1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong and Getty enough. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: He Armstrong and Getty. 5 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: Dramatic new video shows Good samaritans confronting an alleged knife 6 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: wielding suspect outside of Michigan Walmart, just moments after police 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: say he went on a stabbing spree, targeting people at random. 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 3: Police identifying the suspect as forty two year old Bradford 9 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: James Gilly, saying he entered the store in Traverse City 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: just before five pm on Saturday and began attacking people, 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: starting near the checkout area with his folding knife that 12 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: has a three. 13 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: And a half inch blade. Gilly now facing terrorism charges. 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: I have that very knife. He's a job. 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 4: Bobby stabbed a bunch of people. But for people who 16 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 4: lean right and pro Second Amendment, it bothered many of 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: us that the stories didn't include that a good guy 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 4: with a gun was yelling drop the knife, throw it away, 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 4: drop the knife, throw it away. Just he wasn't just 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 4: like randomly apprehended by people yelling at him to put 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: away his knife. See, he had stabbed eleven people and 22 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 4: was trying to stab more. You wouldn't have been able 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: to yell at him to get him to throw away. 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 4: Then he threw away the knife because a dude, a 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 4: good dude, a former marine who happened to have a gun, 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 4: was pointing at it and telling him drop the knife. 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna shoot you. 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 5: I was shocked that ABC News actually did talk about 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 5: that and even had a quote from the sheriff saying, 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 5: those folks did everything absolutely right. 31 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: I can't praise them in them. 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: Really, I didn't see any reports that included that a 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: guy had a gun and did the right thing with it, 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: not one. 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 5: Like I say. My mouth was a gape. I couldn't 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 5: believe it. That's a good thing, among other good things 37 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 5: that are happening. 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: It's Joe Getty's the glasses half full. 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: Halfway through that sentence, I decided it needed a name, 40 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: The glasses half full. 41 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 6: You know. 42 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: One of glasses half full? 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: Story is I just saw one hundred and seventy million 44 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: people in the country are under a heat watch. That's 45 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: half the population. How about the other half? Where I live, 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 4: it's extraordinarily cool. It's like the coolest it's been in 47 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 4: thirty years. That's the glasses half full. 48 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 5: We're loving climate change over here now, Michael, you are 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 5: quick on the draw with the theme song there, even 50 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 5: though I decided on it mid sentence. Do you have 51 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 5: the life threatening heat dome song? 52 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: I forgot to handle. I'm still searching for that. We're 53 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: searching for how much wide program, Mike. 54 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 4: We went to all the work to get a life 55 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: threatening heat dome jingle and we don't have it. 56 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 5: The heat dome will be over before we ever get 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 5: to use it. We had Elton John and Tim Rice 58 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 5: write it. We had the uh Disney orchestra that does 59 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 5: all their movies record it for us. It costs four 60 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars. No, all right, you'll find it anyway. 61 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 5: So it struck me in preparing the program today that 62 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: there are a lot of things that made me happy, 63 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 5: which is extraordinarily rare, as most of it's misery and frustration. 64 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: But I've mentioned this a couple of times. 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 5: Ohio has just joined the rising flat tax revolution since 66 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 5: the middle of twenty one, and I did not know this, 67 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 5: I think because the media is loath to admit it. 68 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: Yes, you're using a term that I'm not sure everybody 69 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: knows what it is and are excited about it. What 70 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: is a flat tax? Yeah, it actually comes out in 71 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: the next sense or two. 72 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 5: But so they're the sixth state to revise their tax 73 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 5: go to adopt a flat tax. That because in Ohio 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 5: became the fifteenth state total to abandon graduated or progressive 75 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 5: income taxes in favor of the flat rate model. Meaning, 76 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 5: for instance, in Ohio, a two point seventy five percent 77 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 5: of your income as income tax doesn't matter if you 78 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 5: make a little money or a ton of money, because, 79 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 5: if you know anything about percentages, the more you make, 80 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 5: the more you pay. It's just the same percentage as 81 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 5: everybody else. Now why does this matter, Well, it matters 82 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 5: for a number of reasons. A flat tax levies the 83 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 5: same income tax rate on every household in business, regardless 84 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 5: of income. Progressive income tax structures, by contrast, tax different 85 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 5: income levels at different rates, getting higher and higher as 86 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 5: your earnings get higher and higher. 87 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: The graduated progressive. 