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Speaker 1: Spreads show is on Good Morning, Wednesday, June eighteenth, Fred Show.

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Speaker 1: He is here, Hi, Kaylen Morning, Hi, Jason Brown, Hi,

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Speaker 1: Paulina Hikeki Manet Shovichelley's here. Nine hundred and fifty bucks

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Speaker 1: somebody get ghosted? That's new and net blogs Jason's got

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Speaker 1: Entertainmer report too.

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Speaker 2: What's in there, k, I'll give you a little ditty update.

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Speaker 2: Also Pope Leo.

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Speaker 3: He has ties to Madonna, Justin Bieber, Angelina, Joe Lee,

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Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton, Justin Trudeau and Moore.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you how someone said to me the

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Speaker 1: other day about Pope Leo because he's a Chicago boy.

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Speaker 1: Somebody was like, you know, he probably listened to your

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Speaker 1: show because you've been on the radio in Chicago for

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Speaker 1: a long time. The Pope has probably heard your radio show.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, not by choice. I mean

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Speaker 1: that he chose to listen to it as a pious man.

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Speaker 1: He said, don't do his brother Fred well, well, I

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Speaker 1: think he got excited at first when he heard that,

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Speaker 1: because he was like, oh good, he's one of ours.

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Speaker 1: And then I very clearly heard after listening for about

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Speaker 1: two minutes that I'm not I mean I am, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not. Also driving me nuts, somebody d M me

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Speaker 1: yesterday somewhere on some platform. They're doing something very cool.

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Speaker 1: They're selling T shirts to benefit I want to say

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Speaker 1: it's providing canines for veterans. Anyway, I told them I

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Speaker 1: would I would plug the T shirts. But I can't

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Speaker 1: find the DM. So if that was you, DM me

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Speaker 1: again or if you know what I'm talking about Fred

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Speaker 1: on air, hit me up there, because I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure I do what I say. They were looking

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Speaker 1: so I said I would plug them. Jason's nunning his

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Speaker 1: and things like that which we don't. We don't do,

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Speaker 1: but why would we do that? But anyway, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to plug these guys because they're doing an amazing She

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Speaker 1: is doing something amazing, and that was that was what

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Speaker 1: DM me again with the info so I can say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they talk better than they These are the radio blogs

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Speaker 1: on the Fred Show. It's like we're running in our diaries,

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Speaker 1: except we said I'm aloud. We call them blog. Jason Brown, go,

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Speaker 1: thank you yes, dear blog.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like every couple has petty ways of

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Speaker 1: So, what are some previous examples you've got on hunger strikes?

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Speaker 1: I don't doesn't look like no, no, I yes, Mikey

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Speaker 1: won't eat the food that you cook.

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Speaker 4: Mike won't eat anything because like I am the main

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Speaker 1: So like this is like people who would hold sex,

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Speaker 1: Like why does that benefit you? Like if the first

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Speaker 1: for me, then you don't like it very much? Right,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not very good at it apparently because without

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's never been something. But the food,

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Speaker 4: But so we're fourteen years in and so I don't know,

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Speaker 4: He's sitting on a bench on his phone, which I'm

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Speaker 4: already assuming that he's probably checking my location to.

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Speaker 1: but you don't have it wrecked? Yeah, yeah, there's another

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Speaker 4: Yes he can, he can see where I'm at, but

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Speaker 4: I don't know where he is. But whatever, that's fine.

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Speaker 4: So I don't acknowledge him. I walk right past, pretend

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Speaker 5: At the vehicles.

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Speaker 4: He's still there, maybe waiting for me to acknowledge him.

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Speaker 4: right past him. Again, didn't didn't acknowledge And to this day,

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Speaker 4: it's been about a week and we haven't talked about it.

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Speaker 1: There's been no mention of the fact that you both

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Speaker 1: went to the car show, right, Yeah, he obviously went

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Speaker 1: look at the cars. Yes, I'm sure he was there.

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Speaker 5: Car know Come on, you were.

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Speaker 1: There to see that corvette? Yes, everybody knows that. You know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with with monitoring his whereabouts.

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Speaker 5: Right, I'm in the market, you know, So I was

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Speaker 5: just looking because.

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Speaker 1: He could look at his phone. If he wants to

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Speaker 1: know where you are, you have to actually physically start

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Speaker 4: Yes, to locate the man physically stock instead of technologically stocked.

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Speaker 1: So wow, And no mention has been made.

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Speaker 4: Not a single mention. So I'm assuming he knows I

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Speaker 4: and I like purposely ignored him, Right, I obviously saw him.

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Speaker 5: But like there's this like unspoken.

