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Speaker 1: on a Friday afternoon, in the final work day of

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Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker. It is gray and that's okay.

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Speaker 1: tell me shorting our stuff out? Eric Washington's a new

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Speaker 1: He brought his wife with him to Cleveland for the interview.

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Speaker 1: play a I don't have if I'm I'm a free agent.

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Speaker 1: Now he puts the ball right in your court, as

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Speaker 1: Who's he going to talk to first? The Patriots? Sure

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Speaker 1: continues to get better on all fronts, and that's that's

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Speaker 1: pretty fun. That's pretty fun to be And I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm with a lot of the people say, um,

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Speaker 1: worries about where I expected him to be. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people think he's actually better than they

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Speaker 1: thought he would be. And that's that's ninety five percent

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Speaker 1: of the people who've seen this guy on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: And I take it for a Twitter poll that that's

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Speaker 1: most of the people they've been watching, you know, their

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Speaker 1: Bills fan. I mean, we're not getting the many Patriot

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Speaker 1: fans watching us right right, So yeah, I think we're

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Speaker 1: all kind of in the same ninety five percent of

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Speaker 1: us think he's it right where we thought he'd be

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Speaker 1: or even better. So that's that's a fun spot to

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Speaker 1: be in for a ten and sixteen I think, um,

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Speaker 1: a fair minded person would see the growth from one

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Speaker 1: year to the next in Josh Allen's game and anticipating

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Speaker 1: and sort of project more growth to come. Right. The

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Speaker 1: way he does get better is a good sign for

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Speaker 1: the future. That is, you know, obviously there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of things to improve for Josh Allen it's game time

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Speaker 1: decision making, it's um posure in tough spots, and that

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Speaker 1: was as tough as it cats last Saturday. But the

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Speaker 1: fact that he makes the plays that he makes, even

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Speaker 1: despite those shortcomings, I think is a good sign. And

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Speaker 1: it's way improved over it was a year ago, and

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Speaker 1: I think most Bills fans look at it and say,

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Speaker 1: all right, at the current rate, he'll be that much

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Speaker 1: better next year and maybe the year after that. In

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Speaker 1: other words, I don't think he's at his ceiling yet.

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Speaker 1: I think he might be two or maybe even three

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Speaker 1: years away from his ceiling in the NFL. And that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty cool sign. That's pretty good signed for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I go back to as well, when he came out.

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Speaker 1: They some of the stuff comes out and you don't

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Speaker 1: know what to make of it, and some of it, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's right, some of it's not. He theoretically and what

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Speaker 1: they said and what the book on him was, and

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Speaker 1: he was really really sharp, really smart. He tested out

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Speaker 1: in those intelligence tests way way above most of the guys,

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Speaker 1: certainly all the other quarterbacks in that draft. He was

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Speaker 1: the smartest one and it was significant. And to me,

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Speaker 1: I've always said this too, and one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why I've seen players excel in this league, not just

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Speaker 1: to the guys I played with, but the players that

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Speaker 1: I've seen and covered. The smart players always continue to

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Speaker 1: improve throughout their career. Obviously, it takes some other things

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Speaker 1: other than just intelligence. It takes a work ethic and

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Speaker 1: a commitment to being better. That has to be your goal.

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Speaker 1: Yet your goal has to be I want to be

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Speaker 1: the best I can be, or the best, the greatest.

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Speaker 1: I want to be legendary. I want to be a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame type player. I want to be this

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Speaker 1: iconic player. I want to be one of the best

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Speaker 1: in the league at my position at some point. And

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Speaker 1: that is where Josh seems to be sitting. So if

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Speaker 1: all that, you throw that intelligence and the hard work

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Speaker 1: in the ethic, and you gotta think, okay, he hasn't

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Speaker 1: topped out yet. And also you start too. And I

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Speaker 1: said a little bit of this yesterday, Murph. He had

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Speaker 1: a long way to go a little further than those

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Speaker 1: other guys in that draft had to go. He was

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Speaker 1: at Wyoming, he was a small town guy. I think

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Speaker 1: even Buffalo is a big city for him. He's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of this Opie Taylor Galigi Whiz when he

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Speaker 1: came out, you know, he says, I'm super excited, and

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Speaker 1: I got that kind of thing you never hear. You

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Speaker 1: never hear you guys like you know, Philip Rivers and

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers going yeah, I'm super excited. You know. They

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Speaker 1: they're kind of relaxed and they're kind of above it all.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not too much for them. They take

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Speaker 1: it in stride, and Josh is still a little bit

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Speaker 1: of this wow Gotti g kid. And I think when

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Speaker 1: he gets more into this and further down the road

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Speaker 1: and he's seen all this a time or two or

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Speaker 1: ten times, he's gonna be like, Okay, yeah, I get

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Speaker 1: this right. And when he gets to that point, I

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Speaker 1: think all of those crazy laterals and off the wall

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Speaker 1: plays that he tries to make the bad sacks and

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Speaker 1: stuff go away because he's like, oh I got it,

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Speaker 1: throw it away, Oh I got it here. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm gonna take this check down, stay

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Speaker 1: on the field. Here we go. Let's all right, first

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Speaker 1: and ten, let's go more of a calm, executive type

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Speaker 1: of attitude rather than this this point of the spear

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Speaker 1: guy who thinks he's always got to be dragging everybody

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Speaker 1: along behind him. So I think that's on the horizon.

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Speaker 1: But for me, he's still got ways to go, and

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Speaker 1: I think of what I've seen already, I got faith

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get there. That's the big question, right, you

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Speaker 1: gotta believe, man, this guy is gonna get there at

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Speaker 1: that point. Yeah he may not, but I think he is.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, maybe prove proved me wrong, proved me right.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to watch. Ye take a phone

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Speaker 1: called Jim in South Carolina. Hello, Jim, you're on the

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Speaker 1: air with this. I was just wondering yesterday when you

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Speaker 1: had Ross Tucker run. He was discussing Um Josh's football IQ,

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Speaker 1: and it was what he's saying, the three to four

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Speaker 1: range and maybe he could get up to six seven range.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious what that means because it seems like the

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Speaker 1: guy's very bright, and they're equating his raw talent or

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Speaker 1: naive being with essentially not being able to have the

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Speaker 1: ability to get up to have a real good situational

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Speaker 1: awareness in football. I'll take your comments off. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to say. It's hard to quitefy that. I

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Speaker 1: know the wonder lead tests that everybody does. He scored

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Speaker 1: higher than any other quarterback in twenty eighteen. He had

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Speaker 1: a wonder score of thirty seven. Josh Rosen was the

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Speaker 1: next closest with twenty nine. Lamar Jackson MVP coming up

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Speaker 1: in a week or two. Lamar Jackson had a Wonderlooked

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Speaker 1: Test of like thirteen, So that shows you how much

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Speaker 1: to look at the wonderlock tests. But Josh is regarded

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Speaker 1: as smart. There's IQ. I don't know, I have an

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Speaker 1: IQ test in front of me. But the Wonderlock test

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Speaker 1: report was that Josh Ellen was the highest rated, highest

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Speaker 1: tested quarterback in the twenty eighteen draft, which is a

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Speaker 1: good sign. I think, yeah, But you know, it's an ingredient.

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Speaker 1: It's I think, an important ingredient. But you never hear

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Speaker 1: really truly elite quarterbacks being talked about is not being

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Speaker 1: all there. I mean, Lamar Jackson's lights are on, he

546
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Speaker 1: is situationally aware, He's supremely gifted and smart guys are

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Speaker 1: committed guys. And you know, you hear a lot about

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers being the smartest guy in the room wherever

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Speaker 1: he goes. Drew Brees, same thing. Philip Rivers the depth

550
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Speaker 1: of knowledge he brings to the table. Peyton Manning, I mean, goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 1: I mean he saw the things that he did to

552
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Speaker 1: change the quarterback position and how it's evaluated, let alone

553
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Speaker 1: how he played it. So it is an ingredient in

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Speaker 1: all the elite quarterbacks, one of the that that trait

555
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Speaker 1: of being really sharp with the football in their hands.

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and Houston has given a couple of press

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Speaker 1: conferences this year where he wiled some people with his

558
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Speaker 1: acuity and able to articulate what he was looking at

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Speaker 1: and why he did the things he did. Was pretty

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Speaker 1: pretty enlightening for a lot of people to hear Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson go into those that kind of level of conversations.

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Speaker 1: So it's out there and it is an important ingredient,

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Speaker 1: but it's not the be all end all. Most of

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Speaker 1: those guys have it. So you know, if you've got it,

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Speaker 1: it just means you get in. You get a ticket

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Speaker 1: in the door, doesn't mean you're gonna be actually automatically,

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen for you. You gotta do something

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Speaker 1: with it. You gotta be committed, and you gotta work hard,

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Speaker 1: and you got to get better. So that all remains

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Speaker 1: to be seen, but we've seen progress. All right. We'll

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Speaker 1: take you break. We got Phil Simson, anybody to join us,

572
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Speaker 1: a long time NFL quarterback, get his thoughts on Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen's development after two years. And we'll take more phone

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Speaker 1: calls as well. Come on back. One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: Coming here from the set. He just walks off. Hell.

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Speaker 1: Coming here from the set of studio in Archard Park.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. One Bill's Live, Friday Afternoon,

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live, John Murphy with Steve Tansker, got great

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Speaker 1: joins us a too, right now, right now in the

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Speaker 1: line with us. We spent fifteen seasons as a quarterback

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Speaker 1: with the New York Giants nineteen seventy nine through nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety three, Super Bowl twenty one MVP. Now with the

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Speaker 1: NFL on CBS and Showtime's Inside the NFL. Really happy

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Speaker 1: to have Phil Simms on the line with this film.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy and Jeve Task you're here in Buffalo. Thanks

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Speaker 1: coming on with the city. We appreciate him. Well, thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me on. I appreciate that. Um love watching

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills this year. And you got the great

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosell coming on later. Huh round the film I did?

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Speaker 1: I did that? Oh shoot, what's the name of the

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Speaker 1: show they run every week down there? Matchup? Matchup? Thank you,

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Speaker 1: it's been a long time. I was on it for

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Speaker 1: one year with him, and my claim to fame on

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Speaker 1: that show is I did the first running play in

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Speaker 1: the history of NFL Matchup. So there we go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're not a big running They're not a big running

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Speaker 1: But back then it was always the passing game and

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Speaker 1: it was Ron Jaworski. Ali Sherman was on I think

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Speaker 1: back in those days or whatever, and Greg was the producer.

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Speaker 1: So I went down and said, man, the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: He got this guy Jamanti Dawson, he leads the sweeps

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Speaker 1: at center and this and that. He goes, well, let's

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Speaker 1: do it. And you know, I think that was the

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Speaker 1: very first time they ever ad so it was kind

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Speaker 1: of funny. And so you're still doing that. You do

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Speaker 1: the studio thing you do spend some time with running

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Speaker 1: thinking about quarterbacks. I know we whenever we talk, we

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Speaker 1: go down the list of guys that you're either interested

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Speaker 1: in or have worked with. And you and I we

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Speaker 1: had all the way back to two years ago when

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Speaker 1: the draft was coming out, Josh Allen came out. You

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Speaker 1: had some different thoughts about his accuracy, issues, his throwing

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Speaker 1: motion and stuff. Now we're two years into his career.

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Speaker 1: He was five and six last year, ten and six

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Speaker 1: this year. Where's he gotten better? Where's he gotten better? Well?

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Speaker 1: I think he plays the game better, understands how to

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Speaker 1: be the situations and everything like that. In the second year,

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Speaker 1: I think his progress it would encourage me as a

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Speaker 1: Buffalo coach in the organization as a fan. Can he

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Speaker 1: get better? Yes, it can, I think if I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I hate to be critical, but one thing

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Speaker 1: that I saw, even late in the Houston game and

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Speaker 1: where it's just going to be hard to make a

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Speaker 1: good throw and you know, not to get technical. I

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Speaker 1: throw it with a lot of quarterbacks. In fact, I'm

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Speaker 1: a little horse right now because I was with a

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Speaker 1: group of college quarterbacks last night. And you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not a yeller and screamer Steve, but I do talk

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Speaker 1: with some force. And you know, there are certain things

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks do in the NFL that is almost consistent with

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Speaker 1: everyone in the league gets good and and I talk

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00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: about their arm. How long does your arm get when

639
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: you go to throw the football? And one problem that

640
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has that I know he probably hates me

641
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: talking about and everybody, but when your hand the farther

642
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: it gets away from your body to throw the football,

643
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 1: it's not just your arm, but other parts of your

644
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: body react to that, and that will make you an

645
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: accurate and it holds the test of time. And people say, oh,

646
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: come on in this And it's like a golfer. If

647
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: a golfer has a little part of his swing that's

648
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: not correct, then it's going on effect the shot. Sooner

649
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: or later. You get away with him many many times

650
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: not out ten, but man, the one you missed could

651
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: be the one that you really had to hit. And

652
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: that's what I see. I think there were times this

653
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: year he was extremely good technically, and then also, of

654
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: course several times I'd see it throw and I go,

655
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: my gosh, his arm almost hit hit the goal post

656
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: behind him. He reached back so far. But his talent

657
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: is undeniable. I love him as a quarterback. I think

658
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: that the Bills as a team did a really good

659
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: job with the quarterback and how he was incorporated into

660
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: the offense and what Sean McDermott really wanted to see

661
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: with the second year quarterback. So sorry for the long answer,

662
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: but there's a lot to it. I want to ask

663
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: you more about that, and in particular that mechanical thing.

664
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: Where does his hand his arm get away from him?

665
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: I mean another word, I'm sorry, go ahead. Well it's

666
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: it down here in the wind up down lower is no, no,

667
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 1: it stays high. He never really drops the ball. Just

668
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: put it this way. If you put your elbow and

669
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: hang your arm, don't move your elbow and bring your

670
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: arm your hand up to where it's level with your elbow.

671
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: That's the angle. And man, that's when that angle breaks.

672
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: When you take it back, the trouble comes. And it

673
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: just not it's just not your arm. The longer your

674
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: arm gets, the more your body will move and it

675
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: just creates more problems. So think of Tom Brady, Think

676
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers, let's just keep going through it. Think

677
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: of Kirk Cousins. Who else is in the playoffs? Just

678
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: name them? They all almost every one. The only probably

679
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: exception to the rule that I've ever seen that really

680
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: is a tremendous thrower who does is um Russell Wilson.

681
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson throws it like a baseball, huge hands, grips

682
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: the ball at the end, makes it really small, and

683
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: he's one of the few guys I've seen that can

684
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: really extend his arm and still able to get through

685
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: the football and make achora throw. So that's what I

686
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: mean by that. It's not down, it's how far it

687
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: goes back is when you get into problems. Yeah, I

688
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: know we're talking about Josh Allen and his throwing motion.

689
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: Do you think that is the I don't know whether

690
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: it's a magic elixir, but is that the next big

691
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: step for his development or is there something else? Yes,

692
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna hide it. I don't care. Yes, absolutely,

693
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: you correct that. His throwing and when he does do it,

694
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: I see him do it every time. Remember, once in

695
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: a while he'll throw a curl route or something over

696
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: the middle where the the coverage is tight and he

697
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: gets today and he throws a perfect spiral. Of course,

698
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 1: always with power no matter what he does. Usually guys

699
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: that extend to arm lose power as they throw it.

700
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: You know, he's worth a few that can do it

701
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: wrong and still have great power. But the big thing

702
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: is is this, When you do it the right way,

703
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 1: you throw great spirals. You know how to put better

704
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: touch on the ball. You're using your body mords that

705
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: are just relying on your arm. It's like a golfer.

706
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: You kind of want to swing with your body. If

707
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: you just stand there and stand fight food and just

708
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: swing your arms. Well, okay, that's what some quarterbacks do.

709
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: And a lot of times those quarterbacks we don't know

710
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: about them because we don't get to see him play.

711
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: He felt another question about Josh and it happened Saturday.

712
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 1: It's as games go along, sometimes he kind of goes

713
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: off the rails a little bit. You know, he had

714
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: that crazy lateral play in last Saturday's game. A couple

715
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: you know he took back to back sas. Is that

716
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: just a function of experience what those plays might happen?

717
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: You think, yes, it really is. And I think you

718
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: know too listen. Like I said, I we got the

719
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: big We said it in the studio many times. They

720
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: came to us after a Buffalo game and I don't

721
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: know why game it was and what he did, and

722
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: I said, I don't care if it's good or bad

723
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen as must see TV man took cause

724
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: he throws the greatest fifty yard incompletions I've ever seen.

