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Visit Allcopyproducts dot com and buy Arizona 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals podcast. 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: Visit Azcardinals dot com. Slash podcast one Handed catching a Touchdown. 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 3: Here's Craig Griolou all Calabs and nine year NFL veteran 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: Rob Frederickson. 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 4: So a week ago, we were talking about a coaching change. 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 4: This week we're talking about a coaching search, and we 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 4: might be talking about this search for a little while. 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 4: I'll flashback a year ago. Paul and the Cardinals waited 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: until after the Super Bowl because Jonathan Gannon was the 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 4: selection and he was participating in the game. So the 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 4: Cardinals may be new, but we didn't know until the 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: last game played in the National Football league. 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 5: Yea, I'm trying to figure out is this a radio 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 5: studio or a wait radio studio or a waiting room? 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 6: Right? 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 5: Are we just sitting around just waiting, sort of looking 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 5: at the clock and you know you're an expecting father. Okay, 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 5: you know when is this going to happen? It could 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 5: happen soon, you have no idea. It could be after 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. I mean there's by our count one two, three, 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 5: a dozen different reported candidates. So if you want a 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 5: timeline and you want to name, then guess what, there's 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 5: a bunch of different candidates that will fit your narrative 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 5: right now. 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: One name I do not see on this list, though, 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: Paul is Rob Frederickson. So my guess is the phone 38 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: did not ring for you. 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 6: That would be tampering. 40 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 7: Ok. 41 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 6: Sorry, we're keeping we're keeping all of this, you know, 42 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 6: under the table here. But now, no Rob Frederickson in 43 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 6: that list. 44 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 5: But what about Carson Palmer, Mike gout, Carson? Is he 45 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 5: on your list? And you were Rob Carson Palmer, you're 46 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 5: mat Preps National High School Coach of the Year. Get 47 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 5: them on the list. 48 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 6: I know it. But you know what if you are 49 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 6: searching for a coach this is the year I think, 50 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 6: you know, you have you have some great candidates here 51 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 6: that are listed that the Cardinals are interested in. You know, 52 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 6: you got you got John Harbaugh as well. Who's who's 53 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 6: also there, maybe Mike Tomlin. We don't know yet. You know, 54 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 6: there's been talk discussions going on. So this is a 55 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 6: year where there are some viable candidates. And and now 56 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 6: look through this list here and I'm seeing one, two, 57 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 6: four candidates that are from the NFC West. So that 58 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 6: to me is also uh something that you know, could 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 6: potentially be a be an added benefit for the Cardinals 60 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 6: because you're not only are you you're getting some great, 61 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 6: great young minds, but you're also doing some damage to 62 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 6: the NFC West. 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 4: Here are the reported names, or some of the reported names. 64 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: Rob just mentioned the NFC West connections, both coordinators for 65 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: the Rams, Chris Shula, Mike Lafleur, Seahawks OC Clint Kubiak, 66 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: and forty nine ers d C. 67 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 5: Robert Solo. 68 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: Those are the four names within the division overall. You 69 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 4: look at these and I'm gonna say it's eleven names. 70 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: Paul the phone call with John Harbaugh, I don't know 71 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: if that qualifies as an official reported candidate. But if 72 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: you want to go a dozen, then there's eight or 73 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: i'll say seven with defensive backgrounds, four with offensive backgrounds. 74 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: And John Harbaugh is the special teams guy. 75 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 5: I don't know about you. I'm including John Harbolle. I mean, 76 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 5: you know, this is like the speed dating face. So 77 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 5: at this point, he's a candidate, you know, until you 78 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 5: get a thumbs down, until you don't get a call back, 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 5: as long as he's still taking your calls. And I 80 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 5: get it. There's the reports that he's talking to a 81 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 5: number of teams. He wants to narrow it down to 82 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 5: like three and then it'll interview from there. But right now, 83 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 5: you know, anybody and everybody is a possibility. If you're 84 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 5: on the list, then okay, and the Cardinals are talking 85 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 5: to you. Who knows, you know, some of these guys 86 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 5: might if you've been in Baltimore for two decades, I 87 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 5: mean maybe some sunshine in the West Coast might be 88 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 5: something you cove it. You have no idea necessarily what 89 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 5: some of these candidates are looking for. 90 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: Be closer to his brother, sure, yeah in Los Angeles. 91 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 5: No doubt, absolutely. So I mean, look, you could also 92 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 5: pare it down to those with head coaching experience and 93 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 5: those who would be first time head coaches. I don't 94 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: know how coveted a qualification that is by the decision makers, 95 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 5: you know, wouldn't hurt. I wouldn't think. You know, there's 96 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 5: definitely a learning curve for any first time head coach. 97 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 5: So if it's a Robert Sala, for example, that comes in, Okay, 98 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 5: he's been there and done that in the toughest media 99 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 5: market and obviously a lot of challenges with the Jets, 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 5: and so you would come in thinking, all right, maybe 101 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 5: the learning curve would be a little less severe because 102 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 5: maybe you made some of those first time mistakes. But 103 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 5: then again, if you get a rock star up and 104 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 5: coming head coach like a Mike McDonald in Seattle, you 105 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 5: know they'll get traction immediately if they know what they're doing. 106 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 4: The other candidates reported candidates with previous head coaching experience Vans, 107 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 4: Joseph for Him, Morris, Matt Naggy, Thomas Brown was the 108 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: Bears interim coach for part of twenty twenty four. Jeff Haffley, 109 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: former college head coach, speaking of college. The latest name 110 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 4: on the list Jesse Mentor, Chargers defensive coordinator I don't 111 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: know how Rob feels about a Michigan man being the 112 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: Cardinals head coach, although it was just an interim for 113 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: one game in twenty twenty three when he was in Michigan, 114 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: but certainly ties to the Harbaugh family. When you talk 115 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: about defensive coordinator Jesse Minter. 116 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 6: Well, if we're going down that road, I'm more of 117 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 6: a forty nine Ers DC Robert Salad guy. He was 118 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 6: a graduate assistant at Michigan State, so he's got ties 119 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 6: to Spartan nations. So uh yeah, dearborn native, you know, 120 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 6: Michigan guy all all the way through. Not not the 121 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 6: ann Arbor Michigan guy. I'm talking about just a Michigander. Okay. 122 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 5: By the way, the video clip the Michigan State put 123 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 5: out of Pat Fitzgerald in his inaugural address to the 124 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 5: team was phenomenal and he just hit zoom out from there. 