1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Why from our nation's cale, this budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: to do nothing space forts. I still think it's interesting 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: President Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: politics colliding Floomberg sound on, the Insiders, the influencers, the insides. 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: I would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: my DNA. The Senate map in looks a lot different 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: than it looked in. President Trump was sent here to 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: smash conventional norms in a sense Bernie Sanders has already was. 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin surl on Bloomberg 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: one h D two. Can I get a witness or no? 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna find out whether or not there's going to 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: be witnesses in the Senate impeachment trial. The latest on 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: the impeachment fronts, plus President Trump's nemesis, Adam Shift draws 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: praise for his impeachment performance. I guess amongst Democrats. Meanwhile, 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Biden hits President Trump on Military Brass. Will give you 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: the latest on the twenty campaign. Update from the top 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: here candidates and more from my trip with Secretary of 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: State Mike Pompello. Will play some more of that. We've 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: got an all star panel Eli Yoakleys here, political reporter 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: for all of my friends at the Morning Consult. Great 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: people over there. Wendy Benjaminson, my friend Bloomberg Politics editor, 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: who told me that she has fried. I said, I'm fried. 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: Two together, we can fry some food on this Friday. Wendy, 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 1: We're gonna survive. We're gonna get through the hour together. 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: David Mark, Deputy news editor at the Washington Examiners. So 26 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of news to get through, folks. 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: My panelists tonight are my good friends Eli Yokley, political 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: reporter for the Morning Consult. Eli, you're gonna give us 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: all the latest polls on the on the Morning Consult. Right, 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: let's go all right, good Wendy Benjaminson is here, my 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: good friend, Bloomberg Politics editor. Hey, Wendy, are you as 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: tired as I am? I'm a little fried. I'm a 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: little fried too. But you known't even started yet. We 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: haven't even you know, there's one more show until the weekend, 35 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: and then are we're gonna have a good weekend. We 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: are going to have a good good you know. Then 37 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna be in Iowa and New Hampshire, Nevada and 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: South Carolina, Wow, Wendy, who's counting what? David Mark, Deputy 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: news editor at the Washington Examiner, You guys have had 40 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: a great week, some pretty big headlines coming out of 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: the Examiner. It's been a fun one. Yeah. What's been 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: your favorite headline at the Washington Examiner? Been so many 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: of them. He put me on the spot. Give us 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: what's been your favorite impeachments of Candy crush? I hear 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk of Candy crush with 46 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: the impeachment. The biggest one we've had is actually Tom Stire. 47 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: He's kind of the forgotten guy out there is Yeah, 48 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: ste Well, he's kind of got Iowa to himself only 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: he and Pete Buddha Jedder out there right now and Biden. 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Joe Bonds actually had he's out there for a couple 51 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: of days, but he said into a Hampshire for days. 52 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: So he's making a late play for lunch with David 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: McIntosh today over at the Club for Growth, and we 54 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: were talking about expectations for Joe Biden and exactly what 55 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: those expectations will be. Let's not start with We'll talk 56 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: about twenty I promise coming up. We gotta lead with 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: the trial, the Senate impeachment trial. Folks, Donald Trump is 58 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: on trial in the Senate. I'm reading from the Bloomberg 59 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: terminal my colleagues Billy how and Chris Strom. But the 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: week was dominated by the dogged prosecutor turned lawmaker he 61 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: routinely derides as shifty shift. Democratic Representative Adam Schiff. Laid 62 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: out the House's impeachment case against the president and painstaking, 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: if repetitive detail, bolstered by a library of video clips 64 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: and occasional flashes of passion. But Wendy, look, I mean 65 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: when I was on all week traveling with the Secretary 66 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: of State and they have Fox News on the plane, 67 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you, Tucker Carlson last night absolutely 68 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: annihilated Adam Schiff. And I think that in the Republican world, 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: in the conservative world, I don't think, according to my reporting, 70 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: in the conservative world, this is backfiring on Adam Shift, 71 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: and it's totally mobilizing President Trump space. Absolutely it is. 72 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Adam Schiff is, as Lindsey Graham said, very 73 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: well spoken. He's a former federal prosecutor. He knows his 74 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: stuff when it comes to how to present a case. 75 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: So I think that's you know, Lindsay Graham is referring 76 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: to Um. Also, Lindsay Graham has just kind of a 77 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: nice guy and says things like that, says things about 78 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: other people. But UM. But no that this this whole thing, 79 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: because the outcome is certain, that almost certain, that President 80 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: Trump will be acquitted by the Senate and this whole 81 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: thing will move on. It is, it does have the 82 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: potential to really backfire on the Democrats. Kevin, I think 83 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: you're right about the mobilization of Republicans, and we saw 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: that in some of our polling this week that we 85 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: got before the trial began. Our latest pull up Morning 86 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: Consul had impeachment support removal support at the closest margin 87 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: that's ever been almost evenly split, and a lot of 88 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: that was driven by a shifting Republicans and independence towards 89 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: a Trump's side on this um. At the same time, 90 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: voters still back these witnesses. Um. They kind of want 91 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: to have their ears open on some of these issues. Yeah, 92 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: there's no real reason to think any Republican minds, senatorial 93 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: Republican minds have been changed. We still have the kind 94 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: of the main vote coming up probably early next week 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: on whether to include witnesses or not. Okay, So this 96 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: is what I don't understand. I thought, and I hate 97 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: to interrupt you, but on the issue of witnesses, I 98 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: thought that we were going to get this decision Tuesday. 