WEBVTT - Do Not Pet The Butt Sniffer

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong and Getty enough.

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<v Speaker 1>He Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Dramatic new video shows Good samaritans confronting an alleged knife

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<v Speaker 3>wielding suspect outside of Michigan Walmart, just moments after police

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<v Speaker 3>say he went on a stabbing spree, targeting people at random.

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<v Speaker 3>Police identifying the suspect as forty two year old Bradford

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<v Speaker 3>James Gilly, saying he entered the store in Traverse City

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<v Speaker 3>just before five pm on Saturday and began attacking people,

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<v Speaker 3>starting near the checkout area with his folding knife that

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<v Speaker 3>has a three.

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<v Speaker 2>And a half inch blade. Gilly now facing terrorism charges.

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<v Speaker 2>I have that very knife. He's a job.

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<v Speaker 4>Bobby stabbed a bunch of people. But for people who

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<v Speaker 4>lean right and pro Second Amendment, it bothered many of

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<v Speaker 4>us that the stories didn't include that a good guy

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<v Speaker 4>with a gun was yelling drop the knife, throw it away,

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<v Speaker 4>drop the knife, throw it away. Just he wasn't just

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<v Speaker 4>like randomly apprehended by people yelling at him to put

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<v Speaker 4>away his knife. See, he had stabbed eleven people and

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<v Speaker 4>was trying to stab more. You wouldn't have been able

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<v Speaker 4>to yell at him to get him to throw away.

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<v Speaker 4>Then he threw away the knife because a dude, a

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<v Speaker 4>good dude, a former marine who happened to have a gun,

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<v Speaker 4>was pointing at it and telling him drop the knife.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna shoot you.

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<v Speaker 5>I was shocked that ABC News actually did talk about

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<v Speaker 5>that and even had a quote from the sheriff saying,

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<v Speaker 5>those folks did everything absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't praise them in them.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, I didn't see any reports that included that a

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<v Speaker 4>guy had a gun and did the right thing with it,

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<v Speaker 4>not one.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I say. My mouth was a gape. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>believe it. That's a good thing, among other good things

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<v Speaker 5>that are happening.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Joe Getty's the glasses half full.

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<v Speaker 2>Halfway through that sentence, I decided it needed a name,

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<v Speaker 2>The glasses half full.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of glasses half full?

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<v Speaker 4>Story is I just saw one hundred and seventy million

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<v Speaker 4>people in the country are under a heat watch. That's

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<v Speaker 4>half the population. How about the other half? Where I live,

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<v Speaker 4>it's extraordinarily cool. It's like the coolest it's been in

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<v Speaker 4>thirty years. That's the glasses half full.

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<v Speaker 5>We're loving climate change over here now, Michael, you are

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<v Speaker 5>quick on the draw with the theme song there, even

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<v Speaker 5>though I decided on it mid sentence. Do you have

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<v Speaker 5>the life threatening heat dome song?

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot to handle. I'm still searching for that. We're

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<v Speaker 2>searching for how much wide program, Mike.

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<v Speaker 4>We went to all the work to get a life

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<v Speaker 4>threatening heat dome jingle and we don't have it.

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<v Speaker 5>The heat dome will be over before we ever get

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<v Speaker 5>to use it. We had Elton John and Tim Rice

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<v Speaker 5>write it. We had the uh Disney orchestra that does

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<v Speaker 5>all their movies record it for us. It costs four

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<v Speaker 5>hundred thousand dollars. No, all right, you'll find it anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>So it struck me in preparing the program today that

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<v Speaker 5>there are a lot of things that made me happy,

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<v Speaker 5>which is extraordinarily rare, as most of it's misery and frustration.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've mentioned this a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 5>Ohio has just joined the rising flat tax revolution since

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<v Speaker 5>the middle of twenty one, and I did not know this,

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<v Speaker 5>I think because the media is loath to admit it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you're using a term that I'm not sure everybody

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<v Speaker 4>knows what it is and are excited about it. What

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<v Speaker 4>is a flat tax? Yeah, it actually comes out in

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<v Speaker 4>the next sense or two.

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<v Speaker 5>But so they're the sixth state to revise their tax

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<v Speaker 5>go to adopt a flat tax. That because in Ohio

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<v Speaker 5>became the fifteenth state total to abandon graduated or progressive

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<v Speaker 5>income taxes in favor of the flat rate model. Meaning,

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<v Speaker 5>for instance, in Ohio, a two point seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 5>of your income as income tax doesn't matter if you

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<v Speaker 5>make a little money or a ton of money, because,

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<v Speaker 5>if you know anything about percentages, the more you make,

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<v Speaker 5>the more you pay. It's just the same percentage as

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<v Speaker 5>everybody else. Now why does this matter, Well, it matters

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<v Speaker 5>for a number of reasons. A flat tax levies the

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<v Speaker 5>same income tax rate on every household in business, regardless

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<v Speaker 5>of income. Progressive income tax structures, by contrast, tax different

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<v Speaker 5>income levels at different rates, getting higher and higher as

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<v Speaker 5>your earnings get higher and higher.

