Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. My friend is
Speaker 1: here and I'm super excited.
Speaker 2: I'm excited too.
Speaker 1: Teresa Judais. Oh my gosh, I love.
Speaker 2: You, thank you. This is so surreal. I mean I
Speaker 2: watched you, you know, I watched you growing up, and
Speaker 2: it's like so crazy for us to be in the
Speaker 2: same room doing a podcast together, Like I love that,
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And I've watched you my kids growing up. So there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but here you are on the West Coast, and I'm
Speaker 1: very excited.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. I think we're the same age, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, are younger than me.
Speaker 2: I'm how old are you?
Speaker 1: Oh my mayor can google this shit, I'm.
Speaker 2: Fifty I'm fifty one, what so? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What so? Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's like I remember watching your birthday. My birthday's
Speaker 2: May eighteen, so I'm going to be fifty two.
Speaker 1: Wait, my birthday's May sixteen.
Speaker 2: Is say that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this friendship all makes sense?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, see that that's wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to be fifty one and you started TV?
Speaker 2: How old are you?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, well, I mean since I was born,
Speaker 1: like came out of you to row on TV. Fifteen.
Speaker 1: I did the pilot.
Speaker 2: See you started younger. I started later. It's so funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Real Housewives of New Jersey season fourteen, Yes
Speaker 1: is insane. Okay, So they got like the good part
Speaker 1: of you the world.
Speaker 2: I mean, thank you. I started out that way and
Speaker 2: then after, you know, then it's like everyone always comes
Speaker 2: for Teresa.
Speaker 1: They really do. Yeah, you're the og. Yes, we're both ogs.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like I can't imagine the show without you.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how you hold it together, to
Speaker 1: be like the.
Speaker 2: Glue, the glue that holds it all together. Maybe the goddess.
Speaker 1: Queen queen.
Speaker 2: Yeah they like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are the Queen.
Speaker 2: I never like to say that about myself, you know,
Speaker 2: like I'm not that person. But yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: did start the show, So thank you. I did start
Speaker 2: the show. And so yeah I am the OJ. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's been you know, I've been through rollercoaster, lots of
Speaker 2: ups and downs. Yeah. So and I've shown it. I've
Speaker 2: shown it all. Like what you see is what you get.
Speaker 2: I'm real as they come.
Speaker 1: You really are so because I know her aside from
Speaker 1: watching her, and she really is like we so before
Speaker 1: we started the podcast, we saw each other downstairs and
Speaker 1: immediately we're like, what's going on? And you were on
Speaker 1: the phone with your daughter and she was buying a bird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Milania called me and Malani's like, Matt, can I
Speaker 2: get a bird? And I thought she just was asking me,
Speaker 2: like I figured she was in school, She's just asking me.
Speaker 2: And then she facetimes me and you saw she was
Speaker 2: at the pet store. She was there, So she was
Speaker 2: at the pet store and she's like, can I buy
Speaker 2: a bird? And I'm like, we have four dogs. I mean,
Speaker 2: we don't eat a bird. You know, I had birds
Speaker 2: growing up. They're really messy.
Speaker 1: So oh you did have birds?
Speaker 2: Yes, I did have. I hadoots and they're really loud. Yes,
Speaker 2: and they make a mess. Yeah, bird food all over
Speaker 2: the floor. So I just told her, like, you know
Speaker 2: what make a mess? Yeah, and make a mess. Yes, yeah, birds,
Speaker 2: that's a hard thing. But I promptly told her she
Speaker 2: should go ahead. And I know You're like, just tell
Speaker 2: her to get the bird. I'm like, no, Tori, you
Speaker 2: have four dogs, sollo oh no, no, I like what
Speaker 2: you said. You said because you have four dogs, You're
Speaker 2: like the birds could have heart attacks. From the dogs barking,
Speaker 2: So I liked it. That's a good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I winked at you. But that's actually
Speaker 1: a true story.
Speaker 2: That is.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I got a bird once at a pet store
Speaker 1: and it was pink, so I of course was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's cute. I have to get this bird. And I
Speaker 1: got it and took it home, and then my dog
Speaker 1: barked and it was in It was called Rosie because
Speaker 1: I was super.
Speaker 2: One of my dogs is the real Rosy. It's so cute.
Speaker 2: See that. We have another thing in comedy there.
Speaker 1: Let's just keep satting up. But the dog barked and
Speaker 1: Rosie literally went I just fell hit the bottom of
Speaker 1: the cage, and we're like what, oh my god, oh
Speaker 1: my god, oh sad.
Speaker 2: And I thought about another thing. Both of her name
Speaker 2: starts with tea.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, like, what's your nickname?
Speaker 2: Got up Tea? Like in high school was sweet Tea? Yeah,
Speaker 2: in high school was sweet Tea. Tray. A lot of
Speaker 2: people call me tree. That's what my ex used to
Speaker 2: call me, Tray. My fans are called tree huggers.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yes, I saw Kay Hoover from Access Hollywood. She goes this,
Speaker 2: what are your fans called my fans are called you
Speaker 2: know tree. I'm like, what do you mean and she's like,
Speaker 2: what are they? I'm like tree huggers. She's like yes,
Speaker 2: She's like, you don't even know what they were calling
Speaker 2: me on Instagram because one time I walked off her
Speaker 2: show and like this was years ago and she's talked
Speaker 2: about something I didn't want to talk about. So I
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I'm not take and I just
Speaker 2: walked off. She's like, you don't understand. She's like, your
Speaker 2: fans came for me. She said she was called see
Speaker 2: you next Tuesday. I was like, oh my god. I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm so sorry. She's like, no, it's not
Speaker 2: your fault. She's like, it was your fans, your tree
Speaker 2: huggers that were coming after me. Saying that. So yesterday
Speaker 2: I was on her show, her and Mario and she's like,
Speaker 2: can we take can we take a video? I want
Speaker 2: to tell your fans that we've made up. I'm like sure,
Speaker 2: so everyone, I just want you guys to know me
Speaker 2: Kit Hoover made up. So thank you, my tree huggers.
