Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong and Getty enough.
Speaker 1: He Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: Dramatic new video shows Good samaritans confronting an alleged knife
Speaker 3: wielding suspect outside of Michigan Walmart, just moments after police
Speaker 3: say he went on a stabbing spree, targeting people at random.
Speaker 3: Police identifying the suspect as forty two year old Bradford
Speaker 3: James Gilly, saying he entered the store in Traverse City
Speaker 3: just before five pm on Saturday and began attacking people,
Speaker 3: starting near the checkout area with his folding knife that
Speaker 3: has a three.
Speaker 2: And a half inch blade. Gilly now facing terrorism charges.
Speaker 2: I have that very knife. He's a job.
Speaker 4: Bobby stabbed a bunch of people. But for people who
Speaker 4: lean right and pro Second Amendment, it bothered many of
Speaker 4: us that the stories didn't include that a good guy
Speaker 4: with a gun was yelling drop the knife, throw it away,
Speaker 4: drop the knife, throw it away. Just he wasn't just
Speaker 4: like randomly apprehended by people yelling at him to put
Speaker 4: away his knife. See, he had stabbed eleven people and
Speaker 4: was trying to stab more. You wouldn't have been able
Speaker 4: to yell at him to get him to throw away.
Speaker 4: Then he threw away the knife because a dude, a
Speaker 4: good dude, a former marine who happened to have a gun,
Speaker 4: was pointing at it and telling him drop the knife.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna shoot you.
Speaker 5: I was shocked that ABC News actually did talk about
Speaker 5: that and even had a quote from the sheriff saying,
Speaker 5: those folks did everything absolutely right.
Speaker 2: I can't praise them in them.
Speaker 4: Really, I didn't see any reports that included that a
Speaker 4: guy had a gun and did the right thing with it,
Speaker 4: not one.
Speaker 5: Like I say. My mouth was a gape. I couldn't
Speaker 5: believe it. That's a good thing, among other good things
Speaker 5: that are happening.
Speaker 4: It's Joe Getty's the glasses half full.
Speaker 2: Halfway through that sentence, I decided it needed a name,
Speaker 2: The glasses half full.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: One of glasses half full?
Speaker 4: Story is I just saw one hundred and seventy million
Speaker 4: people in the country are under a heat watch. That's
Speaker 4: half the population. How about the other half? Where I live,
Speaker 4: it's extraordinarily cool. It's like the coolest it's been in
Speaker 4: thirty years. That's the glasses half full.
Speaker 5: We're loving climate change over here now, Michael, you are
Speaker 5: quick on the draw with the theme song there, even
Speaker 5: though I decided on it mid sentence. Do you have
Speaker 5: the life threatening heat dome song?
Speaker 2: I forgot to handle. I'm still searching for that. We're
Speaker 2: searching for how much wide program, Mike.
Speaker 4: We went to all the work to get a life
Speaker 4: threatening heat dome jingle and we don't have it.
Speaker 5: The heat dome will be over before we ever get
Speaker 5: to use it. We had Elton John and Tim Rice
Speaker 5: write it. We had the uh Disney orchestra that does
Speaker 5: all their movies record it for us. It costs four
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars. No, all right, you'll find it anyway.
Speaker 5: So it struck me in preparing the program today that
Speaker 5: there are a lot of things that made me happy,
Speaker 5: which is extraordinarily rare, as most of it's misery and frustration.
Speaker 2: But I've mentioned this a couple of times.
Speaker 5: Ohio has just joined the rising flat tax revolution since
Speaker 5: the middle of twenty one, and I did not know this,
Speaker 5: I think because the media is loath to admit it.
Speaker 4: Yes, you're using a term that I'm not sure everybody
Speaker 4: knows what it is and are excited about it. What
Speaker 4: is a flat tax? Yeah, it actually comes out in
Speaker 4: the next sense or two.
Speaker 5: But so they're the sixth state to revise their tax
Speaker 5: go to adopt a flat tax. That because in Ohio
Speaker 5: became the fifteenth state total to abandon graduated or progressive
Speaker 5: income taxes in favor of the flat rate model. Meaning,
Speaker 5: for instance, in Ohio, a two point seventy five percent
Speaker 5: of your income as income tax doesn't matter if you
Speaker 5: make a little money or a ton of money, because,
Speaker 5: if you know anything about percentages, the more you make,
Speaker 5: the more you pay. It's just the same percentage as
Speaker 5: everybody else. Now why does this matter, Well, it matters
Speaker 5: for a number of reasons. A flat tax levies the
Speaker 5: same income tax rate on every household in business, regardless
Speaker 5: of income. Progressive income tax structures, by contrast, tax different
Speaker 5: income levels at different rates, getting higher and higher as
Speaker 5: your earnings get higher and higher.
Speaker 2: The graduated progressive.
