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Speaker 1: Tweaks to the planet, Charlamagne to God here and as

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Speaker 1: we come closer to closing out this year, I just

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Speaker 1: black Et podcast network. There have been so many great

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Speaker 1: of those captivating moments in the special best of episode.

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Speaker 2: You Know, what are your thoughts on when people say

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Speaker 2: that like psychis and mediums and terror car readers and

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Speaker 2: things of that nature are scams, Because obviously, in a

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Speaker 2: recent couple of months, a lot of things that have

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Speaker 2: been prophesized by psychics and mediums or just people within

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Speaker 2: the spiritual realm have came to fruition, but people still

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Speaker 2: don't believe it. So why do you think people still

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Speaker 2: have their doubts?

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Speaker 3: It's uncomfortable for them to believe that there's something outside

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Speaker 3: of what NBCCBS, ABC, Fox News townsdam right, it's uncomfortable

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Speaker 3: for them, Like it's easier to say, oh, that's just

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Speaker 3: so I can't fault anybody for thinking that, right, But

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Speaker 3: I would also just say you don't. You don't lump

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Speaker 3: everybody in the same group, right, We're not all the same.

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Speaker 3: And also a lot of the things that the prophets have.

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Speaker 3: So there's some people that are going to say, well,

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Speaker 3: I'm not a psychic, I'm a prophet. I'm a prophet

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Speaker 3: test Okay, cool, cool, whatever, But that's I mean. But

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Speaker 3: they'll say, well, I'm just speaking from God. Well you

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Speaker 3: don't know that I'm not, just because I'm not using

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Speaker 3: the same language. You're going to see a lot more coming.

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Speaker 3: Something I just said recently at the time of this

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Speaker 3: January tenth, had one beginning to be exposed, and I

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Speaker 3: was like, oh, you're early, but watch that, we're going

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Speaker 3: to there's going to be five more.

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Speaker 3: I keep hearing the number five and five is the

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Speaker 5: M hmm. And these are people that we know absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm feeling that three of them will probably

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Speaker 3: be from the church. That one I'm not as certain of.

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Speaker 3: But I'm really feeling three of them and the ones

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Speaker 5: What do you see happening with the what church is

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Speaker 3: From the beginning, I don't. I think the time of

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Speaker 3: the megachurch is ending the physical megachurch. We've always said

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Speaker 3: for years and years and years, we've always prophesied that

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Speaker 3: the church would return to the early church, true church

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Speaker 3: days where people met house to house.

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Speaker 6: For all of these structures.

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Speaker 3: Right, So I do think that we're going to go

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Speaker 3: back to that. Will there no longer be local churches?

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Speaker 3: There probably will be.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to say that the megachurch is going to

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Speaker 3: they probably but it just it won't They're not going

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Speaker 3: It is you will reap. But this is an eight year.

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Speaker 3: It is both a karmic year and a harvest. Here

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Speaker 3: you are reaping what you have sown. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 3: hope you sowed good seed. Oh, I definitely sell them

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Speaker 4: I know you did.

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Speaker 2: Come on, listen and wait me and my God is

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Speaker 3: It is beautiful.

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Speaker 3: And you know if I don't you asked me before

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Speaker 3: I just choose to be open about how I'm referring

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Speaker 8: What have you at that time?

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Speaker 6: It is what it is.

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Speaker 5: Don't you get the message exactly.

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Speaker 8: I'm very neutral.

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Speaker 3: When you get to this, you get to a point

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Speaker 3: Why do I need to have a feeling and emotion

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Speaker 2: Right, So let's talk about spiritual warfare. How do you

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Speaker 2: interpret the concept of spiritual warfare that's mentioned in Ephiesians

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Speaker 2: Believe that we are currently experiencing spiritual warfare? Now, I

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Speaker 3: That is a very interesting So do I believe we're

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Speaker 3: in spiritual warfare? Yes, but I don't I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it's spiritual warfare as much as it is birthing

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Speaker 3: principalities and powers. Right, So there are principalities, there are powers.

