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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: These hips are big hips.

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Speaker 3: They need space to move around and they don't fit

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Speaker 3: into little petty places. These hips are free hips. They

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Speaker 3: don't like to be held back. These hips have never

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Speaker 3: been enslaved. They go where they want to go. They

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Speaker 3: These hips are magic hips. I have known them to

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Speaker 3: put a spell on a man and spin him like

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Speaker 3: a top. Hey, welcome to the Black Out Tips five

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Speaker 3: cast your host rode As Karen.

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Speaker 4: I like them hips. Can we be friends?

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Speaker 2: And we're here with a late night edition of the

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Speaker 2: Black Ou Tips Niggas.

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Speaker 4: I was tied, I was pooped.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Car came home, said she had a headache and

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Speaker 3: took a nap. That's the h and I thought, I think.

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Speaker 3: I tweeted out like, hey, might not have a show

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Speaker 3: tonight because Karen's sleeping. I don't know what she's gonna

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Speaker 3: get up. And unlike Eric Kilmonga, I listened to the

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Speaker 3: Black Women in My House, so I said we probably

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Speaker 3: won't have a show. But Karen got up and like

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Speaker 3: shortly after that, I was like, you ready to do

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Speaker 3: the show, so we're gonna do the late night edition.

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Speaker 3: Thank you everybody for tuning in.

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Speaker 4: We had a.

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Speaker 5: Long as weekend and we watched our second viewing a

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Speaker 5: Black Panther and Roger was on Keith and the Girl

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Speaker 5: for those of you that don't know, and we were

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Speaker 5: just up and up and up and up and up,

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Speaker 5: and for you know it, yesterday turned into today and.

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Speaker 4: I was went to bed and had go to work

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to be the diallar negro for Keith

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Speaker 3: and the Girl and go on there and talk about

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Speaker 3: Black Panther. It was a very fun discussion. You know,

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Speaker 3: as always, we love those guys and it's such a

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Speaker 3: great show. It was you know, I would not do

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Speaker 3: that for just anybody because honestly, you know, Black Joy

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Speaker 3: is always fun with them. So if you guys want

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Speaker 3: to listen to it, I think it's called Black Panther.

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Speaker 2: It's the latest episode.

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Speaker 3: There are heavy spoilers for Black Panther all throughout the conversation,

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Speaker 3: plenty of jokes. People that are fans of Keith and

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Speaker 3: the girl. I'm a fan, so there's plenty of jokes

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Speaker 3: from just that standpoint. But you know, at the same time,

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Speaker 3: I hope people enjoy it and stuff. In this episode

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Speaker 2: That's very spoilery about Black Panther.

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Speaker 3: I will let y'all know, and I'll put it at

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Speaker 2: Although I feel like I don't mean to be mean

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Speaker 3: It's such a popular movie within black culture and black

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the proper amount of time to

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Speaker 5: It gets to the point either you're gonna watch it

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Speaker 4: No, nobody know that you might not be able to

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Speaker 5: And that trying it funny. It's not our responsibility to accommodation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel bad for people that would

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Speaker 3: But there's also a lot of him in and hollering over

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Speaker 3: people that have seen the movie talking about it's still

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Speaker 3: You knew this what happened? The part of social media, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: A lot of times you can't even wait past Thursday

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Speaker 3: I prioritize watching movies as soon as possible because of this.

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Speaker 2: Number one the trash can trick.

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Speaker 2: Save his face. That's smart, see you it was against us?

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Speaker 5: That makes sense, because yeah, there's nothing worse than you

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Speaker 3: See this cabin space is always lacking, but this quick

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Speaker 3: You put it places and it gives you a little

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Speaker 2: Do your wonna phone? Won't you tell me now? Won't

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Speaker 3: By the way, shout out to all the black actors

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Speaker 3: But right in a recent statement release at the time,

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Speaker 3: he defined he defined defiantly stated recent claims published in

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Speaker 3: the media that I'm anti LGBTQ are nothing more to

445
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Speaker 3: fake news.

446
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Speaker 2: It's all garbage.

447
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Speaker 3: I unequivcally support the rights of all people without regard

448
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Speaker 3: to sexual orientation.

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Speaker 4: Don't believe you.

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Speaker 3: He also added that he stopped giving a certain groups

451
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Speaker 3: upon learning and that support for anti gay causes, but

452
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Speaker 3: now their allegations that his foundation continues to support many

453
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Speaker 3: organizations with anti LGBTQ community community agendas. Interfitch, for which

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Speaker 3: recently obtained the foundation's annual tax filance from December twenty

455
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Speaker 3: fifteenth to November twenty sixteen, had to make public doll Yeah,

456
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Speaker 3: and the report details about sixty three point seven million

457
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Speaker 3: dollars in grants to these organizations.

458
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Speaker 4: Good god.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: While he did stop giving to those three groups that

461
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Speaker 3: he talked about, there are a number of other organizations he

462
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Speaker 3: did give to. Uh, the Navigators, Dare to Share Ministry,

463
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Speaker 3: Center for Urban Renewal Education, Young Life Movie guid Awards

464
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Speaker 3: are allegedly among the recipients of this foundation. These are

465
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Speaker 3: organizations that have a history of making anti LGBTQ statements.

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Speaker 2: That's not all. His foundation is known for supporting.

467
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Speaker 3: Politicians with extremely conservative views, not to mention French issues

468
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Speaker 3: like the birth and movement.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: He actually supported a candidate who openly questioned Obama's birth

471
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Speaker 3: in America and whether he was truly American regardless. So yeah,

472
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Speaker 3: that you know, and that's like a very popular festival

473
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Speaker 3: for young people and a lot of artists go there.

474
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Speaker 2: And it's a big deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I you know, not that I know for sure,

476
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Speaker 3: but my guess is no one's gonna boycott. My guess

477
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Speaker 3: is that people will continue to attend there and artists

478
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Speaker 3: will continue to go there.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 2: I know Beyonce was gonna.

481
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Speaker 3: Perform, but then she gave birth, which is why she canceled.

482
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Speaker 3: But some people were like, you know, they expect her

483
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Speaker 3: to cancel just because of this news at the time.

484
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Speaker 3: So I don't know, but uh, yep, Coachella, even when

485
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Speaker 3: you're just having fun, like it's just you know, I

486
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Speaker 3: just had I just want to go out here and

487
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Speaker 3: have fun.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and people of all races, creed, colors, and

489
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Speaker 5: sexualities go to Coachella.

490
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Speaker 3: And they say they're banning drugs and Coachella, and shit,

491
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Speaker 3: it's just such a weird. It's funny how conservatives love

492
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Speaker 3: to make that money off of that sin, but then

493
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Speaker 3: they they swear to be against it at the same time.

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Speaker 4: You come on them.

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Speaker 5: A lot of those high children, not all of them,

496
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Speaker 5: why'm not just spending their parents trust for money to

497
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Speaker 5: even go to Coachella, you know, because it's very expensive

498
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Speaker 5: to get there for the average person, can't most people

499
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Speaker 5: can't get tickets to it if they wanted to, and

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Speaker 5: because it's so exclusive for the average person to go.

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Speaker 5: And you made enough money to spend sixty something billion

502
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Speaker 5: dollars against the people that's actually attending your event.

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Speaker 3: Yep, some of the artists on stage.

504
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Speaker 5: But yet you turn around talking about your money says

505
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Speaker 5: otherwise follow the money.

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Speaker 4: I don't care. What the fuck do you say? Your

507
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Speaker 4: money says? Did you believe in support this shit?

508
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Speaker 2: Yep?

509
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: Uh so there was a there was a serial killer

510
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Speaker 3: in Toronto who murdered at least five gay men and

511
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Speaker 3: spread their remains across thirty properties. What and it's eerily

512
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Speaker 3: similar to lawnmower Man Steve v kay novel fictional hard

513
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Speaker 3: story appears to be playing out in real life and

514
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Speaker 3: after Canadian police arrest of the man they believe slaightered

515
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Speaker 3: his gay lovers before hiding that this member remains and

516
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Speaker 3: gardens across Toronto.

517
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Speaker 4: Oh so somebody just go out there to depicting Garrison

518
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Speaker 4: shit and just find it by.

519
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Speaker 3: Parts m Landscape and Bruce MacArthur, sixty six, has been

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Speaker 3: charged for five murders after authorities announced on Monday that

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Speaker 3: they discovered a number of hack courses, corpses, and large

522
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Speaker 3: planters in the city. Oh they earily resembled apply to

523
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Speaker 3: lawnmower man. The Killing is a short story work of

524
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Speaker 3: fiction written by legendary hard writer Stephen King. The book

525
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Speaker 3: centers around the sex crazy landscaper who murders the suburban

526
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Speaker 3: homeowner who hires him. The story ends after police discover

527
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Speaker 3: the victims scattered remains under the backyard bird bath and

528
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Speaker 3: throughout the manicured lawn. Now, as police search for bodies

529
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Speaker 3: of more than thirty properties on more than thirty properties

530
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Speaker 3: that MacArthur worked on as a landscaper, speculation has run

531
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Speaker 3: rampant that.

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Speaker 2: The number of victims could be much higher.

533
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Speaker 3: Right Police believe he mutilated the remains of his victims

534
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Speaker 3: and hit them inside large flower pots. Authorities added that

535
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Speaker 3: he may also have buried parts he tended for his

536
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Speaker 3: clients throughout the city and surrounded areas. He's taken some

537
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Speaker 3: steps to cover his tracks, and he's we have to

538
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Speaker 3: uncover these victims. Hank it signa lead homicide to investigator

539
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Speaker 3: on Ca said at the news conference.

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Speaker 5: And I couldn't even imagine somebody was like, hey, my

541
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Speaker 5: family member missing and they got fucking dismissed.

542
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Speaker 4: I guarantee you some of these people was like, hey dog.

543
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Speaker 5: My family member gone. We don't know what the fuck

544
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 5: happened to him. Somebody do something. The next thing you know,

545
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 5: he fertilizes three miles away at somebody's in somebody's yard.

546
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: You know, fertilized somebody tomatoes.

547
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Speaker 2: How do you even find them right out? But I mean,

548
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Speaker 2: even if I.

549
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Speaker 3: Reported a missing this guy sounds kind of meticulous, and

550
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Speaker 3: no one would think that this is.

551
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Speaker 2: How he was disposing the bodies.

552
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Speaker 4: It's true, and it's.

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Speaker 5: Uh and for some of these people that'll never get

554
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Speaker 5: justice because I guarantee some of the bodies may be

555
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Speaker 5: so decomposed, like you've never been able to pull DNA

556
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Speaker 5: off to identify them.

557
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Speaker 3: Uh yeah. You have to wonder how long he's been

558
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Speaker 3: doing it?

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Speaker 5: Right, how many years or decades? I mean, this man

560
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Speaker 5: is sixty something years old. How long has he been

561
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Speaker 5: doing this?

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Speaker 3: Uh? The digging first again January eighteenth, the day he

563
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Speaker 3: was arrested when police issued to search one for or

564
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: to homeowner Careen Fraser and her husband Rod Smith, who

565
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: allowed their helpful neighbors stores to store some of his

566
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Speaker 3: landscaping tools on their property exchange for free yard work.

567
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Speaker 3: It really took the two of us to form a

568
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: sentence and try to make a plan. Fraser the whole

569
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Speaker 3: Canadian broadcast of CBC during the interview.

570
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Speaker 5: Oh so he was like, well, let me put myself here,

571
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Speaker 5: I just do your law free.

572
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, cool, not realizing what the fuck

573
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Speaker 4: he was doing.

574
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Speaker 3: I simply couldn't think. I was so horrified. Every aspect

575
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: was more hard fined, and I just it's just really

576
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: hard to take. Fraser said the rest came as a

577
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: complete shock, telling CBC that MacArthur presented himself as a

578
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 3: con friendly friend, always willing to lend a hand you

579
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Speaker 3: have to in the day. He's been kind of helpful

580
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Speaker 3: help with our charity work during the floor, gifts for

581
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Speaker 3: silent options, on having fucking body parties in the flowers.

582
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Speaker 4: You know what I was about to say that, and

583
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: so many people here the PAB never see again.

584
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Speaker 5: Would nothing for him to stick a finger, a toe

585
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: or two and shit and ship it off.

586
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: He had been under police suspicion since September, is part

587
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: of a probe into disappearances of several men in Toronto's

588
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Speaker 3: Gay Village. Area, but investigators didn't have enough evidence to

589
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: charge them. On the evening of January eighteen, police surveillance

590
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: team saw mail Date go into his nineteenth floor apartment.

591
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: Fearing for the man's safety, the cops kicked in the door,

592
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 3: rushing side, where they found the man bound to make

593
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: Arthur's bed post, shaken but unharmed. Oh, they found pictures

594
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: on MacArthur's alleged victims on his computer, which offered the

595
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: first clue to how he initially taught that initially tied

596
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Speaker 3: him to the murders.

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Speaker 4: Oh, so they have.

598
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 5: They was like, somebody was like, hey, we need to

599
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 5: watch this dude. So some dude go up there and

600
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 5: they was like, no, what, let's let's go check on

601
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Speaker 5: this person because you know, we got suspicion and he'd

602
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 5: been doing some fucked up shit. Guess what they got.

603
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Speaker 5: And imagine if they'd been a little longer, he'd have

604
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Speaker 5: been dead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they may have had surveillance inside the house too,

606
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: who knows, wrecked, but I don't know for Forensic investigators

607
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: believe they found blood from a least for the victims

608
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: in the apartment as well. Police have already proved a

609
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: number of similar unsolved disappearances for men from the Gay

610
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: Village area, including one man in twenty ten and forty

611
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: year old Skaed dearage Nevarretnam, who dated MacArthur, according to

612
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: Daily Extra. As yet, police have not linked MacArthur to

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00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: that case. Experts voice a noted caution, though, wanting that

614
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Speaker 3: attempts to link MacArthur to a string of similar unsolved

615
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: disappearances might be premature. It's more than likely they began

616
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: killing only recently as a response to the confidence his

617
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Speaker 3: successful attempts inspired in him, said Enzo Yaksik, who's the

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Speaker 3: director of Northeastern University's A Typical Homicide Research Group. But

619
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Speaker 3: you know, he was just speculating. It is desirable to

620
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Speaker 3: attribute several open homicide cases to one of the offender,

621
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Speaker 3: but the likelihood that MacArthur ranks among the most prolific

622
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: serial killers is unlikely. The criminal profile said, the serial

623
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Speaker 3: killers sometimes take decades to begin killing as they struggle

624
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Speaker 3: internally with their imposed to kill. MacArthur was initially charged

625
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Speaker 3: the two murders. Those are Salim Easton forty four and

626
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Speaker 3: Andrew Kinson, forty nine. Both are poorly missing from Toronto's

627
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Speaker 3: Gay Village area. At separate times last year. Their bodies

628
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Speaker 3: have not yet been found.

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Speaker 2: Police.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they believe both men had sexu relations with MacArthur

631
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Speaker 3: and the suspect. I suspect the victims use dating apps

632
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Speaker 3: in common. He was charged three Castital Council first degree

633
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Speaker 3: murder also on Monday, and the fresh charges relate to

634
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Speaker 3: the deaths of Majid Kahan, Sir Rouche Marmoody and Dean Lissowick.

635
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Speaker 3: I wonder if he's targeting certain races and nationality, some

636
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Speaker 3: of them brown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I wonder a part of that is like, well, they

639
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Speaker 3: won't look for this person, correct, you know?

640
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Speaker 2: And maybe in.

641
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 3: Certain religions and cultures it's less. Maybe it's even more

642
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: of a taboo to b gay, so maybe there would

643
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Speaker 3: be less people looking for them.

644
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Speaker 2: Maybe correct. I don't know, prostitute. I'm just speculating.

645
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Speaker 3: I have no idea, but it makes me wonder because

646
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: I know a lot of times with serial kills and

647
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: ship they attach themselves to groups that they the ones

648
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Speaker 3: that are prolific and get away with a lot of

649
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: times they do it to people that they don't think

650
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: anyone would care about to look for. But yep, uh,

651
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Speaker 3: at any rate they caught them, We'll see how many

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Speaker 3: people it is. This club night is making sure trans

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Speaker 3: people of color get home safely. Pussy Palace is spelled

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Speaker 3: p x X like X letter x p x s

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Speaker 3: s Y Palace is doing something special for trans the

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Speaker 3: transfeminine community.

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Speaker 4: UH.

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Speaker 3: They have made a name for themselves as an all

659
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Speaker 3: inclusive London club night, a run by women with that

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Speaker 3: prioritize the safety in front of its clientele. His latest

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Speaker 3: move has been to offer free taxis Home for Transfeminine

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Speaker 3: people of color MUH. Trans people of color often targeted

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Speaker 3: the target of hate crimes and abusive behavior, and the

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Speaker 3: move has been greeted with positivity throughout the community. Nardine

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Speaker 3: artois Or artois I Guess, one of the founders of

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Speaker 3: the Club Nights, said they believe the Club Knights have

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Speaker 3: a responsibility to look after their guests.

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Speaker 2: Our policy and the tools.

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Speaker 3: We use to implement it is how we fight against

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Speaker 3: sexual harassment and violence. She said transferms of color are

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Speaker 3: the most risk at risk to these forms of abuse,

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Speaker 3: so now we have substantial regular guests and followers, we're

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Speaker 3: in a position to offer the most vulnerable gas a

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Speaker 3: safer way to travel home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of dope right now.

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Speaker 5: Why people can go have a good time and you

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Speaker 5: know that you can go home safe. You don't have

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Speaker 5: to worry about walking home, you don't have to worry

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Speaker 5: about being harassed on your way home.

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Speaker 4: You know you've got a trip home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Stonewall research in twenty seventeen found that one in three

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Speaker 3: lgd LGBTQ plus people of color has experienced a hate crime,

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Speaker 3: in comparison to one in.

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Speaker 2: Five white LGBTQ people.

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Speaker 3: Additional research into the trans experience released in January of

687
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Speaker 3: this year found that more than two out of five

688
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Speaker 3: trans people avoid certain streets to stay safe, and almost

689
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Speaker 3: half fear or avoid using public restaurants due to restrooms

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Speaker 3: due to assault. Right, so often we require trans friends

691
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Speaker 3: of color to bring the party, get the esthetic, bring

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Speaker 3: the noise, but never care about how we are getting home,

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Speaker 3: said Travis albonsa performing writer who praised Pussy Palace on

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Speaker 3: Twitter for putting action to a politic Within and outside

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Speaker 3: the community. We face heightened violence and often the ostracize

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Speaker 3: and the most attacked. And although this move from Pussy

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Speaker 3: Polace doesn't stop, all that recognize the structural ways depression

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Speaker 3: affects our social lives. Myself and a group of trans

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Speaker 3: friends read the message last night. Let out side relief

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Speaker 3: and the smile. In a climate that often erases our struggle,

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Speaker 3: it felt important to be recognizing.

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Speaker 5: Her perfect point for the fact that, yeah, a lot

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Speaker 5: of times did the trendsetters. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 5: times people come for them. And it's also one of

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Speaker 5: them things where you take the money you want them there.

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Speaker 5: You know, you want the dollars, but you don't actually

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Speaker 5: want to deal with them as as an individual person,

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Speaker 5: you know, and deal with the issues and problems. And also,

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Speaker 5: I think it's smart for the establishment itself.

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Speaker 4: Client taeble I should go up because people go, oh,

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Speaker 4: I can go here, I can be safe.

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Speaker 3: And there's also just like in addition to hopefully the

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Speaker 3: genuine moral like, hey, this is the right thing to do,

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Speaker 3: this is a smart thing.

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Speaker 2: We want to help people.

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Speaker 3: In addition to that, you also have the public goodwill

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Speaker 3: and the positive public relations from us. You don't surprise

718
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Speaker 3: more businesses don't take advantage of positive public relations, even

719
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Speaker 3: from a cynical capitalistic standpoint, like sometimes you have nothing

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Speaker 3: to lose by being like, yeah, we're the place that

721
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Speaker 3: doesn't mind that shit, and you'll be on the right

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Speaker 3: side of history too, as opposed to these places that

723
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Speaker 3: are so like fuck that.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, it probably won't cost you much money,

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Speaker 3: you know it probably you know, all you're doing is

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Speaker 3: getting the uber for somebody more than likely or whatever

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Speaker 3: they have over there. I don't know what they have

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Speaker 3: for Rocher, but you just you know, it's just a

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Speaker 3: it's an easy win.

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Speaker 2: And you.

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Speaker 4: Compared to what that person spent to.

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Speaker 2: Go there, and hopefully it caused the change.

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Speaker 3: And other clubs do it out of either competition or

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Speaker 3: just because it's a great idea.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's kind of dope, not dope.

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Speaker 3: Egypt anti gay rays LGBT rights activists fear widespread brutal crackdown.

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Speaker 3: UH and LGBT activists working underground in Egypt has accused

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Speaker 3: of government of sparking panic by relaunching a brutal anti

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Speaker 3: gay crackdown the boost popularity ahead of elections. Egyptian police

741
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Speaker 3: arrested ten people in Alexandria after neighbors told the authorities

742
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Speaker 3: that they had seen people who looked different North Sutan.

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Speaker 3: The Coordinate, or the Egyptian wing of the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual,

744
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Speaker 3: Trands and Intersects Association told The Ivy Times UK the

745
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Speaker 3: group has since been convertly providing the detainees with legal

746
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Speaker 3: support and food. When news of the arrest on the

747
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Speaker 3: fourteenth of January broke, the ILGA worked to give the

748
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Speaker 3: detainees access to lawyers and donated food or supplies the

749
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Speaker 3: loved ones to pass on during prison visits. The latest

750
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Speaker 3: arrests bring the number of people to tanks since September

751
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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen for allegedly being gay or trans to eighty five.

752
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Speaker 3: Human Rights Watch has called the crackdown and assault on

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Speaker 3: LGBT rights. In twenty sixteen, three hundred people were arrested,

754
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Speaker 3: good god, just for being gay or trans. Just up,

755
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Speaker 3: well you look gay or trans, you gotta put you

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Speaker 3: in jail.

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Speaker 5: Right, and Americas want to see here in four they

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Speaker 5: ms go, that's not us. The hell it ain't I

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Speaker 5: we if we can legally do that, they be doing

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Speaker 5: that bullshit here.

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Speaker 3: They might try to bring it back knowing these politicians right.

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Speaker 4: Internment camps and all that bullshit don't. Yeah, and that's amazing.

763
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Speaker 4: I think today is like the day that day started.

764
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Speaker 5: Internment camps for like Japanese Americans, Like they started rounding

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Speaker 5: up random and like two thirdsone was American citizens.

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Speaker 4: What the fuck are we talking about here?

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Speaker 5: Don't you don't think America ain't above just fucked up shit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some of the Chinese have been subject to aintal

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Speaker 3: examinations with no medical basis. As such, these procedures amount

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Speaker 3: to torture and breach of international law. According to Anerty International,

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Speaker 3: being gay at trans it self is not illegal in Egypt,

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Speaker 3: but officials are using a sixty year old debauchery law

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Speaker 3: and that take tackling prostitution. It's another reason that it's

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Speaker 3: important to get these laws off the books. One of

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Speaker 3: the things that happens, we have a lot of still

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Speaker 3: have a lot of these laws in the books.

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Speaker 2: That what happens, the law doesn't practice them anymore.

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Speaker 3: So you're not really going to arrest somebody for the

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Speaker 3: practice of buggery or quote unquote or you know, you're

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Speaker 3: not supposed to arrest people for like side of me

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Speaker 3: and shit like that. But it still exists, and I

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Speaker 3: guarantee you some people still do get arrested for you know,

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Speaker 3: like right now, we consider stuff like side of me

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Speaker 3: to be like sexual assault or.

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Speaker 2: You know, something like that.

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Speaker 3: But technically they've used what the fuck sorry going on?

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Speaker 3: Technically yeah, and I cut that off too, that was weird. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: Technically they've used side of me in the past to

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Speaker 3: arrest gay gay men who are having consensual sex to

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Speaker 3: be like, you know, not necessarily like in a public

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Speaker 3: place or something illegal, but like just having like, hey, y'all,

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Speaker 3: that's side of me, y'all, nigga's going to jail, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, like this extra little thing to

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Speaker 3: put on your you know, to put on your on

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Speaker 3: your rap sheet. Keep in mind, they never stopped charging

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Speaker 3: rapists with side of me and shit. So now I

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Speaker 3: how the fuck I'm gonna get a job, and I

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Speaker 3: gotta put side of me on my fucking.

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Speaker 2: You know, have you been convicted of something?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, side of me, but it was consensual sex with

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Speaker 3: my boyfriend. Uh yeah, we're not gonna hire you just

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Speaker 3: in case, right, you know, that's also what they accuse

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Speaker 3: people that, you know, sexual assault people are. So I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna have to take an air on the side

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Speaker 3: of caution.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's that shit.

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Speaker 3: So but yeah, apparently this is what happened when you know,

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Speaker 3: get those walls off the books correct. They also said

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Speaker 3: the clampdown started last year after two individuals unfer the

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Speaker 3: railbow rainbow flag at a concert of the Lebanese rock

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Speaker 3: band Mashru Layla, whose singer is openly gay. So they

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Speaker 3: decided to crack down on all gay people because someone

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Speaker 3: had a pride flag at a concert. Well, this is

814
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Speaker 3: just going too far now, it's trying to lock up

815
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Speaker 3: gay people. What the fuck in the way of the concert?

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Speaker 3: A group of fifteen MPs presented a draft law that

817
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Speaker 3: would criminalize every aspect of LGBT life. Those found guilty

818
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Speaker 3: of engaging in same sex relations will face up to

819
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Speaker 3: fifteen years in prison. What activists believe to raise our

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Speaker 3: means of distracting from the nation's felling economy. That okay, well,

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Speaker 3: who the fuck is gonna be Like, I forgot how

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Speaker 3: I didn't have a job.

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Speaker 2: It was gay people was out here.

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Speaker 4: Y'all can get some extra money. Zero from zero equals zero.

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Speaker 3: During the crackdown and after proposal new laws, people were

826
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Speaker 3: very afraid and panicking. There was a moment of silence.

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Speaker 3: We didn't hear about any new arrests. But this week

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Speaker 3: we started hearing about another round of arrests at Alexandria,

829
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Speaker 3: and we all started panicking again. We are afraid this

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Speaker 3: is a new crackdown or continuation of the last one.

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Speaker 3: She added, It's definitely a distraction from the problems of

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Speaker 3: the country to raise the popularity of government, to show

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Speaker 3: that are still protecting morals and have control man.

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Speaker 5: And that's why when Egypt was having their elections and

835
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Speaker 5: raiding and shit like that, Americans act like that would

836
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Speaker 5: not problem like that shit was real over there.

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Speaker 3: Pitting the public against LGBTQI people has been an easy

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Speaker 3: scapegoat for many governments to pivot attention away from the

839
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Speaker 3: actual problems of the country. It's easier to get mad

840
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Speaker 3: at the gays than it is to actually fix what is.

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Speaker 2: Broken, correct Rasheema Quadra.

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Speaker 3: Edge I gay rhetoric has been building in Egypt since

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Speaker 3: the twenty thirteen military coup. Nila Goshaal, who researches lgbt

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Speaker 3: I rights issues in Africa for the advocacy group Human

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Speaker 3: Rights Watch, previously told ibt Ipy Times. UK police officers

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Speaker 3: have posed as users of gay dating apps such as

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Speaker 3: Grinder and Hornet in order to target the community.

848
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Speaker 2: All the time.

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Speaker 3: Imagine that you just go on an app to meet

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Speaker 3: up with somebody to sleep with them, and boom. Y'all

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Speaker 3: still notice that morality never crosses over in the head

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Speaker 3: or sexual shit, Like, isn't it just as a moral

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Speaker 3: for heterosexual.

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Speaker 2: People to have sex out of wedlock?

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Speaker 3: Yet somehow, you know, for all the people I'll see

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Speaker 3: y'all see as a siren, they never they never.

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Speaker 2: Viewed that as let's put these people in jail.

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Speaker 3: They're having they're having assist had sex without even fucking uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, getting married or following all the tenants of

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Speaker 3: their religion or like. That's never the morals that get

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Speaker 3: cracked down on us always gave people because it's easier

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Speaker 3: to scape. It's easier to escape though LGBTQI people, and

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Speaker 3: it's easier to fucking get the rest of people with

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Speaker 3: privileged to either ignore it or be.

