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<v Speaker 1>This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Star is the wrong word by definition, but classical

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<v Speaker 1>star doesn't quite get at Long Long's place in the pantheon.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a serious pianist playing serious repertoire with a flare.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it's a Schubert fantasy in front of a sold out,

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<v Speaker 1>crowded Carnegie Hall. Once tempted to say he's one part

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Gould, one part Van Clyburne, but the truth is

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<v Speaker 1>he's Long Long. He and his signature Beaufon, were the

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<v Speaker 1>obvious choice to open the Beijing Olympics, watched by four

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<v Speaker 1>billion people, and for President Obama to invite to play

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<v Speaker 1>at the intimate White House dinner for the President of China.

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<v Speaker 1>Long Long takes an obvious joy in his art and

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<v Speaker 1>his fame, but both are hard won. A musical prodigy,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the son of two talented artists forced to

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<v Speaker 1>abandon their dreams by the Cultural Revolution. Just a few

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<v Speaker 1>years after he won a national competition at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of five, his father abandoned everything else in his life

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on his son's talent. They moved together to Beijing.

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<v Speaker 1>Long Long won so many contests that he was offered

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<v Speaker 1>a spot by the Curtis Institute of Music in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>His father moved with him to America too. All that

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<v Speaker 1>vicarious ambition took its toll on their bond, but over

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<v Speaker 1>the years it returned. We're very close. Our conversation was

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<v Speaker 1>taped in front of a live audience at w n

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<v Speaker 1>YCS Green Space. We're really much better than when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a nine year much better. It was not in

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<v Speaker 1>the same level. Yeah, we were really and it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>closer somehow because we are not living together. So in

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<v Speaker 1>a way, you know, these tents makes beauty, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>so that's that's how exactly happened. In his mind, he

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<v Speaker 1>must have a kind of a mixed feeling, the euphoria

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<v Speaker 1>of you having made it to the degree you've made it,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the same time he's not around you. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that if I was your dad, I'm obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>my kids. And if I was like your dad and

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<v Speaker 1>I was instrumental and influential in helping you become what

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<v Speaker 1>you became, then all of a sudden you were like, Okay, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I got this, and you're gonna move out on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, wait, no. You know, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>my son, I want to live with you forever. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he, um, where is to do with himself?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you're not living together? He's actually uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's helping me a lot in China back home, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he's also teaching a lot. He liked to helping

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<v Speaker 1>the next generation of musicians and uh, and he himself

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<v Speaker 1>was a musician. Yeah, he played the are Who the

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese valnin um so um that was his um using

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<v Speaker 1>some like circus bans. He was in an Air Force ban.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, before I was in a circus ban. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But the instrument itself is very beautiful. It's like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most charming instruments from Asia, and it's very tasteful.

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<v Speaker 1>It has a really beautiful taste and and it's also

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<v Speaker 1>an instrument always makes you cry somehow Yeah yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>so sometimes, I mean, my father made me cry this

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<v Speaker 1>different reason. You weren't crying because he broke out what

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<v Speaker 1>is it called again? Are Who? Are Who? Yeah? Are Who? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>More like that. Yeah, I'll get my Chinese produced eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe by the time we're done. But but but

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<v Speaker 1>then you your country, your native country is very driven

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<v Speaker 1>by competitions and international competitions. They put a tremendous emphasis

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<v Speaker 1>on that. Correct, absolutely the best way to make career.

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<v Speaker 1>We're meaning the competitions and which is the truth, especially

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<v Speaker 1>during that time, because otherwise nobody will discover you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a way. So we we have to go out

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<v Speaker 1>for international competitions and to win prizes. So being number one,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of became a motto in my early career.

