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Speaker 2: God, such good actors. It's such improv. We've also already

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully better. We'll redo it so you guys can

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Speaker 2: So I finished it and I just haven't. It's tough

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Speaker 2: They don't mess around. They don't want shitty comics come

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Speaker 1: I went to Charleston last week, which obviously you know,

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Speaker 1: coming back to my I mean it was like real

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00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 1: time he came to me though, and like was like

436
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 1: we should get back together or something. And at first

437
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 1: I was like open to it, and then I said, no,

438
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm really in love with my boyfriend now. So I

439
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: was like, why am I dreaming of all of my

440
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: ex boyfriends? It's almost like what I interpreted that as

441
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 1: this morning was Wow. The interesting thing could be that

442
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 1: maybe my body and brain is just really excited and

443
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 1: happy at where I am right now, and all of

444
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: these other relationships were building blocks to get to this relationship.

445
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: You know, like I don't know if I would be

446
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 1: able to show up how I do show up in

447
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: this relationship if I hadn't had those experiences and then

448
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 1: evolved from that, you know, So I just chose to

449
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: look at it that way, like it was just the

450
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: reminder of where I've been, right then have gratitude for

451
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: where I am now.

452
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes we need those reminders. My other one was

453
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 2: a lot lighter. It was Okay, you know, I lived

454
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 2: in like farmland, and my neighbor was a farmer, the

455
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: older neighbor, and they had barns that were like the

456
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: big tractors and combines could drive into, so they were

457
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,479
Speaker 2: like taller on one side and then sloped down and

458
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 2: got you know, the roof like got pretty low to

459
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 2: the ground. Yeah, And I used to dream that I could.

460
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: I would run across the field and when I got

461
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 2: close to the barn, I would just take off and

462
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: like fly over the thing, and then I would end

463
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 2: up I don't know what those these things are called,

464
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 2: but like in a series of events where like the

465
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: ball rolls down the hill and hits a piece of

466
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: wood and the wood tips and it spills the water, like, okay, God,

467
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: did one of these No, it's like a whole series of.

468
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. Yes, that's a thing,

469
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: and then it all keeps the ball.

470
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: Rolling, yes, and I would I would end up in

471
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 2: one of those things where I was the thing that

472
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 2: was causing all the things to happen.

473
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean it's really.

474
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 2: If anything tells you how fucking weird my brain is,

475
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: it's that.

476
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: Wait, you have that dream over and over.

477
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: Over and over again. Yeah.

478
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're just the little ping that bad I

479
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 1: was the like.

480
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: Ping and I like went through all these like random things.

481
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 1: You guys can see what he's doing with his body

482
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 1: right now.

483
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure on YouTube.

484
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: He's shaking it like he's like this little I don't

485
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: even know what, like a bowling pin. I got a

486
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: little knocked im.

487
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: Like there's a ship. I'm gonna figure out the name

488
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: of that while we're doing this, because that's going to

489
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: drive me crazy. Because there's a band called okay Go

490
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 2: that made a music video that's really famous.

491
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 1: And on the treadmills.

492
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 2: Well they did that too.

493
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: It's a very creative videos idea.

494
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: They're they're amazing.

495
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what you're that dream means though, like

496
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: what what are you on the maze of life? Like

497
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: what is that?

498
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: I have no idea? Oh, it's called a Rube Goldberg machine.

499
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: The videos called this Too Shall Pass and they had

500
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: to they had to do it in one shot. You know.

501
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: It's like and they camera had to follow the thing.

502
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cute.

503
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: It's like the dominoes fall over in the light, the

504
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: match lights and all.

505
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: These Oh yeah, I know exactly what I just love.

506
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: I was I was more. I guess I would be

507
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: more like my character in that dream would have been

508
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 2: more like the camera, like I was following the whole thing.

509
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: But what's wild is that my kid brain thought of

510
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: all of that.

511
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, like if you remembered a

512
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: last dream, But I think this one's a really interesting

513
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: one to think about with this because we were talking

514
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: about the Salesforce thing, for example. He dreamed that up.

515
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: So if you're taking this dream and you would think

516
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: about if there's a business idea that could come from that,

517
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, Yeah, what do you

518
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: think your brain is trying to show you or work

519
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: out with those kind of thoughts?

520
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: I mean that kind of thought, Like, you know, obviously

521
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 2: I was young when that happened, so I wouldn't have

522
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: been thinking about business. But like, if I had to

523
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: translate it from an adult perspective, it is probably that

524
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: like I was on a quest for adventure, you know,

525
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 2: and like recognizing that one thing does lead to another

526
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: and or accepting that one thing leads to another.

527
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: It's all connected and.

528
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: That everything is connected. But yeah, I mean I've had

529
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: this isn't like a sleep dream but and we talked

530
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: about this a little bit before we started recording. But

531
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: I get a lot massages, and I'm able to like

532
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: the only time that I ever remember my body going

533
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: into the state is during massages, where I'm like fully

534
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: aware of the massage, I'm feeling it. I'm like able

535
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: to follow it. But I'm also asleep, kind of asleep.