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Speaker 2: Complicit in it. Correct.

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Speaker 3: That's that's fucking sad man. It's weird because Egypt is

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Speaker 3: one of those places. I don't know much about Egypt,

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Speaker 3: but I still remember the whole like Arab Spraen thing

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Speaker 3: and Twitter really coming into like this revolution and there's

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Speaker 3: gonna be young people and they're gonna take over, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It just seems sad, like what happened

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Speaker 3: to that momentum, you know? But yeah, they said sometimes

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Speaker 3: the police will tech be will text you pretending to

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Speaker 3: be a day and talk to you for months before

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Speaker 3: you know, getting you and arresting you. So they basically

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Speaker 3: want to make you scared to even use those sites

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Speaker 3: to contact each other talk, especially if they'll go months

878
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Speaker 3: like that's psychological warfare there, and that you.

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Speaker 4: Should be illegal. Why are you own these sites perusing

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Speaker 4: for these.

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Speaker 3: People because being gay is illegal. It's the opposite way.

882
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Speaker 4: It wasn't illegal, but they was using laws.

883
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

884
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: It is listen, because being you can you can say

885
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: being gay isn't illegal, We don't mind. But then if

886
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna use this fucking lot arrest me, it is illegal.

887
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: Else, you know.

888
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 3: Right, It's like when they want to pass a sagging

889
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: pants law. We know what that means, niggas, right, y'all

890
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: not gonna arrest pop Papa Jones who fucking owns a

891
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: farm and has sagging overalls when he goes to pick

892
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 3: up his bait at the tackle shop.

893
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: Like nah, y'all not gonna arrest him. Y'all gonna arrest.

894
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: Fucking Lamont who's anamalrow and his pants sagging a little bit,

895
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: y'all gonna fucking take him to jail like I know,

896
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 3: a fucking you know, tainted ass load when I see

897
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 3: one dog.

898
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: Right, agreed.

899
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: A transgender woman becomes the first in the world to

900
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: breastfeed exclusively for six weeks after do it yourself homeown

901
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: therapy and breast pumping.

902
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for all the you can't have I mean,

903
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: if you can't take care of baby da da da.

904
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: You know, I think this also kind of strikes it

905
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: just the idea of like gender roles and what we

906
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 3: consider gender in general, correct, you know, but yeah, transgender

907
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: woman's will come to first in the world exclusively breastfeed

908
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: her baby despite not giving birth nor undergoing gender re

909
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: assignment surgeries. The thirty year old woman who has been

910
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: identified who has not been identified, told doctors at Mount

911
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: Sinnin Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery that our partner

912
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: was pregnant but did not wish the breastfeed, and she

913
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: helped to try instead for three and a half months

914
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: before the birth. The woman put up adulsal hormone replacing

915
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: therapy with the patient obtained WISH the patient obtained in Canada,

916
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: as well as breast pumping it until she could produce

917
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: eight ounces of milk each day. By the time the

918
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: child was born, the patient was producing enough milk to

919
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: exclusively nurse for six weeks, then continue breastfeeding alongside other

920
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 3: food sources for six months. Uniquely, she hadn't had any

921
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: gender reassignment surgeries like a breast augmentation or a vagina

922
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: plasty to construct the vagina of ova, which can change

923
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: a person's hormone level in theory and in theory affect

924
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: ability to breastfeed. The case study published to today in

925
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: the General Transgender Health is the clearest evidence to date

926
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: that do it yourself hormone therapy can allow transgender women

927
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: to experience the experience of childbirth and pregnancy. We believe

928
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: that this is the first formal report in the medical

929
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 3: literature of induced lactation in a transgender woman. The doctor

930
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: patient's doctor, Tomorrow Riseman, MD, said the milestone was a

931
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: breakthrough for transgender medicine, and we're happy that the patients

932
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 3: share her experience with us and we're happy to help

933
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: our patients build happy, healthy transgender families. Yeah, I actually

934
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: love shit like this because one science but then too

935
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: like to be able to like kind of go against

936
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 3: the kind of either the binary structure of gender or

937
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 3: the idea of like you can't do this. And that's

938
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: like because people use these arguments a lot of times

939
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: to say what people like this is wrong because your

940
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: body can't and it's like you don't know what the

941
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: fucking body can do.

942
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and a very small percentage of men. As you

943
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 5: get to breast cancer, people better realize that. So you know,

944
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 5: the tissues are in both sexists. You know, yours is

945
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 5: just a chant in mind is a breast, but it's

946
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 5: it's still the same tissue.

947
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.

948
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: You know, and it gives people hope too, you know,

949
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: because we spend so much time like being obsessed with

950
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 3: these by when I don't know, I feel like the

951
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: world can be bigger than that.

952
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: The proceeds from Lush bath bomb go towards.

953
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: Transgender rights charities those a night of self care is important.

954
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 3: There's nothing more. There's more to Lush bath Bombs than

955
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: the colorful fizzle and sugs. The brand which was just

956
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: named one of four's Best Employers for Diversity. Is well

957
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: known for releasing products that benefit of good costs. For instance,

958
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: the proceeds from the brand's charity pot Lotion eight dollars

959
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: go to fund and organizations to help fight for environmental conservation,

960
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 3: animal welfare, and human rights. Now another product will serve

961
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: an equally important charitable purpose. Meet the new Hard Shape

962
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: Inner Truth bath Bomb six dollars, out February fifteenth. All

963
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: of its sells will go directly towards transgender right causes.

964
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: This is all in honor of Lush's hashtag trans Rights

965
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: Our Human Rights campaign, which kicks off today. The next

966
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: time you stop by your local Lush, you'll see the

967
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 3: stores usually bright display taken down, and the place will

968
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 3: be quotes from Lush staff members about gender identities, such

969
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: as my identity is not a trend. In a press release,

970
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: Lush explained that the golden company is the raise four

971
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand dollars for trans rights activist groups.

972
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 3: The brand will also launch the hub Lush USA dot

973
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: com slash trans Rights, which aims to provide resource for

974
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 3: anyone to trans or questioning community.

975
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: Brick and mortar stores will.

976
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: Give away seventy five thousands how to be an ally

977
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: manuals assist gender shoppers. Along with that, shops will be

978
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: home to community events, and the brand will use a

979
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: snapchat to discuss hot button trans issues and release short

980
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: documentaries on the topic. Wonderful, God damn they went in

981
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: and even a better reason to support the Their product

982
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 3: is excellent. Yeah, they I mean, that's dope too, And

983
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: like I said, there's a positive pr to shit too.

984
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: We always talk about negative pr like when you fuck

985
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: up or when people, you know, we'll even speculate sometimes

986
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 3: like oh this company said this thing that's fucked up,

987
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: so they would go.

988
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: Viral or whatever, but we very rarely we.

989
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: Talk about like or you have companies that are like not,

990
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 3: we're on some positive shit, We're on some progressive shit and.

991
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: We're in business and we're making money.

992
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: And that makes money too, you know, Like you don't

993
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 3: everything that have to be regressive to make money, everything

994
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 3: that have to be sensationalistic to make money, you know.

995
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, they're gonna be some haters, you know, but

996
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that walk in that store

997
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: that probably quote unquote don't agree with with LGBTQ lifestyle

998
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: quote unquote, and they love those fucking products, so their

999
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: money is going to a good cause. Like we always

1000
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: talk about the opposite, like, you know, hey, just because

1001
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 3: you got Netflix doesn't mean you don't support Monique or

1002
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 3: black women or whatever. And I agree, I don't think

1003
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: it does mean that. But there's also stuff where you know,

1004
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 3: or I eat Chick fil A, I don't hate gay

1005
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 3: people or something like, I completely understand. But there also

1006
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: could be the opposite, you know, like some of these

1007
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: companies can take this money from people that you know,

1008
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 3: they might be Trump voters, but now they're helping out

1009
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: LGBTQ people via their money going to Lush.

1010
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 5: You know, right, he said they'll spend their product own

1011
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 5: hip because it's good and they like it.

1012
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's get out of here on those

1013
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: are two good stories. Or to stop, I know, I.

1014
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: Know, before it goes downhill, we do have some fucking

1015
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: with black people. Before we get into that, I did

1016
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: want to say Ryan Cougler and Michael B. Jordan have

1017
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 3: to make a film about African King Matsu Mansa Mansumosa,

1018
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 3: the richest man in history. And I don't really care

1019
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: about the details of it, but this is one of

1020
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 3: the reasons that Black Panther was so important. And while

1021
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: Ryan Coogler doing you know that, while him even doing

1022
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 3: that was so important, you know, while him even getting

1023
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 3: Black Panther, and while Michael B. Jordan being in it

1024
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: was so important. The money from that enables those dudes

1025
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 3: to get make dreams come true that they've had since

1026
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: however long.

1027
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 5: You know, because wise don't know if we ever got

1028
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 5: this movie right.

1029
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: So I'm glad that.

1030
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 5: And I'll be spending my money whenever that come out

1031
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five, whenever it come out.

1032
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we often talking about black history didn't start with

1033
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: slavery and shit like that. But you know how many

1034
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: times have have we had these moments where it's like,

1035
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: we don't have movies to even teach people what happened

1036
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 3: before that, you know, we don't even have the resources

1037
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: to turn around and say this was you know, this was,

1038
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: like this is what this this is what was going

1039
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 3: on before slavery and we and not in a factual

1040
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: like documentary way, but even in a way where you

1041
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 3: do get to play up the heroic aspects and you

1042
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 3: do get to fictionalize certain events, and you do get

1043
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 3: to show a camera that loves black skin and there's

1044
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: no white person in it to be the narrator or

1045
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 3: the director or.

1046
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: Their version of the events that you know, they.

1047
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: Have to like come in and kind of bastardize.

1048
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 4: I actually really.

1049
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 3: Love that these are the dreams and they're not alone.

1050
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that either got paid, made connections,

1051
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 3: or we'll be able to get financed via black panther,

1052
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 3: you know.

1053
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 5: And if somebody didn't think about think about the stunt doubles,

1054
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 5: like like the people that are like the almost like

1055
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 5: the unseen faces, a lot of those people are gonna

1056
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 5: end up getting jobs. They was like, oh my god,

1057
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 5: we've seen the stunts that you did.

1058
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 4: We're not up that world. But people hear about these days.

1059
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 5: Like oh, you did the stunts for such such a

1060
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 5: why won't you come and do the stunts for Mission

1061
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 5: Impossible or whatever?

1062
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 4: The next hot thing is It doesn't always have to

1063
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: be black.

1064
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 5: It could be their work can actually put them in

1065
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 5: other realms of work to make more money.

1066
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they and they do have black stunt men,

1067
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: black camera people, black I mean they got black every

1068
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 3: man correct, you know, like everything they could go fire

1069
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 3: black people to do. They fucking did, and now those

1070
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 3: people can have on their resume.

1071
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: I did this movie.

1072
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 5: And one of the biggest things for me is that.

1073
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 5: And I know a lot of people will ignore this.

1074
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 5: How are so many people from Black Panthers do y'all wigs,

1075
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 5: do y'all makeup? You know, do your clothing, because y'all

1076
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: be having people look fucking crazy sometimes on screen.

1077
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 4: And it's not even movies.

1078
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 5: Start hiring so many people for TV shows because a

1079
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 5: lot of people who actually do like the news and

1080
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 5: TV shows. Some of those women, if they can't afford it,

1081
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 5: they actually have their own makeup and hair teams that

1082
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 5: follow them everywhere they go. Because when you walk into

1083
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 5: a place, you don't know if the person there knows

1084
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 5: how to do your hair, knows how to do your makeup.

1085
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 5: Have you look at ashy three shades too light, three

1086
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 5: shades too dark? They don't know what they doing, or

1087
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 5: they do something one time they don't know how to

1088
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 5: replicate it again, Like shit like that matters.

1089
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I still remember that woman in that role.

1090
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: That Ryan Coogler shouldn't have done, shouldn't have taken a

1091
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 3: job to do Black Panther, and she resented the fact

1092
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: that him losing his like indie credibility and he should

1093
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 3: kind of just stick to the whatever.

1094
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: She also wrote.

1095
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 3: Recently about how the me Too movement was going too far,

1096
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 3: So take that with a grain of salt. But you know,

1097
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 3: I still remember reading that piece and I couldnot have

1098
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 3: vehemently disagreed with it more than I than I did.

1099
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 3: And you know, two years later we get this like

1100
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: the fifth highest grosser opening of all fucking time. What

1101
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: are you talking about? You know, they so scared that

1102
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 3: we're gonna get a little power and.

1103
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: Not want to not be able to tell us what

1104
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: to do, you know.

1105
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 3: And that's because he can take his money and pour

1106
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 3: and his influence and Disney and all these connections and

1107
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: pour it into into this next film about an African

1108
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 3: the richest African man in the history of the world

1109
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 3: or whatever, like the richest man in the history of Well,

1110
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 3: he can get to do that and beg that story

1111
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: that he may have thought of when it was fucking

1112
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 3: fourteen and been like, wouldn't this be cool? Or even

1113
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: if he thought of it a day ago, I don't

1114
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 3: give a fuck. But he can now go do his

1115
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: dream passion project. That's why you do this ship, and

1116
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 3: that's why the gates being open for people Matter's why

1117
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 3: Oscar so white matter. That's why you know, getting these awards,

1118
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 3: getting these studio jobs, That's why me too matters. Honestly,

1119
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 3: it's access to power for people, but it's also access

1120
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: to their dreams, and that representation does matter to a

1121
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: lot of people to see themselves on screen.

1122
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 4: Correct.

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00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's do some fucking with black people here

1124
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: we go.

1125
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 6: Wrong, My bad, We're just fucking with those black people.

1126
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 2: We're just fucking with those blacks.

1127
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 4: We're just fucking with fuck with black people.

1128
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 3: That's right, guys, trying to play the game called fucking

1129
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: with black people. We go all around the globe, find

1130
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 3: different articles make us feel fucked with. We'll sign for

1131
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: scores with zero one hundred intervals, twenty five today's contestants. Everybody,

1132
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: All right, let's see who's fucking with us today. WSVN

1133
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: TV producer was suspend it after spewing the N word.

1134
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: I wonder which N word? It was?

1135
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 3: Nasty then compute naggers, ws negros in secure. WSBA Channel

1136
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 3: seven producers been supended, pending the station investigation to an

1137
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: ugly video of an argument with a neighbor in which

1138
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: she spewed out the N word. Robin Cross forty nine,

1139
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: a twenty five year news veteran who has worked for

1140
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 3: CBS four, NBC six in Miami, and CBS twelve in

1141
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: West Palm Beach, Oh Floydah.

1142
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 4: Down there with all the brown people down there in Florida, as.

1143
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 3: Well as WIOD six ten am radio, has been told

1144
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: to stay home and write a statement explaining to her

1145
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: side the story stay home and right U stay.

1146
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: She only got suspended.

1147
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 3: Reached this morning, the day of her second anniversary. At

1148
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 3: the statement, she declined, I mean the station. She declined

1149
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: to comment, but a source familiar with a statement said

1150
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 3: Cross is telling the station officials she's been broad in

1151
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 3: the neighborhoods Pew since moving Forward Lauderdale out of Venice Drive.

1152
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: Four years ago.

1153
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: She says her neighbor Robert Fenton and his family have

1154
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 3: been harassing her by parking near the house. Cross says

1155
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 3: she just lost her cool Tuesday night at a sorry

1156
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: after she hey, I just lost a cool, calling niggers

1157
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 3: my bad. You know how it is off night after

1158
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 3: she parked in a retired car dealer Fenting and he

1159
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: came out of her took in front of her. The

1160
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: video of the conversation film by Fitnings Crystal Clare. The

1161
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 3: argument turned particularly nasty when Cross showered him with four

1162
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: letter bombs. Uh, you don't fucking own the road. Crosses

1163
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 3: her telling Finton that that he told her she is

1164
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 3: blocking his driveway.

1165
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: This is such a white woman, right, this is such

1166
00:56:59,320 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 2: a white woman.

1167
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 4: And she probably fucking.

1168
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: Was like, what's white?

1169
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: Oh no, if we're doing fucking with black people, she's

1170
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 3: definitely white. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, this is such a

1171
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 3: white woman, and she probably was blocking his driveway. Yeah yeah,

1172
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: so yeah, oh yes, yes, yeah, yes, yes, yes she

1173
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: was in the She was definitely right, and.

1174
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 5: He was like, bitch, I don't give a fuck about

1175
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 5: you being white mood you goddamn car.

1176
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 4: She was like, oh, you niggas ain't gonna tell me

1177
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 4: what to do today.

1178
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: You don't fucking on the road. I guesitee.

1179
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 5: She was wrong, guarantee you to my following out with

1180
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 5: but yeah, you've probably have been doing racist shit or

1181
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 5: shit like this, and they probla been like, hey.

1182
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 4: Stop doing it. Bullshit.

1183
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: She definitely says fucking with that a in there, you're

1184
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: not fucking.

1185
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 4: Down the road.

1186
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: It's not your fucking road.

1187
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 3: Marie's okay, Uh, but yes, she said, you don't fucking

1188
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 3: down the road, Crosses her telling fitting after he told

1189
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: her she is blocking his driveway.

1190
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: Cross then launches to a ti rade about.

1191
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 3: How street parking is illegal anyway, but the six six

1192
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 3: year old Finn who also parks there when.

1193
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: The space is open. Uh.

1194
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 3: At the end of the fifty second video, Cross can

1195
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 3: be her saying, yes, I used the fucking I used

1196
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: the word fuck if you haven't heard it before except

1197
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: for your fucking son who's dating a fucking nigger. Finally,

1198
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: I said it out loud. Cross said, Oh, finally, I

1199
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 3: said out loud. She says that she walks away fitten' son.

1200
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: Local lawyer Avery Fenton caused his girlfriend a wonderful woman

1201
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: who often joins him when he visits his dad. By

1202
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: Wednesday morning, Avery Finton had written a letter spelling out

1203
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 3: the incident that ended up on the desk of WSVN News.

1204
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: Directed Tommy Gonzalez, along with the video.

1205
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: In his letter, Avery Fenton asked for the Fox affiliate

1206
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,479
Speaker 3: to fire Cross. Your employee reduced my girlfriend and nothing

1207
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: other than the slur based off of color scan last night.

1208
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: That's not seeing what's not seeing the video, said Dad

1209
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 3: Robert finton Is that at one point Cross was waving

1210
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 3: her WSVN press credentials at him. She was using our

1211
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: press condifferent credentials as a weapon. It's saying, look at

1212
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 3: who I am, how much power I have. I'm gonna

1213
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 3: get you. Obviously she is very big at it, and

1214
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 3: there's something very wrong with her, said the elder finton

1215
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 3: So and of course the state to said they couldn't

1216
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: comment on personnel matters.

1217
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1218
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: Fucking down the road. Uh yeah, so zero to hundred?

1219
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 4: Can oh she gets a hundred?

1220
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one was pretty pretty easy.

1221
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: California police work with neo Nazis to pursue anti racist activists.

1222
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1223
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: Okay, say that again, California police.

1224
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 3: Worked with neo Nazis, okay, to pursue anti racist activists.

1225
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 4: That makes no sense.

1226
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: So y'all work with racist to pursue people that's against racism.

1227
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1228
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: But y'all don't even think all police is bad. And

1229
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 3: that's Cali, you know, I mean home of the LAPD

1230
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: and everything. But that's supposed to be Cali. The liberal

1231
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: bashing of America could be his own country.

1232
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 4: You ain't racist.

1233
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would have voted for Obama twice or three

1234
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: the third time they could have. California police, investigating a

1235
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: violent white nationalists event, worked with white supremacists in the

1236
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 3: effort to identify counter protests and sought the prosecution of

1237
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: activists with anti racist beliefs. The records, which also show

1238
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 3: officers expressing sympathy with white supremacists and trying to protect

1239
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 3: a national neo Nazi organizer's identity, were included in a

1240
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: court brief and from three anti fascist activists who were

1241
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 3: charged with felonies at the protesting at the Sacramento rally.

1242
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 3: The defenders were urged urging the judge to dismiss the

1243
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: case and accuse California police and prosecutor of a cover

1244
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 3: up a collision with fascists. Yeah, how do you not

1245
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 3: dismiss that case immediately? The defense lawyer, here's the thing,

1246
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 3: the anti for motherfuckers. People don't like here and shit,

1247
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: but it's the truth. And Trevor Noah is right. They

1248
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: not really on our side necessarily. I have no sympathy,

1249
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 3: Like I don't feel bad when they punch a Nazi

1250
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 3: and shit, like, I like, good, fuck them, I don't care.

1251
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 3: But I'm not stupid enough to be like, well because

1252
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 3: they out here punching Nazis, they are down with.

1253
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: Black people and shit, because they really not.

1254
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 3: You know, Like I saw a video in DC, I think,

1255
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 3: whereas a black dude being like, hey, why the fuck

1256
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 3: are y'all burning shit in the middle of our street?

1257
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: Stop and the white people are basically like accusing him

1258
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 3: of being some type of coon. He's like, nope, fuck Trump,

1259
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 3: I'm black. I support, you know, protesting against the president

1260
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 3: all that shit, but I live here and y'all don't

1261
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 3: and y'all drive into this fucking city, into my neighborhood

1262
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 3: and y'all burn shit up, and y'all fuck shit up,

1263
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 3: and I gotta stay.

1264
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 5: Here, right because chaos and then you leave and we

1265
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 5: got to do with the aftermath, right.

1266
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 3: He's like, just don't do like, He's like, protest, hold

1267
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 3: your signs up, do all that ship, but can y'all

1268
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: just not start this fucking fire and end up burning

1269
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 3: sh it up? They and they and these white people

1270
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 3: basically looked at him like, shut the fuck up. You

1271
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking.

1272
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 4: About because they white, right and that, and that they.

1273
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 3: Would the Antifa motherfuckers, you know what I mean. So like,

1274
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 3: I'm not stupid enough to think that're on our side.

1275
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 3: That being said, it's obviously what side the polices are

1276
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 3: you working with Neo Nazis fucking arrest and prosecute the

1277
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 3: fucking Antifa motherfuckers with felonies?

1278
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: Like Yo, what the fuck was that? I'm supposed to

1279
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: believe you ain't racist.

1280
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: I'm so believed that if one of those coups arrests me,

1281
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: one of those sympathized with these neo Nazis, that I'm

1282
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 3: gonna get a fair trial, that I that that that

1283
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: I got a good chance of getting pulled over and

1284
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 3: getting my rights respected.

1285
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 2: I'm so believe that my face man. Yeah, the fence

1286
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 2: lawyer said.

1287
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: The case at the state Capitol offers the latest example

1288
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 3: of the US law enforces appearing allow with neo Nazen

1289
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 3: white supremacist group while targeting anti Fastest activists and Donald

1290
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: Trump protest is at the violent clashes. It's shocking and

1291
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 3: really angry to see the level of collusion and the

1292
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 3: amount of wish the police cover up for the Nazis said,

1293
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 3: you've at for lack of the Berkeley teacher anti fascist

1294
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 3: organizer charged with assault and rioting at their participating in

1295
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 3: June twenty sixteen Sacramento rally. What she said, she was

1296
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 3: stabbed and bludgeoned in the head. The police who were

1297
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 3: victimized by the Nazis were then victimized by the police. Wait,

1298
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 3: the people who are victimized by the Nazis were then

1299
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 3: victimized by the police and the district attorneys. Yep, they

1300
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 3: all work together, of course. Steve Grippy, chief Deputy District

1301
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 3: Attorney prosecuting the case of Sacramento Vamily, denied the claims

1302
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: of bias, and an email to The Guardian the legend

1303
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 3: and anti fascist stabbing victims have been uncooperative, and noting

1304
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: that his office has fouled charges against one of the

1305
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 3: members of the Traditionalists Working Party, the neo Nazi group

1306
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 3: that organized the rally.

1307
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay, that one person.

1308
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 3: Some California Highway Patrol investigation records, however, raised questions about

1309
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: the police investigation tactics and communication with the tap for

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01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 3: Laker's attorney obtained numerous examples of HP officers working directly

1311
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 3: with the TWP after treating often treating the white nationalist

1312
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: groups as victims of anti fascists and suspects. I'm sorry

1313
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 3: treating the group the National White Nationals Group is victims

1314
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 3: and the anti fascists as suspects.

1315
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: TWP is intimately.

1316
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 3: Allied with Neo Nazis and the other hardline racist organizations

1317
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 3: and advocates of racially pure nations. According to the Southern

1318
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: the Southern Property Law Center, its leaders have praised Trump,

1319
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 3: and the group claims to bring more than one hundred

1320
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 3: people to Charlottesville white supremacist rally where a counter protester

1321
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: was killed.

1322
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: But you know they the real victims.

1323
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 3: In one phone call with Doug McCormack, identified by the

1324
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 3: police as a TWP affiliate who acquired the permit for

1325
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 3: Sacramento rally, HP investigator Donovan Ares warned that it warned

1326
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 3: him that police might have to release his name in

1327
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 3: response to public records requests. The officer said he would

1328
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 3: try to protect his name. I'm gonna suggest that we

1329
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 3: hold that a redacted name of something to this gifts,

1330
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 3: was all the officer told the white supremacist, adding that

1331
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 3: he didn't know who had requested the records.

1332
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: Or the pot permit, not that if I did, I

1333
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: would tell you that can't be okay.

1334
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, McCormick was armed at the rally with a knife.

1335
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 3: The officer's right up about an African American anti fascist

1336
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 3: activist included a photo of him at the hospital after

1337
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 3: the rally and noted that he had been stabbed in

1338
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: the Adam in Chester in hand. Aris, however, treated the

1339
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 3: protests like a suspect of the investigation. The police investigator

1340
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: recommended the man be charged with eleven offenses, including disturbing

1341
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,919
Speaker 3: the peace, conspiracy, assault, unlawful assembly, and wearing a mask

1342
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 3: to evade police. As evidence, he provided a Facebook photo

1343
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,959
Speaker 3: of the man holding up his fist. The officer wrote

1344
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 3: that the man's black Power salute and his support for

1345
01:05:55,360 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 3: anti racism activism demonstrated his intent and motivation to violate

1346
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 3: the civil rights of the neo Nazi group. He was

1347
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 3: ultimately not charged, even though this police officer did suggest

1348
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 3: that he be charged for a Facebook picture.

1349
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 2: Will I'm holding up his fists in a.

1350
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 3: Black Power salute as proof of eleven felonies that they

1351
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: were gonna put that he thought that shit would hold

1352
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 3: up in court or they would intimidate him enough to

1353
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 3: make him plead to something right as reports also know

1354
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 3: that for laca's political activism and great detail referensent our

1355
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 3: activism on behalf students of color and women rights protest.

1356
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: This is a textbook's case of political witch.

1357
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 3: Had selected prosecution shot the driver, one of Flaka's attorneys

1358
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 3: said in the interview. Officers also work with TWP member

1359
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 3: Derek Punio to try to identify anti Fastest activists. Recordings

1360
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 3: revealed officers interview Poonio in jail after he was arrested

1361
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 3: for unrelated domestic violence charge. This motherfucker being women in

1362
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 3: their life, Like, hey, can you help us? I know

1363
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 3: you got the messic vouce charge. I know you hit

1364
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 3: your wife or whatever. Here's the thing, can you help

1365
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 3: us track down some of these people that don't like

1366
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 3: racism because we really could use some help, because we

1367
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 3: just there's a lot of people going out here that

1368
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 3: just don't like racism and they are fucking on my nerves.

1369
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: By the way, the police aligning.

1370
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 3: Against people who are against racism should tell you what

1371
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 3: about the police. What is this about the police that

1372
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 3: they feel that it is in direct conflict to policing

1373
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 3: to be against racism and that poleople that pull remote

1374
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 3: racism and white supremacy are on the side of the

1375
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 3: police and to be treated as corroborators instead of hostile of.

1376
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: People to be taking off the streets.

1377
01:07:55,640 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 3: I mean messaging clear as fuck to me, the officer said,

1378
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 3: we're pretty much going after them, and assured him we're going.

1379
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 3: We're looking at you as the victim when they talk

1380
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 3: when talking about trying to uh to this wife beating

1381
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 3: man or girlfriend beating man, about trying to.

1382
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: You know, arrest these anti racist activists.

1383
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 3: U Aris noted that Ponio was on with a knife

1384
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 3: at the rally and that one stabbing victim to officers

1385
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 3: to believe Poonio is responsible, use a video footage. Areas

1386
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 3: also know that Punio was in the vicinity of another

1387
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 3: victim at the time that he was injured, but the

1388
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 3: officer said the evidence ultimately wasn't clear.

