1 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Anyway. 2 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: Can you hear me? 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: Yes, I can. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: I can hear you perfectly clear. All right, Hi everybody, 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: welcome to the Renee Stubs Tennis Podcast. I am Renee 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: Stubbs and it is time for me to introduce Andrea 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Petko Bitch, she's back. She's on on the pod. We 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: love to hear it and see it. 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 4: Hi, Renee, you have a water stain behind your heads. 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Well mate, we're not worried about the water staying because 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: this is a podcast, it is not a visual podcast. Okay, 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: so you just need to not worry about that. 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 4: Just worried about the mold and your health. 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: Oh well, thanks buddy. But I'm only going to be 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: here for a short amount of time. 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: So we're. 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: Petco Washington d C is on right now. Wmbledon has finished. 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: The grasses are overall under the hardcourt. You are working 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: for Tennis Channel, and can we just start with the 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: story of the week with Venus Williams at forty five 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: years of age winning her first round here. 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 4: That was amazing, That was really amazing. 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: Can you give me your total thoughts of this as 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: somebody who played against Venus, I played against Venus, Like 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: this is just incredible what we saw last night. You 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: called the match for Tennis Channel with Mark Petchi. Just 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: give me your overall thoughts about what you watched. 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. So, I think the first thing that I want 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: to say is that I got It's hard for me 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 4: to get goosebumps anymore. I think you know that feeling 31 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: when you start working for media. You watch so many 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 4: matches and you tell so many storylines that at one 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: point you almost get desensitized to fun narratives and fun 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: stories and special moments. But when Venus walked out onto 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: Stadium Court and Washington, DC, I had goose bumps all 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: over my body. The audience was so happy to see her. 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: It was so loud, she was beaming, And I think 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,279 Speaker 4: that's what makes me the happiest seeing her. She looks 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: so happy with her life and where she's at. It 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 4: just seems like she's at a very good place. And 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: that could be told in her tennis because I thought 42 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 4: she was playing so much better than the last time 43 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: I saw her. Her service motion is simplified. She goes 44 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: straight up, she keeps the elbow nice and high, which 45 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 4: wasn't the case in the last times that we've seen 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: her play. She hit nine aces, only two double faults 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: second serve. A few were slow, but not all of them. 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: There were a few and important moments that she really 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: hit nicely. And the forehand is short, a shorter take 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 4: back on the forehand, So just overall a completely not revamped, 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: but completely adjusted Venus Williams. And it was just a 52 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 4: pleasure to watch. And you could tell with Peyton Sterns 53 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 4: who was her opponent and who was on the other side. 54 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: I thought you could tell that she was in awe 55 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: of the legend on the other court was playing, and 56 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: before she shook her nerves, it was already a set 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: and a breakdown. And then she started playing a bit better. 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: But then Venus was and we talked about it off 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: air a little bit. Then Venus already had smelled the 60 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 4: blood right she went out and she was like, I 61 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: don't know where I stand, which is normal even for 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 4: a champ like Venus, when you haven't played in almost 63 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: I think. 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Sixteen or sixteen months. 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: Sixteen months, Yeah, I think it's normal that even as 66 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: a champion like Venus, you don't know where you stand. 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: And once, once she got going and once she felt 68 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: that she could win, she went into this full champ's 69 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: mind where she's just rolling over you. And then it 70 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: was really cute that she did get a little nervous 71 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: in the end. She had like five or six match 72 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: points to close it out. There was a double fault 73 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 4: on one, and it just comes to show that even 74 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: these champions and legends of the sport are human after all, 75 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: and even they feel feel the sensations of a human being. 76 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: How did you watch the whole thing? 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: I agree, Like I have to say, you said that 78 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: you've got goosebumps when she walked out and the crowd 79 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: went crazy, and of course I was there. I was 80 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: right there at courtside when she walked out, and Andrew 81 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: Crasny was standing next to me, who's the court announcer. 82 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: You've seen him many many times on all the Tennis 83 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: channel and tournaments. It was like he looked at me 84 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: and goes, is there ever been a fiercer face when 85 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: they walk onto the court than Venus and Serena Williams. 86 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: The way she just walked on the court with this 87 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: like look of like determination and she didn't smile she 88 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: walked out. There was like, yeah, I'm not here for 89 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: an exhibition. I'm actually here to win, you know what 90 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: I mean. And it was really interesting to see that 91 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: from her perspective, like she was coming out to actually 92 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: play a match, not just like pretend to be there, 93 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then I was a 94 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: little worried at the start when she lost her first 95 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: service game. It wasn't a great game that she played, 96 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: but I knew that the one thing about playing Peyton 97 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 2: Peyton does not have a great serve, and her second 98 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: serve in particular, is very, very vulnerable. She double folded 99 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: a lot of times yesterday because of that vulnerability. And 100 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: also I knew that Venus, no matter what the question was, 101 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: could she move well enough right at forty five, not 102 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: playing a lot of matches. As you know, Petco, when 103 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: you don't play a lot of matches, it's a movement 104 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: that's sort of a little bit suspect because you sort 105 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: of lose the way a player plays the point. You 106 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: sort of like forget the angles, you forget oh that's right, 107 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: that normally they'll go there. You sort of forget how 108 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: to play tennis in a lot of sense, and that 109 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: sounds weird. Yes, you can hit the ball, but playing 110 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: points is very different. So I was a little concerned. 