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Visit audible dot com, slash I 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: heart or text I Heeart to five hundred, five hundred. 28 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: My next guest played ten years in the NFL. That's 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: that's that's a lot, and retired in t He began 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: his career with the Philadelphia Eagles, Super Bowl champion Phillials 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles and also played for the Carolina Panthers and 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: the Kansas City the cheap Boy. He got two teams 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: in the in the playoffs. Working work as the Magic 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: right here now. He is a business owner, motivational speaker, 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: and football analysts. I liked all three of those right there. 36 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: Business owner, motivational speaker, and football analysts. All that's all 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: that love all that. As the business owner, he oversees 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: launch trampoline park in a Deptford, New Jersey. The park 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: has a Ninja obstacle course, rock climbing, indoor playground, trampoline activities, 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: laser tag and active arcade games. He plans to open 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: multiple parks throughout the Philadelphia area and launch Launch Dr Raine. 42 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: Launch called Launch dr Raine, New Jersey is currently under construction. 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: Please working the money making conversation. I'm gonna call him 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: a friend. He's a motivational, he's a business owner. And 45 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: guess what, he's a football analyst. Jason Navan, how you doing? 46 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: But well, first of all, you know you are you 47 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: know you've been out ten years. Man. I would tell 48 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: people about this about a football players, professional professional football players. 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: That's something I cannot do. Man. I look at man, 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: I go, here's the here's here's a deal. You running 51 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: in one direction? Did somebody say, I guess what, I'm 52 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna running the same ops directed just as fast at you. 53 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah? And then but then you don't slow 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: down though, really really no, Ye, you've learned, you've learned 55 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: or shine over over the year. That that that that flight, 56 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: that that fear, that fear thinking your brain there that 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: that that kind of saves you to run. You kind 58 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: of see here that part and you just keep going 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: full speed. It's just it's a trained behavior. Over over 60 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: a period of time, you just that type of fear 61 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't bother you anymore. And that's that's a blessing though, 62 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, you take that 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: same fear or lack of fear and to you and 64 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: you turned it into your known football playing life. Correct, Yes, yes, yep, 65 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: so um. I what happened was is that I'm right 66 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: around my seventh year, no sixth year. Um, I'm sitting 67 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: in the locker room, and before you know it, like 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: a lot of my friends are just like leaving, like left, 69 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: going right. I've seen dimes in me to have um 70 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: get released Ryan Dawkins, a bunch of guys that are 71 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: that are being a Hall of Fame one day and 72 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking around like, man, I don't know any of 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: these guys. My locker made change in every two days, 74 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: because that's the nature of the beast. The average careers 75 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: like two and a half years, so um guys are 76 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: in and out of the locker room. I said, you 77 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: know what football means, Nation Football League, not for loan. 78 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: So I got to get get this, get this thing together. 79 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: And I went back to University of Michigan, UM took 80 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 1: UM boot camps, UM there about UM franchising and also 81 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: startups and UH and and continue my education there. And 82 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: before you know it, I began to look into family 83 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: entertainment centers. And while I was playing, I didn't wait 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: till I was done. While I was playing in the 85 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: off season, I would just going shadow the general manager, 86 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: figure out how to do scheduling, figure out how to 87 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: work birthday parties, figure out how to do inventory, different 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: things like that, just to broaden my understanding of the business. 89 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: And before you know it, I begin to like fall 90 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: in love with being around the kids, and also that 91 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: the idea of bringing entertaining fitness to kids something that 92 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: will not only um, you know, help you to make money, 93 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: but it's actually a value there because kids are so 94 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: inundated with social media, video games and everything else and 95 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: they don't get a chance to go outside like we did. 96 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: So I could bring activity to them in a fun 97 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: manner in a safe place with the Trampline park. And 98 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: I thought that was a great business move for me 99 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: personally wanting to be around kids, but also UM a 100 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: chance to further m myself as a person um with 101 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: opening up a business. Now when I hear this description, 102 