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<v Speaker 2>The graduated progressive.

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<v Speaker 5>Model, which is popular among liberals and progressives, creates disincentives

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<v Speaker 5>to earn more, since every dollar gets taxed at a

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<v Speaker 5>higher rate at certain thresholds, and it gets worse. Progressive

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<v Speaker 5>income tax systems like the federal one encourage taxpayers, lobbyists,

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<v Speaker 5>accounting firms, policymakers to push for loopholes, carve outs exceptions

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<v Speaker 5>to offset the progressively higher tax rates. And of course

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<v Speaker 5>those loopholes favor the these masses and the powerless.

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<v Speaker 2>No, of course not.

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<v Speaker 5>They favor the well connected, and they deem some government

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<v Speaker 5>favorite businesses more equal than others to quote orwell, creating

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<v Speaker 5>economic winners and losers.

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<v Speaker 2>Across the tax code. It's just who lobbies the best.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the ultra rich are the ones that can

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<v Speaker 4>take advantage of that. Other people can't. You're just stuck

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<v Speaker 4>right right.

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<v Speaker 5>And because flat tax systems do not impose marginal tax increases,

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<v Speaker 5>they encourage economic activity, investment, higher earnings. The growth generates

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<v Speaker 5>more wealth and more savings. Fixed flat tax rates are

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<v Speaker 5>simple and predictable, so you know without an accountant or

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<v Speaker 5>a tax attorney what you're going to be paying.

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<v Speaker 2>You can fight.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the for verbial figuring out your taxes on a postcard.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm surprised fifteen states have adopted this.

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<v Speaker 4>That you that the other side couldn't demogogue it because

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<v Speaker 4>it's so easy to demagogue.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yes, I mean it has been, but it's easy

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<v Speaker 5>to counter demagogue too.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, if I make ten times as much, I will

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<v Speaker 4>pay ten times as much.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got all sorts.

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<v Speaker 4>Of statistics I was going to bring about with the

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<v Speaker 4>new tax laws and stuff, the disproportionate amount of income

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<v Speaker 4>the top, say twenty percent has or ten percent or

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<v Speaker 4>one percent, but they pay even more proportionally in income

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<v Speaker 4>tax and so number one. Of course, they benefit more

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<v Speaker 4>from taxers reform. But to the idea that the rich

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<v Speaker 4>aren't paying their fair share is just absolutely hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's pretty easy to counter demagogue.

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<v Speaker 5>Finally, flat taxes are harder for state legislatures to raise

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<v Speaker 5>without voter approval because voting taxpayers know exactly what percentage

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<v Speaker 5>of their earnings will be siphoned off to the public offers,

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<v Speaker 5>and legislators want to raise that percentage will need to

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<v Speaker 5>justify and explain it to all taxpayers. I've advocated for

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<v Speaker 5>the flat tax or the fair tax, which is just

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<v Speaker 5>a small variation on it for years and years and years,

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<v Speaker 5>and will continue to do so anyway. More good stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Read a great analysis of the Trump administration's deal with

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<v Speaker 5>Columbia University, trying to clean up the university system and

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<v Speaker 5>it's really good and a really good framework. They essentially said,

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<v Speaker 5>you're paying fines for violating the law all these years,

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<v Speaker 5>coming to a settlement, and we're going to keep an

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<v Speaker 5>eye on you. So you got to follow the law

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<v Speaker 5>about racial discrimination and the rest of it going forward.

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<v Speaker 5>Even as Harvard's former president Larry Summers, who was willing

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<v Speaker 5>to concede, this was the best possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Deal Columbia could have hoped to score.

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<v Speaker 4>It's academic autonomy is preserved, the funny string funding streams restored, and.

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<v Speaker 2>All it had to do is stop breaking the law.

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<v Speaker 2>So you go, Donald J. You go with the university full.

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<v Speaker 5>I think some of the negotiations, as Trump's, are unnecessarily abusive,

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<v Speaker 5>but as long as we get to the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And speaking of the good stuff, this also got practically

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<v Speaker 5>zero reporting.

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<v Speaker 2>Happened at the end of last week. Donald J.

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<v Speaker 5>Trump signed an executive order to empower state and local

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<v Speaker 5>governments to remove bums and junkies from the nation's streets.

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<v Speaker 5>The order ending crime and Disorder on America's streets because

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<v Speaker 5>it has.

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<v Speaker 2>To then disorder is a good word. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It directs the Attorney General to quote reverse judicial precedents

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<v Speaker 4>and end consent decrees that have hindered local government's ability

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<v Speaker 4>to commit individuals on the streets who are risked themselves

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<v Speaker 4>and others per White House fact sheet.