Speaker 2: Love love, love you guys. You're amazing. Thanks for all
Speaker 2: your love and support. It means the world to me.
Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, I love you tree hugger. Wait, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I bought tree huggers something else.
Speaker 2: Oh what did you think they meant environmentally? Yeah, my
Speaker 2: ants call themselves three huggers, which I love. It's that's
Speaker 2: my nickname.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yes, I love that too.
Speaker 1: What does Louie call you?
Speaker 2: He called sometimes he calls me babe. Sometimes you know,
Speaker 2: tea my love. Yeah, I have a.
Speaker 1: Question for you. Yes, did you feel like, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you've been through a divorce, you're remarried. Did you
Speaker 1: feel like there was a nickname that you and Joe
Speaker 1: had that when you got together with Louis, you were like,
Speaker 1: we can't call each other that because that was our name.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I called everyone honey. I think I used
Speaker 2: to say a lot, even to Joe, So trying not
Speaker 2: to say it to Louis. I mean, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think what I call Louie Like, I just say him
Speaker 2: my love. I always say, you know, sweetheart.
Speaker 1: I love that. And now he lives here, well he's
Speaker 1: he's working here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So we were just talking. We're going I'm
Speaker 2: going back and forth.
Speaker 1: That you're becoming by coastal.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm going to be spending a lot more
Speaker 2: time out here, so yes, we can hang out more.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited.
Speaker 1: It makes me so happy because I feel like so
Speaker 1: I'm terrified of flying, so I don't go to the
Speaker 1: East coast a lot. Okay, but I actually I mean
Speaker 1: I would come there for you.
Speaker 2: I would love that. Yeah, I mean we got to
Speaker 2: get you. You need to be a housewife of Beverly
Speaker 2: Hills and then we could do watch What Happens Live
Speaker 2: to Jersey. I would I mean you want to move
Speaker 2: to Jersey? Yes, I would love you. You wouldn't meet
Speaker 2: on the show together. We would be badasses. Yes, we
Speaker 2: would so survive. No, you would survive.
Speaker 1: Because you would have my back.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I would have your bath. Oh way to
Speaker 2: like this idea?
Speaker 1: Ok? Yes? Yeah, I pretend to be like timided and
Speaker 1: like shy, but like I feel like I'm a baller,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I could like go for it.
Speaker 2: I thank so I've seen you in action, but I
Speaker 2: can't say now, guys, we have a surprise coming up
Speaker 2: Tori and I, but we can't really say. But I
Speaker 2: did see you in action, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: whoa you are hot and spicy.
Speaker 1: I know. I was like, I can't remember she's subscribing
Speaker 1: to my private early Family remember she did so she exactly.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I was like, Wow, that's Tory sexy and hot. Wow,
Speaker 2: really turning me on what? Yes, yeah, we can't talk
Speaker 2: about it. We did, but this sounds really and it's
Speaker 2: like not, you know what, But I'm gonna We're gonna
Speaker 2: keep talking.
Speaker 1: We're going to do many things.
Speaker 2: Yes we are.
Speaker 1: What's going on in the.
Speaker 2: Podcast world, Well, I'm not doing no stay bitches anymore.
Speaker 2: Melissa and I you know, we decided to go our
Speaker 2: separate ways.
Speaker 1: Understood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's having another baby, so she's focusing on her family.
Speaker 2: I'm focusing on mine and like now going back and
Speaker 2: forth to La. But I have a big surprise coming up,
Speaker 2: so I can't wait to tell everyone.
Speaker 1: If I were to be your manager, I would just say,
Speaker 1: like I you should have your your own.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you. I like the sound of that from
Speaker 2: your lips to God's ears. Okay, yeah, thank you? Are
Speaker 2: you there?
Speaker 1: God? It's me Tori.
Speaker 2: She needs her own What would would what do you
Speaker 2: think I should name it?
Speaker 1: Mm hm, Oh my gosh. Now you're putting me on
Speaker 1: the okay, never mind, no, no, no, I'll get back
Speaker 1: to you on that one. Okay, drive me crazy. So
Speaker 1: they gave a preview of the entire season, and it's
Speaker 1: like it looks insane in a good way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, listen, it looks insane. It does
Speaker 2: look it's like it's it gets it's very toxic. It's toxic.
Speaker 2: I mean, hello, yeah you watched it, watch like the ending, theally,
Speaker 2: all of it.
Speaker 1: Oh but like good and bad, like it just all works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, like I'm talking about your life, like it's not
Speaker 1: your life, but we're kind of in the same boat.
Speaker 1: So it's okay, right, because people talk about our lives,
Speaker 1: they know our lives, they think they know us, right,
Speaker 1: and you have your tree huggers, But I'm sure you
Speaker 1: also have people that are just like, why are you
Speaker 1: putting it all out there? Yes, when you started putting
Speaker 1: it all out there, did it feel free at all?
