1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian hit the push button was a push button 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: start vehicle, and then went click click click, And you 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: say to yourself, g that's a bad battery. But can 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: you prove it and do emorrow? The car Doctor. You 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: know what, this may be the first mechanical repair other 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: than breaks tires, et cetera. Isn't that great? Hasn't needed? 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: That's these cars are just getting better, men, they really are. 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian, the Car Doctor, 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 11 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five five 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: six and now running. Hey, thanks stopping by the garage today. 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Let's sell kicked the garage doors wide open and get 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: started right away. Let's go over and talk to Aggie 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: and Florida oh three Lincoln Town car and see what's 18 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: going on here. Aggie. Welcome to the Car Doctor. How 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: can I help? Thank you for taking my call. You're 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: welcome on the front door driver side. I took the 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: panel off to fix the handle, okay, and everything was 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: working prior to then I put it back together. The 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: only thing that was working after that was the power windows, 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: not the seats, the mirrors, the trunk button. The trunk 25 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't open. I took it off again to check if 26 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: I missed the connector, but all the connections seemed tight. 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: Put it back nothing, just the power windows. Did you 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: disconnect the driver's door switch from the harness when you 29 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: pulled the panel off or did you just work around? 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Did you leave it connected? No? No, I unhooked all 31 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: connect Okay, UM, silly question, but I've seen this before. 32 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: You sure you've got the connectors back on the right 33 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: location on the switch itself. I double checked, um, I 34 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: looked at it. If I could possibly put him back 35 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: in the locally, it looked like a little different on 36 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 1: each check. They they should be. But I've seen if 37 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: with with a little lack of looking and doesn't I'm 38 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: trying to think of a delicate way to say its hoggy. 39 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: But you know, with a little lack of looking and um, 40 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: some persistence, you could actually do it wrong. I've I've 41 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: seen it before. I'm not saying it's common. I'm not 42 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: saying it's easy, but I have seen it. Short of that, 43 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: I would treat it as if everything is connected properly 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: and you've verified that, then I would tell you if 45 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: somebody's got to go through powers and grounds, do you 46 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: have power this to the at least start with the doorlocks. 47 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: Do you have power to the doorlocks? I believe it's 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: fuse twenty nine and the junction box behind the left 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: side of the dash, you know, is the fuse good? 50 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: Could you have touched something and caused the fuse failure 51 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: and doesn't check that fuse. I did pull that fuse 52 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: out and checked it, and it was weird. I pulled 53 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: it out. When I put it back the light went 54 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: on the door and then then it then it went 55 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: off again. Was the fuse blown? No, if you pull 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: the fuse out again, will the like go back on 57 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: and off? Yes? I pulled it out and put it 58 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: back in. It went on and it shut it up, 59 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't go on again. It was crazy. Okay, well, 60 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: I've got to think that's telling me that you've got 61 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: something wiring wise inside the door disconnected. Something in the 62 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: door is connected wrong. Now short of that, all right, 63 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: Short of that, just because what if you always got 64 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: to play. What if when you're fixing cars, what if 65 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: it was your turn when you opened the door. The 66 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: wiring in the door pillar, you know, where the wires 67 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: come out between the body and the door itself. That 68 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: that that that package of wiring there as you know, 69 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: over over time as the door opens and closes all 70 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: these years, it's seventeen years old, those wires can break. 71 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: And you know, especially if you've had the door panel off, 72 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: if you tugged on the harness in any way without 73 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: realizing it, and you know, did you break any of 74 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: the wiring in that in the door pillar itself, and 75 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: that's causing the circuits not to respond. I don't believe so, 76 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: because the covering on that, that rubber covering, that's not well, 77 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with it. I've had it, Olga, 78 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: I've I've had it where I've I usually have to 79 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: split that boot open. I will, I will, I will 80 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: slice that boot neat and clean with a razor blade 81 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: on an older vehicle, just because I can't get a 82 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: replacement boot. And then I have a silicone waterproof tape 83 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: that I will, you know, tape around the boot and 84 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: it kind of melts into the folds of the rubber 85 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: and provides a permanent seal. So don't don't take that 86 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: the boot is intact as a saw. Mind that you 87 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: know the wiring isn't broken underneath the way I would 88 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: question it is. I would get a vaultmeter, get a 89 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: wiring diagram, go to each individual component you're trying to diagnose, 90 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: Like in the case of the power door locks. I 91 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: know it's a black white wire that leads up to 92 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: the switch. I would I would go up to that 93 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: black white Is it hot at the at the switch itself? 