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Speaker 4: Want to welcome you to Not My Best Moment, a

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Speaker 4: podcast where I talked to my friends artists, athletes, and

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Speaker 4: entertainers about their failures and how it helped them get

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Speaker 4: where they are today. If you don't know, my book

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Speaker 4: Successful Failure is out now New York Times bestseller. You

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Speaker 4: I don't think we can do Target yet black people.

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Speaker 4: be seen Today. We have someone I have admired for

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Speaker 4: a very long time from my hometown of Chicago. He

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Speaker 4: is a stand up comedian, actor, rapper, writer, producer. You

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Speaker 4: know him from everything from Snowfall twenty one, Jump Street

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Speaker 4: to Entourage and barbershop. You know, it's comedy specials like

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Speaker 4: Netflix's de Ray Davis How To Act Black and I

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Speaker 4: Got Six Senses and d Ray Davis Power Play, amongst others.

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Speaker 4: His IMBB goes back to two thousand and two, but

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Speaker 4: he's been in the game nearly thirty years. In twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five, Deray produced Just Niche Self Served, which featured

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Speaker 4: fellow Chicagoland actor Just Niche. He also dropped his album

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Speaker 4: Roach Sex in early March. You can catch him touring

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Speaker 4: Right now, ladies, gentlemen, d Ray Davis.

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Speaker 2: Thank you man. That was a wonderful intro. I don't

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Speaker 2: think I've ever had one like that.

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Speaker 4: You deserve it all man, you were living legend. Congrats

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Speaker 4: on your book.

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Speaker 1: Thank you brother, Thank you very I think.

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Speaker 3: When people hear a book, I don't think they think

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Speaker 3: because I've been approaching many times. But just the efforts

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Speaker 3: And that's to get those words on that page and

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Speaker 2: It's not it's people. I'm gonna write a book.

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Speaker 3: I hear my mother been saging gonna write books since

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Speaker 3: I was fine, But to sit down, man, it just

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Speaker 3: takes so much patience and so much so congrats on that.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: It is It is a labor of love, and it

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Speaker 4: if you have a new joke you want to try out,

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Speaker 4: you can get up and go on try that out tonight.

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Speaker 4: If you feel like you're so inclined with that book,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna be writing for a year at least closer

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Speaker 2: Shirts you should T shirt should be everywhere. It's just like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I want to start by shouting you out. Everybody might

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Speaker 4: are actually the voice of what we thought was Bernie

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Speaker 4: Mack in Kanye West's first two albums. I feel like

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Speaker 3: Well, the Gay Thing was a new GLC for a

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Speaker 2: We get to student that same day that we filmed that.

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Speaker 2: I was like, that's not gonna be my platform.

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Speaker 3: And that was the first time I had ever done it,

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Speaker 4: Hold On, hold on, d Ray, hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 4: You did that on the spur of the moment. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 4: I ain't gonna hold you, d Ray. I grew up

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Speaker 2: It was said doing Bernie Mack. It was that bad.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a good impression the first time. It wasn't.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, man, so that's how it happened. That that

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Speaker 1: And then we end up doing it gram Wow, that's amazing.

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Speaker 4: You you've done some amazing things that we're gonna get

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Speaker 4: Quiet as kept. I've said this a long time. Excuse me.

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Speaker 4: Chicago is home to a lot of the world's greatest comedians,

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Speaker 2: It was. But and I was always going to sales

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Speaker 3: I see the stand up and it's Shah. I don't

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Speaker 2: Well, uncles like, he's like, no, you can't, you can't.

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Speaker 3: I went on stage. I was on stage thirteen minutes,

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Speaker 3: Something like that, something like yeah, you wish it was

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Speaker 3: I changed my voicemail, so Damon called me to tell

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Speaker 2: Now you're welcome.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna do that and

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Speaker 3: So four months later I started my own riddles. I

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Speaker 4: For the first time, you perform it for the first time,

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Speaker 1: So you have you still have Mondays?

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Speaker 2: Now, allow me. Wow.

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Speaker 4: When I moved to LA it was like, now you

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Speaker 3: I keep doing it because I consistantly challenge myself because

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Speaker 3: So I felt like Monday rays like that's the ground

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Speaker 3: I love the job, I love the challenge. I love

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Speaker 3: When I fought ticket on that stage, I had people,

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Speaker 3: I was like, bro, I'm telling you now, because my

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Speaker 3: And with that hosting the Emprov for maybe five months,

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Speaker 2: So but so I loved. I just think the Improv

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Speaker 1: Just how many years has it been?

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Speaker 1: Because you when I I kid you not when I

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Speaker 3: You know when you're getting old, I'm feeling I said, nigga,

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Speaker 2: But when I first got there, the menus are written

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm trying to sell albums. God damn it, Ken,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that.