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<v Speaker 5>According to document, the order issues a number of other directives,

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<v Speaker 5>including redirecting funding to make sure vagrants causing public disorder

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<v Speaker 5>or who are seriously mentally ill are moved into treatment facilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Gow.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a guy yesterday. We were waiting to get

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<v Speaker 4>into this diner to get pancakes. Who is this guy

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<v Speaker 4>out on the street? Clearly a danger to himself for others.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody was just hoping they didn't catch his eye, and

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<v Speaker 4>he came our direction. What kind of way is that

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<v Speaker 4>to live? I was telling my kids, this stuff makes

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<v Speaker 4>me so angry. It's tell my kids my entire life

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<v Speaker 4>on earth, I never saw one human being like that,

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<v Speaker 4>not one until like fifteen years ago. Now I see

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<v Speaker 4>them every day all day.

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<v Speaker 2>How is that possible?

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<v Speaker 5>So it might have caught your ear the phrase to

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<v Speaker 5>reverse judicial precedents and and consent decrees. How do you

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<v Speaker 5>reverse a judicial precedent? Exactly? Well, according to the document,

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<v Speaker 5>it issues a bunch of directives. The order requires the

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<v Speaker 5>AG to work with the Secretary of Health and Human Services,

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<v Speaker 5>Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, and the Secretary of

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<v Speaker 5>Transportation to prioritize grants for states and municipalities to enforce

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<v Speaker 5>prohibitions on open illicit drug use, urban camping and loitering,

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<v Speaker 5>urban squatting, and track the location of sex offenders. It's

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<v Speaker 5>the old government purse strings, incentives and disincentives. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>love it, but you know, both sides use it. The

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<v Speaker 5>Order redirects funding to ensure that individuals camping on the

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<v Speaker 5>streets and causing public disorder and that are suffering from

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<v Speaker 5>serious mental illness or addiction are moved into treatment centers,

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<v Speaker 5>assisted outpatient treatment and other facilities. Orders discretionary grants for

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<v Speaker 5>substance use disorder prevention, treatment recovery that do not fund

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<v Speaker 5>drug injection sites or I list of drug use. And

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<v Speaker 5>the Order stops sex offenders who receive homelessness assistance from

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<v Speaker 5>being housed with children, allows programs to exclusively house women

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<v Speaker 5>and children.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic. Yeah, I love it. So oh, we've got to

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<v Speaker 2>get to later this hour.

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<v Speaker 4>You said you got some stuff on straightening out, which

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<v Speaker 4>appears to be one of the big stories of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>As I look at my bank of television's starvation in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 4>What's true and what's not true around that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, including one photo I guarantee you've seen highly misleading.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I heard about that one. But we've got to

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<v Speaker 4>get to the Burbank butt sniffer. That's a big story,

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<v Speaker 4>and thank god he has been apprehended. What a weird

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<v Speaker 4>story that's on the way next to here, arm Strong, Hey.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeie, a crime alert tonight from Burbank Police. They've arrested

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<v Speaker 6>a serial sex offender again and they fear many more

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<v Speaker 6>women may have been victimized by this man. His previous

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<v Speaker 6>victims tonight are furious the man keeps being arrested and

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<v Speaker 6>being released.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's really the key to the story. But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to take all the fun out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well we'll do that at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we do. We take the fun out of

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<v Speaker 2>fun stories. So you got this.

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<v Speaker 4>You're just trying to enjoy yourself at the Nordstrom rack

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<v Speaker 4>on a beautiful day in Burbank and get a good

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<v Speaker 4>deal on a named brand good and you turn around

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<v Speaker 4>as a woman and there's somebody crouched bining you smelling

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<v Speaker 4>your buttocks. What's going on there? He's been doing this

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<v Speaker 4>for a while. Thank god for TikTok.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a twenty twenty three TikTok that went viral.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so freaked out when I turned around and

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<v Speaker 2>saw him literally under me.

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<v Speaker 7>A woman confronts a man at a Barnes and Noble

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<v Speaker 7>for getting uncomfortably close seeming to sniff her. What it is?

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<v Speaker 7>That's mikaela whitter. She posted the video frustrated after watching

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<v Speaker 7>him walk around targeting other women. It turns out that

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<v Speaker 7>man Chalice Crowder is a registered sex offender with a

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<v Speaker 7>rap sheet that includes burglary and peeping into people's homes

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<v Speaker 7>with kids inside.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the TikTok video got him in the big trouble

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<v Speaker 4>because you had video evidence of him crouching down behind

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<v Speaker 4>a woman at a Barnes and Noble. He said he

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<v Speaker 4>was trying to tie his shoe. I'll fill any details

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<v Speaker 4>we don't have here. Here's a police and then a victim.

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<v Speaker 8>He eventually worked his way into the women's section, found

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<v Speaker 8>a lone shopper and started hipping some of the same behavior,

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<v Speaker 8>getting close to her uncomfortably close, crouching down as if

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<v Speaker 8>he was trying to buy something or check something out

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<v Speaker 8>or look at something.

