent too.
Speaker 1: She is an incredible driver. I was saying this before
Speaker 1: we started recording, and I want to share with everyone
Speaker 1: listening that she has been a big inspiration for me
Speaker 1: for my entire career, and I have a vivid memory
Speaker 1: of a video she had posted on her socials years
Speaker 1: ago for her doing figure eights. I think in a
Speaker 1: BMW in a parking lot. I don't know, if I
Speaker 1: was around, I think, oh, sorry, though, yeah, for a
Speaker 1: Natto commercial. I was like, Wow, that is the coolest
Speaker 1: thing I have seen a woman, not Dequals. In the world.
Speaker 1: There's incredible women. I don't want to, you know, leave
Speaker 1: anyone out, but that at the time for me, I
Speaker 1: was like wow that. I looked up to it and
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to try to do that.
Speaker 1: And that was a representation that I didn't have at
Speaker 1: the time to be like, you know, this beautiful girl
Speaker 1: is driving a car and out driving probably a lot
Speaker 1: of men out there too, like I want to I
Speaker 1: want to try that. I want to do that, And
Speaker 1: she was a big inspiration to me starting to slide
Speaker 1: cars around.
Speaker 5: First of all, it's cool, just you think it was
Speaker 5: Anito Tiger merge because we were just promoting them because
Speaker 5: they were hooking us with tires, so definitely it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I remember specifically that too.
Speaker 4: So manufacturers out there give people some free things. It works.
Speaker 5: You know, we promote you guys and you will sell
Speaker 5: more pars. But yeah, Stina did that in the BMW.
Speaker 5: This was way back when Facebook was more influence. I
Speaker 5: had more power, and this thing went viral. A lot
Speaker 5: of kids sitting there and just hammering on her, bash
Speaker 5: talking her, and I know it shouldn't affect you, but
Speaker 5: it did. But it did in a good way for
Speaker 5: me because I was like, you know what, all these
Speaker 5: criticals bashing on my wife saying, you know, she should
Speaker 5: go back to the kitchen and what is she doing?
Speaker 5: They did because I know they were all jealous, but
Speaker 5: it trigged me and made me inspired to take it
Speaker 5: to the next level. And that's the reason we got
Speaker 5: the Lamborghini Hurricount, because like, I got inspired. You know what,
Speaker 5: I'm going to shut them all off. I'm going to
Speaker 5: get a supercar.
Speaker 4: It's going to be a card.
Speaker 5: They haven't even been sitting in think it's going to
Speaker 5: be so cool, so they're going to be as quiet.
Speaker 5: And that's what I did with Stina. We got her account,
Speaker 5: got need the tires on board, the sponsor us to
Speaker 5: go do a video with Donut Media, we got to
Speaker 5: do with Lamborghin you per Beach and we took the
Speaker 5: car and drifted Lamborghini and you pur Pach Dealership around
Speaker 5: millions of dollars of the cars.
Speaker 4: And she did an amazing job.
Speaker 5: And that video took her into a whole other level too,
Speaker 5: and she got more respect than she got more commercials,
Speaker 5: and no one criticized it because she did such an
Speaker 5: amazing job in a supercar, which is really hard to drink. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they're not easy to handle with the engine sitting there.
Speaker 5: It's a handful, especially with millions of dollars around you
Speaker 5: because that you had to pay if you crash them. Anyway,
Speaker 5: that was a cool thing and it came out of
Speaker 5: that anger of naysayers. I'm going to show them wrong,
Speaker 5: and she did.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised to hear that she got roasted. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that that happened, but I mean, I still get
Speaker 1: it today. I almost didn't even YouTuber pursue a career
Speaker 1: in cars because of how terrible of a backlash I
Speaker 1: was getting of some of the worst things people could
Speaker 1: say to anyone, and you're reading them online, you're by yourself.
Speaker 1: You get in your head about it. And it's people
Speaker 1: who are just jealous at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: who like, well, I can't believe I'm not there doing that,
Speaker 1: so instead I'm just gonna hate on this person because
Speaker 1: I'm mad at myself.
Speaker 4: Exactly. There were just sex there was so respectful for her.
Speaker 1: Well good came out of it because for me, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to learn how to do a
Speaker 1: figure eight and like slide right into the camera.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 1: It's really cool.
Speaker 5: That's the best way to use that type of negativity
Speaker 5: is make it to something better and go back and
Speaker 5: show them wrong.
Speaker 1: What's the saying, No one doing more than you is
Speaker 1: going to talk shit on you or something like that,
Speaker 1: or you're never going to hear negativity from the people
Speaker 1: doing more than you. It's only people doing less.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she did something important. I mean she influenced
Speaker 3: people like Amelia.