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: am I assuming that it's indoors? Yeah? Yeah, so so 103 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: basically yeah, so it's it's an indoor so we do 104 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: it's indoor family entertainment, So, um, it's indoor. We have 105 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: thirty five tho square foots of of indoor spaces and 106 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: a retail shopping center right next to hobby lobby, right 107 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: next to olive guard those things. So it's it's basically 108 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: David Busters but active. So we do a little bit 109 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: of arcades. We do laser tag for people that may 110 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: not have the ability to be active. But you have 111 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: water wall, trampolines, you can do American Ninja Warrior, you 112 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: can do rock climbing, you can do a bunch of 113 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: things that will um keep you in shape and kids 114 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: um won't even know that they're working out because they're 115 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: having so much fun. We do uh dunking on on 116 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: basketball goals off trampolines. We do dodgeball like we had 117 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: in grade school, but it's but it's on trampoline, so 118 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: it's a fun experience for kids. Now here's the great 119 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: part about it, because you went through you went to 120 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: uh Michigan. Got the number one thing they say about 121 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: opening the business parking. You gotta have a parking space 122 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: and you gotta put yourself in a position where where 123 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: what traffic sees you that you're not paying for. So 124 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: when I hear you can talk about that, tell tell 125 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: my audience why that's so important. Oh yeah, you want 126 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: to be visible. So that's the thing, like and you 127 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: want to our Our business is a destination business, so 128 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people are looking for family um or 129 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: kids activities. But you never know how many people are 130 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: going past, you know, olive garden on the weekend, Like 131 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: we have the number two olive garden in the country. 132 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: So we just have a lot of eyes on our business. 133 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: There people Oh, I didn't know that was there, um 134 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: and and or they're going to Berlins and co fact 135 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: and say, oh, what's that place at the end of 136 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: the corner. So you want to be seen because that 137 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: traffic is just automatic marketing for you. And before you 138 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: know that someone pops in your door, they ask for information. 139 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: Before you know you have a birthday party, pick um 140 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: and In our business, parking is key because it's like 141 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: you and and it and it's in most it's in 142 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: most um towns. Um you know, uh laws and and 143 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: and in their zoning that you have to have a 144 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: certain amount of parking spaces per um the size of 145 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: your business. So um, you want to have people to 146 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: have direct access to your business because you don't want 147 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: them to go to a competitor, because it in a 148 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: more convenient spot and um, and and and being in 149 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: the retail shop center is ideal for us. Our moms 150 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: feel safe for dropping their kids off rather than the 151 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: industrial park or somewhere else. That's that's not on a 152 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: on the beaten I mean that's off the beaten trail. 153 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: That's important that I'm talking to. Jason Navant, he played 154 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: ten years in the NFL, and about that six year 155 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: he realized that he needs to have a plan, an 156 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: exit plan for him and and and and doing so, 157 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: he re educating himselves, extended his education before pass what 158 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: he knew. It wasn't about having money in the bank. 159 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: It's about what do I do when I retire? And 160 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: then doing so, he's launched. Uh, I'd like to say 161 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: that this was very kid friendly physically fun. Yeah, exactly so. Yeah, 162 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: and and that's the thing like you like. The thing 163 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: about it is money, money has wings and that it'll 164 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: fly away fast. Right. So if you're just no matter 165 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: how much money you're accum late, if you don't have 166 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: a plan on how to make more money and or 167 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: preserve the money that you have, it would be going 168 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: like that. And I knew that God blessed me with 169 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: the gift and ability and a lot of hard work 170 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: in order to make it to the National Football League, 171 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't want that to be the 172 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: end for me. And and I'm always reaching, I'm always 173 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: trying to attain. I'm always trying to get better. And 174 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: I thought that one of the things that I can 175 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: do in order to get better is to put my 176 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: money to good use and first of all, educate myself 177 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: working in the parks, go back to school. Um. I 178 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: graduated from University of msgan Uh. You know, before I 179 