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<v Speaker 1>And then how farst um after I landed here, I

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<v Speaker 1>had this teacher, great pianist, Gary Graffman, who who's also

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<v Speaker 1>quite different compared to the other academic professors because he

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<v Speaker 1>is so into, you know, a real career rather than

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<v Speaker 1>a short term being you know, a price winner. So

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<v Speaker 1>he discoursed me to do competitions and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>really did he say? Why? Yeah? He said, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>too crazy about being number one and you're not really

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<v Speaker 1>focused on what you should be, you know, learning the

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<v Speaker 1>repertoire and too he said, do you want to become

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<v Speaker 1>a great musician or you want to just win? And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, I said, is that not the same?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, what was the difference? I said, if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't win a prize, how I'm going to become a

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<v Speaker 1>great musician. He said, Oh, okay, that's the wrong understanding

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<v Speaker 1>you have, and especially his wife, you know, Naomi. Every

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<v Speaker 1>time I go to library in uh In Curtis and

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<v Speaker 1>then uh I started looking over the competition forms like

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<v Speaker 1>Monk Clyburn, Chopin, Shakhovsky, and I take it out and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm thinking to feel the form, right, And I

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<v Speaker 1>saw Naomi next to me, Hey, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Bad boy? H shouldn't you just working on your broms

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<v Speaker 1>second piano concerto rather than, you know, feeling the form?

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<v Speaker 1>Try to be crazy number one. Somehow, I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me go back to when you're when you when

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<v Speaker 1>you when you're young, you won your first competition when

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<v Speaker 1>you were five? Correct, Yeah, I mean that's that's what

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<v Speaker 1>what I was kind of election. Yeah, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a professional competition person. You know, I'm very competitive.

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<v Speaker 1>If I see you, let's let's do a commodation now

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<v Speaker 1>anyway I see you, Yeah, let's do it. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bother you with our compo. You're the winner. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>skip to that. But but but what fascinates me is

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<v Speaker 1>the emotion and the feeling behind that kind of work.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're five years old, if you can recall, are

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<v Speaker 1>you sitting at a piano and it's pressure, and it's tense,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like you have to pass a test because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a competition and you're and and there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a tight feeling you have where you want

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<v Speaker 1>or are you enjoying yourself when you're five years old? Um.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing good about competition is that it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>pushes you to play better than you're normally does because

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<v Speaker 1>you you try to play without round notes, you try

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<v Speaker 1>to be concentrate on what you do. But also, in

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, if you are too serious about competition,

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<v Speaker 1>you lose your soul in a way that you are

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to do something wrong. And as you know in art,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you really do something unique, you are actually

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<v Speaker 1>not really on the page, you're actually doing something but

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<v Speaker 1>that that is a really great moment. So so in

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<v Speaker 1>a way, it's it's hard to say, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to say, but I kind of enjoyed it because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I lose. Sometimes I win is encouraging me to

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<v Speaker 1>do better. UM, And actually I learn more than UM

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<v Speaker 1>than just playing because I see others playing and I'm like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>they're good. I need to catch up, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>so this is a good, good vibe. It's funny to

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<v Speaker 1>see you, of all people, and you watching other five

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<v Speaker 1>year old kid playing and you're like, damn, he's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't do that when I was let's have a competition,

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<v Speaker 1>you would be right. Now you're challenging everyone to a

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<v Speaker 1>duel at the piano. Now what was missing in your childhood?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you wish you had? More of the video games?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh more, more sports? Uh more? Free free time, free time?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, but now I mean at eight thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>I can have more free times you might want. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the end, it's kind of okay. Postponed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, postponed it. Yeah, but but in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that I wish that I may have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more more fun time, you know, to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>less pressure. I would say, yeah, yeah, did your dad

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm sorry that it was so tough and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so off. He never apolished, so I think the best

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<v Speaker 1>action he was like, oh yeah, let yourself handle your stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going to handle it anymore. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the the way that he has the management

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<v Speaker 1>onto you right right right, and now he's cheerless off.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom said, older, important concert you are going, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have a nice photo. He likes to have

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<v Speaker 1>some nice photos. You know, your mother is doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of traveling with your father. So what's your mother's

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<v Speaker 1>answering with all the travel? Just one martini is what

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<v Speaker 1>her program is. She does come in handy for somethingle

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<v Speaker 1>if she has this natural some kind of a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's just never get tired. She's incredible. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>got some of my energy from her. Her eyes are

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<v Speaker 1>always like this. Yeah. But before she started traveling with me,

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<v Speaker 1>she always sleep really early, like already you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very healthy, right. But then she now traveled with me

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<v Speaker 1>far fall a few years already, and now she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>never sleep before three, three or two at least. But

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<v Speaker 1>she looks better than before. So I think it's the

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<v Speaker 1>music therapy, you know. I think, you know, she's just everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>like every time I play something, you better crumpting. What's

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<v Speaker 1>on your own? Mother? Uh? Is there a piece you

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<v Speaker 1>play that is exceptionally challenging to you? Is there one

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<v Speaker 1>that even you every time you play a new piece,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a technically easy or difficult, there's always a

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<v Speaker 1>new story to tell. And somehow it's not all about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, play the note anymore, you know, as growing

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<v Speaker 1>up pianist, So more about how to bring those music

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<v Speaker 1>to life again, um and into you know, a different interpretation.