1389
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: Ponio and McCormick now keep in mind.

1390
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 3: Black powerfits on Facebook, clear evidence of eleven felonies. Video

1391
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 3: evidence of a dude who had a knife near two

1392
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 3: people who got stabbed not clear evidence.

1393
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: Not we don't know what happened.

1394
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 3: There Ponio McCormick, who could not be reached from comment,

1395
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 3: were not charged. Uh Aris report includes images and names

1396
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 3: of three of the TWP affiliated men who they said

1397
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: were Arwa knives would also have faced no charges. So

1398
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 3: since they all had a knife, how can we tell?

1399
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 3: The CHP declined to comment. In response filed on Thursday,

1400
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 3: prosecutors said every assertion in the mention to dismiss is

1401
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 3: inaccurate and fabricated, and accused for Laka's lawyers of using

1402
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 3: the filing to make a political statement. The response also

1403
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 3: repeatedly blamed the stabbing victims for ignoring the district Attorney's inquiries.

1404
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 3: Despite the fact that we have not gained the cooperation

1405
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 3: of these victims, the investigation to hold their attacks responsible

1406
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 3: continues forward. Prosecutors also said the charges were based on

1407
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 3: video evidence and argue that no one has believed the

1408
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 3: protection of the law, no matter how repugnant his or

1409
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 3: her rhetorical misguided his or her ideas. Allegations of police

1410
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 3: bias and collision with Neil Notis have emerged in similar

1411
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 3: cases in the US. Last year, US prosecutors targeting anti

1412
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 3: Trump protests and Watchington DC relied on video evidence from

1413
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 3: a far right group with a.

1414
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: Record of deceptive tactics.

1415
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 3: At an Oregon alt right event, police allowed a member

1416
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 3: of the right wing military style group to help officers

1417
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,560
Speaker 3: arrest in anti fascist activists.

1418
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: Police in Charlottesville, Will Riley accused.

1419
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 3: Of standing by and I attacked prosecute protesters and a

1420
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 3: black man who was badly beaten by white supremacists was

1421
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 3: later charged with a felony. So yeah, it's you know,

1422
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 3: we know it's hard to police home, but I'm supposed

1423
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 3: to trust them with my life to protect and serve.

1424
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:21,560
Speaker 2: A hundred for me? Same, yep, let's see.

1425
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 3: A Bronx teacher used a disgusting physical exercise to show

1426
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 3: how it feels to be a slave.

1427
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

1428
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 3: Students and parents at Bronx Middle School one one eight

1429
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 3: were man, it's up with New York schools lately were

1430
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 3: shocked to discover that social studies teacher Patricia Cummins went

1431
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 3: to disturbing Leans to teach her class about slavery. She

1432
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 3: picked the black students in the class and made them

1433
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 3: lie down on the floor, at which point she stepped

1434
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 3: on their backs to show them what slavery felt like.

1435
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 5: Bitch, you'd you step on my motherfucking child. Don't you

1436
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 5: put your feet on my God damn, I'm surprised somebody

1437
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 5: didn't go down that and bring that motherfucker down.

1438
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel that, you know, there's gotta be other ways,

1439
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 3: maybe using our words, maybe you know, reading a passage

1440
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 3: from a book. You know, I feel like there has

1441
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 3: to be something other than stepping on a black child's.

1442
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 4: Back and something that you bought up.

1443
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 5: It is about history when you know you've been reading

1444
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 5: about history and shit like that.

1445
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 4: Because you have a lot of white.

1446
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 5: Women who teach our children and they're very ignorant to

1447
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,759
Speaker 5: a lot of shit. They think that this shit is okay,

1448
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 5: because she did not think it was okay, and it

1449
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 5: wouldn't not surprise me if this is not the first

1450
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 5: she's done other shit. This might be the first time

1451
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 5: she has quote unquote stepped on children, but she has

1452
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 5: did some other questionable shit.

1453
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:50,440
Speaker 4: I guarantee you something.

1454
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 5: Gonna break where they were like, well, she did smack

1455
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 5: a kid, but we dismissed it, or she did have

1456
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 5: them chained up walking it, but we dismissed that.

1457
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 4: Like like it don't start out on ten like this.

1458
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 4: It's the small ship that.

1459
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 5: She's probably been doing over the years, their parents have

1460
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 5: been complaining about and they've ignored a lot of times.

1461
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 4: By the time you get to these extremes.

1462
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 5: They've done other shit, like all these stories come out

1463
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 5: when it was in this school system and people complaining,

1464
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 5: we put them in. We shipped them to over here

1465
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 5: with with some other brown children to abuse, when at

1466
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 5: the end of the day, they should not she should

1467
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 5: not be in anybody's classroom.

1468
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 2: Yep.

1469
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 3: She picked three of the black kids, made them way

1470
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 3: on the floor, and then she said, you see how it.

1471
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: Feels to be a slave? How does it feel?

1472
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 5: And my thing is this what happened if one of

1473
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 5: them children were like, bitch, don't touch me.

1474
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 4: Like what happened if one of them children but like,

1475
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 4: I'm not doing this. Yep, they would have been charged

1476
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 4: right like like like that. They would have been like

1477
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 4: that child would have been sitting for some shit that

1478
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 4: this is ridiculous. Yeah, I m'd have been like, yo, baby,

1479
01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 4: you're right, don't do that shit.

1480
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1481
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 3: We trust our uh, we trust these teachers to take

1482
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 3: care of these kids, right, and then you end up

1483
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 3: in this situation. But yeah, she was removed, but only

1484
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 3: for a few days right.

1485
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 4: Which means she went right back to the same fucking children.

1486
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 3: She returned to class on Thursday. Later, on the same day,

1487
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:19,839
Speaker 3: she was reassigned away from children.

1488
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 2: Whatever that means. While the investigation is.

1489
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 3: Not being completed, these are deeply disturbing allegations. The alleged

1490
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 3: behavior has no place in our schools. A society said

1491
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,440
Speaker 3: Education Department spokeswomen Toyr wholeness.

1492
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 4: They came me.

1493
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 5: With that because it is. Because if it wasn't, we

1494
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 5: wouldn't keep seeing situations like this pop up all the time.

1495
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,440
Speaker 4: It's like the light the woman Yankee and Lena Horns.

1496
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 5: Pitch you down and just cutting it because they can.

1497
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 5: They do it because they can. They do it because

1498
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 5: the system allows them to.

1499
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has no place, but yet that's the only place,

1500
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 3: you know, it keep happening, right, you know.

1501
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel bad for whoever Toyr Wholeness is.

1502
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 3: She didn't do it, probably assisted it, probably got nothing

1503
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 3: to do it with her job. But still, you know,

1504
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 3: it's the spokes part. Just you know, unless y'all get

1505
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 3: rid of this motherfucker households believe it has no place,

1506
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 3: because it clearly had a place.

1507
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: Four days later, when y'all brought her.

1508
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 4: Back, bought her back dog.

1509
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: One hundred right, bought her back.

1510
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 3: Employees at Michigan at a Michigan bar, gave biracial coworker

1511
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 3: watermelon with happy half MLK Happy Black.

1512
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: Day written on it.

1513
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 4: Who okay?

1514
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 2: The owners of Darbs Driving and Eatery and Mason, Michigan

1515
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,480
Speaker 2: is attempted to apologize.

1516
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 5: Also, what you're gonna half apologize like that half fucking watermelon?

1517
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 2: Boys? That egg all over my face?

1518
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 4: Oh man, all over my face?

1519
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: What a mistake. I did not know.

1520
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 3: I couldn't we didn't know my whoops. Yeah, they are

1521
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 3: tempted and apologized. According to Lanza State Journal, the incident

1522
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 3: was brought to the public at the Kelly Martin. Amory

1523
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 3: posted on Facebook status Facebook status on the weekend and

1524
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 3: included pictures of the watermelon, expressed her outrage and her

1525
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 3: daughter's treatment. According to Amory, this is not the first

1526
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 3: time her daughter's face is kind of inappropriate behavior in

1527
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 3: the workplace, noting that her daughter's boss sometime calls her

1528
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 3: half see. I've sat and steward on this and I'm

1529
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 3: furious about decided to post to see what everyone thinks

1530
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 3: my daughter got this on Mlkday because her work, including

1531
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 3: her boss, thought this was including her boss, thought this

1532
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 3: was okay. It is not come on, people just off

1533
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 3: on so many levels. She is biracial, hiss to happy

1534
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 3: half MLK Day. This is on top of many comments

1535
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 3: or boss feels free to say included and calling her half.

1536
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 3: See please share, hashtag not okay, hashtag racism still exists,

1537
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 3: hashtag let let's.

1538
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 2: Move forward, not back. It is.

1539
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 3: Even the wording of her outrage, by the way, which

1540
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not knocking her wording, but it still

1541
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 3: speaks to how insidious racism is. She says she's stewed

1542
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 3: on this for a while. She said her daughter's been

1543
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 3: called this name many times. She said, this has been

1544
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 3: a hostile work environment from the jump, and this was

1545
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 3: just the bridge too far. And that's really the insidious

1546
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 3: thing about racism, because that makes you doubt yourself. We

1547
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 3: went out to eat last night, and we went to

1548
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 3: this restaurant and I still don't even really want to

1549
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 3: know if I want to say the restaurant's name, because

1550
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure what happened and I don't want to.

1551
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 3: It makes you second guess yourself. I'm thirty nine years old.

1552
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm a black man. I've been black my whole last life.

1553
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 3: I think I know racism when it's happening, when it's

1554
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 3: but I also feel like part of racism is you

1555
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 3: get gas lit, right you feel you feel like you're

1556
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 3: the one being too sensitive? Am I reading too much

1557
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 3: into this? Am I making something about racist or not?

1558
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 3: But we went to this restaurant. We walk in, it's

1559
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 3: after the Black Panther. We're wearing our you know, I

1560
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 3: think I had a room for everybody black shirt all.

1561
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 3: Karen had her one hundred percent black Nutritional Facts shirt

1562
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 3: and her furrow was out, and you know, we're walking

1563
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 3: and you know, we're standing around for a second, hoping

1564
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 3: to be set and then like eventually someone comes over

1565
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 3: to us and it's like, oh yeah, and we've been

1566
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 3: here a couple of times before, but during the daytime,

1567
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 3: during lunch, and then now it's dinner, and so this

1568
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 3: guy comes over and he's like, oh yeah, the host

1569
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 3: is over there.

1570
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 2: Go to there. I was like, okay, cool.

1571
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 3: So we go to the houses like area and there's like,

1572
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, four people in front of us.

1573
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're all.

1574
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 3: Together like two individual couples, like two different couples, and

1575
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 3: they walk right up in front of us, and the

1576
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 3: houses comes over and seats them immediately. Then she comes

1577
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 3: to us and she's like, okay, what use a fifteen

1578
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 3: minute wait? I'm like, I feel like you just sat

1579
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:50,520
Speaker 3: those people in front of us immediately.

1580
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm tripping.

1581
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 3: Maybe they waited their fifteen minutes and now it's their turn,

1582
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 3: and we don't know what we're talking about. Keep in mind, guys,

1583
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 3: I'm not exaggerating when I say almost the entire inside

1584
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 3: this restaurant was empty. Now, I'm like, maybe do they

1585
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 3: only sit people outside after a certain period of time.

1586
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 3: But then I look inside and there is one table

1587
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 3: where they got food and they're sitting inside. There's a

1588
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 3: bar area where people are by a bar, and she

1589
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 3: was like, well, yes, fifteen. And so soon as she

1590
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 3: said fifteen minutes, even though me and Karen looked around

1591
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 3: like I don't see nobody, I was like, we'll wait

1592
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes.

1593
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: That's fine, you know, cause I was like fuck it.

1594
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 4: And then she said twenty.

1595
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 3: As soon as I stay at fifteen, she goes or twenty,

1596
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 3: as if she was looking for a number for me

1597
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 3: to be like, oh, that's just too much. I was like, okay,

1598
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,919
Speaker 3: well if I wait fifteen, then obviously I wait twenty whatever,

1599
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 3: you know. So she's like, okay, well, if you guys

1600
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 3: want to go to the bar, maybe get a drink

1601
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 3: or something.

1602
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 2: And I was like all right.

1603
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 3: So we walk up towards the bar and I'm like,

1604
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to get a drink at the bar.

1605
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 3: And I'm starting to put it together, like why aren't

1606
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 3: we sat yet? You know, Like I'm looking around, like

1607
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 3: why couldn't we just sit it? When these tables, you know,

1608
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 3: I look at this couple who sitting at the table

1609
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 3: and they're eating food, and I'm like, clearly they can

1610
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 3: serve food on the inside. To you know, I'm putting

1611
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 3: this together, and I'm slowly kind of like getting upset

1612
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 3: and starting to be like.

1613
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 2: Is this racist? Is this racist? You know?

1614
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 3: And even though I felt like I knew immediately as

1615
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 3: soon as she told us it was a wait and

1616
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 3: other people didn't have to wait. Now to their benefit,

1617
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 3: no couple came in behind us. So I don't know

1618
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 3: if that if like another couple would have came in

1619
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 3: and they weren't black or they would have been sat

1620
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 3: right away or something. I don't know, And you know,

1621
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 3: she's just essentially standing around at thehing.

1622
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, just standing around that little station. Nothing's happening.

1623
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 3: We made eye contact a couple of times, she looked away,

1624
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 3: and so eventually, you know, I'm talking to Karen. I

1625
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 3: was like, baby, I think this is just racist, and

1626
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 3: you know, I hate that kind of It's like it

1627
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 3: took me five or ten minutes, but I hated it

1628
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 3: even kind of like have that moment of like, yeah,

1629
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 3: I think these motherfuckers don't want us in here, you know,

1630
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 3: or at least she didn't.

1631
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.

1632
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 3: Like I said, I've been there plenty of other time,

1633
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 3: No problem, no problem. So I was like, all right,

1634
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 3: you know what, fuck it. I don't want to be

1635
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 3: somewhere where I'm not wanted anyway. And two, I don't

1636
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 3: want to turn my life into a fucking I'm not

1637
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 3: trying to be become an activist over this. I'm not

1638
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 3: gonna fight you over whether or not I got to see.

1639
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 3: And honestly, she had plausible deniability on her side. She

1640
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 3: could have just really said no. The couple in front

1641
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 3: of you also waited fifteen minutes, and you didn't see.

1642
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 2: That because y'all just walked in.

1643
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 3: But they waited by the bar fifteen minutes and that's

1644
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 3: when they got sat and we only sit people outside

1645
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 3: or so it could.

1646
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: Have been anything.

1647
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 3: And I didn't even want to hear whatever the fucking

1648
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 3: excuse she had. I just knew it in my bones,

1649
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,759
Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't want to eat here anymore.

1650
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 3: And so we went somewhere else and ate, and Karen

1651
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 3: was gonna write like a Yelp review about it and stuff,

1652
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 3: and I mean, I'm I'm like, if you want to

1653
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 3: send it, go ahead.

1654
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 2: It's accurate. But I that's the incitious.

1655
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 3: Part of racism. I still don't know for a fact,

1656
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 3: she didn't say anything racist to me. She I didn't

1657
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 3: see somebody else get treated differently than me for sure,

1658
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 3: like cause I didn't know how long that couple was

1659
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 3: there for us. I like, literally I'll never know, but

1660
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 3: I know, you know what I mean, And I don't know.

1661
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it's funny because like that's one

1662
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 3: of the reasons people love black panthers so much.

1663
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:34,799
Speaker 2: It's escapism for black fantasy.

1664
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 3: For two hours and fifteen minutes, right, it's a place

1665
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 3: we can all kind of go as black people and

1666
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 3: be like, I don't have to worry about the treatment

1667
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 3: that I'm going to receive in this movie theater. In

1668
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 3: my mind, for it's a space where I can just

1669
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 3: be like, oh, what if a magical land existed like this?

1670
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 2: Right?

1671
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 3: Anyway, all that to say, even the way this woman

1672
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 3: wrote this comment, look at how much shit she took before,

1673
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 3: and she didn't even feel certain to be like this

1674
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 3: is racist and fucked up? Right, She's like, what do

1675
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 3: y'all think about it?

1676
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 4: Right?

1677
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 5: Because that's the thing about racism is the subtleties of it.

1678
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people think, you know, it's

1679
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 5: the old school put on a hood and hang a

1680
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 5: nigga by a tree. No, it's subtle slices, it's small cuts,

1681
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 5: it's tiny knicks. You know that you get over a

1682
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 5: period of time and then you look on your body

1683
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,839
Speaker 5: and then you realize, oh my gosh, I'm actually bleeding everywhere.

1684
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 5: But the blood has been trickling the whole time. But

1685
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 5: you've been bandaging it up. You've been patching it up,

1686
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 5: you putting THEO sporing on it, you've been trying to

1687
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 5: do everything you can to ignore the reality of it.

1688
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 5: And you know, and the thing about the situation when yesterday,

1689
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 5: what was even more fucked up about it?

1690
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 4: She watched us leave.

1691
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 3: Oh I forgot to mention yes. So after five or

1692
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 3: ten minutes I'm putting this together. I'm like, even if

1693
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 3: we get sat my my whole addedae is rowing.

1694
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: At this point, I don't want to eat here.

1695
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 3: So we get up and leave and we get in

1696
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 3: the car and then we go to this other spot

1697
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 3: down the street and we eat there. Everything's fine and

1698
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 3: in the car like immediate, like maybe a minute after

1699
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 3: we got off the parking lot, I get the text

1700
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 3: them out like hey, your table's ready, and Karen's like,

1701
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 3: you know, we could go back or whatever, and I

1702
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 3: was like, nah, I feel like she waited till we left,

1703
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 3: right and then whenever if we would have left a

1704
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 3: minute in, she would have texted me my table was ready.

1705
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 3: She waited till we left, saw us leave, and then

1706
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 3: was like, okay, now text them now that I know

1707
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 3: they're gone, you know. And that's how it felt anyway,

1708
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 3: And like I said, I'll never be able to prove it,

1709
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,799
Speaker 3: And honestly, you know.

1710
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. I'll never know for sure.

1711
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 3: Part of being black in America is that racism is

1712
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 3: so ingrained and.

1713
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 2: Shit, you you can't know.

1714
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 3: You know, some white person in the same situation would

1715
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: be like, well, maybe she's a bad hostess, or maybe

1716
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 3: she was telling true or maybe they have some weird policy,

1717
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 3: or you know, maybe if you went there tomorrow, it'll

1718
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 3: be different.

1719
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know what I mean, I really

1720
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 2: don't know.

1721
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 3: So, but that's what this story reminds me of, is

1722
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 3: how this woman felt, even in something where I can't

1723
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 3: imagine a way that this isn't racist, she felt the

1724
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 3: same way I felt, which is, I don't know what

1725
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 3: do y'all think?

1726
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 4: Right?

1727
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 5: And it makes you question shit, it makes you think

1728
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 5: you're hallucinating, and it makes you think that it's all

1729
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 5: in your mind. Because there are some situations that I

1730
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 5: just flat out blake racism.

1731
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 4: There are some.

1732
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 5: Situations where you go, is this racist and not racist

1733
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 5: because I'm black?

1734
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 4: You know, because this, that and the other. And it's

1735
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 4: one of the.

1736
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 5: Things particularly big, Like I said, we had just left

1737
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 5: Black Panthers, so we was like super black, you know,

1738
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 5: as far as the entire we had on you know

1739
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 5: my jury and shit like that. So I think that

1740
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 5: that was the very frustrating part. And like other week

1741
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 5: when I talked about a place we eat it all

1742
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 5: the time, now I'm thinking, as fuck do I even

1743
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 5: want to go back there again?

1744
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 2: Right?

1745
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 5: I mean, because I mean we literally have been in

1746
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 5: there like four five six years straight, Like we go

1747
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 5: at least once to one of my favorite plays, eat

1748
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 5: for Lunch.

1749
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 4: But I'm like, I don't want to deal with that

1750
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 4: no more.

1751
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 3: Right, you just had these moments and it's, like I said,

1752
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 3: it could I'm self aware enough to know maybe it

1753
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 3: could be my paranoid I'm not you Lenna trip and

1754
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 3: be like, I'm so infallible.

1755
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 2: Whatever I see is how it is, and shit and

1756
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 2: perception is reality.

1757
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 3: Maybe I could just be trippling they I ain't thinking

1758
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 3: about that shit, or they just had an off day

1759
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 3: with service.

1760
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:38,879
Speaker 2: Or you know something.

1761
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'll never know, and that

1762
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 3: shit's gonna bother me forever because I feel like I

1763
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:44,640
Speaker 3: know what it felt like.

1764
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 2: I know that much correct.

1765
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 5: And it's also one of those things where you're not

1766
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 5: dealing with somebody who has not actually been we me

1767
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 5: and Rother's both been in the food service industry, so.

1768
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 4: I try to be very considerate of certain situations.

1769
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 5: I can literally because like I said, I surp, I

1770
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 5: could walk in the room and go, Okay, it's gonna

1771
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 5: take us a while because you got this shriver of

1772
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 5: doing this, this, this, this. So I'm very very We're

1773
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 5: very patient regardless. And so you know, if we would

1774
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 5: have been set, seated and waited, I'd have been fine,

1775
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 5: but for the fact that we actually sat at an

1776
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 5: empty fucking table. Y'all right, we actually sat at a

1777
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 5: goddamn empty table, one.

1778
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 3: Of the tables that they could have served, you know,

1779
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 3: but I don't. But at the same time we sat

1780
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 3: at that table and no waiter came over either. So

1781
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 3: maybe there's something I don't know. I don't know, so

1782
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 3: I like and I like and the way everyone was sitting,

1783
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 3: they were mostly outside, only that one table was inside.

1784
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 3: I don't I know enough to know. I don't know,

1785
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 3: but I know enough to know what it felt like.

1786
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 3: And I can leave it at that.

1787
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: And I know that you know.

1788
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 3: This, that's what this woman went through, you know, And

1789
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 3: this this restaurant that that the owner was like it

1790
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 3: was a gift and it was supposed to be funny,

1791
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 3: but it's a tasteless joke, so we won't do that again.

1792
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:58,560
Speaker 2: I take full responsibility.

1793
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 3: I saw this gift and stop it a lass in judgment,

1794
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 3: and we gotta just deal with that, like that's just

1795
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 3: a thing.

1796
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 2: That's the most you're gonna get. He owns the place.

1797
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 2: He's not gonna get sued.

1798
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 3: Like these are all steps of escalation I have to

1799
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 3: take as a black person to.

1800
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: I just wanted a job. I just want my daughter

1801
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 2: to be able to work.

1802
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 3: I don't like I didn't decide to become a fucking

1803
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 3: activist or a civil rights lawyer because my daughter's getting

1804
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 3: harassed at work or whatever.

1805
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 2: I just wanted we should be at She should be.

1806
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 3: Able to have a job and not be called half

1807
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 3: sea or giving watermelons at fucking work.

1808
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 5: That's not a crazy thing to want, right, that's inappropriate.

1809
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 3: Sou But Yeah, and I doubt anything or happened to them.

1810
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 3: That's probably the most you get us an apology. If

1811
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 3: he apologized a half past apology, I mean it wasn't

1812
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 3: I al saw his a lapse in judgment.

1813
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: I should have said something. I'm the owner and I

1814
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 2: knew better. Yeah, what you didn't and this is what happened.

1815
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 3: And now what rest of is that she gets to

1816
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 3: work around races again tomorrow.

1817
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 5: Right, because the behavior don't change. In fact, a lot

1818
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 5: of times it gets worse once you report it.

1819
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 2: Anyway, A hindrick.

1820
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 3: All right, let's see what else do I want to

1821
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 3: talk about?

1822
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 2: Uh hm hmm.

1823
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 3: Let me let me check my tags and see what

1824
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 3: stories I got. Yeah, I guess we gotta do some

1825
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 3: white people news today. All right, let's do some white

1826
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 3: people news. Seems I gotta find a song for y'all

1827
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 3: because I know y'all loodies. Put it on the screen

1828
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 3: so everybody can see it. Now, y'all be just as

1829
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 3: fucked with as we wasn't at restaurant after this song,

1830
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 3: and we were mad.

1831
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 5: Went down the street to the Chinese place and got

1832
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 5: and and and the.

1833
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 4: One we went we went to to know we're gonna move.

1834
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 5: When we went to Chinese place, that one man, that

1835
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 5: man was everything. He was the He would answer the phones,

1836
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:07,600
Speaker 5: doing to go orders, serving everybody.

1837
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 4: He was doing it all.

1838
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 5: And I was like, you know what, I will patiently

1839
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 5: wait miss because I understand mm hmm.

1840
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 3: And you had mom and pop coming from the back

1841
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 3: serving people come on straight out the kitchen like they

1842
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 3: was like cooking and bringing the food out.

1843
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:21,839
Speaker 2: They made that shit work.

1844
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 4: Right there, was like and it looks like we've been

1845
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 4: there before.

1846
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 5: So I really do think the servant must have been

1847
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,759
Speaker 5: sicker called out so that because he was literally greeting

1848
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 5: at the door, sitting tables, bringing out menus getting waters.

1849
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 4: He was literally like on one man crew.

1850
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 5: Kudos than him, you know, And for ship like that

1851
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 5: I would be more than patient for because I understood right.

1852
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: At least he sat right away. Come on fifteen Wait.

1853
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 8: All right, Oh we gotta waiting for him.

1854
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:18,799
Speaker 4: Set up. I'm just a besher looking for a partner

1855
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 4: the world who knows how got even phone?

1856
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 2: No gotta be compatible.

1857
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:35,640
Speaker 7: Send me to them. Go awad and break you up.

1858
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 7: Come set your ball, want to kill your back.

1859
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 4: Let's do it, got it?

1860
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 1: My bonack mercedas coon in shock, bnut your moneck. Let's

1861
01:30:55,040 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 1: do it, got it? Not bonat my aims wait him

1862
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: counting chump boneack.

1863
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 4: Sing here flosses people, you'll steal just puss.

1864
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 8: If I had the cheers.

1865
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 2: Things out duty.

1866
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 4: Your body.

1867
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 2: Never seen caution.

1868
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: Since cheers up and then a starn Jesus want to

1869
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 1: down your phone. Your honeck, Let's do it, got it?

1870
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: Not bonack mocattos. Wait him, come in, shot bonack, you're bnack.

1871
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 1: Let's do it, got it, not donack the settles, wait him,

1872
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,520
Speaker 1: come in, shoot.

1873
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 2: Bone it's gonna get that. Stay there.

1874
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 7: First for shows.

1875
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 2: To the beach, look gold. Then do your d.

1876
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 4: Until we reached the stream.

1877
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 2: You'll beyond the joint.

1878
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 4: Your honeck, Let's do it, got it?

1879
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 1: Not phonat sattles Wada, come in, chop boneck your honer.

1880
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 4: Let's do it. Rot it my bona.

1881
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 1: Marcettles wadom come in, jump bonut your bonnet. Let's do

1882
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 1: it rot it, not phonack mor sattles Wada.

1883
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 2: Ouch. That was uh m hm, that was pretty terrible.

1884
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

1885
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 2: I say, yeah, that was. That was one of the

1886
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 2: worst ones you ever had.

1887
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 5: That was that that.

1888
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 2: Uh and that's y'all's man news. White people elect the

1889
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 2: Trump let's talk about them in their segment.

1890
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 3: Uh. Trump says it will be hard to unify the

1891
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 3: country without a major event, and by major event, I'm

1892
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 3: sure he's talking some sort of terrorist disaster or war,

1893
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 3: or maybe a nuclear bomb or something, and I do

1894
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 3: feel like that's one of the things he's courting. One

1895
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 3: reason that he promotes white nationalism. We are the number

1896
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 3: one terrorists in America. One of the reasons that he,

1897
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 3: uh you know, courts these tragedies and talks shit about

1898
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 3: other countries and mobilized for war is because he's thinking

1899
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 3: that America will unite behind him if we're in a crisis.

1900
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 2: Uh, what will right?

1901
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, we just had a school shooting and he went

1902
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 3: out there and gave thumbs up. I don't see people,

1903
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 3: don't think I see his people mounting pressure on him.

1904
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 3: And even these kids that sadly are turned into activists

1905
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 3: because they survived another school shooting right there, was like.

1906
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 4: No, I'm not taking a picture with him. Fuck him.

1907
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 3: They're like no, even though it was kids are like

1908
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 3: fuck him. You know, ain't no unification going on?