725
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: And so but when you're talking about what he did,

726
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: the mistakes, the sacks, the lateral, some of that comes

727
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: from lack of plane time in the NFL, and just

728
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, really, Buffalo is not what I would call

729
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: a passing team, So when you're not a passing team,

730
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: sometimes your improvement is going to come along a little slower.

731
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: But I thought he made great improvements this year. And

732
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: I stand by what I said at the beginning. I've

733
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: always been a fan. I saw him at Wyoming and

734
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: I watched team and I remember watching him. It was

735
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: thirty mile in our wins. Everybody was in they looked

736
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: like they lived in up in Alaska. They were dressed

737
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: in the stands, and he was throwing unbelievable passes in

738
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: the game, and I just that's when I started paying

739
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: attention to him. I forgot who they were playing, but

740
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: somebody that wasn't very good, but Wyoming wasn't very good either,

741
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: But that's what I caught my eye. And like I said,

742
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: I've been a big fan and I think he will

743
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: continue to improve. And once more weapons get around him,

744
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: they change the offense, maybe just a little more to

745
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: make it I hate the term, but a little more

746
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: quarterback friendly, to give him more easy throws and to

747
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that, to expand what they do

748
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: in the passing game. And I think we'll see that

749
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: next year. Well, this is in year three of this

750
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: Bill's regime with Brandon being Sean McDermott. They you know,

751
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: they they backed into the playoffs in year one. They

752
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: took a step backwards after starting a rookie quarterback last year.

753
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: Now that they've taken a big leap forward. And they

754
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: were in the playoff conversation right in week one and

755
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: it never left. So what do you and now with this?

756
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: And they had a number two or number three defense

757
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: overall in the National Football League all the way through

758
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: the season. They were verging, they were verging on elite

759
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: all year defensively, So now what do you do they

760
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: get a big time wide receiver. They bolsted the offensive line.

761
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: What's the next step to get this offense better around

762
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: this young quarterback? Well, I think, like I said, one

763
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: is just getting a little more creative. You know. Listen,

764
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: you look at offenses around the league, you know, and

765
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: so just we'll take the biggest name of all, Tom Brady. Okay,

766
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: they didn't have weapons, but you know they led the

767
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: league and throwing screen passes, this, that pick plays whatever.

768
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes Tom Brady be ten for ten. He

769
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: didn't throw the ball more than two yards down the field.

770
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: And then you know, the announcers would go, Tom Brady

771
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: is surgical today, it's unbelievable, and you know all that stuff.

772
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, which we all know it's true, and it's fine.

773
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: It's I wish I could have played that way. It'd

774
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: have been great. Put up great but that but they

775
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: did a good job. I thought this all season. I

776
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: thought the Buffalo Bills, how they rebuilt, rebuilt their team,

777
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: especially the offensive line, was very good. But your right,

778
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: Steve and Murphy, they need another receiver probably too, to

779
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: really make that group where they can expand what they

780
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: do on the offensive side. I think it's that simple

781
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: and you can do that. And you know, some of

782
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: these receiving groups as you look around the league are

783
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: the great teams. You know, as we I'm sitting here

784
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: thinking about the Kansas City Chiefs, the Houston Texans, all

785
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: the moves they made to reinforce their football team, especially

786
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: on the offensive side, and we saw it this past

787
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: year with Buffalo. They basically remade their offensive line and

788
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: their offensive line was tremendous, are really good all year long.

789
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: So I'm sure they got that plan in place. They

790
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: know what they got to do, and probably going to

791
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: need another I would think another running back also to

792
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: go along with Devin Singletary. His running he got better

793
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: his year went along, which was great to see and

794
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: will you do that. The quarterback's going to improve. But

795
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's got to prove himself to really take the

796
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: new weapons and how they change and just drive it

797
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: to the top. I'm watching that game, I don't know

798
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: where we were in the studio, and he started the

799
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: game tremendous, the movement, the throws on the run, just

800
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: the decision making everything, And you guys kind of said

801
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: it right. It seemed like as the game went along,

802
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: it kind of unraveled a little on him, and I

803
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: think with experience, those situations won't happen to him in

804
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: the future. Before we let you go, any thoughts on

805
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: Joe Judge, the new head coach of the New York Giants.

806
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: What do you think? Well, I'd like to give you

807
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: some thoughts on it, but I can't tell you anything.

808
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't never met Joe Judge. I

809
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: know that Bill Belichick spent more time before games talking

810
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: to Joe Judge and did any other coach on the field.

811
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: Almost every time I did a game with them, and

812
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: we would even in the studio, we would show a

813
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 1: shot of doing that on the field, and I go there,

814
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: he is talking to Joe Judge, and because Bill Belichick

815
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: his love and what he tries to win and take

816
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: advantag jumping games as special teams. But the only thing

817
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: I do know about him is he is truly a

818
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: no nonsense guy, pretty tough, and I think the Giants

819
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: they were looking for what you would call an overseer.

820
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: They don't want to defensive coordinator calling the defense. They

821
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: didn't want somebody calling the offensive plays. They want somebody

822
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: to manage the football team. And I've told people this,

823
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: Bill parcels he didn't really coach either side, but he

824
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: would walk into the rooms or the coordinators or the

825
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: coaches on offense and they're doing the game play and

826
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: he'd look at the board and he goes, look, we're

827
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: not throwing the ball to this guy, you know, Daryl Green.

828
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to see one pass the Daryl Green

829
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: side the whole game. So he goes and then he

830
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: would go up to the board and take the eraser

831
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: and wipe off like eight plays and all we're not

832
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: going to run the ball over here against extra manley

833
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: knock off these and you know, time he got done

834
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: a racing that the coaches going, hell, we got nothing left.

835
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: But he would do the same thing on defense too,

836
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: and he managed the game. I can see him on

837
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: the side lines going Ron Airber was our coordinator for

838
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: many years. Ron I said, run the f and ball.

839
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: So Ron must have called a pass and Parcel said no.

840
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: And he would do the same thing to Bill Belichick.

841
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: So he was always managing both sides of the ball.

842
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: And I really mean this. He coached every player on

843
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: the team. He was an expert in punt returns, he

844
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: was an extra on fair catching this. He coached the receivers.

845
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: He's always telling me things. I'd go, oh, okay, you

846
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: want me to get my arm higher? How do I

847
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: do that? How about I hold it higher? Bill? You

848
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: know whatever, But he just was I really kind of

849
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: believe in that approach that the head coach has got

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Speaker 1: to stay in touch with the whole football team. And

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Speaker 1: he's one of the and Belichick two. Belichick coaches the

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Speaker 1: whole team. When I would, I did about ninety New

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Speaker 1: England games and my broadcasting game career, and I think

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Speaker 1: it was around ninety. And Bill Belichick coaches every facet

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Speaker 1: of the game in every practice, and I think that's

856
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Speaker 1: what the Giants are looking for. We'll see if they

857
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Speaker 1: got the right guy. Bill, Phil, Bill, thanks for doing

858
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Speaker 1: I was talking you got me on Bill Belichick. Thanks

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00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: for doing this. Phil, appreciate it. That's okay. Tell the

860
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Speaker 1: great great Cosal that it's our I love listened to

861
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Speaker 1: him and everything, and he does a great job. So

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Speaker 1: you guys have a great day. Thank you for man.

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Speaker 1: Phil Simms NFL on CBS. He's on Showtime two Inside

864
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Speaker 1: the NFL fifteen seasons as the Giants quarterback seventy nine

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Speaker 1: through ninety three MBP of Super Bowl twenty one. Phil

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Speaker 1: Simms on the line with us. We'll talk about what

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Speaker 1: Phil had to say, We'll talk about a lot more

868
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Speaker 1: as well. Want to hear from you. What do you think?

869
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Speaker 1: How do you feel about Josh Allen following his second

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Speaker 1: season with the Bills? Give us a call eight oh

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Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty one. Bill's Live presented by Kalada

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Speaker 1: Health from the Seneca Studios. This is Buffalo Bills Radio

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Speaker 1: lot of Josh Allen talk. Today. Bill Sims talked about

875
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Speaker 1: him at length. Great go sell will get it on

876
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: him as well. You have a chance to as well.

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Speaker 1: Let's our Twitter pole question, how do you feel about

878
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: Josh Allen following the second season with the Bills? What

879
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: do you think? Take a few phone calls here, Brady

880
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: in New Hampshire, Brady around the air, go ahead, Hey,

881
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Guys. Sure I heard the

882
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: Twitter poll today and I felt compelled to call in.

883
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Speaker 1: I was thinking about a Twitter poll you had this

884
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: summer and it was actually what would it take for

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00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to have a great season, and I believe

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Speaker 1: the categories were sixty five percent completion percentage, throw for

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Speaker 1: thirty five hundred yards, have a three to one touchdown

888
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: to interception ratio, and I can't remember the other one,

889
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Speaker 1: but one story short, I don't think he hit on

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Speaker 1: a single one of those, right. But with that being said,

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00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: he improved in almost every statistical category, and the aside

892
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: from the statistics, just the grit, the way that he

893
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: brought the team together. I really think he did a

894
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: lot than I had even imagined this season. Do you

895
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: think he's Brady? Do you think now, after seeing what

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Speaker 1: you've seen over the last you know, in the ten

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Speaker 1: and six record and all that stuff, do you think

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Speaker 1: those numbers of sixty thirty five hundred three to one

899
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Speaker 1: TD inter set, you think that's out of reach. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's out of reach at all. And

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Speaker 1: I really don't think that that he's very far off.

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00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,479
Speaker 1: I think it's just some some fine tuning things. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, as Phil Sims had said, getting some extra

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Speaker 1: receiver help, uh, it will will certainly help open up

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Speaker 1: the offense. I agree with that. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the other big thing is the sacks this year he

907
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Speaker 1: just took some some some poor sacks and inopportune times.

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Speaker 1: And I don't really know. I don't know enough about

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Speaker 1: football to note if that's on the offensive line, if

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Speaker 1: that's on him for holding the ball too long, or

911
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: maybe just that he doesn't have a receiver open to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball too. But I think if he could

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Speaker 1: cut down on that, um, you know, he's looking really good.

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Speaker 1: And and I'm gonna be honest, I wasn't that pumped

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Speaker 1: about Josh Allen pre draft. But going back, if if

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Speaker 1: if I could take any any of the player's draft

917
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Speaker 1: did in the two thousand and eighteen draft class, knowing

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Speaker 1: what I know now, I'd picked Josh without without it.

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Speaker 1: You know what you said, Lamar, you wouldn't you take

920
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: Josh over Lamar Jackson? Absolutely? You know what you said,

921
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Speaker 1: Brady that I'm glad you said. It's a lot of

922
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Speaker 1: these things. And maybe we had those numbers, as you know,

923
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Speaker 1: parameters for Josh to hit, and maybe we didn't. I

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Speaker 1: don't recall that particular Twitter poll, but a lot of

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Speaker 1: what Josh is not measured by numbers, right, I mean,

926
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Speaker 1: the ultimate number is wins, and he certainly increased the

927
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Speaker 1: number of wins the Bills had from a year ago.

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Speaker 1: But I think as a leader, as a as a

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Speaker 1: guy doing the right things, making the right decisions, he's

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Speaker 1: done pretty well at that And that can't be measured, right,

931
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Speaker 1: Is that what you're thinking, Brady or absolutely? And look

932
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Speaker 1: at his teammates saying it, I want to ride with Josh. Yeah,

933
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Speaker 1: I want to roll with Josh. I mean even his

934
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Speaker 1: teammates feel that way. And yeah, you don't have a

935
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Speaker 1: statistic for that. You don't have a statistic for heart,

936
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Speaker 1: you don't have a statistic for grit, you don't have

937
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Speaker 1: a statistics for that mental toughness. But he's got it

938
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Speaker 1: all right. That's interesting too. If he took another step

939
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Speaker 1: like he did this year, he would probably reach those

940
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Speaker 1: milestones that with those statistics sixty five percent to thirty

941
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Speaker 1: five hundred yards and the three to one touchdown interception,

942
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: he was through a stretch, a long stretch of the

943
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: season where it was like, what was it like fifteen

944
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: to two touchdowns to td touchdowns interceptions After the end,

945
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: after the New England game, the interceptions almost completely disappeared,

946
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: and he went through a stretch there where it was

947
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: it was really really evident that the message got through

948
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: on him. So I absolutely, I think that's another logical step.

949
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Speaker 1: I think those those numbers are attainable. I think that's

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Speaker 1: what he's got to be shooting for. And I'm not

951
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: saying I wouldn't like him to steal for five thousand yards.

952
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: I would, but I think as a consistent numbers, I

953
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: think he got to hope this guy can throw for

954
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Speaker 1: guysh you know, you'd like to see him go for

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00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 1: between two hundred twenty five and two undred and seventy

956
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: five yards a game and three to one T to

957
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: TD to interception ratio. And I think that's a you know,

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00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: that would lead to taking a lot of pressure off

959
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: a defense that you know, I don't know how much

960
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: better they could have played this year, you know, So

961
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: there's a there's a lot in that in those numbers.

962
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: And I think, thanks for call Brady, that was I

963
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: agree with you. I don't know, it's a it's a

964
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: tough question. Would you rather the Bills could have drafted

965
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson instead of Josh Allen. That's

966
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: a hard question, you know, does that would you which

967
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: one would you rather have? You got two v MVPs.

968
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: I think Josh is a perfect fit here and and

969
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: there's all that you can say. I look at malomes numbers.

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00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you like KFM? Sure you'd like to have him,

971
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: You wouldn't throw them away? Um, I don't know say

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00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: the same thing about Lamar Jackson. But I don't think

973
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: I would. I would want another quarterback for this team.

974
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Speaker 1: Would would Mahomes have been an MVP last year on

975
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: this six and ten two? Yeah? I mean yes, right,

976
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: it's a different offense, different players around in the offensive

977
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: line was horrific, you know what I mean? So you yeah,

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00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean it would be. It's a different scenario. And

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00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: Mahomes isn't the MVP this year, And you know, you

980
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: got yourself with why not? Everything was kind of intact

981
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: for him there in Kansas City. Lamar Jackson, certainly, it's

982
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: a great player and a truly singular gifted player. And

983
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: we had somebody who's on I can't remember who it was,

984
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: maybe as Will Brinson yesterday he said, you know, Lamar

985
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: Jackson's a unicorn. I mean he's a big, strong throw

986
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Speaker 1: of the football. He runs a four three, you know,

987
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: and he runs like a running back. So he's kind

988
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: of a unicorn. Um, you know how many teams wouldn't

989
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: love to have that guy? I get it, but I'm

990
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: telling you it's hard. You'd be hard pressed not to

991
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: be really happy with the guy they did pick Josh

992
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: by the way, two interceptions the final ten games, not

993
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: including the Jets game at the end he didn't And

994
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: how many tds was that? Because I was three to

995
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: one it was two interceptions. He certainly had was responsible

996
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: for more than We're more than six six t ds,

997
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: you know, right, So so he's got you're counting him up.

998
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: There's must be a bunch of them fifteen to two yeah, games,

999
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: that's eight to one, yeah, you know, or seven seven

1000
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: and a half to one touchdown innerations over touchdown interceptions

1001
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: over the last It's big. That's big. That's a big step.

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00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk with Great Coachell from ESPN NFL Matchup

1003
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Speaker 1: when we returned. We'll talk to him about Josh, will

1004
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: get his thoughts on this weekend's Divisional Round playoff games.

1005
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Speaker 1: Come on Back one Bills Live presented by Klada Health

1006
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio in Archer Park, Seneca Resorts in Casino.

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00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: Nothing comes Closet Radio Network Sports update from One Bills Live.

1008
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: It didn't take long for the Bills to replace Bill

1009
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: Tierlink as their defensive line coach. They announced this morning

1010
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: they've named Eric Washington as a new defensive line coach.