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: played in the NFL, but I wanted to work in 180 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: the park to see if I liked it, And that 181 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: was the biggest thing. I just didn't do something. I 182 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: went to see if I liked it first, And when 183 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: I found out that I really liked it and loved it, 184 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: that's when I started to really pursue it. Hey, Jason, Uh, 185 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: thank you. We're gonna be right back with more because 186 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: I want to hear about the motivational speaker side, because uh, 187 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: that's important because he's articulate. He has a story to 188 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: tell and we want to learn more about it and 189 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: where we can catch him on Live Jason Navan, he's 190 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: flying high because the Eagles are flying high. More moneymaking conversations. Hi, 191 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: this with Sean McDonald. I'm talking to Jason Navan Um 192 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: University of Michigan grad. Why receiver played ten years ducking 193 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: and dodging, but that six year mark, you know, he 194 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: decided eight it's some people disappearing and it's locker room 195 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: and we're out of plan. And guess what he decided 196 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: to formulate his own plan. And I always tell people 197 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: this all the time, And Jason, is that make your 198 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: own decision and don't allow people make decisions for you 199 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: because when you get there, and I tell this to 200 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: a lot of people. Anybody who's ever gotten fired or 201 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: terminated for a job, they always knew they were gonna 202 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: get fired. They were just waiting for you to make 203 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: that decision. So and so when I when I when 204 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: I listened look to your resume and your bio. It 205 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: was just talking about motivation and I see you know 206 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: they said you have spoken to the Philadelphia seventy six 207 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: is the Philadelphia Eagles, the Kansas City Chiefs. Now you're 208 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: talking to people with a lot of money who may 209 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: not know what to do with that money, but there's 210 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: a lot of arrogance about their level of success at 211 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: that point. Yeah, what what what? What's your goals when 212 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: you when you walk in the room to try what 213 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: what are you trying to motivate them about these high profiles? Well, 214 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: the first thing is is that with any audience, when 215 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: you're trying to motivate them, is that you're trying to identify. 216 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: So you're trying to identify with them and create a 217 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: space where they can receive information from you. All Right, 218 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: So you have to either bring yourself to them in 219 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: some type of way. And the way that I do 220 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: that with a lot of the athletes, the athletes, it 221 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: is the easiest way to get because I am an athlete, 222 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: but a lot of us come from broken homes, A 223 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: lot of us come from areas that inner city. And 224 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: what I do is I start off with a story 225 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: to let them know that I'm coming from majority of 226 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: the guys in this room. You know, I'm coming from 227 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: the same space as you. I come from the South 228 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: Side of Chicago. I grew up with games, I grew 229 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: up around drugs, I grew up around a bunch of 230 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: different things. And I share this story of how my 231 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: grandmother and my coaches, and how people around me got 232 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: me out of games, got me out of the streets, 233 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: got me out of, you know, a bad mindset, and 234 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: automatically that's instant credibility with them, right and and and 235 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: it got and and and it gives me a space 236 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: to talk about the things that I've I want to 237 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: speak about them, but I have to make that connection first. 238 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: And I think all too many times, no matter who 239 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: you are, even if your story is different, I think 240 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: the first key and any motivational speaking is to try 241 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: to make a connection with them and some type of 242 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: manner so they can receive information from you. It's basically 243 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: like breaking up the ground before to see this planet. 244 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: And that's how you have to approach any motivation speaking. 245 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: Find out the area that you can connect with them 246 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: so they can open up themselves so you can so 247 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: you can deliver the message that you're trying to disseminate. 