88 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 5: Model, which is popular among liberals and progressives, creates disincentives 89 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 5: to earn more, since every dollar gets taxed at a 90 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 5: higher rate at certain thresholds, and it gets worse. Progressive 91 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 5: income tax systems like the federal one encourage taxpayers, lobbyists, 92 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: accounting firms, policymakers to push for loopholes, carve outs exceptions 93 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 5: to offset the progressively higher tax rates. And of course 94 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 5: those loopholes favor the these masses and the powerless. 95 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: No, of course not. 96 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 5: They favor the well connected, and they deem some government 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 5: favorite businesses more equal than others to quote orwell, creating 98 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 5: economic winners and losers. 99 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: Across the tax code. It's just who lobbies the best. 100 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the ultra rich are the ones that can 101 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 4: take advantage of that. Other people can't. You're just stuck 102 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 4: right right. 103 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 5: And because flat tax systems do not impose marginal tax increases, 104 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 5: they encourage economic activity, investment, higher earnings. The growth generates 105 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 5: more wealth and more savings. Fixed flat tax rates are 106 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 5: simple and predictable, so you know without an accountant or 107 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 5: a tax attorney what you're going to be paying. 108 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: You can fight. 109 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 5: It's the for verbial figuring out your taxes on a postcard. 110 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 5: I'm surprised fifteen states have adopted this. 111 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 4: That you that the other side couldn't demogogue it because 112 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 4: it's so easy to demagogue. 113 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 5: Well, yes, I mean it has been, but it's easy 114 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 5: to counter demagogue too. 115 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 4: Hey, if I make ten times as much, I will 116 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: pay ten times as much. 117 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: I've got all sorts. 118 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: Of statistics I was going to bring about with the 119 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: new tax laws and stuff, the disproportionate amount of income 120 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: the top, say twenty percent has or ten percent or 121 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: one percent, but they pay even more proportionally in income 122 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: tax and so number one. Of course, they benefit more 123 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: from taxers reform. But to the idea that the rich 124 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 4: aren't paying their fair share is just absolutely hilarious. 125 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty easy to counter demagogue. 126 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 5: Finally, flat taxes are harder for state legislatures to raise 127 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 5: without voter approval because voting taxpayers know exactly what percentage 128 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 5: of their earnings will be siphoned off to the public offers, 129 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 5: and legislators want to raise that percentage will need to 130 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 5: justify and explain it to all taxpayers. I've advocated for 131 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 5: the flat tax or the fair tax, which is just 132 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 5: a small variation on it for years and years and years, 133 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 5: and will continue to do so anyway. More good stuff. 134 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 5: Read a great analysis of the Trump administration's deal with 135 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 5: Columbia University, trying to clean up the university system and 136 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 5: it's really good and a really good framework. They essentially said, 137 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 5: you're paying fines for violating the law all these years, 138 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 5: coming to a settlement, and we're going to keep an 139 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 5: eye on you. So you got to follow the law 140 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 5: about racial discrimination and the rest of it going forward. 141 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 5: Even as Harvard's former president Larry Summers, who was willing 142 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 5: to concede, this was the best possible. 143 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: Deal Columbia could have hoped to score. 144 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: It's academic autonomy is preserved, the funny string funding streams restored, and. 145 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 2: All it had to do is stop breaking the law. 146 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: So you go, Donald J. You go with the university full. 147 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 5: I think some of the negotiations, as Trump's, are unnecessarily abusive, 148 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 5: but as long as we get to the good stuff. 149 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 5: And speaking of the good stuff, this also got practically 150 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 5: zero reporting. 151 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: Happened at the end of last week. Donald J. 152 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 5: Trump signed an executive order to empower state and local 153 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 5: governments to remove bums and junkies from the nation's streets. 154 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 5: The order ending crime and Disorder on America's streets because 155 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 5: it has. 156 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: To then disorder is a good word. Yeah. 157 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 4: It directs the Attorney General to quote reverse judicial precedents 158 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: and end consent decrees that have hindered local government's ability 159 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: to commit individuals on the streets who are risked themselves 160 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: and others per White House fact sheet. 161 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 5: According to document, the order issues a number of other directives, 162 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 5: including redirecting funding to make sure vagrants causing public disorder 163 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 5: or who are seriously mentally ill are moved into treatment facilities. 164 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: Gow. 165 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: There was a guy yesterday. We were waiting to get 166 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 4: into this diner to get pancakes. Who is this guy 167 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: out on the street? Clearly a danger to himself for others. 