125 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 5: I mean, you talk about a leader of men, a 126 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: strong leader who has a message, who can get buy 127 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 5: in immediately from the entire room. I mean that was 128 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 5: about ninety seconds of him addressing the team. That was 129 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 5: some gripping stuff. It really was. I mean, you know, 130 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 5: just just I don't win the press conference all these speeches, 131 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 5: I get it, you know, do what does it really 132 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 5: mean when it comes game day? But right out of 133 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 5: the gates you can tell, I mean he knows how 134 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 5: to command a room. 135 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 6: You know that. In my mind, this whole decision comes 136 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 6: down to there's there's different schools of thought in terms 137 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 6: of what you're looking for in a head coach. Are 138 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 6: you looking for a leader of men? Are you looking 139 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 6: for a culture builder, a guy that can come in 140 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 6: and and command the room and and you know is 141 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 6: really more in that vein. Or are you looking for 142 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 6: somebody that can bring in a system, somebody that that 143 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 6: has been learning and tutelage under. Uh. You know some 144 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 6: some great head coaches. You know you look at the 145 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 6: RAMS D C and O C. Michael Fohr and Chris Shula. 146 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 6: Those guys are you know, they've they've they've studied and 147 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 6: they've been in that RAMS system, so that may be appealing. 148 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 6: Or you know a Robert Salah, who's to your point, 149 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 6: Paul's he's been around the block, he's been a head coach, 150 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 6: He's he's taken Uh. You know, all the arrows from 151 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 6: from the media in New York and and and the 152 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 6: toughest media market. He's been there, he's done that. But 153 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 6: he's also a leader of men, and he's also, by 154 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 6: the way, a hell of a coach. I mean, he's 155 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 6: a guy that he's he's playing fifth, sixth string linebackers 156 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 6: and winning football games, meaningful football games in the playoffs 157 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 6: for the forty nine ers. So you really got to decide. 158 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 6: I think as an organization, you know, what type of 159 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 6: leader do you want for that position? 160 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: Well, let's ask the general manager. It was one week 161 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: aldgo yesterday, Monty Austin Ford asked what he would like 162 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: to see or what he wants out of a head coach. 163 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 8: Being a strong leader, It's it's creating accountability and dependability 164 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 8: in the locker room. It's creating advantages on the field, 165 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 8: putting our players in a position to be successful. It's 166 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 8: developing young players. It's, you know, helping them take that 167 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 8: next step. There's a lot that falls on the under 168 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 8: the umbrella of the head coach, and so we're focused 169 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 8: on finding a coach that can help us achieve those. 170 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 4: Goals, whether it's someone with previous coaching experience or an 171 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: up and coming coordinator. The player development aspect was brought 172 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 4: up several different times in that press conference and even 173 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 4: going back to late in the season, Jonathan Gannon brought 174 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: up player development and health as far as two areas 175 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: he wanted to do a deep dive and research as 176 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: far as what potentially went wrong to correct for twenty 177 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: twenty six. But you got a lot of young guys 178 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: in that locker room that maybe, like Michael Wilson, elevated 179 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: their game. Marvin Harrison Junior still trying to figure out 180 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: what he can be as a wide receiver. So the 181 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: player development aspect, Yeah, to your point, Rob, who's got 182 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 4: the system, But also one you're the head coach, who 183 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 4: can you bring in as assistants to help with that 184 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: player development? 185 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 8: Yeah? 186 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 6: And I think it's more than player development. It's player 187 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 6: identification and identifying talent. And you know, as Moni osk 188 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 6: Ford just said, you know, putting players in position to 189 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 6: be successful. You know, I just look back at Michael 190 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 6: Wilson for example. You know he was he was in 191 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 6: route progression purgatory for most of his career here until 192 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 6: you know, a situation kind of happened and he was 193 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 6: thrust into the wide receiver one position and all of 194 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 6: a sudden we got a guy here that I mean, 195 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 6: he's putting up all pro numbers, and but he was 196 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 6: he was kind of an afterthought. And and so you know, 197 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 6: identifying the players and this and the and the players 198 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 6: that can help you win football games and also you know, 199 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 6: develop them, developing them along the way. 200 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 5: Michael Wilson is pookin Nakua? 201 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 7: Light? 202 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 5: Am I wrong on that? 203 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 7: No? 204 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 5: Are you gonna at me? 205 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 9: Oh? 206 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 6: You're right? 207 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 5: I mean you really to me that when I watch him, 208 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: I see pookin Nakua. I really do. And unless you 209 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 5: watched every snap like we have, like Cardinals fans have, 210 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 5: you probably just shake your head right and take my 211 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 5: car keys. But that's how good he was the second 212 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 5: half of the season. As for the whole system thing, 213 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 5: you know, Craig, Okay, you know every coordinator defensive or 214 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 5: offensive might have their preferred system, if you will, But 215 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 5: look at the best in the game, what do they 216 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 5: do They adapt to the personnel, They adapt within a game. 217 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 5: I'll go back to the first matchup against the Rams. 218 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 5: Cardinals came out in dime. What did Sean mcvayh do 219 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 5: after a couple early series where Matthew Stafford was one 220 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 5: of four passing. They okay, all right, and they came 221 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 5: out in thirteen personnel, three tight ends, forty snaps and 222 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 5: then they went thirty two plays in a row without 223 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 5: even reaching third down. So it's that coach who has 224 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 5: the ability to scheme it up week to week, maybe 225 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 5: even half to half within a game, and you know, 226 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 5: guys go down. And to Rob's point, Robert Sawa, Okay, look, 227 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 5: we don't have Fred Warner anymore, we don't have Nick 228 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 5: Moose anymore. This has got to change. It's got to 229 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 5: look different because we have different players. 230 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: Boom. 231 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 5: They have the ability to adjust. 