Speaker 5: Model, which is popular among liberals and progressives, creates disincentives
Speaker 5: to earn more, since every dollar gets taxed at a
Speaker 5: higher rate at certain thresholds, and it gets worse. Progressive
Speaker 5: income tax systems like the federal one encourage taxpayers, lobbyists,
Speaker 5: accounting firms, policymakers to push for loopholes, carve outs exceptions
Speaker 5: to offset the progressively higher tax rates. And of course
Speaker 5: those loopholes favor the these masses and the powerless.
Speaker 2: No, of course not.
Speaker 5: They favor the well connected, and they deem some government
Speaker 5: favorite businesses more equal than others to quote orwell, creating
Speaker 5: economic winners and losers.
Speaker 2: Across the tax code. It's just who lobbies the best.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the ultra rich are the ones that can
Speaker 4: take advantage of that. Other people can't. You're just stuck
Speaker 4: right right.
Speaker 5: And because flat tax systems do not impose marginal tax increases,
Speaker 5: they encourage economic activity, investment, higher earnings. The growth generates
Speaker 5: more wealth and more savings. Fixed flat tax rates are
Speaker 5: simple and predictable, so you know without an accountant or
Speaker 5: a tax attorney what you're going to be paying.
Speaker 2: You can fight.
Speaker 5: It's the for verbial figuring out your taxes on a postcard.
Speaker 5: I'm surprised fifteen states have adopted this.
Speaker 4: That you that the other side couldn't demogogue it because
Speaker 4: it's so easy to demagogue.
Speaker 5: Well, yes, I mean it has been, but it's easy
Speaker 5: to counter demagogue too.
Speaker 4: Hey, if I make ten times as much, I will
Speaker 4: pay ten times as much.
Speaker 2: I've got all sorts.
Speaker 4: Of statistics I was going to bring about with the
Speaker 4: new tax laws and stuff, the disproportionate amount of income
Speaker 4: the top, say twenty percent has or ten percent or
Speaker 4: one percent, but they pay even more proportionally in income
Speaker 4: tax and so number one. Of course, they benefit more
Speaker 4: from taxers reform. But to the idea that the rich
Speaker 4: aren't paying their fair share is just absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty easy to counter demagogue.
Speaker 5: Finally, flat taxes are harder for state legislatures to raise
Speaker 5: without voter approval because voting taxpayers know exactly what percentage
Speaker 5: of their earnings will be siphoned off to the public offers,
Speaker 5: and legislators want to raise that percentage will need to
Speaker 5: justify and explain it to all taxpayers. I've advocated for
Speaker 5: the flat tax or the fair tax, which is just
Speaker 5: a small variation on it for years and years and years,
Speaker 5: and will continue to do so anyway. More good stuff.
Speaker 5: Read a great analysis of the Trump administration's deal with
Speaker 5: Columbia University, trying to clean up the university system and
Speaker 5: it's really good and a really good framework. They essentially said,
Speaker 5: you're paying fines for violating the law all these years,
Speaker 5: coming to a settlement, and we're going to keep an
Speaker 5: eye on you. So you got to follow the law
Speaker 5: about racial discrimination and the rest of it going forward.
Speaker 5: Even as Harvard's former president Larry Summers, who was willing
Speaker 5: to concede, this was the best possible.
Speaker 2: Deal Columbia could have hoped to score.
Speaker 4: It's academic autonomy is preserved, the funny string funding streams restored, and.
Speaker 2: All it had to do is stop breaking the law.
Speaker 2: So you go, Donald J. You go with the university full.
Speaker 5: I think some of the negotiations, as Trump's, are unnecessarily abusive,
Speaker 5: but as long as we get to the good stuff.
Speaker 5: And speaking of the good stuff, this also got practically
Speaker 5: zero reporting.
Speaker 2: Happened at the end of last week. Donald J.
Speaker 5: Trump signed an executive order to empower state and local
Speaker 5: governments to remove bums and junkies from the nation's streets.
Speaker 5: The order ending crime and Disorder on America's streets because
Speaker 5: it has.
Speaker 2: To then disorder is a good word. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It directs the Attorney General to quote reverse judicial precedents
Speaker 4: and end consent decrees that have hindered local government's ability
Speaker 4: to commit individuals on the streets who are risked themselves
Speaker 4: and others per White House fact sheet.
Speaker 5: According to document, the order issues a number of other directives,
Speaker 5: including redirecting funding to make sure vagrants causing public disorder
Speaker 5: or who are seriously mentally ill are moved into treatment facilities.
Speaker 2: Gow.
Speaker 4: There was a guy yesterday. We were waiting to get
Speaker 4: into this diner to get pancakes. Who is this guy
Speaker 4: out on the street? Clearly a danger to himself for others.