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<v Speaker 1>So therefore every piece is you have to focus and

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<v Speaker 1>in a very different style of course. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say this piece I just you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to care much and it will come

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<v Speaker 1>out in a great way. No way. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>really focus and to concentrate. So that's why, like in

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<v Speaker 1>in this new album, the in a book, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. There are many pieces considered be pretty simple,

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<v Speaker 1>but once you start to read look into those pieces

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, those are master pieces. It's not simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe technically simple, but if you want to make real,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, music out of it, you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>focused and to play everything in your mind to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to make it work. Yeah. Well, there, of course is

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<v Speaker 1>my first uh slip up here, which is that you

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<v Speaker 1>brought up your book before I did, which is no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a bad hosting on my part. I should

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<v Speaker 1>have mentioned that you have your new book out, the

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<v Speaker 1>piano book and the CD which I have. And one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I do, which is a silly, uh preoccupation, is

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<v Speaker 1>I go to an iTunes or any kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>download service and I look and see the length. So

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<v Speaker 1>it plays the mal or ninth fourth movement, the longest

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<v Speaker 1>and the slowest, the most tortured fourth move to the mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>And you do, Claire Dulon, you squeeze the hell out

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<v Speaker 1>of that. You really play the very long yes, luxuri um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know, after getting a little older,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be even longer. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>joked I don't know worry. I mean, the other day

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<v Speaker 1>there's the one critic said, you know, from the curb duloons, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the way I played, I think long Lone places Goldberg

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<v Speaker 1>with a two hour and thirty minutes, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a that's kind of a right thing to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to figure out how long I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play that piece. Uh, but you know what, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to enjoy the moment and I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that I heard everything from that piece. I have

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<v Speaker 1>another question for you that, of course we have a

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<v Speaker 1>piano here which is just a suggestion only don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>any pressure. It's there in case you feel incline. That's you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I like this way of you know, inviting

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<v Speaker 1>someone to play. Yeah, there's one friend of my um

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<v Speaker 1>it was, you know, the birthday of mine, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he inmited me to his house and he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know today's your birthday. Probably you will not play today,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just want to know. It's also my mother's birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>No pressure, So I played Heppy birthday for her. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it was public South and there's a like

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<v Speaker 1>rich lady in London always inviting him for tea um

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<v Speaker 1>and but he always has something to do. He did

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<v Speaker 1>not have time, and there's a family he came and

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<v Speaker 1>then the ladies like where is your chilu? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>was you did not you might my cello today Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Joe did our show and Billy said that that

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere he goes. You know, obviously a considerable number of

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<v Speaker 1>people have a piano in their home, and he said

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere he goes, they're like, Billy, do you mind just

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<v Speaker 1>one quick tune? And and and everywhere he goes it's

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<v Speaker 1>like we play Christmas carols at the Christmas party? Where

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<v Speaker 1>do you find the same thing as true? Our people

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<v Speaker 1>constantly saying, but they do in a different way now

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<v Speaker 1>they say, uh, what am traveling? Oh so to you

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<v Speaker 1>need a place to practice anytime twenty four hours. I

0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have neighbors. It's okay, it's myself. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it. I got it. Now before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to some other subjects that I've got a lot of questions. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>would you be gay less with some little yeah? I

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<v Speaker 1>will play yeah, I will play a one off of

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<v Speaker 1>the piece from the RICORDI. I don't know whish why,

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<v Speaker 1>but I snyeah, they will come to you. M m yea,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you. This is the Vaults of Emily

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<v Speaker 1>from the movie Emily. It's really nice, nice movie. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the describe for us how did the piano book come about?

