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Speaker 1: Welcome to the All In n y G Podcast. Finish Finish,

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Speaker 1: a special, limited run, eight episode series celebrating the tenth

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Speaker 1: anniversary of the franchise and sports Super Bowl champions Gates

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Speaker 1: over super Bowl, presented by p NC Private Bank, the

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Speaker 1: official wealth management partner of New York Giants. Wait, well,

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Speaker 1: not a Giant tunnel podcast special, Yo, This is Justin

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Speaker 1: Tuck and I am here with the guy to six

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Speaker 1: enter a role, and this is the All In Podcast,

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Speaker 1: and we're celebrating ten years that thing right there, super

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Speaker 1: Bowl for ten years? Does that mean that we're old now? Oh,

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Speaker 1: we're definitely because I've always like had this, like, um,

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Speaker 1: I thought in my head that like if the Giant said,

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Speaker 1: like Justin, we're gonna be like, you know, ten million

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Speaker 1: to come out and like play third down, I can

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Speaker 1: still do it. I don't think I. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I could do it. I want to keep that facade

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Speaker 1: alive though my left alone time ago. I mean like

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Speaker 1: ten years, right, look like we can play though. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's the point. I look like we can getting

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Speaker 1: can fool some people. Listen, man, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I can still do it though. No, But on

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Speaker 1: a serious note, right, we're here to kind of reminisce

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Speaker 1: on like that season. Like I think with the legacy

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Speaker 1: of the New York Giants have always been has been

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Speaker 1: about the defense. Right. If you think about the names

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Speaker 1: that came before us, right, the l t S, the Carsons,

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Speaker 1: those names. We that's that was kind of like our

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Speaker 1: first conversation about, you know, leading this defense and getting

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Speaker 1: us back to that promised land. I was kind of

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Speaker 1: like the captain on defense that had been here and

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Speaker 1: had grew up in the Giants way and trail. Obviously

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Speaker 1: it came from you know, another team other ways had

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Speaker 1: his he's a doing things which had made him uber successful. Right.

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Speaker 1: Well for me, I think, you know, just speaking on

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Speaker 1: on what you were talking about as far as the

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Speaker 1: leadership and the captain role. Um, we had huge responsibilities, um,

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Speaker 1: and you we're raised in the in the Giants uniform.

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Speaker 1: I came from Arizona coming to New York. That was

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Speaker 1: a that was a totally different change of place for me.

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Speaker 1: And we lead in different roles. You know, you were

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Speaker 1: more quiet in your approach I was more a lout

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Speaker 1: of my approach, but we still got the same things done.

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Speaker 1: You knew what you needed from your guys. I knew

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Speaker 1: what I needed from mine, and collectively, you know, we

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Speaker 1: we we were formed. We formed a pretty a pretty

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Speaker 1: damn good unit. So yeah, let's let's let's get into

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Speaker 1: like the season. And like obviously we started off really

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Speaker 1: not mistaken, right, we get out to a fast start,

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Speaker 1: um and in Giants fashion, for some reason, we always

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Speaker 1: hit these roller coasters, right, Just what do you remember

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Speaker 1: about you know, obviously the start of season and the

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Speaker 1: excitement around it. But like again, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: we found a way to kind of hit some some

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Speaker 1: for in a row. I don't remember in the order,

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Speaker 1: but like, you know, San Francisco, we should have won

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Speaker 1: had them on the ropes, you know, obviously Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. We had a really good game plan, but

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Speaker 1: it didn't matter what we did. They just was a

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Speaker 1: was a Philly? I think we lost that. That was

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Speaker 1: a part of the four in a row and for

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Speaker 1: four weeks, Man, we didn't pull the right cards right

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Speaker 1: at that moment. The locker room was clashing, right, we were.

