Speaker 1: Okay, it's only films to be buried with. Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome to films to be buried with. My name is
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer, a director,
Speaker 1: a best boy, and I love film. As Jodi Picoe
Speaker 1: once said, you don't love someone because they're perfect. You
Speaker 1: love them in spite of the fact that they're not.
Speaker 1: It's much like the film Bad Times at l Royale.
Speaker 1: It might not be perfect, but fuck me if it
Speaker 1: ain't a keeper. Now what I mean, absolutely I do,
Speaker 1: Jodi Picot. I love that film wildly underrated. Every week
Speaker 1: I invite a special guest over. I tell them they've died.
Speaker 1: Then I get them to discuss their life through the
Speaker 1: films that meant the most of them. Previous guests include
Speaker 1: Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Jamila Jamil and even Shared Blambles.
Speaker 1: But this week it's the brilliant comedian, actor, podcaster, writer
Speaker 1: and creator mister Pete Holmes. Get over to the patron
Speaker 1: at patreon dot com forward slashpect Goldstein. So long run
Speaker 1: this one. You get an extra thirty minutes with Pete
Speaker 1: where we go deep. We talk about beginnings and endings.
Speaker 1: You get a truly upsetting secret and the whole episode
Speaker 1: uncut and as a video. Check it out over at
Speaker 1: patreon dot com. Forward Slashbrett Goldstein Ted last of season
Speaker 1: two is all finished. It's all available now on Apple
Speaker 1: TV Plus. You can watch the whole thing in one go.
Speaker 1: Soulmate season one is on Amazon Prime. You can watch
Speaker 1: that in one guy. You can watch him both together separately,
Speaker 1: one at a time. However, we want to do it
Speaker 1: by you fucking mind. So Pete Holmes. Pete Holmes, if
Speaker 1: you don't know him, he's a comedian, a writer, an actor,
Speaker 1: a creator, and a podcaster. He's got one of my
Speaker 1: favorite podcasts called You Made It Weird. I very much
Speaker 1: recommend it. I met him recently. I was so excited
Speaker 1: to get him on the podcast. We recorded this on
Speaker 1: Zoom a few days ago. He is a pure joy.
Speaker 1: I think I gave him a couple of standing ovations.
Speaker 1: You are going to love it. So that is it
Speaker 1: for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one of Films to be Buried With. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is
Speaker 1: me Brett Goldstein, and I'm joined Today by a writer,
Speaker 1: a actor, a podcast of one of my all time
Speaker 1: favorite podcasts, a father, a husband, a stand up comedian,
Speaker 1: a legend, a hero, a superstar, and a god, amongst men.
Speaker 1: Please welcome to the show The Brilliant. It's oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: thank you, kindly, thank you. I just plugged in my
Speaker 1: headphones during that kind intro because I realized, for tech reasons,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here. I'm a fan. I've
Speaker 1: listened to the pod. Come on, I enjoy it. I
Speaker 1: told you off Mike that everybody secretly wants to do it.
Speaker 1: This is the podcast that people play in their head
Speaker 1: when they're on the on the toilet or in the
Speaker 1: shower and they're like and then he says, what's the
Speaker 1: one that's given you a boner shouldn't have? And you're like, well, Brett.
Speaker 1: So it's awesome to actually be here. This is my
Speaker 1: twenty twenty Well, Pete Homes you know I'm a massive fan.
Speaker 1: I love your podcast. It's one of the few podcasts
Speaker 1: that I listen to on the RAG And I think
Speaker 1: the reason people want to do my podcast is because
Speaker 1: it's one of the few podcasts you can do where
Speaker 1: you don't have to talk about what you're working on
Speaker 1: at the moment. So what are you working on at
Speaker 1: the moment? I love it, I love it, But you
Speaker 1: do have something? You do have? Yes, tell us the
Speaker 1: big news. I do. Oh, you don't actually want it.
Speaker 1: The bit is that you don't want to know that
Speaker 1: you don't. I do, I actually do. I actually was.
Speaker 1: It was half a jig and half setting you up
Speaker 1: to plug about the big, big exciting well I am doing.
Speaker 1: I'm about to do a multicam, which you said, which
Speaker 1: really made me happy. You said, when a multi caam
Speaker 1: has done right, you went look out, which made me
Speaker 1: really happy. Which made me happy. Yeah, so I am
Speaker 1: about to start that, which is exciting for a lot
Speaker 1: of reasons, but maybe towards the top is like being
Speaker 1: with people, acting with people, being on a set with
Speaker 1: like camera operators and sound people and script supervisors, Like
Speaker 1: it just sounds like heaven to me. When I was
Speaker 1: doing the other shows I've done. You do them long enough,
Speaker 1: you really do start taking it for granted. And now
Speaker 1: after this time away, I'm like, I'm gonna be amongst humans.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're like it. Think about how many hearts are
Speaker 1: beating in the room. And just like, look at all
Speaker 1: the hearts beating in this room, how many eyes or
Speaker 1: are kind of floating around taking in what they can
Speaker 1: take in. And I was like, we're here together, and
Speaker 1: I'm super excited to try to be funny and have fun.
Speaker 1: And when you're just acting, so you're a writer and
Speaker 1: an actor, but when you're just acting, I find it's
Speaker 1: much easier to just be like kind and sort of
Speaker 1: zen and like sort of float around and be like, well,
Speaker 1: it's not my decision, you know what I mean? You
Speaker 1: have to go like, wow, we have to beat this
Speaker 1: joke or write this new scene, or like oh they're
Speaker 1: saying we need to change this. Just get to show up,
Speaker 1: stand where they tell me to stand, say what they
Speaker 1: tell me to say, and be a nice person. And
Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. Wow. Well that's interesting actually, because
Speaker 1: you have been doing a lot of writing out in
Speaker 1: your mind stuff. Do you not think you'll be tempted
Speaker 1: to have a wright stand up brain, particularly with a
Speaker 1: live audience with a mike. If something I'm assuming in
Speaker 1: hoping these writers are real excellent, but if anything kind
Speaker 1: of doesn't quite land that you're going to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: as you'll stand up braining a kick in and go
Speaker 1: on top of this. I think it will. But you
Speaker 1: know what was humbling when we did the pilot is
Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know, the show's called Smallwood.
Speaker 1: I'm Tom Smallwood. I'm like, look at me, I'm Tom Smallwood.
Speaker 1: I'll so We'd do three four takes of a scene
Speaker 1: and then I'd be like, I got one, I got one,
Speaker 1: I got an alt I'm going to try something different
Speaker 1: on this take, and I would do it and it
Speaker 1: wouldn't work. How not funny does it have to be?
Speaker 1: You're the lead character. They've already seen three takes of
Speaker 1: the way it was written, and now you're changing it out.
Speaker 1: But you get a laugh just based on the novelty alone,
Speaker 1: and no one was laughing. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's time to eat some shit and take my humble
Speaker 1: pill for the day. But we also didn't know that's
Speaker 1: why they ko me smooth Woods. I actually thought when
Speaker 1: I opened it was going to be about a guy
Speaker 1: with a tiny, tiny wiener, and it is, but no
Speaker 1: one's going to know that that's just your backstory. Yet
Speaker 1: it's more of a front story, a lower to the front.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I haven't at tiny Wheenie congrass
Speaker 1: you lass listen, I think from what I hate people
Speaker 1: with tiny wheenies just worked hard here and they're a
Speaker 1: smoke ray because they go make up for stuff. So
Speaker 1: that's cool. Like the Great Pumpkin being number two, perhaps
Speaker 1: you try harder. I watch so many kids things with
Speaker 1: my daughter, so the references are going to be a
Speaker 1: lot of Charlie Brown Peanuts movie Not Bad might make
Speaker 1: my list today. You put me in a real Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm quandry there because I was like, I don't quite
Speaker 1: know what the Great Pumpkin is, but there's no way
Speaker 1: I don't want to guess added it. Yeah, well, but
Speaker 1: here we are. I won't do it again. Don't ever
Speaker 1: do a reference I don't know again, or you are
Speaker 1: off the pod. That was my favorite? Can I say
Speaker 1: it's a plug of you. Yeah, when you did my podcast,
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. There literally are moments on my
Speaker 1: podcast of agreement, of improvisation, of just two people melding
Speaker 1: that take my breath away. It's one of my favorite things,
Speaker 1: especially when you don't know each other. And the moment
Speaker 1: on your episode is when I said I called someone
Speaker 1: a bell end. It's one of my favorite British insults.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, and you Belle, and did it like you? Yes?
Speaker 1: And but bell Land and when you knew what I
Speaker 1: meant when I said thank you for the belland I
Speaker 1: was like friends, friends, I was like, that's all it takes.
Speaker 1: I just need some great took each other, took each
Speaker 1: other show it is lived into the eyes and went friends.
Speaker 1: That's right, friends, we just become best friends. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was one of those. It was one of those QUI
Speaker 1: serious question though, if I may about the multicam, because
Speaker 1: I have a thing that I honestly, I'm so fascinated
Speaker 1: by them. I've worked on I've worked on one in
Speaker 1: England and I do I genuinely think. You know, they're
Speaker 1: easy to dismiss when they're average or bad, but when
Speaker 1: they're good, you think, cheers. Everybody loves Raymond like these
Speaker 1: are some of the greatest shows ever. And the writing,
Speaker 1: the way multicams have to be is they have to
Speaker 1: be banger after bang it. Every line has to be
Speaker 1: a fucking banger in a way that most sitcoms at
Speaker 1: a single caam you can get away with less big
Speaker 1: fucking jokes. However, The thing that interests me, and it's
Speaker 1: early days, you haven't done it yet, is how they
Speaker 1: treat the actual audience in the room, because that's a
Speaker 1: real I think Everybody Loves Raymond was the best at
Speaker 1: the way the actors reacted to the studio audience felt
Speaker 1: brilliant because they these studios. Because sometimes you watch things
Speaker 1: where the studio owners are too excited for how you
Speaker 1: feel at home watching it, and so it feels weird.
Speaker 1: It's like a disconnect. You're like, why are they laughing
Speaker 1: so much? It's not that fucking good. Yeah, it's all
Speaker 1: my stuff cutting yeah, yeah, yeah, left out whereas and
Speaker 1: there are things like there are some sitcoms out I
Speaker 1: won't name, but there are like some good sitcoms, but
Speaker 1: where it almost feels like they ignore the audience the
Speaker 1: studio laugh and it's almost an annoyance to them. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just ignoring it and we're getting on with the
Speaker 1: thing and there's laughter in the background. But in Everybody
Speaker 1: Loves Raymond in particular, I think they were the best
Speaker 1: at this. They would like sit in the laughs. They'd
Speaker 1: get a big laugh and there'd be a little and
Speaker 1: it was very subtle but there was like a twinkle
Speaker 1: in the eye and some acknowledgement from the actors like
Speaker 1: this bit is killing, and they would sit in it
Speaker 1: and it would spread to you at home because it
Speaker 1: was real. It was like a live connection was going on.
Speaker 1: Rather than two separate things, an audience and the show,
Speaker 1: it was like melding them and then you felt part
Speaker 1: of it at home. Thoughts Pete hopes it's like when
Speaker 1: the Lovers sketch with Will Farrell and Rachel Dratch and
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon is in the hot tub as well and
Speaker 1: he's breaking, And I remember there was a time when
Speaker 1: people were it was called the nineties. I think people
Speaker 1: were just so mad at Jimmy Fallon for laughing. But
Speaker 1: those are the ones that I remember because I felt
Speaker 1: like I was in on something, just a little bit wicked,
Speaker 1: just a little bit alive, electric, like something was happening
Speaker 1: that is funny. And I'm not turning on SNL to
Speaker 1: watch someone do something perfectly, and I'm not watching a
Speaker 1: multi camp to have them pretend like there isn't an
Speaker 1: audience there. And that is something very interesting about I
Speaker 1: think the human animals that works like you can be
Speaker 1: at home you're not there. It's actually what makes film
Speaker 1: so amazing. You're not there, but you're transported. Val and
Speaker 1: I went and saw Cruella. It was the first movie
Speaker 1: we saw after the pandemic, after we were allowed to its. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not being dismissive of cruel I thought it was
Speaker 1: a really good movie. Great movie. It's great, and it
Speaker 1: was what was out. So we went and saw kind
Speaker 1: of like a kids movie, even though we're two parents
Speaker 1: kind of desperately wanting a break from kids movies. But
Speaker 1: it ended up being really great. I really loved it
Speaker 1: and it's great. There's something about cinema. Don't get me started,
Speaker 1: but sitting in the dark is a small ego death.