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I guess I didn't even think of
Speaker 2: it that way like when I did it. Like first
Speaker 2: of all, when I first got on the show, I mean,
Speaker 2: how this all came to me. It just came to me,
Speaker 2: like I wouldn't go looking for it. Like these producers went,
Speaker 2: wht me tell you a story. Yeah, yeah, these producers
Speaker 2: went to the salon in Franklin Lakes and then so
Speaker 2: they were asking, you know, for like beautiful women with
Speaker 2: beautiful homes, like over the type lifestyles. So the owner
Speaker 2: of the salon recommended Dina and Jacqueline. They were regulars
Speaker 2: at that salai. So then Dina, you know, so they
Speaker 2: spoke to the producers. You know, they spoke to Dina
Speaker 2: and Jacqueline and they love them. And then they asked them,
Speaker 2: can you recommend any other you know, women for the
Speaker 2: you know, for the show that we're doing. And at
Speaker 2: the time, I think they were going to call it
Speaker 2: Jersey Mom, so it wasn't New Jersey Housewives. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: then Dina recommended me. So then that's how I got on,
Speaker 2: and and then I spoke to the producer everyone else,
Speaker 2: and then Jacqueline recommended Caroline. And then Danielle was a
Speaker 2: regular at that salon, and then Dina said to Jacqueline,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe we should recommend Danielle, but let's get
Speaker 2: to know her first. And then I think Danielle told
Speaker 2: the producers about Danielle and they intributed her. They loved her,
Speaker 2: you know, because she was you know, she made good TV.
Speaker 2: And then with me, they all signed the contract right away.
Speaker 2: They all signed the contract like that they were ready
Speaker 2: to do the show. Guess how long it took me
Speaker 2: to sign the contract along around almost a year, like
Speaker 2: eleven months. Yeah, because I didn't know what I was
Speaker 2: getting myself into, Tori. I was like, I kept asking Joe.
Speaker 2: I was like should I do this? Should I not
Speaker 2: do It's like, what is this? I just wasn't sure.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is this? I didn't understand it. And
Speaker 2: then one day Jacqueline's like, come on, let's just do
Speaker 2: this together. We'll have so much fun and let's just
Speaker 2: and then I just signed a contract in front of Jacqueline,
Speaker 2: not even with the lawyer, and gave it to Jackeline.
Speaker 2: She put it in the fed xbox and that was it.
Speaker 1: Wait, we just talked to your lawyer before this.
Speaker 2: And yeah, this is my lawyer for the past ten years. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I met him when I was going away because I
Speaker 2: was going away and then I was trying to do
Speaker 2: a twenty two fifty five.
Speaker 1: That's like, I'm not that smart, right, it's.
Speaker 2: Called the twenty two fifty five to try to to
Speaker 2: try to keep you out of prison. Oh no, I
Speaker 2: was already I think going to prison twenty fifty five maybe.
Speaker 1: To get out earlier for my future.
Speaker 2: Like I think it's okay because I was I met him,
Speaker 2: I was already going to prison. And then not that
Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk about this, but I will
Speaker 2: tell you when I met Jim, and then I was
Speaker 2: going to do a twenty two fifty five to try
Speaker 2: to reduce my sentence, and it was like, yeah, it
Speaker 2: was it's hard to do that. So then that's how
Speaker 2: I met him, and that's how he came into my life.
Speaker 2: And that was it.
Speaker 1: So I can't believe. What if you hadn't signed that contract.
Speaker 2: I know, if I didn't sign that contract, I would
Speaker 2: still be a housewife. Just you know, I was just
Speaker 2: home taking care of my kids. That's it. Like you
Speaker 2: know I used to go to Naven Marcus for lunch
Speaker 2: every day. Yeah, I used to do stuff like that,
Speaker 2: like take the girls shopping like all that. I knew
Speaker 2: everybody and even Marcus in the makeup area in Norse Stroums,
Speaker 2: like I used to walk through. Everyone knew the girls. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was so cute.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting to me, just because I think you're
Speaker 1: so smart and so savvy and just the way you
Speaker 1: handle things.
Speaker 2: Before, Like I had gya, I was. I was in
Speaker 2: the buying industry. I was. I was a buyer at
Speaker 2: a Macy's and then I went on the other side.
Speaker 2: I was a sales rep and then I was selling
Speaker 2: to the department stores.
Speaker 1: Because you have great taste.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like as my backgrounds fashion, I went to school
Speaker 2: for fashion, but I.
Speaker 1: Mean The Housewives has been such a great platform to
Speaker 1: be able to do. Yes, so many business operations I came,
Speaker 1: you know. I wrote four cookbooks, two memoirs. I had
Speaker 1: a lot of like brand deals.
Speaker 2: I did commercials. Yeah, so it's a lot of different shows.
Speaker 2: I did Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, oh wait, talk
Speaker 2: to me about Dancing with the Stars. First, it was
Speaker 2: so hard because I'm not a dancer, Like, I have
Speaker 2: no dancing background at all. So it was like I
Speaker 2: had a start from scratch, but I had fun doing it.
Speaker 2: My instructor, his name was Pasha. He was Ariana Maddox's
Speaker 2: partner as she just had so he would fly to
Speaker 2: New Jersey. We would we would rehearse all week and
Speaker 2: then we would fly back to you know, to compete.
Speaker 1: How many hours a day did you train?
Speaker 2: It was a lot, Yeah, it was a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a lot. So it's did you ever do it?
Speaker 1: I haven't done it?
Speaker 2: Oh you should do it. Oh okay, we got to
Speaker 2: put that out there. Dancing with the stars. You gotta
Speaker 2: have toy spelling on.
Speaker 1: I've been asked before and I turned it down because
Speaker 1: I was scared. It was just it was fear. I
Speaker 1: love dancing too.
Speaker 2: And if you love dancing, and you'll be good at it.