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Speaker 3: Kind of hierarchical structure in the spiritual realm that contains

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Speaker 3: of boils down to are you going to only be

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Speaker 3: because there is still the spiritual entities or the shadow

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Speaker 10: you don't really know what you're into until you get

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Speaker 10: up to the thirtieth degree, right, you don't know. At

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Speaker 10: the earlier degrees, you don't know what you're doing. It

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Speaker 10: seems like just a regular club where you learn these

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Speaker 10: You don't know the religious implications and the spiritual implications

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Speaker 10: But do I think they acted alone? Do I think

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Speaker 8: That's that's how I put that. I don't think it

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Speaker 10: Innocent either, because you gotta look. They are choosing these

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Speaker 10: they are aiming these gods. They are saying, this is

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Speaker 10: was being established over these organizations are over one hundred years. Now,

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Speaker 8: What lasts for black people? That's all good? Last that long?

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Speaker 5: You don't think it's possible.

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Speaker 8: What do we have?

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Speaker 10: I'm conversing what you said today. What do we have

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Speaker 10: that is pure right? That is all good for us?

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Speaker 10: We ain't lost no children to it people, People have

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Speaker 10: lost their children pledge in these organizations. People have had

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Speaker 10: that happens to mostly everybody who pledges, right, even if

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Speaker 10: they even if they be paper, they gonna get subjected

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Speaker 10: I think we need to ask that question do we have?

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Speaker 8: What do we have? Who are we? What do we have?

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Speaker 10: Damn?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 8: That's why, that's why, that's why, Like girl, I don't know?

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Speaker 8: Is a trip anyway?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, race is a trip. I say that all the time.

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Speaker 2: There's black, there's white, and then there's green.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, race is a trip. And it's really it's really

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Speaker 10: But the way that it's being so ingrained in our world,

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Speaker 10: I think it's an issue ever, colorism, separate racism, and

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Speaker 8: You mean, like, do I see it happening for us

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Speaker 10: There's only what is godly and what is evil. Right,

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Speaker 8: But you see what I'm saying. So, yeah, people can grow,

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Speaker 10: But all the people that advance, they will tell you

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Speaker 10: have to reference the scripture right when Jesus is fast

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Speaker 10: It changes your body, it changes your mind, it changes

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Speaker 10: My youngest son doesn't even see his dad as his dad.

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Speaker 6: Because it's a revenge.

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Speaker 10: It's a revenge thing, and it's it's really deep, and

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Speaker 10: And it's behind him or somebody on his side making

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Speaker 7: Now, the true deliverance came when I went to a

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Speaker 7: Delivery service at my church one day and a man

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Speaker 7: Yeah with me, and I'm I'm married now to a

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Speaker 2: you think that people are born gay?

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Speaker 6: No?

446
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Speaker 5: Hmm.

447
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Speaker 7: The reason why is because God does not make mistakes

448
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 7: whenever born gay. It's just as something a spiritual force

449
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 7: as we call them, demon can be a sign to you,

450
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Speaker 7: just like angels. See the devil Satan is the worst

451
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Speaker 7: cockey can have died. We're all a guardian angel. So

452
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Speaker 7: he assigned spirits to us to try to taint and

453
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Speaker 7: conteentate and destroy a live And I believe that they

454
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Speaker 7: are assigned certain things to you for certain reasons. And

455
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Speaker 7: as I said that spirit told me I can assign

456
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Speaker 7: to you, I can't let you though. It's like if

457
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Speaker 7: he fails, he's going to get punished. And that's why

458
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Speaker 7: I don't believe no one's born gay.

459
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Speaker 2: M And I know you said that you always want

460
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Speaker 2: to be with a woman, So because I want to

461
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Speaker 2: get into your childhood, because feel like your childhood definitely

462
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Speaker 2: played an intricate part of your journey. So do you

463
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Speaker 2: think that, and I'm jumping ahead, but do you think

464
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Speaker 2: that people who are sexually abused by the same sex,

465
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Speaker 2: that that could be a reason why they can be gay?

466
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Speaker 7: Yes? I believe that That's what happened to me, right And

467
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Speaker 7: a lot of the people that I know in the

468
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Speaker 7: homosexual lifestyle, they were raped or molested or abused or

469
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Speaker 7: is many different factors. Some of them saw abuse from

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Speaker 7: a font and their family or in their household, where

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Speaker 7: for example, I have a family member who saw her

472
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Speaker 7: mom and dad constantly go at it, and she no

473
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Speaker 7: longer wanted to be with a woman. She's now full

474
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Speaker 7: fledged lesbian, like she's the man of the relationship, she said,

475
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Speaker 7: because she saw how her dad abused her mom. I

476
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Speaker 7: have some transsexual friends that transposed into becoming a woman

477
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Speaker 7: because they didn't have a mother figure in their or

478
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Speaker 7: they were so pushed away from females in their family

479
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Speaker 7: and their mom not being there, and then being a

480
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Speaker 7: doctor that brought into the family with such abuse that

481
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Speaker 7: they literally morphed into their mother becoming their mom. It's

482
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Speaker 7: so many different factors, is too. Why you know but

483
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Speaker 7: the majority of them has been molestation already and abuse.