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Speaker 2: You're making me an R and B artist.

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Speaker 4: with this, so it couldn't have been your dream like

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00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 4: Lifelong was was because you you you made the transition

437
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 4: not only to acting, you made the transition to dramatic

438
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 4: acting like and a lot of comics are good dramatic actors.

439
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 4: So many Robin Williams.

440
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 3: One of my really good friends, Robin Williams, was he

441
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 3: put me in Old I did Old Dogs with him.

442
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 3: I did relacened To with him first, and then that's

443
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,439
Speaker 3: when I started the teachings of the what all did

444
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 3: Robin give me?

445
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 2: If I was just saying my dialogue off screen?

446
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 3: He gave me that, and he'd be here with it

447
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 3: when he's talking, and then it'll come back to you

448
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 3: for significance of reason, I could be here and.

449
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 2: Talking unit then.

450
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just and then Old Dogs is improv wise,

451
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 3: so yeah, him, Jamie Fox.

452
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: Who's yeah, Jamie, Jim Carrey, what about.

453
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 3: The people that drama just grabbed and kept? What about

454
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 3: the Tom Hanks of the world, who was about comedy?

455
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 3: And they said, hey, man, what about the you know,

456
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 3: Jim Carrey will yeah, Jim, Jim stayed comedic.

457
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 1: That's a good point.

458
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 2: They pulled like.

459
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Speaker 3: Some people, I can think, because when you're looking at

460
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 3: that improv wall, you're like, I didn't even know they

461
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 3: didn't stand up.

462
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:28,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and you were very believable like on Snowfall.

463
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 4: Had I not seen you, you know, be comedic, I

464
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 4: would have been like, this is a thespian who is dead?

465
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,479
Speaker 4: I mean you dead serious about the role. Was it

466
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 4: a hard transition to flip that light switch on to

467
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 4: Drew drama?

468
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 3: Well, I think I got a little taste of it

469
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 3: with twenty one Jump Street because I got to play

470
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 3: like a tough guy.

471
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 2: But still comedic.

472
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

473
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like it was a soft entrance to it,

474
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: like I'm saying, uh so. And then when John called

475
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: about Empire, he was trying to just take me out

476
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 3: of the to me like world four minute. He wanted

477
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 3: me to like completely empty out. So that's why you

478
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 3: made me a murdering that at first, you know, the

479
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: cookie cousin. So then when snow Walk came up, he

480
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 3: ran to my apartment with the script. He's like, yo, yeah,

481
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: I said apartment like my hearchman, my little apartment with

482
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 3: the script and he was like, yo, I'm doing this show.

483
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 2: I want you to be the lead'st Jerome. So we

484
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: shoot the pilot. I'm Jerome.

485
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: I got cast as Jerome, whoa really yeah, way you

486
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: got to tell this whole story. Yeah, So John had

487
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 3: been working one work for a long time. They were

488
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 3: developing the show. We talked about it, and the show

489
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: was initially about From what he told me was he

490
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: had a friend in Chicago named Jerome who was involved

491
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Speaker 3: us to whatever.

492
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: It gave me some backstoryline. I can remember all of it.

493
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: And then I got castles Jerome, and then we did

494
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: the whole thing like I like when Franklin. When damns

495
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: A auditioned, the auditioned with me. I was Jerome in

496
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Speaker 3: the room. Oh my god, who else was there? Kofe

497
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: from Queen Sugar was up for Franklin.

498
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: Malcolm A.

499
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: Mazing played Damson's best friend. He was up for the role.

500
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 3: But you know, end of the day, dance is a

501
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: strong try. And I said, the other guys weren't. But

502
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: what would fit? You know how Hollywood is, you never know.

503
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 3: Malcolm Kofe's doing Beyond Great Superstar. So they weren't wrong

504
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 3: in their ideas, right right, right, right? Great writer producer

505
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 3: b M F. He's they weren't wrong. They had to

506
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: get rid of him early. Actually that's why he had

507
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 3: too the first season. I think because he had to

508
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: do that other show. I don't know, uh, but those

509
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: are all great guys and then but people don't know

510
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 3: dancing and the actancy was like for he sent me

511
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 3: a hate to be a subject. But he has this

512
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: video of him doing Bad Boys, the scene where he

513
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 3: saw this where he's doing Martin and Will. I saw

514
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: this at ABFF. I was like, oh that he had

515
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: it for a long time.

516
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: So and other guys, plus he was he was around me.