94 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: And then do you have ground at the switch? Did 95 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: you lose grounds for some reason? Um, don't look, you 96 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: know it's it's It's nice and easy to say, Hey, 97 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: I want to make sure it's just one thing that 98 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: caused the entire problem, and I guess that's you know, 99 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: we always hope for the best, right, but don't don't 100 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: rule out you don't have more than one thing wrong, 101 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 1: especially if everything was really working prior to you taking 102 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: it apart. You know, well, listen, you know you don't know. 103 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: I had a I talked about it last hour. I 104 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: had a customer this week. I haven't seen her in 105 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: a while, the cooling fan on her Mustang broke and 106 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: she didn't realize it, but all summer long she didn't 107 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: have low speed cooling fan. The low speed portion didn't work. 108 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: When the high speed came on, it sounded like an 109 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: animal was trapped underneath the wheels. It was screeching so bad. 110 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: So you know, there's no rule that the fines or 111 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: says one problem, one vehicle at a time. I've I've 112 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: seen multiple things happen on more than one occasion, and 113 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: you know you've got to, you know, break that vehicle down. 114 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: If you're gonna take the power doorlock circuit out by itself, 115 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: how would you fix it if you took it out 116 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: and put it on the bench. What would you want 117 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: to make sure? Power? Ground switch actuators break it down 118 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: on the car? You know? Do you have power to 119 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: the switch? Yes? Or no? You do? Why doesn't it work? 120 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: You know? Is it going to the right switch? Is 121 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: it on the right pin? Do you have ground? Okay? 122 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: And then work We're working out from there, one step 123 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: at a time. Those four connectors that go to the 124 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: piece on the arm risk they're they're color coded. Is 125 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: there I don't have anything on it. I try to 126 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: look it up to see what the sequence was on 127 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: the but I couldn't know what I don't I've never 128 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: seen it that way. What will happen is what I'll 129 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: do is I'll verify. I do two things. I verify 130 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: that the colored wire is going to the right component. 131 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: So I'll go to the door like, I'll go to 132 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: the doorlock switch and pin it out. I'll look and 133 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: I'll see, you know, there's there's typically four wires on 134 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: it or five wires. You know, do I have do 135 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: I have black? Do I have the pink like green? 136 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: Do I have the light, green, violet? Whatever the colors are? 137 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: And you know, is that what's coming to the switch. Yes, okay, 138 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: then that's the switch. This is the wiring connector for 139 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: the switch, and then so on. Then work my way backwards. 140 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: The other way is or the other thing to do 141 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: is sometimes I'm not saying every time, but sometimes those 142 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: connectors are notched so that you can't put them on wrong. 143 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: Somehow we find a way. Uh you know, listen, you 144 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: gotta remember the average the the average guy on the 145 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: assembly line has under two minutes to put his component together. 146 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: So it's it's got to be done quickly. It's got 147 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: to be done a efficiently as the cars moving. So 148 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, bang, put the connector on bank, put the 149 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: connector on bank, put the connector on and they did 150 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: thousands of them and it was right. There's got to 151 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: be an easy way to do it. There's you know, 152 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: there's got to be some kind of identification to have there. 153 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: So but look at look at the wire colors per switch. 154 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna need a wiring diagram, which you should have 155 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: anyway at this point, and take it through from there, 156 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: and then I'll do what you said, check the the hotline, 157 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: make sure the juice coming through right and right. And 158 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: what you could do is you could put your meter 159 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: on the hot leg of the doorlock circuit and find 160 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: the ground leg of the doorlock circuit and use that 161 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: for your ground. That way, you're checking to see, you know, 162 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: do you have power and ground at the same time. 163 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: If you don't find an alternate ground, if you still 164 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: have no power, then you know it's power. If you 165 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: do have power, then then it's ground. And the reason 166 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: I say it like that, don't assume just because you 167 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: have power for a circuit, we need two things to work, right, 168 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: We need a power, we need a ground side. We 169 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: want to