Speaker 1: Here's my only reservation is I feel like I'm a
Speaker 1: great dancer after like two plus glasses of one, and
Speaker 1: I've got mad rhythm. But and I've done TV shows
Speaker 1: and movies where I've had to do learn choreography. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I can't take direction. Like that's the thing
Speaker 1: you want me to freestyle flying splits. I could do it,
Speaker 1: like I'll show you later. But yeah, like you're like
Speaker 1: and step one, two three, I'm like, huh, Yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Was a lot to remember, Like yeah, and you had
Speaker 2: to count in your head and all that, and like
Speaker 2: I get distracted very easily. Same and yeah, and you know,
Speaker 2: it was live, so it's like yes. And then they're
Speaker 2: like telling me, well, don't look at the screen, and
Speaker 2: I'm like what Like so it's like the littlest things.
Speaker 2: I mean, like yeah, or if I would look at something,
Speaker 2: I would get distracted. Yeah, so you write on it,
Speaker 2: so thank you. Yeah, No, it was good, listen. It
Speaker 2: was a great opportunity. I was happy I did it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it was fun.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what's next?
Speaker 2: Well, How the Villains?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: How Villains?
Speaker 1: But I meant like the world is your oyster?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Wow? How the Villains? Season two?
Speaker 2: Well? Now now season fourteen's playing now right, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure when How Civillains is coming up, but they did
Speaker 2: announce it that I'm going to be on the cast.
Speaker 1: So so I was obsessed with season one of House
Speaker 1: of Villains, and when they announced it, I was really
Speaker 1: excited that you were going.
Speaker 2: To do it. Well at first, toy, let me tell you.
Speaker 2: When I I was like.
Speaker 1: You didn't want to sign the contract, I didn't like
Speaker 1: the name.
Speaker 2: I was like yeah, I was like, I was like
Speaker 2: when I heard it, I'm like House, I'm like a villain.
Speaker 2: I'm not a villain, you know, That's how I took
Speaker 2: it as I was like, I wasn't sure if I
Speaker 2: wanted to do it because of the name. And then
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful that I did it now because I
Speaker 2: feel like everyone is going to really see the real Teresa.
Speaker 2: So it's going to it's different than Housewives.
Speaker 1: It's good to see you in a different yeah element, yeah,
Speaker 1: different elements unscripted. I feel like now being fifty almost
Speaker 1: fifty one and going through a divorce and like it's
Speaker 1: the second chapter. Everyone keeps calling it the second chapter,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh my god, it's my halftime show, right,
Speaker 1: second chapter. I feel like I'm starting to be like
Speaker 1: everyone's so focused on the definition of certain words and
Speaker 1: house of villains, and when they announced that you were
Speaker 1: on it, I was like, and then I thought, but
Speaker 1: you have to redefine things like villains, Like you can
Speaker 1: be the villain in your own fairy tale, but you're
Speaker 1: also the princess.
Speaker 2: You're right, And I mean, listen, I do turn into
Speaker 2: a villain when you come for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna sit over here.
Speaker 2: Then yeah no, but that's you know, and I guess
Speaker 2: that's because I did flip the table on my show
Speaker 2: and like, so you know, I do get to that level,
Speaker 2: but only if you piss me off. You know, only
Speaker 2: you know if you poke the bear, if you poke
Speaker 2: the bear. Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: You're the hottest bear I've ever seen that. We fans
Speaker 1: ever do they drunk at restaurants were like Theresa Teresa,
Speaker 1: and like flip tables for you.
Speaker 2: Yes, sometimes they may literally, well they don't flip tables
Speaker 2: for me, but they're like, can you flip the table?
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, I want to just do a few. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I came up.
Speaker 1: Wait, I feel like that's a business all in itself.
Speaker 1: You know how there's cameo. Are you on cameo?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: I you could flip a table and you can charge
Speaker 1: like underground.
Speaker 2: So barely keep flipping the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Oh my gosh, like imagine that.
Speaker 2: Wait, I just got a cameo request that it's so funny.
Speaker 2: All right, Well on the show, I said to see
Speaker 2: word like a million times and they want me to
Speaker 2: say it, and I'm like, oh my god, I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's appropriate me saying it in the cameo.
Speaker 2: Did you huh? Did you say it? I didn't say
Speaker 2: yet I just got the request.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean technically that's like a business, not a
Speaker 1: personal one, so you get more money for that.
Speaker 2: Now that's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I look at it. But I feel
Speaker 1: like under they have like listings, like you can have
Speaker 1: someone like people always want me to say Dona Martin
Speaker 1: graduates and I fine, but I feel like, yeah, like
Speaker 1: table flipping that that would be pricey.
Speaker 2: I mean everywhere I go they love that. They always
Speaker 2: really they always want me to reenact it, like meaning
Speaker 2: like on commercials like I did. I did. I did
Speaker 2: two super Bowl commercials. I re enacted on there oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Drew Barrymore show, Oh yeah, with her so many places. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I did it at Bravocon. The first Bravocon I flipped
Speaker 2: the table and the last one too, you know, the
Speaker 2: first one I really flipped it. I think last year
Speaker 2: it was like an oh no, I did flip it too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they told me to flip it. It's really messy, you know,
Speaker 2: to flip the table.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well I always wanted to do it. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean from watching it. It's so funny because you
Speaker 1: always have that thing that people like define you by.
Speaker 1: And I to be honest, with you. I was always
Speaker 1: like a real Housewives of Beverly Hills because I think
Speaker 1: that's how I grew up, right, So obviously obviously I
Speaker 1: watched New Jersey, but it wasn't like my top one
Speaker 1: because like I was always like, oh, West Coast, like
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, Like I just wanted to have a piece
Speaker 1: you live, right, Yeah, that's where I grew up. And
Speaker 1: I was just like, why, why the fuck am I
Speaker 1: not on this?