517
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 3: I can't remember the timeline, but after he got it,

518
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 3: we kind of hung out as we would become and

519
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 3: I was Jerome. He was becoming Franklin so round like Hollywood,

520
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: being out like his first parties. Yeah, let's just being

521
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: in La on some vibe of being out and but

522
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: he was always committed. So I'm like, well this bro,

523
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: he's dead on Yeah. So we shot the pilot.

524
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Speaker 4: I was Jerome, Lauren London was Louis Oh my god.

525
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 4: Dampnson's mom was Jill Scott. Dampson's dad was Isaiah Washington.

526
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Speaker 1: Oh my god. This is a totally different show.

527
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: And Power owned the club. It wasn't the lady that

528
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Speaker 2: that brilliant? Yeah? Power.

529
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Speaker 3: I think he was initially Louise Pimp from the beginning

530
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Speaker 3: of the In that first one when and John directed

531
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 3: that one too.

532
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Speaker 4: He directed that pilot clift and power own the club,

533
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Speaker 4: Clift and.

534
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Speaker 2: Power on the club.

535
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 3: I forgot what else happening, but I just know that

536
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: I definitely wasn't ready. I'm glad it didn't row because

537
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: I was not ready.

538
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: I was not.

539
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 3: I can't believe am and Joseph is the guy who

540
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 3: played He's been around for a while. Yeah, So so

541
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 3: what it was was blessing this guy because I was

542
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: not prepared for that role.

543
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: I probably would have thrown off the whole show. I

544
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: probably would.

545
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: Who knows, who knows, who knows? Different direction, different whatever.

546
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 3: I wish I could still see that probably. I think

547
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 3: John emailed it to me a long time ago, but

548
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: I know when I watched it even I had a

549
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: couple of moments that was strong.

550
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: But those guys are destining when you're talking. That's what

551
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: John did.

552
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 3: Is he planning me with these actors who are brilliant

553
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: and silenced me so I could learn listen.

554
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: That's why my role was me speaking. I'd be like, dang,

555
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna talk, and I started thinking about it.

556
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 3: I want to talk because these motherfuckers dancers looking dancing

557
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: is looking at five different people at the same fucking

558
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 3: tim and going and then about to play.

559
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: Aimen has a curl on it in New.

560
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: York Man.

561
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 4: And I am is not as big as you and

562
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 4: that show. He he comes across like he's like six

563
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Speaker 4: five six six.

564
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: A man and push us between the scene. That's another

565
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: way to committed. They studying, I'm in my I'm in

566
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 3: my trailer being, you know, relaxing. I see, I ain't

567
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: got much to say anyway, so I think.

568
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: But it was the end of the day.

569
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 3: It was a great experience because even during the passion

570
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: of John was heavy, of course, but we kept each other.

571
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: We showed that we could work through COVID.

572
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

573
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the producer Andrown is a beast with like listening

574
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: to a lot of producers don't listen to you at all.

575
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's like, who's emotional, what's going on? What hey?

576
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do And he tried, but I'm trying

577
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: to do this. But I was a love of comedy

578
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: man too, and I couldn't get out of some dates.

579
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: I couldn't get out of it. They had to do rerits.

580
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: That happened to me on Entourage too. I was locked

581
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: in the entourage. I remember seeing Mark Wahlberg and he's

582
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: going in the club and I turn him go Mark

583
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 3: Wahlberg and I'm like, I'm an actor, man.

584
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: I was like, I was good to meet you. I

585
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: love to study. He's like, yeah, he's man.

586
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: I had to us this movie barbershop and he said

587
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: see you on set, and I was like, yeah, all right, right,

588
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: so I remember I was. I went to audition. Prian

589
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: Grage shout out to Chris Spencer's wife too. She did,

590
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 3: I don't know her name, but it's good people's name

591
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: wives and people. Missus Spencer all, you don't need to

592
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: remember your friend's name, right right, Pences all the queen.

593
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: Miss Spencer's all I need to remember. But she cast me,

594
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: and then I remember I was. I didn't know I

595
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 3: was casting. The Mark Warbert calls me, I'm doing another film.

596
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: Think I'm doing the Fog at the time, and I think, no,

597
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: I'm doing something else.

598
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: And he calls, he said, hey, what's up Gray, And

599
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, who's smart?

600
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 4: War work?

601
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: What? Mark like, show me to hang up? Call again?

602
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: Cause back, Yeah, I'm gonna He cast me, and then

603
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: I had to do the comedy days.

604
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: That I had booked because you know, man, yeah, the

605
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: bills and other people and I couldn't stay on there.

606
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: So that's the same thing that happened with snow For.

607
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: I got deep into my touring.

