Speaker 1: Look, Mayer, Oh, I see you. Look over there is
Speaker 1: that culture. Yes, goodness, lost cult.
Speaker 2: Dang dong last Culturesta's calling sorry about the quality of
Speaker 2: the audio.
Speaker 1: Okay, look things are. You don't have to apologize. First thing.
Speaker 1: This is what's happening. Matt is stopping into New York
Speaker 1: in between tour dates. He's not gonna bring the mic
Speaker 1: with him every time. I mean, I could have and
Speaker 1: should have because I'm not going to be back in
Speaker 1: LA for a while and I want to give y'all quality. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all I ever want is to give you, honey.
Speaker 1: We will make up the quality with the content. In
Speaker 1: the content. You're so right, and not that you have
Speaker 1: any problem doing that, or should I say, congress queen girl,
Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about that. Why well, what
Speaker 1: do you want to know? It's not that I want
Speaker 1: to know anything. I want to acknowledge.
Speaker 2: You think that the readers aren't tuning into this episode
Speaker 2: saying they want to hear all the bts.
Speaker 1: The BTS was that we're not gonna talk about by
Speaker 1: saying the full version of Candle in the Wind because
Speaker 1: Lorne wanted to see me do it Friday night. We
Speaker 1: didn't have a script page. We didn't, so you just
Speaker 1: sang candle in the window. So then like Janine DeVito
Speaker 1: are beautiful associate producers headed the script departments, like Bowen,
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, but I think you know you have
Speaker 1: to stick around until this was like eighteen hour a
Speaker 1: day on Friday, and this is my new thing. I'm
Speaker 1: not complaining anymore. I'm not saying the words I'm tired,
Speaker 1: and me Celest Sarah and Alison Gates at work are
Speaker 1: saying if one of us catches the other saying the
Speaker 1: words I'm tired, then that person has to pay everyone
Speaker 1: like five hundred dollars or something. What we needed, like
Speaker 1: we need a crazy like a swear jar. It's a
Speaker 1: swear jar thing, but where it's like because you know
Speaker 1: what saying I'm tired and I you know me, I'm
Speaker 1: the tired culture. I'm finally hitting this point now where
Speaker 1: I'm like saying those where its only reinforces that state,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really do anything. It's also contagious, just telling
Speaker 1: Charlie bar Day came to the show as a guest
Speaker 1: of the last and he was like, it's contagious, and
Speaker 1: it also like it is conversational filler. It only yes
Speaker 1: when you don't know what else to say. I think
Speaker 1: that is.
Speaker 2: Why I don't like when people are like, oh, I'm tired,
Speaker 2: is because I just feel like it is inherently not interesting.
Speaker 1: I wrote a whole sketch about this for Popularlette, I remember,
Speaker 1: but that was a kind of a self read. It
Speaker 1: was the Storytellers where study was oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. It was like a nature documentary about like
Speaker 1: this really fascinating. It was like an anthropological documentary. A
Speaker 1: fascinating storyteller shares in the tradition of ancient cultures, like
Speaker 1: sharing interesting parts of her day. And she's like, I'm tired. Wait,
Speaker 1: I remember this is the first ketch I ever got
Speaker 1: on populatte Wait. Yes, I remember that. It was a runner, right,
Speaker 1: it was a runner. It was a runner. It was yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it didn't come in as a runner, and
Speaker 1: we made it a runner. It worked perfectly, display it up.
Speaker 1: It was really good. Anyway, Janine calls me. She's like,
Speaker 1: and I think Lauren wanted to see me sing it
Speaker 1: like and try it out, and we didn't have pages,
Speaker 1: and so then it was like, I guess I'm singing
Speaker 1: all of Candle on the way. So you just said,
Speaker 1: so it seems to me live like a Candle in
Speaker 1: the Wow, what a great song. Beautiful, it's so rich
Speaker 1: Alton Halton for the pods, for the pod. But then
Speaker 1: it was mortifying because it was like one in the morning.
Speaker 1: It was Lauren was sitting right in front of me,
Speaker 1: all these crew members who just wanted to go home,
Speaker 1: and they were like, why the fuck are we listening
Speaker 1: to bow and singing Candle in the Wind? Did they
Speaker 1: applod after? No, they did it, of course not. I'm
Speaker 1: so mad at that. They had every reason to not applod.
Speaker 1: If you give all of candle, can I say, this
Speaker 1: is a real culture. If you give all of Candle
Speaker 1: in the Wind and no one the pods, I'm mad
Speaker 1: at you. That's really forty eight. If you give all
Speaker 1: of Candle in the Wind and no one on the pods,
Speaker 1: I'm mad at you. So I went in to Saturday.
Speaker 1: It's like not knowing what the hell was going on
Speaker 1: until like we ran through it like a couple hours before.
Speaker 1: So it was very I was very unprepared.
Speaker 2: I said, that was the tape. You can take the
Speaker 2: rest of the year, easy way, do you even no way?
Speaker 2: You're coming hard every week about no war? I'm kidding
Speaker 2: what you see are my head's at in the gutter?
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of the gutter, what the gutter between your toes? Oh?
Speaker 2: God, can I say I'm ready to tell everyone my truth.
Speaker 2: I think it's because I've been traveling a lot. I've
Speaker 2: been out on the road. I've been stopping the pavement
Speaker 2: trying to get this album promoted. That my athlete's foot
Speaker 2: is back. And I actually just showed Bowen in the person,
Speaker 2: in the flesh as it were, and he was really upset.
Speaker 1: And that's not that I'm upset any part of you.
Speaker 1: I I think it's so beautiful. That was really shocking
Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, it's got to get dealt with, and
Speaker 1: trust you will be dealt with. And this actually segues
Speaker 1: perfectly into something that I am very late on mm hm,
Speaker 1: But love has won. This HBO documentary on the Cult
Speaker 1: of Mother God is really upsetting. I still have to
Speaker 1: watch the third and final part. But this woman, basically
Speaker 1: this cult leader. This is a popular documentary. Are people
Speaker 1: talking about it? I think people are talking about you know,
Speaker 1: like people at work, we're talking about it. Just so
Speaker 1: they were like all the crew members were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're watching Mother God blah blah blah. It's called Love
Speaker 1: has Won. Love, So the cult is called Love has Won.
Speaker 1: Love has Won, which is so hm hmm. That's not
Speaker 1: a name for a cult. No.
Speaker 2: For me, it's like love has Won. If I found
Speaker 2: out there was an organization called Love Has One.
Speaker 1: He'd be like, I'm going to the gala. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would think, oh, that's a cult. No. If I
Speaker 1: say the words you love has One, you think, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess that's on a shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah's some
Speaker 1: sort of like tweet phrase. Yeah, yeah, exactly, which something
Speaker 1: can between and cult, which I think is what period,
Speaker 1: which I think is what this whole thing is. Basically,
Speaker 1: this woman, her name is Amy Carlson, is just normal
Speaker 1: gal working at McDonald's, managing McDonald's, being very successful manager
Speaker 1: at McDonald's. And then I guess she tried extasy one
Speaker 1: day and liked it so much that it broke her.
Speaker 1: And then she believed that she was the creator of
Speaker 1: the universe, and it starts this internet community that ends
Speaker 1: up coming to her and they all believe genuinely in
Speaker 1: their hearts that she is the next iteration of not
Speaker 1: only Jesus Christ, but of Marilyn Monroe and of Prince
Speaker 1: Diana Kendel and the wynd subjects. And then there's the Galactics,
Speaker 1: which is this like group of deceased people who speak
Speaker 1: through her, and those people include Whitney Houston, Robin Williams.
Speaker 1: Most saddeningly, like Robin Williams is like figures hugely into
Speaker 1: this really posthumously obviously, but like Robin Williams is like
Speaker 1: one of the prophets. It's the craziest. You need to watch.
Speaker 1: How many people are in this cult? And is it inactive?
Speaker 1: It's hard to say it people so there are so
Speaker 1: so they shot this in twenty twenty one, like a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I don't want to give away
Speaker 1: too much, but like the first moment in the documentary
Speaker 1: is really crazy and I will have nightmares about it
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. Seriously, Yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I don't want that to deter you from watching. To watch,
Speaker 1: it's not like horror, it's like something so disturbing, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, what is it? Okay, So I think a
Speaker 1: lot of spoiler I learned for the first moment of
Speaker 1: love love is one Mother God. I think I think
Speaker 1: a lot of It's so funny that it's mother God
Speaker 1: sounds like mother God. So I'm very behind on this.