Speaker 1: You disappear, you're in the dark. You can't even see yourself.
Speaker 1: You're gone. It's like a drug experience or a vision,
Speaker 1: let's say vision to not exclude people, or a dream.
Speaker 1: So you vanish. Not only do you vanish into the dark,
Speaker 1: you vanish into the audience. There's anonymity in the numbers
Speaker 1: that you're now a group called an audience watching a movie.
Speaker 1: And then that audience vanishes and the lights dimming is
Speaker 1: signing kind of like a huge your lizard brain to
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, shut the fuck up, you're now going
Speaker 1: to have these people's thoughts. We were talking about, like
Speaker 1: when I go to music concerts, I don't go to
Speaker 1: a lot, as evidence by the fact that I call
Speaker 1: them music concerts. That's an old joke of mine, but
Speaker 1: it's true. I don't need to be sitting there with
Speaker 1: my own brain for two hours, especially if it's not
Speaker 1: If it's Beyonce, that's a spectacle and you're like really
Speaker 1: into it, But if it's just like a band and
Speaker 1: they're playing nice music, I'm two up here. I love
Speaker 1: Cinema grabs you and goes you're now this person and
Speaker 1: someone's chasing you. I'll know when you're in love with
Speaker 1: two people, who are you gonna pick? And at the
Speaker 1: end the lights come up and it's like coming out
Speaker 1: of a vision or a drug experience, and you go
Speaker 1: back into your body and I'm reverent. When I leave
Speaker 1: a movie, I do not start talking about what I
Speaker 1: think about until we're home. I hate the people that
Speaker 1: start going like washing is good. It's ultimatum, but it
Speaker 1: was better than green Grass's work with Damon in the
Speaker 1: Non Born series. You know, I don't you're supposed to
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. You just came back from a
Speaker 1: psychedelic experience. Have some reverence. Even if you think you
Speaker 1: didn't like it, maybe you weren't supposed to. Like a
Speaker 1: good example, M six Connected in New York, you're not
Speaker 1: supposed to like it. It's you're supposed to feel the
Speaker 1: monotony and the drag and the craving of the ending
Speaker 1: of the movie in the same way that the character
Speaker 1: is craving death. He wants to die and and and
Speaker 1: they're making you feel that. So don't go like, oh
Speaker 1: you like it? Where was optimist prime? Shut the fuck
Speaker 1: up and like feel maybe something uncomfortable or inconvenient. So
Speaker 1: I also, this is the other theory I want to
Speaker 1: put to you. It looks like I've I've loaded you good.
Speaker 1: The camera lens is a dilated pupil. It's an open eye.
Speaker 1: So if you've ever been in a meditative state or
Speaker 1: in love, you know when you're when you're aroused. I
Speaker 1: don't mean sexually arouse, when you're when your nervous system
Speaker 1: is aroused. Your eyes your pupils dilating. You take in
Speaker 1: so much more, You've taken so much more light. So
Speaker 1: much more detail. That's what a camera lens is, and
Speaker 1: then we blow up that image huge and let your
Speaker 1: lenses scan a perfect lens shot and what to focus on.
Speaker 1: It is a transcendent experience. I didn't plan on saying
Speaker 1: any of this, but that's why I love the movies.
Speaker 1: You have like a vision, Pete Holmes. The last two
Speaker 1: minutes of watching you on the screen is now my
Speaker 1: answer to traveling Bonus. Yes, yes that was. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean I have to. I mean that was so wonderful,
Speaker 1: and you're so right on all of it, right to really, really,
Speaker 1: really beautifully put and it is entirely what you have
Speaker 1: said is entirely why I always argue against people watching
Speaker 1: films at home. When people go, I can watch it
Speaker 1: at home, and you go, but you don't get that.
Speaker 1: You don't get the ego death, you don't get the
Speaker 1: the and you don't get lost. It's about losing yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very high to lose yourself at home. Even if
Speaker 1: you've got a good sound system and you can turn
Speaker 1: your lights down, you're still at home. You've got your fines,
Speaker 1: you've got your kids, you've got you whatever. I agree,
Speaker 1: it's you have to surrender to it. It's hard to
Speaker 1: surrender at hime. You get stirred into it. It's like
Speaker 1: at the end the trance is broken and you realize, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not Jason Bourne, or I'm not whoever it might
Speaker 1: have been, I'm not Mineral Streep's character or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And we went and we watched Cruella again at home,
Speaker 1: and I when we saw it, the soundtrack is incredible,
Speaker 1: and when you see it in a movie theater, it's
Speaker 1: blasting the rolling stones. It's blasting the rolling stones, and
Speaker 1: you're just like, like, try to not like the rolling
Speaker 1: stones when they're that loud. And then at home on
Speaker 1: our little TV with the curtains open, not even dark,
Speaker 1: it was fine. I could see how someone would watch
Speaker 1: that movie and be like, it was fine. But I
Speaker 1: remember that Mission Impossible, where Tom Cruise has to jump
Speaker 1: into a whirlpool of water and he has to go
Speaker 1: right into the middle of it and hold his breath
Speaker 1: for three minutes. That's what going to the movies is
Speaker 1: is you have to jump into that hole. And that's
Speaker 1: why it's so offensive. When someone is scrolling through old
Speaker 1: texts that happened to me in a movie or answering
Speaker 1: their phone or whatever is because like a comedy show,
Speaker 1: you are resisting the communal mind. You are now not
Speaker 1: the audience. You are Steve, and Steve is answering his
Speaker 1: phone right now, and you're breaking a chance for a
Speaker 1: lot of people that need it. Human beings need escape.
Speaker 1: And we'll get when we get to my answers. The
Speaker 1: movies that I watch over and over are the ways
Speaker 1: that I process. I just had like a weird dinner,
Speaker 1: and I knew the movies I had to watch to
Speaker 1: help me process and get perspective on these strange feelings.
Speaker 1: So it's therapy. It's learning that you're not alone. You know,
Speaker 1: when you see a movie and you just have to
Speaker 1: go for a drive afterwards because you're just like just
Speaker 1: brought you into the moment, and it brought you to life,
Speaker 1: and it reminded you of the infinite possibilities that you
Speaker 1: can move in any direction, that you can fall in love,
Speaker 1: that you can get angry, that you can see something
Speaker 1: you never thought you'd see, and you just have to drive.
Speaker 1: That was me good Will Hunting, nineteen ninety seven. We're
Speaker 1: just like, let's go for a drive. That's the magic,
Speaker 1: and that's why it's offensive when someone's eating their popcorn
Speaker 1: too loudly. If I ever if I ever die, I
Speaker 1: might leave you did podcast in the will if you
Speaker 1: could take it out, I love it. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The other thing you're talking about. You you mentioned a
Speaker 1: lot like big films. You talk about born out to me,
Speaker 1: you talk about missing the possible corella and stuff. But
Speaker 1: I also, like, I get super mad with people when
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's a film you can
Speaker 1: watch at home. It's like, there is no film you
Speaker 1: can watch out And I'm gonna probably keep talking about
Speaker 1: this film every week in this podcast. I saw Mass
Speaker 1: the other day. Mass. Have you seen it? I haven't,
Speaker 1: but someone told this time and they wept. Yeah. It's four.
Speaker 1: It's essentially four people in a room for most of
Speaker 1: the film. And it's the sort of film some people
Speaker 1: could say, well, it's like a play, and some people
Speaker 1: would say, we could just watch it. It's just people talking.
Speaker 1: It is a fucking cinematic experience and it is so intense,
Speaker 1: and it is so it's a masterpiece from every angle, writing, acting, directing, everything,
Speaker 1: And there's no way you have to surrender to it.
Speaker 1: You have it's it's as intense, more intense than a
Speaker 1: fucking Born film, like You're, You're, It's you know, I
Speaker 1: was holding my breath the whole time. It was like
Speaker 1: this is this is as much cinema as Tom Cruise
Speaker 1: jumping in a waterfall. I feel the same way about
Speaker 1: Frost Nixon, which if you rewatch Frost Nixon after the
Speaker 1: Trump presidency, it gives you a whole new perspective on
Speaker 1: it because I wasn't there for the for Nixon, but
Speaker 1: you're like, imagine if James Gordon interviewed Darnald Trump. But
Speaker 1: it is just a play. It is a play made
Speaker 1: into a film, but it has the same stakes. But
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's what theater is. Theater is like
Speaker 1: they're there if someone's going to be or not to
Speaker 1: be and they're feeling it and you're in the room.
Speaker 1: There's tension and that yanks out the stakes, like it
Speaker 1: makes you invested in it, And that's what the movies
Speaker 1: are doing. In the theater setting. There is even like
Speaker 1: an unspoken frequency that I think good audiences are trying
Speaker 1: to transmit where it's like we're gonna we're gonna do
Speaker 1: this good, right, I need this, Like I need this.
Speaker 1: It's that's why the commercials at the beginning aren't the
Speaker 1: right feel. It should be all movie related. It should
Speaker 1: be movie trivia, or should be quiet, or it should
Speaker 1: be just looking at the curtain and you're just like,
Speaker 1: what's it gonna be behind that curtain. I don't want
Speaker 1: someone being like, what's up fast pass? If you want
Speaker 1: to see more exclusive action only for you, sign up
Speaker 1: and scan this QRC coating now and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: fuck you. Or they show me. We just saw the
Speaker 1: knew James Bond and they were show scenes from the
Speaker 1: movie we were about to see. Oh yeah, that's insane
Speaker 1: to promote that since the app or something in the
Speaker 1: video game or something, and I was like, then we're
Speaker 1: watching the movie and I'm like, why is this familiar?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's because we had the decency to
Speaker 1: show up ten minutes early and you're punishing me. Nobody
Speaker 1: knows that. Get the fuck out of here. One thing,
Speaker 1: I just to go back to where this will started,
Speaker 1: just because I don't know if there is an answer
Speaker 1: to it. I'm just curious. On Little Wood, have you Smallwood?
Speaker 1: Have you the exacts? The people making it had a
Speaker 1: discussion at all about how you're going to be treating
Speaker 1: the audience or do you think it's something you will
Speaker 1: just find when you make it. Well, I think it
Speaker 1: remains to be seen. If there's going to be an
Speaker 1: audience because of Oh Shit, Coco, there might be a
Speaker 1: small audience. So my dream would be to do it
Speaker 1: for a live audience. I had some friends and friends
Speaker 1: that wrote on Friends and they were telling me about
Speaker 1: how much fun the actors would have exactly what you're
Speaker 1: saying playing to it. And I had a little guest
Speaker 1: role on Mulaney, so that was a multiicam that I
Speaker 1: got to act in and it was so fun being
Speaker 1: a stand up and knowing see stand up is not
Speaker 1: just the audience listening to the comedian that that's not
Speaker 1: a very compelling art form. It's actually both. The audience
Speaker 1: is listening to the comedian and a good comedian, not
Speaker 1: all of them, but a good comedian is. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to be weird and say, like a lover is
Speaker 1: listening to the audience, you're agreeing on undp hundyp and
Speaker 1: we don't mean pence because we mean a hundred percent.
Speaker 1: So you leave with the material, but you also leave
Speaker 1: with the sensation of someone was so tuned into you
Speaker 1: that if you made a certain kind of silence, they
Speaker 1: knew what you meant, and everyone it was mutually beneficial,
Speaker 1: like we all were seen and heard today. Um So
Speaker 1: when I did Millennia, I remember, like exactly what you're saying,
Speaker 1: trying to manufacture that twinkle in the eye that's sort
Speaker 1: of like just slide upturned smile, like I know you
Speaker 1: like this, or I know you would do this. You're
Speaker 1: such a You're such a cad doing something, doing something
Speaker 1: that I'm just getting, doing something that you know isn't
Speaker 1: gonna make it, like, isn't gonna make it on the show.
Speaker 1: I love those because it's about a tone. If you
Speaker 1: just film a show, who fucking cares. But if if
Speaker 1: there's a happening occurring, that's that's really special. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the thing that makes life. And you did it very well.
