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Speaker 1: forty seven with Amy Wells. I'm Mike Keith. Amy. Good
Speaker 1: to see you again as we wind towards the draft. Hello,
Speaker 1: Mike Keith, how are you? I'm doing well and we
Speaker 1: are so glad to bring in the dynamic draft duo
Speaker 1: from Titans radio coach Dave McGinnis and Rhet Bryan. Welcome back, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: go ahead, rich look at each other. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be nice. I want to make sure that you know
Speaker 1: Coach Mack can jump right in there. You gotta give
Speaker 1: him the Rocky Balbola line age before Beauty. Adrian, Adrian,
Speaker 1: great to be here, very excited, always excited to talk
Speaker 1: draft and the adrenaline is flowing for me. I mean,
Speaker 1: here we go do this. I just love seeing everybody
Speaker 1: in person again. It didn't nice, No, it's great. I
Speaker 1: mean you know these I mean this is this is
Speaker 1: a cool group and I miss cool groups. I like
Speaker 1: being with cool groups. Ashley Farrell, You're also part of
Speaker 1: that group. I know you can't say anything, but I'm
Speaker 1: glad you're here too. She can say all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: We just want people to hear it. Okay. But Ashley Farrell,
Speaker 1: for those who don't know, runs the show for us
Speaker 1: on the OTP, and we are most appreciative of her
Speaker 1: and the good things that she does. Right, Brian, we
Speaker 1: will be on Titan's radio starting at six Central on
Speaker 1: Thursday night and Friday night all of the first round,
Speaker 1: all of the second and the third round. And how
Speaker 1: many radio stations outside of one oh four five zone
Speaker 1: have picked it up? About another dozen stations along the
Speaker 1: network and in Alabama in Tennessee. I mean, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty good stuff. We gotta get our Kentucky
Speaker 1: partners on that, huh. Yes we do. And I'll be
Speaker 1: sending out another email probably in the day or two
Speaker 1: saying a reminder reminder. But yeah, I've had the couple
Speaker 1: just kind of jump on, Hey, I hadn't forgotten you.
Speaker 1: I'm we're in so but yeah, Memphis, Birmingham, Huntsville. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: People have grown to love the draft. Yes, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's really become a huge thing with our fan base,
Speaker 1: and it should be I mean, it's it's a phenomenon nationwide.
Speaker 1: It really is. I mean, look at what it has
Speaker 1: started out, you know, especially you know when they're at
Speaker 1: the Blackstone Hotel. They're in Chicago years ago, when everybody
Speaker 1: was drafting off a street and Smith's magazine trying to
Speaker 1: figure out who guys were. And it's a cottage industry now,
Speaker 1: I mean, it really is. I mean, and it's it
Speaker 1: is exciting, it's fun. The draft is about hope, but
Speaker 1: the draft is also about an excitement, and especially nowadays
Speaker 1: with free agency in the salary cap, you're going to
Speaker 1: add new players constantly. So it's a very exciting time.
Speaker 1: Before diving into draft, let's talk about some of the
Speaker 1: rules things that the league did earlier this week. Maybe
Speaker 1: the greatest thing Rhet Brian Owners eliminated pre seasoned overtime.
Speaker 1: I will second that by saying it may be the
Speaker 1: greatest modification of the rule book since slice bread became
Speaker 1: a thing. It's the forward pass with my gosh, Holy Moses.
Speaker 1: And this is completely unrelated, but when I think about
Speaker 1: preseason game, I go back to that two thousand and
Speaker 1: four preseason game in Green Bay, the last one against Titans.
Speaker 1: You know at lambeau Field in the lightning delay and
Speaker 1: they couldn't find you know, Commissioner Tagliaboo on the phone,
Speaker 1: he was into Hampton's. Yeah, and it was, you know,
Speaker 1: a nearly two hour delayed before the two minute warning
Speaker 1: of the first half and all that suff and I
Speaker 1: just think about, you know, you grit your teeth silently,
Speaker 1: your own gosh, it's it's knotted up and it's a
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and it's the last preseason. Somebody scores, Somebody something, please,
Speaker 1: This is fantastic. Should have been done a long time ago. Well,
Speaker 1: we played in two thousand and five, I believe it
Speaker 1: was in San Francisco in the preseason. It went to
Speaker 1: the last play of overtime and then we had to
Speaker 1: fly back across the country and it had like a
Speaker 1: nine thirty central kick. Yeah, it was a night game.
Speaker 1: I mean we got back it like six o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning. Yeah, this is making my stomach hurt. It
Speaker 1: was the old candlestick. And the thing for teams though,
Speaker 1: is it's not just inconvenient for all of us who
Speaker 1: are around it and don't want to see overtime preseason football.