Speaker 1: So the first moment is this town in southern Colorado
Speaker 1: called the Crestone, and it's the cops who have a
Speaker 1: warrant to search this house. And this guy greets them,
Speaker 1: and then the cops are like, how many people are here?
Speaker 1: And he goes, there are five beings and what there
Speaker 1: are five beings and a few other people and and
Speaker 1: then the cops are like anyone else. They're like, you're
Speaker 1: not telling Like it's like he's he's withholding something. And
Speaker 1: he goes, there is a mother and she she has rested.
Speaker 1: So at first you watch it, they're like, okay, so
Speaker 1: the mom might be in bed or something. So then
Speaker 1: they go search the department. It's filthy, disgusting. It has
Speaker 1: rainbows and flowers on the ceiling. The paint is disgusting.
Speaker 1: There's like it's been through like ten layers of paint.
Speaker 1: There are Christmas lights everywhere. It is so nauseatingly disgusting
Speaker 1: in there. Oh my God, like Lisa Frank but fucked up.
Speaker 1: And then they go into this bedroom and there are
Speaker 1: like I want to say, it's like a really adorned bed,
Speaker 1: flowers Christmas lights hanging on it, and there's like a
Speaker 1: body under like duvets, and then they lift up like
Speaker 1: a pillow and you just see a silver face with
Speaker 1: like makeup, eyes over the eyelids. What and it's Mother, God,
Speaker 1: mummified it's her, mummified her. She she's been dead for
Speaker 1: I think a couple months, and these people have decided
Speaker 1: to mummify her by like putting all this fucking glitter
Speaker 1: makeup on her face and like painting eyes on her
Speaker 1: eyelids and putting like a turban on her. It's You
Speaker 1: said at the beginning of this that this wasn't horror.
Speaker 1: What you just described is the most horror, horrifying horror
Speaker 1: I ever understand. There are five beings and one mother
Speaker 1: and she has rested rest You go in. You see
Speaker 1: a POV of them going into this Lisa Frank Hell.
Speaker 1: They go up to a bedroom, unveil a duvet. It's
Speaker 1: a mummified woman who's been dead for two months in
Speaker 1: makeup and that is a forget about Mother God, that's mother.
Speaker 1: Excamation point the movie that is horror like that film,
Speaker 1: which I still haven't seen. I do know Jef Lawrence,
Speaker 1: I've never seen Jennifer. I'm not I'm not watching Mother
Speaker 1: exclamation point. And I think people that listen to this
Speaker 1: podcast know that's your health for me. No, I'm not
Speaker 1: seeing anything like the Houses Like, I'm not gonna see
Speaker 1: anything that's gonna like upset me viscerally. Yeah. I say
Speaker 1: this as a great fan of literally everyone involved in
Speaker 1: that film, but I won't watch that one because it
Speaker 1: feels like what you just said. So then are you
Speaker 1: not going to watch this document? Well, I have to say,
Speaker 1: because it's actually this really disturbing every moment, honestly, because
Speaker 1: there's footage, because these people are obsessed with live streams.
Speaker 1: The thing, God, cult aesthetics are so can look like.
Speaker 1: A cult can look like anything. To paraphrase a Pat reaganism,
Speaker 1: he says, a family can look like anything all the time.
Speaker 1: A cult can look like anything. It's really culture number eight.
Speaker 1: A cult can look like anything. And so the cult
Speaker 1: aesthetic for them is everyone has a laptop, everyone's going live.
Speaker 1: It's like Starbucks. It's like Starbucks. Everyone's going live. Everyone
Speaker 1: is doing shrooms or tripping or ayahuasca or on meth
Speaker 1: like it makes me it's well, it just never, It
Speaker 1: makes me never want to do a drug ever again.
Speaker 1: It would that be the worst thing. It would not
Speaker 1: be the worst thing. It is so shocking when you realize,
Speaker 1: like how the human brain and the human spirit are
Speaker 1: so fragile and they be so easily tempted to believing anything,
Speaker 1: Like how this woman, who I'm sorry it looks completely
Speaker 1: average in a very okay way. She has an average woman,
Speaker 1: is whipping up all of these people into believing that
Speaker 1: she is Jesus Christ herself and that she is the
Speaker 1: most beautiful woman in the world. Yeah, well there are
Speaker 1: monsters among us. Well, of course, a monster can look
Speaker 1: like anything, because can look like literally anything. It looks
Speaker 1: like Amy Carlson. Bitch, Amy Carlson is making these people
Speaker 1: they cut to like all these notes and her part
Speaker 1: of her thing as a cult leader is make me
Speaker 1: a sandwich, make me a galactic taco salad is what
Speaker 1: one of the recipes is called. Make me crab legs.
Speaker 1: I want lobster. Now they're in Colorado. Bitch like she like,
Speaker 1: this woman is about food. She sounds like no hiking.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, That's that's me Like on a Sunday
Speaker 1: after a hard day of work. I want a lobster now,
Speaker 1: making me a sandwich.
Speaker 2: And Halen alright, p miss, Can I say I didn't
Speaker 2: even know Halen Hardy gone.
Speaker 1: Until it was too late. I mean there obviously is
Speaker 1: like an organized crime thing. Wait what it, Matt? It
Speaker 1: disappeared with no notice, So you think it was an
Speaker 1: organized thing. You think Hallen Hardy was the mob. I
Speaker 1: think there was something going on there. We need the
Speaker 1: Hale and Hardy documentary now. Halen Hardy for people who
Speaker 1: don't know, as it used to be a soup chain
Speaker 1: in New York that everyone loved, right Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I was there all the time. We could get a
Speaker 1: half soup. Well, I guess it was a cup soup
Speaker 1: half Sandwichera could never literally Panera could never. And they
Speaker 1: had unbelievable chili. They had so many soup op shops.
Speaker 1: Someone should step up and sort of do a Hale
Speaker 1: and Hardy esque thing. There's a huge hole in the
Speaker 1: market major, especially for my soup queens, which I'm the leader. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you are. I'm more soup. There are two
Speaker 1: different things.
Speaker 2: We really don't have time to talk about the differences
Speaker 2: between stew and soup. Right now, we might this that's
Speaker 2: gonna be a quick hour. I would say that stew
Speaker 2: there's more consistency there because it's probably based in a
Speaker 2: protein or a starch, whereas the soup is based in
Speaker 2: the liquid.
Speaker 1: To liquid and in a stew you would maybe put
Speaker 1: in it would maybe have a rue base, not a
Speaker 1: rue base that you would start, you would start. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you develop the flavors in a very specific way. And soup,
Speaker 1: the beauty of soup is you can kind of just
Speaker 1: it can be anything. A soup can be anything not
Speaker 1: accept stew. Oh yeah, A soup cannot be stew. A
Speaker 1: soup cannot be Rachel Ray tried to make stoop happen,
Speaker 1: which is a did she actually? Which is something that
Speaker 1: lives between a soup, a soup, and a stew. Hubris
Speaker 1: no part of it. Can we talk about Rachel Ray? Sure? Can?
Speaker 1: She's still doing it. She's still doing the thing, and
Speaker 1: I actually have to admire her. And you know, my
Speaker 1: ass didn't give two shits about Giata or Bobby or
Speaker 1: even I'm gonna say Aina. I was tuning in the
Speaker 1: Food Network growing up for Rachel. It makes me I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Amy Carlson right now on my computer and
Speaker 1: is that her? That's her? And actually part of her
Speaker 1: narrative is that she's pretty stunned. She looks like Maggie Rodgers.
Speaker 1: She not looks like Maggie Rodgers. She looks like Maggie
Speaker 1: Rodgers before Divinity School. That's her. When she died. That's
Speaker 1: her when she died. So that's Father God. So she
Speaker 1: had so she had multiple partners, all named Father God.
Speaker 1: But they were like the Prince Phillips to her. Someone
Speaker 1: says they were like the Prince Phillips to her, Queen Elizabeth,
Speaker 1: they were just so can I ask your question? In
Speaker 1: this documentary, in the opening moments, you see this woman's
Speaker 1: dead body. You see her. Her body is covered up.