99 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: Then I thought we were going to get this decision Wednesday. 100 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: Now you're telling me that we're not going to get 101 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: the decision until early next week. What is taking so long. 102 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: Either you're either you're gonna have witnesses or you're not well. 103 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: The opening day got delayed, if you want to call it, 104 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: put it that way, by a bunch of Democratic amendments, 105 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: which send it. Democrats knew they were going to lose 106 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: the votes on but they wanted to prove their point 107 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: get lots of vulnerable Republicans on record for that. Then 108 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: they had the quote unquote opening arguments, which took the 109 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: better part of two days. Republican lawyers for President Trump 110 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: still have their day in the sun. The Saturday session 111 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: is getting cut short because senators just don't want to 112 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: sit in the Senate for that long on Saturday. So 113 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: we'll get to it soon enough. But it's getting awfully. 114 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: I just think the whole TiAl is weird. I just 115 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: feel like that's the word of the day. Weird, because 116 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: you've got Democrats who are saying that they want witnesses, 117 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: and Republicans are saying, we why didn't you have witnesses 118 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: in the House. And then you've got Republicans who are saying, 119 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: what are we even having a trial for? And it 120 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: just and and Nielsen's ratings came out and Fox News. 121 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: Everyone's watching Fox News in terms of I just find 122 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: the whole thing weird, Wendy, it is weird. And I'm 123 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: not sure. I mean, my understanding UM covered the last 124 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: impeachment Gerald Bill Clinton, but my understanding is that the 125 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: House session was not for witnesses. The House session is 126 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: a the equivalent of a grand jury investigation. And they 127 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: came out and said, Okay, Senate, we have we believe 128 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: we have enough evidence to charge Donald Trump with these crimes. 129 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: You go triumph. That's the place for witnesses. So this 130 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: whole I think the Republican UM Republicans are trying to 131 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: confuse voters who may not be experts and how impeachments 132 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: work into thinking that the House expertspeach well, I mean, 133 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: barely any of us in this room. What do what 134 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: do independence say? ELI and battleground states or what are 135 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: you reading in the in the numbers of what what 136 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: do they think? Are they thinking this is weird? Or 137 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: they are they even paying attention to it? I mean, 138 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: I think the Nielsen remembers speak for themselves. Every day 139 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: Americans really aren't tuning into this. Say that again, I 140 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: just say that that bears repeating. Yeah, I mean everyday 141 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: Americans aren't tuning into this. Imagine a Saturday, you're out 142 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: at home in Missouri. Back home, Missouri, You're turning into 143 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: see Span tomorrow during the day to watch Trump's defense. 144 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I just can't imagine, folk student. That's why 145 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: this warning about Trump's lawyers wointed delay a lot of 146 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: their arguments till next week when people might be tuning in. 147 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: But even last night, I mean Fox News was not 148 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: covering this. If you're a conservative American out there and 149 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: you're watching Fox, it wasn't even showing this. I mean, 150 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: go ahead, I would just say in the States, um, 151 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: we've seen a big decline in the approval rating of 152 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: a number of Republicans sidors as we've gotten closer to this. 153 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: Um uh, well, some of it, like Martha McSally has 154 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: been driven by Republicans into Penans and Democrats, and you've 155 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: seen her hard swing to the right to try to 156 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: embrace some of this. Others have been been driven mostly 157 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: by independence in Democrats like Susan Collins of of Maryland, 158 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: and you've seen her tech to the middle on this. So, um, 159 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: this is definitely gonna play on twenty politics I I 160 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: but will it last until next November's that's a good question. 161 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: If you're a House Republican today, you want it to 162 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Tom Emmer said a couple of weeks ago, he wants 163 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: this to be an ads in the fall. If you 164 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: talk to Republican strategies in some of these states working 165 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: on Senate races, and they really don't want to be 166 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: talking about this in the fall. Obviously, that's fascinating, especially 167 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: just given the dynamics on it. There are other things 168 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: happening in the world, folks. One is happening in the world. 169 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: The situation in Lebanon's happening in the world. Libya is 170 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: happening in the world, and it's just amazing. It really 171 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: is fascinating to watch this trial on every single channel. 172 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: You can't turn it off, and it's not even it's 173 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: not even like it. I mean, I'm not gonna find 174 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: but I mean, it's just I don't know. All right, 175 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: coming up, we're gonna pivot back to policy because the 176 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: markets haven't moved. And I say this every show, the 177 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: markets have not blinked on in Peachman developments. And that's 178 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: it would be from. It would be stunning if if 179 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden there was this showing of Republicans 180 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: who who break what has already been priced in panel stays. 