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<v Speaker 1>Whose idea was this? I always wanted to do an

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<v Speaker 1>album like this because when I was a kid, I

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<v Speaker 1>barely find um the professional musician recording pieces like or

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<v Speaker 1>Unies or Cherney atudes, or Clementi so natina or most

0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:09.919
<v Speaker 1>Art so natina, or some of the piece which you

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<v Speaker 1>consider be the beginner's piece. Um. But those are the

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<v Speaker 1>pieces I love the most when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And then those those are my best friend. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's not best friends. Sometimes after a lot of practice,

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<v Speaker 1>become my worst friend. Uh. Sometimes sometimes I want to

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<v Speaker 1>kill them. Yeah, but in the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, those are the brand and butter made UH

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<v Speaker 1>pianist to grow. Um So, so therefore I wanted to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to record something which can be appreciated by

0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:45.720
<v Speaker 1>every person who loves piano. Um. So that's why we

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<v Speaker 1>called the album the Piano Album. Yeah, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>for Deutsche and then it's it's already in release because

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<v Speaker 1>I have it on my phone. I don't thank you,

0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.800
<v Speaker 1>thank you? What was worth it? Believe thanks? I I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it's brings some something nice feelings. And I don't

0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:12.560
<v Speaker 1>don't always count the minute, please yeah that five second? Now, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you when you when you're leaving uh

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<v Speaker 1>very shortly in the next few days to go on

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<v Speaker 1>a tour, and you're you're gonna have a um You're

0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:31.760
<v Speaker 1>going to Rome and then you're going on to Korea Pacific.

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<v Speaker 1>So for now, when you go on these trips, the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing that comes to mind is that you know

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<v Speaker 1>you grew up in uh, communist China, and of course

0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Americans have their own you know, um unreliable images of

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<v Speaker 1>China and what what goes on in China. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they're quite sure. But for me, what I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>about is how did the cultural revolution in China impact

0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:59.439
<v Speaker 1>your parents. When there's an impact on your mom, I

0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.160
<v Speaker 1>think that the revolution, of course this is from their

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<v Speaker 1>their generation. I wasn't there, but it certainly gave them

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<v Speaker 1>incredible um kind of I mean openness to to the

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<v Speaker 1>next generation. They want their kid, you know, to to

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<v Speaker 1>uh to be a citizen of the world. And they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in a way that because they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>missed ten years of time to not connected to to

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Um and so so in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>that's why my generation of Chinese kids, um and not

0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:40.359
<v Speaker 1>kids anymore. Um. UM, we are very you know trying

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, learn piano and to to get connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the world of course being Chinese, but also a

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<v Speaker 1>world citizen. UM. So of like the our mission is

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<v Speaker 1>bridging the culture together. UM. This is your home now

0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.600
<v Speaker 1>in New York, New York home. Move to New York

0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:06.360
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand seven, after UM ten years in Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>um since ninety seven and Curtis, Yeah, I was studying there,

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<v Speaker 1>um and then I was waiting to earn more money

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<v Speaker 1>to for the department here. So how's that going. Yeah,

0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.439
<v Speaker 1>it worked since two thousand seven, So that's that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I moved here. And uh, when I came to America

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety six, I was just fourteen and and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought New York is such a a CD with the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world behind. So I always wanted to to come

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<v Speaker 1>here to uh, you know, to be part of this. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean because the cultural scene here is obviously very real.

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<v Speaker 1>New York as a cultural capital like other great cities,

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<v Speaker 1>but but maybe not as much as other cities. There

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<v Speaker 1>was no in Paris. I mean I actually do have

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<v Speaker 1>a new home in Paris fully six, so I mean

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<v Speaker 1>sold a few records, so it would be like Beijing,

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<v Speaker 1>New York on Paris. Like my yeah, but new sounds

0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like the perfect triangle New York, Beijing, Paris. But but

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<v Speaker 1>but but so when you when you travel the world,

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<v Speaker 1>are there halls that you play in or their people

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<v Speaker 1>that you play, ensembles that you play with that you

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<v Speaker 1>really get excited about? Like, what are among your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>spaces to perform it. I know that the acoustics are

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<v Speaker 1>very much of an issue because being on the board

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<v Speaker 1>of the Philharmonic and they're gonna be dynamiting David Geffen

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<v Speaker 1>Hall very shortly in the next year or two to

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<v Speaker 1>be dull of Geffen Hall. What's the space that when

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<v Speaker 1>you perform you just love the sound of that space? Um.

