WEBVTT - ​The Return of the Knee Walk (Dancing with the Stars: The Next Pro Episode 102)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Stepping on Toes. I am professional dancer

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle Fischel and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a celebrity podcaster val Chmerkovsky.

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<v Speaker 1>It is week two of Dancing with the Stars. The

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<v Speaker 1>next pro ten contestants remain. Last week we said goodbye

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<v Speaker 1>to Briar and Jake, and we saw some stiff competition.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like everyone is so good and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come down to every single performance, and it gets us

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<v Speaker 1>very excited for season thirty five. Well, I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of our listeners want to know how much you

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<v Speaker 1>are aware of before the show starts. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>any celebrities that will be on the show? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know who your partner is already? Will you do the

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<v Speaker 1>knee walk again?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I retired the New York I mean, forget

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<v Speaker 2>the season. I did it ninety seven times on the

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<v Speaker 2>road tour. But no, that was such a fun time.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully I'll be able to create something else that goes

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<v Speaker 2>viral exactly like like a.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, something that's not as hard on the knees.

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<v Speaker 2>Made something a little more stationary. But yeah, no, there's

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<v Speaker 2>always whispers. I think, like you know you've been in

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<v Speaker 2>this industry. In any business, there's whispers, you know, before

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<v Speaker 2>any big project, but I try to respectfully keep my

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<v Speaker 2>distance from the gossip. I have a great relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>the show. I continue to hopefully be desirable by the

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<v Speaker 2>production and they continue to bring me back, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really get involved in all the gossip beforehand. You

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<v Speaker 2>know who they give me is who they give me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't complain. I've been very lucky with the

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<v Speaker 2>way Dancing with the Stars a streeting me in regards

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<v Speaker 2>to partners. So I trust the process and whoever I get,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do my best with. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's so funny. I asked you the question, like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know who your partner is? And you reminded

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<v Speaker 1>me in the most diplomatic way. I'm not even sure

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<v Speaker 1>they're asking me back. You guys. You guys find that

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<v Speaker 1>out kind of in the eleventh hour, whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>you have a partner, because who they cast and who

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<v Speaker 1>then kind of determines who the pros need to be,

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<v Speaker 1>how many men, how many women, how tall they need

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Totally, so yeah, everyone always asked, are you

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<v Speaker 1>sure you didn't know who your partner was? I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>it is one. Not even one second point five seconds

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<v Speaker 1>before I walked in, they were like, his name's Pasha.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the door opened and I was like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all real.

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<v Speaker 2>It is it is, it is real. And yes, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of uncertainty, a lot of hope, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of prayer. Yeah, but yeah, it's been the process for

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<v Speaker 2>all these years, and I think now we've built a

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<v Speaker 2>certain resilience to it. But it's again, it's it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody. It's a live show. Yeah, there's really very

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<v Speaker 2>little pre production happening outside of the casting. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a really difficult puzzle to piece together. I think

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<v Speaker 2>our casting director does a great job. And yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>compatibility of the celebs being casted with the pros that

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<v Speaker 2>are there to service that season for them is very

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<v Speaker 2>also nuanced. The good thing about this is that I

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<v Speaker 2>am a perfect height.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're also just a perfect person.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, yeah, the thing got the look, so

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, so I'm excited regardless.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I figured people should know. They taped this next

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<v Speaker 1>pro show in Australia while you were on tour, which

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<v Speaker 1>means the guest judges had to fly in for just

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<v Speaker 1>a few days and then they were turned back to

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<v Speaker 1>the road whatever city we were in. How insane was

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<v Speaker 1>this schedule while you guys were on tour?

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<v Speaker 2>It was? It was insane, It was it was exciting. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I've given myself you know, I had five years off

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<v Speaker 2>away from touring with Dancing with the Stars, so I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of last year gave myself the license to really

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<v Speaker 2>dive into dance. And you know, kind of because I

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<v Speaker 2>try to do a lot of things entrepreneurially whatever outside

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<v Speaker 2>of dance. But I kind of just was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>just do this, enjoyed for however long you still got.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I just celebrated dance last year. So I

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<v Speaker 2>did the season. I went straight into the tour. And

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<v Speaker 2>so for me, showing up on our days off for

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<v Speaker 2>three months, not having a day off was challenging on

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<v Speaker 2>the body. But like, I couldn't have been more happy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I want to. In the previous episode,

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<v Speaker 2>I gave you a Russian phrase.

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<v Speaker 1>About you know, breath before the this No matter how

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<v Speaker 1>many breaths you take, your still going to die.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great translation. Well, I'm taking all the dance

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<v Speaker 2>steps I can before I don't anymore. So the form

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<v Speaker 2>a professional podcaster full.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, full time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I embraced it. But yes, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of challenge. It was very challenging for Mandy Moore

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<v Speaker 2>and the production of Dancing with the Stars because there's

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<v Speaker 2>a tour, because there's a certain integrity that we want

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<v Speaker 2>to keep with the show and to all of our

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<v Speaker 2>fans that come out and watch us. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was a bit of a juggling act, but we

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<v Speaker 2>we did it. It was hard on the pros leaving.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lot a lot of work for the

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<v Speaker 2>pro staying, but we we handled it. It kept it fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you talk a little bit about the swings Anya

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<v Speaker 1>and Keaton?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, again superstars. Anya and Keaton had to learn

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<v Speaker 2>every single track of every single dancer and so they

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<v Speaker 2>were kind of the glue between. They filled in for

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<v Speaker 2>any like So for instance, someone like Keaton and Anya Ball,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you Keaton's side, he had to be Brandon. Actually, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's actually give you Anye because that's better. She had

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<v Speaker 2>to fill in for three female pros left to do. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so she had to fill in for Danny, for

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<v Speaker 2>Jenna Fort, for brit then, but also in different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes she had to fill in for Emma because Emma

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<v Speaker 2>had to step in for Jenna, and so she had

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<v Speaker 2>to learn Emma's part. It's like it was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>and so shout out to Anye, Stevenson and Keaton because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they were they were excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>I could I could barely remember my own track.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you and I laughed every single night about

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not we were going to get tambourines, right, yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just one small part.

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<v Speaker 2>You just had to be there. You just had to

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<v Speaker 2>be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming into episode two of the next pro how are

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<v Speaker 1>you feeling? This is someone who's going to be competing

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<v Speaker 1>against one of these dancers next season? Are you are

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<v Speaker 1>you feeling it? Do you think it will deliver the

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<v Speaker 1>next Dancing with the Stars stand out?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think so. I think there's definitely an abundance

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<v Speaker 2>of talent in this cast, and it's exciting to see

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of faces I'm familiar with, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a few faces that I've I'm being introduced to,

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<v Speaker 2>just like the rest of the world. And it's exciting. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's exciting to shed even more light on ballroom dance

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<v Speaker 2>and to do so on the community and therefore expose

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<v Speaker 2>and introduce, you know, these guys to to the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the world. Yeah, I'm proud of that. Again, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we have a lot of incredible talent in the

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<v Speaker 2>ballroom competitive ballroom community, and you know, Dancing with the

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<v Speaker 2>Stars has been a vehicle to broadcast that talent to

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<v Speaker 2>a wider audience and very few have enjoyed it, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's been life changing. And so it's nice to not

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<v Speaker 2>gatekeep this awesomeness and allow a new generation to come

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<v Speaker 2>in and enjoy it. But they'll have to go through me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Welcome them in and also kind of stop,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy your stay, see you later. So we start with

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<v Speaker 1>a little recap of last week's show, reminding us of

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<v Speaker 1>what has happened so far, and then here comes our host,

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest Australian exports since Tim TAM's. It's Robert Irwin.