Speaker 1: But what's the most chilling is that it killing. Before
Speaker 1: it cuts to the title card, it's just you. It's
Speaker 1: just slow, slowed down, shaky police cam footage set to
Speaker 1: scoring a metallic face staring back at you, staring at
Speaker 1: the camera, but the eyes are actually painted on. I've
Speaker 1: never seen anything like that, and in every bit of footage.
Speaker 1: So because of the live streams, they have so much
Speaker 1: footage of these people just like being on every drug, cackling, screaming,
Speaker 1: singing stupid songs, acting a damn fool. But it's like,
Speaker 1: I guess this is what I'm like when I'm stoned
Speaker 1: with friends. I mean, yeah, but like I think these
Speaker 1: people clearly were just like must have been just like warped.
Speaker 1: They were warped. But like, but look at her. I
Speaker 1: mean if someone looked that looked like Maggie Rodgers came
Speaker 1: to me and was like, get me a sandwich, not
Speaker 1: for nothing.
Speaker 2: I think I would drop most everything I was doing
Speaker 2: to get her a sandwich.
Speaker 1: Girl, she's look at her kind face too, that's not
Speaker 1: it's not a kind face. That But this is when
Speaker 1: when we say a cult clok like anything, a cult
Speaker 1: leader clok like anything, it could look like a fucking
Speaker 1: fifth grade teacher. This woman, well, Joel Joel Kim Booster
Speaker 1: was telling us about the Twin Flames documentary and how
Speaker 1: those hey, you guys have been going off with yours. Well,
Speaker 1: I had documentaries, Joel has not started as one. I
Speaker 1: have not started the Twin Flames documentary. I don't know
Speaker 1: that I the subculture that you guys belong to, well,
Speaker 1: there's a million HBO documentary that The Twin flamesland is
Speaker 1: on Prime. But so he was saying about them, like
Speaker 1: they are the most uncharismatic cult leaders. And I want
Speaker 1: to say, like, I guess it's such a fine line
Speaker 1: between charisma and uniqueness, nerve and talent. Absolutely, and like
Speaker 1: I don't think that many cult leaders. I can't name
Speaker 1: that many cult leaders that are like yeah, I would
Speaker 1: follow them, you know what I mean, Like even fucking
Speaker 1: like the Nexium guy. I'm like Keith Ranieriam like no fuck,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, no way. That's the thing is, it's like
Speaker 1: they're all fucking weeds. Yeah, she probably has trauma. Well,
Speaker 1: the mom and the sister, like, I honestly think they
Speaker 1: were doing their best because the mom and the sister
Speaker 1: were like, she was never mother God to us, she
Speaker 1: was just amen. She was never mothered God to us.
Speaker 1: And then whatever. I don't want to spoil much, but
Speaker 1: she just hurt her life in her adulthood, I guess
Speaker 1: was defined by like these really toxic relationships with men,
Speaker 1: and that carries over into her relationships with the multiple
Speaker 1: father gods. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So when I walked in here today, this was on
Speaker 2: there was twelve minutes off to the episode. I said, no,
Speaker 2: go ahead, finish, and Bowen said, I don't want to finish,
Speaker 2: And yet here you are giving it sort of a
Speaker 2: ringing endorsement on here I just had I can't was.
Speaker 1: That the wait, no, no, no, oh my god, is
Speaker 1: that it? No? No, no, no, that's not it. That's
Speaker 1: oh my god. That's her in like a mask. Okay,
Speaker 1: so everyone there's a photo of her on Google Images
Speaker 1: with like a sheet mask on, and I thought that
Speaker 1: was we're not looking at her anymore. It's actually too much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're really. I can tell this has really shaken you. Well,
Speaker 1: the reason I'm watching it is because it is presented
Speaker 1: in a very watchable format, which is three part documentary
Speaker 1: series fifty five minute episodes each. Yeah, I can that. Well.
Speaker 2: That was my problem with the vow was I was like, why, well,
Speaker 2: it was a lot. It was like twelve episode first season,
Speaker 2: and they were gonna like, we're doing a season two.
Speaker 1: I'm like to say, what, I know, Well, it's the
Speaker 1: second things was like the aftermath of like the conviction
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, I guess, but it's just like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if we need more of this. It's this
Speaker 1: is an interesting one. This is a new flavor of
Speaker 1: cult documentary that I think is important to consider. It's
Speaker 1: just deep. I'm very disturbed and it makes me sad
Speaker 1: to think about. I mean, cults are about self surrender,
Speaker 1: Like there are all these pieces about how like you
Speaker 1: can't feel too bad for anyone who joins a cult
Speaker 1: because there's a level of self surrender to it. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I guess they would call it faith, which
Speaker 1: is really scary. But I think that about everything. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's in the It's good that we're
Speaker 1: talking about it. It's it's out there.
Speaker 3: It's it's don't worry, it's not real housewives.
Speaker 2: Our media diets could not be more different. Right now,
Speaker 2: do you know what I saw the other day? The
Speaker 2: Renaissance World Tour film tell me everything. First of all,
Speaker 2: this is a fifteen out of ten, like you're going
Speaker 2: to have the best time. It's different than the Eras
Speaker 2: tour because if this is an actual like it's more
Speaker 2: of a documentary like stuff.
Speaker 1: Yes, so two things, three things stuck out to me.
Speaker 1: One just to talk about the actual concert itself. If
Speaker 1: you've seen the Renaissance World Tour concert, you know how
Speaker 1: unbelievabullet is as a spectacle, but when you really see
Speaker 1: just the minutia of the set, the lighting, the sound,
Speaker 1: Like I took my band that I've been on the
Speaker 1: road with the Gay Strangers comes see Matt Rodgers and
Speaker 1: the Gay Strangers live on tour, and they were like,
Speaker 1: musically so blown away. They were like, it's all bas
Speaker 1: it's so crazy, Like the music is just cranking. She
Speaker 1: is calling every single shot you see her in like this, yes,
Speaker 1: oh yes.
Speaker 2: So that was the first thing I noticed was when
Speaker 2: you're not watching it as part of the audience and
Speaker 2: you can actually see like a well shot, like you know,
Speaker 2: following it as if you're right there with her. She
Speaker 2: is such an unbelievable performer in the midst of all that,
Speaker 2: et cetera. We all knew that. That's obviously the first thing.
Speaker 2: It's just just how incredible that show is too. The
Speaker 2: thing that is so clear is how hard she still
Speaker 2: has to fight, really so that people don't gaslight her
Speaker 2: into thinking that her vision is not achievable. Wow, Like
Speaker 2: her exhaustion level in preparing for this is so high. Yes,
Speaker 2: because it's so difficult to prepare for that. She had
Speaker 2: a knee surgery before the Renaissance store, Like it was
Speaker 2: a full surgery. It wasn't just an injury she had
Speaker 2: to get like operated on. She was rehearsing while she
Speaker 2: was in recovery for it. Like there's footage of her,
Speaker 2: you know, doing pet and whole training at the same time.
Speaker 2: Like this is just like truly an unblo believable, like
Speaker 2: insurmountable really thing for anyone else. But she did it
Speaker 2: all while dealing with people, even Beyonce. And she says,
Speaker 2: because I'm a black woman, I still have to fight
Speaker 2: every single person to execute my vision in the way
Speaker 2: that I know. They don't talk to other people like this.
Speaker 2: And there's an amazing scene where she's asking for like
Speaker 2: a certain type of rig and they're saying it's not possible,
Speaker 2: it doesn't exist, and she's like, okay, well I looked
Speaker 2: it up while you guys were talking, and it does exist,
Speaker 2: and here it is, and here's how you're gonna get
Speaker 2: it here. So that was number two is really just
Speaker 2: how tenacious she is and anyone else would just be like,
Speaker 2: you know what, fine, let's just do the easy thing,
Speaker 2: but she never does that. Three the highlight of the
Speaker 2: whole doc to me was now, well, the Uncle Johnny
Speaker 2: stuff was amazing, and I'm really happy that was like
Speaker 2: an extended part of it because they really Tina gets
Speaker 2: like a whole action where they're interviewing her about Uncle Johnny,
Speaker 2: and you know, Tina's just a legend. She really gets
Speaker 2: her flowers in the documentary. Like there's a part where
Speaker 2: Beyonce's being interviewed in Tina's next to her the whole time,
Speaker 2: and Beyonce just says, you know, the only reason why
Speaker 2: I'm here unable to do all this is you.