111 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: But then when I saw Peyton throw up just an 112 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: absolute like low hanging fruit on the first point, a 113 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: second serve and Venus just absolutely crushed the foehand winner, 114 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, she's actually going to have a 115 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: chance to not only win this match, but certainly get 116 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: into it if she breaks serf. Because then you saw 117 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: her calm down, slow down. She talked about that in 118 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: the post match interview, how she was like, everything was 119 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: really quick, I had to slow down, and that's what 120 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: I saw. I saw her take a big, deep breath 121 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: after she broke serve and thought, oh, I can break her. 122 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: So if I can break her, if I can take 123 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: my time and win my service games. You could see 124 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: that that's what gave her the impotence and the positivity 125 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: that she could actually maybe hang in this match. I 126 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: don't know if she thought she could win at that point, 127 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: but then, as you said, once she got ahead in 128 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 2: that set, you're like, okay, because the matchup was great 129 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: for her. Somebody that didn't hit a big ball that 130 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: really didn't make her move that much, and Venus was 131 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: in control of the point, whether it be on the 132 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: return or on her serf, and she served awesome yesterday, 133 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: And that was also the question that we had to 134 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: be asked, how was she going to serve right? And 135 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: as you already pointed out, clearly, she got a little 136 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: nervous right towards the end, and we were all setting 137 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: their courtside, and everyone was like, Okay, do you think 138 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: she serves it out? And I was like, I was unsure. 139 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: And the only reason I was unsure was because sometimes 140 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: the second serve gets a little nervous. But she hadn't 141 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: won a match in two years. It's not even the 142 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: fact that she hadn't She hadn't won a match since 143 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Okay, so her last match was twenty 144 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: twenty four, but she hadn't won a match for over. 145 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: To her last So her last match that you won, 146 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 4: we had a Dontanna's channel was against Veronica kudr Matova 147 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three Cincinnati Open, So that was the 148 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: last match she won. So that's even more than sixteen 149 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 4: months of not having played. 150 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's two years of not winning a match. And 151 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: some people say, well, what's the difference between winning a 152 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: match and playing a match? Huge, because you forget almost 153 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: how to win, and it almost becomes such a monumental 154 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: thing to win the match. It's hard to explain, but 155 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: I could see it in her face a little bit 156 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: in that last game. But the serve on match point 157 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: right into the body at like, you know, huge. And 158 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: one thing that she hasn't lost, my goodness, is the 159 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: speed on her first serve. I mean, she was popping 160 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: down serves yesterday, so I knew when she got the 161 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: rhythm on a serve and it was okay, and she 162 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: wasn't double faulting. And her forehand, as you said, was 163 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: great yesterday. Her groundstrokes I mean for her age and 164 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: the fact that she hasn't played in so long, her 165 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: movement was unbelievable. 166 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 167 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing with Venus always that even when 168 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: so even when she was at her peak, people would say, oh, 169 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 4: you just have to move her. And that is such 170 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: a confusing thing to say against Venus because maybe she's 171 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: not as nimble as say Jasmine Paulini, but she has 172 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: the longest levers of any player I have ever seen, 173 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: and she gets to everything. I played her, maybe not 174 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 4: at her full fall prime, but I did play her 175 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 4: between I want to say twenty fourteen or even early 176 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: at twenty eleven and twenty seventeen a bunch of times 177 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: and U and you know she yes, you have to 178 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: move her. I'm putting quotation marks around it because she 179 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 4: has such long levers and you saw it yesterday. She 180 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: is one of the fiercest competitors out there. She will stumble, 181 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: she will stumble and hustle and get to every single 182 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 4: ball and run for every single ball, and that in 183 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: the end does make the call court feel small. And yeah, 184 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: no it was. It was amazing to watch and could 185 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 4: still see what kind of power and pay she she 186 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: can produce and create and the only thing I wish 187 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 4: I could have seen more, but it was clearly what 188 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: you said. The matchup was terrible for Peyton Stearns because 189 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: she has that extreme grip on the forehand. She prefers 190 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: the clay courts and slower courts. Washing the c traditionally 191 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 4: plays quick. Is it the same this year? 192 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: Very quick? Shit? It is? 193 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it looks very quick on TV and traditionally 194 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: it was always one of the quicker hard courts. So 195 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: the first strike of Venus was already doing the damage 196 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 4: and Peyton had to lift the ball and then Venus 197 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 4: can go after it. The only thing I wish I 198 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: would have seen more and I think we will see 199 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 4: in the next round is Venus at the net because 200 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 4: that's one of my favorite things to watch, how she 201 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 4: moves at the net and how she always moves forward 202 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: and with the long arm so she gets to to 203 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: bullies that seem impossible and it's really fun. And also 204 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: I want to say I'm very proud of myself for 205 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: not butchering her name a single time because, as you know, 206 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 4: Renee and my friend, for Germans, say a V and 207 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 4: then a W is really hard, So Venus Williams is 208 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: really hard to say for me, the same like West 209 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: Village because we don't have this type of of how 210 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: do you say sounds in German, so I had to 211 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: focus so hard to say Venus Williams correctly. And props 212 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: to me in that regard for not butchering her name 213 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 4: a single time. 214 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 5: Well, the thing that I always tell you is pretend 215 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 5: the v's a W and the ws a V and 216 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 5: then yeah, that's yes exactly that you just have to 217 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 5: spell Venus's name with a W Venus or Williams, and 218 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 5: then you'll name it every time. 219 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: No, that's so that's so funny. Yeah, I think you know, 220 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: for me, I don't think people understand what you're talking about. 