181 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cereli. I'm staying today. I'm the chief Washington 182 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: correspondent to Bloomberg TV and Radio. Download the Bloomberg Sound 183 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: On podcast on Apple iTunes. You're listening to Bloomberg. You're 184 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg 185 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven F M h D two. 186 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cereli, chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and 187 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Eli Yakley's here. He's a political reporter for 188 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: the Morning Consult Wendy Benjamin Sion, Bloomberg Politics editor, and 189 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: David Mark, Deputy news editor at the Washington Examiner. There 190 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: was other news that happened this week, folks, other than impeachment. 191 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: And that's what I want to talk about, because there's 192 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: a ton of a ton of news, geo political news 193 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: that is happening next week. They're gonna unveil a peace plan, Wendy, 194 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: middle East peace plan in the middle of an impeachment trial. 195 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: And do you think this piece plan is the answer 196 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: to Middle East piece? I'm just a reporter, Wendy. I mean, 197 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: the plan, as I understand it is pretty much Israel 198 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: gets everything. I mean, I haven't seen the plan, but 199 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: but I think it does speak to a larger uh. 200 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: I think it's it's an illustration of where we're at. 201 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: And I spoke to a source about this yesterday. Yeah, 202 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: the days blore together yesterday and I said, well, what 203 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: change for the White House in terms of the calculation 204 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: of waiting to release the peace plan until after the 205 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: Israelis figure out what they're going to be doing. And 206 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: what this source told me was the White House feels 207 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: that potentially they would be able to say to their voters, 208 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: say it's independent voters that in the midst of the 209 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: impeachment trial, the White House is trying to negotiate peace 210 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: and is and is unveiling this piece plan. It's going 211 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: to be interesting eli to see the reaction that it 212 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: gets from voters, but also from folks all around the world, 213 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: both allies and adversaries. Yeah, it's a good flex for 214 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: the president. I mean, this is something at his base 215 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: cares a lot about. Um. I think that this is 216 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: next week. We've always also got the U s m 217 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: c A getting signed next week. I mean throughout impeachment, 218 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: he has had some achievements that he can turn around 219 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: and say, well, Congress has been spending his time coming 220 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: after me. I've been getting this stuff across the fire. 221 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: I think that's an excellent point. I mean, David, when 222 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: you look at the schedule for next week, the signing 223 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, where the President is going to be literally 224 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: signing into law one of the biggest trade deals that 225 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: he knew that he ran campaigned on. For the U 226 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: s m c A and for the business community, not 227 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: just big business, but small business. That's been something that 228 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: they've been pushing for for for a long time. And 229 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: then in addition to that, he's going to be having 230 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: world leaders at the White House from Israel, and that's 231 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: that's a huge deal, right, This We're well into an 232 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: election year at this point, so no great surprise that 233 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: the administration wants to tout these things. Whether they will 234 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: last until November or not remains an open question. But 235 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: as you all know, markets want certainty, and that's what 236 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: you're getting with signing of this trade agree agreement. You 237 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: know where things are going. It's not a huge change 238 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: from what's been in place for the last quarter century 239 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: under NAFTA, but it does update some things and it's 240 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: something the administration wanted on the Middle East peace situation. 241 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: That is, as Eli said, that place to a core 242 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: constituency of the presidents, and it's gonna please lots of people, 243 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: it's gonna displease some others, but it's it's an electioneer 244 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: and it will also be going on right when that 245 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: old impeachment trial just might be winding down, and that's 246 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: you're right, and then that's all that's sort of activity. 247 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Is also a page out of Bill Clinton's playbook. When 248 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: he was impeached, he got I don't remember exactly all 249 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: of the things he got done, but he was very, 250 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: very very busy being president while you know what what 251 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: the White the executive branch considers the Shenanigans are going 252 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: on in Congress to try to get rid of them. 253 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: Um so yeah, absolutely. And then of course the policy 254 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: things also give the Democrats a chance to talk about 255 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, Middle East peace and Trump's foreign policy. Um, 256 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: that will be some talk in Iowa. They're a little 257 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: tangled up on U S M c A because, um, 258 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, I I don't think they actually disagree with 259 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: him on trade, so they have to yeah, oh yes, 260 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: Bernie does, that's true, but the others really kind of don't, 261 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: and they have to find a way to say, well, 262 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: we don't like the way he's doing it, which is interesting. 