Speaker 4: Everybody was just hoping they didn't catch his eye, and
Speaker 4: he came our direction. What kind of way is that
Speaker 4: to live? I was telling my kids, this stuff makes
Speaker 4: me so angry. It's tell my kids my entire life
Speaker 4: on earth, I never saw one human being like that,
Speaker 4: not one until like fifteen years ago. Now I see
Speaker 4: them every day all day.
Speaker 2: How is that possible?
Speaker 5: So it might have caught your ear the phrase to
Speaker 5: reverse judicial precedents and and consent decrees. How do you
Speaker 5: reverse a judicial precedent? Exactly? Well, according to the document,
Speaker 5: it issues a bunch of directives. The order requires the
Speaker 5: AG to work with the Secretary of Health and Human Services,
Speaker 5: Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, and the Secretary of
Speaker 5: Transportation to prioritize grants for states and municipalities to enforce
Speaker 5: prohibitions on open illicit drug use, urban camping and loitering,
Speaker 5: urban squatting, and track the location of sex offenders. It's
Speaker 5: the old government purse strings, incentives and disincentives. I don't
Speaker 5: love it, but you know, both sides use it. The
Speaker 5: Order redirects funding to ensure that individuals camping on the
Speaker 5: streets and causing public disorder and that are suffering from
Speaker 5: serious mental illness or addiction are moved into treatment centers,
Speaker 5: assisted outpatient treatment and other facilities. Orders discretionary grants for
Speaker 5: substance use disorder prevention, treatment recovery that do not fund
Speaker 5: drug injection sites or I list of drug use. And
Speaker 5: the Order stops sex offenders who receive homelessness assistance from
Speaker 5: being housed with children, allows programs to exclusively house women
Speaker 5: and children.
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Yeah, I love it. So oh, we've got to
Speaker 2: get to later this hour.
Speaker 4: You said you got some stuff on straightening out, which
Speaker 4: appears to be one of the big stories of the day.
Speaker 4: As I look at my bank of television's starvation in Gaza.
Speaker 4: What's true and what's not true around that?
Speaker 5: Yes, including one photo I guarantee you've seen highly misleading.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard about that one. But we've got to
Speaker 4: get to the Burbank butt sniffer. That's a big story,
Speaker 4: and thank god he has been apprehended. What a weird
Speaker 4: story that's on the way next to here, arm Strong, Hey.
Speaker 6: Yeie, a crime alert tonight from Burbank Police. They've arrested
Speaker 6: a serial sex offender again and they fear many more
Speaker 6: women may have been victimized by this man. His previous
Speaker 6: victims tonight are furious the man keeps being arrested and
Speaker 6: being released.
Speaker 4: Well, that's really the key to the story. But I
Speaker 4: don't want to take all the fun out of it.
Speaker 4: Well we'll do that at the end.
Speaker 2: That's what we do. We take the fun out of
Speaker 2: fun stories. So you got this.
Speaker 4: You're just trying to enjoy yourself at the Nordstrom rack
Speaker 4: on a beautiful day in Burbank and get a good
Speaker 4: deal on a named brand good and you turn around
Speaker 4: as a woman and there's somebody crouched bining you smelling
Speaker 4: your buttocks. What's going on there? He's been doing this
Speaker 4: for a while. Thank god for TikTok.
Speaker 7: It's a twenty twenty three TikTok that went viral.
Speaker 2: I was so freaked out when I turned around and
Speaker 2: saw him literally under me.
Speaker 7: A woman confronts a man at a Barnes and Noble
Speaker 7: for getting uncomfortably close seeming to sniff her. What it is?
Speaker 7: That's mikaela whitter. She posted the video frustrated after watching
Speaker 7: him walk around targeting other women. It turns out that
Speaker 7: man Chalice Crowder is a registered sex offender with a
Speaker 7: rap sheet that includes burglary and peeping into people's homes
Speaker 7: with kids inside.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the TikTok video got him in the big trouble
Speaker 4: because you had video evidence of him crouching down behind
Speaker 4: a woman at a Barnes and Noble. He said he
Speaker 4: was trying to tie his shoe. I'll fill any details
Speaker 4: we don't have here. Here's a police and then a victim.
Speaker 8: He eventually worked his way into the women's section, found
Speaker 8: a lone shopper and started hipping some of the same behavior,
Speaker 8: getting close to her uncomfortably close, crouching down as if
Speaker 8: he was trying to buy something or check something out
Speaker 8: or look at something.
Speaker 9: So I've heard up to twenty women, you know, and
Speaker 9: what's happened to them, and they're all scared, and I
Speaker 9: know the feeling.
Speaker 5: I don't want to suck the fun out of it either.
Speaker 5: I'll let you do that at the appropriate time. But yeah,
Speaker 5: the obvious point here is guys like this are not
Speaker 5: dangerous until they.
