1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: No. 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: If you're your host Michael Bumpis, that's Paul Moyer. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: What's up? 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: You're listening to Hawk Slide, Presented by the Dynastic after 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 3: Bellevue Collection. 9 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: The show starts every Thursday. 10 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 3: At second Ryhann Seattle Sports seven to ten, broadcasting live 11 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: from Belgie Squats Center Court. I'm Michael Bumpus with my 12 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: guy Paul. 13 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: Lawyer aka Paul Boy. 14 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 4: Yea. 15 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 5: How you feeling, man, Well, I'm feeling better. 16 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 6: You know, Sunday was rough last week, and you know, 17 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 6: sometimes you get your butts kicked and you gotta admit 18 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 6: it and move on. And you know, I think we're 19 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 6: all trying to analyze, you know, what are we right 20 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 6: now as a team. Well, here's what I know. We're 21 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 6: five and three. We're in first place in the NFC West. 22 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 6: We got a very winnable game this week, which it 23 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 6: would still be tough. This is not a This is 24 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 6: actually a pretty good football team Washington not a great team, 25 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 6: but they're good in just about every thing they do. 26 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 6: And last week we ran into a bus saw you know, 27 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 6: you look at Baltimore. Baltimore scored over thirty points three 28 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 6: games in a row, beat Detroit like worse than us, 29 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 6: and so we knew it was going to be a 30 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 6: tough matchup. 31 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 5: And I just didn't think we matched up well or 32 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 5: we didn't. 33 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 6: Respond to their physicality after going into that second quarter, 34 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 6: and I guess my final comment is we just got 35 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 6: to play better. It is one of those offensive performances 36 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 6: where you go, what was it? 37 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, Gino's got to play better. 38 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 6: Offensive line, got to play better, wide receivers, got to 39 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 6: do a better job getting open the OC, got to 40 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 6: do a better job of creating things. And it wasn't 41 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 6: one thing, it was just a culmination of it. And 42 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 6: you say, okay, we got to move on. 43 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: You know what, I feel like. 44 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: I feel like you just responded the way every fan 45 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: wants to because all I did was ask you, how 46 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: are you doing? And then you went in say hey, 47 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: I'm this how I'm feeling, This is where we messed up, 48 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: this what. 49 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: We gotta do, and this Sylvie get past that. 50 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: So uh yeah, I appreciate the candid response because I 51 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: feel like most fans feel like the way that you 52 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: just articulated in this moment. 53 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 6: Okay, well, how am I doing. I'm doing great, Thank 54 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 6: you for asking. My son just flew in with his family, 55 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 6: my new granddaughter who's what three four weeks old? 56 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 5: So life is good. I got no complaints. 57 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 6: Okay, but I'm also paid to analyze what just happened 58 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 6: with the Seahawks. 59 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 7: Now. 60 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 6: I feel you, you know, I have a little nervous energy, 61 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 6: but I'm also going like, we're five and three, We're 62 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 6: in first place, we control our own destiny. We got 63 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 6: two games coming up that we ought to get right. 64 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 6: We got to play well, and you know, get a 65 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 6: chance to kind of figure out what we are in 66 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 6: the next two weeks. 67 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: No, and I think that's important that you point that out. 68 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: Good teams are gonna get beat now. Thirty seven to three, 69 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: one of the worst losses in Pete Carroll's history as 70 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: a head coach of this football team. I've been telling 71 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: people all week, I go, look, this is the worst, 72 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: one of the worst losses in his uh in his 73 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: career over here. We should not expect another one this year. 74 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: It'll be fine. The Ravens are some things that complicated 75 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: things for the offense and me, I'm looking at the 76 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: offense because I'm an offensive guy, go what could they 77 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 3: have done better? I think protections could have been better. 78 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: I think the routes could have could have been better. 79 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: Decisions by Geno could have been better. But you know what, 80 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: sometimes it'd be like that when you look at the defense, 81 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: what do you see? 82 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 6: I think the biggest issue we had last week. Let 83 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 6: me go through their first sixth series. First two series, 84 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 6: we make them punt, play and play well. Then they 85 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 6: have a long drive, and there were some third down 86 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 6: situations we had a chance on just didn't quite make 87 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 6: the place. And there was times we actually had the 88 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 6: perfect call, we were in perfect position, and Lamar Jackson 89 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 6: is really good and he's actually was faster than Jordan 90 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 6: Brooks on one playing, got around the edge and you 91 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 6: know those things. Those things happened. So the first six drives, 92 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 6: I'm looking defensively, we caused two two punts, two fumbles 93 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 6: or two turnovers we caused and we gave up two touchdowns. 94 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 6: It's fourteen points in those six drives. You can live 95 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 6: with that versus a really good team, right, we didn't 96 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 6: answer it, obviously, offensively. But what was the biggest issue 97 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 6: to me awareness. You know, in third down situations, you 98 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 6: know you don't want to be jumping a one. 99 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 5: Yard route on third and thirteen. 100 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 6: We did a couple of those things that we had 101 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 6: scratchers and we just tackled poorly. We did, you know, 102 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 6: a lot of shoulder tackling, and that's what created some 103 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 6: of those long runs. I don't think we actually played 104 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 6: that bad, and I know statistically it looks horrible. You 105 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 6: give up almost three hundred yards rushing, five hundred yards 106 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 6: total offense. They had a sixty yard run, a forty 107 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 6: yard run, and I could decipher those pretty quickly on 108 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 6: that So never as good or as bad. 109 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 5: I know you guys hate just hearing that, but it's 110 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 5: so true. 111 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 6: And I'm not going to say five plays completely changed 112 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 6: that game, but those plays made it the score that 113 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 6: it was rather than in a closer game. 114 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: Here's what happened as well. 115 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: Gino goes thirteen to twenty eight for one to fifty 116 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 3: seven and one interception. The interception, I want to say 117 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 3: everyone was involved in that right. Because Geno checks into 118 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: a play, Lockett doesn't get the play. 119 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: He throws the football to where he's supposed to be. 120 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: Geno Stone, the league leader when it comes to interceptions, 121 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: he does this thing. So I look at this offense 122 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: and I go, it was hard to get things going. 123 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: And when you look at an offense only who wants 124 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: to rush the ball and they only do it fifteen 125 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: times for fifty or twenty eight yards, you know that 126 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: something is off. And I've talked to people all week. 127 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: They're like, b you gotta run the ball. You gotta 128 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: run the ball. I go, yeah, run the ball is good. 129 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: When you're down seven to zero, it's all right. When 130 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: you're down fourteen to zero, down twenty three to three, 131 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: you need to score quickly. And I think that's what 132 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 3: the Ravens defense did. They force this offense to play 133 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 3: a game that they didn't necessarily want to play. 134 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 6: All right, So I'm gonna flip it on you. 135 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 5: So what was it though? 136 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 6: I was there one thing last week offensively because it 137 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 6: was not a good performance. You know, we won for 138 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 6: twelve and third down. You know we got behind. 139 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: You know. 140 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: That. 141 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 6: To me, the turning point of the game is it's 142 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 6: fourteen to three. We cause a turnover. At worst, you're 143 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 6: thinking it's fourteen to six. Right, Maybe we get to 144 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 6: fourteen to ten and we turned the ball over the 145 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 6: very next play and we fall behind seventeen to three. 146 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 5: But what did you see do? And lets you start 147 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 5: with the receivers. 148 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: Start with receivers. Okay, well, I think you always need 149 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: to start in the box. We'll start with the receivers. 150 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 5: Receivers. 151 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 3: What I saw with the receivers was one miscommunication. 152 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: You got to get on the same page. 153 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: Two, you got to win your one on one battles 154 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: when it's one on one. This is the worst session 155 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: in football to me. You go to football practice and 156 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: you go through your individuals. It's a progression, right. Then 157 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: you get to your one on ones receivers. Should they're 158 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: one on one sessions seventy percent of the time, right, 159 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: And then you get into your seven on seventy again 160 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: on the team and maker progressions there. 161 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: We were not winning our one on one matchups. 162 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: And I don't know if it was lack of effort, 163 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: it was understanding what's going on. But I'm looking at 164 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: the back end when these guys are in man or 165 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: even in zone. And the Ravens did a good job 166 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: passing roussoff on zone and locking guys of one on ones. 167 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: But I also want to talk about the box, and 168 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: I think that the Ravens did a great job of 169 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: disguising a lot of what they're doing and confusing that 170 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: offensive line. Because there's one example I've used three times 171 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: this week. You got three linemen with their hand on 172 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: the dirt. On the right side of the line of scrimmage. 173 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: You got a one, A one tech, a three tech, 174 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: of five tech. Then you have a five tech on 175 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: the left side of that line. The guard is uncovered, 176 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: so now he's looking towards a linebacker. He's saying, all right, 177 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: that's my guy. If he does not blitz or go, 178 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: then I'm gonna help my tackled out because the right 179 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: side of the line is good to go. The backer stays, 180 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: he drops into coverage, he helps out to tackle the 181 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: five tech on the other side, wraps all the way around, 182 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: and he blitzes and he gets to the quarterback. So 183 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: you got to keep a cap off to the Ravens 184 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: and say, all right, you dial some things up. It 185 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: always starts with the big boys off front, but the 186 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: big boys were confused a little bit on the back end. 187 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: They weren't getting open, and then you combine geno not 188 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: making the best decisions recipe for disaster. So now I'm 189 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: gonna ask you on the defensive end, what did you 190 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: see again? 191 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 6: I think, you know, sometimes you just get out coached too, 192 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 6: And that's not a negative. I mean, we have really 193 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 6: good coaches, but they get paid to coach and make 194 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 6: plays too. And I thought they did some really cool 195 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 6: things against US. Had just some routes the way they 196 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 6: ran some of their running plays as well, just some mismatches. 197 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 6: And then there's times where I go, oh, we're in 198 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 6: a wrong gap. I mean there was one on a 199 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 6: goal line play and I mean it was just it 200 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 6: was I ran, I don't know twenty times. Dave Wyman 201 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 6: and I kept talking about it and I go, who 202 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 6: is responsible for this? And I didn't know if we 203 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 6: were in the wrong personnel grouping. And I think it 204 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 6: was their second touchdown and they were on maybe the 205 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 6: three or four yard line and they ran the running 206 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 6: back was offset to our left. It was just a 207 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 6: simple dive play and they double teamed. We had Darryl 208 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 6: Taylor inside, they double teamed him and it was kind 209 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 6: of the C gap and Bobby end up hitting the 210 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 6: gap outside. 211 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 5: Actually exci me. It was the big gap. 212 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 6: Bobby hit the gap outside and I got our digs 213 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 6: who's got to make a play as the free safety 214 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 6: on that? 215 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 5: And I'm like, that just can't be right. 216 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 6: I mean, this can't be how we're playing the You 217 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 6: can't give up a gap that's you can't give up 218 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 6: the front side gap that's right in front of you. 219 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 5: You got to force it to at least go a 220 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 5: little bit wider. 221 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 6: So I thought they did some really good things against 222 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 6: us from a scheme standpoint. You know, Lamar Jackson is tough. 223 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 6: You know, again, they didn't hurt us in the passing game. 224 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 6: We just again they came up third and two, third 225 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 6: and three, they just kept kept converting on some of 226 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 6: that stuff. And then in the second half it just 227 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 6: got away from us. You know, I just thought we 228 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 6: got really tired. You know, they had had twice as 229 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 6: many minutes per in possession time, and they're a physical 230 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 6: football team. I think they just kind of wore us 231 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 6: out time of possession, thank you. 232 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, third and eight plus there was a third and eight, ten, eleven, twelve, fifteen, 233 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: sixteen and twenty one. That's not advantageous for it office, 234 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: but you know what we get to do. Wrap it 235 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: all up, come back this week and get ready to go. 236 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: So w'en we come back. 237 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: Man, We're gonna dive into the next week's opponent. That's 238 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders. That's next right here on Hawk's Live. 239 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: Boks Slid presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue 240 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, Live on air on 241 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: Seattle Sports. 