232 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: The whole adage. Okay, are you a three to four 233 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 4: defense or a four to three or what does it 234 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 4: look like in that front seven. To Paul's point, it's okay, 235 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 4: who are our best eleven and then we'll figure out 236 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 4: what you do well put you in a position to 237 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: make the play. 238 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. Because all these coaches, they they've you know, presumably 239 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 6: on this list, they they've seen everything. They can coach 240 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 6: coach up a three to four defense, they can coach 241 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 6: up a four to three defense, they can coach up 242 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 6: spread on offense, thirteen personnel, get it, get in heavy personnel, 243 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 6: they can coach all those things. They've at one point 244 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 6: or another within their career, they've they've been exposed to 245 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 6: different kinds of offenses and defenses. So they have the ability. 246 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 6: It's just a matter of do they have the confidence 247 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 6: to instill it on a on a snap you know 248 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 6: where they need to make quick decisions and quick changes. 249 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 6: And you know that, to me is what separates good 250 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 6: coaches from great coaches. 251 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 5: And remember one of the big questions if you're an 252 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 5: offensive guy, if you're Clint Kubiak, or you're Thomas Brown, Okay, 253 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 5: who's your defensive coordinator? If Robert Salah comes in or 254 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 5: Jeff Hafley comes in, all right, who's your offensive coordinator? 255 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 5: You know, what is their ability to land the opposing coordinator? 256 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 5: Someone will run the other side of the ball, do 257 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 5: you you know, can they identify that guy? And can 258 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 5: they hire that guy? 259 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 4: And then if you are the head coach, are you 260 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: still going to be calling plays on offense or defense 261 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: or are you going to be that CEO type and 262 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: let the offensive coordinator handle that and the defensive coordinator 263 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: handle that. All questions that we have don't quite have 264 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: the answers, at least not as today January thirteenth, But 265 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: we do know definitively Trey McBride the number one tied 266 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 4: end and all of the National Football League. We discussed 267 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 4: Trey next here on the Arizona Cardinals radio network. 268 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 5: Would let the right a throw to the right. 269 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: Mccride goes up high in the corner of the end 270 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: zone of the far side and makes the catch for 271 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: a touchdown and the Cardinals a point after away from 272 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: tying the game. 273 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 5: That is how you go make a play. 274 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: Throws to the right and it's caught by McBride and 275 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: he secures it for the touchdown. As he goes to 276 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: the ground, looks right, throws right, put on the goal line, touchdown. 277 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: Trey McBride. 278 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 5: When you need a touchdown, go to your best player. 279 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: Trey McBride, looks left, throws left, put McBride at the five. 280 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: He's hit at the one, but he frounces off a 281 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: defender hit the ends up with the Cardinal touchdown rose 282 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,359 Speaker 2: left side caught for a touchdown by Trey McBride. McBride, 283 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: with five catches now sets the NFL record for most 284 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: consecutive games by a tight end with at least five catches. 285 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: It's to pass away left side into the end zone 286 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: and it is caught for a touchdown by Trey McBride. 287 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: Having arguably the greatest single season in NFL history by 288 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: a tight end, he certainly is the best tight end 289 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: in the NFL right now. 290 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: A Pro bowler absolutely, and All Pro certainly, and almost 291 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: a unanimous selection amongst the voters forty nine out of fifties, 292 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: we say, welcome back here to the Cardinals Red Sea Report, 293 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: Greg Reia, Lupaul Calvic and Rob Fredrickson. Yes, forty nine 294 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: of fifty voted for Trey mc as the number one 295 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 4: tied end in the NFC. Hold on, now, sorry, does 296 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: that bother anyone? Okay, hey, I'll say this, being an 297 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: All Pro that separates you from everyone else because a 298 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 4: lot of players can call themselves a pro bowler. There 299 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 4: are a lot of Pro bowlers out there because guys 300 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: step out as far as tap out just a better 301 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 4: phrase as far as the Pro Bowl is concerned. But 302 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: when you are an All Pro, you are one of 303 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 4: one or one of two at your position. But Trey 304 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 4: McBride did not get the unanimous selection. The other vote 305 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 4: went to George Kittle, who finished third. Overall in the 306 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 4: voting behind Kyle Pitt. So the first place vote went 307 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: to the third place finisher. So bother you, Robin all 308 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: or the fact that hey, Trey can say he's an 309 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 4: All Pro and that's all that matters. 310 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 6: Do we know who the voter was? It was probably 311 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 6: somebody like it Paul's old neck of the woods, you know, 312 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 6: cow somebody up there. 313 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 5: So I mean some guy Obviously he doesn't do math. 314 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 5: I mean, what's going on? It wasn't even close. 315 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 6: And when you look at the stats, well, no, it 316 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 6: wasn't even close. Come on, I mean, look, Trey McBride 317 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 6: has to be the unanimous decision and and a lot 318 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 6: of that. So that now now we got to peel 319 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 6: back the onion, and how do we arrive at who 320 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 6: actually votes? And how do we arrive at who actually 321 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 6: votes for Pro Bowl. I've never been a fan of 322 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 6: actually of players voting for Pro Bowl. I don't think 323 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 6: they know. I think players get so get their blinders 324 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 6: on and get so fixated on what they're doing throughout 325 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 6: the year in terms of who they're preparing for and 326 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 6: what they're doing. They're not looking at other players. They're 327 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 6: not they don't know anything about players in the a 328 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 6: f C South or you know, to me, players voting 329 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 6: on on Pro Bowl shouldn't shouldn't be shouldn't be part 330 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 6: of it. I get the fans you want, you want 331 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 6: fan engaged. I understand that, but you know, players, for 332 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 6: the most part, they really don't know, and it becomes 333 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 6: a popularity contest. 