Speaker 4: Are well right, and you aren't going to Apparently you're
Speaker 4: not going to fix him. I mean, he gets out
Speaker 4: of jail for doing this and he goes right back
Speaker 4: to it. I mean, he's got so many parts of
Speaker 4: his brain that don't work right. Even if you've got
Speaker 4: this irresistible urge, I would think to do it the
Speaker 4: sensible part of your brain to think.
Speaker 2: Look, I already spent time in jail.
Speaker 4: It's really going to be hard to get a decent job,
Speaker 4: create a good life, find a woman, mary, have kids,
Speaker 4: settle down. If I do this again, you know, with
Speaker 4: a rap sheet already for this. So I'm going to
Speaker 4: as much as i'd like to, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: go to the north sort track, crawling my hands and
Speaker 4: knees up behind some woman looking at some shoes.
Speaker 2: And start smelling her.
Speaker 4: Because of You know, I've already seen the consequences of
Speaker 4: my actions. Fund I came across a scientific study about
Speaker 4: that sort of person.
Speaker 2: More on that to come. But he does it anyway.
Speaker 4: He just it's so uncontrollable, or he doesn't get understand
Speaker 4: the consequences or how the whole thing works or whatever.
Speaker 4: And so he was at he was at the nordstromb
Speaker 4: rat there in Burbank, and some woman yelled at him
Speaker 4: or something like that. When the police get there, he
Speaker 4: had moved across the parking lot to the Walmart. Was
Speaker 4: in the Walmart with a more bargain minded shoppers. But
Speaker 4: I don't know if they have the same set. That'd
Speaker 4: be the question to ask him. You know, it's a
Speaker 4: difference in smell between Nordstrom shoppers and Walmart shoppers. Can
Speaker 4: we put this guy on a leash at the airport
Speaker 4: and I haven't looked for bombs or sometimes sniff out bombs,
Speaker 4: or put him at the border, put him to work
Speaker 4: for the DA. Put him on a leash at the airport.
Speaker 4: Do not pet the butt sniff right, combining two things.
Speaker 4: He gets put the little vest on him, do not pet.
Speaker 4: He gets to sniff people, which is his wont but
Speaker 4: he stays out of trouble, earns a living right when
Speaker 4: when on that Katie, you have come in this absolutely not.
Speaker 4: How do you not get his teeth kicked in when
Speaker 4: you turn around and there's some dude there, That's my
Speaker 4: first thought as he is getting a roundhouse right to
Speaker 4: the side of the head. If I turned around and
Speaker 4: saw that we're not doing this yelling videoing, no, I'm
Speaker 4: just violence. Put him on a leash at the airport,
Speaker 4: have him earn his keep, Convince him that bombs smell
Speaker 4: like hot women's buttocks is or something, whatever you got
Speaker 4: to do to motivate him.
Speaker 5: Wow, I'm not sure if that would work. But you're
Speaker 5: thinking outside the box. Are we gonna play the Last Clipper?
Speaker 8: Or no?
Speaker 2: Is that? Did we? Yeah?
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's the age old story, specifically in New York, LA, Chicago,
Speaker 4: places like that, where people get arrested over and over
Speaker 4: and over again for the same behavior and you let
Speaker 4: them out because like the email we had last hour,
Speaker 4: because you think capitalism is making them do this, or
Speaker 4: some bullets.
Speaker 5: Having witnessed the passing of the three strikes, you're out
Speaker 5: laws in kel Unicornia.
Speaker 2: Then the rescinding of them. More or less.
Speaker 5: The left never argues honestly about a guy like this.
Speaker 5: They'll always say he's going to jail for life, for.
Speaker 2: Thirty years or whatever it was for stealing a pack
Speaker 2: of gum.
Speaker 5: No, it's for violating the law over and over and
Speaker 5: over again and proving there is no chance that person
Speaker 5: will become a non dangerous, law abiding citizen. We don't
Speaker 5: have to let people commit fifty crimes as a society.
Speaker 2: We don't. It's okay to pass laws that say, once
Speaker 2: you've made it clear you will not follow the law,
Speaker 2: you don't get to be in society anymore.
Speaker 4: The butt sniffer has been arrested forty times forty forty
Speaker 4: four zero. How many times does someone have to demonstrate
Speaker 4: that they're not willing to be a functional part of
Speaker 4: society or remove them from society. That's insane. And like
Speaker 4: Joe said, he'll hurt somebody at some point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody will confront him or try to stop him,
Speaker 5: and he will commit an act of violence, and then
Speaker 5: everybody will be like, oh, he should probably go to jail.
Speaker 2: Put him on a leash at the airport. Joe solved
Speaker 2: it armstrong and getty.