242 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: This is Hortes Live Michael Bumbas with my guy Paul 243 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 3: Moyer Man every Thursday right here on the Sattle Sport 244 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: seven ten broadcasting live. 245 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: From the bellby Score is in a court. This is 246 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: what we do. 247 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 6: We do, we do do that. Hey, you get your 248 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 6: bucks down here to start. Get ready for Christmas shopping, man. 249 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: Get ready, get ready. The way shopping is my nightmare. 250 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, it's my nightmare. I don't I 251 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: don't like it. I don't appreciate it. And thankfully my 252 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: wife takes care of most of it for me. 253 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 5: Oh. 254 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 6: Of course, there's many times where I said, hey, can 255 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 6: you open up your gifts so I. 256 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 5: Can know what I bought you? 257 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 6: But I it's the one time I don't do the 258 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 6: Amazon thing. 259 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 5: I go I want to. I need to touch it. 260 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 5: I need to. 261 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 6: It's kind of go to the store, you go to 262 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 6: the bell. Sure, I'm coming to Belwie Square. Matter of fact, 263 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 6: one of our shows. I will definitely be doing some 264 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 6: Christmas shopping. 265 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: I don't do that. 266 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 5: I do and it's kind of like. 267 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 6: Writing a card, write your handwrite it. It's it's the 268 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 6: thought that matters, right, it's not the gift. And besides that, 269 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 6: I already know. I go, there's eight you know, presence 270 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 6: under the tree that I didn't buy for and my kids, 271 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 6: so not me. 272 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: I will double click have it delivered. Well, your your 273 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: rifle up. 274 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 5: You're more millennial, right, I'm on that borderline. 275 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: It's weird where I'm at. I qualify as a millennial, 276 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: but I identify with X. 277 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm baby boomer. 278 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 6: I mean it's like I'm for sure, so you know, 279 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 6: I'm into the technology and all that, but there's still 280 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 6: some things that I'm still a little old school on. 281 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 3: All right, all right, well you know what, you're not 282 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: old school on these stats? 283 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: All right, that's don't lie, so let's talk about it. 284 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 5: Lie. 285 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, they can lie, But at this point of the season, 286 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 3: you still think they're lying, So ask me if these 287 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: stats are lying. Okay, all right, So offensively, the Hawks 288 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: are twentieth in the league. 289 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: Washington is seventeenth in the league. 290 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 3: Defensively this is overall, the Hawks are twenty fifth in 291 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: the league. 292 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: The Commanders are twenty eighth in the league. 293 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: I always look at weeks six, seven, eight and say, okay, 294 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 3: that's what that team is. 295 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 296 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 6: The only reason why I think it lies is we 297 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 6: had one horrible game last week five hundred yards and 298 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 6: you know that obviously, you know, accentuated the rankings for us, 299 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 6: you know, in the wrong way. And we'd played so 300 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 6: well since week four of the season. Everybody's talking about 301 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 6: we're the number one defense since week four, right, and 302 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 6: then we have one bad game and now we can't 303 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 6: play defense. We're five and two. We just beat Cleveland, 304 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 6: the number one defense in the NFL, and everybody goes, oh, man, 305 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 6: the Seahawks. They're Super Bowl contenders for sure, they got everything, 306 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 6: and now we need to bench Gino and we can't 307 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 6: coach and we're horrible. Why did we trade for Leonard Williams? 308 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 6: And our defense is going nowhere? That's what one week? 309 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 5: That's this? 310 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 6: And so you know social media. We've been battling the 311 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 6: twelves a little bit. But it's also what I love 312 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 6: about the twelves. You're so emotional and it's e motion 313 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 6: more than what we really see. 314 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 5: We're a good football team. We played. 315 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 6: We didn't play well last week, and it happens like 316 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 6: so sometimes you get your tailskip. 317 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 3: All right, so let's talk about what you're gonna see 318 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: or what we're gonna see this year or this week. 319 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 3: Howell he's a three year starter. He was a three 320 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: year starter at North Carolina. While he was there, my 321 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: guy threw for ten thousand yards and one hundred and 322 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: nine total touchdowns. 323 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: He can play some football. 324 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 5: I can now. 325 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: The commander said, look, we might have found our guy 326 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: of the future. I heard that quote. I laughed. I 327 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: looked at the stats, I looked at the film. I go, Okay, 328 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: they might be onto something. I've been saying this for 329 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: the last couple of days. I think that Sam Howell 330 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: physically will be the bare minimum of the NFL quarterback 331 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: in the next five years because he's mobile enough to 332 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: get you. He's not a guy who's gonna rush for 333 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: close to one thousand yards. He'll probably only rush for 334 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: two hundred yards three hundred yards at the max. But 335 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: he's mobile to where the linebackers have to account for 336 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 3: where he is at. And now I'm looking at how 337 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: they're attacking defenses. They're second in the league when it 338 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: comes to yards after the catch. That means that McLaurin, Dotson, Curtis, 339 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: all these guys are getting the football and they're getting 340 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 3: loose and they're settling down to who they are. When 341 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: I look at Sam Howell, I go, you're better than 342 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: what I thought. I'm not looking at film on Sam 343 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: Howell week one, two, three, four or five six, But 344 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: when it's time for the Hawks to play them, I'm 345 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: looking at the film and I go, I understand why 346 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: the Commanders might think they found their guy. 347 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 348 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 5: I mean, look, he's six foot one, two hundred and 349 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 5: twenty pounds. He's just an athlete. He's a good athlete. 350 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 6: He's second on a team in rushing yards where one 351 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty seven yards. You know, you don't think 352 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 6: of him as a certainly not Lamar Jackson, but he 353 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 6: can hurt you with his legs. 354 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 5: And you know he's got good numbers. 355 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 6: I mean, he's got fourteen touchdowns, nine interceptions, a little 356 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 6: high there which killed him. 357 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 5: As he's taken forty four sacks already this year. Forty 358 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 5: four sacks. 359 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 6: I mean Russell Wilson last year did fifty three for 360 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 6: a whole season. Yeah, and you know, through nine games, 361 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 6: this guy's at forty four and you know, hopefully he's 362 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 6: at fifty four by by the end of Sunday. 363 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 5: But he's more than capable. 364 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 6: When they got guys that, I'll tell you what our conversation, 365 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 6: Bump and I conversation during the break was. 366 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 5: We both said, why, you know, they don't do anything bad. 367 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 6: They're good at everything they do defensively and offensive offensively. 368 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 5: They still do anything great. 369 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 6: You don't go, oh, my gosh, that's the greatest passing 370 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 6: trio of wide receivers and quarterback. Oh, it's the greatest 371 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 6: protection of offensive line and tight ends. But they're good. 372 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 6: They're good in everything they do. And so it's gonna 373 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 6: be a game. I mean, we're gonna have to go 374 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 6: take it away from them to win. And they've had 375 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 6: some good game. I mean they lost to Philly by 376 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 6: six or at seven thirty eight thirty one. They got 377 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 6: beat up pretty good against Buffalo so their losses have been, 378 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 6: you know, against good teams. They had one real bad 379 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 6: loss that was just Chicago forty to twenty. 380 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 5: But I'm telling you this is a good team. And 381 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 5: here what they do. 382 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 6: They get rid of you know, Chase Young, who's fantastic, 383 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 6: and they get rid of a sweat as well. So 384 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 6: you think defensively their front four is not going to 385 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 6: be good. 386 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 5: And what do they do. 387 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 6: They go into New England and beat New England who 388 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 6: had just come off a win two. So I know, 389 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 6: y'all think it's gonna be an easy game. Not going 390 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 6: to be an easy game. We're not playing great for 391 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 6: any game to be easy. But it's a game that 392 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 6: if we play to our capabilities, we should win the 393 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 6: sing and be six and three. 394 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: Howe has two thousand, four hundred and seventy one passing 395 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: yards that's number two in the NFL. He has fourteen 396 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 3: touchdowns that's number seven in the NFL. But he also 397 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 3: leads the league with nine interceptions. Like Moriers said, he's 398 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: been sacked forty four times. The Seahawks have only allowed 399 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: nine second half points in the last four games until 400 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: last week. They allowed twenty points against the Ravens looking 401 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: at this and we're saying, Okay, you're not as bad 402 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: as that game was against the Ravens. 403 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: You have to understand that. 404 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: But this is a game to where you have to 405 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: reestablish yourself and say, look, all right, we got some guys. 406 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: We can play some offense, we can play some defense. 407 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: You have the commanders in the Rams these next two 408 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: games before you get into that four game Gamlet, we're 409 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: talking about if you can win these next two, starting 410 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: with this weekend, you walk out of here seventy three, 411 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: you feel really good about your chances going into that 412 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: four game Gonallet. 413 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's get to sixth and three Rams. 414 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 6: We know they always play us tough, and it's gonna 415 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 6: be down in La even though we'll have a home 416 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 6: field advantage because we'll probably have more twelves there than 417 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 6: they will Ram fans. 418 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 5: But is there a must game? You know, when you're 419 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 5: playing the. 420 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 6: Ninth game of the season for you, right, we're five 421 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 6: and three, it's our ninth game coming up. 422 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 5: This is a must win, yeah, for sure for us 423 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 5: to get to the goals that we have set. 424 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,239 Speaker 6: That's to win the NFC West' the NFC West at 425 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 6: five and three with San Francisco. They're gonna get better. 426 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 6: So we've got to make Hay the next two weeks. 427 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 6: And we just got to play better. I think more important, 428 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 6: we just got to play better so we can feel 429 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 6: confident as a team that we're we're the type of 430 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 6: team we thought we were going into the season, and 431 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 6: that the offense was going to be our strength, not 432 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 6: our weakness. And so that's got to flip this week, 433 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 6: and we just got to be playing at all levels 434 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 6: special teams, offense, defense, coaches start making plays again. 435 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 5: Sometimes you got to hit rock bottom to get back 436 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 5: to it. I we're gonna play well this week. 437 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: All right, let's get it. You heard it here, Moyer says, 438 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: must win. Do you agree with bottom? 439 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 4: Now? 440 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: We up started from the bottom. Now we hear Moy. 441 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 442 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 5: Okay. 443 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 6: I just need that in case it doesn't happen. 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Now 460 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 3: we are talking to Evan Brown, the center for the 461 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks. 462 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: Evan, how you doing, man? 463 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 8: Hey, I'm doing it. Y'all done? 464 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: Hey, We're well? We are well, man, I am. 465 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: I've done my research on you, Evan. As soon as 466 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: you got signed, I go, all right, let me see 467 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: what my guy is all about. 468 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: Versatile lineman. You played the center spot, you played the 469 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: guard spot. 470 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 3: I would assume that center has to be the toughest position. 471 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: I always talked about the quarterbacks, how it's the toughest 472 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: position in sports. But I'm I'll put the center right 473 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: behind that. 474 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: What do you think about that? 475 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 8: I'd say, from a mental aspect, yeah, it's it's definitely 476 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 8: up there on the charts there for football in that aspect. 477 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 8: But physical aspect, I mean, yeah, it's another position on 478 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 8: the line. You know, we're always fighting our butt off 479 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 8: and just you know, in constant little dog fights down 480 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 8: there for sure. 481 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 6: Well, it's it's more than just physical, it's it's mental 482 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 6: as well, which you got to have obviously, you know, 483 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 6: from protection working with the quarterback. 