168 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: Everybody was just hoping they didn't catch his eye, and 169 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 4: he came our direction. What kind of way is that 170 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 4: to live? I was telling my kids, this stuff makes 171 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 4: me so angry. It's tell my kids my entire life 172 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: on earth, I never saw one human being like that, 173 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: not one until like fifteen years ago. Now I see 174 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: them every day all day. 175 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: How is that possible? 176 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 5: So it might have caught your ear the phrase to 177 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 5: reverse judicial precedents and and consent decrees. How do you 178 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 5: reverse a judicial precedent? Exactly? Well, according to the document, 179 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 5: it issues a bunch of directives. The order requires the 180 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 5: AG to work with the Secretary of Health and Human Services, 181 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 5: Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, and the Secretary of 182 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 5: Transportation to prioritize grants for states and municipalities to enforce 183 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: prohibitions on open illicit drug use, urban camping and loitering, 184 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 5: urban squatting, and track the location of sex offenders. It's 185 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 5: the old government purse strings, incentives and disincentives. I don't 186 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 5: love it, but you know, both sides use it. The 187 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 5: Order redirects funding to ensure that individuals camping on the 188 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 5: streets and causing public disorder and that are suffering from 189 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 5: serious mental illness or addiction are moved into treatment centers, 190 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 5: assisted outpatient treatment and other facilities. Orders discretionary grants for 191 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 5: substance use disorder prevention, treatment recovery that do not fund 192 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 5: drug injection sites or I list of drug use. And 193 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 5: the Order stops sex offenders who receive homelessness assistance from 194 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 5: being housed with children, allows programs to exclusively house women 195 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 5: and children. 196 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: Fantastic. Yeah, I love it. So oh, we've got to 197 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: get to later this hour. 198 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: You said you got some stuff on straightening out, which 199 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 4: appears to be one of the big stories of the day. 200 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 4: As I look at my bank of television's starvation in Gaza. 201 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 4: What's true and what's not true around that? 202 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 5: Yes, including one photo I guarantee you've seen highly misleading. 203 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard about that one. But we've got to 204 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 4: get to the Burbank butt sniffer. That's a big story, 205 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 4: and thank god he has been apprehended. What a weird 206 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 4: story that's on the way next to here, arm Strong, Hey. 207 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 6: Yeie, a crime alert tonight from Burbank Police. They've arrested 208 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 6: a serial sex offender again and they fear many more 209 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 6: women may have been victimized by this man. His previous 210 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 6: victims tonight are furious the man keeps being arrested and 211 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 6: being released. 212 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: Well, that's really the key to the story. But I 213 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 4: don't want to take all the fun out of it. 214 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 4: Well we'll do that at the end. 215 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: That's what we do. We take the fun out of 216 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: fun stories. So you got this. 217 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 4: You're just trying to enjoy yourself at the Nordstrom rack 218 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: on a beautiful day in Burbank and get a good 219 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: deal on a named brand good and you turn around 220 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 4: as a woman and there's somebody crouched bining you smelling 221 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 4: your buttocks. What's going on there? He's been doing this 222 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: for a while. Thank god for TikTok. 223 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 7: It's a twenty twenty three TikTok that went viral. 224 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 2: I was so freaked out when I turned around and 225 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: saw him literally under me. 226 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 7: A woman confronts a man at a Barnes and Noble 227 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 7: for getting uncomfortably close seeming to sniff her. What it is? 228 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 7: That's mikaela whitter. She posted the video frustrated after watching 229 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 7: him walk around targeting other women. It turns out that 230 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 7: man Chalice Crowder is a registered sex offender with a 231 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 7: rap sheet that includes burglary and peeping into people's homes 232 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 7: with kids inside. 233 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, the TikTok video got him in the big trouble 234 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: because you had video evidence of him crouching down behind 235 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: a woman at a Barnes and Noble. He said he 236 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 4: was trying to tie his shoe. I'll fill any details 237 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 4: we don't have here. Here's a police and then a victim. 238 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 8: He eventually worked his way into the women's section, found 239 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 8: a lone shopper and started hipping some of the same behavior, 240 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 8: getting close to her uncomfortably close, crouching down as if 241 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 8: he was trying to buy something or check something out 242 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 8: or look at something. 243 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 9: So I've heard up to twenty women, you know, and 244 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 9: what's happened to them, and they're all scared, and I 245 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 9: know the feeling. 246 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 5: I don't want to suck the fun out of it either. 247 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 5: I'll let you do that at the appropriate time. But yeah, 248 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 5: the obvious point here is guys like this are not 249 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 5: dangerous until they. 250 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: Are well right, and you aren't going to Apparently you're 251 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: not going to fix him. I mean, he gets out 252 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 4: of jail for doing this and he goes right back 253 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 4: to it. I mean, he's got so many parts of 254 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: his brain that don't work right. Even if you've got 255 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 4: this irresistible urge, I would think to do it the 256 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: sensible part of your brain to think. 