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Speaker 1: Wow, what is Welcome to another edition of the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Show. It's me your man, MG, Marcus Grant,

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Speaker 1: and I am fully vaccinated. I'm excited about that. We're

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Speaker 1: getting hopefully a little bit closer to getting back to

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Speaker 1: I would say normal and these or normal in air

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Speaker 1: quotes here, we're getting back to our our before times

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Speaker 1: life something like that. Anyway, a fun show for you,

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Speaker 1: as we normally try to do here. But the one

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Speaker 1: that I'm very very excited about a chance to talk

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Speaker 1: to a guy who has maybe one of the most

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Speaker 1: unique careers I think I have encountered in the fantasy space.

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Speaker 1: And if you have played fantasy football, uh, you know

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Speaker 1: Beyonce just a casual level for any amount of time.

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Speaker 1: It is a name you probably have encountered, and you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: it is the one and only Scott Fish Scott. You know,

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Speaker 1: we have interacted on social media for years now. I

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Speaker 1: believe this is the first time we've ever spoken. You know,

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Speaker 1: I want to say face to face, but you know,

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Speaker 1: digitally face to face. I appreciate you coming on the show, man.

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Speaker 1: How are things. I'm good, I'm good, You're right. I

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Speaker 1: think this is the very first time we've been on

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Speaker 1: the same show to go. I've done NFL Fantasy before,

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Speaker 1: but I can't if you are on that show. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I was no. Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's good, good,

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Speaker 1: good man. I'm so happy to have you here. We are.

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Speaker 1: We're sort of twinning right now. I was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have Scott Fish on, so I'm gonna break out

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Speaker 1: my my SFB shirt from last year, eagerly awaiting the

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Speaker 1: new shirts for for one to come out so I

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Speaker 1: can snag one of those. But I decided to pull

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Speaker 1: mine out and you are wearing the exact same shirts,

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Speaker 1: so that makes me feel pretty pretty good. So um,

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Speaker 1: but I just wanted I kinda to start with just

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Speaker 1: sort of about you, because you know, you are one

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Speaker 1: of the more recognizable names in this industry. You've been

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Speaker 1: doing this for you've been doing this longer than than

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Speaker 1: I've been doing is professionally fantasy football wise. Um, but

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Speaker 1: you you know, like a lot of people in this industry,

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Speaker 1: working for for PepsiCo and kind of doing fantasy stuff

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Speaker 1: you listed there. I worked for Pepsi for fourteen years

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Speaker 1: or so and my back started to give out. It

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Speaker 1: or five years ago I got a full time offer

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Speaker 1: Matt Harman former stronghold guy right there. Uh, they had

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Speaker 1: and they pretty much talked me into it. They said

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Speaker 1: it a day since. I mean, it obviously has been great,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, obviously this was a hobby for

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Speaker 1: You've sort of started though down the path of I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was fashionable. I mean, people were just sort of

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Speaker 1: What wasn't about debbie leagues that sort of attracted you

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Speaker 1: analysts because I've I've really, I've really jumped around in

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Speaker 1: But basically I was looking for a type of league

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of how my name started circulating in

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Speaker 1: fun to me to watch these players grow and eventually

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Speaker 1: added benefit to dynasty leagues. Did you ever think that

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Speaker 1: that that part of it would take off? Because it's

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Speaker 1: Like I'll preface it with a couple of rhetorical questions here,

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Speaker 1: it feels like it it should have become a big thing,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad it's becoming more and more a big thing.

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Speaker 1: But like mid two thousand, Scott sitting doing his rankings

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Speaker 1: he would be pretty surprised. But this was beautiful about this,

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Speaker 1: right man. There's so many ways to play fantasy we

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Speaker 1: we don't we don't league shame, eight team, ten teams,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not the only one. But I referred

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Speaker 1: So um. So just that's just to say that, don't

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Speaker 1: Uh this is year eleven, um, But I know it

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Speaker 1: but now it has become a huge, huge deal. At

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Speaker 1: peppered with commissioner questions and a lot of them were

429
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Speaker 1: similar questions that we feel like we've answered many times before. UM.

430
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Speaker 1: So we we realized with all these questions and these

431
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Speaker 1: stories and these you know, they they shoot out their

432
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 1: interesting league ideas at us too, because they were were

433
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: kind of known for innovative creative leagues out there. So

434
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Speaker 1: we decided to start a start our podcast, Commission Impossible,

435
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: to help other commissioners out with their you know, they're

436
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: tricky issues. Um also for league members to like here

437
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 1: interesting settings that maybe they want to bring to their league.