221 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: In a lot of ways, if you haven't played her length, 222 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: particularly on that n range where she's running for a ball, 223 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, she's in trouble, and she still gets 224 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: to it. And even last night there were a couple 225 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: of times on her back end she would get over 226 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: there and still make she had I would argue to 227 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 2: say that Venus Williams has for me the best running, defensive, 228 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: aggressive back end. If that isn't even a thing, like 229 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: when you think she's in trouble, she's still It's kind 230 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: of like what Carlos Alcarez has done so well over 231 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. And you think about you know, 232 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: Yannik and Novak and the way that they hit that 233 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: open stance back end. I mean, Venus and Serena both 234 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: basically brought that open stance sort of start making on 235 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: the back end into play and we saw it so 236 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: beautifully last night. I have to talk a little bit 237 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: about the post match interview, which was plastic Venus, like 238 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: you and I talked about it. You can ask Venus 239 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: a certain question, but she goes into tangents like nobody 240 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: else and the fact that I can honestly say this 241 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: and people that listen to this podcast. 242 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: No. 243 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 2: I mean, I know my podcast with her was terrible 244 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: sound because I did at her house and it's a 245 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: long story, but I promise to everybody out there, I'll 246 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: try and get venus again on my podcast. But one 247 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: of the things that we discussed on the I think 248 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: it was on the podcast, was her talking about or 249 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: maybe you'd just talked about her in general with me 250 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: off off camera or off recording. She talked about the 251 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: insurance of the WTA, and as you know, pet Goo, 252 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: the WTA insurance is actually amazing. It's worldwide. It gave 253 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: us great coverage. We didn't have to pay that much 254 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: comparative to what we pay now all I pay now 255 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: in the US, and so it's great coverage. So we 256 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: joked about it, like whenever I did the podcast, where 257 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: she was like, girl, I gotta keep playing so I 258 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 2: can stay on the medical insurance and I died when 259 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: she said to me then, I was like, that's a 260 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: good idea. So don't announce your retirement, not for at 261 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: least a year or two until they come after you 262 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: and say listen, you got to keep playing or we 263 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: got to take you off the insurance. And so when 264 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: she said it yesterday on in the postmatch interview, you 265 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: couldn't see me because I was off camera, but I 266 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: almost fell on the ground. I was dying laughing because 267 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, that's so funny haha. But I'm like, 268 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 2: oh no, but it's serious because she really means it, 269 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: because that's the second time she said it to me. 270 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: Now and Andrew Krasny again, he said, he posted on 271 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: our Instagram she is the Cobra Slayer because she's back 272 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: now she's got a least medical insurance again, so funny. 273 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: That is funny. Yeah, that is funny. Well, on the 274 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 4: of insurances, So when I retired, I also got thrown 275 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: off the insurance. So I tried to get a private 276 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: insurance in Germany. So in Germany you can either go 277 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: through the state or a private insurance. And I think 278 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: to go through the state you need to be employed. 279 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: Not sure, but anyway, so I was trying to get 280 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: an insurance and nobody wanted me because an athlete is 281 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 4: really hard to ensure because we have we come with 282 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 4: a bunch of damage we come with a. 283 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: Bunch of damage. As Vana said, I'm in the doctors 284 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: a lot. 285 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, exactly, Yeah, so I yeah, I had to 286 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: hire somebody that like an an insurance agent who finally 287 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: got me onto an insurance But yeah, that was that 288 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: was really funny. And she looked so happy. But already before, 289 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 4: like already in the doubles, I thought in the postmatch interview, 290 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 4: in the doubles, in her press conference before the tournament started, 291 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 4: she just seems to be very happy and at ease 292 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 4: with where she's at and and play, and you can tell. 293 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 4: And that's why she's playing well. And I think she 294 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: has a good shot. They're winning the next round too. 295 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: Make da Fresh doesn't play too fast, is more of 296 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 4: a counterpuncher. If Venus can get the first strike in 297 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: as she did yesterday on these quick chords and it's 298 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: fast out there, hey, I don't count her out at all. 299 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: I absolutely one hundred percent agree with you. I mean, 300 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: she got the you know, a perfect little draw there, 301 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: as you said, somebody who's not going to strike the 302 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: ball big and get her moving quickly, and she will 303 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: dominate from the first shot, whether it be the return 304 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: or the surf because she's serving huge sill and I 305 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: think the improvement level on that is amazing. But also 306 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: at the same time, it's just a matter of physicality now, right, 307 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: how is she going to back up playing the singles 308 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: match yesterday? It wasn't too it wasn't long, But it's 309 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: it's people don't understand all the nerves that go along 310 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: with it. You push yourself a lot more in a 311 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: match than you do on practice. So I'm sure today 312 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: she she has was out there practicing already today at 313 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: like noon here in Washington. She does have a doubles 314 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: match still ahead of her as well, and so it's 315 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: going to be just a matter of load and how 316 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: she can handle that and then the physicality of it. 317 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: I think if she's if she's healthy, there's no question 318 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: she can win the next round. There's no doubt about 319 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: that in my mind. And if that's the case, she 320 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: will play the winner of Rebarking and Mumbaco. So you 321 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: would think that Rebarkin will probably end up winning that 322 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: match against the young Canadian, but you never know. But 323 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't it be fun to see two Wimbledon champions going 324 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: up against each other. I mean, the tournament is beside themselves. 325 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: This is one of the great stories in sports right now, 326 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: and what an honor it was to not only see 327 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: her play, but obviously do the POSTMAK interview with her 328 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: after knowing her since she was like twelve. So for me, 329 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: it was like a lot of fun, just your thoughts 330 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: overall about what else is going on here in DC. 331 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: As I said, you were doing all the commentary Emma 332 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: Radicanu who had a good win yesterday, And I have 333 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: to say that level of tennis that she played yesterday 334 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: was really really good. I mean, her level has certainly 335 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: improved over the last couple of months. It's nice to 336 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: see her playing at a great level. And she now 337 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: goes She beat cost Chuk who was a seventh seed, 338 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: which is a really good win, but she now goes 339 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: up against Osaka, so I'm sort of really looking forward 340 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: to that matchup. 