Speaker 2: So I hadn't.
Speaker 1: It was research to be like Andy, I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Now, Andy, we gotta get toy spelling to be a
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills housewife.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like I got to know you
Speaker 1: a different way. So that's not even how I think
Speaker 1: of you, like, oh, she flips tables like I just
Speaker 1: You've always been so lovely and approachable and kind and funny.
Speaker 2: And I think I met you first time I Bravo
Speaker 2: up front we did, I think, yeah, a long time ago. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember in La. Remember it was in La. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember, and I was just like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: that's Tory. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, it's it's so funny,
Speaker 1: Like I don't I've met a lot of people. And
Speaker 1: I don't fangirl out on any like actresses or actors
Speaker 1: or I mean maybe Brad Pitt, but like but Ryan Gosling, God,
Speaker 1: I love him. Which Ryan do you like? Ryan Reynolds
Speaker 1: or Ryan Gosling? Ryan Gosling? He played Ken And that's
Speaker 1: how the current people like the kids know. But for us,
Speaker 1: it would be the notebook.
Speaker 2: Oh that one.
Speaker 1: I think Reynolds for me, huh, first, first thing we
Speaker 1: don't have in common.
Speaker 2: So then we could hang out because okay, right, so
Speaker 2: then like, yeah, we wouldn't go for the same guy.
Speaker 1: But so I've always had a thing for him. I
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, and I'm not even like.
Speaker 2: That is single. No.
Speaker 1: Eva Mendez is his wife, who was like a big
Speaker 1: He's beautiful.
Speaker 2: My sister in law looks like her Louis sister.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So did you have a party trick
Speaker 1: when you were young and single?
Speaker 2: A party trick?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: No? You know, I Tori. I grew up with strict
Speaker 2: Italian parents. I didn't go to parties growing up. I
Speaker 2: didn't like my kids go to parties every weekend. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I wish I got to do that when I was
Speaker 2: your age. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't get to go.
Speaker 2: I was always home, Like I would go to one
Speaker 2: of my girlfriend's house, that's it, and come home or
Speaker 2: they usually my mother always wanted them to come to
Speaker 2: our house. She was that type of mother. Yeah, my
Speaker 2: parents are off the boat on first generation. So I
Speaker 2: had had had a curfet until I got married. What yeah,
Speaker 2: wait you got married at what age twenty seven? What? Yeah? Yes,
Speaker 2: I was not allowed to see by my boyfriend's house
Speaker 2: or my fiance's house. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, each why am I chill?
Speaker 2: Was not allowed to go on vacation with him? Like
Speaker 2: I could go on vacation with my friends, but not
Speaker 2: with my boyfriend or fiance because you know that means
Speaker 2: we would have sex, you know. So yeah I was.
Speaker 2: I was no, No, this is why.
Speaker 1: And then you ended up with four.
Speaker 2: Daughters after I got married.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's why you had so many. See what
Speaker 1: they say, everything in moderation, and he keeps something from someone,
Speaker 1: then you know they want it more. So before we
Speaker 1: started the show, You're a lawyer and I were talking
Speaker 1: and you and he was like, oh my god. She
Speaker 1: was like the Donna Martin And I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, so now it's all making sense. You were
Speaker 1: the good girl, but because you had to be the
Speaker 1: good girl, that's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: So Donna Martin was the virgin on the show, which
Speaker 1: in hindsight, it was my dad's show he created. He
Speaker 1: probably was like everyone was making out now and sex.
Speaker 1: He was probably like, I don't want my daughter. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the reason. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: a virgin on that show that dressed like a whore.
Speaker 1: Like it was like, how was that? Okay?
Speaker 2: Like that's and my you know, my father used to
Speaker 2: tell me, like he used to tell me like that
Speaker 2: he was going to take me to the doctors the
Speaker 2: day before I got married to make sure I was
Speaker 2: still a virgin. Oh my god, yes, no swear, I
Speaker 2: swear to god, I swear. So yeah. Yeah, So I
Speaker 2: was terrified of like my parents, like I grew like
Speaker 2: I was that type of kid like my father, Like
Speaker 2: I remember when I was growing up, like I was
Speaker 2: not allowed to cry, Like, you know, if I started crying,
Speaker 2: he'd be like, no cry, like if he was yelling
Speaker 2: at me, and then I couldn't don't cry. I don't
Speaker 2: know he just because you know what, when I cried,
Speaker 2: it would make him upset, so he like, you know,
Speaker 2: so if he yelled at me, if I did someth wrong,
Speaker 2: like I was not allowed to cry, and he like,
Speaker 2: sometimes he would yell at me, and he would scare
Speaker 2: me so much I would pee in my parents. Like
Speaker 2: that's how much I had fear in me because of
Speaker 2: my dad. So that's why I was always a good
Speaker 2: kid and never did drugs. Always was a good kid
Speaker 2: because I never wanted to disappoint my parents and for
Speaker 2: I was terrified of my parents. So yeah, and they
Speaker 2: put fear in me, which I guess it was a
Speaker 2: good thing because I never did anything bad, you know,
Speaker 2: I did. I was a good kid.
Speaker 1: And now you just flip tables. Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: all comes out eventually.
Speaker 2: This is the thing, you know. I You know, my
Speaker 2: father did raise a strong, you know, tough you know
Speaker 2: Italian girl that doesn't take any ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you grow up because of that feeling like crying
Speaker 1: and showing emotion was a sign of weakness?