334 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 5: Here's my prediction, thanks for asking, Craig. It's probably a 335 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 5: columnist in some city, someone who maybe used to be 336 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 5: a beat writer in the NFL and then graduate and 337 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 5: got promoted to columnists. Now writes on a bunch of 338 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 5: different sports, and maybe he isn't into it on a 339 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 5: daily basis, maybe one foot out the Dorn retirement, and 340 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 5: so is just voting on reputation. It's sort of like 341 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 5: one of whatever the playoff game was that Greg Olsen did. 342 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 5: And I love greg Olsen as an analyst, but when he's 343 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 5: talking about the tight end position, and he literally said 344 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 5: on the air, you know the premier tight ends in 345 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 5: the league, George Kittle and Travis Kelcey. That's like so 346 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 5: last year. I mean, greg Olsen should know was a 347 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 5: former tight end. If you're talking about the elite tight 348 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 5: ends in the league. The next step is for the 349 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 5: awareness and recognition and for the name Trey McBride to 350 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 5: get into the mainstream as the benchmark, as the gold 351 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 5: standard at the position. 352 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 4: Well, speaking of former players and what they feel on. 353 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 5: This whole Pro Bowl Pro all Pro. 354 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 4: Voting for tight end, Let's take you to the podcast 355 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 4: called Nightcap with Shannon Sharp and Chad Ocho Sinko. When 356 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: the results were announced that Trey McBride was not unanimous. 357 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 9: He got forty nine votes. It takes fifty to fifty voters. 358 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 9: O yo, Hey, Kittle played eleven game and he left 359 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 9: early at. 360 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: Another How about we find out who that who that 361 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: person is, I mean Kittle? 362 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 9: How many catches Kittle had? This man had damn near 363 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 9: seventy more catches to kill them, seventy more? Come on, now, 364 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 9: come on, what are we doing? What are we doing? Voters? 365 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 5: It always want to be somebody want to be different 366 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 5: because they like. 367 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 9: Rob rob shack of a unanimous MVP. You Rob lebron 368 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 9: of a unanimous MVP. Come on, man, seventy more catches, 369 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 9: six hundred and eleven more yards and he got a vote. 370 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 9: Y'all just ruin it? You know what, y'all y'all root 371 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 9: it for everybody. 372 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 4: And also Trey had four more touchdowns than George Kittle 373 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: as well. 374 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 5: See I don't go that far though. I mean, not 375 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 5: getting one measly vote does that ruin it? Absolutely not, not, 376 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 5: not in my book. I mean, you know, is it wrong? 377 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Yes? 378 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 5: Is it a big deal? 379 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 6: No? 380 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 5: Not in my book. And you're still first team All 381 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 5: Pro and got forty nine out of fifty votes. 382 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 6: Yeah. I doubt very seriously that Trey McBride cares or 383 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 6: even knows. He has to know by now, but it's 384 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 6: only because the media has made it, stirred it up 385 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 6: into something bigger than it is. I Trey, he could 386 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 6: care less. I guarantee you the only thing he cares 387 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 6: about is winning games. You can tell that by the 388 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 6: way he plays. 389 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 10: Well. 390 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 4: Let's hear from Trey McBride as we flash back to 391 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: Locker clean out. He was asked talking about Trey on 392 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 4: how he was able to enjoy and reflect on what 393 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: individually he accomplished in twenty twenty five. 394 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. 395 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 10: I don't really think about it that way, just kind 396 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 10: of focus on the year I'm in, stay the course, 397 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 10: and you know, we can look at that when it's 398 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 10: all said and done. But right now, just try to 399 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 10: be the best tight end that I can be and 400 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 10: you know, hopefully have a good another good year next year. 401 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: To your point, roberts about the wins, and yes, when 402 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 4: you win, then you get the accolades. 403 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 5: But Trey was so good. 404 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: This season, not only leading the team in receptions, receiving yards, 405 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: and receiving touchdowns, but breaking all kinds of franchise records, 406 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 4: NFL records at the position. I mean, finished seconds in 407 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 4: the league in receptions among all pass catchers with one 408 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty six. So you don't typically see the 409 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 4: tied end amongst the top three or top five pass 410 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: catchers at the end of the season. Yet there was 411 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 4: Trey McBride. And to his point, it's okay, I can 412 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: be successful individually, but I want to be on a 413 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 4: team that's successful. 414 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 6: Yeah. Sure, he's proud of his accomplishments. He's proud of 415 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 6: what he's done and what he's put the product he's 416 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 6: put out on a field. But for Trey, you can 417 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 6: tell it's all about team and it's all about winning. 418 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 6: And as far as the unanimous not being unanimously voted 419 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 6: All Pro twenty years from now, fifteen years from now, 420 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 6: it'll be it'll still be. He'll still be Trey McBride 421 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 6: All Pro. It won't be Trey McBride All Pro almost unanimous, 422 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 6: but only got forty nine out of fifty. 423 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 5: Let me excuse use this in terms of the respectometer. Okay, 424 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 5: something I just made up in the moment here. Respectometer. 425 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 5: And by that time we got to the end of 426 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 5: this season, it was redlining, was it not. Think about 427 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 5: the Houston game and those cloud coverages Tamiko Ryans and 428 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 5: their DC Matt Burke, that was the the crux of 429 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 5: their defensive game plan. We're gonna go these crazy cloud coverages. 430 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 5: Eighty five is not gonna beat us. And then Cincinnati 431 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 5: in the next week said, oh you know what, okay, 432 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 5: copycat league, and as Jacobe Brissett confirmed, they doubled Tray 433 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 5: a lot of the game and then shaded towards Michael Wilson. 434 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 5: So you saw the respect that he was getting. You 435 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 5: saw the degree of difficulty go way up in him 436 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 5: having to you know, his ability to get an easy target. 437 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 5: I mean almost every single catch was like hand to 438 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 5: hand combat. I Mean, this wasn't two years ago where 439 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 5: you know, a lot of teams are like, wait a minute, 440 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 5: eighty five, who's eighty five? And well, how does he 441 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 5: have a dozen catches? You know, this wasn't his breakout year. 442 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 5: The NFL defense of players and coaches, they know very 443 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 5: well what he's capable of at this point, Unlike that 444 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 5: one voter. They're very well aware, and so to me, 445 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 5: I think the respect is even greater, not only from opponents, 446 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 5: but I think in anur appreciation of it, the respect 447 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 5: should be that much greater because how much more difficult 448 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 5: it was. 449 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 4: Absolutely the voters might not know, the players know, The 450 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 4: coaches more importantly know based on how they work to 451 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: defend Trey McBride or limit his effectiveness. Now, the question is, 452 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 4: rob Okay, it was a career year for Trey. Following 453 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: a career year in twenty twenty four, what's the next step? 454 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 4: Is there a next step or is it just hey, 455 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: you did it once, can you do it repeatedly? 