341 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. I mean, Emma has been playing really well. 342 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: I want to say, actually since Mark Petchi came on 343 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: her team in Miami. I think they had their first 344 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: talks in Indian Wells and then Miami Open was the 345 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 4: first tournament when Mark Petchi went on. They've been together 346 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: now for a few months since the Miami Opened. She's 347 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: played great there. She played fantastic in Wimbledon. She had 348 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: a really tough draw. Remember she played Vondrusova in the 349 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: second round. She played somebody tough in thea. 350 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: Oh, she lost to Sabolnka, but yeah, I. 351 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: Don't know she played it. She played a young wild 352 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: card in the first round, but then she played Vondrusova 353 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: in a second and then played Saballenka. I had a 354 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: couple of set points in that first set, so I 355 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: really had a shot of at winning at least a 356 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: set against the world number one. So I think she's 357 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 4: playing really well. And that was a good win against 358 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: Marta Costuk. She had lost to her in Madrid in 359 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: the altitude just earlier this year, so I think she 360 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 4: looks She too, looks in a really good spot right 361 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: now and has improved. She's back on the line. I 362 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 4: thought US Opened she won because she was so much 363 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 4: up on the baseline and taking the balls and her 364 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 4: returns so early, and then in the years between, you 365 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 4: could see her sometimes just being a bit too far 366 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 4: behind the baseline. And now she's right back on it, 367 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 4: and in Washington, and she likes to play in Washington. 368 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 4: We've seen her play well there in the time, and 369 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 4: what else. I'm looking forward to seeing Taylor Fritz play 370 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 4: today for the first time since his Wimbledon semi final. 371 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 4: Had a great run there. He had some of the 372 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 4: toughest first two rounds in Wimbledon, with Petchi Perica in 373 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: the first round and then Gabrielle Diallo in the second. 374 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 4: And yeah, Diallo is now playing bench Shelton. There will 375 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 4: be some huge bomb serving there, so I think Washing 376 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: for some reason, Yes it's early in the in the 377 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: hard court season, but for some reason, every time washingt 378 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 4: DC is on, I'm so looking forward. It really is 379 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: for me the kickoff for the hard court season on 380 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 4: the American soil. And I will say, I know I'm biased, 381 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 4: but I will say I kind of enjoy watching the 382 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: hard cut tennis again. I really got into the grass. 383 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 4: I loved Wimbledon. I thought the way Yannick played was amazing. 384 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 4: I'm still mesmerized by his performances and in the last 385 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: three rounds against Shelton, Djokovic and then against Carlos in 386 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 4: the final. But I was very glad when I called 387 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 4: my first match on hard courts again, and there was 388 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 4: a bit more, you know, strategy, a bit more building 389 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: and constructing of the point and so on and so forth. 390 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agreed. What will test the players this week 391 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: is obviously the heat here in DC. And have been 392 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: here many times and you've played, you know, right now, 393 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: the sun is really out and it is a hot day, 394 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 2: and interesting enough, Riley Opelker as we speak, is up 395 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: a set against Neil Medvedev, and I mean, Danil Medvedev 396 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: has a lot of questions to be answered. On the 397 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 2: hardcot is no question it's his best surface. But this 398 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 2: is kind of like a bit of a nightmare matchup 399 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 2: for him because you're playing against the guy. It's not 400 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: going to give you a lot of rhythm, which he loves. 401 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 2: So this will be a huge test for him. If 402 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 2: he gets out of this will give him a lot 403 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: of confidence. But if not, you've got to think that 404 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: someone like Riley or Polk is going to be tough 405 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: to beat on this court as well. And you know 406 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: Ben Shelton looked really good yesterday against Mackie McDonald. He 407 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 2: plays against as Diallo, who I just interviewed actually here 408 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 2: at the courts, and a what a nice kid he is, 409 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: So that'll be a really fun matchup. But like you said, 410 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: like this tournament, it gets great players that come and 411 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: play here. Mark Iron does an amazing job at this tournament. 412 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: It gets bigger and bigger of a year. I think 413 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: they're trying to build a new stadium at some point. 414 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: You know what's really funny about this tournament. Dan Evans, 415 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: which wanted a couple of years ago, he is into 416 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: He's into the third round. He plays against Mute who 417 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: beat Muller Oh and one if you want to and 418 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: he was up six oh four. Oh oh. Let me 419 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: tell you something. If you're a tennis fan, if you're 420 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: a tennis fan and you want to see some fire, 421 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: you want to see some interesting points, you want to 422 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 2: see some hilarity on the tennis court, you have to 423 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: come and watch Dan Evans playing route. So if you 424 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: live in the area of Washington, get your asses to 425 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: that match. It probably will not be on a major 426 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: court because there's so many big names here. But if 427 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: there is a match to go and watch, please go 428 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: and watch that match. I mean, Dan Evans loves playing 429 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: here in DC. It's nice to see him doing well 430 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: again here. 431 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he played against Novak Djokovic and Wimbledon, 432 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 4: he won his first round. He had a rough, rough, 433 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 4: rough go before the grass courts this year, but I 434 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 4: thought in the first set against Novak he already he 435 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 4: played well, he hit his slice really nicely, and now 436 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: he's kind of getting the groove again. He's won two 437 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 4: matches here, so that definitely will be an amazing match. 438 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if amazing in quality, but definitely amazing 439 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: to watch and entertain. And I will say I think 440 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: I think Ben Shelton might win Washington d C. 441 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: Wow, well that's a big call. I have to say. 442 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: I watched him play yesterday. He's serving as if. I mean, 443 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: he's serving so big here and it bounces up so high. 444 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: But you know, look, it's going to be a test Againstiello. 445 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: They're both going to be serving well. He's in the 446 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: section with Caboli and Francis Tiaffo. So if Tiafa wins tonight, 447 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: and obviously Tiafo has amazing support in Washington d C, 448 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: I would love. 449 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: To I would. 450 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: I would. 