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Speaker 2: Right now, was it difficult?

485
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Speaker 12: Damn?

486
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Speaker 5: So let me I had it.

487
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Speaker 2: So I read a lot, right, But my community know

488
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Speaker 2: that I've been trying to find a balance between like

489
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Speaker 2: my personal life and my professional life because you know

490
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Speaker 2: how it is like you, you do a lot of things.

491
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Speaker 2: I seen your businesses and stuff, so like, I'm pretty

492
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Speaker 2: sure you can understand like just having that balance can

493
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Speaker 2: be a little challenging at times.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I said that to say that I wasn't able

496
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Speaker 2: to read your books, but I did a lot of

497
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Speaker 2: research on you. But now as soon as we do

498
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Speaker 2: in our conversation, I got to order all.

499
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Speaker 5: Books now because I was not expecting this.

500
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Speaker 7: We may have to do a part too.

501
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Speaker 11: I think we are going to have to do a part.

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Speaker 7: Yes, open transparency. I can divulge whatever you want to hear,

503
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Speaker 7: because my story goes very very very very Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when you when you got delivered, how did your

505
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Speaker 2: community feel because you are a known figure in Florida.

506
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Speaker 7: Well, I'm going to tell you, because of my character

507
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Speaker 7: and my personality in the LGBT community, they were like this,

508
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Speaker 7: we still love you. I don't called dad or father

509
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Speaker 7: because of how I treated them, and Dad, we love me.

510
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Speaker 7: We don't care about that. We're happy for you. I

511
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Speaker 7: wanted happy for you because I would pray with them.

512
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Speaker 7: I would allow some of them to stay with me

513
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Speaker 7: different things, will you know, different scenarios and situations. Why

514
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Speaker 7: rescue them from jail, prison, been there when they were sick, homeless,

515
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 7: going through the motions. So it's how you treat people, right,

516
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Speaker 7: Because if I was a nasty person and then they

517
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Speaker 7: found out that I was no longer part of the community,

518
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 7: they didn't care. They were very receptive and loving and

519
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 7: same happy congratulations when they saw that I was engaged

520
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Speaker 7: and got married. But I didn't have a backlash at all.

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Speaker 5: Your character too, like you said, so, yes it does.

522
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Speaker 7: So there's a receptive and loving to me about that.

523
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Speaker 7: Some of the one shot some people that wanted to

524
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Speaker 7: dated me was kind of angry.

525
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Speaker 2: But I mean, oh, I know they was tight.

526
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Speaker 5: They was tight, wasn't it.

527
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Speaker 8: They was like, Oh, that's why he don't want to

528
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Speaker 8: be with me.

529
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Speaker 7: It's all good, all good.

530
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Speaker 12: As a Christian, I know my God he's all powerful.

531
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Speaker 12: He will not be mocked and he will not be overcome.

532
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Speaker 12: But as a mother, and as like I said, an

533
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Speaker 12: auntie who's trying to watch this with my niece's nephews,

534
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Speaker 12: my kids. I'm disgusted that this is what we've come to,

535
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Speaker 12: you know. But again, there is nothing new under the sun,

536
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Speaker 12: so God is not at all surprise.

537
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Speaker 8: So why are we? Why are we?

538
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Speaker 5: You think God was like, I'm so sick of these niggas.

539
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Speaker 11: They keep trying me.

540
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Speaker 8: I think he thought that thousands of years ago. You

541
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Speaker 8: y'all are playing with me.

542
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Speaker 12: Y'all gonna find out when I tell you we gonna,

543
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Speaker 12: we gonna find out. There is this verse in Romans eight,

544
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Speaker 12: and it says that all creation is yearning with eager

545
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Speaker 12: expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. I

546
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Speaker 12: think what that verse reminds me of is that somewhere

547
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Speaker 12: deep down inside the whole world is yearning for more Godliness,

548
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Speaker 12: for more righteousness, for more love.

549
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Speaker 8: And if we, as.