484 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 5: Is a center and a quarterback is it similar? 485 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 6: I don't know if you're a baseball guy, but you 486 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 6: know we follow the Mariners and we think of Cal. 487 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 5: Rawley working with the pitchers. 488 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 6: Do you spend a lot of time like a catcher 489 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 6: and a pitcher do with the quarterback during. 490 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 8: The week, Yeah, absolutely, I mean we have we have 491 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 8: our own times where you know, the centers will meet 492 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 8: with the quarterbacks, you know, going over blitz protection early 493 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 8: on in the week, you know, making sure we're on 494 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 8: the same page with all our calls based upon what 495 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 8: a defensive show, you know, exit the line of scrimmage 496 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 8: for our run game, stuff like that. So we're we're 497 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 8: constantly meeting with those guys and just you know, being 498 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 8: on the same same page, making sure our communication is 499 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 8: there and making sure you know, we're just seeing the 500 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 8: same pictures as we see it. 501 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: Evan, when you guys are away. 502 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 3: We watched the games together the pre halftime, in post 503 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 3: game show, myself, Paul Moyer, Brian Walters, and and Ray Roberts, 504 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 3: and we're sitting there were watching the game with Ray Roberts. 505 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: He goes, Man, I hate when defensive players point at 506 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: me when I jump off size or I fall start. 507 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: So then we're watching the game and we see the 508 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: center for the Ravens do the same thing to the 509 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 3: defense man. What's that like? What's that an interaction like 510 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 3: when one guy is false starting or jumping off size? 511 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 3: How intense is that? It looked crazy when we were 512 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: watching it. 513 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I think it's uh. 514 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: You see you. 515 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 8: Emphasize, overemphasize the the you know, whether it's the false 516 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 8: start or the you know, defensive encroachment or whatever they 517 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 8: want to call you. Overemphasize the you know, you tend 518 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 8: to get the call, and you make it kind of 519 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 8: obvious that you know that guy opposite you jumping. So 520 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 8: I think that's all that is, And it looks pretty 521 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 8: pretty funny for the fans. 522 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure it looks fun. It looks fun. 523 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 5: Well that's all that matters. Having fun. Hey, I'm looking 524 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 5: at you. 525 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 6: Last year you start twelve games at guard and then 526 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 6: the Seahawks sign you really as a center? Do you 527 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 6: have a preference and which position do you feel you're 528 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 6: at best? 529 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 530 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 8: I think you know, if I I always say, if 531 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 8: I were to you know, market myself, I would say, 532 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 8: I'm a center who has the ability to play guard. 533 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 8: I think center is a more natural position for me. 534 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 8: It's it's what I've played, you know, growing up all 535 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 8: throughout you know, elementary, middle, high school, and into into college, 536 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 8: played both center and guard, but predominantly bade center and 537 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 8: then predominantly been a center in the league. I think 538 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 8: I can play guard. Me personally, I prefer left guard 539 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 8: over right guard. So you know I was playing right 540 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 8: guard in uh was that twenty twenty two for Detroit. 541 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 8: But you know, the same thing I always say is, 542 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 8: you know, wherever the team needs me, wherever I feel 543 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 8: like they feel like I can help the team the most, 544 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 8: I'm willing to do. 545 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: So. 546 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 6: Well, you've obviously been a pleasant surprise, and there's been 547 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 6: some uh you know, pro football focus all those things 548 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 6: and where you're ranked right now, and there was it 549 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 6: was a week ago where they said you were the 550 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 6: only center had not given up a sack or a 551 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 6: quarterback hit. 552 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: I don't know if you agree with that. 553 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 6: Because you know, those are other people's opinions sometimes with 554 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 6: you know, whether that was a hit or not. 555 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 5: But how do you feel you've played this year? 556 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I've been you know, solid. I think 557 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 8: I've had you know, ups and downs. You know, we've 558 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 8: had obviously a moving offensive line to say the least 559 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 8: with personnel, and it's just all about you know, keeping 560 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 8: that communication up with us. I think you know each 561 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 8: guy who's coming and you know, done their part and 562 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 8: their opportunity, and you know, all the guys are capable. 563 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 8: So you know, I think we're we're still jelling as 564 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 8: an offensive line and definitely, you know, hopefully trending in 565 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 8: the right direction. You know, obviously last week and not 566 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 8: our best performance, but you know, we look back at 567 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 8: the film, you know, see what we did wrong. You know, 568 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 8: some obvious things that we got to correct and you know, 569 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 8: come back next week even better. 570 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: Hey, Evan, what's that communication like with an offensive line 571 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: that's constantly right? 572 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 2: Having a couple guys in and out. 573 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 3: Are there extra meetings that you call or is it 574 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: just extra communication. 575 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: Before practice after practice? 576 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 3: What's it like because as as a fan and an analyst, 577 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 3: we look at the situation and say, this has to 578 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: be tough on these guys not having the same five 579 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: the majority of the weeks. 580 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, I definitely think it is the biggest thing, you know, 581 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 8: among an offensive line is playing together and those reps 582 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 8: together you start to understand and know, you know, what 583 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 8: a guy sees, how he fits a block, how he 584 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 8: he you know, passes off a game. So you know, 585 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 8: the more reps you can get with the guy, the 586 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 8: more you understand what he's going to do. You know, 587 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 8: in certain situations you just kind of build off that. 588 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 8: So when you do have those moving parts, Yeah, it's 589 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 8: definitely an adjustment to it. But you know, everybody's everybody's 590 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 8: capable that's out there, and it's just about you know, 591 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 8: making sure everybody's on the same page. And you know 592 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 8: that can go into you know, some extra meeting time 593 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 8: with guys, just talking to them about how they see this, 594 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 8: how they think they're going to fit that, you know, 595 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 8: on the field, in the practice field, talking about you 596 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 8: know your sits on running pass and how they're seeing 597 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 8: stuff and just you know, constant dialogue about about what 598 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 8: you're seeing, what you're feeling, and you know, turning that 599 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 8: into game performances. 600 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 6: Well, I'm going to take you back to your high 601 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 6: school days and college days. My son and his family 602 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 6: just flew in today from Dallas Fort Worth and you 603 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 6: went to South Lake Carrol, which is in that Fort 604 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 6: Worth area. You know, talk about that because my son 605 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 6: played at Bellevue High School and we played Katie Texas 606 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 6: and look, man, the football in Texas is real. And 607 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 6: South Lake Carol we were watching film because there was 608 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 6: a game this is probably back in two thousand and 609 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 6: nine or ten where South Lake Carol I think it 610 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 6: played Katie and wow it was it was impressive. But 611 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 6: just talk about your your high school experience and how 612 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 6: you end up getting to s. 613 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 614 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 8: Absolutely, Yeah. So I grew up in South Lake for 615 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 8: you know, nearly all my life. The parents moved there 616 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 8: when I was you know, three to six months old. 617 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 8: You ever taken that range, and I grew up there, 618 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 8: love govern minute of it. Played football pretty much all 619 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 8: my life growing up from second grade on. So it 620 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 8: was starting on varsity as a sophomore, had an injury 621 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 8: to my shoulder and had to get surgery there, so 622 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 8: I was out that season. Ended up winning state that season, 623 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 8: so that's always a really fun memory for me. Yeah, 624 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 8: I was a big one there. So I went sixteen 625 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 8: and now that was the you know, always the goal 626 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 8: at South Lake. You see, you know, be playing past Thanksgiving, 627 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 8: which is like the fourth week of the playoffs, So 628 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 8: that was always the goal of our you know, four 629 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 8: out of six weeks of the thing. So then junior 630 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 8: and senior years came and went made it to the 631 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 8: third or fourth round each year they ended up getting 632 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 8: knocked out, and then you know, I was recruited my 633 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 8: senior year and ended up committing to SMU. It was 634 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 8: a good combination of the you know, the ability to 635 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 8: play football high level and get a great academic background 636 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 8: and degree for you know what I want to do, 637 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 8: which was business and finance. So committed there and then 638 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 8: you know, made my way to SMU and was a 639 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 8: four year starter there, played forty seven or forty eight 640 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 8: out of forty nine games, missed one my entire career there, 641 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 8: and then obviously after that undrafted to the Giants and 642 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 8: then the NFL career started. 643 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 6: We had jssan on last week and he went to 644 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 6: Rockwall High School, and I was telling him about this 645 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 6: new stadium they're building out there, one hundred and fifty 646 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 6: million dollars for a high school stadium. 647 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 5: We're going to be around twenty some thousand. 648 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 6: What type of stadium was at South Lake Carrol and 649 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 6: then again South Lake Carry guys is they're a premier 650 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 6: high school football team in Texas and across the country. 651 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 5: But what were some of the crowds like when you 652 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 5: were growing up? 653 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I can't remember ever playing a game 654 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 8: there when both sides of the stadium weren't completely sold out. 655 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 8: You know, it's a town that supports its dragons, and 656 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 8: and yeah, I think our stadium seats, I don't know. 657 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 8: They've expanded it a couple of times since before I played, 658 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 8: and then after now I think its seats pushing twenty 659 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 8: thousand now, I want to say, but but yeah, I know, 660 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 8: it's definitely a great atmosphere to play in. And and 661 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 8: that's that's high school football in Texas. It's it's the 662 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 8: real deal. 663 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: Evan. 664 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: We call what you just did a flex, right, You 665 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: let us know how great football is in the state 666 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: of Texas. 667 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 5: Off from California. 668 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 8: So we we like to. 669 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: Think that California is great, you know what I mean. 670 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: But you know what, we'll we'll tip our cap to 671 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: Texas Maye. 672 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 8: Before those all those California schools, they're allowed they're allowed 673 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 8: to recruit, and you know, they bring in people from 674 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 8: all over the city for these couple couple big one, 675 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 8: big teams where you know, we we get who lives 676 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 8: inside our city limits and that's it. We're not allowed 677 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 8: to recruit. 678 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: Only private schools can recruit. 679 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 8: Evan, Okay, those are the big games, you know, those 680 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 8: are the big name schools that you hear in the 681 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 8: national headline. 682 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: You know what, you just became one of my favorite 683 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: players because I feel like we can have a beer 684 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: and talk some stuff back and forth. 685 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 8: Hey, there you go. 686 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: I appreciate that about you, man, and I appreciate how 687 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 3: you've kind of stepped into the leadership role with this 688 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: offensive line. We've spoken to many players, man, Olu Anthony Bradford, 689 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 3: and they all defer to you, man. So for you 690 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: to come over here and kind of take the lead, man, 691 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 3: we appreciate you, and we appreciate your time and let's 692 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: have a beer and talk some Texas CALLI football and 693 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: we get a chance. 694 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: Man. 695 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 8: Hey, absolutely, and I appreciate that, all right. 696 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: Man, that's awesome. 697 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 3: All right, give it a one time for Evan Brown. 698 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: When we returned, we will go around the NFL. That 699 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: is next right here on Hawk's Line. 700 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: Hawks Live appreciate you by the dining district of the 701 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: Bellevue Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air 702 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: on Seattle Sports. 703 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Hawk's Live. Oh, Michael Babas with Paul Moyer. 704 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: You know what we did a little audible Omaha, Omaha. 705 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: We got Jared Reed joining us right now. 706 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 4: Man, Jerry, how you doing doing good? Man? Doing good? 707 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 8: Man. 708 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 4: I'm curious to be on this show again. 