451 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 4: I would love to see Francis. I know that he 452 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 4: really wants to win this tournament and he's been close 453 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: a few times but never really got the got his 454 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 4: hands on the trophy, so I would love for Francis 455 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 4: to get it in his hometown. But for some reason, 456 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 4: I thought, you know, the condition everyone we had on 457 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 4: the Tennis channel to talk about Washington, everyone said, the 458 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 4: conditions are very lively. The ball is flying, you know, 459 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 4: particularly coming from this Lessenger ball to a bit of 460 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: a lighter tennis ball now with the hot weather. I 461 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 4: think you're right. I think today could be a stumble 462 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 4: for him with somebody that plays similar to him. But 463 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: if he gets through it, I can see him going 464 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 4: all the way. Ben Shelton, I'm talking about. 465 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: Well, so that you're predicting that he therefore will get 466 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: through Taylor Fritz. If Taylor wins through his matches, so 467 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: you think that's a matchup, did you see him winning? 468 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 4: I think so. I mean so the thing with Ben 469 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 4: is if he plays well, I think he can beat anybody. 470 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 4: The reason I say that, I think is that I 471 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 4: called his match with Janick Sinner in the quarters of Wimbledon, 472 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 4: and there were just margins separating the two. Ben was 473 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 4: playing so well, and when he came up on the scene, 474 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 4: I think we all saw the raw potential that he possesses. 475 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 4: But he was still kind of all over the place. 476 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 4: And I was thinking about this yesterday after he finished 477 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 4: the match. I think he's the player that has improved 478 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: the most in the last two years from completely. 479 00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: Raw to. 480 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 4: Like a professional, solid tennis player who I think soon 481 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 4: will have major accomplishments. I don't know why. I just 482 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 4: think the way he constructs the points and how he's 483 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: gotten better athletically, I really see incredible improvements with him. 484 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: I agree with you with a majority of that. The 485 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: only thing that I have still a little bit of 486 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 2: a question mark for is his backhand. Now, the forehand 487 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: is huge. It is such a weapon, so you know, 488 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: not even close to being it's so good, and he 489 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: can vary it so much with the kick, and his 490 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: kick service just out of this world. But his backhand 491 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: is questionable. So when you're playing someone like a Taylor, 492 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: Fritz Taylor is amazing at being able to exploit a weakness. 493 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: And because Taylor is so disciplined and his forehand cross 494 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 2: court is going to help, he's going to really hurt 495 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: against Ben. And Ben is still makes really poor decisions, 496 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: Like there were a couple of shots the other day 497 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: against Macki or yesterday against Mackie that he would just 498 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: rush a slice and try and run into the net 499 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 2: and just make you know, what we would call as 500 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: a coach, just not a good decision. And so I 501 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: still think there's decisions that he doesn't make that are great. 502 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: And against someone that is as disciplined and as good 503 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: as Taylor, I think that that's the problem. And Taylor 504 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: can get the serve to his backhand. I think Taylor 505 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: is one of the best returners. And also you think 506 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: about the height of Taylor, Fritz. When when Ben is 507 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 2: kicking the serve to a Mackie McDonald, it's a nightmare. 508 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: To Taylor, it's not such a nightmare. It's just hitting zone. 509 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: It's not so bad. So listen, I don't disagree with you. 510 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: He has the weapons. 511 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: Kind of convinced me. I think you're making some good 512 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 4: points with Taylor. Fritz. I think I'm swaying to Taylor. Now, okay, 513 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 4: I'm easily influenceable. I'm easily influenceable. No, I think Taylor. 514 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 4: I called both of his first two matches and Wimbledon 515 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 4: against Patchy Perry Khan Yallow and what he did there, 516 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: he was on the line returning and just chipping his return, 517 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 4: and I feel like if he can do something along 518 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: the lines Obviously hardcorets are different, saying a lefty is different. 519 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: But if he can do something along the lines of 520 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 4: a similar thing where he neutralizes the serve by chipping it, yeah, 521 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 4: I think you convinced me. But still maybe, like in 522 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: the back of my mind, Ben is like a dark 523 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: pause for some reason. 524 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, listen, Ben's a darkhos all the time because 525 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 2: his weapons are just so massive that anything can happen. 526 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: Cam Nori beat Mussetti yesterday in three yas was unbelievable. 527 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: I think he's actually going to be really hard to be. 528 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: He plays Nekashima, who played very well yesterday served He's 529 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: served very very well yesterday out of a lot of trouble. 530 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: I think Alex de Mino is going to be a 531 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: little sneaky as well. Court is very very good for him. 532 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: So listen, the men's is packed, Medvedev is packed. Medvedev 533 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: is still hanging on there in the second center against Riley, 534 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: will see. I mean, overall, if Medvedev plays his best, 535 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: this is the court that really suits him because he's 536 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: done very well here in DC in the past. But 537 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: he's he's struggled this year, There's no question. Lastly, I 538 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: just want to finish with the women. Pagoula this is 539 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 2: a perfect court for her, but she plays against Leila Fernandez, 540 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: which is not going to be easy. An interesting matchup 541 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: for me tonight is Sakari, Maria Sakari against Navarro. That's 542 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 2: going to be a real test for both of them 543 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: because neither of them because Maria Sakari got a wild 544 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: cud in here. She's made the finals here before where 545 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: she lost to Pagoula, and Emma Navarro is has not 546 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 2: had a good year but had a decent Wimbledon. So 547 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: it's kind of like a who's going to come out 548 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: with the confidence tonight? I think that will be a 549 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 2: big lesson for us on the women's side. 550 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely a huge Maybe maybe the ah well, Raducano 551 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 4: Costuke was also huge, but maybe the two best players 552 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: facing each other so soon, let's say, apart from cost 553 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 4: Juke and Radocano in the tournament, I'm excited to see 554 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 4: Jess and I'm very interested to see Jess Pagoula back 555 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 4: because that Wimbledon loss was I think very frustrating for her. 556 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 4: I think that was the biggest We talked about it 557 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 4: on air on German TV as well, and I know 558 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: you guys talked about it, but we all agreed that 559 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 4: that was the biggest surprise for us on the women's side, 560 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 4: that Jess had lost so early. And yes, Coccaretto played 561 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 4: maybe the match of her life. But it's going to 562 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 4: be interesting to see how she bounces back from from 563 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 4: a tough loss, whether she is going to take that 564 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 4: as a motivation and maybe she has worked harder and 565 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 4: comes back and really dominates this US Hardcore season because 566 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: she remember, she has a lot of points to defend 567 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 4: from last year she won Montreal or Toronto. It was 568 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 4: last year, and she played Cincinnati final and she played 569 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 4: the US Open finals, so it could be nice to 570 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 4: get some of those points off her back by playing 571 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 4: well in Washington. 