1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: The so called glam yoga teacher killer Caitlyn Armstrong has 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: made an underhanded, sneaky move to avoid paying the family 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: of her murder victim, world class cycling star Mariah Wilson, 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: fifteen million dollars. Now the glam yoga teacher is hit 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: with a new lawsuit. Who could forget the glam yoga 7 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: teacher Kaitlyn Armstrong furious her boyfriend had a hamburger and 8 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: went swimming with his former girlfriend, a world class dirt 9 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: bike competitor, Moe Wilson. 10 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: So what did she do? She murdered Moe. 11 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: Shot her in cold blood after stalking her. 12 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: She was convicted at trial. 13 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: And oh yes, remember she went on the run, hiding 14 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: out at a hostel in Costa Rica after getting a 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: nose job, going under a different name. Yeah that one. 16 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: Now another sneaky, underhanded move. Are you surprised? I Nancy Grace, 17 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: this is Crime Stories, Thanks for being with us. The 18 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: jealous yoga teacher who murdered her younger love rival with 19 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: a bullet through the heart literally quietly transferred all her 20 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: property to relatives. Why to avoid compensating her victims family. 21 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: According to a new lawsuit, the thirty six year old 22 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: yoga teacher was sent us to ninety years behind bars 23 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: for gunning down a Texas cycling superstar, Anna Mariah Moe Wilson, just. 24 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: Twenty five, in a rage at Moe's. 25 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: Friendship with Armstrong's cyclist boyfriend, Colin Strickland. In the last days, 26 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: a judge ordered Caitlin Armstrong to pay Wilson's parents fifteen 27 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: million dollars after they sued her for the wrongful death 28 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: of their daughter. But a brand new lawsuit from the 29 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: couple from the parents claims that most, if not all, 30 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: of Armstrong's assets have already been passed to Armstrong's mother 31 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: and sister, so most family gets nothing. Again, are you surprised? 32 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: How did the whole thing start? 33 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Let's kick it off. Take a listen to our friends 34 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: at Fox seven. 35 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: Police are investigating a suspicious death in East Austin. This 36 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: happened on Maple Avenue near East seventeenth Street overnight. A 37 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: woman called police saying she found her friend inside her 38 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: house unresponsive and. 39 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: There was blood near her. 40 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: When officers arrived, they found the victim had gunshot wounds. 41 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: It has provided life saving measures, but the woman later 42 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: died from her injuries. Police do not know how long 43 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 3: she was inside the home, but did call her death suspicious. 44 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 3: It is unclear if a gun was found. 45 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: On see suspicious man. 46 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: They're saying pretty calm, multiple gunshot wounds. I would say, yeah, 47 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: that's suspicious. I can go ahead and answer that for 48 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: the cops. Take a listen now to our friend John 49 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: crin Jack Fox seven tonight, we're. 50 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: Learning the victim of a deadly shooting in East Austin 51 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: earlier this week was a well known cyclist who is 52 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 4: supposed to take part in a mountain bike race in 53 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 4: the Hill Country today. Anna Wilson, better known by her 54 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: middle name Mariah, was pronounced dead on Wednesday night at 55 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: home on Maple Avenue near Eighteenth Street. 56 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: Austin. 57 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: Police were called there after a friend of Wilson's returned 58 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: home to find the twenty five year old unconscious with 59 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: gunshot wounds. APD has not believed the shooting was random. 60 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: They're urging anyone with information or video of what happened 61 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: to give. 62 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: Them a call now. 63 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: According to the cycling magazine Vello, Wilson was in Texas 64 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: ahead of today's Gravel Low Cost race in Hiko, where 65 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: she was a favorite. Win Bellow published a statement from 66 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: her family saying she was quote always pushing tirelessly to 67 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 4: reach her goals. We knew she was pursuing that which 68 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: she loved, the family adding, we know Mariah would want 69 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: the event to carry on. 70 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: You know, when I hear the address Maple Avenue, that 71 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: sounds straight out of a storybook. And from what I've learned, 72 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: this is a pretty ritzy area there in Austin. Joining 73 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: me an all star panel, But let me first go 74 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: straight out to Tony Plahetski, longtime friend, colleague, investigative reporter 75 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: with The Austin American Statesman and kV U E Twitter 76 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: at t Plahetski. Tony, tell me about East Austin. I 77 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: got the word gentrified from you. What do you mean 78 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: by that? I mean Maple Avenue. 79 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: It sounds like it's out of a fable, a book. 80 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: It sounds so peaceful and idyllic. 81 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: To have somebody the number one female grap cyclist in 82 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: the world gunned down dead and apartment doesn't fit with 83 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: Maple Avenue well. 84 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 5: So, over the years, this area of East Austin has 85 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 5: truly been transformed. 86 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, tony plohatsk. You just stop right there. 87 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: Let me just call it like it is. It reminds 88 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: me of when I moved to Atlanta and started prosecuting 89 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: at Inner City Atlanta's Fulton District Attorney's office. 90 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: I lived in Midtown, and at that. 91 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: Time, every morning when I would come out of my apartment, 92 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: I'd go to my car and there'd be gin bottles 93 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: and pantyhose, syringes, rubbers, empty bottles of liquor, and pantyhose 94 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: because hookers and attics would come up and down my 95 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: alley where I lived to shoot up and conduct business. 