Speaker 1: You're the only reason. And they hug and it's just
Speaker 1: so beautiful. But speaking of her family, my favorite part
Speaker 1: of the whole Renaissance world to our film was Blue Ivy.
Speaker 1: Like there's a sequence where Beyonce says, Blue Ivy came
Speaker 1: to me and said she's ready to perform, and I
Speaker 1: said no, because she's not ready, Like she hasn't gone
Speaker 1: through nearly enough to be ready to go out in
Speaker 1: front of all those people and do this, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And she was like, you can do one show. And
Speaker 1: then I guess it's really the first time I've seen
Speaker 1: Blue Ivy like talk and exist but she's cool as
Speaker 1: fuck and like, you know, seems to have it together,
Speaker 1: and she's got opinions about the things that her mom
Speaker 1: is doing, and like her mom wants to cut a
Speaker 1: song from the show. I think it's I forget exactly
Speaker 1: what song it is, but it's one of the older ones.
Speaker 1: It's Diva Diva. Beyonce is like, I kind of want
Speaker 1: to cut Diva or make it way shorter, and Blue
Speaker 1: Ivy's in the corner like doing her homework, and she
Speaker 1: turns around and she's like, no, you cannot cut Diva.
Speaker 1: You can't do it. She's like, Blue, stop and she's like, no,
Speaker 1: you can't cut those songs.
Speaker 2: You cannot cut those songs. I think she was trying
Speaker 2: to say, like what you can't cut the classics, Like
Speaker 2: you just can't. And then Beyonce turns to Blue and says,
Speaker 2: I appreciate your opinion, but you need to calm down
Speaker 2: and you can't be cutting people off. And it's intercut
Speaker 2: with Beyonce doing all of Diva. That's which I love.
Speaker 1: I love it. And so then to speak more about
Speaker 1: Blue Ivy, Blue gets on the Internet and sees troll
Speaker 1: mean comments about her dancing and in the beginning, she
Speaker 1: wasn't at the level she was at at the end,
Speaker 1: and so they just show her working really really hard
Speaker 1: to get it right and like really taking it seriously.
Speaker 1: And Beyonce was like, this is not only a renaissance
Speaker 1: for me and everyone here, but it was truly a
Speaker 1: renaissance for Blue Ivy because she learned what happens when
Speaker 1: she applies herself and what she's capable of. And then
Speaker 1: they show Blue doing the number with Beyonce, like, and
Speaker 1: what I loved about the movie too, is and this
Speaker 1: set it apart from eras, like they filmed so many
Speaker 1: of the concerts so that they were able to cut
Speaker 1: I know, the cuts were insane and bowen, the garments,
Speaker 1: the outfits, the stunning, the costumes, the robot arms into
Speaker 1: cozy like people have been like putting down on their
Speaker 1: stories and my jaws on the floor, Like there is
Speaker 1: never a moment you're not gasping at what she and
Speaker 1: the whole cast, the dancers, the band, what everyone, even
Speaker 1: the crew, And she goes on to talk about how
Speaker 1: she wants to dress the crew specifically because she wants
Speaker 1: the cruise movement to actually be part of the show
Speaker 1: because the mechanism of it. She wants as much of
Speaker 1: a light shone on that. So that's why the crew
Speaker 1: were in those like metallic outfits, because when a crew
Speaker 1: member comes out, that's for her the world of the show,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: Like they show this sequence of Blue and Beyonce dancing together,
Speaker 2: and you see it at the end just how hard
Speaker 2: Blue Ivy was slaying it, and you just feel at
Speaker 2: the end of that sequence of the movie like it
Speaker 2: was really well done and like snaps to Beyonce for
Speaker 2: that the whole thing, but especially this because the pride
Speaker 2: that Beyonce as her mother feels at the end, you
Speaker 2: feel as the audience for her because of the way
Speaker 2: that it's been edited totally, lots of great cameos. Megan
Speaker 2: the Stallions in it, Kendrick is in it.
Speaker 1: There's a really funny moment during the mute challenge where
Speaker 1: in the middle of it they cut to Cardi b
Speaker 1: and the audience being on mute, and it's a test
Speaker 1: for the audience because you don't know Cardi is coming,
Speaker 1: and then when you see her you just want to
Speaker 1: laugh and scream so much so fine someone in my
Speaker 1: theater did laugh and we all turned to her rooms,
Speaker 1: like that's a trap? That is?
Speaker 2: It was so good anyway, best time watching it, Like
Speaker 2: obviously seeing the tour I thought twice was brilliant. But
Speaker 2: I think this could be a really fun idea for
Speaker 2: Christmas Day.
Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking, because are you gonna be here for Christmas? Okay,
Speaker 1: so a bunch of us are going to be here
Speaker 1: in New York City for Christmas. I want to maybe
Speaker 1: this will need to me joining a cult to the behive.
Speaker 1: I'm already in the behind, but do a little period,
Speaker 1: do a little mushroom and then go to the Renaissance
Speaker 1: tour film on Christmas in New York City. That could be.
Speaker 1: That would be absolutely because I'm definitely seeing this again.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you the fact that Thick was not
Speaker 1: in every show. I didn't get to see Thick live,
Speaker 1: Thick and all up in your Mind in the Renaissance
Speaker 1: film highlights. Really Sick is a contender for me to
Speaker 1: be number one song on the album Really Yes, I
Speaker 1: mean it's excellent, so good All your Mind made the cut.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. The whole thing is in there.
Speaker 2: The only thing that I remember she definitely cut was
Speaker 2: a few of the numbers from the beginning, which she's
Speaker 2: like doing her own opening with the ballads. Ye you
Speaker 2: get dangerously in love into flaws and all, and then.
Speaker 1: She disappears into the stage and the renaissance begins. But
Speaker 1: they cut the rest of it, So they cut I
Speaker 1: care they cut one plus one and you do see
Speaker 1: a little bit of the Tina Turner tribute that's later
Speaker 1: in the movie. That's yeah, brilliant, brilliant, of course. I
Speaker 1: mean that is she is the paragon the student of performance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like Beyonce is the student of performance. Gaga is
Speaker 1: the student of like, let's just say art, and like
Speaker 1: theater theater. I think Ariyana is a student of vocals.
Speaker 1: Bean is a student of coolness. Taylor is a student
Speaker 1: of songwriting. And that is a very hard thing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to like occupy. I think all the girlies have like
Speaker 1: their their niche. It's not even a niche, it's like
Speaker 1: their superpower. Yeah, you know, like their stats are like
Speaker 1: distributed different. It's the only real way to describe Beyonce
Speaker 1: on stage is as superwoman. Yes, it's I mean I
Speaker 1: complimented Taylor on her actual like acting performance in the
Speaker 1: Eras Tour film. Beyonce is such an unbelievably focused, focused,
Speaker 1: committed like she's just in it the whole time in
Speaker 1: the sense of fun and play, especially after you see
Speaker 1: how seriously and how difficult.
Speaker 2: How seriously she takes it in how difficult it was
Speaker 2: to achieve that, to see her having fun doing this
Speaker 2: and to see it all paying off in the moment
Speaker 2: to the point where she can be so like improvisational
Speaker 2: free because she knows it so well. And she talks
Speaker 2: about that too.
Speaker 1: She talks about how as a performer she is a
Speaker 1: storied perfectionist. But the reason why she's that way is
Speaker 1: so that when the performance happens, there can be that
Speaker 1: sense of fun because it's in your body and it
Speaker 1: is almost not robotic in like a derogatory or pejorative sense, like,
Speaker 1: but it's already there, and so you can survive and
Speaker 1: live and thrive in what is happening in the moment.
Speaker 1: It's on the largest scale. It's the whole idea of
Speaker 1: like knowing the rules to break them or yeah, she
Speaker 1: is our best performer, especially in those moments when at
Speaker 1: the show, I mean everyone was noticing like that she
Speaker 1: just knows where every yep shot and frame is down
Speaker 1: to like looking up at the like to serve it
Speaker 1: up to a drone. Is I don't know how to
Speaker 1: do that? No, I don't know how any if, if
Speaker 1: anyone besides Beyonce knows how to do that so effortlessly.