check both and you can do it the 170 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: other way around two. But I'm just saying you want 171 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: to make sure that you have power and ground. Don't 172 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: fall into the trap Levell. I had power, I moved 173 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: on and then find out the ground wire is broken 174 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: somewhere as well. Do all those things. If you need more, Augie, 175 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm here. Give us a shout back at eight zero 176 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: zero round eating the car Doctor at yours and everybody 177 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: else's service. I'll be back right after this time. Right 178 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: it on the wall, so you don't forget to call 179 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: for a car advice. Done right? Eight five five five 180 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Now back to Rob. Hey, let's 181 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: get over to Robin, Tennessee Explorer. Rob. Welcome to the 182 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: car Doctor. How can I help? Yes? Uh, the seal 183 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: age probably about a year ago. When I would, you know, 184 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: feel the tank completely, it would only indicate like a 185 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: three fourth full. And then once I use the fourth 186 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: of the tank, then it's you know, aquidator that it's 187 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: been progressively getting worse and now it's maybe like two thirds. 188 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: It indicates like two thirds fool when I feel it 189 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: all the way up. But once it burns out one 190 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: third of the tank, then it's accurate. SMA gets progressively 191 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: getting worse, but it's it's accurate to the you know, 192 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: the local there right when it gets when it gets 193 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: on the other side of the scale. So this is 194 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: a sliding resistance you know, sending unit like so many 195 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: when when you're you know, at empty, it reads about 196 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: twenty two moments and when it's full it reads a 197 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: hundred and forty five. If we're going to do a 198 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: resistance check, but what you could do is you could 199 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: disconnect the fuel pumps uh and sending you a connector 200 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a yellow white wire and a 201 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: black yellow all right, you want to check the resistance 202 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: between those two. If the tank is closer to empty, 203 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: it should read down low, you know it's if it's downlow, 204 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: it should read anywhere in fifteen to thirty ohms. If 205 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: the tanks filled to the brim, that reading is probably 206 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: going to be over closer to the one six mark um, 207 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: you know. So if we if we look at it 208 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: at the high end, if you want to, you know, 209 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: fill it up because that seems to be where you're 210 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: having the problem, and then go do the reading that 211 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: would make that would make sense. You want reading and 212 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: still reading one sixt read let's selly what one or something? Yeah, 213 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: if you're seeing when it's when it's full, it's reading half. 214 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: Let's say, um, you know where where where is it 215 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: when it's when the tank is full? Where does it 216 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: read half gage? A little over half gage? Right? Yeah? 217 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: Right now it's slightly over half. Yeah, but it's but 218 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: it's but it's accurate from that point right. My My 219 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: guess is it'll read it'll read seventy five you know, 220 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: sms when you're when you're at that halfway point, and 221 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: then it'll it'll progressively go down and read correctly. Um, 222 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: that's common. Yeah, it's it's more common for sending units 223 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: and stuck floats. Uh, you know, things like that to occur, 224 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: gauge clusters themselves. I mean it happens, not as common. 225 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: I would start with testing descending unit and then if 226 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: you're lucky enough or you can find the potentialometer on 227 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: eBay and you want to buy a potentiometer set at 228 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: the twenty two homes, hook it up to the circuit. 229 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: Gage should read zero, said it A D forty five 230 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: gage should read full set it to eight oms. It 231 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: should read somewhere in the middle. If if, if, if 232 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: you can prove that the wiring is good, the circuits good, 233 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, you you know, you your you know, your 234 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: problem is not at that, and then you gotta go 235 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: the other way and lower the tank because we don't 236 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: drop tanks. When you lower the tank, there's no low 237 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: access from the inside. It has have to remove the 238 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: tank to get to it. Yeah, there is if you 239 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: want to get a whole saw and cut a hole 240 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: through the floor. But you know, yeah, I don't think so. 241 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: And as I as I say to Danny all the 242 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: time in the shop, we don't drop anything. We lower things, 243 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: you know. Um, And I'm willing to bet twenty years 244 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: old it's probably got a fair amount of miles on it. 245 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: You might as well just do a point. Yeah, you 246 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: might as well do a pump and ascending in it 247 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: all together and and get it over with, because it's 248 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: just it's the pain of lowering the tank is going 249 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: to be too much that at least this way, when 250 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: you're done, you're done, um, you know, and you can 251 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: just rest. I'll check