Speaker 1: But you're out of guys at that point. A lot
Speaker 1: of times. I was there at that one that you're
Speaker 1: talking about live and in person. But even before then,
Speaker 1: I'm probably a reason they've got this rule. Now, when
Speaker 1: I was a head coach at Arizona, We're playing a
Speaker 1: preseason game against Seattle and Mike Homegren and I just
Speaker 1: drafted Bill Grammatica all right as a place kicker. And
Speaker 1: it came down to, you know, it was the last
Speaker 1: play where it was about a forty seven yard field
Speaker 1: goal and I could have either kicked the field goal
Speaker 1: and gone into overtime or try to take a snap
Speaker 1: and throw it, and and Homegren was on the other sideline,
Speaker 1: you know, looking at me, going like this, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I just drafted Grammatica. So I sent Grammatica out there,
Speaker 1: and of course he nails it right down the middle,
Speaker 1: and we're going overtime, and Mike Home're gonna after the
Speaker 1: game just looked at messive coach, Seriously, I just drafted
Speaker 1: the dude. You got to use it, I said, I
Speaker 1: just I just drafted the dude. I said, my bad,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Look, and then you know, Bill Grammatica paid
Speaker 1: me back by blowing his acl by jumping up and
Speaker 1: celebrating in the New York Giants, so I got paid
Speaker 1: back for that. I remember the story about he made
Speaker 1: a game winning kick or a game tying kick and
Speaker 1: jumping up and down that's when he blew out his ACL. Okay, Mike, now,
Speaker 1: that would have been a better part of the story, Okay,
Speaker 1: to be a game winning or game tying But it
Speaker 1: was in the first quarter, and it was it was
Speaker 1: the first score of the game, and it was in.
Speaker 1: It was in it was an old Giant stadium, as
Speaker 1: you know, when they'd opened the doors going towards the
Speaker 1: doors that were open, and it was a forty three yarder.
Speaker 1: Jim Fossil was the head coach of the other team,
Speaker 1: and so Grammatica nails it. I mean it's a great kick,
Speaker 1: I mean it is. But it's a first quarter, all right,
Speaker 1: we're a head three to nothing. Okay, it's and he
Speaker 1: jumps up. I mean, you know, he's some Argentina so
Speaker 1: they you know how they spin around at soccer and
Speaker 1: all that. He jumped up and came down and just
Speaker 1: blew it. And you know, he hit the ground and
Speaker 1: went down to the ground and then limped off. And
Speaker 1: so now we've kicked the field goal, right, So the
Speaker 1: rules are you got to kick off? Right? And so
Speaker 1: the trainer comes up to me and said, kicker can't
Speaker 1: kick off? And I said why? I said, thank he
Speaker 1: tore as ACL And I said, he what they say,
Speaker 1: tore as a cl? I said, doing what they said?
Speaker 1: Well celebrating? Did you see the celebration? Yes, idea. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, you're a human athlete. You can't just blow
Speaker 1: your a c all out jump it up and coming down.
Speaker 1: So I went over there to him and I said,
Speaker 1: what can you do? Coach? I think I hurt my knee?
Speaker 1: I said, is your knee hurt? Or did you tear
Speaker 1: your ACL? I don't know. I said, can you kick? No?
Speaker 1: I said, great, that's it, last word I said to him.
Speaker 1: So then ever so then then I went. Then I
Speaker 1: went to the to the our special team's coach and said,
Speaker 1: who we got to kick off? And he said, I
Speaker 1: come screaming down the sideline, Pat Tillman, coach, I can kick?
Speaker 1: I said, Tilly, seriously, you can kick. I told you
Speaker 1: a few words I can't say on the OTP. I
Speaker 1: could kick. And I said, all right, go kick. So
Speaker 1: here's my kicker. The rest of the game. We had
Speaker 1: to go for two. When we scored, I said, can
Speaker 1: you kick an extra point? He said, oh, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: He thought he could do anything, all right, And so
Speaker 1: there's where it was. But he was kicking straight on right, No,
Speaker 1: straight on, I mean just dead straight on lou Grozas style. Okay,
Speaker 1: took off run a kick. It went bouncing around like
Speaker 1: a duck on a sidewalk, you know, you know, just
Speaker 1: bouncing around everywhere down there. But first quarter only Coach
Speaker 1: Mac with the story. This is why you listen to
Speaker 1: the OTP. You got that right, Amy, Wow, that's unbelievable. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's not unbelievable. It had happened. I would never lietv wow.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great story. What's a true story.
Speaker 1: It's a true story. That's people want me to write
Speaker 1: a book. I will when I'm through with all this.
Speaker 1: Do we get to pre screen that book? No, all,
Speaker 1: y'all will come out good in it. Speaking of kicking,
Speaker 1: By the way, who was the last straight on kicker?
