WEBVTT - Put it on my Tab: The Crown Casino Heist

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Saren Ware, you go, what do you know what's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>It is the time for the show. Yes I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I was dreaming about it and I wanted to tell you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>one of my interests is undergarments. Oh okay, dude, either

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<v Speaker 4>the closest thing to you of your clothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And I learned something new today about undergarments. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not like reading about it all the time, but like,

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<v Speaker 4>I try to keep a little facts and then I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's interesting. Whale bones used to be used in bras.

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<v Speaker 4>That's interesting, right, That's just interesting. Another bra fact while

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<v Speaker 4>we're on the topic, turns out that, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>the clasp for the bra that hook designs like twelve

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<v Speaker 4>year old boys have to practice with one hand on

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<v Speaker 4>a Teddy bear to undo? Is that just me?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, that clasp it was invented by who?

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<v Speaker 2>Who?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 6>Who was invented by Elizabeth I give you.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I give you a better guests. It was invented

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<v Speaker 4>at the start or the end of the nineteenthentury early

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<v Speaker 4>twentieth century. That period, I think who would be inventing stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Then child al capine.

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<v Speaker 4>You know this person's name, Mark Twain.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Twain.

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<v Speaker 4>Twain invented the modern clasp for the bra. We still

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<v Speaker 4>using the clasp on the bra you're wearing now was

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<v Speaker 4>invented by Mark Twain. Yes, wild right and ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, thank you. Wow, that is ridiculous. So you're interested.

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<v Speaker 2>I like how you said it was undergarments, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>really bras No.

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<v Speaker 4>No, like socks, all the whole thing, long underwear. I

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<v Speaker 4>got opinions about all of it. You know this, I guess, dude. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the t tank tops. I mean, you name an undergarment

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<v Speaker 4>I got.

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<v Speaker 2>Opinion to, well, that is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>The lining of a like a sweatsuit. I'll give it

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<v Speaker 4>my wetsuit lining. I got opinions about anything that touches.

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<v Speaker 2>My skin touches you.

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<v Speaker 4>We can't just be throwing anything on this. It is

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<v Speaker 4>that's true. It is the integument.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we just recently found the second biggest organ recently,

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<v Speaker 4>like in the last ten years, we have another organ

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<v Speaker 4>that's all through our body.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like the juice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there you go, the juice.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what else is ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm out. That's it for.

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<v Speaker 2>You, booze that costs more than a used Ford Taurus.

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<v Speaker 2>What this is ridiculous crime A podcast about absurd and

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<v Speaker 2>outrageous capers, heists and cons. It's always ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 2>murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn right. Australia, Yeah, down Under.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't stop telling stories about that fabulous land. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know that gambling is legal in Australia?

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<v Speaker 6>I did not, but you know, I'm not surprised Australians

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<v Speaker 6>spend more money on online gambling than any other country

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<v Speaker 6>on planet Earth.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, yeah, why are they not known for this? Almost

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<v Speaker 4>three you never hear about gambling as part of Aussie culture.

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<v Speaker 2>It is clearly almost three quarters of Australian adults hit

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<v Speaker 2>the tables and machines within like the last twelve months.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 7>And then more than the tables or machines within a year.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they're going to a place to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And then more than a third of Aussi's gambled at

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<v Speaker 2>least once a week. Wow, Yeah, I had, there's stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently they're not good. No one else knows about this,

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<v Speaker 4>not all, Like, hey, you should ask an Ozzie about that.

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<v Speaker 2>All this work on, like trying to counter acts like

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<v Speaker 2>gambling addictions, that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>There's got to be like corrosive.

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<v Speaker 2>So there are some really nice like hotel casinos.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a lot of money in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone is gamming.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah it is. Yeah. So I mean think like

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<v Speaker 2>there are Vegas style casinos these places.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, I'm imagining like the hard rock casino, Like

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<v Speaker 4>the Seminoles are like.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight hundred hard rock casinos. It's only that's the only

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<v Speaker 2>kind that's allowed.

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<v Speaker 4>They do they group them together like in Vegas Atlantic

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<v Speaker 4>City kind of, or they're just sprinkled.

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<v Speaker 2>Around, sprinkled around? Is my understanding? Correct me if I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Obvious one in Melbourne is the Crown

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<v Speaker 2>Casino and it opened in nineteen ninety four right on

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<v Speaker 2>the banks of this river. The whole place there's a

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<v Speaker 2>casino and like three hotel towers and I think like

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<v Speaker 2>a mall. It takes up more than one point five

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<v Speaker 2>million square feet.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot. It's like two city blocks.

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<v Speaker 4>That's big.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the largest casino complex in the Southern Hemisphere.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's also one of the largest in the world. Okay, huge.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know that Keanu Reeves has stayed at the Crown?

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<v Speaker 4>I did? He invited me. I was like, Kean, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who else has stayed there? Your boyfriend Tom Cruise?

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<v Speaker 4>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, dude, Why.

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<v Speaker 4>Are these guys not? Like they always tell me that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to be there. I never believe them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like the place to stay when you're there.

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<v Speaker 4>Into motorcycles and gambling.

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<v Speaker 2>Tennis stars Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer, they stayed there during

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian Open.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah they never called me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah they didn't. It's the real deal. It's five stars,

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<v Speaker 2>super luck is what you're talking It's fancy pants.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is like Monico. Yeah, that's all five.

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<v Speaker 2>Fingers, all four of my fingers. Even so, it has

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<v Speaker 2>had its share of controversy. No, so, Chinese regulations wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>let Chinese citizens transfer more than like a set amount

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<v Speaker 2>of money every year. So in that case, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand US dollars or sixty nine point five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>Australian dollars, is that.

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<v Speaker 4>Transfer out of the country. It transferred to Australia, out

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<v Speaker 4>of their country.

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<v Speaker 2>And into another jurisdic So Section sixty eight of the

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<v Speaker 2>Australian Casino Control Act makes it illegal to provide money

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<v Speaker 2>or gaming chips in a transaction using a credit card

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<v Speaker 2>or debit card, and that's intended to reduce money laundering

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<v Speaker 2>promote responsible gambling.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to have the cash.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like buying lotto tickets here,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's hard. You don't want to have people draining their.

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<v Speaker 2>Account or put it all on credit.

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<v Speaker 4>To do at least one more step. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Section one twenty four of the Casino Control

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<v Speaker 2>Act requires casinos to retain specific accounting records regarding like

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<v Speaker 2>how they handle their money so that the proper taxes

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<v Speaker 2>are all done. Oh yes, Like basically, you can't charge

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<v Speaker 2>something as one thing when it's another. So all three

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<v Speaker 2>of those elements came together. The Crown Casino broke all

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<v Speaker 2>those rules. So they were letting Chinese gamblers use something

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<v Speaker 2>called a China Union Pay Bank card or Cup cup

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<v Speaker 2>for gambling purposes, and they weren't using these directly for chips.

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<v Speaker 2>They would get phony invoices for hotel services.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a credit line kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Money would know it would make it look like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you paid for six Hamburgers.

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<v Speaker 4>Through the hotel, so they're just like going, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you got twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the Chinese gambler would pay the fake bill

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<v Speaker 2>using their I.