709 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: Hey, we appreciate you. I was so hyped, man. 710 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: I know that the score was out of hand or whatnot, 711 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: but I saw you get in and fly down hill 712 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 3: and smack a band. 713 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: We were hyped just seeing you make a play. 714 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 4: Man. 715 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: We appreciate just the intensity that you play with. 716 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 9: No for sure, Man, I just think that's just part 717 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 9: of my game that I said when I got here, 718 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 9: just bringing that energy, just bringing that different vibe. To 719 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 9: this team needs and just doing my part, playing my role, 720 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 9: and just helping us team win games. 721 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 6: You know, when you look at who they've drafted, you know, 722 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 6: talking about you and Witherspoon too. And one thing they 723 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 6: brought is guys who are physical, and I really think 724 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 6: that's one of the big emphasis on that. Has that 725 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 6: always been your game. Look, you're not the biggest guy 726 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 6: in the world, but man, you play. 727 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 4: Back for sure. 728 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 9: It grew into me once I realized that football is 729 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 9: the sport that I'm going to be playing, that I 730 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 9: have to bring that physicality nature And like you said, 731 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 9: the guy they brought in from me Spoom schaberne Bobo, 732 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 9: we're all physical nature, you know, and I think that's 733 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 9: what we need to want to play this game. But 734 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 9: the identity in the DNA of this team, I mean, 735 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 9: you go all the way back to leading to Boom 736 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 9: and those that you see how physical those guys are. 737 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 4: The rules have changed, so we can't. 738 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 9: Be that physical, but we can be as physical as 739 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 9: the rules allow us to be, you know, and I 740 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 9: think that's what we need. And you see how good 741 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 9: our defense is because of that. 742 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 3: I'm glad you bring that up because I feel like 743 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: your generation is the first ones to. 744 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: Really play with both rules. 745 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, growing up, I'm sure you were taught stick your 746 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: face and the tackle like run put the. 747 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 4: Screws into his numbers are the whole. 748 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: Nine exactly right. 749 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: So now as you make your climb you get into college, 750 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: that changed things a little bit. 751 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: Against the NFL, you can't touch nobody. What type of 752 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: transition has that been like for you? 753 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 4: Just you just got to enhance your skill set. 754 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 9: You know, you can't just rely on just knocking the 755 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 9: guy out and think you're gonna get away with it. 756 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 9: You gotta like take the time and throughout the off seat, 757 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 9: throughout your training, work on your footwork, work on your technique, 758 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 9: work going getting that in and out of brace without 759 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 9: touching the receiver when it come to covering, and just 760 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 9: you know, just learning the learning the game. 761 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 4: You know the game is. 762 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 9: He's going to keep evolving, and the more you can 763 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 9: adapt and get better at that, the long you last 764 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 9: in this league. And I think that's pretty big for 765 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 9: our generation. And some guys figure it out, some guys don't. 766 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 6: Oh, it's and it has changed. You're too young to 767 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 6: remember me. I was safety and back of the night. 768 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 6: My days with the Seahawks was Kenny Easily and Dave 769 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 6: Brown that you didn't well, you didn't. 770 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 5: They didn't come across the metal. 771 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 6: And then on top of that, we had sixty three turnovers, 772 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 6: we created thirty seven interceptions. 773 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 5: Which again before the league. But you were in eighth 774 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 5: grade when the Seahawks won the Super Bowl with the 775 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 5: Legion of Boom. Did you really know who the Legion 776 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 5: of Boom was back then? 777 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 4: I really did? You know? 778 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 9: Like my position playing dB, how could you not know 779 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 9: Camp Chancellor, Earl Thomas. I gotta put my boy kJ 780 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 9: right in there, Like, how do you not know those guys? 781 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 9: You know, Richard Sherman, those guys laid the foundation for 782 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 9: one to Seattle Seahawk. But just DBS and that physical 783 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 9: nature as a whole, you know, you want to beat 784 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 9: those guys. You looked up to those guys, and those guys' 785 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 9: names still whold way to this day and any team, 786 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 9: any league. 787 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 4: Any category, it still holds way. 788 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 9: We still talk about it ten years, ten years ago, 789 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 9: you know. So it's just like that's how the impact 790 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 9: they have in this game is very big, and me 791 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 9: being at dB, I looked up to that and as 792 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 9: you said, eighth grade. 793 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 4: I was panished in to it. 794 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 9: I didn't know the ins and out to a t, 795 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 9: but you knew when they ran down there and knocked 796 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 9: somebody out, you know what's going on. 797 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 4: You know, you cheer for that. 798 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: So us being former ball players, we know, right, tough 799 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 3: game on Sunday, you show up on Monday, you wash 800 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: it away, then you get back to work. What's that 801 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 3: process like for you guys? Is it as simple as that? 802 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 3: I would assume it is because we've been in those positions. 803 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 3: When I played for the Hawks, we weren't very good, 804 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: so we have to do that. 805 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot. 806 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's that process like for you guys? 807 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 4: It's just part of the game, man. 808 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 9: You gotta just take it, live up to it, you know, 809 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 9: and just move on from it. And it is that 810 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 9: simple for some guys, and some guys that's not. You know, 811 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 9: they take it harder. You know, they get frustrated themselves. 812 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 9: They really look in the mirror and try to change things. 813 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 9: And sometimes you need to sometimes you don't. You know 814 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 9: that We're in the National Football League. It's hard to 815 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 9: win in this league. And the game we just played 816 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 9: play against one of the best to top in the 817 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 9: top of the their conference, the top of the NFL 818 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 9: in general, and so you can't really beat yourself up. 819 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 4: It was a bad loss. 820 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 9: I'm not going to say to sit here in sugarcoat 821 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 9: that it was a very bad loss and we wasn't 822 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 9: expecting to lose that bad or. 823 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 4: Lose at all. 824 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 9: But you know, it's just it's a long season. We're 825 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 9: in week ten of a twenty some week season. So 826 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 9: it's no you just got to make learn from your face, 827 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 9: get better, correct yourself, be honest with yourself, and just 828 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 9: carry on with it and hope to win the next 829 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 9: game in the next gaming. 830 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 4: All the way up to the super Bowl. 831 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 6: They always say it's never as good or as bad 832 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 6: as you think it is. So you watch the film 833 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 6: and look, Baltimore's not only are they a really good team, 834 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 6: they're hot. 835 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, so you got you got the double 836 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 5: whammy there. 837 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 838 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 5: But after you watch. 839 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 6: The film and you go through all the corrections, and 840 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 6: some of it was tackling, you know what I mean, Look, 841 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 6: we're shoulder tackling, maybe getting tired, Maybe it was some scheme. 842 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 6: I thought they did some really cool things against you 843 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 6: guys as well. But after you look at that you go, 844 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 6: you know, if we played those five or six plays 845 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 6: better and we played them again, we can shut them down. 846 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 5: Do you feel that after watching it? 847 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 9: I think you said, you hit it on the tee. 848 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 9: You know, there's a lot of mistackles. And they have 849 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 9: coaches in films, just like we have coaches in film. 850 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 9: You know, they realized that when it came to our 851 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 9: run defense, we was very good. And I guess that 852 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 9: when they watched film, they found something that that we 853 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 9: was lacking and they exploited that and we needed that. 854 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 9: And I'm glad that it happened so soon as in 855 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 9: week nine because, like I said earlier, we have a 856 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 9: long season ahead and they just exposed our deficiencies and 857 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 9: now we can just work on those, seal those up 858 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 9: and we won't have that problem again, you know, And 859 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 9: I mean just keep saying it's the National Football Left. 860 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 4: These guys are good, just like we're good. 861 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 9: And you know, you just got to keep getting better, 862 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 9: keep evolving, keep correcting mistakes, and just hope that you 863 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 9: at the end you're gonna have a great season. 864 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 3: One of the things I love about interviewing younger guys 865 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 3: first year, second year in the league is that I 866 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 3: get to watch you guys grow, you know, and you 867 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 3: seem like of all the rookies, you've kind of been 868 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 3: the same this whole time. I want to say, you're 869 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 3: one of the more mature guys when it comes to 870 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 3: where do you get that from? 871 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 2: Is that mom? Is that dad? Family? Like? Where does 872 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 2: this Jared Reed come from? 873 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 5: Mom? 874 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 4: Brother? 875 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 9: The environment I grew up in? You know, just learn 876 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 9: to adapt quickly. 877 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 4: You know. 878 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 9: You can't use the saying that all I'm young, I 879 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 9: can make these mistakes. 880 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 4: I mean you can before how long, you know. 881 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 9: And then just being brought into the system and this 882 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 9: organization with the best and leadership that we have, it's 883 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 9: kind of hard to just be complacent and be immature 884 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 9: because they're not going to put up with it, you know, 885 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 9: because like I said, we have so many great pieces 886 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 9: and assets on this team right now that it's like, 887 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 9: why not be successful now. Some guys are on their 888 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 9: back end of their career. They will have won two 889 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 9: more years, and they're not trying to wait and just 890 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 9: play around and joke about that. 891 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 4: This is their livelihood, this is their lives. They have 892 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 4: families to take care of. 893 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 9: And so for me, coming as a rookie, I feel 894 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 9: like I'm doing them with this service if I'm not 895 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 9: taking this very seriously, and I do. 896 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 4: I still have my fun. I still enjoy it. I 897 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 4: still joke around and play. 898 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 9: But it's just like at certain times you have to 899 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 9: lock in and do your job, and sometimes you know, 900 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 9: you can joke around and play. And I think for me, 901 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 9: just being around Quandre Jamal E wad Gino and I 902 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 9: just see how they go about things, I just want 903 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 9: to be like them, but add my own flavor to 904 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 9: it as well. 905 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 4: And so it's just that's just me. 906 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 6: You know, everybody's journey's different. You know, there's some guys 907 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 6: who are five star recruits in their first round picks. 908 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 6: You were a juco kid junior college. I was a 909 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 6: juco kid down in southern California. There's not a lot 910 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 6: of great Juco I don't want to say teens, but 911 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 6: I want to. 912 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 5: I almost say community. 913 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 6: It is in California that we've lost it up here 914 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 6: in the state of Washington. Don't even know if there's any. 915 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 4: More a certain area. 916 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then. 917 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 6: You you know, again, you're all a branch Mississippi. I 918 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 6: know there's some good jucos there sounder talk about I 919 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 6: graduate from high school. 920 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 5: I was seventeen. I think you were young too. 921 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 4: I graduated seventeen as well. 922 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 6: Talk about that journey. Why did you go to Juco? 923 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 6: How did you end up at New Mexico. 924 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 9: The reason I went to jew Co is because I 925 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 9: had a good senior I had a good high school career, 926 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 9: but because of my size, schools didn't want to pull 927 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 9: that trigger when it came to like big Division one 928 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 9: SEC schools, And so I was committed to ut Martin 929 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 9: FCSD one double A school, and I was honestly just 930 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 9: I was going to go there and just live out 931 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 9: my career and do what I would did there, a 932 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 9: Juco coach came to me and asked me that I 933 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 9: want to go bigger. I had seen myself playing on 934 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 9: a bigger level. Oh, of course, And so he showed 935 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 9: me a clipboard had twelve names. He said, these two years, 936 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 9: these twelve guys all went to Division one from playing 937 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,919 Speaker 9: under me. You come and give me one year, I'll 938 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 9: have you at the next level. And so I went, 939 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 9: did my six months, did my one season. He got 940 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 9: me that Division one offer to New Mexico. I got 941 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 9: my stipend, check, division, one, lifestyle, the whole nine, and 942 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 9: then I just wrote it out. My four years in 943 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 9: New Mexico panned out, you know, got drafted to cis 944 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 9: Seahawks and been going great since then. 945 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: Man, how was it in New Mexico? Because you're coming from. 946 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 3: The south to the Southwest, you know that that had 947 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 3: to be a little bit of change. 