248 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: That's important because that's that's how I try to do 249 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: on my show, is that you know, my my, My 250 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: breaking ground with you is let you know that I 251 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: can't do what you do, you know, and and and 252 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: that's important because it humbles me. And it also gives 253 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: you respect because of the fact that that and and 254 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of things that I and that I 255 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: used the word humble because to go back to school 256 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: and continue education, A lot of people will see that 257 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: as a failure. You saw that as an asset. So 258 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: when you made that decision to continue your education, how 259 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: did the people around you react? Hey man, you, hey man, 260 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: don't you have money? What do you know? You know 261 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: a lot of people have a lot. I remember when 262 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: I left IBM to pursue a career as a stand 263 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: up comedian. Man, there was so many people looking at 264 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: me like I was crazy. You will tell Joe, sure, well, 265 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: well how are you gonna tell that? And you know, honestly, 266 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell him how I was gonna make money. 267 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: I just knew I was gonna make money. So you 268 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: are a very confident person, correct, Jason, Yes, yeah, And 269 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: you and you have to, and you have to and 270 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: you have to be because what I've learned is is 271 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: that the person that you have to um, you have 272 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: to You can't lie to the person that you're look 273 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: in the mirror at night, and you have to do 274 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: what your the heart, the heart desire is right, because 275 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: it's too hard in this life to try to fake it, 276 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: to try to impress people. Whatever is in your heart, 277 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: whatever is burning, whatever is that purpose, whatever is that 278 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: that desire is in your heart, you have to satisfy 279 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: that yearning and that desire. So if that means for 280 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: me listen in order for me to feel calm for 281 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: them in order for me to feel um, you know, capable, 282 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: and to to to feel like I can run this business. 283 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: Me getting the education. See a lot of times people 284 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: want to throw money at it. Money is not always 285 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: the answer. The answer when you have when you have 286 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: a few dollars, if you get the education, it's not 287 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: necessarily about the degree. It's about the information. And that's 288 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: when education is the most important. When it's not about okay, 289 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: me getting the job raised, It's about learning the information. 290 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: Because if I can learn the information, I can apply 291 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: it and using in certain areas that money will try 292 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: to chase me down and jump in my pocket. Wow. 293 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: Now let's go back to your your your your business, 294 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: because because I love the whole thing about being an entrepreneur. 295 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: You know, you know, I always tell people working a 296 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: normal job always really prepared you for being an entrepreneur. 297 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: They teaching to a discipline and being on time. They 298 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: they're teaching your rules and teaching you how to work 299 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: with other people. And a lot of people don't understand 300 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: that you talked about Okay, I didn't know that. So 301 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: you shadow people who had businesses. So you you you 302 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: you do a lot of bad I want people to 303 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: really hear your story because you cashually talk about these things, 304 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: but you're doing all the important little things that make 305 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: people success. If you don't know, you're gonna hang out 306 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: around people who do. Know. If you feel you need 307 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: to be educated, you break up. You said inside of 308 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: time to be re educated. You don't mind reinventing yourself. 309 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: You don't mind letting people think that ignore the fact 310 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: that I don't have a flaw. I just want to 311 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: get better. And a lot of people use excuses to 312 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: educate themselves and reintervent themselves as a sign of failure. 313 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: You just say, hey, man, I gotta do what I 314 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: gotta do to get to my dreams. And my dreams 315 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: are tied to me, uh, shadowing people who know more 316 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: than me, by educating myself more, by a long people, 317 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: being in business with people who assist me and allowed 318 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: me to be successful. All those points are very important. 319 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: Plus you even more smarter as you you you tell 320 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: us even more because you stay on the air in 321 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia. Yeah, and and I and I appreciate and 322 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And the thing and the thing about 323 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: it is is that and that comes from God. I 324 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: can't do anything about that. That's me and my relationship 325 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: with God. Were trying to be humble and trying my 326 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: best to be because the thing about it is, no 327 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: matter what field you are, you're in, if you're switching 328 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: fields or you're trying to reinvent yourself, the biggest, the 329 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: biggest mistake you can make is I know right, I 330 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: know it already. And this is this generation at times 331 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: is that I know everything before like I don't know anything. 