1011
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: He spent the last two seasons as the Carolina Panthers

1012
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Before that, he was Carolina's defensive line coach

1013
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: from twenty eleven through two seventeen, so he did coach

1014
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,479
Speaker 1: with Sean McDermott at Carolina. Washington began his coaching career

1015
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: with Texas A and M. He started in the NFL

1016
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: Chicago in two thousand and eight. Twelve years in the

1017
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: NFL as the defensive line coach. During the seven seasons

1018
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: to Carolina, the group led the NFL with two hundred

1019
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: forty four and a half sacks by defensive lineman. Eric

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00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: Washington is the brand new defensive line coach for the

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00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. He is fifty years old. The NFL getting

1022
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: set for the Division Around playoffs. It starts tomorrow at

1023
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: four thirty five with Minnesota at San Francisco. That's the

1024
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: first game that starts at four thirty five on NBC Tomorrow.

1025
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: Minnesota and San Francisco have met five times in the

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00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: in the postseason, the forty nine Ers have won four

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Speaker 1: of those five games. The late came tomorrow Tennessee at

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00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: Baltimore on CBS at eight fifteen and then on Sunday

1029
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Speaker 1: Houston in Kansas City at three oh five pm on CBS,

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Speaker 1: and then the NFC game Sea Adelaide, Green Bay at

1031
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: six forty pm on Sunday. That game is on Fock.

1032
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: Texans are gonna have a key piece of their secondary

1033
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: back on the field as they go up against Patrick

1034
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: Mahomes and the Chiefs in Sunday's Division A Round. Quarterback

1035
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: Jonathan Joseph, of missed the wild card win over the

1036
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: Bills with a hamstring injury, is good to go against

1037
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, according to a source close to the situation.

1038
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: Adam Feeling listeners questionable for the Minnesota Vikings divisional playoff

1039
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: game in San Francisco, one day after he got stitches

1040
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: on his left ankle following an injury at practice. This week,

1041
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: The NFL's chief Medical officer calls Carson wentz Here rowing

1042
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: for reporting his concussion during Philadelphia's playoff loss and disputed

1043
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: the notion that the league system failed the Eagles quarterback.

1044
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 1: The Eagles today parted ways with offense coordinator Might Grown

1045
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: wide receivers coach Carson Walch, according to head coach Doug Peterson,

1046
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: and the Sabers return home tomorrow afternoon to play Vancouver.

1047
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Speaker 1: There you go the update from One Bill's Live John

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Speaker 1: Murphy Steam Tasker, our number two of the show. It's Friday.

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Speaker 1: That means we talked with Greg Cosal, the executive producer

1050
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Speaker 1: analyst of NFL Matchup on ESPN. He joins us live

1051
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Speaker 1: on the line right now. Hello, Greg, how are you doing?

1052
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Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you, seem to you, Mrs Steve.

1053
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Speaker 1: How are you guys doing well? We're doing? How much

1054
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Speaker 1: better now? Fridays here? We had we were run a

1055
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Speaker 1: rough week. We could not have done the show on Sunday,

1056
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Speaker 1: had to, you know, the day after the game. We

1057
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Speaker 1: were a little banged up. But now we're back in

1058
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Speaker 1: the saddle. I think emotional, well, I think Steve. I

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Speaker 1: think at this point, Steve, we're all day to day,

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00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: aren't we. Yeah? Yeah, worked we would not be yeah, yeah,

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00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: we're on the injury list for sure. Before we move

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00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: much further. Great, we got to pass along the good

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00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: wishes from our guests. Last half hour, when Phil Sims

1064
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: joined us and talked a lot about his tenure on

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00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: your show, Yes Me and NFL matchup. He talked about

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00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: how great you are on that show and how much

1067
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: you enjoyed working with you back then. I guess how

1068
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: many years ago it was a while. I love Phil.

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00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite guys, and I haven't talked

1070
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: to him in a while. But now that you guys

1071
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: talk to him, I think I'll have a shoot him

1072
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: a text. And he's one of the best there is

1073
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: and he's really good. Yeah, you have some interesting things

1074
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: to say about Josh Allen, some mechanical things about Josh Allen,

1075
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: and I know you maybe share the opinion that Steve

1076
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: and I do that Josh Allen gets kind of a

1077
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: bad rap around the league and even among Bills fans.

1078
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes they see things that aren't there in Josh Allen's game.

1079
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: What do you see from Josh now after two years

1080
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Great, Well, let's put aside what people

1081
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: think and I'll tell you what I see. Number One,

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00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: I think that he improved pretty incrementally throughout the course

1083
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: of this season. You know, it's funny you mentioned the mechanics.

1084
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: I think that is something that absolutely needs to be

1085
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: worked on, because I think he's one of those guys

1086
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: that has such a power arm. He's a power thrower

1087
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: of the football and he's probably always been able to

1088
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: make throws just by turning it loose. And I think

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00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: when you see a thrower like this that he made

1090
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: it in the game last week, you see good mechanics.

1091
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: But too often he throws with his base his legs

1092
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: being too close together, and he sort of drops his

1093
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: arm angle, and that can often lead to some of

1094
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: the inaccuracies that he has. But when he stands tall

1095
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: in the pocket and steps into his throws, he throws

1096
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: the ball really well, and I think his accuracy definitely

1097
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: improved throughout the course of this season. He may be

1098
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: the kind of quarterback guys that always misses a few,

1099
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: and there are quarterbacks like that, and you can still

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00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: be a good player in that case. But I think

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00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: he does need to work on some lower body mechanics

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00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,479
Speaker 1: and that arm angle dropping a little too much, which

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00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: often causes the ball to sell. But for the most part,

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00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,959
Speaker 1: I think he improved. I mean this last week's game,

1105
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: everybody focuses on the wrong thing. To me, obviously was

1106
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: the play where he tried to lateral smart, of course not.

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00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: But you know, I think you could do that with

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00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: any quarterback. I mean I could talk about de Shaun

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00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: Watson in much the same way with his mechanics, and

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00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: obviously he made a special play that won the game.

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00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: But I think Josh Allen is right where he should

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00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 1: be after two years and a clearly ascending player. Yeah.

1113
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you too, not Josh was standing.

1114
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: But this the whole personality and the way that Buffalo

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00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: Bills are structured. What is the next thing for them,

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00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: either roster wise talent wise. From your perspective, what are

1117
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: they what tools are they missing to take another step? Well,

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00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: my guess is from an offensive standpoint, they would probably

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00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: look to add another real quality out to go along

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00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: with John Brown, who certainly has shown that he can

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00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: be and I always hate to use the term number

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00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: one or number two, but John Brown has shown that

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00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: he can be both a vertical dimension and an intermediate

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00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: dimension and be effective in that area. I think Dawson

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00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: Knox is also an ascending player at the tight end position.

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00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: And we're just scratching the surface of what he can

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00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: do in the pass game. So we know that Cole

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00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: Beasley is a very very good slot receiver, so I

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00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: think they'd probably look to really get better at the

1130
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: other outside receiver position. Clearly they were sort of searching

1131
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: for that throughout the season playing different people. We know

1132
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,959
Speaker 1: Duke Williams got a lot of snaps in the playoff game,

1133
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 1: but I think that's something they would absolutely be looking

1134
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: to do, is to find another receiver to go along

1135
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: with John Brown on the outside on the line. With

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00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: Greg CoSeal secutive producer analyst of NFL Matchup on ESPN,

1137
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: you can catch them tomorrow on ESPN four am, six

1138
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,479
Speaker 1: thirty am on ESPN, eight thirty am on ESPN two.

1139
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: He's also senior producer in NFL Films. Let's talk about

1140
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: some of this weekend's division around playoff games. If we can,

1141
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: Greg and start with Lamar Jackson and how much do

1142
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: you think the Baltimore Ravens use the same offense they

1143
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: did that led them to such a great regular season record.

1144
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: Why would they change? Right, they can get away with

1145
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: running their quarterback as much as they did, I would

1146
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: think in a playoff game, Well, it's it's not a

1147
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: manner of getting away with it. Guys. The bottom line

1148
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: is is their offense is philosophically structured around the quarterback

1149
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: as a runner, not as a distributor. They're the only

1150
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL like that. That's not going to change.

1151
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: That's the way they're foundationally built. Now. I know he

1152
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: threw thirty six touchdowns, and obviously he does throw the ball,

1153
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: but structurally they're built on him as a runner with

1154
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: what they do, and not as a passer a distributor.

1155
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: The areas in which they're very, very good, which makes

1156
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: it difficult, is they're incredibly creative with their blocking schemes,

1157
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: and they're very creative with how they get lead blockers

1158
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: out in front of Lamar Jackson. You know, keeping mind

1159
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: that eighty five to nine of his outside runs they're

1160
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: designed runs. They're not zone reads, they're designed runs. And

1161
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: the other area in which they're really good is the

1162
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: red zone. Jackson threw twenty four touchdown passes in the

1163
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: red zone, the most in the NFL, so they finished

1164
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: drives with scores touchdowns, and they're really good with their

1165
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 1: pass game concepts in the red zone, and that's really

1166
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: critical it's why they score a lot of points. Yeah,

1167
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: and what do you think about they're headed or sitting

1168
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: there at home waiting for the Tennessee Titans. Who and

1169
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: let's just play football one on one. I find the

1170
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. I want to have forty two minutes of

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00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: time of possession. I want to run for two hundred

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00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: and sixty five yards. I want the game to be

1173
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: over in about two hours and fifteen minutes. You know,

1174
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson will have about two series per half

1175
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: to get all of his offensive Wizard redne I love

1176
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: your thinking. Then I can go to bed early Saturday nights, right,

1177
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: I can have my milk and cookies early on Saturday

1178
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: night and go to bed. It's perfect. You know. Look,

1179
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: we know that no matter how much you shortened the game,

1180
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: and you know this, that the offense of the Ravens

1181
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: will still get the ball. So but clearly what Tennessee

1182
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: wants to do is hand the ball to Henry, try

1183
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: to eat some clock. They need to finish drives with touchdowns.

1184
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: But I still think in this game Tannehill will have

1185
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: to make some throw So it's how do they get

1186
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: to those throws? Do they do that? Off play action

1187
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: do they do that? They obviously don't want to be

1188
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: in third and long situations. What I'm fascinated by in

1189
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: this game, and I don't know the answer to this,

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00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: and I don't know if anybody does, is what Dean

1191
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: P's the decoordinated for Tennessee, who's been in this league

1192
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: a long time and has seen a lot of things.

1193
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, and I'm trying, I'm trying

1194
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: to go back in my memory banks. He may have

1195
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: been the DC for Baltimore the Super Bowl when they

1196
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: played San Francisco and Greg Roman was the you know,

1197
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: it was dealing with Kaepernick at that point, so he's

1198
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: seen some of these principles. Obviously it's been expanded, but

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00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think you're dealing with a different situation

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00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson, I think, and that offense it's truly

1201
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: built on him as a runner. So I think a

1202
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: lot of these principles may not be exactly the same.

1203
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: How much does Baltimore defense have to worry about Derrick

1204
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: Henry two touchdowns and one hundred eighty four yards on

1205
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: the ground against the Wigman, How did he do that

1206
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: against Patriots? Well, it's Funny you asked that question because

1207
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: I watched the tape. Okay, you know, when I watched

1208
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: these games on TV, you know, particularly the night games,

1209
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm just watching like a fan. I'm not sitting there

1210
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: taking notes or anything like that. I'm just watching the game.

1211
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: So when I came in and watched the tape, I

1212
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: was actually surprised to see that Belichick did not load

1213
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: the box. Obviously, there there were snaps in which they

1214
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: were eight in the box, but he did not load

1215
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: the box. He played a lot of snaps with Nickel

1216
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: Personel versus two tight ends. I kind of felt watching

1217
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: the tape, and only Bill Belichick knows this that he

1218
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: basically said to the Titans, if you want to give

1219
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: the ball to Derrick Henry a lot, please go ahead

1220
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: and give the ball to Derrick Henry. And you could

1221
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: argue it worked. I know everybody looks at the hundred

1222
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: eighty two yards, but they scored two offensive touchdowns. And

1223
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: I think if you go into a game saying they're

1224
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: gonna get two offensive touchdowns, you're gonna feel pretty good.

1225
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: So when you when you run the ball that much,

1226
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: the rest of your team has to be a big

1227
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: factor in the game because normally you don't score a

1228
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: ton of points. So it's a real interesting it's a

1229
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: fascinating part of this game to me. Yeah, yeah, And

1230
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: you're right, Dean Peas was the defensive coordinator in Super

1231
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: Bowl forty seven, I think in the Orleans game when

1232
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: the lights went out, that's correct, And Dean Peas was

1233
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator for Baltimore. Trying to him in Colin

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01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: Kaepernick and Greg Roman was that offensive coordinator with the

1235
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: creative run schemes and the read options and the and

1236
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: the RPOs and all of that. And so it's these

1237
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: two coordinators meeting again in this playoff atmosphere with a

1238
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: different cast of characters around the really interesting matchup. It's

1239
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: fascinating to me, and you know all, Like I said,

1240
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: I wish I had some brilliant ideas to what dmpas

1241
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: might do, but I own I'm so anxious to see

1242
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: it though, because like I said, this is a different

1243
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: offense than other NFL offenses. You can't just in my

1244
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: view anyway, and believe me, I'm not as smart as

1245
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: danps and I don't know what the plan is, but

1246
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't think you can just line up and play

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01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: the same way you play other offenses. Great Mosel joined

1248
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: the senior producer NFL Films executive producer analysts of NFL

1249
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: matchup on ESPN. The other game tomorrow, the early game tomorrow,

1250
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: actually Minnesota at San Francisco. The Niners defense, as good

1251
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: as they've been, they've had a little trouble stopping the run.

1252
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: Does Dalvin Cook pose a threat to them? Do you think,

1253
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: Greg Well? I think Dalvin Cook gets the ball. You

1254
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: know how well he does remains to be seen, Murph,

1255
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: But I think Minnesota's offense runs through Dalvin Cook. He

1256
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: sure looked like he had a little juice to him

1257
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: last week. Didn't he look like he had to jump

1258
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: in his step. I don't know if it's because he

1259
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: missed a couple of weeks, but he carried twenty eight times.

1260
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: They're an outside zone running team as their foundation. I

1261
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,479
Speaker 1: think their pass game works off of that. Although there's

1262
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: one matchup on the perimeter that I'm anxious to see.

1263
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: The right corner for the forty nine is Witherspoon. Got

1264
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: benched for the final drive in their final regular season

1265
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: game against Seattle, but he's backstarting and I think they

1266
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,479
Speaker 1: will go after him. They don't match up the forty

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01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: nine or so Witherspoon is the right corner. So you

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Speaker 1: can decide whether you want it to be digs or feeling,

1269
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: depending on how you line up formationally. But I think

1270
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: they will attack Witherspoon early in the game. Yeah, it's

1271
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see if And I know

1272
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: this is kind of an emotional question and it kind

1273
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: of comes down to what's between a guy's ears. Kirk Cousins,

1274
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: it seemed like a big emotional release last week after

1275
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: they won that game in New Orleans, and I have

1276
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: maintained this a lot, and I've heard other people say, no,

1277
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: they don't. I thought. I think Wildcard weekend is those

1278
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: weekends where you get great football games. We had two

1279
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: overtime games, all one score games, really really competitive football.

1280
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: I think this week, when you get to these teams

1281
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: who have earned a buy, is because they're very talented,

1282
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: very well coached and really playing well. And now they've

1283
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: got two weeks of playing against a team like in

1284
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: San Francisco, they're playing against a Minnesota team that is

1285
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: absolutely you gotta think they're spent. I mean, their tank

1286
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: might be a little bit empty, and I think these

1287
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: games may be a little bit lopsided over this week,

1288
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: and maybe not all of them, but certainly I think

1289
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: you'll probably see fewer one score games than you did

1290
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: in Wildcard weekend. Could happen, you know, But then you're

1291
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: also dealing with teams that are in experience, like the

1292
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, who are very good, but they're an

1293
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: experience playing in the playoffs, and you don't know how

1294
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: they're going to come out, you know. I think the

1295
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: forty nine ers or another team that's interesting in this

1296
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: particular matchup because they like to play with a fullback,

1297
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: so that means that the defense or the Viking stays base.

1298
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: But what struck me last week was in their nickel defense,

1299
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: they played Andrews and Dajo as their nickel slot corner

1300
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: because of injury, and I would think that might be

1301
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: an area that Kyle Shanahan might like to try to exploit,

1302
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: which means you'd have to put three wide receivers on

1303
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: the field. So we'll see, you know, these games, Steve,

1304
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: as you know, there's so many interesting match ups you've

1305
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: played in these games. There's so many variables, there's so

1306
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: many matchups and you don't know which one will turn

1307
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: out to be the one that ultimately decides the game. Yeah,

1308
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: because you've seen different guys on these teams. Usually you

1309
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: get a team that either barely makes in the playoffs

1310
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: or doesn't make to the playoffs because they don't have

1311
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: enough guys that win matchups. These teams have multiple players

1312
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: that can win, and that is fascinating because you can

1313
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: take one series here or there and make a difference

1314
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: in these games because of a you know, they an injury,

1315
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: a twisted ankle, A guy takes three plays off, it

1316
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: has to shake off a hit and he can't come

1317
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: back on the field. That's what these games hinge on.