96 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 1: Let me just say then it went gentrified. 97 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: People that wanted to live close to all the high 98 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: rise skyscrapers and businesses downtown wanted to move there. 99 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: They pump their money into it, fixed it all up. 100 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: Everybody had laws and fancy apartments and fancy cars. 101 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: I had to move. I couldn't afford it anymore. Is 102 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: that what you're saying. 103 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 5: That's exactly what I'm saying. It is a carbon copy 104 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 5: of what you just described. And so this area where 105 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 5: Mariah Wilson was murdered is now home to high ride 106 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 5: apartments town homes that are very trendy. A lot of 107 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 5: young people in our city live in this area who 108 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 5: have moved to Austin from all over the country to 109 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 5: work in tech, for example, and so it's really an 110 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 5: area dominated increasingly by that population. 111 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: I know what you mean. 112 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: Gin bottles and pantyhose in the alley one day, then 113 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 2: valet parking and high rises the next day. 114 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: I get it. 115 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: What I'm getting at is there's a very low crime 116 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: rate on Maple Avenue. Take a listen to our friends 117 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: Carissa Lemoukel on Fox seven Surprise Everybody. 118 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 6: East Austin resident Michael Harris is talking about what happened 119 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 6: the night of May eleventh. Shocked to hear that a 120 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 6: young prominent cyclist was shot and killed while staying in 121 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 6: the house across the street. 122 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 7: Lived here almost two years and I've never maybe seen 123 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 7: two police calls passed by. 124 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 8: This is where this neighborhood is. 125 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 6: Twenty five year old Mariah Wilson was in Texas to 126 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 6: compete in an upcoming race, coming off a win at 127 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 6: the Belgian Waffle Ride in California. 128 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 9: We all just marveled at, you know, just flit in 129 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 9: a wonderful personality and a great athlete and an ambassador 130 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 9: for our support, and then all of a sudden, how 131 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 9: could this happen? And everyone's just sort of reeling from it. 132 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: In addition to reporter Carissa, you're also hearing from the 133 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 2: director of the Belgian Waffle Ride in California, Michael Marx. 134 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: Everyone knew her and love her. 135 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: Now when I hear gravel cycling, it's hard enough to 136 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: race in sand to get your bike to go through. 137 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: So why are you looking at me like that, Jackie? 138 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: Are you imagining trying to ride a bike through. 139 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: Sand much less gravel? Tell me about this. What is is, 140 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: Tony Plahetsky. 141 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: It's an endurance sport. I mean it is where the yeah, 142 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 5: I mean really really a very competitive sport across the country, 143 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 5: really across the world. And Mariah Wilson, as you mentioned, 144 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: was a star in that world. She had already a 145 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 5: mass a certain amount of acclaim, but she was really 146 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 5: on her way. Even her competitors, her most fierce competitors, 147 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 5: admired her and her stamina, her just natural born athleticism, 148 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 5: but also nancy her personality. I mean, when they talk 149 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 5: about her, they actually don't lead with the fact that 150 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 5: she was this amazing athlete they lead with talking about 151 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 5: her kindness and her spirit. 152 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 153 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: Mariah Wilson cut down, murdered in the prime of her life, 154 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: a world class cyclist. She had once dated Colin Strickland, 155 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: but it was over. When she was in town to 156 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: compete again, the two went swimming and had a. 157 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: Hamburger and she gets shot dead for that. 158 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: Mariah's parents, Eric and Karen sought one million dollars compensation 159 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: for funeral expenses, loss of society, companionship, and the pain 160 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: and suffering and anguish her daughter suffered at the time 161 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: of her murder. So what does Caitlin Armstrong do? Secretly 162 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: transfers all of her money, all of her assets, vehicles, 163 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: everything to her mom and sister to avoid paying the 164 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: victim's family. 165 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: I can't believe this woman. Back to the facts. 166 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: Joseph Scott Moregun the host of a hit new series 167 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: Body Bags with Joseph Scott Moregun on iHeart Joe Scott 168 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: just right off the bat. This woman, I can tell 169 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: you she's in a single dwelling apartment, she's unarmed, and 170 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: she's shot multiple times. 171 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't like it. 172 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: We don't have any evidence of rape or burglary. So 173 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: why is somebody coming into this apartment if there was 174 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: in fact break in and gutting her down multiple times? 175 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 10: Yeah. One of the things that kind of interests me 176 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 10: is that when she was found, she was not found 177 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 10: in like the foyer. She wasn't found at the entrance. 178 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 10: She was actually found in the bathroom, which gives me 179 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 10: an indication that unless there is an obvious sign that 180 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 10: someone kicked in the door or you know, pried open 181 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 10: a window or maybe entered through a back door, even 182 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 10: if there was a back door, that this may have 183 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 10: been a location of retreat, you know, when people are 184 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 10: being attacked. 