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean there are many beautiful holes in the world. Um.

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>And of course you have Carnegie Hall. Here have Boston

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Symphony Hall, it's really amazing sound. Um. And you have

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<v Speaker 1>the Music Faraye Concert House in Vienna, um and U.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the very beautiful look um, like this

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful look is the Royal Arbort Hall in London. Maybe

0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>the sound is not great, but it looks great, you

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<v Speaker 1>know e sometimes that come to you know, for TVD recording,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, live streaming. Nice place. Yeah, and uh, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a really interesting because for pianists were normally play

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<v Speaker 1>on the side, right, so so we never really look

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<v Speaker 1>into audience somehow. I mean, if you want you do

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>like this right and then but in the Royal Arbort

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Hall it's a round right, so everywhere's audien. So first

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>time I felt really nervous when I start playing Mozart,

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, so delicate, and then I see someone sweeping

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:47.160
<v Speaker 1>at me. I was like, oh, this is only downside.

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I was playing the round House, you know, and I'm

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking about cellist every day, you know, playing like wow,

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that's that's tough. I move with you with Manhattan School

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.399
<v Speaker 1>of Music. I told you about this story. We're in

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Central Park and you're playing Rhapsody in Blue and you're

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>there with the Philharmonic with Alan. It's the concert in

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the Park and where that's obviously where the reverse you'd

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>be facing the other way, and you're playing the piano

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>and you get to this the most tender and the

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>most beautiful, the most gorgeous moment in that soft piano

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>part of Rhapso and Blue. And you get to the

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 1>end of the keyboard and you took this nano second

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>to look at the audience. Of course I'm projecting here.

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:27.159
<v Speaker 1>And you get to the end of the piano and

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 1>you look at the You're like, you really love me,

0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>You're really crazy about me. When I do this, When

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>I do this to this piano, you go crazy, don't you.

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I know you do like, yeah, it's me. Yeah, with

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you and I said that your mother, and your mother

0:24:46.359 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>goes exactly. That's him. That's what he does. The great

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>pianist Long Long. He took his first lesson when he

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.880
<v Speaker 1>was just three years old. You know who else got

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 1>his start at three? It Sack Proman playing on a

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 1>toy violin in his bedroom. I love the sound of

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 1>the violin. I heard it on the radio and I said,

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that's what I want to do. Simple, that's what I

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>want to do. And there's no explanation. You know, everybody

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>has a different thing that grabs their imagination. And the

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>violent sound was that, and I think it was fitz

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 1>So he was pretty good for grabbing the imagination. You know,

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>my full interview with its perman can be found. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, dot Org long Long on music that

0:25:48.720 --> 0:26:41.360
<v Speaker 1>moves him coming up. Yeah, I'm Alec Baldwin and you're

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>listening to here's the thing. Long Long had barely hit

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 1>puberty when he and his father landed in Philadelphia from Shenyang.

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>The Curtis Institute of Music awarded Long Long of full scholarship.

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>But teenagers still need a high school education. I still

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>remember my first day in Phildelphia in high school and

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I went into the class and they say, and so

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>introduce yourself, and I said, yeah, I'm I'm playing piano.

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I come here to to study classical music. And everybody

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>looks at me. It's like they're seeing an alien. What

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>a s a Mozart? You know Mozart? I say, I

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>heard about that guy. Yeah, he's dead for many years. Right,

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wow, this is something you know, I've been

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>in a bubble. Oh. By the way, I also record Chopstick,

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I did not know that piece in China.

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>I did not know Chopstick. I know Chopstick, you know.

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>But so so they so, you know, so they find

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>me that jug my career would be over. Right. So

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>so one day where you might them backstage offended off

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>our course for there's a piano. They were in the

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>rehearsal for two minutes and they cannot stand anymore. That

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>they all came out because they just couldn't listen to symphony.

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And and they said, look, if there's a piano there,

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>can you play chap stick? And and I also, yeah,

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 1>so I don't. I don't really know. And then but

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 1>they showed me and I started. But from that moment on,

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>we became really good friends. It's also you know, this

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>culture class is kind of you know, we went through

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>that that point, um, and then I realized, you know,

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>one day I should help my friend and classmate to

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 1>have a bit of uh, you know, music inspirations in

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the school. So therefore, ten years ago we found it

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>that the non non international Music Foundation in New York

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>and now we have almost sixty schools. And I also

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>want to thank thank you. But I also I want

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to have this opportunity to thank alk because from the

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>first time when we played concert, Alec was the host

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>already and then in every every fund reasing time he's

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>always there and he's also U you know, don't hard

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>to you thank you know, we really appreciate your help.