Speaker 10: In an abrupt reversal, Israel cleared the way from more
Speaker 10: aid to Gaza. The military air dropped food and supplies,
Speaker 10: but those palettes are a fraction of what's needed. The
Speaker 10: bulk of the aid is on trucks waiting to go,
Speaker 10: and in what could be a game changer, Israel says
Speaker 10: it will establish secure roots through the war zone, so
Speaker 10: the trucks will no longer be shot at or looted.
Speaker 10: Gaza's misery has shocked the world, and international medical agencies
Speaker 10: says children, especially the poorest and those with special needs,
Speaker 10: are suffering from acute malnutrition.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there were some ugly pictures and videos coming out
Speaker 4: of that story over the weekend. You're paying attention to
Speaker 4: it at all if you're older and you've been following
Speaker 4: the news for a long time. Though, God, I've seen
Speaker 4: those videos and pictures my whole life, oftentimes finding out
Speaker 4: that they're phony or exaggerated or from five years ago.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on in this case, but
Speaker 4: I have been misled so many times over the years,
Speaker 4: and I thought it was interesting. I was listening to
Speaker 4: NPR today and they for the I've been saying this
Speaker 4: for months now, the first time I hear a story
Speaker 4: that even hints that Hamas might be bad guys will
Speaker 4: be the first time. On NPA, I mean, they just
Speaker 4: know Israel horrible, horrible human beings. They never say anything
Speaker 4: negative about Hamas ever. But on NPR today they actually
Speaker 4: allowed a spokesman for Israel on saying Israel claims that
Speaker 4: this is not what's happening, that they're trying to distribute
Speaker 4: aid and Hamas won't let them or steals it or
Speaker 4: shoots at them or whatever. And NPR did say we
Speaker 4: cannot confirm this report, but they allowed it on there,
Speaker 4: which actually makes me think that it's more likely to
Speaker 4: be true. The fact that they allowed it on there
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 5: Right hilarious that they would use the phrase we cannot
Speaker 5: confirm this report, having breathlessly reported virtually everything that Hamas
Speaker 5: has led them.
Speaker 2: For several point years.
Speaker 5: So there have been a couple of developments lately in
Speaker 5: which Israel said it would pause military activity in some
Speaker 5: densely populated parts of the strip for a chunk of
Speaker 5: the day till further notice to establish safe roots for
Speaker 5: humanitarian a they're trying to get more aid in.
Speaker 2: But that all did little to quiet the charges.
Speaker 5: That Israel has inflicted a famine on Gaza.
Speaker 4: Wow, I'm looking at I've seen so many of these videos.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the video right now from Gaza. No
Speaker 4: matter what, whether it's Israel's shooting at him or and
Speaker 4: I don't think it is, or Hama shooting at him,
Speaker 4: or whatever it's causing the problem.
Speaker 2: It looks like hell on earth to be in Gaza.
Speaker 2: Just a great awful, a great god.
Speaker 5: If you took in any media or social media over
Speaker 5: the weekend, there's a very very good chance you saw
Speaker 5: the haunting image of a mother in a hyjab holding
Speaker 5: a skeletal child, an eighteen month old boy wearing only
Speaker 5: a diaper, with the spine and his ribs clearly visible
Speaker 5: in his gaunt frame, during the story about how the
Speaker 5: cruel Israelis are starving the people of Gaza. By the way,
Speaker 5: on social media, often the image was accompanied side by
Speaker 5: side with the black and white photograph of a Jewish
Speaker 5: child on the brink of death in one of Hitler's
Speaker 5: death camps. The message clear, of course, the Palestinian boys
Speaker 5: a symbol for mass starvation gripping the people of Gaza.
Speaker 5: The only problem is that the boy and they know
Speaker 5: his name, who appeared on the front page of Britain's
Speaker 5: Daily Express on Wednesday and then on that of the
Speaker 5: New York Times on Friday, was picked up by the BBC, CNN,
Speaker 5: Sky News and countless others. In fact, suffers from a
Speaker 5: muscle disorder and other grave genetic conditions unrelated to starvation.
Speaker 5: And that's according to CNN and the independent investigative journalist
Speaker 5: David Collier. But of course that information will never reach
Speaker 5: the countless people who saw and shared the image, nor
Speaker 5: will the fact that Mohammad's brother, that's the little fellow,
Speaker 5: the God bless his soul.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not making you know, the glossing.
Speaker 4: Over the fact that this poor little lad is clearly
Speaker 4: barely cleaning the life. But anyway, his brothers cropped out
Speaker 4: of the widely circulated image appears healthy, as does his mother.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: And you might remember a story from I don't think
Speaker 4: we talked about it as a month or so ago.
Speaker 4: All the headlines everywhere were experts predict I forget what
Speaker 4: it was, fifteen thousand dead in the next forty eight
Speaker 4: hours from mass stars starvation, and it just never occurred.