185 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,239 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't can I just ask you out of curiosity? 186 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: Everything you said, I'm down with that, But why don't 187 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: you just say she was in the bathroom? 188 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: Makes me think she ran ran from her attacker and 189 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: hid in the bathroom. 190 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 10: Well, because I. 191 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Mean, does it ever dawn on you just talk like 192 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: the rest of us. 193 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: No, Okay, go ahead, I respect that. 194 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 10: No, it just it just grassed me. You know, the 195 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 10: moment that I read this and heard it. You know 196 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 10: the fact that she was in the bathroom. You know, 197 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 10: who feels comfortable with entering the bathroom with someone else. 198 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 10: Maybe she's retreated to that point, maybe she was forced 199 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 10: in there. You know, when you know one of the 200 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 10: things like if you have bad weather, people tell you 201 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 10: to retreat to the bathroom is generally the most secure 202 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 10: area in the house, if you don't have a basement 203 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 10: or something, and it could be an area where sound 204 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 10: is muffled. For instance, because Nancy when they found her, 205 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 10: her body is bloodsoaked and there are and this is 206 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 10: very key, there are multiple spent shell casings laying about 207 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 10: her body in this approximate area as well. 208 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: Okay, stop right there, she's in the bathroom. You think 209 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: there's a very good chance she ran to the bathroom. 210 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: I agree on multiple spent shell casings around her. That 211 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: tells me this is not a pro because you would 212 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: take the time to pick them up. Shell Nutt with me. 213 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: Also James shell Nutt twenty seven years a Metro major 214 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: case also swap now lawyer with a shell Nutt firm 215 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: on Twitter at shell nut Law Firm. Right there, we 216 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: know it's someone that's not a pro because the pro 217 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: after the killing would pick up the shell casings because they, 218 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: just like a bullet, can be matched back like a 219 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: fingerprint to the weapon, because once you get, if you 220 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: ever get the murder weapon, when the shell comes out, 221 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 2: there is an ejector mark the shell. Although it may 222 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: not hurl down, the barrel is ejected. 223 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Think of an ejection seat in a plane. 224 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: The shell is ejected out and the force of leaving 225 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: the weapon leaves a mark on the shell unlike any 226 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: other marking from any other gun on a shell. 227 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: Agree, disagree, shall not agree? 228 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 8: One hundred and what that allows you to do is 229 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 8: to go back and do further investigation to see if 230 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 8: a person that you suspect being involved in a crime 231 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 8: had access to a weapon that would leave that type 232 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 8: of strike mark on the showcase. 233 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: Guys, take a listen to our cut fifteen, Our cut 234 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: fifteen from crime Online. 235 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: Why is Mariah also known as Moe in Texas to race? Listen? 236 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 11: Anna Moe Wilson was in Texas to race the Gravel 237 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 11: Locos competition was a one hundred and fifty mile race 238 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 11: in a discipline that blends mountain biking and road cycling. 239 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 11: It's a profession new to Wilson. She had recently quit 240 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 11: her job with the mic company specialized to focus on 241 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 11: cycling full time. Wilson had won ten off road races 242 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 11: this year, including an eighty kilometer race at the Sea 243 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 11: Otter Classic, a cycling festival in Monterey, California. 244 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: So she was there strictly for business. Back to you, 245 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: Tony Plhetsky, where was she staying? Whose apartment? 246 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: Was this? 247 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 5: A friend, a longtime friend who who does live in Austin, 248 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 5: And that friend had actually picked her up at the 249 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 5: airport and given her a special code and access code 250 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 5: to her apartment so that she could go and come 251 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 5: as she pleased. And so that's what Mariah Wilson had done. 252 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 5: I mean, there are other things that she had been 253 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 5: doing out on the town while she had been here 254 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 5: just a couple of days actually, by the time that 255 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 5: she had been found in. 256 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: Just a couple of days in Austin. And now she's dead. 257 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: With me, Tony Plhetski is joining as Tony with the 258 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: Austin American Statesman. I'm glad you mentioned that code, that 259 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: special access code. Take a listen to hour cut seventeen. 260 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: Our friends at crime online dot Com. 261 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 11: At first, suspecting a robbery, police in cash check the home. 262 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 11: The only thing missing was Anna Wilson's specialized s works bicycle. 263 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 11: As officers checked the area, Wilson's bicycle was found around 264 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 11: sixty eight feet south of Cash's home, hidden in thick bamboo. 265 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 11: The investigation quickly turned from interrupted robbery to homicide as 266 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 11: Cash explained that she has specialized electronic locks on her 267 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 11: door that unlocked by using a unique code. Cash It 268 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 11: provided Wilson with a new code, with Cash getting a 269 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 11: phone notification when the door is either locked or unlocked. 