Speaker 2: I mean, and also like we were there at the
Speaker 2: show she was finding those cameras. I mean like that
Speaker 2: was one of the things I clocked at the London show,
Speaker 2: which was in the documentary. Yes, oh wow, yes it
Speaker 2: was because she was wearing the London There were two
Speaker 2: outfits that they show Break My Soul from London definitely,
Speaker 2: and they show the movie Girl Girl. In many ways,
Speaker 2: I was on the shoar very that, but but there
Speaker 2: was I was. That was one of the things I
Speaker 2: was blown away with when I was there. Was I
Speaker 2: was like, there's like this one moment where like a
Speaker 2: camera flies over her head on like it's like a
Speaker 2: suspended camera and she looks up at it and makes
Speaker 2: eye contact with it, and I'm like, with everything that
Speaker 2: is going on, how do you pinpoint the exact three
Speaker 2: D spatial coordinates of something that's like up in the air.
Speaker 1: No, do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that is hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to find that one eye line one hundred
Speaker 1: thou inc. And that's just a commitment to the just
Speaker 1: pinpoint accuracy of every decision. It's just a flawless piece
Speaker 1: of art. Almost feels too small. It's like it is
Speaker 1: just such a feat of culture. That's really what it is.
Speaker 1: It is a moment in culture.
Speaker 2: And to even say that on this podcast where we
Speaker 2: talk about that, yeah, this is just like this. Actually,
Speaker 2: the Renaissance World Tour is actually winning an award right now?
Speaker 1: Are you serious?
Speaker 2: We're actually really thrilled to announce that the Renaissance World
Speaker 2: Tour is winning the Pinnacle Award. There will only be
Speaker 2: there will only be three given out in our lifetime,
Speaker 2: and today we have awarded the Pinnacle Award to Beyonce
Speaker 2: for the Renaissance World Tour.
Speaker 1: There are only two more allowed.
Speaker 2: It's like the horre Crukses, the Deathitely Hallows How. It's
Speaker 2: like the Deathly Hallows hun It's like the hor Crutches were.
Speaker 1: Do you think there might be a special moment at
Speaker 1: next year's Cultural Awards in honor to honor Renaissance World
Speaker 1: Tours Pinnacle Award.
Speaker 2: I think the Pinnacle Award is being given to the
Speaker 2: Renaissance World Tour, and there will be.
Speaker 1: A moment in the show. I'm very excited about that,
Speaker 1: which is not yet planned or confirmed. Speaking of moments,
Speaker 1: I actually thought about this and I did not consult
Speaker 1: with you. What I think we should announce something on
Speaker 1: this episode? What is it? I think we should announce
Speaker 1: that because you're doing it and you're still not running
Speaker 1: it by me. Well, what is it? Oh? Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. No, we don't, don't cut around it. This
Speaker 1: is they want to see the BTS. They love the friendship. Yes, okay.
Speaker 1: So if now for any reader's kidies publicist finalists who
Speaker 1: have tapped out because they said, I don't want to
Speaker 1: listen to this bad sound quality episode, this is what
Speaker 1: they're missing. You missed out on something major. So for
Speaker 1: all of you who are sticking with us in this episode,
Speaker 1: thank you, and this is your reward. As we're approaching
Speaker 1: our four hundred episode, we can now announce that the
Speaker 1: four hundred episode special will be called Iconic four hundred,
Speaker 1: the four hundred people of Culture. These are the top
Speaker 1: four hundred most iconic people I would say, living or
Speaker 1: dead or yet to be born in the culture, Realistic
Speaker 1: or fictional and that was my surprise to you. Now,
Speaker 1: can we announce number four hundred? No, we can't. We can't,
Speaker 1: but just to say this, we know who number four
Speaker 1: hundred is and it's and it will start the list
Speaker 1: off in a way that will make you say, I'm
Speaker 1: going to keep guessing. Oh, that is the perfect description.
Speaker 1: No one saw that one hundred is. I think this
Speaker 1: person deserves the spot one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: This person is a legend, beacon, a legend, a vibe.
Speaker 2: This person is vibe style.
Speaker 1: Everything you said you said, I said a gender, Well
Speaker 1: that's okay, okay, but this person is a vibe, multidisciplinary legend,
Speaker 1: a talent, a huge talent, no matter in what context.
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's very hard. It's so hard to be
Speaker 1: kg about this. But needless to say, we are very excited.
Speaker 1: I know exactly the moment where we came up with this.
Speaker 1: When was that we were in London on our way
Speaker 1: to the airport to go to Berlin. Yes, I felt
Speaker 1: it in my and I've been thinking about an iconic
Speaker 1: four hundred. I'm so excited for this, and we hope
Speaker 1: you are too. And it's coming up. Yeah, it's probably
Speaker 1: like in a few months. It might be I'm gonna
Speaker 1: venture to say bless you, thank you so much, queen
Speaker 1: for a part episode. I think it might even be
Speaker 1: more part special. Okay, we're gonna have to fly through it.
Speaker 2: If it's for because that per episode, Yeah, that would
Speaker 2: mean even if we spent one minute on every single person,
Speaker 2: and that would be in an hour.
Speaker 1: And okay, it might be five. It might be the
Speaker 1: whole week. It might be a whole week of lost Culture.
Speaker 1: It might be a Monday through Friday, so Joway, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 1: Each day of the week you get an episode. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. And the way that people were like, they're
Speaker 1: gonna flop soon. So why people were like they're going
Speaker 1: into their flop era. They have seen their best days. Like,
Speaker 1: there's no way the podcast can be better. It's not iconic.
Speaker 1: There are flops. Everyone was saying flops. But this is
Speaker 1: a more substantial, important, prestigious list than Time one hundred, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'll forget it, forty forty Forbes Forbes. This is the
Speaker 1: list of people animals. Now it's a real curble bitch.
Speaker 1: I kind of four D includes animals, whoa beings, anything
Speaker 1: with the spirit is eligible to be on the list.
Speaker 1: Can I say, who's not on the list? Mother God
Speaker 1: Amy Carlson is not on the list, And she she
Speaker 1: would say, if she were still alive, she'd say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: all these other people who are on the list are
Speaker 1: actually me. You can't this is what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: cannot reason with people like her. But it's what's crazy
Speaker 1: is that she gets multiple a big group of people
Speaker 1: who agree with her and say, yes, you are communicating
Speaker 1: through Robert Williams. Yes, you are like the next Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1: It's it's so unbelievable what drugs can due to your brain.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm being such I'm being so dare right now.
Speaker 1: I'm being so dare pilled. I'm like, drugs are bad.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't even know if it's drugs. I have
Speaker 1: to say, because can I ask you a question? Serious question?
Speaker 2: And sorry to even bring him up, but if Donald
Speaker 2: Trump said I spoke to Robin Williams last night in
Speaker 2: my dream and he told me that this is true,
Speaker 2: there would be a lot of his followers that would
Speaker 2: be like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Of course no, it is like lost people. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it makes me sad that this is the human condition.
Speaker 1: It makes me really said that this is the human condition.
Speaker 1: And it also like I just want to reach out.
Speaker 1: Can I say, if you're in a cult, reach out
Speaker 1: and touch somebody. Now you sound a little cult dish, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I would have a cool cult. You would have
Speaker 1: a cool cult. What would it be called? Amazing cult?
Speaker 2: Having a cult with the word cult in the name
Speaker 2: was the countiest thing of all cut County culty.
Speaker 1: County culty cult. It should be called amazing cult counter culture.
Speaker 1: Now amazing cults may go with your first instinct.
Speaker 2: All right, Well it's called amazing cult. So by the
Speaker 2: time this airs will have performed my song Rockefellersena on
Speaker 2: the Today Show with Hoda and Jenna looking on.
Speaker 1: We hope it went good. We hope it went good.
Speaker 1: If it went terribly, we're so sorry. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: think it will go terribly, though. I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: kind of eat and slay. It does not get more
Speaker 1: full circle than this. You wrote a song Bitch about
Speaker 1: Rockefeller Senna and about the people who work there, and
Speaker 1: then you end up working there and we ended up
Speaker 1: performing it there in front of people who are name
Speaker 1: checked in the song. Literally you did that. You know,
Speaker 1: there's rumors that I might have to fly around Rockefeller
Speaker 1: Center and get content with other people mentioned in the
Speaker 1: song so that they can sit together music video. But yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't know who is going to
Speaker 1: be in it, Honey. We're gonna find out, honey. It is.