the resistance before yeah, absolutely absolutely, 252 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: you know. And if you're looking for if you're looking 253 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: for a decent part, make sure Gueto orilly Otto dot com. 254 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've got an Orallyoto parts near you. And uh, 255 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: you know, see what they've gotten. Uh, you know, get 256 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: yourself something from them, because then then they're a good 257 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: source for technical information. And you know, make sure you 258 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: get a fuel filter while you're down there too. You know, 259 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: we always want to do filters and pumps together, even 260 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: though this starts out as a sending unit. If that's 261 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: what it is, you know, kind of a problem like 262 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: does it have like a suck filter in it? It 263 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: will have it. It will have a sock on the 264 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: end of the pick up tube. But ninety eight should 265 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: still have a filter that's in this most god awful 266 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: horrible place. So why you've got everything apart, you might 267 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: as well do it once and get it over with. 268 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: And uh, you know it's it's just times it has 269 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: as it has a filter along the frame rail but 270 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have another one inside the tank and that will 271 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: be on a and and that's and that's why you 272 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: want to that's why you want to buy the whole 273 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: pump and center together because everything will be together as 274 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: an assembly. Okay, you know, it'll just be all one piece. 275 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Take it out, put it in, just make sure the 276 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: fuel pump and it should comes with a new rubber 277 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: row ring or a new gasket for the top, for 278 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: the lock plate. And then when you take the tank down, 279 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: before you open it up and take the tip pump out. 280 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: And you may want to do this beforehand, or just 281 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: have it on hand just in case. You know, you're 282 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: gonna take an airgun and blow the crut away from 283 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: the lock ring before you, you know, take the pump out. 284 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: You may need a new lock ring. You know, if 285 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: this was New Jersey, I'll talk about it like it's 286 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: New Jersey. If it's New Jersey, Brother, the lock ring 287 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: corroded and it's gonna crumble when we go to take 288 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: it apart, So we're gonna put a new lock ring 289 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: in it. Two. You know, this one's been in the 290 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: South and the tennesse Tennessee is a different world. You know. Yeah, 291 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you get out of the rust 292 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: belt states. I'll never forget. You know. I've got a 293 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: seventy two Monty Carlo that spent its life in Texas, 294 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm still kind of tinkering with it, 295 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: and it was a running car, but I just like 296 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: the tinker and you know, before I put it out 297 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: on the road, and you know when I tell you, 298 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: we took the exhaust off, walked up to the exhaust 299 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: manifold nuts and bolts where the pipes, the head pipes 300 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: met the manifolds, took the nuts off like it was 301 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: just rolled off the truck. It was unbelievable. Um, just 302 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: just just absolutely crazy. You know, yeah, they really do. 303 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: It's it's a pain to get him here, and it 304 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: cost me a few bucks. But in the long run, 305 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: the lack of rust on this vehicle was staggering, you know, 306 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: to the point that the brake lines were still silver, 307 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: the nuts were analyzed gold. Everything looked like it just 308 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: came out of the show room fifty years ago. And 309 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: it's just amazing how we buy these cars up here 310 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: in the rust Belts and we just we just object 311 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: them to the winters that we subject them to. It's 312 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: just horrible, just horrible. So don't don't don't grab it 313 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: in the winter. Well, well the Monte Carlo won't be 314 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: but well although it might be a kind of if 315 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: it's if it's gonna be, what I think it is 316 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: just a nice cruiser all, I'll just enjoy it for that. So, 317 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: but that's how I would attack your explore problem, right sir. Okay, 318 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: thank you, You're very welcome. You stay safe. Um yeah, 319 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: just you know, let's let's do some testing before we 320 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: just start replacing parts, and you know, just just you know, 321 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: attack it like that. Um, speaking of attacking things and 322 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: speaking of just doing some things that makes sense and 323 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, common sense. Just some quick break tips. I 324 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: want to get this out there. The folks over a 325 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: Good Year Breaks dot Com have come up with a 326 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: tent tips for a successful break job. And I like 327 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: what they say here because they talk about things from 328 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: a basic perspective. And I'd be willing to bet that 329 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: this press releases up on their website, Good Year Breaks 330 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: dot Com. You know, the first thing to talk about is, yeah, 331 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: get the right parts from the start when you're buying breaks. 