1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Revel, revel, Look at this now tiptop Jesus, Oh. 2 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Do you want. 3 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Using will be wong to? 4 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 3: It's time to bank? Oh yeah, man, it just feels 5 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: so good to be weird. Luke Monday, July fifteenth, twenty 6 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 3: twenty four, how about the best damn combat sports show 7 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: and lifestyle gathering period And we're gonna give away a 8 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: Ford Raptor to our oh sorry, wrong podcast, Luke Rogocket 9 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: dens Boarding Combat. Hey Looke, people were so excited for 10 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: us to be back in Manhattan that Meadow Larks Studios 11 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: say that there were Colombian people crawling in the air 12 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 3: conditioning ducks to get in the building today. 13 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: Is that racist? May or not? Well, slightly but not 14 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: altogether unfounded? 15 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: What the frick is going on now? 16 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 4: So my understanding, I mean here, we we actually we 17 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: were at that venue. We saw Mayweather do his boxing 18 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 4: nonsense logan Paul there and I thought it. 19 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Was a nice facility. 20 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 4: My best read on this is and who's the guy 21 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: from Lebatar, Mike Ryan, I'm talking about this? Do this 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: place host super bowls and concerts? And you know NCAA 23 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: National Championships? 24 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: All that? 25 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 3: Columbians were like, fuck, you no Cono Bowl. 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: Do you know who Conono Bowl is? 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 5: No? 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 4: Okay, so Conka calf that's the organizing body that does 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 4: North American soccer. Conva Bowl is South America. Conona Bowl 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 4: is notorious for being ass at organizing. They were in 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: charge of this and they royally fucked it up. Wow, dude. 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: People were marching in there, storming the gates January sixth 33 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: and six six in their way into it, while people 34 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 4: were outside with tickets that were like two thousand dollars apiece, 35 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: I'd be livid, I'd live and Columbia lost anyone. 36 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: You know what that makes me want to say? 37 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 6: Damn? 38 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: Which show was your love? Why don't I hear him better? 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: Anyway? Hey, it's Brian Campbell and Luke Thomas back at 40 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: it with you Monday morning. Have a fantastic show ahead 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: with you recapping UFC Denver all things not aboutmmun It's 42 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: probably a very fun card from top to bottom. I 43 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: enjoyed that, Bootsennis making the boxing Philly homecoming. 44 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: I have mixed feelings about that, and a lot of. 45 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: Big spinoff potential coming off of that. And we'll look 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: at the latest UFC Anti trust news, which took a 47 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 3: big turn. We will look ahead to the weekend coming 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 3: up in terms of all things Jake Paul versus Mike 49 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: Perry on pay per View this Saturday, and also a 50 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: check in Lucan Potential, Leaked Maine and Cole Mains for 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: the sphere. This shit's starting to heat up. Okay, we're 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: the best show to break it down for you. 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Yes, BC, how was you weekend? 54 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: Overall? It was? 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: It was really nice. YEA. 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: I took tuk to a new place. I took her 57 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: to sky You've been to sky Zone? 58 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: Is there like a trampoline? 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: Trampoline? 60 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: Both places, while very injury inducing to people our age, 61 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 3: you can end up and have you seen this shit 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: pretty easily? It is. 63 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: It's really fun. It's really fun. 64 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 4: I was blown away at how cool it was. But 65 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: you have to sign a million waivers to get in. 66 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: And then later one of my best friends is also 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: my family attorney. 68 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: Yes, I told him. I was like, hey, I took 69 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: my daughter the guy Zone. He's like, you dumb bastard. 70 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: Apparently that's like the number one place for consumer litigation 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 4: is against either trampoline parks or sky zones. Specifically, I 72 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: will say this, I thought it was cool. I thought 73 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: sky Zone was cool. 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it's cool until some three hundred pound guys 75 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: falling on your daughter. 76 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, it wasn't crowded like that. It was. There 77 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: was kid zone and there was separate but it was 78 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: pretty fun. 79 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: All right. Scheschel shout out to Long Island Luke on 80 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: the ones and twos behind the scenes. 81 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: I think we can hear his voice if he's won. Oh, 82 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: the sky Zone in Booie Maryland. 83 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: You ever been to Booey, Maryland, the Booie Base, home 84 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: of the Boe Bassos. 85 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: That's exactly who it is. 86 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Luke, no Seta is on the horn here? 87 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: What boys are we doing? 88 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: How much did you lose your ass in gambling this week? 89 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: And not at all? 90 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: Actually had a great fucking week. Everyone, Go check out 91 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: the breakdowns. We're up twenty units on the aar killing it. 92 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: On units on the main card. Minute. 93 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: If you and I together had to put our absolute 94 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: putting for brains together and we had to go head 95 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: to head on betting. 96 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: We'd end up at a dead concert and. 97 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: Fantastic, right it was you and me versus Nosita and Gaff. 98 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: How much? How bad would y'all smoke us. 99 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: Uh clean sweep. 100 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 3: Oh wow, all right, I got Shout out to Gaffey Jim, 101 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: that's my guy. Shout out to ken on sound you. 102 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: Love that guy. Got very dark. 103 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: The feet of the future so brighter. There's something going 104 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: on underneath there. That's what I want to find out. 105 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: You can get our merch, but first of all, following 106 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: like following, like right there, thank you very much. On 107 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: our social channels, you can see the merch that both 108 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: of us are wearing. 109 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Here. 110 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: Look, I forgot I owned this Cannibal corpse icon blood 111 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: shirt as Luke Nosia. 112 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: There are a ton of those float around. I have 113 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: more m K shirts than I have literally anything else. 114 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: All right, you can get that jacket at one combat 115 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: Dot store. Tell r j Duncle Gang Bang. We said hi, 116 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: and shout out to average Joe ard on these incredible crossovers. 117 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: Shout out to j Piquette like us, Lukey is home alone. Okay, 118 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: his wife is on the road too. Oh yeah, yeah, 119 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: So we're trying our bad I bet by the way, 120 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 3: I'm a notoriously bad cooker. I've been on fire with 121 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: these meals. 122 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: What did you make yesterday? 123 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: I made pasta with meat balls. Uh so that doesn't 124 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: sound too good. But h I made I made some like, yeah, 125 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: I made some good stuff. 126 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't need to you know, I'll tell you this much. 127 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: A boiler is in town. So I have a boiler 128 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: helping me. 129 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: Does that mean she cooks all the time. 130 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: Like like like a short order cook. Dude, it's ridiculous, Yes. 131 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: Tito, bitch right, we're back. Kimble can't say it bits 132 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: and yeah, hey, hey, shout out to Trump. 133 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: He you know those the most face. I'm a UFC 134 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: fanly lived that photo. 135 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 3: By the way, seriously, do you know where does that 136 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: rank on the all time iconic like photos in American problem? 137 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: So if you go to if you go to oh 138 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: you know what it mmm, it's shut down. But there 139 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: used to be a museum in the city in DC 140 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 4: called the Newseum. Yeah, and they had an exhibit where 141 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: every year it was just all in a row, all 142 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: in a big semi circle. It was all of the 143 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: photos that had won the Pulitzer Prize. The monk in 144 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: I think it was Vietnam sitting there, the Buddhist monk 145 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: and engulfing himself in flames. That's a tough one to beat. 146 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 4: That's a tough one to beat, but certainly it's going 147 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: to be an iconic one. The thing I wanted to say, though, 148 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: was the the gentleman who took that photo. Evan Venucci 149 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: is an MMA fan, and I am not certain about this, 150 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: but I believe he trains out of DC. I believe 151 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: he either trains or has previously trained at Team lud Irvin. 152 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: I don't know you have him on the Luke Thomas 153 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: solo channel. 154 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I talk photo taking. 155 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, to talk to MMA and conspiratorial secret gaps 156 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: in the I. 157 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Think it's quite flat security gaps, So yeah, yeah, there 158 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: you go. Sometimes. 159 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: So that's the intro to the show. I'm sure most 160 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: of you have fast forwarded to this point. But thank 161 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: you to all of our great listeners for always supporting us, 162 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: always having our back. We appreciate you. But Luke, there's 163 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: no better time to start the show. Let's do it 164 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: than right frickin' now. Five topics. Let's lead it off 165 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: right there. What went down Saturday night? Hey, UFC Denver, 166 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: back in front of a live crowd, and I have 167 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: to reiterate once again pretty much start to finish a 168 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: very enjoyable card of fireworks. Maybe not big name power 169 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: across the board, but interesting results that we will break down. 170 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: No bigger than the main event and what's going on 171 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: atop the women's flyweight division, and we knew something was 172 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: going to happen here with rosenami Unis and late replacement 173 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: Tracy Cortes from the idea of pushing one closer to 174 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: a title shop, but maybe dramatically closer based on how 175 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: it went down on well, how it did go down 176 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: was a five round unanimous decision in which Rose namba 177 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: Unis in her second way class really seemed to win 178 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: this with Ease Luke despite somewhat fading in the final 179 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: two rounds. So Luke in totality this performance thirty two 180 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: years old, I've heard people say it was rejuvenative. What 181 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: does this say in your opinion about Rose's dream, which 182 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: she said she wrote down before she ever won the 183 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: strawweight title for the first time, that she would end 184 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: up being a two division champion. How close does this 185 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: put her and what does this say about the viability 186 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: of Rose potentially lifting that flyway stress? 187 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 4: So she put two wins together where I think it 188 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 4: really is the most important part of this story is 189 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: that we now have back to back wins. You're beginning 190 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: to put something in, You're beginning to build something of substance, 191 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: something of note. Okay, So since she debuted in Too 192 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: Flyweight one twenty five, which was in September of two 193 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: thousand and three, she lost him in off eu row. 194 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: With the finger injury, which people don't bring up enough. 195 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: I think fair enough. 196 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 4: She beat Amanda Heboss cleanly, and then she beat Tracy Cortez, 197 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 4: who was filling it on short notice. It should be 198 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: noted cleanly as well. But the thing that had caused 199 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: some issues for her was prior to the Firo fight, 200 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: she had a really terrible Carla A Sparsifi, which was 201 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 4: bad for both people. 202 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: I mean no one for everyone involved. 203 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone involved, Like no one came out of that 204 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 4: situation looking or feeling particularly good about it. I will 205 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: say this two wins now, losing to Fierro, losing to 206 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: Firoroh is not in any way uh disreputable. 207 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: She is a very very tough fight. 208 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: She's very very also difficult to look good against because 209 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: of her prevent. 210 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: Can I add in that Rose dropped her twice and 211 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: I think cut. 212 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: Her right, she did cut her although she did get outstruck. 213 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: I mean, the cutting was not incidental as much as 214 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: it was not really indicative of what was actually broadly happening. 215 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: But the winter for Hebos and the winter for Cortez 216 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: tells me she is certainly as viable at one twenty 217 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 4: five as she has ever been. The thing that I 218 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 4: can't quite figure out about this is did she look good? 219 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: Especially dropping Cortes early, knocking her eyelash off, which was remarkable. 220 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: She also again. 221 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: Faded a little bit down the stretch, but she was 222 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 4: still very competitive in those fourth and fifth rounds. This 223 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: told me that there is certainly more left in the 224 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: tank what I'm left with And I don't really have 225 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 4: an answer. I don't think anybody except them in her 226 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: she and her team do. Which is is she still 227 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: settling into some kind of not just new weight class 228 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 4: but new offensive identity or at least somewhat reshaped offensive identity, 229 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: or is she yes back to her old ways, back 230 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: to a very at her worst, she's still I mean, okay, 231 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 4: the Carlos sporzoft wasn't great, but you know, this is 232 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: a very talented, competent fighter. 233 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 3: Sometimes she's the mother f and best. 234 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. 235 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes there are the times that she dials it. 236 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: Up and she's absolutely zero question about it. 237 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 4: What I guess I'm trying to point out is I 238 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: would give this performance personally solid B plus. Maybe I 239 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: would stop short of a minus, but you could probably 240 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: go that high. That's very very good. That's I mean, 241 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: it was an F against Carlos Sparza, and I would 242 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: give it like a C against Mino Fio, and then 243 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: maybe like an A minus against Hebos and then certainly 244 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 4: a bab B plus a minus in that range. How 245 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 4: much of this is her moving on from Trevor Whitman, 246 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 4: settling into some different ways in which to find her 247 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 4: offense and get a rhythm and an identity about it, 248 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: And how much of this is there was just people 249 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: have slumps, they have injuries, they have good performances, they 250 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 4: have bad performances. She's still basically the same. You're just 251 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 4: now seeing evidence of what we knew at one fifteen 252 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 4: now one twenty five, because she's not fighting the manon 253 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: Feros of the world. 254 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: I can't quite come down answer there. 255 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: Fair question on trying to actually frame what we saw 256 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 3: now I'm admittedly a Row super fan, so that means 257 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna overblow it when things are great, and 258 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get maybe too nervous when things are questionable. 259 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: And I've been questioning exactly who she is and where 260 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: she's at in this division because I think the biggest 261 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 3: thing I didn't love about the Heboss fight doing that 262 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: you gave her sort of an A minus. I would 263 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: invert the grades of this fight. In the Heboss fight, 264 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: the Hebos fighter was concerned she took too much damage, 265 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: almost unnecessary damage on the regular. The thing I loved 266 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: about this performance, although she didn't finish Cortes and some 267 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: people thought there was a window or maybe she could have. 268 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: What I loved most about it was a return to 269 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: the command that she had offensively where it wasn't about 270 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 3: her taking unnecessarily unnecessary firepower back in two way skirmishes. 271 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: It was the movement combined with the crisp striking. I mean, 272 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: I get look, I thought if there was a debate 273 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: whether Tracy Cortes was overrated or underrated, I would have 274 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: leaned overrated. And there's not an indictment against her. I 275 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: just think you know at you look at the basis 276 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: of this match. You we're gonna say, Okay, Rose, far 277 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: too experienced and skilled, has faced better competition. It ended 278 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: up playing out that way, Luke, But I have to say, 279 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: the whole idea is this rejuvenative one hundred percent. She 280 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 3: looked to me like a title contender, Luke. That spark 281 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: was back, the commitment to the footwork was back. It 282 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: was almost as if you would have told me ahead 283 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: of time, Oh, she's back with Trevor Whitman, and here's 284 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: the result. I was said, Okay, look she's back. Now 285 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: Trevor's not in the picture anymore. But maybe to your point, 286 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: she's figuring out how to be comfortable now three fights 287 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: into this division, I get ultimately, and she said it 288 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: herself coming in. She said, the difference between this opponent 289 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: in the original one Macy Barber, is she felt like 290 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: she had a fear Macy Barber's explosiveness more and her 291 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 3: her finishing instincts. The fact that Barber seems is always 292 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: trying to get to the end of that fight, right. 293 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: I do agree that there wasn't the same level of 294 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: threat from Cortes, although she was tough and she never 295 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: gave up and there's some good things you can say 296 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: about what she could take away from this performance. But 297 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: still this showed me that if Rose is dialed in, 298 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 3: I think she really could be anyone in this division, 299 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: and that does include names like Rosso, Chefchenko across the 300 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: board the Farro fight when you look back at that 301 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: she was compromised by the broken finger that happened during 302 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: that fight. It was her first fight in the division 303 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: against a very tough fighter at that point, where Farro's 304 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: just really. 305 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 4: Five one of the most if not the most physical 306 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: fighter in that way. 307 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: And then drops her multiple times. I saw a return 308 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 3: to that that I didn't see that spark in the 309 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 3: Hebots fight Luke. I saw somebody that was kind of 310 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: maybe going through. 311 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: You say she dropped her multiple times, she is credited 312 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: with zero knockdowns in that fight. 313 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna have to go read rewatch that tape. 314 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: So I don't keep spouting this, but I distinctly remember, 315 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 3: maybe I'm maybe I'm confusing times that she wobbled her, 316 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: But look, I can I. 317 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: Distinctly Neo's that's without doubt. 318 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: I guess. Ultimately, look, I saw a return to where 319 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: the boxing was commanding, but also when she commits to 320 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: that footwork level, when she commits to saying I'm not 321 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: going to get hit by you. There's few in the 322 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: world that can stand up to her boxing kickboxing skills. 323 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: Trevor Whitman there or not. So this was a reminder 324 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: and a return to me that at thirty two, there 325 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: still seems to be fire in the belly and the 326 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: If you look across these matchups, like I just said, 327 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: I named all those names atop of this division, I 328 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: think she has avenues to beat all of them if 329 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: she's going to look like this. But it does bring 330 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: it back to your question, did she look like this 331 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: because it was a step down an opponent ultimately and 332 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: unbeaten opponent who was rising right but a last minute. 333 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: Did it get it right? 334 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: Did they align perfectly where not to not to continue 335 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: to link Cortes to brian Otega, but brian O'tega against 336 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: Korean Zombie, for example, made Brian o'tega look like all 337 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: the sins of the past were erased, turned out to 338 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: just be a style matchup right right passing time. I 339 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: wonder if that's the case for Rose. I tend not 340 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: to think so, because whether you believe in the Pat 341 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: Berry theory that you're gonna get three good fights in 342 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: a row out of Rose, and then inevitably she's gonna 343 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 3: find a way to fumble it. Whether that's true or not, 344 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: or that's all superstition. Nobody goes up and down like 345 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: Rose to show you fear and then show you again 346 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: that she's put it back together. I feel it's back together, 347 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: and I think that's a plus for the women's game 348 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: in general in UFC, and I certainly think it's a 349 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: plus to the future of Rose's legacy and what she 350 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 3: can do, because look, I do think she's a threat 351 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: right now at one to twenty five. 352 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: I do want to go for some of the numbers 353 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: because I always feel like these are important and they 354 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 4: shed some light. Remember, the numbers that you see on 355 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: screen during the fight itself are completely unreliable. It doesn't 356 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: mean what I'm saying is that they're always wrong. What 357 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 4: I am saying is they're very conditional. They have to 358 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: make those graphics in real time. And the way that 359 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: the guys at Fight Metric do it thirty twenty seven 360 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: are going to call the company, they have to go 361 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 4: through once and then they have this dial thing that 362 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: they use to go back and forth with the footage 363 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 4: and very carefully count the numbers can change between what 364 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: you see on screen and then the final numbers at 365 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: the end. And to that point BC, Yes, noma Unis 366 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 4: was outstruck numerically in rounds four and five, but not, 367 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: excuse me, just round four, that's it. She outstruck her 368 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 4: around one, round two, again numerically, round three with a 369 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: lot of grappling. 370 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: Obviously, round four Cortes had. 371 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: One more strike than she did, twelve to eleven, and 372 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 4: then in round five noma Unis had twenty eight to 373 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 4: twenty one. So she outstruck her even in the round 374 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 4: that I gave to Cortes, which would be round five. Also, 375 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 4: in any round that noma Unis attempted a takedown, she 376 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: got it right. 377 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: That was the missing half of the analysis that not 378 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: only did she look like her old self on the feet, 379 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: she went into the strength of her opponent and in 380 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: some ways neutralized slash dominated her in that space. I 381 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: don't mean she put on a threat to finish the 382 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: fight on top. I mean she took away the wrestling 383 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: from Cortez's Yeah, she got one of one in round one. 384 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: She got two of two in round three, she got 385 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: one of one in round four, and she got one 386 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 4: of one in round five, and nearly a minute of 387 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: control time in each of those instances or more. This 388 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 4: is what I'm pointing out. This is a high quality fighter. 