608
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: I think I was getting prepared to shoot another special,

609
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: although I did what I do all the time. I

610
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: make an hour. I love the hour, and then I

611
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: get bored of the hour, and now I don't want

612
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: to do the hour. So most of my specials have

613
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: been a push, like djus do it. It's gonna be

614
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: staring people there, and then yeah, every just like Shack

615
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: All Stars, everybody loved that last joke, and I ruined

616
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 3: that joke to this day when people play it, I'm.

617
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: Just like, you're like, it was so funny.

618
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, you didn't need a kid say you didn't

619
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 3: need there was an accordion right there.

620
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: There's an accordion sample.

621
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, taking a quick commercial break. We'll be right back.

622
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Speaker 4: So I want to go back to you being recast.

623
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 4: I guess I have two questions, One how did it happen?

624
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: And two did you think it was a blessing at

625
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: the time? I know you think of it as a blessing.

626
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. You don't never think there's a blessing.

627
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: At the time, I thought when they said they were

628
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: doing it because they asked me to come reread, which

629
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: I definitely had.

630
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: I definitely had some emotion about that. That's one thing

631
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: about it, man, when you don't know the bit.

632
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: Like everything I'm good at, like as far as comedy

633
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: and stand up, I know the ins and outs, and

634
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: I consider myself a connoisseur, although I religiously deliberate information

635
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: sort of like the gangst the rappers to the streets

636
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: that we wonder why people are clowning and we're giving

637
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: them things the clown about. For the culture of comedy,

638
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: I dumbed down my material or how I'm feeling on

639
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: my delivery or act a little bit drunker than I am.

640
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: But I know the ins and outs of it, and

641
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: I think me not knowing the ins and outs of

642
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: acting and what goes along with how long people been

643
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: waiting on roles, the way we waited our turn much work.

644
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

645
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: It was a sense of entitlement by working with John

646
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: and me thinking already had it. Then there was the

647
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: edge of there was they had some of my lines

648
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: I freestyled in the pilot, were in this new script,

649
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: and I had an issue, oh reading my own lines,

650
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: and I made that issue known at the recasting because

651
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: I remember I was gonna not go in. I said,

652
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: I'm not going in, and John's like, we don't go in?

653
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: He said, you bitching? Are you acting? This is exactly

654
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: words to me. So I was like, fucking, I'm gonna

655
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: go in. His mind's meant for me. I'll go win

656
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: it again. And I saw those lines and I tried

657
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: to do them in the room, and then someone mentioned

658
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: I did a good job on the pilot, and I

659
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: had a.

660
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: I had a dry rebuttal of I know that's why

661
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: my lines are in here.

662
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: I think that debited for the I mean I already

663
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: was already meant not meant for me anyway, right, But.

664
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: I'm glad I had a good feeling walking out. John

665
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: called me about ten times eleven. What did you say?

666
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it came back though, because the

667
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: end of the day, like John pushed for me, and

668
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: although I have a very unorthodox way of maneuvering through

669
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: Los Angeles and Hollywood, have always back to the wall,

670
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: didn't trust much John understood my reasons why we were

671
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 3: he maybe speak about, you know, what was going on

672
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: with my mom and how I had felt like I

673
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: had elevated my career at the same time distancing myself

674
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: from who we were right as a black family was

675
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: supposed to be doing for mom people. I was jealous

676
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: people in their mom's career and mom's lives that they

677
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: got along with their mom. And so I ain't gonna

678
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: talk to no nigga who grow with his mama. Who

679
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: they I mean, I grew ango who get along me

680
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: my mom? So you didn't fit mine. If that didn't

681
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: feel good comedically, I wasn't gonna rock with you. So

682
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: people thought I was arrogant. It just didn't want to

683
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: have a conversation about something because one, I don't think

684
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: we gonna have the same unders fan of what I'm

685
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: feeling right now, nor did I even know what I

686
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: was feeling.

687
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: So moments like that.

688
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: But I was not as disappointed, I think in that

689
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 3: as i've been in like I think I'm more like

690
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: they had a conversation the other day to comics and.

691
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: They've been floating around if you're doing this thing, which

692
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: I really hate.

693
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: I've always hated comedic contest, although I've done well on them,

694
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: because you can't judge my fucking funny.

695
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: My funny. And I don't mean just because I'm funny.

696
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: I mean because I'm laughing. I'm laughing.

697
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they said about my boys, we had the

698
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: best laughing. You don't know my inside joke. I won,

699
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: right now, get that part of it. If you don't laugh,

700
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: I want you motherfuckers because you didn't get my joke.

701
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: I'm not alien to myself. I've made myself superior this moment,

702
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: right right, This is an star go joke and you

703
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: all appealing back to now, So instead of making ourself

704
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: feel bad, right, but in comedy contests of my husband,

705
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: like man, I just don't like to compete, and there's

706
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: been this thing going around about who's better than who

707
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: and who's good and you don't want to get somebody

708
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: like me started in that era because I don't live

709
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: in the podcast world as far as negativity, and not

710
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: even in competition.