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<v Speaker 4>Got you and then they would be given the money

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<v Speaker 4>for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then the staff gives them a voucher they

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<v Speaker 2>can trade it in for casino chips. The head of

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<v Speaker 2>Australian Gaming Commission, fran Thorne said quote Crown's cup procedure

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<v Speaker 2>was a covert, purposeful scheme that violated the Casino Control

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<v Speaker 2>Act and was also designed to help customers circumvent China's

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<v Speaker 2>foreign currency conversion regulation.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, they're trying to circumvented, at least to government exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So she also pointed out that Crown knew this was shady.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah they call.

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<v Speaker 2>They still kept it.

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<v Speaker 4>They came up away to get around it.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't need no stinking regulations and they tried to

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<v Speaker 2>cover it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So in all, they processed about one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>four million Australian dollars in these payments and they made

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<v Speaker 2>like thirty two million off of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so they got busted and they were fined

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<v Speaker 2>eighty million Australian dollars for this scheme. Oh wow, And

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't their only tangle with the Gaming Commission.

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<v Speaker 4>Did actual people who are involved actually go to jail

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<v Speaker 4>or have to pay fine?

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<v Speaker 2>They just paid fines and that wasn't even their biggest fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh damn eighty million. So in twenty twenty two they

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<v Speaker 2>got pinched, and this time for a bunch of violations.

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<v Speaker 2>And it seems that like for more than ten years,

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<v Speaker 2>they were letting patrons gamble for more than twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>hours at a time without a break.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you track that though?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but there's apparently this law you cannot

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<v Speaker 2>cannot let someone.

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<v Speaker 4>Get you need to go sleep, like you need.

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<v Speaker 2>To go get some water. Think about what you've done.

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<v Speaker 2>They also were letting gamblers use these plastic picks to

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<v Speaker 2>hold down machine buttons. It's like, you know how you

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<v Speaker 2>see people at like video poker, which the Ausies call

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<v Speaker 2>pokey machines, or like slot machines where there to hit

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<v Speaker 2>them all quick.

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<v Speaker 4>I've gone to yeah casinas with my family members.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that and the picks. They let people play multiple

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<v Speaker 2>machines at a time as well. Yeah, so in twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>the Crown was told, hey, listen, you got to stop

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<v Speaker 2>giving people button picks. This is their you have to

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<v Speaker 2>take steps to make sure that people stop using them.

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<v Speaker 2>And there the crowd's like, hmm okay, no they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Franz Thorne, right, she steps up, she said quote.

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<v Speaker 2>For a long time, Crown had promoted itself as having

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<v Speaker 2>the world's best approach to problem gambling. Nothing could be

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<v Speaker 2>further from the truth. Like what casinos like, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of problem gambling. No, they're of course,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, come hide under my coat. You're refined. Get

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<v Speaker 2>in here. So for those two violations, the extended play

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<v Speaker 2>periods and the pick action, they got two fines. They

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<v Speaker 2>got twenty million for the picks, yeah, and one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million for the all day play. Wow, that was the

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<v Speaker 2>maximum penalt million.

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<v Speaker 4>They got two million in fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Tundred million in fines, and the casino they released this

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<v Speaker 2>statement quote, we are genuinely remorseful for the failings of

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<v Speaker 2>the past, and we're committed to becoming a world leader

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<v Speaker 2>in the delivery of safe and responsible gaming and entertainment.

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<v Speaker 2>The recently appointed new leadership team at Crown is driving

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<v Speaker 2>a whole of company transformation program designed to uplift the

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<v Speaker 2>culture and build a better crown which exceeds the expectation

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<v Speaker 2>of our shareholders.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the valley girl who works in the Australian

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<v Speaker 4>gaming industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. They are in cities, They're everywhere. They're so hard

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<v Speaker 2>to get away from. You know, they get these communications,

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<v Speaker 2>this degree, they go wing top consulting. Next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're running crowds. See they're like I graduated from Irvine

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<v Speaker 2>and here I am okay. So you know that if

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<v Speaker 2>they were hit with these kind of fines and they

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<v Speaker 2>just kept rolling that they're taking in a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>money in every amount. Yeah, casinos are basically money printing operations.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's no way to lose money when you own

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<v Speaker 2>a casino.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, some people have found a way, Elizabeth. There's like

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<v Speaker 4>this one guy he found in Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 2>City, some guys. Yeah, so they had a crazy stick

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<v Speaker 2>up there was on August twenty it did a crowned.

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<v Speaker 4>So people are like, oh, man, I gotta rob that.

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<v Speaker 2>They have so much money, let's do this. August twentieth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two. Recently, recently, Thomas Mangoes who made me

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<v Speaker 2>think of that commercial that runs during football. I Am yours.

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<v Speaker 4>Mango Bring Back.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a pretty serious gambling addiction and he'd been

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<v Speaker 2>gambling at the Crown Casino for like sixteen hours. I

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<v Speaker 2>have gambling mango problems. Yeah, so he sixteen hour run,

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<v Speaker 2>that's insane. Yeah, And at around five am he walks

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<v Speaker 2>up to the cashier in the Mahogany room and he

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<v Speaker 2>pulled out a gun and don't worry, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>toy gun, but the cashier didn't cashier didn't know it.

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<v Speaker 2>And he says, give us your hundreds. He tells her,

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<v Speaker 2>and the cashier she starts handing over them honeys while mangoes.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like shoving the bundles into his jacket, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>like calm, He's calmly doing this, calm the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>What if he was wearing one of those like photographer's vests.

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<v Speaker 2>The tourists were all, but he wasn't doing like the

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<v Speaker 2>frandic hand it over. In all, he gets one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty six thousand dollars in hundreds.

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<v Speaker 4>Out of one hundred, had big pocket from a table.

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<v Speaker 2>He had from a cashier. Oh right, Yeah, so he

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<v Speaker 2>walks out of the casino, hails a cab and takes

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<v Speaker 2>him too.

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<v Speaker 4>For he walks out after doing this, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, walks out, grabs a cab. He goes to Footscray,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a suburb of Melbourne. You say, so he

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<v Speaker 2>tips the driver seven hundred dollars, which is like really

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<v Speaker 2>nice of him, but that's not the best way to

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<v Speaker 2>avoid attention.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>And so from there he goes to Geelong. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is a city on the other end of corey O Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a big city in its own right, not

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<v Speaker 2>really a suburb of Melbourne. So in Geelong he checked

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<v Speaker 2>into a hotel under a false NAMEID. Then he shaved

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<v Speaker 2>off his mustache. I forgot to tell you as mustache.

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<v Speaker 2>He cut his hair. I forgot to tell you it

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<v Speaker 2>had hair, hair and anyone out and he got tattoos.

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<v Speaker 4>So you also forgot to tell me he had no tattoos.

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<v Speaker 2>This is exactly why why am how I got all

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<v Speaker 2>my tattoos? Job cover up?

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<v Speaker 4>Seriously, his idea is that he's going to have these tattoos,

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<v Speaker 4>and like, clearly I can't be that guy because I've

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<v Speaker 4>got all this press police.

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<v Speaker 2>He's really fresh covered up in the plastic.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't touch that, it's healing.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets all this done, he's a new man.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes to sky City Casino in Adelaide, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>and he checked in under a fake name, spent two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks there, and in that time he turned over more

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<v Speaker 2>than a million dollars, but he lost almost one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and one thousand, so he only has like, wait, out

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<v Speaker 2>of his one hundred and thirty six thousand, he loses

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand, nine hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>Dollars, and in the meantime he builds up to a

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<v Speaker 4>million and gets back down exactly. So he makes he's

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<v Speaker 4>got like twenty grand something. He's like exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So, ye, he's left like thirty six thousand dollars September

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventh. And remember he pulled this job on August twentieth.