270 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 11: At eight thirty six pm, Wilson came home. 271 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: You know that's very very interesting. Let me go to 272 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: another special guest joining us. It is Runya Mancarius CEO 273 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: Crime Stoppers of Houston, author of the online world What 274 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: You Think you Know and What You Don't. You can 275 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: find her at ruanyamncurius dot com. 276 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: Runya, thank you for being with us so very. 277 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: Much and for all of your hard work with Crime 278 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: Stoppers of Houston. 279 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: Runya. When I was writing. 280 00:16:54,640 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: Don't Be a Victim, I researched about how you, of course, 281 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: should always change your code on everything You've got, your iPad, 282 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: your cell phone, you're recording your home answering machine if 283 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: you have one, your code in and out of your home, 284 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: your gate code, everything. 285 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: Don't leave it on a factory set because you can 286 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: look that up online, and. 287 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: Predators do look it up online to find out what 288 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: the factory setting is. And most of the world, believe 289 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: it or not, that has a code. If any type 290 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: puts in one two three four or one one one 291 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: one or two two two two, it's very very simple 292 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: to crack that code. That's when I learned researching for 293 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: Don't Be a victim, that you can have your code 294 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: to get into your apartment like this friend had, and 295 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: then you can give visitors their own code so you 296 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 2: don't have to x out your code every time you 297 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: have a visitor and they leave and come up with 298 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: a new. 299 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: One, which I think is really really smart. When you 300 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: have visitors, you sign them. 301 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: A different code that works with your system. That sounds 302 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: like what happened here, Ronya, Yeah. 303 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 12: And I agreed, And that sounds like what Caitlin Cash did. 304 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 12: She assigned Mariah her own unique code and has since 305 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 12: said that she's erased that code and has changed her code. 306 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 12: But she was doing everything she could to keep herself 307 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 12: safe and to keep her guests faithe But that move, 308 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 12: that very smart move, really is helping law enforcement in 309 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 12: this case, and it's something we advise all people to 310 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 12: do with. We embrace technology and we look to have 311 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 12: smart homes and smart technology in our homes. We want 312 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 12: people to utilize this in a way that keeps them safe. 313 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: So let's get right down to it to doctor Sherry 314 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: Schwartz joining me, forensic psychologist specializing and capital mitigation. She's 315 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: the author of Criminal Behavior and we're a law in 316 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: psychology intersect. 317 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: Doctor Sherry Schwartz, thank. 318 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: You for joining us from Miami Beach today, Doctor Sherry. 319 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: That's when you feel at home. 320 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: You feel at home when you go into a secure 321 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: apartment that you can only get in with a special 322 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: code devised for you. Why am I saying this? Who 323 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: would have had that code? Who could have figured out 324 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: that code? Or could the perp have somehow gotten in 325 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: behind her? Did she not lock the door when she 326 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 2: went in? And following up on what Joe Scott Morgan 327 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: said that it seems as if the victim, this world class, 328 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: gorgeous twenty five year old cyclist, had retreated to the bathroom, 329 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: or maybe she was just in the bathroom, but I 330 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 2: know her defenses were down. Doctor Sherry she thought she 331 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 2: was safe. 332 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 5: Correct she walked through the door. 333 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 13: I mean maybe she did forget to lock it or 334 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 13: didn't maybe thought it was locked. It's a new environment 335 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 13: for her. She's a guest at this location, so maybe 336 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 13: she didn't think about how to lock the door, maybe 337 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 13: thought it locked automatically behind her. But you're right, she 338 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 13: probably felt very safe and secure headed to use the restroom, 339 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 13: like many of us do when we first get home. 340 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 5: So this is nothing unusual. 341 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 10: And if I. 342 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 13: Feel safe and secure in a location, I'm not necessarily 343 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 13: going to be hypervigilant looking for someone, especially if I'm 344 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 13: at home looking for someone who's going to be coming 345 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 13: in behind again. 346 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: Mo Mariah Wilson was a rising star in gravel and 347 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 2: dirt cycling, and she dated Colin Strickland after he had 348 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: broken up with Kitlin Armstrong, the yoga teacher, and their 349 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: relationship continued as a friendship after he got back together 350 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: with Armstrong. So that May, Wilson went to Austin for 351 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 2: a race and she met up with Strickland for supper. 352 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: Kaitlin Armstrong followed. 353 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 2: Them to the restaurant and her black jeep was caught 354 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 2: on surveillance videos circling. 355 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: Round and round the block. What more did the facts 356 00:20:59,320 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: tell us? 357 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: You know what's interesting, Tony Plhetski joining me from the 358 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: Austin American Statesman. Tony, it doesn't sound like there was 359 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: a struggle. I wonder if the person had secret to 360 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: themselves in the home, if they followed in behind her, 361 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: if she didn't lock the door, if she didn't. 362 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: Use the code. 363 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: But I don't hear anything about a struggle ensuing any 364 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: evidence of a struggle. It sounds like Mariah was just shot, 365 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: stone cold dead. 366 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 5: That's exactly right, in a pool of blood on the floor. 