438
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Speaker 1: We discussed bad commission stories, creative league ideas. I mentioned,

439
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Speaker 1: uh we go o for listener questions. But the coolest

440
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Speaker 1: thing I think about about Commission Impossible is it's evergreen

441
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Speaker 1: and you don't see that in the fantasy industry. Like

442
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to episode four and

443
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,239
Speaker 1: it's got stuff that's probably relevant still today. People tell

444
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Speaker 1: us all the time they go back and they listen

445
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Speaker 1: to all our episodes after they find us because they're

446
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Speaker 1: only twenty to thirty minutes apiece. And um, it's I

447
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,719
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think it was just something that

448
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: was not out there, kind of like Debby you kind

449
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Speaker 1: of like whatever, It's just something that was not I

450
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Speaker 1: didn't see any comming shier podcasts out there. Commissioners said

451
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: trick podcast. It's a small market, but hey, it's a

452
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Speaker 1: it's a very interesting show. It's a small market, but

453
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Speaker 1: it is I mean in terms of fantasy sports, it

454
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Speaker 1: is an important market. Um. And I feel like it

455
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: is maybe the most thankless job when it comes when

456
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Speaker 1: it comes to fantasy sports. Um, I mean, how many

457
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Speaker 1: leagues have you been the commissioner of? Have you? Can

458
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Speaker 1: you even keep count at this point? So I run

459
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Speaker 1: a commissioner service that currently has over a thousand leagues

460
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Speaker 1: that I commissioner every year that I commission so that

461
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Speaker 1: I'm commissioner of every year. I would say if you

462
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Speaker 1: count each, I don't know thousands, it's thousands upon thousands

463
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Speaker 1: of leagues I've commissioned. In This upcoming year will be

464
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Speaker 1: my thirtieth year playing fantasy football. So uh yeah, thousands

465
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Speaker 1: is what I'll go with. You are like the Pete

466
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Speaker 1: Rosel of fantasy football. Right, it's a long time. Yeah,

467
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. You know, like kids look it up

468
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: like there was they were, like there were commissioners before

469
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Speaker 1: Roger Goodell, believe it or not. So it was a

470
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Speaker 1: thing that happened. Um, you talk about those some of

471
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Speaker 1: the different formats and ideas and tweets of the game

472
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Speaker 1: and how we slice and dice it. What are some

473
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Speaker 1: of the wildest ones you you can remember being a

474
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Speaker 1: part of. Oh man, oh this is this is I

475
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Speaker 1: love this. We have so many we talked about on

476
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Speaker 1: that show. We talked about so many interesting league ideas.

477
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Speaker 1: In Ryan and I have done some really really cool ones.

478
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Speaker 1: Last year I was in one with Ryan that Um,

479
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Speaker 1: it was much like a guillotine league, which is where

480
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Speaker 1: the bottom team is axed at the end of each week,

481
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Speaker 1: the bottom scoring team and his players go to the

482
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Speaker 1: waiver wire. So that happened. But also it was like

483
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Speaker 1: a vampire or pirate league where you got to you

484
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Speaker 1: had had to add matchup and you also stole an

485
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Speaker 1: appointments player. So like if you're playing against the se

486
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Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley guy, um the you know or whatever player

487
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: you could steal him from him, any player, his best player,

488
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Speaker 1: you get to steal that, and then you draft the

489
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Speaker 1: players that have been caught each tweak. That was. That

490
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Speaker 1: was pretty crazy and pretty fun. I've also been in

491
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Speaker 1: the league that was like a board game, like a

492
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Speaker 1: D and D game, Dungeons and Dragons game, where you

493
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Speaker 1: had goals you had to accomplish each week, where your

494
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: fantasy points would like add up together and you try

495
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Speaker 1: to take down a monster and then you'd earn gold

496
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Speaker 1: or whatever, and you you have hit points. Like it

497
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Speaker 1: combined fantasy with board games, which was quite interesting. And

498
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Speaker 1: then there's like superpower leagues where you can freeze the

499
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Speaker 1: guy's score mid game, or you can you have some

500
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Speaker 1: kind of accelerator that doubles your quarterback score whatever. Like

501
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Speaker 1: in these these superpowers are tradeable assets, you know, Like

502
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Speaker 1: there's so many. The creativity is endless in our game,

503
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Speaker 1: and I've I've played in a lot of them. I

504
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: love hearing about new ones too. That that is amazing.