332 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: And if you're going to Good Year Breaks dot Com 333 00:16:58,680 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: to buy your brakes, all you have to do is 334 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: entering the vehicles, then the serial number or your license 335 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: number to see what break parts you know match and 336 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: meet your vehicle. So that's kind of a handy feature 337 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: if they're Good your Brakes dot Com. You know, obviously 338 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: it's important to be safe. You know, I can't stand 339 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: these YouTube videos. I see if people with you're doing 340 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: break repair and the car is up on a log 341 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: a milk crate and you know, maybe you know, half 342 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: a garbage can and that's their idea of a jackstand. 343 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: I let's be safe. We've got this mass sitting above us, 344 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: all right. And I say that sort of tongue in cheek, 345 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: but I've seen some pretty stupid things on YouTube. Lubrication 346 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: when you're changing breaks, all right, this is tip number 347 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: three from the folks at Good your Brakes. You know, 348 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: when you're changing breaks, the slides have to be lubricated, 349 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: The guide pins have to be lubricated, the caliber bolts 350 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: have to be lubricated because the brake pads have to 351 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: move now. And this is a mind blower. This one 352 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: will really get you. You won't see lubrication on brake 353 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: pads from the vehicle manufacturers brand new. Do you know 354 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: why they don't lubricate breaks from a new car on 355 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: a new car? You don't come back in the car 356 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: doctor is gonna tell you why. I want they give 357 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: you the answer. You'll just it's just mind boggling. But 358 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: the answer when the car doctor returns zero zero, don't 359 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: go away on back. Right after this the car doctor 360 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: at zero nine zero zero. So if you stayed with 361 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: us during the break, I can give you the answer. 362 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: So why do new cars not have lubrication on brake pads, slides, 363 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: caliper pins and guides. The answer simple, break reece or 364 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: silicon grease gives off an aromatic and the manufacturers have 365 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: problems or so they claim that the paint will be 366 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: affected by the aromatics. And you'll actually see some car 367 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: companies where they do grease break components. They'll paint the 368 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: body separately and then marry the two halves together, the 369 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: chassis and the body on on separate assembly lines of 370 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: bringing them together later on after the assemblies have been 371 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: made together. But that's why you generally don't see lubrication 372 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: on break components, and you know, don't take it as 373 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: a sign that if it doesn't have it, it it doesn't 374 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: need it. It just means that that manufactured into it. 375 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: Lubricating break slides and pins the contact areas where the 376 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: pad sit so they move is very very important. Let's 377 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: get on over and talk to Rick and Vermont a 378 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: d H. Chevy Silverado, and that looks like an UPSI Rick, 379 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: this looks like an ups search explained to me what happened? Well, Uh, 380 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: the truck from an old boy. Uh, and weren't great 381 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: one set of keys. It's a yard truck. If not, 382 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going out plowing everybody. Um, and 383 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: because of what's going on with me, it was gonna 384 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: be a project. And uh, I have no keys, and uh, 385 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what happened. I'm a creature of habit. 386 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: I put keys in a certain place and stuff like, 387 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: well guess what? No, and uh, a few people look, 388 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: you know at the truck. I think maybe five mistakes. 389 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: Somebody took the keys. So I have a brand new 390 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: lawn ornament that my wife will kill me if it 391 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: stays there any longer. And uh, just out of curiosity, 392 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: have you looked under the bumper and the frame rails? 393 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: Just did anybody put a high to key somewhere just 394 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: as a suggestion? Oh God, you've been all through that 395 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: stupid thing the yard. Uh, you know if it's here, 396 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: So let's assume, let's just let's assume there is no 397 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: spare key on the vehicle, but you know, I'm obligated 398 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: to mention it, right, So so you've got a couple 399 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: of you've got a couple of choices. You're either going 400 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: to have to pull the steering column because it's probably 401 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: had two keys. This should have had a square cut key, 402 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: a square head key for the ignition and a round 403 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: head key for the door. Is that does that sound right? Yeah? 404 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: So you know you and that eliminates the doors are easy. 405 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: You've just got to get a door panel off. Take 406 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: the locks cylinder to a locksmith. He could take it 407 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: apart and code it and see what the you know, 408 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: what the tumblers are, and then probably cut a key 409 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: and that will work. The problem is he's cutting a 410 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: tumbler or he's cutting key from Warren tumblers. It's an eight. 