367 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 5: And so that is how her friend Caitlin found her, 368 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 5: and that is how the police found her when they arrived. 369 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: Guys, take a listen to our cut sixteen, because I'm 370 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: trying to figure out what happened. Where was this friend 371 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 2: whose apartment she was using, staying there with the friend 372 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: who was it and what happened in the hours leading 373 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: up to this world class cyclist murder. 374 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 11: Fred Caitlyn Cash picked up Wilson at the airport. Wilson 375 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 11: was to stay at Cash's home until the race. The 376 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 11: next day, Cash received a text from Wilson saying that 377 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 11: she was meeting a friend named Colin to go swimming 378 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 11: that afternoon. Around five point thirty, as Cash left to 379 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 11: go meet friends for dinner, she noticed Wilson's large bicycle 380 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 11: travel bag outside the front door on the elevated port. 381 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 11: Cashays she told Wilson to move the bag inside so 382 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 11: it wouldn't be stolen. But when Cash came home from dinner, 383 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 11: the large bicycle travel bag was at the bottom of 384 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 11: the stairs, partially blocking the car port. As she went inside, 385 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 11: the front door was unlocked and Wilson was lying on 386 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 11: the bathroom floor covered in blood. 387 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: Okay, Tony Plahatski joining me, Austin American statesment, I just 388 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: learned a lot. So this is a friend Caitlin Cash, 389 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: that picks her up at the airport, offers her apartment 390 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: up for her to stay, and she was going to 391 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: stay there until the race. The next day. She was 392 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 2: meeting somebody to go swimming. But listen to this part. 393 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: She noticed the travel bag outside in the front door, 394 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: on the front door, on an elevated porch. She told, now, 395 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: first of all, to me, that rules out the friend 396 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: who would be your first suspect, because she's already had 397 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: a chance to kill her when she speak up from 398 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: the airport. 399 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: Also, it's usually not the killer that calls nine one one. Okay, 400 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: just let's start with that. 401 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: But she comes back, she tells her, move your big 402 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: bag with all your gear inside so nobody steals it. 403 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: So that tells me. 404 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: While you're telling me this is a gentrified neighborhood, there 405 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: still could be somebody that would. 406 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: Come along and burgle or steal. I learned that. I 407 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: also learn that the door was unlocked. The front door 408 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: was unlocked. No jimmy ing. 409 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: The door, no primarks, no forced entry, the door was unlocked, 410 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: which leads me to think the victim, Mariah Wilson, in 411 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: suspecting nothing and didn't lock the door. 412 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that that is possible. 413 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 5: The other possibility that we really haven't talked about here, though, Nancy, 414 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 5: is whether or not Mariah Wilson may have known the person, 415 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 5: maybe saw someone outside that she that was known to her. 416 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 5: Let's go in and talk. Could that have happened here? 417 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 5: Could someone have come to the door right behind her 418 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 5: that she knew. I think that is an interesting possibility 419 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 5: as well. 420 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, guys, take a listen. Now, we finally 421 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: get a tiny break in the case. Our cut eighteen 422 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: from Crime Online. 423 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 11: Detectives turned to video as they discover a surveillance camera 424 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 11: mounted on the exterior of a home nearby. The camera 425 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 11: face the driveway next to cash Is home. The footage 426 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 11: showed a dark colored suv drive past at eight thirty 427 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 11: seven pm, that's one minute after Wilson entered Cash's home. 428 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 11: The suv slowed down a period to come to a 429 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 11: stomp directly next to Cash's residence. The suv had a 430 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 11: large bicycle rack mounted on the trailer gitch of the vehicle, 431 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 11: a luggage rack mounted on the roof, and chrome around 432 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 11: the windows. No other vehicles were seen on video surveillance 433 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 11: until emergency vehicles arrived. 434 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: Okay, what did we ever do, James shell Knott before 435 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: video surveillance, ring doorbells, the works. 436 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: So tell me the significance, because in my. 437 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 2: Mind it's going to be tough to explain that this 438 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: black suv was on the scene one minute before. 439 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's pretty significant information. I mean, now 440 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 8: you've got a potential suspect vehicle identified, and if you 441 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 8: can tie that to someone who may have a reason 442 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 8: to have hurt Mode then at that point you've got something, 443 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 8: you're going to want to go back and look and say, okay, 444 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 8: what are the usual suspects? You know, the usual suspects 445 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 8: promotive in murder case is when you don't know who 446 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 8: did it, you're always going to want to look at money, 447 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 8: sex and revenge and can you tie that vehicle to 448 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 8: someone who would have had one of those motives? 449 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: You know, I'm curious to Ronya man Carry is joining 450 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: me with Crime Stoppers of Houston and author The art 451 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: of identifying a vehicle is very, very sophisticated. Every year 452 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: to two years, car manufacturers change subtle portions of the 453 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: make and model. For instance, they may change the tail light. 