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, So it takes a lot for me to cry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it does take a lot for me to cry. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't like crying either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just yeah. I mean, but crying is okay,
Speaker 2: you know, it's okay, but like, yeah, it takes a
Speaker 2: lot for me to cry.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I don't drink water, so I'm really dehydrated.
Speaker 1: So anytime I cry, like I'm losing more fluids and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, there it goes.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It's it's odd. My parents were really strict. Like I
Speaker 1: was the girl, like I was on like a hit show,
Speaker 1: but I still had a curfew and like couldn't go
Speaker 1: out and had to be home by eleven thirty. And
Speaker 1: I would drop all my friends off at like what
Speaker 1: do they call them now? It was raves back then,
Speaker 1: but like after hours or whatever. I don't know. Nope,
Speaker 1: I'm sure my age.
Speaker 2: No. But see your dad, he was okay with you
Speaker 2: dressing like that. Yeah, that's the odd part. See. I
Speaker 2: would if I would wear a short skirt and I
Speaker 2: was going to a club, like sometimes, he would go
Speaker 2: make me change so I have to bring my clothes
Speaker 2: in the car and change in the car.
Speaker 1: Of course he was like yeah, he was like, I
Speaker 1: would have like a skimpy outfit on underneath and wear
Speaker 1: something else over it, and then yeah, yeah I remember,
Speaker 1: And then I but my mom always waited up for me.
Speaker 2: She was like in the kitchen, like I was the
Speaker 2: type of like my you know, the club start pumping
Speaker 2: at twelve o'clock at New York, so I would get
Speaker 2: there at twelve. I would only be able to say
Speaker 2: one hour because my curfew was I had to be
Speaker 2: home at ch I think. And then my latest curfew
Speaker 2: was two thirty.
Speaker 1: And this is when you were like twenty six, when.
Speaker 2: I was twenty seven. Yes, that was my latest because
Speaker 2: like every year they would go up like a half hour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in your twenties. So you turn twenty one and
Speaker 1: they were like you still.
Speaker 2: Have I remember my curfey for the longest time was
Speaker 2: one thirty. So I would get to the club at twelve,
Speaker 2: stay one hour, and then I would try to get
Speaker 2: home by like one thirty. And sometimes I'd get home
Speaker 2: and then my father would be waiting up for me.
Speaker 2: I would yeah, or sometimes I would make up story
Speaker 2: I got a flat tire and You'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: sure you like knowing that I'm like flying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course when you're that girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one time he was waiting outside for me,
Speaker 2: I was I would make my brother cover for me.
Speaker 2: Sometimes so, but it was rough. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to be like that with my kids
Speaker 2: because I wasn't doing anything wrong, you know. I was like,
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know what you have that that
Speaker 2: your childhood. You should have fun, You should go to clubs,
Speaker 2: experience like I never I never went to a diner
Speaker 2: after a club. You know, you go to a diner
Speaker 2: a club like I never did that. But I wasn't
Speaker 2: allowed to have sleepovers because my father they didn't want
Speaker 2: he's like they would they would put fear in me,
Speaker 2: like no the father or the brother could touch you,
Speaker 2: God forbid, Like it was that kind of yeah. So
Speaker 2: and then I didn't gee Am my first oldest, she
Speaker 2: was not allowed to have sleepovers. And then when all
Speaker 2: the legal stuff happened, that's when when I came home,
Speaker 2: I was I let my kids have sleepovers because I
Speaker 2: was just like, you know, I wanted I felt bad,
Speaker 2: like you know, because of everything that they've gone through,
Speaker 2: so I wanted to give them. I just wanted to
Speaker 2: make them happy in every which way. So then they
Speaker 2: started to have sleepovers. But I used to always put
Speaker 2: the fear in them, like if they have a brother,
Speaker 2: like be careful, like you know, if the father comes near,
Speaker 2: you make sure you push you you tell mommy right away.
Speaker 2: Because whatever my parents told me, I, you know, passed
Speaker 2: down to my kids.
Speaker 1: This is crazy, like I I mean, we grew up
Speaker 1: drastically different obviously, but I same thing, like the same.
Speaker 1: I wasn't ever allowed to sleep out my entire childhood.
Speaker 1: I get a friend sleepover, I wasn't allowed to same, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it had to be my house. I wasn't allowed to
Speaker 1: go to camp.
Speaker 2: Oh camp, Yeah know what. My Italians don't believe in camp.
Speaker 1: Really, I know you do end up like you said.
Speaker 2: So, my parents didn't believe in camp, you.
Speaker 1: Know, no, and my dad I'd be like why well,
Speaker 1: I was like they did. Let me see. Here's the
Speaker 1: odd part is they were so strict and like everything
Speaker 1: is started. You couldn't have a sleepover, you couldn't do this.
Speaker 1: But I was allowed to watch horror films starting at
Speaker 1: like age four, and like the most gruesome things. So
Speaker 1: I was like obsessed with do you like horror? You
Speaker 1: don't like horror films?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just scared.
Speaker 1: It was my only form of like something exhilarating. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, my god, pay the thirteen everyone dies,
Speaker 1: it's sleep by camp. I want to go. Not that
Speaker 1: I want to die. I wanted to be like the
Speaker 1: one that survived. But I said to my dad one
Speaker 1: year and I was like, my friends are making fun
Speaker 1: of me, Like why am I not allowed to go
Speaker 1: to camp? And he said, because I'd miss you too
Speaker 1: much if you were away. And I believe that. I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2: Like what but that's cute. I was cute. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was very ry to protect you, you know. But my
Speaker 2: thing is is I feel like you should experience stuff
Speaker 2: like that, you know, and and like listen, you know,
Speaker 2: I talk to my daughters all the time and tell them,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, you know. Of course, you know,
Speaker 2: we preach to them like just how you should be,
Speaker 2: this is what you should do, this is what you
Speaker 2: shouldn't do. So I mean, you just hope for the best.