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<v Speaker 9>So I've heard up to twenty women, you know, and

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<v Speaker 9>what's happened to them, and they're all scared, and I

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<v Speaker 9>know the feeling.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to suck the fun out of it either.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll let you do that at the appropriate time. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>the obvious point here is guys like this are not

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<v Speaker 5>dangerous until they.

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<v Speaker 4>Are well right, and you aren't going to Apparently you're

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<v Speaker 4>not going to fix him. I mean, he gets out

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<v Speaker 4>of jail for doing this and he goes right back

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<v Speaker 4>to it. I mean, he's got so many parts of

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<v Speaker 4>his brain that don't work right. Even if you've got

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<v Speaker 4>this irresistible urge, I would think to do it the

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<v Speaker 4>sensible part of your brain to think.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I already spent time in jail.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really going to be hard to get a decent job,

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<v Speaker 4>create a good life, find a woman, mary, have kids,

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<v Speaker 4>settle down. If I do this again, you know, with

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<v Speaker 4>a rap sheet already for this. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>as much as i'd like to, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 4>go to the north sort track, crawling my hands and

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<v Speaker 4>knees up behind some woman looking at some shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>And start smelling her.

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<v Speaker 4>Because of You know, I've already seen the consequences of

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<v Speaker 4>my actions. Fund I came across a scientific study about

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of person.

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<v Speaker 2>More on that to come. But he does it anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>He just it's so uncontrollable, or he doesn't get understand

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<v Speaker 4>the consequences or how the whole thing works or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And so he was at he was at the nordstromb

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<v Speaker 4>rat there in Burbank, and some woman yelled at him

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<v Speaker 4>or something like that. When the police get there, he

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<v Speaker 4>had moved across the parking lot to the Walmart. Was

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<v Speaker 4>in the Walmart with a more bargain minded shoppers. But

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if they have the same set. That'd

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<v Speaker 4>be the question to ask him. You know, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>difference in smell between Nordstrom shoppers and Walmart shoppers. Can

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<v Speaker 4>we put this guy on a leash at the airport

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<v Speaker 4>and I haven't looked for bombs or sometimes sniff out bombs,

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<v Speaker 4>or put him at the border, put him to work

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<v Speaker 4>for the DA. Put him on a leash at the airport.

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<v Speaker 4>Do not pet the butt sniff right, combining two things.

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<v Speaker 4>He gets put the little vest on him, do not pet.

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<v Speaker 4>He gets to sniff people, which is his wont but

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<v Speaker 4>he stays out of trouble, earns a living right when

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<v Speaker 4>when on that Katie, you have come in this absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you not get his teeth kicked in when

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<v Speaker 4>you turn around and there's some dude there, That's my

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<v Speaker 4>first thought as he is getting a roundhouse right to

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<v Speaker 4>the side of the head. If I turned around and

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<v Speaker 4>saw that we're not doing this yelling videoing, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just violence. Put him on a leash at the airport,

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<v Speaker 4>have him earn his keep, Convince him that bombs smell

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<v Speaker 4>like hot women's buttocks is or something, whatever you got

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<v Speaker 4>to do to motivate him.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, I'm not sure if that would work. But you're

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<v Speaker 5>thinking outside the box. Are we gonna play the Last Clipper?

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<v Speaker 8>Or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that? Did we? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's the age old story, specifically in New York, LA, Chicago,

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<v Speaker 4>places like that, where people get arrested over and over

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<v Speaker 4>and over again for the same behavior and you let

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<v Speaker 4>them out because like the email we had last hour,

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<v Speaker 4>because you think capitalism is making them do this, or

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<v Speaker 4>some bullets.

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<v Speaker 5>Having witnessed the passing of the three strikes, you're out

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<v Speaker 5>laws in kel Unicornia.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the rescinding of them. More or less.

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<v Speaker 5>The left never argues honestly about a guy like this.

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<v Speaker 5>They'll always say he's going to jail for life, for.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty years or whatever it was for stealing a pack

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<v Speaker 2>of gum.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's for violating the law over and over and

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<v Speaker 5>over again and proving there is no chance that person

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<v Speaker 5>will become a non dangerous, law abiding citizen. We don't

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<v Speaker 5>have to let people commit fifty crimes as a society.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't. It's okay to pass laws that say, once

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<v Speaker 2>you've made it clear you will not follow the law,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get to be in society anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>The butt sniffer has been arrested forty times forty forty

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<v Speaker 4>four zero. How many times does someone have to demonstrate

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<v Speaker 4>that they're not willing to be a functional part of

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<v Speaker 4>society or remove them from society. That's insane. And like

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<v Speaker 4>Joe said, he'll hurt somebody at some point.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, somebody will confront him or try to stop him,

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<v Speaker 5>and he will commit an act of violence, and then

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<v Speaker 5>everybody will be like, oh, he should probably go to jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Put him on a leash at the airport. Joe solved

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<v Speaker 2>it armstrong and getty.