Speaker 1: In the HPS crashes, they're capturing capturing live. It's so
Speaker 1: hard to capture live, and the feeling of being there
Speaker 1: is very hard. Anyway. Yeah, I've forgotten to tell you something.
Speaker 1: I've just realized. What ah fuck, Pete, I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: you have this big gig happening. I should have told
Speaker 1: you this, no, actually, probably should have just sent you
Speaker 1: an email or something. And do you know what, I
Speaker 1: should have been brave and said this earlier, just face
Speaker 1: to face. I should have called you, maybe FaceTime. I
Speaker 1: don't like where this is. No well, and I know
Speaker 1: you're You've got so much, you had so much. I'll
Speaker 1: just say it is. Tell me what it is. It's okay.
Speaker 1: Is it okay? You've died? You're dead dead, that you're dead.
Speaker 1: That's not okay, you're dead. I'm dead, dead dead. I
Speaker 1: don't how did you die? Wait? You don't want that?
Speaker 1: I do? Like if? I but what what if? There
Speaker 1: is an afterlife? And you're like? But I was watching Succession?
Speaker 1: How did I die? I was in a motel, a
Speaker 1: CD motel, and I heard some I heard some stray
Speaker 1: cats in the wall, like I said, it was a
Speaker 1: CD motel and there was a hole in the wall
Speaker 1: CD and I tried to put my arms in to
Speaker 1: rescue the cats. They needed help, but I couldn't get
Speaker 1: in enough. So I took my shirt off and I
Speaker 1: put lotion all over my body and I tried to
Speaker 1: get in but I still but I still couldn't get
Speaker 1: in enough, so I took my pants. I took my
Speaker 1: pants off and I covered myself in lotion all over
Speaker 1: my family, my crown jews, and I'm all over and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to wedge in to save the cats. But
Speaker 1: again I can't. Now I'm worried I'll go too far in,
Speaker 1: so I put like little clamps on my nipples, and
Speaker 1: I tie the nipple clamps to the lamp in the
Speaker 1: stay with me to the hotel room. And then so
Speaker 1: I'm going in and I started kind of rubbing and
Speaker 1: I have the nipple clamps that I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: the cats, and the friction gives me a boner. And
Speaker 1: then I go on the bed and I die and
Speaker 1: I la have an aneurysm, and when I die, I
Speaker 1: jizz and then when they find me, it looks like
Speaker 1: I was just having a wink. But I'm telling I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. I was trying to say, I'm so glad
Speaker 1: you asked, because I need I've needed to clear this.
Speaker 1: I've needed to clear this. I was trying to rescue cats,
Speaker 1: not not masturbating. A motel that looks like it was
Speaker 1: designed for masturbating, is it's annoying how often this death
Speaker 1: comes up on this and the oath looks like I
Speaker 1: went to death death. Oh my god, wait for is
Speaker 1: that it looks like I wank to death? Is a
Speaker 1: real one? That would be so funny if everyone was like,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid that it's gonna look like I winked. You're
Speaker 1: the first, you are the best. Wow, I'm honored. I'm
Speaker 1: when I'm finding that police report, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: struggle with the nipple clamps, explaining that I don't quite
Speaker 1: get what the thinking was to save the cats. Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't want I didn't want to I didn't want
Speaker 1: to get sucked into the cat hole. What if it
Speaker 1: was an alternate dimension and I was like, I'm using
Speaker 1: my hands, I'm using my knees and my feet. I
Speaker 1: need something and I go ear lobes too risky nips.
Speaker 1: You know what? It was a heroic death, thank you.
Speaker 1: Well the cats died. The cats, the cats are they're
Speaker 1: all dead. They're are dead, and you're dead. So what
Speaker 1: it looks like is that you wanked yourself to death,
Speaker 1: killed some cats. Looking at dead cats. That set that
Speaker 1: that was your that was your kink. I can only
Speaker 1: do it if they're dead cats. No, we've done it.
Speaker 1: We've made it. The worst answer the legacy you're leaving
Speaker 1: possibly be. Do you do you worry about death? Pete Himes?
Speaker 1: I think about death a lot um. It's part of
Speaker 1: my oh god, my spiritual practice. But it is there's
Speaker 1: a great um ramdas quoties, like when you accept there's
Speaker 1: a okay, I'll start actually with the Dawdy Ching. The
Speaker 1: Dawdy Ching says he who finds or she who finds
Speaker 1: their way in the morning can gladly go in the evening.
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite little stanzas in the Dowdy Ching.
Speaker 1: And I find that to be one of the meanings
Speaker 1: of life is to prepare for death. To I don't
Speaker 1: want to go like like the science project and go
Speaker 1: like that we do today, Like I would like to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, right, we've given this it's due. There's
Speaker 1: another great Chinese proverb that says death and love are
Speaker 1: the two great gifts most people to leave unopened meaning.
Speaker 1: It's not an error. It's part of what imbues the
Speaker 1: whole thing with meaning, and it's a clue to kind
Speaker 1: of how it works in permanence. Learning to let things
Speaker 1: go learning to We say on my podcast all the time,
Speaker 1: would ice cream taste good if you knew you lived forever?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I actually think you're eating ice
Speaker 1: cream and you're kind of like, I'm going to die
Speaker 1: and I'm eating ice cream right now. This is fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: But if you were just kind of floating in the
Speaker 1: ether orgasms whenever you want, ice cream, whenever you want, whatever,
Speaker 1: whenever you want, I think you would create this. And
Speaker 1: you know what's good evidence for that that this exists.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of like an interesting way to think
Speaker 1: of God as something that could do whatever it wanted.
Speaker 1: Alan Watts says, if you could have an orgasm that
Speaker 1: just keeps getting better and better and better, how many
Speaker 1: years would you do that? For? How many thousands of years?
Speaker 1: And then he goes, how long would you do it
Speaker 1: before you make a button that says something happens? And
Speaker 1: that just changed my life. When I heard him say that,
Speaker 1: I was like, we want some degree of not being
Speaker 1: in control. We want to have mystery to grapple with,
Speaker 1: we want to have loss to grapple with. Um. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think about it a lot. And because of and
Speaker 1: we don't have to get into this. But because of
Speaker 1: certain psychedelic experiences, my death anxiety has shrunk to the
Speaker 1: size of a pebble. And I would say it used
Speaker 1: to be sort of a mount Rushmore, sort of like
Speaker 1: oh no, yeah, so you you were masturbating NonStop, relentlessly,
Speaker 1: and then Alan what said at some point the button
Speaker 1: will a pit that says something happened and you stopped.
Speaker 1: I should get them things. Actually, I'm glad that's what
Speaker 1: you took from it. I'm glad that's oh my god,
Speaker 1: masturbating because there's ice cream to get. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what no us? But come on stop it. Can you
Speaker 1: tell me when you say the psychedelics tough time, it's
Speaker 1: going to all of them. But as in, have you
Speaker 1: done stuff that's made you think you've seen the other
Speaker 1: side or anything like that? Yes, and and well to summarize,
Speaker 1: I think I can summarize it quickly because we all
Speaker 1: just want to we want to get to the films.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, I forgot. I forgot. That's what you
Speaker 1: are fun. The summary is, and you can you can.
Speaker 1: I hope you keep this. I'll say the short one
Speaker 1: first and then this lightly longer one is people are
Speaker 1: afraid of the void. Right, if I could tell you
Speaker 1: something that I have experiential understanding is true. I mean
Speaker 1: I can still hear my brain going like that might
Speaker 1: not be true, but something deeper has occurred, something is transformed.
Speaker 1: And I really know this in my bones to be true.
Speaker 1: Is you are the void. So there's nothing, there's no
Speaker 1: blackness coming to get you. That isn't you, That isn't
Speaker 1: the all and the everything, and that when you die,
Speaker 1: it's like being a spoonful of sugar and you're stirred
Speaker 1: into a glass of iced tea and bread is gone,
Speaker 1: but bread is also there because everything that ever was,
Speaker 1: is or ever would be, is all there at once,
Speaker 1: and time has stopped. A good metaphor for that would
Speaker 1: be heaven. Oh there are my dead relatives. But it's
Speaker 1: really much crazier and wilder than that. And there's nothing
Speaker 1: to be afraid of because it's you that's really If
Speaker 1: if you were dying today, I would say, Brett, trust
Speaker 1: yourself because your consciousness with science and you and I
Speaker 1: would call consciousness that is your truest, deepest self, and
Speaker 1: that consciousness is divine. So you aren't going anywhere. What
Speaker 1: isn't God? Is being stripped away, and what is God
Speaker 1: remains and that is a fucking you could call that
Speaker 1: the good news. That's like fucking good news. And when
Speaker 1: you worry about the world, I go like, I have
Speaker 1: a bit about this. I go like, it'll be okay,
Speaker 1: and I go, I don't mean us. I don't mean
Speaker 1: humanity like we could be like dinosaurs. I mean who
Speaker 1: you really are is life itself. You are life itself.
Speaker 1: Life itself is looking out your eyes, beating your heart,
Speaker 1: filling your lungs, and it walks around and pretends that
Speaker 1: it's bread. Oh, I'm on a show called te Lassau
Speaker 1: and you go around. That's all just play. That's what
Speaker 1: my daughter's name means. Leela means the play of the universe.
Speaker 1: And the good news is you are something eternal and
Speaker 1: that is consciousness itself. And when you die, like a lobster,
Speaker 1: you're pulled out of its shell. Bread is left behind,
Speaker 1: the red pinchey part, but the meat goes up and
Speaker 1: in and out and stirred. And bad news is like
Speaker 1: this show you are gone. Good news is you are
Speaker 1: and always have been everything. And if that sounds woo woo,
Speaker 1: I could point to the old Testament. I could point
Speaker 1: to Buddhism, Hinduism and the New Testament and back that up.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's nearly made me cry. Well, that's
Speaker 1: great because that means that means you heard me. It's
Speaker 1: like really good start, it's really you ended on, you
Speaker 1: are everything, but you are you started on? You are
Speaker 1: the void? Did that hit me? Hot? Yeah? That's hot.
Speaker 1: That's that's one of my mantras. I would recommend meditating
Speaker 1: and say I am the void. I am the void.
Speaker 1: You are what you're afraid of, and that's absurd. It's afraid.
Speaker 1: You're afraid of yourself. You can trust yourself. It's you.
Speaker 1: It's you, it's you. It's great, it's great. Now, So
Speaker 1: that is it? Who is that guy? The philosopher? Is it? Philosopher?
Speaker 1: You're starting to the void and at some point the
Speaker 1: void stars back. Yeah, I've I've heard that too. I
Speaker 1: can't recall who said it, but it's like, so you're
Speaker 1: just saying, yeah, that's looking in the mirror exactly, he's
Speaker 1: looking in the mirror. Well, it's basically the idea that
Speaker 1: nothing doesn't exist. That's a good one. Nothing doesn't exist,
Speaker 1: like there is no nothing, and like I have a joke.
Speaker 1: It never really works that well, but I go, you know,
Speaker 1: some of my atheist friends think you die and you
Speaker 1: just become nothing, and I'm going, I'm like, in Buddhism,
Speaker 1: that's called wishful thinking. That means liberation. That means you
Speaker 1: go into the nothing, the big nothing, the no thing.
Speaker 1: You are not an object, you are what other traditions
Speaker 1: would call God. You become no thing. You become beyond objectness,
Speaker 1: beyond thingness. Is that is. And atheists are just like, no,
Speaker 1: by not believing, I'll just get bad. They're like, now
Speaker 1: you have to like go around and around and around
Speaker 1: until you realize that that's what you've always been, or
Speaker 1: whatever however you want to paraphrase it. But when the
Speaker 1: other bit that I do is we're all stuck with
Speaker 1: the big bang, I say thanks for nothing, meaning it's
Speaker 1: just like an explosion and everything is here, and when
Speaker 1: you picture it in a film way, it's like darkness
Speaker 1: and then something explodes. But it's not darkness. It's nothing.
Speaker 1: It's nothing. You can't even picture nothing like you can't
Speaker 1: film it. It's nothing. It is nothingness. And then for
Speaker 1: some reason that nothingness erupts into everything So even if
Speaker 1: you're most of my friends and I love them dearly
Speaker 1: are atheist and an agnostic, and I love them dearly,
Speaker 1: 're not trying to change anyone's mind. I'm saying we're
Speaker 1: all on the same page. Basically, you have nothing erupting
Speaker 1: into everything. I anthropomorphize that nothing energy into something that
Speaker 1: we call God, a metaphor for a mystery, a mystery,
Speaker 1: something we don't understand, something we can't understand, So I
Speaker 1: call it God, You call it nothing. What's the fucking difference?