1909
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 2: No, already to buy it? Yeah, but you can't blame

1910
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 2: Obama this time.

1911
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 4: Right, And they'll find a way too. But the thing is,

1912
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 4: is it me or because like I said, I kind

1913
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 4: of watch There hasn't been any pictures to him with

1914
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 4: the families out, has it?

1915
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,759
Speaker 5: Like you know, when Obama does these things, you normally

1916
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 5: have pictures come out with him talking with the families,

1917
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 5: like each individual family, speaking with the family, speaking with

1918
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 5: the children. He went to the hospitals, he took a

1919
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 5: picture with the staff.

1920
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 4: But did he take a picture, you.

1921
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 5: Know, did he actual median of these families or did

1922
01:34:58,200 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 5: he give him a phone call over the PA system.

1923
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? He What's funny is that he.

1924
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 3: Took pictures of the first responders and put a thumbs

1925
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 3: up at the hospital, right. I mean, it's, you know,

1926
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 3: the juxtaposition obviously of him compared to Obama. It's kind

1927
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 3: of an obvious one at this point, but I mean

1928
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 3: it still stands that, you know, when you see a

1929
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 3: person with genuine empathy, you know, hugging people who've lost

1930
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 3: their children, crying while talking about it, being mocked for

1931
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 3: crying while talking about it, and then we send this

1932
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 3: guy down here when we have tragedy, you know, not

1933
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 3: to mention the harbor and fairness of you know, we

1934
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 3: have kids.

1935
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 2: We love guns and violence so much in America. Our

1936
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:47,759
Speaker 2: kids learn.

1937
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 3: Active shooting drills, right they're active, they're active shooter drills.

1938
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 2: On what to do.

1939
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 3: And we expect teachers to jump in front of bullets

1940
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 3: for kids, for low pay, no respect, and uh, it's

1941
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 3: like we're lucky. We're lucky that that fucking teachers aren't

1942
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,680
Speaker 3: doing Nino Brown on these kids at the wedding. Like

1943
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 3: you're lucky because we don't respect these kids, these teachers,

1944
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 3: We don't want to pay them. We rather arm them

1945
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 3: than to get over the addiction to guns. It's literally

1946
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 3: putting people's kids on the front line of violence. We

1947
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 3: think it's our children, Yeah, because we want the gun.

1948
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 3: We love violence and weapons that much, the ability to

1949
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 3: kill somebody. We like that a lot more than we

1950
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:37,759
Speaker 3: love our kids in America.

1951
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 2: And that's heartbreaking, but it's the truth.

1952
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 3: I'm a Rossa breaks down in tears describing Trump's White House.

1953
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 2: I don't care.

1954
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 3: She also went on Big Brother and said the US

1955
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 3: won't be okay under Trump, but she was fine working there,

1956
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 3: So I don't know what that means. You were just

1957
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 3: telling me it would be okay. But as Robin Roberts said,

1958
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 3: she'll tell that story when she's ready to.

1959
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 5: Sell it, right, And while we're speaking on Trump, also,

1960
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 5: maybe just me how the president Trease's wife matters to

1961
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 5: in my being because they had a clip with them

1962
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,719
Speaker 5: getting off airplane and he literally bumped his fucking wife

1963
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 5: like he was trying to football attacker.

1964
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 4: I was like, what the fuck is did y'all fit

1965
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 4: to feet up in the air? Nigga? You bumping her?

1966
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 2: It matters? And it don't because she tries to be there, correct,

1967
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 2: and people try to turn her to.

1968
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,600
Speaker 3: A victim, and I'm not on board with that. But

1969
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 3: I understand that he's a but we knew he was

1970
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 3: fucked up towards women before that. Correct, Hold on, we

1971
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 3: gotta go to the.

1972
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 2: Next segment before we get cut off. We'll be right back, guys.

1973
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I guess, like I do understand, but I

1974
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 5: think my thing is that double standard. You know, when

1975
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 5: it comes to that, there's nowhere in the world Obama

1976
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 5: could did that to Michelle and everybody would have.

1977
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 4: Been cool with it.

1978
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 2: His entire presidency is an it one.

1979
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 3: Come on, I mean, but you know, I think that's

1980
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 3: the obvious surface level, you know what I mean, Like,

1981
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 3: I don't even think that's I think anyone that hasn't

1982
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:09,719
Speaker 3: already kind of tackled the idea that, you know, Obama

1983
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 3: couldn't have done all these things because he's black. I

1984
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 3: think that's such an obvious surface level thing that anyone

1985
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 3: that would deny that is not even worth talking to.

1986
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 4: Correct.

1987
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 3: Trump wants a slash food status of replacing with a

1988
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:21,799
Speaker 3: blue Apron type program.

1989
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw people trying to.

1990
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 3: Be like it was kind of a good idea. If

1991
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 3: you think about it, let me tell you what this means.

1992
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 3: It won't be blue Apron any day. He just trying

1993
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 3: to bring back government cheese, right, He was trying to

1994
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 3: bring back you know when you used to get you know,

1995
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, lesser quality food than the mail can.

1996
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 2: Fucking horse meat and shit like that. That's what they're

1997
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 2: bringing back.

1998
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 3: They're not gonna bring no fresh vegetables to the fucking projects,

1999
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 3: Like get the fuck out of my face.

2000
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 2: And if y'all y'all have I say, y'all.

2001
01:38:55,800 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 3: People have to stop believing any of the program as

2002
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 3: they talk about will be executed in the way that

2003
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:03,600
Speaker 3: they say they'll be executed.

2004
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 2: He's a master of spinning things.

2005
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 3: And if you you're the Charlie Brown trying to kick

2006
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 3: Lucy's football, if you believe this, motherfucker, but correct any

2007
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 3: idea that comes out of that fucking think tank, if

2008
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 3: that's what you want to call it, you it should

2009
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 3: be immediately looked at as a scam. They're a fucking

2010
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:27,759
Speaker 3: scam artist. Dog he's the major. He's a fucking scam martist.

2011
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 3: So the same way that it was like we can

2012
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,679
Speaker 3: handle Puerto Rico. And then you find out who they're

2013
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 3: giving these contracts to. You think they're gonna give a

2014
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 3: contract to feed all these people with this quote unquote

2015
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 3: blue Apron like program. You think they're gonna give it

2016
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 3: to qualified people who've done this in the past, will

2017
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 3: make sure that people get high quality food and fresh

2018
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 3: ingredients and shit, or you think they're not, you know,

2019
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 3: think they give it to the lowest bidder.

2020
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 2: And it's gonna be weeks where people go, I didn't

2021
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 2: get no food.

2022
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 3: This week, and nobody gonna give a fuck, right right,

2023
01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,799
Speaker 3: And it's gonna be the cheapest shit they can afford.

2024
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 4: Come on, Ryan, sodium, high end cholesterol, not good for you.

2025
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 3: Rob Porter's ex wife confesses she's fearful for Hope Hicks,

2026
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 3: who is his current girlfriend in the White House.

2027
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll stop. His ex wife was.

2028
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 3: Abused by him, and obviously, uh Trump White House knew

2029
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 3: about it since November and they kept him a lot

2030
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 3: on kept them on the job until it was discovered,

2031
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 3: and then they couldn't get they list straight. Three different

2032
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:29,679
Speaker 3: stories arose about how he lost his job. He resigned,

2033
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 3: then he was fired. Did he let go for personal reasons,

2034
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 3: then he left for personal reasons.

2035
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 4: Don't believe. You don't believe because the stories are too conflicting.

2036
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 3: Uh. Trump's White House released a memo that was very

2037
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 3: stupid and transparent everything they stupid.

2038
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was.

2039
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 3: It was a memo trying to apply to the FBI

2040
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:56,799
Speaker 3: inappropriately spied on Trump and his campaign advisor in twenty sixteen,

2041
01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:58,600
Speaker 3: and it was obviously.

2042
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,720
Speaker 2: Wrong and stupid and everybody knew it.

2043
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:03,640
Speaker 3: And then Democrats wanted to release a memo that was

2044
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 3: a direct response to it, and he blocked the release

2045
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 3: of that demo.

2046
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 2: That that memo.

2047
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:15,799
Speaker 3: Uh, let's see. Oh, his move to end DACA program

2048
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 3: was blocked by another judge. That's good because they're still

2049
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 3: trying to attack the Dream Act.

2050
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 4: And shout out to.

2051
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 5: These judges is like, what the fuck you ain't gonna do.

2052
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 5: It's gonna have to put like this. I'm gonna be

2053
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 5: on the right side of history if you get passed.

2054
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 5: My name is not gonna be attached that bitch, right.

2055
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 3: Uh So, And of course they're upset that these activist

2056
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 3: judges keep going, you can't break the law.

2057
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 5: Mean the judges is like, hey, I'm supposed to do

2058
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 5: the law regardless of what the fuck you won't.

2059
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 3: Milania and Ivanka once again released their own press releases

2060
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,080
Speaker 3: to try to make themselves look good. Uh. They said

2061
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 3: that they tried to stop President Trump from tweeting, but

2062
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 3: no one could do it.

2063
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2064
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 3: One, you know that that that ship comes directly for

2065
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,720
Speaker 3: them to be to separate themselves from him. Uh, but

2066
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 3: then too, that's even worse. We just wanted to keep

2067
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 3: this negative, bigoted bullshit to us in the house and

2068
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 3: not tell you guys because them y'all know what kind

2069
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 3: of asshole he is.

2070
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 5: And you basically say we are right with his behavior.

2071
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 5: That's that's that's what you're saying. That's one of those things.

2072
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 4: I do agree with you. No, you're not a mother

2073
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 4: fucking victim.

2074
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 5: You marry him, you agree with him, and his daughter

2075
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 5: is your daughter and son, the two the most problem

2076
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 5: and not the youngest one just as bad as he is.

2077
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Malania, like Maloney is just a goldigger. They got

2078
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 3: caught up in some bullshit.

2079
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 2: When this nigga decided to run president and win, nobody

2080
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 2: thought he could.

2081
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 4: Come on.

2082
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 2: She's like, I just waiting on this nigga to die

2083
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 2: to inherit his money. I didn't know I had to do.

2084
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 3: All this, But I still don't feel bad. She married

2085
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 3: her a fucking racist piece of shit.

2086
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:49,799
Speaker 4: Yes she did. In fact, she in the grants.

2087
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2088
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 3: Another White House speechwriter, David Sorensen, resigned Friday after being

2089
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 3: accused of physical and emotional abuse by his ex wife.

2090
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 3: It's almost as if the White House is full of

2091
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 3: white supremacists and the soogynists is almost It's almost, is it?

2092
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 2: Jamel Hill was great almost.

2093
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 3: Amarrossa was fired for using White House car service, according

2094
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 3: to a new report and Two Lives line.

2095
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what's true. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not,

2096
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 2: both of them be lying.

2097
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 3: Trump slam insecure Oprah and says he hopes she runs

2098
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 3: for president. He's so transparent and stupid. He's so afraid

2099
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 3: of Oprah for the same reason all the Wokes TM

2100
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 3: are scared of Oprah because she could run and.

2101
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 2: Win, come on, and probably do it pretty easily.

2102
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 3: And she's already said she won't run so such it's

2103
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 3: so fucking stupid, But yeah, he in soulda Oprah and.

2104
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 2: Basically tried to.

2105
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:54,679
Speaker 3: Uh come at her because she had a panel discussion

2106
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 3: in sixty minutes. But she talked about his presidency being

2107
01:43:58,200 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 3: one year and two it and how terrible it was.

2108
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 3: She said, posed are showing the respect for the United States,

2109
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 3: are rolling around the world. Do you care what the

2110
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 3: world thinks of the United States? She asked at one point,

2111
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 3: there have been some members of Congress, including Republicans, question in.

2112
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 2: His stability and fitness for office. What do you think

2113
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 2: of that?

2114
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 3: And do you believe he has a temperament to be president?

2115
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 3: She also asked, do you think the president's held to

2116
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 3: a different standard when it comes to the issue of

2117
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 3: sexual harassment? And of course he saw it and got

2118
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 3: mad and said she was very insecure and hoped she

2119
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 3: was so she can be exposed and defeated just like.

2120
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 2: All the others. He's fucking mad man.

2121
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 4: Mmm hmm.

2122
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 2: Y'all put this ass on her because y'all made him president, right.

2123
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,720
Speaker 5: And she can just she can know y'all just keep

2124
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 5: you trucking like she live in her best white woman

2125
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:43,599
Speaker 5: of colored life.

2126
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 4: You' the fuck about what you got to say?

2127
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 3: Also, Trump said that the Florida students should have done

2128
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 3: more to prevent the deadly shooting. So many signs that

2129
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 3: the Florida student was mentally disturbed, even expelled from school

2130
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 3: for bad and radic behavior. Neighbors and classmates knew he

2131
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 3: was a big problem. US always report such instances to authorities.

2132
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 5: Again and again, the fucking authorities that knew. The fucking

2133
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 5: authorities were warned about his YouTube comment.

2134
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 4: Them fucking authorities.

2135
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 3: Hey, sorry, seventeen year olds that are dead, it's you'all fault.

2136
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 5: You know, he doesn't care it has no compassion, no empathy,

2137
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 5: no sympathy. He doesn't give a fuck about this country.

2138
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 3: Do a better job, you know, reporting people, and y'all

2139
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 3: won't be dead.

2140
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 5: Right, And do you wonder why the students as the

2141
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 5: other like, fuck you, No, I'm not taking a picture

2142
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 5: with you.

2143
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 3: Right, all right, let's talk about white people news, the lighter,

2144
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 3: whiter side of the white people. Let's do it, though,

2145
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:41,639
Speaker 3: Jennifer Anderson and Justin Thorreau have called the splits after

2146
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:42,799
Speaker 3: two years of marriage.

2147
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 4: Okay, now, these are the ones we get to see right.

2148
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,839
Speaker 3: Yes, these are the ones y'all get to see. Jennifer

2149
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 3: Anderson and Justin Thureau.

2150
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 5: Uh.

2151
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 2: He was on Friends, she was on Friends. He was

2152
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 2: on The Leftovers most famously for me, I don't know

2153
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 2: what else.

2154
01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 4: I don't watch The Leftovers.

2155
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 2: I know it's too white, it is, but yeah.

2156
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 3: They were played with problems in their relationship well before

2157
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 3: they tied the knot some of the issues that led

2158
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 3: to their designs. Actually, the source close to the pair

2159
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 3: says that anison at the row, each preferred different coasts,

2160
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 3: a major source of contention for the pair ever since

2161
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 3: they became serious. The living issue Auton McCain made them bicker.

2162
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 3: It was always her hard for Jen to understand why

2163
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 3: Justin didn't like or at least could learn to like,

2164
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 3: La when she was in La for a long time.

2165
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 3: A couple who dated for more than four years before

2166
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 3: marrying in twenty fifteen accommodated each other.

2167
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 2: He would spend more time in New.

2168
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,719
Speaker 3: York City, and then jam were feeling so strongly about

2169
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 3: living in LA and just like NYC so much. She

2170
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:45,839
Speaker 3: wanted them to be happy, and that's why she agreed

2171
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 3: that she should spend so much time that he should

2172
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 3: spend so much time in New York City, but it

2173
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 3: didn't work out. One wonders why they got married in

2174
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 3: the first place. Nothing really changed after they tied the

2175
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 3: knot in the surprise backyard birthday party turned wedding ceremony

2176
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:02,720
Speaker 3: August fifth, fifteen, a few days before he turned forty four,

2177
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 3: followed by a honeymoon and boor boor with friends such

2178
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 3: as Courtney Cox and Jimmy Kimmeo and Jason Bateman.

2179
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 4: Honeymoon What.

2180
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 7: What?

2181
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:15,759
Speaker 4: Oh say you're taking a group of celebrities on the honeymoon?

2182
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I guess it's day friends. I don't know.

2183
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:18,640
Speaker 4: Wen't know.

2184
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 3: Getting married never seen that important to them, says the source.

2185
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 3: When they finally did start to plan it seriously, it

2186
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 3: was more like, let's have a great party with all

2187
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 3: our friends that go on a fun trip. They had

2188
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 3: the same issues before they got married, and they caused

2189
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 3: them to split. They've announ said split after seven years

2190
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 3: together in two and a half years of marriage, with

2191
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 3: a statement released by Anderson's long time publicists on Thursday,

2192
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:41,680
Speaker 3: and effort to reduce any further speculation, We've decided to

2193
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:45,759
Speaker 3: announce our separation. This decision was mutual and lovingly mutual

2194
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 3: and lovingly made at the end of last year, we

2195
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 3: are two best friends who have decided the part way

2196
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 3: as a couple, but look forward to continue on our

2197
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 3: cherished friendship. Normally we would do this privately, but given

2198
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 3: the gossip of the industry, cannot resist an opportunity to

2199
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 3: speculate and event and event, I guess the event. Uh

2200
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 3: oh and invent okay, and invent. We wanted to convey

2201
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 3: the truth directly their statement continue. Whatever else is printed

2202
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 3: about us, that's not directly from us, it's someone else's

2203
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 3: fictional narrative. Above all, we are determined to maintain the

2204
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 3: deep respect and love that we have for one another.

2205
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 2: Also white mm hmm.

2206
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 3: Shortly before the breakup, a source told people that aison

2207
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 3: at throw different personalities and interests put a strain on

2208
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 3: their marriage.

2209
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 2: They are very different people.

2210
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 3: Jennifer loves her life in Los Angeles if and if anything,

2211
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:32,600
Speaker 3: she is growing more attached to being there. Just is

2212
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 3: not that comfortable or happy in Los Angeles all the time.

2213
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 3: He loves New York and always has.

2214
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 4: I can see that being a problem.

2215
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:42,559
Speaker 2: I guess, so, man, a white people problem.

2216
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 4: White people problem.

2217
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's wild too, because like you know,

2218
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 2: just uh, you just had Bradulena breakup and now they

2219
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 2: broke up. Like, I don't wonder what's gonna happen.

2220
01:48:58,520 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 4: We'll see.

2221
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 2: Oh we already know that. Janet Jackson confirmed she's not

2222
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 2: for it too. I don't know how to accept that.

2223
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 2: Jake Paul says Logan Paul's actions have affected his own brand,

2224
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 2: Where are you all at?

2225
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 3: YouTube isn't the only brand being affected by the negative

2226
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 3: press around Logan Paul's antics. His brother is feeling the

2227
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 3: pressure too, and he sided with YouTube over his latest punishment.

2228
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 3: During the interview with TMZ earlier this week, Jake Paul,

2229
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 3: who's currently in broad in the Fuel with KSI and

2230
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 3: who's faced legal flace plenty of controversy himself in the

2231
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 3: past several months, said he understands why YouTube is cracking

2232
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 3: down on Logan Paul's account. The punishment feels like a lot,

2233
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 3: but I think they know what's best for their platform.

2234
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 2: They treated us.

2235
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 3: Amazing over the years. My brother needs to get better

2236
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 3: at determining what you put in his videos. Kids are

2237
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 3: watching the trouble again for Logan. At the beginning of

2238
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 3: the year, when he did the dead body and you

2239
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 3: know suicide hoarst. After about a month away, he returned

2240
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,640
Speaker 3: to the platform almost immediately found trouble again, posting a

2241
01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:02,160
Speaker 3: video of himself tendering a dead rat. What that led

2242
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 3: to YouTube to strip away all of his ad revenue,

2243
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 3: and then a recent blog post site laid out for

2244
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 3: the punishments for content creators who harmed the community with

2245
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 3: inappropriate videos, including the ability to remove a channel's eligibility

2246
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 3: to be recommended on YouTube, and such as appearing on

2247
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 3: our home page train or watch next right you.

2248
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:23,679
Speaker 4: Over here fucking up and you fucking everybody else's money up. People,

2249
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:24,760
Speaker 4: We ain't got shit to do with.

2250
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:26,679
Speaker 5: And the only reason why he had something cause he's like, dog,

2251
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:28,719
Speaker 5: I'm trying to make money to you fucking up everybody

2252
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 5: money yep.

2253
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 3: Of course, Jake Paul had said that his brother brought

2254
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 3: his own it's his own. I mean, I'm sorry, Logan

2255
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:41,600
Speaker 3: Paul didn't respond, but Jake Paul, his brother, said that

2256
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 3: Logan's antics are hurting his own brand.

2257
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:45,759
Speaker 2: Of course, he said.

2258
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 3: People lump us together so they see him fuck my

2259
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 3: brother fucking up and they think, hey, you a piece

2260
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 3: of shit as well.

2261
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me have him out, let me put like this,

2262
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 4: let me poke a hole in my own ship. Shit,

2263
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 4: don't don't let me go down with his bullshit.

2264
01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 2: And he has poked a whole in his own ship,

2265
01:50:58,960 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 2: Yes he has.

2266
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 3: He's been in trouble for saying the N word multiple

2267
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:05,919
Speaker 3: times of the freestyle rap, facing accusations of bullying fellow YouTubers,

2268
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 3: calling one of his own fans a terrorist. But compared

2269
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 3: to Logan posit recent and antis, Jake Pouls kept himself

2270
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 3: out of trouble for the past month or so, and

2271
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 3: he understands YouTube stance against his brother, So I get it.

2272
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 3: I do think Logan has good intentions and he's a

2273
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 3: good person. I'm his brother, I know him the most.

2274
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 3: I get where he's coming from. But you two has

2275
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 3: to protect their platform. He's just one creator on that platform.

2276
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, y'all, I'm both problematic, but you're like, I'm not

2277
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 5: problematic as this.

2278
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 3: Niggle Landadale rays Stalker forty three, was arrested on the

2279
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:41,839
Speaker 3: tenthed kidnapping chargers at the Ramblin Facebook post.

2280
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 2: Declares they are going to get together.

2281
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 5: What man.

2282
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 3: Don't want to be that famous, never want to be

2283
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,679
Speaker 3: that famous. Dog, some stalking ass motherfucker on the internet.

2284
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna be together. Woh know, we not all right,

2285
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 3: we haven't met. We don't know each other. My fucking

2286
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 3: telling people on Facebook about it. I got a restraining

2287
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:06,759
Speaker 3: order against you and shit right.

2288
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: At any rate.

2289
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 3: Police in Florida said the arrest of the man who

2290
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 3: threatened to kidnap sing Atlanta del Ray after receiving an

2291
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 3: anonymous tip. Riverview resident Michael Hunt, forty three, was taken

2292
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:20,640
Speaker 3: into custody on Friday after the Orlando Police alleged he

2293
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 3: made threats against the musician. Okay, cook, I thought it

2294
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 3: was coming up, all right, articles moving kind of slow.

2295
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 2: Back to this.

2296
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 3: Hunt hasn't charged at teph to kidnapping with a weapon

2297
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 3: of aggravated stocking with a credible threat. The forty three

2298
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 3: year was arrested at nine pm Friday evening after he

2299
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 3: was making his way to the Amway Center where Dale Ray.

2300
01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:44,560
Speaker 2: Was scheduled to perform that evening. So he was on

2301
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 2: his way. Wow, Oh that's him. Oh god, he looks

2302
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 2: scary as fuck.

2303
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2304
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 2: It feels like a penis with eyes. Jesus.

2305
01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:58,719
Speaker 4: Oh that's very scary.

2306
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh god, anyway, they arrested him. They

2307
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:08,600
Speaker 3: found a three inch fold, a knife on Hunt and

2308
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 3: a purchase ticket to the performance, which attracted an estimated

2309
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 3: eight thousand people.

2310
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 2: According to the sending, No police.

2311
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 3: Were alerted to the threat after anonymous source called in

2312
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 3: to say he shared a cryptic and threat and they

2313
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 3: post on social media toward the singer. The police report

2314
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 3: shows the officers determined there was a concern for public

2315
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:26,120
Speaker 3: safety and due to the statements posted by Hunt, victim,

2316
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Grant was in fear of her safety. Although the

2317
01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 3: police officials did not release any information detailing the threats,

2318
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 3: the Orlando sent in A reported that several faces were

2319
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 3: post apparently belonging to Hunt. Professor's love for the thirty

2320
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 3: two year old artists. I want to see my queen

2321
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,639
Speaker 3: on Friday, and from that day forward our decisions will

2322
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:46,560
Speaker 3: be as one, and the several posts he's headed the

2323
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 3: singer knows my face in her dreams. She's my always

2324
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 3: and forever to be. Just days before as arrest, he

2325
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:57,720
Speaker 3: was posted a ramblin video of himself on Facebook in

2326
01:53:57,800 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 3: which he talked about his plans to get together with Grant.

2327
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 3: I'm going to probably finish out her tour with her

2328
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 3: obviously and dance and talk and figure out what we're

2329
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 3: gonna do. The video also shows you they're also showing

2330
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 3: frequently shifting between a mirror of different political topics when

2331
01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 3: looping back to Grant and telling viewers that I'm letting

2332
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 3: my feet rest before I take off with Lana.

2333
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 2: Hunt Was has a long criminal history.

2334
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:28,840
Speaker 3: He's served five prison terms, including burglary and the occupied structure, Grant,

2335
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 3: grand themed motor vehicle, and grand theft with a firearm

2336
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 3: recording to Sendel. Hunt was last at least from prison

2337
01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen and served nine months on the vaiting

2338
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 3: the res conviction. Yep, that's pretty scary, mean while to

2339
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 3: have a video of Leonardale Rays hugging a dude that

2340
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 3: jumped on the stage and interrupted her show. So I

2341
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 3: don't know what's over her security people. She need to

2342
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 3: call Kevin Cossoner from the bodyguard.

2343
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 2: Or some shit.

2344
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 5: Come on, like one thing you ain't gonna do now,

2345
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 5: you ain't gonna get that close to Beyonce that quick,

2346
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 5: honey day day honey they're about when listen, motherfucking fan

2347
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 5: that caught her wigs.

2348
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 4: So I know that they don't take anybody to get

2349
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 4: on the stage out.

2350
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 2: That's scary.

2351
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 3: Paris Jackson spent Saturday having a low kid evening with

2352
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 3: friends and family.

2353
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:17,879
Speaker 2: Good for Paris Jackson.

2354
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 3: The model actress was dressed up in her typical hippie

2355
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 3: chic as she stepped out with her brothers Prince and

2356
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 3: Blanket Biggie fifteen for dinner in Beverly Hills.

2357
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:34,400
Speaker 2: I just wonder what happened to Blanket. Never see him.

2358
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 2: You always hear about so Quiet. Yeah, you always hear

2359
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 2: about Prince, and you always hear about Paris, but you

2360
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 2: never hear about Blacket.

2361
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 4: I don't want them problem. Let me lay up in

2362
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 4: my blanket and just be here.

2363
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, did he change his name?

2364
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 8: You know?

2365
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm here. I just don't y'all don't see me.

2366
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 3: The nineteen year old stress free Saturday comes after unpleasant

2367
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 3: and kunt of Thursday, when the late pop legend Michael

2368
01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 3: Jackson's daughter was robbed by hitchhikers. Oh shit, how does

2369
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 3: that happened? Yeah, Parish hold on. Paris don comfortable layers

2370
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 3: to the restaurant, wearing a pink and gray splattered T

2371
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 3: shirt and plaid flannel flannel tied around her waist. The

2372
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 3: IMG rep beauty carried a boho backpack with her while.

2373
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 2: Her hair was tied back in a messy ponytail.

2374
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 3: The rising star appeared to be in reverse in a

2375
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 3: reverse a reserve mood, seeing entering the establishment with her

2376
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 3: arms crossing an inscrutable facial expression. Paris was accompanied by

2377
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 3: younger brother Biggie, formerly known this Blanket, who could be

2378
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 3: recognized with his long dark hair. Older brother Prince was

2379
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 3: also there, seeing holding hands with an unidentified female. On

2380
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,920
Speaker 3: Friday to start, vented about the experience while recounting the

2381
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:51,320
Speaker 3: events on social media for e T So, last night,

2382
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:53,760
Speaker 3: I picked up a couple hitchhikers and one girl was

2383
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 3: pretty fucked up.

2384
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 2: Out of mean.

2385
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 3: I remember taking out a pair of my arm socks

2386
01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 3: and putting them on her and stopping by a fucking

2387
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:01,880
Speaker 3: fast food place to get them dinner.

2388
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 2: This bitch fucking stole my debit card.

2389
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 5: Dude.