Speaker 1: Russell erk s Laban Do you think he was probably
Speaker 1: the last one? The last regular straight coach Longhorn University.
Speaker 1: He was also a good punder well. He could really punt.
Speaker 1: He was an athletic dude. The youngsters here don't remember
Speaker 1: what a straight on kicker was. Sounds like it hurts,
Speaker 1: It really did. Remember when you used to have to
Speaker 1: square toe and tie Jim Baching with the Saint Luimkin
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals to tie up his shoe. He had
Speaker 1: a square toe and so he would hit seven field
Speaker 1: goals in a game. The last foot Mark Moseley for
Speaker 1: the Washington football team. For the Washington football team. That's correct, Google,
Speaker 1: Nice job, Ashley Farrell. He wore the one bar and
Speaker 1: his holder was Joe Fisman, who also wore the one bar.
Speaker 1: I remember that stuff that you don't want to know,
Speaker 1: but stuff that I wonder about when it comes to
Speaker 1: the national football That's why miss being on the OTP,
Speaker 1: with all the uninteresting facts, probably should have wore more
Speaker 1: than one bar. Of the day he met Lawrence Taylor. Hello.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, the receiving team on kickoffs will
Speaker 1: be limited to nine players within ten to twenty five
Speaker 1: yards of the ball. That's one less. Last year, on
Speaker 1: side kicks, sixty seven of them. How many were successful,
Speaker 1: Amy Wells of sixty seven, I would say four all right, Red, Brian,
Speaker 1: I'd say less than that. Okay, Coach Mack. Three is correct,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Coach Mack giving us the three here. It's
Speaker 1: not a very visual medium, but I will tell you
Speaker 1: that's what he said. Is this a better change, in
Speaker 1: your opinion, Dave McGinnis than what was the quote unquote
Speaker 1: gimmick of giving a team a fourth and fifteen chance
Speaker 1: to keep the ball which was proposed and then table Absolutely, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: absolutely yes. I still like the fact they have to
Speaker 1: kick it. You may not get any more than three
Speaker 1: of sixty seven again, but at least numbers wise, you
Speaker 1: have a better chance if it doesn't work. Would you
Speaker 1: be more willing to accept the fourth and fifteen gimmick? No? No, Rhett,
Speaker 1: you're a traditionalist. But I mean, honestly, outside of the
Speaker 1: surprise on side, the onside kick is basically out of
Speaker 1: the game. Now, Well, I mean evidence, Bun that many
Speaker 1: a three three seven? Yeah? I think it was eleven
Speaker 1: of one twelve over the two preceding seasons they did
Speaker 1: try sixty seven of them, though they did or sixty
Speaker 1: seven of them. So these the special teams, coaches, and
Speaker 1: you've seen the different ways they've schemed it up with
Speaker 1: the watermelon kick, you know, and you know what Bones
Speaker 1: Fossil used to do. Who's a special team's coach now
Speaker 1: the Cowboys when we were with the Rams, would do
Speaker 1: would would make the approach and have a guy beat
Speaker 1: you know, ambidextrious? Is it still ambidextrous with your legs?
Speaker 1: If you do it amphibious? Amphibious? Would would would fake
Speaker 1: it with his right and kick it with his left
Speaker 1: the other way. You know, a lot of different things
Speaker 1: that you can do. So they attempted sixty seven of them.
Speaker 1: They're still the glimmer of hope, like when you're sixty seven.
Speaker 1: But as a fan, you still feel, don't you When
Speaker 1: you see your team running out for that play. They
Speaker 1: line up, all right, this is it. We just gotta
Speaker 1: get this success rate on a side kicks. It's not great,
Speaker 1: worst history, it's not. I'm just an optimist, but they
Speaker 1: go out there, this is it. I'm an optimist. You're unrealistic. Unrealistic.
Speaker 1: I think that all we got to do is make
Speaker 1: this play. Okay, Matt, that's because you're scared of her. Wow,
Speaker 1: I get excited. I hate that it is not a
Speaker 1: competitive play anymore. I hate it. When it was twenty
Speaker 1: to twenty five percent, that was great. It is. Listen,
Speaker 1: it's the most dangerous play in football if it's if
Speaker 1: it's done the way it was back in my day.
Speaker 1: We're not awed brass knuckles. And I mean when you
Speaker 1: get sent out there at any level, at any level
Speaker 1: of football, on on sidekick receiving team, you knew that
Speaker 1: might be it for you. Can I tell you the
Speaker 1: coaching points back in the old days, sure, First of all,
Speaker 1: there was only two people days need to go get
Speaker 1: the ball? Okay, two people because you could line up
Speaker 1: as many as you wanted. The rest of them was
Speaker 1: to do like braveheart destroy, take off running and destroy
Speaker 1: anything in front of you as hard as you can.