Speaker 5: Now you are doing the same. So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 5: It's just going to be a good wave of you know,
Speaker 5: positivity for other women.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I hope only leave a good impact on
Speaker 1: this earth.
Speaker 2: You will. Thanks Sam.
Speaker 3: When you watch these films with cars and these you know,
Speaker 3: car stunts, do you feel like from when we shot
Speaker 3: Tokyo Drift to where it is now with all the
Speaker 3: CG and special effects.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's gotten better or worse in your opinion?
Speaker 5: So for me, it's being worse. But I understand that
Speaker 5: the new generation they're so use to CEGI and video
Speaker 5: game type of the experience. I haven't been playing many
Speaker 5: video games the last ever, really, so I see that
Speaker 5: they feel it's okay when cars are flying to the
Speaker 5: moon and everything and being so unrealistic.
Speaker 4: I still in an old school.
Speaker 5: I like when it's just real deal driving and it's
Speaker 5: actually done for real instead of CGI and faking everything.
Speaker 5: So for me it's tough to see. To be honest,
Speaker 5: I haven't even watched the last first Fast and Few Moose.
Speaker 5: I was in number nine myself, but I didn't see myself.
Speaker 2: Did you drive in that film? Did you get to
Speaker 2: do anything cool stunts or anything?
Speaker 5: Nothing? Spectatically? I was asked to come and do doubling
Speaker 5: four Vindez's brother. I believe it was himself in nine.
Speaker 5: When they're done in Thailand for a month or two
Speaker 5: down there, I was going to do the driving main driving.
Speaker 5: Spiro called me, which is you know, the second year
Speaker 5: director for Fast and you're amazing talent man. So it
Speaker 5: was an honor to have a phone call. But I
Speaker 5: turned it down because the time away was not attracted
Speaker 5: to me that time. I have three kids, a wife.
Speaker 5: I want to be home, and also we were going
Speaker 5: to We're going to Sweden every summer, so it's a
Speaker 5: tradition we want to do. And I was going to
Speaker 5: be in Thailand for one or two months and then
Speaker 5: to the country Georgia for another month. So it was
Speaker 5: it was too much commitment, so I turned it down.
Speaker 5: But I did that the NASCAR scene at d you did, yeah,
Speaker 5: when when he had got a flashback with his father.
Speaker 5: That's all I know because I didn't watching it myself.
Speaker 5: But we got to drive Nascars for two three days.
Speaker 5: It was fun, just going hard around there and get
Speaker 5: an experience a lot of seat time in Nascars.
Speaker 4: It was fun.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 3: That's the best part of the movie. By the way,
Speaker 3: I did see the film, and that was the best part.
Speaker 3: Maybe I have to watch it now, just watch that part.
Speaker 2: It's really hard. It's really good. It's really awesome.
Speaker 3: Okay, having a relationship and staying married in this business
Speaker 3: is hard because you have so much time away.
Speaker 2: You know, like, how do you balance that your family?
Speaker 3: You have three kids now, and you know, and I
Speaker 3: can see that you're super involved as a dad, and
Speaker 3: you have like a Hollywood family.
Speaker 2: It's like some I see pictures.
Speaker 4: Or a non Hollywood family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's a movie family exactly, family picture perfect.
Speaker 2: So what do you guys do to balance that?
Speaker 4: I mean, for me, basically, I never pursued the movie world.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't take on and go travel the world and
Speaker 5: do big movies because there's film mainly out of California,
Speaker 5: a state focused on doing cor commercials to make a
Speaker 5: living and being home more. That's the best recipe, I think. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so just trying to work here more. I take on
Speaker 5: two three weeks of something, maybe on the movie car
Speaker 5: chase scenes, because that's what I do. I do car
Speaker 5: chase more specific. I don't do big crashes. I have
Speaker 5: an old bit bless I don't want to wake it up.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's for the stunt man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll do the driving. So I'm being blessed to
Speaker 5: make a living doing that. It's a side note. When
Speaker 5: I was at Fast and FEWIORUS three, I met a
Speaker 5: lot of stuntmen there legends done all the historic movies,
Speaker 5: and I remember one of them. I forgot his name,
Speaker 5: but he said, well, if you're going to make in
Speaker 5: this industry, you need to be able to do everything
Speaker 5: right horses, fire fight scenes, everything. Otherwise it's not going
Speaker 5: to work.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: I said, thank you for the advice, and I was thinking, no,
Speaker 5: that's not me. I'm going to make it through with
Speaker 5: just driving cars because that's all I know I'm really
Speaker 5: good at and I don't want to fall from buildings
Speaker 5: because I'm afraid of heights. Yeah, type of thing. I
Speaker 5: just believe it's going to work, and and it did.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, why not be great at one
Speaker 1: thing instead of good at several?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think both works. But for me,
Speaker 5: it was about just folks and driving. That's all I
Speaker 5: want to do. I love driving anything. Just give me
Speaker 5: a vehicle. It's fun.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like the kids today are less into
Speaker 3: actually cars and like modifying cars from when you were
Speaker 3: growing up.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think so, there's so many other distractions
Speaker 5: now and people can uber see they don't need to
Speaker 5: have a license, So it sounds like I mean, also,
Speaker 5: you read up about it how percentage have gone down
Speaker 5: to sixteen year olds to get their driver's license. Like
Speaker 5: that was one of the biggest days in my life,
Speaker 5: the day I got my driver's license.