263 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just struck by this because it's it 264 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: would be one thing if if President Trump only was 265 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: able to get Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin neton Yahoo to 266 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: attend the White House. But the fact that he got 267 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: his chief rival, centrist former General Benny Gantz to attend 268 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: as well. The images of that, I mean, just pause 269 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: for a second. Tuesday, the images of Benny Gantz, President Trump, 270 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: and Prime Minister Net and Yahoo at Pennsylvania Avenue. That is, 271 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: a regardless of whether the Palestinians show up, Those images 272 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: in and of itself are as you point out, David, 273 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: I mean in terms of folks who Israel is an 274 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: incredibly important um issue for those images speak for themselves. Yeah, 275 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: there's also a certain element of hedging their bets regarding 276 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: the upcoming Israeli election in early March. One of those 277 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: two candidates likely is going to be Prime minister either 278 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: Nan Yeah, who continuing on are Benny Gantz taking over? 279 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: So it's building up that relationship and making nice with 280 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: them one way or another. And even though Trump has 281 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: been with net Yahoo, we know he doesn't like a loser, 282 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: and he's seeing net Yahoo's popularity decline over some time. 283 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: But that's smart because friends, it shows Elie that the 284 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: president is not with he's with Israel. Yeah. I think 285 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: that's what the Republican Party is to these days, and 286 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: then said, I mean, and I would say the Democrats, right, 287 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: doesn't forget that's a play to the evangelical vote. Right, 288 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: that's the Christian evangelicals who really and um, Israel stabilized. 289 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: I think a lot of you know, fewer Jewish voters 290 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: or Israel First voters anymore, and um, some of them 291 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: are not happy with Trump. They're so unhappy that Trump 292 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: that it almost wouldn't matter if he created peace in Israel. 293 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: I think we also want to note that the Palestinian 294 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: side is not going to be there, So it's kind 295 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: of like the two sides that agree are negotiating on 296 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: a peace deal without the other side there. Well, you 297 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: bring up the evangelicals. The president today speaking at the 298 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: March for Life. He was the first president ever to 299 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: do that. I don't know, Eli, and I'm curious on 300 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: your perspective of the polls whether or not that will 301 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: help or hurt him with independent voters. I mean, he's 302 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: been pretty solid with the evangelicals for a long time. Um, 303 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: he's not doing great with independence right now, but he's 304 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: not horrible. UM. But I think we've seen throughout this 305 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: that the biggest thing for Trump right now was focusing 306 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: on keeping his base there. Evangelical votes is like key 307 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: to that. Um that the abortion stuff today was very 308 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: important for him. A double down on this and something 309 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: that you can go as next year with. Yeah, it's 310 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: an extension of the same issue of having these Raeli 311 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: leaders at the White House. Is playing to that base 312 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: in an election year, knowing who you have to get 313 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: out both sides, whether it's the Trump campaign or the 314 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: eventual Democratic nominee. There's not much persuasion to be done. 315 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: People know how they feel about Trump one way or 316 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: the other. It's just about getting out your voters and 317 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: maybe shaving down support from the other side a bit, 318 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: but really getting out your own side. All right, folks, 319 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: coming up, we're gonna talk more politics and policy, plus 320 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: what's on the panel's radar with our esteemed friends Eli Ocally, Wendy, Benjaminson, 321 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: and David Mark. I'm Kevin Curreli, the chief Washington correspondent 322 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. You can download the 323 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound on podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, 324 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also 325 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: find me on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. 326 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be a good weekend, right, It's gonna 327 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: you a great weekend. We finally got it. We've got 328 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: gratitude that we are here on Friday. We have two 329 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: days before the primary and caucus season begins and Ernst 330 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: and we will be covering every angle you're listening to Bloomberg. 331 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Siilli, chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and 332 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Eli Yoakles here, Windom, Wendy, Benjaminson, and David Mark. 333 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: All Right, folks, we gotta talk about because Wendy and 334 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: I are headed to Iowa next week to des Moine 335 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: and all right, well, let's set the scene for us. 336 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: What's what's going on in Iowa? Who's up? Who's down? 337 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: The impeachments put some folks with disadvantages, at least according 338 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: to Bernie. But I think Bernie's actually doing a masterful 339 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: job of managing expectations because he is, according to the polls, 340 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: doing pretty well. He is doing pretty well right now. 341 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: And the truth is what makes uh Iowa really interesting 342 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: right now is that it's a jump ball. I mean, 343 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: there's these four candidates, four to five candidates, all bunched 344 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: up at the top. That would be Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, 345 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren, and then Pete Buddha Diggion maybe even naming 346 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: Club Atar. She's gathering up some endorsements. She you know, 347 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: as we all know, got the New York Times endorsement 348 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: the same day she got the Quad City Times endorsement, 349 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: and I think the latter is probably more important. For 350 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: because voters in Iowa care much more about the Quad 351 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: City Times in the New York Times. UM. But you know, 352 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: any one of them could come out the winner right now. 353 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: So it's it makes it kind of exciting. Eli UM. Nationwide, 354 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: it's been pretty flat the last couple of weeks. I 355 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: mean a lot of the movement we're sitting is on 356 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: the ground in some of these states. The one thing 357 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: that's really stuck out to us is the namesick of 358 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: this network is is Mike Bloomberg has surpassed Peep Villages 359 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: for fourth place in this race nationwide. That money he's 360 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: spending in early states is helping him get better known 361 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: by voters nationwide, and it's also getting him some first 362 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: choice votes share. But how okay, But but he's not 363 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: pulling in Iowa, he's not pulling in New Hampshire. So 364 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we're gonna have political scientists tell us. 365 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we'll find out after all of that. 366 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: But I mean your thoughts about you can still sex 367 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: some delegates, I mean, those aren't the only two races 368 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: totally disagree. I gotta interrupt here because they said the 369 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: same now, because this is you know, I gotta I 370 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: gotta just say this. You can't stack delegates, no matter 371 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: what you think. It's never worked. And Americans believe that 372 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: when you vote, you vote, and so yes, there's all 373 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: of these processes. But don't you think that all of 374 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: the coverage of who wins Brian Mary and who wins 375 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: it whatever, that that means something to American voters? Well, 376 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: except try running statewide in California, Texas and a dozen 377 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: other states of Super Tuesday. It is incredibly expensive. And 378 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: if you can flood the market with campaign ads, it's 379 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: really complicated to win delegates in those states, and you've 380 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: got a lot of money, you can. Maybe I'm wrong, 381 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: and I'll and I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, 382 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: but and you can play the tape back when or 383 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I don't but I think it's just 384 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: a Beltway obsession. It just this delegate chatter. I remember 385 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: last cycle. We all have these meetings, we all have 386 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: these books. They printed out all of these papers. Ted 387 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: Cruz could have a delicate fight. Ted Cruise could win 388 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: on the floor. Ted Cruise got booed at the Republican 389 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: National Committee convention. I would wonder how much some of 390 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: these early states are a belt Way obsession. I mean, honestly, 391 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: this is a contest that plays out over weeks and 392 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: weeks and weeks the DNC right, Sorry, yes, you're absolutely right, 393 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: it does. But it's all about momentum. Right. People like 394 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: to see who their neighbors, whether it's the neighbor next 395 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: door in the neighboring state, or voting for it. So 396 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: let's just say that Biden wins Iowa, one of the 397 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: New Englander's, probably Sanders wins New Hampshire. Then Biden wins 398 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: Nevada and South Carolina. This is I have no idea 399 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: if any of this is happening. This is purely hypothetical, 400 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: except I wish you could see how Wendy's painting her 401 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: words with her hand. You must be Italian. There's probably 402 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: they because I'm half Italian. I talked with my hands, 403 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: but I was looking at I was like, I felt 404 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: like I was back in Delko for a second watching 405 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: Wendy with I'm thinking, Okay, I'm following that. There's a state. 406 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: There's a state. Sorry, go ahead. So let's say Biden 407 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: goes the first four states, which are relatively small states, 408 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: and comes out of there with three wins and a 409 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: and a place. Most Americans are going to go, Okay, 410 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: he's a winner. He's got some wins. I maybe I'll 411 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: take a second look at him. Plus some of the 412 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: lower level candidates are going to drop out. That's true, 413 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: and he does have that name recognition. What he might 414 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: be lacking though, is money. He's had some problems with fundraising. 415 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: It's got a little better lass quarter Biden Biden. Yeah, 416 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: he's been way behind Bernie Sanders, even Pete Botag. It's 417 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: not doing terribly, but not the kind of money that 418 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: you can charter jets just a whim. He's ahead of 419 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: Pete Buda Judge a little now. But also he's um uh. 420 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: He also has a superpack backing him. Remember that. Yeah. 421 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: What I think is really interesting at this point in 422 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: the race is, even after that New York Times endorsement 423 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: that Washington d C. Cares a lot about is we're 424 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: not talking about it. I mean, she was somebody who 425 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about for a lot in October, in the summer, 426 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: and she's she's sort of flight lines here. Well, did 427 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: you see that memo she put out today? Go on 428 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: her campaigned Her campaign manager put out a memo that 429 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: I was calling to the to the staff a proof 430 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: of life video. It was like, you know when someone's 431 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: kid up. It was like, don't worry. I have the money, 432 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: I have the support to keep going past Super Tuesday, 433 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: and I promise if I do that, I will support 434 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: Downvallid candidates. So she was like, you know, come on, 435 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: remember vote for me. I'm going to help you if 436 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: I if I keep winning. And so, because she isn't 437 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: a lot of she wasn't first in Iowa. Now she's 438 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: third or fourth, and she's fourth in New Hampshire, which 439 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: is a neighboring state. Wow, that's a tough one. What's 440 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: been interesting to me is Bernie Sanders hasn't really taken 441 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: a hit for this woman thing. That was a big, big, 442 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: big issue during the debate, this accusation that he said 443 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: a woman couldn't win the presidency. We were in a poll. 444 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, well, I'll tell you. We were in 445 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: a poll last weekend about asking Democratic voters if they 446 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: the easiest and most difficult qualities to have to win 447 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: the presidency, and one of the worst was being a woman. 