454 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: They may turn it from two tail light pains to three, 455 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: or they may slant it, or they may change something 456 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: about the bumper or the wheels. I mean it changes 457 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: every couple of years. They don't keep the same exact 458 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: model for a reason. So there are people and car 459 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 2: car theft, stolen cars. Just like there's a homicide squad, 460 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: there's car theft squad. 461 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: There's a burglary squad. 462 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: There is a crimes on children, a crime on women's squad. 463 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: There's a white collar crime squad. So these guys and 464 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 2: women in car theft, they know all of this, and 465 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: if they can get a look at the make and model, 466 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 2: they can tell you the year. 467 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: If they can even get a partial. 468 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: Tag, they can find out who that belongs to fairly quickly. 469 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: Would you agree, run ya? 470 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 471 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 12: I agree, And then let's just see we kind of 472 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 12: brushed over the fact that a local camera on an 473 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 12: exterior of a neighbor's building really costs the video. That's 474 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 12: critical because to your point, cars are changing constantly. People, 475 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 12: you have eyewitnesses to the scene that will be able 476 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 12: to say I think it was a black vehicle. I 477 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 12: think it was a jeep that I'm not sure, but 478 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 12: that video surveillance, even if it's just a tail light, 479 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 12: gives law enforcement so much information, including potentially the tag, 480 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 12: and that's what we had in this case, and that 481 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 12: was what was absolutely critical in identifying the suspect moving forward. 482 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: Take a listen to our cut eleven. Our friends at CBS. 483 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 7: Although she wasn't from Austin, those right here in Central 484 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 7: Texas have been shocked at her death. 485 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 3: I think it's a bad tragedy. 486 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 7: Michael Harris lives just across the street from where Anna 487 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 7: Maria Wilson lost her life. Those who knew her best 488 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 7: called her mob According to an AFFI, David, Wilson was 489 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 7: staying with a friend while preparing for a bicycling race. 490 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 7: She was lasting a live on surveillance video being dropped 491 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 7: off at the home by a local professional cyclist, Colin Strickland, 492 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 7: who never went inside. 493 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: It's really required over here. We never had this. 494 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 7: Happen before, APD says during the investigation, sir veillance video 495 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 7: showed a black, deep grand Cherokee. He drove past the 496 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 7: house just one minute after Wilson went inside. 497 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: Okay, right there, we're getting somebody else ruled out. We 498 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: know that she had gone. 499 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: Swimming that day, earlier in the day with somebody named 500 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: Colin Strickland. But did I hear this correctly, Tony Ploheitski 501 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: that the surveillance video shows Strickland. 502 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: Bringing her home, never going in and leaving. Correct. 503 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 5: That is exactly right. 504 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: And Strickland was not driving a black suv. 505 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 8: He was not. 506 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 5: He was, as a matter of fact, on his motorcycle. 507 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well that clears that up. So who is 508 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: in the black suv? Take a listen to our cut 509 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: nine our friends at Fox seven. 510 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 14: Armstrong's car was seen on surveillance video at Wilson's friend's home. 511 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 14: Wilson's friend later came home to find Wilson with multiple 512 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 14: gunshot wounds. We went to the home where the crime 513 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 14: happened and the address listed for Armstrong and Strickland. No response. 514 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 14: We tried calling Strickland as well. 515 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: Sorry, the person. 516 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 13: We're trying to reach has a BlueMail box but has 517 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 13: not been set up yet. 518 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 14: All this leaving the cycling community in mourning. 519 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 6: It's so incredibly painful for such a tight knit community 520 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 6: and people. 521 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: You've raced with, celebrated with, no like fridden so many. 522 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 6: Miles with to be faced with this. 523 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: Horrific tragedy, and really my reaction is just pain and heartbreaking. 524 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so we've rolled out Colin Strickland, who dropped off 525 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: on a motorcycle? 526 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: Who Tony Plahetski is Armstrong. 527 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 5: Armstrong is Colin Strickland's girlfriend of three years and they 528 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 5: lived together here in Austin and actually operate a business 529 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 5: together in the Austin area. 530 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: Caitlin Marie Armstrong, age thirty four, is the living girlfriend 531 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: of Colin Strickland. Colin Strickland is who Mariah went swimming with. 532 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 5: Exactly right. Mariah and Colin Strickland had gone to a 533 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 5: well known pool community pool in Austin called De Betty 534 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 5: and went swimming together and then picked up a couple 535 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 5: of burgers at a nearby popular spot and then as 536 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 5: we know, he dropped her off back at the apartment 537 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 5: on his motorcycles. 538 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm trying to take in everything that you just said. 539 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: Take a listen to our cut ten Angela Shan Fox seven. 