550
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Speaker 12: The sons and daughters of God, will rise up and

551
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Speaker 12: continue to reveal that love to this world, we won't

552
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Speaker 12: be shook by a performance at the Olympics.

553
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Speaker 5: Because we'll be worshiping.

554
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Speaker 12: We'll be worshiping through you know, So stand up, Rise, Up, Rise, up.

555
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Speaker 2: Do you think Christianity is mocked more than any other religion?

556
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Speaker 12: Absolutely? I never seen y'all make fun of Buddha, y'all.

557
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Speaker 12: I would never want y'all will never make Oh, y'all

558
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Speaker 12: never make fun of Buddha.

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Speaker 2: Okay, y'all don't mess with Allah.

560
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Speaker 12: Y'all do not mess with him, y'all don't, y'all really don't.

561
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Speaker 12: But christian Oh my gosh, yes, this I absolutely do.

562
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Speaker 12: But it's because to me, that just tells me that

563
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Speaker 12: y'all have something to tremble for. Y'all have something to

564
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Speaker 12: worry about. And that's why Christianity is so mocked and

565
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 12: so under attack in that way, is because Oh, Satan

566
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Speaker 12: is scared and he's gonna do whatever he can do

567
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Speaker 12: to get as many people to mock and try and

568
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Speaker 12: blaspheme God, because he knows that it's his only competition

569
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Speaker 12: in this world and he will not win. And he's

570
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Speaker 12: trembling in his boots because of it, you know. And

571
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Speaker 12: so I rest, I read. I watched that little performance,

572
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Speaker 12: I walked away, made myself a snack, let them finish up,

573
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Speaker 12: and came back. Y'all not touching my God?

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Speaker 5: You know what you know what.

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Speaker 2: I will say that there were certain parts that I

576
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Speaker 2: just couldn't watch because I was like, no, this is this.

577
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Speaker 8: Is too much. I literally walked away.

578
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Speaker 12: I'm like, going to give me something to eat. I'm

579
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Speaker 12: gonna I'll come back when y'all get to the flips.

580
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to see someone.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, like I'm trying to see Snoop Dogg in

582
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Speaker 12: the crowd.

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Speaker 5: Come on, Snoop, come on, come on.

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Speaker 8: I know he spoke a good one. He looks definitely

585
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 8: did because he was too happy, right.

586
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Speaker 13: I said, Yo, when I go to Paris, this is

587
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Speaker 13: exactly how I'm gonna look, just like.

588
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Speaker 12: I'm replicating his outfit and everything, the entire outfit.

589
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Speaker 2: Yo, y'all gonna be so sick of me because I'm

590
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Speaker 2: thinking about going to Paris for my my birthday next year,

591
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Speaker 2: even though it's gonna be cold, but I'm shying to

592
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Speaker 2: go to Paris. And I'm I'm telling y'all.

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Speaker 9: We we you know me, you know, I mean, yeah, no,

594
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Speaker 9: soon soon, keep my fingers crossed.

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Speaker 8: Come on, God send me my husband.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is a segment that I really wanted to

598
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Speaker 2: get into with you because I share something with you.

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Speaker 2: Off off the air. And you know, spirituality has been

600
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Speaker 2: something that is very popular. And you know I even

601
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Speaker 2: say to you and amongst.

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Speaker 8: The other Christians in our Bible.

603
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Speaker 2: Side, I do believe in psychics and things of that nature,

604
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Speaker 2: right I express to you and my psychic means to

605
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Speaker 2: me and the things that she has helped me with.

606
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Speaker 2: So in your opinion, what is the difference between religion

607
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Speaker 2: and spirituality?

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Speaker 8: That is interesting?

609
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Speaker 12: I think that religion, as far as what it means

610
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Speaker 12: to me as a Christian, right, my direct relationship and

611
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Speaker 12: communion with God is very one. Like there is one God,

612
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Speaker 12: there is one Spirit that allows me and enables me

613
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Speaker 12: to get to Him. I think with spirituality as it

614
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Speaker 12: pertains to what we've talked about, is there is many vessels.

615
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Speaker 12: Now I'm not saying that they're not real, because spirits

616
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Speaker 12: are everywhere. And like I told you that night, the

617
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Speaker 12: realm of the spirit is so broad and so vast

618
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Speaker 12: and so deep we cannot understand it.

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Speaker 13: The Spirit told me to have the picture bury his

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Speaker 13: picture in my mom backyard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah I wish I could see my face.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, real talk, And then what happened? Real talk?