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<v Speaker 1>He reintroduces the judges, Shirley and Mark Ballas, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he reveals this week's guest judge, a ten season vet

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, a tremendous choreographer and storyteller, and a

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<v Speaker 1>student of the Ballast family himself, it is Brandon Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think makes Brandon such a great asset

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<v Speaker 1>for Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote in my notes, Yep, Brandon smashed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Brendan did a great job. By the way, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Jen always corrects me. It's it's Brandon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Brendan, right, not Brendan Brandon Brandon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Brandon and Brandon are the same name for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know you have to say it. You have to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Brendan Brandon, Brendan Brandon, Brandon. There you go, right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Brandon did a great job. I'm proud of

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<v Speaker 2>him because it's interesting you said a ten year vet,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, damn, Brandon's been on the show for

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<v Speaker 2>ten years. I know that means I've been on the

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<v Speaker 2>show for much. But I'm proud of him too, because again,

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at Brandon for a long time as one

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<v Speaker 2>of these contestants, you know, whose dream came. I know

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<v Speaker 2>him since he was a kid as well. And to

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<v Speaker 2>now have him as my peer and somebody I like,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I get along very well with and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible amount of respect for him, and he's grown

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<v Speaker 2>so much, so I'm proud of him. And now to

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<v Speaker 2>see him come in and be a mentor was really

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<v Speaker 2>really special and he nailed it. Just to see again

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<v Speaker 2>his evolution on camera as far as speaking on camera

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<v Speaker 2>and giving feedback and being confident. And he shed a

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<v Speaker 2>tear in this episode, which was so sweet. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even know Brandon was that emotionally available. We actually all

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<v Speaker 2>we have a consensus that he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not oh, that he's kind of cold and now super coold.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he's not friends with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Single day after the tour ends, he just ghoests the

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell.

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<v Speaker 1>You, I have texted Brandon about many things. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>gotten a text back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just text his wife. But yeah, No, Brandon did

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<v Speaker 2>a great job and he directed them very well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, just like Derek last week. Brandon arrives with an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible performance for the contestants, telling a story to the

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<v Speaker 1>song Rescue by Lauren Dagel. It is a beautiful duet

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<v Speaker 1>all about how he was adopted at a young age

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<v Speaker 1>by a white family and how he views adoption now

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<v Speaker 1>that it changed his life. We see that some of

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<v Speaker 1>the contestants were brought to tears.

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<v Speaker 2>These kids, man, generation is so emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>They are I know you had some thick skin.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean again, he did a great job. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's so what's the theme of this episode storytelling?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, choreography.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he did a great job obviously telling a

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<v Speaker 2>story and it's a very powerful one. I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of a lot of people can relate to and

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<v Speaker 2>they did clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fittingly. This week's challenge, like we said, is all

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<v Speaker 1>about storytelling. The contestants are paired into couples to use

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<v Speaker 1>dance to tell a story from their life that is meaningful.

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<v Speaker 1>They are going to be looking for a strong narrative

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<v Speaker 1>that warrants an emotional response. And then we get our pairs.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric will be with Natalie, Benji will be with Nina.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Tristan and Stephanie together and they seem like

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<v Speaker 1>they have a very strong connection. Aj and Selena, and

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<v Speaker 1>finally Alan and Adele. Alan uses the rules Royce nickname.

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<v Speaker 1>So it appears that sticking. We've now had it for

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<v Speaker 1>two episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna throw something out there. We could

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<v Speaker 2>find the sod. But I did a podcast and I

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<v Speaker 2>was asked about.

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<v Speaker 1>You did another pot cast.

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<v Speaker 3>This was years ago, okay, thank you, okay, And I

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<v Speaker 3>was asked about Daniella, and I was like, well, you know, Daniella.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a Formula one car, Like that's she's on. Her

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<v Speaker 2>mechanics are on a different level.

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<v Speaker 1>You think Derek hurt, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he because I used that same metaphor in

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with him.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll just I'll just you're just leaving that little

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<v Speaker 1>nugget out. She doesn't mean anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing, just just but now that I have the mic,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just just think you you could look at the timeline,

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<v Speaker 2>just to just go.

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<v Speaker 1>Back, select the gallery, look at the details, look at

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<v Speaker 1>the details. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Royce.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, she is, She's the rolls Royce off the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So now with each pair, they will need to choose

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<v Speaker 1>whose story they want to tell, what song they will

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<v Speaker 1>dance to, and in which style they will choreograph it themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the contestants break off off. Stephanie and Tristan

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<v Speaker 1>are the first to make the very important decision. They

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<v Speaker 1>will tell Stephanie's story about honoring her Latina roots and

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<v Speaker 1>embracing her true self. Yeah, and so it seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>me like the couples had a very easy time deciding

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<v Speaker 1>whose story they were going to tell. Is that usually

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<v Speaker 1>the way it goes that you are with your partner

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a decision to make, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of sense whose should take priority.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yes and no. First, so I've never been

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<v Speaker 2>in a position where I'm negotiating whose story.

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<v Speaker 1>You've never been the celebrity.

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<v Speaker 2>A priority until now. But but yeah, no, So typically

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<v Speaker 2>we have a story, which story we want to tell.

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<v Speaker 2>We kind of have a conversation, and whatever feels more

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<v Speaker 2>authentic to my partner, you know, we go with that story.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I can help direct. I know, some pros will

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<v Speaker 2>be like no, no, no, yeah, they want to cry,

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<v Speaker 2>so don't tell that story. Let's tell the story. I

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<v Speaker 2>try to go with, like, whatever story is going to

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<v Speaker 2>resonate with you the most, that's the one I want

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, I'm here at your service. So but

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<v Speaker 2>certain things are are just more interesting than others and

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more translatable. I guess more you could,

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<v Speaker 2>you could, you could tell that story in a mind

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<v Speaker 2>because again it's you don't have a two hour feature

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<v Speaker 2>film to tell your story. I know, yeah, you have

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<v Speaker 2>a minute ten you know, and in dance and not

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<v Speaker 2>that much bells and whistles production wise, so it has

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<v Speaker 2>to be a very clear message that you're trying to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a very important week for former hip hop

0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.720
<v Speaker 1>dancer Tristan, considering he was in the bottom two in

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<v Speaker 1>the first episode. And then Benji comes in wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>create an homage to Miami and his Latin roots, while

0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Nina mentions perseverance she took ten years off of competitive

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<v Speaker 1>dancing thanks to a jealous ex boyfriend and returned at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time as the sudden death of her father.