Speaker 1: It is a living building. So watch that on YouTube.
Speaker 2: They'll have posted it, honey, if you didn't see it
Speaker 2: yesterday live on the Today Show.
Speaker 1: Hoda and Jenna talked to us after.
Speaker 2: I think, oh, we're going to have an interview and
Speaker 2: have an interview if they don't know you're coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they might have the surprise ruin for them because
Speaker 1: we have to rehearse this and they're gonna put it
Speaker 1: on the monitors, and I think Hoda and Jenna have
Speaker 1: the monitors. I think they're going to be seeing the monitors.
Speaker 1: I wanted to quickly touch on a couple other things
Speaker 1: before we guess. I don't think so, honey, because we
Speaker 1: have not yet wrapped up the Morning Show. We've had
Speaker 1: so many other present matters. I guess I just want to,
Speaker 1: I guess apologize because I was incorrectly informed that something
Speaker 1: happens in the finale of the Morning Show. That was
Speaker 1: the craziest thing that's ever happened on the show, And
Speaker 1: I would say.
Speaker 2: That, like, in totality, I think the craziest thing that's
Speaker 2: ever happened on the show is Bradley Jackson being at
Speaker 2: the insurrection getting found out by the FBI and going
Speaker 2: to prison. That's probably, in totality, the craziest thing has
Speaker 2: ever happened. But nothing in the finale was like singular
Speaker 2: insanity in the way that I think I set it
Speaker 2: up and was assuming it would be. And I want
Speaker 2: to apologize for that, because you certainly the ninth episode
Speaker 2: was better than the tenth episode.
Speaker 1: Certainly, but I don't think you have anything to apologize for.
Speaker 1: You set it up that way based on what someone
Speaker 1: else had told you. Yeah, and I think that that
Speaker 1: person articulated to me.
Speaker 2: The season wraps up in the craziest way a season has,
Speaker 2: which I think is debatable actually, but.
Speaker 1: Then I guess season of any television show. That show.
Speaker 1: I think the season two finale was bonkers.
Speaker 2: It was for sure bonkers. I think Bradley at the
Speaker 2: Insurrection just those wow can you how can you top that?
Speaker 2: I mean, we're gonna find out. I wonder because that's
Speaker 2: one of the craziest moments in American history. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: so like it. It's stranger than fiction. You cannot make
Speaker 2: up something crazier than that. Maybe close second is Bradley
Speaker 2: Jackson going to space?
Speaker 1: I think so here's my question, Bradley in prison? Are
Speaker 1: her roots growing in red? Are her roots growing in red? Wait?
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I was under the impression that her
Speaker 1: natural hair color was blonde and that she dyed her
Speaker 1: hair red for what she dyed her hair red for
Speaker 1: her Adirondack Conservative Channel. Yeah, she was getting just off
Speaker 1: the shelf color anyway, what.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's what they would say. Well, first of all,
Speaker 2: if we're to look at Riese's actual roots, she's a
Speaker 2: brunette queen of course.
Speaker 1: I mean love Reese is one of those actors who
Speaker 1: can look good at any hair, any hair. Her and
Speaker 1: hem stone face for wigs, face for wigs, good for them.
Speaker 1: Not everyone has that anyway, Yeah, I mean Morning Show.
Speaker 1: I think it sort of ended up with a whimper.
Speaker 1: Every episode was a bang yep, and so it's still
Speaker 1: my favorite show. Can't wait for season four? Are we
Speaker 1: going to see Bradley on trial? Are we going to
Speaker 1: see her in Are we gonna see her broken out
Speaker 1: of jail? I mean what? Certainly now they've made it
Speaker 1: really easy to shoot Jennifer and Rae separately. Certainly there
Speaker 1: was a scene in the finale that the friends I
Speaker 1: was with were like, oh, they're not together in the
Speaker 1: same room, and I was like, are you serious? Which
Speaker 1: one it was? When Alex goes over to Bradley's apartment.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: It's very possible, And it's crazy because their acting is
Speaker 2: so like good in that moment, They're like, I wonder
Speaker 2: if they're together.
Speaker 1: To think about them doing that with a stand in
Speaker 1: blew me Away? I mean, these are these after for good.
Speaker 2: They're so good. Speaking of good acting, we talked about
Speaker 2: it last week. I can't believe how big and how
Speaker 2: large May December is looming in the culture.
Speaker 1: It is a hit. I mean, if something ends up
Speaker 1: on Netflix, it's getting seen. I have to.
Speaker 2: Say Charles Melton won the Gotham for Supporting Performance. For him,
Speaker 2: I believe he is a contender for the win absolutely.
Speaker 1: And now I'm pretty I'm pretty feeling pretty good about
Speaker 1: Natalie and Juliet too. It has to feel to share
Speaker 1: a trophy with him. I guess we do share a
Speaker 1: trophy with him, the award. Wow, I believe the same trophy,
Speaker 1: different categories, different ears, but the same material of trophy,
Speaker 1: troph which is a heavy trophy that one. Where's yours?
Speaker 1: You display awards? I don't, I don't. I don't. I
Speaker 1: have the Culture ICA's Culture Award on my office shelf.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: that person. And nothing wrong with that person. I just
Speaker 1: don't think that. Can I say I'm gonna be that?
Speaker 2: Yes, if I ever, if I ever win awards, they'll
Speaker 2: be They'll be somewhere in the house, absolutely more for
Speaker 2: me than anyone else.
Speaker 1: More to be like, hey, look you did it, girl.
Speaker 1: I have not had that. I don't have people over.
Speaker 1: And so I'm saying it's like if I display something,
Speaker 1: it's probably not for other people. Period. Well that's not
Speaker 1: really true if you're We're in Bowen's sort of iconic
Speaker 1: apartment and I have to say, my one just went
Speaker 1: to the bathroom for a minute and I tried every chair.
Speaker 2: These are unbelievable. The dining room chairs are unbelievable. He's
Speaker 2: got several different couches that are so comfortable. Look at
Speaker 2: that piece under your television.
Speaker 1: It's so long. Oh that's the son of soundbar. Oh
Speaker 1: you what, No, no, no, I'm talking about the console.
Speaker 2: But the console anyway. I'm just such a fan of
Speaker 2: everything you've done here with the place, Queen.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Queen. Alvin Wayne worked with Alvin Wayne. I
Speaker 1: want a true deer. I wanted to say, where do
Speaker 1: you sit on Kyle versus Sutton? Can I reveal that
Speaker 1: I am behind on Beverly Hills. I hear it's really
Speaker 1: picking up. Beverly Hills is great. There there are proxy
Speaker 1: wars happening, is what I hear. But Kyle versus Sun,
Speaker 1: I think Sutton. I mean, we talked about Sutton on
Speaker 1: the last episode. I am concerned. I don't know if
Speaker 1: she's turning around for herself on the show. But I
Speaker 1: also not you know, I'm not like standing Kyle. I
Speaker 1: never really have. I don't really maybe I don't really
Speaker 1: care about this fight. Okay, So basically Kyle being the
Speaker 1: protagonist of the real housewise of Beverly Hills. I think
Speaker 1: that if you're a fan from Go, which I am,
Speaker 1: you kind of have to care because it's like Kyle
Speaker 1: and Mowe. So it's like they're Kyle mounting is So
Speaker 1: basically the thing is like Sutton is being very like,
Speaker 1: what's going on, what's going on? What's going on?
Speaker 2: And Kyle's like, you're not being sensitive because Kyle ha
Speaker 2: stopped drinking and started working out a lot, and she's
Speaker 2: you know, things are going on. She's now got this
Speaker 2: very close friendship quote unquote with Morgan Wade, this country
Speaker 2: singer who's got a lot of tattoos. Kyle's getting a
Speaker 2: lot of tattoos without telling her husband or anyone. She's
Speaker 2: just kind of really doing her own thing. And Sutton
Speaker 2: is like, what's going on in your life? What's going
Speaker 2: on in your life? Like being very invasive. And I
Speaker 2: think Kyle's problem is like, you know, you don't have
Speaker 2: a light to stand out to treat me like this,
Speaker 2: You're not being a friend, You're not being sensitive, like
Speaker 2: if something's going on, like, let me just handle my
Speaker 2: shit the way that I am and trust that I'll
Speaker 2: tell you in time.