623
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Speaker 13: Just I got to tell you guys, because I want

624
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Speaker 13: to reach out whoever would listen to that. I get

625
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Speaker 13: very emotional and passionate about it because this stuff is real.

626
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Speaker 13: So weeks later he started acting out like he started

627
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Speaker 13: got so attached to me.

628
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Speaker 11: He was abusive to me.

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Speaker 13: He made me start drinking alcohol with him at the

630
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Speaker 13: age of fifteen sixteen, gave me Black Eyes to start

631
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Speaker 13: and I beat. I really forgot that I did that

632
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Speaker 13: spell on him. So when he was asking out, I'm wondering, like,

633
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Speaker 13: what is going on?

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Speaker 11: White? Okay, yeah, what happened?

635
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Speaker 13: And do you know I when later on years later,

636
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Speaker 13: the Heave of Spirit told me why you know, because

637
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Speaker 13: I start fasting and rebrooking and denouncing, and the Holy

638
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 13: Spirit was telling me who what to denounce, what to buying,

639
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Speaker 13: and all that I had to bind.

640
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Speaker 11: That I was a witch, this witch crowd, and what

641
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Speaker 11: I have done to the guy, and I fore totally

642
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Speaker 11: forgot it. Who Yeah.

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Speaker 13: So I was, at the age of fifteen sixteen in

644
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Speaker 13: a brus relationship black Eyes special assault, Like when I

645
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Speaker 13: got to black Eyes and my mom went out on

646
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Speaker 13: a date or something, and you know, I'm young, so

647
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Speaker 13: I wanted to stop talking to him out. He used

648
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Speaker 13: to come to my school. I was at East High.

649
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Speaker 13: He used because he graduated from Central. He used to

650
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Speaker 13: come to my school. I had my on car at

651
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Speaker 13: the age of sixteen, come to my school leading notes,

652
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Speaker 13: I love you, gonna leave me? Just was hold mine gone?

653
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Speaker 6: This mine gone.

654
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Speaker 11: So one night my mom went on a date.

655
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Speaker 13: I was at the house by myself, so I started

656
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Speaker 13: liking a lot another boy. You know, I'm trying to

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Speaker 13: get over here. I'm I'm I told another little boy

658
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Speaker 13: to come over. You know sixteen. I think I was sixteen,

659
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Speaker 13: he was seventeen. And the guy who I did the

660
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Speaker 13: spell long came knocking at my dog on crazy came

661
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Speaker 13: to the window. I know you in there with this

662
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Speaker 13: man all of that, So why did I open the

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Speaker 13: no I opened the doorcoss.

664
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 11: The guy was getting scared. He was like, just go

665
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 11: out there and talk to him. You know.

666
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 13: That I opened the door young, young and stupid, and

667
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 13: I'm just gonna call what it is.

668
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 11: Open the door. He snatched me.

669
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 13: He fighted me because I didn't fight him back, and

670
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 13: so the young man got scared.

671
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 11: He left.

672
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 13: So I knew some kind of way I got back

673
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 13: in the house. So he left.

674
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 11: The guy that would beat me up my explort friends.

675
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 13: So my mom came home. I was scared and my

676
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 13: eyes were swelling up. So I went out in my bed,

677
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 13: cooked a light off, and my mom made it home

678
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 13: and she, you know, cut on the light to check

679
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 13: on her daughter. And I didn't want to turn around

680
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 13: turn around to I talked face some slow that I

681
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 13: didn't want to turn around.

682
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 11: I don't getting past the girl.

683
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm keeping up, baby, I wanted My.

684
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 13: Mom used to be turning around to see, you know,

685
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 13: good night, kiss kiss, you know, look me and I

686
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 13: hold my mom whatever, you know. And I didn't turn

687
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 13: around at night, and she said, what's going on? So

688
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 13: she cut on the light and made me turn around,

689
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 13: like flip me over, you know, because I'm sleeping like

690
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 13: that and my eyes were My mom was just crying,

691
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 13: did this to you?

692
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 8: What happened?

693
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 13: And I didn't want to tell her. She said, I

694
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 13: know who did this to you. So it was like

695
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 13: two summer in the morning. My mom made me go.

696
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 11: To his house.

697
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 13: She was driving. We knocked on the door. His mom

698
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 13: and dad came outside. He lined, do you know this

699
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 13: man good hisself?