711
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: I do if competition was amongst gentlemen, we know how

712
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: to talk to each other and.

713
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: We you know, uh be only because I know how

714
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: good I am outside of those lines too, and I

715
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: would it would be discouraging for everything we were trying

716
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: to accomplish. Right with the end of the end of

717
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: the day, We're gonna not be friends because we're grossing

718
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: each other and that happens here.

719
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, But I just feel like being give me

720
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: something that's gonna go vind the shame room.

721
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: No, I feel that's what I'm trying to get out

722
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 4: of that. This ain't that type of podcast anyway, we don't,

723
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 4: I know, but they but they regardless though they look

724
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: for it.

725
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: And it's not that I'm not I'm not away for

726
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: I just stay out of that world. So I'm just

727
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: saying you can't, and that was going around. So I

728
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: just think as of late, I saw this. I saw

729
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: this podcast in the young Spanish comic Kevin. I think

730
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: his name is Kevin as well.

731
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: keV.

732
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kevin was with Ryan Davis and it was like,

733
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: give me a top three and he says his first thing,

734
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: d Ray Davis because this is true emotion. And I

735
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: think I see people feel to their emotions due to

736
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: who they think I'm as a person, right, and I

737
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: don't mind that I know the off court on court,

738
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: but when I'm on court, regardless of I fight for

739
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: my team, and my team are comedians right always every

740
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: time I fought to get us the more, the most pay.

741
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: I've been banned from Improse for fighting over the overagin

742
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: the charges for credit cards and while it's not matching

743
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: the cash wow, and I fought to get back in

744
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 3: the very deals that comedians do now with the scaling

745
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: able to move around me. These are things I beat

746
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: up and my agents. I go and tell them when

747
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: people say, hey, let them know why I got that

748
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: deal started. You tell people they're when one's adding chows

749
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: and want to let us get those. I was like,

750
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: I won't come here no more. I got to do Yeah,

751
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 3: So so that that beast, that that person he fights

752
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: for us. Like comedically, it's always uh we always we.

753
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: We we we go back and forth. At the end

754
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: of the day.

755
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: Man, I don't think there's nobody I can't close after.

756
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: But I have to believe that because yeah, one man.

757
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: Sport and I had. Man, let me tell you, I

758
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 2: was on top of the world.

759
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: Bro.

760
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: I forgot when it was I was rocking everywhere.

761
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: When I think I was getting stand ovations to the

762
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: point where I was like, and I'm not saying I

763
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: still can't. I'm just living in my time now where

764
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: it's like get them standing ovation that they love me

765
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: like I rather like play and they actually.

766
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: I got something. And then y'all who just that I

767
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: want to just want a natural organic seen again extanton ovation.

768
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: Not too long ago, it was our DC uncle I

769
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 3: who just sat still for a minute and something had

770
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 3: happened earlier with somebody I kicked out of something that

771
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 3: they had messed up with the show and he just

772
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: sat there and they start slowly cheer and cheer. I

773
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 3: hadn't seen I don't think I've ever seen it truth,

774
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 3: And I was like that that is what comedians, That

775
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: is what you chase see of me. No, that's something

776
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: that you're in that moment you want to you want

777
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: to you like, you want to experience that because that

778
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: that alone, so saying that is when they're they're complimenting me.

779
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: All I can think was that, mm hmm. That's one

780
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 3: of the things I can place somewhere because when you're

781
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: judging me as a comic, that's saying you didn't speak

782
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: to me or this, And I'm talking to a thousand

783
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 3: comments in my mind, Kevin, I need to get a

784
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: lot of calls and in requests to thank God pursuing

785
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: people that helped me book the comments because I want

786
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: you all to go up It's not do good, is

787
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 3: to do bad.

788
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: So you can get the fuck out the way.

789
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: So another time, even I don't not grant you a

790
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: time on stage because I don't think no, no, You

791
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: go up there and you ruined three minutes, and then

792
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: you make a decison because the only job you can't

793
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 3: get fired from. So now when you come back, not

794
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: only do you got to say you're better than last

795
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 3: time down the comedic totem pole. So I give every

796
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 3: comic a chance. Get up there, show me, make me

797
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: fucking work tonight openers who are weaker than me, and

798
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: the beginning, I want person to uproard the room.

799
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: I go, no, get up there and show me why

800
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: I showed me why I believe I'm d ray.