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<v Speaker 10>In an abrupt reversal, Israel cleared the way from more

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<v Speaker 10>aid to Gaza. The military air dropped food and supplies,

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<v Speaker 10>but those palettes are a fraction of what's needed. The

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<v Speaker 10>bulk of the aid is on trucks waiting to go,

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<v Speaker 10>and in what could be a game changer, Israel says

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<v Speaker 10>it will establish secure roots through the war zone, so

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<v Speaker 10>the trucks will no longer be shot at or looted.

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<v Speaker 10>Gaza's misery has shocked the world, and international medical agencies

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<v Speaker 10>says children, especially the poorest and those with special needs,

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<v Speaker 10>are suffering from acute malnutrition.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there were some ugly pictures and videos coming out

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<v Speaker 4>of that story over the weekend. You're paying attention to

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<v Speaker 4>it at all if you're older and you've been following

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<v Speaker 4>the news for a long time. Though, God, I've seen

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<v Speaker 4>those videos and pictures my whole life, oftentimes finding out

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<v Speaker 4>that they're phony or exaggerated or from five years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's going on in this case, but

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<v Speaker 4>I have been misled so many times over the years,

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<v Speaker 4>and I thought it was interesting. I was listening to

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<v Speaker 4>NPR today and they for the I've been saying this

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<v Speaker 4>for months now, the first time I hear a story

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<v Speaker 4>that even hints that Hamas might be bad guys will

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<v Speaker 4>be the first time. On NPA, I mean, they just

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<v Speaker 4>know Israel horrible, horrible human beings. They never say anything

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<v Speaker 4>negative about Hamas ever. But on NPR today they actually

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<v Speaker 4>allowed a spokesman for Israel on saying Israel claims that

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<v Speaker 4>this is not what's happening, that they're trying to distribute

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<v Speaker 4>aid and Hamas won't let them or steals it or

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<v Speaker 4>shoots at them or whatever. And NPR did say we

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<v Speaker 4>cannot confirm this report, but they allowed it on there,

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<v Speaker 4>which actually makes me think that it's more likely to

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<v Speaker 4>be true. The fact that they allowed it on there

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<v Speaker 4>at all.

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<v Speaker 5>Right hilarious that they would use the phrase we cannot

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<v Speaker 5>confirm this report, having breathlessly reported virtually everything that Hamas

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<v Speaker 5>has led them.

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<v Speaker 2>For several point years.

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<v Speaker 5>So there have been a couple of developments lately in

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<v Speaker 5>which Israel said it would pause military activity in some

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<v Speaker 5>densely populated parts of the strip for a chunk of

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<v Speaker 5>the day till further notice to establish safe roots for

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<v Speaker 5>humanitarian a they're trying to get more aid in.

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<v Speaker 2>But that all did little to quiet the charges.

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<v Speaker 5>That Israel has inflicted a famine on Gaza.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, I'm looking at I've seen so many of these videos.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at the video right now from Gaza. No

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<v Speaker 4>matter what, whether it's Israel's shooting at him or and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it is, or Hama shooting at him,

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever it's causing the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like hell on earth to be in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a great awful, a great god.

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<v Speaker 5>If you took in any media or social media over

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<v Speaker 5>the weekend, there's a very very good chance you saw

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<v Speaker 5>the haunting image of a mother in a hyjab holding

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<v Speaker 5>a skeletal child, an eighteen month old boy wearing only

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<v Speaker 5>a diaper, with the spine and his ribs clearly visible

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<v Speaker 5>in his gaunt frame, during the story about how the

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<v Speaker 5>cruel Israelis are starving the people of Gaza. By the way,

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<v Speaker 5>on social media, often the image was accompanied side by

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<v Speaker 5>side with the black and white photograph of a Jewish

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<v Speaker 5>child on the brink of death in one of Hitler's

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<v Speaker 5>death camps. The message clear, of course, the Palestinian boys

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<v Speaker 5>a symbol for mass starvation gripping the people of Gaza.

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<v Speaker 5>The only problem is that the boy and they know

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<v Speaker 5>his name, who appeared on the front page of Britain's

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<v Speaker 5>Daily Express on Wednesday and then on that of the

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<v Speaker 5>New York Times on Friday, was picked up by the BBC, CNN,

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<v Speaker 5>Sky News and countless others. In fact, suffers from a

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<v Speaker 5>muscle disorder and other grave genetic conditions unrelated to starvation.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's according to CNN and the independent investigative journalist

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<v Speaker 5>David Collier. But of course that information will never reach

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<v Speaker 5>the countless people who saw and shared the image, nor

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<v Speaker 5>will the fact that Mohammad's brother, that's the little fellow,

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<v Speaker 5>the God bless his soul.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not making you know, the glossing.

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<v Speaker 4>Over the fact that this poor little lad is clearly

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<v Speaker 4>barely cleaning the life. But anyway, his brothers cropped out

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<v Speaker 4>of the widely circulated image appears healthy, as does his mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>And you might remember a story from I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>we talked about it as a month or so ago.