Speaker 1: And one guy your job was. Because there's always a
Speaker 1: guy that stands behind the first line that is supposed
Speaker 1: to catch it. You go try to annihilate him. Don't
Speaker 1: even try to get the ball. You're not You're not
Speaker 1: involved to get the ball. Do you remember who got
Speaker 1: taken out in a game at Nissan Stadium A last
Speaker 1: time the Titans recovered an onside kick. Gonna be in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Larry Fitzgerald and the great incredible
Speaker 1: comeback against the Bits. Ryan Fitzpatrick leads the Titans back
Speaker 1: from seventeen down in the final minutes, then throws an
Speaker 1: interception in overtime. Sounds about yeah, it wasn't. It was
Speaker 1: so typical Fitzy. But anyway, but the onside kick went
Speaker 1: to Larry Fitzgerald and he got lost the ball, didn't
Speaker 1: know where he was, couldn't come back in the game.
Speaker 1: And I thought, at that point, man, you know, if
Speaker 1: you're putting Larry Fitzgerald in there, I don't believe i'd
Speaker 1: do that. I'd rather lose the game. But you had
Speaker 1: a chance at that point, yes, and now just make
Speaker 1: the play. Well three of sixty seven Coach Mack was
Speaker 1: saying is there wasn't a hands team. There was a
Speaker 1: hands duo originally, and then it was like running into
Speaker 1: a Civil War battlefield. Good luck, it was braveheart on
Speaker 1: Marcus set go. Who I mean, it was rough. And
Speaker 1: now it's like, unless something really flukey happens, there's almost
Speaker 1: no chance. And the league needs to have that be
Speaker 1: a competitive play because you don't need people turning off
Speaker 1: the TV if it's a two score game in the
Speaker 1: final five minutes and they know there's no chance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not with our hundred billion dollars TV deal. I get it,
Speaker 1: and I see what you're saying, and it's similar to
Speaker 1: the kickoff argument with all the touchbacks and all of that.
Speaker 1: I know you are. Do you want every second to
Speaker 1: be the most compelling, exciting thing. I want to see
Speaker 1: if if we could light people on fire and have
Speaker 1: a run around, you be into it because it'd be exciting. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I know if it was a football play. I want
Speaker 1: to see football plays. That's why in the pros, I
Speaker 1: don't want to see twenty yard extra points. I want
Speaker 1: to see thirty three yard extra points because if it
Speaker 1: counts a point, and these are the best kickers in
Speaker 1: the world, they ought to be able to make one
Speaker 1: further than a college kicker. If they're going to say
Speaker 1: that the on side kick is unsafe, then let's get
Speaker 1: rid of it and let's do a fourth and fifteen
Speaker 1: play that gives somebody a chance and at least puts
Speaker 1: the percentages back over ten percent. Amy. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: right now the percentages are at like five. Yeah. Amy.
Speaker 1: If they're the best athletes in the world, they should
Speaker 1: also be able to recover any But they can't because
Speaker 1: in essence for how it's set up now, they don't
Speaker 1: have a chance because you can't have ten guys on
Speaker 1: a side, and you can't. I mean, it's got to
Speaker 1: be some trick them. Amy, don't give in. I'm not
Speaker 1: giving he's not given anything. Well, he's just getting louder.
Speaker 1: I'm not quitting. Just let him spin himself out. Presented
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Speaker 1: Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. All right, move on
Speaker 1: to the next point. Since Amy got the last one wrong,
Speaker 1: the owners approved expanded booth to communications review. So the booth,
Speaker 1: the replay official, can now talk to the referee, no
Speaker 1: sky judge, no lord of officiated, the sky judge. The
Speaker 1: sky judge idea was one that he or she would
Speaker 1: essentially be the eighth official and could make a call
Speaker 1: from the booth. There's some people who like that idea.
Speaker 1: There's some people who think that's too much. In this way,
Speaker 1: the replay official, Dave McGinnis can radio down to young
Speaker 1: Hokulee or whomever it is in the working the ball
Speaker 1: game and can say, Hey, it's pretty obvious on the
Speaker 1: TV replay the guy caught the ball, or it's pretty
Speaker 1: obvious on the TV replay that you've spotted the ball incorrectly.
Speaker 1: Is it too intrusive? Do you? What do you think
Speaker 1: about this? I like it? You do like it? I
Speaker 1: do like it. We've got the technology now to do it.
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons they say that they're still
Speaker 1: are not in on the sky judge being all powerful
Speaker 1: up there. They're not sure how many qualified people they
Speaker 1: have yet to be able to spread out across the
Speaker 1: league and do it, you know, empirically, without much delay.
Speaker 1: I like this, I really do, because we've got the technology.