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<v Speaker 2>He turned himself into police.

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<v Speaker 4>He just had to get this jag out.

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<v Speaker 2>His defense was that he had PTSD after a video

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<v Speaker 2>shop that he owned since nineteen ninety burned down after

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<v Speaker 2>an armed robbery in nineteen ninety three.

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<v Speaker 7>So two decades later, yeah, he's likely also, he's like,

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<v Speaker 7>and then seven years after that, my marriage fell apart

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<v Speaker 7>and I got divorced in two thousand and that was

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<v Speaker 7>just all too much for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So twenty two years later, I'm going to pull this

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<v Speaker 2>weird oh hic.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to like act it out, get it out

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<v Speaker 4>of my system. I'm going to wash that pt sest

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<v Speaker 4>out of my hair.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, your ghost, You demonstrated remorse. You show

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<v Speaker 2>some shame, and we love shame.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, we do love the shame.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he ordered him to serve non parole period

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<v Speaker 2>of three years, basically probation.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's just out, just out, just be a cautionary

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<v Speaker 4>tale telling people about.

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<v Speaker 2>There said quote, all of this behavior endorses the fantasy

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<v Speaker 2>world and surreal nature of the entire event.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't even understand what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>There were bigger let's criminal elements at this casino though,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. So in twenty twenty one, so this is

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<v Speaker 2>before the stick up, the Finkelstein Report was released, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a six hundred and fifty two page document on

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<v Speaker 2>an inquiry into whether the Crown Casino should be able

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<v Speaker 2>to keep its gambling license six hundred pages, six hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty two pages.

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<v Speaker 4>And then can you imagine the movie Martin Scorsese can

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<v Speaker 4>make out of that six hundred page report.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love this. It's like an upside down casino. So

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<v Speaker 2>it just ripped into the Crown for all sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>illegal activities. There's a list in the document. I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you some choice. Once they facilitated millions of dollars of

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<v Speaker 2>money laundering. They allowed operators with links to organize crime

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<v Speaker 2>to arrange for junket players to gamble at the casino.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the quotes, for many years Crown Melbourne has

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<v Speaker 2>engaged in conduct that is, in a word, disgraceful. They

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<v Speaker 2>called it illegal, dishonest, unethical, exploitative. They said they have

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<v Speaker 2>the catalog of wrongdoing is alarming, but more so because

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<v Speaker 2>it was engaged in by a regulated entity totally.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you've gone past litany into catalog, this thing

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<v Speaker 4>just goes hard.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they bring up the whole China stuff. And

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<v Speaker 2>so the report recommended that they be put under a

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<v Speaker 2>special manager for two years and that would let them

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<v Speaker 2>keep their license to operate, but they'd have to make

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<v Speaker 2>major changes, and they did. They got an all new

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<v Speaker 2>board and senior staff, and then they brought in a

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<v Speaker 2>different inspector to monitor whether the money laundering the loan

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<v Speaker 2>sharking and the drug deals were still going on.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll do whatever as long as printing machine running.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like they're in full operation right now. Click

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<v Speaker 2>and they might be riding the ship. But they're still

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<v Speaker 2>underwatched from the government, but you wouldn't know it from

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<v Speaker 2>their website. It's business as usual. So let's hold up,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute for some ads, and do go there

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<v Speaker 2>because I am with it. When we come back, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>explain how the forementioned activities are not the most ridiculous

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<v Speaker 2>crimes up in there.

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<v Speaker 9>Nice all right, Zaron, good eye, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I'm getting in the mood.

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<v Speaker 2>Crown Casino. Crown Casino, So a lot of hanky shesh

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<v Speaker 2>has gone down there, and maybe they've been able to

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<v Speaker 2>smooth things out.

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm saying is, let's give them the benefit of

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<v Speaker 4>the doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Suomie, Crowned Casino, That's what I'm saying. Here's a quick question.

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<v Speaker 2>Apropos of nothing, Yes, I love those. How much do

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<v Speaker 2>you think the world's most expensive cocktail is?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, what how much is the world's most expensive

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<v Speaker 4>cocktail tail? This is like one of the things like whoa,

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<v Speaker 4>we put real gold in there whatever. Oh, it's not

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<v Speaker 4>about the actual research that okay. So I'm imagining how

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<v Speaker 4>much would it cost to make a really fine drink

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<v Speaker 4>five for I don't know, a few grand.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve thousand, five hundred Australian dollars. And that's back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen. You were close.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I was more than seven at all. That's like

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<v Speaker 4>three times is what I was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>More than seventeen thousand dollars American today in the Year

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<v Speaker 2>of Our Lord twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>I like how generous you were, Like, you were close, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 4>If the speed limit was twenty five or.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have said forty dollars, I would have been like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're close.

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<v Speaker 4>H You're really close. I was like, imagine if someone's

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<v Speaker 4>going seventy five and a twenty five mile an hour

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<v Speaker 4>like zone, that's how far away I was. It's three

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<v Speaker 4>times more anyway, I mean says this is like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the most expensive cocktail. It's in the Guinness

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<v Speaker 2>Book of World Records.

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<v Speaker 4>Why is it so expensive?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you it was made on February seventh, twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 4>It's made is not constantly being made.

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<v Speaker 2>By a man named Joel Heffernan.

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<v Speaker 4>This is like the biggest cocktail ever made?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>It is the Giants swimple?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the whole town in Milwaukee help make this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, how do you know Joel worked as a bartender

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<v Speaker 2>slash mixologist?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I love that term.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what do you do?

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<v Speaker 4>And you're liked?

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<v Speaker 2>You just hit me in the face. It's at a

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<v Speaker 2>place called Club twenty three. And as you've probably guessed,

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<v Speaker 2>the Club twenty three was located inside the Crown Casino.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, there we go. So is that for Jordan because

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<v Speaker 4>he's a big gamblers Club twenty three Michael Jordan. But

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<v Speaker 4>all that is gambling, it's not about sports at all. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>they're like his pictures of him and other casinos and

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<v Speaker 4>then him.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaving the NBA.

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<v Speaker 5>Why so.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh it's still this is still listed as the world's

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<v Speaker 2>most expensive cocktail ever sold. Okay, And in this world

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<v Speaker 2>of TikTok excess for drink videos, no one has tried

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<v Speaker 2>to unseat it.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, even all those glow Gold schlogger people.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently. So the pre the Vius world record for a

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<v Speaker 2>single cocktail was held by Salvator's legacy. Okay, and that

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<v Speaker 2>drink was developed by famous. I guess to like booze

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<v Speaker 2>aficionados and hospitality folks. This famous guy, Salvatore Calibres.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, Salvatory Calibreci, Elizabeth, you tell me you don't know

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<v Speaker 4>sal Calibre.

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<v Speaker 2>He made it. He made Salvatores legacy.

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<v Speaker 8>Can you say that?

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<v Speaker 2>I love saying it with Claude des Griffier view Coniac

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<v Speaker 2>from seventeen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I know what that is?