448 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: The most comfortable qualities that Democratic voters seeing their candidates 449 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: as a white person in a man and so I 450 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: think that shows what we're seeing in a lot of 451 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: the top line numbers here is that some of these 452 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: more traditional, older white guys are sort of leading the pack. 453 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: What about Biden in terms of his support in New 454 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: Hampshire in Iowa, Um, I think that we've seen a 455 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: lot of the polls have been pretty close around there. 456 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: Really his campaign is going to be sufficient. And I 457 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: mean because he's continued to lead nationally. Yeah. Um, look, 458 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: he's also in the top tier in Iowa. I mean 459 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: he's in the top two. He could win all four, 460 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 1: he could win three or four, you can win two 461 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: of them. Fore, but he's pretty well about well positioned 462 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: as any of them are for all four early contests 463 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 1: over the months of February and I was been a 464 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: tough place for Joe Biden. I mean, in seven he 465 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: had to drop out because of the plagiarism allegations. Remember 466 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: when that was a big scandal. Yeah, yeah, that could 467 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: that could stop at presidential campaign back in seven. And 468 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: then um in two thousand and eight, of course, he 469 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: lost to a young app star named Barack Obama. So 470 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: that's kind of what Pete Buotagage is hoping to replicate, 471 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: but I think he's Pete Boutagage is part of the 472 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: shiny new thing that may have already passed. Okay, so expectations, 473 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: let's say so, I want to ask each of you them. 474 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: We've got just a couple of minutes we have sometime here. 475 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: But in terms of expectations for the top tier Biden Bernie, 476 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: do you want to call Warren top two? I mean, 477 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: who who? Who is the biggest for Iowa? Let's just 478 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: stick with Iowa. Eli, Who's who? What are the expectations 479 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: for Iowa? For Biden and Bernie? I think they both 480 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: are pretty compelled candidates there. I think they both so 481 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: if they don't finish one and two in either scenario, 482 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: it's problematic for their campaigns. In terms of momentum, I 483 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: don't know necessarily. I mean Bernie has New Hampshire. Biden 484 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: has places like South Carolina and Nevada. I mean Biden 485 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: has some certain momentsum we think I've been going into 486 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: some of these early states. Yeah, back in two thousand sixteen, 487 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: Bernie lost by a here in Iowa, just below Hillary Clinton. 488 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: So he's clearly got a lot of support there, but 489 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: I do think he has been careful to manage expectations. 490 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: They're not planned on a win, but you can tell 491 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: the Sanders campaign thinks they just might pull through and win, 492 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: and they are shifting their message. We had a story 493 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: on the terminal and on the web last weekend that 494 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: said that he is shifting his message ever so slightly 495 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: Bernie to focus on electability. I mean, he's he he 496 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: got his following, and he got his following both in 497 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: sixteen and twenty. I think I'm a radical. I'm a socialist. 498 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: Love it or leave it, you know, I mean, like, 499 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: love me or leave me. And he had this very 500 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: very static group of supporters. And now that he's saying 501 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: he's beginning to attract some other people, at least Warren 502 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: supporters or moving over to Sanders that, um, he's starting 503 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: to go, look, I'm not the radical, you know. I mean, 504 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: look better, care for all will work this way and 505 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: it'll be fine. And it's not that I'll tell you. 506 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: I just think I am so incredibly. I get Trump 507 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: vibes whenever I see him campaigning, because he's he's he's 508 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: I get that from Warren really well. I think she's 509 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: an amazing campaigner. Well, but I think from Noine, I 510 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: would agree with that. I agree, totally agree Burnie and 511 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: and Warn, I think that you have that. But there's 512 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: there's something about the Sanders campaign in terms of just 513 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: how passionate the supporters are. They've been criticized for it. 514 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: The Hulu thing with Hillary. By the way, I was 515 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: on a lot of flights. I'm off to the races now. 516 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: I was on a lot of flights with the with 517 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: the traveling press for the Secretary day. Let me tell 518 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: you all the buzz on those flights was Hillary and Hulu. 519 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that was I gotta watch that more than 520 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: I gotta watch The Crown. So forget about Megan and Harry. 521 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: I was obsessed with that for a second. Now I'm 522 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: obsessed with Hillary's Hulu documentary. That was amazing. I mean, 523 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: but it helped Bernie. It helped Bernie because that line 524 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: like nobody likes him. That's like it's like high school. 525 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody likes and we don't like him. It 526 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: also allows Bernie to play the victim one more time. 527 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: He could go back to you and say, yeah, I 528 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: was robbed in the nomination. They rigged in the and 529 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: then there was the debate problem with the question, ETCeteras 530 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: he's best politically when he's playing the victim. Well that's 531 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: all right. I just wow, Hillary Clinton say, which you 532 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: what I mean? She just threw that gauntlet down and 533 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: she can grab a new cycle. I think if there's 534 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: one thing she proved, she can grab a news cycle 535 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: in this in this race. And and you know it's interesting, 536 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: all right, coming up grab the second one with a 537 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: walk back. Well, we gotta coming up. We'll talk more 538 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: about this because I can't get away from it. I'm 539 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Sirley. What's on their radar? We'll talk and Hillary 540 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: and Hulo. You're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. 