Speaker 1: Either way, you have nothing erupting into everything, or you
Speaker 1: have God erupting into everything. You have something science can't prove,
Speaker 1: touch taste, photograph. We have no evidence of nothing or
Speaker 1: something you can't see, touch taste, photograph, we have no
Speaker 1: evidence of God. We're all on the same side. No
Speaker 1: one knows what the fuck is going on here. That's
Speaker 1: why my shit is. Get in touch with the God
Speaker 1: and you get quiet, get still, and recognize that there's something.
Speaker 1: There's isness in you. You are the experience of isness.
Speaker 1: You are isness. It is passing through you. It's how
Speaker 1: you're hearing me right now. Well, that's that's your consciousness.
Speaker 1: It's it's hearing, it's absorbing, it's coming into you. That
Speaker 1: is your deepest DNA and that will always be fine.
Speaker 1: Bad news you'll go. And by the way, I understand
Speaker 1: I haven't died, so I don't know, but I did
Speaker 1: haven't experienced a very, very convincing experience where I was like,
Speaker 1: don't worry, you're a lobster. Well I got news, buddy.
Speaker 1: You are dead, you are gone, but you are everything
Speaker 1: I do say the void, and you are in heaven.
Speaker 1: You know what heaven is nothing? Heaven is nothing. It
Speaker 1: is everything and you yeah, and you are. You are
Speaker 1: sugar in some green tea, some green tea. You didn't
Speaker 1: expect that, Yeah, it didn't. And it's not ice. It's hot.
Speaker 1: It's hot in heaven. Surprise, it's not green tea. Literally
Speaker 1: a cafe. Not too much. It's not gonna freak you out.
Speaker 1: Just wait you up. Yes, Heaven, no thing, just a
Speaker 1: little little sprinkle in the caffee, just a little like oh,
Speaker 1: because you're a bit jetlagged. You've just got there. What
Speaker 1: is this place? Yes, and it's filled with your favorite thing.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite thing in the world. Well, it's cheesy,
Speaker 1: but my wife and daughter your wife and daughter are there.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. There's ship lads of them. It's
Speaker 1: water all your wife and it's like they've been closed.
Speaker 1: It's nice and simple. Dad is a bit scary, like
Speaker 1: three running yeah, and they're like Daddy as one. They
Speaker 1: like I like sort of cover you like, yeah, paid,
Speaker 1: it's just like a you know, my favorite other thing,
Speaker 1: angel food cake, very on the nose. I like angel
Speaker 1: food cake. Well, the furniture is made of angel and
Speaker 1: so you can see it, you can eat it, you
Speaker 1: can just sit on it, you can sleep, and it's comfortable.
Speaker 1: It's a good good texture. Yes, but also if you're
Speaker 1: bored in bed, you can just start eating your bed.
Speaker 1: It's great. It's no thing and it's great and it's everything. Anyway,
Speaker 1: when you're there, everyone that's there that there's mostly clones
Speaker 1: of Valin Lela. They are so excited you're there. But
Speaker 1: they want to talk to you about your life. They
Speaker 1: want to talk to about your life through film, because
Speaker 1: you know what they're like, Lely and validably upset Lear
Speaker 1: in particular, always talking about film. You're like, shut up, Leally,
Speaker 1: there are other things anyway. They want to know about film.
Speaker 1: They go what's the first film that you remember seeing?
Speaker 1: Pete Holmes, can I share that? On the document that
Speaker 1: you sent out, it says EG so for example, E two,
Speaker 1: do you have to use a movie that's also two letters?
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's eget? It's a DNA code EG E
Speaker 1: TA B heavy. I'm going to tell you the first
Speaker 1: film that I remember seeing in the theater, and it's
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, which means I've definitely seen loads of movies.
Speaker 1: But the reason why this one stands out is because
Speaker 1: I was in Wooburn, Massachusetts, and my dad and my
Speaker 1: brother and I were going to the movies, and like
Speaker 1: the movie The Squid in the Whale, my family really
Speaker 1: was like two teams. It was my brother and my
Speaker 1: dad and me and my mom. So I was sort
Speaker 1: of with the other side, like the mama's kid is
Speaker 1: with dad and brother. So we're being men, and the
Speaker 1: choice of what movie to see came to me somehow.
Speaker 1: It came to me, and I was like, we're gonna
Speaker 1: see drop Dead Fred. We're gonna see it. I am
Speaker 1: putting down the hammer. We're gonna see drop Dead Fred.
Speaker 1: Because an imaginary friend who's like funny and I think
Speaker 1: British and Randy and wild. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be great and if they they had enjoyed it,
Speaker 1: I would have enjoyed it. But they hated it, so
Speaker 1: they're hate oozed onto me. And then I was filled
Speaker 1: with the shame, shame of making them watch this movie.
Speaker 1: Even my brother sold me out and didn't like Drop
Speaker 1: Dead Fred. You gotta like drop dead Fred. He's looking
Speaker 1: up ladies, skirts and stuff. He's wild. That's exactly what
Speaker 1: little kids want. But yeah, younger brother, he's two years
Speaker 1: older than me, so that's horrible. There's nothing worse than
Speaker 1: sitting with someone who isn't enjoying the film. That's why
Speaker 1: I don't like taking anyone to the cinema. It's not
Speaker 1: worth the risk. I've heard you say that on the part.
Speaker 1: Yeah just go alone. Horrific, Yeah, horrific experience. Because you
Speaker 1: also feel that shame is so weird. It is like
Speaker 1: a feeling like you made it, like you've made this film. Yes,
Speaker 1: and it's not you didn't make you didn't make that film.
Speaker 1: But you feel the shame of like I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: I put you through that. Yes, that's absolutely right. I
Speaker 1: still remember that my dad had his hand on his
Speaker 1: head like this, and dude, without making it too much
Speaker 1: like my show, he is a sexual imaginary friend, like
Speaker 1: he is sort of like the ID, and like I
Speaker 1: was like, I swear, I don't like this stuff because
Speaker 1: he's like, look at that beds titties, and I'm just kiming.
Speaker 1: I'm going like, I don't want to look at any
Speaker 1: birds titties. It was horrible. I would have preferred to
Speaker 1: see in the Exorcist and my dad before that. Here's
Speaker 1: another answer. He was watching Good Fellas in the living
Speaker 1: room and I saw the knife scene with the trunk
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I didn't make that face,
Speaker 1: and you make that face for drop dead Fred. I
Speaker 1: pretended to like Goodfellas for you. Hey, you know what
Speaker 1: your dad was looking in the mirror, and he didn't like.
Speaker 1: He didn't like that. You could see that he was
Speaker 1: looking at himself. There. He was dropped at Fred. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that was a big thing. That was kind
Speaker 1: of it. He felt, if you can see him I
Speaker 1: relate to this film, you'll see him. So he has
Speaker 1: to pretend he's horribly you're shining a mirror to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can I say every time I would come in and
Speaker 1: my dad was watching The Sopranos. He would turn it off,
Speaker 1: not to keep me from seeing it, but to keep
Speaker 1: me from seeing him see it. I swear to you,
Speaker 1: I remember it vividly. Tony's looking at a stripper and
Speaker 1: eating like carrots or something, and my dad was like,
Speaker 1: if that's a sad life, and like turned it off.
Speaker 1: I was like, you, you're forty two minutes deep into
Speaker 1: an hour episode. You're gonna turn it off. Because I
Speaker 1: walked in my dad's still that way, he saw George
Speaker 1: Carlin and he goes, it was great. The first thing
Speaker 1: he said was fuck Oprah, fuck Lance arm Strong, and
Speaker 1: fuck somebody else. And then he went, there's no need
Speaker 1: for that kind of language, like he remembered. He remembered
Speaker 1: he was my dad. I was so I was. I
Speaker 1: was probably twenty five at the time, and I was like,
Speaker 1: thank you, I'm glad we can relate. Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 1: And then he was like, you know, language, we were
Speaker 1: so close to being people. That's really good. What is
Speaker 1: the film that scarty the most? Do you like being
Speaker 1: scared Peeves? Not really? I don't Why is that is that?
Speaker 1: Because you're a big baby? Oh my god, I don't.
Speaker 1: It's just not for me. This isn't my answer. But
Speaker 1: I remember seeing the movie. I walked out of the
Speaker 1: others when they were like, there's a grandma and she
Speaker 1: has bad breath. I was like, baby, I was so
Speaker 1: happy to walk out. I was just like, really, it
Speaker 1: was like Mark Wahberg and Three Kings. I'm sure it is.
Speaker 1: Remember Mark Wahlberg and Three Kings when he gets released
Speaker 1: from the torture, he's so happy, yes, and that's he's like, Hi, Hi, Yes.
Speaker 1: I was that high because I didn't have to ever
Speaker 1: see that grandma. It still haven't. And then there's the
Speaker 1: one where the people knock on the door. It's live
Speaker 1: Tyler is the Strangers, the Strangers, And I watched all
Speaker 1: of the Strangers and I'm like, I wish I hadn't
Speaker 1: seen that. Anytime I'm home alone or in the woods,
Speaker 1: the woods one of God's beautiful gifts, the woods, the
Speaker 1: little cabin in the woods. Never in a film, not anymore,
Speaker 1: not anymore, never in a film. Did you watch it too? No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying woods are never good in a film. No,
Speaker 1: they're never good. No. I The one that scared me
Speaker 1: the most is embarrassing because you'll never have gotten this.
Speaker 1: I promise. I have the hiccups the Fourth Kind, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you why. The Fourth Kind, Yeah,
Speaker 1: alien from about ten years ago. I think it was
Speaker 1: more than ten years ago because I was in New York.
Speaker 1: Well wait, yep, it was more. It was probably fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago, so I was old enough to know better.
Speaker 1: But as I've already said, I don't really see a
Speaker 1: lot of horror movies, and the conceit of the Fourth
Speaker 1: Kind is and I don't mind ruining it because you can.
Speaker 1: It's I don't think it's like a good I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like I never hear anyone talking
Speaker 1: about the Fourth Kind. Let's put it that way. The
Speaker 1: Fourth Kind tells you that it's real. It's telling you
Speaker 1: this is found footage. It's using like bodycams, it's using
Speaker 1: security footage, it's using like cruiser footage, and it's shot
Speaker 1: in a way that you'd think it was a documentary.
Speaker 1: And there's re enactments, but like most of it is
Speaker 1: like VHS footage. And I'm embarrassed it worked. I thought
Speaker 1: it was real because Brett at that age, I was like,
Speaker 1: they can't lie. They can't lie to us. It opens
Speaker 1: with Mira Sorvino. Is that her name? And she's like, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm actress, Mira Sorvino, like talking down the lens, going
Speaker 1: like this is not a movie, this is real, and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there going it is. Mira Sorvino said, it's real.
Speaker 1: And the premise of the movie is not only are
Speaker 1: you going to be abducted, and it shows that you
Speaker 1: probably already have been abducted dozens of times and you
Speaker 1: don't remember. That's what the fourth kind is. The fourth
Speaker 1: kind is an abduction. So I was I had a roommate,
Speaker 1: but I was like, you know, sleeping alone. And every
Speaker 1: night after that movie, I was thinking, I like, these
Speaker 1: weird Sumarian speaking aliens, we're gonna come in and take me.
Speaker 1: And then someone told me it was fake and they
Speaker 1: made fun of me mercilessly, but I didn't even care.
Speaker 1: It was like five comedians were ripping into me for
Speaker 1: being a huge idiot, and all I was thinking, I mean,
Speaker 1: they were being really vicious, and I was smiling ear
Speaker 1: to ear because I was like, thank god, that wasn't real.
Speaker 1: That's the most scared. That's the most scared. I was
Speaker 1: that's nice. I want to see that film. I want
Speaker 1: to say a film with Mira Savina saying hello on
Speaker 1: Mirasavina and what you're about to watch is real well
Speaker 1: that you'd only have to watch the trailer. I believe
Speaker 1: that's the trailer as well. And they looking back there
Speaker 1: are parts. I mean, it would never trick me now
Speaker 1: knowing what we know about movies and stuff, but like
Speaker 1: there's a suicide in it. Someone shoots himself and they
Speaker 1: blur it, and you're like, why would they blur it
Speaker 1: if it was it was like they just show it
Speaker 1: and they blur it like out of respect for the dead.