456 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 9: Well? 457 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Look, he's a consistent player. He's consistently put 458 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 6: up numbers. Last year, he just didn't have the touchdowns 459 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 6: to go with the receptions and the yards. But he's 460 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 6: going to continue on in the same vein that he 461 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 6: is now doesn't matter who the quarterback is, doesn't really 462 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 6: matter the style of the offense. Trey McBride is going 463 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 6: to continue to get open and and make catches and 464 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 6: and make plays. And you know, regardless of the offensive system. 465 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 6: Now you got you got Marvin Harrison Junior and and 466 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 6: Michael Wilson. Those are two nice additional assets there offensively 467 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 6: that whoever comes in here as offensive coordinator, whoever comes 468 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 6: in here as head coach, it's on them to to 469 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 6: develop and and and to figure out how to spread 470 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 6: the ball around to those three and and to to 471 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 6: really maximize their their you know, their tools, and and 472 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 6: to get the most out of them because as far 473 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 6: as I can see there, those three you you you 474 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 6: got to be excited if you're an offensive coordinator coming 475 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 6: into a situation where you have access to that kind 476 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 6: of talent. 477 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 5: Yep, I'm the next head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. 478 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 5: Signed on the line that has dotted, And then I asked, 479 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 5: MANI do you have eighty five's phone number? That's the 480 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 5: first call I make you good Trey, my name is 481 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 5: all right, you know, and then okay, what can I 482 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 5: do for you? Because you know, as soon as the 483 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 5: postseason ends for the rest of the NFC West and 484 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 5: they're all stinking gonna play this coming weekend. But as 485 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 5: soon as it ends, their off season task is how 486 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 5: do we stop the Cardinals Trey McBride two times a year, 487 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 5: because so far it's been an epic fail within the division. 488 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 4: Not only was Trey McBride a first team All Pro, 489 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 4: handful of other Cardinals received All Pro votes Spooda Baker, 490 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 4: Matt Hawk, and how about Kaleis Campbell one first place 491 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: votes for Special Teams on what he was able to 492 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 4: do this season at the age of thirty nine. So 493 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 4: well done, Kaleis Campbell. Paul brought up the playoffs, we 494 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 4: discuss wild card weekend and what happened in the NFC 495 00:24:52,640 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 4: that's next here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network, Love 496 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 4: gets the shotgun. 497 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 7: Snabby cropt it back to pass. Love in trouble spits 498 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 7: out to his left no time of the clock, bowing 499 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 7: right steps up, Love looking, He's still looking. He's gonna 500 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 7: throw it up the INSI intersecond D's dropped. It doesn't matter. 501 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: The game is over. 502 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 5: It's all over. 503 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 7: The Chicago Bears for the first time since twenty ten, 504 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 7: it's have won a playoff game. The drown is over 505 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 7: in the Windy City Bears thirty one, Packers twenty seven, 506 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 7: and the Bears will host the divisional round next week. 507 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 7: The Chicago Bears down twenty one three and a half 508 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 7: time rally backs and win. 509 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: It, score twenty five points in the fourth quarter to 510 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 4: knockoff the Packers. Ryan Radkey on Westwood One, one of 511 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: several close, exciting games in wild Card weekend. In fact, 512 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 4: four of the six decided by fewer than five points. 513 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 4: Twelve fourth quarter lead changes for all six games, the 514 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 4: most ever in a single round and in a single postseason. 515 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: A lot of those. 516 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 5: Games were in the NFC. 517 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 4: As we say, welcome back here on the Cardinals Red 518 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: Sea Report, taking a look at that NFC playoff picture, 519 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 4: and yes, the Bears now will host the Rams, who 520 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 4: won earlier on Saturday, beating the Panthers in Carolina thirty 521 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 4: four to thirty one. Paul as your where do you 522 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 4: go first when you're talking about the NFC and the 523 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: fact that well all three NFC West teams are still alive. 524 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll get to that in a minute. Let's talk 525 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 5: about Ben Johnson here. Guess what the twenty five point 526 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 5: fourth quarter. Saved your keyster for going forward a half 527 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 5: dozen times on fourth down. Two of them backfired in 528 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 5: the first half, I turned into Green Bay touchdowns, so 529 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 5: that resulted in a twenty one to three halftime lead. 530 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 5: It is amazing that there were forty one punt total, 531 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 5: it says here over wild Card weekend, whereas teams went 532 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 5: for it twenty nine times on fourth down fifteen to 533 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: twenty nine. Now the Bears are miserable on fourth down 534 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 5: and it nearly cost them, nearly cost them. But it 535 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 5: is interesting more than once. And maybe I should have 536 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 5: been yelling get off my lawn because I was yelling 537 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 5: at the screen take the points. But teams are not 538 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 5: inclined to do that, Rob and so especially when these 539 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 5: games are coming down to the wire and it is 540 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 5: playoff football. I just, you know, okay, but that's the 541 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 5: way twenty twenty five regular seasons set a record for 542 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 5: the fewest punts in a season. That is just the 543 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 5: way the NFL has been trending. 544 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I don't know if this is analytics or 545 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 6: you know, if some AI coach is telling them what 546 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 6: they need to be doing from the press box, but 547 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 6: for me, you're limited in terms of the number of 548 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 6: possessions you're going to get in a game, especially if 549 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 6: your opponent has a ball control style offense, You're not 550 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 6: going to get that many possessions, that many opportunities when 551 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 6: you're kind of in that gray area. You know, from 552 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 6: forty to the forty a lot of teams are going 553 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 6: for it, and you know it's I don't know what 554 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 6: the what the results are in terms of success rate, 555 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 6: but they don't care. They don't seem to care. They believe, 556 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 6: especially at this time of year, when you know you're 557 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 6: presumably you're in this position because you have a solid defense, 558 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 6: They're going for it. They're gonna they're gonna put the 559 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 6: onus on their d. 560 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 5: By the way, when Kaylee Hartung, the sideline reporter hashtag 561 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 5: sideline strong, asked Ben Johnson about, you know, what's going 562 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 5: on at halftime, and he just said, we want to 563 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 5: maximize our possessions and then if you have another really 564 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 5: good offense on the other side of the field, well okay, 565 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 5: then you try and keep them off the field, which 566 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 5: you've seen teams try and do with the rams. And 567 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 5: make sure you know, Matthew Stafford, you know doesn't get 568 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 5: as many possessions as possible. So I get it, but 569 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 5: you know, when you're going forward on your own thirty two, 570 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 5: I mean there are just some risk reward situations To 571 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 5: get a little dicey. 