411 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: You know how crisp and clean is everything? And the 412 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: same could be said. You could do the same thing 413 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: with the ignition locks cylinder. You have to, you know, 414 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: get a steering wheel pull or you get a lock 415 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: the presser for the tilt and you know to press 416 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: it and pull the ignition locks cylinder out. Of course, 417 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: at that point you could just put a new lock 418 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: cylinder in which might not be the worst way to go. 419 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: You know that at least solves the ignition problem. You 420 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: just won't have a key for the door. The only 421 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: way you're gonna get the key for the doors to 422 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: do what I said, pull a lock cylinder. I would 423 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: probably take the passenger side if it has a not 424 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: all the trucks this generation had a lock cylinder in 425 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: the passenger side, But I would use the passenger side 426 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: lock because it's had the least amount of where right 427 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 1: most more people going and out the driver's door than 428 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: the passenger door. Or if the tailgate locks, you know, 429 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: use that lock because that's they're probably all going to 430 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: be key the same. The the insanely easiest way if 431 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: they can do it, is the is the truck titled 432 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: in your name? Is it registered in your name? Oh? 433 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: My god, No, it's a it's a yard truck. It's 434 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: not going to go on the road, right, But who's who? 435 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: Whose name is the truck? In? Who? On? There? Is 436 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: there a registration? Oh? I never registered it? Now, do 437 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: you have a title that says it's yours? Do you 438 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: have something that says this vehicle, this ven is yours? 439 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: Do you have a bill of sale. Yeah, okay, because 440 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to take that bill of sale to 441 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: the dealer with the serial number, all right, and they 442 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: might be able to take the serial number, copy it 443 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: backwards and find the key codes in the file and 444 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: cut keys from that. Well what happened. I did that 445 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: and they couldn't do it. Yeah, they said the truck 446 00:23:53,040 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: was too old, could not come up with the codes. Um. Uh, 447 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: they were all great. I have to met a couple 448 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: of people were so fantastic, uh, you know, looking things 449 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: up for me. It was awesome, but they all came 450 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: back to the same thing. Uh. One dealer up in St. 451 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: Alban's Verma said, uh, well the key. If I have 452 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: to buy the key, that means I have to buy 453 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: fifty of them. Well, a four dealers talk and there 454 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: is one dealer who actually has the key, but we 455 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: need the code. There are a backwards way to find them. 456 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: Not that I'm not that, I'm not that I'm aware 457 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: of brother. Um, you know, the the only the only 458 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: backwards way as far as getting the door keys would 459 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: be if you took the locks cylinder, and they can 460 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: take the locks cylinder apart. But there's a good chance 461 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: that taking the locks cylinder apart means that you now 462 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: have to put every placement locks cylinder in which could 463 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: be coded the same, so that all three or all 464 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: too you know both the both door locks are the same. Uh, 465 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: you know, if there's only if there's only one. How 466 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: many door locks are in this truck? Is there a 467 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: door lock on each side? Passenger side, driver's side, there's 468 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: a there's a key locks cylinder in each door? Yes? Yeah, Okay, 469 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: then then you've got to get it coded the same, 470 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: because getting one one to having one to not as 471 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: gets to be a pain in the butt. But yeah, 472 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: you could take the locks cylinder apart, but that would 473 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: only get you the coding for the door lock. That 474 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: won't get you the ignition. To get the ignition, you're 475 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: either pulling the locks cylinder. You're either gonna pull the 476 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: locks cylinder and you know, possibly have the dealer take 477 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: it apart of a locksmith. I probably use a locksmith 478 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: if you could find one. Have the locksmith take it 479 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: apart and look at the tumblers and see if they 480 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: can match a key from that, or you're going to 481 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: just purchase a new rotating lock cylinder, put it in 482 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: and you're done. Eight should not have had a chipped key. 483 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: I believe it's just a straight up key, so it's 484 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: cheap enough. It's just a matter of you may have 485 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: an anti theft relearn to do depending upon what generation 486 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: eight eight Silverado this is. But that's the only way 487 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: you're gonna do it. There's if the dealer can't do 488 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: it through VIN, then the key codes are just too old. 489 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: Vehicles too old, and there's just no other way to do. 490 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: How's thousand and thirty years old? Um? For yeah, thirty, 491 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: we're just we're thirty two years old here, so um, 492 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: I guess they're not obligating where they have to keep it. 493 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: So those are things you gotta go through. Rick, I 494 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: wish you had a better answer for you, but that's 495 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: the only way I know if to do it. Um, 496 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: you know those three steps, So good luck to you. 497 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: I hope it works out. Zero. The car doctors back 498 00:26:47,840 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: right after this. Hey, welcome back the car doctor. Can 499 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: can you help me diagnose this car? Well, let's let's 500 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 1: play the game right. And I heard this story this 501 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: week and I thought of all of you and how 502 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: much you would enjoy hearing it. So raise your hand 503 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: when you when you know the answer. I was talking 504 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: to a friend of mine in his repair shop, and 505 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: he's telling me about this two thousand three Chevy S 506 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: ten pickup truck that came in from a customer that 507 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: had a complaint of stalling a check engine light on 508 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: high fuel trims and a problem that the brakes weren't 509 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: working as good as they used to. And that's all 510 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: he got told, and that's all I got told. They 511 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: went through some diagnosis, they saw high fuel trims, they 512 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: fed it some propane, they saw the fuel trims come down. 513 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: They went through and they looked for some of the 514 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: obvious false vacuum weeks. They couldn't find any. And after 515 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: what they thought was eliminating everything that they had eliminated, 516 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: they said it must be an intake manifold leak. And 517 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: they had just finished up the intake manifold and I 518 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: happened to call him about something else, and he's telling 519 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: me this story, and um I asked him. I said, 520 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, when you were looking for the vacuum leak, 521 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: and I hate to be a backseat driver, when you 522 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: were looking for the vacuum leak, did you happen to 523 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: pull the brake line off the booster, you know, the 524 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: vacuum line off the booster and he said yeah. I said, 525 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: did it make a difference in fuel trim? And he 526 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: said no. I said okay, I said, did you happen 527 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: to leave the booster line hooked up and then push 528 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: on the brake pedal and see if it made a 529 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: difference in fuel trim? And he said no, I didn't 530 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: think of that. I said, okay, So I called him back, 531 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, the day after that, we had to talk 532 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: about something else, and um turns out they were they 533 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: were still working on the as ten the the intake 534 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: manifold didn't repair it, and they were now looking at 535 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: fuel filter and considering maybe some oxygen sensor faults as 536 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 1: to why this truck ran so lean. And you know, 537 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: I I asked him, I said, you know, talk to 538 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: me about the brakes. You know, what, what's the brake problem? 539 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: And he says, oh, it's really weird. He said, You're 540 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: driving along and you'll get to a stop sign and 541 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: everything's working really good, and then all of a sudden, 542 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: the brake pedal gets real hard, and you know, the 543 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: truck barely stops. You feel like you want to drag 544 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: your foot and then it's just about stalls and coughs 545 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: and wheezes. As I'm stepping on the brake, it's like 546 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: the idol is too low, but I can't raise the idol. 547 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: Do you see it? Whose hand is up? Mine was? I? 548 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: I saw what was going on here? I said, did 549 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: you happen to take the truck for a ride with 550 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: a scan tool? Did you look at fuel trim? And 551 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, anytime I'm anytime I'm hunting and doing any 552 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: kind of diagnostics like this, I'll take the cheapest scan 553 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: tool I've got and I'll look at you know, three 554 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: or four different pieces of information, three or four pits. 555 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to look at the whole list of 556 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: fifty year or four hundred. I want something quick. I 557 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: want to you know, I want to look at long 558 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: term fuel trim, short term fuel trim, both banks. I 559 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: want to look at calculated load. I want to look 560 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: at cool intemp. And I want to look at engine rpm. 561 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: Maybe run time, you know, but no more than six 562 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: or seven. No, nobody's taken it for a road test 563 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: because they you know, if they've road tested it. But 564 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, nobody's done it with the scancel looked up 565 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: because they know it stalls. They can see it's stalls, 566 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: and it doesn't set any fault codes. Huh. I said, 567 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: you ever consider the possibility that you've got a bad 568 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: break booster? And he said, yeah, but the brakes are 569 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: good most of the time, he says, every once in 570 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: a while, the pedal gets already. Said, we can't find 571 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: any fault there either, because you know, we've taken the 572 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: brakes all apart, we've replaced some of the brakes. We've 573 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, we've we've tested and checked everything. I said, 574 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: did you ever think you have a bad break booster? 