Speaker 2: But I feel like, you know, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: want to keep my kids in a cage. No, I
Speaker 2: want them to experience life because you know, you're you're
Speaker 2: that young age you know, once in your life and
Speaker 2: so it's like I want, you know, I love that there,
Speaker 2: you know, experiencing that for sure. Of course, I know.
Speaker 2: I make them aware, like someone comes near you, make
Speaker 2: sure you call mommy right away, kick and wear hurts,
Speaker 2: you know all that, you know, just say, yeah, be careful,
Speaker 2: like don't do drugs or poise, you know, yeah, absolutely don't.
Speaker 2: You know, don't put your drink down because they're in
Speaker 2: college now they could get roof feed and like always
Speaker 2: keep your drink in your hand, don't put it down,
Speaker 2: you know, So we try to give them all that's.
Speaker 1: No really good advice, Like, you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: because everything was so strict and controlled with the best intentions,
Speaker 1: obviously I acted out. Didn't do drugs like I wasn't
Speaker 1: that right, or or didn't sleep with anyone, like it
Speaker 1: wasn't that type of acting out. But I would be
Speaker 1: the girl that had you know. I felt like, and
Speaker 1: this is not like my parents told me, like I
Speaker 1: had to be so prim and proper and you know,
Speaker 1: such a big life, and that I would go to parties.
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking like go to parties like it
Speaker 1: was like a twelve year old party. During the day.
Speaker 1: We were watching like you know, a movie and had
Speaker 1: like chips and dip and like a punch bowl. But
Speaker 1: I was the girl that like when they, like the
Speaker 1: parents would walk out, I'd get like all the other
Speaker 1: kids like riled up, and I'd be acting funny and stuff,
Speaker 1: and like this happened. The mom had to call my
Speaker 1: mother because they came in and I was standing on
Speaker 1: the table pissing in the punch bowl, and all the
Speaker 1: kids were like they thought it was so funny, and
Speaker 1: the parents were like, what the yeah, and I was
Speaker 1: just so repressed that I was like, oh again, my
Speaker 1: parents didn't mean to do that. I had this good
Speaker 1: girl's side, and where's the bad girl's side? So anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I have this question for you. This is what
Speaker 1: I've been meaning to really ask you. So my kids
Speaker 1: are like, oh, Mom, stop putting us out there and
Speaker 1: talking about us and like, and I'm like, it's kind
Speaker 1: of our day job. Like I don't know what to
Speaker 1: tell you, Like, my kids grew up on TV. Your
Speaker 1: kids grew up on TV, and it's hard when they
Speaker 1: don't want to be a part of it. Do you
Speaker 1: have ones that don't want I mean, they're all so
Speaker 1: damn gorgeous, but not a part of it.
Speaker 2: I do. My second daughter, Gabriella she's really private. She
Speaker 2: doesn't really like the whole you know, all the cameras
Speaker 2: and everything. But like I always ask my daughters if
Speaker 2: they want to film with me, like if they want
Speaker 2: to do a scene with me, so I don't force them, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: so if they want to, like Gia and Milania are
Speaker 2: more you know, they they're fine with the cameras. And
Speaker 2: Adriana she's my youngest, she's fourteen, and same thing. If
Speaker 2: I ask her, like, you know, you do you want
Speaker 2: to do this scene with me? And then she'll say yes,
Speaker 2: you know, but I don't force them, Like if they
Speaker 2: say no, I'm totally fine with it, right. But Gabrielle
Speaker 2: is my one that's a little bit more reserved. She's
Speaker 2: private on Instagram. She's that child, and I totally respect it.
Speaker 2: Like in order she doesn't like, I have to get
Speaker 2: her approval before posting a photo. I have to really
Speaker 2: get there all their approvals before. Ga Is really is
Speaker 2: fine with it, but the other girls, like I have
Speaker 2: to get their approval, but people posting a phone. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I.
Speaker 1: Know when they were younger, you could just like so
Speaker 1: cute and they're like wait, what, no, take that down?
Speaker 1: What's that quote. Now you can't say that, No, you
Speaker 1: can't put that music to it. You can't.
Speaker 2: It's like, but gabriellis that's the one that went to
Speaker 2: the University of Michigan that you just watched that episode
Speaker 2: and you know she listen because of what happened to me,
Speaker 2: all the legal stuff, and you know, I was grateful
Speaker 2: for my job, and so you know, to them second
Speaker 2: nature because they you know, they did start really young
Speaker 2: on TV, like I think Gia was seven and then
Speaker 2: Millennia was three, Gabriella was four, and then I had
Speaker 2: Adriana on the show, right, so really they know that's
Speaker 2: what they know. You know, they know I'm being on
Speaker 2: TV and in Gia before getting on Housewives, I used
Speaker 2: to take our auditions, like for commercial auditions. She used
Speaker 2: to be a dancer, she did gymnastics. So I was
Speaker 2: trying to get her into this world, like just for her,
Speaker 2: and then I look and then what ended up happening
Speaker 2: that we ended up going on as a family.
Speaker 1: For my kids, they're more not okay some of them
Speaker 1: with the things.
Speaker 2: I say, oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean listen, I'm
Speaker 2: sure if I say something that my kids don't like,
Speaker 2: get I'll get the eye roll or whatever.