700
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 11: The show?

701
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 13: To tell them that I fought him first. I never

702
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 13: touched him. I never touched him. And that's how the

703
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 13: moonic and craziest man mind was And that was the

704
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 13: end of that. You know, I still you know, it

705
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 13: was crazy about him. He was still crazy about me,

706
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 13: wanted me back and was still driving around my house.

707
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 13: But I wouldn't see him after that. So, yeah, what

708
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 13: happened to him the first years later in my thirties,

709
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 13: I seen him in the restaurant with his wife now and.

710
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 11: He like, he didn't see me.

711
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 13: At the bar Yeah, I was at the barber with

712
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 13: my sister friend and still was drinking at the time.

713
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 13: We were having a good time, so I didn't care.

714
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 13: But yeah, that's what happened. He's still doing good. He's

715
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 13: very smart, talented, you know man. At the time he

716
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 13: graduated from college, he went to school for accountants being accountants.

717
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 13: He was there when I had my first baby, my

718
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 13: first born. I forgot to tell you that, Like years

719
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 13: later we got bicked together and he was still crazy.

720
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 11: I don't know why I went back. I was in

721
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 11: my twenties.

722
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 6: I was twenty.

723
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: But you know, you make a good point, because I

724
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: feel like a lot of the influence is coming from

725
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: like the outside world, like the media and stuff, and

726
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of things were introduced. We

727
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: don't even know what we even dabbling into because we're

728
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: thinking that it's cool because of what Witches showed us

729
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: or all these other TV shows and you not even

730
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: knowing that you're doing a whole binding curse.

731
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, yes, yep. So that's what happened to that.

732
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 13: Then I moved on and how I got into Terror Cards.

733
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: So is that? How about to ask you? So what

734
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: was first? Was it horoscopes or Terror Cards?

735
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 13: It was horoscope okay, And then I watched the movie

736
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 13: Did a Spell. Years later in my thirties, I got

737
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 13: into Terror Cards and I was smoking weed.

738
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was one point you were saying how

739
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 2: you were like really addicted to horoscopes.

740
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, I was just at the time when I was fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

741
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 13: I was read them out of the newspaper stuff like that,

742
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 13: because it was not.

743
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 11: A lot of source you can get that. You know,

744
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 11: we don't have cell phones and stuff like that.

745
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 13: So I was so addicted to that, meaning that I

746
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 13: always look at Okay, Leo Scorpio, I'm not gonna talk

747
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 13: to him.

748
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 11: Crazy stuff stuff like that.

749
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 13: But yeah, you know, so later I graduated to some

750
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 13: mold monic.

751
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: So you know, it's so funny. My oldest sister, she

752
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: swears like horoscopes, and she like, right now, like I'm

753
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: in a I'm in the dating world, so you know,

754
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: looking for hoping that God would send me my husband.

755
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 2: And one thing, right, and one thing my sister would

756
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: say was like, always did somebody that's compatible with your

757
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: sign looking ask them for their horoscope?

758
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 11: I was that person.

759
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 13: I was that person that everyone came to and asked me,

760
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 13: what about this sign? You know, I'm a pisty. Do

761
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 13: you think, uh, Secretarius, we will match with me? And

762
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 13: I would stay persting, like no, oh yeah, this girl,

763
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 13: go ahead. He gonna treat you like this and this

764
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 13: and that, with your personality, with your uh your what

765
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 13: they call it, your moon in line up with your mercury.

766
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 6: It went.

767
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 11: I was all into that. Wow, all up into it.

768
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 6: Now.

769
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 2: Tell us about how he was introduced to terrort Cards,

770
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 2: my cousin, my best cousin a whole world.

771
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 11: Yes, love her, but we don't talk. I had to

772
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 11: let her go.

773
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 13: But yeah, because of this situation, oh yeah, oh yeah,

774
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 13: And I hate that right to this day. I think

775
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 13: about her were still I moved back home. I was

776
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 13: in Houston for two years. I moved back home, and

777
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 13: I know she missed me, and uh, she still do

778
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 13: terrort cards and stuff. One time I think she had

779
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 13: like a phone thing and people calling for her. She

780
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 13: had a business and I know she doing tel cars,

781
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 13: So I know the cars is telling her about me.

782
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 4: You want to make the history itself the horror, but

783
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 4: if you delve too far that direction, it becomes what

784
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 4: people call trauma porn, and it retraumatizes instead of healing. Right, So,

785
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 4: if you look at the pilot of Lovecraft Country, Lovecraft Country.