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Speaker 1: Will we ever talk about it? I don't know, But like,

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Speaker 1: what's the what's the dumbest thing you've done in the fight, Kiki?

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Speaker 1: Like the Caddy thing?

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Speaker 5: Nothing, I'm not a Caddy person, you know.

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Speaker 6: I cursed you out right here in the moment, and

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Speaker 6: then I'm fine five minutes later we can be friends again.

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Speaker 1: So you've never done anything Caddy, You've never like gotten

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Speaker 6: The worst thing I think I've ever done in our

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Speaker 6: relationship is I got mad, So I downloaded Bumble on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like trying to be like just have

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Speaker 2: Oh my God, changes his name in her phone.

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Speaker 6: Remember, yeah, I do do that, so he will go

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Speaker 6: from like my man bay to like ugly really.

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Speaker 5: So dusty son.

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Speaker 1: God, the effort that you go. You gotta go into

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Speaker 2: We have an update.

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Speaker 5: This is what he just sent me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike's mechanic at the gay Rag. I didn't know

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Speaker 5: Yeah, his alarm just went off and this is his alarm.

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Speaker 1: So so it's a shame that blogs were a little

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Speaker 1: late this morning, because I guess he'd done them before.

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Speaker 1: Then then you could have.

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Speaker 5: I have no one to blame with my syste myself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're talking about someone, you get to do

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Speaker 5: Yes, before some fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear Mike's side of the story now, actually.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to I'd I would love to know callin Mike.

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Speaker 1: What Mike was thinking as he was sitting there watching

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Speaker 1: you peruse cards. I'm to see you walking around pretending

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Speaker 5: Like what am I looking at? I don't know? So funny,

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Speaker 5: Jason is crazy, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I've always heard you doing crazy. Yeah, I always wanted

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Speaker 1: to do this at one of those car shows. By

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Speaker 1: the way, just a side note, I've always wanted to

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Speaker 1: right next to the you know, the classic Mustang and

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Speaker 1: then put my little folding chair in front of it

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Speaker 1: what it's like, classic v W, classic Mustang Corvette.

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Speaker 2: You know, some guy's got a pours in a.

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Speaker 1: Ferrari and then it's my It's my two thousand and

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Speaker 1: two Honda with thirty thousand miles on it and I'm

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Speaker 1: just sitting there in my little chair like pretest drive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: anyone has any questions, you know, I'm here to answer.

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Speaker 5: You have like fake certificates in the window of all

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Speaker 5: the shows you've watched.

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Speaker 1: The trophies. Yeah, yeah, no, I've always wanted to do that.

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Speaker 1: I never been left waiting by the phone. It's the

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Speaker 1: Fred Show. Logan, good morning, welcome to the program, Good morning,

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Speaker 1: good morning, and how are we doing? Do it all right? Man?

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Speaker 1: What's going on with this woman? Sylvia? How did you

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Speaker 1: Oh you look way to butter us up here. So

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Speaker 7: We kept it pretty clean, avoided all the hot button notes,

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Speaker 1: So let's see if we can figure out what's going

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Speaker 7: But no, you're saying I'm not trying to king shame,

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Speaker 1: You guys recently went on a date. You met on

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Speaker 1: this Sylvia? Hey Sylvia, good morning. My name is Fred.

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Speaker 1: So we're calling on behalf of a guy named Logan.

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Speaker 1: remember Logan? Yes? I remember Logan? So what happened? Because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Because when the bill came, he asked if if

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Speaker 1: He wanted to split the bill.

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Speaker 2: I was so shocked that he asked me to do that.

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Speaker 2: He said yeah, unless you're coming.

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Speaker 1: Home with me. Oh wow. Wow? He was that specific,

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And he wasn't joking.

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Speaker 3: He was serious because I asked him one more time,

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Speaker 3: then he responded with the same thing again, Yes, unless

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Speaker 1: Home with me. You know, first of all, I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ridiculous. I mean I just paid my mail

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Speaker 1: Oh god. Plus, you're setting yourself up to look like

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Speaker 1: I forgot to mention that logan. This here, logan, I

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Speaker 1: say well but if I get some, I'll pay for it. Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: modern dating rules. It's not my job to feed them

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Speaker 1: thing to do. It's chivalrous, it's it's it's romantic, it's gentlemanly,

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Speaker 7: I'm so sick of women using men as free meal

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Speaker 1: I'll pay for your food that hoga?

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Speaker 7: Let me come on, man, you had the chances to

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Speaker 1: Do anything about it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was a first date.

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Speaker 1: Wow. And maybe if you'd paid, you would have had

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Speaker 7: I mean, I guess I could have been a little

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Speaker 8: But well, men like you don't deserve to date in

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Speaker 8: If you're gonna take the time to invite a woman

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Speaker 2: No you pay for our meals?