1318
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: You're not counting now on a fifty one three game

1319
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: like when Buffalo beat Oakland, you know back in the day.

1320
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, we want a couple of matchups on that game.

1321
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: We want a couple Let's talk about the Sunday games

1322
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: for a minute. Great Houston and Kansas City. I don't

1323
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: know what to make of the Houston Texans. I do

1324
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: think the Bills would be a better matchup for Kansas City,

1325
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: but that's academic. Now, what can Deshaun Watson, dude, similar

1326
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: to what he did against Buffalo, he got off to

1327
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: a slow start against the Bills, but by the end

1328
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: he was dynamic. He was a playmaker. Can he do

1329
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: that against Kansas City? And that's become kind of his

1330
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: game murph in that he's been a little inconsistent over

1331
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: the last last month or so of the season, but

1332
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: he has playmaking ability, and you know that's a lot

1333
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: of these games, if they're close, they come down to that.

1334
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: So when he makes that play against you guys last week,

1335
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: you know, obviously they play that won the game. You know,

1336
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: people talk about that play and that's an iconic play.

1337
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: We'll be watching that for twenty years. But for the

1338
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: most part, there was an inconsistency to his game. What

1339
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: they need to try to do with him, in my view,

1340
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: is really try to get him in rhythm early, maybe

1341
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: Max protect a little bit, get him so we can

1342
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: hit that back foot and deliver the football because he

1343
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: tends to move around a little too much. Sometimes he

1344
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: creates his own sacks. But he has that special ability,

1345
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: and then it depends on the nature of a given game.

1346
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: Here's one throw. You know, obviously every big throw I

1347
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: think on a touchdown we lose him. Yeah, you're still there. Great,

1348
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 1: go ahead. We're losing him. Yeah, we're losing our talk

1349
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: to our it guys that can reconnect him, try to

1350
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: reconnect he's talking. Yeah, he's talking. And and we're seeing

1351
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: once again the uh the play where he spins out

1352
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: of the Milano sack and and and throws the Taiwan

1353
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: Jones And he's right. We saw it as a slow

1354
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: start by Deshaun Deshaun Watson, a little inconsistency throughout, and

1355
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: then at the end he had the chance because of

1356
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: his defense and because of the stellar play of the

1357
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: guys around him, he had a chance to make a

1358
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: play and win the game, and it got it to overtime.

1359
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: But then again too, yeah, he made enough plays coming

1360
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: down the fourth quarter of that game, score seventeen or

1361
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: actually nineteen UM unanswered points, and that was the difference

1362
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: in the game. And it's those stretches in these games

1363
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: are the playoffs, whether it's the you know Bill's Texans

1364
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: or Texans Chiefs, you know, Tennessee, Baltimore. Down the stretch

1365
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: is where these guys elevate. And that's why it's so

1366
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: enticing for teams, you know, not like the Bills, but

1367
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: you want a guy who's got that in the tank.

1368
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: You know, when you're trying to build a team, those

1369
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: guys are few and far between. How much you invest

1370
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: in him means you don't have enough guys to get

1371
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: you to that point. You know, that guy may be

1372
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: the playmaker of all time, but he may not be

1373
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: able the rest of the team may not be able

1374
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: to keep you in close games. I think Mike Vick

1375
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: was a guy who was like that for a long

1376
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: time in philadel in Atlanta, where he could make all

1377
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: these plays, but the team wasn't good enough around him

1378
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: to get him to a point where he could make

1379
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: a difference in those plays. And Greg, go ahead, you

1380
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: were talking about that Deshaun Watson being a little inconsistency

1381
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: but having enough playmaking ability at the end. Yeah, And

1382
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: I just kind of heard what you said there, Steve,

1383
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: and I think you're right. The key is to be

1384
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: in those close games because there's not a consistency to

1385
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: either Watson or the offense. And I think they'd like

1386
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball. I mean, when

1387
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 1: they played Kansas City Week six, if I'm not mistaken,

1388
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: Carlos Hyde had about twenty twenty nine carries in that game,

1389
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: and they won that game in Kansas City, so they're

1390
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 1: actually looking, i think, to be balanced, and they'd like

1391
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: to get Watson in rhythm, and I think they did

1392
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: that in the second half. I think that came down

1393
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: to the coaching staff saying, Hey, here's what we're gonna do.

1394
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna max protect, We're gonna let you hit your

1395
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 1: back foot and have the ball come out. Very hard

1396
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: to rely solely on these sort of random improvisational plays.

1397
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: If it's a close game and you can make one,

1398
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: that's great and we all talk about it. But you

1399
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: don't go into a game saying, hey, just make a

1400
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: few plays and that's the way it'll be. You have

1401
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: to prepare and plan for this. Yeah, creating something on

1402
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: the fly is not a plan. No, it's not a

1403
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: plan at all. Did I hear you say we're gonna

1404
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna be haunted by that play for twenty years

1405
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 1: or more, greg Or, I'm tired of than watching it

1406
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: twenty years. I didn't say you'd be haunted by it.

1407
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: I hope you won't be haunted by it. I hope

1408
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of victories, you know, coming up that

1409
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 1: that that play sort of gets put in the Dustpin.

1410
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: You know, I had almost forgotten it by today, and

1411
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: you brought it up again. One more game see Green Bay.

1412
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see this game. Excited to be honest,

1413
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: to watch DK Metcalf. I think he has a chance

1414
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: to break out and beat maybe the star of this

1415
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: game on Sunday. Well, it's funny. I did a piece

1416
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: on him in the matchup show for this weekend, and yeah,

1417
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: we studied him pretty hard. He's caught sixty five balls

1418
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: counting the playoff game, and thirty six of those sixty

1419
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: five receptions have come with him is what we call

1420
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 1: the boundary X receiver, where he's a single receiver to

1421
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: the short side of the field, and when you get him,

1422
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: particularly on the back side of let's say three receivers

1423
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: the backside of trips, he gets a lot of man coverage.

1424
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: He's a receiver that essentially runs vertical routes, crossers and slants.

1425
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: You want him on the move. That's kind of what

1426
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 1: you're looking for with DK Metcalf, and he's obviously a

1427
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: big man with great speed. Russell Wilson throws the deep ball, well,

1428
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: throws the back shoulder ball, well, he beats press coverage well,

1429
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: so if you press him, he can get off the

1430
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: line and run slants. He's really become a weapon for

1431
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: this team. Lockett has kind of faded a bit, you know,

1432
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: maybe he's still been injured, but Metcalf has become the

1433
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 1: big play guy. What else about that Seattle offense do

1434
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: you look out? I mean they now they've got Marshawn Lynch,

1435
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: they struggle with injuries to come down the stretch. Certainly

1436
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: more and more has fall into the onto the plate

1437
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: of Russell Wilson to make things happen. But give me

1438
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: a personality of what Seattle's offense is at this point,

1439
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: this late in the season. I still think, Steve, they

1440
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: want to run the ball. I don't think they want

1441
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: to go away from that. The question is can they

1442
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: run it? You know, obviously they want production, not just volume.

1443
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: Now you've heard Pete Carroll talk that Marshawn Lynch will

1444
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 1: be more a part of the game plan this week,

1445
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: because I think that's their identity, that's their foundation, that's

1446
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: who they want themselves to be. Now, obviously than the

1447
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: game dictates what you do. If you're not running it

1448
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: well and you're behind, then you obviously have to change

1449
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: what you're doing. But if it's a close game or

1450
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: if they're ahead, I believe you're going to see them

1451
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: stay with the run game. And finally, you know, talking

1452
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: about their opponents, Green Bay, there are no slouches in

1453
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: this game. Aaron Rodgers, some people think it's the best

1454
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: complete team he's ever been around. You know, offense and defense.

1455
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: What do you think of that great? Well, there are

1456
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: another team that wants to run it. I think they're

1457
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: a little week at wide receiver. I think they're Mantila

1458
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: Floor's background is the outside zone run game. I think

1459
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: what you'll see a lot in this game is they'll

1460
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: try to show some different looks to get to that.

1461
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: Because if you just line up and play against linebackers

1462
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: like Bobby Wagner and kJ Wright, who've pretty much seen

1463
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: everything you know, they'll recognize and read the run. So

1464
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: I think you have to give them some I candy,

1465
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: change up your looks. But Aaron Rodgers is you know,

1466
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,759
Speaker 1: he's not throwing to a great group of receivers. Davanta

1467
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: Adams is tremendous. He's a great route runner, but I

1468
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: think the other guys are somewhat limited, so they need

1469
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: to try to find some balance. Now, again, we could

1470
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: be looking at a game that's not high scoring, and

1471
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: when you get into those games, you get into those

1472
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 1: individual plays again, of which both Rogers and Russell Wilson

1473
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: are more than capable. Well, I hope we got good,

1474
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: great games. I know what's Steeves saying about the wild

1475
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 1: card games being better, But I think we have an

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: opportunity to get some good games. Or Greg, what do

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Speaker 1: you think, Well, they'll be compelling for sure, I mean,

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01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: we hope so anyway, I mean, all I care about

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01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: in these games, guys, is that they're compelling. Yeah, you know,

1480
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: you want to see them going to the fourth quarter.

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01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: You want to be on the edge of your seat.

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01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: You know. That's that's all I care about in this game.

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01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have a horse in the race here, guys,

1484
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 1: so I'm just hoping for good football. Unfortunately, we don't

1485
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: have a horse in it either, And that was such

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01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: a shame. I was so pulling for you guys. Oh

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01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: my gosh. All right, great, thanks very much. We'll talk

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01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: to you next week. Thank you, all right, guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks great. Cosaldi is senior producer at NFL Films. Executive

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01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: producer analysts for NFL Matchup on ESPN this weekend. All

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01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: their shows are Tomorrow four am six thirty am Tomorrow

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01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: morning on ESPN and then on ESPN two at eight

1493
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: thirty am. NFL Matchup on ESPN. You'll be getting up

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01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: for the four four am version. I think I just

1495
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: DVR that I'm a tech savvy. You saw as I

1496
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: was trying to get my laptop going it in first second.

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01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: I know how tech savvy are. How do you feel

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Speaker 1: about Josh Allen for a second year. Give us a call.

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01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: We'll get back to the phones. Get back to that

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Speaker 1: topic the conversation when we return. One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive from the Seneca Studio and Archid Park Down Murphy,

1504
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. It's weird not having a game this week's EVE.

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01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: I got to confess don't have a game to get

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01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: ready for having at a game all week. It's been

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01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: weird at night trying to what do we do now?

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01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: What can we watch now? I mean I've watched a

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01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: lot of MS NBC and a lot of a lot

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01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: of junk on TV watching bad movies because they usually

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01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: watch film of the Bill's opponents. I'm just whining. I'm okay,

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01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: I'll be okay. You know we've been here prior to

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01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: this week before. I just didn't I thought we did

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01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: one more game, Steve. I really just say this. I

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 1: watched the Sabers game last night. I didn't watch that.

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01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: I watched the Cleveland Kevin You're better off commit That

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01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 1: was a rough game, Lasson was it? I'm sorry game

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: as a rough game. I watched the Cleveland Cavaliers and

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01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: they won, so that was all right. Our Twitter poll today,

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: how do you feel about Josh Allen following his sophomore

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01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: season in the NFL. We got six hundred seventy five votes,

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: and what do you think? Fifty nine percent you're saying,

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01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: you know, he's better than I expected he would be,

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01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: thirty six percent say he's just what I expected, he

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01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: would be exactly what I thought he would be, and

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01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: five percent say he is worse than what I expected.

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01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: At this point, let's hear for him. You give us

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01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: a call eight oh three five fifty toll free one

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01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty give us

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01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: a call. We got lines up when we got tweet

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01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: sheets to read as well. I have a hypothetical question

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01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: to pose to you. Yes about because it's hard to

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01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: get your mind around this hypothetical and I know it's

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01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: kind of crazy to do this, but would you still

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01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 1: feel good about Josh if they were six and ten? Again? No, right,

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01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: it's not about it's so it's not really about what

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01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: he's done statistically as a quarterback. It's more about the

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01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: fact he's led the team and had helped him win.

1539
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 1: It's not so much about how he is as a

1540
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: quarterback for us to feel so good about Josh, because

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01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: if he had this exact same season and they had,

1542
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, and they were six and ten to ten

1543
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: and six, how optimistic would you be? The problem would

1544
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: be you wouldn't believe they could build a team around

1545
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: him good enough to win. And now you got to think,

1546
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: well they can. They ten games plus they should have

1547
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 1: won this playoff game. And there's none of these teams

1548
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: in the playoff here, even Baltimore, the Kansas City Chiefs,

1549
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: all of these teams. You would love to see the

1550
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: Bills play those teams. You feel like you can hold

1551
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: him to one score game and your guy can make

1552
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: the play. So you got to think, now, since they

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01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: were ten and six, the confidence that the franchise has

1554
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: to have, or the confidence in the franchise and ability

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01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,799
Speaker 1: to build a team around Josh no matter how he's playing,

1556
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: even though we think he's getting better, but he's good

1557
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: enough to build a team around. Here, you can win

1558
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: a championship. I mean, that's the real bottom line here.

1559
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: So if because of the the display of organizational whatever whatever,

1560
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing, the draft class, the defense,

1561
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: the running game, the pieces that they added to the offense,

1562
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: this is it's easy to see this team in your

1563
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 1: mind as being just not even a lot better, just

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01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: a little better, as being championship caliber. I mean, you

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01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: talk about a play here and there, and they got

1566
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: a home. They're the one seed, you know, and so

1567
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: it's easy to say, yeah, Josh is gonna be plenty

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01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: good enough because he's even getting better. You know. It's

1569
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:40,480
Speaker 1: and that's all because of he's shown enough at quarterback

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01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 1: that all of us, you know, most of us the

1571
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: people in the Twitter poll, believe you're building you can

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01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: build a championship around that guy. We've seen it were

1573
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: that close. And let me see if I'm reading you write,

1574
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: you're saying that Josh benefits from how good people are

1575
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: around him. Is that what you're saying? Oh, absolutely hit

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01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: that defense our analysis, But if their defense was twenty

1577
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 1: fifth in the league, again, that would impact our analysis

1578
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 1: of h Oh. Yeah, absolutely. If they were six and

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01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: ten with the exact same statistical thing, he'd say, kick

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01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: into the curb and he had the same If he

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01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: had the same statistical season he just did and they

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01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 1: and they weren't able and the other team scored a

1583
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: touchdown more game than the Bill's defense allowed, you'd say, well,

1584
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can win with him. Really,

1585
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a hypothetical. That's a hard

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01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: question to answer. Could he have the same numbers if

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01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,839
Speaker 1: they were six and ten? Could he have twenty touchdowns?

1588
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: Nine interceptions? Could he complete fifty nine percent of his

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01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: passes and they'd be six Think about if you if

1590
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: you said the defense either missed a couple play or

1591
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, allowed one extra touchdown drive during the course

1592
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: of a game, and they couldn't you know what I mean,

1593
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: they would have lost a ton of games. That they

1594
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: won because of their defense's ability to keep the other

1595
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: team off the scoreboard. And if that went away and

1596
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: Josh had the same games he did, you might be

1597
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: thinking about it differently. Maybe that's interesting. Here's a call

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01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: from Marie and Amherst. Hello Marie, you're on the air.

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01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: Hey guys, how you guys doing good? So I just

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01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: gotta put comment about the Josh Allen sophomore season. I

1601
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 1: think Josh is on the right path. Josh needs some

1602
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 1: help seriously, as far as another season, quarterback Andy Dalton

1603
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: would be perfect and they were to use them like

1604
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: they use take and take some hill down there, and

1605
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: he's more accurate. He could help him with the deep

1606
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: boss um pretty much. That's what. Well, he got to

1607
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 1: get some more bigger weapons too. But I mean, I'm

1608
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: glad they didn't break up the team, trade away the

1609
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: team or anything like that. But that's what I think.