Speaker 1: It's like pixelated it. Like they did a good job
Speaker 1: to me. I like that, what's the film that my
Speaker 1: you cry tomst and now you a cry? It? Do
Speaker 1: I need to? Usk? Film is one of the ways
Speaker 1: that I cry. It's one of the things I like
Speaker 1: about it is that it helps me to cry. Moonlight
Speaker 1: I can't not cry the entire movie. I cry the
Speaker 1: entire movie without boring you. I think that movie has
Speaker 1: like a divine second meaning, which is we all know
Speaker 1: that there's something that loves us and that we love it,
Speaker 1: and we sort of have to like we resist it,
Speaker 1: we become strong. Shyrone becomes strong and he puts in
Speaker 1: his grills and he gets his gun. No one's ever
Speaker 1: going to hurt him again. And that's our personalities. We
Speaker 1: build up these personalities. But truth in his case, that
Speaker 1: that he's a homosexual. Truth is chasing you. God initiates it,
Speaker 1: beauty and mystery initiates it. If you're called to meditation
Speaker 1: or prayer, you're always seconding, sending the motion. And that
Speaker 1: scene at the end where he's cooking for him, that's love.
Speaker 1: We don't have to say it's God. Love is seducing you.
Speaker 1: Love is cooking for you and sprinkling the cilantro on
Speaker 1: the rice. Why does that scene matter so much? Why
Speaker 1: does the film work when you never see them make love.
Speaker 1: You think it's going to end in like a sex scene.
Speaker 1: You don't need the sex scene. The sex scene is
Speaker 1: him cooking. The sex scene is him looking at him
Speaker 1: and knowing him and touching his hand. And that is
Speaker 1: my belief, is that that truth, your truth on the
Speaker 1: psychological level and also on a cosmic level, is putting
Speaker 1: the good sheets on the bed. It wants you. It's
Speaker 1: something that wants you. It's not a tormentor. It's not
Speaker 1: going to kick you into the into hell for being
Speaker 1: who you were. It's not like that. It wants to
Speaker 1: merge with you. It wants to make love with you, basically,
Speaker 1: and that's what that movie is. So I lose it.
Speaker 1: But then also just on the surface level, when he
Speaker 1: asks what is a I think it's the F word.
Speaker 1: He says, what does that word mean? I'm just losing it.
Speaker 1: I'm losing it. So that movie is definitely one of them.
Speaker 1: That's a very very very good answer. I cry at
Speaker 1: most films the one I remember, and that's true. If
Speaker 1: my heart is open, I'll find something to cry at
Speaker 1: in almost any movie. But Dead Poet Society is the
Speaker 1: first one, because it was Burlington, Massachusetts, and I'm weeping
Speaker 1: at O captain, my captain, and the woman in front
Speaker 1: of me, this birdie Twat turned around and looked at
Speaker 1: me with shame. She gave me the shame look like
Speaker 1: get a hole of yourself. And I wish I had
Speaker 1: her home, and I wish I had her home address
Speaker 1: just so I could send her a vase full of
Speaker 1: dog shit, like whose shames? I must have been eleven
Speaker 1: twelve Her look seemed to say, you're too young to
Speaker 1: even get this. I'm like, this movie's people my age.
Speaker 1: I get this better than you get it. Like it
Speaker 1: was a rough one. I'm sorry, And Matrix revolutions. I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding, so many shamed visits to the cinemas. I
Speaker 1: know what is? What is the film that you love?
Speaker 1: It is not critically acclaimed, most people don't like it,
Speaker 1: but you think those people are wrong and dumb and
Speaker 1: you hate them. I don't know, I should have looked
Speaker 1: it up, but I'm assuming the movie Lucy is not
Speaker 1: critically acclaimed. I love Lucy, and you're right, Lucy is
Speaker 1: a mixed bag and a lot I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people that hate Lucy and they're idiots and they're dumb.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lucy. So what all the side sort of
Speaker 1: like whatever? You these sidebars, these little spiritual sidebars I have.
Speaker 1: That's what that movie is. When you realize that the
Speaker 1: sap in a tree is moving up, which it is,
Speaker 1: it moves against gravity. When you realize that a spring
Speaker 1: is moving up a mountain to come down the mountain
Speaker 1: like these insane world we live in. When she talks
Speaker 1: about remembering the taste of her Mother's Milk. You just
Speaker 1: that movie is imbauted. I'm going to say, imbaute again
Speaker 1: with so much comfort and like if we knew more,
Speaker 1: we would worry less. That's like the point of that movie.
Speaker 1: And I just love watching Scarlett Johansson be so calm.
Speaker 1: You have all the fun of like a like what
Speaker 1: was that Nobody movies like Nobody, the ass kicking guy
Speaker 1: who never gets shot, you know nobody, But you get
Speaker 1: that with like metaphysical sprinklings, and I think a stylized
Speaker 1: direction that is really effective. I really like that film
Speaker 1: you get. Do you know what? You get ten points
Speaker 1: for that? The first answer you give given it squid weirdly,
Speaker 1: what is the what is the film that you used
Speaker 1: to you loved it very much and then you bought
Speaker 1: it recently and you don't love it anymore. And that
Speaker 1: might be completely personal reasons, or something's changed in your life.
Speaker 1: What is that? Family? And why? I'm glad you said
Speaker 1: it could be personal reasons, because I think Field of
Speaker 1: Dreams may still be a good movie. But here's what
Speaker 1: I just tried to rewatch it. Here's what I didn't
Speaker 1: like about it or what felt very nineties about it? Right,
Speaker 1: if you made a movie now about a guy who
Speaker 1: makes a baseball field and ghosts show up. When those
Speaker 1: ghosts show up, the first thing a modern twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one audience who would want to know is like, how
Speaker 1: did you get here? Where were you? Where have you been?
Speaker 1: What do you think is happening? Like? How do we
Speaker 1: replicate it? Is it science? Is this a worm hole?
Speaker 1: Is there a fold in the dimensions and in field
Speaker 1: of dreams? Hes a baseball field? Yes, friends of all.
Speaker 1: It doesn't show him looking up how the dimensions of
Speaker 1: the baseball field. He just knows how to do it.
Speaker 1: We would want the Google scene you're missing. You're like,
Speaker 1: there's not enough admin. I want it to feel I
Speaker 1: wants some admin. Is that a real term? Is now
Speaker 1: he wants I didn't know if it was a writer's
Speaker 1: room term. I want more pipe of how we do.
Speaker 1: But in the movie he makes the field, then there's
Speaker 1: sort of an arbitrary waiting where it's Christmas and he's
Speaker 1: literally looking out the window and he's like shoreless Joe,
Speaker 1: where yeah, buddy, And you'd think something might happen in
Speaker 1: his life or in him that would change, that would
Speaker 1: make the ghost show up. But it really was just waiting,
Speaker 1: like it was just like just wait, maybe that's fine.
Speaker 1: Shoeless Joe does show up. It's like one of those
Speaker 1: trailers you could cut as a horror as a horror trailer, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he built a field and then a ghost shows up.
Speaker 1: And when the ghost shows up, the wife character says,
Speaker 1: this is what she says Brett to the arrival of
Speaker 1: a ghost and even worse as predicted from a voice.
Speaker 1: So like this is now confirmed as real. Your husband
Speaker 1: is communicating with the other side and there's a ghoul
Speaker 1: on your lawn. She says, I'll put on some coffee.
Speaker 1: Then he goes out and all they do is play baseball.
Speaker 1: He just starts pitching baseballs to him. And the way
Speaker 1: that the movie addresses the absurdity of what's happening is
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner, our parents, Brendan Fraser, Kevin Costner is pitching
Speaker 1: the ball and he goes, I'm pitching to shoeless Joe Jackson.
Speaker 1: That's how they address it. And all I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it's a bad movie. I'm saying what makes
Speaker 1: it feel dated and what made me not enjoy it
Speaker 1: was that it's not doing what modern films do, which
Speaker 1: is when something supernatural happens, they play it for real.
Speaker 1: In this movie, they were like, look, we gotta get
Speaker 1: to the better stuff. We can't have a thirty minute
Speaker 1: sequence of him being like, wait, do you remember how
Speaker 1: you got here? Like why are you the age you
Speaker 1: were when you played baseball not the age you were
Speaker 1: when you died? Like are you frightened? And she just guys,
Speaker 1: I'll put coffee on. She should have said, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here. There's a ghost. Peyt Hoimes.
Speaker 1: I've never done this before. I am taking away the
Speaker 1: ten points I gave you. Those type points are being removed,
Speaker 1: very very you know what. I'm not angry, I'm disappointed,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why, because when you were describing
Speaker 1: it to me, it gave me shivers. And I'm shocked
Speaker 1: that you because the film, what you just described to
Speaker 1: me and what I remember of it, it is all
Speaker 1: the divine, is all the things. The reason she says
Speaker 1: up at coffee and the reason he doesn't ask questions
Speaker 1: is because he's had this voice, he's had this vision,
Speaker 1: he's had this thing. It's like a dream. If he
Speaker 1: if he pushes it. He might wake up and it
Speaker 1: all goes away. They're all living in this fucking divine
Speaker 1: space where it's like they believe in this thing, but
Speaker 1: they're also are we mad to believe in this thing?
Speaker 1: And then the thing starts happening, and it's like, of
Speaker 1: course they don't poke it and ask questions because it
Speaker 1: might go away. They might are we insane. It's like,
Speaker 1: I'll put coffee on you go out there and you
Speaker 1: play with him. Don't It's like, don't ask questions. Like
Speaker 1: he's a baseball player and he's coming in thing and
Speaker 1: he looks freaked out. No one knows what the fuck's
Speaker 1: going on. Un the less, fucking just like, keep it,
Speaker 1: keep it, keep it safe over here, and it's like
Speaker 1: a dream that's don't waste. Like a dream. If we
Speaker 1: if we go, well, if we ask something, you're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna go, He's gonna go. I look, I'm not
Speaker 1: married to my opinion because everything you said made perfect
Speaker 1: sense to me, and I'm not saying that to try
Speaker 1: and get those ten points back, although I would. I
Speaker 1: also want to say that it's one of those movies
Speaker 1: that my dad likes. So I was watching it with
Speaker 1: a chip on my shoulder, so that could be it. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna don't know you could. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: three points back for acknowledging that, and I'm sorry, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't like to be compatitiative. I'm gonna go I'm
Speaker 1: you know what, Now, I'm gonna push back. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go put coffee on. I'm gonna can we do it again,
Speaker 1: Brett can? I'm the director, Now can we just do
Speaker 1: one where you have a moment where you're like and
Speaker 1: someone goes, no, no, no, no, don't don't overthink it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put coffee on. Just just just just go
Speaker 1: see him. Just go out there, just go see him
Speaker 1: a little bit of the Holy friend. What do? What
Speaker 1: do I do? Just just don't know. I can't. I
Speaker 1: heard a voice another. I'm just saying that is the
Speaker 1: more modern way of shooting that same scene with the
Speaker 1: same script. It's happening in her eyes, in Amy Madigan's Amy.
Speaker 1: In her eyes, she's going, fucking now what do I do?
Speaker 1: Put some coffee? She's doing it. It's all there. Pay
Speaker 1: come on good. You are watching there at him. You
Speaker 1: went on a big swee. You watch it in the cinema,
Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm here in the dream.
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. I'm not just agreeing to
Speaker 1: be agreeable. I'm gonna give you one worse. I watched
Speaker 1: it in the sauna and sauna movies I have very
Speaker 1: locally you, isn't it fifteen minutes so right, five zeros,
Speaker 1: I'm watching movies and two chunks and the the TV
Speaker 1: is in the sonna. That's what that is? That little
Speaker 1: crane thing that's the iPad. Stand. Oh, I see, now
Speaker 1: you know. I love health and shit, what's the benefit
Speaker 1: of sitting in this sort of for fifty minutes? I
Speaker 1: love that I get to tell you something that you
Speaker 1: don't know about fitness I do. I'll do I stuff,
Speaker 1: but don't do hot stuff. I also while I do that,
Speaker 1: and then I get into a cold chair, it'll get you,
Speaker 1: get you nice and high. It's proper high. What's happening
Speaker 1: in the fifteen minutes in the sunna? Well, I believe
Speaker 1: it's something like six hundred calories an hour, So it's
Speaker 1: like a workout way. You're just sitting still and watching
Speaker 1: a movie and your heart it's really hard to stay in.