801
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

802
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: There was a moment when I'm on top of the

803
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: world and we're in Miami and Chris Stupher's hosting, and

804
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: we're in a big, big, big arena and I'm I'm

805
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: telling I'm supposed to go last because I'm on fire

806
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: for whatever. I don't know what's going on. This time,

807
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: during this time, but I'm even if I'm not going

808
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 3: to last, I believe d Ray Ego is on yeah

809
00:37:53,200 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: pull laugh, ro out good and then he says to me, uh,

810
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: who was it he said? Jay le Mont should close.

811
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 3: Pooky comes me and says this, and I I'm I'm offended,

812
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: but I can't. No, I'm closing.

813
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: That's what it is. I'm last. Those people are you.

814
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 2: I'm about to rip this mo, I'm.

815
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: De I worked with Jay many times. I've seen jas.

816
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: I still felt no. I was like, I'm still thro

817
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: the alley. I'm catching the bitch over the run, right.

818
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 3: Jayle Mont goes out there. I don't remember what was

819
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: happening except it was outside too so motherfucker's on the

820
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: boat outside going across the goddamn ocean. Planes, Indigenous people

821
00:38:51,760 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 3: coming up, shaking hands and bro.

822
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: Bro.

823
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: When I tell you, I went out there and I

824
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 3: must have done every curse word. I did every and

825
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: it just was I was.

826
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 2: I can't.

827
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: I've never bombed or been boled. But if I were

828
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: to say there was an emotion where I knew Ego

829
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: when I was listening to coaches from that moment, I

830
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: don't think I made the mistake again. I think anybody

831
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: told me something's like, hey, don't go in, they gonna

832
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: bet your ass. That bitch with eight black guys. I

833
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: wanted to fight, but I walked out that bitch toothless,

834
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: one black nigga nigga two brains out.

835
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: And Jaylem minds there have money stopped there.

836
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: You mother had done no wrong. He had done no wrong,

837
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 3: but did what he was supposed to do because he

838
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: had fun. Differ really fun.

839
00:39:55,160 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: You get your somebody, I rebuild pranktice time. So I'll

840
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: say that.

841
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 3: But but confidence is key with comedy, and I don't.

842
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: I just never want to be. I need people to know.

843
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: That's the probably the most confident I am in anything.

844
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: It's just comedy. It's it's mostly comedy. Most of the

845
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: acting stuff. I like to say, Like I've been in

846
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: rooms and I was saying imber saying to a cast

847
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: director because I did rock really rock the road, and

848
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: I was like, you let that other guy know I'm

849
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: coming from I'm talking about.

850
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 2: Tarents out.

851
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: And she just said.

852
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 3: That's right now, and I just sld that. But and

853
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: I would and guess what, I didn't get the roll,

854
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 3: by the way, made it even I've been humbled in room.

855
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: Remember I.

856
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: Remember auditioned for Tyler Perry. So I go in and

857
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 4: I forgot what road it was. I was reading and

858
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 4: it's three through in the room, and I studied the

859
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 4: lines best I could, and I barely started reading. I

860
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 4: got like maybe halfway through the scene, and he's like,

861
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 4: I already know what you can do. Man, I already

862
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 4: know you're good actor.

863
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: Thank you.

864
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: Oh dang.

865
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: And I wasn't on some stuff.

866
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: I go went, but I was like, I think I

867
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: think I held this space. I think I drove home

868
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: like this. I never had Oh my god, you know,

869
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 3: I know you're good actor.

870
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: It was it was like a.

871
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: But it was this, yeah exactly.

872
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 3: I was like, I like to make sure nobody saw

873
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: I fell in front of the people, right, So I say, man,

874
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 3: I I'm just standing. I had my moments. So the

875
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: confidence in comedy, I just don't want that to be

876
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: But I do wish there were times where I could

877
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 3: have honed the power a little better.

878
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and definite some people can. Some people thinks

879
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: them just bounce off of it and absorb it and

880
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 2: it sticks with them.

881
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: But through the years, though, as comicis have come back

882
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: and they once got better, or they on their own platform,

883
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: they come back and I just said something to me.

884
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: It's kind of like I remember that day. I'm like

885
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: a bro.

886
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 3: I'm telling I don't but I forget because I was

887
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: already shooting threes bro right of court. I wouldn't think

888
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 3: about nothing.

889
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: I passed me the ball. I was like, bro, I

890
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: gotta just shoot.

891
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so tell me, tell me about your your your moving.

892
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 4: I don't even know what to say into music or

893
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 4: back into music, but you're you're getting more involved in music.

894
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: How did that come about?

895
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, I've always been I've always loved music. I've

896
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: always done you. I always wrapped since I was like eleven,

897
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: so of course I was doing a more battle rap

898
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: back then. Yeah, I got more serious going to be

899
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: a teenager.