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 1: He was right, right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who raised this man, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: There's no even trade, like come on, like, no one

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Speaker 7: Like come on, Wayne Gretzky always said you miss one

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Speaker 1: I'll know what to tell you. Man.

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Speaker 7: You know what this I guess you know everyone's saying

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Speaker 2: What you need more to hear page.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what. I don't know

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Speaker 2: The Judge and the Judge and Ditties, okay up.

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Speaker 3: The judge and Ditty's ongoing federal trial reprimanded both the

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Speaker 3: The judge noted jury deliberation could begin as early as

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot going on. By the way, Fred

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Speaker 1: Wise. I was going to say I don't care about

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Speaker 2: We're still debating, which is scary.

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Speaker 3: Although you made me feel better when you said that,

436
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure where you saw this that the jury

437
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Speaker 3: was asked the judge a question on semantics over if

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Speaker 3: we charge her with the d u I or and

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Speaker 3: ow I or whatever, does that mean that we're charging

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Speaker 3: her with murder?

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Speaker 2: Can they be separate? And so that makes us both

442
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Speaker 2: feel like, you want.

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Speaker 1: To know where I've been. I heard of it. I

444
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Speaker 1: mean I've been in the courtroom every day. When I

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Speaker 1: leave here, I fly to Boston, I go to the courtroom. Yeah. No,

446
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Speaker 1: I'm a courtroom reporter. I am. I am, And so

447
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Speaker 1: that's how I know. But the jury form is messed up,

448
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Speaker 1: it's not clear, and the defense argued, like, the juris

449
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Speaker 1: are going to get confused by this like they did

450
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Speaker 1: in the first case, because it was the same format,

451
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Speaker 1: And of course Aunt BEV was like, no, nope, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: And so the question yesterday, I guess was so at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of all the charges, it was like, I

454
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Speaker 1: think there was murder, manslaughter, a bunch of stuff, bad stuff,

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Speaker 1: and at the very bottom it was essentially d u I.

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Speaker 1: They call it oh ui in Massachusetts, I guess. And

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Speaker 1: they know that she was. They tested her at some

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Speaker 1: point she was point zero nine, so they know that

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Speaker 1: she was drunk. So the question from the jury to

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Speaker 1: the was if we convictor on the OUI charge the

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Speaker 1: least of all the charges. I mean, at this point,

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Speaker 1: she could get you know, manslaughter or OUI, I'll take

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Speaker 1: the driving drunk keeper at this point, And it sounds

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Speaker 1: like she was, of course, So I guess the question was,

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Speaker 1: if we convictor on that, then do we have to

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Speaker 1: convict her on one of the murderer manslaughter charges up

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Speaker 1: top on this cheery form? My so, I'm obviously not

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Speaker 1: in a license attorney currently, but my summation, my guesstimation

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Speaker 1: from that is that if they were going to charge

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Speaker 1: her for murder and manslaughter, they wouldn't care, right about

471
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Speaker 1: you whatever it's like, if you hit her for all

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Speaker 1: of it, whatever it is. But if they're asking if

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Speaker 1: if they convict her on that, if it means the

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Speaker 1: more serious charge, then I have to think that they've

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Speaker 1: already decided that she's innocent of the murder part of

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Speaker 1: it those Otherwise it would be like, well, just who cares?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: If we can victor her a murder of manslaughter, then

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Speaker 1: who cares?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 1: But they don't. I certainly they don't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: I hope that's the case. I also wonder and if

483
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Speaker 2: you know the answer, Texas if you can.

484
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Speaker 3: Legally go after a judge, because if I'm her legal team,

485
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Speaker 3: I'm like, we need a new judge for this retrial,

486
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: There's clear ties to one side and that's not fair.

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Speaker 1: So the other interesting tib on BEV.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're done with on BEV.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Another interesting tidbit is that I saw on the

492
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Speaker 1: internet and a lawyer friend of my pointed this out.

493
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Speaker 1: Is when when the jury sent the note to the

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Speaker 1: judge asked the question, they referred to her as Karen,

495
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Speaker 1: not as the defendant or misread, which, apparently from the

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Speaker 1: defense standpoint, means that they like, that's a good sign,

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Speaker 1: Like they identify with her as a human, like to

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Speaker 1: call her by her first name. It's not like I

499
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Speaker 1: guess if they psychologically, if they thought she was a criminal,

500
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Speaker 1: they might refer to her as something less or more formal. Right,

501
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: But the fact that they're hey, Karen, it's almost like

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Speaker 1: that's my friend, or like we have some kind of

503
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Speaker 1: a connection or whatever. Now that could be, that could

504
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Speaker 1: mean nothing, but a lot of the people who were

505
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Speaker 1: speculating online yesterday were saying that's a really good sign.