Speaker 1: How many times, Mike, are you and I in the
Speaker 1: booth and we get that truck replay and we go, uh,
Speaker 1: I thing hit the ground. We that hit the ground.
Speaker 1: We can see it now. We can see it because
Speaker 1: we get we get the truck copy, we can see
Speaker 1: it well. The person in the booth, the replay official,
Speaker 1: will get that same copy. I'm all for it. How
Speaker 1: many times last season did you and I do double
Speaker 1: backflips because of the misspotted balls. Oh no, No, seriously,
Speaker 1: how many times I know exactly how many times? Six Wow?
Speaker 1: In a game? Again, I mean they can't spot, they
Speaker 1: can't spot the ball. And so I'm all for this.
Speaker 1: It's an enhancement of that's the idea of booth to
Speaker 1: field communication in this thing. That's the right word. Yeah
Speaker 1: and so, and I like that because I think you're
Speaker 1: going to get more clear and concise decisions. I think
Speaker 1: it is certainly in an effort to reduce errors in
Speaker 1: those things. And I think you'll see that as a byproduct.
Speaker 1: Do you buy it? Yeah, I buy it. I mean
Speaker 1: until something egregious happens, I'm on board goes terribly wrong. Theoretically,
Speaker 1: it could keep something egregious and that's the whole And
Speaker 1: that's the whole idea. Like if you're in a hurry
Speaker 1: up situation and it's just obvious something is missed, that
Speaker 1: can be fixed like that, And and they've the nice
Speaker 1: thing is they're going to have three preseason games to
Speaker 1: play with it, right. I'm all for an extra set
Speaker 1: of eyes whenever you can get them. I think that
Speaker 1: is valuable. I think they need all the help they
Speaker 1: can get with the technology. It's like a full time
Speaker 1: accountability partner for four quarters. See I could, I could
Speaker 1: do that job. Yeah, and I'm just busy. I wasn't
Speaker 1: an official, but I could do that job, right, and
Speaker 1: they could. They could get former coaches to do that
Speaker 1: job because you can't. You don't have to be an
Speaker 1: official right to be able to rectify some of those things. No,
Speaker 1: you know, the game situationally, the whole thing. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so to me, this has some good merit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the point too is and people may wonder this
Speaker 1: that guy could not be theoretically at least could not
Speaker 1: be in the referees ear telling him things. Now, there
Speaker 1: have been some conspiracy theorists that think they've been doing
Speaker 1: this for years and that this is just legal. There's
Speaker 1: no proof of that. But now that person, the replay official,
Speaker 1: can be in the referees ear by virtue of this rule.
Speaker 1: It's like a television producers of the news anchor, etc. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it. I'm into it. Can we talk about
Speaker 1: another thing that has happened in the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks and Mike Keith, I think you're going to like
Speaker 1: this because you really like uniforms in jersey number and
Speaker 1: the day to day outfitting of I like an outfit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think you're gonna like this because the league
Speaker 1: has expanded the jersey numbers that certain positions can wear.
Speaker 1: So let me tell you running backs, tight ends, fullbacks,
Speaker 1: h backs, wide receivers. Basically, skilled players can wear numbers
Speaker 1: one through forty nine and eighty through eighty nine. Defensive
Speaker 1: backs can wear numbers one through forty nine, linebackers one
Speaker 1: through fifty nine, So quite the range and single digits.
Speaker 1: Single digits are available now for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Who do we think is the first Titans player, Michae
Speaker 1: I'll start with you, because you like this so much.
Speaker 1: Who do you think is the first Titans player to
Speaker 1: take advantage of this new rule and change their number,
Speaker 1: change their number well, or take advantage of the new rule.
Speaker 1: I guess I think whomever they draft highly in the
Speaker 1: secondary end at wide receiver will do it this year
Speaker 1: and take a single digit, take a single digit. I
Speaker 1: really liked what aj Brown did though. Of course, he
Speaker 1: was number one at Old Miss, and so he is
Speaker 1: eleven with the Titans. He's considering number one, number one.
Speaker 1: He goes back and he looks at the history. Number
Speaker 1: one is retired. As a matter of fact, when Gary
Speaker 1: Anderson joined the Titans in two thousand and three and
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, they unretired it because Gary Anderson
Speaker 1: was one of the great kickers of all time. But
Speaker 1: it was Warren Moons and AJ being a young guy,
Speaker 1: doesn't know the whole history. So what does he do?