2390
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 3: I gave you guys a fucking ride across LA and

2391
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:10,320
Speaker 3: I do my very very best to be the best

2392
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 3: Uber driver ever even though I'm not part of Uber,

2393
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 3: and you steal my shit, dude, What the fuck. While

2394
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 3: the situation was demoralizing a few missing dollars won't be

2395
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 3: sent Paris to the poor house. The Beautiful blind to

2396
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 3: her sibling each earned two hundred and fifty million dollars

2397
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 3: on their father's music catalog sold in twenty fourteen, and

2398
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 3: they stay in their hair even more when the years

2399
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 3: go by.

2400
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 5: Mm hm like it's probably in this will you know,

2401
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:34,520
Speaker 5: they probably progressively get money for the rest of their lives.

2402
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 2: Basically out here Robin Paris Jackson, y'all ain't shit.

2403
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 4: Come on, she ain't bothering nobody.

2404
01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 3: All right, Let's do sord to ratchetness, okay, and then

2405
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:48,839
Speaker 3: after that we'll talk to the black panther spoiler discussion.

2406
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 4: Okay.

2407
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 3: A man has been assorted by a man carrying a

2408
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 3: sword in North Belfast. Police have a pill for information

2409
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 3: on aggravated burgulary, which happened in Oakland Street, Oakley Street

2410
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 3: shortly after midnight on Wednesday morning. The occupants a twenty

2411
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 3: five year old man a thirty five year old woman.

2412
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 3: We're threatening that the man was punched. Police say the

2413
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:30,240
Speaker 3: three men wore black of us wait botta clava's to

2414
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 3: carry bats and bars. The fourth, who was undisguised, carried

2415
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,120
Speaker 3: a sword. He is described as about nineteen twenty years old,

2416
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 3: five for seven inches tall, short, dark hair brush forward.

2417
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 3: Detective Sergeant Keith Wilson said, this fourth mail punched the

2418
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 3: mail occupant in the head, and the tiuders just smashed

2419
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:48,720
Speaker 3: the front window and fled the singing damn.

2420
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 2: All right, guys, that's it for the show. Show.

2421
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 3: We'll talk about spoilers for Black Panther real quick, right,

2422
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,560
Speaker 3: So now, yo q, so, get the fuck off of here.

2423
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 3: The rest of this ain't for you. I don't want

2424
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 3: to hear no more fucking problems tomorrow. Y'all's florided whatever? Okay,

2425
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:09,280
Speaker 3: you know by all right, so and Black Panther this

2426
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:11,640
Speaker 3: is I guess it has become a controversial thing to say.

2427
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:14,560
Speaker 3: I noticed it the first view of it, especially the

2428
01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 3: second time I saw it, but it's become a bonus

2429
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 3: contention on the internet.

2430
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 2: But Michael B.

2431
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 3: Jordan's character, who's the bad guy kill Manger. He kills

2432
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 3: people indiscriminately. He has like hundreds of fucking tattoos on

2433
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:33,480
Speaker 3: his chest from all the people he's killed, and shit

2434
01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 3: like these brands he's put on himself to scar himself

2435
01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 3: to as ritualistic killing or whatever.

2436
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 2: And you know it's he's the bad guy for a reason.

2437
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 2: He's a villain.

2438
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 3: Some people have kind of taken it doing like the

2439
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 3: kind of almost like Magneto, like kill Manger was right,

2440
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 3: you know whatever, And to me, totally fine to say,

2441
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:58,600
Speaker 3: I get it. It's funny. Yes, it's kind of a

2442
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 3: running joke even with Anto. I think time is duled

2443
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 3: it because he's been around so long and he's not

2444
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 3: new to pop culture and social media wasn't around then, correct,

2445
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 3: But you know he I still remember him drowning a

2446
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:15,600
Speaker 3: ship full of sailors so he can get the nuclear

2447
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:16,440
Speaker 3: weapons out of there.

2448
02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:18,480
Speaker 2: Thing. He killed all these people.

2449
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:22,640
Speaker 3: You know, he's done all kinds of atrocious shit up right,

2450
02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 3: So when you say Magneto is right, it's obviously a

2451
02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 3: bit facetious.

2452
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:26,800
Speaker 4: You know.

2453
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:30,880
Speaker 3: Uh, There's been anti heroes like Tony Montana who people

2454
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:34,600
Speaker 3: worship throughout like hip hop and stuff, and it's like Scarface,

2455
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 3: we love Scarface. Scarface is also abusive, drug addic allar shit.

2456
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 3: Right Anyway, Kill Marger, while being the representation for a

2457
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:51,880
Speaker 3: certain extent of American blackness in this movie, he's the

2458
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:52,400
Speaker 3: bad guy.

2459
02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:53,160
Speaker 2: He's the villain.

2460
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:57,760
Speaker 3: Part of his villain role or whatever, is that he

2461
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:04,240
Speaker 3: indiscriminately kills people and gets off, in my opinion, on

2462
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 3: hurting particularly Wakanda's and in that case, even particularly some

2463
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:15,120
Speaker 3: of the women in Wakanda who happened to be Black women.

2464
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 2: I don't feel like he goes out of his way

2465
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:19,400
Speaker 2: to target black women, quote unquote, but.

2466
02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:22,480
Speaker 3: I do feel like his treatment of black women is

2467
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:26,080
Speaker 3: a discussion point in the movie, and in a movie

2468
02:01:26,120 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 3: that has a lot of depth, that has.

2469
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:31,080
Speaker 2: A lot of intention behind it, that's written very well.

2470
02:01:31,680 --> 02:01:33,920
Speaker 3: It's not like none of this shit is coincidence or

2471
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 3: casual or happenstance. These are decisions made by directors and

2472
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:40,400
Speaker 3: writers and things and this stuff, things of this nature.

2473
02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:45,800
Speaker 3: So somehow it's become I think because people enjoyed his

2474
02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 3: portrayal of the character with Michael B. Jordan, I think

2475
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:53,960
Speaker 3: people have wanted to say that his violence towards black

2476
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:58,920
Speaker 3: women in the movie is of no concern, which I'm

2477
02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:00,920
Speaker 3: not saying is to pick up part the movie. I'm

2478
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:04,400
Speaker 3: saying this as credit to the movie. It's the ultimate

2479
02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 3: compliment I can give it. They basically wanted to balance

2480
02:02:09,160 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 3: the toxic masculinity of kill Manger versus the you know,

2481
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:19,800
Speaker 3: more secure masculinity of T'Challa.

2482
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 2: You know, I think the point of.

2483
02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:27,440
Speaker 3: The violence and the glee and the joy that he

2484
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:32,200
Speaker 3: got in terrorizing black women or at least dismissing them

2485
02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 3: in some case like this treatment of black women was

2486
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:38,440
Speaker 3: supposed to be in direct contrast to Challah, who feels

2487
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:42,000
Speaker 3: that black women are integral to not just his society.

2488
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:42,960
Speaker 4: But to his reign. Correct.

2489
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:45,400
Speaker 2: You know, you have Shui, who.

2490
02:02:45,400 --> 02:02:49,360
Speaker 3: Is the person that does all the technology for Wakanda.

2491
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:55,160
Speaker 3: You have the leader, his general in okay Okoye who

2492
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:58,280
Speaker 3: is the head of Dora Miller Jay. You have his mother,

2493
02:02:58,360 --> 02:03:02,600
Speaker 3: who's of course the the queen uh Nikiyah, who's a

2494
02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 3: spy who has a different political philosophy than to Challa,

2495
02:03:07,560 --> 02:03:10,640
Speaker 3: who uh talks to him about it, and he considers

2496
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:16,080
Speaker 3: it from jump like, even while feeling like uncomfortable with

2497
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:21,280
Speaker 3: changing what was gonna be a centuries old isolationist policy

2498
02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:26,880
Speaker 3: to one of outreach, even he was listening to her

2499
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:29,920
Speaker 3: like he doesn't. He never dismisses any woman out of hand,

2500
02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 3: unless it's in a joking manner, you know, like him,

2501
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:37,880
Speaker 3: and sure he have jokes and stuff, but to me,

2502
02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:41,360
Speaker 3: This is one of the crucial conceit conceits of the

2503
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:44,760
Speaker 3: movie and one of the reasons that it's such a

2504
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:49,320
Speaker 3: beautiful it's a masterpiece, because we talk about stuff like

2505
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:53,200
Speaker 3: toxic masculine. We talked about people make jokes about hotel dudes,

2506
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:58,240
Speaker 3: and we make jokes about what, you know, all this stuff,

2507
02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:00,360
Speaker 3: and people hate to hear, you know.

2508
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:02,920
Speaker 2: These buzzwords and the wokes and all this shit.

2509
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:05,040
Speaker 3: And I'm not really here to try to stretch the truth,

2510
02:04:06,280 --> 02:04:09,360
Speaker 3: but to me it was obvious in my watching another movie, like, oh,

2511
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:14,480
Speaker 3: they want to show the difference between kill Manger's attitude

2512
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:17,120
Speaker 3: in general and to Challa's.

2513
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:18,880
Speaker 4: You know general, right, just across the border on how

2514
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:19,640
Speaker 4: they treat people.

2515
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 2: Right.

2516
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:23,680
Speaker 3: Consider Also, the movie is an artificial construct, So the

2517
02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 3: movie never put to Challa in the situation where he

2518
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:30,240
Speaker 3: would have to fight a woman anyway, right, So you

2519
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 3: kind of don't have.

2520
02:04:31,240 --> 02:04:32,400
Speaker 2: To worry about.

2521
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:36,200
Speaker 3: They constructed it so we would never have the moral

2522
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:38,480
Speaker 3: quandary of, well, sometimes you got to.

2523
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:39,760
Speaker 2: Hear the woman to win this fight, you know.

2524
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:40,680
Speaker 4: Now.

2525
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 3: The thing is to Challa and his people use violence

2526
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:50,040
Speaker 3: to solve situations too, so it's not even a case

2527
02:04:50,120 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 3: of well, we just want to show that kill Manger

2528
02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 3: is violent and they're not, and that's why kill Manger

2529
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:58,680
Speaker 3: is bad and they're not. No, I would even go

2530
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:01,360
Speaker 3: so far as to say, I'm pretty sure people died

2531
02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:04,840
Speaker 3: in some of the scenes that where they fucked up

2532
02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:05,880
Speaker 3: people's cars and ship like.

2533
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:08,160
Speaker 4: Come on the whole casino scene. Some of them didn't

2534
02:05:08,160 --> 02:05:09,040
Speaker 4: make it right.

2535
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:11,360
Speaker 3: So I'm not even saying that it's like some like

2536
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 3: killing is bad and kill markut's bad because he killed

2537
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 3: I don't even think it's.

2538
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:16,720
Speaker 2: Going that simple.

2539
02:05:17,320 --> 02:05:21,360
Speaker 3: But I do think his execution of violence and his

2540
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:24,680
Speaker 3: indiscriminate consideration and his.

2541
02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:27,400
Speaker 2: Lack of.

2542
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:35,720
Speaker 3: His his lack of what would you call it, I guess, yeah,

2543
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:40,480
Speaker 3: lack of consideration for for the women within that what

2544
02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:41,760
Speaker 3: kind of society and stuff.

2545
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:42,920
Speaker 2: I think it does matter.

2546
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:45,840
Speaker 3: And I and and I so I said as much

2547
02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 3: on social media to be like, it's kind of fucked

2548
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:55,200
Speaker 3: up to not even let people consider the tactics and

2549
02:05:55,320 --> 02:05:59,160
Speaker 3: the philosophy of kill Manger and how that put him

2550
02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:02,840
Speaker 3: in direct oppositeition to black women and how casually he

2551
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:05,760
Speaker 3: killed them, and how he actually took joy in it,

2552
02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 3: you know, when he cut that door in Miller Jay's throat.

2553
02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:10,560
Speaker 3: He laughed when he was told he had a heart

2554
02:06:10,600 --> 02:06:14,120
Speaker 3: full of hate by o Koye. He laughed at her.

2555
02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:17,120
Speaker 3: He smiled in her face. When he was gonna kill Sherry,

2556
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 3: he goes, hey, princess, and before he was about to

2557
02:06:19,400 --> 02:06:22,680
Speaker 3: stab her and kill her in the garden, he picks

2558
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:24,840
Speaker 3: up this black woman by the throat and chokes her

2559
02:06:25,200 --> 02:06:27,240
Speaker 3: and says, when I say that some shit, you know,

2560
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:31,480
Speaker 3: I mean it or something like that. Now that doesn't

2561
02:06:31,520 --> 02:06:33,760
Speaker 3: mean those are the only people that he said things to.

2562
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:40,000
Speaker 3: He seemed to take kind of a a joy in

2563
02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:46,680
Speaker 3: killing that uh and beating up to Challa and presumably

2564
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:49,320
Speaker 3: killing him. He definitely took joy in that way, you know.

2565
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 3: But it wasn't like ha ha ha, but it was

2566
02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:55,360
Speaker 3: like he was proving something. He's like this your king, huh,

2567
02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 3: this is you know, like when he killed shury Zuri.

2568
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:02,400
Speaker 3: He kills Zerr because Zeri stepped in the way of

2569
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 3: him killing T'Challa and volunteered his life because he was

2570
02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:10,200
Speaker 3: the spy who got his father killed. And he before

2571
02:07:10,240 --> 02:07:12,720
Speaker 3: he kills him, he's like, take like, take that uncle

2572
02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 3: Frank or whatever his name was back in content and

2573
02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:19,160
Speaker 3: kills him. So like even then he's doing that kind

2574
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:24,200
Speaker 3: of almost out of a revenge, and obviously killing T'Challa

2575
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:28,120
Speaker 3: is a means to get the throne, right, but something

2576
02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:32,080
Speaker 3: about the way he smiles, the way he laughs, the

2577
02:07:32,240 --> 02:07:34,920
Speaker 3: coldness that he killed his lover with earlier in the

2578
02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:38,800
Speaker 3: film to get to Claw where he goes it's gonna

2579
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:41,040
Speaker 3: be okay, and he just shoots her right through her

2580
02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:45,560
Speaker 3: to killer. To me, those felt like intentional choices the

2581
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:47,360
Speaker 3: director made to kind of show us.

2582
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:49,280
Speaker 2: A not just.

2583
02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 3: Not just a ruthlessness of he'll kill anybody. I mean,

2584
02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:59,280
Speaker 3: not just the ruthlessness of look at him, he kills

2585
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:01,280
Speaker 3: black women. I don't feel like it was that. I

2586
02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:04,440
Speaker 3: feel like it was he'll kill anybody. And then in

2587
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:08,920
Speaker 3: juxtaposition with t Challah, who's surrounding himself with these black

2588
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 3: women that he listens to, and I mean, Coogler's very

2589
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:12,320
Speaker 3: much like that.

2590
02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:14,400
Speaker 2: You look at his production, you look at his friendship

2591
02:08:14,440 --> 02:08:15,520
Speaker 2: with Ava, all this shit.

2592
02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:20,720
Speaker 3: It to me it always felt intentional, So you know,

2593
02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:23,720
Speaker 3: I brought it up like, yeah, I feel like you know,

2594
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:26,840
Speaker 3: I mean, And in addition to I think multiple viewers

2595
02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:30,040
Speaker 3: will help people because also did their last like monologue

2596
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:32,720
Speaker 3: he basically says that he's not really about black liberation

2597
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:35,200
Speaker 3: as much as he's about getting revenge, which you know,

2598
02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:37,160
Speaker 3: kind of makes the best villains, in my opinion, the

2599
02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 3: best villains make you have empathy for their original story,

2600
02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:43,320
Speaker 3: but then when they unveil what they wanted.

2601
02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:44,760
Speaker 2: To end, that's why they're the bad guy.

2602
02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 5: Right.

2603
02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:48,280
Speaker 3: So when he's like, I won't basically willconder to burn

2604
02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:51,440
Speaker 3: the world to burn y'all left me behind. You know,

2605
02:08:51,640 --> 02:08:54,000
Speaker 3: I fuck y'all basically fucked the whole society.

2606
02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:55,040
Speaker 2: I don't care.

2607
02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:56,920
Speaker 3: I'll find anybody that would be loyal to you, I

2608
02:08:57,200 --> 02:08:59,880
Speaker 3: put them in a dirt tube. Like, he just kind

2609
02:08:59,920 --> 02:09:02,400
Speaker 3: of unveils his master plan of like being hurt that

2610
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:04,680
Speaker 3: you know y'all took his father away from him.

2611
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:06,080
Speaker 2: He's just still that hurt boy.

2612
02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:09,960
Speaker 3: When he goes to the spirit plane, he turns into

2613
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:13,000
Speaker 3: that little boy again and he just sees his father,

2614
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:16,760
Speaker 3: which you know, he doesn't even see the black panther

2615
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:19,600
Speaker 3: like lineage and any shit, you know, and his father

2616
02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:21,320
Speaker 3: cries because he's like, I should have taken you home

2617
02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:24,360
Speaker 3: because he sees how broken the boy is. When he says,

2618
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:28,880
Speaker 3: no tears for me, and he's like everybody dies, it's

2619
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:32,680
Speaker 3: just life around here, you know. So it kind of

2620
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 3: shows like the thing that's broken with him versus the

2621
02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:40,760
Speaker 3: empathy that the child learns, and that's one of the beauty,

2622
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:44,040
Speaker 3: beautiful parts of the movie. I love conflict that comes

2623
02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:47,960
Speaker 3: down to one person having empathy and trying to heal

2624
02:09:48,160 --> 02:09:50,280
Speaker 3: this other person who's been so hurt that they can't

2625
02:09:50,280 --> 02:09:51,920
Speaker 3: see outside of themselves.

2626
02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:53,600
Speaker 2: And that always reaches me.

2627
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:57,520
Speaker 3: I love Naruto because of that, like those fights where

2628
02:09:57,520 --> 02:10:00,920
Speaker 3: it's like like I see you and you and I

2629
02:10:01,080 --> 02:10:03,560
Speaker 3: have been hurt, and you have been hurt. Let me

2630
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:06,600
Speaker 3: heal your hurt, you know, let me help you rather

2631
02:10:06,680 --> 02:10:08,880
Speaker 3: than watch you go down this self destructive path. When

2632
02:10:09,280 --> 02:10:13,200
Speaker 3: went to Challa offers to heal him, and it's such

2633
02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:15,560
Speaker 3: a powerful moment because I think anyone who saw the

2634
02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:18,320
Speaker 3: movie never forget that last line where he was like, nah,

2635
02:10:18,480 --> 02:10:22,320
Speaker 3: bury me at sea with the rest of my ancestors,

2636
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:25,800
Speaker 3: that knew that death would be better than living in bondage,

2637
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:30,680
Speaker 3: you know, like that like that line. But yeah, a

2638
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:33,000
Speaker 3: lot of his hurt was disguised as his pro black

2639
02:10:33,160 --> 02:10:37,800
Speaker 3: liberation rhetoric that was really more about his pain inside

2640
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:41,000
Speaker 3: and his you know, being taken his father being taken

2641
02:10:41,080 --> 02:10:44,560
Speaker 3: from him, this country, having his back turned on him

2642
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:48,160
Speaker 3: and shit like that. Right, But part of that also

2643
02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:53,880
Speaker 3: was displayed by his callous disregard at best for black

2644
02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:58,440
Speaker 3: women's lives versus to 'challa's.

2645
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:02,120
Speaker 2: Pretty much uh motivating.

2646
02:11:02,240 --> 02:11:06,600
Speaker 3: One of his motivating sources being the to listen to

2647
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:10,840
Speaker 3: and protect the black women you know in his life,

2648
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:14,360
Speaker 3: you know, and those black women being capable, badass women

2649
02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:18,240
Speaker 3: that weren't on the sideline, you know, are still a

2650
02:11:18,360 --> 02:11:21,760
Speaker 3: koye is like loyalty to the throne and the conflict

2651
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:26,720
Speaker 3: that she experienced, you know, and the betrayal that niggah

2652
02:11:27,080 --> 02:11:31,240
Speaker 3: will kiwi uh the worst nigga in the world wakabi. Yeah,

2653
02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:35,480
Speaker 3: that nigga was cornball. I know he drove her car

2654
02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:39,960
Speaker 3: when he dropped off at work. Anyway, the point, but

2655
02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:45,320
Speaker 3: the point being like people got, in my opinion, like

2656
02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:51,960
Speaker 3: upset at the notion of people considering the movie beyond

2657
02:11:52,200 --> 02:11:55,720
Speaker 3: just you know, these very simple he was a good guy,

2658
02:11:55,760 --> 02:11:57,320
Speaker 3: he was a bad guy. Think they want to be

2659
02:11:57,360 --> 02:11:59,880
Speaker 3: simplistic when it's not. It's layers to it. Yeah, the

2660
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:04,440
Speaker 3: the movie purposely doesn't have simple layers, right, And I

2661
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:06,360
Speaker 3: saw people trying to go to it's just a movie.

2662
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:09,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't just a movie a week ago when y'all

2663
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:13,520
Speaker 3: were talking about this is what representation matters. This is

2664
02:12:13,600 --> 02:12:17,680
Speaker 3: why we need these heroes. Look how much money it's making,

2665
02:12:17,720 --> 02:12:22,320
Speaker 3: it showing it's an example for black Hollywood. It's okay

2666
02:12:23,120 --> 02:12:26,000
Speaker 3: to consider the movie beyond that. And more importantly, it

2667
02:12:26,120 --> 02:12:29,920
Speaker 3: was designed to be so Now I had this, just

2668
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:32,360
Speaker 3: this feeling. I thought it was obvious. I didn't think

2669
02:12:33,400 --> 02:12:35,640
Speaker 3: I swear to guy. I wasn't going, I'm gonna turn

2670
02:12:35,720 --> 02:12:37,800
Speaker 3: the timeline up. I was like, oh, yes, obvious to

2671
02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:41,720
Speaker 3: treatment of black women from the Bad Guy is completely

2672
02:12:41,880 --> 02:12:45,320
Speaker 3: juxtaposed against T'Challa. Doesn't mean that he was out here

2673
02:12:45,400 --> 02:12:47,560
Speaker 3: going I just want to be you know, like I

2674
02:12:47,600 --> 02:12:50,720
Speaker 3: saw someone saying he was Chris Brown with military training.

2675
02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm not going that far. I don't think like, I

2676
02:12:53,080 --> 02:12:55,880
Speaker 3: don't have anything inflammatory to add to it. I just

2677
02:12:55,960 --> 02:13:01,520
Speaker 3: think the It was an examination in black masculinity and

2678
02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:05,600
Speaker 3: what the fuck we consider good and bad and one

2679
02:13:05,680 --> 02:13:09,440
Speaker 3: way to be too. There's a way to want patriarchy

2680
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:11,720
Speaker 3: and to want to dominate, and to want to be

2681
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:14,680
Speaker 3: the oppressor, to be on top. That's why we call

2682
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:17,520
Speaker 3: those dudes hotels. Those That's how they got that label

2683
02:13:17,640 --> 02:13:20,760
Speaker 3: of I just want to be the black oppressor, you know,

2684
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:24,040
Speaker 3: I want to rule people, but with black people, black

2685
02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:28,520
Speaker 3: men on top us right, specific and specifically black.

2686
02:13:28,360 --> 02:13:28,880
Speaker 2: Man on top.

2687
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:31,680
Speaker 3: He didn't want what Conda as all he wanted even

2688
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:33,800
Speaker 3: his vision that I feel was a lot. But even

2689
02:13:33,880 --> 02:13:37,520
Speaker 3: in that vision, that vision was of a black man

2690
02:13:38,520 --> 02:13:43,160
Speaker 3: led what kind of waging war on the world.

2691
02:13:43,480 --> 02:13:44,680
Speaker 2: That was what he was gonna do.

2692
02:13:46,040 --> 02:13:47,840
Speaker 3: And you know, even when he took the throne, the

2693
02:13:47,880 --> 02:13:55,000
Speaker 3: way he denied okay Okoye's council, you know, the way

2694
02:13:55,360 --> 02:13:58,280
Speaker 3: that like I said, he choked the woman in the garden,

2695
02:14:00,240 --> 02:14:02,200
Speaker 3: like even kind of the demeaning of.

2696
02:14:03,680 --> 02:14:04,960
Speaker 2: The queen's.

2697
02:14:06,600 --> 02:14:10,040
Speaker 3: Title and what he's hey Annie, which is hilarious. You know,

2698
02:14:10,080 --> 02:14:12,680
Speaker 3: of course I love Hey Annie shirt, you know what

2699
02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:16,120
Speaker 3: I mean. Like, but but like even that stuff, it

2700
02:14:16,240 --> 02:14:17,240
Speaker 3: was like he was kind.

2701
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:20,200
Speaker 2: Of demeaning, like to women in general.

2702
02:14:22,360 --> 02:14:26,760
Speaker 3: Even the uh, the way that he for Daniel Coluio's

2703
02:14:26,760 --> 02:14:29,400
Speaker 3: carried with Cobby, the way he aligned with that dude,

2704
02:14:29,600 --> 02:14:33,320
Speaker 3: He didn't disrespect him, you know, like and that dude

2705
02:14:33,400 --> 02:14:35,800
Speaker 3: fell in line, which you know, black man and women

2706
02:14:36,240 --> 02:14:40,040
Speaker 3: often do another great message in them in the story.

2707
02:14:40,240 --> 02:14:42,040
Speaker 2: You know how this brother was.

2708
02:14:42,480 --> 02:14:46,760
Speaker 3: Like sided with this dude out of his lust for

2709
02:14:46,880 --> 02:14:51,160
Speaker 3: revenge and patriarchy over his lover, over Okoyer, it was

2710
02:14:51,200 --> 02:14:53,960
Speaker 3: the strongest woman in the fucking movie. And he he

2711
02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:56,440
Speaker 3: he sided with this dude he met about two hours ago.

2712
02:14:57,360 --> 02:15:01,440
Speaker 3: You know, it was like, It's an amazingly powerful narrative.

2713
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:03,240
Speaker 3: I think people will get to these layers if they

2714
02:15:03,320 --> 02:15:07,080
Speaker 3: stop denying it or stop feeling so fucking insulted that

2715
02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:09,680
Speaker 3: there would be depth in this black movie that a

2716
02:15:09,800 --> 02:15:13,440
Speaker 3: comic book movie would dare to try to touch on

2717
02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:17,800
Speaker 3: a lot of cultural touchstones in the same film. But

2718
02:15:19,080 --> 02:15:22,840
Speaker 3: I think the way that conflict is handled with women

2719
02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:27,000
Speaker 3: in the film, it does matter. The way that women

2720
02:15:27,080 --> 02:15:29,320
Speaker 3: are used in the film as opposed to being a

2721
02:15:29,440 --> 02:15:33,480
Speaker 3: part or something and being basically seen as either in

2722
02:15:33,640 --> 02:15:35,840
Speaker 3: the way or like get down to lay down.

2723
02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:37,480
Speaker 2: I think it does matter.

2724
02:15:37,600 --> 02:15:37,720
Speaker 4: You know.

2725
02:15:37,800 --> 02:15:39,960
Speaker 3: I think the fact that you don't the absence of

2726
02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:42,920
Speaker 3: a code is still a colde yes, it is so

2727
02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:46,480
Speaker 3: even in your I don't look, he'll just kill anybody.

2728
02:15:46,480 --> 02:15:49,240
Speaker 3: I don't see what the problem was you say that,

2729
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:51,640
Speaker 3: But if he killed like a kid y'all would feel different.

2730
02:15:52,360 --> 02:15:53,720
Speaker 2: Y'all know that there's certain people that.

2731
02:15:53,840 --> 02:15:57,680
Speaker 3: If you kill them, if you glorify get glee and

2732
02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:00,720
Speaker 3: killing them, we then turn to go, that's not a

2733
02:16:00,800 --> 02:16:03,800
Speaker 3: good guy. That's not an anti hero anymore, that's not

2734
02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:06,400
Speaker 3: a you know, he was a villain, and he was

2735
02:16:06,480 --> 02:16:10,440
Speaker 3: purposely a villain, like and people wanted to have fun

2736
02:16:10,520 --> 02:16:13,240
Speaker 3: and say, you know, he was writing shit.

2737
02:16:13,440 --> 02:16:13,720
Speaker 2: I don't.

2738
02:16:13,880 --> 02:16:16,440
Speaker 3: I don't begrudge them, and I don't. I want to

2739
02:16:16,520 --> 02:16:18,760
Speaker 3: be clear, I'm not trying to take away the fun.