389 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 4: This is obviously a high quality fighter. This is the 390 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: kind of performance. Could they give her a title shot? 391 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: I think that would be premature given that we still 392 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 4: have an unresolved rivalry between Grosso and Chefchenko. Also, Fiera 393 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: is kind of unfair, so BC to me Rose nam 394 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 4: Unis versus Aaron Blanchfield, sign me up well. 395 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: Rose also mentioned she said I want title shot or 396 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 3: BMF fight, which is interesting because wasn't it just Yuanna 397 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: who mentioned the idea of potentially coming out of retirement. 398 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 3: And although we don't think of Rose as a BMF 399 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: fighter because of how technical she can be, she's been 400 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: in some absolute thumpers, whether it be the technical, high 401 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: speed chess of the rematch with Joanna or how about 402 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: the rematch with Androge which was an absolute blood and 403 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: guts war. I think that is the right fight to make. 404 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: What you just mentioned Rose versus Blanchfield, I I do 405 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: think it's the right fight, But would you be shocked 406 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 3: if we got Rose Joanna three for the BMF Women's 407 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 3: in Auguiro. 408 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: Belt I don't know how much interest to having that. 409 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either, even though I love both fighters, 410 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the right. 411 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 4: I don't feel like right now is the time in 412 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: the women's game where we should be crowning a BMF. 413 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 4: Which isn't to say that there isn't one, or that 414 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: we there aren't ladies of exceptional quality or athletic ability 415 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 4: who would deserve our praise, but. 416 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: The game force is what you're saying. 417 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 4: The women's game right now is suffering. It's not as 418 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 4: there's always been a gap between the men's and the 419 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: women's game. That's always been a case, but that gap 420 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 4: narrowed pretty significantly circle Ronda Rousey's time fourteen, fifteen, twenty sixteen, 421 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 4: and it has widened again. There's a big gap between them, 422 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 4: and that feels. I mean, the BMF title is gimmicky, 423 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 4: but it's a fun gimmick. And now because when Max 424 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 4: did sure, it's a very legitimate gimmick gimmick, but a 425 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 4: legitimate one. Is there demand for wrong with you? 426 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 3: The fact that we have high quality. 427 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: She doesn't. I understand where she would want to know. 428 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: I agree, But the fact that we have to struggle 429 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: to find people that identify as a potential candidate shows 430 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 3: you where we're at. It's not there, it's not time yet. 431 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: I do want to say for Cortes a couple of things. 432 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: If I may, well, can we lead in with a 433 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: video you can react to it. Cortes went through a journey. 434 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 3: It started with her missing weight, although Rose did say afterwards, Luke, 435 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: at the scale in the back room at they have 436 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: you step on as you're about to walk into their 437 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: actual scale, she said, oddly it was a pound off. 438 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: She's right. 439 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 3: So here is Cortes cutting off the hair. We can 440 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: watch him. So, Luke, she went for it, meaning she 441 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 3: was all in on taking this fight on short notice. 442 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: Put her unbeaten streak in the UFC five in a 443 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: row on the line. Then she went to the level 444 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 3: of cutting off the hair to directly go on the scale. 445 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: But she also held the hair when she weighed in. 446 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 3: I'm not a math expert, but. 447 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 4: Like no, no, no, no, she held her She made 448 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: the weight and then they handed her back the hair. 449 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you're you're this is Sarah. 450 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: I mean that wasn't the ceremonial one, but like, well 451 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: it kind of was in the end, but that was 452 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: just for pictures. So remember you weigh in, you make 453 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 4: your weight, and then they tell you to post for 454 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 4: the photo. 455 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm wrong on that area. 456 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 3: The other video I wanted to show you was when 457 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: she did lose the fake eyelash, which Rose would say afterwards, like, 458 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 3: how do you even fight in. 459 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: Those bing bong look? 460 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 3: A lot of people questioning why. 461 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: She would fight in those. 462 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: I mean it is you know, there's a dial element 463 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: to there, but is it functional? 464 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 4: I don't understand what purpose it serves. But Clay Guida 465 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: wore hair in front of his face that made his 466 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: vision bad and people thought it was cool. So I 467 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 4: don't get it. But if I don't think that's why 468 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: she lost. 469 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: Can you rate the Tracy Gortez experience here? This is 470 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: her putting herself on the elite level, rolling the dice. 471 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: What do you take away? I took away that first 472 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: of all. 473 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 4: I thought, this is pretty commendable by her, if I 474 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 4: can be honest, she took it on short notice. I 475 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 4: had deep concerns about her ability to have cardiovascular conditioning 476 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 4: for a five round man event in Denver held up 477 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 4: pretty well. 478 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 3: For the most oddly, Fresher than Rose. 479 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: In the championship rounds, she was the aggressor. 480 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 4: I think Fresher is a little overstated, but certainly the 481 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 4: aggressor in the fifth and I think it's partly played 482 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 4: while she was able to have better offense in that round, 483 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 4: but I thought that she was going to be a 484 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 4: I didn't know it was going to be a disaster, 485 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: but the stuff she was saying didn't fill you with confidence. 486 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 4: But clearly she had good conditioning. Remember she had a 487 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: fight next week coming up. She may have been training 488 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 4: at moderate altitude prior to this, so she was able 489 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 4: to perform in that sense very well. Again, some of 490 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 4: her boxing I thought was pretty good to me. She 491 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: has been too inactive and this was her biggest step up. 492 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 4: There are defensive issues with her boxing that really need 493 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 4: to be addressed, but honestly, if she can tighten some 494 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 4: of that up, there's a lot going right for her game. 495 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 4: There's a lot to like about. 496 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 3: What she condangibles that she seems to have, toughness, cardio, 497 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 3: a winning mindset. My biggest question of her as an 498 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 3: elite fighter is does she Yes, she's a decision machine. 499 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean you're not dangerous. But I don't always 500 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: see the danger of the threat of the finish, either 501 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: on the feet or on the ground. 502 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 4: Hard to see that against Rose. Again, we're talking about 503 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 4: a very high quality fighter here. But I will say 504 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 4: that I think her offense, I think there's a lot 505 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: right about her offense. I think what trips her up 506 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 4: is there's just a lot of work that has to 507 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 4: go into her boxing in terms of weaving in defensive fundamentals. 508 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: By the way, this is a common problem a lot 509 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 4: of very good UFC fighters. This is hardly something specific 510 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 4: to her. You see this pretty significantly, and the ones 511 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: who kind of get past it or find a method 512 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 4: to make it all work, they're the ones that can 513 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 4: really take their game to the next level. She's got 514 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: it seems like BC all the potential. I agree with that, 515 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 4: all the potential. 516 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 3: And to hear her life story, what they did, the 517 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: video package and the connection to her late brother, her 518 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: late mother and all of that, she seems like a 519 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: somebody's easy to chair for an inspirational story that's sort 520 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: of waiting to happen if she can put it all together, 521 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 3: stay active like you're mentioning across there. Look, she was 522 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 3: frustrated in the second half when she was unable to 523 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 3: pin down Rose and hit her, so she tried the 524 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: Max Holloway, can we look back out the Yeah? 525 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: Rose was like, yeah, I'm not buying this. 526 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 3: Rose would say afterwards like hey, you know, like why 527 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 3: you know the obvious, like, why am I I'm not 528 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: about that life? 529 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: Why am I going to do that unnecessarily? Shows are 530 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: her butt? There? You go? 531 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, gave her a little little nadeas turn your back 532 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: to the action, and they ended up showing love about it. 533 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, that wasn't gonna work for her. But does 534 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: she ever get back here to sort of this fight, 535 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 3: which was a possible quasi sneaky potential for number one 536 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 3: contender fight, meaning if she had one decisively over Rose, 537 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: who knows, maybe she would catapult in there for a title. 538 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 4: So what I'm gonna say is it again it's this 539 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 4: was a very tough assignment for Tracy Cortez. She is 540 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 4: clearly a skilled fighter of commendable skill. What I'm gonna 541 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 4: say though, is did I see anything in this performance 542 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: that told me getting back to a spot like this 543 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 4: was inevitable. I don't know if I saw anything that 544 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 4: was necessarily inevitable about this. 545 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: What I did see, though, was and going back to it. 546 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 4: I hope people understand I'm really not trying to challenge 547 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 4: idea that she isn't commendable or talented. 548 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: She is commendable. She is talented. 549 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 4: I absolutely saw BC the potential to get back here. 550 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 4: Does she have the ability to get back to a 551 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: quasi number one contender or potentially even past that, given 552 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 4: her athletic profile and her game and everything else in 553 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 4: her age and whatever experience all that stuff. I absolutely 554 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 4: saw that. I absolutely saw someone who could return to this. 555 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: The choice is hers. It is up to her ultimately 556 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: to foster her own development, to get herself to a 557 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 4: place where she can really iron out some of these things. 558 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, she can iron out some of the defense, 559 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 4: get in, get out. Her head was kind of straight 560 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 4: up the whole time she was there to be hit 561 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: quite a bit. 562 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: The job was a very effect. 563 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: Whenever your opponent does a really good job with their 564 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: job and you lose a fight four rounds to one. Basically, 565 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 4: I think it is incumbent not to feel bad about yourself, 566 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: because again, she took the fight on short notice. But 567 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: it is incumbent upon you to ask how was this 568 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 4: weapon so successful? And how do I not let this 569 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: happen again? And when you really dig into those answers, 570 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 4: I think that's the kind of growth that could take 571 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 4: her to the next level, and she is capable of it. 572 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 4: Whether it will happen, your guess is as good as mine. 573 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 3: I think you're one hundred percent right. And I think 574 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 3: Rose versus Blanchfield that I'm trying to think of a 575 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: fight that's a better option for Rows outside of some 576 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: BMF weirdness, And I think that might be the best 577 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 3: fight because you know, Aaron Blanchfield's going to come back 578 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: better than what she showed against Farrow. We were surprised 579 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: that she seems so one dimensional against Farrow. She'd better 580 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: be building up on that because Rose will pick you 581 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: apart on the feet. But I wonder if Blasfield can 582 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: take her down. I mean Rose's takedown defense Luke has 583 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: been sturdy, but Blansfield's going to take that fight to 584 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: the ground. What could she do with it? 585 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: That's the question we shall see. 586 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be interesting elsewhere on this card I mentioned 587 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: there were I mean, I think there were more than 588 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 3: a few handful of action fights or moments from Drew 589 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: Dover's Crimson masks that were very redeemable in this fight, Luke, 590 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 3: when you look up and down, was there a biggest 591 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 3: surprise or a biggest storyline coming out of this underguard man. 592 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 4: There's a few directions you could go. There's a few 593 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: directions you could go. Number one, the guy who I 594 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 4: had the highest hope for, Josh Van, he lost in 595 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 4: this contest. 596 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: You have footage of him losing if you want to 597 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: see it. 598 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. 599 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: Charles Johnson was down. 600 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 4: Charles Johns, I had him down. I had Van winning 601 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 4: two nothing heading into the third, and then he gets 602 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: hit with this uppercut after the right hand rocked him. So, 603 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 4: first of all, Charles Johnson shouts to this guy took 604 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 4: this fight on short notice. Unbelievable. He was down, He 605 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: never got discouraged. His corner told him to go out 606 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 4: there and fight the urgency in the third and look 607 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 4: at the results. 608 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: He doesn't care about that haircut. If you have that haircut, 609 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 3: you don't care. You don't care. 610 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: You've punted. 611 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, but the reality is this a great a great 612 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 4: win for thirty three year old Charles Johnson and also 613 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 4: BC josh Van was winning that contest. 614 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: I do think he is worthy of the hype. 615 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 4: But obviously after a fight like this, some setback is 616 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 4: going to be, you know, some worth reflecting on. How 617 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 4: about Montel Jackson BC over Demon blackshear in eighteen second 618 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 4: and great commentary by Dominic Cruz in the. 619 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: State continues to be awesome and people hate him and 620 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 3: I don't get it, Luke. 621 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: I guess people don't like he's a little monotone. 622 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 3: Pair him with DC and Anik. That's the trio in DC. 623 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: Do they'd beef? They That's why it's fun, because you 624 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: and I beef and this show still works somehow. 625 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 4: You know, there is some truth of that. So those two, 626 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: there's some other ones we could go down the line. 627 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: By the way, the pronunciation is ange loso. You got 628 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 4: that wrong. I got that wrong. We've got it wrong. 629 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 4: On Friday, Gabriel Bonfiem, I thought looked fine. 630 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: That's not remarkable, good but not great, not spectacular. 631 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 3: He it was sort of him getting the take the training, 632 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: his wheels off getting back on the bike and just 633 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: sort of like, let's get the decision win and get 634 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: out of here. So I didn't love that. 635 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: I'm told I haven't seen it. 636 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 4: I'm totally have a question about Jayon or Jean Silva 637 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: in DM, so we'll get to him. 638 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: But obviously, dude, he rocked the house. 639 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: We'll get how about juicy j Juliana Rossa, who basically 640 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 3: like these guys, came out afterwards and was just like, 641 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: I like to bang, whether it's smart or not, this 642 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 3: is how I fight. Dude. Not only was he exciting, 643 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: but there was like there was an edge to the 644 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 3: way he was was mixing the pressure style with what 645 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: he can do on the ground, and when he was 646 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: able to force that tap out look very impressive. 647 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 4: So if you guys haven't seen that, there's a very 648 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 4: similar finish. Carlos Condit over Carlow Praterer looked almost identical 649 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 4: to this, so you can go look that up. That 650 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 4: was a WEC win for Condit. Prior to his UFC arrival, 651 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: I sit up guillotine, no arm in. Christian Rodriguez was 652 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: looking pretty good for the most part, right, even heard 653 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 4: Dean Thomas compliment the fact that he kept his hands 654 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 4: in Juicy J's face to kind of confuse him, blind 655 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 4: him and get a secondary attack going. And that was 656 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 4: all pretty great, But he just let his guard down 657 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 4: for a moment inside the guard. I remember, because he 658 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 4: gets the reversal, then gets on top, goes into the 659 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 4: guard from a rosa and then gets guillotine for it. 660 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 1: A bit of it. 661 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 4: That was a war. 662 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: That fight, it was a war. I'll say this for Arosade. 663 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 4: He is constantly looking for offense and at times that's 664 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 4: going to get him in trouble because he's going to 665 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 4: just walk into traps. At other times you're going to 666 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 4: walk into his buzzsaw of just offense he's throwing out there. 667 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: Great job behind. 668 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: Said and say there is a category of fighter these days. 669 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to call him BMF light. 670 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to insult anybody that are hair to 671 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: bang Luke. Sometimes they get close to the elite level. 672 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 3: Think of Drew do Drover, or think of Matt Vervola, 673 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: think of Billy Q. Like these guys are just you know, now, 674 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: Juicy J. They're just like, look, this is my addiction. 675 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: I love to entertain you and get into these crazy fights. 676 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: I'm so thankful you want to call these guys TV fighters. 677 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes they take that as an insult. I'm sure every 678 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 3: name I just mentioned is still trying to get to 679 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: that dream goal of get to the title. But these 680 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 3: are the guys we need, Luke, Okay, the guys that 681 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: we that we look at. We know what we're getting 682 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: with them, and they just make fun ass fights. And 683 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: there were a few of them on this card, and 684 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: there were a few crazy moments that hey, I apparently 685 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: the UFC doesn't fully hate meet. I was tweeting my 686 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: excitement Luke for these fights and it showed up on 687 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: the screen. 688 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't put my tweets on to see you 689 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: on the screen. They don't do that. 690 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 3: I also want to mention, but in a losing cause. 691 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 3: Remember I was unaware of what what's that chick from 692 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: Long Island and Luke near you right? Fatima Teama Klein 693 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: didn't know who she was coming in, saw the Todds 694 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: rock close, then find out the backstory of Rose was 695 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: her idol and all that played into that. While this 696 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: is Jasmine Jazz Davissius continuing her assent, she got the win. 697 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: She had hilarious moment afterwards that we'll see and have 698 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: you seen the ship. I was impressed with Fatima Klein 699 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: showing that it's like skip the Danawi Contender series, go 700 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: right to the major leagues, improve you belong in a defeat, 701 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: you know. 702 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: What I mean. 703 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: You love those kind of moral wins when somebody raises 704 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: their game and shows you. 705 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 4: She really struggled with the takedown and then getting up. 706 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 4: I think there might be some physicality issues. Jazzavisius is physical, 707 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: so this isn't necessarily proof that there are physical issues, 708 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: but I do wonder. That's all I'm gonna say, is 709 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 4: wonder good movement on the feet, but a lot of 710 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 4: excess movement, a lot of just kind or to really 711 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 4: heavily changing stances and taking these wide angles and all 712 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 4: the time. I would like to see that a little 713 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 4: bit more paired down. But she's still in single digits 714 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 4: within her fights, like there's so. 715 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: Much room for improvement with her. 716 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: I admire her moxy. I certainly think she has a 717 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 4: very good game. We'll see where it goes from. 718 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: No, no, no, the moxie is the right word, sort of 719 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: that mental toughness that she believes she belonged and that matters. 720 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: Dude, that doesn't matter, matters. That's enough to get the dub. 721 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 3: That's what Seane Mosley Junior told us in the fighter 722 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: beings ahead of that Danny. 723 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: Jacobs's fight who retired, by the way, who retired shout out. 724 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: To Danny Jacobs. We said to Shane, like, what's the 725 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: advice from your dad, the Hall of Famer Shane Moley Senior, 726 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: And he said, he just told me to know that 727 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: I belong and do that matters. That matters sometimes where 728 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: people get to a certain level without having that matters 729 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: for us when we look in the mirror in the morning, 730 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: matters for all of you. Got to believe that you 731 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: belong here, Luke, no matter if you take l's or 732 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: what people say about you. 733 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean, why are you looking at me and smiling 734 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: when you say that? 735 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 3: Because I got inspired and happy? 736 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: All right? 737 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: The last thing I wanted to ask you about this 738 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 3: card and we'll see some of the other fights or 739 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: fighters on. 740 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: Have you seen this shit? 741 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: What do you make of the abdul Razak? I always 742 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: forget that Alhason against Cody Brundage, where now people are 743 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: attacking Cody Brundage on Twitter and saying, man, those elbows 744 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: to the back of the head didn't really connect. One 745 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: definitely connected flush. It seemed to f him up where 746 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 3: he didn't really seem to realize when the doc and 747 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 3: the referee were talking to him, like what would happen 748 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: if would it be a no contest or what? Like 749 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: he hit you could tell he was concussed or hurt, 750 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: but like, should he have continued? Now people are going 751 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 3: after him? They would scream and fight, fight, fight. 752 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 4: In the It's very rare that someone is so badly 753 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 4: hurt visibly that the fans look at it and think, oh, 754 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 4: he definitely can't continue, right. I mean a guy could 755 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 4: have his face falling off and he goes to the doctor. 756 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 4: The doctor's like, yeah, you gotta stop this fucking fight, 757 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: and the. 758 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: Fans are like, booooo, let his face fall off. 759 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 4: So people at home, I understand them being upset that 760 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 4: they didn't get a fight to continue, especially al Haasen 761 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 4: was really pouring on the offense. I have to tell you, though, 762 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: I really have to say this. Could he have continued? 763 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: Maybe? Maybe? 