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<v Speaker 2>That drink Conaksting sold for fifty five hundred pounds in

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<v Speaker 2>October twenty twelve at the Playboy Club in London. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>funny story about that cocktail when Salvatory tried to make

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<v Speaker 2>it for the world record in July of that year,

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<v Speaker 2>like things went south. Oh that bottle of seventeen seventy

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<v Speaker 2>eight cognac, which was worth about like fifty thousand pounds

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. Are you yeah, got dropped the bottle?

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<v Speaker 2>Days someone dropped the bottle and he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>like open it to poor to make the cocktail, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's wetting to stop the is what Salvatory said. Quote

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<v Speaker 2>when something gets smashed into a bar, it's normally cleaned

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<v Speaker 2>up straight away, but in this case, everyone just stood

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the puddle for ten minutes. Should we try

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<v Speaker 2>to sponge it up and filter the liquid? We mopped

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<v Speaker 2>it up in the end. Funnily enough, the bartender who

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<v Speaker 2>cleaned it away was stopped by police on his way

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<v Speaker 2>home and asked if he'd been drinking just freaked so salvatory.

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<v Speaker 4>He put on, you didn't have any like real alcoholics, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I got a tow, Let me get on a straw.

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<v Speaker 4>Would like the put like.

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<v Speaker 2>A cigarette filter at the end of the straw in a.

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<v Speaker 4>Little red cocktail straws like they're sipping on like a

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<v Speaker 4>Roy Rogers.

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<v Speaker 2>So Salvatory. He like takes the shards of the bottle

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<v Speaker 2>and he puts it in this glass cabinet that also

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<v Speaker 2>holds like more than a million dollars worth of vintage kgnacs.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, are kidding?

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<v Speaker 4>That's like putting the four hundred and fifty million dollars

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<v Speaker 4>in Leonardo da Vinci painting on a yacht, Like why

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<v Speaker 4>would you put all that there? I mean, you're just

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<v Speaker 4>asking gravity do it. Gravity.

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<v Speaker 2>When he actually made the drink, he got his hands

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<v Speaker 2>on another bottle of this stuff, and so then he

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<v Speaker 2>made he makes the tipple with the Kognak, a seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy bottle of Kumel liqueur, an eighteen sixty dub orange currosow,

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<v Speaker 2>and a tiny bottle of nineteenth century anguester of bitters. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so back to the Crown. Yeah, February of twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>the Crown sends out this press release. It crowed about

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<v Speaker 2>how like this New Zealand millionaire has agreed to pay,

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:37.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, twelve and a half thousand dollars for the Winston.

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.879
<v Speaker 2>The Winston, that's what the cocktail was called, the prescos Nuts.

0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:44.640
<v Speaker 2>There's all these like breathless articles about this obscenely decadent

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 2>and ostentatious drink, and they're all it's all over the

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.880
<v Speaker 2>media in Australia and then like food and drink publications

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.680
<v Speaker 2>around the world. Sure, so what's in the Winstone?

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<v Speaker 4>What is in the Winston?

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Elizabe, I'll tell you. It's made with eighteen fifty eight

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 2>vintage kroy Say couve leone Cognac.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, when you're saying all this stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>I got some of the words. I know something I don't,

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<v Speaker 4>But the eighteen fifty that is the year, and not

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<v Speaker 4>like some name for.

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 2>That's the year that's from. And I gotta say, I'm

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 2>saying these words. I don't know them. Yeah they mean nothing,

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 2>sounds like you. No, they don't.

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 4>No much more than in there. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>hear me, try it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So this is this, this eighteen fifty eight, that's

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the same cognac that Winston Churchill and Twight D. Eisenhower

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:33.719
<v Speaker 2>sipped when planning the D Day landings. I imagine them

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 2>like drinking black coffee as they ponder the fate of

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Europe in the free world. The hands imagine brave Allied soldiers. No,

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 2>they're sipping on yak and just like looking at each

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<v Speaker 2>other all the crazy their.

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 4>World leaders debating something that may be the end of

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 4>the world. You're gonna have coffee stuff you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Find or steal. The fun fact about that batch of

0:24:56.600 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 2>conyak is also the cognac that was stocked on the Titan.

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So, like, are you thinking about crossing the Atlantic?

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 4>I've got the Kodiac for you.

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.160
<v Speaker 2>So you've got that quisette cognac dating back to eighteen

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 2>fifty eight, it's already a world record holder because a

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 2>bottle was valued at one hundred and fifty seven thousand dollars.

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 2>That is nuts And they're like, there too, two nips

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 2>of that are in this drink and that's normally it's

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 2>normally six thousand a shot. Yeah, there's.

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 4>I've owned less than that. Shop.

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Then there's gramoy A quintessence. Total Wine and More describes,

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 2>as the quote, a premier blend of extremely rare cognacs,

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.919
<v Speaker 2>some over one hundred years old, sourced exclusively from Grand

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 2>to Champagne, the most prestigious growing region of cognac. Double

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 2>distilled wild tropical orange essence and aged in French oak casks,

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:58.439
<v Speaker 2>limited annual release.

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<v Speaker 4>Very nice. What did BEVMO have to They wouldn't comment

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:05.439
<v Speaker 4>the orange cat. I've never heard of orange cast. That's nice, yeah, but.

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Like that's Gremoier is orange?

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, of course the flavor. I just hadn't thought

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 4>about orange cast. I was like, oh, that's great, and

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 4>so no oak casts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you say they're orange, tropical orange essence, French

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 2>oak cast.

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 4>About that orange, I imagine the essence inside of the cast. Yeah,

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 4>we've oiled the cast.

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Probably did. Don't trust me.

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 4>My imagination is probably wrong.

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Diaper, Total Wine and More will sell you a bottle

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 2>right now, cash on the barrel head for nine ninety

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 2>nine dollars ninety nine cents. No, no thank you, no

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 2>thank you. Next up Shartruse VP. They don't sell that

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 2>at Total Wine and More. In fact, I had I

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:49.239
<v Speaker 2>had trouble finding an English language website that would talk

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 2>about it. I did find one, though, and it reads quote,

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 2>this specially matured version of green Shartruse is aged for

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 2>at least eight years in oak vats, the initials VP

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<v Speaker 2>stand for and I'm about to mess this one up

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 2>vielles mont, except in Almont meaning exceptionally long aged. The

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<v Speaker 2>individually numbered wax sealed bottles used are identical to those

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<v Speaker 2>used in eighteen forty. Appearance clear pale, lime green with

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<v Speaker 2>flecks of golden yellow aroma, herbaceous pine forest, with nasal cleaning, angelica, spearmint,

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 2>aniseed and tobacco nasal cleaning. Taste slightly syrupy sweet, but

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 2>with such earthy spirit pungent flavors that the sugar has

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 2>a welcome taming effect.

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 4>Earth and sweet.

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Cleansing, antiseed, peppermint, spearmint, angelica, lime, peel, tobacco, ginger root,

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:41.719
<v Speaker 2>and turmers.

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 4>It's got everything.

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.879
<v Speaker 2>The aftertaste is called zy pine and peppermint fresh with

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.159
<v Speaker 2>enlivening cracked black pepper.

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 4>If you ever wanted to drink just.