Speaker 4: So just somebody got that story out there, everybody reported it,
Speaker 4: and that never happened. Not that it doesn't look like
Speaker 4: hell on Earth. Like I said, what's your fix for this?
Speaker 2: What are you gonna?
Speaker 4: I mean it is apples take charge again. It is
Speaker 4: absolutely awful. But what are what what do you do
Speaker 4: with this situation?
Speaker 5: Do various measures that will feed the people more adequately,
Speaker 5: even if it strengthens Hamas would be the answer from
Speaker 5: the left, and you know intelligence he around the world.
Speaker 5: It's it's as simple as that. I'm gonna be let
Speaker 5: me quote a little bit. Matti Friedman wrote a great
Speaker 5: piece for the Free Press, very even handed, and he
Speaker 5: mentions that genuine misery can be put to use by
Speaker 5: practitioners of information warfare. And he makes it clear that
Speaker 5: this is a war. But the truth still matters amid
Speaker 5: the brajualize told by Hamas and its allies.
Speaker 2: How are we to know what is true? As Maddie writes.
Speaker 5: In a Bliss of ideological fiction, how are sane citizens
Speaker 5: in Israel or anywhere else supposed to know what's true
Speaker 5: and to do the right thing. It's not an exaggeration
Speaker 5: to say we're seeing right now, as we're seeing right
Speaker 5: now that the answer to this question can be a
Speaker 5: matter of life and death.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, this has always been a story about the Palestinians
Speaker 4: and Israel about it was hard to know what's true.
Speaker 4: But now in the current information age, and it just
Speaker 4: occurred to me that what it leads me to do
Speaker 4: is ignore it, which is the danger for all these stories,
Speaker 4: I mean, not life and death ones, but just political
Speaker 4: story in general. When you can't you don't know what
Speaker 4: to believe, you just go, eh, well, I don't know
Speaker 4: it's true or not, so you just go on to
Speaker 4: something else, which.
Speaker 5: As an aside, has long been the goal of Soviet
Speaker 5: than Russian disinformation, not to convince us of anything in particular,
Speaker 5: but to make Americans so cynical about knowing the.
Speaker 2: Truth we don't even ask what it is anymore. Anyway.
Speaker 5: More on that another time, But so Maddie's piece for
Speaker 5: the Free Press. He points out a couple of major
Speaker 5: incidents in this conflict, including the infamous Israeli clearly an
Speaker 5: Israeli rocket attack on the hospital at least five hundred dead.
Speaker 5: The New York Times headline reported that furious protests erupted,
Speaker 5: a mob burned a synagonue in Tunisia story, completely fake,
Speaker 5: misfired Palestinian rocket landed near a hospital, practically no casualties.
Speaker 5: And then he goes into several other examples of that
Speaker 5: sort of misinformation, skipping ahead to the key point.
Speaker 2: Very little of what is reported here, in other words,
Speaker 2: is what it seems.
Speaker 5: This is nothing new, and then he goes over a
Speaker 5: bunch of more examples. The transformation of truth telling institutions
Speaker 5: into ideological megaphones has had a high price for citizens
Speaker 5: and liberal societies and for the institutions themselves, as we're
Speaker 5: seeing at places like Harvard and NPR. The feeling of
Speaker 5: being unmoored from objective reality, of rowing a boat through
Speaker 5: a choppy sea of lies in propagandas is very much
Speaker 5: a feature of the present moment, not only in Israel,
Speaker 5: but one of the most awful prices was made clear
Speaker 5: this past week with reports of acute hunger in Blaza
Speaker 5: in a blizzard of ideological fiction. How are sane citizens
Speaker 5: supposed to know what's actually happening? And what he did
Speaker 5: in this essay which I wish it wasn't quite so long,
Speaker 5: I just read it to you, But he called a
Speaker 5: bunch of different colleagues who he trusts as human beings.
Speaker 5: Veteran journalists, including Israelis involved in covering what was going
Speaker 5: on there, and not like Netan Yahoo loving conservatives.
Speaker 2: They're just concerned with humans.
Speaker 5: It was clear in speaking to them that our polite
Speaker 5: is journalists is only marginally better than that of the
Speaker 5: average citizen. The consensus was that there are nearly no
Speaker 5: trustworthy sources regarding reality in Gaza. Certainly not the quote
Speaker 5: unquote Gaza Health Ministry which answers to Hamas, or Palestinian
Speaker 5: reporters intimidated by Hamas, or the international organizations like the
Speaker 5: UN Refugee Agency UNRAW embroiled in various forms of collaboration
Speaker 5: with Ams. All of the above are engaged in a
Speaker 5: successful information campaign that uses Palestinian suffering, reel and imagine
Speaker 5: to catalyze international anger and tie Israel's hands. And the
Speaker 5: international press isn't the answer, he says. During my years
Speaker 5: as a reporter and editor for the AP, I saw
Speaker 5: coverage altered by Hamas threats to our staff, which the
Speaker 5: AP concealed from our readers. I know firsthand no information
Speaker 5: coming from Gaza can be taken a face value.