1610
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: You know, get like an Andy Dalton, someone's season to

1611
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: come on in and help him out. So you really

1612
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: think it's it's up to Josh to get better, Like

1613
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, just guys in there in the quarterback room,

1614
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 1: like Matt Matt Barkley's not your guy. You think more

1615
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: of just some other voice in the room would help, right, Yeah,

1616
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: helped jot. You think it's coaching him up A little

1617
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: bit is all he really needs? Yeah? Okay, thanks, Let's

1618
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: go to Randy and Akron. Hello Randy, you're on the air.

1619
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: Hey are you doing add I just want to say

1620
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: you wanted to get cash hell in a little better?

1621
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: Get them too good wide receivers? What do you do

1622
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: with John Brown? Cole Beasley? Hello, Randy? Hello? I think Brandy? Hello,

1623
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: I think Randy. Randy up the phone, get him too

1624
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: good wide receivers. Drop the mic and I'll tell you this. Hello, Randy,

1625
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: are you there? Greg CoA Sell said that he said,

1626
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: do you get one? Maybe two? And I was like, why,

1627
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 1: interesting because I've never heard anybody say two? You know. Yeah. Well,

1628
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: I wasn't listening to that much as was when I

1629
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: heard Gregor Sell and I agree with this, And he said,

1630
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: I don't like to think about one number one receiver.

1631
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't like to think of that either. I know

1632
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: the kind of receiver I want the Bills to get.

1633
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to get a rookie. I wanted to draft

1634
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: a receiver. I don't care about free agent receivers. I

1635
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: want him to get a guy six two to six four,

1636
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: long arms, fast enough. I don't anticipate he'll be you know,

1637
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: a J Greene or Julio Jones or anybody like that,

1638
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: but I think he could be pretty good. I think

1639
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: he could be pretty good, and I'd like to see him.

1640
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: You can get a good receiver in the second round

1641
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: like DK Metcalf these days. That's the kind of guy

1642
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: I wish they had. I think they should look for

1643
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: that guy in the in the draft this year. I do.

1644
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: I think there's no question that's got to be on

1645
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: that side of the ball. That's one of the top,

1646
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: if not the thing they're looking for, either in the

1647
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: free agent market or and here's the thing too, Murph,

1648
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: they may sign a free agent like that and they

1649
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: may draft one two. Yeah, they're all there. Don't want him.

1650
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: They're to done a lot of money at a receiver.

1651
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: They're well, exactly, I think they'll They'll do it the

1652
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: way they've always done it. They're gonna get a guy

1653
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: that is like that, who has maybe unproven or there

1654
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: was a guy who is I read an article he's

1655
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs this year and his he

1656
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 1: had like four hundred and forty seven four touchdowns. But

1657
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,600
Speaker 1: he's a big time, big, big guy like that. His

1658
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: name is Demarius DeMarcus Robins Robinson, DeMarcus Robinson. He may

1659
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: be coming away from the Chiefs, and the Chiefs are

1660
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: you know, backlog at wide out, but here's a guy

1661
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: who's that kind of big time big wide receiver. Not

1662
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 1: really a guy that's on the front of our burner.

1663
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 1: He's not an AJ Green or Julio Jones or DeAndre

1664
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,520
Speaker 1: Hopkins kind of guy. But he's a guy that's exactly

1665
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: where the Bills seem to thrive in free agency, a

1666
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,879
Speaker 1: guy that another team is too good at that position

1667
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: and he got edged out because a free agency or

1668
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: his contract was up, and he comes to Buffalo, gets

1669
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: his first opportunity kind of the middle of the road.

1670
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 1: He'll get another contract like kind of like Cole Beasley

1671
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: and John Brown did somewhere in the seven to eight

1672
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 1: over million over three years. And he's that kind of guy.

1673
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: That's I think what you can expect. But I think also,

1674
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: you get into the second round of this draft, they're

1675
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: gonna pick another guy up because this is a different

1676
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 1: atmosphere in building now than it was last year. They're

1677
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 1: all about competing, and there are some guys here who

1678
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: started and contributed to this team who may not be

1679
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: able to get back on the field again next year

1680
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 1: because they're trying to upgrade and everything's up for grabs again.

1681
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: You know some offensive line, you know offensive lineman, just

1682
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: tie and Secky come back and try it again. Probably

1683
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: not that means that's up for grabs with Leadrian Waddle,

1684
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: he may resign with the team. Some of these other

1685
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Bates who's been on the squad all season. These

1686
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: guys are around and they're trying to get on the field,

1687
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: And you can bet in free agency in the draft

1688
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: that Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott are going to try

1689
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: and get better at even those positions. Us as fans

1690
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: don't even realize they are even thinking about making a

1691
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: change and they're trying to get better. So I think

1692
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: not only will they sign free agents at the wide

1693
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: receiver spot who fit the thing where you're talking about,

1694
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: they'll also probably draft one as well. Yeah, they need

1695
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: a draft. I don't care about a wide receiver, a

1696
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: free agent wide receiver. I don't want to spend any

1697
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: extra money on a free agent wide receiver. I want

1698
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: to draft one, develop one, see a young guy get

1699
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: better with the Bills. Let's get through the tweet sheet

1700
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers

1701
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. How do you feel about Josh

1702
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: Allen following his second season with the Bills? From Thomas,

1703
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: He says, I feel better than expected. It seemed like

1704
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: Josh was better at recognizing coverages and he did well

1705
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 1: from the pocket. Yes, he's still learning, needs to work

1706
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: on timing and footwork. More than that, he needs to

1707
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: stay within the system. No hero ball should make big

1708
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: improvements next year, big improvements. I think we'll all be

1709
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: disappointed if there's not a further development from Josh Allen

1710
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah. Agree, I agree. Jack also says this

1711
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 1: He was about where I expected him to be, still

1712
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: had the playmaker mentality we saw as a rookie, made

1713
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: steady improvements in his accuracy and completion percentage. He still

1714
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: has work to do, but I think he'll take another

1715
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,480
Speaker 1: step in year three. So everybody's kind of on that bandwagon,

1716
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 1: and I agree we've seen too much from him to

1717
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:51,640
Speaker 1: think there's not more there. We've what we've seen of

1718
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: him in his deficiencies. We know too that we have

1719
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: every reason to expect, given his past to recent history

1720
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: in the last two years two seasons, not to continue

1721
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 1: to see him improve in those areas. I think one

1722
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: of the things that happens, and it happened this year

1723
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: for a minute, we talked about it earlier. There's gonna

1724
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: be those things that you know. It didn't translate into

1725
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: the winning Maybe it did. I mean, he was ten

1726
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: and six, but it didn't translate into his statistics other

1727
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: than the fact that this somewhere along the line he

1728
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: learned a lesson and he was like eight interceptions or

1729
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: eight tds, ten interceptions or something, and then all of

1730
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: a sudden he went on a fifteen td two interception run.

1731
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: That kind of thing is what I'm talking about, where

1732
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: he makes a change in improvement in some aspect of

1733
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: his game, and man, it seems to stick. That was

1734
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: big to me. He was turning it over far too

1735
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: much in the first month of the season, and then

1736
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: the last ten games he went fifteen and two touchdowns

1737
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: the interceptions. That's big. Now, certainly it didn't turn into

1738
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 1: a three hundred yard passing game every week and it

1739
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: didn't turn into the thirty three points a game scored,

1740
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: But that in and of itself is tangible or tangible

1741
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 1: numbers that are real. He didn't turn it over. That

1742
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: helps a team, particularly the one the way this one

1743
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 1: was constructed. So I think there's more of those type

1744
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: of lessons that will come out and maybe we'll see

1745
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: statistics that reflect it, and maybe we won't. But I

1746
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: know this, the coaching staff believes, and they see it

1747
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: in every day and they'll notice it and they'll keep

1748
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: coaching him up on it. So I still think there's

1749
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: improvements like that to be had by Josh Allen. And

1750
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: whether you can see him in a fifteen to two

1751
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 1: run touchdown interception or not, I think in other ways

1752
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: or hopefully ripple effects to the scoreboard and to the

1753
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 1: one loss record that we will see him. Yep, we

1754
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 1: got a break here. We got Lorenzo Alexander coming up

1755
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 1: at two. But we have time to talk with you

1756
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 1: on the phone lines if you'd like eight three fifty

1757
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: and toll free one eight five fifty two five fifty.

1758
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Josh Allen after a second

1759
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: season with the Bills. Let us know on one Bill's

1760
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalada Health from the Senecast studio. This

1761
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Coming up after two o'clock, We'll

1762
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 1: be live with Lorenzo Alexander. So make sure you stick

1763
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: around for that hey um word from Cleveland that they

1764
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: are bringing. They brought in Josh McDaniels today. Patriots offensive

1765
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: coordinator Ben Volin, who covers the Patriots right for Boston Globe.

1766
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: Senior NFL writer Ben Volin says the Browns planned to

1767
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: wrap up their process by tonight or tomorrow. It appears

1768
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 1: to be down to McDaniels, Kevin Stefanski, offensive coordinator for

1769
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, and Brian Dable for the Bills. Three

1770
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: of them left and the brown as one of them

1771
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 1: will be the Brown's head coach. All three of them

1772
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators Josh McDaniels of the Patriots, Kevin Stefanski of

1773
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: the Vikings, and Brian Dabled of the Bills. I didn't

1774
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: talk to him today. We saw Brian Dable at a

1775
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 1: morning meeting here. He seemed fine, seemed everything was normal,

1776
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: So we don't know. I do think the fact that

1777
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 1: McDaniels apparently brought his wife with him for his interview

1778
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: in Cleveland indicates something, indicates that something's up there. Steve Well,

1779
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: nobody tomorrow, they think, Yeah, And like we said earlier

1780
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 1: in the show, there's no hurry for the Browns. Nobody

1781
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: else is in the market for any of these guys there,

1782
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, and Stefanski's still in the playoffs anyway. Yeah,

1783
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 1: and they can take their sweet time and pick the

1784
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: guy they liked. There's still and these aren't the only

1785
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: three guys obviously that they have interviewed, but obviously they've

1786
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: they've narrowed it down. And I don't know they completely

1787
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: botched it the last hire because they I mean, they

1788
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 1: just hired from within for a guy who because he

1789
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback, I mean ostensibly is what we think. They

1790
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: hired Freddie Kitchens because Baker liked him. You know. I

1791
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: don't think they'll make that mistake again, and I think

1792
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 1: they want to get the right I know, all three

1793
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 1: of these guys are quality guys, and there's a there's

1794
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: another half dozen, ten, twelve, twenty guys out there on

1795
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: the street that are also highly qualified. So I think

1796
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 1: the Browns and we had Joe Thomason earlier in the week.

1797
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: He's right. The Browns are in a good spot now.

1798
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: You can say what you want about Joe Judge and

1799
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: Matt Rule and Ron Rivera and the other coaches that

1800
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: have been hired already. There's a lot of really quality

1801
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 1: guys out there, and the Browns can take their pick

1802
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: of any of them if they can entice them to

1803
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: take the job. The Bills don't lose Brian Dable, little

1804
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: that would just it would set them back, right. They'd

1805
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 1: have to start over to Josh Josh all On, the

1806
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: guy we've spent all day talking about, Well, we'd have

1807
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 1: to do another show how to sell him so fit

1808
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. But I think Brian Dable has started

1809
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: something here that you'd like to see at least another

1810
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: year of it, if not a couple more years. And

1811
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't root against him. If he gets an opportunity

1812
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 1: to be a head coach, he'd probably have to take it.

1813
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,839
Speaker 1: But he's said to be one of the three finalists

1814
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 1: for the job in Cleveland. Now I hope that's um well,

1815
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 1: I hope it works out for the best no matter

1816
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 1: what happens. Me too, Okay, the best for us, not

1817
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: the Browns, the best for us. I don't. Well, let's

1818
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 1: take a call. Let's go to a Tyler and Ham. Hello, Tyler,

1819
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: you're on the air with this go ahead. Hey guys,

1820
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Um, I would just I

1821
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,799
Speaker 1: just wonder do you think this will affect Josh Allen's

1822
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: progress in in next season if if, if day Bill

1823
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 1: goes to Cleveland. Yes, I do, I do. I think

1824
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 1: it will. I think it'll. It'll require some adjustment on

1825
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: everybody's part, especially Josh Allen. Wouldn't anybody else, I think,

1826
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 1: don't you, Brian Tyler, don't you think it will? Yeah? Yeah,

1827
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: I definitely, I definitely think it will. And uh, like

1828
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: you said earlier, it'd be really sad to see him go.

1829
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call, Okay, thank you Tyler. And yeah,

1830
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that Brian day Ball is the

1831
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 1: only guy that can coach Josh Allen. I mean, there,

1832
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, there's other brilliant guys out there, But at

1833
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 1: this point, I don't I don't know who's gonna be,

1834
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm they could find a great guy,

1835
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 1: a guy that is great and can and can take

1836
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 1: Josh to the next level as well as Brian day

1837
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: Ball can. But One of the reasons Josh has been successful,

1838
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: in my opinion, in his second year now going into

1839
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 1: it is because he's had some continuity and the voice

1840
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 1: in the room coaching him up and talking to him

1841
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: and getting him through the hard spots and developing a

1842
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 1: relationship with him, and there's a trust there. So that

1843
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 1: makes things go a lot smoother. And when things go smoother,

1844
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 1: you're more productive. And that's what you're really asking out

1845
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: of your starting quarterback in his second year and going

1846
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 1: into his third year. And that raises questions. Yep, your

1847
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator gets switched, they say the Browns. Reports are

1848
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: that the Browns planning to wrap up the process today.

1849
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: Hope to have a higher by tonight or tomorrow. We'll see.

1850
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. When we come back. Lorenzo Alexander

1851
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 1: joined us the Lowdown Final Lowdown of twenty nineteen. We'll

1852
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: talk with Lorenzo when we return. One Bill's Live presented

1853
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: by Collada Health from the Seneca Studio in Chard Park.

1854
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio Bufalo Bill's Radio Network Sports

1855
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 1: Update update from One Bill's Drive. In addition to the

1856
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo coaching staff today, they need at a replacement to

1857
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 1: make a defensive line coach, and they made it today.

1858
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: Eric Washington joins the Bill spent the last two seasons

1859
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 1: as Carolina Panthers defensive coordinator. He worked as a Carolina

1860
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 1: defensive line coach from twenty eleven through two seventeen. Began

1861
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: his coaching career in nineteen eighty seven with Texas A

1862
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 1: and M, and his NFL coaching career in Chicago in

1863
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Twelve years in the NFL, most

1864
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: recently the Panthers defensive coordinator. Before that defensive line coach,

1865
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 1: including in their Super Bowl year when he worked under

1866
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott as the defensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers.

1867
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: Eric Washington joins the Bills as a new defensive line coach.

1868
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: NFL getting set for four more playoff games this weekend.

1869
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: The Divisional Playoffs starts Tomorrow at four thirty five with

1870
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:45,799
Speaker 1: Minnesota at San Francisco, followed by Tennessee at Baltimore on Sunday,

1871
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 1: Houston and Kansas City at three oh five, followed by

1872
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 1: Seattle at Green Bay. Texans cornerback Jonathan Joseph Good to

1873
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: go against the Chiefs. NFL Networks James Palmer reports that Joseph,

1874
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: who missed the wild card win over the Bills last

1875
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: Saturday with a hamstring injury, is good to go. He's

1876
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 1: been listed as limited in practice all week. Adam feeling

1877
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:07,600
Speaker 1: questionable for the Minnesota Vikings divisional playoff game in San Francisco,

1878
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 1: one day after getting stitches on his left ankle following

1879
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 1: an injury at practice. Cut his ankle at practice, That's

1880
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 1: why he was limited onto the injury report. He did

1881
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: not practice yesterday. Philadelphia Eagles parting ways with a couple

1882
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 1: of coaches. Offensive coordinator Mike grow and wide receivers coach

1883
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 1: Carson Walt, both replaced by the Philadelphia Eagles. Two early

1884
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: candidates have emerged for their coordinator post, former Colts head

1885
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 1: coach Jim Caldwell and former Redskins offensive coordinator Kevin O'Connell.

1886
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: And the Buffalo Savers lost on the road last night

1887
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 1: at five one loss to the Saint Louis Blues. Jack

1888
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: Eichel scored Buffalo's only goal. He's got a point street

1889
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,639
Speaker 1: now at five game. Savers back at it tomorrow when

1890
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Speaker 1: they played the Vancouver Canucks at one o'clock at Keybank Center,

1891
01:33:49,800 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: and that's the update from one Bill's Drive. It's the Lowdown.