764 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: Like did it look like the most severe beating to 765 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 4: the back of the head I've ever seen, definitely not, But. 766 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: That f's people up sometimes where they just don't Yeah, that's. 767 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 4: What I'm saying, Like I don't know, I genuinely don't know. 768 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 4: Here's what I do know. The referees do nothing about 769 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 4: shots to the back of the head. And remember this 770 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 4: is the second time this has happened with BRUNDI. It 771 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 4: happened in the Jacob Malcom fight as well, and folks like, 772 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 4: oh he does this all the time, guys. If the 773 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 4: referees don't do shit about enforcing shots to the back 774 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: of the head, wherein in different cases where there would 775 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 4: be some kind of other penalty where you would get 776 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 4: a point take in or decued straight up depending on 777 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 4: the rule set or whatever, there's very little of that. 778 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 4: They go to this one like ken you continue, They 779 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 4: just wave it off. Fighters taking advantage of rules that 780 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: favor their situation in a sport where the referees refer 781 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 4: used to do fuck all about these kinds of fouls. 782 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 4: I gotta tell you, does not rub me the wrong 783 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: way at all. Did I love what happened? 784 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 5: No? 785 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 4: But the referees do nothing about ever deterring shit like this. 786 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: For a got to be like, well, yeah, maybe you 787 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: could continue. I just don't want to. 788 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 4: Again, I don't even know if that happened, But if 789 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: that did happen, doesn't bother me in the fucking slightest. 790 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: Put the blame. Put the onus. 791 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 4: Put the focus back on referees enforcing fouls. I pokes, fence, grabs, 792 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 4: shots to the back of the head. 793 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 3: Dude out. I thought a huston was going to attack him. 794 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 3: After when they called off that fight, he was like he. 795 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: Had the And that was other part too, like I 796 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 4: appreciate that Brundage was moving underneath fairly substantially, and that 797 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 4: really can throw up your balance and you're already in motion. 798 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 4: Some of those did hit the back of the head, 799 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 4: and I don't think some of those were intentional. 800 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: I really mean that. I think he was trying to aim. 801 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 4: But I also feel like, if you're just going ham 802 00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 4: on hammerfield, look at me. The pin I'm trying to 803 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 4: make is there's a that entire posture of trying to 804 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 4: finish a guy is almost almost inherently reckless. Like some 805 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 4: of that could have been tightened up by al Hassan, 806 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 4: And I think you can say, oh, Brendan shook the 807 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 4: easy way out. You can make that argument, fine, make 808 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 4: it or don't. I'm not making it, but you can 809 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 4: make it if you want. I'm gonna look down the 810 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 4: way and be like gold to tighten. 811 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: That up a little bit. I mean, try to getting 812 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: out with the back of the brain. 813 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: See how that makes you feel like there's a reason 814 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 3: why that's I mean boxing, do you you? They do 815 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 3: seem to police that very quick. 816 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: And boxing is rightfully boxing. Rabbit punches are much more quickly. 817 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 3: Sure, And that, by the way, is close enough to 818 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 3: the equilibrium area where you get hit sometimes you just 819 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 3: never recover, so you know, no question about it. 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By the way, 853 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 4: Matchroom having a nice little run here. They had the 854 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 4: fight with Liam Paro and Mattias in Puerto Rico, they 855 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 4: had this one. There's another one I'm forgetting as well 856 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,959 Speaker 4: here in the States BC. 857 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: Boots made it look very very easy. The commentary crew 858 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: would by the way, I want to ask you about 859 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: the commentary crew. 860 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 4: But they were very, very filled with praise for Boots. However, 861 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 4: there's something of a bigger question about whether he got 862 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 4: hit too much. But the first question I want to 863 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 4: ask you is, given the size of the crowd and 864 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 4: the fanfare surrounding the event, which there was a significant amount, 865 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 4: how important was Ennis's move to match Room in terms 866 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 4: of taking him to the next level? What did he 867 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 4: prove as a box office draw with this? 868 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: I think he proved a lot. 869 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 3: I mean, that wasn't the twenty three hundred ECW arena 870 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 3: shout out. That was the same arena that the seventy 871 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 3: six ers play at, and it wasn't full. But that's 872 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 3: a show out for considering that he lost his original 873 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 3: opponent Cody Prowber for a year, who wasn't going to 874 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 3: blow people away anyway, even though he was a good fighter, 875 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 3: and it was a sort of a downgrade of an opponent. 876 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 1: But yet, here's what Boots said to himself. 877 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 3: Parents Crawford fought Avenue Seen a year and half ago 878 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 3: and finished him in the sixth round. So I want 879 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: in the fact that he motivated himself to come out 880 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 3: and try to do it faster, told everybody, I'm going 881 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: for the knockout. 882 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: I'm going to get to. 883 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 3: Boots's performance and how he looked in a second. But 884 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 3: I think this marriage with him and Eddie Hearn in 885 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 3: the fact that Herne committed to make this feel so 886 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 3: big Luke. On paper, this really wasn't a great fight. 887 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 3: It was more about seeing Boots come back from a 888 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 3: year away, defend his full IBF title for the first time, 889 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 3: and then kind of see how does he look, where 890 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 3: does he potentially fit in once he can get the 891 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 3: adequate names to get real pomper pound consideration and try 892 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 3: to figure out who's gonna fight next. 893 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: But look, it was like a real homecoming like Terrence. 894 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: Carford in Omaha, where like the local community showed out, 895 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 3: Boots showed out in his performance, and you have to 896 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 3: think about it like this. Even though we saw Boots 897 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: in his last couple years on Showtime, he had Cameron 898 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 3: Duncan who recently passed away, Rip the Great manager who 899 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 3: turned into a promoter as his promoter, and he didn't 900 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 3: sign with Al Hayman in PBC. So even though because 901 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 3: he had the backing of Showtime and Steven Usbnoza who 902 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 3: was high on signing him to the network, even though 903 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 3: we got to see him on Showtime consistently, if he noticed, 904 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 3: he never quite got the big welterweight names which are 905 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 3: under the PBC banner served up to him to have 906 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,959 Speaker 3: a chance to make his name off of He also 907 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 3: had inactivity issues within that, so it's like he was 908 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 3: on Showtime, but he didn't get the golden ticket handshake 909 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 3: of opportunities. Then Cameron Duncan passes away, they do a 910 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 3: buy out with the family and he's a free agent, 911 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 3: and then he goes to mattrom and Eddie Hearn, and 912 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 3: Eddie Hearn's basically like, look what I can potentially give 913 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 3: you if going back to his home city and putting 914 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 3: on a show like that is what he can potentially 915 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 3: give him. This is probably the best move for Boots 916 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 3: and is to get what he deserves, which is the 917 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 3: platform against huge names to show how great he can be. 918 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: And that's why I go back to the performance here, Luke. 919 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: Could you make an argument. 920 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,439 Speaker 3: That he got hit too much? Absolutely, but I think 921 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 3: it was purposeful because think about it, he knows who 922 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 3: he was going to try to call out after he won, 923 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 3: and spoiler alert was Terrence Crawford. And we'll get into that, 924 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 3: but I like that he looked at and said, Okay, 925 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 3: I gotta fight Aveniston, who no one knew what we 926 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 3: were gonna get with him. He's like thirty five. We've 927 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 3: seen him lose when he steps up to the highest level. 928 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 3: It turns out Avene him, to his credit, was tough 929 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 3: as nails and literally kept trying to fight until his 930 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 3: face broke, until the corner had to save him from himself. 931 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 3: But look the fact that Boots, who is skills wise, 932 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: poump for pound worthy, just doesn't have the resume yet. 933 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 3: The fact that he committed to welcome any and all 934 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 3: punishment in order to put on a show for the 935 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 3: home fans in order to announce to everybody that after 936 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 3: a year off, I'm back and I'm back with a bang, 937 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 3: and I'm ready to take on everybody. Look the fact 938 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 3: that he was willing to sit in that pocket, take 939 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: whatever Aveneson had, which turned out to be sneaky and 940 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 3: some veteran shots that he landed flush and still delivered 941 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 3: a breath taking brutally efficient like there was never a 942 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 3: point in that fight where Boots wasn't extremely dangerous and 943 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 3: trying to end it with the fact with the switching 944 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 3: of stances and these flurries of punches in these angles, 945 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 3: it's very, very very rare in this game that we 946 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 3: say Roy Jones esque. We said it about Tao Fema 947 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 3: on his rise. There were elements of that performance last 948 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 3: night that were plus level Roy Jones' next level, from 949 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 3: the athleticism to the creativity of the shots. I love 950 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 3: that he was given the platform to kind of paint 951 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 3: this masterpiece. It was going to be what it was 952 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 3: against Avenesan, but it turned out for entertainment wise, Avenesan 953 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 3: stepped up. So what a Boots to do? Met him 954 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 3: in the middle, because you know, Avenesten strategy is to 955 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 3: put pressure, get in your grill, and just keep backing 956 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 3: you up. Boots met that pressure and was almost virtuoso 957 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 3: in how we put the offenses together to end it. 958 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 3: Could the argument that they took too many shots, Well 959 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 3: how about this, Luke. Not everybody's wired the same way. 960 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 3: But the same people are going to criticize Shaquer Stevenson 961 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 3: per Se. 962 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're wrong about this. 963 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 3: The same people are going to criticize for shaquerse Stevenson 964 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 3: for not taking chances when you're in against the guy 965 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 3: that you should do that against. But Boots said, you 966 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 3: know what, I'll take on the chances. I'll sit in 967 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 3: there and I'll show you how great I am. I'm 968 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 3: not saying Shakur is wrong because everybody's wired differently. Shakur 969 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 3: is a defensive fighter at his base. 970 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: Boots is not. 971 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 3: Boots can be a great boxer when he wants to. 972 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 3: He's got the whole game. But the fact that he 973 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 3: wanted to entertain as much as get that guy out 974 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 3: of there and show what he's capable of to advertise 975 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 3: to the future, I actually thought across the board, even 976 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 3: with the shots he took, it was an a level 977 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 3: performance and an a level presentation of what they were 978 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 3: trying to do with that. Push him to the masses 979 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 3: and show him what he's got. Look, he has the game. 980 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 3: He could have won that, in my opinion, boxing in 981 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 3: a boring way easily, but instead he dug in to 982 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 3: show what he can do offensively, and I think he 983 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 3: was better off for it. Tell me why I'm wrong, though, 984 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 3: because I I justify the shots he took because he 985 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 3: was willing to do what Chakourt, for comparison example, was 986 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 3: willing to do and got the criticism. 987 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 4: That is certainly true that he I mean he shir 988 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 4: Kurt was standing in front of him, but not really 989 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 4: throwing as much, whereas Boose was just constantly throwing at him. 990 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 4: And to your point, look at the final shot that 991 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 4: dropped him. Wasn't the final one, but close to the end, 992 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 4: he gets hit with I believe he has his hand down. 993 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 4: He throws an uppercut. He gets hit right here with 994 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 4: the right and then comes right over the top of 995 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 4: right over the top of it. 996 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 1: So he knows if you're gonna get hit, the opening 997 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: over the top of it is going to be there. 998 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: He just sort of accepted that. 999 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 4: By the way, Terrence Crawford did that in one of 1000 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 4: his knockdowns against Errol Spence. I'm not suggesting to you 1001 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 4: they are kittling knockdowns. I'm simply saying at times boxers 1002 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 4: will take calculated risks, often against the ropes about accepting 1003 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 4: punishment from an opponent who either is available to be 1004 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 4: hit out of position. This is one such example. Also 1005 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 4: of note, there were fourteen, nine hundred and thirty people there. 1006 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,439 Speaker 4: That's the biggest crowd for a fight in Philadelphia since 1007 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 4: Marvin Hagler's win over Benny Briscoe back in nineteen seventy eight. 1008 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 4: Six years there was we saw Boots fight royman Villa 1009 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 4: in Atlantic City and we were wondering, like, why isn't 1010 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 4: this guy back in Philly. Well, here, dude, I give 1011 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 4: a lot of credit to Eddie Hearn taking Boots back 1012 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 4: to Philly in this way that in the in the 1013 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 4: in like let's build Jeron Ennis, I was a home run. 1014 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 3: I was a home run Stevens into that stable. Eddie 1015 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 3: Hearn's gonna be on fire. 1016 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 4: But I think there's a couple of things that people 1017 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 4: are missing about the performance that are fair. People are 1018 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 4: fair to point out. I've seen this argument that like, well, 1019 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 4: make up your mind, fans, you're mad at schaquiv for 1020 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 4: not doing enough, and now you're saying Boots gets hit 1021 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 4: too much. Y'all don't know what you want. No, No, 1022 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 4: I know what I want. I know what I want. 1023 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 4: It is entirely reasonable to say, independent of one another, 1024 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 4: should shaquor Stevenson have done at least something more offensively, 1025 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 4: at least in terms of judging him by fan appeal 1026 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 4: of the style of fighting. 1027 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: Sure? 1028 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 4: Uh, is it fair to say that the things people 1029 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 4: are saying about Boots Roy Jones future generational great? You 1030 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 4: can't say those things about a guy and then he 1031 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 4: gets hit this much. Now, I mentioned something to you 1032 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 4: at the beginning of this point, which was the commentary 1033 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 4: crew was kind of funny to me. There's a moment 1034 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 4: there where Chris mannis brings up the inactivity and you 1035 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 4: notice that there's this big swath of fights that he 1036 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 4: gets in like a short amount of time, and then 1037 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 4: more recently it's been much more sporadic. And they're like, no, 1038 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 4: it's not that, it's a totally different reason, it's got 1039 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 4: nothing to do with it. Then after the fight, Boots 1040 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 4: is like, yeah, the ring rust was. He did say 1041 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 4: that he was a bit of a problem, So shouts 1042 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 4: to Chris Mannix, who was one hundred percent right about that. 1043 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: This is my point. 1044 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 4: I think that for a first fight back against this 1045 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 4: kind of an opponent, where Boots probably did not feel 1046 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 4: he was super threatened, he was willing to take on 1047 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 4: a little bit more punishment, which was not a huge amount, 1048 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 4: but more than you would have expected given the rhetoric 1049 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 4: around him, to facilitate the finish. But if you go 1050 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 4: back to other fights he's had, there have been a 1051 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 4: number of instances where they land on him cleanly. Now 1052 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 4: he finishes those guys off, because obviously Boots is a 1053 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 4: ridiculous talent. The concern is not what it meant for 1054 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 4: the Avenesian fight. The concern is, well, now they're talking 1055 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 4: about Turkey alask getting involved to make a fight with 1056 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 4: Bud Crawford. You are not allowed to have that kind 1057 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 4: of a permissive attitude of your opponent landing on you. 1058 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 4: Against an opponent of that calibni, he's like that. The 1059 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 4: problem is this is not a one off. The Avenesian 1060 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 4: fight is not an aberration of what the catalog shows. 1061 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 4: It is a continuation in part because he can't get 1062 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 4: the good fight. 1063 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 1: He can't get quality fighters to face off with him. 1064 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 4: It's not his fault in that sense, right, You won't 1065 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 4: really show what class you really are until you get 1066 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 4: somebody who is like really forcing an out of you. 1067 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 4: And those guys all left one forty seven. I don't 1068 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 4: blame Boots. I'm not even saying Boots can't win. I 1069 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 4: have been a big believer in Boots. I remain a 1070 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 4: big believer in Boots. What I'm pointing out is you're 1071 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 4: talking about a guy like he's Roy Jones junior. You 1072 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 4: have to do Roy Jones juniors shit for that. 1073 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 3: To match Offensively, he looked Roy esque relatively. 1074 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: Roy was not getting hit in as well, was never 1075 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: getting hit. 1076 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 3: I just think that Boots committed to it because of 1077 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 3: the idea of I'm going to show the home I'm 1078 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 3: going to show the home fans with the big crowd. 1079 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to show everybody there's my debut on his 1080 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 3: own on match Room, and I'm going to try to 1081 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 3: best what Terrence Crawford did in knocking out Evanisen in 1082 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 3: the sixth round. So I just think he committed to 1083 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 3: it to be exciting. I don't think he's going to 1084 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 3: take as many risks against Terrence Crawford. Now does that 1085 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 3: mean that he's good, you know, don't mean that at 1086 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 3: this point we can be confident that he has the 1087 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 3: skills to be in that fight. I'm not sure yet. 1088 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's hard, That's the thing. 1089 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 3: I say. He's got flashes upon for pobbability, but he 1090 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 3: just doesn't have the opponents to be able to prove 1091 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 3: that or show it to us. I think this was 1092 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 3: more situational. I get the fear though, But maybe Luke 1093 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 3: just maybe that the way he's sort of the dial 1094 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 3: is leaning. Maybe he's just more offensive in general, and 1095 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 3: that's going to make him more dynamic in fights and 1096 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 3: more entertaining, and is also going to expose him more. 1097 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 3: But maybe like a narrow Spence who we saw against 1098 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 3: Mike Arcia box circles around him and not get hit. 1099 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 3: We also saw that when he commits offensively to being himself, 1100 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 3: him getting hit is going to be a part of it. 1101 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 3: Gnati Glufkin's the same way that guy got hit a 1102 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,479 Speaker 3: lot of times too, but it was can you also 1103 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 3: can you take the heat of his power? I don't 1104 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 3: think Boots has that level power. But I will say this. 1105 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 3: They said it right on the screen and you can 1106 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 3: see Boots is a massive welterweight. He does have the 1107 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 3: type of back where you're like, okay, I can imagine 1108 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,919 Speaker 3: him at fifty four to sixty. Mannix said that they're 1109 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 3: willing to go as high at sixty eight. I can 1110 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 3: imagine all that. But let's enjoy for whatever it's going 1111 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: to look like, or however long it's going to be 1112 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 3: him as a welterweight, because I don't know if he's 1113 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 3: gonna be able to carry his power up the same 1114 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 3: way and be the same level puncher. We see so many. 1115 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: Fighters do this. 1116 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 3: As they get up, their power eventually levels out and 1117 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 3: they have to be more of a boxer or what 1118 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 3: have you. I don't know, but who he is right 1119 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 3: now is a welterweight, and for however many big fights 1120 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 3: he has left here or that he can get before 1121 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 3: having to move up, he is spectaced and a destroyer 1122 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 3: on an extreme level that I hope. And even though 1123 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 3: we can make an argument that the weltsweight division is 1124 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 3: suddenly was the money sex pay per view division is 1125 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 3: now suddenly kind of void of talent because all the 1126 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 3: names that we really wanted to see are suddenly outside 1127 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 3: of this division. It's comparable in my eyes to somebody 1128 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 3: like Sugar Shane Mosley, who ends up in the Hall 1129 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 3: of Fame because of his greatness, and he rose all 1130 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 3: the way up to fifty four, right, And when you're 1131 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 3: talking about the bulk of the career that made Shane 1132 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer, you're obviously going to talk about 1133 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 3: the welterweight win over Oscar in two thousand and their 1134 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 3: first fight. You're gonna talk about those type of fights 1135 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 3: where for a window he was in the argument of 1136 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 3: pump for Pond number one. But the real hardcorese know 1137 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 3: that when you're talking about what was the actual greatest 1138 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 3: version of Shane Moseley, it was the eighth eight fight 1139 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 3: run at White Way. It was where he flashed and 1140 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 3: he looked like arguably the greatest lightweight. I would never 1141 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,919 Speaker 3: say that in light of Duran, but obviously he looked 1142 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 3: arguably like one of the greatest lightweights of all time, 1143 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 3: and he was a destroyer. Sometimes guys have that window 1144 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 3: as they're rising. I don't know ultimately if Boots will 1145 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 3: be the same fighter as he rises up, but for 1146 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 3: right now, He is going to be fun against anyone, 1147 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,240 Speaker 3: and he is going to be dangerous as hell against anyone, 1148 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 3: whether he ends up welcoming too much the room for 1149 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 3: too much punishment or not. I think he has that 1150 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 3: go get it in him like Spence has, although it 1151 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 3: didn't work against Bud because Bud was transcendent like somebody 1152 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 3: like Sugar Ray Leonard had. Right now, the young guys 1153 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 3: not only want it, Luke, from the standpoint of wanting 1154 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 3: the big fights. Now, these young American fighters, and I 1155 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 3: put American on the tag because it just seems to 1156 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 3: be that the fighters from other countries never have this problem, Luke, Right, 1157 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. The Russian fighters, like the 1158 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 3: fighters from a lot of different countries, never have this problem. 1159 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 3: They want to smoke all Now, the young stars want 1160 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 3: the smoke, but they also want the not Torkuur. But 1161 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 3: the rest of them seem to also want to mix 1162 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 3: it up and win these biggest fights, the fighting fights 1163 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 3: of their career the old fashioned way, Luke, by going 1164 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 3: through people. I just think that's who Boots is. 1165 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 4: I'll say this. We have both been high on Boots. 1166 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 4: I remain very high on Boots. Obviously he's already world champion. 