257 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: Look, I already spent time in jail. 258 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: It's really going to be hard to get a decent job, 259 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: create a good life, find a woman, mary, have kids, 260 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 4: settle down. If I do this again, you know, with 261 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 4: a rap sheet already for this. So I'm going to 262 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: as much as i'd like to, I'm not going to 263 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 4: go to the north sort track, crawling my hands and 264 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: knees up behind some woman looking at some shoes. 265 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: And start smelling her. 266 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: Because of You know, I've already seen the consequences of 267 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 4: my actions. Fund I came across a scientific study about 268 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 4: that sort of person. 269 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: More on that to come. But he does it anyway. 270 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 4: He just it's so uncontrollable, or he doesn't get understand 271 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: the consequences or how the whole thing works or whatever. 272 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: And so he was at he was at the nordstromb 273 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 4: rat there in Burbank, and some woman yelled at him 274 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 4: or something like that. When the police get there, he 275 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: had moved across the parking lot to the Walmart. Was 276 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: in the Walmart with a more bargain minded shoppers. But 277 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if they have the same set. That'd 278 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: be the question to ask him. You know, it's a 279 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 4: difference in smell between Nordstrom shoppers and Walmart shoppers. Can 280 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 4: we put this guy on a leash at the airport 281 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 4: and I haven't looked for bombs or sometimes sniff out bombs, 282 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: or put him at the border, put him to work 283 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: for the DA. Put him on a leash at the airport. 284 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 4: Do not pet the butt sniff right, combining two things. 285 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: He gets put the little vest on him, do not pet. 286 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: He gets to sniff people, which is his wont but 287 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 4: he stays out of trouble, earns a living right when 288 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 4: when on that Katie, you have come in this absolutely not. 289 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: How do you not get his teeth kicked in when 290 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 4: you turn around and there's some dude there, That's my 291 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: first thought as he is getting a roundhouse right to 292 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: the side of the head. If I turned around and 293 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: saw that we're not doing this yelling videoing, no, I'm 294 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: just violence. Put him on a leash at the airport, 295 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 4: have him earn his keep, Convince him that bombs smell 296 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: like hot women's buttocks is or something, whatever you got 297 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 4: to do to motivate him. 298 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 5: Wow, I'm not sure if that would work. But you're 299 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: thinking outside the box. Are we gonna play the Last Clipper? 300 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 8: Or no? 301 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: Is that? Did we? Yeah? 302 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's the age old story, specifically in New York, LA, Chicago, 303 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: places like that, where people get arrested over and over 304 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 4: and over again for the same behavior and you let 305 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: them out because like the email we had last hour, 306 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 4: because you think capitalism is making them do this, or 307 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: some bullets. 308 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: Having witnessed the passing of the three strikes, you're out 309 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 5: laws in kel Unicornia. 310 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: Then the rescinding of them. More or less. 311 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 5: The left never argues honestly about a guy like this. 312 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 5: They'll always say he's going to jail for life, for. 313 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: Thirty years or whatever it was for stealing a pack 314 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: of gum. 315 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 5: No, it's for violating the law over and over and 316 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 5: over again and proving there is no chance that person 317 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 5: will become a non dangerous, law abiding citizen. We don't 318 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 5: have to let people commit fifty crimes as a society. 319 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: We don't. It's okay to pass laws that say, once 320 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: you've made it clear you will not follow the law, 321 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: you don't get to be in society anymore. 322 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 4: The butt sniffer has been arrested forty times forty forty 323 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: four zero. How many times does someone have to demonstrate 324 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: that they're not willing to be a functional part of 325 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: society or remove them from society. That's insane. And like 326 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 4: Joe said, he'll hurt somebody at some point. 327 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody will confront him or try to stop him, 328 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 5: and he will commit an act of violence, and then 329 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 5: everybody will be like, oh, he should probably go to jail. 330 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: Put him on a leash at the airport. Joe solved 331 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: it armstrong and getty. 332 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 10: In an abrupt reversal, Israel cleared the way from more 333 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 10: aid to Gaza. The military air dropped food and supplies, 334 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 10: but those palettes are a fraction of what's needed. The 335 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 10: bulk of the aid is on trucks waiting to go, 336 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 10: and in what could be a game changer, Israel says 337 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 10: it will establish secure roots through the war zone, so 338 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 10: the trucks will no longer be shot at or looted. 