900
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: But comedy took off, and right when it did, It's

901
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: kind of when I was entering the Eric sermon in

902
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: the Banara and in the Death Squad days type things

903
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 3: and these I've always dropped like little songs and say

904
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna his mouth freestyle in my back house for

905
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: eight eight hours.

906
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw you on stage with a fan at

907
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: the Blue Note Spot Way yeah, he's good at everything.

908
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 4: He's good at everything, and he's a vampire. He that kids,

909
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 4: that kid you want to be cool in school? One

910
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: thousand percent in the day, literally one thousand percent. I'd

911
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: be like, bro, hey, I'll be chopping it up with him,

912
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: and then he'd be like, just go on Inteagram, right, bro,

913
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: just like on certain the other day you're like one thousand.

914
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah for sure.

915
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: Be like you would be talking and Randy be like,

916
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I used my jet to go to the

917
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: or he say something like I went to school dad

918
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: with some sharks and they was like they got this close, like.

919
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: You may get your sharks snack looking.

920
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: So are you talking about releasing music or albums or EP? Like?

921
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: How how I'm serious? What can we expect?

922
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: My album is out, the album roach Sex is out,

923
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: and it's I try not to because I like.

924
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: The name drop thing, not that everybody hanging his name

925
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 3: drop anywhere, because we also want to be doing song

926
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: with I like, let me like, if I say I

927
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: did this podcast, it is yeah, yeah, you know it's Kevo.

928
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You gotta because you're famous.

929
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: It's like.

930
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: Me and Kiva that's not But so about I want

931
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 3: a time. I want to say it was two thousand

932
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 3: and three years ago. I always send me and Kanye

933
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: would talk back and forth.

934
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: I send him Joe.

935
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: We would talk about different things, whether it be he's

936
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: getting ready for president, we had talked about you made

937
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 3: the TV show, talks about just been communicating for a while.

938
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: I would always send them songs like I do I

939
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: like these bars, but change that. This sounds cool, but

940
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: this sounds cool. One day I was in Oakland and

941
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: he sends me the track back to me before it

942
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: came out on Bultures. It's just the track and he's like,

943
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: right to it. And he's never said that to me.

944
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 3: You ever sent me a beat like that.

945
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: Hard pound, like the fuck.

946
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: That Wendy going write what I think is probably one

947
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: of my best verses and forever send it to him.

948
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: He's like, this is fire. Let's get the work. This

949
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: is a long story, cav I'm here. He said, let's

950
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: get the work. I couldn't get to Italy. Oh day

951
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: to go work. He came back. We worked on some

952
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: of it here Vultures here. I watched it. He was

953
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: I was listening in a room, just listening for me

954
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: to be you know.

955
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'm great comedy, but I also like

956
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: people to listen because end of the day is it

957
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: is our comedic culture in there. There's there's a blueprint everything. Yeah,

958
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: so I'm watching and I'm just listening. You can't learn

959
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 3: a lot, you know, and this as much as he knows,

960
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: you'll never know.

961
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: But enough.

962
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: While I was getting better, really really good, confident to

963
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: and working and working and working and then.

964
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 2: Still talking.

965
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: Then another song came up and I really went crazy

966
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: on it. That song that I'm not coming out. I

967
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: don't know if the song is gonna come out, but

968
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 3: if it does, I probably won't be on it because

969
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: the song, it's a song, has a lot of history

970
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: to it, but it was it brought it made me say,

971
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm about to put the same amount

972
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 3: of work and that putting this song into my songs.

973
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: Started working on road. Sex made a due date of

974
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: my birthday. I missed that back a couple of days

975
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: and it's amazing. Man, I'm gonna lie to you and

976
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: you listen to it and heard it. It's comedic to

977
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: me because all rappers are comedic in some form and

978
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: things they say they're doing but because of who they

979
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: are to change, not because they look. And you're not

980
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 3: gonna tell this, but lots always to be punching crazy games.

981
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: Uh, I know a lot of people. What's saying, bro, Yeah,

982
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: a lot of words. I was like, excuse me.

983
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 3: Him, some ship he said you're doing? Brother said is crazy,

984
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 3: like it's like this is two chains.

985
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: No, I didn't think about that. You You are absolutely right.

986
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 3: The line, eminem it's really center stage. You think if

987
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: you take him though, you take down the line. And

988
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 3: I put it if I said this line on stage

989
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 3: where it be funny right, Yeah.

990
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: To many the Erkle's team, that's why your winslow could

991
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: be a line. That could be a joke, you.

992
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: B team, That's why your win slowed. Yeah, that could

993
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: easily be a part of somebody saying, wow, you.

994
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: Go on the street like a parade. So I was

995
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: like and that and he did. That was a big thing.