948 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 2: For you right there. 949 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 9: One hundred percent. I never left Mississippi. I took trips, obviously, 950 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 9: but like living somewhere else, and especially sixteen hours away 951 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 9: in a whole different region of the United States, it 952 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 9: was very different at first, you know, adapting to that, 953 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 9: not being around like my own people, my own culture, 954 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 9: my own music, my own food, and having to adapt 955 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 9: and enjoy new stuff. Learning how to eat enchiladas and 956 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 9: green chili. You know, that was a whole another conversation 957 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 9: and just not even having that soul for anymore. 958 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 4: But you know, it's just part of the journey. 959 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 9: Football takes you a lot of places, It opens a 960 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 9: lot of doors, and from Mississippi to New Mexico to 961 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 9: the Pacific Northwest, you know, I just keep going farther 962 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 9: and farther away from home. But I'm just learning to 963 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 9: adapt and enjoy, and just what's. 964 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 2: Your favorite Mexican food? What you like most? 965 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 9: I love boreal tacos, man, I love them. I got 966 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 9: my little spot back in the mess. I went back 967 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 9: doing a bow week Guessa. 968 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 7: Man. 969 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 9: It's a local, local, authentic Mexican spot. They honestly don't 970 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 9: speak English when you walk in. They don't take created 971 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 9: cards as straight cast as one of those places. But 972 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 9: it's like the best tacos you can get though. 973 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 6: First time I saw you, it was during camp and 974 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 6: you were it was practice and you were playing the 975 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 6: nickel and you're on a wide receiver, and I watched 976 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 6: your footwork and I went, oh, this kid is quick. 977 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 6: I mean, he's got he's got a game on everything. 978 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 5: But then I saw you. 979 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 6: You're a snowboarder on top of this, So tell me 980 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 6: just all of your athletic ability. 981 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 5: What did you do in high school other than football? 982 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 6: How the heck a man from Mississippi get on a snowboard. 983 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 4: Traveling to New Mexico. 984 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 9: But in high school I did basketball, track, I was 985 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 9: on a bowling team. Just really just trying to test 986 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 9: all the waters and figure out what I really like 987 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 9: and what am I actually good at and I was 988 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 9: good at all those things, you know, very athletic. You know, 989 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 9: thank you got. But how I ended up on a 990 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 9: snowboard was literally just stepping on my comfort zone. 991 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 4: I went to New Mexico. 992 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 9: I made friends with guys who wasn't athlete, so like 993 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 9: my classmates, and so on the weekends, they like to 994 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 9: do cabin trips, going to Purgatory in Colorado, angel Fire, 995 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 9: New Mexico, just taking those trips and just exploring. And 996 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 9: I never experienced that before. I never saw mountains before. 997 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 9: It never slid down a slope before. But you know, 998 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 9: they took me there. You know, it was a rough day. 999 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 9: I fell a lot of times, but as part of 1000 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 9: the journey, like I said, you got to enjoy it, man, 1001 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 9: and a great experience. And I've just been snowboarding ever since. 1002 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 5: Thirty minutes away. You got some snowboard here. 1003 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 4: I seen. 1004 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 9: I went to Vancouver before I even knew I was 1005 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 9: gonna come here, got drafted here and everything. I took 1006 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 9: a trip to Vancouver, same thing, hit the slopes and 1007 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 9: I know it's a lot of snowboarding out here. 1008 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 4: I got some friends out here. 1009 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 9: Jade Edward, she played soccer New Mexico and she played 1010 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 9: pro with the ol Rain. So she has a cabin. 1011 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 9: I don't know if it's North. I think it's North. 1012 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1013 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 9: She got a cabin somewhere and they do snowboarding lot, 1014 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 9: and so it's just I just keep keep that in 1015 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 9: my my arsenal, dough. I'd like to do that in 1016 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 9: the offseason and free time. 1017 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's in your arsenal. Yeah, but 1018 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 3: what's that golf game? 1019 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 2: Like? 1020 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 9: You know, I can't golf. You know, I can't go. 1021 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 9: Give me ten years, ten twelve years. When I'm on 1022 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 9: the back end of my career, I'm retiring. You know 1023 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 9: how that goes, and I'll learn how I learned eventually. 1024 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 9: It suck it. 1025 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 3: If there's any there I can tell you, just pick 1026 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 3: up a golf club and swing it. 1027 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 2: Just just swinging out. 1028 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 9: I know back in you'll take suck it go, but 1029 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 9: you will be good shooting. 1030 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 4: I suck it golf. It's terrible. 1031 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: Everyone sucks that golf. She's still out there for you. 1032 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 4: I give it. I give it to him. I Tacker 1033 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 4: would man. 1034 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 9: If you, if you're listening to this, your sports hard 1035 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 9: than football. 1036 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 4: I can say that I can say that. There we go. 1037 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 2: Hey, well, Jared Man, we appreciate you taking time. 1038 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 4: On the show. 1039 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 2: Give it up one more time for Jeff Reed. 1040 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 4: Thank you guys. Appreciate you guys for having me on 1041 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 4: the show. 1042 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 2: We're going around the NFL. That's next right here on 1043 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 2: Hawks Live. 1044 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 1: Talks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue 1045 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: Collection Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven to nine, 1046 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: live on air on Seattle Sports No. If you're your host, 1047 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: Michael Bumpis, Bess. 1048 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 3: Paul Moyer, Welcome back to Hawks Live presented by the 1049 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 3: Dining Justic got the Bell we Collection. 1050 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 2: The show starts at. 1051 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 3: Seven every Thursday right here in Seattle Sports seven Kent 1052 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 3: seven ten, broadcasting live from Baby Squares in the Court. 1053 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,479 Speaker 2: Matt Nelson. I love you, man. 1054 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 3: We just were joined by one of the most humble 1055 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 3: rising stars. I feel like in this league, man, this 1056 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 3: guy makes a lot of plays on special teams. He 1057 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 3: goes down big hits, defensive player. I feel like he's 1058 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 3: your type of guy. 1059 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 4: Mo. 1060 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,919 Speaker 5: Yet, well, I think he can do a lot. Yeah 1061 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 5: he does. 1062 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 6: You know, back in my day, you had to do 1063 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 6: a bunch, you know, you had to be really smart. 1064 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 5: You had to play multiple positions. 1065 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 6: Look, he's also you know, there's Julian Love and there's Digs. 1066 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 6: You got Adams, So the room is crowded, and when 1067 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 6: you're young, you get to you know, earn your stripes 1068 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,919 Speaker 6: and learn. But he's a really good football Player's become 1069 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 6: a really good special team player. I have no problem 1070 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 6: if our nickel went down or one of our safeties 1071 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 6: that he comes in and we don't lose a beat. 1072 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 6: He's smart, he's tough, great feet, as I mentioned. So yeah, 1073 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 6: it was and you know what a great interview. Great 1074 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,479 Speaker 6: great kid. 1075 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 2: All right, So let's go around the NFL right now. 1076 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 3: One of the stories that intrigues me the most is 1077 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 3: Will Levis with the Tennessee Titans. The Titans draft a 1078 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 3: quarterback and back to back drafts, right, you have Tannehill, 1079 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 3: who's the guy good enough to get you what I 1080 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 3: think they were in the conference championship game a couple 1081 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 3: of years ago, but not good enough to get you over. 1082 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 3: That helped me got Derek Henbry, who's one of the 1083 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 3: best running backs in the league. He's on his last leg. 1084 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 3: When you look at this quarterback situation over there, with 1085 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 3: Levis three touchdowns or maybe oh four touchdowns is first start. 1086 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 2: None his second game? What's going on going on over there? 1087 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 6: And say, well, I mean, look, you they have a team. 1088 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 6: I don't know if they're they're not. I don't think 1089 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 6: they're a super Bowl contending team. Their defense has struggled 1090 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 6: at times too. But you know, when you got a 1091 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 6: thirty five year old quarterback in Tannehill. 1092 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 2: Who's just he's thirty five. 1093 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 5: He's thirty five years old. Wow, I believe he's thirty five. 1094 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 5: I might be off a little bit, but he's been well. 1095 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 5: Correct me. 1096 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 6: If I'm way off, I'm gonna be embarrassed. But now, yeah, 1097 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 6: he's thirty five. I'm actually looking at NASA's no. So 1098 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 6: I was right, And he's just that guy that you 1099 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 6: go there's just always something missing. He's always had a 1100 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 6: pretty good arm. He's you know, he came out of college. 1101 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 6: He was pretty athletic. He could run, but he hadn't 1102 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 6: played a lot of quarterback when. 1103 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 5: He came out. You know, you just got to find 1104 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 5: the guy that you believe in that can make plays. 1105 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 6: And look, we get down a little bit with Geno 1106 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,359 Speaker 6: at times too. Right, when things are perfect, Gino's fantastic, 1107 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 6: and there's times where you've got to have quarterbacks make plays, 1108 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 6: and Gino has all the capability in the world. 1109 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,240 Speaker 5: He's got. 1110 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 6: You know, he's mobile, he can make plays on the run, 1111 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 6: and I just never saw it from Tannehill. And you know, 1112 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 6: now you got this young kid that you know, you 1113 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 6: never know what you're gonna get with rookies, and then 1114 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,959 Speaker 6: you throw them out there and you go, all right, 1115 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 6: this is legit. 1116 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 4: Right. 1117 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 3: Something I wanted to get to was the fall of 1118 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 3: the Niners, something that the Seahawks have benefited from directly, right. 1119 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 2: But they've been banged up. 1120 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 3: Trip Williams is banged up, Deebo has been banged up. 1121 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey has not been producing the way that we're 1122 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 3: used to. Rock Perdy win five games with no turnovers 1123 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 3: in niggas like five in the last three, they get 1124 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,280 Speaker 3: a bye week. I felt like it was perfect timing 1125 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 3: for them, just like it was for the Seahawks when 1126 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 3: it comes to that that fourth week going into the fifth. 1127 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 3: Now they have the Jacksonville Jaguars coming off of a 1128 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 3: bye jackson what do you think about the Niners? 1129 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 6: Well, I think we're gonna really know this week because 1130 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 6: Jacksonville is at six and two, they're they're playing really 1131 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 6: good football. They got a good quarterback, they have good defense. 1132 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 6: You know, you got a head coach who's won a 1133 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 6: Super Bowl. I mean, there's just a lot of things 1134 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,839 Speaker 6: that are doing well. My gut is the forty nine 1135 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 6: ers get it back right. And the reason why it's 1136 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 6: hard for me to understand why they're not playing well defensively. 1137 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 6: You know, you've got an unbelievable front four. They just 1138 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 6: brought on Chase Young, who he didn't play last week 1139 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 6: because they had a bye week, so now he got 1140 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 6: two weeks to get into their system. So you got 1141 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 6: two guys coming off the edge. You got tackles who 1142 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,919 Speaker 6: are both really good and tough, and actually they're deep, 1143 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 6: they're three deep there. I think you have arguably the 1144 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 6: one of the best linebacker duos in the league. You 1145 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 6: know there's secondaries good, but to me, the big one 1146 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 6: is just Brock Purdy hasn't his arm strength hasn't come back, 1147 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 6: not that he. 1148 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 5: Has a strong arm anyways. 1149 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 6: Right, and now people are saying, Okay, we're going to 1150 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 6: force you to do things you don't want to do, 1151 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 6: and we're going to start protecting the middle of the field. 1152 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 5: And he's really outside the numbers. 1153 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 6: And particularly he doesn't want to. He's a great timing quarterback. 1154 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 6: In other words, if he feels like he's got the 1155 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 6: proper coverage and he's got the right position with his 1156 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 6: wide receiver on the dB, he's a really good timing quarterback. 1157 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 5: But he puts air on the ball, and if you've. 1158 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 6: Got good athletes with speed and get a good break 1159 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 6: on him, you're going to get some interceptions on him. 1160 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,959 Speaker 6: And that's where he's really struggled over the last three 1161 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 6: really the last two weeks. 1162 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 5: But I got a. 1163 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 6: Feeling, you know, he's coming off you know, arm surgery 1164 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 6: in the offseason. I just think he needed another week 1165 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 6: or two to get stronger there. But if they falter 1166 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 6: against Jacksonville, then I've seen enough. 1167 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 5: That's four games in a row. 1168 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 6: I've seen enough in that there's a recipe on how 1169 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 6: to beat them. It doesn't mean in three weeks when 1170 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 6: we play them on Thursday night and Thanksgiving, that's going 1171 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 6: to be an easy game. But I'm hoping they lose. 1172 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,399 Speaker 6: I'm hoping we win. We got a one game lead. 1173 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 6: We play the Rams, we went again and we got 1174 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 6: a one game lead when we play them on Thanksgiving. 