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Speaker 1: We were all upset each other, right, And and like

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Speaker 1: we said, in good times, for me and Trail had

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Speaker 1: and in bad times we had those conversations. And like

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Speaker 1: It was like, all right, listen, we're not seeing out

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Speaker 1: But for some reason another like it was never a

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Speaker 1: never happened. We were too tight for that. And more important,

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Speaker 1: we had too much respect for one another before that

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Speaker 1: ever get to that point listening if it ain't working

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Speaker 1: believe you and that's something that we all knew. And

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Speaker 1: then we had other guys too, you know, like the

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Speaker 1: Deon Grands. He played a huge role. Man like he

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Speaker 1: he he would never get enough credit for the role

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Speaker 1: You know, you had guys like o C. We had

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Speaker 1: It was a lot like you, you know, Webb, it

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Speaker 1: but that whisper, you know, it's spoke volumes. We had

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Speaker 1: so many unsung heroes, Like we were talking about Chase Blackburne.

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Speaker 1: He came on the team in November. November. He was

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Speaker 1: a substitute math teacher. I think, you know, we were

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Speaker 1: He's running with it to the twenty, to the ten,

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Speaker 1: mean there's so many guys that, like, you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: we kind of you know, when people think of that team,

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Speaker 1: but like it was such a a collective, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: stepped up, David Talson stepped up Rocky, but North Canty.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I still think of Canty man. You know,

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Speaker 1: a shot at Dallage. Y'all know that, um, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: or the fan fair. It's like you said, you know,

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Speaker 1: we had so many song heroes, and and they don't

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Speaker 1: so about what it took, you know, what it took

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Speaker 1: because now we're seven and seven. You know, according to

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Speaker 1: the stats, you know, we're a mediocre team, but we

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Speaker 1: I told listen, we can't have nobody on the silide.

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Speaker 1: it is. I don't care about your injury. And we

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Speaker 1: need everybody. I need to know what this guy's thinking.

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Speaker 1: have him here if we're gonna if we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: that's the only way we're gonna win. We weren't good

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Speaker 1: That wasn't gonna happen. And that challenge to the team man,

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Speaker 1: I think obviously resonated very well that that goes back

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Speaker 1: not the coming around and trail, but it was it

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Speaker 1: was like it was like you did You did it

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Speaker 1: is your company company guy, right because obviously we're talking

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Speaker 1: to coach, we're talking to you know, me and you

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Speaker 1: we gotta go back and share these these insights, these

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Speaker 1: give that. So like how you did it though, again

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Speaker 1: you did it in a way that just like when

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Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't coming from calling, it wasn't coming from management,

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Speaker 1: wasn't coming from the GM. That was to six talking

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Speaker 1: and it was real, let's go ahead and be great man,

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Speaker 1: Let's go out your hip let's go ahead, Let's go ahead.

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Speaker 1: That I was trying to be this guy, right, like

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Speaker 1: all year long, you know, the team you made that

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Speaker 1: to be. There came a point in time where I

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Speaker 1: So when you challenge the team and I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know this, but like you

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Speaker 1: when the intensity in which those secondary meetings became. You know,

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Speaker 1: playing the best ball of our lives together. Right. I

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Speaker 1: still remember coach and saying, this was the best practices

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Speaker 1: we had all year in Super Bowl flying and you

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Speaker 1: had a lot to do with that. We were listened,

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Speaker 1: we we were flying right. Our practices were honestly perfect.

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Speaker 1: They were perfect. I mean like were perfect practices on

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Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you remember, and I was, and I was saying this earlier.

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Speaker 1: Our practice squad, they got us so prepared for that

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Speaker 1: moment and for that game. Best, the best I've ever seen,

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Speaker 1: the best I've ever been around. There are Giants Football

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Speaker 1: is on the air from higher top Lucas Royal Stadium

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. It's the New York Football Giants and the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots super Bowl forty check. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: let's get into it, then let's talk about it. So

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Speaker 1: we've always lived for the moment where you set the tone.