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>And so the foundation has been in existence for how

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>long now ten years? Ten years? Yeah, and sixty schools

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>in the US around the world. Yeah, how would you say,

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean to the extent that this is possible because

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm always quick to to undervalue or under emphasize the

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>American experience, if you will. But you are a prodigy, obviously,

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's not Gonnam dead at the piano since you're

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 1>five years old, how much would you say, the United States,

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and your experience of living United States helped to crystallize

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>some of your talents. Um. I was very lucky. I

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>had this best teacher in the world, Barack Graffman Curtis. Yeah, Curtis.

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>He basically became a lifetime mentor to me. Um. And

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>so because this is quite important, there are many schools,

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>many different teachers. You need to find someone who's having

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>a you know, green college, but also fits your style.

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>And in the way Gary is that absolutely the right

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>one because he taught me so much about different culture

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>because you know, learning piano, this is not just playing

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the note. You have to learn the culture, and you

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>have to learn the history. You need to learn their culture, roots,

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>folk music, and somehow you're learning the culture of the

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>world and you really need to dig into it. Um.

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>And then I think in the US it's a it's

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>a really um. You have so many different neighborhood you know,

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>if you want to find more European neighborhood like German Town,

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>you're under the French quarter um or you know, so

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.239
<v Speaker 1>you always find people from different culture and they can

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>share you know, their their culture with you. Uh. And

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and I still remember the first few years it was

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>very difficult for me to understand the culture. And then

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:57.479
<v Speaker 1>uh Gary found a wonderful teacher who taught me Shakespeare. Um.

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Then you know, after reading a few of the books,

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that I starting to understand the Western classic music. You know,

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the readationship between you know, the music to the art

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>theme you know, to the novels. You know too, you

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>have to have the surroundings. And then of course not

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>only US is important. You also need to go to

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Europe because this is some of some of the greatest composers,

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>like going to Moscow and our Saint Petersburg, going to Vienna,

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>going to Berlin, Hamburg, Paris and our Madrid. You know,

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>to get into the European culture. What does a conductor

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>have to offer you these days at your level? Um,

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>when I was a teenager, I had many great life

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>experience with you know, conductors like salalish Uh, Laura Mazell

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh and they're like my grandfather, you know, they're like

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>a totally different generation and from a totally different time.

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>And so they told me how to understand payto and

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>how to understand Brahms, how to understand you know in

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a way that it's hard to explain in the schools,

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>but this is like face to face. They show you

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the feeling, you know, like they basically even though sometimes

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>they don't sing really well, they can really show what

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>they want. And those are kind of life experiences. And

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 1>this is something that I'm so treading because some of

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>those masters already passed away and I still have a

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>beautiful memories of my first time meetings about it or Mozelle. Um.

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>And this is just tremendous experience for me. Name if

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>you can't a couple of kind of conductors who you

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>really love working, Yeah, absolutely, uh, Costavo do them. He's

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>my great buddy. I love him. We just played yes,

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean before yesterday in l a um and then

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>pay to the number two. Yeah. And also I love

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the new conductor of Burning Pharmonic uh, Careo Patriinko, which

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>is going to be starting with Burning Field this season.

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Um and uh and of course I love to be meta.

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>He showed me all the tricks what Harvest did with

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>him the Rachmano third Concerto. And also when I played

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>chopin number one, he said, this, honest not good enough.

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I said, I said, so, so what do you think?

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>He said? Yeah, I play with his other room in style.

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>He did not play like this. Show me my star

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>showed me and he said, I don't know how to

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>do that, but he did like this are you still learning?

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing. You know, sometimes you you go

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>to a master class and um, you learn a lot

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>of things in that class, and then afterwards it helps

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you a little bit, you know, for a few more weeks.