505
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Speaker 1: I'm like, especially you talk about the board games, because

506
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Speaker 1: for a long time I've referred to fantasy sports as

507
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: dungeons and dragons for sports nerds. Um, so you you

508
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 1: sort of combined those. Which do you think you talk

509
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Speaker 1: about Vinn diagrams. I think the Vinn diagram of like

510
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Speaker 1: people who love fantasy sports and people who you know,

511
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Speaker 1: play like RPGs and stuff like that feel like it's

512
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Speaker 1: a bigger overlap. Then maybe we want to see that.

513
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Speaker 1: I think we're all We're all nerds in our own

514
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Speaker 1: special way. Um, just our areas of nerd a treat

515
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: tend to be a little bit different. All Um. Obviously,

516
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Speaker 1: every year there are new leagues, there are new people

517
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Speaker 1: who decide they want to be commissioners. What advice would

518
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Speaker 1: you give to somebody who is, you know, thinking about

519
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Speaker 1: or is becoming a first time commissioner? Yeah, so I

520
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Speaker 1: guess I have about I have two or three that

521
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Speaker 1: I usually give to first time commissioners. Is the first

522
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Speaker 1: one is if you haven't started the league yet, either

523
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Speaker 1: create the league you want with the settings you want,

524
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Speaker 1: then go find the owners that that want to play

525
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Speaker 1: in that style. So you've created what you want, and

526
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Speaker 1: then you go find the owners or find a group

527
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Speaker 1: you want to play with, and then decide the rules together.

528
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Speaker 1: The most issues Ryan and I have heard from emailers

529
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Speaker 1: is when they try to split the metal. They create

530
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Speaker 1: a league they want, but then they get the owners

531
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Speaker 1: and then they start changing the rules. Or you get

532
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Speaker 1: a group together and you want to either run one

533
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Speaker 1: running it, but they wanted to be more of a

534
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Speaker 1: you know, like a democracy for how to create the league.

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00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 1: That's where we find the issues. But if you start

536
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: it with the settings you want and just find owners

537
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: that want to play in that league, it seems to

538
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: work out well. Vice versa. If you find eleven other

539
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: people or whatever, you discuss the league rules, make it together,

540
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: those seem to work out the best. And the second

541
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Speaker 1: tip I have is also always have the best interest clause,

542
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: like the last rule of your things should be should circumstances, issues,

543
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: or problems arise for which like a remedy is not

544
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: stated in the rules, the commissioner reserves the right to

545
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Speaker 1: take whatever actions he deems necessary in the best interest

546
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Speaker 1: of the league, and that will close loopholes in case

547
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Speaker 1: someone finds a little loophole that that could hurt the league,

548
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: that can help close those loopholes when it happens, and

549
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: and commissioners should always look to close loopholes, not to

550
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Speaker 1: exploit them, UM make decisions they are best for the league,

551
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: not what's in the best interests of your team, etcetera, etcetera.

552
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Speaker 1: That I mean, I feel like that it all makes sense.

553
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Speaker 1: And I love the point about you know, either setting

554
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: setting your settings the way you want them or or

555
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: having to be a democracy and not in between. Like

556
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: the thought that comes to mind is like, it's like

557
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: trying to order a pizza right with ten people. Like,

558
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: if you're trying to order pizzas with ten people, either

559
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen is that everybody is essentially gonna get

560
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: their own pizza or you're going to get one pizza

561
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: that like nobody really likes because you have to put

562
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: everything on there to try to satisfy all these people.

563
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: Uh and in the end, you know, you're gonna get

564
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: like pineapple and anchovies and black olives and it's gonna

565
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: be disgusting and nobody's gonna want to eat the pizza.