572 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 6: Big pitcher here real quick for the crowd that says, 573 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 6: you know, it's not about the coaches. The players win 574 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 6: football games. Look at Ben Johnson, right, Look what he's 575 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 6: done for the Bears. Look look at the impact that 576 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 6: getting the right coach can have on a team. You 577 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 6: see it in Jacksonville as well. 578 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 4: A one year turnaround, something that owner Michael Bidwell alluded 579 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 4: to reference a week ago when the decision was made 580 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 4: to make a change at head coach. And Ben Johnson 581 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 4: has the Bears in the playoffs and winning, as you 582 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: heard on that final call, their first playoff since twenty ten. 583 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 4: So they will host the Los Angeles Rams, who again 584 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 4: a fourth quarter of the ages in that Panthers contest, 585 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 4: four fourth quarter lead changes in that game alone. Matthew Stafford, 586 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 4: who is okay despite spraining his finger, Colby Parkinson for 587 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 4: the game winning touchdown with thirty eight seconds left. Stafford, 588 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: who I don't see retiring anytime soon. Rob finished with 589 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 4: over three hundred passing yards and three touchdowns, two of 590 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 4: which came in the fourth quarter. 591 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 6: I guess if you're going to retire, you potentially go 592 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 6: out being the MVP. I mean, what an unbelievable season 593 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 6: he's had. Going into the season. I remember his back 594 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 6: was all jacked up, and you know, there was thoughts of, 595 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 6: you know, with this guy, but we might not have 596 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 6: access to this guy. He's not he might not even 597 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 6: play very much. But he rested it, got it well 598 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 6: well enough to put down the numbers and the accomplishments 599 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 6: that he's done this season is just remarkable, and he 600 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 6: continues to flash and show just the brilliance of his 601 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 6: ability not only just a cerebral but what his arm 602 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 6: strength is. That is something that has not waned at all. 603 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 5: You know, the Rams, to me aren't playing nearly as 604 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 5: clean of football, a brand of football as they were 605 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 5: earlier in the year. If you're a Ram, Sam, and 606 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 5: I think you got a worry did we peak too soon? 607 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 5: Because there was some sloppy football out there, and McVeigh 608 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 5: talked about it after the game. But if they're looking 609 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 5: for that little extra slice of motivation, what Ben Johnson 610 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 5: did to Matt Lafleur at the end of the game 611 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 5: with a handshake, which, in my opinion, thanks again for asking, Craig, 612 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 5: I thought was bush league and unnecessary. Well, guess what, 613 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 5: Sean McVay happens to be Matt Lafleur's bestie, and Mike Lafleour, 614 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 5: younger brother of Matt Lafleur, is on the Rams staff. 615 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 5: So if there's a chance to run, run it up 616 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 5: and rub it in, I think the Rams will. 617 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 6: The little handshake was unnecessary and classless. I agree with you, Paul, 618 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 6: But what do you think they think about Ben Johnson 619 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 6: in Chicago? 620 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 9: Oh? 621 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 5: You know, you're right, you know right now? Oh yeah, 622 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 5: it's a Bears town and he's the man. 623 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 6: They're looking to maybe put something right next to uh 624 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 6: ditka in terms, I mean, I won't go that far 625 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 6: that this early, but I mean he has endeared himself 626 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 6: to the city of Chicago. 627 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 4: So the Rams will play at the Bears that is Sunday, 628 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: the late slot four point thirty is the CAF and 629 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 4: then on Saturday night you've got the forty nine ers 630 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 4: going to Seattle. The Seahawks, the number one seed, did 631 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: not play over wild Card weekend. Forty nine ers did. 632 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: Going into Philadelphia and beating the Eagles twenty three to nineteen, 633 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 4: Rock Party with his fourth career postseason game winning drive, 634 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 4: a four yard touchdown pass to Christian McCaffrey. The key play, though, 635 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 4: happened earlier in the fourth quarter lease in my opinion, 636 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 4: Rob and that was Juwan Jennings, a four star dual 637 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 4: threat quarterback in high school, with the twenty nine yard 638 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 4: toss to McCaffrey for the touchdown. As Kyle Shanahan breaking 639 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 4: out all the tricks to get a victory in Philadelphia, you. 640 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 6: Do what you got to do to win the game. 641 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 6: But yeah, that was a gutsy call, an unbelievable execution, 642 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 6: and Christian McCaffrey to me, kind of just took over 643 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 6: the game. I don't think it was the best game 644 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 6: that brock Perty has ever played in San Francisco, was 645 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 6: you know, struggling offensively, defensively, I think they did phenomenal, 646 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 6: a phenomenal job against the Philadelphia Eagles, And but Christian 647 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 6: McCaffrey to me, he kind of he kind of just 648 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 6: solidified things and took over that game. 649 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm real curious to see against the Seattle defense 650 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 5: which you know, Seattle is is making a run at 651 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 5: Houston for best most disruptive defense in the league right now, 652 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 5: all right, what is Kyle Shanahan have in mind for 653 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald Just sort of just the two masterminds going 654 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 5: going against each other. It's the game within the game. 655 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 5: Trent Williams is back, obviously that made a big difference. 656 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 5: But the Niners offensive line has been a little spotty, 657 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 5: and now without George Kittle after he tore his achilles. Okay, 658 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 5: do they have enough in terms of weapons? We know 659 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 5: there's a lot of no names on defense. Now they're 660 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 5: dealing with no names on offense, even though you know 661 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 5: DeMarcus Robinson looked like John Taylor, you know, do Jerry 662 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 5: Rice back in the day. So it is interesting how 663 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan and Robert Sala continue to coach up these 664 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 5: guys and get a lot of production out of dudes 665 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 5: down on the depth chart. 