Speaker 1: It's and but if you can get lost in a movie,
Speaker 1: it's easier to sit there. So it's really good for
Speaker 1: your heart. It's really good for toxins, things like mercury,
Speaker 1: things you want to get out of you. That's really helpful. Plus,
Speaker 1: if you're into woo woo stuff, if you have an ailment,
Speaker 1: chances are someone's going to be like getting an infra atsuna.
Speaker 1: So I just get into one before anything's going on.
Speaker 1: But being really hot and then being really cold just
Speaker 1: makes me feel high. I love it. So sorry, we
Speaker 1: argue that's a first document. Sell me this. What is
Speaker 1: the film? Well, that wouldn't feel safe, No, I've never
Speaker 1: what I said Field of Dreams. Valve was like, it's
Speaker 1: it's going to be controversial. She knew he's not gonna
Speaker 1: She knew he's not gonna. Yeah, what is the film
Speaker 1: that means the mice to you? Not necessarily the film
Speaker 1: itself is any good, but the experience you had around
Speaker 1: seeing the film that will always make it special to you.
Speaker 1: P Hines, Okay, I do have two answers, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to give you one and then if you want
Speaker 1: the other one you can have it, because I want
Speaker 1: to respect the format thank you. When I was a
Speaker 1: waiter at Bennigan's, which makes immediate sense if you think
Speaker 1: about my face like you can just see it. I
Speaker 1: was a waiter at Bennigan's. I you used to get
Speaker 1: two holidays off. I believe it was New Year's, Christmas, Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: New Year's Day, New Year's Eve, New Year'sdare was two
Speaker 1: and you had to work two of them and you
Speaker 1: could get two of them off. So I was I
Speaker 1: asked for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Let's say good choices, because
Speaker 1: I don't really like New Year's. Then Jim Gaffigan, who
Speaker 1: had I had opened for him one other time. No,
Speaker 1: I hadn't opened for him ever. I had never met him.
Speaker 1: So I'm a young comedian and Jim Gaffagan is like
Speaker 1: looking for an opener. And my friend Dan Kaufman, another comedian,
Speaker 1: was like, can you open for Jim Gaffigan the weekend
Speaker 1: of New Year's at the Cleveland Improv? And I was like,
Speaker 1: of course, I'm only working at Bennigan's. I was grateful
Speaker 1: for the job. I needed the job, but I'm trying
Speaker 1: to become a comedian. So I said yes, and then
Speaker 1: I called Bennigan's and my manager's name was Matt Neery,
Speaker 1: and I think I left a message saying like, I mean, however,
Speaker 1: sweet I am now times a million, just a sweet
Speaker 1: little baby boy, soft and clammy hand and ruddy cheeked,
Speaker 1: and I'm just calling and I'm like, hey, I'm convinced
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get fired. I'm saying I know I already
Speaker 1: had these dates off, but I need to get new
Speaker 1: years off because it was coming up. And I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I understand. I probably was like, I understand if this
Speaker 1: doesn't work, and panicing, and I left the message, and
Speaker 1: then my wife at the time, my ex wife, and
Speaker 1: I went and saw Lord of the Rings the Two Towers.
Speaker 1: And when I tell you that The Lord of the
Speaker 1: Rings the Two Towers was about a comedian taking a
Speaker 1: weekend and thinking he was going to be fired for it.
Speaker 1: The movie The Lord of the Rings the Two Towers
Speaker 1: was about a comedian in Chicago who worked at Bennigan's
Speaker 1: who thought he might get fired. Every orc was just
Speaker 1: the impending loss of financial security and my job and
Speaker 1: what a fool I was. And the eye of Sauron
Speaker 1: was like you you were giving up a stable gig
Speaker 1: to do this. You probably made one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: dollars at the Cleveland Improv. You're gonna lose money driving there,
Speaker 1: like it's a waste, You're an idiot. The whole movie,
Speaker 1: and I have that ticket stub. I have a frame
Speaker 1: in the house. It's the first ten dollars I ever
Speaker 1: made from stand up And in the frame, not behind
Speaker 1: the glass, but tucked in the frame is the movie
Speaker 1: ticket for the for the Two Towers because it was
Speaker 1: my little Frodo's heroes journey going like as silly as
Speaker 1: it is, and it is, I was doing something. I
Speaker 1: was really scared. I thought I was going to lose
Speaker 1: my job, and he did not fire me. And that's
Speaker 1: why I thanked Matt Neary on my first album, Like
Speaker 1: if you read the liner notes, I think many because
Speaker 1: he didn't fire me and it all worked out. That's
Speaker 1: a nice pete. Isn't that a fun funniest story of
Speaker 1: you going to the cinema not feeling shame. I really
Speaker 1: liked it, thank you. Yeah. The other one is Shakespeare
Speaker 1: in Love because that's the first movie I made out
Speaker 1: with somebody and it was me and the woman first
Speaker 1: time ever, and there's boobies on the screen. And there
Speaker 1: and make. It's like, it's like, what is happening? It's
Speaker 1: I was like a three way. There's Gwyneth and I'm
Speaker 1: actually making out with someone here and my friend Nick
Speaker 1: and I had dinner with Nick not that long ago,
Speaker 1: and we laughed about this. He was sitting next to
Speaker 1: me and I heard him go what do I do?
Speaker 1: But he didn't. He was so uncomfortable there was there
Speaker 1: was someone with Nick. He just was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do because we were going at it.
Speaker 1: We were shaking that first time, first time making out
Speaker 1: in a movie? Yeah, yeah, nice. My first date was
Speaker 1: the movie Shine. I remember that. Jeffrey Row Yeah, not
Speaker 1: as sexy, no, look at him having a breakdown kiss
Speaker 1: make What's what's the film you must relate? Take behind?
Speaker 1: This is gonna make you laugh, I think, because it's
Speaker 1: an absurd answer. But Brett, the film I most related
Speaker 1: too is the Born trilogy. And I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: why I love it. Do you you get it? But
Speaker 1: you can? Yeah? I actually think I did, but please
Speaker 1: tell me. Val was like he's gonna laugh in your
Speaker 1: face that this like soft, amorphous, loud, hilary swank mouth
Speaker 1: comedian is relates to Jason Bourne like Matt Damon Peak,
Speaker 1: Damon kicking ass. Here's here's why, um because Jason Bourne
Speaker 1: is a movie about getting away from your family. It's
Speaker 1: about a lot of things, but it's about getting away
Speaker 1: from your family. So he is raised traumatized by the government.
Speaker 1: He's traumatized by them, like and I love my family.
Speaker 1: They did their best. And there's trauma in any childhood.
Speaker 1: There's it's just heavy. It's just a lot. There's grown
Speaker 1: ups like Greek gods in your house. They're strange and
Speaker 1: they yell and there's weird feelings. So there's that's you
Speaker 1: getting dunk. Can you commit to this? Can you commit
Speaker 1: to this program? I can't dunk? I can't. Can you
Speaker 1: commit to this program? Even sounds like my dad, I
Speaker 1: can't dunk. So he's trained his trauma does to what
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Trauma can often lead to skills.
Speaker 1: I'm a highly sensitive person. Again, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: I love my parents. I'm only going to say that
Speaker 1: that one more time. But because they were unpredictable people,
Speaker 1: I learned to be. I finally tuned instrument. I could
Speaker 1: see a fight coming a mile away. It's where I
Speaker 1: got my sense of humor and I could divert it.
Speaker 1: I spoke Dad, I spoke Mom, I spoke my brother.
Speaker 1: No one else spoke anyone else. I really believe that
Speaker 1: I was interpreting. I was keeping the peace. That's Jason
Speaker 1: Bourne going, I know I can run for forty five
Speaker 1: minutes at this altitude. I know the best place to
Speaker 1: find a gun is in the cabin of that truck.
Speaker 1: That's the result of trauma. His trauma was training, but
Speaker 1: a lot of us, our radioactive spider bite is suffering
Speaker 1: is some sort of feeling of being out of control,
Speaker 1: especially when you were small. Right. So the rest of
Speaker 1: the movies is him trying to get away from his
Speaker 1: family as they chase him, using the skills he got
Speaker 1: from being with them to avoid them. So it's just
Speaker 1: people in a room with computers going, where is he?
Speaker 1: We gotta get them. That's my mom going, why don't
Speaker 1: you call on Sunday? Why? Why are you coming home
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving? Why are you coming home for Christmas? And
Speaker 1: I'm duck and I'm doing comfull. I'm trying to build boundaries,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to meet people, I'm trying to have a
Speaker 1: life on my own and then at the end he
Speaker 1: realizes the only way out is through, and he goes
Speaker 1: back and faces his family. He goes back to the
Speaker 1: scene of his trauma, now having had great love, which
Speaker 1: is Marie. So he was transformed by a great love.
Speaker 1: He was loved for who he grew up to be,
Speaker 1: not who people see him as he was as a child.
Speaker 1: He's loved for who he grew up to be, and
Speaker 1: that love transforms him and empowers him to go back
Speaker 1: to his father, who is like my father, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't kill him. That's the point. He doesn't kill him.
Speaker 1: You have to forgive reality, and you have to forgive
Speaker 1: your tormentors. They were doing what they thought was best,
Speaker 1: or what they thought they needed to do to get love,
Speaker 1: to get security, or whatever it might be. And he
Speaker 1: doesn't kill him. That is the point. We go back
Speaker 1: to our families and we forgive them. Yes, yes, that's
Speaker 1: what I called an ultimate him. That is very good.
Speaker 1: That is very good answer. There's no way I was
Speaker 1: going to laugh in your face for that all made
Speaker 1: sense to me. Good. Speaking of Pete Damon, what's the
Speaker 1: sexiest film you've ever seen? I can't believe you said that,
Speaker 1: because my sexiest film is a damon films, the Martian.
Speaker 1: I can't come without dead Cats, a red sand I
Speaker 1: need one or the other. I need one or the other. Look,
Speaker 1: here's my first answer. Then we'll get to the damon answer.
Speaker 1: And I hope you appreciate it as a comedy man.
Speaker 1: As a comedian, I listen to this podcast, I hear
Speaker 1: people say, hey, two, Mamatumbian. I hear people saying fucking
Speaker 1: oh on the nose, sexy shit, and I'm just going like,
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here. Blue is the warmest color, Like,
Speaker 1: get out of here. I'm not saying that movie doesn't
Speaker 1: turn me on. I'm just saying like that to me.
Speaker 1: My weird answer, and it goes back to when I
Speaker 1: was a kid. Is comedy. Nudity will always have a
Speaker 1: special place interesting in in my bonus because when I
Speaker 1: watched Eto Mama Tambien, I'm like, I don't have a
Speaker 1: best friend. I'm not like a good looking, reckless haired
Speaker 1: boy who's good at soccer and like is charming and
Speaker 1: drinks tequila, and like, I have no entry point to that.
Speaker 1: I'm no entry point to blue is the warmest color.
Speaker 1: I'm no one here. I am no one in that movie.
Speaker 1: Show me that movie. Where's the guy that's going like, hello, ladies,
Speaker 1: like trying too hard, boob shadow, rubber bands on his braces,
Speaker 1: blah blah bah boom, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a best friend like that, and I
Speaker 1: certainly didn't have a three way with a gorgeous older woman.
Speaker 1: That is not reality. My closest way to sex and
Speaker 1: sexuality was comedy, not only because it's how I first
Speaker 1: saw it. Scrooged, I think her nipples are showing. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: do you remember that? And Scrooged, I remember that, but
Speaker 1: I'm I remember it. No if it's not in there,
Speaker 1: because if it's been sensitive, it's in the third act meeting.
Speaker 1: It's towards the end and Bill Murray. So there's me.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm Bill Murray, but as a kid,
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's Bill Murray and there's a beautiful woman
Speaker 1: and they bring her up and it's like a joke.
Speaker 1: How is this a joke? It's just Bonertown. They're going,
Speaker 1: look at her outfit, her nipples are showing. That's the joke.