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Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I think I think that's pretty cool. Um,

567
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: I can't have you on here and not talk at

568
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: least something about actual fantasy football beyond the nuts and bolts,

569
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: and so I you know, I kind of want to

570
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: pick your brain in terms of, uh, you know, your

571
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: background obviously is is devy and that sort of thing,

572
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: and looking at prospects and and and all that. When

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Speaker 1: you are, you know, looking at a group of incoming rookies,

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Speaker 1: for instance, what what is important to you in terms

575
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: of of who, uh you're going to maybe target when

576
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: you're drafting, and and and that sort of stuff. Yeah,

577
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: So I feel like this has changed for me over

578
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: the years. Back in the day, I used to watch

579
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: a ton of players and I would look for skills

580
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: that I thought could translate in the NFL, and I

581
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: still do to degree, but as I've gotten busier, I

582
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: found myself depending more on the analysis of some of

583
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: the great minds and the industry, like you had Emery

584
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: on Um, like Matt Waldman and stuff. And it puts

585
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: me in a spot where I can take what they've

586
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: look at what they've done, and then the smaller amount

587
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: of watching I do, I can I can you know,

588
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: see if I agree or not, and and it helps

589
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: me a little bit with time crunching. I think one

590
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: thing I found that I put more emphasis on now

591
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: than I did in the past, and I'm I feel

592
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: like I've become a better player for it is uh

593
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: taking a better look at at the draft capital of

594
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: where players are drafted, because because back in the day,

595
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: when I watched tons and tons of like from we're

596
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: talking grainy high school video yeo, of people coming out

597
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: of high school throughout college, I developed these huge biases

598
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: for players like and no matter if they were drafting

599
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth round, I'm like, I don't care.

600
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: I've loved him for three years, you know. And now

601
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get to the point where draft capital

602
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: matters a whole lot more for me, because that does

603
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: translate to success, but it also really really translates to

604
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: opportunity in the NFL. And that's something that I didn't

605
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: do before and I do more now, and I'm I'm

606
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: I feel like I've I've been better for it. And

607
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: in Dynasty, I've become much more of a win now

608
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: player nowadays. And everybody says talent overlanding spot, talent overlanding spot.

609
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: It's it is true to a degree, but that early

610
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: landing spot does matter a little. That's why when people

611
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: when the NFL Draft happens, people's rankings change. The rookie

612
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: rankings change right after, and it's because of that draft

613
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: capital and to a lesser degree that Landing spot. Um,

614
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't factor it quite as much as as the

615
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: draft capital or what I've watched on them, And I

616
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: do take it into account because even though Landing's back

617
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: spot can turn on a dime, it still does matter

618
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, like a look at Diamy Brown,

619
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Speaker 1: Like I really like Deamy Brown because he's going to

620
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: be with a d G A F type of throwers.

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00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: Patrick's potentially can be the starting deep ball contested catch

622
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: guy for him. I like that a lot more than

623
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: I possibly did before, you know, and I completely agree.

624
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: And there are so many things you said there that

625
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: immediately just like it. It warmed my heart. I mean,

626
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, first first off, the the the idea of

627
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: sort of uh kind of leaning on the expertise and

628
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: knowledge of others, because I say this as the father

629
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: of a two year old son, like I don't have

630
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: the time to sit and watch you know, as much

631
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: tape as I have in the past. So it is

632
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: about sort of kind of maximizing and using an economy

633
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: of times. And so maybe you read other people's evaluations

634
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: and you do your own. You do a little bit

635
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: of research to figure out how much you agree or disagree. Um,

636
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't. I don't have the time to

637
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: go back and watch you know, a hundred prospects anymore,

638
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: just because you know, that's that's sort of life. But

639
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: the other part of it that that I really sort

640
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: of gravitate toward is the idea of um, you know,

641
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: landing spots, draft capital over over town. We all, we

642
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: all love talent. We all want to find that guy

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Speaker 1: that we think can be that diamond in the rough. UM.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I I see it with you know,

645
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Speaker 1: you see guys who have like a little bit of

646
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: a hive right behind them. I made the jumps to mind.

647
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: I think was Tyler Johnson right in in Tampa, UM.

648
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: And people love him, and he's a super talented guy.

649
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't get on the field very often because they've

650
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Speaker 1: got a lot of really talented players ahead of him.

651
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: I mean, so he may make one spectacular catch in

652
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Speaker 1: a game and and his hive on Twitter kind of

653
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: lights up and talks about how he's gonna be a

654
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: big thing. And maybe he will, but right now he's

655
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: still continue with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, Antonio Brown

656
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: and Rob Gronkowski and all the talent in the world

657
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily help you. Um, if you're not getting on

658
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: the field and getting those opportunities. And I think that's

659
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: a thing that's sometimes I think you're right. I think

660
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: when you when you watch guys and you you make

661
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: notes and you study, um, you sort of forget about

662
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: that part because like, man, I watched this dude play

663
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: through an entire you know, Max season, and he was

664
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Speaker 1: running people over and you know, I think he can

665
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: be great. Um, if his coaching staff doesn't give him

666
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: the opportunity, it's just it's just never really gonna happen. Um.