1175 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm with you, you, I'm witching. 1176 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 3: Come join us here at Hawks Live at Bellvy Square 1177 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 3: Center Court, where we have a chance to win gift 1178 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 3: cards from the Dining District at the Belvy Collection. Tonight 1179 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 3: they're getting away gift cards to Earls Kitchen and Bar 1180 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 3: in Cyprus Lounge and Wine Bar at the weston Bellvy. 1181 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 3: When we returned, it's time for us to go inside 1182 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 3: the film when we'll break some plays down. We're talking 1183 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 3: about boy off a Geno Smith big play to DK 1184 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 3: and keithon Mitchell's forty yard touchdown. 1185 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 2: That is next right here on Hawk's Live. 1186 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 1: Hawks Live. I'm presented by the Dining District at the 1187 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 1: Bellevue Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air 1188 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,760 Speaker 1: on Seattle Sports. 1189 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,919 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hawks Live but Michael Bombas with Paul Moyer. 1190 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 3: Every Thursday, we're right here Belvy Square Center, seven pm, Seattle. 1191 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 5: Favorite day of the week. 1192 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 2: It's what we do. This is what we do. 1193 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 6: We get to eat, we get to talk Seahawk football. 1194 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 6: I mean it's not a bad gig. 1195 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 4: You know. 1196 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 3: We got our family out here, We got Sarah got Renee, 1197 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,720 Speaker 3: got Mikey over. 1198 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 5: There and my son and his girl, and we got 1199 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 5: the Moyers. That was fun. 1200 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 6: Had a nice photo with my newest granddaughter, Tala. 1201 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 3: All right, but now it's time to do what we 1202 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 3: love to do. We love watching film. Once you're done playing, 1203 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 3: he likes a critique and that's what we do when 1204 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 3: it comes to watching film. So this first play we're 1205 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 3: gonna watch from last week. Boy A mafe with a 1206 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 3: strip sack on Lamar Jackson. 1207 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 5: Second down and four. 1208 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 7: He'll now comes out of the backfield lines, will fly 1209 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 7: to the right side, a slot to the far side. 1210 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 7: Jackson steps up. All the stripped away. It's on the ground. 1211 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 7: But seehawks are diving. Did they get there or not? 1212 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 7: Let's see Seahawks. 1213 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 2: Having the ball. 1214 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,320 Speaker 7: I think it's Mafay at the bottom of the pile. 1215 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,320 Speaker 7: As Lamar Jackson rared back to throw, his arm was grabbed. 1216 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 7: The ball came out and boy A Mafey, who had 1217 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 7: to try to chase down Lamar Jackson. All play or 1218 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 7: two or go this time grabs the fumble, returns the 1219 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 7: favor and now the Seahawks have the ball in terrific 1220 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 7: field position. 1221 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,959 Speaker 2: All right, my defensive specialists. 1222 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 5: What you see, man, this is easy. Well. First of all, BOYE. 1223 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 6: Mafey is going up against their left tackle, Ronnie Stanley. 1224 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 6: And Ronnie it was a first round his six pick 1225 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 6: in the draft back in twenty sixteen. I mean, he 1226 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 6: is a legit left tackle and we got boy A 1227 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 6: Mafey playing on our right side. This doesn't get any 1228 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,839 Speaker 6: better the way he uses his hands. And I wish 1229 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 6: I could you could all see it, But as soon 1230 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 6: as Stanley puts his hands up, you get boy Mafey 1231 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 6: uses both his hands and just slaps his hands back inside. 1232 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 6: And so much is It's not necessarily always the speed rush. 1233 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,320 Speaker 6: It's not that you're always trying to get around the tackle. 1234 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 6: What you're trying to do is get around You're trying 1235 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 6: to get your around the edge, and you got to 1236 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 6: get their hands down and get your shoulder, you know, 1237 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,240 Speaker 6: kind of parallel to the to the line of scrimmage 1238 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 6: at some point. This is such a good rush. I mean, 1239 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 6: this is Pro Bowl type of stuff. What we have 1240 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 6: with boy A Mafey is the real deal. He he 1241 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 6: has a chance to be one of the best outside 1242 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 6: linebacking rushers in Seahawk history. He has that kind of 1243 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 6: ability and his maturity on this. As a matter of fact, 1244 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 6: you know you got Derek Hall who's on the other side. 1245 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 6: You know, they're the the maturity and the rush and technique. 1246 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 6: Mafey's light year is still ahead of him. Derek Hall 1247 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 6: is gonna be a great one too for us. But 1248 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 6: boy a Mafey where he is in his second year. Man, 1249 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 6: this is good. 1250 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 2: Stuff man's and he has. 1251 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 6: The wherewithal as he gets around. Not only does he 1252 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 6: he could have sacked him. He knocks the ball out 1253 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,439 Speaker 6: of Lamar Jackson's hands. Oh and he recovers the ball too. 1254 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 6: It's a pretty good play. 1255 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:06,760 Speaker 2: A little bit of everything. 1256 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 3: Yes, there's a reason why wide receivers and edge rushers 1257 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 3: talk because there's some similarities on what they're trying to do. 1258 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 3: Right and me being a wide receiver and I'm one 1259 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 3: on one with a DV or a safety. 1260 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 2: He does a lot of the things that we try 1261 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 2: to do. 1262 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 3: If you look right, he takes he has his right 1263 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 3: foot forward, left with his to ground. 1264 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,320 Speaker 2: The second time is left with his the ground. 1265 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 3: He shifts his weight inside just enough to make that 1266 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 3: tackle believe he's going that way, and that little hesitation 1267 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 3: allows the weak hands and for him to slap his 1268 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 3: hands down and boom, get around the outside. So when 1269 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 3: I watch edge rushers, it gets me excited because I 1270 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 3: look at guys a boy in maf here, and I go, 1271 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 3: he understands how to get a defender slightly off balanced, 1272 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 3: because as a receiver, that's all all we're trying to do. 1273 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get you to the second guess yourself 1274 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 3: for a split second, and that's going to give me 1275 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 3: the advantage. 1276 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what happens. But what he has 1277 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 2: on us is that now you've got to get physical. 1278 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 2: Now you've got to bend the corner. 1279 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 3: Now you've got to get to that get to that 1280 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 3: quarterback and I get too far upfield and make a play. 1281 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 3: It's beautiful when I see an edge rusher do what 1282 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:22,439 Speaker 3: boy Mafey does. 1283 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't see the first part you talked about 1284 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 6: where he's stuck him. He's stuck inside and what ended 1285 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 6: up happening with the tackle at that point he got 1286 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 6: over extended. Now so he you knows, from a golfing standpoint, 1287 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 6: I guess I would say, you know, he's he's too 1288 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 6: far out in the front. Now he's just got bad balance, 1289 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 6: and Mafe recognize that and work the hands. There's a 1290 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 6: lot of good things that's going on with that front. 1291 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 6: Four him Eviic Leonard Williams has a really good rush, 1292 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 6: Jaron Reid, who's double team, you know, the pockets collapsing 1293 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 6: on as well. So there really wasn't anywhere for Lamar 1294 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 6: to step upright which Mafe and you mentioned another word, bend. 1295 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 5: You've got to be able to bend in. 1296 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 6: And really get low and get your shoulders, you know, 1297 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 6: parallel to that line of screama she can all of 1298 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,879 Speaker 6: a sudden make that you know. 1299 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 5: Quick turn. 1300 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,959 Speaker 6: I'm telling you, man, this boy in Mafe, Yeah, man, 1301 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 6: how many sacks you got yet? 1302 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 2: Six? Now? 1303 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 3: Six six in six consecutive week six man tis a 1304 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 3: franchise record. 1305 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 5: In his quickness. 1306 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,839 Speaker 6: I mean, I thought he was pretty good coming out 1307 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 6: of college at of Minnesota. Had no idea he was 1308 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 6: going to turn out to be this good. So really 1309 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 6: good stuff all this. 1310 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 3: Next play, Geno Smith finds dk Metcals for a fifty 1311 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 3: yard bomb play fake. 1312 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,479 Speaker 7: Gino wants to throw, steps up in the pocket, looks 1313 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 7: fires down the middle, ball is caught mattap across the 1314 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 7: forty down to the thirty down, the twenty steps out 1315 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,399 Speaker 7: of bounds on a beautiful crossing or out that time. 1316 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 2: Gino had lots of time. 1317 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 7: He waited for DK to come across the middle. 1318 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 2: He did. 1319 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,919 Speaker 7: They're actually gonna say he stepped out of hounce back 1320 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 7: by the twenty five yard line, a fifty yard pass 1321 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,280 Speaker 7: and run from Geno on the perfect throw to Metcalf 1322 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 7: on the crossing route. 1323 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 3: This right here, Moyer, is just what you needed at 1324 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 3: that point. Right you have three receivers to the right 1325 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 3: of Geno. You got a tight end to attach the 1326 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 3: line of skimming to the left, and these guys are in. 1327 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 3: It looks like they cover three, maybe dependent on what's 1328 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 3: going on on the backside. But what I like is 1329 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 3: just the spacing. As a receiver, I don't like a 1330 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 3: lot of guys in my area, Moyer. I like spacing. 1331 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 3: I like to know this guy's taking that guy a vertical, 1332 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 3: this guy's taking a safety that way, and that's exactly 1333 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 3: what happens. DK's at the number one receiver spot, Tyler 1334 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 3: Locke is at number two. You have a tight end 1335 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 3: at the number three spot. The number three tight end 1336 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 3: goes Look, I'm gonna run like a deep crossman be 1337 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 3: even a post. 1338 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take that linebacker that's running with me. 1339 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 3: And then the eyes of that backside defender of what's 1340 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 3: gonna happen with Tyler Lockett. He's number two inside a 1341 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 3: DK and the tight end, I'm gonna run that corner. 1342 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna occupy that cornerback over there. And then DK 1343 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 3: has the dig going underneath all of that, So Gino 1344 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 3: Smith is banking going everybody occupying receivers and then DK 1345 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 3: being able to go across underneath, and then, like you 1346 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 3: pointed out from the break, the timing of the throw, 1347 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 3: this probably was most impressive. 1348 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 5: Well, I think this shows the potential. 1349 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 6: This is what we saw last year, and then we 1350 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 6: see it at times this year as well. When Gino 1351 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 6: has time, and he has pretty good time, they actually 1352 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 6: they widen the pocket for him so we can actually 1353 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 6: step up and make this throw. So very long developing throw. 1354 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 6: Matter of fact, the ball is a twenty three yard 1355 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 6: throw downfield. It's a long throw for a dig route or. 1356 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 5: A deep end. 1357 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 6: I think they're playing kind of a Tampa too. And 1358 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 6: the reason why I say that is the number three 1359 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 6: the linebackers running with the number three receiver hard down 1360 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 6: the middle, and again it's hard to tell me. It 1361 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 6: could be a soft quarters up top. 1362 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 5: I don't know. It's some form of two or quarters 1363 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 5: to an extent. 1364 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 6: But if you give them time and DK, you know, 1365 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 6: is allowed to run these deep routes, you know you 1366 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 6: can get some big plays. But I'll tell you what. 1367 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 6: This throw is so good. The degree of difficulty on 1368 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 6: this throw is is a ten plus because he throws 1369 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 6: the ball before DK actually flashes open, and DK's run 1370 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 6: and puts his hands out, and I mean, it couldn't 1371 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 6: have hit him any better in the hands. And then 1372 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 6: DK does what he does and takes it another twenty 1373 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 6: seven yards up field. You know, I would have like 1374 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 6: to see him maybe got a few more yards on 1375 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 6: this one. You know, this is the chance we finally 1376 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 6: we were down fourteen. Nothing at the time got us 1377 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 6: to you know, it'd been nice if we got to 1378 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 6: got to fourteen to seven. 1379 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 5: But you know we end up getting a field goal 1380 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 5: on this. 1381 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 6: So but again, great play, great protection, great throw, great route. 1382 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 5: You know, it's the abilities there. We just need more 1383 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 5: of it, all right. 1384 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 2: This next play keeping Mitchell forty yard touchdown second down 1385 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 2: and five. 1386 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 7: Mitchell with the handoff again and he's off to the 1387 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 7: races and he is gone. Are they gonna catch him? 1388 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 7: Bill in tanto touchdown? Baltimore ravens, and that's a Seahawks 1389 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 7: defense that has just been up against it all game long. 1390 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 7: And finally they break and keeping Mitchell races to the 1391 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 7: end zone from forty yards out and Baltimore is blowing 1392 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 7: this thing open now thirty five to three. 1393 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, it's holding. 