572 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 2: D see absolutely. I think that the only thing is 573 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 2: Cocciarecto plays very similar to Pagula up on the baseline, 574 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 2: takes the ball early, does those like half volley almost 575 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: things on the baseline, which Jess does so well against people, 576 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 2: and usually Jess pushes you back. But what's interesting is 577 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: that Leila Fernandez is a very similar player as well. 578 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: She likes to stay up on the baseline, so it 579 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: will be absolutely a test for Jess because that lefty 580 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 2: serve will drag her off the court a little bit. 581 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: She doesn't have the best of reaches on return, so 582 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: I think if she gets through this match comfortably against 583 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: Leila Fernandez, that would be a good test for her. Clearly, 584 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: losing early at Wimbledon gave her a lot of time 585 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: to prepare on hardcore, which is sometimes a good thing. 586 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 2: You think about Foco GoF losing so early at Weldon 587 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 2: and then having the season of her life and then 588 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: going on to win the US Open. But look, for me, 589 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: it'll be a test against against Fernandez, and then she'll 590 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: play the winner of Kennon and Towns Taylor Townsend, so 591 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: it only gets harder. The court is fast, it suits her, 592 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: but there are so many great players between Rebarkina. Of course, 593 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: the story of Venus Williams Clara Towson against Dole high 594 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: today that two big servers and big hitters. So I'm 595 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: really looking forward to the top half of the drawer 596 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: is certainly a lot more aggressive big hitters. The bottom 597 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: half is not quite the big hitters, but some amazing 598 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: talent in this tournament, and I'm looking forward to the 599 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: rest of the week. It's been awesome having you back 600 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: in the pod. Let go, I missed you. 601 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 5: I missed you. 602 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: To see you soon. 603 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 4: Sorry I yawned at you, but I've been awake since 604 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 4: three am, so I'm ready to go back to sleep 605 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 4: at eleven am here in California. 606 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, my friend, I know you're doing matches later 607 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: on tonight, so good luck with that. That's all I 608 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: can say. 609 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm just I'm just looking forward for not having 610 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 4: to pronounce Venus Williams as a German again, you know, 611 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 4: today at least not until at least not today. 612 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: But I said, just type her name W and then 613 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: do it, do it the other way around, and you'll 614 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: know it. Yes, I love you, mate. It's been great 615 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: to have you on and seeing all of you guys 616 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: next week. 617 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 6: Juice, juice, good day, my friends. 618 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: Great to see you here. Thanks money. 619 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, all right? 620 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 3: Here he is here. 621 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: He is Gabriel Diallo. Everybody say hi. First of all, Gabriel, 622 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 2: what's it like being in DC? Have you played here before? 623 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: I should have looked that up before I started the conversation. 624 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 2: But have you played here before, and what are your 625 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: thoughts about being in DC? 626 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's my first time here in the in 627 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 7: the Great Capital. Funny, I ninkdove. My parents actually is 628 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 7: their favorite city. They came multiple times. My dad loves 629 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 7: the history of Washington. So yeah, no, first time, first 630 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 7: time playing here, and so far has been treating me 631 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 7: really well. Fans I guess they really like Canadians, so 632 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 7: it's good for me and yeah, looking forward to to 633 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 7: keep on going. 634 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so you won your first ATP title this year, 635 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: but before we get to that, you actually went to college, 636 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: and so why did you decide to go to college 637 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: because we had I've had this conversation. I had it 638 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: with Loner ten yesterday and he went straight into the pros. 639 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: Well he did one semester I think in college. But 640 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: why did you decide that college was important for you 641 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: to do? 642 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 643 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 7: I mean I think I was miles miles away from 644 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 7: being ready to be a professional tennis player, just from 645 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 7: a tennis standpoint and from a maturity standpoint. 646 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't a highly sought. 647 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 7: Out junior, so it was it was kind of a 648 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 7: no brainer for me and my family to go to college. 649 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 7: I'm I was fortunate enough to have an offer from Kentucky, 650 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 7: and yeah, to get you know, step by step. I 651 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 7: really I never thought that I was gonna do like, Okay, 652 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 7: I'm gonna do a year and a half and then 653 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 7: go off. In my mind, I was doing four years 654 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 7: getting my degree and then you know, I can try 655 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 7: for as long as I want. 656 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's treated me really well. 657 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 7: I think that I matured a lot, gain a lot 658 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 7: of match play, which is what we were looking for ultimately, 659 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 7: and and yeah, overall, at the best decision probably I've 660 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 7: ever made. 661 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 662 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: Great. 663 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: I often get asked by people, you know, what should 664 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: should I get my kid to go to college? 665 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: Or should I go pro? 666 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: And I'm always like, if you're not mature enough or 667 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: physically ready to go, en off, especially if with the guys, 668 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: I think it's really important. And college tennis is so 669 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: competitive if you look at all the ATP players that 670 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: have done really well in college and then gone on 671 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: to have great careers on the tour. So I think 672 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: that was a terrific decision for you. So let's get 673 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: to your first ATP title. What was that like for you? 674 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: The feeling you tell me. 675 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, it was I mean, as you can imagine, 676 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 7: it was very special for me, but you know, not 677 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 7: only for me, for my whole my family, and my coach, 678 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 7: my strength coach, my physio, my agent, everyone around me. 679 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: I think it was a nice thing. 680 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 7: Definitely didn't expect it to come that fast and definitely 681 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 7: not on the grass. 682 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I was super happy. 