1892
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: It's Friday afternoon at two, The Lowdown with Lorenzo Alexander,

1893
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,719
Speaker 1: brought to you by Hutches Redefining City Dining, John Murphy,

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01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: Steve Dansker, and the Man Lorenzo Alexander. Good to have

1895
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 1: you here. It's kind of sad, all right, I gotta

1896
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 1: ask turn into paperwork, are you? Yeah, I've time me.

1897
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 1: I sent the letter obviously to Shine and Brandon and

1898
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,560
Speaker 1: over to the NFL pa um to kind of solidify

1899
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 1: my decision um and so yes, it's it's a done deal.

1900
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: There's no turning back at this point unless, like I

1901
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 1: told Michael Hid, unless they get a first round by

1902
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: the home playoff game. I said, I'll come back out

1903
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 1: if y'all need me for that and make a run

1904
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 1: for the super Bowl. But uh, exactly. Yeah, I've made

1905
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 1: my mind up a while ago, and it's time to

1906
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: turn the page and looking forward to it. Good. We've

1907
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 1: never I've never asked you why now. I mean you could,

1908
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 1: let's face it, the way you played this year, as

1909
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: much as you played, you could come back and play

1910
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 1: another Yea, I could play. I mean it's and it's

1911
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 1: always you get into that that run. Always one more,

1912
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 1: you can do one more. Yeah, I can keep doing

1913
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: one more. And it's kind of funny. I was actually

1914
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: listening to your your podcast with m E. Wood that

1915
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 1: you guys did. You kind of talked about some of

1916
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 1: your things that you talked about and I could relate,

1917
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 1: and for me, it's I mean the working out in

1918
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 1: the off season. I mean, obviously I think it's even

1919
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 1: anticified a little bit during the season, but just trying

1920
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 1: to get ready for a game every week. It takes

1921
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 1: so much time and energy just to get ready for

1922
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 1: the game. I'm not even talking about practice and watching film,

1923
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 1: but like just healing up, mobs, stretch, massage, dry needling, ice,

1924
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 1: coat up. I mean, all this just to feel okay.

1925
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: It's not even like I'm feeling great going out there,

1926
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: and so that that played a huge part in me

1927
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 1: wanting to retire as well. It's not just and here's

1928
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 1: the thing too, you're in this mental you're trying to

1929
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 1: get better. You can't get better when you're just trying

1930
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: to get back to where you start, you know what

1931
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, there's yeah, there's no room, no time

1932
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 1: to get in better. Yeah, so that with that, I

1933
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 1: you know, and getting just sick and tired of being

1934
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 1: sore and just moving around. I kind of, you know,

1935
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: expressed it to my wife and then but the number

1936
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,640
Speaker 1: one reason was really having an opportunity to spend a

1937
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 1: lot of time with my family and really enjoy the

1938
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 1: things that we had to sacrifice for him that we

1939
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 1: earned these last couple of years or really my entire career.

1940
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: Be able to travel, spend time me, be able to

1941
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 1: go out and coach my son's game. U not miss

1942
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: things that you ordinary with miss because I either had

1943
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 1: to train or I had to go to OTAs or

1944
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. And you know, my kids are

1945
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: I have an older daughter's twenty four side of the house,

1946
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 1: but I mean I'm in the prime of my kids eleven,

1947
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 1: nine and five, and I want to be there. They

1948
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: have great talents and ability, and I want to be

1949
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 1: a part of that cultivation period and kind of take

1950
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: over with my wife. All right, So here's the thing.

1951
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: You probably didn't know this, but once you retire, you're

1952
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,720
Speaker 1: now you're alumni, right or a legend as they call

1953
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: it hum So here it is, this is your legends

1954
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: community back the most stuff I've gotten since I've been

1955
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 1: here from this show and I'm leaving, it's like you're

1956
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 1: gone by now. The stuff we've been saving up. Let

1957
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 1: me just tell you that that little backpack there the

1958
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 1: legends that blew the whole budget too, So that guy

1959
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 1: has not got anything unless he sticks for four years

1960
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 1: and let's save up money to get it. So that

1961
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 1: came from that came from the Bill's legend, you know,

1962
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,719
Speaker 1: from Jeremy and those guys. Yeah, that's full of legends

1963
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: gear that you can wear when you come back now

1964
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 1: because you're an alumni right now, I'll definitely be back,

1965
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that. That too, is hard still

1966
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 1: being a part of the organization in some type of capacity.

1967
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 1: Go ahead with Lorenzo Alexander. We're talking about his retirement.

1968
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 1: He's officially retired now from the NFL. I want to

1969
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: take you back to four years, just about four years,

1970
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 1: a couple of months from four years, and what were

1971
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 1: your thoughts on coming to Buffalo from where you had

1972
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,679
Speaker 1: been all over the NFL and coming to Buffalo under

1973
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan and just it was a brand new thing

1974
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 1: for I think I've shared this before, but I didn't

1975
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 1: know much about Buffalo, and I was like, I'm not

1976
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 1: going to go up there. I mean, it was towards

1977
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: the end of my career. Um, I knew I was

1978
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 1: going to be I wasn't thinking about retiring doing that time,

1979
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:55,640
Speaker 1: and it was like Buffalo. All I knew about it

1980
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 1: was that it was cold, um, and that the organization

1981
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 1: hadn't been hadn't been good and quite some time. And

1982
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,640
Speaker 1: so thankfully it was my only offer. And you know,

1983
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 1: I was kind of forced to come up here, and

1984
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that God had his hand

1985
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 1: on it and was able to come up here and

1986
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,560
Speaker 1: do some special things, meet some great people, and have

1987
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 1: some memories that will last me from a lifetime, but

1988
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,879
Speaker 1: more importantly, some relationships that will last me for a lifetime,

1989
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, after I'm done playing the game, obviously, and

1990
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 1: you stand here now this four years later, and you

1991
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 1: look back and see what had transpired in your four

1992
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 1: years here, right, how unbelievable a journey has In the

1993
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 1: last four years of a long and illustrious career. You

1994
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 1: tacked like four years on and those four years packed

1995
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 1: in so much, so much, right, Yeah, I mean almost

1996
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 1: more than probably the first eleven years of my career.

1997
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it's been so special coming

1998
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 1: up here and a lot of that. Obviously, I had

1999
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 1: a great year with Rex, but even more important, I

2000
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: think once Sean came in here, the relationships that we

2001
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 1: were able to build with teammates and the type of

2002
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:55,600
Speaker 1: personnelit and the type of people that we brought in

2003
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 1: this building made it even better. And then the community

2004
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 1: speaks for itself. This is probably the most close knit

2005
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: fan base that I've been a part of too, where

2006
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 1: they're more like family. I mean, they support us and

2007
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 1: all the things that we do off the field, and

2008
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 1: has been really a cool experience to be a part

2009
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,799
Speaker 1: of this community. Did you feel that about the community

2010
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 1: in that first year or were you mostly just getting

2011
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 1: football down that first year here? No, I thought that

2012
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 1: in the first year. I mean, because I was going

2013
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:20,560
Speaker 1: on in the community, I didn't do so much with

2014
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:24,759
Speaker 1: my foundation. But obviously the Bills Community Service Department is awesome,

2015
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 1: you know Preston, Meghan, Ryan, Gretchen all Michelle, all those

2016
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: people that what they do over there was awesome, And

2017
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 1: so I got my feet went and got out in

2018
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 1: the community then, and you can see how passionate and

2019
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 1: how big of a heart people have for each other

2020
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 1: in this Buffalo community. I said this earlier in the week,

2021
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 1: and I think I kind of reiterated. It's not just

2022
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: that the Bills fan base, you know, loves the Bills,

2023
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: and they do, and they all kind of have some

2024
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 1: connection to Western New York mostly, right, have some connections

2025
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: Western New York. But they also kind of have a

2026
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 1: an affection for each other, right because they know how

2027
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:01,680
Speaker 1: long it was between playoff and and how different our

2028
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 1: team in our city and our region is. So it's

2029
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: not just that they all the Bills fans love the Bills.

2030
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 1: They all the Bills fans kind of have this affection

2031
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 1: for each other, right, right, And that is a little

2032
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 1: bit of a different aspect that I think the players appreciate. Yeah,

2033
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 1: most definitely. Like I said, it's a tight knick group.

2034
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 1: They support each other. I mean, even like the sisters

2035
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,600
Speaker 1: that I've that I've gotten to know, um Mary and

2036
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: Patty that and the relationship that they have together and

2037
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 1: seeing the community come around them, or a guy like

2038
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 1: Dale Reid and all the stuff that he does in

2039
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 1: this community for everybody else, and those just you know,

2040
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 1: two examples of people that really love serving each other

2041
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 1: and this has been cool to watch and see. Oh,

2042
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 1: there's a ton of examples. The Andy Dalton incident two

2043
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, yeah, and the receiver and I came

2044
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 1: in think of the receiver's name who caught the pass

2045
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 1: and he got he got a contribution. And the guy

2046
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: who was who's been hammering on Buffalo of coleman O Baltimore,

2047
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 1: even he's you know, even that even the Bills fans

2048
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 1: kind of rally around and take great pride in going

2049
01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: beyond the borders of the field to affect. Yeah, for

2050
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 1: the good of people. I think it's been That's a

2051
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 1: really nice aspect of what's happened and over the course

2052
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 1: of Sean McDermott Brandon being in your tenure here in Buffalo. Yeah,

2053
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 1: it's been awesome to be a part of it. Did

2054
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 1: you see this stuff on the Bill's website and social media?

2055
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: The video pieces, Oh ye did excellent job. I actually

2056
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: had to go over to the video department and say

2057
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: thank you not only for that video, but they've done

2058
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: a great job as far as just being supportive and

2059
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 1: whatever I decided to do is finding somebody to film

2060
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 1: it coming out, you know, going out of the way

2061
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: on top of all the other stuff that they have

2062
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,640
Speaker 1: on their plate. And it was a great video that

2063
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 1: did a great job of piecing it together. And um,

2064
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,560
Speaker 1: I know it was very emotional and I got a

2065
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 1: lot of attention, a lot of lights, a lot of retweets,

2066
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of vis Well, I take a quick

2067
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 1: look at that, and said Lorenzo says, good bye. Piece

2068
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 1: available at Bill's dot com and on Bill's social media platforms.

2069
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 1: Check this out. It's really good. You never know, you

2070
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 1: know what God hasn't stored as far as the future.

2071
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: But obviously we've planned for this to be my last year.

2072
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 1: Obviously this will be my last home game being to

2073
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 1: play for these fans. This is this is my fourth

2074
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 1: year here. So I was you it was going into

2075
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 1: my twelfth season. You know, I camped my two practice

2076
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 1: squad years. Even though the NFL doesn't that first year

2077
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: come in. It was kind of a magical year for me.

2078
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: I was found healthy and starting for the first time

2079
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 1: in several years, and so I was able to have

2080
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:17,560
Speaker 1: fever and half sacks and from there the rest is

2081
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 1: kind of history. You have to make a decision, you know,

2082
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm somebody that has a principle of family first, and

2083
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 1: at some point your family has to come first. You know.

2084
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 1: The ultimate decision came down to do I want to

2085
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 1: continue to be selfish because I lived my dream. I've

2086
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 1: secured our financial future, So why would I be coming back,

2087
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, versus being to spend time with my wife, travel,

2088
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 1: enjoy some of the things that we that we've created together,

2089
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:47,560
Speaker 1: obviously coached my kids, and then be able to do

2090
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 1: it at a level to where I'm not out there

2091
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 1: limping around and gimpy because I decided to play in

2092
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: two or three years and you know, maybe suffer something

2093
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 1: catastrophic or just continue that we're and tearing my body.

2094
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: And so it's been a real space to kind of

2095
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 1: finish up my career in a city and a place

2096
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: that has offered so much, especially to my family. Round

2097
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 1: Alexanders says goodbye is the video piece on Buffalo bills

2098
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 1: that common the social media platforms, and part of that

2099
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 1: piece too is is your genuine surprise and delight at

2100
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 1: having your eleven year old daughter has always seen the anthem.

2101
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 1: That was a perfect way to end it. It was

2102
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: the coolest thing ever, and they kept with a secret

2103
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 1: since I think June, my wife asked about doing it,

2104
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 1: and so she's done a great job, you know, going

2105
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 1: down to Wall studios practicing for it. To be able

2106
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 1: to go out there and perform the way she did

2107
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 1: in front of you know, fifty sixty thousand people, you know,

2108
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: with the echo and all the stuff that works against

2109
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 1: you trying to say the national anthem in the stadium

2110
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 1: setting and performing the way she did was a very

2111
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,639
Speaker 1: proud moment. And so it's cool. And that's I think

2112
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: that makes you more more excited about life than anything

2113
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 1: I've ever accomplished. Just being able to watch your kids

2114
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 1: perform and grow up and do great things as well.

2115
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: It says something too and they we've seen it before,

2116
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: but that it's continues to be part of the characteristics

2117
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 1: of the organization that you came and trying to help

2118
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 1: build here in the last three years with with Sean,

2119
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 1: is that you know when you have contributed and you

2120
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 1: have done things and gone above and beyond, not just

2121
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: on the field in the locker room with the young players,

2122
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 1: and but it's also in the community. With Walter Peyton

2123
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 1: Man of the Year for so many times that you've

2124
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 1: been nominated for it, they making a point to say

2125
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 1: thank you right while you're still in the uniform, you

2126
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, you don't get that everywhere.

2127
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 1: You don't get that everywhere, and they made it, and

2128
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 1: certainly you got a break by the game didn't mean

2129
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 1: anything and you can sit down. They could take you

2130
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 1: off the field in a ceremony away and give your

2131
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 1: daughter a chance and you bring your family out. So

2132
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:40,599
Speaker 1: that was a plus. But they've shown the pension once again.

2133
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 1: It's kind of a Buffalo thing to make a special

2134
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:44,839
Speaker 1: point to have give everybody a chance to say goodbydy

2135
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 1: and that for me as a former player, and they

2136
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 1: did it for me too, and it was awesome. Yeah, yeah,

2137
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 1: and it sticks with you, right yeah, and you definitely don't.

2138
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 1: I definitely appreciate it. It's not something I just took

2139
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 1: for granted, something they just threw together or did because

2140
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 1: I understand that you don't get this everywhere, and so

2141
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 1: for the organization to really to show their love, because

2142
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: oftentimes in this business you just feel like onto the

2143
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 1: next one, the next one. I don't take to make

2144
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 1: the energy to the efforts. Hey, did you as you

2145
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:15,600
Speaker 1: look back on your four years here with Buffalo, do

2146
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 1: you have a favorite game? Favorite a couple of weeks

2147
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 1: favorite so many. I mean obviously breaking the drought and

2148
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 1: achieving that was really cool. Yeah, that was special. Um,

2149
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 1: game wise, I mean to pop out of my mind

2150
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 1: as soon as you ask me that the Ravens game

2151
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 1: or Ravens the Rams game. Um in LA my first

2152
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 1: year with Rex, I had uh three sacks, could have

2153
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:38,919
Speaker 1: had a fourth one, but it turned into an interception

2154
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 1: with Nikel Roby. And then my game last year versus

2155
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: the Houston Texas, I think I had a second and

2156
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:47,560
Speaker 1: a half and then in a pick. Yeah. That so

2157
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 1: those are probably like two of them the games to

2158
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of just pop out of pop out when you

2159
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 1: ask me. As far as performance wise, Um, yeah, So

2160
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 1: it's just been a cool And then all the teammates

2161
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 1: and stuff that I've got a chance to meet and

2162
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: guys that have a chance to mentor uh talked about

2163
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 1: baptizing people. That's something that you don't you don't do

2164
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 1: on every organization either. So Lynn and uh, the spiritual

2165
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 1: community that he's created on this team and getting under

2166
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,560
Speaker 1: guys to understand the big perspective of life and not

2167
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 1: get wrapped up in this game. And it's much more

2168
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 1: to life about it so to be a part of that, um,

2169
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 1: that culture change as well. It's really been cool. Teammates

2170
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, you know, uh, teammates, a couple of

2171
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 1: their spouses, um, you know, and so coaches and uh

2172
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 1: between last year and this year, and it's really been

2173
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 1: cool to be a part of that that impact in

2174
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 1: their lives. I gotta tell you, I think back to

2175
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 1: the time when I when I retired and I stayed here.