1394 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 6: This place should absolutely be called back because they just 1395 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 6: I won't even say the word, but Draymont Jones, I mean, 1396 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 6: he's got him by the jersey. He darned near picks 1397 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 6: him up and throws him on the ground. And it's 1398 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 6: at the point of attack. This is a hole, it's 1399 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 6: a whole. It's a hold. Throw the flag and with 1400 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 6: that it's a really good run. It's a really tough 1401 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 6: spot for Jamal Adams because of the way this breaks 1402 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 6: out and wide. And I think what Steve said to you, 1403 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I just think we were gassed. But if 1404 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 6: they don't allow the egregious holding on this play, there's 1405 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 6: not a play on this thing. And so sometimes it happens, 1406 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 6: you know, refs don't help you. 1407 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 3: Yep, I agree one hundred percent. There's some holding there. 1408 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 3: I feel like, guys, we're in the right position. A 1409 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 3: linebacker could have scraped down the line of scrimmage. 1410 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 5: A bit to hold. 1411 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 2: It is what it is. 1412 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 3: And thankfully we don't have to look at this film 1413 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,919 Speaker 3: no more after today. All right, all right, So when 1414 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 3: we're returned, it's time to talk that talk. 1415 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 2: Mayer and I will square up and be. 1416 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 3: Like, look, man, let's see what leaters, Let's see what 1417 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 3: happened here. Also, let me let you guys know, make 1418 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 3: sure you go out to bil v collection niney di. 1419 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 2: Actually, so many great restaurants choose from today. 1420 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 3: We had our pre show meal at one of our 1421 01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 3: favorite places, Earl's Kitchen and Bar Man. I had a sliders, 1422 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 3: You had a crab cake. My guy had the wings. 1423 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 3: Over there, they got a great holiday set mingus featuring 1424 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 3: dishes and cocktails like the Holiday Magaria and the Sangria, 1425 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,439 Speaker 3: amazing happy hour foods starting at four dollarsand drinks at five. 1426 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 3: Gift cars for holiday shop and all that. You guys 1427 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 3: go check out Earls. When we come back, we'll talk 1428 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 3: to that taught that's next right here on Hawks. 1429 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: Lot, It's time to talk that talk with Michael Bumpas 1430 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: and Paul Moyer on Hawks Live. 1431 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hawks Live. Oh, Michael Obamas with Paul Morial. 1432 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 3: We got our soldiers left. 1433 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm flexer right now. We had a stream. 1434 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 3: You guys will see me looking like I way two 1435 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 3: twenty five, but I'm abut ninety five? 1436 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 5: Are you buck? 1437 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1438 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 5: You know you lift in, you're working out. 1439 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 2: I do something, okay, you know I do old man workouts. 1440 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 2: Now it's like, oh. 1441 01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 3: Flexibility, flex do some push up, some rotational, waited squad. 1442 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 2: You know. 1443 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 3: You know what's messed up is my workouts catered to 1444 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 3: my golf game. 1445 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 2: Now that's how you know. 1446 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 5: That's where I am doing a lot of back at stretching. 1447 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 2: Rotation, rotation, rotational. 1448 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 5: I'm the same way I do. 1449 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 6: I do these yoga things every morning, night, stretch, and 1450 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 6: it's all about making sure my back is good to go. 1451 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 6: The weather is supposed to be so bad Saturday in 1452 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 6: bum but we've got a tea time at Newcastle Saturday. 1453 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, what time? I think nine am and I 1454 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 6: could probably shoot one hundred and twenty. 1455 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 2: Five, or you can shoot seventy five. 1456 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 6: You know this game, I'm thinking it's gonna be more 1457 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 6: into one twenty range. 1458 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 2: Don't do that to yourself. Well, no, I can't see 1459 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 2: you shooting one twenty. 1460 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 5: You can break. I mean, I'll shoot a score, but 1461 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 5: I'm concerned. 1462 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to talk. That talk, that's the word. 1463 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 2: Boy and I. 1464 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 7: Uh. 1465 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 2: We debated a little bit, me and more debating what 1466 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 2: never not us? 1467 01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 5: No, we have what would you say we have? But 1468 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 5: our relationship, yeah, I mean we can speak the truth. 1469 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,800 Speaker 6: Sometimes we get it a little sensitive, each of us, right, 1470 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 6: sensitive a little bit. 1471 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 5: No, not like it's sensitive, Sam, But sometimes we go 1472 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 5: it's my man about me. 1473 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 3: That's how you know. We love each other right exactly. 1474 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 3: So I don't know how to describe it. You guys 1475 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 3: describe it for us. 1476 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll just talk. 1477 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 5: I think it's a good relationship so personally. 1478 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 2: But it is with me too, all right. The first 1479 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 2: of one. You want it, you want me to want 1480 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 2: me to do it. 1481 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 3: You're the leader, all right, Hey, look at you see, 1482 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 3: trying to soften me up before you tell me I'm wrong. 1483 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 3: I can't what you're doing right now. I ain't falling 1484 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 3: for it. Moy alright, just want me go, Hey, the 1485 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 3: beat down the Sea hows tooken Baltimore will be the 1486 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 3: turning point in their season? 1487 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 4: Yes? 1488 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 2: No, maybe? So what do you think more? 1489 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 6: Here's why I'm gonna say yes, because I think this 1490 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 6: next game, if we, if we just play well, we 1491 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 6: get this thing right, and then we got the Rams 1492 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 6: and we have a chance to really get it right 1493 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 6: before we go on the Gauntlet. If we if this 1494 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 6: week we had Philadelphia. And I may not say that, 1495 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 6: you know, because I've seen it where you also you 1496 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 6: get beat bad and then you play another really good 1497 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 6: team and you you just you lost your confidence and 1498 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 6: it takes just an ugly win to flip that. And 1499 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 6: I've got a million examples of that. So I'm gonna 1500 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 6: say yes. And we played a really good team. Whatever 1501 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 6: it was to me, it was I looked at the 1502 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 6: film over and over and I go, man, this is 1503 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,920 Speaker 6: one of thing. I go, coach, got to do a 1504 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 6: better job, got to make better decisions, We've got to 1505 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 6: be more physical. It's not as bad as you think 1506 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 6: it is. I mean, we need to make a couple 1507 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 6: of plays. I just told you about the one forty 1508 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 6: yard run that there's two holding pedalties. Reff's got to 1509 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 6: do their job too, right. It was just a perfect storm. 1510 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 6: We played a hot team. We weren't playing great, but 1511 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 6: we came off a really good win win against Cleveland. 1512 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 5: And maybe we got a little fault sense of. 1513 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 6: Security of we're playing better than we are and now 1514 01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 6: we got smacked and we said, oh, that's what we 1515 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,920 Speaker 6: gotta be to be to win the West and be 1516 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 6: a super Bowl contended team. So I'm gonna say yes, 1517 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 6: and we're gonna right the ship this week. 1518 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna say no, it's not the turning point. 1519 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 3: And the reason why I'm gonna say no is because 1520 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 3: I think one time throughout the season, good teams just 1521 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 3: get their bus kit. Yeah, and it just happens that way. 1522 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 3: So I don't think it's a turning point. I think 1523 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 3: it's an awakening. Like, all right, guys, remember you're playing 1524 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 3: a good division where they're playing the AFC North is 1525 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:38,479 Speaker 3: what they're playing. They got Ravens, Baltimore Steelers, who. 1526 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 2: Am I missing? 1527 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 3: And the Bengals, right, so you're gonna have to play 1528 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 3: a good conference, maybe the best conference in football right now. 1529 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,760 Speaker 3: So a turning point, No, I would say, like a 1530 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,040 Speaker 3: smack in the face, wake kill you know what? 1531 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 2: Up? Yeah, I'll take that all right. 1532 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 5: Let me go down to this one. This is a 1533 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 5: big game. 1534 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 6: We mentioned earlier that the wash Sinton's a good football team, 1535 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 6: not a great football team. 1536 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 5: I got a good quarterback. 1537 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 6: I don't know if he's great, but he's good, and 1538 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 6: he's mobile, and he's throwing for a lot of yards. 1539 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,440 Speaker 6: One weaknesses he's given up. They've he's been sacked forty 1540 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 6: four times, and we've had a tendency when we play 1541 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 6: a team that's had struggled there that we put. 1542 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:19,520 Speaker 5: The hammer down. 1543 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 6: So my question is the Hawks will sack Sam how 1544 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 6: at least four times Sunday. And as I mentioned, he's 1545 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 6: been sacked forty four times this season. 1546 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 2: Forty four times in nine games. Somebody do the math. 1547 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 3: It's over four five missus Rogers says five per game. 1548 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say what the numbers say, and I'm 1549 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,479 Speaker 3: gonna say, yes, you know what, And Boyer is gonna 1550 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 3: get no. I was thinking that, okay, And DT's gonna 1551 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 3: get one, Derek Hall is gonna get one, Jay Ree 1552 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 3: is gonna get one. 1553 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 2: There's your five right there. 1554 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 1555 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go a six because Leonond Williams is. 1556 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 2: Gonna get one two, okay, all right? And uh. 1557 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think well, you know, it helps when you 1558 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 6: got an the lead. So we need to get to 1559 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 6: a good start. We need the offense to execute early. 1560 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 6: If we can get these guys into passing situations, you know, 1561 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 6: Sam House or rookie. Rookies make mistakes and he can 1562 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 6: make some plays. They got some speed at receiver. But yes, 1563 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,760 Speaker 6: we're gonna get at least four, at least four. 1564 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I'm with that. Here's the next one. 1565 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 3: The Seahawks are running too much eleven personnel and not 1566 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 3: enough thirteen. First, you got to tell the people what 1567 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,240 Speaker 3: that means eleven versus thirteen. 1568 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 2: Not sure, John's my job. Yeah, you're off, all right. 1569 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 3: So eleven means you got one running back, you got 1570 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,920 Speaker 3: one tight end. Eleven thirteen personnel means you got one 1571 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 3: running back, you got three tight ends. That means everybody 1572 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 3: in the tight end room is on the field with 1573 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 3: a running back. I'm going to say, no, I'm gonna 1574 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 3: say they need more twelve. 1575 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,320 Speaker 5: What's the twelve there? Yeah, I'd agree with that. 1576 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 6: And by the way, just so you know on these personnel, 1577 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 6: it's got to add up to five. 1578 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 5: Right, So what do I mean by that? 1579 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,040 Speaker 6: So eleven personnel means you got one running back, one 1580 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,120 Speaker 6: tight end, and now I've got three wide receivers. Right, 1581 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,840 Speaker 6: so I got one, I got one, it's two. What's 1582 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 6: left over of the wide receivers, thirteen personnel? I got 1583 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 6: one running back, I got three tight ends. That's four, 1584 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 6: so I got one wide receiver. 1585 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 5: I think you need. 1586 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 2: Hey, so that's why say go ahead and explained it. 1587 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 5: No, I was just I was adding too. 1588 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:26,160 Speaker 4: No. 1589 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 6: I thought you did a fantastic job. Except the one 1590 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 6: person out there. They were scratching their head. I was 1591 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:31,200 Speaker 6: trying to help. 1592 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 5: But how many wide receivers? So it's we add up 1593 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:34,280 Speaker 5: to five? 1594 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 6: But they give the first two numbers there and how 1595 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,679 Speaker 6: many running backs and tight ends, and then you figure 1596 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,120 Speaker 6: out how many wide receivers from there. 1597 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,560 Speaker 5: I think we need more twelve personnel. I really do. 1598 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 6: Look, this is this is a challenge. Now, this is 1599 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 6: tough for Waldron. I think it's tough for Pete. You 1600 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,720 Speaker 6: just drafted JSN in the first round. We've got three 1601 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 6: great wide receivers. I can make a case we got 1602 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 6: five great wide receivers. Throw d Eskridge in there. Throw 1603 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 6: Bobo in there with the you know, some matchups, particularly 1604 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 6: down the red zone. And he's good in the running 1605 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,600 Speaker 6: game with his blocking. But now I got three fantastic 1606 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,799 Speaker 6: tight ends. And will Disley is he only played eleven 1607 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:12,799 Speaker 6: plays last week. 1608 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 5: I mean he was our number one tight end at 1609 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 5: one point. 1610 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 3: All right, here's my question though, for you. So you 1611 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,360 Speaker 3: want to see more tight ends. 1612 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 5: I want to tell you why. 1613 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 3: So you're okay with less jsin in Bobo, You're fine 1614 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:26,680 Speaker 3: with that. 1615 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 5: Look, I think it's a tough call. 1616 01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 6: But I think from a protection standpoint, it's more important 1617 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 6: that we protect Gino longer to let some routes develop longer. 1618 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 6: And so that's the only reason why I'd like to 1619 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,559 Speaker 6: see more twelve. I'd like to see some thirteen in 1620 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,680 Speaker 6: there too, just so we can run the football, you know, 1621 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, you can you get a form 1622 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 6: of an unbalanced line when you throw three tight ends 1623 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 6: out there, and let's play some power football man, let's play. 1624 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,680 Speaker 6: But give me Anthony Bradford when he's healthy, and you know, 1625 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 6: hopefully we get Abe Lucas back too as well. And 1626 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 6: I'm like, throw three tight ends out there. I want 1627 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 6: to wear some teams out. I'm not saying a steady diet. 1628 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 6: But last week you had ninety percent of snaps went 1629 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,840 Speaker 6: to Tyler Lockett, eighty seven went I think it was 1630 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,840 Speaker 6: around eighty seven percent went to DK Metcalf and eighty 1631 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 6: two percent with JSM. I had less than ten percent, 1632 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 6: around ten percent with Disley. It's just it's fallen off, 1633 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,720 Speaker 6: and it may be the right thing depending on matchups. 