Speaker 1: Rhet He reads up on Warren Moon and then says, hey,
Speaker 1: love to be number one. It would be cool, but
Speaker 1: Warren Moon, you're the bomb. I'm not doing it. I thought, man,
Speaker 1: one more reason to love Arthur one. Right. It is
Speaker 1: a great story, and that has just happened recently, and
Speaker 1: for him too, because young folks don't always just check
Speaker 1: to see what's what. They just they're like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. He went did his homework and
Speaker 1: that's what I really appreciate about what he did, and
Speaker 1: then gave a tip of cap to the respect to
Speaker 1: Warren Moon and saying, hey, no wonder you wore number
Speaker 1: one and it's retired. Hands off, I'm good. I'm good
Speaker 1: with eleven. A couple of things on this that I
Speaker 1: think is interesting. One Tom Brady put on his social media.
Speaker 1: He hates this idea and he hates it for the
Speaker 1: lineman he put on his Instagram today. He says, why
Speaker 1: not letting lineman wear whatever numbers they want too? Why
Speaker 1: have numbers? Just have colored jerseys? Why not wear the
Speaker 1: same number? Dumb at NFL at NFLPA Here, Tod, let
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. How much change do you
Speaker 1: make off those twelves? You're not TB and a color.
Speaker 1: You're TB twelve, right, that is your brand, TB yellow
Speaker 1: TV whatever. No, he's TB twelve, and thank you for
Speaker 1: setting me up for the next point on No. I
Speaker 1: have read and I don't know if this is true,
Speaker 1: but I read where you can change your number if
Speaker 1: you're in one of these that you outlined to a
Speaker 1: single digit. But you apparently have to buy the merchandise
Speaker 1: that's always been of the remaining numbers of your numeral
Speaker 1: jerseys from the league, at whatever price it is and
Speaker 1: whatever's left out there, which is, However, if you wait
Speaker 1: till next year, because those jerseys and things change all
Speaker 1: the time, and that inventory has gone and it's old,
Speaker 1: it's it's outdated, it will cost you nothing. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, Derrick Henry could say right now, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go back to two and it wouldn't cost him anything.
Speaker 1: But if he did it for this year, he would
Speaker 1: have to buy out and think about how many twenty
Speaker 1: two jerseys there are? You know who I think may
Speaker 1: do it? And I want to ask the expert, Dave McGinnis.
Speaker 1: I think Jack Rabbit may do it. I think Generus
Speaker 1: Jenkins because he's been a sign twenty but nobody's bought
Speaker 1: any twenties yet, so they haven't mass produced them. He
Speaker 1: could do it. Does he think about it? Knowing what
Speaker 1: you know about Jack Rabbit? Jack Rabbit, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's married to a numb But would he have the
Speaker 1: mentality to do it and the thought process? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he absolutely would. But your answer was the best answer
Speaker 1: because of this, because of the money it would cost.
Speaker 1: You know, real guys. Now, some guys that don't have
Speaker 1: a big inventory sitting in a warehouse someplace, they may change,
Speaker 1: and not just to a single digit. They may want
Speaker 1: to change their number because if you'll remember, I mean
Speaker 1: the league went through number changes in seventy three, seventy four,
Speaker 1: and I think the last one was eighty two. You know,
Speaker 1: as far as adding more numbers, and the reason that
Speaker 1: they started putting linebackers in the nineties was because more
Speaker 1: people started playing thirty four defenses and they ran out
Speaker 1: of fifties. Okay, And so I think there are some
Speaker 1: that might change to a different double digit number that
Speaker 1: don't have to buy out the inventory, because a lot
Speaker 1: of times those guys that get those jerseys with unusual
Speaker 1: numbers that end up making it and then they have
Speaker 1: to have that number because you've got that number hosses
Speaker 1: out of those other number that you can't assign. Those
Speaker 1: are the guys that might change. But anybody that's got
Speaker 1: big inventory out there, they're waiting until it's free. My
Speaker 1: mind is blown. I'm just sitting here tabulating the numbers
Speaker 1: of how expensive it would be for Derrick Henry to
Speaker 1: change his jersey number. Yes, because astronomical. And you think
Speaker 1: about this, because it's the NFL. They're not giving a
Speaker 1: hometown discount. No, you're gonna hit that at two ninety
Speaker 1: five pp or whatever it is. Yeah, I mean you're
Speaker 1: gonna pay for it because that's it's retail, that's their
Speaker 1: money first, that's yeah, and then then the teams get
Speaker 1: a cut, right, and then the player gets a cut
Speaker 1: and everybody that There are a lot of people who
Speaker 1: get a cut of a jersey going to You're not
Speaker 1: going to Costco or Sam's Wholesale Club and getting the deal. Nope,
Speaker 1: you're getting that at team. You still like a guy
Speaker 1: like Okay, Rashaun Evans, he was thirty at Alabama, wasn't.
Speaker 1: I believe that's right? So would he want to go
Speaker 1: back to thirty next year? Maybe? I think if you're
Speaker 1: a young guy who was just kind of assigned to
Speaker 1: Max point signed an ugly number. What's an ugly number?