2176
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 1: Now you you're you've you've got plans to move. But um,

2177
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 1: so I gotta ask you, like when I for the

2178
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: first like I don't know, eight ten months I was

2179
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 1: out of the league, I ate a whopper every day. Well,

2180
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be quite like you because, like I said,

2181
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 1: I listened to the e Wood. I'm I'm gonna work out.

2182
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna train because I used to be a big dude,

2183
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 1: and I think the motivation is a little bit different.

2184
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 1: I was a big dude. I was three hundred plus pounds,

2185
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 1: right and I and I don't want to get close

2186
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 1: to that. And I like food. I like eating. So

2187
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 1: this past week I've been hitting up every all my

2188
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: favorite spot. Yeah, now I really caring and I probably

2189
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: can I'm probably about to. I feel like I'm two

2190
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 1: sixty right now, sitting here right. I've just been going

2191
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 1: in so but my body, my mife is like, man,

2192
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? You're gassy? I said, I've been

2193
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:20,719
Speaker 1: eating bad. I've been eating bad, and my body's telling

2194
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: me to stop. So I got one more night. We're

2195
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 1: going out to Chase see Trevor Noah with a couple

2196
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 1: of coaches or a couple of friends and eat down

2197
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,600
Speaker 1: at Cantina Loco. Um. And so this is gonna be

2198
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:33,680
Speaker 1: my last night is slurgeon. I gotta I gotta get

2199
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 1: back because I feel bad just doing the way I've

2200
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 1: been doing my body. By the way, if you have

2201
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 1: a comment question for Lorenzo, we got a few minutes

2202
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 1: slept with them. When the phone lines are open at

2203
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 1: eight oh three fifty and two three one eight eight

2204
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two fifty, want to ask you about

2205
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: your future. In the immediate future, you will be at

2206
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:51,800
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and I'm sure hoping to win the

2207
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man of the Year award, right you gotta yeah,

2208
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 1: I got a good chance. Normally they give it to

2209
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 1: guys that have been around the league for a while

2210
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 1: and have showed consistency over their career, and so you know,

2211
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: I have a good good shot. I've been up for

2212
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,480
Speaker 1: a couple of times now this is my fifth opportunity.

2213
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 1: But you look around the league, we have so many

2214
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 1: great men. You know, obviously Kyle Rudolph what he's done

2215
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 1: up in Minnesota. Think about Malcolm Jenkins, what he's done

2216
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 1: in Feeling and some of the social justice initiatives that

2217
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 1: he's kind of spearheaded. Richard Sherman have got really gotten

2218
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 1: to know him, and he's doing a lot of great

2219
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 1: work and STEM and stuff out in the Bay Area.

2220
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 1: So we have a lot of great guys, veteran guys

2221
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 1: that have been around the league for a while that

2222
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: have shown great consistent in the community. So obviously I

2223
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 1: would love to win it because it brings additional resources

2224
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 1: to this area in Oakland and definitely helps you as

2225
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 1: you transition as far as with your foundation. But whoever

2226
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 1: gets it is definitely it will be a huge oni

2227
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 1: for you. There's just a day or two left in

2228
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 1: the charity challenge too, right the use the hashtag right,

2229
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 1: the online right. Yeah, And so I appreciate Bill's MafA

2230
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,719
Speaker 1: obviously going above and beyond. They've been tweeting like hacking

2231
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 1: that's all I see in my Twitter feed. And so

2232
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 1: my mom, Yeah, my mom is on it. We got

2233
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 1: a couple of other members of the fan base that

2234
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 1: have done an ex job as well as far as uh,

2235
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 1: you know, just boosting the notoriety and the visibility of

2236
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: the challenge. Yeah. So it's and so we also it's

2237
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 1: last season of the year, you know, the disappointing last

2238
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 1: Saturday night. I'm gonna ask you, but I'm gonna I

2239
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 1: don't even want to so, but we do want we do,

2240
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 1: we do still want to do the Lowdown. Yeah, the

2241
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 1: Lowdown now is offseason retirement loawdown. Right, Yeah, it's a

2242
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 1: little bit different this week, right, um and so um

2243
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 1: lowdown Number one is just pack pack the house up

2244
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 1: and so literally in furguratively as far as just pick

2245
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 1: picking up all the stuff, all the stuff that we've

2246
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 1: came over the four years that we're gonna take back

2247
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,719
Speaker 1: some stuff, we've donated, some stuff we're leaving here because

2248
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 1: one of the coach is going to take over our

2249
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 1: leaves or leaving furniture. But then also um, giving closure

2250
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 1: to my kids. So we're gonna do like a goodbye party,

2251
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 1: not that it's saying goodbye, but not seeing people as often.

2252
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 1: So let them hang out with people that they may

2253
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 1: not go to the school or that they don't haven't

2254
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 1: seen as much as they would like. Um. And then

2255
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 1: for me also obviously going around saying goodbye as to

2256
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 1: all the people in the building, UM, and just letting

2257
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 1: know how much I appreciate him as well as the fans.

2258
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:06,640
Speaker 1: But it's not a goodbye because I'll be back and

2259
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:08,679
Speaker 1: be around. But this kind of going through that whole

2260
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 1: process of kind of getting everything tied up around here

2261
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,640
Speaker 1: and the loose ends Mrs I've spent I don't know,

2262
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: three days in then Mr Machine that's doing that you know,

2263
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 1: body check and making sure nothing popped up. I didn't

2264
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 1: have anything. And also for my um line of duty

2265
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 1: and workers comp all that stuff that you had to

2266
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 1: prepare for, so really been tightening all that stuff up

2267
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 1: on all I would I told you this out there,

2268
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 1: I'd rather get hit with sticks, packed the house up. Yeah,

2269
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 1: it is so dreadful. And then you realize it's how

2270
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:39,760
Speaker 1: much crap you have and it's too much, and it

2271
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 1: gets and then you got to figure out how to

2272
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 1: ship it. That's expensive, and so yeah, it's it's a

2273
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 1: head to spend all that money. Right, five years and

2274
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,600
Speaker 1: your attic out in Arizona, Right, and you're moving to

2275
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 1: Arizona where you played for a couple of years. Right, Yeah,

2276
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: we played it for a couple of years, really enjoyed it.

2277
01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 1: Um it's a great spot. Obviously, the weather's awesome. Nine

2278
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 1: months out of the year. We have a great um.

2279
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 1: I would say almost like an artificial locker room because

2280
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:06,800
Speaker 1: it's a melting pot or destination where for a lot

2281
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 1: of former players. A lot of guys that I've played

2282
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 1: with lived there, and so you have that natural relationship.

2283
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:12,639
Speaker 1: We can go hang out with guys, relate to guys

2284
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: because they know what you went through and so get

2285
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of that because that's one of the

2286
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 1: biggest things you meant when you're done. And then it's

2287
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 1: a good meeting from My wife is from Utah, I'm

2288
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 1: from California, kind of in the middle, and the cost

2289
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 1: of living isn't crazy like some of these other places

2290
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 1: that we're thinking about living. They mentioned, we want to

2291
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 1: talk about your long term future. Walter Payton Man in

2292
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 1: the year coming up and moving is in the short term,

2293
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 1: long term, what do you want to what do you

2294
01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:36,680
Speaker 1: want to be when you grow up? I have a

2295
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 1: lot of options, And this is kind of goes until

2296
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 1: the second point of having those important conversations, just talking

2297
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 1: with as you transition, you know, you're trying to find

2298
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 1: that new purpose, that new motivation in your life. Obviously,

2299
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 1: nothing's ever want to come close to football or give

2300
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 1: you that same type of excitement. But what else can

2301
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 1: I dive into and get better at and feel like

2302
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm making the world better every single day? And so

2303
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 1: there's various avenues for me to do that. Obviously I

2304
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 1: want to get into a little bit of broadcasting. I

2305
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: had some foundation UM initiatives that I want to do

2306
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 1: in Arizona and as well as here in Oakland still

2307
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 1: and so just trying to figure that out. But getting

2308
01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:13,559
Speaker 1: with people that know me well, talking to them, where

2309
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 1: do you see me at? Where do you see my growth?

2310
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: Where can I grow at? UM? It's definitely going to

2311
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:19,560
Speaker 1: help me. And then also just spending time with the

2312
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 1: family and the kids UM and also having conversations with

2313
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 1: my wife. It's far what does our household look like

2314
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: now that I'm I'm in here and I don't have

2315
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:30,640
Speaker 1: a job now that you yeah, you know what what

2316
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 1: does that look like? What are the expectations? So you

2317
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 1: can probably negate some of the problems that you have

2318
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: that you transition just because you didn't communicate. So it's

2319
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 1: having some of those conversations. It's interesting too because I

2320
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: noticed this when and we laugh about you know, I

2321
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 1: don't work out anymore. And one of the reasons I

2322
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 1: don't is because I'm not competing. And I always felt

2323
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 1: like and probably like you and your offseason, you really

2324
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 1: still felt like you were competing. You had you had

2325
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 1: to get ready to go, you had to get ready

2326
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 1: to be in shape, you had to get ready to

2327
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, push somebody against their women, pull them down,

2328
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 1: and so it's difficult when you, yeah, you're not competing. Yeah, right,

2329
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 1: So it's having a reason to get out of bed

2330
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 1: in the morning. Sounds simple, but it's not. Yeah, and

2331
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 1: that's and that's why you have to deal with as

2332
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,800
Speaker 1: a player. Yeah. Yeah, And I've been listening to all

2333
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 1: those because his is called after what is it called

2334
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 1: what's this podcast? You know, What's Next? It's called What's Next.

2335
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 1: So he's dealing with everybody that's transitioned in the league.

2336
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:25,679
Speaker 1: And so just kind of listening to some of the podcasts,

2337
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,600
Speaker 1: some of the the roadblocks that guys have dealt with,

2338
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of really helped me. Um and you say that,

2339
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 1: so like trying to even trying to create some artificial competition, right,

2340
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 1: So one of my things is, and I know it's

2341
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 1: not gonna right now, realism't matter. But as they get older,

2342
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 1: is being able to compete with my sons going out

2343
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 1: in the backyard and playing hoop or whatever it is.

2344
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 1: I want to be able to dominate them as long

2345
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 1: as I can, you know, because been looking to take

2346
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 1: dad over, you know. And so that's that's some of

2347
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 1: my natural things. So just building some of those things.

2348
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 1: It's coming, it's coming close. I mean, if you've seen

2349
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 1: Mason run around out there, it's not far off. He's nine,

2350
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 1: but what five you see it on the horizon. That's

2351
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 1: when you take off the competition right then and there.

2352
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,920
Speaker 1: It ceases to be a thing before they ever get close.

2353
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Otherwise you really do have a hard time getting out

2354
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 1: of bed. Call here for you, Tom and Buffalo on

2355
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 1: the line. Tom, go ahead, Hey guys, great show. Thanks

2356
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 1: uh he Lorenzo, just just two words to say about

2357
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 1: you class act that thank you. I'm just hoping that

2358
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 1: everything in your future endeavors just works out for you

2359
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 1: and just everything works out. Appreciate that. Appreciate you. Got

2360
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 1: a tweet two a couple of tweets to send it

2361
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 1: in their best wishes, one from Tom Mullin, who says,

2362
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 1: if you could possibly pass this out, I want to

2363
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 1: thank Lorenzo for its attention to the south Park High

2364
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 1: School football team, of which I played back when I

2365
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 1: attended south Park. Thanks and best of luck in your

2366
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 1: next life. That's a special place yard. Yeah it is.

2367
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 1: And it's not like I'm going away, right So I

2368
01:54:58,120 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 1: have a great relationship with him the land who's done

2369
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 1: great over there for years and so um even this

2370
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 1: summer is one of their standout guys. That's a young

2371
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:06,080
Speaker 1: guy trying to figure out, like Mark Want is going

2372
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 1: to come out to Arizona. He's gonna train, we're gonna

2373
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 1: visit a su and this get him aclimated to you know,

2374
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 1: what does it mean if I want to play college ball?

2375
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 1: And so I told Tim, ay anything you need or

2376
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 1: any if you ever find another kid that's that has

2377
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 1: great potential but has had some some issues at home

2378
01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 1: or just doesn't have the resources, just let me know

2379
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 1: and we'll try to do things like that. So I'm

2380
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 1: gonna continue these relationships. You can't build them and they're

2381
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 1: just up, they're off, they're gone. We've sometimes and for

2382
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 1: a guy off your start, We my family did the

2383
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 1: same thing as well. We'll have a kid come live

2384
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 1: with us for a minute. Yeah, because they just get

2385
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:42,200
Speaker 1: to feel for what it to be like, you know,

2386
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 1: or either either an exchange students or somebody's just you know,

2387
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 1: it ain't working for him in their present situation and

2388
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:51,560
Speaker 1: they need a place to flop for a while, to

2389
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 1: get their feet under them or for whatever. And we've

2390
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,520
Speaker 1: done that a couple of times. It's really rewarding because

2391
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 1: it gives you a chance to mentor somebody away from

2392
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 1: between the lines of the football gas. It's important encourage

2393
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people to do that if they get

2394
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 1: a chance, take just reach out and right help somebody out.

2395
01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 1: Like that's really rewarding. Yeah, and you know it's a

2396
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 1: little bit more intensive because then they get to get

2397
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:13,760
Speaker 1: into your environment versus going to talk to him for

2398
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:16,240
Speaker 1: an hour. Now they with you. You know, they've seen it,

2399
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 1: they've seen the good, the bad, and ugly, and what

2400
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 1: it takes to achieve success in their lives. One more

2401
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 1: call to take it is Jeff and Lancaster. Hi, Jeff,

2402
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Hey, how you doing, Lorenzo,

2403
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing great yourself? Good man? Good? Hey. I just

2404
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:33,040
Speaker 1: want to call and thank you for everything you've done

2405
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 1: on the community. I'm gonna build season ticket holder for years.

2406
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 1: If I did drag me down to the old rock

2407
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 1: pile in sixty seven and they've been a fan ever since.

2408
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:46,480
Speaker 1: And I just want to thank you for everything you've

2409
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 1: done here in the community and on the seals. And hey,

2410
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 1: enjoy your retirement to it and with your family, because

2411
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 1: that's what's important. Man, Right, Yeah, you're right about that.

2412
01:56:57,640 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for your calling. Hey, um, just

2413
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 1: to if you reflect back, Lauren, So fifteen years in

2414
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 1: the league, you came in undrafted, you spent a couple

2415
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 1: of years on the practice squad. The odds were against

2416
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 1: you back then. Oh yeah, they were stacked against me.

2417
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 1: You've changed how many different positions? Five different positions? Who've

2418
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 1: changed your body mass, your kind, you know, the way

2419
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 1: your body looked, and here you are fifteen years later,

2420
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 1: stepping the side and leaving when you want it, which

2421
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 1: is not many guys get to leave like this. It's

2422
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:27,800
Speaker 1: pretty impressive what you've done in fifteen years. Yeah, it's

2423
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 1: a very unique situation. And I've just been blessed with

2424
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: m really just great people. I mean, that's what it

2425
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 1: all comes back to when you sit back and I

2426
01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 1: really think about it. I've had great coaches and people

2427
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 1: to see things in me that I didn't see in

2428
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 1: myself and take out the time to whether it's teaching

2429
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 1: me a technique, give me a little tip pointment in

2430
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 1: the right direction, you know, grab snatched me up. You know,

2431
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 1: I've had people at different stages of my life really

2432
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 1: helped me achieve fifteen years and so, you know, and

2433
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:56,160
Speaker 1: it didn't start once I got to the league. It was,

2434
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, back when I was young, you know, stilling,

2435
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 1: my mom and my uncle really sat foundation and so

2436
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 1: with so many people. And I think that's why I'm

2437
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 1: so passionate about giving back, because I could see it

2438
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 1: in my own life, you know, the impact that it

2439
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 1: had let me. Let me just say this, as a

2440
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:12,720
Speaker 1: former guy, not very many guys get a chance to

2441
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 1: walk away willingly, and so many guys, particularly when I

2442
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 1: came into the league back in the day. You know,

2443
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 1: you had guys, a lot of guy old guys you

2444
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 1: talked to. They were kind of bitter. And they had

2445
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 1: great careers and they did all this stuff, and they were,

2446
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, successful and all that, both financially and whatever.