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Speaker 1: First player of the game, and I know for a

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Speaker 1: fact they're going to play action pass. It's down here.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is not gonna come out and run the

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Speaker 1: ball first, not here when he can go and exactly

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Speaker 1: what I thought he was gonna do. What he did.

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Speaker 1: He was going for a shot and he wanted to

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Speaker 1: set the tone as well. So I said to myself,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get off the ball slow. They run

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Speaker 1: the ball. My quickness, I can get around and get

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Speaker 1: the edge, and we've done and so forth. But if

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Speaker 1: but if it's a pass, he's gonna drop back. I'm

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Speaker 1: off the ball slow. That creates space and then I

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Speaker 1: can kind of fornake in my way right, And sure enough,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly if you see the player. I kind of

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Speaker 1: hop out of my stand and like I just go inside,

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Speaker 1: you know, I see you know that the guard come

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Speaker 1: back and luckily worked out because he kind of pushes

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Speaker 1: me into like ready and you get the safety that parvote.

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Speaker 1: We've set the tone right now, right, and then obviously

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Speaker 1: offense comes out and does that thing. Takes a snap

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Speaker 1: back to throw grows long, I've touchdown giants, pick the

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Speaker 1: cruise on the slat. We're off to the races. This

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Speaker 1: is the game. Your nerves has settled down, right, And

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Speaker 1: because you know, I don't care who you are. And

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Speaker 1: when that that first kickoff goes off and you see

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Speaker 1: eighty thousand people with those light bulls flashing whatever, you

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Speaker 1: kind of stopping and stare a little bit. But now,

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Speaker 1: now from your friend's point, as we have gotten into

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Speaker 1: the game, what are you thinking? You know? For me,

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Speaker 1: it was like another one of those personal bottles. Right.

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Speaker 1: I got his guy, which is Westwalker, Um, a little rabbit, right,

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Speaker 1: It was like a rabbit, um. So my thing was

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Speaker 1: listening if I can eliminate him. You know, we got

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Speaker 1: a pretty good shot. But for us, honestly, defensively in

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Speaker 1: the secondary, our objective and our goal was to keep

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Speaker 1: Brady to seventeen points or under, you know, And we

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Speaker 1: did that, you know, and when it was time, and

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Speaker 1: when when it was crucial moments came, we had our

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Speaker 1: big guys up front the temple. Once again, we had

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Speaker 1: the personnel. Everybody on that D line was six four

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Speaker 1: of or above, had long arms. I never made this

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Speaker 1: clip with Brady was like, it's like throwing through the forces,

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Speaker 1: like throwing the forest there, guys, the arms are like

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Speaker 1: if it was talk, it was JPP. Listen. If they

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Speaker 1: weren't getting sacks, they were getting pressure. And for the

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Speaker 1: second day, we love pressure sometimes more than sacks. We

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Speaker 1: get opportunities. Yeah, absolutely so, Chase Blackburn, you know, covering

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Speaker 1: the best time in the football Ncowsky downfield again an interception.

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Speaker 1: Dude was sitting that sitting that home. You know. He

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Speaker 1: came to us in November. But when his bill was called,

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Speaker 1: he answered, Brady crawls out the signals, take the snaps

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Speaker 1: back to throw. He's trying to pressure and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get Now he runs out of the sack and now

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Speaker 1: Brandy rolls to his right. Those a deep ball down

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Speaker 1: field Ferkowsky druckball intercepted by the Giants. Chase Blackbirds picked

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Speaker 1: it up. That interception. The impact that had on that

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Speaker 1: game because they're driving, they're driving, you know, and if

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Speaker 1: he if they score there, the game is a little different.

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Speaker 1: It's very different because I think at one point he

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Speaker 1: went on like a seventeen seventeen zero rue, I believe, yeah,

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Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, yeah, he was cooking. He was cooking.