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00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: You mentioned Dammy Brown, who's a guy I think has

668
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: sleeper potential this year, and then Washington offense. Um, anybody

669
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Speaker 1: else that that you saw or paid attention to that

670
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: really has caught your eye this year? Yeah, Well, you

671
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: know this isn't it's not quite as deep. But I

672
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: I didn't hate the Bateman spot as much as like

673
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: he was my wide receiver too before the draft, right, Like,

674
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: and maybe it's partially because I'm a go for Pan fan,

675
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: but I feel like he does everything well. I know,

676
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: he ran like a four or three nine. It doesn't

677
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: feel like he's got that top end speed, but you know,

678
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: I guess it is. There be such a good, great

679
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: contested catch. Guy feels like he does everything well. And

680
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson through three six touchdowns just two years ago. Yeah,

681
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: like like, I don't think it's the worst spot in

682
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: the world, but I'm loving when I can get him

683
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: at the end of the first I like taking Terris Marshall,

684
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean eight plus percent from the slot. He can

685
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: jump right into that. Curtis Uh, Samuel Rollo, he's back

686
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: with Joe Brady, And I love when a college coach

687
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: is like, you know, I know this guy, I want

688
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: him and bring him in right like that. It feels

689
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Speaker 1: like there's a confidence there. And Robbie Robbie Anderson might

690
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: be gone next year. You know, Terence is a guy

691
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: that can move outside to UM. I like that. I

692
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: like guys like Anthony Schwartz, you know, maybe maybe a

693
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: little more long term, little speedy guy there over in Cleveland,

694
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Speaker 1: Josh Palmer. You know, it's hard, it's hard to ignore

695
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: the lack of production in college, but it's also hard

696
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: to doing nore that Mike Williams might leave after this year,

697
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: and he would grow up with Justin Herbert over there. So, um,

698
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Speaker 1: I tend to like we're talking about like Schwartz and Palmer,

699
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Speaker 1: like fourth round darth Row right like, and this is

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Speaker 1: a draft where after about two, after about a round

701
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Speaker 1: and a half, maybe the end of the second, you're like, okay, whatever,

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00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: let's try to figure this out, right, So fourth fourth

703
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: rounders with some potential like that, those are those are

704
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: guys that you know I've been taking shots at. It's

705
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: funny too. It's when you talk about getting past the

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Speaker 1: first maybe the first couple of rounds of you know,

707
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: a rookie draft or whatever. That's when I feel like

708
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: that's when I get my Google on the most right.

709
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: It's like I'll see a list of guys and then

710
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: maybe you know three or four guys that I'm sort

711
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: of trying to figure out which. By the way, thank

712
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: goodness for slow drafts in the rookie drafts man, because

713
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: if you if you have to put me on a clock,

714
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: it would be awful. But um, it is it's where

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Speaker 1: you sort of kind of get your Google on and

716
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: you try to figure out, you know, from from his

717
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: his draft prospects and pro comparisons to the beat reporters

718
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: checking out what what you know a guy could be

719
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: after he's drafted. I think that is where That's where

720
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun to try to figure out,

721
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, will you know what will Josh Palmer be? Um,

722
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: you know a few years from now. You are the

723
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Speaker 1: second person in the last couple of weeks to come

724
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: on this show mentioned Anthony Schwartz. Imrie Hunt loved him

725
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: as well, So like that, you know, like those sort

726
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: of things I think are worth paying attention to. It it

727
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: it sort of gets you, you know, get you in tune.

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00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: I will also say that you have you might be

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00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: sort of getting me a little bit more excited about

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00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: Rashade Bateman and I love I like him a lot

731
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: as a player. I just worry that his opportunities are

732
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: sort of capped in Baltimore just because of what their

733
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: offense is, um like ten years straight now exactly. So

734
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: like I feel like my my concerns about him aren't

735
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: about him necessarily, It's just about you know, how the

736
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: offense sort of operates around him. Um. But I'm also

737
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: willing to buy into the fact that the Ravens say

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00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: they want to throw the ball more, which is like

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00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: the third or fourth year running they've said that. Um,

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00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: And look, I'm gullible enough to sort of like buy

741
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: back in again and maybe that will that will swing

742
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: me to getting Rashade Bateman in a couple of spots. Um.