Speaker 4: Wow, and if you have a lot of reporters, because
Speaker 4: a lot of journalists lean anti Israel anyway, if they're
Speaker 4: if they're predisposed to lean away from Israel anyway, Sure
Speaker 4: you'd go with the threat, and that just for credibility's sake,
Speaker 4: my words, not his. Maddie points out that neither can
Speaker 4: we Israelis trust our own government, which has regularly misled
Speaker 4: the public about the war's progress, as governments do. Speaker
Speaker 4: Johnson responded to the whole starvation and gaza thing yesterday
Speaker 4: and meet the press.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that right after this.
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Speaker 4: As interesting, So I lean way toward Israel's a good
Speaker 4: guy and Gaza slash the Palestinians or the bad guys.
Speaker 2: I lean way that direction.
Speaker 4: But if I was there and saw, you know, Israeli
Speaker 4: ze Israeli soldiers shooting at people trying to get food
Speaker 4: or something, I'd be more than willing to report it.
Speaker 4: But it's interesting that that person said it's hard if
Speaker 4: you're on the ground there to figure out what's true
Speaker 4: and what's not here. I don't know where speaker Mike
Speaker 4: Johnson's getting his information, but this is what he said
Speaker 4: about efforts by Israel, with the help of the United
Speaker 4: States and others, to get food to these people.
Speaker 11: Israel since this war began has supplied over ninety four
Speaker 11: thousand truckloads full of food. It's enough food to feed
Speaker 11: two million people for two years trying to get that
Speaker 11: into Gaza. But Hamas has stolen the food a huge amount.
Speaker 11: In fact, in twenty twenty four, the numbers are that
Speaker 11: Hammas profited over five hundred million dollars in stolen food
Speaker 11: aid that was supposed to go to these poor people
Speaker 11: who needed it. That's half of their budget. So this
Speaker 11: is a broken system. The UN needs to work with
Speaker 11: Israel to make sure that the food is getting to
Speaker 11: the people that need it most.
Speaker 2: So for what it's worth.
Speaker 5: The New York Times last week had a story that
Speaker 5: cited two Israeli military officials, didn't specify who they were,
Speaker 5: what rank they were, whatever, saying we have no evidence
Speaker 5: that Hamas steals eight and they went front page with
Speaker 5: that on the New York Times. Wow, most other officials
Speaker 5: in the country would contradict that and say, what the
Speaker 5: f are you talking about?
Speaker 2: But that's the situation.
Speaker 5: We're in people are desperate to get the sort of
Speaker 5: information that backs their pre existing point of view.
Speaker 4: But in this case, you've got an actor in Hamas
Speaker 4: who's demonstrated what they do for decades.
Speaker 2: So I mean, it would be.
Speaker 4: Shocking if all of a sudden they've decided, Well, I
Speaker 4: know in the past, we've stolen aid and that's how
Speaker 4: we became billionaires. And why all our fighters are, you know, healthy, comfortable,
Speaker 4: of normal weight. They have plenty of ammunition, blah blah blah,
Speaker 4: and lots of money, and everybody around us is starving.
Speaker 4: I know that's what we've done for decades, but we
Speaker 4: decided in this particular instance in this war to go
Speaker 4: ahead and distribute food and not steal it.
Speaker 2: I mean, that would be a shocking development, right right.
Speaker 5: So Friedman goes on to write, after saying pointing out
Speaker 5: a bunch of examples where the Israeli military misled the media,
Speaker 5: he says he's he's trying desperately to figure out what's
Speaker 5: going on, and he's talking to Palestinian and journalists who
Speaker 5: talked to Palestinians. One such journalists Ohadhimo, the Palestinian affairs
Speaker 5: reporter for Channel twelfth News, the country's most widely watched
Speaker 5: news program, whose report last Wednesday and there's a link,
Speaker 5: was shared widely. Food warehouses serving Hamas fighters are still full,
Speaker 5: he reported, and the crisis wasn't only Israel's fault. So
Speaker 5: it's a complex situation.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure it is.
Speaker 4: And I don't doubt that Israeli soldiers have done things
Speaker 4: that shouldn't be done in a what is becoming near
Speaker 4: total war. But Hamas has been using hospitals and mosques
Speaker 4: as their bases for years. Again, it would be in
Speaker 4: fitting with what they've demonstrated over decades to steal the food.
Speaker 4: It would be completely new behavior to not be stealing
Speaker 4: the food.
Speaker 5: All of this according to every journalist and politician on
Speaker 5: all sides of the question up until very very recently.