996
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 3: He was really big online for line. I didn't know

997
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: what he meant at first, and then he told me

998
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 3: some stuff I didn't learn. It's how I left, not left.

999
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 3: I was home by myself, like like dang. Also, when

1000
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: I worked on this album, I was like, I get

1001
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: it now.

1002
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: I get it.

1003
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: I get I've always been a good rapper. I can

1004
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: always get in the pocket. I could always be good

1005
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 3: at writing, always good at you know. And I've worked

1006
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: for you here like exhibit I've worked like I've always

1007
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: been in and out of the it was. It's been

1008
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: a long time I've been doing it. So it's not

1009
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: like I was wrapping out of nowhere. And by the way,

1010
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: if I wrapped this good out of nowhere, bro, that's.

1011
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 2: What's great comedy was out of nowhere. That's just crazy. No, no, no,

1012
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: I worked on this.

1013
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: And first, I have learned how to talk, because even

1014
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: if you watch my old specials, have these words I'm

1015
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: saying to you right now. I couldn't have even gotten

1016
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: out because I was stuttering. I was talking fast. I

1017
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: thought that's how Chicago people needed to talk. Commanded it

1018
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: because you didn't have much time. So yeah, all this,

1019
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: I think collectively came together for the this new, uh,

1020
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: this new to everyone else with this this feel for it.

1021
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm working on the next album. I ready.

1022
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: I was just gonna ask you like you've done literally

1023
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 4: TV movie music and stand up over the last.

1024
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: Shoot my videos at your studio. You said what Yeah,

1025
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: so as your closed to night, we shooting a videos

1026
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: over there.

1027
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 2: That studio right Why you see the green scream with

1028
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: that mic bro Yeah? Man so but yeah, I like

1029
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: road Sex. I love it.

1030
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: Actually, I really love the album. We allo some videos

1031
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: to it, but I'm working on the next one already. Man,

1032
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: I love man something the Lady.

1033
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: I don't love that.

1034
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 4: So before we let you go to tell tell people

1035
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: what you're working on. I mean, obviously have a new album.

1036
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 4: Bro checks is also out. Where can they follow you?

1037
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: All that? Everything that you could say at the end

1038
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: the podcast at.

1039
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: D Ray Davis is my page is real. Nobody wants

1040
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 3: to be me, trust me. My credit to bad Fantastic,

1041
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 3: So I have no fake pages. I'm not the one

1042
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 3: they want to Uh gorod sections out. Get it on Apple, Spotify,

1043
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 3: Baby Mama Music on the way. That's my first time

1044
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: saying out loud because people be still and I have

1045
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: to wait till I bought the dot coms.

1046
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: Uh YouTube. I broke down and and did my own

1047
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: personal YouTube.

1048
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: There we go.

1049
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: Outside of the business, it's d d Ray Davis and

1050
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 2: I just might just might drop a special There we go.

1051
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: The game is changing.

1052
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: I've been holding Special, which is the name of my

1053
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: Special Dry David Special. Many many meanings to that. Uh,

1054
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 3: but I think I'm gonna drop it over there. I've

1055
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: had some grade offers, but we don't. You know what

1056
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1057
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: I would like to be. I like to own.

1058
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: I feel you. The game is changing.

1059
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: About it man and praying bro.

1060
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: I love it.

1061
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: I love it for everybody out there every day, every day.

1062
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: That's the balance. You see me posting the rap music.

1063
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: Just know our listen is Mary Man. Before that.

1064
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 3: You see, you might see a little you might see

1065
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: a little turk is going on behind. There's just no state.

1066
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: And to not a this woman. The album is well.

1067
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 4: I love it, Ladies and gentlemen, d Ray Davis follow him,

1068
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 4: catch up with him, Listen to the music, check out

1069
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 4: the stand up and we'll see you next week. Appreciate you, Dray,

1070
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 4: Thank you brother. This has been a Unanimous Media original.

1071
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 4: Not My Best Mama was produced by iHeart Podcasts and

1072
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 4: Unanimous Media. It was hosted by me Kevin Fredericks, Executive

1073
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 4: produced by Stephen Curry, Eric Payton and Charlotte Sumter Jette

1074
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 4: co executive producer Kelenna Maria Cutney.

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00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: The Executi.

1076
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 4: Producers of the iHeart podcast are Sean Titane and Jason English.

1077
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: This series was produced by Peter Calter and Jabbari Davis,

1078
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 4: co producer Kurt Redmond. Special thanks to Stephen Curry and

1079
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 4: Will Pearson Not My Best Mama. It is a production

1080
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 4: of Unanimous Media and iHeart Podcasts. For more podcasts from

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Speaker 4: iHeart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

1082
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: you get your podcasts.