1167 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 4: I think he'll get collect another belt, potentially another weight class, 1168 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 4: potentially even more than that. He is a significant and 1169 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 4: pronounced talent. What I'm trying to get people to understand 1170 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 4: is I can understand in this particular fight again Avenesian 1171 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 4: on short notice, I can understand he did make it 1172 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 4: clearly that final sequence is he's making a decision to 1173 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 4: accept punishment in certain ways to create openings, and bah, 1174 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 4: he's got it. I think a lot of people are 1175 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 4: pointing to that and saying it was a conscious choice. 1176 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 4: In this context, that is true some of the broader tape, 1177 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 4: and this is why it's a little in conclusive, because 1178 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 4: those guys don't last under his firepower either. This is 1179 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 4: not the first time that has happened, and which you 1180 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 4: have to maybe accept and we don't know sure, is 1181 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 4: that it's actually just part of his style and the 1182 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 4: way he fights. 1183 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: And if that is true, that will cost him later. 1184 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 4: It won't cost him against the Aveneesians, but it will 1185 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 4: definitely cost him against the Crawfords. It could cost him 1186 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 4: against someone else at fifty. 1187 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 3: Four or show the Turkey tweet, because suddenly this Crawford 1188 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 3: conversation got real but I do want to investigate it. 1189 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 3: So Turkey ala chik tweets after Boots on the post 1190 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,879 Speaker 3: fight interview with Mannix did say I want to fight 1191 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 3: Crawford next. I just reached out to boxer Jaron Ennison 1192 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 3: Eddie heurn to congratulate them. 1193 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: I'd love to see a fight for Jaron. 1194 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 3: Some people, yeah, Jeron Jaren, I mean yeah, Tomato, Tomatow, Luke. 1195 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 3: The whole point is Turkey has the checkbook, he wants 1196 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 3: to make it. But we're gonna see Crawford against Israel 1197 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 3: Madromov for a one to fifty four title on August third, Luke. 1198 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 3: Some people think, I mean, you gotta be out realistic her. 1199 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 3: Crawford hasn't foughten over what a year, and he's also 1200 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 3: what like thirty six, So Crawford's window of huge fights 1201 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 3: is going to be small. I don't know if the 1202 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 3: Canelo fight will happen. Do you think Terrence Crawford can 1203 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 3: be paid enough to accept this? Would he want to 1204 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 3: accept this? Do you think Terrence Crawford watched that fight 1205 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 3: and sees the same things you do, yeah, and says 1206 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 3: to himself, Okay, the kid's flashy. But I know what 1207 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 3: I'm doing. If Turkey puts the puts it on the table, 1208 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,359 Speaker 3: do we actually see it this fight? 1209 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: So to me, Turkey's interest in this kind of tells 1210 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 1: me the Canelo window has closed. Canello doesn't want it. 1211 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 1: Let's be honest about. 1212 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 4: The Jannello doesn't want a tough fight. And so I 1213 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 4: think that was what Bud wanted primarily. If that is 1214 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 4: off the table and if Turkey is going to pay 1215 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 4: big money for it, the answer is yes, he do it. 1216 00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 1: I do believe that. 1217 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 3: Well, I want to ask how much it moves your needle, 1218 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 3: And I am talking about your needle, luke, or your noodle, 1219 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, to the idea of 1220 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 3: potentially putting this not an English soccer stadium, weird, but 1221 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 3: like a Philly ballpark. Now, I'm not saying if Crawford 1222 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 3: versus Ennis ever happened, that somehow Ennis would get a 1223 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 3: side privileges and this would be in like the Philadelphia. 1224 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 1: Phillies baseball stadium. 1225 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 3: But here's Eddie Hearn talking about his own needle to 1226 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 3: that prospect. 1227 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not thought about that. I mean him 1228 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: versus Boots at the ballpark, even versus Crawford at the 1229 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 1: boot ballpark from me. I mean his table's about to 1230 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: jump jump up in a minute. That just got me 1231 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: really excited. Oh no, no, did it? 1232 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 3: This is the dumbest catch, Luke. I don't think that 1233 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,919 Speaker 3: would happen. But if Turkey backs up the truck. Because 1234 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 3: Crawford is a prize fighter, that's why he thought evanis 1235 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 3: That's why he took that money with what's marv nation 1236 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,439 Speaker 3: Like we all ripped him for not taking the Spence 1237 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,320 Speaker 3: K whatever. I don't even remember what that was in hindsight. 1238 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 3: But he is a he is a big game hunter. 1239 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 3: Crawford in terms of five, I would believe that he 1240 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 3: looks at Boots and says, Okay, he might eventually get there. 1241 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 3: But maybe he's not there now. Maybe I do fight him. 1242 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. If he doesn't fight him, though, is 1243 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 3: there a fight at forty seven you actually care about. 1244 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,240 Speaker 3: The big names that could cross over, in my opinion, 1245 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 3: are Haney if he moves up. Some people think he 1246 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 3: can't make one forty already and he is aligned on 1247 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 3: that side of the street. 1248 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: If that still matters. 1249 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 3: Teo Fimo, who wants to fight Crawford of fifty four 1250 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 3: wants to move up, or the lingering guys that are 1251 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,399 Speaker 3: still in the secondary title range at walterweight, the mean machines, the. 1252 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: What about Virgil Ortiz or what about at fifty four? 1253 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 3: You're right, but he is a dezone fighter. Yeah, and 1254 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 3: Tim Zoo as well. 1255 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: What about Erol Spence Junior. Well, we'll see how he 1256 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 1: looks in his next I don't know. 1257 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 3: I wonder if him never signing with Hyman, do you 1258 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 3: think PBC never never puts up one of their big 1259 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 3: guns against. 1260 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: Boots, you would know better about the box. It's interesting. 1261 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that answer. 1262 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm getting excited though, I'm getting very excited about it. 1263 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 4: Like I said, I think under those two can do. 1264 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 4: Canelo's off the table and Turkey backs up the truck. 1265 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 4: I think he takes it genuinely. 1266 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: He dude. 1267 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 4: He took a fight against Israel Madromov, Like obviously that's 1268 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 4: easier fight to win the probably than the Boots fight. 1269 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 4: But it's not like he has to have a name 1270 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 4: opponent every time, or and Boots is certainly getting you 1271 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 4: know what I mean, like another pay per view star, 1272 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 4: which Boots is not yet. 1273 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 3: Right, So all right, let's transition out of topic. Number 1274 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 3: three and this suddenly we thought it was over, but 1275 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 3: it's back. Shout out to the online reporting, of course 1276 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 3: of guys like Josh Gross and john S. Nash. Josh 1277 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 3: Gross was, by the way, on the scene in the 1278 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 3: courtroom it went down. This week Luk, a US district 1279 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:36,240 Speaker 3: judge has rebuked the UFC and the Anti Trust class 1280 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 3: certification a lot of big words here, denying approval for 1281 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 3: what we thought was already a done deal, the anti 1282 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 3: trust settlement with those hundreds of fighters who put their 1283 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 3: name on the line in the Kung Lee. But look, 1284 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 3: there seems to be a dispute here between the Kung 1285 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 3: Lee one and what the Johnson trial. 1286 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: Yes, we don't exactly, so let me let me chet 1287 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 1: it up to you. 1288 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 3: It appears the major concern here from Judge Richard Bulwer, 1289 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 3: according to the reporting from Josh Gross, is that the 1290 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 3: settlement prevents UFC fighters from ever challenging the promotions monopoly 1291 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,240 Speaker 3: based on the new contracts. 1292 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: We already knew that assigned waivers to not participate in 1293 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: class action lawsuits. 1294 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 3: So now it looks like we actually could go to 1295 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 3: trial and where are potentially open up and that settlement 1296 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 3: won't stand so how much should UFC brass be concerned 1297 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 3: about their own financial future when and as it applies 1298 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 3: to free agency and everything else. If the doors get 1299 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,360 Speaker 3: opened up of the vault and all the secrets come out, well. 1300 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: All a lot of the evidence is already out. 1301 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,760 Speaker 4: You just have to go through it. But it's pretty unequivocal. 1302 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 4: Here is my best assessment of it. Now we're waiting 1303 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 4: on further word from Bullwear about what he is going 1304 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 4: to rule or say here and why he's going to 1305 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 4: say it, and we don't really know it. So I 1306 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 4: think there is some level of analysis here we have 1307 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 4: to kind of leave alone, even though I would love 1308 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 4: to speculate, but we'll leave part of that alone for 1309 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 4: folks who may not understand. You kind of laid it 1310 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 4: out here. Basically what happened is and the plaintiffs, those 1311 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 4: are the fighters. They came to an agreement for three 1312 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 4: hundred and thirty five million dollars plus some contractable changes 1313 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 4: that had happened along the way. They took that agreement 1314 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 4: to judge, and any kind of class action lawsuit, any 1315 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,240 Speaker 4: kind of agreement between parties, the judge has to agree 1316 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 4: to it. 1317 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: He did not. 1318 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 4: He sent them back and they changed some of the 1319 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 4: way in which payouts went between the two classes and 1320 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 4: a couple of other things. Took that back to the judge, 1321 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 4: and this is the one you're referencing. He said, fuck, no, 1322 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 4: there's no way I'm accepting this. And now we're waiting 1323 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 4: to hear what it is are his major objections. We 1324 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 4: don't really know, and so we're still. 1325 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 3: Mature to the idea of like, wow, this is definitely 1326 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 3: going back to trial. 1327 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 4: So here are two possibilities that are going to happen. 1328 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 4: It's basically only these two. One, the plaintiffs and the 1329 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 4: UFC get back to the negotiating table and they reached 1330 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 4: some kind of settlement, both from a monetary figure and 1331 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 4: probably some contractual changes that allow the judge to say, Okay, 1332 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 4: you failed the first couple of times with the negotiated 1333 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,280 Speaker 4: settlement that I found acceptable. This one is better signing 1334 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 4: off done deal. The other possibility is they go and 1335 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 4: try to find another negotiated settlement and the judge is like, no, 1336 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 4: we're not even in the ballpark of okay, this is 1337 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 4: going back to trial now. Neither party, if I can 1338 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 4: be clear, wants to go to trial. The plaintiffs don't 1339 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 4: want to go to trial, and the UFC doesn't want 1340 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 4: to go to trial because it could take It could 1341 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 4: be you could get nothing or everything with something. 1342 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 3: Between the ideals of the Johnson and the Lee lawsuit, 1343 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 3: one's after money. One seems to be after change in 1344 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 3: the industry. 1345 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: That's correct. Here's what I think their UFC is up against. 1346 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 4: You had Dana White on Fox News last week being like, 1347 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 4: people say we're a monopoly. 1348 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 1: No, we're just better. Well, the judge in Nevada disagrees. 1349 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 4: He disagrees, sobubstantially disagrees. He in fact thinks there are 1350 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 4: numerous barriers to entry and BC. This is ultimately what 1351 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 4: is plaguing them. It is quite clear that this judge 1352 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 4: views the UFC as. 1353 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: An illegal monopoly. That's it. They He views it as 1354 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 1: a monopoly. 1355 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 4: And so my thought process is if they don't come 1356 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 4: to some kind of settlement that challenges that, I don't 1357 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 4: know if he's actually going to approve it. Right, if 1358 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 4: they just come and say, you know what, We're gonna 1359 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 4: pay you three hundred and thirty five million US half 1360 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 4: a billion dollars sound, he might be like, right, that's 1361 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 4: a nice amount of money. It's an it's a better 1362 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 4: amount of money, but you're still an illegal monopoly. He 1363 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 4: clearly believes they are an illegal monopoly. I bring this 1364 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 4: all up to SABC. Here's what's kind of interesting, and 1365 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 4: this is where the rubber meets the road on all 1366 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 4: of this. The UFC is either now or very soon 1367 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 4: about to start their television renegotiation and understand something. This 1368 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 4: is the number one way that they make money is 1369 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 4: through guaranteed revenue from media rights deals, both domestically and 1370 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 4: then globally as well. 1371 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 3: Which is why they they said f COVID were pushing through. 1372 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 3: We're pushing meet that minute. 1373 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 4: So if you don't have enough of those events happening, 1374 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 4: you don't get the money that you're code from ESPN. 1375 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: Now, ESPN might resign them, they might go to Netflix, 1376 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 1: to Amazon. Who But here's what I do know. 1377 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 4: It's going to be several billions of dollars, probably maybe 1378 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,479 Speaker 4: even ten billion or more, depending on what the deal 1379 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 4: looks like, an extraordinary amount of money. Can you imagine 1380 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 4: BC about trying to negotiate that deal in the middle 1381 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 4: of an ongoing antitrust trial. I would imagine that would 1382 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 4: spook potential broadcast partners from either doing business with you 1383 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 4: at all or certainly at the price tag that you 1384 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 4: might be asking. 1385 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 1: And so the. 1386 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 4: UFC obviously has a huge incentive to get this settled, 1387 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 4: to put more money in, more money and potentially some 1388 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 4: contractual changes. But if the judge ultimately is convinced that 1389 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 4: this is an illegal monopoly, short changing fighters and ruining 1390 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 4: the sport, or at least damaging it and limiting it, 1391 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 4: it might not matter how much money is actually offered 1392 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 4: if there are no real contract, actual changes. 1393 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 1: So that's why I'm like, Ooh, I don't know what's 1394 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: going to happen in here. This just got a lot 1395 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 1: more interesting. 1396 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 3: We throw to the Josh Gross tweet he was in 1397 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 3: the courtroom. This is the first of a long thread. 1398 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,919 Speaker 3: I encourage you to look at it, where he mentioned 1399 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 3: Judge Bolwer not granting preliminary approval. Josh would go on 1400 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 3: to say, by the way, that there's several areas of 1401 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 3: concern from bull where and that it seemed to Josh 1402 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 3: that they're leaning toward denying the deal and moving to 1403 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 3: a jury trial. I want to point out one of 1404 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 3: those concerns that Josh mentioned. The attorney Eric Kramer, who 1405 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 3: represents both the Lee and Johnson lawsuit. It's all in 1406 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 3: house there. He shared concerns during this about the friendship 1407 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 3: between Dana White and Donald Trump, from the idea that 1408 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 3: if this thing goes to trial ultimately even to the 1409 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 3: Supreme Court, that they believe if Donald Trump is president 1410 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 3: at that point, I think that shooting scare on Saturday. Luke, 1411 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 3: Oh boy, what do you got? Is this you want 1412 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 3: to jump in? 1413 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 1: Is no? Go ahead? Finish? Okay, Luke. 1414 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 3: The side of the UH of both of those lawsuits 1415 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 3: believe that's a potential issue. From the idea that Trump's 1416 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 3: influence could sign with the UFC. Is that a legitimate 1417 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 3: concern if this thing should go to trial, because we've 1418 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 3: never seen sports and politics like this deeply connected, at 1419 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 3: least on an American level. Right. 1420 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 4: Well, it's weird because if he was president and there 1421 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 4: was any kind of legislation that happened through Congress, I 1422 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 4: think Trump will probably veto it, right, you know, likely 1423 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 4: like if there was an ALI Act? Would Trump signed 1424 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 4: an ALI Act? If Dana White was in his ear 1425 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 4: about how bad it was for his business? I suspect not. 1426 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 4: One never knows, but I suspect not. The Supreme Court 1427 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 4: wants a little bit more interesting because they could appeal 1428 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 4: their way all the way there. And then you're kind 1429 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 4: of speculating because these are Trump appointees. I mean, they're 1430 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 4: certainly pro corporate, but they do buck the pro they 1431 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 4: do buck what Trump wants at times, so that's a 1432 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 4: little more speculative. But what they're trying to point out 1433 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 4: is we don't want to go to trial. There are 1434 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 4: all number of ways in which this is much better 1435 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 4: for us than some kind of future potential outcome where 1436 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 4: he could go to the Supreme Court and get vetoed 1437 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 4: or some other kind of political influence, ultimately burying this 1438 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 4: when we have a negotiated self. That's what they're trying 1439 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 4: to indicate to the judge. They don't want to really 1440 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 4: go down this line, but this is what I mean. Ultimately, 1441 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 4: if the judge thinks it's an illegal monopoly, all bets 1442 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 4: are off. We will wait to hear what he has 1443 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 4: to say. Maybe it's just a monetary settlement going up. 1444 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 4: Maybe one word answer. 1445 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 3: Do you understand the fighters wanting to settle and saying, hey, 1446 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 3: it's cool if the business can fix itself down the line, 1447 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 3: but right now, I got to pay my bills, and 1448 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 3: I got these lingering health issues and I have no 1449 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 3: money to show for it. 1450 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: I do, I do understand. 1451 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 4: I think it's ultimately very disappointing how all of this 1452 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 4: has played out and relative to the expectations. But I 1453 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 4: understand at this point going to trial, I mean, the 1454 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 4: reality of going to trial is this. 1455 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,439 Speaker 1: You could end up with billions of. 1456 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 4: Dollars and contractual changes that absolutely reform the industry. Or 1457 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 4: you could end up with a jury trial getting not 1458 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 4: a penny, nothing, zero. 1459 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 1: That's a risk, that's a real risk. So you went 1460 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,920 Speaker 1: through all this for nothing, So I understand. 1461 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 4: But the issue here is the judge took so there's 1462 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 4: a lot of complicatedly the judge took so long to 1463 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 4: rule previously on a different matter, and then that ended 1464 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 4: up having to split the cases to the lead case 1465 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 4: into the Johnson case. And that's what's causing some of 1466 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 4: this conflict, is that one is good for monetary damage 1467 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 4: as one is not, and they're trying to He's trying 1468 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 4: to solve both problems at once, but you can't, at 1469 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 4: least not very simply. Hence we're back here. 1470 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 3: It's a big price and selfish fear as both fan 1471 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 3: and journalists, is that this does go to trial, and 1472 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 3: when we're already in a year or an era where 1473 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 3: matchmaking is pretty damn watered down. It's the Apex era. 1474 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 3: We talk about this every freaking week. Does it get 1475 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 3: worse if we're headed to a trial and they are 1476 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 3: trying to retain more funds just in case. I mean, 1477 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, Luke. Could that lead to an even 1478 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 3: poorer era of this product? I mean, when WW went 1479 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 3: through that steroid trial, not an equal comparison by any means. 1480 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 3: It also happened during a time when pro wrestling and 1481 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 3: general just hit the toilet. They didn't have the financial means. 1482 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 3: They nearly hit the bottom. There, you have seen a 1483 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 3: much different position. But I can't see the product improving 1484 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 3: if shit is going chaos behind the scenes. 1485 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 4: Again, I don't think the people who own the UFC 1486 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 4: are really they care about the concerns you're addressing. 1487 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 3: Ain't always says this lawsuit doesn't affect us. 1488 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 1: It's not my it doesn't right now. 1489 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 4: That's true. If it continues to go forward, it definitely will. 1490 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 4: All right here wants the breaking news. This comes to 1491 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 4: us from Damon Martin. By the way, no see that 1492 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,880 Speaker 4: we need a breaking news alert or something. Yeah, you 1493 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 4: say that, did you get the hip hop? 1494 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 1: It's out of my control, Luke. You know it's a 1495 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 1: person above that can't be named. But you know we 1496 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 1: got to. 1497 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 3: Ask a lot of secrets and behind the scenes at 1498 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 3: MK right there. 1499 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 4: Regards UFC heavyweight champion, John Jones has been formally charged 1500 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 4: with two misdemeanor to misdemeanor excuse me, involving the case 1501 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 4: you might remember previously with the drug testing agents who 1502 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 4: visited his home in March. Jones has vehemently denied the allegations. 1503 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 4: He'll have his next court hearing a scheduled for July seventeenth. 1504 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 4: I don't think this involves any kind of signifesting legal penalty, 1505 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 4: but my man's been charged with some crimes again, So 1506 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 4: have fun. 1507 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 3: There we go, There you go, And this segment has 1508 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 3: been brought to you by nineteen Crimes, the red wine. 1509 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 1: You need to drink, all right, b C. 1510 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 4: Let's talk about what we found out over the weekend. Now, 1511 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,320 Speaker 4: when we say found out, we don't really know what 1512 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 4: we found out, but we can tell you what we saw. 1513 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 4: We have video to throw to we can tell you 1514 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 4: what we saw the UFC's French Canadian broadcast, the one 1515 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,440 Speaker 4: that was airing Quebec, appeared to spoil who was going 1516 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 4: to be on the UFCCHA headliners. This was, of course 1517 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 4: during the UFC Denver Car that this kind of came out. 1518 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 4: I want to throw it to the video about who's 1519 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 4: going to be on it, but BC, given what they say, 1520 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 4: rate this, you know what, let me hold the car, 1521 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 4: let me hold the question. Let's take a look at 1522 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 4: what they said and who they said was going to 1523 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 4: be on this card. 1524 01:05:52,120 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 1: UFC and the Las Vegas that de kid pull buckle favers. 1525 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 1: I'll see ida pull yak mas all away pull. 1526 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah you alwa. 1527 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 1: See shadow. 1528 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 4: Those translations brought to you by our own French Canadian bamble. 1529 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 3: Was this an inside job caused by me and my 1530 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:21,920 Speaker 3: French Canadians? 1531 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,440 Speaker 4: We see rate the UFC Sphere card on a scale 1532 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 4: of one to ten. If it means and other I 1533 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 4: should say, if it turns out that it is to 1534 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,720 Speaker 4: pour your holloway and O'Malley morob at the top of 1535 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 4: the marquee. 