666 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 4: Find a way no matter who's available, they will find 667 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: a way. By the way, forty nine Ers and Seahawks 668 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 4: they split the season series, each winning on the road. 669 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 4: So you have that as far as the forty nine 670 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 4: Ers going into Seattle not scared at all, and this 671 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 4: is a game, and I don't know where you fall 672 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 4: on this, Rob. I made it known earlier in the 673 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 4: week on Cardinals Cover two. I don't want the NFC 674 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 4: West to do well. I would prefer them not to 675 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 4: have successful playoff runs. Though I understand why because or why. 676 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 4: The flip side would be, Okay, well, you're you're You're 677 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 4: in the toughest division, so you get a chance to 678 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 4: measure yourself and it's good. Competition makes yourself better. It's 679 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 4: for me, it's like, no, I'd rather anyone but someone 680 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 4: in the NFC West to win. 681 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 6: I'm coming. I'm kinda the opposite of you. I'm of 682 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 6: the mindset that I want the NFC West to be 683 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 6: so good and and to be you know, continue like 684 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 6: they are into the playoffs, deep into the playoffs. It 685 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 6: just I think it makes the division look so much 686 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 6: bet better and so much tougher. It's already the toughest 687 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 6: division in football. The Arizona Cardinals, I think if they 688 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 6: can get a quarterback, if they can get a head coach, 689 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 6: they put all the pieces together, they can be competitive 690 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 6: again in this division. I'm not of the mindset that 691 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 6: the talent on this roster is so far removed from 692 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 6: what we're seeing from these other teams. I just think 693 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 6: if we get it utilized a right way and the 694 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 6: right pieces in place, you know, I'd love to be 695 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 6: in that conversation. And when the playoffs come around. 696 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's not forget Week three and four, the Arizona 697 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 5: Cardinals had both the Seahawks and the forty nine Ers 698 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 5: beat and then lost to the very end and walk 699 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 5: off field goals. So to Rob's point, I don't think 700 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 5: the divide is nearly as vast as what the win 701 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 5: loss standings say it is. But to me, the NFC 702 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 5: West is what the SCC says it is, except its reality. Yeah, 703 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 5: SEC goes out in the bowl games and is terrible. 704 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 5: Guess what NFC West? 705 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 9: Wow? 706 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 5: I mean they really did? You know? Iron sharpens Iron 707 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 5: and Craig. You got to come to grips with the 708 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 5: fact it's gonna be an all NFC West championship game 709 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 5: and there will be a Super Bowl winner out of 710 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 5: the NFC West. 711 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 4: Let's just hope it's not the forty nine Ers in 712 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 4: their own building. Let's hope that's not happening on Super 713 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 4: Bowl Sunday. By the way, speaking of the Super Bowl 714 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 4: and NFC West team has played in a Super Bowl 715 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 4: in seven seasons since twenty twelve, more than any other division. 716 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 4: So again, the best rides in the West. This is 717 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 4: the Arizona cardin Oles Radio network. 718 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 11: Rogers empty batfield. He'll get the Sean gunsnaf four man 719 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 11: rush sets in a pocket, hit them behind Towny goes. 720 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 5: Did he lose the ball? 721 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 11: Rodgers is down the ball picked up on the play 722 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 11: by rankns. He'll run it down the middle from the 723 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 11: twenty to the ten to the five in a touchdown. 724 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 5: He was not chased. 725 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 11: He was not chased. It's a defensive touchdown for the 726 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 11: here'ston Texans light and drive down the middle interception as 727 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 11: the fifty and picked off on the play by pull up. 728 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 11: He's down the far side, thirty far side, twenty down 729 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 11: the far sideline, ten five touchdown. Rogers has thrown a 730 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 11: pick six and what might be the final pass of 731 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 11: his career and pull it, pulled it off down the 732 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 11: far sideline, feering toward the end zone and get six. 733 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 4: By the way, that was the score going into the 734 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 4: fourth quarter last night, seven to six Houston. They win 735 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 4: thirty to six on the strength of a pair of 736 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 4: defense and touchdowns scored by the Texans. Kevin Harlan on 737 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 4: Westwood One with the play by play that Texans defense 738 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 4: finished with four sacks, twelve quarterback hits, eight tackles for loss, 739 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 4: four passes defense, and they made life miserable for one 740 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. It was fun to watch from afar oh. 741 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 6: I mean, if you love defensive football, that's a defense 742 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 6: you gotta study and appreciate. They are. They are nasty 743 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 6: up front in the secondary. They do not give you 744 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 6: any oxygen as an offense. And so yeah, I mean, 745 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 6: the Texans put it to Pittsburgh late. Obviously, it was 746 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 6: a close game for a while because of how bad CJ. 747 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 6: Stroud was playing. He was giving Pittsburgh every opportunity to 748 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 6: walk away with this game. But that defense for the 749 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 6: Texans is something special. 750 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 5: All right. So here's the question on ESPN. I'm looking 751 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 5: at the monitor right now, NFL Live. Is CJ. Stroud 752 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 5: in the way of the Texans winning the Super Bowl. 753 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 5: It's an intriguing question because he turned it over three 754 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 5: times and he was not good, and a lot of 755 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 5: people were even saying, you know what, Davis Mills should 756 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 5: have checked into that game. All right, because you do 757 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 5: have a super Bowl caliber defense, right, two defensive touchdowns. 758 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 5: You sacked Aaron Rodgers four times, felt like he hit 759 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 5: him forty times. He held him to one hundred and 760 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 5: seventy five toll. Here's against a guy who's seen everything 761 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 5: and you were still able to take them. Just look 762 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 5: in nept On offense and then Pittsburgh offensive line was 763 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 5: in way over its head and Tamiko Ryans after the 764 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 5: game called it the best defensive performance in the history 765 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 5: of the franchise. Wow, and you're thinking that's hyperbole, but 766 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 5: then you realize Amiko Ryans was the dude. He's been 767 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 5: there the majority of the existence of the franchise. That's 768 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 5: quite a statement. 769 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. You know, look, I know I understand CJ. Stroud 770 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 6: was trying to make plays, but you can't compound bad 771 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 6: a bad play by trying to make something happen. And 772 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 6: then you know, it just makes it worse. You just 773 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 6: can't have that. And you know, so I had an 774 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 6: old coach who always said, make sure every possession ends 775 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 6: with a kick, either a punt, a field goal, or 776 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 6: an extra point, and you just so you just can't 777 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 6: turn the ball over, especially in the playoffs, but the 778 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 6: defense bailed out CJ. Stroud every time. 779 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 4: By the way, the Texans are three to zero when CJ. 780 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,280 Speaker 4: Stroud has three or more turnovers, so they are winning, 781 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 4: my gosh, in spite of the quarterback. Also tip of 782 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 4: the cap to former Arizona Cardinal wide receiver and local 783 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 4: phenom Christian Kirk a career high one hundred and forty 784 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 4: four receiving yards and a touchdown in that game last night. 