Speaker 5: It is you know, I would never gloss over the
Speaker 5: suffering of people, particularly children, the innocent.
Speaker 2: But I think what we're seeing.
Speaker 4: Is an awful, murderous uh Islamist regime which tried to
Speaker 4: slaughter its Jewish neighbor now must be defeated completely, and
Speaker 4: in doing that, innocent people are going to suffer.
Speaker 2: That is a history of warfare.
Speaker 4: You can comment anytime. Text Line four one five two
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Speaker 7: Armstrong and Yetti witter Piel's he never should have gotten
Speaker 7: a chance to victimize anyone else. Court documents show he
Speaker 7: was out on parole. With the history of convictions for
Speaker 7: lude conduct dating back to twenty twenty one.
Speaker 9: It's crazy to think that someone like this, who is
Speaker 9: constantly stalking and boleating these people, is allowed to be
Speaker 9: out and about.
Speaker 7: We took those concerns to police asking why he wasn't
Speaker 7: behind bars.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, obviously it's frustrating, but we do what we.
Speaker 2: Need to do.
Speaker 4: This is the burbank but sniffer who crawls up behind
Speaker 4: women and sniffs them. He has done this in the
Speaker 4: ended up in jail, was let out of jail. Immediately
Speaker 4: he's at the northsomb rack down low behind a woman
Speaker 4: claiming he was tying his shoes and apparently trying to
Speaker 4: catch the aroma of her hind end.
Speaker 5: Oh boy, yeah, I could have left that on set anyway.
Speaker 5: So this guy gets arrested and turned loose, over and
Speaker 5: over and over again. It's in a funny coincidence. I
Speaker 5: had just come across a study about why some people
Speaker 5: keep making bad decisions even after they're punished. And this,
Speaker 5: this global study that's involved a hell of a lot
Speaker 5: of people identified three distinct decision making types. Sensitive individuals
Speaker 5: who learn from punishment that's normal people. Unaware individuals who
Speaker 5: need explicit instruction, and compulsive individuals who persist and harmful behavior.
Speaker 5: Despite both, I don't deny that we needed a study,
Speaker 5: but this guy's clearly number three. Yes, some people fail
Speaker 5: to connect actions with their consequences, while others understand the
Speaker 5: risks but can't change their behavior.
Speaker 2: Wow. So either this guy's got a screw loose.
Speaker 5: And again, I think that we, as human beings make
Speaker 5: a mistake over and over again.
Speaker 2: The longer I live, the more I more firmly I
Speaker 2: believe this.
Speaker 5: We make the mistake over and over again, believing that
Speaker 5: other people, all other people see the world as we
Speaker 5: do and process information in the way we process it.
Speaker 5: Like I would like to talk to some ultra progressive,
Speaker 5: you know, Berkeley eight types, Madison, wisconsint professors who are
Speaker 5: completely convinced of the progressive boy of the world, and
Speaker 5: I'd just like to get inside their heads and see,
Speaker 5: you know, what color is the sky in your world?
Speaker 5: As the old saying goes, But how does that so?
Speaker 4: So some of yours like stealing from grocery stores, Your
Speaker 4: Madison professor would say, well, capitalism has caused these people
Speaker 4: to struggle blah blah blah. So what's your angle on
Speaker 4: somebody who won't stop getting on their knees and snipping
Speaker 4: women's butts. If you put them in jail, you let
Speaker 4: them out, they do it again. That can't be capitalism
Speaker 4: causing that, can it?
Speaker 2: No jerarchy?
Speaker 5: No, So the write up I mean, because it doesn't
Speaker 5: make any sense if capitalism were just completely at fault
Speaker 5: in an evil system instituted by the evil doers above me,
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. But in executing a certain behavior, I
Speaker 5: just had terrible consequences over and over again. I would
Speaker 5: stop unless I thought I was righting wrong. But anyway,
Speaker 5: this big write up mentions this research challenges common assumptions
Speaker 5: about human decision making and reveals that punishment resisted behaviors
Speaker 5: stem from specific cognitive deficits, often rather than exclusively moral
Speaker 5: failings or lack of will power.
Speaker 4: Again, I say the study needs to be He was
Speaker 4: at the Nord sim Rak and Burbank, then when he
Speaker 4: got caughty, ran the Walmart and did it. I want
Speaker 4: him to explain, is there a difference between Nordstrom Drack
Speaker 4: women and Walmart women that he knowed?
Speaker 5: My lord, maybe we can get back into this an
Speaker 5: hour four or something like that, because part of me
Speaker 5: suspects that this is progressive do gooders seeking to avoid
Speaker 5: the idea of people taking a responsibility for their actions,
Speaker 5: because that seems to be a big part of the left.
Speaker 5: But even if they're right, what do we do about
Speaker 5: as a society?
Speaker 2: What a nutjob Armstrong and Getty