1536 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,320 Speaker 3: Uh remember what Eddie Hern said about the table rising 1537 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,120 Speaker 3: up ten out of freaking ten to the level Luke 1538 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 3: while this certainly does lack a lot of Mexican noche 1539 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:44,800 Speaker 3: flair in terms of the fighters. 1540 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 1: You mean, any I will say this, what have. 1541 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 3: I been complaining about? Like I want the buzz. I 1542 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 3: want to get it so excited. You know, you just 1543 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 3: want what you feel like you're missing these days where 1544 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 3: it's just been very watered down. Luke, if they told 1545 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 3: us that this will be a two fight pay per 1546 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 3: view card, there will be no undercard, and we are 1547 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 3: raising the price for us these spear to pay to 1548 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 3: pay for it, right because they already seem to be 1549 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 3: eighteen million or more in on trying to make these 1550 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 3: video screens feel like that dead concert bade us feel. Look, 1551 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,479 Speaker 3: I only need these two fights, and I'd be willing 1552 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 3: to pay one hundred to one hundred and twenty five 1553 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,200 Speaker 3: dollars of my actual money to see them. These are 1554 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 3: ten out of ten, blockbuster critical, two of the best 1555 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 3: fight fights you can make in the sport right now, 1556 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 3: and if they are going to put them on the 1557 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,920 Speaker 3: same night. As much as I complain about how this 1558 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 3: calendar year has featured these big moments of three hundred 1559 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 3: and these can't miss ones and then a deep valley 1560 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 3: in between, if they really want to do what they've 1561 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,440 Speaker 3: promised and data said a million times, you want to 1562 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 3: make this sphere with it, which is a one off 1563 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,680 Speaker 3: because of the price, be the biggest, most unique event 1564 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 3: in combat sports. Luke, this is this is how you 1565 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 3: match make it. This is ten out of freaking ten. 1566 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 3: This is Ball's bonanza. These two fights freaking rule. You 1567 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 3: want to see me stop getting critical about UFC week 1568 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 3: to week this type of aggressive matchmaking. Even if you 1569 01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 3: have to rob Peter to pay Paul for the next 1570 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:03,320 Speaker 3: twelve usc APEX events, I still might suspend my disbelief 1571 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 3: in where that could go, because, Luke, these fights freaking 1572 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 3: bang brother. 1573 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, here's the obvious part. There's not a 1574 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 4: single thing bad about either of those fights. 1575 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 1: Those are two. 1576 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 4: First of all, Holloway versus Daporia is basically the best 1577 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,559 Speaker 4: fight you can make an NIMA right now. There's some 1578 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 4: debate about that, but it's probably. 1579 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,679 Speaker 1: Or Jones Aspirinal. They're in the same conversation. 1580 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 4: We're talking about the most coveted fights you can make, 1581 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 4: right So that's that one. I would also say, I 1582 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 4: don't have I don't think O'Malley versus Morab is on 1583 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 4: that level. However, however, also a very coveted fight and 1584 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,559 Speaker 4: one you would really want to see in a hot 1585 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 4: division at one hundred and thirty five pounds. 1586 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to. 1587 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 4: Make here is BC, there's nothing bad about it. There's 1588 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 4: no fat on that whatsoever. 1589 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,840 Speaker 1: What what? What? 1590 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 3: What is this? 1591 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 1: What does that? What does that? 1592 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 3: You look like a middle aged white dad trying to 1593 01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 3: sing nineties rap lyrics. This is a story all about 1594 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 3: what the fuck. 1595 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: Does that have to do with the Mexican heritage and fighting? 1596 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 5: Well? 1597 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 1: What does? 1598 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 3: What does not cha? Brought to you by Riodd Season? 1599 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,519 Speaker 4: This is what I'm asking, like, is this the Michael 1600 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 4: Chandler Black History Month of fight cards? 1601 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:15,840 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 1602 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 4: It's like, we're gonna celebrate I can think of nothing 1603 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 4: that no better way to celebrate Black history than to 1604 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 4: and to ask a white guy about it. 1605 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 3: To celebrate Pride Month, We're gonna show you showgun hu 1606 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 3: a highlights. 1607 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 5: You know. 1608 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,600 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, rules, yeah. 1609 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that the card is bad. The card 1610 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,840 Speaker 4: is quite obviously if By the way, there has been 1611 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:40,320 Speaker 4: some denial of this since this report or this thing leaked, 1612 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 4: there's been some folks denying it. Obviously, the fights are 1613 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 4: like super high quality, and I'm not even complaining about 1614 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 4: them being in the sphere per se, because that experience 1615 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 4: is probably going to rule like nothing about that is bad. 1616 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,360 Speaker 4: I guess I just don't understand riodd season brings you 1617 01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,760 Speaker 4: UFC Notecha brings you two fights at the top of 1618 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,960 Speaker 4: the car, the most important, two fights at the top 1619 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 4: of the card. 1620 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 1: None of it has anything to do with Mexican heritage. 1621 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll have tacos on, so just to be fair. 1622 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I'm just saying this. I'm not Mexican, 1623 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 4: so I ultimately like, let's ask them how they feel 1624 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,280 Speaker 4: and we'll see what they Probably. 1625 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,320 Speaker 3: That's not true, but I mean, it is possible that 1626 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,640 Speaker 3: a broadcaster would have potentially possible that they would have 1627 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 3: access to. 1628 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 1: That hidden information that. 1629 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,160 Speaker 3: Has yet to be put out right, What do you mean, 1630 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 3: Like it could be a mistake that this broadcaster saw 1631 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,720 Speaker 3: something that wasn't But it leads me to believe that 1632 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 3: he accidentally saw a propriety information that was yet that 1633 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to be put forward, and he read it 1634 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 3: like it was fact. 1635 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 4: But that was the problem, Like the UC might be 1636 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,439 Speaker 4: deciding do we put it here? Do we not put 1637 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 4: it here? Like it's obvious that it's probably been under consideration, 1638 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 4: but I don't know if it has come to completion. Again, dude, 1639 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 4: if they put these fights on the sphere, two thumbs 1640 01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 4: up for me. I'm just wondering, why are we calling 1641 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 4: a UFC No, just call us six? 1642 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 3: What if only one is correct and the other fight 1643 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 3: would be Grosso Chevchenko three? 1644 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,439 Speaker 1: I think that's fine either. Iteration still holds up if 1645 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:10,759 Speaker 1: you put that fight with it again. 1646 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 4: Still a little weird you're putting a Spaniard in there, 1647 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 4: because again Mexican Independence Day from whom? 1648 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,479 Speaker 1: Oh but but but. 1649 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,840 Speaker 3: Again, can we rewind that one? 1650 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,679 Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to make his BC. Yeah, I'm 1651 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 1: not knocking the fights. I'm not knocking the event. It's great. 1652 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,839 Speaker 4: Can't wait to see it. You know, it'll be awesome. 1653 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,040 Speaker 4: I guess I just don't understand the labeling. I don't 1654 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 4: understand the labeling. That's the part that I don't get. 1655 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 4: But if they have what the hell? If they have 1656 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,599 Speaker 4: a title, why why do I sound like I'm. 1657 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,560 Speaker 1: Here we go that better? Okay? Maybe? Yeah? 1658 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 3: Well, Toporia did celeb. I'm sure he celebrated Spain's soccer 1659 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,679 Speaker 3: when yesterday Luke over England. I have this proprietory video 1660 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 3: of Oscar Willis h taking his uh taking his shirt 1661 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 3: off during England's loss. Guy, it didn't come yeah like that. 1662 01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,600 Speaker 3: That guy's dude, Oscar will Us Now look, he is 1663 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,719 Speaker 3: a rascal, but he's my favorite rascal. 1664 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,679 Speaker 4: I gotta tell you. Watching all the Brits suffer yesterday 1665 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,479 Speaker 4: was it was enjoyable. 1666 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 3: I see you have gone so hard in the paint 1667 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,559 Speaker 3: on Ilio nods. 1668 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:21,559 Speaker 1: Did you see all of the Scots killing the English 1669 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter? Yet you don't fall a soccer Do you 1670 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 1: send me all these soccer clips? 1671 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 3: These don't matter to me. 1672 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what I got news for you. 1673 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,800 Speaker 4: Most of the world hates England and wanted them to lose. 1674 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 4: I just just just the soccer community more broadly, I'm sorry, 1675 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,160 Speaker 4: and they probably deserve it. Anybody here a soccer fan, 1676 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:43,320 Speaker 4: anybody anybody soccer I watched. I watched the game yesterday, 1677 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 4: but none of us Wan English are not sympathetic to 1678 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 4: the world community. Let me assure you. 1679 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,000 Speaker 3: But okay, I was going to say, because you you 1680 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 3: know you've made the idea of flatio and you know 1681 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,800 Speaker 3: a regular thing that you know, I was you make 1682 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 3: me cheer against Spain and just so you can't have 1683 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:01,759 Speaker 3: that moment. 1684 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But I'm. 1685 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,680 Speaker 3: Not the only one who's been calling out to Poria 1686 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,439 Speaker 3: of late or questioning your man love for him under 1687 01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,719 Speaker 3: the guise of like, is he doing is he acting 1688 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 3: in the way he should after beating Volkanovski and trying 1689 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,120 Speaker 3: to get back you know Robbie Fox from Barsenol, right, 1690 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 3: I do, yeah, Hey, let's listen to this. 1691 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 7: Everything Alia Taporia has done since winning the title has 1692 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,240 Speaker 7: been so annoying. The way he's handled Max, the way 1693 01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 7: he's handled the BMF title, the way he's just a 1694 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 7: Connor McGregor. I'm up at baby now and he's just 1695 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:29,679 Speaker 7: trying to be Conor McGregor at every turn. 1696 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,439 Speaker 1: Fight Max and get on with it. 1697 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,640 Speaker 4: I don't disagree with Yeah, I think, uh, this is 1698 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 4: all I love Robbie by the way, shouts to Robbie, 1699 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,120 Speaker 4: who's the man, one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. 1700 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,639 Speaker 3: I know it's like you wanted to try to find 1701 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:40,720 Speaker 3: a way to hate him, and then you meet him. 1702 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 4: I cannot hate Robbie, it's not possible. However, he is 1703 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,639 Speaker 4: profoundly wrong about this. You guys just don't mean. Yes, 1704 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 4: he has been. We've talked about this before. He has 1705 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 4: certainly been a little bit what was the word we 1706 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 4: used previously an. 1707 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,920 Speaker 3: Outspoken fan, rob No, no, no, no, no no, talk about Tipporrio. 1708 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,799 Speaker 4: He's been like he's been annoying, Like the self importance 1709 01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 4: and everything has been really annoying. 1710 01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:59,759 Speaker 3: He's put out his post thinking himself. 1711 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,639 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean that's really weird. That's super fucking weird. However, 1712 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,360 Speaker 1: he fights on about as regular schedule as other UFC champions. 1713 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 1: You guys don't like them, partly because of that, also 1714 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,400 Speaker 1: because he beat one of your favorite fighters. Like to me, 1715 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 1: I just find it. Yeah, I'll leave it alone at that. 1716 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 1: I I like, here's here's here's my bias. Yes, I 1717 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 1: like watching good fighters. I don't like watching fighters who 1718 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,040 Speaker 1: I find pleasant on social media. I like ones who 1719 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 1: are fucking awesome in the cage door shuts and he 1720 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 1: fills that requirement out not. 1721 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,680 Speaker 3: Loosely related, I don't. I forgot to add it to 1722 01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,960 Speaker 3: have you seen this ship? But speaking of Spain, did 1723 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 3: you see that there was a YouTube boxing event over 1724 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:39,519 Speaker 3: the weekend in Spain. 1725 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 1: Four million concurrent viewers on. 1726 01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:49,720 Speaker 3: To the stadium. Looked like a WrestleMania and they had 1727 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 3: Will Smith among others, perform, and then one of the 1728 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,719 Speaker 3: boxers came in with a messy what was a messy 1729 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,200 Speaker 3: jersey from Barcelona jersey in the rival Madrid stadium and 1730 01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 3: held it up like a wrestling heel move. 1731 01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: Yes, I can't believe. 1732 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 3: Like I was shocked when the first Logan Paul Ksi 1733 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 3: fight in London, like sold all those pay per views 1734 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 3: and filled in the arena. I'm shocked that they filled 1735 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:11,559 Speaker 3: this many people for YouTube boxing. 1736 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,439 Speaker 4: This this is my point, Like, I mean, maybe this 1737 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,760 Speaker 4: guy is way more popular than Eliot ta Poia, but 1738 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:20,360 Speaker 4: Iliot Taporia plus the UFC machine, why couldn't they do 1739 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 4: that right the appetite. Here's the funny part. Like England 1740 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 4: in terms of the European markets, was was a first 1741 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,400 Speaker 4: mover in MMA. Obviously you go back to Ian the 1742 01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,760 Speaker 4: Machine Freeman and so many other great English fighters. They 1743 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,360 Speaker 4: were kind of first and they're still gonna be a 1744 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:40,240 Speaker 4: very important prominent market for the foreseeable future. But the 1745 01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 4: lingering markets, the France's, the Germany's, the Spains. They were 1746 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,400 Speaker 4: not big features in the last ten years in Mma, 1747 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,479 Speaker 4: but I think BC they're gonna be huge in the 1748 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,320 Speaker 4: next ten. The appetite for this stuff in these markets 1749 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,280 Speaker 4: is enormous and they can put on a show. 1750 01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:58,080 Speaker 1: Let's see it. 1751 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,479 Speaker 3: I want to see If Max versus Ilia is not 1752 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,280 Speaker 3: in the sphere, I want to see it either in 1753 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 3: a stadium in the States or that exact setup that 1754 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,560 Speaker 3: you're talking about stadium in Spain. Can you have to 1755 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:12,840 Speaker 3: just get to the stadium portion of their promotional career 1756 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 3: because I feel like there's a lot of money to 1757 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:15,040 Speaker 3: be had there. 1758 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 4: And also, like, dude, I remember watching the GSPFI with 1759 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 4: Jake Shields in Toronto. 1760 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 3: Right which that Rogers that description, which was. 1761 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,400 Speaker 4: Like one of these shows that when you see it, 1762 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,600 Speaker 4: it just will forever be in your memory because of 1763 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 4: how different. 1764 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 3: There's a communal element to that where it doesn't matter 1765 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,800 Speaker 3: if if you're three hundred yards away up there, it's 1766 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,040 Speaker 3: it's the same thing of seeing the stones at Giants 1767 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,559 Speaker 3: Stadium or something. There's this communal element of like we're 1768 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 3: here together for this moment, only not like seeing the 1769 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,559 Speaker 3: old s stones it's a historic moment. I mean you 1770 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 3: kind of had that people had read Okamota who you 1771 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,600 Speaker 3: you know, always always reference just follow things. When I 1772 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 3: bring the guys name, I had to just say ex co. 1773 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 1: Worker that I really like. Okay. 1774 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,880 Speaker 3: Turns out so Luke, he always marvels at being in 1775 01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,759 Speaker 3: that stadium that they made. 1776 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,360 Speaker 1: What Marvel didn't they make Marvel Stadium. 1777 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,599 Speaker 3: For that a venor when it was Strousey versus Home 1778 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 3: and just that that moment where he was to. 1779 01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that's quite I don't think it's just 1780 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:10,040 Speaker 1: for that. 1781 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,679 Speaker 3: Okay, but that that set the attendance record at the time, 1782 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,679 Speaker 3: and it was like one of those shifting cultural sport moments. 1783 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,759 Speaker 3: I want fans to have that on the regular. 1784 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? 1785 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:21,760 Speaker 3: Like, I want, like, why aren't we going to Legion 1786 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,479 Speaker 3: Stadium when it's right next door? I know? 1787 01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:23,800 Speaker 5: Is it? 1788 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 1: It? Does? 1789 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:24,200 Speaker 7: It? 1790 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Is? 1791 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 3: It? Does? It only center on Dana's belief that you 1792 01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,720 Speaker 3: don't have that same experience as a fan when it's 1793 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 3: when it's that So. 1794 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 4: The issue I think that is the biggest one is 1795 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,160 Speaker 4: partly that there is you know, they're doing the sphere 1796 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:40,360 Speaker 4: so sphear Sphere show. So it's not totally credible to 1797 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,439 Speaker 4: say that they lack imagination, but I do think that 1798 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 4: it's like they don't have the kind of will to 1799 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 4: do stadium shows and the kind of regular way that 1800 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,600 Speaker 4: we would like them. They could probably do it, but 1801 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,600 Speaker 4: they just seem reluctant. The other thing is that I 1802 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,639 Speaker 4: think it's a bigger one is you can put these 1803 01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 4: like these Russian Muslim fighters in these Middle Eastern countries. 1804 01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,040 Speaker 4: They're going to be well received there, and you can 1805 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,479 Speaker 4: still do well on paper. To Poria, to Robbie Fox's point, 1806 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,320 Speaker 4: has not converted the fan base into treating him. 1807 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 1: Like a big pay per view star. 1808 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 4: Obviously he's very good and everyone respects his ability, but 1809 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:10,840 Speaker 4: there's not that component. 1810 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,599 Speaker 1: So it's one thing to take a Hbib to Abu Dhabi. 1811 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,599 Speaker 4: It's one thing to take Islam to pick a place 1812 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,719 Speaker 4: out there you wear, Yes, you have a different time zone, 1813 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,679 Speaker 4: but you've got a much bigger pay per view star. 1814 01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,840 Speaker 4: To Poria doesn't quite solve that problem yet. So well, 1815 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,240 Speaker 4: let's see if he beats Max, Like, for example, maybe 1816 01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,599 Speaker 4: you think Max is gonna win, maybe he will. Under 1817 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:34,280 Speaker 4: the repositing a world where Let's say Ilia does what 1818 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:35,679 Speaker 4: he says he's going to do, which is the first 1819 01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,759 Speaker 4: person to put Max's lights out. That would be big. 1820 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:40,920 Speaker 4: That would be big. That's the kind of thing he 1821 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,760 Speaker 4: has to do to elevate himself. I think to the 1822 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 4: kind of place where the UFC would even consider a 1823 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:45,880 Speaker 4: time zer changing. 1824 01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,240 Speaker 3: It's one fight and people are already trying to say 1825 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,000 Speaker 3: he's going to be the next Cody Garburn who has this, 1826 01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,160 Speaker 3: you know, career defining performance and then never lives up 1827 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,240 Speaker 3: to it again for whatever reasons. I hope not just 1828 01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:55,680 Speaker 3: for the sake of the sport. Ryeah, I don't think 1829 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,599 Speaker 3: all the for Max against you. Topic number five though, 1830 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,200 Speaker 3: loaded show as we can take you. Hey, it's Jake 1831 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 3: Paul versus Mike Perry pay per View fight week on 1832 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:08,560 Speaker 3: his own Saturday from Tampa, Florida. Mike Tyson out rescheduled 1833 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:13,160 Speaker 3: to November. So Jake Paul and all tense tents and purposes. 1834 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,080 Speaker 1: Or whatever that's intents and purposes. 1835 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 3: Fray says, is going to take on the danger of 1836 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 3: bare knuckle pay per view star Mike Perry. So Luke 1837 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,080 Speaker 3: outside of that narrative of Jake Paul needing to win 1838 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,360 Speaker 3: in theory to preserve that can't miss Netflix super fight 1839 01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,719 Speaker 3: with Tyson. What is tangibly at stake in your opinion 1840 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,599 Speaker 3: for both fighters in this fight in terms of their 1841 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,040 Speaker 3: respective combat careers, which come from different backgrounds, but suddenly 1842 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,759 Speaker 3: they're at the apex here of the celebrity crossover bubble. 1843 01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:47,960 Speaker 4: So it really only depends on two different outcomes. So 1844 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,800 Speaker 4: in the event that Jake Paul wins and now Mike 1845 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,400 Speaker 4: Perry loses, there's nothing at stake. It doesn't meaningfully add anything. 1846 01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,840 Speaker 4: It would put somebody finally on his resume that was 1847 01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:02,720 Speaker 4: thirty two versus thirty seven versus forty something, But in 1848 01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,759 Speaker 4: the end, it doesn't really change his stock, it doesn't 1849 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,599 Speaker 4: change his future. It is a marketing opportunity to promote 1850 01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 4: his Netflix fight against Mike Tyson in October. 1851 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 1: I think that's November November, so that's really all that's 1852 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 1: on the line there. 1853 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:17,840 Speaker 4: And if Mike Perry loses, you're like, right, well, he's 1854 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,280 Speaker 4: not a boxer, and we all are familiar with the 1855 01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,600 Speaker 4: Jake Paul experience. He got some marketing, he can go 1856 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,639 Speaker 4: back to be AKFC, no harm, no foul. I don't 1857 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,720 Speaker 4: really think it means anything at all under that circumstance, 1858 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:31,680 Speaker 4: it's the reverse. So needless to say, if Jake Paul 1859 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,559 Speaker 4: were to lose to Mike Perry, let's talk about the 1860 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:35,400 Speaker 4: Mike Perry angle. 1861 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:36,719 Speaker 1: First. 1862 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,439 Speaker 4: Ben Askrin couldn't do it, Tyron Woodley couldn't do it 1863 01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,679 Speaker 4: two times, Anderson Silva couldn't do it. Nate Diaz couldn't 1864 01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 4: do it. Mike Perry would be the one. Mike Perry 1865 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 4: would be the one. And by the way, uh, what's 1866 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,479 Speaker 4: his face? The Fury brother Tommy Fury couldn't do it either. 1867 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,479 Speaker 4: Not an NME fighter, but certainly a pro boxer for 1868 01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,639 Speaker 4: whatever that is worth. Mike Perry would be the one 1869 01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,200 Speaker 4: to upend the apple cart. We're talked about the guy's 1870 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,880 Speaker 4: ascension since even the UFC and getting wins over tough 1871 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,280 Speaker 4: guys and tough circumstances like gritting out a win over MVP. 1872 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,440 Speaker 4: This would be the crowning achievement of all crowning achievements, 1873 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,960 Speaker 4: in part because he's going to a sport that he 1874 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,880 Speaker 4: doesn't really have a full background in and it's kind 1875 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:14,799 Speaker 4: of a setup fight. 1876 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 1: For the A side. To be quite candid with you, 1877 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,760 Speaker 1: because of the size difference, largely. 1878 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,559 Speaker 4: Yes, and size difference. So I mean this is designed 1879 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 4: for Jake Paul to win. That's what this is so like. 1880 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 4: It's not Mike Perry winning is not supposed to happen, 1881 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,000 Speaker 4: but if it does, it would be the most remarkable 1882 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 4: turn for a guy leaving the UFC that you might 1883 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:37,320 Speaker 4: ever see. Concurrently, when Jake Paul loses under that circumstance, 1884 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,920 Speaker 4: this is a disaster for him. You would lose to 1885 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,200 Speaker 4: a guy you are roundly expected to beat. To the 1886 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,240 Speaker 4: point we just raised with circumstances, the win that you're 1887 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,120 Speaker 4: back with size, with experience. This is supposed to be 1888 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,120 Speaker 4: a tune up for the Mike Tyson thing, a marketing opportunity, 1889 01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,080 Speaker 4: a stay busy fight for the Mike Tyson thing. That 1890 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,240 Speaker 4: would create jeopardy for that particular contest. He would almost 1891 01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,960 Speaker 4: certainly have to do rematch. If he did, it would 1892 01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:06,040 Speaker 4: be disaster for Jake Paul. That's what he's up against 1893 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 4: here on Saturday. 