Speaker 1: There are definitely ugly numbers. Give me an ugly number.
Speaker 1: Forty three, Well, that's retired and ugly. Don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about it. You've never seen it here. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, there are some numbers that don't look great.
Speaker 1: Eighty seven I don't love. Eighty seven doesn't look good,
Speaker 1: not really. No, you've got to be the right of
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties numbers. You've got to be the right person.
Speaker 1: But eighty eight looks good, eighty six looks fine, eighty seven.
Speaker 1: There are some numbers that just don't look great. Eighty
Speaker 1: four is a very good looking well, like like forty nine,
Speaker 1: that's an ugly number. That's a horrible number. Yeah, forty
Speaker 1: nine is not great. See what's said about numbers. I
Speaker 1: actually know what she's talking about. There's something that just
Speaker 1: actually agree with her. But you're just letting her hang herself.
Speaker 1: I'm letting her do it because if I bring it up,
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing. Going too that whole frable thing about uniforms
Speaker 1: and numbers, and I get in trouble. I like gear.
Speaker 1: I mean I admitted I like gear. I like gear
Speaker 1: when I played a hundred years ago, and I like
Speaker 1: it now. I like the cool shoes. I still I
Speaker 1: love that all the tennis shoes are back, the Jordan's
Speaker 1: and the stan Smiths and all the like. No, I
Speaker 1: like there are all elements of an outfit right like it.
Speaker 1: What more, in this area, teams are right now, for
Speaker 1: the most part, not going to come in for OTAs,
Speaker 1: and the union is stressing this. The players are pretty
Speaker 1: much in solidarity, although like the Titans players statement is hey,
Speaker 1: if a guy needs to go in to do his thing,
Speaker 1: that's cool. You do what you want to do. But
Speaker 1: they don't want to have to stay in town and
Speaker 1: come in for practice and running around in shorts, and
Speaker 1: the league seems to be acquiescing some much to the
Speaker 1: chagrin of coaches and and general managers. But I think
Speaker 1: everyone realizes that because of twenty twenty and what happened
Speaker 1: and how the season went, that there was probably going
Speaker 1: to be a change with COVID still in our world,
Speaker 1: Coach mac, are the offseason programs as we've known them
Speaker 1: now gone? Do you think? Yes, they're gone. Okay, they're gone,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna it's gonna change and it's gonna evolve.
Speaker 1: And last year, you know, proved some pretty big points
Speaker 1: and it's it's hard for people that have been involved
Speaker 1: in this for a long time to think because you know,
Speaker 1: for a long time in coaching, and again I put
Speaker 1: myself in that category because I coached for thirty one
Speaker 1: straight years in this league. It was always more was better,
Speaker 1: you know, the more, the more was better. You know.
Speaker 1: We went twice a day in pads two days for
Speaker 1: six weeks. I mean, there was a lot. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's evolved and it's going to evolve even more. And
Speaker 1: I think last year's success of this season with look
Speaker 1: our football team that we love here the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: They went sixteen days without being together in the middle
Speaker 1: of a season and walk through for three days and
Speaker 1: be the playoff team in a football game that counted.
Speaker 1: So there is a lot that has changed, and I
Speaker 1: think that it's going to evolve even more. And so
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever going back to what those
Speaker 1: of us that have been involved with it for our
Speaker 1: half our adult lives have known. Is that a good thing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think it is. I think it is because the
Speaker 1: empirical data that came back as far as the lessening
Speaker 1: of injuries and the thing that's happened now Mike and
Speaker 1: Amy and Rhett and Ashley, even though she can't talk
Speaker 1: this can talk this this this to me. This to me.
Speaker 1: You know when they started doing uh you know, all
Speaker 1: of the GPS in the in the jerseys and you
Speaker 1: started being able to get print outs daily. As a coach,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been involved in this where you look
Speaker 1: and you see as to whether a guy's used to
Speaker 1: call it workload or how you know, his legs look
Speaker 1: tired management And so to me, when you start getting
Speaker 1: that type of data and you can you can then
Speaker 1: take that and you can construct a practice for the
Speaker 1: next day and take and take some guys down and
Speaker 1: amp some guys up. Mike Vrabel does a tremendous job
Speaker 1: of this. He's got a great feel for it. And
Speaker 1: so all of these things are coming into because again
Speaker 1: the National Football League as a head coach, the most
Speaker 1: important thing for a head coach once the season starts,
Speaker 1: other than you know the schematic XS and os and
Speaker 1: is getting your best football team healthy to game day.