1634 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,800 Speaker 6: I just want to see a more balance, and I 1635 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 6: get it. It's going to dictate the score too. If 1636 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 6: I'll send your behind, you're going to go with three 1637 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 6: wide receivers or eleven personnel. 1638 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 3: All right, but early in the game, that's where you 1639 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,120 Speaker 3: have to see. Early when the zero zero sevens or 1640 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,040 Speaker 3: whatever the score is scripts where you can do. 1641 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 5: The scripts, the scripts, and then from there you let 1642 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:42,960 Speaker 5: the game dictate. 1643 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,800 Speaker 2: Would you script ten or fifteen plays to start your game? 1644 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,600 Speaker 6: Well, I'm a fifteen kind of guy. Actually I do 1645 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,639 Speaker 6: eighteen because I think I got. 1646 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 5: Eighteen in me. I don't understand why that. Why don't 1647 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 5: they script thirty? 1648 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 6: Right? And I know you've told me because I down 1649 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 6: a distance and third downs and all that stuff. But 1650 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,719 Speaker 6: I go if the first twelve to eighteen plays scriptive 1651 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:04,759 Speaker 6: works so well. 1652 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 5: I'd script more. 1653 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 2: All right, script more? 1654 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,720 Speaker 5: Do I got time for one more? One more? 1655 01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 1: Oh? 1656 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 2: We do? 1657 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 4: We do? 1658 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:11,640 Speaker 2: All right, let's get it. 1659 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 5: I'll go all right, all right, we gotta go quick. 1660 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,719 Speaker 6: Geno Smith, he's you know, the last three games, he's 1661 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 6: had some turnovers. Geno Smith this week will break his 1662 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 6: turnover streak this weekend versus the Command. 1663 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,679 Speaker 3: No turnovers, no turnovers. You know who's gone? Who Chase, 1664 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:30,800 Speaker 3: know who's gone? 1665 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 5: Sweat? 1666 01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:31,879 Speaker 2: Sweat? 1667 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:32,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know who. 1668 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 2: We ain't playing Barton. 1669 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,760 Speaker 3: Okay, he's not my guy, Bardon, he's on a right, 1670 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 3: he's on I I love me some Cody Barton, and 1671 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 3: I've got a lot of flag for liking Cody Barton. 1672 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 3: But you know what I'm gonna say, this is the week. 1673 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 3: You know why, because they're gonna establish the ring game. 1674 01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,120 Speaker 3: We're gonna see more thirteen, We're gonna see more twelve. 1675 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 3: We're gonna see tight ends out there, and uh, we'll 1676 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 3: be able to establish the run. Get everybody to bite 1677 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 3: and boom, you're over the top. Gina's gonna have a 1678 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 3: beautiful picture of space. When he's throwing that football, I'm 1679 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:03,599 Speaker 3: with it. 1680 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 6: James gonna have three touchdowns, no interceptions, no turnovers. 1681 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,720 Speaker 2: Three touchdowns nor deceptions, don't turnovers. 1682 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 5: Gotta have it. 1683 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 2: Three will be gonna have it most of the year, 1684 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:13,439 Speaker 2: for sure. 1685 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 6: Well, I think there's a lot of talk amongst each other. 1686 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 6: I think the wide receivers, the quarterback, the offensive coordinator, 1687 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 6: the head coach. They've had a really good conversation this week. 1688 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 6: They're gonna be all beyond the same page. I think 1689 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 6: Gino is gonna let this same fly. 1690 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 3: All right, let it fly, Shane Walson, let him let 1691 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:34,559 Speaker 3: it fly. But I also want to. 1692 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,439 Speaker 2: See quick game for sure. A lot a lot of times. 1693 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 3: I'm looking at the beef and I'm saying, look, Hitch 1694 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 3: with slant throwing out, we'll. 1695 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Beget to go. 1696 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 6: I'm gonna save my question for our last segment. I'm 1697 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 6: gonna ask you about RPOs. 1698 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 2: Got you all right? 1699 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 3: Well, when your return, I will answer a question about 1700 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 3: r pos. We'll give you our final thoughts and our 1701 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,840 Speaker 3: keys of victory. That's next right on Hawk's Lot. 1702 01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,799 Speaker 1: Hawks Slide presented by the Dining District of Lview Collection 1703 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,680 Speaker 1: at Bellevue Square Center Court live on air on Seattle. 1704 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 3: Sports Welcome back to Hawks Live Michael Bambas with Paul 1705 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 3: Moyer aka Paul Boy. 1706 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:11,680 Speaker 5: Yeah yea. 1707 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,360 Speaker 3: And before the break, you said, up, I'm gonna save 1708 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 3: a question. 1709 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 2: I'm interested. 1710 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 3: Usually when the co host says I'm gonna save a 1711 01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 3: question for you during the break, Hills, Hey, man, so 1712 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you. He ain't say nothing to me, folks, 1713 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:26,240 Speaker 3: he ain't say nothing. 1714 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 6: So we were talking about something else that we want 1715 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 6: to talk about, and it was football, but not enough 1716 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 6: time for that. So I came from an area that 1717 01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,120 Speaker 6: we didn't have RPOs, right, I mean run past option, 1718 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,640 Speaker 6: and today it's it's everywhere. Oh man, it's it's predominant. 1719 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 6: I mean, I I one. I'm gonna ask you to 1720 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,360 Speaker 6: explain a little bit and more part, how much do 1721 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 6: the Seahawks do you think use in? And there were 1722 01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:57,000 Speaker 6: some opportunities last week and actually even Tony Romo talked 1723 01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 6: about some plays that you know, maybe Gino didn't see. 1724 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,080 Speaker 6: All of a sudden, they were showing a blitz and 1725 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 6: there was one guy covering two of our guys out 1726 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,960 Speaker 6: wide and that that should have been just a quick throw. 1727 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:08,719 Speaker 6: And then they did it again and we still didn't 1728 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 6: do it, and I think they did it again. And 1729 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 6: I don't know if he was one hundred percent accurate, 1730 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:16,280 Speaker 6: but I remember him saying that how much is in 1731 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:16,639 Speaker 6: the game? 1732 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 5: Is every play an RPO? 1733 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:21,320 Speaker 2: I think that. 1734 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 3: Sixty five to seventy percent of plays should be RPOs. 1735 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 3: When you're in that yardage second and five, third and four, 1736 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 3: those to me are the RPO yardages. 1737 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,439 Speaker 2: Or on first down, you do whatever you want to write. 1738 01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 3: Second down, I feel like you should know what you 1739 01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,200 Speaker 3: want to run according to the distance. As far as 1740 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,519 Speaker 3: how often do the do the Seahawks run RPOs? I 1741 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 3: don't think as often as maybe the Eagles or the 1742 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins. Because the reason why I think that is 1743 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,439 Speaker 3: because I'll look at a handoff and I'll look at 1744 01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,920 Speaker 3: the slot receiver. The slot receiver is the key receiver 1745 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,559 Speaker 3: in these RPOs. 1746 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:05,240 Speaker 2: Because who you're reading. 1747 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,639 Speaker 3: You're reading defensive ends, you're reading outside linebackers, you're reading 1748 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 3: safeties as they drop down. Because what you're doing is 1749 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 3: you're saying too many numbers in the box, Boom, I'm 1750 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,840 Speaker 3: going to get it out quickly. Your slot receivers are 1751 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 3: the guys who're going to get the ball quickly. So 1752 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,240 Speaker 3: I think that if there's anything I'm glad you brought 1753 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,280 Speaker 3: that up because I've felt this way. I think that 1754 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,880 Speaker 3: if there's anything the Hawks can do better at are 1755 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:29,720 Speaker 3: running RPOs because if you have a quarterback and receivers 1756 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 3: who are on the same page, you will always be right. 1757 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,240 Speaker 3: And even if it's a three or four yard pass, 1758 01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,599 Speaker 3: that's just as good as a three or four yard run. 1759 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,800 Speaker 6: Okay, So let me ask a follow up question, because 1760 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,040 Speaker 6: you kind of said we need more running RPOs. 1761 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 5: Can you have a passing run out or look? I 1762 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 5: get that. 1763 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 6: You know an RPO is you know we have a 1764 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 6: running play. So the offensive line they don't know this 1765 01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 6: is on the quarterback and the receivers, right, and so 1766 01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,479 Speaker 6: they're going to block like a to run. 1767 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,840 Speaker 5: And the old days, we had check with me. We 1768 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,280 Speaker 5: might check the other side. 1769 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,080 Speaker 6: On a run, or maybe you would audible out of 1770 01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,439 Speaker 6: a run because you see it front, you got you. 1771 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 5: Got an audible to a pass. Today they don't do that. 1772 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,120 Speaker 6: They say we're gonna run and if we don't like it, 1773 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,679 Speaker 6: we've got this quick pass over here, because it's got 1774 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,200 Speaker 6: to be quick, because if it's not, they're gonna they're 1775 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:23,080 Speaker 6: gonna have linemen downfield in that situation. So and again 1776 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 6: I'm asking the question, can you have a pass run 1777 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,559 Speaker 6: r PO or it's just not always be a run. 1778 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:33,080 Speaker 3: Pass if if you want to have a pass run, 1779 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 3: there has to be a check before the ball is snapped, 1780 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,920 Speaker 3: all right, because, like you mentioned, you're gonna your offensive 1781 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,080 Speaker 3: line are gonna get downfield and it's gonna be all bad. 1782 01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,320 Speaker 3: So what you're looking for is you're never gonna have 1783 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 3: an RPO that's gonna hit thirty yards through the air. 1784 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a five or six yard game because 1785 01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,559 Speaker 3: what do you have three yards with the offensive lineman 1786 01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,680 Speaker 3: getting downfield before there's a legal men downfield. 1787 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 2: But it's an art. 1788 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough, tough for defenders. It is really hard. 1789 01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 6: You're reading the key, you think it's a run and 1790 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,439 Speaker 6: elso and the ball is thrown and you're like, wow, 1791 01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:09,360 Speaker 6: it's not a play action. 1792 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,720 Speaker 5: Uh, you know, which you have different rules for. 1793 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,800 Speaker 2: So I mean, because what are the rules? What are 1794 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 2: as a defender? 1795 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,839 Speaker 3: As a safety, who would walk down on the box, 1796 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 3: you see a tackle, block down, you see a guard pool, 1797 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:21,880 Speaker 3: You're thinking runs run all day? 1798 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,759 Speaker 2: So I treated as run right, Yeah. 1799 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 5: Yeah for sure. 1800 01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:28,120 Speaker 6: And play action is different because they fake like it's 1801 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 6: it's a run, but they don't really go across the 1802 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 6: line of scrimmage. And then receivers are releasing, so usually 1803 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 6: a tight ends release and and trying to cross face 1804 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,200 Speaker 6: a linebacker. But you read the keys, you go, uhha, 1805 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 6: I see flow as soon as you got to feel 1806 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 6: that release, and then you turn to run. And usually 1807 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 6: play action and bootlegs they're pre designed plays you see film. 1808 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,080 Speaker 6: You know exactly. You just run to the spot, whereas 1809 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,559 Speaker 6: an r P O, I don't know what you're doing. 1810 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 6: You know it's it's it's a tough, tough game. So 1811 01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,840 Speaker 6: I think we need to do a little bit of 1812 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,760 Speaker 6: that against uh Aushington this week. 1813 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,960 Speaker 2: I'm with that done. I'm with that something else. 1814 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 3: You need to see anything from the defense that you 1815 01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,280 Speaker 3: feel like this needs to happen for this team to 1816 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:10,919 Speaker 3: have success. 1817 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,439 Speaker 6: I think it's just simple. I think we just need 1818 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 6: to tackle better. That's what got us. We'll cover these 1819 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,840 Speaker 6: guys we match up well. I think our secondary is 1820 01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 6: still playing well. Big runs that's usually on the secondary, 1821 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 6: just poor angles, poor reads. But if you really were 1822 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,920 Speaker 6: to put one emphasis last week we shoulder tackled a 1823 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,920 Speaker 6: couple times and it costs us some big plays. 1824 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 2: All right, big game this weekend. 1825 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,920 Speaker 5: It's huge. Every itch has been of the season. 1826 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,679 Speaker 3: Every weekend is a championship opportunity according to our guy 1827 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:49,240 Speaker 3: Pete Carroll. But you get the commanders and the rams 1828 01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 3: before you get into that gauntlet. 1829 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:52,800 Speaker 2: It starts here with this one. 1830 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,639 Speaker 5: No easy games. 1831 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,760 Speaker 6: We got to go play well, and you better start 1832 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,720 Speaker 6: playing well this week and the following week, and then 1833 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,800 Speaker 6: we get into the gauntlet where we got to really 1834 01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:01,680 Speaker 6: play well. 1835 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,240 Speaker 3: All right, Hey, special thanks to Evan Brown Jared Reed 1836 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 3: for joining the show or excuse me. Our board operator 1837 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,760 Speaker 3: is Max Strubel. On site engineers Matt Nelson. Production as 1838 01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 3: sins It is Chauncey Sanderson. Our executive producer is Nasa Toby. 1839 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,880 Speaker 3: The Seayhalls Pree Game Show is live this Sunday starting 1840 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,040 Speaker 3: at ten am. Until next time. I'm your host Michael 1841 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,160 Speaker 3: baumas what my guy Paul Moyer. We'll be back next 1842 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 3: week right here on Hawks Live.