332 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about family entertainment. I thought I 333 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: knew I thought I can recognize the business and and 334 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: and oh, it can be successful here. But I didn't 335 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: know the nuances of it. I didn't know pay Road, 336 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know eduling, I didn't know um Ocean standards 337 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: for employees. I didn't know any of this information. And 338 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: that's the that was the place that I found out 339 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: that it would be more successful if I would if 340 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: I would acknowledge the fact that I didn't know. So 341 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: when I came in to a person that had a business, 342 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: I came in with that approach, Hey, you know what 343 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: my name is? Jason? Or what have you? And uh? 344 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: And and you don't you don't know who I am 345 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: maybe or maybe you know me from the Eagles, But 346 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: can you give me an opportunity to shout at you 347 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: and learn what you know? And that approach got me 348 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: in more doors than me coming in with the brazen 349 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: attitude of arrogance. I love that. I know we had 350 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: a few minutes left, but I got to go back 351 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: to the these these kid birthday parties, these large amounts 352 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: of kids, How do you hand how does your business 353 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: handle that? And when it when it's thirty forty kids 354 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: they're coming in, how did it? Because you know it 355 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: has to be a degree of security to make sure 356 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: that it doesn't get walk out the front door with 357 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: some crazy person and make sure that the kids stays 358 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: in the How does that whole set up work for 359 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: you at your facility? Well, yeah, so we have so 360 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: so thirty or forty We were like, yeah, so we 361 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: we have we have up to so in on our 362 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: p LS system, it's a jump tracker. So on our 363 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: jump tracker, we can have up to two hundred jumpers 364 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: and out. Okay, and on that jump tracker, every time 365 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: someone purchases a ticket, it gets subtractive from that jump tracker. 366 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: So we're able to limit how many people are in 367 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: the building. And we understand because we give them wristbands 368 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: and we give their parents wristbands. They are coinciding with 369 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: their kids to recognize, okay, which kid is with who? Um. 370 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: So that's how that process goes. And also we have 371 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: people at our front door. We have a bunch of 372 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: different measures to try to keep the kids safe. Um. 373 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: But and also to keep them safe on the trampolines, 374 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: because if a kid isn't doing the right things at 375 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: the wrong time, you can get hurt. Because there's so 376 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: many people in your business and you in your in 377 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: your build. So we're trying to shovel them through, UM 378 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: but within reasons. So we have different courts UM set 379 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: up in different court monitors there to watch it and UM. 380 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: But it's all set up in our POS system. It's 381 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: really not that hard to recognize who's in there, who's 382 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: in the building, and we also have security. We also 383 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: have on our staff there as well. Oh man, let 384 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: everybody know how they can reach your place. Find it 385 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: on the website so we can uh. And plus I'm 386 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: gonna get some banners. I do this feature call on 387 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: my social media called Entrepreneur the Week. I want to 388 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: feat you, your business and you and make it a 389 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: click through to your website. Just spread the word. So 390 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: how can we reach you? Yeah, yep, so so we're 391 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: so we're it's it's launched Trampoline Park dot com. It's 392 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: also launched debt for d EPs and Paul T f 393 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: O r D dot com. I might be opening up 394 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: two more stores want to be open UM by the 395 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: end of this month. UM in Dell Ran, New Jersey. 396 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: So that's launched Dell Rand dot com d E L 397 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: R A N. But if you put in launch Trampoline Park, 398 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: you're going to see um, you know, pictures of of 399 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: of myself for in our business. UM. But yeah, and 400 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: you also can look at me at um Jay underscore 401 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: UM of eighty one on on social media, Twitter and Instagram, 402 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: And I mean you can see all of the things 403 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: that we're doing in the community. UM here in the 404 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: local Philadelphia area. We do a bunch of things for 405 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: for kids in the community as well. So UM, it's 406 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: a fun time. It's a fun time to be in 407 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia area, fun time to own the business, and 408 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: fun time to be a good person. Thank you, Jason. 409 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: We're stay in touch. Okay, You're the best. 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