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<v Speaker 4>All the headlines everywhere were experts predict I forget what

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<v Speaker 4>it was, fifteen thousand dead in the next forty eight

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<v Speaker 4>hours from mass stars starvation, and it just never occurred.

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<v Speaker 4>So just somebody got that story out there, everybody reported it,

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<v Speaker 4>and that never happened. Not that it doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 4>hell on Earth. Like I said, what's your fix for this?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you gonna?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it is apples take charge again. It is

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely awful. But what are what what do you do

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<v Speaker 4>with this situation?

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<v Speaker 5>Do various measures that will feed the people more adequately,

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<v Speaker 5>even if it strengthens Hamas would be the answer from

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<v Speaker 5>the left, and you know intelligence he around the world.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's as simple as that. I'm gonna be let

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<v Speaker 5>me quote a little bit. Matti Friedman wrote a great

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<v Speaker 5>piece for the Free Press, very even handed, and he

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<v Speaker 5>mentions that genuine misery can be put to use by

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<v Speaker 5>practitioners of information warfare. And he makes it clear that

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<v Speaker 5>this is a war. But the truth still matters amid

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<v Speaker 5>the brajualize told by Hamas and its allies.

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<v Speaker 2>How are we to know what is true? As Maddie writes.

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<v Speaker 5>In a Bliss of ideological fiction, how are sane citizens

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<v Speaker 5>in Israel or anywhere else supposed to know what's true

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<v Speaker 5>and to do the right thing. It's not an exaggeration

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<v Speaker 5>to say we're seeing right now, as we're seeing right

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<v Speaker 5>now that the answer to this question can be a

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<v Speaker 5>matter of life and death.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, this has always been a story about the Palestinians

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<v Speaker 4>and Israel about it was hard to know what's true.

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<v Speaker 4>But now in the current information age, and it just

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<v Speaker 4>occurred to me that what it leads me to do

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<v Speaker 4>is ignore it, which is the danger for all these stories,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, not life and death ones, but just political

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<v Speaker 4>story in general. When you can't you don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>to believe, you just go, eh, well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>it's true or not, so you just go on to

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<v Speaker 4>something else, which.

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<v Speaker 5>As an aside, has long been the goal of Soviet

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<v Speaker 5>than Russian disinformation, not to convince us of anything in particular,

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<v Speaker 5>but to make Americans so cynical about knowing the.

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<v Speaker 2>Truth we don't even ask what it is anymore. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>More on that another time, But so Maddie's piece for

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<v Speaker 5>the Free Press. He points out a couple of major

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<v Speaker 5>incidents in this conflict, including the infamous Israeli clearly an

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<v Speaker 5>Israeli rocket attack on the hospital at least five hundred dead.

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<v Speaker 5>The New York Times headline reported that furious protests erupted,

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<v Speaker 5>a mob burned a synagonue in Tunisia story, completely fake,

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<v Speaker 5>misfired Palestinian rocket landed near a hospital, practically no casualties.

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<v Speaker 5>And then he goes into several other examples of that

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<v Speaker 5>sort of misinformation, skipping ahead to the key point.

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<v Speaker 2>Very little of what is reported here, in other words,

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<v Speaker 2>is what it seems.

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<v Speaker 5>This is nothing new, and then he goes over a

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of more examples. The transformation of truth telling institutions

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<v Speaker 5>into ideological megaphones has had a high price for citizens

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<v Speaker 5>and liberal societies and for the institutions themselves, as we're

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<v Speaker 5>seeing at places like Harvard and NPR. The feeling of

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<v Speaker 5>being unmoored from objective reality, of rowing a boat through

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<v Speaker 5>a choppy sea of lies in propagandas is very much

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<v Speaker 5>a feature of the present moment, not only in Israel,

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<v Speaker 5>but one of the most awful prices was made clear

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<v Speaker 5>this past week with reports of acute hunger in Blaza

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<v Speaker 5>in a blizzard of ideological fiction. How are sane citizens

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to know what's actually happening? And what he did

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<v Speaker 5>in this essay which I wish it wasn't quite so long,

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<v Speaker 5>I just read it to you, But he called a

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of different colleagues who he trusts as human beings.

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<v Speaker 5>Veteran journalists, including Israelis involved in covering what was going

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<v Speaker 5>on there, and not like Netan Yahoo loving conservatives.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just concerned with humans.