Speaker 1: I'm at home going there. Probably some of the first
Speaker 1: boobs I ever saw in my life. Not only are
Speaker 1: they boobs, it's sort of like a strip tease. It's
Speaker 1: like kind of visible. That's like like driving me crazy.
Speaker 1: Kentucky Fried movie with the boobs on the shower glass
Speaker 1: naked gun, when he's on the on the on the
Speaker 1: what's it called it? He's on the ledge and he
Speaker 1: reaches over. It's not exactly an appropriate joke. It doesn't
Speaker 1: age well, but it was a bucksom woman. These are
Speaker 1: these are the airplane during the turbulence, just boobies run by.
Speaker 1: So for the weirdest answer, but the most honest answer
Speaker 1: is comedy. Nudity still has like a neural pathway in
Speaker 1: my brain where I'm like, oh my god, because everybody's
Speaker 1: having a good time. Like I can see them like
Speaker 1: discussing the gag and the woman's like in my fantasy
Speaker 1: is like in on it and enjoying it, and even
Speaker 1: that feels fun to me. But I could see myself
Speaker 1: in that situation. I could be Bill Murray. I'm not
Speaker 1: a beautiful Latin boy playing soccer with a with a
Speaker 1: very voluptuous woman. I am like a wise, cracking, sort
Speaker 1: of uncomfortable guy. And comedy boobs were like the first
Speaker 1: boobs that I saw. Comedy Bobs is an excellent I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you seven points. You're back on tent. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to let let's get to the subcategory traveling
Speaker 1: bone is Wariguaydon film fans went cats. I'm just kidding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're only alive in that you went into it. My
Speaker 1: answer is talented, mister Ripley. I know that's I want
Speaker 1: to be clear. I don't think it's troubling to be gay,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But like, as a straight
Speaker 1: person watch I think it's just incredible filmmaking where it
Speaker 1: transcends sexuality. So when I say troubling, it might be
Speaker 1: better to say unexpected. When I watch Damon and Jude
Speaker 1: Law in the Bath sort of playing grab ass and
Speaker 1: like they're both just Greek god bodies, like they're just
Speaker 1: any If they just stood still in a museum, a
Speaker 1: crowd would form, you know what I'm saying. So I'm
Speaker 1: watching it, and every time I watch that movie, Val
Speaker 1: is a real connoisseur of sexual tension, and the sexual
Speaker 1: tension in that scene, I relate to it, and I
Speaker 1: relate to the forbidden love of it, like I find
Speaker 1: that to be unexpected. I don't know if it's troubling,
Speaker 1: but I get you. It's very sexy. Actually, Jude Louis
Speaker 1: is fucking hot. I get it. I get I get
Speaker 1: what you're saying. But Brad, it's you know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's he is catching him. He's catching Matt Damon being
Speaker 1: horny for him, being attracted to him, And as someone
Speaker 1: who grew up in the church and was really, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of traumatized by that, That's how I felt my
Speaker 1: whole life. One of my jokes is I had to
Speaker 1: come out of the closet is straight, because like, admitting
Speaker 1: that you like boobs in the Christian world is still
Speaker 1: pretty naughty. Like it's like you're fucking weirdo, Like it's gross.
Speaker 1: It's like keep that to yourself. And Damon's shame and
Speaker 1: wanting Jude law even though those you know, male bodies
Speaker 1: aren't aren't my you know, cup of tea or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to say. The feeling of the movie I
Speaker 1: get lost in it, and I'm like, I know what
Speaker 1: it's like to sneak a peek at somebody that you're
Speaker 1: really attracted to and you don't want them to know
Speaker 1: because I mean, that's what my whole adolescence felt like,
Speaker 1: because I thought sex was so shameful. But it's also
Speaker 1: really good filmmaking because you are seeing him through Matt
Speaker 1: Damon's eyes, and Matt Damon is obsessed and falling in
Speaker 1: love or lust and you are too that journey and
Speaker 1: not to ruin it. But then when he kills them,
Speaker 1: I mean, that is that's It's the opposite of Moonlight.
Speaker 1: It's like he's resisting the love that's chasing him, and
Speaker 1: so many of us do that. We would rather believe
Speaker 1: bad news than good news. Pete Holmes, objectively, what's the
Speaker 1: greatest film of all time? It might not be your favorite,
Speaker 1: but what is the greatest film of all time? What
Speaker 1: is your greatest? I would say Don't Look Now is
Speaker 1: arguably top three greatest films of all time. I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily want to watch it every day, Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But as a sort of the arts
Speaker 1: of cinema, the Pineglem cinema guy, it doesn't get much better.
Speaker 1: The din'tate mat That is a fucking you know. I
Speaker 1: hate to be an old person saying they don't make
Speaker 1: them like that. Anymore. But they don't make them like
Speaker 1: that anymore. I really, I just feel like you'll relate
Speaker 1: to this. The trend in art of chasing what people
Speaker 1: want is so insane because when you go like, well,
Speaker 1: this was popular, and these franchises were popular, and this
Speaker 1: nostalgia is popular, and this actor is popular, and this
Speaker 1: style of director, and let's put them all together in
Speaker 1: like a can't miss movie. Really makes my dick soft
Speaker 1: because you know what, no one would ever say if
Speaker 1: you got I mean smart people, I mean film loving
Speaker 1: good people, smart people, not dumb dumbs, not like a
Speaker 1: focused group, like real good people, and you said, what
Speaker 1: do you want? What kind of film do you want?
Speaker 1: None of them are ever going to say, Well, Donald Sutherlands,
Speaker 1: as a child, not much happens. He's in Venice and
Speaker 1: he's plagued by the loss giving people. What they don't
Speaker 1: know they want is what art should be. You didn't
Speaker 1: really And you know how I knew what you what
Speaker 1: I didn't know I wanted? It was because I'm paying
Speaker 1: attention to my dreams. I'm paying attention to my subconscious
Speaker 1: I'm in my body, I'm listening to those cold spots
Speaker 1: in my own inner pool I'm having the courage to
Speaker 1: fly a kite into a black hole and I pull
Speaker 1: it back and I go, oh my god, I think
Speaker 1: Donald Sutherland loses a child. Like instead of reverse engineering,
Speaker 1: how do we give them what they already had so
Speaker 1: that we can make sure they buy it again? Is
Speaker 1: fucking shit, fucking shit, And it's always wrong. It's always
Speaker 1: it's always like the thing that is the breakout hit
Speaker 1: at some point it happens in films, and it might
Speaker 1: be a Weston and then everyone guys, oh, we gotta
Speaker 1: make a shit light of Weston's and then the Weston
Speaker 1: dies again, and then the thing that actually is the
Speaker 1: breakout hit was note the thing you were planning, and
Speaker 1: then you just it's just fucking psycho like, right, People
Speaker 1: people like to be surprised. They just didn't think they
Speaker 1: did well. There was a time, you know, I worked
Speaker 1: with Jed, and JEDD's movies were very surprising at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: forty year old Virgin. These like low fi, low status
Speaker 1: anti heroes like Believe It or Not younger listeners. But
Speaker 1: like before the forty year old Virgin comedies were kind
Speaker 1: of like I had a comedy pitch about like two
Speaker 1: guys that go to a school where the ratios all
Speaker 1: fucked up, so there's thirteen girls to every guy. That
Speaker 1: was an idea you would have for a movie in
Speaker 1: the nineties. It'd be like, I think that would be
Speaker 1: a good movie. It's like poly shore Watch Biodome. There's
Speaker 1: like it does not age well. There's like shit in
Speaker 1: there that you're just like, that is not cool. But
Speaker 1: that's what comedies were. It was. It was to say
Speaker 1: grab ass us again. It was like, we're horny and
Speaker 1: you know it, and we're scoring and we were cool guys.
Speaker 1: And then Apatow comes along and he's like, no, this
Speaker 1: guy's never had sex and he's a loser or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm playing with your idea of loser. So then what
Speaker 1: happens after forty year old virgin knocked up super Bad?
Speaker 1: You start seeing Dinner for schmucks. I'm not putting down
Speaker 1: these are earnest people trying to make a great movie,
Speaker 1: but it was chasing a trend. I think some of
Speaker 1: them worked, but then it did start to overstay. It's
Speaker 1: welcome when they were trying to imitate the Apatow model.
Speaker 1: My answer, though, Brett Yes, is there will be blood
Speaker 1: and that's that's my answer. You correct, You are correct,
Speaker 1: You got it right. Correct, No, you're correct. You I
Speaker 1: let you down a puff to see what you would say,
Speaker 1: and you you picked the right film. That's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I movie is so good and it changed changed my life,
Speaker 1: and and and in a country America that only glorifies
Speaker 1: consumerism and achievement, to have a movie that skewers and
Speaker 1: shames and belittles and shines a light on what it's
Speaker 1: like when you're just cutting throats and taking the money
Speaker 1: and actually breaks that character and shows just how sad
Speaker 1: that is, what an achievement, that's giving people something they
Speaker 1: didn't know they want, you know what I mean? It
Speaker 1: just that it got me in touch with my anger.
Speaker 1: He's so mad at Paul Dano's character at Eli, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I think if we're being honest. When
Speaker 1: he's like, aren't you an ambassador of the Holy Spirit?
Speaker 1: Can't you hear my son? I was like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: all sort of feel that way, don't we. Like we
Speaker 1: all have that anger. This is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Forgiving reality is the first forgiveness is like it's it
Speaker 1: is a nightmare at times, it's it's a beautiful and
Speaker 1: it's a nightmare, and it's both. It's holding those two together.
Speaker 1: And here's a guy who just wants to win, just
Speaker 1: wants to make it, make it blow gold everywhere. Like
Speaker 1: when when I can't get a minute to come back
Speaker 1: into my office and work, I hear his voice going like,
Speaker 1: if I don't get to write this screenplay, then it
Speaker 1: can't blow gold everywhere. Like it's the voice of the
Speaker 1: untethered ego, the drive that would literally kill to not
Speaker 1: be a schmuck, to not be a loser. And but
Speaker 1: the fact that it has the honesty. It's like movies
Speaker 1: that show violence but aren't honest about the repercussions of
Speaker 1: violence aren't great. Aren't always great movies. There's there's you know,
Speaker 1: kill Billy and stylized violence. But I'm saying, like real
Speaker 1: movies to me, show a fault, blind ambition and greed
Speaker 1: and then show the consequence of it. He's alone in
Speaker 1: that sad old man sweater killing sort of his only friend,
Speaker 1: you know, like his friend of me. He murders him.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get caught this time, you know, And he
Speaker 1: sits like he sits like he shot himself, like he's
Speaker 1: sat in a diaper and he's so guys finished, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, Come and wipe my bum It's like, yes,
Speaker 1: so of it. The message of that movie is to
Speaker 1: one of them, is having all of your needs met
Speaker 1: or having everything you ever wanted is not the answer.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately there's too many movies, there's too many comedians
Speaker 1: even where the subtext is if you get money, you'll
Speaker 1: be okay. And I just anything that puts a dick
Speaker 1: in that cake is okay by me. Ye degree, give
Speaker 1: me five hundred points. That's right. What's the film that
Speaker 1: you could or have? What's the most I reiver again.
Speaker 1: I am an obsessive movie watcher. I think we've talked
Speaker 1: about we both love Madmen. I've watched the whole of
Speaker 1: Madmen way too many times. But the best answer, and
Speaker 1: I have seven or eight movies written down here, the
Speaker 1: best answer for the movie that I always want to watch,
Speaker 1: meaning I watched it a week ago and I would
Speaker 1: watch it with you this afternoon is about Schmidt. I
Speaker 1: can't stop watching about Schmidt. I think it's perfect. I
Speaker 1: think it's funny, and it helps me makes sense a
Speaker 1: little bit of the world, like it really something. Here's
Speaker 1: what it is. Man is like a lot of times
Speaker 1: I go around. You know how Thorow said the massive
Speaker 1: men lead lives of quiet desperation. Right, Yes, that makes
Speaker 1: me sad and that weight needs expression in art. And
Speaker 1: when I watch that movie, I go like, look, here's
Speaker 1: an ordinary life, but it's filled with If you look closely,
Speaker 1: everything is there. And he learns that when he gives
Speaker 1: the toast at the end of the movie, you see
Speaker 1: that he's learned to love the imperfections. That he stopped
Speaker 1: wanting reality to be something that it's not, and he
Speaker 1: starts loving it for what it is. And it happens
Speaker 1: because of a loss. My homeboy Richard Roy calls that
Speaker 1: falling upward. He falls upward, he loses his wife. I
Speaker 1: don't want to give too many spoilers. That's in the trailer,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. And he just keeps getting broken again and
Speaker 1: again and again, and to quote Leonard Cohen, it's the
Speaker 1: cracks that let the light through. At the end, he
Speaker 1: stops hoping for something else, he stops doing what's expected,
Speaker 1: and he starts waking up to what is and forgiving it.