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<v Speaker 1>And they pretty easily decide they're going to dance to

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<v Speaker 1>Nina's idea, which you know, I guess he felt like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>mine's the celebration of Miami and hers has some maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some heart strings. Do you think that was the right

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<v Speaker 1>choice to go with Nina's story?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, But here's the thing again, It's like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when people reflect on their success and they look like

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<v Speaker 2>and they say, man and obviously a lot of hard work,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of this, but also a little bit of luck.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the moments, right. So it was just really

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunate because this story was told through rumba and that

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<v Speaker 2>is not where he was going to shine the most,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So if they did go with his story

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<v Speaker 2>for Instance'm just giving you an example of where he actually,

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<v Speaker 2>in going and doing the right thing, put himself in

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<v Speaker 2>a much more challenging situation. Yeah, because if they did

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<v Speaker 2>something that celebrated his heritage and Miami and Q and

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<v Speaker 2>Latin and to probably do maybe like a salsa or

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<v Speaker 2>ensemble or something more lively and yes, no, on the surface,

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<v Speaker 2>that is not the most impactful story, but as a performance,

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<v Speaker 2>that would have been a much brighter moment for him,

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<v Speaker 2>and also allowing him to do all of the bells

0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and whistles that he brings to the table. His strengths

0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:26.960
<v Speaker 2>are the versatility of the showmansh and the tricks that

0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.640
<v Speaker 2>he could throw. The backflips, you know, again, that is

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<v Speaker 2>really valuable range and that is really hard to do

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<v Speaker 2>and he's one of maybe two people on the show

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<v Speaker 2>that can do that. It is really important when you're

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<v Speaker 2>competing that you are constantly thinking of strategies that put

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<v Speaker 2>your best foot forward. Now you're you know, not your

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<v Speaker 2>worst foot forward, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to find opportunities to shine totally.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he did the right thing and going with

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<v Speaker 2>Nina's story and kind of respecting that the depth of

0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:03.160
<v Speaker 2>that connection, he put himself in a much more challenging position.

0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Why does that put him in because I can quickly

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<v Speaker 2>see that partnering, especially in the rumba, is in his

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<v Speaker 2>strongest suit and it's really challenged. The rumba is just hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's a hard dance.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a very hard dance. So that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>mean by that now, not that he can't do the

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<v Speaker 2>rumba or you know, there's no other style.

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<v Speaker 1>But so back at the house, Adele is talking to Alan.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants a dedication to her husband, who is also

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<v Speaker 1>her dance partner. Alan wants to perform for his mom.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to watch Dancing with the Stars together and

0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.040
<v Speaker 1>her dream was for him to join the show one day. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>she passed away when he was just fifteen, and dance

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<v Speaker 1>became his life as a result. Adele decides to forego

0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:03.920
<v Speaker 1>her idea and dance for Alan's mom. And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was a very emotional moment for the show. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the first time we've heard about Alan's mom passing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>still very raw for him, even if twenty plus years

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<v Speaker 1>have passed. I thought it was very vulnerable of him

0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:25.199
<v Speaker 1>to open up that way and to know how important

0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:26.520
<v Speaker 1>it was for him to tell this story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, this was definitely the highlight of the

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<v Speaker 2>season for me. And it was just really honest, the authentic,

0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, it didn't feel forced. The reaction in the

0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.600
<v Speaker 2>room was really genuine. And like I said, I know, Alan,

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<v Speaker 2>I was there around him at the time that this happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I you know, I just appreciate that he's

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<v Speaker 2>having this moment to heal. Yeah, and I yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was definitely a very powerful moment. Definitely the moment of

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<v Speaker 2>the season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's now day one of rehearsals. Eric and Natalie have

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<v Speaker 1>decided to tell Natalie's story about finding her voice through

0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:08.600
<v Speaker 1>dance after moving to America from Hong Kong. Eric is excited.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to show the judges he can tell someone

0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:14.320
<v Speaker 1>else's story and place them in the spotlight, since that

0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.959
<v Speaker 1>is a vital element to dancing with the start. Are

0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you are you shaking your head because my hair is

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<v Speaker 1>attached to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, I'm just saying, Eric, that's a winner right there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for me, that's that's a huge quality. You know,

0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:29.080
<v Speaker 2>we talked about, you know, you know, my celebrity being

0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.800
<v Speaker 2>having my undivided attention for three months and focus and

0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.520
<v Speaker 2>energy and just having the right perspective, Like his energy

0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.960
<v Speaker 2>is all about his partner. Yeah, and as a male

0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.040
<v Speaker 2>pro on the show, I think that's a quality that

0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:46.960
<v Speaker 2>is very important, and it's very and really comes through

0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:50.280
<v Speaker 2>when it's there, and I think it comes through in

0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.880
<v Speaker 2>a very endearing and charming way. So he's he's got

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<v Speaker 2>the look, he's got the you know, the skill, and

0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.440
<v Speaker 2>now you know he's got the charm, he's got the heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Aj and Selena decide to tell his story about

0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.480
<v Speaker 1>winning the British Open Dance Championship in twenty fifteen, and

0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.760
<v Speaker 1>it seems like Aj runs a tight ship, giving Selena

0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of notes for technique correction in the jive.

0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:15.400
<v Speaker 1>What did you think about that?

0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:26.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting too comfortable on this podcast episode too. Yeah. Yeah,

0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:30.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think again, it makes good TV at

0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.560
<v Speaker 2>his expense. I guess that's how I want to say it,

0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:37.440
<v Speaker 2>because I don't think it's I like his. I mean

0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:39.760
<v Speaker 2>there's a part to it that I like. I wish

0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:43.480
<v Speaker 2>he just kind of wrapped that arrogance into like a

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:48.440
<v Speaker 2>little softer present, you know, Like, I get it, you

0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.800
<v Speaker 2>did your thing, you won some awards, but so did Natalie. Right,

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:58.160
<v Speaker 2>we got we all got pedigree. Everybody wants something. Now again,

0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:02.399
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that he's a well accomplished competitive dancer and

0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.920
<v Speaker 2>he does have experience as already this job, he had

0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:06.440
<v Speaker 2>this job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand if he's coming in with this feeling of like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna say entitlement, I don't want to use

0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:18.800
<v Speaker 2>that word, but yeah, if he comes in with not

0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:21.399
<v Speaker 2>a chip on his shoulder, but kind of like, you know,

0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:23.040
<v Speaker 2>what am I even doing here? Why do I have

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.520
<v Speaker 2>to go through this process if I already I know

0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:29.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm good enough and I already did this. I can

0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:32.320
<v Speaker 2>appreciate that, but dude, that's what then don't sign up

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.600
<v Speaker 2>for the show, you know. But if you are going