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Speaker 1: He was I think he completed what like or sixteen

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Speaker 1: straight passes. He started, he started heat up. But we

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Speaker 1: never gave up the big play. We just played great football,

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Speaker 1: you know, and we didn't get beside ourselves. You know,

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Speaker 1: he had some touchdowns, We had some moments where we

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Speaker 1: didn't play our best football. I didn't hear no one

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Speaker 1: piece of bicker on the sideline. You know, everything was positive.

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Speaker 1: Everything was come on, let's do this, or let's make

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Speaker 1: this adjustment, or let's talk. Let's get in our group,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about what we need to do. We all

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Speaker 1: bought into the same thing. We was on one accord,

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Speaker 1: and that's what allowed us to be as successful as

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Speaker 1: we were. You know, defensively one time out warning seen

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Speaker 1: something like this before. You know, I got asked the question,

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Speaker 1: if I have one game, one game to win it off,

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Speaker 1: one game, who would I take? I told him I'd

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Speaker 1: rather take Eli man. In those moments, he play that

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Speaker 1: needs to be made still a cruise in Dick's games,

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Speaker 1: Like that ball that goes through your hands, the cross.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're right on this site, but

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Speaker 1: those are snow. The guys make him go to Manningham.

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Speaker 1: That throw to Mario Manningham handing out of the shotguns

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Speaker 1: shot He's back to throw flines the pocket deep ball

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Speaker 1: down the left sideline and it's gonna be caught. Was

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Speaker 1: he in bounced? Yes, Manningham on the sideline. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: people all the time, right, Mario didn't catch that ball.

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Speaker 1: He didn't had no choice. That ball was stuck to

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Speaker 1: it like it hit him in a place where he

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Speaker 1: had no choice but to catch it there. And people

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Speaker 1: don't realize how often he practiced that. The trash cans

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines after practice. Yeah, he would put up

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Speaker 1: trash cans at forty five, fifty five, sixty or whatever

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Speaker 1: I forget the numbers right, and he would be out

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Speaker 1: there and he wouldn't leave the field until he put

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Speaker 1: a certain number of balls right in that trash. You

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Speaker 1: know how hard that is with nobody in your face.

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Speaker 1: He was getting hit through it and they coming, and

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Speaker 1: not only that, the safety broke on that ball. So clear, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Man, Yes, I was like, oh my god, he

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Speaker 1: got it. He got it. Only one place he could

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Speaker 1: have put the ball, And obviously I give my Mario

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Speaker 1: his his his his dude too because to get his

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Speaker 1: feet down. Oh my goodness, he time that perfectly knowing

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get wrong, You're gonna get wrong, you get hit.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because I had been in that situation twice

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Speaker 1: obviously in the Super Bowls where you gotta have that touchdown.

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Speaker 1: That guy go do it right. Never in the moment

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Speaker 1: was I thinking he's not gonna do it. And obviously

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Speaker 1: you know a b fo fo falls in the ends,

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Speaker 1: on runs up the middle, on, he falls into the

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Speaker 1: end zone for the touchdown. He thought about stopping, but

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Speaker 1: he went in for the touchdown. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: feels yeah, I think he's playing that. It's a good moment. Side.

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Speaker 1: But from your advantage point, I already know the answer

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Speaker 1: it is. But from your advantage point, we that's what

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Speaker 1: we wanted. We didn't care. We wanted to end it.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to be asked that question several times, like, man,

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Speaker 1: you want Matt, I ain't care, Man, No, I don't

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Speaker 1: want this. Man. Listen, we played fifty eight minutes a

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Speaker 1: hard nosed football. What's another two yea in this game?

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Speaker 1: You're not tired. I might pass out after the game,

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Speaker 1: but in this moment right there, I did, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: We ready for this, and I I was so excited

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Speaker 1: to step back on the football field, because you know,

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Speaker 1: we all are selfish in our own right. We all

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Speaker 1: won't you. We want to bet. We want the one,

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Speaker 1: We want to be the one at the end. Know

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Speaker 1: I alreadyknew ELI was gonna win m v P. Already

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Speaker 1: knew that, But I wanted to be a part of

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Speaker 1: that group of guys that ended it for play away.