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 2>To eat the forest floor. Yeah, and then while a

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 2>fairy peas on there, it is down' have like a

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 2>dash of anguster of bitters in there because apparently you

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 2>can't do it. And then that comes from you know,

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Trinidada drink. Yeah, and then but I'm sure that that

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 2>those particular ones are like super fancy under the light

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 2>of the harvest moon, like a bed of hibiscus flowers

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 2>or something. And to top it all off, the drink

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 2>has a pop rocks rim and a slink gym swizzle stick.

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<v Speaker 4>What they turned it into a kid's that's.

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 2>For my imaginary pina colade of.

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 4>Bread bowls, Like are you kidding this?

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 2>This drink has a presentation of chocolate, nutmeg dust, essence

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 2>of poppy seed, yeah, tele rim now, essence of poppy

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 2>seed and roses, hints of coconut, passion flower and oranges.

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 2>So the hints are just like it winks at it.

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we put we put the passion fruit on the

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 4>same count.

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Comes in a cut crystal glass with a diamond encrusted stirstick,

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and it takes the bartender two days to make the

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 2>twelve five hundred dollars drink.

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<v Speaker 4>So I gotta ordered on Thursday for the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a crazy soufle. I have no idea what

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>he's doing that whole time, but I think he needs

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 2>help with time management.

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, like I thought there was like you've seen

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 4>some of those Japanese bartenders where they have like they

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 4>make the drink with the cube and on fire and

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 4>all this. I'm like, no, I just want to drink

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 4>like this guy's like two days, we've.

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Had an anvil down in the basement.

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 4>He's got to crystal the drink that was really close.

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 2>To my drink that I call Elixir of the Gods.

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 2>It's a drink that is sugar free lemonade and pineapple

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 2>juice on the rocks.

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 4>You keep talking about this is it good?

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>So what does the Winston taste like?

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 4>Money?

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Money?

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 4>Well?

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to think of someone who could walk

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 2>us through it, and then I remembered that our ridiculous

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 2>crime bar keep in the basement saloon. Yeah, he'd be

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 2>the perfect person to tell us all I did. Come

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 2>on in and Rascal Jack, it's good to see you,

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 2>and you brought your parrot that plays the steel drunk.

0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 4>You can't sit there, No, it's fine.

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna us a song.

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, let me tell you that a little drink

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 4>called the Winston.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a little bit doney, it's a little bit short, drenk.

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<v Speaker 8>If you give me more, I might get sick. You

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 8>put a little in a cup. Go ahead and put

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 8>a little more in that cup. I need to get drunk.

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 8>I just spent twelve thousand dollars on a drink. Have

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 8>you ever felt like you've been getting ripped off? My friends?

0:30:55.840 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 8>Just remember there's a guy who's been twelve contail.

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 5>You know what.

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 8>This isn't enough, zaren. I want you to close your eyes.

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 4>And picture it.

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 2>You heard the man, You heard the man clothes. It's

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 2>February seventh, twenty thirteen. You are a bar back at

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:27.479
<v Speaker 2>Club twenty three at the Crown Casino. The place has

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 2>been a buzz for days now in anticipation of the

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 2>creation of the world's most expensive cocktail ever sold. The

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 2>place is packed mostly with reporters, but also with high

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 2>rollers and onlookers. Wanting to witness a gross display of excess.

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>People chat and laugh as swanky, down tempo early ats

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>ambient music fills the air. It's all very zero seven.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>You make your way from table to table, picking up

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 2>empty glasses and wiping down surfaces. Your neat uniform of

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 2>crisp black dress shirt, black slacks, and shined up black

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 2>dress shoes adequately hides all the booze you spill on

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>yourself or that's spilled on you. Through the evening, this

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 2>place is full of the same people every night, rich

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>middle aged guys and shiny suits and slick back hair,

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 2>drinking expensive scotch their dates, wispy women half their age

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and sparkling slip dresses, sip champagne or martinis if they're

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to look sophisticated, and then other iterations of those folks.

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 2>But there are a lot more people here tonight, a

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>more diverse crowd. Of course, everyone's here to witness a

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 2>world record being set. They want to see barman Joel

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Heffernan make the Winston for New Zealand millionaire James Manning.

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Joel's a good guy, and you know how nervous he

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 2>is about this. He wants everything to go perfectly. This

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 2>will push him into the ranks of the best in

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 2>the biz, like Salvatore Calibraci or Rascal Jack. But the

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 2>event was supposed to start twenty minutes ago, and there's

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 2>no sign of James. Some pr folks walk by you

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>briskly and they run into this vice president of VIP Services.

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 2>He's got a guy with him that looks familiar. Oh

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 2>that's Jang Win. He's a regular at the casino, doesn't

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 2>come into the bars or clubs much. He has a

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 2>suite here that he sometimes lives in. You heard he's

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 2>part owner of the Geelong Football Club. Win is not

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>dressed for the occasion. He's wearing old sandals and a

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>grubby shirt, and he looks like he just woke up.

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 2>The vice president of Vip Services. He escorts when to

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>the bar, putting him right where James Manning was supposed

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 2>to stand. The crowd and the staff mutter to each other,

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>looking around in confusion. The music lowers and Joel begins

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 2>to mix the drink. It's a very dramatic affair. The

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 2>crowd and their glad rags lean in to watch him

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 2>expertly put the wiggles on a cocktail shaker. He pours

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 2>the concoction into a special glass. He dusts it with

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 2>some stuff, sprinkles drops of other stuff from a test

0:33:56.440 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 2>tube and a dropper. First, Joel hands when the bill

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 2>for the drink, Newenn signs it without even looking at it.

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Fall or move, you think. Then Joel slides the cocktail

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>across the rich, polished bar. Newenn looks irritated, like he

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 2>has somewhere else to be. He checks his watch, The

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 2>VIAP manager turns when to face the cameras both press

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 2>and house, and Wind takes a sip of the cocktail.

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Everyone awaits his reaction. You've been wondering if James Manning

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 2>would make a big show of it, raving about the

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 2>complex flavors, or if he'd pose and pretend to be

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 2>in deep thought, savoring the taste and thinking of the

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 2>boys on Omaha Beach. Instead, you watches when puts the

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 2>drink down, adjusts his shirt, and then walks out of

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 2>the bar. The crowd is stunned. You are stunned. What

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 2>just happened? And why wasn't James Manning here? I'm so confused, Jaren,

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to answer that question. I'm going to erase

0:34:54.160 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 2>your confusion as soon as we get back from this break, Zarin.

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm still so confused to Elizabeth, I've been thinking about

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 4>the entire commercial break better.

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 2>He took one sip, so they just served the world's

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>most expensive cocktail to the world's least interested casino cast

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 2>one sip, sets it down, walks away. Why well, what

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>was that about?

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 4>Is this a magic trick?

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 2>James Manning? Why wasn't he there? Who is James James?

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 2>Where are my pants? Who stole my pants?

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 4>Why am I wearing your pants?

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay? So Manning he described himself as a quote substantial gambler.

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 2>He's a whale. Okay, he's a property he was a

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>property developer from New Zealand.

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 4>And he was staying it doesn't it seem like hippos

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 4>instead of whales should be the term for gamblers because

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 4>whales are not known for a reading. But it's hippos.

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 4>We always think it was like hu hippos, right, And

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 4>that's like, oh, you don't want to mess with a hippo.

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 4>You don't want to get in the water with the small.

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Fish in the pond and the whale comes in like

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 2>was it.

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, never made sense to me anyway, Sorry, go on.