0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:36.640
<v Speaker 2>to show up, you gotta have humility in the sense

0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:38.399
<v Speaker 2>that you got to prove yourself right now. There's a

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 2>reason why you're here and no longer have a job

0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:45.440
<v Speaker 2>there because and so to be here, be present, don't

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:47.720
<v Speaker 2>live in the past of I know this is reflecting

0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.720
<v Speaker 2>on a big story for you, and I'm cool with

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:54.640
<v Speaker 2>doing a story about your winnings. I didn't even hear

0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.040
<v Speaker 2>a word that Selena had to say. I'm not really

0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.640
<v Speaker 2>sure why because I'm sure she also lived a life

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:03.919
<v Speaker 2>and has stories to tell. But I understand that. Okay,

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:05.840
<v Speaker 2>take the lead on that. That's a special moment. You

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:10.640
<v Speaker 2>want the Wimbledon of dance, but it's the rehearsal footage

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:13.320
<v Speaker 2>that kind of you know, when he's using his foot

0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:17.840
<v Speaker 2>to push her hit back. Yea, like I and even that,

0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not gonna I'm gonna have I'm gonna

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:24.239
<v Speaker 2>have some grace on that because that is something that

0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:27.920
<v Speaker 2>would be done in some rooms, you know, and not

0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 2>have like any negative energy to you know. It's just

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 2>like the utility of we're here and I can use

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I get that, but all in all

0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:43.120
<v Speaker 2>together and then that visual, you know, you're not gonna

0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.400
<v Speaker 2>win people over right unless they're into that kind of thing.

0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean even just strategically for the show.

0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Strategically for the show, that is a huge turnoff. And

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:55.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, everything I just said about Eric, you know,

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:58.119
<v Speaker 2>I would say the opposite about about that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Meanwhile, Benji and Nina work on their perseverance piece,

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:06.159
<v Speaker 1>but not all is copasetic. It seems Benji is getting

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>frustrated that Nina is not listening to him. It seems

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 1>as though we have some trouble in paradise.

0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 2>It's so interesting because we just talked about one pairing

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:20.880
<v Speaker 2>where it was like like the pendulum just took continues

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 2>this and then it's swung here, and now you have

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:26.439
<v Speaker 2>kind of like two people that aren't sure what to do,

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:30.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, And like I said, I think Benji quickly

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 2>realized that in doing right by his partner, he placed

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 2>himself in a very vulnerable situation as far as this competition. Yeah,

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and I think that started the frustration of that started

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 2>coming out. Plus again the challenge of it all, you know,

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I could see that again, these are these are high stakes,

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.879
<v Speaker 2>and so these are young people. It takes real self

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:57.280
<v Speaker 2>discipline to maintain your not just composure, but your humility

0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.479
<v Speaker 2>while you're fighting for the biggest break of your of

0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 2>your life.

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and these are things that like doing Dancing with

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the Stars and seeing the way the packages all turn out,

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you can't predict these things. You can't predict that you're

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 1>going to end up having three couples that tell three

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.919
<v Speaker 1>totally different stories, one couple that just seems to have

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.840
<v Speaker 1>such an incredible connection, and everything falls into place so easy,

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.919
<v Speaker 1>another couple that's like, okay, he's pushing her hip with

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>his foot, and then a couple in between is like,

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>are you listening to me? I'm not sure what to do.

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Like it's so well done that you get to see

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 1>all the different scenarios that could happen in partnerships where

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>you have to work together totally. And even if all

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the decisions happened easily, we'll tell your story. We'll tell

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:40.400
<v Speaker 1>your story. It actually didn't all come together easily.

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think again, it's like you're only as

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 2>good as your partner. Yeah, and so if you keep

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 2>that in the forefront of your kind of like like

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.479
<v Speaker 2>just the way you approach it, that that's my approach.

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't mean that I don't have an ego, doesn't mean

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>that I you know, well we all know I do.

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't mean that I'm like, yes, man, but

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 2>I lead with that. I lead in shadow position, you know,

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:12.959
<v Speaker 2>I I don't. I try not to lead with with

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 2>with just brute force, like it's not my way or

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 2>the highway, it's our way. Especially on this show, no

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 2>one's a celebrity and no one's a professional. And that's

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 2>why when I was watching the the aj Selena package.

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>To me, it felt like you're already on Dancing on

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 2>the Stars and you're not right. So again, enough with that.

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 2>I get he doesn't deserve all of that. It's definitely redeemable.

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I like that. You but that that was a that

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>was a very you know, that wasn't a moment I enjoyed.

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:42.879
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Alan and Adele are analyzing their routine looking to

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>incorporate a lift into their dance, which makes Adele very nervous.

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>She did not seem like she was super excited by

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>this lift idea.

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Again because this rolls Royce doesn't fly.

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't have wings.

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have wings, not yet.

0:25:58.080 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 1>How to grip the floor?

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 2>And again that isn't that it's such a I think

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 2>that's what makes this so exciting, And I think that's

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 2>why ballroom translated in this format, because it is so

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 2>opposite of the not the showmanship, but the trickery, the

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 2>circuit silay that people love to see. Like a fundamentally,

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>ballroom is not that we talk about wow moments. The

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 2>wow moment, at least for me, is always the intensity

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 2>and the relationship between the two people. It isn't how

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 2>far I could throw her up in the air and

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 2>catch her, even though again that that exuberance is also important.

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:42.439
<v Speaker 2>But borm dance structurally also is a very grounded dance,

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 2>and so I could see why she's I mean again,

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 2>And when you excel in one, you know, in that

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 2>craft so so much like as she does, you're going

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 2>to find the challenging too. All of a sudden, be.

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Lifted, jump into my hands. I promise I won't drop you.

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:01.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, it's the.

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Most romantic thing over here.

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Surrender, Surrender to my arms. That night, back at the house,

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Nina confides in the group that she and Benji are

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 1>having a struggle coexisting, but Benji thinks sometimes she's just

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>not willing to listen, and privately he isn't so sure

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 1>about the linear nature of her story.

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 2>He's just he's it's a kid from Miami sharing space

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.120
<v Speaker 2>with the chick from the tri state New York area.

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>That's all it is, is just another conversation, I guess. No,

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean again, she's a strong personality. She's has the

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 2>I guess, the track record to speak her truth, you know,

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she's also an accomplished competitor she's not a child.

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 2>She runs her own business. I mean, this is a woman.

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah and she Yeah, she's commanding the space. But again,

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 2>just like with AJ, this is not just your competition,

0:27:56.320 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 2>And just because we chose your story or to tell

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that you're the only person leading this this ship.

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think you know, maybe it got in

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>her mind while we're being judged individually, and so she

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't care as much about how he presented. But when

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you are in a partnership, if you're both dancing, you

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 1>should very much care how the other person looks, because

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>it's only gonna make you look better if they look

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>totally totally, gonna make you look worse if they don't totally.

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Again the cliche phrase, you know that rumba is the

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 2>dance of love, but it's it's also the woman's dance,

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, And it's even more so than any other style.