785 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 4: So the Texans advance on the strength of their defense. 786 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 4: They will head to New England on Sunday afternoon to 787 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 4: play a Patriots team that, speaking of defense, one beat 788 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 4: up the Chargers sixteen to three. Justin Herbert was sacked 789 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 4: six times and the Chargers only had two hundred and 790 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 4: seven total yards. So my guess is, Paul, this will 791 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 4: be a six to three game, nine to six game 792 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 4: on Sunday. 793 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 5: And guess what if if Houston, which has won ten 794 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 5: in a row now despite all those turnovers by c J. Stroud, 795 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 5: if they have one liability, I would say it is 796 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 5: the offensive line. And remember playing Houston Lade in the 797 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 5: year and A Q. Shiffley, you know, sort of broke 798 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 5: some of that down and guess what New England to 799 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 5: your point, a half dozen sacks. Justin Herbert was like 800 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 5: crashed as dummy most of that game. He was getting 801 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 5: hit near every bit as often and every bit as 802 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 5: quickly as Aaron Rodgers was. So all right, once again, 803 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 5: what is the formula for winning football? Quarterback? Get to 804 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 5: the quarterback, protect that quarterback. And you see that in 805 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 5: the playoffs. 806 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, and Drake May to me has been right in 807 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 6: the conversation for MVP with Michael with Stafford, and you 808 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 6: know it's just the way he's playing, the way he 809 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 6: conducts himself and is in full control of that offense. 810 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 6: For New England. Yeah, the defense is playing great, but 811 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 6: you know what, Houston's gonna come to town and defense 812 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 6: travels in the playoffs and especially in bad weather, so 813 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 6: you know they're gonna put some pressure on Drake May. 814 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 6: He's gonna be he's gonna have to figure it out. 815 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 6: But I like New England. I'd really do at home. 816 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 6: It feels like this is a team that's that's really 817 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,959 Speaker 6: in position to go far again. 818 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 4: One o'clock is the kickoff on Sunday. That game will 819 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 4: be televised by ESPN. The other game out of the 820 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 4: AFC that we need to touch on. The Bills knocked 821 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 4: off the Jaguars twenty seven to twenty four. They will 822 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 4: now head to Denver to play the number one Broncos. 823 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 4: That game will be Saturday afternoon at two thirty on CBS. 824 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 4: But the Bills when their first road playoff game since 825 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety two, snapping an eight game losing streak, and 826 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 4: it wasn't the arm of Josh Allen. It was the 827 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 4: legs of Josh Allen. Especially late in that one, there 828 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 4: was the tush push for found its way near the 829 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 4: goal line. Then you have to figure out, all right, 830 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 4: what do you do? Do you take a knee? Well, 831 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 4: let's just score. And in the course, the Bills intercept 832 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence on the final play of the game to 833 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 4: seal that one. But this Bills team without when you 834 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 4: look around the quarterback landscape in the AFC and maybe 835 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 4: even the NFL rob it's okay, if you're not gonna 836 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 4: win it this year, Josh Allen, when are you going 837 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 4: to win it? 838 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 6: Well, this game it wasn't just about the legs of 839 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 6: Josh Allen is but the finger of Josh Allen. Do 840 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 6: you see that hit on the helmet. I think Paul 841 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 6: would still be in the ICU if that happened to you. 842 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 6: I mean that that to me, I thought it was 843 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 6: immediately broken. I thought that this game was over, the 844 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 6: season over. But he's a tough dude, Josh Allen. He 845 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 6: has gone through so much. He's a guy that almost 846 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 6: puts that team on his shoulders metaphorically, but he almost 847 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 6: does it himself and wills that team to victory. And 848 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 6: you're right, you know, if they don't do it this year, 849 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 6: when is it gonna happen? Because Josh Allen repeatedly just 850 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 6: a phenomenal player throughout the regular season. They get to 851 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 6: the playoffs and for whatever reason, they can't seem to 852 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 6: get it together. But that of itself against Jacksonville was 853 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 6: a great game. And Jacksonville is a great season with 854 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 6: a new head coach too. Liam Cohen said, I mean, 855 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 6: phenomenal year for them. 856 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 5: Josh Allen has played in fourteen playoff games. That was 857 00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 5: his first fourth quarter comeback, so even he's evolving improved. 858 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 5: Although I will say this, if I had Josh Allen, 859 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 5: I would not be running quarterback power from the two 860 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 5: yard line and with a goal line defense running in 861 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 5: between the tackles like they did earlier in that game. 862 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 7: I just. 863 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 5: At some point, you know, maybe Buffaloes used to having 864 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 5: a franchise quarterback. I would value and covet Josh Allen 865 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,919 Speaker 5: more than going quarterback power all the time with him 866 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 5: at the goal line and have him at the bottom 867 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 5: of the pile as consistently as they do. They're lucky 868 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 5: to Rob's point that he's even available and healthy for 869 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,479 Speaker 5: this next game. 870 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 4: He is physical, and I think he almost enjoys it. 871 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 4: I mean, he has the size to maybe a standard. 872 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 4: But to your point, Paul, Okay, at some point, maybe 873 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 4: your lucky is gonna run out. 874 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 5: You certainly don't want it to happen. 875 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 4: In the playoffs. 876 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 5: I mean, sometimes you have to save players from themselves, 877 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 5: and he is. He's a really big dude, and he's 878 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 5: used to running but man goal line between the tackles. 879 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 5: I mean, come on. 880 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 4: Now, Saturday, here he is your lineup again, Bills at 881 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 4: the Broncos, followed by fort at Seahawks. Then Sunday, get 882 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 4: your day started with Texans at Patriots, Rams at Bears follows, 883 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 4: and that is your divisional matchups for this upcoming weekend. 884 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 4: Then the course, we'll talk about it next week here 885 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 4: on the Cardinals Red Sea Report, and maybe talked about 886 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 4: the coaching search as well. 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