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>If someone's really good, real master, you will hear a

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>master class and that class will carry at least another

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>ten years. And every time you think about, you know

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>what he or she told you, And then that class

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 1>is not just about how to make music, but it's

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 1>it's a really the way how are you going to

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>think about music and how you connect with your personality

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, to the composers, and how are you breading

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>your imagination into the music, and how are you going

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to develop your next ten years? So they basically make

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you think much more than who you are. Few musicians

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 1>can really do that, and it really brings you to

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>think much deeper and to think about in a very

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:58.720
<v Speaker 1>different concept. Um and I still remember working with the Maesro,

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Nicholas Hannon, core um Mozart and of course I played

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>many times motar concertos, but that lesson I played, Um,

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 1>he showed me something that I had never seen. Mozart

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>can be described or interpreted in that way, and that

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>changed the whole time. You You you basically think, oh

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>my god, what I did was wrong, you know, and

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna relearn everything. So so you know, some musicians

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>have that power to really restart your thinking of everything. Yeah,

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna tell us what he said about Mozart?

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>These people love class or is that a secret? That

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>an industry secret? Nothing? I mean, I think I play

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.439
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of now would be the perfect time

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>for that. It's yeah, it's a little bit hard to

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to describe because it's you don't need to describe it.

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>You can just do it. I play two variations from

0:35:57.920 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the Twink of Twinkle variation, right, and let's take a

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>couple more. Um the uh, was there a moment in

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>your life? I mean, I know I asked these sappy questions,

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 1>but it was there a moment in your life when

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>you said, I really am pretty good at this? Like

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>when did you realize you were becoming the person that

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you became? It happened few times, Yeah, because because like

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, it happens, and then you think you're now

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 1>god enough. You know. It's kind of like that. So

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>when I was nige, I thought, I really don't have

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>tenant and I thought I'm going to give up. Um.

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>And then somehow why why, I mean, what was going

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>on in your life? That happened? When I had I

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>had a professor who did not like me, and then

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>she fired me. Uh, and I thought, I'm so bad.

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I got fired human, you know, can't you imagine this? Really?

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:03.959
<v Speaker 1>And she told me that you you will never become

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>a pianist. So yeah, yeah, so you call her before

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>every concert? No, I I got ring out. No. I

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>get so scared because every time when I'm making audition

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in the conservatory, she's sitting first roll because she's the professor,

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I had so many nightmares because of

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, her her encouragement. Um. Anyway, so but but

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>then I am and then, uh, the first time I

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.359
<v Speaker 1>thought I'm pretty good. It's that I when I won

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the international competition at the age of twelve in Germany,

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, wow, I actually can play some good sound. Yeah. Um.

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:47.359
<v Speaker 1>And then and then I had a horrible time at

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 1>school again, like I did not do well, and I'm like, okay,

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not good enough. And then when I came to

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 1>America in the beginning, I was so confident. In the

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.919
<v Speaker 1>first months, I'm like, wow, I'm pretty good. And then

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, there are many great students at Curtis. They

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>play so well, uh, and I'm like, I'm not good enough.

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>And then I have no concerts, you know, for for

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>like three years almost because nobody have the confidence to

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>take a fifteen year old boy, you know, to play

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Beethoven concertos or or Tchaikovsky. It's kind of like too young,

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I still remember my early days audition,

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, from Philadelphia taking the the Greyhound boss um

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>like twelve dollar or something like yeah yeah, and then

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 1>came to uh him to Times Square and then running

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>into auditions, and then afterwards the conductors like yeah so um.

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>So there was a audition for Milwauki Symphony. It's good, good,

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>good orchestra. And the conductor look at me from some

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:59.799
<v Speaker 1>European country and you played really good, But how old

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 1>are you? And I'm a fifteen Oh, maybe let's meat

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 1>another ten years. So it did not go so well

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning. Now, there's a story that I read

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 1>about you going to eat Lincoln and you go the

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>German one like in twelve one. I was twelve right,

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and you go to a competition first international company for

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>me yea. And when you go there, you went to

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>a church, and I remember you prayed to Jesus when

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you were in this church. And I'm just wondering, and

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 1>I want to phrase this question the right way, which

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 1>is do you have without enumerating them, were discussing them

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>if you don't want to specific religious beliefs or like

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 1>many people that I've met in the classics, music itself

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>your religion. I think certainly music is our religion. But

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I do believe, uh, there's some incredible power beyond us.