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 2>This is a style that really presents the lady. And

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 2>so again, huge opportunity because I think men look the

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 2>strongest when they're presenting their ladies, not when they make

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 2>it about themselves. I think that there's a real strength

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>and masculinity to that. But again, like I said, earlier,

0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the rumba really fit his strengths right, And.

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>The next morning, with just one day left until the performance,

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Benji apologizes at rehearsal, he brought her food as a

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>peace offering, and now everyone is working out the kings

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and their routines with some help from Brandon. He thinks

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>AJ's routine has too many bells and whistles to tell

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>a story. He also isn't so sure about Stephanie and

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Tristan and whether or not their moves are working with

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 1>their goal. He doesn't think Eric and Natalie are gelling

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>as people and is questioning if Nina's story is clear enough.

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>And Brandon really comes across like a great coach.

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did a great job, he's Yeah, he was

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 2>very in tune with what they were going through and

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 2>offered some really great insight. I think. Yeah, No, he

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 2>checked out. He was awesome and he you know, he

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 2>called out the things that needed to be called out too.

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, he didn't shy away from speaking the truth.

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 2>No, and I agree with him. I mean, again, doing

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 2>a jive to tell a story? You know, it's funny

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 2>as we talk about who made what choices and in

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 2>regards to who it's like. In that same breadth, the

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>jive isn't necessarily the most feminine right to dance to

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 2>dance either, right, so he definitely not wasn't supposed to

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>be Selena's moment to shine, you know. And again that's

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 2>a testament to when you got it, you got it. Yeah,

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 2>and I love her for that. She said, I'm here

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 2>to work and you keep yep, it's cool, all right,

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 2>and then she delivered Yeah.

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>On the other side of the spectrum, Brandon is very

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>impressed with Adam and Adele. Again. Everyone rehearses through the night,

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>leading to back at the house Human Kangaroo Baby. Robert

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Irwin decides to meet with Alan to talk about his

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>very important story, and Robert, of course knows all about

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>what Alan is going through. Both of them lost their

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>parents a young age, and of utilized dance to deal

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>with grief. Alan thinks this is going to be the

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>closest he's felt to his mom since her passing. It's

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>very sweet to see Robert be able to.

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, totally. I mean, if anybody can relate, Yeah,

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 2>that was a great moment in the show. I think again,

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I love that the show doesn't just highlight dance, but

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 2>really highlights human stories and you know these moments and

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 2>that these guys are all available to tell these stories

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and do so so openly. Yeah. But yeah, I mean,

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Alan is he's that, he's sincere, he's gentle, and you

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 2>know he's been through a lot, and he genuinely loves

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 2>this thing. He loves dance a lot.

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Now it's time for the competition. Robert welcomes everyone back

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>to the ballroom, reintroducing our judges. Now with Brandon in

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the third seat. The first couple is Natalie and Eric,

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>who will perform a Viennese waltz. To hold my hand

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>with the story of Natalie's journey from Hong Kong to

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>America surely reminds us that she had concerns about both

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of their confidence last week. Do we think this was

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>some attempt at a redemption dance for the two of them?

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they did a Viennese waltz, So not about the dance,

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>but just about like she was worried about their confidence

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>last week and then this week.

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean again, you you gain confidence when you're

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 2>more in your element. Yeah, I think this was in

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Natalie's element. She's an expert in this In this style,

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 2>you could accomplish a lot of things when you're confident, right,

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 2>and so I think there was already a built in

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 2>confidence in the fact that, Okay, I need to redeem

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>myself for sure, but I'm at least in a genre

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 2>that that will allow me to do so. Yeah, and

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 2>then Eric, again like perfect partner, did a great job

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 2>packages I mean all of it. And the performance was excellent.

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I know, I thought it was excellent. I don't think

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 2>that they had as much of like an emotional impact,

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 2>but that wasn't the story she was saying. I mean, yes,

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 2>it was emotional, but it you know, it wasn't sorry,

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 2>it was more empowering. It was that it was like

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 2>it was a really sound dance. I know, the like

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I said, I know that the the the assignment was storytelling,

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 2>but it's still got to be a really good dance

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 2>and gotta be technically sound. And this was like a

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 2>plus for me.

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, the judges agreed with you. Surely thinks that Natalie

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>found her confidence this week. She called it divine to

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>watch and compared Eric to Prince Charming, calling him a

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:48.719
<v Speaker 1>perfect partner.

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 2>I could have just called him Prince Eric.

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Prince Eric an opportunity missed opportunity for Prince Eric. You know,

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.719
<v Speaker 1>she loved it. Brandon liked it in practice, but loved

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it tonight and thinks they both did amazing. It was

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>a great showing by all accounts.

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 2>And now time that was a great clean It was

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 2>like really digestible, you know, it was like it wasn't

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 2>too much, it was just it was perfect.

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I know. Shirley said, this is going to be a

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>hard act to follow. And and next up was Benji

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and Nina, so who a partnership that was having some

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>difficulty follows what ended up being kind of a perfect performance.

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>They danced to Harry's styles signed at the times in

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a rumba.

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind, surely yelled off balance mid routine and

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I felt so bad for her for but it's true.

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>What did you think of the performance?

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 2>I love it of Shirley's performance.

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:47.320
<v Speaker 1>No, no, What did you think of Benji plus Shirley?

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, I thought it was very disconnected. I thought

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 2>that she was like back leading. I don't know for

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.240
<v Speaker 2>those that are not familiar with it, again, it's action reaction,

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not it's not a matter of I lead you follow.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 2>It's never that. But it's just like driving a car

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 2>if one person has to steer the wheel right and

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 2>we could take turns. It's not just my car. We

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 2>could both. We could both Daniel drive the.

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Rolls for sure, drive it the first hour. I could

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 1>drive it the next hour.

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. But we're not both hands on, not at

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 2>the same time. So that's what I mean by that.

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>And it felt like she was again just kind of

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 2>taking the lead. And what happens then if it completely

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 2>takes away any sort of responsibility from from like and

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 2>when I say responsibility, I mean like you are my purpose,

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:43.280
<v Speaker 2>My whole purpose and especially this dance is to create

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and initiate your movement and help support your movement. But

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 2>if you have completely taken me out of that equation

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.879
<v Speaker 2>and are just now doing a you know, a contemporary

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 2>looking rumba without you know, I don't need no man,

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:03.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe that is that was but it left him completely

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 2>homeless as far as like, okay, now what do I do?

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it was I said it in the beginning,

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 2>like it was a perfect storm of he did the

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 2>right thing, but it didn't serve him. Yeah, and yeah,

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 2>and you felt it again it was very disconnected.

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, Brandon keeps it one hundred and says he found

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>it disjointed. Mark asks how rehearsal was, and they both

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>agreed they had some communication issues. Benji does take some

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 1>accountability and admits he was confused himself and he could

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>have spoken up. Surely thinks the stance was a disservice

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 1>to Benji and points out that Nina didn't service his

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 1>work correctly. And then we have Stephanie in trist In

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>performing a rumba to Dreaming of You by Selena. Robert

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>thought these two were connected and very much in sync.