Speaker 1: And my fifteen year old she's now like, mom, I'm
Speaker 1: in high school, and like it's not okay, like people
Speaker 1: you can't say things because it affects me and I
Speaker 1: didn't choose this right, And I'm like, I understand that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know what happened with my kids, which
Speaker 2: is really sad that people would say things to them
Speaker 2: because of the legal situation that you know, me and
Speaker 2: my ex went through. And that's so mean, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just like, you know, nobody should be bullying or
Speaker 2: saying anything to to children like they you know, but
Speaker 2: kids are really mean. They It's so crazy how it is.
Speaker 2: And of course they hear it at home from their parents,
Speaker 2: so because you know, from watching the show, because it's
Speaker 2: not like the kids are watching Housewives, you know, right,
Speaker 2: So but like I know, my kids, like my kids
Speaker 2: would never be mean to any other children, like other
Speaker 2: kids out there, like my kids are not like that.
Speaker 2: I wish other parents would teach their kids like that,
Speaker 2: so kids wouldn't be bullied in school or wouldn't be
Speaker 2: you know, made fun of or you know, that should
Speaker 2: not happen.
Speaker 1: I agree, And yeah, and they're reading stuff on social media.
Speaker 1: They don't even know what's true. You know, all the
Speaker 1: press like you and I know, like.
Speaker 2: Right, you can't believe everything you read.
Speaker 1: Right, and some of it is true, but you know.
Speaker 2: It's like a lot of it is not. There's so
Speaker 2: many lives that are put out on my show, for instance,
Speaker 2: season fourteen, and like you sort into trailer, Yes, Margaret
Speaker 2: says that my husband spends all my money, Like, bitch,
Speaker 2: you don't even know what you're talking about. She does,
Speaker 2: She's not even in my house. It's like like she's
Speaker 2: putting out this false narrative out there, and it's like like,
Speaker 2: you know, she's trying to make me her storyline and
Speaker 2: that's all she does is talk about me. She's obsessed
Speaker 2: with me and my husband. It's like, yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: And at the reunion last year, the Foods came out
Speaker 2: with this Cockamanian shit like that my husband reached out
Speaker 2: to his ex in prison, like why would my husband
Speaker 2: reach out to your ex in prison? And then Tori,
Speaker 2: he fucking shot himself in the foot, Like he must
Speaker 2: be kicking himself right now because did you see all
Speaker 2: the stuff that's out there on social media about him? Yes, Okay, So.
Speaker 1: I heard John Fuda is a fan of double sided dildos,
Speaker 1: purple ones. Why purple? No, I'm just kidding. I imagine
Speaker 1: that that's the problem I have with it.
Speaker 2: So his Yeah, so, like someone contacted his ex in
Speaker 2: prison and started asking her questions, and so she told her,
Speaker 2: you know, her life story while she was with John
Speaker 2: and put this soul out there. But see, this is
Speaker 2: the thing where John totally fucked up because someone told
Speaker 2: him that Louis contacted his ex girlfriend in prison. So
Speaker 2: he opened up this can of worms and now they're
Speaker 2: all over him, eating him all up because it's like
Speaker 2: then now people started wondering, oh, he has an ex
Speaker 2: girlfriend now in prison, Like so he like, you get
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say. So, so now people are
Speaker 2: contacting her, and the Sun reporter contacted her and wrote
Speaker 2: her an email because she wanted She's like, did Louis
Speaker 2: Ruellis is my husband's name. Did Louis Bruellis contact you?
Speaker 2: And she and then she came forward and said, no,
Speaker 2: I never spoke to him before. So thank you Diana
Speaker 2: from the Sun, because she she did, you know, because
Speaker 2: she toy just like they like to write about you
Speaker 2: they like to write about me. I you know, I
Speaker 2: give them. You know, people like to click on whatever
Speaker 2: story's out there about me because.
Speaker 1: You're a fucking relevant queen.
Speaker 2: That's why I know how well magazines no matter what
Speaker 2: it's like, star in touch. I've been on so many covers,
Speaker 2: like they'd love to write about me. I saw magazines. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so trust me. So if my husband reached out to
Speaker 2: John food Is X, like he said, my husband did,
Speaker 2: trust me, this reporter would have loved to put that
Speaker 2: out there. And I'm glad she did that because she
Speaker 2: spoke to her. And I'm glad because you know what
Speaker 2: people do lie Unfortunately, it happens on my show all
Speaker 2: the time, and I'm glad John fuda Is X said
Speaker 2: the truth that like I have never spoken to that person,
Speaker 2: you know. And then afterwards then another person contacted food
Speaker 2: is X and that's when all that stuff came out
Speaker 2: and she smelt the beans on how you know, how
Speaker 2: life was being with him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's on the show. It's like it's
Speaker 1: out there. People know about it.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, it's like, I know I had
Speaker 2: I had nothing against him and his wife at all,
Speaker 2: and like why would I want to contact your ex
Speaker 2: girlfriend in prison for for what? Sorry, No, I don't
Speaker 2: need you as a storyline. I do well just on
Speaker 2: my own. I've been doing this for fourteen, Like look
Speaker 2: season fourteen, and I'm still on top. Like, I don't
Speaker 2: need you as my storyline, And that would make me
Speaker 2: look so bad if I did that, Like why would
Speaker 2: I contact you. I didn't even know he had an
Speaker 2: ex girlfriend that was in prison. I didn't even know, Like,
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1: Because it's you. You drive everything, so they're always gonna
Speaker 1: use you as the reference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he opened up Prindor's box and I'm
Speaker 2: sure now he's kicking himself.