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>You're getting inspired from somewhere, and this is not just

0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 1>about our wonderful friendship, but there's some someone is helping you,

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. And also from the different part of

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>my life. You know, there's a lot of time I

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>thought I'm not gonna make it, but somehow I made it.

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Strength do you listen to any classical music? For me?

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:18.759
<v Speaker 1>I when I'm not performing, I like to listen to

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 1>jazz because somehow you know, the the jazz and the

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>jazz musicians are really really incredible. They can just you know,

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 1>give anything and they make it into a beautiful work,

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>especially on the people that I admire like Herbie Hancock

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 1>and Chicorea, you know, those my great friends, and also

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>learned so much from them. Um. And then the other

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>aspect is to to listen to new music, you know,

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 1>just fresh made, whether it's on top radio or like

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 1>E d M. You know, just here movies TV. And

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>it's also great um and uh and also um, I

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:59.240
<v Speaker 1>think listen to modern symphony or Brahms. Symphonies are always

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, always very inspiring. You always find something new.

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 1>And somehow, when I was a kid, I did not

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 1>really reflect those things into my life. You know, you

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of listen to it, you know it's beautiful. But

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>now somehow what I'm especially you know, normally when you

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 1>play with orchestra, the second half is the orchestra, right,

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 1>so I always sit in and then when I listened

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to Mother or Problems, it's just somehow it's reflecting your life,

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the changes of the harmonies. Somehow, it's like it's it's

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 1>so related to us. You're sort of thinking, oh, this

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 1>is one point of my career. What happened is like,

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, the turning of the harmonies. What is it

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:40.800
<v Speaker 1>about this music that it touches people that way? What

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>is your feeling? Right? Because in classical music, especially in

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:47.760
<v Speaker 1>the symphonic pieces, there's there have so many different layers,

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 1>different layers, and those layers are you know, representing our

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:59.320
<v Speaker 1>emotion um our memories and and our kind of different

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>aspect of culture um and people like Moller. He's the

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>reason I think with love of his music so much

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>is that because he's he has such a mixed of

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 1>culture in his music, and it's somehow you know, every

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 1>one of us is piece of that um and and

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>also you know, class that's what classical music is for.

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:24.240
<v Speaker 1>It has a you know, it's a very long pieces,

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>very long symphonies, and you know, it's it's very different

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>when you if you see a film at five minutes

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and finishes, if it's a TV so twenty minutes, or

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a movie for two hours, it's get

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.879
<v Speaker 1>you into a different stage of your heart, of your

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>mind as well. And I think symphonies are like an opera,

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, they can really get in two very deep

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:54.880
<v Speaker 1>layers of your heart and of your senses. Um. And

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 1>another thing is that once you're in the concert hall

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:02.760
<v Speaker 1>listening to those incredible work, is that everything else get blocked,

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.920
<v Speaker 1>everything else. So that's why your emotion becomes so pure,

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 1>so genuine. You become who you are. And so that's

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>why you know, we get tears in our eyes because

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 1>we're so focused and we just let music take us

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>to when we start, you know, our life, the first

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>day of your memory. And I think that's ill. I

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:29.359
<v Speaker 1>was going to ask this question, but I'll just say

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:31.359
<v Speaker 1>this now, and that is that I was going to say,

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you grew up your whole childhood in China and then

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you've lived here and abroad for years, and I was

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>going to ask you, what what have you learned that

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the Chinese people in the American people have in common?

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 1>And I guess what I'm realizing is everywhere you go,

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:46.919
<v Speaker 1>what people have in common is this language of music

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:50.319
<v Speaker 1>and absol love of music. Like, for example, there are

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of great augurs are coming to visit China,

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and most of those Chinese kids probably never

0:45:56.800 --> 0:46:00.160
<v Speaker 1>heard of those countries before in their life. But when

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 1>they start playing their music, we all how that we

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>know each other. Um and this is the power, This

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 1>is really the power. Please join me in thanking our

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 1>very special guest, long long, Thank you, Long long. His

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:49.320
<v Speaker 1>most recent album of pieces normally reserved for young learners

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>is called Piano Book. The accompanying hardcover has all the

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.479
<v Speaker 1>sheet music, plus his notes on why each piece meant

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:02.800
<v Speaker 1>so much to him. But up, I'm Alec Baldwin and

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you're listening to here's the Thing.