541 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin Curreli on Bloomberg and one oh 542 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: five point seven f M h D two. I'm Kevin Cirelli, 543 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg TV and Radio. Just as 544 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: a disclaimer, as we talk about all things twenty Michael 545 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: Bloomberg is the founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, 546 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: the parent company of Bloomberg News. Eli Oakleys here, political 547 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: reporter from Morning consult Wendy Benjaminson Bloomberg politics editor and 548 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 1: David Mark, Deputy news editor at The Washington Examiner. All Right, 549 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: we gotta talk more about this Hillary and Hulu thing, 550 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: because I was on the plane with the Secretary of 551 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: State all week, and I mean, I'm very focused on 552 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: the five countries and five days and fascinating developments with 553 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Jangwaido and Venezuela, and also about all of the work 554 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: that's being done by the seventy thou employees of the 555 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: State Department, many most of whom are a political and 556 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: they're and they're serving their country embassies all around the world. 557 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: And not to be honest, soapbox, but I don't want to. 558 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: I don't want this to sound like am on a soapbox. 559 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: But when you see it, when you go to these 560 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: embassies in these places and you see the sacrifices that 561 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: all of these people are making, it it really gives 562 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 1: you an appreciation, just the same way that we as 563 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: Americans have an appreciation for people serving in the military. 564 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: And So that said, Hillary and Hulu pops all throughout 565 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: the week, and we were talking about this before the break, 566 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to kind of conclude that conversation 567 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: before we do what's on the radar. But when you 568 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: were making this point about whether about how it helps 569 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, but also how Hillary could still drive a 570 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: conversation in the in the cycle, Hillary has Hillary Clinton 571 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: not on a first name basis. We are former Secretary 572 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: of State and the US Senatorie, we do um. But 573 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Mrs Clinton has an amazing power to drive a news cycle. 574 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: And if you notice, she not only drove one new cycle, 575 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: she drove too because she waited for twenty four hours 576 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: to walk back the main thing she said about Senator Sanders. 577 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be polite in the least, but she 578 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: also did that with Tulsey Gabbert. She did, and now 579 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: Telsey Gabert suing heer, so she got a third news 580 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: cycle this way. Wow, David, But we're just talking off here. 581 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: My issue with Hillary is when she says something like this, 582 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: she just doesn't own it. When Donald Trump said something 583 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: edgy or controversial, he's all in on it. Other politicians 584 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: due too. It's really the only way to go politicians. 585 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: I mean, one of the interesting thing to me to 586 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: me is who cares what Hillary Clinton says today? We 587 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: did some pulling in this last year and found the 588 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: strength of her endorsement among Democrats has wayne since even 589 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: two and in eighteen, behind the Obama's and Joe Biden 590 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: and Bernie Um. I don't know how many people are 591 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: listening to her today, but they're certainly curious. Wow it, 592 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm gonna kind of like Sarah Pellin. 593 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah right, no, absolutely, But did people really listen to 594 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: Sarah Pellin? I mean Hillary Clinton? No, I know, but 595 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: in the sense that when they talk it's interesting what 596 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: they have that you want to hear what they have 597 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: to say. But I think to that point, I mean, 598 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: what what would a Hillary Clinton endorsement mean? But what 599 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: the thing is, Democrats have a tradition of bearing they're 600 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: losing presidential nominees. Usually they don't want them at the conventions. 601 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: She's different because of course she's a former Secretary of State, senator, 602 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: first lady national figure. But usually they just like these 603 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: people to go away and never speak in public. Again. 604 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: I think that's true. I also maybe it would give 605 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: an impreymetter of of approval for some women voters. I 606 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: think suburban women voters who still maybe like Mrs Glennon 607 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: a bit might be more inclined if she if she 608 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: said Joe Biden, they'd forget things they didn't like about 609 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. All right now, and it'll be fascinating to 610 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: see if she speaks at the convention. All right, what's 611 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: on the panel's radar? I've got two things on my radar, 612 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: but so I'm gonna go first and last. Can I 613 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: do that? Thank you? Okay. The first thing on my 614 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: radar is Venezuela. Huang Wide Oh. He is, of course 615 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: the president of Venezuela that the US recognizes and fifty 616 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: other countries. And he was with UM, with the Colombian 617 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: President Duque in Colombia and Secretary of State and Peo. 618 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: He he defied a travel band in Venezuela because Dictator 619 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: Maduro is still holding on too, clinging onto power, being 620 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: propped up by the Cubans and uh the Russians as well, 621 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: and he defied this travel band and really just had 622 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: this showing. And then he went to Davos, and the 623 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: question of whether or not he's a will to go 624 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: back into Venezuela is something that is very much on 625 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: my radar. He's this charismatic, thirty five year old leader. 