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<v Speaker 5>It was clear in speaking to them that our polite

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<v Speaker 5>is journalists is only marginally better than that of the

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<v Speaker 5>average citizen. The consensus was that there are nearly no

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<v Speaker 5>trustworthy sources regarding reality in Gaza. Certainly not the quote

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<v Speaker 5>unquote Gaza Health Ministry which answers to Hamas, or Palestinian

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<v Speaker 5>reporters intimidated by Hamas, or the international organizations like the

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<v Speaker 5>UN Refugee Agency UNRAW embroiled in various forms of collaboration

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<v Speaker 5>with Ams. All of the above are engaged in a

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<v Speaker 5>successful information campaign that uses Palestinian suffering, reel and imagine

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<v Speaker 5>to catalyze international anger and tie Israel's hands. And the

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<v Speaker 5>international press isn't the answer, he says. During my years

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<v Speaker 5>as a reporter and editor for the AP, I saw

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<v Speaker 5>coverage altered by Hamas threats to our staff, which the

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<v Speaker 5>AP concealed from our readers. I know firsthand no information

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<v Speaker 5>coming from Gaza can be taken a face value.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, and if you have a lot of reporters, because

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of journalists lean anti Israel anyway, if they're

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<v Speaker 4>if they're predisposed to lean away from Israel anyway, Sure

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<v Speaker 4>you'd go with the threat, and that just for credibility's sake,

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<v Speaker 4>my words, not his. Maddie points out that neither can

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<v Speaker 4>we Israelis trust our own government, which has regularly misled

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<v Speaker 4>the public about the war's progress, as governments do. Speaker

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<v Speaker 4>Johnson responded to the whole starvation and gaza thing yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>As interesting, So I lean way toward Israel's a good

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<v Speaker 4>guy and Gaza slash the Palestinians or the bad guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I lean way that direction.

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<v Speaker 4>But if I was there and saw, you know, Israeli

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<v Speaker 4>ze Israeli soldiers shooting at people trying to get food

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<v Speaker 4>or something, I'd be more than willing to report it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's interesting that that person said it's hard if

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<v Speaker 4>you're on the ground there to figure out what's true

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<v Speaker 4>and what's not here. I don't know where speaker Mike

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<v Speaker 4>Johnson's getting his information, but this is what he said

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<v Speaker 4>about efforts by Israel, with the help of the United

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<v Speaker 4>States and others, to get food to these people.

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<v Speaker 11>Israel since this war began has supplied over ninety four

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<v Speaker 11>thousand truckloads full of food. It's enough food to feed

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<v Speaker 11>two million people for two years trying to get that

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<v Speaker 11>into Gaza. But Hamas has stolen the food a huge amount.

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<v Speaker 11>In fact, in twenty twenty four, the numbers are that

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<v Speaker 11>Hammas profited over five hundred million dollars in stolen food

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<v Speaker 11>aid that was supposed to go to these poor people

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<v Speaker 11>who needed it. That's half of their budget. So this

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<v Speaker 11>is a broken system. The UN needs to work with

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<v Speaker 11>Israel to make sure that the food is getting to

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<v Speaker 11>the people that need it most.

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<v Speaker 2>So for what it's worth.

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<v Speaker 5>The New York Times last week had a story that

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<v Speaker 5>cited two Israeli military officials, didn't specify who they were,

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<v Speaker 5>what rank they were, whatever, saying we have no evidence

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 5>that Hamas steals eight and they went front page with

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 5>that on the New York Times. Wow, most other officials

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 5>in the country would contradict that and say, what the

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<v Speaker 5>f are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the situation.

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<v Speaker 5>We're in people are desperate to get the sort of

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<v Speaker 5>information that backs their pre existing point of view.

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<v Speaker 4>But in this case, you've got an actor in Hamas

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<v Speaker 4>who's demonstrated what they do for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, it would be.

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<v Speaker 4>Shocking if all of a sudden they've decided, Well, I

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<v Speaker 4>know in the past, we've stolen aid and that's how

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<v Speaker 4>we became billionaires. And why all our fighters are, you know, healthy, comfortable,

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<v Speaker 4>of normal weight. They have plenty of ammunition, blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 4>and lots of money, and everybody around us is starving.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that's what we've done for decades, but we

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<v Speaker 4>decided in this particular instance in this war to go

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<v Speaker 4>ahead and distribute food and not steal it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that would be a shocking development, right right.

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<v Speaker 5>So Friedman goes on to write, after saying pointing out

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of examples where the Israeli military misled the media,

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 5>he says he's he's trying desperately to figure out what's

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<v Speaker 5>going on, and he's talking to Palestinian and journalists who

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<v Speaker 5>talked to Palestinians. One such journalists Ohadhimo, the Palestinian affairs

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<v Speaker 5>reporter for Channel twelfth News, the country's most widely watched

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 5>news program, whose report last Wednesday and there's a link,

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<v Speaker 5>was shared widely. Food warehouses serving Hamas fighters are still full,

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<v Speaker 5>he reported, and the crisis wasn't only Israel's fault. So

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<v Speaker 5>it's a complex situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure it is.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't doubt that Israeli soldiers have done things

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<v Speaker 4>that shouldn't be done in a what is becoming near

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<v Speaker 4>total war. But Hamas has been using hospitals and mosques

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<v Speaker 4>as their bases for years. Again, it would be in

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<v Speaker 4>fitting with what they've demonstrated over decades to steal the food.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be completely new behavior to not be stealing

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<v Speaker 4>the food.