786
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: Is we're so in sync because I was literally thinking

787
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 2: about Lovecraft Country.

788
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: Well, it's so in that lane right, like that that

789
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 4: scary empty road and the headlights shoo.

790
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 6: That's like out of my parents' stories. That's out of

791
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 6: my nightmares.

792
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 4: The sundown town, the police chasing you out of the diner.

793
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: That's some of the scariest stuff in the episode. But

794
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: it's not unwatchable because we don't have to watch a lynching.

795
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 6: We don't.

796
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 4: You know, in fact, right when you're starting to maybe

797
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 4: feel like you're gonna get triggered, monsters appear right, and

798
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 4: it's the fantasy element that makes it fun to watch.

799
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 4: And I think sometimes newer horror creators who get that

800
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 4: platform and they were like, oh, finally we're going to

801
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 4: get some black horror, they forget that it's supposed to

802
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: be entertainment. Yeah, And the question is entertaining for who?

803
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 4: Because I have seen some black horror that was not

804
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 4: entertaining that was just based on racist violence as the horror.

805
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 4: I get it that racist violence is horror. I get

806
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 4: it that lynching is horrific, but I'm not going to

807
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: watch the lynching for fun.

808
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 6: You can probably think of.

809
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 4: Examples from films and television where the racist violence went

810
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 4: too far, and everybody has a different level where it's

811
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 4: going to feel like too far for you. But I

812
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 4: think there's some that are pretty like that would be

813
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 4: too far for just about anybody.

814
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: Because if I'm thinking a one particular movie and that

815
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: was a lot that it was intense, I'm like, I

816
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: don't want to see this.

817
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that the confusing thing that's what's

818
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 4: brilliant about the remake of Candy Man are not the sequel,

819
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 4: rather the spiritual sequel to Candy Man.

820
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 6: That Nea the Costa directed.

821
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: That monkey Pop put out because you know, as I'm

822
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: going to be telling my class on Tuesday next week.

823
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: There's a whole bunch of problematic stuff in the original

824
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: Candy Man. I love it. It's scary as heck, but

825
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: it has some problematic issues, mainly that it's black trauma

826
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 4: through a white lens. If I had to summarize it,

827
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 4: that would be the main issue. That it's like supposed

828
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: to be based around black trauma, But why aren't we

829
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 4: telling the story.

830
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: And killing us what in the hood he should be

831
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: killing them.

832
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 4: So the New Candy Man, which I like to call

833
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 4: Candy Man Reclamation, tells the story of black trauma through

834
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 4: a black lens. It makes Cabrini green like a neighborhood

835
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: in the flashbacks instead of just like some kind of

836
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 4: like trashy set, which is what it was in the original.

837
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 4: And it's like they weren't even real people. They were

838
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 4: kind of like props.

839
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 6: You can see in the New Candy Man. Oh, he's

840
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 6: doing his laundry. This is our neighborhood. This is what

841
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 6: families live here. It looks a real, one small thing.

842
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 4: But the main thing was when it's describing a scene

843
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 4: of violence that went to that animated puppetry like instead

844
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: of watching somebody get hurt by violent racists, it's a

845
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 4: very sort of stylized rendering of Candy Man's story that

846
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 4: is not triggering, and it helps you stay in that

847
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 4: once upon a time storytelling state rather than flinching because

848
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: it reminds you of something you saw in the news

849
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: last week or something that happened to your grandfather.

850
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: Right right now, you got me thinking because I'm thinking

851
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: about the end and when Tony Todd appears and you

852
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: speaking about how ancestors come back to sort of right

853
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: there wrong.

854
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 5: So is that what he was doing.

855
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: In the end?

856
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: Yes, I think that the original spirit of Candy Man,

857
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: who inexplicably was killing his own people in the first movie,

858
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 4: is announcing himself as an avenging angel.

859
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 6: And that line.

860
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: When I first heard that line tell everyone, I was like,

861
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 4: I felt goosebumps, right, because it's like, tell everyone, I

862
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 4: will be here to beat that ass if you have

863
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: an issue, like if like, yeah, he basically killed a

864
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: whole bunch of police officers at the end of the movie,

865
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: you know which in the wake of George Floyd, And

866
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: it was actually shot before that and then delayed in

867
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: COVID and all that, but that was the spirit you

868
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 4: know that everybody. There was even a character named Brianna,

869
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 4: you know, in The New Candy Man. Yeah, so that

870
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 4: black Lives matter theme was very strong. But also this revenge.