339 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 10: Gaza's misery has shocked the world, and international medical agencies 340 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 10: says children, especially the poorest and those with special needs, 341 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 10: are suffering from acute malnutrition. 342 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, there were some ugly pictures and videos coming out 343 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: of that story over the weekend. You're paying attention to 344 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 4: it at all if you're older and you've been following 345 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 4: the news for a long time. Though, God, I've seen 346 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: those videos and pictures my whole life, oftentimes finding out 347 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: that they're phony or exaggerated or from five years ago. 348 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on in this case, but 349 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 4: I have been misled so many times over the years, 350 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: and I thought it was interesting. I was listening to 351 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 4: NPR today and they for the I've been saying this 352 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 4: for months now, the first time I hear a story 353 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 4: that even hints that Hamas might be bad guys will 354 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 4: be the first time. On NPA, I mean, they just 355 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 4: know Israel horrible, horrible human beings. They never say anything 356 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 4: negative about Hamas ever. But on NPR today they actually 357 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 4: allowed a spokesman for Israel on saying Israel claims that 358 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: this is not what's happening, that they're trying to distribute 359 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 4: aid and Hamas won't let them or steals it or 360 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 4: shoots at them or whatever. And NPR did say we 361 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: cannot confirm this report, but they allowed it on there, 362 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: which actually makes me think that it's more likely to 363 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 4: be true. The fact that they allowed it on there 364 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 4: at all. 365 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 5: Right hilarious that they would use the phrase we cannot 366 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 5: confirm this report, having breathlessly reported virtually everything that Hamas 367 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 5: has led them. 368 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: For several point years. 369 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 5: So there have been a couple of developments lately in 370 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 5: which Israel said it would pause military activity in some 371 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 5: densely populated parts of the strip for a chunk of 372 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 5: the day till further notice to establish safe roots for 373 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 5: humanitarian a they're trying to get more aid in. 374 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: But that all did little to quiet the charges. 375 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 5: That Israel has inflicted a famine on Gaza. 376 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 4: Wow, I'm looking at I've seen so many of these videos. 377 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the video right now from Gaza. No 378 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: matter what, whether it's Israel's shooting at him or and 379 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 4: I don't think it is, or Hama shooting at him, 380 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 4: or whatever it's causing the problem. 381 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: It looks like hell on earth to be in Gaza. 382 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: Just a great awful, a great god. 383 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 5: If you took in any media or social media over 384 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 5: the weekend, there's a very very good chance you saw 385 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 5: the haunting image of a mother in a hyjab holding 386 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 5: a skeletal child, an eighteen month old boy wearing only 387 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 5: a diaper, with the spine and his ribs clearly visible 388 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 5: in his gaunt frame, during the story about how the 389 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 5: cruel Israelis are starving the people of Gaza. By the way, 390 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 5: on social media, often the image was accompanied side by 391 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 5: side with the black and white photograph of a Jewish 392 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 5: child on the brink of death in one of Hitler's 393 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 5: death camps. The message clear, of course, the Palestinian boys 394 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 5: a symbol for mass starvation gripping the people of Gaza. 395 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 5: The only problem is that the boy and they know 396 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 5: his name, who appeared on the front page of Britain's 397 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 5: Daily Express on Wednesday and then on that of the 398 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 5: New York Times on Friday, was picked up by the BBC, CNN, 399 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 5: Sky News and countless others. In fact, suffers from a 400 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 5: muscle disorder and other grave genetic conditions unrelated to starvation. 401 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 5: And that's according to CNN and the independent investigative journalist 402 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 5: David Collier. But of course that information will never reach 403 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 5: the countless people who saw and shared the image, nor 404 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 5: will the fact that Mohammad's brother, that's the little fellow, 405 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 5: the God bless his soul. 406 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not making you know, the glossing. 407 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 4: Over the fact that this poor little lad is clearly 408 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 4: barely cleaning the life. But anyway, his brothers cropped out 409 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 4: of the widely circulated image appears healthy, as does his mother. 410 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: Right. 411 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 4: And you might remember a story from I don't think 412 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 4: we talked about it as a month or so ago. 413 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 4: All the headlines everywhere were experts predict I forget what 414 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: it was, fifteen thousand dead in the next forty eight 415 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 4: hours from mass stars starvation, and it just never occurred. 416 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 4: So just somebody got that story out there, everybody reported it, 417 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 4: and that never happened. Not that it doesn't look like 418 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: hell on Earth. Like I said, what's your fix for this? 419 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: What are you gonna? 