683 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 7: It's kind of felt surreal a little bit at the moment, 684 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 7: but I didn't have really time to process because I 685 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 7: had to play Queen's two days later. But after winby, 686 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 7: I really took the time to to appreciate and reflect 687 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 7: on on on what we. 688 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: Were able to achieve throughout the grass. 689 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 7: Season, and really happy for it and motivates me for 690 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 7: what's coming next. 691 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: Can you tell that to the people? 692 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: You win a title and then what happens immediately after that. 693 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: Well, champagne a little bit for sure. In the locker room. 694 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 3: That's good to hear. 695 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: Definitely popped a bottle and spread it all over my 696 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: coach and my strength coach. 697 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: I'm twenty three, he's old enough. 698 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: Even if I wasn't. It wasn't a europe It's eight 699 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: year old. 700 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: He's good. 701 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 7: He's good, all right, I'm good I'm good. My coach 702 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 7: wouldn't let me drink anyways, But I think that my 703 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 7: my coach and my strength coach did most of the 704 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 7: drinking because I had to play two days later. 705 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: But I think that. 706 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 7: I was after Queens, I had kind of a ten 707 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 7: day break before my next event, so we went to 708 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 7: a bar and we probably celebrated it. But yeah, you 709 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 7: don't have, like I said, don't have time to really 710 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 7: process because you know, you got to find a flight 711 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 7: to go to your next event, which is kind of 712 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 7: the reality of tennis, but makes it beautiful in a way. 713 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think people understand it. 714 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: You're win a title and then you you're literally all 715 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: you're thinking about that ten hours later is I gotta 716 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 2: play another match. 717 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 1: So it's not that easy. 718 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 3: It's really hard. So take me. Then you do go 719 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: to Wimbledon. 720 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: What an incredible match that was against Taylor Fritz if 721 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: you remember it was an incredible five set match that 722 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: you played against him. What did you learn from that? 723 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 2: And I mean interested to hear you. You just said 724 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 2: you didn't expect to win your first tile on grass. 725 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: Why is that with your type of game, with your 726 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: type of serve, why wouldn't you think grass was your 727 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 2: especially so a little bit about that and also about 728 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 2: the match against Taylor. 729 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 7: Well, you know, yeah, I knew that overall it would 730 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 7: definitely fit my my game style. 731 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: But I'm also aware. 732 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 7: That it's a it's a surface that requires such specificity 733 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,479 Speaker 7: that I wasn't exposed to in juniors, which I didn't 734 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 7: play on grass. 735 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 3: So you didn't grow grow up in Australia, I think, yeah. 736 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 7: We didn't grow up you know being involved on grass. 737 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 7: Were more of indoor hard but what we don't have 738 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 7: the weather seriously house grass anyways, it's gonna become eyes. 739 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 7: But yeah, I knew that for sure in the future 740 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 7: I could play well, but I thought it was gonna 741 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 7: it was gonna take me time to develop into that player. 742 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: But I mean we really I really. 743 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 7: Trusted into the process and uh, I think that's what 744 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 7: made it possible for me to play really well on 745 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 7: the surface. And uh yeah, to go back to sort 746 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 7: of match against Taylor, yeah it was. I mean, first 747 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 7: of all, it was just a very great full on 748 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 7: my part to to be able to compete on those stages, uh, 749 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 7: court one at Wimbledon, uh and then after the third 750 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 7: when they. 751 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: Closed the roof. It was it was pretty special. Felt 752 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: more like indoor harder than grass. 753 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 7: Actually, but no, it was. It was a great match. 754 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 7: Definitely a heartbreaker at the end. But you know, like 755 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 7: I said, you take the time to reflect and kind 756 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 7: of analyze, and you know, just like I said, be 757 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 7: grateful that you were in this position. And I learned 758 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 7: a lot from that match about myself, about my tennis, 759 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 7: specially playing against such. 760 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 3: A what what was that? 761 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: What did you learn? 762 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 7: I mean, first of all, learned that I have the 763 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 7: physical uh capability to last for five sets against the 764 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 7: best some of the best players in the world, and 765 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 7: the tennis wise again, to back my game in big moments, 766 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 7: try to come to it in there as much as 767 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 7: I can, and it's. 768 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: Still going to require a lot of effort and work 769 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: to get to there one day. But really looking forward. 770 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: To that, what do you think you need to do, 771 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 2: because obviously what Taylor did then after that getting to 772 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: the semi finals and playing such a great tournament, he 773 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: reached the finals of the US Open. Does it give 774 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: a play like you at twenty three? And I really 775 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 2: do think you'll probably get much better the older you 776 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: get because of all the skills that you have. What 777 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 2: did you learn from that process? And watching him therefore? 778 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: Does it give I mean, you tell me what you 779 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: learn from that. I don't on put boys in your mouth? 780 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 7: I think, yeah, just how the I mean the top guys. 781 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 7: I think what they do really well is they buy 782 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 7: themselves in an important moment down break break cooiner, when 783 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 7: they have a breakpoint, they buy themselves. 784 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: They play really aggressive with big margins. 785 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 7: But what I think is required to get to that 786 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 7: level is just your base level overall weekend and week 787 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 7: out has to be much higher than everybody else. On 788 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 7: a day where maybe they're not playing as good, they're 789 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,439 Speaker 7: still going to give themselves a chance to win the match, 790 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 7: which is what I think I need to do. Raise 791 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 7: my base level, my minimal level. 792 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's going to require still a lot of 793 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: that for a lot of work and looking forward to it. 794 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: Does it give you the impotence to actually also think that, 795 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 2: you know, with my game, with your weapons, that you 796 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 2: could go really even a grand slam of particularly a 797 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: slam that is a faster surface. 