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:05.839
<v Speaker 1>What did you think of the two of them?

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I agreed with Shirley. I think the technique was a plus,

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 2>but it was it was the attentiveness from Tristan to

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Stephanie and her again her embracing that. I mean, she

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 2>reciprocated that. Again, back to talk about shadow position. I

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 2>know this isn't going to be visual. People use your imagination,

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 2>but there's a constant connection. And the most obvious are

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 2>the eyes, obviously, but there's even just awareness and just

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 2>an you don't have to stare at me to connect

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 2>to me, but there's a warmth that I that I

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 2>include you on right, and I thought that they had that.

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Plus on top of that, I don't think there's anything

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 2>more powerful than you know, just kind of the focus

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 2>and the fact that he didn't take his eyes off

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 2>of her. That in itself, you know, because as much

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 2>as we focus on technique and this and that and

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the perfect placing over the whatever whatever, Ultimately, when I'm

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 2>watching someone perform, I'm looking in their face and their

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 2>eyes yea, And it's when they lose me there that

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:12.879
<v Speaker 2>I start to pay attention if the toes are point

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>or not. And so when I'm looking at his eyes

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 2>and they're constantly attending to her, I'm not even paying

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>attention to is his foot pointed? It's his technique perfect,

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:27.280
<v Speaker 2>and so that's you know, it's such a small difference,

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>but that's what allowed Tristan, who also isn't a master

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 2>of ballroom of lamba technique and partnering. Maybe he has

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 2>more or less. I don't know what Benji's experience and

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 2>that is, but because his partner was available for him

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 2>to connect with and he was able to really help,

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, just again, it was her dance. Still, she

0:38:54.360 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>was definitely showcased, but he shined because he helped her be showcased.

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 2>And isn't that the beautiful paradox of it all? You know,

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 2>It's like the more you give, the more you'll get yep,

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 2>And the more you take, most likely you'll have a lot, but.

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>No one will like it exactly to watch anymore.

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 2>So I just love that. I love how that translated

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.320
<v Speaker 2>the fact that he was really there for her, and

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 2>and she looked exquisite. I thought she nailed it.

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>The judges completely agreed with you. They mentioned that they

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 1>did want them to work more on their technique, but

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>they thought they worked really well together. They told a

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 1>nice story, and they found it so impressive that Tristan

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>never took his eyes off of Stephanie. And now we

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>have Aj and Selena performing a fast paced jive to

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>run Away Baby by Bruno Mars.

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 2>She wanted to That's what she wanted.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>We are reminded that last week the judges thought Aj

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>played it too safe when he also performed a jive. Uh,

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and then Shirley was confused, why did Aj choose a

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>jive again after being told he played it safe last week?

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And then he repeated some of the same moves with

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 1>that though she thought Selena ate aj for lunch and

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>that she is truly amazing. Brandon thought the story wasn't

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>very relatable, and Mark thought it was technically great, but

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 1>it was it was missing some giddy up oomph. And

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a very funny moment here too, where Shirley says

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Brandon and Mark were very kind with their critiques, and

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Mark laughs saying she hid enough of the harsh points

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>by herself.

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I agree with them kind of collectively

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 2>individually I phrase it differently, but yeah, there was zero story. Yeah,

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, that was zero story. But it was

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 2>a really good dance.

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 2>So I again, it's like, was the assignment here? And

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 2>if the assignment was to tell a story, then there

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.919
<v Speaker 2>was no story at all, not even remotely. But again,

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 2>how do you tell a story? But like like that, right,

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 2>there's ways, there's creative ways you know, they could have

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, if props were available, maybe the trophy

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 2>gets thrown in at the last second behind the camera.

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 2>There's ways to again on a low budget or a

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:13.280
<v Speaker 2>no budget. Yeah again, when you do this show long enough,

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 2>there's ways to enhance your story even though it's really

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:19.439
<v Speaker 2>hard to tell.

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, a story definitely has a beginning, a middle, end,

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 1>an end, and so there has to be a bit

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>of a journey in a story and a.

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Giant Yeah, like she could have stuck a velcro number

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 2>on his back, you know, like tell the story of

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 2>being on a competition. I don't think they had any

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 2>of those elements.

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 1>No, it was just a celebratory give of I won.

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which again I wish he could have included that,

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 2>and that would have wrapped it up nicer. Yeah, which

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:53.399
<v Speaker 2>is after you win a competition. A lot of time,

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 2>they don't do that in Blackpool, I don't think, But

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of competitions, we do what's called an

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 2>honor dance, and so the winner, after receiving their award,

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 2>they play a song of their choice and they come

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 2>out and they do like a solo dance, just one

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 2>last time. So he could have said, like, look, we

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 2>don't have a real narrative throughout the piece, but the

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 2>piece itself is what tells the story of winning Blackpool,

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 2>you know. So you gotta be a little bit of

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 2>a wordsmith in this game too. Yeah, you gotta make

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 2>a story where it's where there isn't. But again I

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>thought zero story, but the dance was excellent. Yeah, and

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 2>now you know that leads to the next thing. It's

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 2>like part of storytelling or being an effective performers. If

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you don't have a really clear narrative like you said, beginning, middle,

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:48.839
<v Speaker 2>and end, then you gotta lead with your own personality

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 2>and emotions and like your story that you're creating in

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 2>the moment with your partner. And so I thought. I thought,

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 2>like I said, they did enough of that. I would

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 2>still love to see him being more supportive Chris partner.

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:05.800
<v Speaker 2>But I thought that she still did really well because

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 2>she don't need no man.

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 1>That's right. She showcased herself.

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 2>She killed it, killed it again, two styles completely different.

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 2>A jive is less dependent on your partner than the rumba.

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 2>But like I said, I think she killed it, and

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 2>the dance itself was really great. I do have to

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.280
<v Speaker 2>disagree on the omph and the pace of the routine.

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 2>I thought it had ophin pace. I thought I thought

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 2>it was perfect. I know they mentioned something about slowing

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 2>down in the beginning or I don't remember if it

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 2>was in this dance or different dance, But I thought

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 2>the dance itself was great.

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yep. Our final dance is Alan and Adele who

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 1>are going to Rumba to see You Again by Wiz Khalifa,

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a tribute to Alan's deceased mother. Now, there was so

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>much emotion in this one. What did you think of

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>these two favorites working together in this fireball of emotion.

0:43:58.440 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, this is what you get when you

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 2>this is what you get. This is what you get,

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:09.879
<v Speaker 2>shout out Sherman. But this is what you get when

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 2>you get two quality dancers come together, like he is

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 2>a craftsman of this of this art, and she's excellent

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:20.279
<v Speaker 2>of this art. And together they did the most I

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 2>guess quintessential ballroom dance outside of the walls, which is

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>the rumba, And just that's magic, you know. I mean,

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 2>that's the essence of why the show has been on

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 2>air for you know, thirty five seasons now going on

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 2>to thirty five seasons is because of that, Because when

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 2>you bring two exceptional ballroom dancers together, you're probably gonna

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 2>get a really quality ballroom dance. Yeah, And that's what

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.240
<v Speaker 2>they did, and they were able to tell a story.