2740
02:16:20,200 --> 02:16:23,879
Speaker 3: It's just tons of change before social media. Just imagine

2741
02:16:23,880 --> 02:16:27,640
Speaker 3: saying Magneto was right, but we had Twitter in nineteen

2742
02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:30,040
Speaker 3: sixty five or whatever the fuck you know, Like, nah,

2743
02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:32,040
Speaker 3: y'all wouldn't have been y'all would not have said it

2744
02:16:32,080 --> 02:16:33,720
Speaker 3: because I would have been like, we would have had

2745
02:16:33,760 --> 02:16:34,440
Speaker 3: to consider it.

2746
02:16:34,720 --> 02:16:36,440
Speaker 2: We used to didn't have to consider these things.

2747
02:16:36,879 --> 02:16:38,720
Speaker 3: The people who didn't want to get on board or

2748
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:41,680
Speaker 3: didn't have fun, or didn't like this shit, they just didn't.

2749
02:16:41,800 --> 02:16:43,640
Speaker 2: They just didn't exist in your head. If you didn't

2750
02:16:43,680 --> 02:16:45,200
Speaker 2: meet them or know them.

2751
02:16:45,560 --> 02:16:47,640
Speaker 3: Then it was like I can say Magneto was right,

2752
02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:50,360
Speaker 3: I can say whatever, and I can be fine with

2753
02:16:50,480 --> 02:16:54,360
Speaker 3: that I can say Sargarero was right from the last

2754
02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:57,520
Speaker 3: Star the Star Wars movie before last, I can ro going.

2755
02:16:57,600 --> 02:17:00,640
Speaker 3: I can say that while not being like, obviously I

2756
02:17:00,720 --> 02:17:03,480
Speaker 3: don't agree with terrorism and shit, you know, but I

2757
02:17:03,560 --> 02:17:06,640
Speaker 3: think because people have gotten themselves in some woke ass circles.

2758
02:17:07,560 --> 02:17:09,080
Speaker 3: Now when you say these things, you have to worry

2759
02:17:09,120 --> 02:17:13,360
Speaker 3: about the clap back. So instead of saying, well, obviously,

2760
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:15,520
Speaker 3: I don't mean now, I'm just having fun. You know,

2761
02:17:15,560 --> 02:17:17,560
Speaker 3: everybody changing the name to kill Magrant and shit like

2762
02:17:17,640 --> 02:17:21,920
Speaker 3: that because they I deal with that, identify with his

2763
02:17:22,080 --> 02:17:27,960
Speaker 3: revolutionary yeah, instead of just being like, well, obviously a

2764
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:31,160
Speaker 3: dude might have had some issues with women, instead of

2765
02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:34,160
Speaker 3: saying that it's shut the fuck up, fuck you don't

2766
02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:34,760
Speaker 3: talk about it.

2767
02:17:35,440 --> 02:17:38,920
Speaker 2: That's such a weird response to me because people.

2768
02:17:38,680 --> 02:17:40,680
Speaker 5: Don't want to have a discussion. And I also, I

2769
02:17:40,760 --> 02:17:44,000
Speaker 5: think too, and we talked about this earlier. It's a

2770
02:17:44,160 --> 02:17:48,480
Speaker 5: lot of dudes that relate with kill Monger and the

2771
02:17:48,720 --> 02:17:52,120
Speaker 5: way that he treats women and the way that he

2772
02:17:52,760 --> 02:17:56,119
Speaker 5: wants to overtake white supremacy like they really relate to him.

2773
02:17:56,640 --> 02:17:59,920
Speaker 5: And when people talk about him and begin to chill,

2774
02:18:00,240 --> 02:18:03,400
Speaker 5: you begin to dissect the character. They take it as

2775
02:18:03,440 --> 02:18:07,360
Speaker 5: a personal attack on them themselves in their masculinity.

2776
02:18:07,879 --> 02:18:10,800
Speaker 3: And I mean plenty of women, baby, plenty of women

2777
02:18:10,879 --> 02:18:14,200
Speaker 3: were defending it too, like a lot I believe that

2778
02:18:15,480 --> 02:18:18,560
Speaker 3: in hotels, right, And that's probably women Chris Brown fans

2779
02:18:18,600 --> 02:18:21,000
Speaker 3: shit like that. I mean, I guess it's easier to

2780
02:18:21,080 --> 02:18:23,200
Speaker 3: dismiss but to not even want to discuss it, to

2781
02:18:23,320 --> 02:18:25,960
Speaker 3: not even let somebody be like, oh, yeah, I noticed that.

2782
02:18:26,160 --> 02:18:29,640
Speaker 3: So here's the thing that got me though, right because

2783
02:18:29,920 --> 02:18:32,160
Speaker 3: even someone brought up Nigan in the chat. Even with Nigan,

2784
02:18:32,240 --> 02:18:34,640
Speaker 3: I know people I have, people got Nigan shirts and stuff.

2785
02:18:34,840 --> 02:18:37,040
Speaker 3: But I remember for when Nia, people were like, he's

2786
02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:39,320
Speaker 3: a rapist. He puts those women in situations down And

2787
02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:41,600
Speaker 3: I said, see, that's a thing that when you wrote

2788
02:18:41,600 --> 02:18:44,320
Speaker 3: the book Walking Dead, if I got a Nigan T shirt,

2789
02:18:44,520 --> 02:18:44,879
Speaker 3: I'd have.

2790
02:18:44,879 --> 02:18:48,519
Speaker 2: To worry about. But at social media's.

2791
02:18:48,160 --> 02:18:50,560
Speaker 3: Caught on a lot more and you say this shit now,

2792
02:18:50,680 --> 02:18:52,600
Speaker 3: and there are people that will point out, and I

2793
02:18:52,680 --> 02:18:55,720
Speaker 3: don't disagree with them. You put these women some very

2794
02:18:56,520 --> 02:18:58,680
Speaker 3: dire straits and be like, you can sex your way

2795
02:18:58,720 --> 02:19:03,040
Speaker 3: out of it. It's not exactly looking a completely consensual thing.

2796
02:19:03,160 --> 02:19:06,360
Speaker 3: And I you know, but people get mad as fuck

2797
02:19:06,600 --> 02:19:10,200
Speaker 3: about the idea of you spoiling their good time by

2798
02:19:10,360 --> 02:19:14,960
Speaker 3: raising that this thing exists in this fictional world. You know, right,

2799
02:19:16,800 --> 02:19:20,879
Speaker 3: but it's so And I'm okay with like, I understand

2800
02:19:20,920 --> 02:19:28,080
Speaker 3: that impulse, but you're not right, You're wrong. And it

2801
02:19:28,240 --> 02:19:31,160
Speaker 3: was funny because you know, people were in my mentions

2802
02:19:31,240 --> 02:19:34,080
Speaker 3: upset about it, and I'm like, you know, one dude

2803
02:19:34,240 --> 02:19:37,360
Speaker 3: was like, you're projecting. I said, I'm not projecting. I

2804
02:19:37,440 --> 02:19:39,840
Speaker 3: didn't make up that he literally laughed when he cut

2805
02:19:39,879 --> 02:19:42,240
Speaker 3: one of these women's throat. I didn't make up him

2806
02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:44,279
Speaker 3: smiling when she said your heart is full of evil.

2807
02:19:44,640 --> 02:19:46,920
Speaker 3: I didn't make up him saying hey, princess to sure.

2808
02:19:47,400 --> 02:19:49,840
Speaker 3: I didn't make up him telling this girl it'll be okay,

2809
02:19:49,879 --> 02:19:52,039
Speaker 3: and then killing her. I didn't make up these moments.

2810
02:19:52,040 --> 02:19:53,520
Speaker 3: I didn't make up Hi choking that woman in the

2811
02:19:53,600 --> 02:19:56,640
Speaker 3: garden either. I didn't make up these moments. Now you

2812
02:19:56,720 --> 02:19:59,120
Speaker 3: may feel like I'm cherry picking these moments, you know,

2813
02:19:59,320 --> 02:20:01,840
Speaker 3: but I didn't feel like he delighted in killing claw.

2814
02:20:03,160 --> 02:20:07,360
Speaker 3: Even the woman that died from and the people who

2815
02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:09,400
Speaker 3: died in the museum. He didn't kill those people. He

2816
02:20:09,480 --> 02:20:12,840
Speaker 3: didn't came in and shot those people, and he asked Claw,

2817
02:20:13,040 --> 02:20:16,160
Speaker 3: why did he do it? He said why, He's like,

2818
02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:17,840
Speaker 3: why why didn't you just shoot the dude right here?

2819
02:20:18,560 --> 02:20:22,440
Speaker 3: You know, So like I don't think that there was

2820
02:20:22,600 --> 02:20:24,160
Speaker 3: there was, like and it's a turn, right, it's a

2821
02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:26,400
Speaker 3: villain turn. Later in the movie, he's more evil, so

2822
02:20:27,080 --> 02:20:29,120
Speaker 3: you know, and he's becoming more of it. I'm just

2823
02:20:29,320 --> 02:20:33,600
Speaker 3: I'm coming under these false pretenses of Wakanda and supremacy,

2824
02:20:33,680 --> 02:20:35,640
Speaker 3: and I really meant I'm gonna fuck the whole world

2825
02:20:35,720 --> 02:20:37,320
Speaker 3: up because the world is fucked.

2826
02:20:37,160 --> 02:20:39,640
Speaker 2: Up to me, so everybody can die, you know.

2827
02:20:39,800 --> 02:20:43,400
Speaker 3: So these are very key moments that I don't know

2828
02:20:43,440 --> 02:20:45,200
Speaker 3: if people just missed them, or if they're being up

2829
02:20:45,200 --> 02:20:48,720
Speaker 3: to so on purpose or what. The thing that vindicated

2830
02:20:48,800 --> 02:20:53,000
Speaker 3: me though, Rain and April who everybody knows Oscar so White,

2831
02:20:54,840 --> 02:20:57,200
Speaker 3: So she's kind of gotten to really be around the

2832
02:20:57,280 --> 02:20:59,640
Speaker 3: cast and they've done some she had brunch done and

2833
02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:01,400
Speaker 3: shit that she's seen interviews with them, you.

2834
02:21:01,400 --> 02:21:02,400
Speaker 2: Know, even doing a lot of stuff.

2835
02:21:03,320 --> 02:21:06,840
Speaker 3: Uh was She confirmed that at brunch they asked one

2836
02:21:06,879 --> 02:21:09,360
Speaker 3: of the door Mila Jay and Ryan Coogler and stuff

2837
02:21:09,360 --> 02:21:11,640
Speaker 3: about this and it was like, yes, that's what happened.

2838
02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:13,920
Speaker 2: We wanted kill Margaret.

2839
02:21:13,680 --> 02:21:17,680
Speaker 3: To be viewed as abusive towards women in or at

2840
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:21,080
Speaker 3: least violent towards women in a way that T'Challa definitely

2841
02:21:21,320 --> 02:21:25,920
Speaker 3: is not. As that juxtaposition. You know, it's a part

2842
02:21:25,959 --> 02:21:28,680
Speaker 3: of the movie. It's a part of the examination of masculinity.

2843
02:21:28,720 --> 02:21:32,720
Speaker 3: It's a part of the way that when you measure

2844
02:21:32,800 --> 02:21:35,519
Speaker 3: masculinity in dominance and violence.

2845
02:21:35,360 --> 02:21:39,680
Speaker 2: As opposed to cooperation and learning and listening.

2846
02:21:40,959 --> 02:21:43,280
Speaker 3: Which doesn't mean that to child is any less of

2847
02:21:43,320 --> 02:21:45,400
Speaker 3: a man, doesn't mean's not violent, doesn't mean he's not

2848
02:21:45,879 --> 02:21:47,520
Speaker 3: a hero or any of shit. But this is the

2849
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:50,320
Speaker 3: difference between your hero and your villain. There has to

2850
02:21:50,400 --> 02:21:53,000
Speaker 3: be some difference. This is not a movie with two heroes.

2851
02:21:53,560 --> 02:21:55,440
Speaker 3: You know, at some point the bag I gotta go

2852
02:21:55,520 --> 02:21:57,360
Speaker 3: too far else you walk out the movie being like,

2853
02:21:57,800 --> 02:22:00,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. It felt like the felt like it

2854
02:22:00,600 --> 02:22:02,959
Speaker 3: was two heroes and the heroes lost. This ain't civil war,

2855
02:22:03,760 --> 02:22:06,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? This was different and it.

2856
02:22:06,160 --> 02:22:06,680
Speaker 2: Was kind of.

2857
02:22:08,680 --> 02:22:14,480
Speaker 3: Sad to see people refusing to recognize something that even

2858
02:22:14,600 --> 02:22:17,480
Speaker 3: the artists would say, I put in this piece for

2859
02:22:17,680 --> 02:22:18,320
Speaker 3: you to see.

2860
02:22:20,120 --> 02:22:23,320
Speaker 2: It felt so sad to me to see people hop.

2861
02:22:23,240 --> 02:22:25,080
Speaker 3: On my shit on some like, I can't believe you

2862
02:22:25,120 --> 02:22:28,199
Speaker 3: would say that, Like, I can't believe you didn't see

2863
02:22:28,400 --> 02:22:31,880
Speaker 3: what was there for you to see it. It wasn't hidden,

2864
02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:33,920
Speaker 3: it wasn't a mystery. No, So what is it in

2865
02:22:34,000 --> 02:22:36,480
Speaker 3: yourself that is so insecure about having this realization?

2866
02:22:37,600 --> 02:22:40,520
Speaker 4: And this is just me just talking in general. I

2867
02:22:40,640 --> 02:22:43,840
Speaker 4: think when people see this movie, people saw what they

2868
02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:44,560
Speaker 4: wanted to see.

2869
02:22:45,080 --> 02:22:47,040
Speaker 5: You know how you could show multiple people the same

2870
02:22:47,080 --> 02:22:48,920
Speaker 5: thing and everybody comes out with something different.

2871
02:22:49,320 --> 02:22:51,400
Speaker 4: People seeing a lot of the things that you've seen.

2872
02:22:51,440 --> 02:22:55,160
Speaker 3: Because you know, the dude was in my Facebook dms

2873
02:22:55,200 --> 02:22:57,800
Speaker 3: this morning. Baby, I'm not saying no nass, but he

2874
02:22:57,920 --> 02:23:00,680
Speaker 3: wanted me to like explain to him, you.

2875
02:23:00,720 --> 02:23:02,120
Speaker 2: Know, like what about this? What about that?

2876
02:23:02,240 --> 02:23:06,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, bruh, it's just my opinion, and your opinion

2877
02:23:06,080 --> 02:23:09,600
Speaker 3: is valid and if you don't agree, you're inclined to disagree.

2878
02:23:09,760 --> 02:23:12,400
Speaker 3: I'm not angry at you or anything, but you have

2879
02:23:12,520 --> 02:23:16,880
Speaker 3: to understand to me, this is not a less debate.

2880
02:23:17,000 --> 02:23:20,000
Speaker 3: This it's in the movie on purpose for us to see.

2881
02:23:20,480 --> 02:23:23,080
Speaker 3: I want more people to see it because I feel

2882
02:23:23,200 --> 02:23:26,520
Speaker 3: like that shit is so like, that's the shit that

2883
02:23:26,640 --> 02:23:31,760
Speaker 3: we excuse because We're like, well, he just will kill anybody. Well, yeah,

2884
02:23:31,879 --> 02:23:34,480
Speaker 3: but there's varying degrees of killing people that we think

2885
02:23:34,520 --> 02:23:38,000
Speaker 3: are worse. You know, if he was killing people in

2886
02:23:38,080 --> 02:23:40,800
Speaker 3: fucking wheelchairs or blowing up hospitals, we'd be like, yes,

2887
02:23:40,879 --> 02:23:41,320
Speaker 3: that's worse.

2888
02:23:42,040 --> 02:23:43,680
Speaker 2: You know, it is different.

2889
02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:46,600
Speaker 3: You know, there's also people that think him and Nikia

2890
02:23:47,120 --> 02:23:49,240
Speaker 3: had the same Well they both kind of had the

2891
02:23:49,280 --> 02:23:51,320
Speaker 3: same vision, but the child didn't listen.

2892
02:23:51,520 --> 02:23:53,320
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, they don't have the same vision.

2893
02:23:53,400 --> 02:23:53,920
Speaker 4: No, they didn't.

2894
02:23:54,040 --> 02:23:55,920
Speaker 2: One dude wants to start a war that would burn

2895
02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:57,240
Speaker 2: the fucking earth to the ground.

2896
02:23:57,760 --> 02:24:00,360
Speaker 3: The other person wants to reach out with diplomacy and outreach,

2897
02:24:00,480 --> 02:24:04,480
Speaker 3: technology and education to marginalize people around the globe, to

2898
02:24:04,680 --> 02:24:08,280
Speaker 3: help them, you know, kind of expand themselves and the

2899
02:24:08,400 --> 02:24:08,760
Speaker 3: gain some.

2900
02:24:08,920 --> 02:24:11,840
Speaker 2: Footing on the ground and help black people everywhere.

2901
02:24:12,640 --> 02:24:14,400
Speaker 3: He wants to arm black people and have them kill

2902
02:24:14,480 --> 02:24:18,520
Speaker 3: folks who ain't gonna send them guns to. Doctor Umar said,

2903
02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:19,840
Speaker 3: he like, who the fuck are you gonna kill the

2904
02:24:20,000 --> 02:24:23,040
Speaker 3: send these guns to, Like, like, it does matter. The

2905
02:24:23,120 --> 02:24:26,760
Speaker 3: difference between all these things are in the movie, and

2906
02:24:26,840 --> 02:24:29,520
Speaker 3: that's almost as if you if you examine it the

2907
02:24:29,600 --> 02:24:32,760
Speaker 3: way we I can't tell what niggas want? Do you

2908
02:24:32,959 --> 02:24:37,320
Speaker 3: want me to not examine it with the reverence that

2909
02:24:37,440 --> 02:24:42,720
Speaker 3: I have for Star Wars, for what I consider to

2910
02:24:42,800 --> 02:24:45,240
Speaker 3: be cinematic classics, where I'm like, oh, you can find

2911
02:24:45,320 --> 02:24:47,480
Speaker 3: more depth the more you watch it, the deeper this

2912
02:24:47,560 --> 02:24:50,600
Speaker 3: shit goes. Oh my god, it's so beautiful. Should I

2913
02:24:50,760 --> 02:24:55,960
Speaker 3: not want to get every morsel of entertainment and thought

2914
02:24:56,080 --> 02:24:59,840
Speaker 3: from this project that is years in the making, h

2915
02:25:00,840 --> 02:25:03,760
Speaker 3: the only of its kind? Should I not want that?

2916
02:25:04,560 --> 02:25:07,560
Speaker 3: So you can be comfortable because all I'm doing is music.

2917
02:25:07,640 --> 02:25:10,280
Speaker 3: You can ignore me you don't. I don't like it

2918
02:25:10,360 --> 02:25:13,120
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what I think. If you don't want to

2919
02:25:13,160 --> 02:25:14,440
Speaker 3: have this thought, if you just want to go it

2920
02:25:14,520 --> 02:25:17,440
Speaker 3: was they was punching each other, Comic books didn't didn't

2921
02:25:17,480 --> 02:25:18,080
Speaker 3: leave me out of it.

2922
02:25:18,160 --> 02:25:21,000
Speaker 2: It didn't. Why is it threatening to you that I

2923
02:25:21,040 --> 02:25:22,600
Speaker 2: would examine it any further than that.

2924
02:25:23,440 --> 02:25:26,680
Speaker 5: I did several things. Number one, and I say this,

2925
02:25:26,800 --> 02:25:28,960
Speaker 5: and I will always consider to say this. A lot

2926
02:25:29,000 --> 02:25:31,880
Speaker 5: of people don't have and they don't exercise critical thinking skills.

2927
02:25:32,760 --> 02:25:37,080
Speaker 5: And I think when people see those comments, because a

2928
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:40,600
Speaker 5: lot of people, even women, are we got to protect

2929
02:25:40,600 --> 02:25:42,520
Speaker 5: the black men at all, calls like like like, that's

2930
02:25:42,560 --> 02:25:45,160
Speaker 5: a group of people that's kind of jumping at you. You,

2931
02:25:45,280 --> 02:25:47,760
Speaker 5: how dare you criticize the black man? How dare you

2932
02:25:47,879 --> 02:25:49,800
Speaker 5: say a black man was wrong? How dare you say

2933
02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:52,160
Speaker 5: a black man was right? How dare you say a

2934
02:25:52,280 --> 02:25:54,879
Speaker 5: black man they won't black man do do the same

2935
02:25:55,040 --> 02:25:55,840
Speaker 5: oppressive shit?

2936
02:25:56,440 --> 02:25:57,000
Speaker 4: How dare you?

2937
02:25:57,160 --> 02:25:59,560
Speaker 5: And you have a lot of that group that's coming

2938
02:25:59,600 --> 02:26:01,760
Speaker 5: out of the woodworks now, Like I said before, you

2939
02:26:01,800 --> 02:26:03,640
Speaker 5: can know what them niggas, but they come because of

2940
02:26:03,680 --> 02:26:06,360
Speaker 5: the Internet. They come out of woodworks now find niggas

2941
02:26:06,400 --> 02:26:11,039
Speaker 5: seeking people to argue with and debate with, because at

2942
02:26:11,080 --> 02:26:12,840
Speaker 5: the end of the day, this is how they feel

2943
02:26:12,840 --> 02:26:13,800
Speaker 5: about every fucking thing.

2944
02:26:14,240 --> 02:26:17,119
Speaker 4: You know. How you know that group of people don't

2945
02:26:17,160 --> 02:26:19,240
Speaker 4: care how women are treated. Let's just keep this real.

2946
02:26:19,480 --> 02:26:22,880
Speaker 5: They don't care about the mistreatment of our society. You know,

2947
02:26:23,000 --> 02:26:24,440
Speaker 5: they don't care about this shit.

2948
02:26:24,680 --> 02:26:26,800
Speaker 3: Well, I just want to say, I know the people

2949
02:26:26,840 --> 02:26:29,520
Speaker 3: that applied to me, some of them they're not all

2950
02:26:29,720 --> 02:26:32,800
Speaker 3: like that. But it wasn't just the hotel dudes or

2951
02:26:32,840 --> 02:26:36,200
Speaker 3: the like pick me chicks like these. Some of these

2952
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:40,640
Speaker 3: people otherwise seem to be pretty up on shit. You know,

2953
02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:44,800
Speaker 3: at least understand some levels of feminism and womanism and

2954
02:26:44,840 --> 02:26:47,360
Speaker 3: shit like that, But in this particular situation, it's like

2955
02:26:47,400 --> 02:26:50,800
Speaker 3: they were almost insulted at the idea that the bad

2956
02:26:50,879 --> 02:26:53,720
Speaker 3: guy could have been bad in multiple ways other than

2957
02:26:53,920 --> 02:26:56,320
Speaker 3: just the simplistic I'm a bad.

2958
02:26:56,240 --> 02:26:57,520
Speaker 2: Guy, and you know we.

2959
02:26:59,080 --> 02:27:00,360
Speaker 4: Everybody has a blind spot.

2960
02:27:00,440 --> 02:27:02,720
Speaker 5: And no matter how woke you are, no matter how

2961
02:27:02,800 --> 02:27:05,120
Speaker 5: on top of shit you are, no matter how much

2962
02:27:05,160 --> 02:27:08,280
Speaker 5: you read, no matter how many speeches you give, no

2963
02:27:08,400 --> 02:27:10,800
Speaker 5: matter how much you try to say, everybody has a

2964
02:27:10,840 --> 02:27:14,320
Speaker 5: blind spot. And for a lot of people, they feel like,

2965
02:27:14,600 --> 02:27:16,800
Speaker 5: this is my shit, this is the way I love

2966
02:27:16,840 --> 02:27:19,520
Speaker 5: it like I love it this particular way. And if

2967
02:27:19,560 --> 02:27:21,760
Speaker 5: you don't love my black shit the way I love

2968
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:24,200
Speaker 5: my black shit, I have to defend it. Like I

2969
02:27:24,320 --> 02:27:26,560
Speaker 5: can't just let you enjoy your shit the way you

2970
02:27:26,760 --> 02:27:29,760
Speaker 5: enjoy your shit. I can't let you have it your

2971
02:27:29,800 --> 02:27:32,000
Speaker 5: way and me just go, oh, I don't agree with you,

2972
02:27:32,080 --> 02:27:34,960
Speaker 5: and keep it trucking. There's something within me, There's an

2973
02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:38,440
Speaker 5: insecurity within me. There's something that the strikes up within

2974
02:27:38,560 --> 02:27:41,520
Speaker 5: me that makes me want to say something to you,

2975
02:27:41,920 --> 02:27:45,280
Speaker 5: regardless of how irrational, regardless of how illogical, regardless of

2976
02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:48,720
Speaker 5: how intelligent I am, This is, and I think it has,

2977
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:50,200
Speaker 5: in my opinion, has to do with this is just

2978
02:27:50,360 --> 02:27:53,200
Speaker 5: being black shit that everybody loves, because I think if

2979
02:27:53,240 --> 02:27:54,959
Speaker 5: this would have been something else with some white folks,

2980
02:27:55,000 --> 02:27:56,320
Speaker 5: most of them people would have said nothing to you,

2981
02:27:56,360 --> 02:27:57,000
Speaker 5: They wouldn't have had.

2982
02:27:56,920 --> 02:27:58,160
Speaker 4: A comment, they would most of it would have went

2983
02:27:58,200 --> 02:28:00,600
Speaker 4: on about their way. But because this this is something

2984
02:28:00,680 --> 02:28:01,480
Speaker 4: that strikes.

2985
02:28:01,120 --> 02:28:03,760
Speaker 5: A court within the black community, people feel like they

2986
02:28:03,920 --> 02:28:06,240
Speaker 5: have to say something, and they feel like they have

2987
02:28:06,480 --> 02:28:11,200
Speaker 5: to defend it because it's something that goes against whatever

2988
02:28:11,280 --> 02:28:13,880
Speaker 5: it is within them, and they feel like, if you

2989
02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:16,800
Speaker 5: don't agree one hundred percent with me, there's something wrong

2990
02:28:16,840 --> 02:28:19,800
Speaker 5: with you, not that there might be something wrong with

2991
02:28:19,920 --> 02:28:21,160
Speaker 5: my opinion, and that's okay.

2992
02:28:21,640 --> 02:28:24,360
Speaker 4: I think that sometimes people take things personal, sometimes that

2993
02:28:24,520 --> 02:28:27,840
Speaker 4: aren't meant to be out there as personal.

2994
02:28:28,240 --> 02:28:31,560
Speaker 2: It's wild because the fucking director is like, this is

2995
02:28:31,640 --> 02:28:32,199
Speaker 2: in the film.

2996
02:28:32,400 --> 02:28:34,880
Speaker 3: It don't matter, and niggas are mad at me for

2997
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:38,280
Speaker 3: noticing it's in the film, Like maybe you should check

2998
02:28:38,280 --> 02:28:40,520
Speaker 3: yourself and be like, yo, why don't I want to

2999
02:28:40,600 --> 02:28:46,360
Speaker 3: examine that a film that is extremely focused on the

3000
02:28:46,440 --> 02:28:51,240
Speaker 3: placement of black women in the narrative would also make

3001
02:28:51,320 --> 02:28:55,280
Speaker 3: a statement by the bad guys disregard of black women

3002
02:28:55,360 --> 02:28:58,879
Speaker 3: in the narrative narrative. I didn't say he targeted black women.

3003
02:28:59,000 --> 02:29:01,720
Speaker 3: I didn't say he owned he kills black women. I'm

3004
02:29:01,800 --> 02:29:06,280
Speaker 3: saying he is specifically callous and brutal towards them as

3005
02:29:06,560 --> 02:29:10,200
Speaker 3: anyone else. For a man who claims to be pro black,

3006
02:29:10,280 --> 02:29:13,360
Speaker 3: for a man that claims to be proclond for Condon,

3007
02:29:13,879 --> 02:29:18,320
Speaker 3: he is much more. He is brutal, He is laughing,

3008
02:29:18,680 --> 02:29:21,040
Speaker 3: he is smiling. And the fact that that it's on

3009
02:29:21,200 --> 02:29:23,600
Speaker 3: the screen and we as black people see it and

3010
02:29:23,720 --> 02:29:26,720
Speaker 3: don't even notice it to the point where we get

3011
02:29:26,800 --> 02:29:30,200
Speaker 3: angry that someone would notice it, right, something that was

3012
02:29:30,240 --> 02:29:33,600
Speaker 3: placed in a film for us to notice, to see

3013
02:29:33,720 --> 02:29:36,600
Speaker 3: every detail. This is what the fuck They crafted this

3014
02:29:36,800 --> 02:29:39,840
Speaker 3: narrative on purpose, you know what I mean? They want

3015
02:29:39,959 --> 02:29:42,840
Speaker 3: us to see it, and you have people angry that

3016
02:29:42,959 --> 02:29:44,320
Speaker 3: you would dare examine it.