536
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: And that's when I have business or creative ideas, Like

537
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: I'll think of movie plots and like get very detailed

538
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: into it because I'm in a position where, like I

539
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: can't move, i can't be distracted by my phone, Like

540
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 2: I I'm all I'm there with are my thoughts and

541
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: so I could see how like and it does feel

542
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: like a dream state too. It's like I don't lay

543
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: down being like I'm gonna think of I'm going to

544
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 2: think of a movie, and like my brain just goes

545
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 2: somewhere and I'm like able to follow it and sort

546
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: of guide it so I could see how that would happen.

547
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 2: You know what, if I were fully asleep. The problem

548
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: is is I've probably done that and I wake up

549
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: and don't remember.

550
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was gonna say is after you

551
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: get massages, you really should try to pick up your

552
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 1: phone without I do write, and then write it down

553
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: immediately and then go back later and maybe even try

554
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: to piece things together. But one of the things randomly

555
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: that I've been thinking about recently, and I kind of

556
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: thought about this as I was having downtime last week,

557
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: was I don't really allow myself at this time of

558
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: my life to sit in daydream. And I just remember

559
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: being in my twenties, and obviously that was when I

560
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: was trying to build a career and hearing makeup and styling,

561
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: and so I had a lot more time because you know,

562
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: I was like waiting tables and doing things like that,

563
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: like what, didn't have a demanding job yet. And I

564
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: think now I have such little free time or I

565
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: constantly am filling my schedule with stuff, and I don't

566
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: really allow myself the time to day dream. Well, I

567
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: was thinking about it because we've been talking about kind

568
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: of just re engaging in the creativity and also like

569
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: even social media, Like I'm really wanting to kind of

570
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: reframe how I use it. And I used to love

571
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: it because I would really put a lot of creativity

572
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: too into it was fun. It was like a creative

573
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: outlet for me. And I want to get back to

574
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: that because that was when I really enjoyed it. But

575
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: I think has said. I was sitting there last week

576
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: thinking I feel like I'm wasting time because I was

577
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: kind of just like off in a little daydream. And

578
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: then I thought to myself, no, this is actually I

579
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: need to like almost a lot, like an hour or

580
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: however long. I decide a week to sit and just

581
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: let myself daydream because that is where I create ideas

582
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: and it's always been that way. But I'll shame myself

583
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: for not working or wandering off, and it's like, no,

584
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: actually that is working. That is you know, it could

585
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: be a part of the if we start talking about

586
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: it that way.

587
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: Well, we've also we now live in a world where

588
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: being distracted as normal because constant our time has been

589
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: stolen from us by the phones in our hand and

590
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: the internet and all, like, we're not comfortable just sitting

591
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: alone sure. Yeah, And I think you know a lot

592
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: of us will practice meditation, and that is a very

593
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: like you're not sitting there dreaming during meditation, you're trying

594
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: to actually be devoid of thought. Yeah, and if you

595
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: do practice that, it probably checks a box on your

596
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: day where it's like, Okay, I've done that, like now

597
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: I'm allowed to be distracted by everything, and so looking

598
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: like you know, after having this conversation, and for anyone

599
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: who's listening, maybe this is like the wake up call

600
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: that it's like meditation isn't enough, Like you should find

601
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: thirty minutes a day to like sit undistracted, paying attention

602
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: to your thoughts and like letting your brain sort of

603
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: take you somewhere that you may not have been able

604
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: to go had you been distracted or had the television

605
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: on or even reading a book or whatever.

606
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: That's such a good way to say it, because that's

607
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: what she was saying when she was saying that we're

608
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: just not allowing ourselves the space, like we'll have an experience.

609
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: You and I are doing this podcast right now. In

610
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: the second we hang up, I'll move on to the

611
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: next thing. Instead of just sitting and going okay, well,

612
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: how did that feel you know what came up or whatever,

613
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: like using each moment and kind of talking to your

614
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: body or yourself because your body is still feeling stuff

615
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: or still registering certain experiences and that's why they can

616
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: come up when we finally slow down. I e. What

617
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: happened to me last week? But I think it was

618
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting thing to hear that, because, yeah,

619
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: like it is productive to do. And I think that

620
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: the reason our creativity in this world has dropped so

621
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: drastically is because we're constantly filling our time. So whether

622
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: it's even like on your drive not listening to anything,

623
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: or like I think about when I go on walks,

624
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: that's often when I can kind of go into that

625
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: dayroom state, except I'll put an audiobook on or podcast. Yeah,

626
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: so it's like maybe I actually just need to like

627
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: walk and not actually do anything and let myself.

628
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: You know what's funny too, I was I think it

629
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: was my girl mel It was a podcas Gus. I'll

630
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: listen to do not that long ago. Like our brains

631
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: we make like forty thousand decisions a day crazy and

632
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: you know we don't we're not We're not aware of

633
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: a lot of them. But even when you're on a walk,

634
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: you're going to decide where you're going to turn and

635
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: when you're going to turn around, and what you're going

636
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: to look at, and the sounds that you're going to

637
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: pay attention to. Like, your brain is making decisions for

638
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: you the whole time.