575 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: I said, And maybe that's the fault of everything. That's 576 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: the fault of it all. And he said, what makes 577 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: you say that, I said, think about it. I said, 578 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: you're getting an intermittent heart break pedal. You're getting high 579 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: fuel trim. It's it's it sounds like it stalls when 580 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: you step on the break. I bet your fuel trim 581 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be higher when you step on the brake 582 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: because it's more of a lean condition and you're creating 583 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: a bigger vacuum leak stepping on the break. You're you're 584 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: you're spreading or or you know, tearing or pulling on 585 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: the rubber, making the whole bigger, making the leak bigger. 586 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: I said, it sure seems to me like you've got 587 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: a bad break booster. They put a brake booster in it. 588 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: I forget what Testy ran. I don't think you did anything. 589 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure if I got the right answer 590 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: at this point, because he was kind of getting annoyed 591 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: with me, and uh um. He did call me back 592 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: the next day about something. I said, Hey, how's the 593 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: s ten. He goes, Oh, it's all picked up and 594 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: paid for. What was wrong with it? Oh? It it 595 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: needed a bunch of work, And yeah, we think you 596 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: were right. You know, maybe the brake problem was related 597 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: to the to the to the stall too, because we 598 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: put a break booster in it. And the trucks now fixed. 599 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: And the point becomes that sometimes diagingo us. This is 600 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: multi layered. And as I started the show telling you 601 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: about cars that had three problems one vehicle, now I'm 602 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: telling you three conditions to be created by one one 603 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: fault the bad break booster, the break booster, the diaphragm 604 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: was pours, the rubber was leaking, causing a vacuum leak 605 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: worse under load, making the vehicle stall and sometimes coming 606 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: close to but not quite stolen. But fuel trims were 607 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: high because at one point he finally drove it and 608 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 1: that's what led him to the booster. Fuel trims were 609 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: higher or higher when he stepped on the brake because 610 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: of the vacuum leak that was created by by stepping 611 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: on the brake and the rubber diaphragm that was failing 612 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: on the eighteen year old Chevy S ten. So don't 613 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: rule out diagnosed and just go all the way. You 614 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: gotta be like Colombo. It's like being a detective five zero. 615 00:32:47,800 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: The car doctors coming back right after this welcome back. 616 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: We're on the end of the car doctor. No, we're 617 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: called this hour. But keep in mind eight five five 618 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero seven phone number. You can 619 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: call the aforementioned phone number eight zero zero and leave 620 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: a message. There's a messaging service attached to it. You 621 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: don't have to be the show doesn't have to be 622 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: on in order for to use the phone number, and 623 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: Tom Ray, executive producer, will call you back and put 624 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: you in qu for the next live broadcast we begin 625 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,239 Speaker 1: out of it. I'm I'm giving you more to do. 626 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, well you need more to do. No, 627 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't have to work with you on Saturday. That's plenty. Well, 628 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: that's the good part. So that's why they call it 629 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: good and plenty. I'm like Candy, I'm so sweet. Oh uh, 630 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: you know what I wanted to tell everybody about Tom, 631 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: Danny's finishing up. Well, Danny's finishing up his Z and 632 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: Dane's got a seventy eight and it's it's kind of funny, 633 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: right like, we're going through the valve adjustment on a 634 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: small block Chevy and this is something I probably haven't done, geez. 635 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: The last time I did hydraulic lifters on a on 636 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: a cast iron small block was probably fifteen years ago. 637 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: And there used to be a little clip that you 638 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: would sit on the end of the rocke arm that 639 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: would deflect the oil so it wouldn't slash over the 640 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: side when you were adjusting the valves. And you know, 641 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: I can't find those clips. I know I've got them somewhere, 642 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: but between the house and the shop and multiple hot 643 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: rods and not using them in the better part of 644 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: at least fifteen years, maybe longer, you know, there's somewhere 645 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to explain to Danny what they are 646 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: because he's never seen them. He's he's that younger generation. 647 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: They don't they don't know from adjusting valves on small 648 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: block chevies. It's not what they were brought up on. 649 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: And I started thinking about how technology is just sort 650 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: of sliding by, you know, and and the things that 651 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: the older mechanics don't do anymore, and the tools they 652 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: used to use that were their bread and utter, that 653 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: now sit aside collecting dust and just you know, waiting 654 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: for a chance to be used, but likely won't because 655 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: all that technology has gone in place of the new technology, 656 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: in place of the next newer technology. You wonder what 657 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: that next newer technology is gonna be. I'm rounding any 658 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: in the car doctor, reminding you this time until the 659 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you