Speaker 1: You see a man forgiving it. He forgives it and
Speaker 1: we all mother fucking have to forgive reality, and it's
Speaker 1: for you. It's for you to forgive it. That's about Schmidt. Okay,
Speaker 1: very good. You're so British. I'm gonna make you cry.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you cry, salty brit I heard you
Speaker 1: say you don't cry. I'm going for it. I'm actually
Speaker 1: not going for it. But I also just think it's
Speaker 1: a perfectly made movie, really good. What's the what is
Speaker 1: the film? We don't like to be negative, pet, although
Speaker 1: you tried it, you tried it earlier, and I didn't
Speaker 1: like it today, but now it was a leading question.
Speaker 1: It was leading, but I wasn't expecting to feel the
Speaker 1: dreams to get danked on and not on my watch.
Speaker 1: What's the what's the film? What's the worst film you've
Speaker 1: ever seen? I'm gonna I'm gonna say, maybe this is
Speaker 1: a cop out because so many people don't like these movies.
Speaker 1: But the newer, any newer thing, we're Superman's in it.
Speaker 1: I hate it because I don't like that style where
Speaker 1: it's like we're not even trying to look like we're
Speaker 1: not on a green screen. There's just like blue green
Speaker 1: smoke in every scene. Everybody's saying what they are thinking, like,
Speaker 1: there's no subtext, there's no appreciation for how characters and
Speaker 1: human beings actually communicate, which is sometimes you say the
Speaker 1: opposite of what you're thinking or feeling. I mean, pay attention.
Speaker 1: You do that. Everyone does that. You say you love
Speaker 1: something and you hate it, or you say you want
Speaker 1: to do something and you don't want to do it.
Speaker 1: But in those movies, everybody's just expressing their clean, freshly
Speaker 1: fact stan opinion and they say it. Lois Lane is like,
Speaker 1: I'm a hot head reporter and I'm going to chase
Speaker 1: this story and i don't care if you've never seen
Speaker 1: a woman in this position. I'm gonna show you what's what.
Speaker 1: And then she does. And Superman is just not a
Speaker 1: compelling hero. He's invincible. Like we're saying, like, I like wounds.
Speaker 1: I like things that remind us of the way that
Speaker 1: the universe works, and the way the universe works is
Speaker 1: it works with your wounds. It works with your wounds.
Speaker 1: And Superman loses his planet. But fuck off, you were
Speaker 1: a baby and you had a you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you didn't know them. You don't know krypton, and then
Speaker 1: nothing hurts you except kryptonite so it's always kryptonite. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be kryptonite. That's gonna be the twist. But there
Speaker 1: was one little piece of kryptonite, or it's gonna be
Speaker 1: two super invincible people bashing into each other with no steaks.
Speaker 1: This is going to be more controversial. But I have
Speaker 1: the same problem with Harry Potter. It's magic being shot
Speaker 1: at magic and you're like, which magic is stronger? It's
Speaker 1: just oh yeah, And I'm like, this is stakeless. This
Speaker 1: is the deaf and shidnt of nonsense. Like I'm not
Speaker 1: saying those are bad movies, but Superman is just two
Speaker 1: impenetrable things trying to penetrate each other to waste the time. Look,
Speaker 1: I say I hate cgi hates it unless I don't
Speaker 1: know this is it, and then I'm impressed by it. Wilson,
Speaker 1: the volleyball, that's a reference for Vale. She's going to
Speaker 1: listen to this, She'll know what I mean. Make me
Speaker 1: care about a volleyball, don't make me not care about
Speaker 1: a city. That's what. That's the magic of cinema that
Speaker 1: we care about tokens like we care about them. We
Speaker 1: again to say ambute, we imbute them with meaning. What now, Pehimes,
Speaker 1: you're in comedy, you're a comedian, you're very funny. What's
Speaker 1: the film that made you laughed the most? Here's two
Speaker 1: things I'm not. I'm not a guy who gets stoned
Speaker 1: a lot and watches movies. I actually think it ruins them.
Speaker 1: And I, oh, I forget what the other one was.
Speaker 1: But oh, I also don't like bad movies. You know
Speaker 1: how people like bad movie like I've seen The Room.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I prefer the disaster Artists. I like the
Speaker 1: movie about the movie. But Kungpow foot fist Way. If
Speaker 1: you're stoned and you don't know what it is, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I still don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I saw it and I still don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: Val and I watched it and I got stoned, and
Speaker 1: I it's so confusing and strange. You stopped trying to
Speaker 1: understand it and you just let it happen that he's
Speaker 1: fighting a baby, and you just I just started weeping
Speaker 1: with like healing laughter. I was like, they've done it.
Speaker 1: They figured out what's funny, and it's Kung foot fist Way.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure everybody says borat. That was my sober
Speaker 1: hardest laugh was Borat in the theaters. But kungkow foot
Speaker 1: fist way really good, Pims. You've been wonderful, of course
Speaker 1: you have. No one expected anything less from you. However,
Speaker 1: when you were trying to save some dead cats and
Speaker 1: you covered yourself in in moisturizing cream, Buddy or loop,
Speaker 1: and you went through a hole in the wool, and
Speaker 1: he put clamps on your nipples and stats into the
Speaker 1: size of the beds, and then you've got a boner,
Speaker 1: and then you the aneurism made me jeers. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: then you had an anneurism for no good reason, and
Speaker 1: then you jeers, and then you were dead and surrounded
Speaker 1: by dead cats. I'm passing by with a coffin, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wonder what Pete's up to. I think
Speaker 1: he's in town doing a show. I think he's staying
Speaker 1: in this motel. I knock on the door, Pete, Pete.
Speaker 1: He's very quiet, kind, even here cats me having He's
Speaker 1: always got cats with him. I've knocked down the door.
Speaker 1: There you are. I'm not the first one there. There's
Speaker 1: lads and lads of press in the room. They're just
Speaker 1: taking pictures like I didn't listen. I know what it
Speaker 1: looks like. I know this guy, trust me, trust me,
Speaker 1: he was trying to save these cats. I'm sure this
Speaker 1: is just a terrible tragedy to get out of here, guys,
Speaker 1: and I put you in the coffin, but I also
Speaker 1: put all the dead cats in there with you, because
Speaker 1: I know that's what you'd want. Of course, I want
Speaker 1: you to enjoy coming for the rest of eternity. And
Speaker 1: who you press a button saying something happens, and I
Speaker 1: have quarters half dollars on my eyes, and they have
Speaker 1: dime yeah in their eyes. Yeah yeah, and yeah, and
Speaker 1: your bonu is still there, which makes something dificult. I
Speaker 1: have to chop off your bonu and put it just
Speaker 1: mix it up with the dead cats. Anyway, coffin is
Speaker 1: absolutely packed bonus dead cats in you and the nipple
Speaker 1: clamps of course industrial strength. And I'm strung. Yeah, only
Speaker 1: enough room in this coffin to put one DVD into
Speaker 1: the side. Jam it in the side for you to
Speaker 1: take across to the other side. And on the other side,
Speaker 1: there is no thing. There's movie night every night, and
Speaker 1: one night it's your movie night. What film are you taking?
Speaker 1: The show? Everyone? When it's your movie night, Pete Himes.
Speaker 1: You know that's interesting. I think the DVD that cleans
Speaker 1: the lens, you know that one the little brush and
Speaker 1: you here because I'm there to help everyone watch their movies.
Speaker 1: Very kinds. I actually, you know, it's not the movie
Speaker 1: that I would want to show in the noting Other
Speaker 1: life or whatever, but the movie that has the most
Speaker 1: bob or or like. It's just like a relic. Like
Speaker 1: I consider like a DVD of this movie to be
Speaker 1: like a holy item. Is the documentary Into Great Silence.
Speaker 1: You have to say it carefully because it sounds like
Speaker 1: into Great Silence, Into Great Silence. It's where these French
Speaker 1: filmmakers had access to this monastery that they had never
Speaker 1: given access to, and it is you can't watch it,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, especially if it's in the theater, which
Speaker 1: I've never had the pleasure, but I've you know, turned
Speaker 1: the lights off and did my best. It just is
Speaker 1: the feeling of when someone reminds you that this is it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It slows you down to
Speaker 1: the point where you feel like you're underwater and there's
Speaker 1: asmr in it. There's like cutting felt robes with big
Speaker 1: shears and there's like making soup, and it's just like
Speaker 1: monks looking out a stone window just watching the sunrise.
Speaker 1: There's no story, there's nothing. It shows them shoveling snow.
Speaker 1: But if you see someone who's present shoveling the snow,
Speaker 1: who knows that that's all they're doing, is shoveling snow,
Speaker 1: shoveling snow is enough to convert you or help you.
Speaker 1: I don't mean convert to a religion, I mean transform you.
Speaker 1: I mean it's enough to make you go as I
Speaker 1: hope you are talking to me, and I hope is
Speaker 1: everyone listening? This is it, This is it, and it's enough,
Speaker 1: and it's enough. Not what am I going to listen
Speaker 1: to after this? What? Not? What am I going to
Speaker 1: eat after this? Not how much sleep am I going
Speaker 1: to get tonight? But just dropping anchor in this and
Speaker 1: the Great Eckartley says, how you feel right now is
Speaker 1: how you feel about your life. We think it's like
Speaker 1: this summary, like we're going to do all these cool
Speaker 1: things and at the end we'll look at the summary,
Speaker 1: like the recap, the season recap, and go that was
Speaker 1: a good life. Fuck that shit. It's just this how
Speaker 1: you feel right now? Is how you feel about your life,
Speaker 1: and a movie like that will make you feel beautiful
Speaker 1: just washing the dishes. Well, are they going to have
Speaker 1: a lovely time movie? It is lovely being avoid looking
Speaker 1: into your avoid? Is there anything you would like to
Speaker 1: tell people to look out for or listen to or
Speaker 1: what to lasso? Season two? Now, can Nate have an Android? Now?
Speaker 1: Can he? Now that he's wicked and android? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: and of course he has Yeah. Now that he's bad,
Speaker 1: he has to have a Google phone. Um, well, Smallwood
Speaker 1: will be out. Um. But I always like to draw
Speaker 1: people listen to Brett's episode of my podcast, one of
Speaker 1: the best ghost stories we've ever had on the show.
Speaker 1: These podcast is really really brilliant. If you haven't listened
Speaker 1: to it, I highly recommend it. That's that's what I'd
Speaker 1: like to promote. But specifically your episode is a great
Speaker 1: place to start because I already like you and that's
Speaker 1: a that's a fun side of you. God bless you,
Speaker 1: Pete Himes. You've been a joy. Thank you to have
Speaker 1: a wonderful noting death. Take care. So was episode one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one. I hope you enjoyed it very much.
Speaker 1: Head over to Patreon dot com forwards. Last Brett gold
Speaker 1: Seem for the extra thirty minutes of chat seekers and
Speaker 1: video with Pete. Go to Apple Podcast gives a five star,
Speaker 1: writing but right about the film that means the most
Speaker 1: of you and why it's lovely to read, it helps numbers,
Speaker 1: et cetera. It's very much appreciated. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: to Pete for doing the show. Thanks to Scrubious pipping
Speaker 1: the distraction pieces of network. Thanks to Buddy Peace for
Speaker 1: producing it. Thanks to ACAS for hosting it. Thanks to
Speaker 1: Adam Richardon for the graphics. Please Alliden for the photography.
Speaker 1: Thank you all very much for listening, and I hope
Speaker 1: everything is great with you all out there. Come and
Speaker 1: join me next week for another smasher of a guest,
Speaker 1: and I'm not telling you who it is. It's a
Speaker 1: big one. So that is it for now. In the meantime,
Speaker 1: I hope you will have a lovely week and please
Speaker 1: now more than ever, be excellent to each other. By
Speaker 1: pros