506
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Speaker 1: There's like a human aspect to this.

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Speaker 2: I just don't like that it's taking so long, because.

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Speaker 1: I would think if I were going to convict someone

509
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Speaker 1: of murder, I would, honestly, psychologically, I would try and

510
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Speaker 1: dehumanize my I that would be a very difficult thing

511
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Speaker 1: to say, like you're going to go to jail with

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Speaker 1: the rest of your life. And even if you did it,

513
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Speaker 1: and I think you did it, that I'm responsible for that.

514
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: So I think the people tend to jurys tend to

515
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Speaker 1: dehumanize the defense because it's like, well, you're not a

516
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Speaker 1: real person anymore because you're a murderer. But in this case,

517
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Speaker 1: it was Karen, Okay, some decent thing. I think today.

518
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Speaker 1: I think today, by lunch, I'm.

519
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Speaker 2: Done trusting you, trust me waiting every day every day.

520
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Speaker 1: Today, by lunch, it's over. She's going to get charged

521
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Speaker 1: with the OUI and she's going to get off on

522
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Speaker 1: the other stuff. Right, That's right, that's what I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think she did it. I don't think she

524
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Speaker 1: did it, And if for some reason she did do it,

525
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Speaker 1: she doesn't know she did it. I really believe that, right,

526
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't on purpose.

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Speaker 3: In sadly, his life is already gone, and now we're

528
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Speaker 3: going to ruin somebody else's life.

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Speaker 2: Which is all the whole thing's awful, it's tragic, it's

530
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Speaker 2: very trific.

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Speaker 1: It's adults making irresponsible decisions as a whole. Why are

532
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Speaker 1: we not talking about the cops that were driving drunk

533
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 1: that night? Right? They're all the bar together because.

534
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Speaker 2: They didn't get breathalyzed, so I can't prove it. And

535
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Speaker 2: really quick, you.

536
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Speaker 3: Know how everyone's been making those Mount Rushmore's, you know,

537
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 3: their Mount Rushmore of this of that. Well, someone made

538
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Speaker 3: a mount Rushmore of celebrities with no haters, and I

539
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Speaker 3: want to hear what you guys think about this. So

540
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Speaker 3: they put Jackie Chan, Keanu Reeves, John Cena, and Steve

541
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Speaker 3: Irwin up on theirs, which I pretty much I agree

542
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Speaker 3: with all of those, but I think we need a

543
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Speaker 3: lady or two on there, so I would add or

544
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Speaker 3: vote miss Betty White or Miss Dolly Parton. I think

545
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Speaker 3: they would be on my Celebrity with No Haters. Tom

546
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Speaker 3: Hanks maybe would be a good one, but it was

547
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Speaker 3: just fun to think about.

548
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true there are some out there. It's hard

549
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Speaker 1: to standing bad about them.

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Speaker 3: Very few, by the way, if you want to enhance

551
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Speaker 3: your listening experience to more than just your ear holes.

552
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Speaker 3: If you want to go to your eye holes, you

553
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Speaker 3: can go on YouTube and find the Fred Show and

554
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: you can watch us live.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yet, very excited about this so exciting directorial debut.

556
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Speaker 1: They cussed me out when when I do this, but

557
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Speaker 1: we're innning late, So show be Shelley, show be Shelle

558
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Speaker 1: cusses me out. My fault show is Shelley. Yeah, you're

559
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: always cussing me out whenever it's late. You know, the

560
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: showdown's late. It's like we get off the air and

561
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Speaker 1: it's like my phone rings. I have to go on

562
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Speaker 1: the hallway and it's just Shelley. I mean just people

563
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: can hear it down the hall She's so mad because

564
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Speaker 1: you get dialed in. You you're warmed up, you know,

565
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: you've stretched in everything, and then it's like you gotta

566
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Speaker 1: wait at a fifteen minutes, I.

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Speaker 2: Know, I know, Well, let's just get to it ten

568
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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah.

569
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Speaker 1: Right exactly. That's that's what they always say to me.

570
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Speaker 1: Can you get to it? Can you hurry out? Yeah? Honestly,

571
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: like it's been a while. Eight five. If you want

572
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Speaker 1: to take out shop Shelley on Game Show Wednesday. In

573
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Speaker 1: the showdown, nine to fifty is the prize, Shelley, You're

574
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Speaker 1: working overtime, so hang on a minute. Where is it

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Speaker 1: okay to stay right there? If you'd like to take

576
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Speaker 1: her on call now, we'll do definitely gonna be pulling

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Speaker 1: him and Pride themed yea yokiky karaoke. Oh more Fred

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