Speaker 4: I mean, I was so happy. So, I mean, it
Speaker 4: is what it is.
Speaker 5: I guess here in La we wish there were less
Speaker 5: cars on the roads, so the traffics. I guess, my
Speaker 5: biggod thing take the bus, so go together.
Speaker 2: Do you notice that with your friends, Amilia, in your generation.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to be in denial of it.
Speaker 1: Say no, everyone's stole in the cars. I think when
Speaker 1: I was living in Indiana, what we would do on
Speaker 1: the weekend was just work on cars, swap turbos, built engines.
Speaker 1: And as I've gotten older and especially out here, it's
Speaker 1: more everyone's stile in the cars, but it's more let's
Speaker 1: go driving the canyons, let's wrench on the cars.
Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like at least in LA there's
Speaker 3: like a massive explosion of JDM FURV. Like these kids
Speaker 3: are like all into the you know, the R thirty
Speaker 3: fours and thirty five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely appreciation there, but compared to just wrenching
Speaker 1: on cars from like twenty years ago, I wonder.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's a status symbol thing with these maybe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, late they also been, I mean starting to make
Speaker 5: more cowboy movies. Right, it's like a new trend with
Speaker 5: yellow Stone and everything is like coming back with horses
Speaker 5: and stuff. So changing in the movie world, coming back
Speaker 5: to some more western style old school movies and stuff too.
Speaker 3: So when you do your stunts, who handles all the
Speaker 3: safety expects and stuff?
Speaker 1: Is that you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So when we do car commercials, generally we're just one
Speaker 5: or two cars usually in car commercials, and we are
Speaker 5: the ones handling ourselves, just between us and the camera.
Speaker 5: Cord drive to be working with us such whoever got
Speaker 5: hired by the director, he's kind of more in charge,
Speaker 5: and he maybe brings in a couple more drivers for
Speaker 5: the other cars, and together we just discussed the shoot
Speaker 5: and we get it done and move on.
Speaker 3: You know, the stunt performers are the most underappreciated people
Speaker 3: on set. A lot of the times I think about
Speaker 3: it and I go, you know, how many people on
Speaker 3: the movie set actually risk their lives to come to work,
Speaker 3: And it's the stunt folks that actually are in that position.
Speaker 2: I mean, the actors, we don't have anything complain about them.
Speaker 3: There are people, you know, bringing us water and holding
Speaker 3: an umbrella, like so you know, the sun doesn't hit you.
Speaker 1: Like we're have a heated trailer and a TV and
Speaker 1: a couch and.
Speaker 3: So spoiled, you know, and you know, so I just
Speaker 3: want to say thank you Sam for everything you do,
Speaker 3: because you know, a lot of people give me credit
Speaker 3: for these movies and they're like, oh, you're so cool
Speaker 3: and you're like an amazing.
Speaker 2: Driver, and I tell them and I'm very like up front,
Speaker 2: I go, that's not me.
Speaker 3: I'm not the one doing that. It's this guy from Sweden,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean it's all hilarious. Look what when
Speaker 3: he's in the costume, he's in my costume and he.
Speaker 2: Has a wig on.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys took a photo together.
Speaker 2: We have photos, I know I have. I have them somewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeh's fine. The Yeah, it would be fun to see.
Speaker 4: I think I small ones. But yeah. No, there's no
Speaker 4: Oscar at all for any of the stunt cred he
Speaker 4: or anything.
Speaker 1: You know, I haven't thought about that. Do they do
Speaker 1: stunt awards of any kind?
Speaker 5: We have our own, but it's sponsored by Red Bull
Speaker 5: just for the stunt community itself. What's that called Taurus? Yeah,
Speaker 5: the Taurus that makes Taurus world stunt to words, that.