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<v Speaker 5>All of this according to every journalist and politician on

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<v Speaker 5>all sides of the question up until very very recently.

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<v Speaker 5>It is you know, I would never gloss over the

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<v Speaker 5>suffering of people, particularly children, the innocent.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think what we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 4>Is an awful, murderous uh Islamist regime which tried to

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<v Speaker 4>slaughter its Jewish neighbor now must be defeated completely, and

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<v Speaker 4>in doing that, innocent people are going to suffer.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a history of warfare.

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<v Speaker 4>You can comment anytime. Text Line four one five two

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<v Speaker 4>nine five kftc.

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<v Speaker 7>Armstrong and Yetti witter Piel's he never should have gotten

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<v Speaker 7>a chance to victimize anyone else. Court documents show he

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<v Speaker 7>was out on parole. With the history of convictions for

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<v Speaker 7>lude conduct dating back to twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 9>It's crazy to think that someone like this, who is

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<v Speaker 9>constantly stalking and boleating these people, is allowed to be

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<v Speaker 9>out and about.

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<v Speaker 7>We took those concerns to police asking why he wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>behind bars.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean, obviously it's frustrating, but we do what we.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to do.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the burbank but sniffer who crawls up behind

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<v Speaker 4>women and sniffs them. He has done this in the

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<v Speaker 4>ended up in jail, was let out of jail. Immediately

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<v Speaker 4>he's at the northsomb rack down low behind a woman

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<v Speaker 4>claiming he was tying his shoes and apparently trying to

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<v Speaker 4>catch the aroma of her hind end.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh boy, yeah, I could have left that on set anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>So this guy gets arrested and turned loose, over and

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<v Speaker 5>over and over again. It's in a funny coincidence. I

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<v Speaker 5>had just come across a study about why some people

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<v Speaker 5>keep making bad decisions even after they're punished. And this,

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<v Speaker 5>this global study that's involved a hell of a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of people identified three distinct decision making types. Sensitive individuals

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<v Speaker 5>who learn from punishment that's normal people. Unaware individuals who

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<v Speaker 5>need explicit instruction, and compulsive individuals who persist and harmful behavior.

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<v Speaker 5>Despite both, I don't deny that we needed a study,

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<v Speaker 5>but this guy's clearly number three. Yes, some people fail

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<v Speaker 5>to connect actions with their consequences, while others understand the

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<v Speaker 5>risks but can't change their behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. So either this guy's got a screw loose.

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<v Speaker 5>And again, I think that we, as human beings make

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<v Speaker 5>a mistake over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>The longer I live, the more I more firmly I

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<v Speaker 2>believe this.

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<v Speaker 5>We make the mistake over and over again, believing that

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 5>other people, all other people see the world as we

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<v Speaker 5>do and process information in the way we process it.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I would like to talk to some ultra progressive,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Berkeley eight types, Madison, wisconsint professors who are

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<v Speaker 5>completely convinced of the progressive boy of the world, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'd just like to get inside their heads and see,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, what color is the sky in your world?

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<v Speaker 5>As the old saying goes, But how does that so?

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<v Speaker 4>So some of yours like stealing from grocery stores, Your

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 4>Madison professor would say, well, capitalism has caused these people

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<v Speaker 4>to struggle blah blah blah. So what's your angle on

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 4>somebody who won't stop getting on their knees and snipping

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:08.399
<v Speaker 4>women's butts. If you put them in jail, you let

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 4>them out, they do it again. That can't be capitalism

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<v Speaker 4>causing that, can it?

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<v Speaker 2>No jerarchy?

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<v Speaker 5>No, So the write up I mean, because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>make any sense if capitalism were just completely at fault

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<v Speaker 5>in an evil system instituted by the evil doers above me,

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 5>blah blah blah. But in executing a certain behavior, I

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 5>just had terrible consequences over and over again. I would

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<v Speaker 5>stop unless I thought I was righting wrong. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>this big write up mentions this research challenges common assumptions

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 5>about human decision making and reveals that punishment resisted behaviors

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<v Speaker 5>stem from specific cognitive deficits, often rather than exclusively moral

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<v Speaker 5>failings or lack of will power.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, I say the study needs to be He was

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<v Speaker 4>at the Nord sim Rak and Burbank, then when he

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<v Speaker 4>got caughty, ran the Walmart and did it. I want

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 4>him to explain, is there a difference between Nordstrom Drack

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 4>women and Walmart women that he knowed?

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<v Speaker 5>My lord, maybe we can get back into this an

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 5>hour four or something like that, because part of me

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 5>suspects that this is progressive do gooders seeking to avoid

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.280
<v Speaker 5>the idea of people taking a responsibility for their actions,

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 5>because that seems to be a big part of the left.

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<v Speaker 5>But even if they're right, what do we do about

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<v Speaker 5>as a society?

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<v Speaker 2>What a nutjob Armstrong and Getty