Speaker 1: Getting your best football team healthy to game day. And
Speaker 1: that best book football team changes weekly because of who's
Speaker 1: available and who's not, and so it's your charge to
Speaker 1: get the best available to game day every week. So
Speaker 1: I think it's helps well. And we also have to
Speaker 1: remember that guys, I think more than ever before, have
Speaker 1: very specific regiments, workouts, recovery routines. They all have these
Speaker 1: different things that they are investing their own time and
Speaker 1: their own money in. And I think the more time
Speaker 1: that a guy can stay with his trainer, can stay
Speaker 1: with his offseason program, whatever it is, as long as
Speaker 1: the guy's showing up healthy when it counts for training
Speaker 1: camp and they are ready to go, I don't really
Speaker 1: see any problem with that, especially with the technology the
Speaker 1: way that it is where they can still get some
Speaker 1: of that training and they can meet with their coaches
Speaker 1: and do that in the appropriate time slots. They're still
Speaker 1: getting some of the mental work, and yet they're sticking
Speaker 1: to their own training. And I'm not saying that team
Speaker 1: provided training plans and eating frands and all of that.
Speaker 1: Those are great, and those trainers know their players, but
Speaker 1: guys also have their own individual routines that maybe give
Speaker 1: them a something a little bit different. They're able to
Speaker 1: focus their skill set in a different way and what
Speaker 1: it is they're really working on, and it's something that
Speaker 1: they are going to take very seriously because they're investing
Speaker 1: their own resources into it. So, Rett, Brian, do you
Speaker 1: think it's possible that the OTAs become a template that
Speaker 1: the teams are able to use for just young players
Speaker 1: and that they don't do it with vested veterans. Instead,
Speaker 1: the vested veterans come in for a week of mini
Speaker 1: camp or a few days, but the OTAs as we
Speaker 1: know them are for guys who are rookies up to
Speaker 1: three or four years of service. I think it can
Speaker 1: completely transition to that. When you're talking undrafted free agents
Speaker 1: and certainly your draft class or first and second year
Speaker 1: guys you've invited to a rookie mini camp. Slash Ota
Speaker 1: to transition into that and use this as a modern
Speaker 1: model going forward. I recently had a discussion with former
Speaker 1: Steelers safety Ryan Clark who said he worked out West
Speaker 1: with his trainer every offseason and did not come in
Speaker 1: until it was really time too and he was getting
Speaker 1: messages eighte come in, come in, come in, And he
Speaker 1: said coach Tomlin would say he'd show him in front
Speaker 1: of the team as a film example. I can tell
Speaker 1: he's been working. I can tell he's been working. I
Speaker 1: see his movements, his footwork, his speed. I'd see. So
Speaker 1: there it's voluntary. You know, we know it's volunteering, right,
Speaker 1: And then I think coach Mack hit the other nail
Speaker 1: on the head is the reduction. And I don't remember
Speaker 1: what the number was, but the reduction and missed time
Speaker 1: would due to injury. It was a significant drop, I
Speaker 1: think as a big catalyst in that. Let me just
Speaker 1: say this, when I started out a while back, you know,
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six when our vets, when our team left,
Speaker 1: when I was with the Bears after the playoffs, we
Speaker 1: never saw him again. Until after the draft. They we
Speaker 1: had no offseason program. We had a universal machine in
Speaker 1: the basement, but they were all gone on their own.
Speaker 1: And so that's where the historic workout regimes of Walter
Speaker 1: Payton and Mike's Singletary and Jerry Rice, all those guys
Speaker 1: were on their own. They were all on their own
Speaker 1: when we started this. Now that involved six weeks of
Speaker 1: training camp because for the guys that weren't Walter Payton
Speaker 1: and Mike Singletary and Jerry Rice, some of those guys
Speaker 1: that hadn't been doing enough, then you had to get
Speaker 1: them physically ready to play. That's why the training camps
Speaker 1: were so long. That's not the case anymore. There's too
Speaker 1: much money, there's too much competition and all you have
Speaker 1: to do as a VET and the other thing about this,
Speaker 1: I think it's important to know. And I'm all for
Speaker 1: the you know, the vets, the vets doing this, but
Speaker 1: they've got to understand this. If they're injured out there
Speaker 1: on their own, then they're responsible, you know, you know
Speaker 1: for that also, So I think I think a healthy
Speaker 1: mix of them both is what we will get to.
Speaker 1: But it's not something that has not happened before. Mike
Speaker 1: because I experienced it when I first started in this
Speaker 1: league thirty five years ago with a very successful team
Speaker 1: for a long time, and we had no off season
Speaker 1: for a coach. Dave McGinnis and Rhet Bryant and Amy Wells, I,
Speaker 1: Mike Keith, we thank you for joining us, for the
Speaker 1: oaths of the teams, where the legends go. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: it's our house, Tennessee, making us to read cleanness is
Speaker 1: meant to be ow. We got tighting butter running through
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