Speaker 1: So can I just say the discourse about Kyle and Sutton.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'll say about Sutton High High's lo
Speaker 1: lows totally Hi High Lolo's on this show, and it's
Speaker 1: hard to cape for a housewife like that in general
Speaker 1: on any face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kyle, I would say high Hi's lolos too,
Speaker 2: But here's Sun's.
Speaker 1: Southern girl prone to dramatics. Yeah, in a fun way
Speaker 1: that works for reality TV, but it just in terms
Speaker 1: of like signing with her, I think, well, she could
Speaker 1: never be like the lead of the show, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Sudden is like this like orbital that comes in and
Speaker 2: out and you're just like it's like an agent of
Speaker 2: chaos almost where you're like, I don't really understand this
Speaker 2: woman's reality and so I don't ever know what she's
Speaker 2: going to give. Whereas Kyle has been the star of
Speaker 2: the show for thirteen years and she is so audience
Speaker 2: stand in like that you really feel connected to her
Speaker 2: in that way. I would say that one thing that
Speaker 2: hasn't been featuring into the show that much, which I
Speaker 2: think people should consider when they come on a side
Speaker 2: of Sutton or Kyle with this whole thing is Kyle
Speaker 2: and trigger warning, her best friend took her own life,
Speaker 2: like right before the season started, And I think, like,
Speaker 2: if someone wants to stop drinking or start working out,
Speaker 2: or make changes or like their relationship changes because of
Speaker 2: something they've went through, like jumping to call it a
Speaker 2: midlife crisis feels weird to me. Like, and I don't
Speaker 2: like the way the women on the show are talking
Speaker 2: about Kyle's not drinking like it sucks for them. If
Speaker 2: if someone not drinking is a problem for you, that
Speaker 2: is a problem for you. That is a serious problem
Speaker 2: for you. And I haven't loved the way Garcella's talked
Speaker 2: about it something for sure, all of them, and like
Speaker 2: even Deurt who's like doing her best to do her
Speaker 2: job as a housewife. It's just like, I feel like
Speaker 2: what's being lost in this show is that Kyle suffered
Speaker 2: an immense personal tragedy and if you don't understand what
Speaker 2: she's going through, like probably the best way to handle
Speaker 2: it is not to put her under a short cooker
Speaker 2: like this. But that's my thoughts on Beverly Hills. I
Speaker 2: haven't even watched Potomac.
Speaker 1: Did not watch last night. I couldn't care. I read
Speaker 1: I skimmed through the Vulture recap. Recapper for Potomac is
Speaker 1: doing excellent work. But I don't envy her job because
Speaker 1: I think she has a lot of She's just watching
Speaker 1: a lot of bummer footage. Yeah, it seems like this
Speaker 1: whole necka Wendy thing is still going on, and it's
Speaker 1: really tough. I feel like it's gonna go on for
Speaker 1: a while. Salt Lake, God, thank goodness, what a blessing.
Speaker 1: It's a blessing. And Miami also a blessing. I would say, I.
Speaker 2: Would say all those shows are blessings. I have an
Speaker 2: opportunity to be on a podcast coming up called The
Speaker 2: Brav Bros. It's two straight men who talk about bro
Speaker 2: they are so they're really good, and they're really good there.
Speaker 1: I could listen to them talk about this all day.
Speaker 2: So I'm going on their show. And they offered one
Speaker 2: spot to talk about Potomac and Southern Charm and another
Speaker 2: to talk about Miami, Beverly Hills and Salt Lake, and
Speaker 2: I was like, it has to be the latter because
Speaker 2: I will not talk about for tom now.
Speaker 1: I'm not getting into it. It's evil, evil, evil, evil, ugly, ugly.
Speaker 2: I wanted to say I saw the color purple. I'm
Speaker 2: going to withhold my review until it's closer. Okay, lots
Speaker 2: of great things, a couple things to discuss, Okay, but
Speaker 2: let's just say no one has anything to worry about
Speaker 2: about these goddamn performances.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 2: The performances are shining bright. I would give it a
Speaker 2: big old see it when it comes out on Christmas,
Speaker 2: and we'll talk more about it as it comes. But
Speaker 2: I did see it.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that I have seen it
Speaker 1: since I said I was going to see it last time.
Speaker 2: I've seen it much to say, this is a moment
Speaker 2: in color purple. If I get the sense of what
Speaker 2: the vibe in the screening I saw was, this will be.
Speaker 1: A moment in culture. I can't wait. And I guess
Speaker 1: that's really it. I guess other than that, it's time
Speaker 1: to do I don't think so, honey, unless you have
Speaker 1: any cultural addendums. Well, I was maybe thinking about doing
Speaker 1: this right and think someone, but I think let's just
Speaker 1: I just want to say this now, speaking of the
Speaker 1: morning show, Oh this is my I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Oh the great is it? Juliana? And then mine is
Speaker 1: much less of the bummer? Okay? Cool? Yeah? Great? And
Speaker 1: then I'll start with you. Yeah, we'll start with me.
Speaker 1: This is I don't think, so, honey.
Speaker 2: One minute to rant against something in culture and look
Speaker 2: it's just fucking too much.
Speaker 1: At this point, I gotta here you go. This is
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers. I don't think how many a time starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Honey, Juliana are released. You should
Speaker 1: have kept your mouth shut on that podcast, because now
Speaker 1: we hear you saying with your full chest you're I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but those were racist things that you were saying. That
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. The way that she was referring to, the
Speaker 1: way she said the black disgusting. These people that want
Speaker 1: us to call them they them, It's like, fuck you say,
Speaker 1: you say you respect people so much less without even
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not even without even saying you said it.
Speaker 1: Also to drop this imagery of people getting their fucking
Speaker 1: heads cut off and like kicked around like a soccer ball.
Speaker 1: Can I just say, if Susan Sarandon.
Speaker 2: Is being dropped by her agency for what she said,
Speaker 2: where is the movement on this with Juliana Argolis? And
Speaker 2: you know what, here's why, because she's probably making the
Speaker 2: agency a lot of money and that's bullshit, and like,
Speaker 2: this is a much bigger topic. But if we're going
Speaker 2: to do something about Sarandon, do something about this.
Speaker 1: I don't think about everybody who is suffering some professional
Speaker 1: consequence for being propus. I'm sorry, but you know what,
Speaker 1: especially in a world where you can filter what someone
Speaker 1: actually said through something and then report on it. This
Speaker 1: was on a podcast. You heard her say it with
Speaker 1: her full chest, And where is the movement? Where are
Speaker 1: the consequences? I'm not seeing them. I am not seeing them.
Speaker 1: It's so so. I mean the disturbing thing, like the
Speaker 1: disturbing addendum to it all is like her saying that
Speaker 1: I'm more offended as a lesbian than I am as
Speaker 1: a Jew. You are such a moron, like she doesn't.
Speaker 1: This woman's grasp on reality is like not there. My
Speaker 1: view on it is just that, like I'm processing images
Speaker 1: and news in a way that I'm trying to detach
Speaker 1: as much as possible from social media. I'm obviously learning,
Speaker 1: I'm being very informed by it, as we all are.
Speaker 1: But I think if you're at all able to have
Speaker 1: conversations offline, I think that is, on its face, there's
Speaker 1: a higher floor there, I think than what can be
Speaker 1: done on social media. And I think what's driving people
Speaker 1: to say really wild things like maybe what Juliana Margley
Speaker 1: is saying on podcasts is I think her feet is
Speaker 1: probably completely infected by bullshit like what she repeated on
Speaker 1: that podcast. I think you're probably right shocking. I mean,
Speaker 1: they them. Her language was shockingly disgusting. She fucking sucks
Speaker 1: and that's what she believes. That's what she believes in
Speaker 1: that apology. I don't buy for one second.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, but this bad faith conflation with wanting
Speaker 2: human rights for people in Palestine and in Gaza with
Speaker 2: anti semitism has got to stop.
Speaker 1: Also, I don't think somebody holler a reporter for still
Speaker 1: confusing me and Joel can Booster in an article about
Speaker 1: this whole Juliana Markley's thing. An article, How funny is that?