420 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 4: I mean it is apples take charge again. It is 421 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 4: absolutely awful. But what are what what do you do 422 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: with this situation? 423 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 5: Do various measures that will feed the people more adequately, 424 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 5: even if it strengthens Hamas would be the answer from 425 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 5: the left, and you know intelligence he around the world. 426 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 5: It's it's as simple as that. I'm gonna be let 427 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 5: me quote a little bit. Matti Friedman wrote a great 428 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 5: piece for the Free Press, very even handed, and he 429 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 5: mentions that genuine misery can be put to use by 430 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 5: practitioners of information warfare. And he makes it clear that 431 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 5: this is a war. But the truth still matters amid 432 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 5: the brajualize told by Hamas and its allies. 433 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: How are we to know what is true? As Maddie writes. 434 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 5: In a Bliss of ideological fiction, how are sane citizens 435 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 5: in Israel or anywhere else supposed to know what's true 436 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 5: and to do the right thing. It's not an exaggeration 437 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 5: to say we're seeing right now, as we're seeing right 438 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 5: now that the answer to this question can be a 439 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 5: matter of life and death. 440 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 441 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: Man, this has always been a story about the Palestinians 442 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 4: and Israel about it was hard to know what's true. 443 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 4: But now in the current information age, and it just 444 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 4: occurred to me that what it leads me to do 445 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 4: is ignore it, which is the danger for all these stories, 446 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 4: I mean, not life and death ones, but just political 447 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: story in general. When you can't you don't know what 448 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: to believe, you just go, eh, well, I don't know 449 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 4: it's true or not, so you just go on to 450 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 4: something else, which. 451 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 5: As an aside, has long been the goal of Soviet 452 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 5: than Russian disinformation, not to convince us of anything in particular, 453 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 5: but to make Americans so cynical about knowing the. 454 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: Truth we don't even ask what it is anymore. Anyway. 455 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 5: More on that another time, But so Maddie's piece for 456 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 5: the Free Press. He points out a couple of major 457 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 5: incidents in this conflict, including the infamous Israeli clearly an 458 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 5: Israeli rocket attack on the hospital at least five hundred dead. 459 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 5: The New York Times headline reported that furious protests erupted, 460 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 5: a mob burned a synagonue in Tunisia story, completely fake, 461 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: misfired Palestinian rocket landed near a hospital, practically no casualties. 462 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 5: And then he goes into several other examples of that 463 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 5: sort of misinformation, skipping ahead to the key point. 464 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: Very little of what is reported here, in other words, 465 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: is what it seems. 466 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 5: This is nothing new, and then he goes over a 467 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 5: bunch of more examples. The transformation of truth telling institutions 468 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 5: into ideological megaphones has had a high price for citizens 469 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 5: and liberal societies and for the institutions themselves, as we're 470 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 5: seeing at places like Harvard and NPR. The feeling of 471 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 5: being unmoored from objective reality, of rowing a boat through 472 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 5: a choppy sea of lies in propagandas is very much 473 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 5: a feature of the present moment, not only in Israel, 474 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 5: but one of the most awful prices was made clear 475 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 5: this past week with reports of acute hunger in Blaza 476 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 5: in a blizzard of ideological fiction. How are sane citizens 477 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 5: supposed to know what's actually happening? And what he did 478 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 5: in this essay which I wish it wasn't quite so long, 479 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 5: I just read it to you, But he called a 480 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 5: bunch of different colleagues who he trusts as human beings. 481 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 5: Veteran journalists, including Israelis involved in covering what was going 482 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 5: on there, and not like Netan Yahoo loving conservatives. 483 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: They're just concerned with humans. 484 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 5: It was clear in speaking to them that our polite 485 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 5: is journalists is only marginally better than that of the 486 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 5: average citizen. The consensus was that there are nearly no 487 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 5: trustworthy sources regarding reality in Gaza. Certainly not the quote 488 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 5: unquote Gaza Health Ministry which answers to Hamas, or Palestinian 489 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 5: reporters intimidated by Hamas, or the international organizations like the 490 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 5: UN Refugee Agency UNRAW embroiled in various forms of collaboration 491 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 5: with Ams. All of the above are engaged in a 492 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 5: successful information campaign that uses Palestinian suffering, reel and imagine 493 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 5: to catalyze international anger and tie Israel's hands. And the 494 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 5: international press isn't the answer, he says. During my years 495 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 5: as a reporter and editor for the AP, I saw 496 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 5: coverage altered by Hamas threats to our staff, which the 497 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 5: AP concealed from our readers. I know firsthand no information 498 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 5: coming from Gaza can be taken a face value. 