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 2>And I think on top of that, he had a

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 2>real genuine connection to the story that you know. I mean,

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 2>it was like a perfect performance. I thought.

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Alan and Adele are very emotional. Sureley and Brandon tear up.

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Their fellow contestants and Robert are also in tears. Brandon

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 1>calls the performance beautiful and says he will remember it

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 1>until the day he dies. Mark is very impressed and

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 1>looks forward to working with both of them. Shirley calls

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>it by far the best performance of the night and

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the most beautiful things she's ever witnessed.

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:24.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's witnessed a lot of things. I mean she's

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 2>up there.

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 1>She's up there. Yeah, she's witnessed a lot. She's the

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:30.240
<v Speaker 1>founding mother of all dance as.

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 2>We said, Yeah, no, totally. I mean again, it's like

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 2>there's a great dance and at the same time, it

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 2>evoked the emotion that we're looking for and did so authentically. Again,

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 2>it's also nuanced, which is so exciting. But also, you know,

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.919
<v Speaker 2>it's not like two plus two is four, right, these

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 2>two could have bounced off of each other, but they

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 2>really integrated together and they did well together, and she

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:05.479
<v Speaker 2>was But again, also it's not like just standing there

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:08.399
<v Speaker 2>with an emotional face, like you still got to dance

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.879
<v Speaker 2>really well? And I thought they danced really well.

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah they did so, yes, story.

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, emotions, but also on the backdrop of really really

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 2>excellent and impressive movement. Yeah.

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, now it's the moment we all dread. It's the

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 1>elimination time. Robert sets the stage and he asks Mark

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>who is in jeopardy? And it is Nina and Benji,

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the couple who had a tough week with not only

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:39.240
<v Speaker 1>their dance but their communication and their ability to work together.

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that was the right move? Is that

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.399
<v Speaker 1>the couple that should have been on the chopping block

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:44.840
<v Speaker 1>this week?

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I thought. I thought they were the weakest

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 2>performance of the evening unfortunately, but yeah, I thought that

0:46:56.440 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>that was the right Definitely the bottom two were correct.

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I think if aside from performance, if in only the

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>second week, you can't fix communication issues when someone just

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>says I feel like you're not listening to me. The

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:18.359
<v Speaker 1>odds of you now being able to be paired with

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 1>any celebrity and you're going to be able to have

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 1>confidence walking into a scenario where you're going to be

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>able to overcome almost anything they throw at you, and

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, celebs are a weird bunch. We could

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 1>throw a lot at our pros. I feel like they

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 1>deserved to be in the bottom two just for that,

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't really see them ever truly dig in

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:44.319
<v Speaker 1>deep and work on fixing it. It was just kind

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 1>of like, well, I'm sorry, you don't think I'm a

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 1>good listener, and so now let's get back to my story.

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah again, And somebody said it, I think Derek

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.439
<v Speaker 2>said in the first episode and therapist. Yes, So like yeah,

0:47:56.480 --> 0:48:00.120
<v Speaker 2>you're you're a coach, you're a choreographer, but you or

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 2>also a therapist. You have to be again, also, you

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.239
<v Speaker 2>got to be available as a human to be there

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:10.880
<v Speaker 2>for someone else. That's like a whole different quality that

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 2>it isn't for everybody. Yeah, And and that's there's no judgment, no,

0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 2>but that's not that's not a successful pro on our show.

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know one pro that's been successful on our

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:28.439
<v Speaker 2>show that has just had no ability to communicate.

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Over or listen exactly. That's why they need some work

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 1>in that still. And that's so I thought they were

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 1>this was the right move. When all is said and done,

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:41.359
<v Speaker 1>surely reveals that Benji has been eliminated on his way,

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 1>he gives a few final classy words, thanking everyone for

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity, but on the.

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Way out, he slashed Nina's.

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Tired allegedly allegedly.

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Sorry illegal, No, I you know it's interesting. After the

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 2>first episode, I was like, yo, I could see this

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.359
<v Speaker 2>kid as a pro just because of his look, even

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 2>though he's I got the long hair now. But no,

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 2>he just he just had it. He really had it.

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 2>It's but this is the show, you know, somebody good

0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:17.240
<v Speaker 2>is going to go and and and it's.

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 1>A tough job exactly, And he now knows some areas

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:23.920
<v Speaker 1>for opportunity for growth for him. He needs to stand

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>up for himself a little more, needs to be better

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:26.879
<v Speaker 1>at communicating.

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 2>But again, he did the right thing. I don't want

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:33.440
<v Speaker 2>him to like live in regret or or feel like,

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah he was he got the shorter end

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 2>of the stick. He just again he ran into something

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:42.279
<v Speaker 2>that he next time moving forward, he'll be a little

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 2>bit you know, he'll consider that aspect of the game,

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:50.359
<v Speaker 2>which is like, what are my strengths and how am

0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I constantly positioning myself right now? That doesn't mean that

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 2>you're only doing the thing you're good at. That's boring.

0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:59.719
<v Speaker 2>You have to push yourself, but in this competition, you

0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 2>have to lead at least with that and then try

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:05.319
<v Speaker 2>to conquer all the other things. But yeah, I thought

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Benji is very talented and hopefully he continues to dance.

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 2>I know he will.

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>He will for sure. Robert choreographs a final hug between

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the contestants and he wishes us a good night. So

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 1>now we've seen two episodes, do you feel like you're

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:38.320
<v Speaker 1>narrowing down your male favorite anymore? And is Adele still

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 1>your favorite female?

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Adele really had a breakout that first, I

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 2>know that well. First and second, I thought that she

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 2>was excellent. I know it's Alan's story and it was

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 2>an Alan moment, but but she you know, I think

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 2>she supported that story very well and elevated that piece

0:50:57.640 --> 0:50:59.800
<v Speaker 2>and helped him and all of that. It was a

0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 2>great partner, Like she just nailed it. So I thought

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:05.880
<v Speaker 2>that this was a great episode for her. Selena is

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 2>like making an impact. She's just but I know, like

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen Selena shine like this for years on the

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<v Speaker 2>male side against Stephanie. Stephanie's excellent.

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Stephanie's not on the male side, No, no, no, no, no, Okay.

0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 2>People can't see my thinking face.

0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 1>I can see it.

0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:34.439
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for reiterating the people. Yeah, and on the male side,

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:38.759
<v Speaker 2>I think again, Eric is a stand alan obviously. AJ. Look, AJ,

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean this disrespectfully. I think he's an excellent dancer. Yeah,

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 2>definitely has earned his voice in this space. But nobody,

0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:57.359
<v Speaker 2>no matter how many championships you win, earns, you know, ever,

0:51:57.520 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 2>earns the ability to make someone else feel less then.