540 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 14: The search is on for Kaitlin Armstrong. Officials are asking 541 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 14: for the public's help and finding her. According to the 542 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 14: core of paperwork, an anonymous caller had called police saying 543 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 14: Armstrong said she wanted to kill Wilson after finding out 544 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 14: she was involved with her boyfriend. Now the affidavit says 545 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 14: the night of the murder, Wilson went for a swim 546 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 14: with Colin Strickland, another cyclist. After that he dropped her 547 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 14: off at her friend's house. Wilson was visiting from California 548 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 14: and was in Austin ahead of a race in Hiko. 549 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 14: The paperwork he says Strickland and Kaitlyn Armstrong were in 550 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 14: a relationship before briefly ending it for a couple of 551 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 14: weeks last year. At that time, he was involved with Wilson. 552 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace and let's not forget this 553 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: is evidence of guilt flight. Armstrong fled to Costa Rica 554 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: using her sister's passport, a dye, her hair, had plastic surgery, 555 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: a nose job, and a brow lift before she was 556 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: found at a youth hostel teaching yoga surfing. Now, the 557 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: lawsuit filed by the family was filed on the heels 558 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: of a TV movie called Yoga Teacher Killer, The Caitlyn 559 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: Armstrong Story at Aird on Lifetime, and the family lost 560 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: their lawsuit against Armstrong out of fear that she would 561 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: be cashing in on her notoriety. The family stated that 562 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: the lawsuit was about getting a judgment, so if she 563 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: gets a movie deal, a book deal, a TV deal, 564 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: money's flowing into her account. The judgment would keep her 565 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: from basically getting blood money. After the murder of their daughter, 566 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: Mariah Listening, lawsuit claims Caitlin Armstrong already transferred her steak 567 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: in three properties to her family to try to avoid 568 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: paying for her crime. Two properties in Austin were reportedly 569 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: transferred to her mother or sister before they were sold, 570 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 2: while her steak in a third that she co owned 571 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: with the boyfriend was transferred to her sister, Christine Armstrong, 572 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: before being gifted back to Colin Strickland. Oh what a 573 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: tangled web we weave when first we practiced too to see? 574 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: What more do we know? 575 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: I understand Mariah was not in a love relationship a 576 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 2: sex relationship with Colin Strickland. 577 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: Explain this love triangle. 578 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 5: So Mariah and Colin Strickland did have a relationship months 579 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 5: ago while he was apparently broken up with Kristen Armstrong. 580 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 5: That is what he tells the police. Colin reports that 581 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 5: he and Armstrong were broken up and that he did 582 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 5: have a brief relationship with Mariah Wilson. However, since that time, 583 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 5: according to him and what he told police, is that 584 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 5: they had been friends. 585 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: Can you say relationship? 586 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: Are you talking about a love relationship a sex relationship? 587 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 5: I mean it was made, from my understanding, a romantic relationship. 588 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 5: I mean that is the way that it has been described. 589 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: Okay, so let me understand this. 590 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: When Colin Strickland was broken up with Kaitlin Armstrong, he 591 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: had a love relationship with Mariah Wilson, the cycling star, right, 592 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: that's right, and then they called it off and he 593 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: got back with Kaitlin Armstrong. 594 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,479 Speaker 1: Is that right? 595 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 5: That is correct? 596 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: Okay, go from there. 597 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 5: And so over time, over the past several months, Mariah 598 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 5: and Strickland did maintain contact and apparently their relationship transitioned 599 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 5: more into platonic, more into friendship. But at the same time, 600 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 5: Kaitlyn Armstrong discovered this relationship and was able to learn 601 00:35:54,440 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 5: more vote from Colin Strickland himself and also apparently looking 602 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 5: at a cell phone, learned more about his ongoing friendship 603 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 5: with Mariah Wilson and did not like it. And so 604 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 5: that is what he told police as part of a 605 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 5: very lengthy interview. 606 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, even though they were platonic, she still didn't 607 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: like it. 608 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 5: That's exactly that exact is the understanding. 609 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my goodness, you know the first thing I 610 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: would do, run ya man, carry us joining us from 611 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: crime stoppers Houston. 612 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: I would get all of Caitlin. 613 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: Armstrong aged thirty four cell phone records and if she's 614 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 2: got a landline. 615 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: And I would find out how. 616 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: Many times she had been checking her boyfriend's messages. And 617 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: cell phone messages. I would want to find out how 618 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 2: she hacked into his email everything I could prove digitally 619 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 2: to see how long she had been doing a slow 620 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 2: burn over her boyfriend, Colin Strickland's relationship now platonic with 621 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: Mariah the cyclist Star. 622 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 12: Well, it looks like that's what they've been doing, and 623 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 12: they've uncovered that Colin and Mariah had been exchanging text 624 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 12: and phone calls, although he changed Mariah's name on his 625 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 12: phone to not infuriate his girlfriend, but she discovered it 626 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 12: and she started calling Mariah incessantly. Mariah blocked the number, 627 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 12: started following her on Instagram and following her on what 628 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 12: we understand to be Strava, a fitness app, to determine 629 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 12: her whereabouts so we can see Caitlin's actions. That's going, Oh. 630 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,959 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, Waite White, White, what did you say about 631 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 2: an app? 632 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 12: It's called Strava or Strava, and it basically allows a 633 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 12: cyclist to check in and show his or her followers, 634 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 12: you know, the point of departure for a bike ride 635 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 12: and then the point of return. And apparently you know, 636 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 12: Wilson had had pinged her location to the home of 637 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 12: Caitlin Cash as a start of the bike ride and 638 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 12: as a point of where she returned. And that's where 639 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 12: we believe our son learned. 