1894 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,840 Speaker 3: It would make because there is a pro wrestling feel 1895 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,080 Speaker 3: at times in the way that these fights get promoted 1896 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,320 Speaker 3: and sort of play out with the craziness. It would 1897 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:18,280 Speaker 3: be the ultimate completion of the most unlikely babyface turn 1898 01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,559 Speaker 3: in combat. Sports history. Like, let's not forget that Mike 1899 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,720 Speaker 3: Perry left the UFC largely because he was kind of cut, right, 1900 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:25,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I know that. 1901 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:26,760 Speaker 1: We try to reframe that sometimes. 1902 01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,280 Speaker 3: As he was a free agent and walked off and 1903 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,800 Speaker 3: went to another deal, but like his stock as a 1904 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,920 Speaker 3: fighter was very low at that point when he left UFC, 1905 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 3: his stock reputation wise was non existent, meaning we tend 1906 01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,000 Speaker 3: to we tended down the stretch Looke to watch him 1907 01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,439 Speaker 3: for the car accident, side of the road variety Dude, 1908 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 3: he would walk into restaurants on camera and knock out 1909 01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 3: old dudes for talking smack like he was a different 1910 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:49,280 Speaker 3: level of crazy. 1911 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,160 Speaker 1: Luke, he's almost wholesome to the level where. 1912 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,880 Speaker 3: He's not wholesome, but like he's got a family life. 1913 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,920 Speaker 3: We cheer for him in that regard. Dude, if he 1914 01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 3: did this for his career and was able to flip it. 1915 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,439 Speaker 3: It's why when this fight announced, we said, how would 1916 01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,160 Speaker 3: you even escalate the call out if you knocked out 1917 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:04,559 Speaker 3: Jake Paul. I mean, it probably have to be Connor 1918 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 3: McGregor or nothing, because that's how big this would be. 1919 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,800 Speaker 3: But speaking of big and the size, that's what's holding 1920 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,040 Speaker 3: a lot of people up. So let's recap. Mike Perry 1921 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,280 Speaker 3: fought largely at one seventy as m MA career wasn't 1922 01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,120 Speaker 3: considered really large for that division, right, Luke, it's been 1923 01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,680 Speaker 3: boxing at one eighty five because or BKFC at one 1924 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,400 Speaker 3: eighty five because largely his ability with the bare knuckles 1925 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,760 Speaker 3: and his relentlessness to get inside and make it difficult. 1926 01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,000 Speaker 1: For bigger guys like Luke rock Hold. 1927 01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,000 Speaker 3: Jake Paul was training Luke to be a heavyweight against 1928 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,879 Speaker 3: Mike Tyson was walking around well above two hundred pounds. 1929 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,000 Speaker 3: This fight will be at two hundred pounds. Mike was 1930 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 3: on fight Hub TV with our guy Marcos Viejes Viejas Luke. 1931 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,680 Speaker 3: Marcos Marcos Viegan loved that guy, by the way, a 1932 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:45,719 Speaker 3: veteran in this game. 1933 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,280 Speaker 1: And the talk was about Jake Paul slimming down Luke, 1934 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,120 Speaker 1: and the talk turned to your favorite category in sports 1935 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,160 Speaker 1: and topic performance enhancing drugs. 1936 01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:54,960 Speaker 3: Let's listen in. 1937 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,799 Speaker 1: You questioned Jake's wait. 1938 01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 6: N Ie bart him a couple of years ago. I 1939 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:04,040 Speaker 6: was one seven and he was one ninety five maybe 1940 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:04,840 Speaker 6: two o five. 1941 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:05,720 Speaker 1: To put on. 1942 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,559 Speaker 6: Twenty five pounds, I don't know how someone does it, 1943 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:13,440 Speaker 6: I guess without. 1944 01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:17,719 Speaker 1: A cheat code, some extra some extra stuff, some extra 1945 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:18,800 Speaker 1: sauce in those. 1946 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,720 Speaker 6: It doesn't matter though it doesn't matter to me. Maybe 1947 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,080 Speaker 6: you know, I could just be saying that just to 1948 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:31,439 Speaker 6: mess with up. He does look flubbery and you know whatever. 1949 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,320 Speaker 6: And I also told him, I don't think you were 1950 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:37,519 Speaker 6: two thirty because if he was to two oh five 1951 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,599 Speaker 6: in those couple of years ago when I squared him, 1952 01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,080 Speaker 6: I think maybe at largest he could get up to 1953 01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:44,320 Speaker 6: almost to twenty. 1954 01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,120 Speaker 3: Mike is not concerned about the size difference. But was 1955 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,720 Speaker 3: he inferring that Jacoson is a little bit saucy right now? 1956 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:51,240 Speaker 1: He was? 1957 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:55,280 Speaker 3: He was lightly suggesting, all right, look what we see 1958 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,360 Speaker 3: fight wee kaijingks, what are your expectations this week? 1959 01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be the Jerry Springer Show. I mean right, 1960 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,920 Speaker 4: I'm not even saying that like a bad thing. It's 1961 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,120 Speaker 4: just that's what it's gonna be. It's what it's gonna be. 1962 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:09,120 Speaker 1: So I'm expecting a lot of homophobic slurs. Okay, we 1963 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:10,200 Speaker 1: happen to have a clip of that. 1964 01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,479 Speaker 3: If you missed his appearance with Jake on the MMA 1965 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 3: or a couple of weeks back. This is what you 1966 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:14,400 Speaker 3: might expect me. 1967 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,519 Speaker 1: I won't get out of your face. There's nothing you 1968 01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,920 Speaker 1: can do about it. I'm in there all night long. 1969 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,519 Speaker 3: You're gonna get married like that? 1970 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,760 Speaker 5: Get all up in there, bro. I do, yes, I do, Bro. 1971 01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 5: I want to be married. I want to be entangled 1972 01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,559 Speaker 5: with you forever. I'll even hit you a little reach 1973 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:36,360 Speaker 5: around brother, if you want that. Yeah, yeah, I like 1974 01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,080 Speaker 5: that because I'm ready to go all the way. You 1975 01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,000 Speaker 5: say your hands are bisexual, My hands are all types 1976 01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:46,439 Speaker 5: of sexual. Trisexual, bisexual. Ax. We need to get it 1977 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,760 Speaker 5: any way you want, any way you want. 1978 01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:50,840 Speaker 1: Let's get married. Bro. 1979 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 5: Get up all in my face, and I kind of 1980 01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:54,640 Speaker 5: like if you put your out to my mouth and 1981 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:55,519 Speaker 5: I'm gonna lie. 1982 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,240 Speaker 6: We already signed the papers and it's already written. 1983 01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean, what are you gonna say to that? It's 1984 01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 1: also it's so stupid, suck my ball. 1985 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,559 Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't a fight, It's a wedding. Remember, 1986 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 3: remember Jim Lampley the first time. 1987 01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 1: These are two guys falling in love. 1988 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,800 Speaker 3: They hate each other so much, they love each other. 1989 01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,080 Speaker 4: I'm like Jim, they're fistfighting, not falling in love. Luke 1990 01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:19,000 Speaker 4: fighting and fucking. 1991 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,080 Speaker 3: Let me tell you the DraftKings odds as we speak, 1992 01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,320 Speaker 3: because I think as these as the days roll on, 1993 01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,439 Speaker 3: we do fear for that size difference for Mike and 1994 01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,320 Speaker 3: the and the fact that Jake can actually, to a 1995 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,800 Speaker 3: certain degree, especially in the in the crossover bubble, can 1996 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,080 Speaker 3: be a technical boxer, can jab and hold. DraftKings has 1997 01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 3: Jake Pauley minus three forty favorite plus two fifty for 1998 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,840 Speaker 3: Mike Perry. We've heard, We've seen Eddie Hearn say Mike 1999 01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,479 Speaker 3: Perry has no chance. We've seen a lot of people 2000 01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,680 Speaker 3: say that, look are these odds representative of how you 2001 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:43,600 Speaker 3: think this fight could go? 2002 01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:44,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2003 01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I tend to think that they're probably right. Again, 2004 01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,759 Speaker 4: Mike Perry's up against it. He is a B side, 2005 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,360 Speaker 4: and he's a B side who's an undersized one, not 2006 01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,760 Speaker 4: in the sport he typically competes in. He should not win, 2007 01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,719 Speaker 4: but Mike has been proving a lot of people wrong 2008 01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,639 Speaker 4: as he left the UFC. Again, shouldn't win, but it'd 2009 01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 4: be quite interesting if he did, and not out of 2010 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,000 Speaker 4: the Roman possibility either. 2011 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,200 Speaker 3: Obviously, I'm looking forward to it and maybe maybe we do. 2012 01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,080 Speaker 3: MK Free Friday is this weekend. Dig a little deeper 2013 01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,200 Speaker 3: after they get after they get impressive. Yeah, let's see, 2014 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,120 Speaker 3: let's see see if they do reach around. Let's see 2015 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:16,960 Speaker 3: if they have sex on stage. I don't be the 2016 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:17,639 Speaker 3: first to report. 2017 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,640 Speaker 4: They definitely kind of intimated that they were going to 2018 01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,720 Speaker 4: be doing that, So I guess we are where we are. 2019 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,679 Speaker 3: Those are your five topics of the week. 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That was gross. 2087 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,240 Speaker 3: All right, Luke, let's see what the fans have to 2088 01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,640 Speaker 3: say after a weekend. That was first question coming to 2089 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:40,120 Speaker 3: us from at Bike Life Underscore BD. Well, I can 2090 01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,959 Speaker 3: get down with that with Now we're saying John or Gan. 2091 01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's he's Brazilian, so I don't quite 2092 01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:48,000 Speaker 1: know how to do it. Okay. 2093 01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:51,280 Speaker 3: With John Silva's impressive performance on Saturday against Drew Dober 2094 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,360 Speaker 3: in that absolute war, which considering that he moved up 2095 01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,200 Speaker 3: in Wait on two week notice to take this fight, 2096 01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,080 Speaker 3: which weight class do you think Silva should stay and 2097 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,120 Speaker 3: compete at regularly? Because his power, Luke did seem to 2098 01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:02,840 Speaker 3: carry it a lightweight. 2099 01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:06,559 Speaker 1: Dober seemed a lot bigger, and I realized that he 2100 01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:08,720 Speaker 1: lost and got stopped, But I'm just pointing out he 2101 01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:09,760 Speaker 1: did seem quite big. 2102 01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:15,599 Speaker 4: If Silva can make one forty five, he should stay 2103 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,320 Speaker 4: at one forty five. It's the issue of can he 2104 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,960 Speaker 4: make it right? So it's not one of these questions like, 2105 01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,000 Speaker 4: oh he can make both, what's the question? Well, if 2106 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,320 Speaker 4: he can make both, then just stay at one forty five. 2107 01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,960 Speaker 4: But if you can't, then there really is no choice. 2108 01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:29,800 Speaker 4: That's that's as simply as I look at it. 2109 01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:31,800 Speaker 3: He looks like a little bit of a killer though. 2110 01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:32,519 Speaker 1: I mean, it looks like he. 2111 01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:35,759 Speaker 4: Looks fucking awesome. He looked trement, that whole team fighting Nerds, 2112 01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,600 Speaker 4: all those guys him, Kyle Bohalio, all those guys, Hoofy, 2113 01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,000 Speaker 4: that all at. 2114 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,720 Speaker 3: TV fight and we sort of saw somebody take the 2115 01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 3: next step and went up. Do you were you surprised 2116 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,000 Speaker 3: as I was that they interviewed Drew Dober afterwards. It 2117 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,040 Speaker 3: wasn't like it was fight of the year, but they 2118 01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:52,280 Speaker 3: so he was the hometown guy. I sort of get 2119 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,120 Speaker 3: that they rarely do stuff like that. But again, I 2120 01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,280 Speaker 3: got nothing better to say about Dover. Dude comes to fight, 2121 01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,559 Speaker 3: does not, is not deterred that his eye was falling 2122 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,519 Speaker 3: off Luke and still wanted to. 2123 01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,360 Speaker 1: Con ridiculous chin too. I mean, that guy's been hit 2124 01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,600 Speaker 1: with some heavy leather and stood the stood up and 2125 01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,479 Speaker 1: with and withstood it. So he's a real name. Let's 2126 01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,120 Speaker 1: go to the next question here from our folks. 2127 01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:15,759 Speaker 3: This is from at fergul Fits after nine UFC fights, 2128 01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,680 Speaker 3: Poeton eight and one with seven KOs and a two 2129 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:22,559 Speaker 3: weight UFC champion. After ten UFC fights, Connor McGregor was 2130 01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,479 Speaker 3: nine in one with seven KOs and was a two 2131 01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:30,240 Speaker 3: weight UFC champion. Great question, whose run is more impressive? 2132 01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:34,680 Speaker 1: Connors? Explain Connor's beaten better, guys. 2133 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,720 Speaker 4: Connor beat again, that was a very underdeveloped, but he 2134 01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:39,559 Speaker 4: beat Max Holloway, he iced Joseph. 2135 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,720 Speaker 3: We're saying Connor threw Eddie Alvarez at the peak of 2136 01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 3: his powers November to twenty. 2137 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,920 Speaker 1: Sixteen, just the top of the mountain. Connor beat much better. Guys. 2138 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:48,599 Speaker 4: I had someone in my life chat last week BC 2139 01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:52,960 Speaker 4: asked me about They asked me about, like, you know, 2140 01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:58,800 Speaker 4: is this a renaissance, because is having a bit of 2141 01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,120 Speaker 4: a moment, But they're like, is this a renaissance? Also 2142 01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:03,120 Speaker 4: at two of five? I'm like, guys, now, two o 2143 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:04,799 Speaker 4: five has never been worse. 2144 01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:06,280 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you. 2145 01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,519 Speaker 4: Could say like the early proto days of MMA, but 2146 01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,720 Speaker 4: in the modern era, it's never been worse. This is 2147 01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,960 Speaker 4: a division that when it was hot in UFC with 2148 01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:15,840 Speaker 4: your human kind of back and forth a little bit. 2149 01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:21,080 Speaker 4: But your vturs, your Randy's, your Chucks, your Tito's concurrently 2150 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:26,280 Speaker 4: over in Pride you had Arona Rampage, Soccaraba oveream I 2151 01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:30,800 Speaker 4: mean Vanderlay Dan Henderson like. Concurrently, at the exact same time, 2152 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,080 Speaker 4: it was the number one Markee division in UFC. 2153 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,840 Speaker 1: While it was arguably they had a good. 2154 01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,800 Speaker 4: Heavyweight division, but certainly one of Pride's better divisions, if 2155 01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,519 Speaker 4: not their best one. Sure Concurrently, concurrently it is a 2156 01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:44,439 Speaker 4: fucking graveyard compared to that. 2157 01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:50,280 Speaker 1: Now. So while what Patata is doing is amazing, dude, 2158 01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 1: it is amazing. 2159 01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,040 Speaker 3: Com I mean, we're comparing two of the greatest runs 2160 01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:54,200 Speaker 3: of all time in a short period. 2161 01:33:54,640 --> 01:34:00,200 Speaker 4: Would Connor beat significantly better competition significantly please be seeing. 2162 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,120 Speaker 3: Again, I can argue that John Jones is run, and 2163 01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,840 Speaker 3: particularly that calendar year that I brought up recently is also, 2164 01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,040 Speaker 3: you know, maybe the greatest stretch I've ever seen. 2165 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:08,360 Speaker 1: His twenty eleven. 2166 01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, the year that he won the Tiawa went four 2167 01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,680 Speaker 3: fights pat show gun uh Aram Paige Macheedah, those four 2168 01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,240 Speaker 3: fights and the destructive nature in which he won. 2169 01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:17,920 Speaker 1: Them, Yeah, finishing, finishing all of them. 2170 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:19,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, look, Poton is carving out something that is 2171 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,960 Speaker 3: unique given him circumstances. As much as I want to 2172 01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,360 Speaker 3: see that, the craziness of the crossover ideas of him 2173 01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,400 Speaker 3: going up to heavyweight. Him against On Calive is a 2174 01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,799 Speaker 3: great fight, and look, that would be yet another badass 2175 01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:31,400 Speaker 3: name if he can get his hand raised. There So 2176 01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:35,360 Speaker 3: no stop in Pooton right now. No, no, let's keep 2177 01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:36,800 Speaker 3: it going. You look like you just lost interest in 2178 01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,599 Speaker 3: the show. It looks like your soul just leaked out. 2179 01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:40,720 Speaker 1: Are you all right? Yeah, I'm good, all right, Let's 2180 01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:41,200 Speaker 1: keep it going. 2181 01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:44,439 Speaker 3: Then, I guess it was me at Alexander Underscore Evans 2182 01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,000 Speaker 3: Underscore seven. Do you think Sean O'Malley deserved to win 2183 01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:50,320 Speaker 3: the sp for twenty twenty four's Best MMA Fighter for 2184 01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:54,320 Speaker 3: his win over fifth ranth contender Cheeto Vera while Pooton 2185 01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,559 Speaker 3: ko two former champions to hear. 2186 01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:57,599 Speaker 1: While I. 2187 01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,040 Speaker 4: The perform that Sean and Maley put it on over 2188 01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:05,880 Speaker 4: the course of five rounds was very very very good, 2189 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,240 Speaker 4: really commendable. It's really not a lot bad you can 2190 01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:12,040 Speaker 4: say about it. So the question is whose was better? 2191 01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,680 Speaker 4: I would argue that the two wins Poton had were better. Now, 2192 01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:17,200 Speaker 4: I think there also might be a question of what 2193 01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,360 Speaker 4: the voting timeframe was not. 2194 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,000 Speaker 1: It's not January to December. It's always weird right. 2195 01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that might change the conversation. But if we're 2196 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:28,800 Speaker 4: just comparing that win to the two wins, yeah, for 2197 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,840 Speaker 4: sure deserved it under that concent. 2198 01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,599 Speaker 3: Like the SS have really ever mattered, right in terms 2199 01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:36,599 Speaker 3: of like what they represent, Like we want an sp Like. 2200 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,240 Speaker 1: Okay, I think it matters to the athletes who win. 2201 01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean it. 2202 01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,280 Speaker 3: Matters from the idea of like an entertainment show and 2203 01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:42,439 Speaker 3: oh hey, we won the SPO. 2204 01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,960 Speaker 4: You can't say it doesn't matter because if if Poton 2205 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,880 Speaker 4: had won it, we'd be like, yeah, he deserved it. 2206 01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,080 Speaker 4: And now you're saying, oh, well, O'Malley won it, he 2207 01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:50,640 Speaker 4: didn't deserve it. What does it really mean? No, it 2208 01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:52,040 Speaker 4: would mean something in either case. 2209 01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:52,880 Speaker 1: It's just that. 2210 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:54,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it means you've crossed it over to some 2211 01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,360 Speaker 3: degree or getting a like a mainstream shout out on 2212 01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:59,679 Speaker 3: a big thing. But like it doesn't really mean anything. 2213 01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:03,280 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a signifier of elite success in the 2214 01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,080 Speaker 4: sporting world. Sure, whether it's the ultimate arbiter of that 2215 01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:07,439 Speaker 4: is obviously not the case. 2216 01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:10,040 Speaker 1: But it means something. And I think if poets On 2217 01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:11,680 Speaker 1: had won, it would be very celebratory. 2218 01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,160 Speaker 3: But I like that you fancy yourself the ultimate arbiter 2219 01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,479 Speaker 3: of combat sports without actually saying it. I like that. 2220 01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I just try to give my takes, you know, 2221 01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:19,840 Speaker 1: That's what we all try to. 2222 01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,760 Speaker 3: But you stand on your business even if people hate. 2223 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:26,080 Speaker 1: Dude, Why do you bring up that every time? 2224 01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:28,479 Speaker 3: I'm impressed by you? You you know, like, you know 2225 01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:28,840 Speaker 3: what I mean? 2226 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:30,280 Speaker 1: Why are you focused on. 2227 01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:32,559 Speaker 3: I can't shout you out. I spend enough time tearing 2228 01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:34,240 Speaker 3: you down on the mic. I can shout you out. 2229 01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:36,600 Speaker 4: How often you like people are mad at me? You 2230 01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,000 Speaker 4: bring this up like all the time. 2231 01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:40,160 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't mean it to like poke you. I 2232 01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:41,800 Speaker 3: just said I say other things to Pokey like that 2233 01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:42,559 Speaker 3: to all Porio video. 2234 01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah that's fine, yeah, poke you. 2235 01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:47,080 Speaker 3: No, I'm just impressed that you know you you inspire 2236 01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,000 Speaker 3: me to be more of a badass on the mic. 2237 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't believe that, but go ahead. 2238 01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,040 Speaker 3: I'm being honest and really I'm being a good partner. 2239 01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,000 Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, let's keep it going here from the fans, 2240 01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,080 Speaker 3: Well yeah, chin, let's go over to at z Riggs. 2241 01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:02,360 Speaker 3: Great question. What is one pizza topping that you would 2242 01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,360 Speaker 3: choose if you could only have one for the rest 2243 01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:05,880 Speaker 3: of your life. Don't give me a Luke Thomas answer 2244 01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,600 Speaker 3: of seven, I need one and one only for the 2245 01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:12,479 Speaker 3: rest of your life. I never would have saw that coming. 2246 01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:14,519 Speaker 3: I can't hate on it because even though I'm a 2247 01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,479 Speaker 3: wimp when it comes to heat, I have grown to 2248 01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,960 Speaker 3: love halopenos on a lot of things. You're really gonna 2249 01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:21,080 Speaker 3: pick that number one, dude? 2250 01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean, pepperoni would be the answer, but. 2251 01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,280 Speaker 3: Like, first of all, meatball is the answer. 2252 01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:26,400 Speaker 1: Meatball? Oh? 2253 01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:27,240 Speaker 3: Hell yeah? 2254 01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:30,240 Speaker 1: Met like birthday cake and cigarette butts. Okay. 2255 01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:34,799 Speaker 3: The number two is is arguably Ricotta. 2256 01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't gringo. 2257 01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,599 Speaker 3: I'm gringo. Okay, I'm an America. I'm an American bringo 2258 01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:45,400 Speaker 3: over here. Would see that kid rock angry video you 2259 01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:46,360 Speaker 3: grew up? 2260 01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:48,519 Speaker 1: You me with me? I was like, go shoot a 2261 01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,639 Speaker 1: case of bud light, you sixty year old zill. 2262 01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,360 Speaker 3: I mean, do you like he caught Pamela Anders on 2263 01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,200 Speaker 3: the back on the back nine? 2264 01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:59,479 Speaker 1: Do you give him credit for that? I mean, I 2265 01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,040 Speaker 1: mean Tommy he really is the one that. 2266 01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,559 Speaker 3: Tommy Lee was in Na Diez's locker room at that fight? 2267 01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,760 Speaker 1: Was he really? Yes? I didn't cross paths with him, 2268 01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,120 Speaker 1: but we were back in the same in his dungarees 2269 01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:09,639 Speaker 1: for sure. 2270 01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:12,960 Speaker 3: He has the original Rocko a lot. 2271 01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean, my man was steering the boat with that thing. 2272 01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:16,960 Speaker 1: I was like, it's like, dude, if you ever get 2273 01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,760 Speaker 1: old and you need a cane your money like your money. 2274 01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:22,080 Speaker 1: Oh boy, I think we have a final. Oh wait, 2275 01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:25,240 Speaker 1: but pineapple. I would add a how are. 2276 01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:27,360 Speaker 4: You doing the LT thing by giving a bunch of answers? 2277 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:32,360 Speaker 4: Give one meant ball? Such a fucking bozone. 2278 01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,160 Speaker 3: That's the manliest thing I've ever said on the show, 2279 01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,200 Speaker 3: The manliest thing number one. 2280 01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,080 Speaker 2: All right, I'm with you, Luke Collapino because my go 2281 01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,599 Speaker 2: to is jalapeno and onion on a pizzas. 2282 01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,120 Speaker 4: Oh you're a fucking are you? Are you the guy 2283 01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,240 Speaker 4: who shot Trump? You're a fucking serial Wow? 2284 01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:48,000 Speaker 3: Can you ask Ken? 2285 01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:51,920 Speaker 1: What's Ken's answer? Number one? For the rest of your life? 2286 01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:52,920 Speaker 1: He said, pepperoni. 2287 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:55,040 Speaker 3: See that's not a bad as a right. 2288 01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 1: The deer says chicken, chicken, de. 2289 01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:01,559 Speaker 3: Has weed socks on? Did you see those? 2290 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,160 Speaker 1: I could smell in the air with the with the 2291 01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,240 Speaker 1: weed walking in the room. Are you kidding? I got 2292 01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:08,040 Speaker 1: a contact high? Love it, love it. I believe we 2293 01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,240 Speaker 1: have one more question? What do we got here from? 2294 01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,519 Speaker 3: At World's Worst hero, great name what you got? These 2295 01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,280 Speaker 3: people are speaking my language. What's your favorite great fast 2296 01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,960 Speaker 3: food joint? And what is your favorite menu item from 2297 01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:21,880 Speaker 3: said fast food joint? 