743
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: All right, So before I let you go, I know

744
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: that there are a list of foods as you mentioned,

745
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: that you just will not eat. So I have to ask,

746
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: what would you rather do playing an all kicker fantasy

747
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: league or eating jar of pickles? This this isn't even

748
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: a question for me. I would rather only play in

749
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: all kicker leagues for the rest of my life than

750
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: eat a jar piss pickles. I've been offered five figures

751
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: pooled together from a bunch of people to eat one,

752
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: and I won't. And it's the problem is like, and

753
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: I'm not just fantasy I'm I'm a fantasy analyst. I'm

754
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: not flushed with millions over here. Like I don't think

755
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm like Mr Richie rich Tade not taking that type

756
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: of money. It's here's the thing. It's they actually make

757
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: me gag and want to throw up. Like imagine like

758
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: you're a normal person listening drinking like curdled milk or

759
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: something like gall like that's what it's like for me.

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00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: Like I actually start to gag and almost throw up,

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00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: and I just can't. I can't do it. So a

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00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: jar of pickles, I just I can't do it problems

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00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: to people who love them, I mean, I don't. I

764
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: don't leak shame. I play with the said as you love.

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00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't fruit tae either. You know you love what

766
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: you love. I'm I just can't eat a pickle. I

767
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: can't do well. I'm sort of I mean, I think

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00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: for five figures, I think I might try to choke

769
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: one down, but I've just given left to my own devices.

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00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: I would play in an all kicker league over being

771
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: a jar pickles. I'm with you on that. Also, I'm

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00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: one of those people who are like, I'm okay with

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00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: having kickers in the fantasy game. I know that the

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00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: you know, I know that. I feel like sometimes I'm

775
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: swimming upstream on that is gonna allow you to flex

776
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: him this year, So I see that. I'm super excited

777
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: about that. You know, I'll see what everybody else, what

778
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: my opponents are doing, and I don't help me decide

779
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: whether or not it's going to be a smart decision

780
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: for me, um, but I'm okay with with kickers in

781
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: the fantasy game. I also say that I don't like

782
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: things that are pickled. For the most part, I don't.

783
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't like pickles. I don't like sauer Kraut, I

784
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: don't like kim chi. Pickled ginger is probably the only

785
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: one that I can eat. I don't think I've ever

786
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: had that. It's weird. It's probably because pickles in then him,

787
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: and that's why I didn't order to get whatever. I

788
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: totally get it. I absolutely get it. Um, Scott, dude,

789
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate this conversation. I have enjoyed this conversation. Um.

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Speaker 1: For people who don't know, and I think for a

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Speaker 1: lot of folks who listen to this podcast, they probably

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Speaker 1: already know where to find you. But for those that don't,

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Speaker 1: where where can they find what you're doing? Man? Uh.

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Speaker 1: Safe Lea's Fantasy dot Com is where you can join

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Speaker 1: I do. Commission Impossible is is the podcast with Ryan McDowell.

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Speaker 1: to subscribe to that. Um. The safe Leagues were a

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Speaker 1: legal fantasy contest operator license and registered in more states

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Speaker 1: than anyone. Uh, Scott fish bowl dot com. Sign up.

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Speaker 1: If you don't sign up, I can't get you in.

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Speaker 1: You can't play with you can't play with Marcus in

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Speaker 1: that league, if you or any of those celebrities. If

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Speaker 1: you don't sign up, Uh, Scott fish Twitter, that's where

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Speaker 1: you can find just about anything I'm doing out there.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful Again, do I appreciate I appreciate all the work

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Speaker 1: you have done. Uh. And like I said, you have

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00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: had such a unique career. I have enjoyed kind of

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00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: following it, you know, for as long as I have,

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00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: and kind of enjoying seeing where it may go in

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Speaker 1: the future. Um. Yeah, man, any any party shots before

812
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: we get out of here? Uh No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I think I got everything down. I should say that

814
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: that that five figures it was it wasn't directly to me.

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Speaker 1: It was it was we will pull up the money

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00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: to go to charity, and and that's that almost made

817
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: me consider it. But I didn't do it. Hey man,

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00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, a man's got to those limitations. I

819
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: certainly understand. It's gott be well man. We will hopefully

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Speaker 1: catch up with you sometime soon. Thanks for having me

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Speaker 1: all right man, and that for us. That is it.

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Speaker 1: We are done. We appreciate you hanging out with the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football show, you know the drill. Tell too

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