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that he necessarily had those intentions.

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. But even in the package, the rehearsal package,

0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you saw this, they didn't show

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 2>her crying, but you see Selena when she's given her interview,

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:16.319
<v Speaker 2>she like she had been crying what it looked like.

0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:20.440
<v Speaker 2>And so I'm like, bro, no, that's you know, you

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 2>don't need that. And it's like I said, maybe it's

0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 2>a good TV, maybe it's not, but you don't need that.

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 2>You could be firm, I mean, like you could be

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:35.719
<v Speaker 2>stern rather and and still uplifting. You have to have

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:37.720
<v Speaker 2>you have to have that.

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Tack, especially as a pro on Dancing with the Stars.

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 1>You were going to catch more flies with honey than

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you are Vinegar.

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<v Speaker 2>Danielle, like Selena is just a sweetheart who's trying to

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:53.359
<v Speaker 2>earn her keep. But like, if he was with you,

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 2>and you're also a sweetheart, but what were.

0:52:56.840 --> 0:52:57.839
<v Speaker 1>You going to say there?

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:03.239
<v Speaker 2>You would be like, grab this choke and kick him back.

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Exactly what are you doing with that foot?

0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I think again, I think there's a balance. I'm also

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm also not like an angel, and I understood the

0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 2>utility of their foot. I don't want to also continue

0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:15.800
<v Speaker 2>to talk about the same thing. Aj I'm sure I

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:19.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know him as a person, so I'm sure he's wonderful,

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 2>But just be careful with that.

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Like, and votes are very important on Dancing with the Stars.

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 1>They may not be important on the next pro because

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 1>they're not voting.

0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 2>But totally and also, don't make your life harder than

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:32.719
<v Speaker 2>it already is. Like it's already a challenge, and when

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 2>you're pron and dancing with it's already going to be hard.

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:40.439
<v Speaker 2>Like I just again, I've done the show for so long,

0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I've seen pros. I've seen myself look awful on TV

0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 2>because I overstepped my ambitions, right, and so you got

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:51.840
<v Speaker 2>to learn from that. So hopefully he learns from that.

0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:56.280
<v Speaker 2>I hope he, you know, had had feedback on that, Yeah,

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 2>and moving forward kind of changes that up.

0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:00.960
<v Speaker 1>That is a good point too, because I have certainly

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 1>been unaware of how something I have said or the

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:10.759
<v Speaker 1>tone I've used comes across, Like in my head, I

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:12.799
<v Speaker 1>hear it a certain way, and then I'll like hear

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 1>it played back for me on camera and I'm like, oh,

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:19.799
<v Speaker 1>that didn't sound the way I intended. So hopefully he

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:25.120
<v Speaker 1>watches the episode and sees how it comes across and says, wow,

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I was not proud of myself in that moment, and

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I can learn from this, because that is We're all

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:31.600
<v Speaker 1>going to make mistakes. No one's ever going to have

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:34.319
<v Speaker 1>a perfect season where they go, look at me, I

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:36.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't ever screw up. We all make mistakes. There has

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:38.640
<v Speaker 1>to be room to make mistakes. But if you can

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 1>learn from them and you can grow from them, then great.

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 1>So hopefully totally we see some change from him moving forward.

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Totally, And like, again, I'm not perfect. I have at

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:57.680
<v Speaker 2>least two of those type of days throughout the season. Yeah,

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:01.600
<v Speaker 2>and some have more, some have less. I definitely overstep

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 2>my authority and my ambition, and I want the best

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 2>for you. And in the name of the best for you,

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make you feel like like I have

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:13.399
<v Speaker 2>those days. Yeah, because also I come from that type

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:17.759
<v Speaker 2>of background. You know, not not to excuse myself from that,

0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 2>because I'm an adult and I can't blame my background anymore.

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, you've done your growth, you've done your work,

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 2>and you know how to communicate better. But we grew

0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:30.160
<v Speaker 2>up at a time when it was like, you know,

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 2>it was physical to get you where you needed to be,

0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 2>let alone, verbally semi abusive, you know. So it's like

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:42.520
<v Speaker 2>he needs to change that. That isn't what you're signing

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 2>up for, respectfully, and that doesn't mean that you can't

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:48.160
<v Speaker 2>get the work done. I had a partner, Sochi who

0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:54.319
<v Speaker 2>was who I that coincidence? We want, we want? But

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:56.800
<v Speaker 2>she was I think she was seventeen at the time

0:55:57.040 --> 0:56:00.640
<v Speaker 2>or eight. No, No, I think she was seventeen, you know, seventeen.

0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I thought she was seventeen.

0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, The point is young, young woman. But she had

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:08.920
<v Speaker 2>so much joy and flair and just she just loved it,

0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:11.120
<v Speaker 2>and she was so talented. A lot of things came

0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:14.000
<v Speaker 2>naturally for her, a lot of but she also showed

0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 2>up and worked really hard and so like. But when

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:21.319
<v Speaker 2>we ran into that, overstep a little bit because again,

0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 2>it's not because you're not doing well. I just feel

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:26.320
<v Speaker 2>like if it doesn't hurt, then you're not doing enough.

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:29.640
<v Speaker 2>You know. It's like, but bro, what right? And when

0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I say heard, I mean figuratively speaking, like if it's

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 2>not hard, then are we pushing enough?

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:37.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yo, you gotta change that mindset, you know.

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:40.160
<v Speaker 2>And she actually put me on and I was checked

0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:43.359
<v Speaker 2>by this younger person who like, we sat down after

0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 2>one of those hard rehearsals and she was like, I

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't like that, Like, I don't want to

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 2>do this like that.

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to feel like that.

0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:54.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to feel like that. If I'm not

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:58.960
<v Speaker 2>having fun, you're not going to get anything from me. Like,

0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 2>that's not that is not the energy in which I

0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:06.880
<v Speaker 2>thrive And now different people different totally. I thrive in

0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:10.800
<v Speaker 2>that energy right again, But that's my background, that's that's

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:14.920
<v Speaker 2>my upbringing. But that's not for everybody. And that's another

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 2>part of this show that's so important. You have to adjust.

0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:19.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not your way.

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 1>You have to pivot.

0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 2>It is not a way, is not Bow's way. It's

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 2>not Mark's way. It's the way of your partner and

0:57:28.800 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 2>the the you know, the person that's in front of you,

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:35.440
<v Speaker 2>who you're trying to lead in in this thing, and

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:38.800
<v Speaker 2>who's taking this incredible leap of faith and trust and

0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 2>puts puts that trust in you, and it's so vulnerable,

0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 2>like you have to support that, not just push that.

0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you need to catch that. Mm hmm. And yeah

0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that's my spiel.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you very much. That is the end of

0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 1>episode two. It's in the books. We will continue to

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be taking off my shirt at the con at

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<v Speaker 2>the con, Yeah, a couple of times.

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