2298 01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,800 Speaker 4: Ship balls? That's a great question, you see, could you 2299 01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:26,200 Speaker 4: go first? I have to think about that because a 2300 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,000 Speaker 4: lot of people are like I have like the onion, 2301 01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:29,920 Speaker 4: blah blah blah, what a burger? And I'm like, I 2302 01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:31,280 Speaker 4: haven't into what a burger in years? 2303 01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:32,720 Speaker 3: And I don't mean to be like Luc Thomas, but 2304 01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:36,360 Speaker 3: in recent years I would have said the five layer 2305 01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,200 Speaker 3: beef britle from Taco Bell and Taco Bell being the 2306 01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,920 Speaker 3: an seven lay. No seven layers too much, right, you 2307 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,080 Speaker 3: gotta go five layer. At other times in my life 2308 01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:46,720 Speaker 3: I would have said I would have said a few things. 2309 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,080 Speaker 1: I would have said the RB's beef and cheddar. But 2310 01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:49,280 Speaker 1: let's go with right now. 2311 01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:51,559 Speaker 3: I think historically, if you look over the course of 2312 01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:53,200 Speaker 3: my life, which is very fast food heavy, I have 2313 01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:55,960 Speaker 3: a black liver that I'm working on to speak for it, 2314 01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:57,799 Speaker 3: the answer is Wendy's. 2315 01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:00,000 Speaker 1: That's the best fast food. 2316 01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,479 Speaker 3: That's the one if I had one more meal before death, 2317 01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,040 Speaker 3: fast food wise, i think I'm going to Wendy's. And 2318 01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,040 Speaker 3: as much as this is the most vanilla answer of 2319 01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:10,080 Speaker 3: all time. It's the classic single, Dude, It's the square patty. 2320 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,040 Speaker 3: It is like, that's the cheeseburger I. 2321 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:13,760 Speaker 1: Want, Luke. Okay, can I ask a question now? 2322 01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,680 Speaker 3: There's crazier cheeseburgers. The Texas toast one at Checkers will 2323 01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:17,960 Speaker 3: change your life. It's like a grilled cheese. 2324 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,719 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Never been to Checkers Florida. 2325 01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,080 Speaker 3: As my friend Mel said last night when we were 2326 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:26,040 Speaker 3: hanging out with that tyson Bong more to come on that. 2327 01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,200 Speaker 3: He said that Florida, if they do one thing right, 2328 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,799 Speaker 3: it's fast food. They are aggressive in terms of that regard. 2329 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,160 Speaker 3: But Wendy's does the answer, Luke, and I'll classic single 2330 01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:35,160 Speaker 3: that shit for days. 2331 01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:35,400 Speaker 1: Man. 2332 01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:38,800 Speaker 4: So I'm not sure how to answer this one. But 2333 01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:40,679 Speaker 4: can I ask one question that's separate from this before 2334 01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:41,439 Speaker 4: I give my answer? 2335 01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:41,719 Speaker 1: Please? 2336 01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:48,680 Speaker 4: What is the appeal of a smash burger? What is 2337 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:52,000 Speaker 4: the appeal? No, see that you know what I'm talking about, right. 2338 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,280 Speaker 4: They take the burger and they smash it flatis fox. 2339 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,800 Speaker 2: They cook the onions into it, and the onions I think, 2340 01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:58,160 Speaker 2: like melt into the meat. 2341 01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:59,960 Speaker 1: That's like, why does it have to be smashed. 2342 01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:03,920 Speaker 2: I think that helps the onions marinate into it, and 2343 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,959 Speaker 2: Ken saying the crispiness as well. 2344 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,960 Speaker 1: So people they want a little texture on the meat. 2345 01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:11,000 Speaker 2: Because I'm with you, I don't see the thrilling. 2346 01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:12,760 Speaker 1: Doesn't really add much to me to the experience. 2347 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:18,080 Speaker 4: Okay, so I would probably say the grilled stuff breed. 2348 01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:19,880 Speaker 4: I don't think they make them anymore. Taco Bell, that 2349 01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:20,880 Speaker 4: used to be my number one. 2350 01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:22,880 Speaker 3: With a fuck, but is Taco Bell your answer for 2351 01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,880 Speaker 3: what's your historically look at the course of your life, 2352 01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:27,519 Speaker 3: what is your favorite fast food chain? You're going to 2353 01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:27,960 Speaker 3: Taco Bell? 2354 01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Taco Bell is definitely my favorite fast food chain. 2355 01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:32,360 Speaker 4: I don't eat a lot of fast food, but to 2356 01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,320 Speaker 4: the extent that I do, the number one thing that 2357 01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:37,640 Speaker 4: I order is the spicy chicken sandwich at Chick fil A. 2358 01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:40,320 Speaker 1: That's my That's like, honestly what I order more than any. 2359 01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,400 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't get the spicy there, but the chicken 2360 01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:44,200 Speaker 3: sandwich at Chick fil a is a It's a mass. 2361 01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:46,920 Speaker 4: Fucking I get extra pickles in it, I get the 2362 01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,280 Speaker 4: lettuce tomato, I don't put the cheese on there, and 2363 01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:51,280 Speaker 4: then I'll sometimes top it off with a buffalo sauce. 2364 01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,360 Speaker 3: If I didn't say beef and cheddar with a jamocha 2365 01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:55,960 Speaker 3: shake after doing whippets behind Arby's and Waterbury near the 2366 01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:57,840 Speaker 3: Long Hill projects. I mean, some people that know no 2367 01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:00,840 Speaker 3: and uh that did happen? 2368 01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:05,720 Speaker 1: Does like a dairy Queen count Yeah, they have oay, okay, 2369 01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:06,439 Speaker 1: chili dogs. 2370 01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:07,400 Speaker 3: Dairy Queen can kill you. 2371 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,400 Speaker 4: It's not even that, but the Dairy Queen Reese's peanut 2372 01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:13,680 Speaker 4: butter cup blizzard might be. 2373 01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:15,160 Speaker 1: Oh, you're going dessert. 2374 01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:16,439 Speaker 3: Now, you're changing the game here. 2375 01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:18,960 Speaker 1: That's that might be number one. That might be number one. 2376 01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:20,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 2377 01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:21,120 Speaker 1: My favorite place is. 2378 01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:27,040 Speaker 2: What's your answer to McDonald's And I'm gonna go classic McNuggets. 2379 01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,880 Speaker 4: Dude, you're a fucking toddler. You got the palette of 2380 01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:33,360 Speaker 4: a motherfucking You can't knock nuggets any kind of nuts. 2381 01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I used Toil's nuggets are better than McDonald's nuggs. 2382 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,639 Speaker 1: I've never had them. I've had the sandwich sandwiches. Fire. 2383 01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,439 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, we can agree on that, but all right, 2384 01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:43,799 Speaker 4: my daughter likes the McDonald's chicken nuggets. 2385 01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:45,839 Speaker 1: Those things are as processed as food, coming. 2386 01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:48,120 Speaker 3: They are, but once in a while, you gotta get 2387 01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:49,719 Speaker 3: to mcdoubles and just go for it. 2388 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:51,640 Speaker 4: While once in a while, let me let me let 2389 01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:55,000 Speaker 4: me reverse Uno here most overrated fast food item, and 2390 01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:56,519 Speaker 4: what I mean by that is like obviously something that 2391 01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:57,160 Speaker 4: people love. 2392 01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,800 Speaker 3: Now, that's a great question. I always in general, and 2393 01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:02,200 Speaker 3: so I know some people attack me for this at 2394 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,520 Speaker 3: Burger King in general as massively. 2395 01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:07,880 Speaker 1: Over it if I top to bottom taste like absolute nothing. 2396 01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:10,519 Speaker 3: They had moments breakfast wise through the years, but there 2397 01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:12,840 Speaker 3: they're top to bottom. I mean, I did mess with 2398 01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:15,639 Speaker 3: their chicken palm thing at one time, but overall I think. 2399 01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,360 Speaker 1: They're overrated badly. Okay, I'm gonna say the Big Mac. 2400 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:19,960 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 2401 01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:21,080 Speaker 1: Agree with the Big Mac. 2402 01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:23,800 Speaker 4: It's not that I hate the taste profile, but like 2403 01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:27,320 Speaker 4: the middle, soggy bun in the middle doesn't do much 2404 01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:27,680 Speaker 4: for me. 2405 01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:30,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't really transform the experience. What are gon say, Nsita. 2406 01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:32,720 Speaker 2: Kenna Nader, We're in agreeance with to you on the 2407 01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:33,400 Speaker 2: Big Mach agree. 2408 01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:36,880 Speaker 3: I worked at McDonald's for two years during my last 2409 01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,920 Speaker 3: years of high school during the Arch Deluxe, one of 2410 01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:41,799 Speaker 3: the massive flops in fast food history. 2411 01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,160 Speaker 1: That was the healthy Adult but not healthy. It was 2412 01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:45,760 Speaker 1: the adult burger. It was. 2413 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:50,080 Speaker 3: They had this incredible artisle bun, and they had elements 2414 01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:52,080 Speaker 3: within the burger that were supposed to be like higher class, 2415 01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:55,280 Speaker 3: like an upscale burger. Dude, I used to f the 2416 01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:57,400 Speaker 3: elements inside, although they were great. I used to just 2417 01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:00,519 Speaker 3: take that bun and then make triple and sometimes quadruple 2418 01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,840 Speaker 3: cheeseburgers in that bond until one time I bit down 2419 01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:06,600 Speaker 3: on the quadruple cheeseburger directly out of the oven that 2420 01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,160 Speaker 3: rich Suzski gave me, and I felt my heart skipped 2421 01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:10,639 Speaker 3: two beats after I bit it down. 2422 01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:11,920 Speaker 1: Look, and I never ate that again. 2423 01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:14,720 Speaker 3: The Arch Deluxe was a boss, and they got rid 2424 01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:16,160 Speaker 3: of it because they lost so much money on that. 2425 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,280 Speaker 3: People that some people know out there, they know. I 2426 01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,200 Speaker 3: also ordered the mic hot dog when it came out, 2427 01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:22,040 Speaker 3: and it was the grossest thing I ever ate, And oh, 2428 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:25,600 Speaker 3: I got it. That's the answer. The most overrated of 2429 01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:29,599 Speaker 3: all time is the It's disgusting and people live and 2430 01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:31,880 Speaker 3: die by it. But then again, seven eleven hot dogs 2431 01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:33,639 Speaker 3: made up half of my youth, So what can I say? 2432 01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:35,680 Speaker 3: And that's that's a true fact. My dad and I 2433 01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:37,960 Speaker 3: would go on the motorcycle. We would actually park and 2434 01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:39,960 Speaker 3: then set up a little picnic under the tree, which 2435 01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:41,360 Speaker 3: is the most white trash. 2436 01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:42,040 Speaker 1: Thing could possibly do. 2437 01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:44,200 Speaker 3: But that's the connection we have. Don't you have that 2438 01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,679 Speaker 3: with your dad somewhere like a coffee shop or something. 2439 01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:51,280 Speaker 1: My dad gave out Roy Rogers coupontoween. Go there, you go. 2440 01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:54,120 Speaker 3: All right, we got one more segment for you, and 2441 01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:56,799 Speaker 3: arguably it's the best one in all of podcasting today. 2442 01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:58,559 Speaker 3: To be fair, right, I scholar at the globe for 2443 01:44:58,560 --> 01:44:59,880 Speaker 3: the good and bad, the ugly, the high and load 2444 01:44:59,920 --> 01:45:02,400 Speaker 3: the between from the worlds of combat sports and beyond. 2445 01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:04,920 Speaker 3: Old people get hurt. We see some bad tattoos. This 2446 01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:14,080 Speaker 3: is called have you seen this shit? 2447 01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:15,479 Speaker 1: Who Ah? 2448 01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,000 Speaker 3: By the way, did you read the Hawk to a 2449 01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:20,360 Speaker 3: girl interview with Rolling Stone. She's rebranding herself as like 2450 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:24,960 Speaker 3: this wholesome like Dolly Parton America, and I'm here for it. 2451 01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:25,880 Speaker 3: Shout out to that chick. 2452 01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:28,840 Speaker 1: Listen, make a couple of dick sucking jokes. It can 2453 01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:29,519 Speaker 1: change your life. 2454 01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:33,920 Speaker 3: Look at UFC Denver time. This was the on the 2455 01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:37,559 Speaker 3: mic moment of the weekend. Jasmine Jazzdavissius hearing booze from 2456 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:38,680 Speaker 3: the crowd, and she didn't like it. 2457 01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:42,479 Speaker 6: That was kind of like the game plan a little bit. Yeah, 2458 01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:45,240 Speaker 6: I'm like still working on my striking guy. 2459 01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,040 Speaker 1: Shut up, boost fucking man. 2460 01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:52,479 Speaker 3: Look she did the out of with the with the 2461 01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:55,720 Speaker 3: toss and the throw of the of the fluid. That's 2462 01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:57,320 Speaker 3: something right, I popped for that. 2463 01:45:57,760 --> 01:45:59,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate anyone who tells a booing crowd to go 2464 01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:01,679 Speaker 1: fuck off. That's a great He'll work. 2465 01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,639 Speaker 3: Luke. Luana Santos, by the way, one her fifth straight fight, 2466 01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:08,000 Speaker 3: taking Maria a Gopava to the woodshed, and she celebrated 2467 01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:09,760 Speaker 3: the only way she knows how and became a lot 2468 01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:10,639 Speaker 3: of people's favorite fight. 2469 01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:16,479 Speaker 1: Of your thoughts. I think a lot of you guys 2470 01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:20,120 Speaker 1: are so horny. 2471 01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:21,679 Speaker 3: This has nothing to well. 2472 01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:25,479 Speaker 1: You guys are in desperate need. Go hire up. 2473 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:26,920 Speaker 3: Let me stop that. 2474 01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:32,040 Speaker 1: Put the camera if you're there. Are so many of 2475 01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:35,040 Speaker 1: you under sex losers. Not not the audience watching here, 2476 01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,760 Speaker 1: but like, send this to somebody, you know, not our 2477 01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:40,120 Speaker 1: MK viewers, but MK viewers. You know what I'm talking about. 2478 01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:40,920 Speaker 1: Send this to them. 2479 01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:46,680 Speaker 4: Y'all are in desperate need of some female attention. Do 2480 01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:49,320 Speaker 4: what my friends in the Marine Corps did. Go hire 2481 01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:50,160 Speaker 4: some prostitutes. 2482 01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:52,040 Speaker 3: Oh though you're gonnay run a train on hospital that 2483 01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:53,360 Speaker 3: can happen. 2484 01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:56,160 Speaker 4: To find some fine you know, find find somebody out 2485 01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,679 Speaker 4: there who for a hundred bucks can rock your ship. 2486 01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:04,200 Speaker 4: Because the amount of online horniness from under sex dudes 2487 01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:07,600 Speaker 4: in m M A is shocking. It's the epitome of 2488 01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:08,799 Speaker 4: the no fucking section. 2489 01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:11,200 Speaker 1: Luke. 2490 01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:14,240 Speaker 3: The most entertaining man in combat sports, Dean Thomas, showed 2491 01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:15,680 Speaker 3: up at the UFC Wayan Show. You know how he 2492 01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:19,840 Speaker 3: does great impersonations. Here's this new one called kimura Usman. 2493 01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:26,360 Speaker 7: I'm gonna say he went to go do to I'm 2494 01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:27,000 Speaker 7: gonna just put it. 2495 01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:32,360 Speaker 6: Wow, that's what That's what you're doing. 2496 01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:37,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what this was. Welcome back to the show, Kimora. 2497 01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:45,479 Speaker 1: What's happening? M Okay? How you doing a minute? I'm 2498 01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:45,960 Speaker 1: going good? 2499 01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:46,759 Speaker 3: Were the fool? 2500 01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:50,040 Speaker 1: Dan Thompson. I don't know, but you fresh though, you 2501 01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:53,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm just hey, what's up? Man? 2502 01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2503 01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you like to I like it? 2504 01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,599 Speaker 3: You know, he's straight off the back of a hyena. 2505 01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:05,439 Speaker 1: I stopped it with my bare hands. 2506 01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:06,800 Speaker 3: It's still in the parking lot. 2507 01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:08,040 Speaker 1: I get you. 2508 01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:13,160 Speaker 3: One Naegerian nightmare. 2509 01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:15,960 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I like that look. 2510 01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,000 Speaker 3: That continued on and on to hilarity. Can they make 2511 01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:21,240 Speaker 3: more room for him on UFC broadcast? I mean it 2512 01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:25,080 Speaker 3: the combination of humor with he's a badass X fighter 2513 01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:28,200 Speaker 3: turn coach. He has he can legitimately offer quick analysis 2514 01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:30,160 Speaker 3: of what's going good or wrong. I'd almost like a 2515 01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:32,040 Speaker 3: chair at ringside. Make him the third band dude. 2516 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,360 Speaker 4: The years and years ago, I had a segment on 2517 01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:37,280 Speaker 4: Fridays on my radio show where we would like interview 2518 01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,439 Speaker 4: top fighters to do like just film breakdown. 2519 01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:43,080 Speaker 1: Dean was a guest like two times a month when 2520 01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:44,559 Speaker 1: I was doing that. Right he is. 2521 01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,920 Speaker 4: He's been underappreciated for a long time. Not now less so, 2522 01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:48,840 Speaker 4: but long time. 2523 01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:50,920 Speaker 3: People had him on the show last two years ago 2524 01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:53,400 Speaker 3: and he did it from the apex inside the cage. 2525 01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:55,960 Speaker 1: Yes, that was fantastic. It was amazing. Is the best 2526 01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:56,880 Speaker 1: by the way. 2527 01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:58,920 Speaker 3: He did that to Camara's face, That's that's ballsy and 2528 01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:00,040 Speaker 3: I love it. 2529 01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:01,880 Speaker 1: He told me he was working on an impression of me. 2530 01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:03,160 Speaker 3: I need to see this, Dean. 2531 01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:04,559 Speaker 1: Can you bring this? I think you had to shell 2532 01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:06,960 Speaker 1: because there's no real place to use it. But yeah, 2533 01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:08,639 Speaker 1: because UFC loves you, Luke. 2534 01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:12,240 Speaker 3: This is how he did it Montel Jackson thirteen seconds 2535 01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:15,320 Speaker 3: against Demon Black Cheer. You mentioned Dominic Cruz said that 2536 01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,000 Speaker 3: that cross you can't miss with it. 2537 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,080 Speaker 1: Well he didn't. He didn't miss. Dude, just kept the 2538 01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,080 Speaker 1: hand out there as the feeler like the just changed 2539 01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,200 Speaker 1: rhythm instead of touching with the lead hand, touching with 2540 01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:25,200 Speaker 1: the lead hand changed the rhythm up right there, and 2541 01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:26,880 Speaker 1: then he got him straight punches rhythm. 2542 01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:29,559 Speaker 3: Luke, So you want to be an ultimate fighter. Here's 2543 01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:31,800 Speaker 3: what Drew Dover looked like when his eye exploded. 2544 01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:37,320 Speaker 1: Good lord, that's a bad cut. That's right. 2545 01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:40,479 Speaker 4: We're so used to seeing bad cuts that kind of 2546 01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:41,520 Speaker 4: numbed out. 2547 01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:44,720 Speaker 1: That's a really bad cut. Like, holy shit. 2548 01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,720 Speaker 3: Shout out to Drew Dover because he was wanting to 2549 01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:48,040 Speaker 3: continue to fight through that. 2550 01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:50,840 Speaker 4: You see the pictures the next day. Oh my god, 2551 01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:53,240 Speaker 4: his face looked like he was in a car accident. 2552 01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,720 Speaker 3: Luke, Shaker Stevenson is making the rounds, getting recruited by 2553 01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:57,720 Speaker 3: big time promoters. He was at the Boots fight in 2554 01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:00,000 Speaker 3: the MATCHOM broadcast. Here's the quick interview with Chris Many. 2555 01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,800 Speaker 2: No, if you do work with Matt Trumgolden Boy, that 2556 01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:05,280 Speaker 2: means I'd be scoring some of your fights, and I 2557 01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:07,400 Speaker 2: know you're a huge fan of my scorecard. 2558 01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:09,880 Speaker 3: I hate just got Card. I think you wanted a 2559 01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:11,280 Speaker 3: worse that I've seen him boxing. 2560 01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:12,840 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be a fun uh. 2561 01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,480 Speaker 3: He's gonna be real fun if we can make Admons. 2562 01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:16,960 Speaker 1: Good luck, Chi Court, thank you. I'll tell you what 2563 01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:18,280 Speaker 1: I like Chris Mannix a lot. 2564 01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,479 Speaker 3: I've had a good I've had good I have nothing 2565 01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:21,120 Speaker 3: but nice thing. 2566 01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:22,640 Speaker 1: As a person, he's cool, he's cool hanging. I like 2567 01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:24,120 Speaker 1: him well, I'll just say this. 2568 01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:25,840 Speaker 4: I don't know him that well, but every time I've 2569 01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,880 Speaker 4: interact with him in person, it's been very cool. He 2570 01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,280 Speaker 4: did a big preview for me when I covered Mayweather 2571 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:34,719 Speaker 4: Pakiao for Espionation at the time. So shouts to Chris Mannicks. 2572 01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:36,880 Speaker 4: I like that he asked that, and he lets Shaker 2573 01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:37,719 Speaker 4: have his way. 2574 01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,040 Speaker 3: That he let him dunk on him. That's what you're. 2575 01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:40,439 Speaker 1: Supposed to do. 2576 01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:42,479 Speaker 3: I don't always love Chris's takes, but I've been listening 2577 01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:44,760 Speaker 3: to his podcast, Like, I disagree. 2578 01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:46,280 Speaker 1: With this takes all the time, but I appreciate that 2579 01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:48,760 Speaker 1: he just does his job professionally as best he can 2580 01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:49,439 Speaker 1: and keeps it moving. 2581 01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:50,680 Speaker 3: And I think he's good at what he does, there's 2582 01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:52,439 Speaker 3: no I have a similar role that I'm trying to do. 2583 01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:54,040 Speaker 1: So again, I say it one more time. You had 2584 01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:57,280 Speaker 1: all you had Sean Porter, you had the fore man Booth. 2585 01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't like they had Sergio Mora. They had who's 2586 01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:04,080 Speaker 1: the other fighter on at and they were killing Mannix 2587 01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,800 Speaker 1: over pointing out he had that Boots was had a 2588 01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:09,200 Speaker 1: ring rust and then sure enough Boots is like I 2589 01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:11,200 Speaker 1: had ring Russ. So yes, of course you have to 2590 01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,080 Speaker 1: listen to fighters. Get to listen to people who have 2591 01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:13,880 Speaker 1: other perspectives too. 2592 01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:15,800 Speaker 3: All right, time to hit the wild and wacky luke 2593 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:19,120 Speaker 3: of the regional fight circuit where you know anything can happen. 2594 01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:23,080 Speaker 1: And this fucking guy marches right into Reuben War. 2595 01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:25,519 Speaker 3: He needed six seconds to do that. 2596 01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:28,519 Speaker 4: Wow, the other guy, I want to point out something. 2597 01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,280 Speaker 4: He takes these like crow hops. When you do that, 2598 01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:34,400 Speaker 4: you land heavy on the front foot, which means your 2599 01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:37,640 Speaker 4: weight is moving more into the punch than having a 2600 01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,120 Speaker 4: balanced perspectives, he would you would just kind of hop 2601 01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:42,000 Speaker 4: like that and leave people like watch the front foot 2602 01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:44,640 Speaker 4: of the guy who gets knocked out. Watch heavy on 2603 01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:46,599 Speaker 4: the front foot as soon as he gets cracked. 2604 01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:48,679 Speaker 3: There King Mo coming out of retirement to be KFC. 2605 01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:50,320 Speaker 1: Don't love it. I don't love I love King Mo, 2606 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:51,519 Speaker 1: so I don't love King Mo. 2607 01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,920 Speaker 3: Don't love Rampage and Rashad in a boxing match at 2608 01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:55,920 Speaker 3: one Championship in Atlanta. 2609 01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:58,840 Speaker 4: That's I've got so much respect for Rashad that I 2610 01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:00,320 Speaker 4: just don't want to see fighting. 2611 01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:01,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to. 2612 01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:02,760 Speaker 3: Romanian mma, Luke. A lot of people love in this 2613 01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:04,519 Speaker 3: the last few weeks. This is two on one match, 2614 01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,400 Speaker 3: two females and a fat guy, and it went about 2615 01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:07,160 Speaker 3: us how you would. 2616 01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:09,920 Speaker 1: Expect this is BC at prom. 2617 01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:11,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, the women are just after me. I have to 2618 01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:12,040 Speaker 3: keep them off. 2619 01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:13,759 Speaker 1: So no, no, they're trying to find the bear spray 2620 01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:14,400 Speaker 1: to go after you. 2621 01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:17,439 Speaker 3: I mean, he battered these chicks, Luke. It's like, this 2622 01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:20,360 Speaker 3: is fucking gross cam soda material. 2623 01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really terrible, but you know what, it's 2624 01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,679 Speaker 1: a it's a well, look it gets worse. It seems 2625 01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:25,479 Speaker 1: very Romanian. 