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Speaker 1: I can't stay stiff. I can't stay stiff. One last place,

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Speaker 1: leave a miracle, come out. Giants dropped three men five yards.

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Speaker 1: Get him all back. Brady's back, Brady's under pressure, Brady's changed. Brady.

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Speaker 1: He's one down the middle of the field and to

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Speaker 1: the end zone. How long did that ball stay up

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Speaker 1: in the air. My job was to jam Westwoker and

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Speaker 1: to pretty much prevent him from right now field. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I touched I'm almost pretty sure I didn't

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Speaker 1: touch West because the West was streaking out of the the

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Speaker 1: field and I was maybe fifteen yards behind. I honestly

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Speaker 1: I had new the legs. I couldn't control it, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? I didn't know, but I honestly

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Speaker 1: had new the legs and when I'm watching the ball

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Speaker 1: in the air, then I just really started. I started humping.

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Speaker 1: I started getting it, getting it, getting it. And I

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Speaker 1: just watched KP, I watched Dion, I watched all them

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Speaker 1: boards and jump for that ball, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: may off there the jump ball and it's ain't complete.

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00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: And I just see the ball get battered down and

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Speaker 1: ground in front of me, and I'm just thinking, you

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Speaker 1: better scratch Claul, whatever you gotta do. If that ball

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Speaker 1: hit his hands, he can't come down with it. And

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Speaker 1: I just remember running up on him and just swatting.

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Speaker 1: We both hit air. Nothing cofetti confed and the ball

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Speaker 1: games over and the giant if what's super about hold

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Speaker 1: in Wait will not not World town. I'll never forget this.

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00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: All of you guys were celebrating and like you know,

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Speaker 1: when the confetti hits and everybody runs out and blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I went to the sideline and found

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Speaker 1: on a golf cart, one of those flat bad golf cards,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sitting on it by myself, and like, for me,

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Speaker 1: it was such a combination of such a up and

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00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: down season, such a challenging season, but such a um

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Speaker 1: memorable one too, right, Nobody gave us a chance. Ain't knocks.

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Speaker 1: We were seven and seven going the last two games,

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Speaker 1: you know. But when we all bought in and we

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00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: were all in, we were all collectives as a unit,

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Speaker 1: we achieved greatness and we played some of the best

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Speaker 1: ball I've ever been a part of in my NFL career.

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Speaker 1: And we challenged ourselves and we did it. We didn't

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Speaker 1: do it for ourselves. We did it for that dude

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Speaker 1: that was next to us, that dude that was depending

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Speaker 1: on us. This family here, baby all this, I don't baby,

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Speaker 1: you gotta read. They gotta ring, they gotta ring, you

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00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: gotta It wasn't about the hardware. It was about I

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Speaker 1: was going out there and showing just who we were

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Speaker 1: as a team. I mean, I knew my brothers beside me.

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Speaker 1: I knew that, you know, I was in the right place.

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Speaker 1: It is an absolute honor to come out here every

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Speaker 1: Sunday and laying on the line. You see these guys

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Speaker 1: behind me every Sunday, they come out here, they all in.

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Speaker 1: That's why we can say we're number one in the world,

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Speaker 1: in the world. Well listen, man, you know on behalf

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Speaker 1: of the new York Football Giants celebrating ten years of

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty six. This is the All End Podcast,

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Speaker 1: the two defensive captains. I hope you've learned a little

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Speaker 1: bit more about us personally, but more about the team

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Speaker 1: that we represented, the team that came together to do

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Speaker 1: what we set out to do right at that training

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Speaker 1: camp when when that peach Colbo that's Super Bowl were

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Speaker 1: obviously always a bleed blue God, bless you go Giants,

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Speaker 1: and let's let's get another one of those real soul.

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