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 2>He spends a lot of money there, he stay, he's

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 2>staying at the casino February twenty thirteen. He's spending and

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 2>he's winning lots and lots of money. So the casino

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 2>reaches out to see if he wants to buy the

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.839
<v Speaker 2>world's most expensive cocktail of course, as long as you're here,

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, yeah, why not, So I'm down. And

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 2>so he and his family had been staying there already

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 2>for a couple of weeks. They're in like one of

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the high rollers swite.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:46.280
<v Speaker 4>Sure, they have like their own cabana.

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 2>And when he had his own VIP services person that

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 2>was waid on accommodate his every win for our crew.

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 4>So he liked to be a psychiatrists.

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 2>He liked to play at the card tables. And I

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.799
<v Speaker 2>have to say I couldn't figure out exactly which game

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>like they just talking.

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 4>About or like game poker, Oh yeah, poker.

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 4>So the night like a lot of different games over

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 4>in the Asian game.

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 2>I think they have all sorts of yeah, so just

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 2>card games.

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Poker's let's go with poker.

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 2>So the night before this cocktail event. Manning's at the tables, right,

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 2>He's at the high stakes tables, not the nickel slots,

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 2>and he's on a roll and he's winning hand after hand,

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 2>like and that kind of luck. Can't hold out like.

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 4>Ten thousand hand minimum, that kind of table kind of stuff.

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:40.800
<v Speaker 2>And but this is what makes him a whale. And

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 2>so he's been having terrific luck though for a while

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 2>he's just been raking it in, which is why the

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 2>casino they were really eager to get him in on

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 2>this cocktail stum spread some of the money around, get

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 2>them away from the table off. But that night, so

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 2>this is the night before, they have their eyes on

0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:59.840
<v Speaker 2>chains on the floor as well as through the camera.

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 2>At this point, there are more than two thousand cameras

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:09.399
<v Speaker 2>in this casino. It's a lot of cameras, and they're

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 2>all like really HD like zoom in to all the

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 2>stuff totally. I mean, they have like beta mass. So

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 2>security noticed something. They are in colors erin so the

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 2>cameras they were moving in like a weird way, and

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 2>so they're watching James. They're watching James, but they see

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 2>like on another camera is like zoomed in on the

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 2>cards of the other players at his table. Oh yes,

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 2>And the security officers weren't the ones doing the zooming,

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 2>oh double. They used one of the cameras they did

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 2>control to zoom in on James, and they thought they

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 2>saw an ear piece and he he didn't wear a

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 2>hearing aid that they were aware he got long hair.

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 4>They saw, well, he can't.

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Quite make it out. So they watched him play eight hands,

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 2>and he played him really quickly and they were all winners.

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 2>And so then like he gets up and he retires

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 2>to his luxury suite.

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 4>Did she get that guy from casino with the cattle prod?

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 2>The hammer? And security They keep their eyes on him

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the whole time as he goes back to the sweet

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to work out what was going on because

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.879
<v Speaker 2>they have all these high resolution cameras and it looked

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 2>like someone had hacked the system and was relaying that

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 2>information to James through an ear piece. Okay, and so

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 2>he's using the casino's own system against it.

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 4>And they can't like unzoom their cameras, like they have

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.360
<v Speaker 4>no control over those cameras. Like these people have.

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Hacked in deep, they've hacked indep and here he is,

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 2>he's raging against the machine he's using it against. So

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 2>there's this woman, Linda Hancock. She's a professor. She wrote

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 2>a book about the Crown Casino, so she knows the place.

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 2>She said that his winnings, all this winning, didn't draw

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 2>attention right away because he's this big whale. You know,

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 2>win big, bet big and like Pitt, you know what

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:03.800
<v Speaker 2>you're eventually the house is always going to win. This

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 2>they tell themselves, she told Australian Broadcasting quote. The Crown

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Casino has about six or seven leer jets. It flies

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 2>these VIPs in. So how it all works is that

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>these people have a minder. The person had his family

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 2>with him, so that's not uncommon either. They come in,

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>they look after the family while the high roller gambles. Now,

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I would like to introduce you to someone else.

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 4>Please, I love people.

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 2>A casino consultant named Baron Stringfellow.

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 4>What come on, that's a stringfellow.

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Look, it's so much better. He used to be based

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 2>in Las Vegas, but now it looks like he operates

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 2>out of Hiawatha, Kansas.

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'm fascinated by him. I am his and his

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 2>amazing Barrenstringfellow Dot.

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 4>Com website, I find the most interesting people.

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Here's some bio information from his website, and there's random capitalization.

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 4>Oh, of course.

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Barn performed his first page show at the age of

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 2>thirteen in nineteen seventy three. He is from Las Vegas, Nevada.

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 2>He has been in casino as his profession for a

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:07.800
<v Speaker 2>bit less time than magic. I'm trying to give you

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:11.919
<v Speaker 2>the exclamation prints here. The two careers intertwined nicely into

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 2>one amazing job. His combined works have been seen internationally

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 2>and he may be the quote best kept secret in

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 2>magic cheaters.

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 4>Beware.

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Baron is an international casino scams expert and entertainer. Calls

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:30.320
<v Speaker 2>come in worldwide to solve casino crime and get Baron's

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 2>insight into scams. Twenty years in tribal gaming, fifteen of

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.879
<v Speaker 2>those with our own consulting firm. We don't just train

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 2>casino personnel, regulatory staff, and state federal government in a

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 2>multitude of casino solutions. We enter train what intertrain events

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 2>large and small flourish under Baron's application of sizzle. Yeah,

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 2>so he uses magic to train casino folks in detecting

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 2>fraud and implement tak best practices.

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:02.880
<v Speaker 4>I bet he's got great stories about how Penn and

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 4>Teller are like dicks. Yeah.

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Probably one time he does seminars in Macau. Oh really yeah,

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 2>one of his he's like a big name. One of

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:15.320
<v Speaker 2>his big topics is he says, so this is vicious

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:19.319
<v Speaker 2>activities and casinos, And like I said, he is fascinating

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 2>and I would love to hear all of his stories.

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 4>I would like to take a road trip with him.

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Be amazing. Anyway, So when they ask him about this heist,

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 2>the press, they're like, who do we go to? We

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 2>go to the number one guy, Barren Strings. So they

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 2>talked to him. He said it took fewer resources than

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.320
<v Speaker 2>what you'd imagine for like an Ocean's eleven type.

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:39.879
<v Speaker 4>Thing, ocean thirteen type.

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah quote, intercepting them the surveillance signals is simple as

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 2>going down to a local radio shack. That's what he

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 2>told Australian broadcast.

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 4>He used radio shack. Yeah.

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:52.919
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if there's still a radio shack in Iowas.

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 4>I bet they're internationally too, though, Like you know, I

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 4>hear that they.

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he still exists. I don't know, but I need

0:42:59.080 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>to take one of them.

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to go there again.

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 2>I know. So this is how he described the operation.

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 4>Please quote.

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 2>The player wears an earpiece that's fed information from an

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 2>accomplice sitting somewhere in the casino or outside of it.

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:15.479
<v Speaker 2>This person would have access to the casino's surveillance feed

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 2>and would be watching the action on the table. They

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 2>would then relay the best plays and bets to the

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 2>player and stringfellows and stuff like. This is actually like

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of common and that the casinos know about it. Yeah,

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.279
<v Speaker 2>but they don't report it because it would generate so

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.720
<v Speaker 2>much bad pr and encourage other people.