2626 01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:28,560 Speaker 3: Bob Sapp was involved in wheelchair boxing as well. I 2627 01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,680 Speaker 3: don't know if it's the same Carter, It's probably not 2628 01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:31,280 Speaker 3: the same card. 2629 01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,960 Speaker 1: But what do you think about this? Bob sap ripped 2630 01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:35,920 Speaker 1: still by the way, there's so many it's like dude, 2631 01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:37,160 Speaker 1: let's fight each other in a car. 2632 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:39,920 Speaker 4: Let's fight it. So it's like doctor Seuss. Yeah, I'll 2633 01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,200 Speaker 4: fight you in a car. I'll fight you very far. 2634 01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,960 Speaker 4: I'll fight you in a bar. I'll fight you. And 2635 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:50,040 Speaker 4: it just goes on in water and anything. And they're 2636 01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:52,559 Speaker 4: all stupid versions of the last one. 2637 01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,559 Speaker 3: So so much PDS as he's taking these days. 2638 01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean there's a shortage because they're all in his bloodstream. 2639 01:52:58,000 --> 01:52:59,519 Speaker 3: We also have a left hook from hell on the 2640 01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:00,320 Speaker 3: regional and this. 2641 01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:02,479 Speaker 1: Is a great knock. I watched this. That's a nice one. 2642 01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,280 Speaker 1: Ooh Jesus damn, look at that. 2643 01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:08,000 Speaker 3: All right, Jersey of the week time, let's keep it going, Luke. 2644 01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,240 Speaker 3: Anytime someone's gonna put on number sixty nine, you know what. 2645 01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:14,240 Speaker 1: They're all about, Master being Ho. 2646 01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:16,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Brazilian soccer star. 2647 01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,160 Speaker 1: Everybody. Look, he's a legend on the on the beaches 2648 01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:21,439 Speaker 1: of Epanima or whatever. 2649 01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:23,719 Speaker 3: The look your joke of the week comes from this comedian. 2650 01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:25,840 Speaker 1: I've been down that road. I used to get terrible 2651 01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:29,360 Speaker 1: cramps in my jaw from cocaine, okay, until I found 2652 01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:36,559 Speaker 1: out that you could just buy it with money. I 2653 01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:39,040 Speaker 1: pop for that, all right, No, you're a simple thing. Oh, 2654 01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:40,519 Speaker 1: get out of here. Let's keep it going. 2655 01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:42,360 Speaker 3: Hey, late Father's Day gift. 2656 01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:45,840 Speaker 1: Idea hand job better than nothing. 2657 01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:50,519 Speaker 3: I will agree with that, Luke, it is better than nothing, right, Yeah, 2658 01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:52,800 Speaker 3: take what you take what you can get, all right, Hey, 2659 01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:56,000 Speaker 3: virtual reality and boxing go together with fails. Very well. 2660 01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:56,680 Speaker 3: Let's watch this. 2661 01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,680 Speaker 4: It deserved it, Honestly. If you strap that shit on 2662 01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:09,280 Speaker 4: your head, you deserve to get your balls bitten. 2663 01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:10,120 Speaker 1: Ready for the dog. 2664 01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:12,560 Speaker 3: Hey, mma fighters in the wild time. This is the 2665 01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:14,680 Speaker 3: regular people just like us. Let's see John Jones in 2666 01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:16,639 Speaker 3: the weight room. How much do you respect this five 2667 01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:18,200 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five pounds squad? 2668 01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:20,880 Speaker 4: So I'll just say this. This is he's obviously strong. 2669 01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:23,400 Speaker 4: He's obviously strong. But this is called a box squat. 2670 01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:25,879 Speaker 4: Let's see does he I need to see the positioning 2671 01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:29,680 Speaker 4: of the box. Yeah, so he's he's way above parallel. 2672 01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:31,640 Speaker 4: It's not that he's not strong or that there's not 2673 01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:34,400 Speaker 4: a point to doing this, but given the depth, and 2674 01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:36,360 Speaker 4: this is called a safety squad bar, which puts the 2675 01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:38,720 Speaker 4: weight in a more ba It pitches you forward, but 2676 01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:40,800 Speaker 4: it's a little bit more balanced because it's not it's 2677 01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:42,160 Speaker 4: different axial pressure. 2678 01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,880 Speaker 1: It's impressive, but it's not like crazy impressive. That's all. 2679 01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:48,640 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. 2680 01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:50,560 Speaker 3: I mean, this does remind me of that time Phil 2681 01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:51,960 Speaker 3: Simms did like sixty pull ups. 2682 01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,160 Speaker 1: You're like that, Hey did he did pull up? He 2683 01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:56,560 Speaker 1: did zero pull ups? He did zero pull up. 2684 01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:58,200 Speaker 3: Hey, I could do a whole segment on poets on 2685 01:54:58,240 --> 01:54:59,560 Speaker 3: every week. He was out in the wild in New 2686 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:02,680 Speaker 3: York City for his birthday with Glover and family. Look, 2687 01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:05,040 Speaker 3: they need a sitcom these two. He jumped on a 2688 01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:08,680 Speaker 3: rickshaw and started started driving Glover around. 2689 01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:12,120 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll admit this is amazing, but I'm also gonna. 2690 01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,840 Speaker 3: Say we're risking over exposing him a little bit and 2691 01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:16,400 Speaker 3: risking him in New York traffic. 2692 01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:18,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, also get a fucking helmet. You're in the middle 2693 01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:21,720 Speaker 4: of Broadway here. But this bit is amazing. 2694 01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:25,720 Speaker 3: Luke in Anaheim for the diz Moswital fight, Real recognized 2695 01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:31,920 Speaker 3: real backstage, when Ryan Garcia and bj Penn caught up 2696 01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,000 Speaker 3: with each other. 2697 01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:40,640 Speaker 1: Is this the conversation between Einstein and Yeah? 2698 01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,120 Speaker 3: I hope, I hope they weren't talking to each other 2699 01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,560 Speaker 3: for too long. Let's separate this, so let's not let 2700 01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:48,240 Speaker 3: them conspire together. No, this is what I don't like 2701 01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:49,320 Speaker 3: so Ryan Garcia put out. 2702 01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:50,600 Speaker 1: In the part I mean that was a bunch of bullshit. 2703 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:52,920 Speaker 3: No, he put out an apology video at his ex 2704 01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:55,520 Speaker 3: for breaking into our house and accusing her and growing 2705 01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,200 Speaker 3: and it seemed heartfelt. But then he was like, I 2706 01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:01,720 Speaker 3: am going to rehab, but not yet, not for another month. 2707 01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:03,960 Speaker 3: I've got some business to do. And then that business 2708 01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:06,600 Speaker 3: was him showing up at influencer events with drinks right like. 2709 01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:09,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, guys, if you're if you have money and 2710 01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:13,000 Speaker 4: you have to go to rehab, you just go. Yeah, 2711 01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:16,000 Speaker 4: they'll let you in almost most cases in most states. 2712 01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:17,080 Speaker 4: Right away Nation. 2713 01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:20,080 Speaker 3: Instills with David Crosby famously on the helicopter and he 2714 01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:22,080 Speaker 3: said he'd only go if he can shoot heroin on 2715 01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:24,520 Speaker 3: the helicopter ride there to rehab. Yeah, that's what a 2716 01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:25,440 Speaker 3: real rock star would. 2717 01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:28,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, you have to just go. You don't like 2718 01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:30,280 Speaker 4: planing it like it's a fucking. 2719 01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:32,040 Speaker 1: I know that worries me for Ryan, but there's a 2720 01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:33,000 Speaker 1: lot that worries me for Ryan. 2721 01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:35,680 Speaker 3: Hey, uh no, say ITA's going. He's a big concert head, 2722 01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:37,400 Speaker 3: by the way, that's why he's good for the nineties 2723 01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:39,320 Speaker 3: thing that we used to have the nineties counter he's 2724 01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:41,440 Speaker 3: going to see Third Eye Blind and Blink one eighty 2725 01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,080 Speaker 3: two in the next five days, right now, I'm. 2726 01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,120 Speaker 1: Sorry to hear that, right, Luke, Yeah, in the next week. 2727 01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:46,240 Speaker 3: Here's what you can expect. 2728 01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:48,880 Speaker 1: No one would ever mistake you for being anything other 2729 01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:49,800 Speaker 1: than white. Let me tell you. 2730 01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:52,720 Speaker 3: Here's what you can expect, Luke from Blink twin eighty 2731 01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:53,400 Speaker 3: two this weekend. 2732 01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:56,520 Speaker 1: I can't hear it. 2733 01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:59,480 Speaker 3: You're not supposed to You're supposed to watch, Okay, okay, 2734 01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:00,760 Speaker 3: that they're gonna little handsy, Luke. 2735 01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:02,520 Speaker 1: This reminds me of the live show that we. 2736 01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:04,080 Speaker 3: Do is just Jake Paul and Mike Perry. I mean, 2737 01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:04,520 Speaker 3: look at that. 2738 01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:08,560 Speaker 1: I will have sex with you with me. 2739 01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:11,640 Speaker 3: I put them in Green Day in the same category 2740 01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:12,640 Speaker 3: where it's like, did I. 2741 01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:13,920 Speaker 1: Like the experience Green Days? Better? 2742 01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:14,200 Speaker 3: Listen? 2743 01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:16,360 Speaker 1: Did I like the experience when they were on top? Yes? 2744 01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:18,160 Speaker 3: But are they both overrated? Yes? 2745 01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm seeing Green Day as well, and like, yeah, they're overraded. 2746 01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:23,640 Speaker 3: Look, they're both overrated, let's be honest. And they're very 2747 01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:25,360 Speaker 3: good at their peaks, but they're both over. 2748 01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:29,160 Speaker 1: What's the best Green Day song? Anything from Dukie Oh 2749 01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:30,640 Speaker 1: Whoa and the Deer jumped in. What do you say, deer, 2750 01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,280 Speaker 1: said American Idiot. I want to say she Yeah, she 2751 01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:34,840 Speaker 1: is a great song. She's a great song, dude. So 2752 01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:36,640 Speaker 1: this is the they got some hits, They got some hits. 2753 01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:39,440 Speaker 2: You the thirty year anniversary of Dukie and the twenty 2754 01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:42,160 Speaker 2: year anniversary or of American Idiot. They're playing both albums 2755 01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:42,600 Speaker 2: in full. 2756 01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:45,480 Speaker 1: No, I don't care you love it, I don't care. 2757 01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,920 Speaker 3: Bumper stickers of the week's time, Luke, let's read these 2758 01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:50,560 Speaker 3: keep honking. 2759 01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how my glasses. 2760 01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:56,320 Speaker 4: I'm getting sucked off by a blowjob robot completely powered 2761 01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,800 Speaker 4: by the sound of car honks, and I'm about to bust. 2762 01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:05,000 Speaker 1: Is that better or worse than this one? Luke's see 2763 01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:09,080 Speaker 1: what you got. If this van's a riting, I'm in here, 2764 01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:09,960 Speaker 1: master Banks. 2765 01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:12,840 Speaker 3: Very honest, very honest presentation from the. 2766 01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:14,480 Speaker 5: Luke. 2767 01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,320 Speaker 3: We haven't done rate that tat in a while. I 2768 01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:18,440 Speaker 3: want you to give me a numeric score, one being 2769 01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:22,000 Speaker 3: the worst, ten being very very great. On all these tattoos, 2770 01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:23,680 Speaker 3: here we go. You have f C style on the 2771 01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:26,720 Speaker 3: first one. Here's the Lioness. 2772 01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:29,680 Speaker 1: Umm, it's okay, it's okay. 2773 01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:30,720 Speaker 3: That's on someone's nipple. 2774 01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:34,680 Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, I was a little much, but it's okay. 2775 01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:35,720 Speaker 3: What's the score? 2776 01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:39,280 Speaker 1: One to ten? Six? Be the arbiter of justice here? 2777 01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:40,800 Speaker 3: Six? So I thought you were gonna go two on 2778 01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:42,160 Speaker 3: that one. Let's go to the next. 2779 01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:43,879 Speaker 1: One here, maybe five. I don't have my glasses. 2780 01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:46,640 Speaker 3: What do you think of this hand crane tattoo? One 2781 01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:47,080 Speaker 3: out of ten? 2782 01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:51,320 Speaker 1: Zero? It's creative, right, it's gimmicky. Zero. 2783 01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:53,920 Speaker 3: Okay, let's go to let's get some cat tats in here. 2784 01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:57,480 Speaker 3: I need this for Reggie Jackson fronto, Luke, Would you 2785 01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:59,680 Speaker 3: seriously if I got that on my form at that 2786 01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:01,840 Speaker 3: level of quality? I want your score and I want 2787 01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:03,400 Speaker 3: what you would think of me as a person if 2788 01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:04,520 Speaker 3: I got Reggie Jackson. 2789 01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:05,920 Speaker 1: Again, you can do you can sort of discuss the 2790 01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:07,760 Speaker 1: aesthetics of it and whether it appeals to you or not. 2791 01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:09,120 Speaker 1: As a tattoo. That's a nine. 2792 01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:11,720 Speaker 3: That's a solid, tremendous would to me. 2793 01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:13,400 Speaker 1: That's a very high quality tattoo. 2794 01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:15,960 Speaker 3: Because Reggie, as much as he's this most selfish animal 2795 01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:17,920 Speaker 3: of all time, Luke, and he's an asshole to everyone 2796 01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:20,840 Speaker 3: else in the family, and that kid loves me so much. 2797 01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm that kid. 2798 01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like a son to me, would you would 2799 01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:25,960 Speaker 3: you disrespect me if I showed up with. 2800 01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:27,680 Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson, right, I would not disrespect him. 2801 01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:29,720 Speaker 3: What if I showed up with Amandy Hebus and Emily 2802 01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:31,760 Speaker 3: Wittmeyer like mister Hebuss's tattoo. 2803 01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:32,560 Speaker 1: I would disrespect you. 2804 01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,800 Speaker 3: Just a better version of it? One more cat one 2805 01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:40,360 Speaker 3: for you. I want your rate, creative. 2806 01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:41,000 Speaker 1: That's a zero. 2807 01:59:41,120 --> 01:59:44,240 Speaker 3: Oh, come on, it's a zero and Luca two more 2808 01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:45,040 Speaker 3: for you on the tats. 2809 01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:46,320 Speaker 1: I thought maybe a one. 2810 01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:47,640 Speaker 3: You'll give it one on that. 2811 01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:49,120 Speaker 1: Okay, this is Doc Hollic. 2812 01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:51,000 Speaker 4: So this is a guy you see with their handshake 2813 01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:54,840 Speaker 4: snake tattoos. He's out of West Virginia. He does these 2814 01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:59,440 Speaker 4: like orange and white like silhouettes or you know, drawings 2815 01:59:59,480 --> 01:59:59,880 Speaker 4: on top. 2816 01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:00,839 Speaker 1: Of a a black background. 2817 02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:03,560 Speaker 4: Yes, he this is a ten out of ten as 2818 02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:07,920 Speaker 4: far as that is a fucking coolish, ridiculously good tech. 2819 02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:09,760 Speaker 3: Not only high quality cool as ship. 2820 02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:11,400 Speaker 1: I think he's an MMA fan, by the way. 2821 02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:12,080 Speaker 3: Finally, Luke, we. 2822 02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Got a Star Wars inspired one. Can you, uh, Mesa, 2823 02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:17,000 Speaker 1: What's I can't read on homoglasses? 2824 02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:17,080 Speaker 2: No? 2825 02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:18,680 Speaker 3: See can you read that? I can't read it either? 2826 02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Mesa? Heard you? Sa bad boy? 2827 02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:25,320 Speaker 3: So it's a dominatrix jar jar tattoo. 2828 02:00:25,480 --> 02:00:26,879 Speaker 1: It's a negative eight billion. 2829 02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:30,800 Speaker 3: All right, let's see why people get injured, Luke. They say, 2830 02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:32,800 Speaker 3: don't text and bike. Have you heard that? 2831 02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:37,120 Speaker 1: That's pretty good advice. I'm wehere in Europe a go 2832 02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:39,600 Speaker 1: into the fucking bushes there, you dumb fuck. 2833 02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:42,480 Speaker 3: Let's go to the carnival. There's like a pitch machine, 2834 02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:43,760 Speaker 3: you know. People try to see how hard they can 2835 02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:44,000 Speaker 3: throw it. 2836 02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:44,240 Speaker 1: Luke. 2837 02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:50,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it turns out pretty hard. 2838 02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Look, that's a metaphor for life. Dad h T. 2839 02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:57,760 Speaker 3: Shirt of the week time. Let's see. We got a 2840 02:00:57,760 --> 02:00:58,560 Speaker 3: couple of good ones here. 2841 02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:02,240 Speaker 4: If it's illegal to deep throat corn dogs with my butthole, 2842 02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:04,160 Speaker 4: then lock me up. 2843 02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:06,480 Speaker 3: It's an American T shirt right there. 2844 02:01:06,640 --> 02:01:08,560 Speaker 1: If you don't wear that on next week's show, I'm quitting. 2845 02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:09,120 Speaker 1: All right. 2846 02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:10,920 Speaker 3: Well, I'm a big backer of New England, Luke, where 2847 02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:12,200 Speaker 3: I'm from? What do you think about this one? 2848 02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:19,200 Speaker 1: Call me New England because I've got massive, huge tits Massachusetts. 2849 02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's come on, that's good. You're five, 2850 02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:24,920 Speaker 1: you're five. You wanted more Jim Jim ridiculousness. So this 2851 02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,680 Speaker 1: is your What is going on here? Someone said, this 2852 02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:30,120 Speaker 1: was five sets of Chris beIN wish like. 2853 02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:34,240 Speaker 6: I know? 2854 02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:36,040 Speaker 1: Is does he? I didn't say it? 2855 02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:38,480 Speaker 3: I mean, is that an exercise? Or can he not stop? 2856 02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:38,720 Speaker 1: Is he? 2857 02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:39,040 Speaker 5: So? 2858 02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:42,200 Speaker 4: What you're supposed to be doing here is doing crunches, 2859 02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:45,200 Speaker 4: but he's doing it in every wrong way possible. 2860 02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:47,800 Speaker 3: All right, let's get high here, Luke. This one's called 2861 02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:50,080 Speaker 3: breakfast for stoners. What do you think about this innovation? 2862 02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:54,880 Speaker 1: Holy shit? Who is this young lady? How do I 2863 02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:55,280 Speaker 1: meet it? 2864 02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:57,800 Speaker 3: We need to hire her for the show? Question about it? 2865 02:01:58,120 --> 02:02:01,200 Speaker 1: Ude? Stoner engineering makes the world around. 2866 02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:04,200 Speaker 3: Some people also can combine talents of balance. Look, let's 2867 02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:05,480 Speaker 3: see this bicycle bong trick. 2868 02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:07,040 Speaker 1: Here? Have we seen this before? I feel like I 2869 02:02:07,120 --> 02:02:08,280 Speaker 1: have not seen this? Oh good? 2870 02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:09,760 Speaker 3: Then look at this wizard. 2871 02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:11,440 Speaker 1: What beach is this? 2872 02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:13,040 Speaker 3: I don't I think it's a public park? 2873 02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right? Where is this again? Stupid as fuck? 2874 02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:19,320 Speaker 1: But cool? 2875 02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:21,560 Speaker 3: King Tut there's a King Tut exhibit there? 2876 02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:25,000 Speaker 1: Where is that? I don't know? In DC? But the 2877 02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:26,040 Speaker 1: ain't DC, so I don't know. 2878 02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:28,520 Speaker 3: And one more for you, Luke, I said, I have 2879 02:02:28,640 --> 02:02:30,560 Speaker 3: said many times I would not play this guy on 2880 02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:32,720 Speaker 3: the air, you know, the Asian guy us p I whatever. 2881 02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Who has yank stuff away and he's got I. 2882 02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:36,640 Speaker 3: Told you I would never play this guy again, but 2883 02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:37,760 Speaker 3: sometimes he delivers. 2884 02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:40,680 Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, that's gross. 2885 02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:43,360 Speaker 3: This is how you be self sufficient. You live off 2886 02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:44,480 Speaker 3: the you live off the land. 2887 02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:44,720 Speaker 1: Luke. 2888 02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:46,800 Speaker 3: Watch what he's doing to make this breakfast. 2889 02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:52,000 Speaker 1: All right? This is this is self sufficient pancakes, Luke. 2890 02:02:52,040 --> 02:03:03,240 Speaker 1: This is how you This is the most disgusting, unappetizing. Okay, okay, 2891 02:03:03,440 --> 02:03:09,400 Speaker 1: the bit got better the big Oh my god, come 2892 02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:11,480 Speaker 1: on that guy. That guy's in there. Have you seen 2893 02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:13,480 Speaker 1: the ship Hall of Fame? Okay? That one, that one 2894 02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:14,360 Speaker 1: work that won't work. 2895 02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:15,560 Speaker 3: That's the ship of the week. 2896 02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:16,200 Speaker 1: I hope you saw it. 2897 02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:18,160 Speaker 3: We have to catch the train, but real quick, real quick, 2898 02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:20,280 Speaker 3: I have a gift for you. Finally, we talked about 2899 02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:23,000 Speaker 3: this behind the scenes. A lot shout out to student Glass. 2900 02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:25,520 Speaker 1: You know that company I'm not familiar who. 2901 02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:29,360 Speaker 3: Makes fine water bongs. Apparently Luken makes fine smoking equipment. 2902 02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:31,880 Speaker 4: They have oh this is the premiere brand in like 2903 02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:33,400 Speaker 4: fabrication of bongs. 2904 02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:35,760 Speaker 3: Yes, and they have a currently have a grateful deadline. 2905 02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,080 Speaker 3: They have a Mike Tyson line, and they have sent 2906 02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:42,200 Speaker 3: us some incredible uh samples if you will, including this 2907 02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:45,000 Speaker 3: incredible vape system that Long Island Luke has and I 2908 02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:47,160 Speaker 3: wanted to, you know, win you over, Luke with this 2909 02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:50,600 Speaker 3: Mike Tyson inspired g pen which you put the bud 2910 02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:52,200 Speaker 3: right in there. I opened it for you. Look if 2911 02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:52,960 Speaker 3: you want to check it out. 2912 02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:53,880 Speaker 1: Okay, let's see. 2913 02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:58,680 Speaker 3: And it vapes the bud right there, that flower in here, yes, 2914 02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:02,720 Speaker 3: don't take the yep. And Long Island Luke already figured 2915 02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:03,400 Speaker 3: out how to do it. 2916 02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:04,080 Speaker 1: How do I like? 2917 02:04:04,160 --> 02:04:04,560 Speaker 7: Oh? 2918 02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:06,880 Speaker 1: I just yeah, well is it charged? 2919 02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:10,000 Speaker 3: It is charged. I charged it last night for you, Luke. 2920 02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:16,400 Speaker 3: I also received the Mike Tyson line Student Glass Gravity. 2921 02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:19,360 Speaker 3: Oh it's magnetized look and Luke I saw it an 2922 02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:20,640 Speaker 3: action last night. 2923 02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:27,400 Speaker 1: Okay, all right? And the reviews stellar ten out. 2924 02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:30,280 Speaker 3: Of ten does not begin to describe what student Glasses 2925 02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:33,440 Speaker 3: Tyson water bom can do for this type of h 2926 02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:36,560 Speaker 3: this type of recreational activity. Luke talk about taking it 2927 02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:39,560 Speaker 3: to the next level. Uh, it's a science project and 2928 02:04:39,600 --> 02:04:42,600 Speaker 3: it flips and it bubbles, and it is as smooth 2929 02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:45,320 Speaker 3: and potent as anything you could ever imagine taking your 2930 02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:47,000 Speaker 3: street level bud to. 2931 02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:50,000 Speaker 1: You know, I will use this. This is actually super 2932 02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:50,680 Speaker 1: handy for me. 2933 02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:53,760 Speaker 3: Seah, I told you I will reach around and make 2934 02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:54,280 Speaker 3: your day better. 2935 02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:55,360 Speaker 1: Lou, we will have sex. 2936 02:04:56,160 --> 02:04:58,600 Speaker 3: Shout out to student Glass, Luke, I need you to 2937 02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:00,000 Speaker 3: get it to I couldn't bring. 2938 02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:02,360 Speaker 4: Is putting his name on a lot of things these days. 2939 02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:04,000 Speaker 4: I will say that because you can buy Tyson like 2940 02:05:04,040 --> 02:05:05,480 Speaker 4: regular vapes like no weed vapes. 2941 02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:09,000 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. This is very nice of you. 2942 02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:13,240 Speaker 3: There's other products that they make. Everything is top shelf, 2943 02:05:13,480 --> 02:05:15,240 Speaker 3: eye class. If you want to merge the worlds of 2944 02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:18,200 Speaker 3: boxing and Mike Tyson together with this recreational activity, these 2945 02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:20,280 Speaker 3: products could change your life, you know that. Want to 2946 02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:21,840 Speaker 3: show you the video of Tyson. We spin it in 2947 02:05:21,880 --> 02:05:24,360 Speaker 3: the bubbles up and they got the hookah string. I 2948 02:05:24,440 --> 02:05:26,640 Speaker 3: mean it's it comes with so many cleaning tools. Look 2949 02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:29,000 Speaker 3: gets the most incredible piece of operation I've ever looked 2950 02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:30,920 Speaker 3: at or seen. People say, you know, can a one 2951 02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:32,840 Speaker 3: thousand dollars bottle of wine be really worth it? Can 2952 02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:36,400 Speaker 3: a six hundred dollars bong be really worth it? Yeah? 2953 02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:39,520 Speaker 1: It'll change your life, especially when they're free. There you go. 2954 02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:41,440 Speaker 3: Shout out to student class, Hey, shout out to Long 2955 02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:43,520 Speaker 3: Island Luke Kenna, Dear all our guys, here we had 2956 02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:45,440 Speaker 3: a great show, Luke, shout out to you, shout out to. 2957 02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:48,360 Speaker 1: Our great partners, and shout out to say mobile to 2958 02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:50,440 Speaker 1: uh what our producer Matt. 2959 02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:52,800 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, Matt Snyder who had step back in the 2960 02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:53,880 Speaker 3: family and we love him. 2961 02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:58,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. This where we're sending our our We're thinking about you. 2962 02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:01,080 Speaker 1: We love you. Matt. Shout out to you. 2963 02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:03,160 Speaker 3: He's been behind the scenes one of the many scenes 2964 02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:06,120 Speaker 3: this day one really some day one ish from Matt Snighter. 2965 02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:08,400 Speaker 3: So much love for that gentleman, right there, no doubt 2966 02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:11,000 Speaker 3: about it. That's it, Luke, that's the show. 2967 02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:13,120 Speaker 4: We'll be back Friday. We'll have another free MK Friday. 2968 02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:17,360 Speaker 4: We'll get you ready for Perry and Paul and that's it. 2969 02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:18,240 Speaker 4: We're gonna have a good time. 2970 02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:18,600 Speaker 1: There. 2971 02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:20,680 Speaker 3: It is whom, in fact, there it is. This is 2972 02:06:20,720 --> 02:06:22,120 Speaker 3: Morning Combat. This is what we do. 2973 02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for watching. We are out of here.