499 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: Wow, and if you have a lot of reporters, because 500 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 4: a lot of journalists lean anti Israel anyway, if they're 501 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: if they're predisposed to lean away from Israel anyway, Sure 502 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 4: you'd go with the threat, and that just for credibility's sake, 503 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 4: my words, not his. Maddie points out that neither can 504 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 4: we Israelis trust our own government, which has regularly misled 505 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 4: the public about the war's progress, as governments do. Speaker 506 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 4: Johnson responded to the whole starvation and gaza thing yesterday 507 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: and meet the press. 508 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: We'll get to that right after this. 509 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 5: A word from our friends at Trustandwill dot com. 510 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: You know you should do this. 511 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 5: You know you have to have your affairs in order 512 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 5: in case. But you've thought, well, it's expensive, it's involved, 513 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 5: there's a lot of paperwork. 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That's 532 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 5: trustinwill dot com slash armstrong. 533 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: As interesting, So I lean way toward Israel's a good 534 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: guy and Gaza slash the Palestinians or the bad guys. 535 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: I lean way that direction. 536 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 4: But if I was there and saw, you know, Israeli 537 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 4: ze Israeli soldiers shooting at people trying to get food 538 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 4: or something, I'd be more than willing to report it. 539 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: But it's interesting that that person said it's hard if 540 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 4: you're on the ground there to figure out what's true 541 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: and what's not here. I don't know where speaker Mike 542 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 4: Johnson's getting his information, but this is what he said 543 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 4: about efforts by Israel, with the help of the United 544 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: States and others, to get food to these people. 545 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 11: Israel since this war began has supplied over ninety four 546 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 11: thousand truckloads full of food. It's enough food to feed 547 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 11: two million people for two years trying to get that 548 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 11: into Gaza. But Hamas has stolen the food a huge amount. 549 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 11: In fact, in twenty twenty four, the numbers are that 550 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 11: Hammas profited over five hundred million dollars in stolen food 551 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 11: aid that was supposed to go to these poor people 552 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 11: who needed it. That's half of their budget. So this 553 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 11: is a broken system. The UN needs to work with 554 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 11: Israel to make sure that the food is getting to 555 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 11: the people that need it most. 556 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: So for what it's worth. 557 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 5: The New York Times last week had a story that 558 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 5: cited two Israeli military officials, didn't specify who they were, 559 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 5: what rank they were, whatever, saying we have no evidence 560 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 5: that Hamas steals eight and they went front page with 561 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 5: that on the New York Times. Wow, most other officials 562 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 5: in the country would contradict that and say, what the 563 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 5: f are you talking about? 564 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: But that's the situation. 565 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 5: We're in people are desperate to get the sort of 566 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 5: information that backs their pre existing point of view. 567 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 4: But in this case, you've got an actor in Hamas 568 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: who's demonstrated what they do for decades. 569 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: So I mean, it would be. 570 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 4: Shocking if all of a sudden they've decided, Well, I 571 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 4: know in the past, we've stolen aid and that's how 572 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 4: we became billionaires. And why all our fighters are, you know, healthy, comfortable, 573 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: of normal weight. They have plenty of ammunition, blah blah blah, 574 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 4: and lots of money, and everybody around us is starving. 575 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 4: I know that's what we've done for decades, but we 576 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 4: decided in this particular instance in this war to go 577 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 4: ahead and distribute food and not steal it. 578 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: I mean, that would be a shocking development, right right. 579 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 5: So Friedman goes on to write, after saying pointing out 580 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 5: a bunch of examples where the Israeli military misled the media, 581 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 5: he says he's he's trying desperately to figure out what's 582 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 5: going on, and he's talking to Palestinian and journalists who 583 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 5: talked to Palestinians. One such journalists Ohadhimo, the Palestinian affairs 584 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 5: reporter for Channel twelfth News, the country's most widely watched 585 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 5: news program, whose report last Wednesday and there's a link, 586 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 5: was shared widely. Food warehouses serving Hamas fighters are still full, 587 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 5: he reported, and the crisis wasn't only Israel's fault. So 588 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 5: it's a complex situation. 589 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure it is. 590 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: And I don't doubt that Israeli soldiers have done things 591 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 4: that shouldn't be done in a what is becoming near 592 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: total war. But Hamas has been using hospitals and mosques 593 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 4: as their bases for years. Again, it would be in 594 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 4: fitting with what they've demonstrated over decades to steal the food. 595 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: It would be completely new behavior to not be stealing 596 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 4: the food. 597 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 5: All of this according to every journalist and politician on 598 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 5: all sides of the question up until very very recently. 599 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 5: It is you know, I would never gloss over the 600 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 5: suffering of people, particularly children, the innocent. 