Speaker 3: Makes sense and it should be televised and you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's kind of like Hollywood's dirty secret that you know,
Speaker 3: these men and women risk their lives to make all
Speaker 3: the actors look good, and you know what doesn't want
Speaker 3: to acknowledge it.
Speaker 1: Do you have advice for people who want to get
Speaker 1: into stunts or specifically driving, if they want to build
Speaker 1: their career into the space.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I get I get that question sent to
Speaker 5: me a lot on you know, social media platform. So
Speaker 5: many people reach out to me and ask him because
Speaker 5: you know, of course it's a dream job for many
Speaker 5: and it's so hard because it's like there's no specific
Speaker 5: way to come in. But I usually tell them, got
Speaker 5: to move where the business is to start, like I did.
Speaker 5: You can't sit in some little town in Oklahoma and
Speaker 5: hoping to be a stunt driver or something. You got
Speaker 5: to go where it happens. I would say Los Angeles
Speaker 5: as a good spot. Maybe actually Georgia right now, Atlanta,
Speaker 5: Georgia has a lot of TV shows and then just
Speaker 5: start networking. You have to build up some type of
Speaker 5: restume on yourself, which means you need to spend some
Speaker 5: money and get your own car and start showing how
Speaker 5: eager you are and do driving and meet other people
Speaker 5: and hopefully meet someone that maybe get you in it says,
Speaker 5: as a backup driver or something, and just keep hustling.
Speaker 4: And there's no guarantee. It could take many years.
Speaker 5: It's so much responsibility because we're in big vehicles to
Speaker 5: cause so much damage if you make a mistake, causing
Speaker 5: lives and equipment. So I mean, I basically tell people
Speaker 5: it's easy to become an actor. There's more actor jobs
Speaker 5: than stunt work almost because there's a lot of different
Speaker 5: shows and acting jobs, but stunt drivers a smaller community.
Speaker 5: It's tough, but if you really believe we are the best,
Speaker 5: the best and can succeed, just keep trying.
Speaker 4: Let work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also, you know, I can add to that
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, people that I've met, you
Speaker 3: know in the stunt community that you know, they fizzle
Speaker 3: out pretty quickly because they might have talent, you know,
Speaker 3: and they have the ability. But the thing that sets
Speaker 3: someone like Samuel Laparte is that when he comes to set,
Speaker 3: there is this wonderful energy about him. You know, he
Speaker 3: says hello and everybody, there's no ego. You know, he's
Speaker 3: really pleasant to be around. That's why, you know, after
Speaker 3: all of these years, it's like, you know, I'd love
Speaker 3: being around sam and you can only speak highly of him.
Speaker 3: And that's something that I think a lot of people forget,
Speaker 3: is that you can have talent, but your personality and
Speaker 3: your enthusiasm and your passion for what you do and
Speaker 3: the energy that you know you put out there and
Speaker 3: you know, being a collaborator.
Speaker 2: You know, he's just fantastic.
Speaker 3: There are you know, some dudes that show up and
Speaker 3: they have this attitude and this ego and I'm too
Speaker 3: cool for school and stuff, and you know, after a
Speaker 3: couple of times, you don't want to be around those people.
Speaker 3: So you know it's like it's a relationship is this
Speaker 3: and you know, and you know everybody loves Samuel, you know,
Speaker 3: so that's something that you know, you know, for the
Speaker 3: listeners out there, it's like work on your craft, but
Speaker 3: then also work on yourself, like you know, be a
Speaker 3: cool person to be around, being kind, to be kind,
Speaker 3: be a good mood dude, being nothing.
Speaker 1: To be nice to people and everyone's fighting a battle
Speaker 1: you know nothing about.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 5: I mean everybody is important on the on the commercial
Speaker 5: movie that you know, the ones cleaning or fixing or feeding.
Speaker 4: I mean it's a team, so you have to respect everybody.
Speaker 5: And again that little worker doing something over there, he
Speaker 5: might be the next producer.
Speaker 4: So you never know. We all come from nowhere most
Speaker 4: and then we get somewhere because we're going to keep
Speaker 4: climbing the ladder, So respect and treat everybody, saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone has to start somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well thanks Sam, thanks for your time, thanks
Speaker 2: for your words.
Speaker 4: You know you guys too. Yeah, still come up with
Speaker 4: some more fun stuff.
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, we'll make some cool stuff yeah before
Speaker 3: we leave this earth.
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much for coming on, having
Speaker 2: you guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you all right.
Speaker 3: M