871
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: So that's something you see in black horror, like revenge,

872
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 4: not revenge. It's called tales from the Hood.

873
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 8: Oh that was a classic man from the nineties.

874
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that I was a kid.

875
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 9: Yeah.

876
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all about trying to take power when we

877
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: don't have it in real life.

878
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 6: When it's revenge horror.

879
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 4: But that's you know, again, there's so many different kinds,

880
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 4: and of course Vodo appears in some black horror or

881
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 4: root magic and you know, conjuring that kind of thing.

882
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 6: We see it.

883
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Speaker 4: It can be overdone and it can be done badly,

884
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 4: but there's also great projects that.

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Speaker 6: Use that too.

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious because I was a fan of Lovecraft Country.

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Speaker 2: So what were your thoughts when you heard that they

888
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Speaker 2: was counseled.

889
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: I was disappointed, you know, of course, I think that

890
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: there were some classic classic moments in Lovecraft Country. Some

891
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 4: of them had nothing to do with horror, you know,

892
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: like just seeing grown folks in bed together like grown

893
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 4: black people. Boy, Like you know that was with Courtney

894
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 4: b Vance and I never got over the loss of him. Yeah. Yeah,

895
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 4: those twins were super scary in the Emmett Tel episode.

896
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got so many bread crumbs and like it

897
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: made you want to go back and read on history

898
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Speaker 2: about our people.

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Speaker 8: For me, it did.

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00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 4: It's just, you know, I think in our current environment,

901
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: TV shows are not getting the chance they used to,

902
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 4: and it's very common, unfortunately for shows to be canceled

903
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: after a single season. You might as well just call

904
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Speaker 4: it a limited series. Then that's what you're going to do, right,

905
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 4: and then more artists would be able to wrap up

906
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 4: the story, you know, because clearly Love Crowd Country felt

907
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 4: like it could go in like a whole.

908
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 5: Difference, so many different ways direction at the end.

909
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was disappointing, but honestly not surprising.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 2: Facts, Now, what's a horror film you think everyone should

912
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 2: watch to better understand black experiences through the genre lenses?

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Speaker 6: All right?

914
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: Now, get out is my usual standard answer. So I

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00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 4: have to say get out, but and hear me out

916
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 4: on this The Blackening, The Blackening, Dwayne Perkins just spoke

917
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 4: to my class virtually, and he is. He is a

918
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 4: really bright brother actually, and he co wrote the movie,

919
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: so he didn't just star and he co wrote it.

920
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: And what I love about The Blackening is that it

921
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: is such black andy black horror. I mean, it's like

922
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 4: it's got the tongue in cheek references to the things

923
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 4: that we as audience members say we would never do,

924
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 4: like let's.

925
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Speaker 8: Not split up.

926
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Speaker 4: There's a whole joke around that because we're watching the

927
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 4: movie going what is wrong with these people?

928
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 6: You know?

929
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 4: So it carries our sensibility into the story.

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00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 6: M hm. And because it's.

931
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 4: Literally a Juneteenth themed movie, right, they incorporate black history

932
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 4: into this game in a way that I truly appreciate, Like.

933
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Speaker 6: The second verse to lift every voice and seeing now,

934
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 6: I admit I would have been dead, but I would

935
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Speaker 6: have got them.

936
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Speaker 4: Like first verse and third verse. I could have handled that,

937
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 4: but it's that second verse. I don't know, right, And

938
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: if you don't know how to play Spade, you don't

939
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 4: know how to play Bidwist. But all this is just

940
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: sort of their historical references, their cultural references. The movie

941
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 4: makes a point, I think a very strong point again

942
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 4: that Blackness is not a monolith because these are all

943
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: very different characters. One woman is biracial, One of the

944
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 4: characters is his family is from the continent of Africa.

945
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: One of them was kind of a thug back in

946
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: the day, but he's loosened up. I mean, there are

947
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 4: all these different personality types and it's not only as

948
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: a thunt, but it's actually Harry. So I'm gonna I'm

949
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 4: gonna say, you know, obviously, get out, but don't sleep

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00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 4: on the Blackening.

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Speaker 1: Once again, thank you for tuning into the Black Podcast Network.

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