626 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: You talk about Barack Obama, and you talk about people 627 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: to Jedge, you talk about Marco Rubio and in terms 628 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: of their youth. To see this guy who grew up 629 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: in blue collar Venezuela and really amass this following and 630 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: to see that in person, and to see that risking 631 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: his life for Venezuela, I mean, it's a fascinating story 632 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: and one that really will play out and shape shape 633 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: the region for for a very long time to come. 634 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: Kevin was talking with his hands too. I always I 635 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: always said this funny. I have always been a talker 636 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 1: with the hands. It's Italian. All right, That's what's That's 637 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: the first thing. It's on my radar, and then I'll 638 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: go last. Okay, David. I'm looking at the surrogates for 639 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: all the candidates, specifically the three or four senators who 640 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: were stuck here in d C for this impeachment trial, 641 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: however long it goes. Michael Moore is camping out in 642 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: Iowa on behalf of Bernie Sanders for the next several days, 643 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: really almost until the caucus, so it'll be interesting. Usually 644 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: I think surrogates and endorsements that kind of thing don't matter, 645 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: but these are unusual circumstances. So it's an interesting test 646 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: watching for witnesses in the trial. Joe Biden said this 647 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: week that he wouldn't do it, but there's the prospect 648 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: of of John Bolton out there and some of these 649 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: vulnerable senators, people like Mitt Romney who has shown some indication, 650 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: or Roxander who's retiring, so it's still possible. We'll see, 651 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to take a different angle. My 652 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: on my radar is the news that thirty four US 653 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: troops suffered traumatic brain injury and the Iranian strike on 654 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: the Iraqi facility. This is just a huge story. It 655 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: is we didn't know about it now, you know. It's 656 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: not apparently they didn't report. The ones who weren't too 657 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: seriously injured didn't report their injuries for several days, so 658 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: it's not like there was some big cover up. But um, 659 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: the President did at first dismiss them as headaches, um, 660 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: and traumatic brain injury is obviously much more than that. 661 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: So my thought is with the troops and their families, 662 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: seventeen more so in hospital. Yes, I mean that's let's 663 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: let's pause for that for a second. Seventeen of these 664 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: troops are still in the hospital. They suffered traumatic brain 665 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: injuries during the for their bravery, for for what that 666 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: happened with the killing of General Solomony. I mean that 667 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: is it's still I I still don't understand why we 668 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: don't have a clear picture of what happened in the 669 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: sense that it could highlight the bravery of the men 670 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: and women who serve in uniform. I think. Um, I 671 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: will say, I used to be involved in national security 672 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: coverage at another news organization, and I will tell you 673 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: the Pentagon communications has changed from the Obama administration to 674 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: the Trump administration. It and and it's not even like 675 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: a critique story. It's it's more of a highlighting of 676 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: the bravery. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely? I 677 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: mean thirty four troops, uh, you know, suffered injuries, combat injuries. 678 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: It was an Iranian strike that precipitated the killing of 679 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: Solomoni Um and they were injured foreign attack and we 680 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: should honor them for that. We should honor them. They 681 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: deserve all of our gratitude and all of our appreciation. 682 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: Uh Okay. So the final thing, that's that that's a 683 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: great one. You win, Wendy Well, I mean Wendy Wendy one, 684 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: because that's a great it's a really important important to 685 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: note and important to remember and to keep perspective as 686 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: we enter into as we sprint through the marathon and 687 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: the weeks to uh yeah, we're still um. Alfalpha Club 688 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: dinners tomorrow night. Speaking of silly, nothing against the Alfalfa Club, 689 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: but no, it'll be interesting to see who shows up. 690 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: It's of course the social club that exists for their 691 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: black tie banquet on the last Saturday of January. It's 692 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: going to be at the Capitol. Hilton will be a 693 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: who's who speaking bit Romney's speaking at the Alfalfa Club. Wow, 694 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: it's pretty funny when he wants to be, you know, 695 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: I will say, as we talk a lot about Hillary 696 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: and Hulu, the best political documentary that I've seen is 697 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: Mitt Romney's on Netflix. I'm telling you he should have 698 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: released that or he ran for president. It might get 699 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: a different outcome, and maybe we'll feel that. Maybe we'll 700 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: say that about Hillary and Hulu because this is the 701 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: most fascinating thing this documentary. If you haven't seen it, 702 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: Mitt Romney and they chronicle all around and they showed it. 703 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: So if you're bored this weekend, watch them at Romney 704 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: Dock President that I was trying to figure out. I 705 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: don't think he is. I don't know. I don't know. 706 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: I'll check. I'll get back to you. Um, big plants, 707 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: Who's who's doing the coolest thing this weekend. I'm gonna 708 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: be on CBS News tomorrow morning. Um, I'll yes, so 709 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: I'll be working too, but I'll be in New York 710 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: City and I get to see my dad tonight. And 711 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: I just want to give a shout out to my 712 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: mom and dad because they're gonna see me in New 713 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: York tonight and I'm so excited to see them. Uh, 714 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: they're awesome. Bring him down here. They were down here 715 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving. Don't come down, don't comes out. I'll get 716 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: them down here, all right. Thanks for listening, everybody. I'll 717 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: see you Monday. I'm going to New York to see 718 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: my parents. I'm excited. They're going up from Delco. You 719 00:36:50,920 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: have a great weekend. You're listening to bloomberg S