639
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: Right, So, I mean you mentioned moving your feet, breathing,

640
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: like all the things we never think about the fact

641
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: our brain.

642
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, our brain is having to decide to do all

643
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: of that. Yeah, you know, if a car almost hits you,

644
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: it's like your brain has to protect you. Like there's

645
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: so many things that you know, our brain is distracted

646
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: doing its job. So in order to like really tap

647
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: into the depth of it and like the dream state

648
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: of it, you have to put the other shit down. Yeah,

649
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: because you're forcing work on it.

650
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: It's so true. I think a good reframe for me

651
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: is to think about daydreaming as I'm doing something like

652
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: instead of I'm just off in la la land, you know,

653
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: or even to think about how important you know, going

654
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: to sleep and allowing my body to fully relax and

655
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: then wake up and write down what came up, because like,

656
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: as weird as that dream was last night, I wrote

657
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: it down and then it was so interesting because as

658
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: I was like journaling about it, all I wanted to

659
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: do was text my boyfriend and be like, I just

660
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: really love you. I feel like you should know that,

661
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: like I really do you know? And yeah, and I did,

662
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: and it was such like sweet moment that we had

663
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: this morning, and it all came from that weird dream

664
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: I had right that I just interpreted to be showing

665
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: me how happy I am in my life right now

666
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: and like how good that feels.

667
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: You know, that's amazing?

668
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

669
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: Well, you know what's funny is like keep hearing we've

670
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: said the word dream a million times here, and it's

671
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: funny because the word dream has obviously a very positive

672
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: like connotation to it, but it's also there has been

673
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: a negative put it, like stop daydreaming, like or like

674
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: like that's just a that's just a pipe dream, Like

675
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: you're such a dreamer, Like you're never gonna like your

676
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: dreams aren't gonna come true. And it's like and so

677
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: I think, like because of those things, and I would

678
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: imagine that those are mostly thrust upon us by people

679
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: who have not allowed their dreams to come true and

680
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: they're bitter or whatever, like our circumstances didn't allow it.

681
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: They want us. You know, misery loves company. But I

682
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: think it's really important to remind ourselves of the beauty

683
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: of the dream. And no one gets anywhere in life

684
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: without dreaming of the possibility of something better. You have

685
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: to be able to see it to achieve it. And

686
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: whether it's in a subconscious state or a very conscious state,

687
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: or you're choosing to or you're forced to, like, you

688
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: have to like embrace dreams. You know. It's like nobody

689
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: just wakes up rich one day or successful or happy,

690
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: like you have to like paint that pure and figure

691
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: out what that looks like for you and go fucking

692
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: find it.

693
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: Well, someone dreamed up all the wild things we have,

694
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: like AI, any of the Internet, any of it. Yes,

695
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: all of these things that we use all the time, podcast,

696
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: somebody dreamed that up. And so even if obviously not

697
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: all of your dreams come into fruition, it is kind

698
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: of crazy that we don't use these things this as

699
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: this like we don't use dreaming as a tool to

700
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: really be more in touch with ourselves, to know what

701
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: our brains are working through, to tap into our creativity

702
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: to put them into practice in your life even to

703
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: do the what I did this morning like that was good?

704
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's a relationship building. It's like why not

705
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: use these things that we are doing and that that

706
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: are happening in our life as tools and to really

707
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: I think again, connect to yourself is probably one of

708
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: the biggest things that we miss or I know, it's

709
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: like one of the things I'm constantly just trying to

710
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: remind myself slow down, talk to yourself, like are you okay?

711
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: How do you feel like being more conscious versus just

712
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: like running through life and not embracing any of these

713
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: things that are happening.

714
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, life is short. Keep dreaming like I don't.

715
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what else say right now?

716
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: Or so we're selling on the velvet Jede dot com

717
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: just kidding, mer was a pipe dream for our.

718
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: Not all of it. Just we will come back with

719
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: it all right. If you guys have any weird dreams

720
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: or reoccurring dreams, and if you've started to piece together

721
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: any sort of story about them, I would love to

722
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: hear about them. You can always email us at the

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00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: Edge at velvet sedge dot com, or you can hit

724
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: me up on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's Edge Chip.

725
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: I'm at Chipdoors. It's Chip d R S c H.

726
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: And before I go into that actual ending, you can

727
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: also follow us on Instagram at the Velvet's Edge Podcast.

728
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Speaker 1: We will start We're actually going to start building a

729
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: page there so Velvet Edge Podcast. We'll have all sorts

730
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: of content for you guys. We're very excited about some

731
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: upcoming things, So go check that out and give that

732
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: a follow as well. And as you guys go into

733
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Speaker 1: the weekend, I really lost my place there. I was like,

734
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: we go, You're like, hell, is she gonna come back?

735
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Speaker 1: As you guys go into the weekend and you're living

736
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: on the edge, I hope you always remember too A

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Speaker 1: casual yeah, and go watch us on YouTube. Okay, bye,