3017
02:29:45,440 --> 02:29:46,600
Speaker 2: It bothers the fuck out of me.

3018
02:29:46,760 --> 02:29:49,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that, and from my perspective, because

3019
02:29:49,840 --> 02:29:51,800
Speaker 5: the way your mind ticks in the way you think,

3020
02:29:52,320 --> 02:29:54,400
Speaker 5: I think for a lot of people.

3021
02:29:55,200 --> 02:29:57,560
Speaker 4: You have a lot of people coming from a perspective

3022
02:29:57,680 --> 02:30:00,760
Speaker 4: where where the right wrong.

3023
02:30:00,840 --> 02:30:04,840
Speaker 5: We're indifferent, and sometimes I understand They're like, they'll put

3024
02:30:04,920 --> 02:30:07,160
Speaker 5: you in the same group as people that always complain

3025
02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:08,080
Speaker 5: about black shit, but.

3026
02:30:08,120 --> 02:30:09,039
Speaker 4: You're not one of them.

3027
02:30:09,200 --> 02:30:13,440
Speaker 5: It's like sometimes they can't separate the groups, right, But

3028
02:30:14,040 --> 02:30:16,360
Speaker 5: in their mind they can't separate the because I say,

3029
02:30:16,400 --> 02:30:19,640
Speaker 5: you don't exercise and you don't really have the nuance

3030
02:30:19,720 --> 02:30:21,800
Speaker 5: to actually, particular with social media, it's not designed for that,

3031
02:30:21,840 --> 02:30:25,760
Speaker 5: particularly Twitter, You saying that statement is the same as

3032
02:30:25,800 --> 02:30:28,640
Speaker 5: somebody else saying something and actually mean that shit, because

3033
02:30:29,120 --> 02:30:31,240
Speaker 5: in their mind, I can't tell the difference of if

3034
02:30:31,280 --> 02:30:33,160
Speaker 5: you're joking or not or if you mean it or not.

3035
02:30:33,800 --> 02:30:36,640
Speaker 5: They lump you in the same group as the people

3036
02:30:36,760 --> 02:30:39,480
Speaker 5: that's coming forth and talking about the movie.

3037
02:30:39,520 --> 02:30:39,960
Speaker 4: Ain't shit.

3038
02:30:40,080 --> 02:30:40,520
Speaker 2: I hate it.

3039
02:30:40,600 --> 02:30:43,440
Speaker 4: It don't represent black people. No, no, no, you actually

3040
02:30:43,520 --> 02:30:45,440
Speaker 4: loved the movie. You said you loved the movie.

3041
02:30:45,600 --> 02:30:48,400
Speaker 5: You express that enough, and you're going because of this,

3042
02:30:48,720 --> 02:30:51,200
Speaker 5: this makes the movie even better, Like it has a

3043
02:30:51,280 --> 02:30:52,280
Speaker 5: deeper concept to me.

3044
02:30:52,800 --> 02:30:55,240
Speaker 4: And I think for a lot of people, they kind

3045
02:30:55,280 --> 02:30:57,640
Speaker 4: of pick and choose your words, right.

3046
02:30:57,600 --> 02:31:01,760
Speaker 3: And and I've never I didn't he targeted black women, right,

3047
02:31:01,840 --> 02:31:03,720
Speaker 3: But yet I have people going, well, I just take

3048
02:31:03,760 --> 02:31:05,160
Speaker 3: issue what you say targeted black women.

3049
02:31:05,200 --> 02:31:07,200
Speaker 2: I didn't say that, right, but but you know what

3050
02:31:07,240 --> 02:31:07,520
Speaker 2: I mean.

3051
02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:08,520
Speaker 4: But that's not the thing.

3052
02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:12,000
Speaker 5: Because of the way social media is designed, they can

3053
02:31:12,120 --> 02:31:15,480
Speaker 5: do that. They can pick things and say, I'm taking

3054
02:31:15,560 --> 02:31:19,280
Speaker 5: this one segment off part of this fifty tweet thread

3055
02:31:19,400 --> 02:31:22,680
Speaker 5: you posted. They take that one thing, or either people

3056
02:31:22,760 --> 02:31:26,360
Speaker 5: have retweeted several different things you have said all day

3057
02:31:26,440 --> 02:31:29,400
Speaker 5: long and it hits somebody timeline and they go, well,

3058
02:31:29,480 --> 02:31:31,160
Speaker 5: oh this is that hotep nigga whatever?

3059
02:31:31,280 --> 02:31:34,600
Speaker 3: When that when it's not you, Yeah, it's like it's basically,

3060
02:31:34,920 --> 02:31:40,199
Speaker 3: in my opinion, the balance in this movie is masculinity

3061
02:31:40,400 --> 02:31:46,840
Speaker 3: without the combination of the feminine is weak.

3062
02:31:47,480 --> 02:31:48,320
Speaker 2: Correct, It is not.

3063
02:31:48,520 --> 02:31:53,160
Speaker 3: It is all bravado. It is not true power. It's

3064
02:31:53,280 --> 02:31:54,560
Speaker 3: anger without control.

3065
02:31:55,480 --> 02:31:55,640
Speaker 4: You know.

3066
02:31:55,879 --> 02:31:58,680
Speaker 2: That's the difference to me. That's the message underlying it.

3067
02:31:59,000 --> 02:32:00,959
Speaker 3: That's the message I think they want us to see,

3068
02:32:01,640 --> 02:32:03,840
Speaker 3: and and and and then and in our ability to

3069
02:32:03,879 --> 02:32:08,320
Speaker 3: try to simplify it down to something that has no depth,

3070
02:32:08,600 --> 02:32:10,280
Speaker 3: I think we do the movie a disservice.

3071
02:32:10,480 --> 02:32:11,840
Speaker 2: We do the artists a disservice.

3072
02:32:12,000 --> 02:32:14,240
Speaker 3: We do the writers of disservice, We do the director

3073
02:32:14,240 --> 02:32:17,720
Speaker 3: of disservice, We do the actor's portrayal of disservice. You know,

3074
02:32:17,920 --> 02:32:21,199
Speaker 3: we and and and I don't understand what the insult

3075
02:32:21,240 --> 02:32:23,640
Speaker 3: of saying, yo, this black ship is deep as fuck.

3076
02:32:24,080 --> 02:32:26,440
Speaker 3: I don't understand how the fuck that is an insult

3077
02:32:26,520 --> 02:32:28,680
Speaker 3: into anyone, if not that it is me saying the

3078
02:32:28,760 --> 02:32:31,400
Speaker 3: movie is better than you fucking even can imagine. Watch

3079
02:32:31,440 --> 02:32:33,480
Speaker 3: it again and look at it through a different lens,

3080
02:32:33,480 --> 02:32:37,040
Speaker 3: and you'll see, like this, the it's not about him

3081
02:32:37,080 --> 02:32:40,600
Speaker 3: targeting black women, is about this one character who is

3082
02:32:40,680 --> 02:32:44,080
Speaker 3: his opposite basically, and how his the only way he

3083
02:32:44,160 --> 02:32:48,520
Speaker 3: could win was through his inclusion of black women throughout it,

3084
02:32:48,720 --> 02:32:50,360
Speaker 3: Like this one dude basically try to do it without

3085
02:32:50,400 --> 02:32:50,840
Speaker 3: black women.

3086
02:32:51,160 --> 02:32:51,680
Speaker 2: He's like, I can.

3087
02:32:51,800 --> 02:32:53,920
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do this shit me and this. There's

3088
02:32:53,959 --> 02:32:57,200
Speaker 3: one group of niggas with Derhino's we got this, and

3089
02:32:57,320 --> 02:33:00,440
Speaker 3: the other dude was like, Yo, we can't. There is

3090
02:33:00,560 --> 02:33:04,520
Speaker 3: no win without everybody. And when he even tried that

3091
02:33:04,600 --> 02:33:07,880
Speaker 3: patriarchal moment, they're like, because to Chila's still a man, right, right,

3092
02:33:08,080 --> 02:33:10,039
Speaker 3: So he's still like That's one of the things they

3093
02:33:10,120 --> 02:33:10,400
Speaker 3: kept in.

3094
02:33:10,440 --> 02:33:12,800
Speaker 2: The movie that was so good. It's also in the comics.

3095
02:33:12,800 --> 02:33:14,800
Speaker 2: It's one of the things I love to Challa still

3096
02:33:14,840 --> 02:33:15,160
Speaker 2: a dude.

3097
02:33:15,800 --> 02:33:17,920
Speaker 3: And while a Condon culture does have like an elevation

3098
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:21,320
Speaker 3: of women compared to other cultures, he's still a dude.

3099
02:33:21,680 --> 02:33:22,320
Speaker 4: So he has.

3100
02:33:22,200 --> 02:33:24,680
Speaker 3: These man moments, and one of them was when he

3101
02:33:24,760 --> 02:33:30,080
Speaker 3: told them like, YO, take care of my mom. Surey, Nikiyah,

3102
02:33:30,760 --> 02:33:32,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this by myself. I'm gonna go there,

3103
02:33:32,640 --> 02:33:34,720
Speaker 3: and there was like, no, Nigga, that's stupid.

3104
02:33:35,640 --> 02:33:36,680
Speaker 2: We gonna help you.

3105
02:33:36,800 --> 02:33:39,240
Speaker 3: You obviously need help. You can't do this by yourself.

3106
02:33:39,920 --> 02:33:42,320
Speaker 3: And that's the kind of thing where he has to listen.

3107
02:33:42,680 --> 02:33:47,039
Speaker 3: The fact that this whole journey was from T'Challa being

3108
02:33:47,120 --> 02:33:51,640
Speaker 3: a wakandon an African to being black just across the

3109
02:33:51,720 --> 02:33:56,400
Speaker 3: diaspora of blackness to unifying quality of blackness. The fact

3110
02:33:56,440 --> 02:33:59,480
Speaker 3: that that's what the movie theme was for him for

3111
02:33:59,600 --> 02:34:02,400
Speaker 3: his person, no journey that came from the Kia in

3112
02:34:02,480 --> 02:34:05,280
Speaker 3: the beginning, that's who he listened to. At the end,

3113
02:34:05,320 --> 02:34:07,200
Speaker 3: he did exactly what the fuck she said they need

3114
02:34:07,280 --> 02:34:10,960
Speaker 3: to do, also in an effort to keep her with

3115
02:34:11,200 --> 02:34:14,560
Speaker 3: him so she could be his queen, like that shit

3116
02:34:14,720 --> 02:34:18,800
Speaker 3: is right there, but instead I got motherfucker's more upset

3117
02:34:18,879 --> 02:34:20,600
Speaker 3: than I would notice that what is one.

3118
02:34:20,560 --> 02:34:23,080
Speaker 2: Dude in just the position, did a lot of shit

3119
02:34:23,160 --> 02:34:24,920
Speaker 2: fronk it right, you know what I mean?

3120
02:34:25,200 --> 02:34:27,200
Speaker 4: And that boils back to what I was saying before.

3121
02:34:27,360 --> 02:34:29,000
Speaker 4: Some people think all.

3122
02:34:30,720 --> 02:34:34,640
Speaker 5: Some people think black critique of any kind is some

3123
02:34:34,760 --> 02:34:38,200
Speaker 5: people just rejected, you know, and that's the reality of it.

3124
02:34:38,320 --> 02:34:40,200
Speaker 4: Some people think that it's black.

3125
02:34:40,680 --> 02:34:43,440
Speaker 5: It's black, and we've seen it before, we sing and

3126
02:34:43,560 --> 02:34:45,360
Speaker 5: I haven't read a lot of it, but y'all read

3127
02:34:45,440 --> 02:34:46,160
Speaker 5: black comic.

3128
02:34:45,959 --> 02:34:47,560
Speaker 4: Books that y'all say, this shit is trash.

3129
02:34:47,680 --> 02:34:49,240
Speaker 5: And just because it's black, don't mean I need to

3130
02:34:49,240 --> 02:34:51,440
Speaker 5: support it or this movie is trashed. And just because

3131
02:34:51,440 --> 02:34:53,640
Speaker 5: you have some people there, I'm black, y'all, I'm black

3132
02:34:53,720 --> 02:34:55,560
Speaker 5: or black, and I'm black, y'all, And don't you dare

3133
02:34:55,640 --> 02:34:58,480
Speaker 5: criticize anything black, And don't you dare say something to

3134
02:34:58,560 --> 02:35:00,640
Speaker 5: be about how I shit ain't perfec how I shoul

3135
02:35:00,680 --> 02:35:01,240
Speaker 5: ain't together.

3136
02:35:01,480 --> 02:35:02,840
Speaker 4: They don't want to hear any critiques.

3137
02:35:03,040 --> 02:35:07,400
Speaker 3: It's wild, though, because it's ain't criticism, right, like, not

3138
02:35:07,560 --> 02:35:09,920
Speaker 3: in the way, not in the way of I'm trying

3139
02:35:09,959 --> 02:35:11,320
Speaker 3: to take this movie down a notch.

3140
02:35:11,360 --> 02:35:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm being critical.

3141
02:35:12,640 --> 02:35:16,680
Speaker 3: It's criticism in the definition of criticism, which is literally

3142
02:35:16,800 --> 02:35:20,320
Speaker 3: like I'm looking at it, critically examining it and saying,

3143
02:35:20,440 --> 02:35:23,200
Speaker 3: look at this nugget, look at this look at this

3144
02:35:23,320 --> 02:35:25,440
Speaker 3: thing we didn't think about. Look how deep this shit

3145
02:35:25,520 --> 02:35:28,120
Speaker 3: can be, and don't I don't know if it's just

3146
02:35:28,200 --> 02:35:31,119
Speaker 3: like our culture has such an issue with worshiping.

3147
02:35:32,160 --> 02:35:36,720
Speaker 2: Toxic black men that we like or toxic men.

3148
02:35:36,760 --> 02:35:39,360
Speaker 3: I shouldn't just say black men looking at toxic men

3149
02:35:40,200 --> 02:35:42,560
Speaker 3: and in this case black men and kind of a

3150
02:35:42,720 --> 02:35:46,320
Speaker 3: sway like kind of pushing it to the side, like yeah,

3151
02:35:46,640 --> 02:35:48,440
Speaker 3: but it's kind of like the whole me too thing

3152
02:35:48,480 --> 02:35:52,039
Speaker 3: where it's like, I mean, sure a Jesus is sorry,

3153
02:35:52,160 --> 02:35:54,760
Speaker 3: but I like it show. I mean, it ain't like

3154
02:35:54,840 --> 02:35:57,440
Speaker 3: he Harvey Weinstein, and it's like that's kind of the feelings,

3155
02:35:57,520 --> 02:35:59,760
Speaker 3: like y'all acting like he turned them, Like I'm not

3156
02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:01,000
Speaker 3: acting like he's like Turner.

3157
02:36:01,080 --> 02:36:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying the nigga don't give a fuck.

3158
02:36:03,240 --> 02:36:06,320
Speaker 3: But it's in direct contrast to to Challa, who does,

3159
02:36:07,040 --> 02:36:10,320
Speaker 3: which is the main state. That's what makes him. That's

3160
02:36:10,360 --> 02:36:13,160
Speaker 3: what makes the childa the hero and this guy the villain.

3161
02:36:13,240 --> 02:36:16,640
Speaker 3: It's more than just he's the bad guy because he's

3162
02:36:16,720 --> 02:36:19,680
Speaker 3: against the Chila. He's it's the way they moved throughout

3163
02:36:19,720 --> 02:36:25,520
Speaker 3: this world that deeply emphasizes the good versus the bad here,

3164
02:36:26,120 --> 02:36:26,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

3165
02:36:27,280 --> 02:36:29,080
Speaker 2: And yes, you can still where your Kim Marnger was

3166
02:36:29,120 --> 02:36:31,360
Speaker 2: white shirt. I ain't mad at you, bruh. You know

3167
02:36:31,400 --> 02:36:32,280
Speaker 2: what I mean. I get it.

3168
02:36:32,560 --> 02:36:35,640
Speaker 3: But it's still like, but if I talk about this movie,

3169
02:36:35,959 --> 02:36:37,680
Speaker 3: when I talk about how fucking great it is, I'm

3170
02:36:37,680 --> 02:36:38,680
Speaker 3: gonna talk about it all.

3171
02:36:39,320 --> 02:36:39,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

3172
02:36:39,879 --> 02:36:41,840
Speaker 3: It's like when you talk about a song you like

3173
02:36:41,959 --> 02:36:44,440
Speaker 3: and this nigga was on the drums and this motherfucker

3174
02:36:44,440 --> 02:36:44,959
Speaker 3: played guitar.

3175
02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:47,840
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about this fucking movie. Like it's

3176
02:36:47,959 --> 02:36:48,480
Speaker 2: that good.

3177
02:36:48,640 --> 02:36:52,680
Speaker 3: It deserves to be talked about beyond just good guys

3178
02:36:52,760 --> 02:36:53,680
Speaker 3: punching bad guys.

3179
02:36:53,840 --> 02:36:54,640
Speaker 2: And that's okay.

3180
02:36:55,560 --> 02:36:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

3181
02:36:55,840 --> 02:36:59,480
Speaker 5: Also it boies back into the cancelation culture because you

3182
02:36:59,640 --> 02:37:01,720
Speaker 5: have a lot of people that are in these vot

3183
02:37:01,800 --> 02:37:05,080
Speaker 5: groups who they don't want to be looked upon like this.

3184
02:37:05,400 --> 02:37:06,800
Speaker 5: A lot of people don't want to go fuck it.

3185
02:37:07,400 --> 02:37:08,480
Speaker 5: I agree with this dude.

3186
02:37:09,280 --> 02:37:11,120
Speaker 4: It don't mean it. Don't mean the shit he did

3187
02:37:11,280 --> 02:37:14,160
Speaker 4: wasn't fucked up. But I want to wear my kill monga.

3188
02:37:14,240 --> 02:37:16,760
Speaker 5: I want to make these jokes and it's all right,

3189
02:37:17,160 --> 02:37:20,080
Speaker 5: but because you have ingratiate yourself a lot of these

3190
02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:23,240
Speaker 5: woke crowds and a lot of these woke friends, anything

3191
02:37:23,360 --> 02:37:25,600
Speaker 5: you say is contrary to them. Not all of them,

3192
02:37:25,640 --> 02:37:27,520
Speaker 5: but a lot of them in that council culture. Get

3193
02:37:27,520 --> 02:37:30,200
Speaker 5: it a fuck away from me. We ain't friends no more.

3194
02:37:30,240 --> 02:37:31,360
Speaker 5: I don't want to have shit to deal with you

3195
02:37:31,440 --> 02:37:34,720
Speaker 5: because we disagreed, you know, And there's no nuance to

3196
02:37:35,480 --> 02:37:37,640
Speaker 5: the relationships online for a lot of people.

3197
02:37:37,800 --> 02:37:39,800
Speaker 4: It's like, like I said, everybody find they tribe, and

3198
02:37:39,879 --> 02:37:41,120
Speaker 4: some people's tribes are online.

3199
02:37:41,240 --> 02:37:43,520
Speaker 5: Like for some people, you know, they might not have

3200
02:37:43,560 --> 02:37:44,840
Speaker 5: a lot of friends in real life, but when they

3201
02:37:44,920 --> 02:37:45,640
Speaker 5: go on line, it's.

3202
02:37:45,480 --> 02:37:47,119
Speaker 4: This whole new world open up to them.

3203
02:37:47,280 --> 02:37:49,039
Speaker 5: And a lot of people are scared, so they will

3204
02:37:49,120 --> 02:37:51,880
Speaker 5: fight and defend it tooth and nail because they don't

3205
02:37:51,879 --> 02:37:55,120
Speaker 5: want to give up their power of saying I.

3206
02:37:56,720 --> 02:37:59,760
Speaker 4: Believe or I think that this character is funny. I

3207
02:37:59,760 --> 02:38:00,520
Speaker 4: want to crack my.

3208
02:38:00,560 --> 02:38:04,880
Speaker 5: Jokes because even when because you have to think about movies,

3209
02:38:05,120 --> 02:38:07,160
Speaker 5: you know, like Breaking Bad, how many people love that

3210
02:38:07,240 --> 02:38:09,840
Speaker 5: fucking white dude, you know, the Sopranos.

3211
02:38:09,879 --> 02:38:11,480
Speaker 4: How many people love him? And how many people go

3212
02:38:11,760 --> 02:38:14,400
Speaker 4: the ship they did was fucked up, but I understand, you.

3213
02:38:14,440 --> 02:38:16,959
Speaker 5: Know, when it comes to those actors, it's a nuance there,

3214
02:38:17,040 --> 02:38:19,680
Speaker 5: it's a it's a oh, I can understand, it's.

3215
02:38:19,560 --> 02:38:21,279
Speaker 4: A you know, because it's not black cinema.

3216
02:38:21,360 --> 02:38:23,640
Speaker 5: So for some reason people separate themselves out of it,

3217
02:38:23,920 --> 02:38:26,879
Speaker 5: and they'll go, well, we can have nuanced about Tony Soprano,

3218
02:38:27,000 --> 02:38:28,640
Speaker 5: we can have nuances, and there's some people that will

3219
02:38:28,640 --> 02:38:29,600
Speaker 5: defend that ship to the death.

3220
02:38:29,640 --> 02:38:30,080
Speaker 4: Don't get me.

3221
02:38:30,080 --> 02:38:33,400
Speaker 3: Wrong, because people act like it's an assassination of the

3222
02:38:33,440 --> 02:38:35,920
Speaker 3: movie when I'm it's the opposite, right, And I know

3223
02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:39,800
Speaker 3: there are some people out there that are like completely awesome,

3224
02:38:39,920 --> 02:38:42,440
Speaker 3: like fuck this movie. I'm gonna be contrary, and I'm

3225
02:38:42,440 --> 02:38:45,039
Speaker 3: gonna tell you all they shit fuck them people.

3226
02:38:45,120 --> 02:38:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm not.

3227
02:38:45,680 --> 02:38:47,760
Speaker 3: I'm not one of those people. I'm not saying that

3228
02:38:48,120 --> 02:38:50,480
Speaker 3: this is I'm saying it's such hot art. We should

3229
02:38:50,680 --> 02:38:52,840
Speaker 3: consider it the same way we consider Shakespeare and shit,

3230
02:38:53,120 --> 02:38:54,960
Speaker 3: because it can because it has depths in there that

3231
02:38:55,000 --> 02:38:57,520
Speaker 3: are meant to be ac celebrated and explored that way.

3232
02:38:58,200 --> 02:39:02,240
Speaker 3: And instead I met with its reductionist ass like don't

3233
02:39:02,280 --> 02:39:05,280
Speaker 3: bring that up. And like I said, I feel affirmed

3234
02:39:05,920 --> 02:39:09,520
Speaker 3: because when fucking the director and the cast are telling

3235
02:39:09,600 --> 02:39:11,279
Speaker 3: me that it's in the movie, and I ain't crazy,

3236
02:39:12,200 --> 02:39:14,600
Speaker 3: y'all can all kiss my ass, you know what I mean,

3237
02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:17,480
Speaker 3: because it's right fucking there, So don't tell me like

3238
02:39:17,680 --> 02:39:19,920
Speaker 3: I'm looking too far into it. They put it in

3239
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:22,560
Speaker 3: there to be looked for, so that so maybe you're

3240
02:39:22,640 --> 02:39:25,600
Speaker 3: not looking far enough in yourself, and you can take

3241
02:39:25,640 --> 02:39:27,600
Speaker 3: what you want to from the movie. Believe me the

3242
02:39:27,680 --> 02:39:31,800
Speaker 3: fuck out of this shit if your delusions, you.

3243
02:39:31,840 --> 02:39:33,880
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, because I see this is one

3244
02:39:33,920 --> 02:39:34,680
Speaker 2: of the problems right.

3245
02:39:34,959 --> 02:39:38,440
Speaker 3: People want to be so fucking good quote unquote for

3246
02:39:38,840 --> 02:39:41,039
Speaker 3: like their image of the Internet and shit, and I'm

3247
02:39:41,080 --> 02:39:44,600
Speaker 3: not that way, you know. I enjoyed Chris Ros's Last

3248
02:39:44,600 --> 02:39:47,480
Speaker 3: stand up special. Chris Rox's Last stand up secially got

3249
02:39:47,560 --> 02:39:51,160
Speaker 3: rape jokes in it. It's got some misogynist comedy, It's

3250
02:39:51,200 --> 02:39:52,840
Speaker 3: got some comedy by hitting.

3251
02:39:52,680 --> 02:39:55,480
Speaker 2: Your kids and shit like that. I don't need you

3252
02:39:56,040 --> 02:39:56,520
Speaker 2: to think of.

3253
02:39:56,560 --> 02:40:00,520
Speaker 3: Me as a good person by what I view. I go,

3254
02:40:00,920 --> 02:40:03,880
Speaker 3: that's problematic, that's fucked up. I understand how you might

3255
02:40:03,959 --> 02:40:06,360
Speaker 3: not think that's funny. I understand how you don't get

3256
02:40:06,400 --> 02:40:09,000
Speaker 3: off on that, and I respect that opinion and I'm

3257
02:40:09,040 --> 02:40:10,800
Speaker 3: not gonna try change it or defend it.

3258
02:40:11,280 --> 02:40:13,199
Speaker 2: I still enjoyed it, and I can't.

3259
02:40:13,280 --> 02:40:17,720
Speaker 3: I won't apologize for finding enjoyment in something. Sorry, you

3260
02:40:17,800 --> 02:40:20,320
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, I can't like, I can't

3261
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:23,240
Speaker 3: take back that I did enjoy this thing. I can't

3262
02:40:23,280 --> 02:40:24,840
Speaker 3: take back that I watched The Walking Dead and it's

3263
02:40:24,879 --> 02:40:27,480
Speaker 3: extremely violent show. I can't take back that I watch

3264
02:40:27,560 --> 02:40:30,280
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones and such. Game of Thrones has all

3265
02:40:30,360 --> 02:40:32,800
Speaker 3: types of abuse towards women. There's no people of color

3266
02:40:32,840 --> 02:40:36,720
Speaker 3: in it. I understand that there are problems with these things,

3267
02:40:36,920 --> 02:40:40,200
Speaker 3: while at the same time being like, I've enjoyed these things,

3268
02:40:40,480 --> 02:40:42,200
Speaker 3: but I feel like a lot of people can't do that.

3269
02:40:42,480 --> 02:40:44,879
Speaker 3: So it's like I enjoyed it, therefore it's perfect. Therefore

3270
02:40:44,879 --> 02:40:47,760
Speaker 3: you may not say anything I like this character. Therefore

3271
02:40:47,840 --> 02:40:50,360
Speaker 3: that character is perfect. Everything they did was right. There

3272
02:40:50,440 --> 02:40:52,959
Speaker 3: was no there was nothing to it to be examined, and.

3273
02:40:53,000 --> 02:40:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, but what fun is the world like that?

3274
02:40:55,959 --> 02:40:56,119
Speaker 5: Right?

3275
02:40:56,280 --> 02:41:00,760
Speaker 4: But also when you're dealing with the Internet, in my

3276
02:41:00,959 --> 02:41:02,200
Speaker 4: opinion is that.

3277
02:41:04,160 --> 02:41:07,120
Speaker 5: People are brands, and once you're really get down to

3278
02:41:07,600 --> 02:41:11,440
Speaker 5: what the people's brands are, you'll understand for some people,

3279
02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:14,280
Speaker 5: regardless if they like it or how they feel, they

3280
02:41:14,440 --> 02:41:16,200
Speaker 5: have to have a certain stand, like, no matter what,

3281
02:41:16,280 --> 02:41:18,240
Speaker 5: they have to have a certain stance because they can't

3282
02:41:18,280 --> 02:41:21,800
Speaker 5: go contrary to their brand. And you are not quote

3283
02:41:21,840 --> 02:41:24,360
Speaker 5: unquote own all the time. And that's not your brand

3284
02:41:24,400 --> 02:41:26,320
Speaker 5: as far as who you are. But when you have

3285
02:41:26,520 --> 02:41:30,520
Speaker 5: people what their brand is, you know, I gotta bang

3286
02:41:30,879 --> 02:41:31,520
Speaker 5: every morning.