Speaker 1: How ironic is that? It made me so upset?
Speaker 2: It's an article reporting on racism, and then you do
Speaker 2: the racist bullshit of Saturday.
Speaker 1: The second time, give like, this is your job, these trades,
Speaker 1: this is your fucking job. But to get this shit right,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not going to talk about that show,
Speaker 1: and then like when one of the stars says something
Speaker 1: like that, just be like we'll skip around it. That
Speaker 1: would be I would make me really feel uncomfortable. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 2: Something Girleena magoo, I have something, Bowen has something. This
Speaker 2: is Bowen Yang's I don't think's funny this time starts now.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to put my poor thing screener onto
Speaker 1: my Apple TV. Why I need to be able to
Speaker 1: watch this on a larger screen than my computer? Issues girl,
Speaker 1: And all week I'm going into work wanting to compliment
Speaker 1: Emma on what might win hert another Oscar period and
Speaker 1: her team was kind of to send everybody at work
Speaker 1: a link, and I was We were all so excited.
Speaker 1: We were like, oh my god, I would love Maybe
Speaker 1: I'll have people over and we can watch. We can
Speaker 1: want thirty seconds. It couldn't happen. All I could do
Speaker 1: was chrometast it. I'm sorry. I only have certain Google
Speaker 1: things in my house. I don't want to do a
Speaker 1: little chrome cast dongle on my television. Fifteen. I can't
Speaker 1: believe that this is getting in the way of my
Speaker 1: viewing experience. I'm not going to watch the latest your
Speaker 1: Ghosts on a small screen period. Okay, this is cinema
Speaker 1: of the highest order. Five. I need to experience it
Speaker 1: as such. And if I can't do it in a
Speaker 1: theater with other cinophiles and other movie lovers. Then I
Speaker 1: want to do it in the comfort on my own hall,
Speaker 1: but not from the comfort of a hot computer on
Speaker 1: my chest. That is one minute, and I think that's
Speaker 1: just a sign that you're going to have to experience
Speaker 1: Yugoslanthemos's Poor Things in theaters I'm starring. I don't mind
Speaker 1: more and more I'm just saying and willing to foe.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget and romy yusif I'm just saying, I
Speaker 1: was so invigorated by the promise of being able to
Speaker 1: watch Poor Things from my own couch. I couldn't do that,
Speaker 1: and it was a huge disappointment the fact that the
Speaker 1: screener technology still is not there. It's so stupid. Stop
Speaker 1: sending DVDs. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Is like, if you're in SAG or WGA, you know this,
Speaker 2: But if you're someone listening at home, can you actually
Speaker 2: believe they still send physical copies of all these things
Speaker 2: and no one has a DVD player to watch them.
Speaker 2: I guess it's for the older membership members. But even so,
Speaker 2: like the older members know how to use a computer.
Speaker 1: Period also, do their computers have dis drives anymore.
Speaker 2: That's another thing is this was like, first of all,
Speaker 2: even if you are an older member of the Academy
Speaker 2: or of some guild and you are traditionalists and you
Speaker 2: like to use the DVD, it's like, Okay, the times
Speaker 2: are changing, Yeah, they're changing. Now it's a link you
Speaker 2: can click instead of physical DVD.
Speaker 1: It makes it way easier. Anyway, girl, I just feel
Speaker 1: like I'm being fucking blue balled here with good movies.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to see it. I cannot wait. I
Speaker 1: saw the first like I mean, I pressed play because
Speaker 1: I had to on my computer. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: I all, just like see the first couple of moments
Speaker 1: of this, and of course I'm drawn in. Everyone I
Speaker 1: talked to I said, it's the performance of the year.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm like fifteen minutes ago by it, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't. I had to stop myself, and I'm really
Speaker 1: proud of myself to be like, no, I'm watching this
Speaker 1: on a big screen. But the first moments of the film,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is going on? Oh my god? What
Speaker 1: is that? What There's a little goosehead on a fucking
Speaker 1: dog body. Oh my god. Like I was Joe and
Speaker 1: Yang was just acting. He went somewhere, listen to my voice,
Speaker 1: this queen, I need my instrument. Christmas is like a
Speaker 1: high wire act for all of us, but especially for
Speaker 1: Matt obviously, but all of us are here being like
Speaker 1: our kay needs to sing. The album has crossed two
Speaker 1: million streams. Thank you club, two million club. My one song,
Speaker 1: I Don't Need It to be Christmas at All is
Speaker 1: right now at one point five million streams. It has
Speaker 1: been the sleeper hit. This is the power of the
Speaker 1: Spotify playlist.
Speaker 2: Please come to the show, everybody. We're having such a
Speaker 2: fun time with the show. The band is a sleigh
Speaker 2: in the hand.
Speaker 1: The gay strangers. Give it up to the gay strangers.
Speaker 1: Talk about in Boston, this person in a Wrinch costume.
Speaker 1: Someone was in a Grinch costume.
Speaker 2: You brought them on stage and I so, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna reveal how I start the number, but let's just
Speaker 2: say I wasn't even there. A special guest came out
Speaker 2: to sing how to Swim Inhoville, and she saw that
Speaker 2: someone in the audience was dressed as the Grinch.
Speaker 1: Christine Baransky, No, it wasn't her. It was to Christine
Speaker 1: Bbransky played in the movie. She actually showed up. It's
Speaker 1: like a Santa Fe. For a second, I thought you
Speaker 1: were gonna say that a grown up CINDI lu who
Speaker 1: And I thought fucking Taylor Momson, Taylor, Miss Taylor Momson.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, let's just say I leave the stage
Speaker 2: and then someone else comes back out. Okay, I see,
Speaker 2: I just sing who Will? And there was someone dressed
Speaker 2: as a Grinch and I pointed to him. I mean
Speaker 2: she pointed to him and said get up here. And
Speaker 2: there was a strip tease moment. It was hot, sexy
Speaker 2: and more and more.
Speaker 1: And the shows have been really fun and I love
Speaker 1: doing it with the band. It's just great. He's crowds. Look,
Speaker 1: the crowds have been amazing.
Speaker 2: I signed vinyls after the show, So if you come,
Speaker 2: you can buy a vinyl and some other merchant I'll
Speaker 2: sign it for you. We can hang out for a
Speaker 2: sec and you can go to www. Dot Matt rodgersofficial
Speaker 2: dot com for tickets and tour info and more.
Speaker 1: Girl is it official? Now? Have you beat the SEO
Speaker 1: and argue you the first Matt Rodgers that comes up.
Speaker 1: I actually that's happened for quite a bit of time.
Speaker 1: I knew it. I don't think we ever celebrated that.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's fine, and we all love and
Speaker 1: respect to the other. Matt Rodgers is of the internet.
Speaker 1: You are all legends who have been all legends. But
Speaker 1: for now I'm really toasting it to my girl, who
Speaker 1: deserves her Google flowers. We just got a text from
Speaker 1: Mamas who Connect, which is our text chain with Joekin Booster,
Speaker 1: and he said, Karen's tagline is up. There is one
Speaker 1: of the most nonsense taglines in history. Most of these
Speaker 1: women are despicable. It's impossible to enjoy now. With the
Speaker 1: exception of Karen, Candace and Wendy. We love you guys,
Speaker 1: but everyone else is Actually I thought to tell its
Speaker 1: evil as an evil person. I just told him. We
Speaker 1: just read this on the podcast Live Love It. We
Speaker 1: love that.
Speaker 2: Joel has to come back soon. Joel's time for your return.
Speaker 2: They're clamoring.
Speaker 1: They're thinking, we're Bethan on the raddit.
Speaker 2: Why because he hasn't been on a tenth time. So
Speaker 2: they're like, they're beething, you are ridiculous.
Speaker 1: What do you mean, We don't know you never look
Speaker 1: at the raddit. We love you love y'all, Love y'all,
Speaker 1: be yourselves. We end every episode with the song It
Speaker 1: seems to me you live your life like Candon no Wind,
Speaker 1: never knowing who to claim to Hell no what of
Speaker 1: its have known you. I was just the.
Speaker 2: Kid you candle burned out before.
Speaker 1: Legend who who oo boo boo boo Yeah Bashi m
Speaker 1: hm