640 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 5: Of Wilson's whereabouts. 641 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 2: So she would like chart her her bike courses online 642 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 2: so her followers can know where she was riding. 643 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 12: And it's very common, you know, given technology today, a 644 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 12: lot of us live our daily lives sharing our exact 645 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 12: whereabouts in real time with this community and network of 646 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 12: people who follow us. That's a big thing that I 647 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 12: talk about in terms of how dangerous that that really 648 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 12: is and really can be. 649 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 5: So dangerous, absolutely, and that is one of the things 650 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 5: that so many people have commented upon. I mean, when 651 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 5: you look at Armstrong, it is her public image and 652 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 5: even her image among people who knew her fans and 653 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 5: start contrast to what she is now accused of doing. 654 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 5: She is described as successful, accomplished in her own right 655 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 5: in the world of business. She was a yoga instructor 656 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 5: for several years in Bali, and so. 657 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: People you mean Caitlyn Armstrong, and so people are so 658 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: she was a yogi. 659 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 5: She was, and Bali no less, and so people are 660 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 5: trying to reconcile that image of her based on what 661 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 5: police are saying she did. 662 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the video and there's no doubt about it. 663 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: You see Armstrong's black suv going back and forth. It's 664 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: a jeep Cherokee driving around outside the home. 665 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: She's just circling it like a vulture. 666 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 2: The cars again spotted that night after the I guess 667 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:02,280 Speaker 2: the love object. Collin Strickland drops off the victim twenty 668 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 2: five year old, and Wilson and his yogi girlfriend just 669 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 2: couldn't stand it. Yoga teacher Caitlin Armstrong could not stand it. 670 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 2: Doctor Sherry Schwartz helped me a love triangle. I mean, 671 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 2: if you got a guy that's cheating on you, who 672 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 2: wants him anyway, I would send him straight to our 673 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 2: house cod cash on delivery and don't send him back 674 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: no returns. 675 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 13: Absolutely, I agree one hundred percent, Nancy. But clearly it 676 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 13: seems that Caitlyn suffers from this obsessive, pathological, toxic jealousy 677 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 13: that led to violence. 678 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 2: Again, jo Scott Morgan, how are they processing the scene? 679 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: How are we going to prove that it is in 680 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: fact the yoga loving girlfriend Caitlyn Armstrong. 681 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 10: Well, I'm glad you asked that question, because Austin the 682 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 10: Austin PD actually served a warrant. Let's go back to 683 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 10: where she was domsold with Strickland and this is what 684 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 10: the found out. They actually recovered two pistols at that scene, 685 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 10: one in which was a six hour nine millimeter. Guess 686 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 10: who had access to it? Only Armstrong, that's it. And 687 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 10: guess what else they did. They took this weapon and 688 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 10: they test fired it. And when they test fired it, 689 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 10: it came back. There is a high probability that those 690 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 10: ejected shells that they found at the scene match this 691 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 10: particular weapon. What kind of strikes me is baffling to 692 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 10: me is that they actually this individual left this weapon 693 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 10: where it could be recovered. I don't know what that 694 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 10: actually says about this individual, but it tells me she 695 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 10: didn't make any effort to try to take it and 696 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 10: throw it in a river. 697 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 2: Tells me she was highly emotional at the time and 698 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 2: not thinking correctly. 699 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: That is not insanity under the law. 700 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 2: The stalking, the leaving, the hiding out, the going on 701 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 2: the run shows she knew what she did was wrong 702 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: and for what. 703 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: And I can tell you another thing. 704 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 2: Asked if you're a boyfriend or a husband, is hiding 705 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 2: somebody's name and their cell phone out. 706 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: There's a reason he's hiding it. 707 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,479 Speaker 2: There is a reason I've checked my husband's cell phone 708 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 2: so many times. 709 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: My eyes bled. It was so boring I quit. 710 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 2: Also, he lied, didn't he lie? Tony Platts give out 711 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 2: where he was going that day? He's going to a 712 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 2: big municipal pool. Anybody can see them the deep Eddy, 713 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 2: It's not like a watering hole. It's a big municipal pool. 714 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 2: Anybody could see him there. Why did he have to 715 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,720 Speaker 2: lie about it, Tony? 716 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: Or did he? 717 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 5: Well? He lied? According to his text messages to Armstrong, 718 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 5: he lied to her about where he was. He described 719 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 5: his battery dying, that he had delivered flowers to someone 720 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 5: and then his old battery died. 721 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 2: I know Mariah's family is suing Caitlin Armstrong, but I 722 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: don't care how many millions of dollars they may ever get. 723 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 2: Didn't give it all away to have Mo back with them. 724 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: We wait as just as unfals. Goodbye friend,