3287
02:41:31,600 --> 02:41:33,920
Speaker 4: I gotta be angry every morning. I gotta find out

3288
02:41:34,000 --> 02:41:35,240
Speaker 4: what's the hot take of the day.

3289
02:41:35,760 --> 02:41:38,480
Speaker 5: I gotta talk shit about these white folks or whatever,

3290
02:41:38,959 --> 02:41:41,640
Speaker 5: or fit or whatever you got to do, and they

3291
02:41:41,680 --> 02:41:42,280
Speaker 5: do every day.

3292
02:41:42,320 --> 02:41:43,720
Speaker 2: And I don't do the performative.

3293
02:41:43,879 --> 02:41:48,040
Speaker 3: Like guys, My problematic fave is you know that shit

3294
02:41:48,120 --> 02:41:52,320
Speaker 3: where it's like you're trying to put this fucking prerequisite

3295
02:41:52,440 --> 02:41:54,800
Speaker 3: before you're about to tell somebody you enjoy something.

3296
02:41:55,120 --> 02:41:58,199
Speaker 2: You're a fucking human being. You're not special. Everybody enjoys

3297
02:41:58,200 --> 02:41:59,760
Speaker 2: some shit that ain't perfect because the people who make

3298
02:41:59,800 --> 02:42:03,039
Speaker 2: it ain't perfect. That's okay, you know what I mean.

3299
02:42:03,160 --> 02:42:05,160
Speaker 3: Even if I would have found if Brian Cooler would

3300
02:42:05,160 --> 02:42:07,000
Speaker 3: have got asked about this and been like, well, actually

3301
02:42:07,600 --> 02:42:10,039
Speaker 3: we didn't even mean for that to happen, I still

3302
02:42:10,080 --> 02:42:11,840
Speaker 3: would have been like, well, that's what I got from it,

3303
02:42:12,879 --> 02:42:15,040
Speaker 3: with intention or not. I find that to be the

3304
02:42:15,120 --> 02:42:19,200
Speaker 3: fucking deepest examination of black masculinity I've seen in a

3305
02:42:19,280 --> 02:42:21,400
Speaker 3: long time on the screen, and I'm thankful for it.

3306
02:42:21,440 --> 02:42:24,680
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Ryan Coogler. I would still feel that way,

3307
02:42:25,120 --> 02:42:28,040
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't be walking around like, fuck y'all, y'all

3308
02:42:28,120 --> 02:42:29,000
Speaker 3: don't know what y'all talking about.

3309
02:42:29,000 --> 02:42:30,440
Speaker 2: If he would have said I ain't mean to do it.

3310
02:42:30,640 --> 02:42:32,760
Speaker 3: Hey, he ain't mean to do it, But the fact

3311
02:42:32,800 --> 02:42:36,039
Speaker 3: that he said the opposite, niggas owe me an apologie

3312
02:42:36,120 --> 02:42:38,000
Speaker 3: or something, because the motherfucker like is in there.

3313
02:42:38,400 --> 02:42:40,160
Speaker 2: What the fuck are you even mad at me about? Now?

3314
02:42:40,400 --> 02:42:40,520
Speaker 4: Right?

3315
02:42:40,560 --> 02:42:42,280
Speaker 5: And that's the thing, And you're never gonna be an

3316
02:42:42,280 --> 02:42:45,840
Speaker 5: apology and be similar to brand. Some people are always owned,

3317
02:42:46,040 --> 02:42:48,640
Speaker 5: like they're always owned. You have some people across the internet.

3318
02:42:48,879 --> 02:42:51,840
Speaker 5: You will never know who these people are. They don't

3319
02:42:51,879 --> 02:42:55,120
Speaker 5: share any personal information about themselves, They don't tell you

3320
02:42:55,640 --> 02:42:59,160
Speaker 5: anything about them. Every time you see them is always

3321
02:42:59,680 --> 02:43:03,280
Speaker 5: about whatever their brand is, Like they are always in

3322
02:43:03,720 --> 02:43:04,680
Speaker 5: presentation mode.

3323
02:43:04,720 --> 02:43:06,879
Speaker 4: They're always in representation mode.

3324
02:43:07,280 --> 02:43:12,160
Speaker 5: And because you actually share who you really are, people

3325
02:43:12,200 --> 02:43:14,280
Speaker 5: have a tendency to attack people that are open.

3326
02:43:14,440 --> 02:43:16,640
Speaker 4: People have a tendency to attack people that are real.

3327
02:43:17,000 --> 02:43:19,039
Speaker 5: You know, you do have people that rally and support,

3328
02:43:19,280 --> 02:43:21,440
Speaker 5: but because a lot of people are so fake out there,

3329
02:43:21,760 --> 02:43:24,400
Speaker 5: you know, when people actually do it, does share something

3330
02:43:24,480 --> 02:43:27,520
Speaker 5: and it's true and it's real and it's from the heart, everybody,

3331
02:43:27,560 --> 02:43:28,959
Speaker 5: don't react where that appen.

3332
02:43:29,040 --> 02:43:30,400
Speaker 4: I have dare you come out here and pau your

3333
02:43:30,440 --> 02:43:31,920
Speaker 4: feelings online? What the fuck is from with you?

3334
02:43:32,200 --> 02:43:32,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

3335
02:43:32,360 --> 02:43:36,080
Speaker 3: I said that it was a deep examination and I

3336
02:43:36,360 --> 02:43:39,320
Speaker 3: like that Coogler put it in the movie for us

3337
02:43:39,400 --> 02:43:43,200
Speaker 3: to even like see these two versions of masculinity and

3338
02:43:43,360 --> 02:43:47,240
Speaker 3: slowly deconstruct one until we see how savage and wrong

3339
02:43:47,360 --> 02:43:50,240
Speaker 3: it is. Slowly like get it. Just start off like,

3340
02:43:50,560 --> 02:43:52,680
Speaker 3: look how fucked up this dode is? He started off

3341
02:43:52,720 --> 02:43:55,080
Speaker 3: with a good point. You like, those are the best villains,

3342
02:43:55,720 --> 02:43:57,640
Speaker 3: all the best villains. You end up in the last

3343
02:43:57,680 --> 02:44:01,280
Speaker 3: final frame going oh okay, yeah this Nigga, I go,

3344
02:44:01,600 --> 02:44:02,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

3345
02:44:02,720 --> 02:44:05,280
Speaker 2: That's the best feeling to me, the best writing, isn't.

3346
02:44:05,640 --> 02:44:08,080
Speaker 3: I started off and I'm like, this Nigga's an evil

3347
02:44:08,160 --> 02:44:10,720
Speaker 3: motherfucker like all the other Marvel villains for the most part.

3348
02:44:10,800 --> 02:44:13,279
Speaker 2: In frame one, they're like, I'm evil.

3349
02:44:15,800 --> 02:44:18,520
Speaker 3: Like in this joint, we got a compelling villain that

3350
02:44:18,959 --> 02:44:21,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm down to those fucking third act and

3351
02:44:21,160 --> 02:44:22,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know, dog.

3352
02:44:24,760 --> 02:44:26,800
Speaker 4: Like check Talla might take this hell. He might come

3353
02:44:26,840 --> 02:44:29,560
Speaker 4: back and captain you know, and Avengers, and they might

3354
02:44:29,640 --> 02:44:30,320
Speaker 4: bring him back there.

3355
02:44:30,640 --> 02:44:34,240
Speaker 2: Like when they show the fucking like kid him in

3356
02:44:34,360 --> 02:44:34,840
Speaker 2: the vision.

3357
02:44:35,000 --> 02:44:36,240
Speaker 4: Come on, you see how.

3358
02:44:36,200 --> 02:44:40,200
Speaker 2: Fucking fractured and broken that boy was at that age and.

3359
02:44:40,320 --> 02:44:42,640
Speaker 3: They and I think the lack of the mom in

3360
02:44:42,760 --> 02:44:45,680
Speaker 3: the movie for him was a clear sign of, like,

3361
02:44:46,040 --> 02:44:48,840
Speaker 3: we want to show an absence of femininity in this

3362
02:44:48,959 --> 02:44:52,360
Speaker 3: boy's life at all, so you can see what this

3363
02:44:52,640 --> 02:44:54,920
Speaker 3: lack of this does to a person and what this

3364
02:44:55,080 --> 02:44:58,360
Speaker 3: developed you into, and how this is not a good

3365
02:44:58,480 --> 02:45:01,920
Speaker 3: example of how to follow and so many people need

3366
02:45:02,000 --> 02:45:04,240
Speaker 3: to see that. I'm so glad kids are seeing that shit, right,

3367
02:45:04,400 --> 02:45:07,400
Speaker 3: I'm so glad young women are seeing this other version.

3368
02:45:08,200 --> 02:45:10,800
Speaker 3: We you know, it's almost like you told a fable,

3369
02:45:11,280 --> 02:45:13,680
Speaker 3: you took a story from a comic book and you

3370
02:45:13,800 --> 02:45:16,640
Speaker 3: turned it into like, yo, this is what black cooperation

3371
02:45:16,800 --> 02:45:19,240
Speaker 3: looks like. It's what black unity looks like. And then

3372
02:45:19,320 --> 02:45:21,520
Speaker 3: this shit is just when niggas are running rough shot

3373
02:45:21,600 --> 02:45:23,879
Speaker 3: like black men should be in charge. Whoever can beat

3374
02:45:24,200 --> 02:45:26,400
Speaker 3: everybody ass should be in charge. I should be able

3375
02:45:26,400 --> 02:45:28,080
Speaker 3: to tell everybody what to do and if you don't

3376
02:45:28,160 --> 02:45:30,200
Speaker 3: like to come kick my ass. We see that all

3377
02:45:30,240 --> 02:45:33,320
Speaker 3: the time on social media and stuffa, but here's a

3378
02:45:33,400 --> 02:45:36,160
Speaker 3: display on the screen. It was just so fucking It

3379
02:45:36,240 --> 02:45:38,040
Speaker 3: was just so fucking dude deep. Like I said, I

3380
02:45:38,200 --> 02:45:44,160
Speaker 3: feel you know, to me, these people that were so

3381
02:45:44,440 --> 02:45:46,440
Speaker 3: like trying to shut me down for even talking about

3382
02:45:46,480 --> 02:45:49,280
Speaker 3: this no different from the motherfuckers that was like you

3383
02:45:49,400 --> 02:45:51,280
Speaker 3: cried in the movie and harassed me that night too.

3384
02:45:51,600 --> 02:45:53,160
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck at you're on the left now.

3385
02:45:53,640 --> 02:45:55,840
Speaker 3: You couldn't let me fucking discuss how I fell about

3386
02:45:55,840 --> 02:45:58,000
Speaker 3: the movie without trying to chastise me about the shit.

3387
02:45:58,520 --> 02:46:03,440
Speaker 3: So I feel like that shit was super good, super deep.

3388
02:46:03,560 --> 02:46:05,440
Speaker 3: I can't I'll probably gonna see it in the theater again,

3389
02:46:06,000 --> 02:46:09,400
Speaker 3: like it's that fucking good, and I'm gonna get it

3390
02:46:09,440 --> 02:46:11,800
Speaker 3: on Blu Ray and all that shit. Yeah, I'm and

3391
02:46:11,800 --> 02:46:13,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk about this movie for years and I'm

3392
02:46:13,720 --> 02:46:16,119
Speaker 3: gonna treat it like the Magnum opens that it fucking

3393
02:46:16,360 --> 02:46:18,920
Speaker 3: is because it deserves that, either deserves the.

3394
02:46:18,959 --> 02:46:20,160
Speaker 2: Praise or it don't.

3395
02:46:20,360 --> 02:46:22,760
Speaker 3: But don't fucking tell me it's just that simple when

3396
02:46:22,840 --> 02:46:24,880
Speaker 3: it's not, you know what I mean, Like, if you

3397
02:46:25,000 --> 02:46:26,800
Speaker 3: want to keep it that simple, you can. I'm not

3398
02:46:26,840 --> 02:46:29,520
Speaker 3: gonna tell you what to do. I didn't happen. Nobody's

3399
02:46:29,520 --> 02:46:30,840
Speaker 3: mentioned talking about this movie, and.

3400
02:46:30,840 --> 02:46:33,200
Speaker 4: See that's the thing you mind your business. It's like

3401
02:46:33,360 --> 02:46:35,400
Speaker 4: they come at you instead of just letting you be

3402
02:46:35,600 --> 02:46:36,800
Speaker 4: because that's the thing you.

3403
02:46:36,879 --> 02:46:39,520
Speaker 5: I mean, we let other people be y'all love shit that.

3404
02:46:39,600 --> 02:46:41,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, that's some bullshit. But what I don't do

3405
02:46:41,640 --> 02:46:43,600
Speaker 5: is hopping your timeline and be like, fuck that show.

3406
02:46:44,120 --> 02:46:45,360
Speaker 5: I just let y'all be happy.

3407
02:46:45,680 --> 02:46:49,040
Speaker 3: Some hit told me fucking because I was like, he

3408
02:46:49,120 --> 02:46:53,800
Speaker 3: had this depth and nuanced and he showed how kill

3409
02:46:53,920 --> 02:46:55,640
Speaker 3: Manger was so brutal.

3410
02:46:56,800 --> 02:46:58,520
Speaker 2: Eventually because of how he treated.

3411
02:46:58,360 --> 02:47:01,560
Speaker 3: Women as shit and like like it was a there's

3412
02:47:01,560 --> 02:47:03,360
Speaker 3: a level to the fact that I'm about to kill

3413
02:47:03,360 --> 02:47:06,400
Speaker 3: a sixteen year old girl, right that if you don't

3414
02:47:06,440 --> 02:47:08,760
Speaker 3: see that as any different, I don't know what to

3415
02:47:08,840 --> 02:47:11,760
Speaker 3: tell you, because he has a he doesn't see it

3416
02:47:11,800 --> 02:47:14,400
Speaker 3: as a difference, where As the audience are supposed to

3417
02:47:14,440 --> 02:47:17,240
Speaker 3: be like this nigga's out of control, right, if you

3418
02:47:17,400 --> 02:47:20,160
Speaker 3: don't have that in you, something up with you. You know,

3419
02:47:20,240 --> 02:47:22,080
Speaker 3: if you're just like, well, it's all the same to me, well,

3420
02:47:22,160 --> 02:47:24,040
Speaker 3: niggas it's to me, it's not all the same.

3421
02:47:24,120 --> 02:47:25,160
Speaker 2: And I'll I'll be that.

3422
02:47:25,879 --> 02:47:27,840
Speaker 3: But that was supposed to be a moment that made

3423
02:47:28,400 --> 02:47:31,320
Speaker 3: a fucking difference. We're supposed to we're supposed to be like, yo,

3424
02:47:32,000 --> 02:47:33,160
Speaker 3: this dude needs to.

3425
02:47:33,400 --> 02:47:36,760
Speaker 5: Die right and and the thing and you make me

3426
02:47:36,840 --> 02:47:39,920
Speaker 5: think about it, the thing about him trying to kill

3427
02:47:39,959 --> 02:47:41,959
Speaker 5: that sister. Take it our way back to the first

3428
02:47:42,080 --> 02:47:44,560
Speaker 5: act when T'Challa was about to fuck that little boy off,

3429
02:47:44,560 --> 02:47:46,200
Speaker 5: and she was like, dowg, he's a kid.

3430
02:47:46,560 --> 02:47:47,480
Speaker 2: What stopped him from.

3431
02:47:47,400 --> 02:47:50,240
Speaker 3: Beating up that little fucking up that little that kid woman,

3432
02:47:50,440 --> 02:47:53,760
Speaker 3: the kid she said he was. He was taking prisoners,

3433
02:47:53,840 --> 02:47:56,640
Speaker 3: just like we were like, it's the levels here are

3434
02:47:56,840 --> 02:47:59,680
Speaker 3: they're here for examination. If you want to come join me,

3435
02:48:00,720 --> 02:48:02,039
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, If you want to get

3436
02:48:02,080 --> 02:48:05,160
Speaker 3: on that level, it's right there. But if you just

3437
02:48:05,320 --> 02:48:08,560
Speaker 3: want to be there to say fuck it, it don't

3438
02:48:08,600 --> 02:48:11,120
Speaker 3: matter to me to have a good time. Just don't

3439
02:48:11,160 --> 02:48:14,720
Speaker 3: come get mad at me for having the fucking fortitude

3440
02:48:14,800 --> 02:48:17,680
Speaker 3: to go a little deeper to be like. I enjoyed

3441
02:48:17,720 --> 02:48:19,480
Speaker 3: it on that level, and I enjoyed it on another

3442
02:48:19,560 --> 02:48:21,760
Speaker 3: level too. It's the best Marvel movie they ever made,

3443
02:48:21,800 --> 02:48:22,360
Speaker 3: in my opinion.

3444
02:48:22,400 --> 02:48:24,160
Speaker 2: It is so to me.

3445
02:48:24,360 --> 02:48:26,640
Speaker 3: I'm willing to talk about it deeper than that, the

3446
02:48:26,720 --> 02:48:29,000
Speaker 3: same way that I talked about fucking civil war And

3447
02:48:29,040 --> 02:48:30,199
Speaker 3: it's a kovie, o course.

3448
02:48:29,959 --> 02:48:32,520
Speaker 2: And what does that mean for unilateral power? International?

3449
02:48:33,040 --> 02:48:36,000
Speaker 3: Like I talked about that shit on Twitter, motherfuckers, It's

3450
02:48:36,040 --> 02:48:38,600
Speaker 3: just a comic book movie. Stop talking about this. What

3451
02:48:38,760 --> 02:48:41,520
Speaker 3: you mean Captain America did? Like fuck out of my face.

3452
02:48:41,600 --> 02:48:41,720
Speaker 4: Man.

3453
02:48:41,879 --> 02:48:43,200
Speaker 2: I'm talking about it cause it's good.

3454
02:48:43,440 --> 02:48:46,920
Speaker 5: And what frustrates me people go to is just the

3455
02:48:47,040 --> 02:48:51,720
Speaker 5: movie to dismiss shit. And it's fucking frustrating because people

3456
02:48:51,760 --> 02:48:54,280
Speaker 5: don't realize these are the same taxes as used when

3457
02:48:54,400 --> 02:48:57,520
Speaker 5: we're trying to have nuanced conversations about other shit. When

3458
02:48:57,560 --> 02:48:59,920
Speaker 5: you out here crying about another black man dying in

3459
02:49:00,080 --> 02:49:03,280
Speaker 5: the street, people come at you using the same tactic.

3460
02:49:03,360 --> 02:49:06,640
Speaker 5: You've got to understand that these tactics mean things to people,

3461
02:49:06,920 --> 02:49:08,000
Speaker 5: and you can't do it.

3462
02:49:08,200 --> 02:49:10,320
Speaker 4: And use it on other people and act like you

3463
02:49:10,600 --> 02:49:12,400
Speaker 4: doing it is different. Yeah.

3464
02:49:12,560 --> 02:49:14,520
Speaker 3: So anyway, man, I wanted to get that off my

3465
02:49:14,680 --> 02:49:18,080
Speaker 3: chest on the show, you know, in a place where

3466
02:49:18,120 --> 02:49:20,760
Speaker 3: we could talk about spoilers and stuff and hopeful of

3467
02:49:20,760 --> 02:49:22,440
Speaker 3: people enjoy it, because I really feel like it's a

3468
02:49:22,560 --> 02:49:25,360
Speaker 3: prescient point, and I think people are doing a movie

3469
02:49:25,400 --> 02:49:27,920
Speaker 3: at this service by feeling like they can't discuss that,

3470
02:49:28,280 --> 02:49:30,720
Speaker 3: or discussing it as a detriment to the movie, when

3471
02:49:30,760 --> 02:49:32,000
Speaker 3: it's the exact opposite of that.

3472
02:49:32,200 --> 02:49:32,520
Speaker 2: Correct.

3473
02:49:32,560 --> 02:49:34,480
Speaker 3: But I want to at least express my point in

3474
02:49:34,520 --> 02:49:37,640
Speaker 3: a place where I could talk to people that at

3475
02:49:37,720 --> 02:49:41,320
Speaker 3: least understand, because you know, social media is designed to

3476
02:49:41,440 --> 02:49:43,800
Speaker 3: kind of also be taken out of context and argue,

3477
02:49:43,879 --> 02:49:46,080
Speaker 3: and people come at it with I'm gonna make this

3478
02:49:46,200 --> 02:49:49,520
Speaker 3: a debate when you're not trying to debate it, And

3479
02:49:50,360 --> 02:49:53,840
Speaker 3: I wanted to express the nuance at this point because

3480
02:49:54,800 --> 02:49:57,000
Speaker 3: what will happen is people will hear this and then

3481
02:49:57,040 --> 02:49:59,120
Speaker 3: come at me and go, so you think he targeted

3482
02:49:59,120 --> 02:50:01,880
Speaker 3: black women, So you think he only hit black women,

3483
02:50:01,920 --> 02:50:04,600
Speaker 3: he only killed black women. I'm like, no, he just

3484
02:50:04,680 --> 02:50:08,160
Speaker 3: didn't make an exception, And that in itself is the point.

3485
02:50:09,400 --> 02:50:11,920
Speaker 3: You know, he had no room for anything, you know

3486
02:50:12,240 --> 02:50:13,760
Speaker 3: that that he like for anybody.

3487
02:50:13,879 --> 02:50:14,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't be clean.

3488
02:50:15,120 --> 02:50:17,600
Speaker 2: He's not an anti hero. He's a villain, and that's okay.

3489
02:50:18,280 --> 02:50:21,040
Speaker 3: But it used to be a time where you didn't

3490
02:50:21,080 --> 02:50:24,680
Speaker 3: have to worry about not about people examining your statement

3491
02:50:24,760 --> 02:50:25,959
Speaker 3: about I like this villain.

3492
02:50:26,440 --> 02:50:28,320
Speaker 2: Hey, I got a Tony Montannor poster at my house.

3493
02:50:28,400 --> 02:50:30,280
Speaker 3: Nobody walks in your house and goes so you got

3494
02:50:30,400 --> 02:50:33,400
Speaker 3: a poster of a dude that is a drug addict,

3495
02:50:33,480 --> 02:50:36,040
Speaker 3: abuser of his wife and kill people.

3496
02:50:36,400 --> 02:50:39,800
Speaker 2: Because it just was a different time, face post on.

3497
02:50:41,120 --> 02:50:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a different time, you know, but things

3498
02:50:44,680 --> 02:50:48,280
Speaker 3: have changed and accordingly now you can hear the other

3499
02:50:48,400 --> 02:50:50,880
Speaker 3: side of that. Just ignore it if you don't like it, right,

3500
02:50:51,120 --> 02:50:53,160
Speaker 3: which is flying because I didn't tell you not to

3501
02:50:53,320 --> 02:50:55,840
Speaker 3: like that, nigga, you know what I mean. I still

3502
02:50:55,920 --> 02:50:57,840
Speaker 3: think it's one of the greatest portrayals of a villain

3503
02:50:57,879 --> 02:50:58,320
Speaker 3: on the screen.

3504
02:50:58,520 --> 02:51:02,640
Speaker 2: I don't like. I don't care. Joker was blowing up hospitals, y'all.

3505
02:51:02,720 --> 02:51:04,800
Speaker 2: Niggas still got Joker shirts. No one's mad.

3506
02:51:05,440 --> 02:51:07,560
Speaker 3: Stop trying to bend the world to your fucking will

3507
02:51:07,600 --> 02:51:09,600
Speaker 3: and just be like, Okay, people gonna feel that way.

3508
02:51:10,200 --> 02:51:12,000
Speaker 3: They just some people gonna see my shirt and get

3509
02:51:12,200 --> 02:51:15,480
Speaker 3: fucking mad. I don't It's okay. I guarantee some of

3510
02:51:15,520 --> 02:51:17,320
Speaker 3: these shirt. This shirt right here, I bought to make

3511
02:51:17,360 --> 02:51:20,879
Speaker 3: people mad Oprah twenty twenty because I know nigga's gonna

3512
02:51:20,879 --> 02:51:23,520
Speaker 3: be like, oh God, not hear not Selari. We need

3513
02:51:23,520 --> 02:51:25,360
Speaker 3: to get away from this. I don't care that these

3514
02:51:25,440 --> 02:51:27,080
Speaker 3: niggas are mad. Take the joker, don't.

3515
02:51:27,720 --> 02:51:30,080
Speaker 2: It's that simple. When I get my kill Marnga's shirt,

3516
02:51:30,200 --> 02:51:31,680
Speaker 2: Take the joker don't. It's fine.

3517
02:51:31,720 --> 02:51:33,800
Speaker 3: But I will also sit down with you and discuss

3518
02:51:34,280 --> 02:51:38,720
Speaker 3: how his version of masculinity. The statement that Coogler made,

3519
02:51:38,840 --> 02:51:40,880
Speaker 3: and the crew and the production the right staff made

3520
02:51:41,400 --> 02:51:43,640
Speaker 3: is one of the greatest statements on toxic masculinity we're

3521
02:51:43,640 --> 02:51:45,439
Speaker 3: gonna ever have because it's so subversive.

3522
02:51:46,440 --> 02:51:48,720
Speaker 2: But if you don't want to have that discussion, then

3523
02:51:48,840 --> 02:51:51,160
Speaker 2: just kill Manga was right. Enjoy the shirt. I ain't

3524
02:51:51,200 --> 02:51:52,000
Speaker 2: mad at you. I ain't.

3525
02:51:52,120 --> 02:51:54,400
Speaker 4: That's the thing. We not mad.

3526
02:51:54,560 --> 02:51:56,039
Speaker 5: It's just for the fact that a lot of people

3527
02:51:56,120 --> 02:51:58,960
Speaker 5: get wrapped up in their own emotions and for the defendant,

3528
02:51:58,959 --> 02:52:00,680
Speaker 5: and a lot of times when people come to this conversation,

3529
02:52:00,959 --> 02:52:03,840
Speaker 5: they come with their own agendas, their hurt, their own pain,

3530
02:52:04,120 --> 02:52:06,280
Speaker 5: They come with all this other stuff wrapped up and

3531
02:52:06,400 --> 02:52:08,840
Speaker 5: want you to explain it, quote unquote to them.

3532
02:52:09,200 --> 02:52:10,400
Speaker 4: You're like, that's that's not my job.

3533
02:52:10,520 --> 02:52:13,320
Speaker 3: Though I'm not making you think ignore me. I didn't

3534
02:52:14,440 --> 02:52:16,840
Speaker 3: like I said, don't take my words out of context.

3535
02:52:17,560 --> 02:52:19,480
Speaker 3: I have a nuanced point. You can hear it if

3536
02:52:19,520 --> 02:52:21,280
Speaker 3: you want to, but you probably don't want to hear it,

3537
02:52:21,280 --> 02:52:22,039
Speaker 3: which is why you're trying to.

3538
02:52:22,040 --> 02:52:22,560
Speaker 2: Shut me down.

3539
02:52:22,840 --> 02:52:24,880
Speaker 3: Leave me the fuck alone then, because I'm gonna keep talking.

3540
02:52:24,879 --> 02:52:26,000
Speaker 3: Ain't shit you can do about it.

3541
02:52:26,640 --> 02:52:29,640
Speaker 2: I changed my name on Twitter and block you because

3542
02:52:29,640 --> 02:52:31,240
Speaker 2: I will block the fuck out of your ass. I

3543
02:52:31,280 --> 02:52:33,960
Speaker 2: don't care. I've been blocking people all day, you know

3544
02:52:33,959 --> 02:52:35,880
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, just join the club. It's a

3545
02:52:36,040 --> 02:52:36,400
Speaker 2: bunch of you.

3546
02:52:36,480 --> 02:52:40,320
Speaker 3: Motherfucker's mad. So all right, man, we'll be back tomorrow.

3547
02:52:40,440 --> 02:52:41,480
Speaker 3: This is a very late edition.

3548
02:52:42,240 --> 02:52:44,840
Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow. Thank you so much for listening

3549
02:52:45,800 --> 02:52:49,400
Speaker 2: on today. Right oh man? Three hours? Wow? All right,

3550
02:52:49,480 --> 02:52:51,200
Speaker 2: until next time. I love you. I love you too.

3551
02:52:51,400 --> 02:52:51,440
Speaker 4: W