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 4>Sure, I mean there's a lot of cheaters, and we

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 4>see that this is usually the plan, which, yeah, how

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:39.800
<v Speaker 4>do you get eyes on whoever, either the dealer or

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 4>your other opponents, and then how do you get into

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 4>the person's ear or like with electronic like did he

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 4>do it on their schedule?

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>But the casinos they're like he said, quote, the problem

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 2>with casinos is that they believe they are unbeatable, and

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 2>we see over and over again that they are not unbeatable.

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 2>If casinos would monitor for wireless transmissions, they would be

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 2>able to thwart these plans on set.

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 4>I bet because they have to use them themselves, that

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:03.760
<v Speaker 4>they can't use blocks.

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 2>So the casino have clocks, like why would they not exactly,

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.200
<v Speaker 2>So the casino now knows what's going on. They know

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 2>that Manning's up in his villa in Crown Towers, and

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:18.879
<v Speaker 2>they did the math and they figured out how much

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 2>he'd taken them for. Okay, thirty three million dollars.

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, buddy.

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 2>So they head up there in the middle of the

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 2>night and they gave him the boot what They kicked

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 2>him out. They did not call the cops, They didn't

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 2>beat it. They were like, sir, you need to leave.

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, my children are asleep. I don't care, sir,

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 2>you need to leave.

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 4>Isn't it a wild how? Like you can take the

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:42.240
<v Speaker 4>English culture and you get America, or you can get Canada,

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 4>or you can get Australia. America were like, beat his

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 4>ass Canada, Australia Like, well, sir, you need to get out.

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 4>You can't be stealing, like we.

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Say, like you reach a certain threshold of money and

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 2>consequences are different.

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 4>I think that that guy, if he's not on the

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 4>inside or doesn't have a lot of money, if he's

0:44:59.040 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 4>just taking him for.

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 2>A lo lot of money. He's a whale.

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know though, I think I don't think

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 4>this play goes in America.

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 2>They did do something to him. They hit him with

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 2>a withdrawal of license. Notice, yes, it meant that he

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 2>couldn't come into the entire Crown complex, not even into

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 2>the luxury shops.

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 4>Darren, Wow, he can't do the shopping. He will know,

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 4>And he.

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Said okay, and then he went back with his family,

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 2>presumably to New Zealand.

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 4>No duty free goods for you, that's it.

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, And so that's why he wasn't there to drink

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:36.240
<v Speaker 2>the world's most expensive cocktail ever. So he just taken

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the casino for thirty three million dollars and had been evicted.

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 4>And Wynn knew this. That's why he takes the silly Yeah.

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:45.919
<v Speaker 2>Well, the casino that he's another whale. They just grab

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 2>another whale, only this one doesn't give a tinker's damn

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 2>about a cocktail he just wanted to get. He's not

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 2>even like his buddy, No, no, no, so like the

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 2>casino made a deal with when and he you know,

0:45:56.960 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 2>they said, you you signed for the drink and then

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 2>we'll pay you back later.

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 4>Are you kidding.

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 2>And then the casino it turns out they never charged

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 2>him for it in the first place, so technically no

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 2>one paid for the world record, right, the casino just

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:12.879
<v Speaker 2>ate the cost.

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 3>So was it?

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Is it the most expensive cocktail ever sold? Still holds

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 2>the record when you go to the Guinness website to

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:22.720
<v Speaker 2>this day, it holds the record.

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm calling hijinks.

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too. So anyway, the casino fired the VIP

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 2>services manager that was someone to Manning and his family

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:36.879
<v Speaker 2>because the thoughts were that he was the one. Yeah,

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 2>and so Victoria Police they did confirm that they were

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 2>involved in the investigation, even though they didn't receive a

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:47.320
<v Speaker 2>formal complaint. So there's nothing on file. Everything's on the

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 2>hush hush and.

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:50.399
<v Speaker 4>Away.

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 2>And it looks like Manning and the casino came to

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 2>some sort of deal. Speaking of deals, I'm not saying

0:46:57.560 --> 0:46:58.959
<v Speaker 2>you're wanting this man to be heard?

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 4>How how different the reactions you get to just do

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:02.839
<v Speaker 4>what you want.

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Linda Hancock, she's the one who wrote the book on

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 2>the crowd.

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah huh.

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 2>She thinks that Manning and the VIP manager had a

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 2>deal of their own. Okay, she's a quote. How it

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 2>could happen is that they assigned someone to look after

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 2>all the needs of the premium player. Sometimes they can

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 2>be quite demanding. Sometimes they drink, sometimes they don't. They

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 2>may have a particular food they like. This person was

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 2>accommodated in one of the luxury villas up on the

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 2>very high floor of the Crown Casino. There's the Versace villa.

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 2>These villas are extremely luxurious. They cost thirty thousand dollars

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 2>a night if you want to rent well yourself. Yeah

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and even what yeah night a night. So the whole

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 2>thing is wired. And I guess if there is corruption

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:47.360
<v Speaker 2>in the ranks or collusion between the minder and the player,

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:48.879
<v Speaker 2>they must have struck a deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I need to pick my job out.

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I thirty thousand a night. It's just yeah. So the

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 2>press got a hold of the story in March of

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen, one month after it went down, and the

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 2>casino told the press it was pretty sure they'd be

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:07.879
<v Speaker 2>able to get most of the money back. Stringfellow, our hero,

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 2>he said, that's pretty much impossible. Yes, Like they let

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 2>you walk out. He was like, quote chances or zero

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 2>if they let you walk out of the casino game over, Well, you.

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:20.720
<v Speaker 4>Can still get back illegally, you can send the viper

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:21.879
<v Speaker 4>after May.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Manning denied the charges and I had trouble tracking

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 2>him down after the heist, but I think I found him,

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:31.840
<v Speaker 2>did you. Well, there's a James Manning who's a bitcoin

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 2>baron in Australia.

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 4>Okay sounds.

0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 2>He was the CEO of Masson Infrastructure Group, which is

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 2>like a bitcoin mining operation that was based in Pennsylvania

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 2>and a right and so that he was the CEO

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 2>up until May of twenty twenty three, and he got

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 2>the boot when he failed to disclose related party transactions.

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 2>He founded a hedge fund based in Sydney and in

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two he and his wife, who's like a

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 2>former fashion designer of course, have like four kids. They

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 2>sold their house in Wallahara, a Tony uh the suburbs

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:11.879
<v Speaker 2>for fifteen million dollars house. Then they listed another house

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 2>down the street that they had for eight million because

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 2>two years later.

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 4>Down the street it was like next door because they

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:17.880
<v Speaker 4>didn't want to have neighbors and he was down the.

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Street like they just buy up the neighborhood. So apparently

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 2>bitcoin bosses are buying up a ton of high end

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Australian real estate. There are stories about this, and I

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 2>imagine the same thing is happening all over the world.

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:30.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're a good number of properties in San

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Francisco that sit empty because owners buy them as investments.

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:34.879
<v Speaker 2>That's what everyone says.

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 4>You don't even want to know the numbers, like it's

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 4>you know that it's like I think right now, it's

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:42.719
<v Speaker 4>in America. There are twenty eight unoccupied homes for every

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:45.800
<v Speaker 4>homeless person. Yeah, okay, the numbers are stupid.