798 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, of course, you know you can get 799 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 7: really hotter for two weeks A goal or dream of 800 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 7: mine will be to reach maybe the second week of 801 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 7: any Slam realistically and make a deep run. It's going 802 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 7: to require, like I said, a lot of effort and 803 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 7: behind the scenes. But I do believe in myself. I 804 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 7: think my team believes in myself and me that I 805 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 7: can achieve that. 806 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: So let's see. 807 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 7: Hopefully I say out ten more years to play and 808 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 7: I can achieve that at least. 809 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 3: I mean, did you watch what happened last night? 810 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 811 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 3: Forty five. You're twenty three, bro, you got a lot 812 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 3: of decades left. 813 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: My friends, she didn't look forty five for me. She 814 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: looked more like twenty and twenty five. 815 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awesome to watch. Take me back a little bit. 816 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: You actually were coached by Felix as your Ali seems. 817 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 3: Father for a little while. What influence did he have 818 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 3: on your career? 819 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: And also just knowing that Felix has had the career 820 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: that he has as well, Like, do you guys still talk, 821 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 2: what's the relationship like there with his father with Felix? 822 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: And is it nice to have this like camaraderie with 823 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: the Canadian players and is it that. 824 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 3: Important to you? 825 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Of course, I mean, yeah, we grew up. 826 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 7: I mean since I can remember nine or ten, I 827 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 7: was already going to his dad's house to do training camps. 828 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 7: He was inviting a bunch of kids from Montreal to 829 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 7: go up to Quebec and practice, and then eventually at sixteen, 830 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 7: I moved there and trained there for three and a 831 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 7: half years until I went to college. 832 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: So I have an amazing relationship with Felix. 833 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 7: I was actually back to this wedding in September, which 834 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 7: unfortunately I don't know if I'll be able to attend, 835 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 7: but I hope I. 836 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 2: Well, catsay out of the bag. Felix is getting married 837 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 2: in September. 838 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: I hope I'm not spoiling it. 839 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 3: But yes, he's playing the old but it's after that. 840 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, no. 841 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 7: It was a huge, huge game changer for me, I think, 842 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 7: and it stored a lot of discipline. He was really demanding, 843 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 7: which is what I needed at the time, and just 844 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 7: having a high standard for yourself, which is something maybe 845 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 7: I liked before going into training with him and then 846 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 7: into college. Just that self discipline, always being able to 847 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 7: look yourself in the mirror and see what you could 848 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 7: have done better, what you did good, And that's something 849 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 7: that's now ingraining me. I believe and is going to 850 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 7: follow me for the rest of my career and for 851 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 7: the rest of my life. 852 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 2: So you know, yix thin I just won and is 853 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 2: dominating right now at grand slime level of course with 854 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 2: Carlos al Choraz. But you know, given his height, you're 855 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: a very tall guy as well. You're maybe a couple 856 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: an initial too taller than than Yannick. 857 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm six eight, I don't know. 858 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so he's like six probably four. 859 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 2: But you know, there's been a lot of success for 860 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 2: the last couple of years with tall guys, right, how 861 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 2: much do you think that seeing the John Disner's uh, 862 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 2: you know, players like that doing well through the years, 863 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 2: how much does that help you? And do you do 864 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 2: you look at the way that they play and start 865 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 2: to try and model yourself up to that, because it's 866 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: quite unique how tall you are. 867 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, growing up can In I probably the 868 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 7: best example I could have with Melos, that's true. Yeah, 869 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 7: and Lassk as well, who was more or less the 870 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 7: same hight. You know, there were great servers. They always 871 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 7: looked to take it to their opponent, looking for the 872 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 7: foreign looking to come forward. So growing up I had 873 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 7: the perfect I had the perfect example. Honestly, I didn't 874 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 7: have to go and look elsewhere. But I do believe 875 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 7: that maybe I can do some things differently as well. 876 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 7: I think Melos to Serve is something that probably will 877 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 7: never see again, so I have to find other ways 878 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 7: where I can be a little bit better. But yeah, 879 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 7: I definitely definitely modeled my game after the big guys event. 880 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 7: Essentially is what I'm trying to do. Come to the 881 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 7: net as much as I can and try not to 882 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 7: extend the rallies, and if I have to, I do 883 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 7: believe that I have the athleticism to maintain the rally 884 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 7: and play some defense. 885 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: If I have to. And yeah, but like I said, 886 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: growing up, I had the best example in Meal. 887 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: Well, you're too young to have seen me play, but 888 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 2: my friends Serve and Valley, you're a person of my heart, 889 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 2: my friend, so I get it. 890 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 3: I love it. 891 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: I love to say, especially with your life grouse feed 892 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 2: out there, it's nice to see. Speaking of big so 893 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 2: those big players. Ben Shelton, next opponent, Did you guys 894 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: play at college? 895 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: Uh? No, we never played in college. I mean we 896 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: played as. 897 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 7: School, but he played my teammate and I played one 898 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 7: of his teamen, but we. 899 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 3: Never actually were you higher than him? Were you one? 900 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 2: Or two? 901 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,919 Speaker 1: Were you no? He saw his first year I was hired, 902 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: but then his second year he was playing one and 903 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 1: I was playing too. No two. 904 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so give me your thoughts on playing 905 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 2: him and what you expect. 906 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 3: I know what to expect. 907 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: If you're sitting behind the court, make sure you either 908 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 2: have a helmet on, or you're a catch a smith, 909 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 2: or you're paying attention. So what do we expect from 910 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 2: that match? I, like. 911 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 7: You said, you can expect the firepower for sure, fireworks. 912 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a should be an 913 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 7: electric one, as that he's American playing here in America. 914 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: But like I said, as what you you trained for. 915 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 7: You trained to play for those those big matches, those 916 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 7: those big stage and surely going to be a lot 917 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 7: of fun and hopefully a lot of firepower. 918 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank every all on here to day 919 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 2: off coming here. I'm giving you a bit a live 920 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 2: Dary'll have gone Tomorr look. 921 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 3: Forward to the match. 922 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 2: Thanks buddy, Thanks very king on that great