601 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: But I think what we're seeing. 602 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 4: Is an awful, murderous uh Islamist regime which tried to 603 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 4: slaughter its Jewish neighbor now must be defeated completely, and 604 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 4: in doing that, innocent people are going to suffer. 605 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: That is a history of warfare. 606 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 4: You can comment anytime. Text Line four one five two 607 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 4: nine five kftc. 608 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 7: Armstrong and Yetti witter Piel's he never should have gotten 609 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 7: a chance to victimize anyone else. Court documents show he 610 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 7: was out on parole. With the history of convictions for 611 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 7: lude conduct dating back to twenty twenty one. 612 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 9: It's crazy to think that someone like this, who is 613 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 9: constantly stalking and boleating these people, is allowed to be 614 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 9: out and about. 615 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 7: We took those concerns to police asking why he wasn't 616 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 7: behind bars. 617 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, obviously it's frustrating, but we do what we. 618 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: Need to do. 619 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 4: This is the burbank but sniffer who crawls up behind 620 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 4: women and sniffs them. He has done this in the 621 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 4: ended up in jail, was let out of jail. Immediately 622 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 4: he's at the northsomb rack down low behind a woman 623 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 4: claiming he was tying his shoes and apparently trying to 624 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 4: catch the aroma of her hind end. 625 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 5: Oh boy, yeah, I could have left that on set anyway. 626 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 5: So this guy gets arrested and turned loose, over and 627 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 5: over and over again. It's in a funny coincidence. I 628 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 5: had just come across a study about why some people 629 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 5: keep making bad decisions even after they're punished. And this, 630 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 5: this global study that's involved a hell of a lot 631 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 5: of people identified three distinct decision making types. Sensitive individuals 632 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 5: who learn from punishment that's normal people. Unaware individuals who 633 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 5: need explicit instruction, and compulsive individuals who persist and harmful behavior. 634 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 5: Despite both, I don't deny that we needed a study, 635 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 5: but this guy's clearly number three. Yes, some people fail 636 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 5: to connect actions with their consequences, while others understand the 637 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 5: risks but can't change their behavior. 638 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: Wow. So either this guy's got a screw loose. 639 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 5: And again, I think that we, as human beings make 640 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 5: a mistake over and over again. 641 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: The longer I live, the more I more firmly I 642 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: believe this. 643 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 5: We make the mistake over and over again, believing that 644 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 5: other people, all other people see the world as we 645 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 5: do and process information in the way we process it. 646 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 5: Like I would like to talk to some ultra progressive, 647 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 5: you know, Berkeley eight types, Madison, wisconsint professors who are 648 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 5: completely convinced of the progressive boy of the world, and 649 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 5: I'd just like to get inside their heads and see, 650 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 5: you know, what color is the sky in your world? 651 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 5: As the old saying goes, But how does that so? 652 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 4: So some of yours like stealing from grocery stores, Your 653 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 4: Madison professor would say, well, capitalism has caused these people 654 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 4: to struggle blah blah blah. So what's your angle on 655 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 4: somebody who won't stop getting on their knees and snipping 656 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 4: women's butts. If you put them in jail, you let 657 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 4: them out, they do it again. That can't be capitalism 658 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 4: causing that, can it? 659 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: No jerarchy? 660 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 5: No, So the write up I mean, because it doesn't 661 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 5: make any sense if capitalism were just completely at fault 662 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 5: in an evil system instituted by the evil doers above me, 663 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 5: blah blah blah. But in executing a certain behavior, I 664 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 5: just had terrible consequences over and over again. I would 665 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 5: stop unless I thought I was righting wrong. But anyway, 666 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 5: this big write up mentions this research challenges common assumptions 667 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 5: about human decision making and reveals that punishment resisted behaviors 668 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 5: stem from specific cognitive deficits, often rather than exclusively moral 669 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 5: failings or lack of will power. 670 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 4: Again, I say the study needs to be He was 671 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 4: at the Nord sim Rak and Burbank, then when he 672 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 4: got caughty, ran the Walmart and did it. I want 673 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 4: him to explain, is there a difference between Nordstrom Drack 674 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 4: women and Walmart women that he knowed? 675 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 5: My lord, maybe we can get back into this an 676 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 5: hour four or something like that, because part of me 677 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 5: suspects that this is progressive do gooders seeking to avoid 678 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 5: the idea of people taking a responsibility for their actions, 679 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 5: because that seems to be a big part of the left. 680 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 5: But even if they're right, what do we do about 681 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 5: as a society? 682 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 2: What a nutjob Armstrong and Getty