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:47.879
<v Speaker 2>And then the city like you'll see in those big

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 2>high rise like luxury apartments, like most of whole floors.

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:53.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, San Francisco's ridiculous.

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's a good front.

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.600
<v Speaker 4>Who just pays attention to that? And he'll point out yeah, yeah,

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:00.360
<v Speaker 4>the you know, the.

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Way that the property values keep increasing everywhere. You know,

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 2>it's a good investment, which is just disgusting. I don't

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 2>like that either. So that may or may not be

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:15.319
<v Speaker 2>the same James Manning. But the details and I mean

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Manning was described as a Kiwi in all the heist reporting,

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 2>and this dude is in Australia, but I can't find

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 2>a bio for Aussie James Manning to see if he's.

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 4>Easy for a keiwave to go from New Zealand Australia.

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and it's it's weird that there's just like

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 2>nothing about him. I did. I did find SEC filings

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 2>that refer to Manning as having property development experience earlier

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 2>in his career, so that lines up anyway. If that

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 2>James Manning isn't the same one as the Crown Casino one,

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.720
<v Speaker 2>I apologize, and please don't sue me. I'm just basically

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:50.400
<v Speaker 2>asking people not to sue me today.

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:54.280
<v Speaker 4>And if you are related to the Manning brothers from football,

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 4>please call me because I'd like to be on the

0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Manning cast.

0:50:57.040 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly. We both have ridiculous takeaway. Oh no, I

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:03.240
<v Speaker 2>got what you ridiculous takeaway?

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 4>Pepe? Ask me Elizabeth. I'm so glad. I've been sitting

0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:07.840
<v Speaker 4>here holding my fingers crossed for like five minutes. I

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:11.360
<v Speaker 4>can tell you this now. I don't I pick on

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:13.440
<v Speaker 4>the bitcoin guys because I think that what they're doing is,

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:16.879
<v Speaker 4>you know, just basically speculating. You're just creating this money

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 4>that we don't need and then selling it to someone

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 4>who's an idiot, and then they make me make money.

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I don't see any value here, right, But

0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 4>at the same time, I spend a lot of time

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 4>looking for Mersin prime. So I'm using a big computer

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 4>to do very similar things and I make nothing out

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:31.239
<v Speaker 4>of it. You know, yeah, I'm gaining nothing. So I'm

0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:32.800
<v Speaker 4>the idiot if you really want to talk about it

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 4>from the economic standpoint. But there's this other guy who

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 4>I was thinking about when you were telling the story.

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 4>When I thought that Manning or rather Win was buying

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 4>the drink and then not enjoying it, and I was

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 4>so hung up on that. There was a guy recently

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 4>who found the next largest Mersen prime, right, which is

0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 4>made you think total. But then the guy spent two

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 4>million dollars using cloud computing to find it.

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 9>Right.

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 4>You know, me, I got my one computer, I plug

0:51:58.239 --> 0:51:59.839
<v Speaker 4>in a couple of numbers and I go look for these.

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:01.719
<v Speaker 4>A month later, I go, oh, not that one, and

0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 4>I do it again. Right, this guy has cloud computing

0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 4>doing it, all these numbers all the time, twenty four hours.

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 4>He spent two million dollars doing this. You would think, man,

0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 4>it paid off, you did it, your planned worked, you

0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:16.319
<v Speaker 4>found the next biggest mercy and prime. And then they're

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 4>like talking to him and he's like, yeah, I did that,

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 4>and he.

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Didn't care excited about it.

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 4>Why did you spend the two million if he doesn't

0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 4>give you any joy.

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing about like bitcoin and that kind of stuff,

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:30.040
<v Speaker 2>is the environmental impact.

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I was trying to side step that make.

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:33.759
<v Speaker 2>The electricity is.

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:38.240
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you've prepared that for a lot of the crypto coins.

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.440
<v Speaker 4>So you can't say that anymore about him other than bitcoin.

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:40.920
<v Speaker 2>AI.

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:43.919
<v Speaker 4>Sure, definitely pretty much. If you're trying to cool something,

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 4>you're taking water or electricity, either you know, for the

0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 4>stand or for the cooling. But shouldn't these things get

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 4>these people joy? If you're gonna be denying my grandchildren

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:55.479
<v Speaker 4>a future on the planet, shouldn't at least get joy

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 4>out of this?

0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Exactly?

0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 4>Well, there, that's my ridiculous tahaway. Would people would at

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 4>least get a moment of joy, as I said, of

0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 4>like a moment of like I got this. He didn't,

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:07.479
<v Speaker 4>because that's not joy.

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 2>That's not joy.

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 4>Joy.

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 2>That's my takeaway that was I was watching this thing

0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:16.160
<v Speaker 2>the other day about what joy is, and then it

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to be like this amazing like fireworks of

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:24.799
<v Speaker 2>things it's just simple pleasantries, like simple things in life

0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 2>that and it's our tasks to stop and like think

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 2>of that joy. And when you think about this this bartenders,

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean the alcohol cost a side of just like

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:37.719
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe they would charge that amount. Like he

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:42.399
<v Speaker 2>spends two days preparing all these things, and a lot

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:45.839
<v Speaker 2>of thought goes into that of layering all these flavors

0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 2>and the experience of it, you know, I like, I

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I make fun of like mixologists, but with

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:58.920
<v Speaker 2>anything like that, any like food or drink, when you

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:01.480
<v Speaker 2>think about the entire your experience of it, that you

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 2>would want to have someone enjoy this cocktail and you know,

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:11.560
<v Speaker 2>experience every sensory element of it, and then to put

0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 2>it in front of a dude who like takes a

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 2>sip and is like all right later, that's got to be.

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Like I checked the box.

0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 2>There, I did it.

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 4>Saw me do it exact guys, Like that was two

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 4>days of my life you to go there, I did it.

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:24.759
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 2>And because it's so expensive, apparently the casino said like

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:31.000
<v Speaker 2>we're going to be making like twelve more of these

0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:33.759
<v Speaker 2>or something. They'll be available for a certain amount of time.

0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:35.360
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if they ever made them or

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 2>anyone cared, but.

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:42.759
<v Speaker 4>Just these like flagrant, gross displays of well and now

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:44.239
<v Speaker 4>when you google.

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:47.799
<v Speaker 2>That bartender's name, this is all that comes upon I know, right,

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:51.480
<v Speaker 2>poor kid. Uh, you know what we need to as

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:54.279
<v Speaker 2>a palate cleanser. What Elizabeth a talk by?

0:54:54.640 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 4>Hell yeah, I went cheat.

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth Zarin close your eyes. Treasure Island being robbed. I

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 3>was in the floor where the cops repelled down. I'm

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 3>watching the TV to see what's going on. Hurt. All

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:23.840
<v Speaker 3>the helicopters saw my husband hit the floor with the

0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:25.440
<v Speaker 3>gunfire on the news.

0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Thought he was shot.

0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:31.239
<v Speaker 3>He was right next to the security guards and I

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:34.359
<v Speaker 3>was five months pregnant and about had that baby that night.

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Great episode. Oh my goodness.

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.320
<v Speaker 4>So glad everything was fine for you and your family.

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Wow, so you're like witness to history. Yeah, I'm so

0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 2>glad everyone wound up. Okay, and the little bibs, Oh

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 2>my god, that's crazy. Thank you for sure. Uh, that's

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