2447
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 1: But they were always kind of bitter. And the only

2448
01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 1: way and the reason they were all bitter is because

2449
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:33,840
Speaker 1: of the way it ended, either by injury or they

2450
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:35,760
Speaker 1: got cut, or they didn't get a chance to retire.

2451
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 1: They should have had one more year or then. And

2452
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 1: let me just applaud you and say congratulations on walking

2453
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 1: away on your own terms. And I know you too

2454
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 1: this and I probably could have squeezed another year, right,

2455
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 1: but you know what, I'll tell you this, You'll never

2456
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 1: regret it. And I applaud you for putting your family

2457
01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 1: first and realizing the day there's nothing more to prove,

2458
01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 1: and and I wish you all the best I could.

2459
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't be proud of of you. Think you've been

2460
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 1: an asset to the team in the community, and you're

2461
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: everything that the NFL should be about. And I'm really

2462
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:08,960
Speaker 1: I think the Bills Mafia and all the Bills fans

2463
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 1: everywhere really feel proud that you were part of their

2464
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:13,680
Speaker 1: heritage and part of their team. So congratulations. I appreciate

2465
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 1: that Steve was trying to get me to crying here,

2466
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 1: but it's not going to happen. I'm trying to do it,

2467
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 1: but I was breaking myself up too. Yeah, I want

2468
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 1: to see him cryed beer commercial alone, Lorenzo Alexander, it's hiring.

2469
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 1: Thanks appreciate your Oh yeah, most definitely runs of Alexander

2470
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 1: where the final load down Steve and I coming back

2471
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 1: one Bill's Lide presented by Kalada Health from the Seneca Studio.

2472
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:54,720
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Well that was something. Steve

2473
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:58,000
Speaker 1: almost crying, Oh my gosh, I did not almost. I

2474
01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:01,480
Speaker 1: think it's very serious though. It's a big deal, a

2475
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 1: big deal. I got to say, there's not there has

2476
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 1: not been a Bills player, and I you know, I've

2477
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 1: been around too long, but there's not been a Bills

2478
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:12,280
Speaker 1: player who has impressed me off as often as Lorenzo Alexander.

2479
02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 1: I didn't even get to what part of what I

2480
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:16,280
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to him about was. It's not just

2481
02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:20,160
Speaker 1: the community work and the charitable work. He's a smart guy.

2482
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:23,360
Speaker 1: He does a lot of stuff for social justice and

2483
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:27,120
Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive. Um. During the kaepernicknieldown thing a couple

2484
02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 1: of years ago, Lorenzo was the leader in turning that

2485
02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:32,839
Speaker 1: into a positive force for the Bills and for Buffalo,

2486
02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:34,960
Speaker 1: so that all of a sudden, they're raising money. They

2487
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 1: do it every week now for home games. They give

2488
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, they collect money from the players and give

2489
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 1: it to a local charity. And that was Lorenzo. He

2490
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:44,280
Speaker 1: did that. A lot of that, not alone, but a

2491
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:48,920
Speaker 1: lot of it he did alone. And uh just isn't

2492
02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:50,920
Speaker 1: just you know, going and showing up and doing stuff

2493
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:55,080
Speaker 1: for kids. It was a commitment to being uh, to

2494
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 1: social justice. For lack of a better turn, commitment to

2495
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 1: being a listen. The NFL is a huge force, not

2496
02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:06,920
Speaker 1: just in the media landscape and the sports landscape of

2497
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 1: our country, but everybody pays attention to it and and

2498
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:12,920
Speaker 1: for that reason, it gives these guys a big voice

2499
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:17,200
Speaker 1: and a big platform. And Lorenzo always had his focus,

2500
02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:20,040
Speaker 1: has always had his focus outside of football in the

2501
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:22,640
Speaker 1: bigger world around him, not only his family, but his

2502
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:27,240
Speaker 1: communities and the cities he played in that benefited from him.

2503
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:31,040
Speaker 1: And it's I've said this too. I was talking about

2504
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:33,160
Speaker 1: just yesterday, when all these new head coaches are hired.

2505
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 1: You know, they stand up there and they look all

2506
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 1: impressive and they kind of announced these platitudes. Lorenzo Alexander's

2507
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:40,160
Speaker 1: one of those guys. When he stood up in the

2508
02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:45,040
Speaker 1: locker rooms, there were a lot of really tough, smart

2509
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:47,320
Speaker 1: people in that room who wanted to hear what he

2510
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:50,160
Speaker 1: had to say and who would take it to heart

2511
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:53,520
Speaker 1: and listen to it. And it's hard to earn that

2512
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:56,760
Speaker 1: amount of respect in a room that's that difficult to command,

2513
02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:58,920
Speaker 1: and Lorenzo did it. And he did it not only

2514
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:00,800
Speaker 1: on the Buffalo Bills and last four years, but also

2515
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:03,640
Speaker 1: through Arizona Cardinals, the Washington Redskins, and the other teams

2516
02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:06,600
Speaker 1: that he played for throughout his career. Just nick outstanding

2517
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:09,040
Speaker 1: individual and like I said just a minute ago, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's really what the NFL should be and

2519
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:15,040
Speaker 1: is all about, and he's the best example of it.

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02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:19,320
Speaker 1: You know, he will be a you'll be valuable to

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02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:21,760
Speaker 1: the Players Association in a year or two when they

2522
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 1: sit down, or you know, in a month or two

2523
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:26,280
Speaker 1: maybe if they sit down and start to negotiate a

2524
02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:28,640
Speaker 1: new CBA because the guy has given it thought and

2525
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 1: he has the player's interests in mind, and his background

2526
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 1: makes him valuable to His background is an undrafted rookie

2527
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 1: coming into the league, a guy who spent a couple

2528
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:39,200
Speaker 1: of years on a practice squad, who had to hustle

2529
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:41,720
Speaker 1: and scrap for everything he got, had to change positions

2530
02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. He'd be a really

2531
02:02:44,440 --> 02:02:46,280
Speaker 1: good guy to have in the room when they start

2532
02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 1: talking about a new CBA, and I'm sure he will be.

2533
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:51,120
Speaker 1: He's on the executive committee. Anyway, we'll miss him too.

2534
02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:53,680
Speaker 1: He's pretty good on our show too over the years,

2535
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:56,520
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander. We wish him our best. How do you

2536
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 1: feel about Josh Allen following his second season? That's our

2537
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:01,280
Speaker 1: topic of the day. Give us a call. The lines

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Speaker 1: are open eight oh three five fifty toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We got

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02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:09,600
Speaker 1: a call on the line from Tony in Depew. Tony,

2541
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:15,960
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Go ahead, hello, Tony, Yes, yes,

2542
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:23,200
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Tony. Sorry, Tony, we can't wait, Tony. Thanks, Yeah,

2543
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Tony. You got something to say?

2544
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 1: Is we get some you get some fly uh flee

2545
02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:33,040
Speaker 1: flicker running backs. If the line offensive line can over

2546
02:03:33,160 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 1: the whole, they solve them right away. Why don't you

2547
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:42,640
Speaker 1: get a power running back, a big, strong power running back. Okay,

2548
02:03:42,760 --> 02:03:47,200
Speaker 1: thanks for calling. I have no response to that. I

2549
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:50,080
Speaker 1: just whatever. I don't know. I kind of like the

2550
02:03:50,120 --> 02:03:53,960
Speaker 1: philosophy they're using right now. It's I'm kind of really

2551
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:55,800
Speaker 1: not ready to change all out. You have some new

2552
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:58,120
Speaker 1: uh you have a new tweetchee, because I don't. I

2553
02:03:58,360 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 1: have one or two left on the TI we had,

2554
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:03,560
Speaker 1: and we just brought you by your Carrigan Moving Systems,

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02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:06,160
Speaker 1: the official moving company of the Buffalo Bills. What he

2556
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:08,600
Speaker 1: got there? Just as expected, he said. This is from Brian.

2557
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:10,520
Speaker 1: This is what he thinks. How he feels about Josh

2558
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:12,960
Speaker 1: Allen following his second season. He says, it just as expected.

2559
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:16,160
Speaker 1: I was an eyewitness at Saint John Fisher last summer.

2560
02:04:16,240 --> 02:04:19,080
Speaker 1: Showed me a super impressive Josh who benned Fred and

2561
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:23,840
Speaker 1: benefited from his offseason training immensely, taking the average fan

2562
02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:27,680
Speaker 1: by surprise. He advanced a ton, although he had regressions

2563
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:32,160
Speaker 1: and setbacks. Another winner with Palmer cast at Camp day

2564
02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:35,320
Speaker 1: Ball and lookout all of that stuff in the mix.

2565
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:38,960
Speaker 1: I there's a lot in this too, be particularly given

2566
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:42,840
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, now we're hearing that Josh

2567
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:45,040
Speaker 1: McDaniels is in the running and Brian Dable is in

2568
02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:49,080
Speaker 1: the running, and Stefanski is in the running as the

2569
02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:53,520
Speaker 1: head coach of the Browns. How that Brian Dable's situation

2570
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:56,880
Speaker 1: and all that and how that works out says a

2571
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:58,480
Speaker 1: lot about what's going to happen with Josh in the

2572
02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:00,720
Speaker 1: off season, if he if he is going to have

2573
02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:05,920
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator. Yeah, that opened This opens up

2574
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:09,160
Speaker 1: a real can of possibilities. And I know there's always

2575
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:10,920
Speaker 1: people out there there gonna be Yeah, finally we got

2576
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 1: a different offensive coordinator. I know I'm not one of

2577
02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:15,520
Speaker 1: those people. I like Brian Dable. I like the I

2578
02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 1: like what he did with Josh. I like the progress

2579
02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:21,120
Speaker 1: that Josh has made under under him. It's undeniable. I

2580
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:22,920
Speaker 1: don't want to mess with that. I think it's going

2581
02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:29,200
Speaker 1: to continue if they If this does happen, it takes

2582
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:32,000
Speaker 1: us down a road that really maybe for all of us,

2583
02:05:32,440 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 1: Murph who've watched this team builds slowly through the this

2584
02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 1: may be the first I don't know what he calls

2585
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:42,840
Speaker 1: not setback, setback, maybe where something they've they've lost somebody

2586
02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:44,760
Speaker 1: that you know, they didn't want to get or they

2587
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 1: lost a coordinator, right, I mean, I think this will

2588
02:05:47,240 --> 02:05:49,080
Speaker 1: be a first time where their plan all of a

2589
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:52,760
Speaker 1: sudden got derailed by something other than their own, you know,

2590
02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:55,880
Speaker 1: their own mistakes or their own you know, a loss

2591
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 1: here or loss there, a mistake here, a mistake there.

2592
02:05:57,880 --> 02:05:59,800
Speaker 1: But this is where the plan goes sideways if they

2593
02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:02,400
Speaker 1: can't keep hanging on to their coaches. Yeah, and I

2594
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:04,880
Speaker 1: and I they're gonna have to have a plan for now. Certainly,

2595
02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:09,760
Speaker 1: knowing what I know about Sean McDermott, they've got a

2596
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:14,200
Speaker 1: list of offensive coordinators they'll reach out to. But certainly

2597
02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't know who's it gonna be. You know, that's

2598
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:21,120
Speaker 1: a real question, that's yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

2599
02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:22,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was gonna be talking about this today.

2600
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how you got there? How'd you get there? Well?

2601
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:29,120
Speaker 1: Talking about day ball and all the things that are

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02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 1: mixed in with Josh doing well and the training camp

2603
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:34,280
Speaker 1: last year, Dayball's mixed in the new the new toys.

2604
02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:36,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a training camp, the new receivers, the

2605
02:06:36,280 --> 02:06:38,840
Speaker 1: new weapons are gonna bring in, and how that's gonna

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02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:42,360
Speaker 1: change if it's a new offensive coordinator. That's how I

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02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:47,480
Speaker 1: got there. Um okay, I think Eric Washington is the

2608
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:50,720
Speaker 1: new defensive line coach for the Buffalo Bills. Hired today,

2609
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 1: comes over from Carolina Panthers, where he's been since two

2610
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:57,960
Speaker 1: thousand eleven. He was defensive line coach there from two

2611
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:01,040
Speaker 1: thousand and eleven through two thousands seventeen, which is what's

2612
02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 1: seven years, yes, seven years in the last two years

2613
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:09,520
Speaker 1: as the offense or defensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers.

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02:07:09,880 --> 02:07:12,000
Speaker 1: On the face of it, Steve, that's pretty good hire

2615
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:14,440
Speaker 1: for the Bills, right, isn't it. It seems as though

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02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:17,200
Speaker 1: certainly he'll share the philosophy of Sean McDermott. They were

2617
02:07:17,200 --> 02:07:20,640
Speaker 1: together for ten years or nine or so years when

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02:07:20,720 --> 02:07:24,560
Speaker 1: Sean was at Carolina, worked for Sean as a coordinator,

2619
02:07:24,600 --> 02:07:28,760
Speaker 1: then elevated that spot that Sean occupied in Carolina, and

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02:07:28,840 --> 02:07:31,680
Speaker 1: he was there for these last two years. Certainly their

2621
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:34,440
Speaker 1: success wasn't as good under Eric Washington as it was

2622
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:37,640
Speaker 1: under Sean McDermott, but the philosophy will still be there.

2623
02:07:38,160 --> 02:07:41,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I like to hire. It seemed

2624
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:43,720
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. I know that there's always

2625
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 1: and I said this earlier in the show, I know

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02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:46,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people's in eye now, more Carolina

2627
02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:50,240
Speaker 1: people up here. You know what, though, that's kind of

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02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:52,400
Speaker 1: the way that you need guys that buy into your

2629
02:07:52,440 --> 02:07:57,640
Speaker 1: philosophy and know you, and it helps handle the staff

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02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:00,560
Speaker 1: because you have those relationships. It helps things go smoothly,

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02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:04,040
Speaker 1: and whatever transition there is to be made, it will

2632
02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:06,560
Speaker 1: go more smoothly because there's already relationship in place. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's great. I'm you could. I have no

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02:08:11,240 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 1: idea whether it's plus or minds, but obviously, as credentials

2635
02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:17,600
Speaker 1: are where we want them to be. His resume indicates

2636
02:08:17,680 --> 02:08:20,000
Speaker 1: that if they needed in some point in the future,

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02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:22,800
Speaker 1: if they needed a new defensive coordinator, there's at least

2638
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,680
Speaker 1: a guy now on the coaching roster who's done that before.

2639
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 1: He could step in and be a defensive coordinator. If

2640
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:30,920
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier where ever to leave, right, doesn't I mean

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02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:34,160
Speaker 1: a guy with that resume would, he'd be set up

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02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:36,360
Speaker 1: to do that. That's right, And the more guys with

2643
02:08:37,240 --> 02:08:40,560
Speaker 1: top flight, top level experience, decision making experience, the better.

2644
02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:44,560
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, they have the ability to see unforeseen

2645
02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:46,880
Speaker 1: variables that other guys may not be aware of things

2646
02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 1: that affected them in their job. For instance, Eric Washington,

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02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:51,680
Speaker 1: if he had things that affected him as a defensive

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02:08:51,720 --> 02:08:56,080
Speaker 1: coordinator in wat in Carolina, as their defensive coordinator, he

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02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:58,280
Speaker 1: can bring that to the table here in Buffalo and

2650
02:08:58,360 --> 02:09:00,680
Speaker 1: when it pops up, he may be aware of how

2651
02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:03,000
Speaker 1: that affected them down there. You know, it's just and

2652
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:06,200
Speaker 1: he had a chance to make that decision. All of

2653
02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:09,960
Speaker 1: that experience is invaluable when you get into these into

2654
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:12,440
Speaker 1: situations where you know, stuff happens on the fly during

2655
02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:20,440
Speaker 1: the regular season, injuries, suspensions, whatever. So I'm yeah, it's

2656
02:09:20,440 --> 02:09:22,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a great higher. It makes a lot

2657
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:25,920
Speaker 1: of sense, and um, we'll see how it goes. He's

2658
02:09:25,960 --> 02:09:28,760
Speaker 1: gonna have a different room than they had this year too.

2659
02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:31,560
Speaker 1: If Shaq Lawson and Jordan Phillips aren't there, Harrison Phillips

2660
02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:35,480
Speaker 1: bounced us back into the fold. We'll see. All right,

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02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:37,160
Speaker 1: we got a break and we're back with more. One

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Speaker 1: Does Live presented by Kalaida Health from the Seneca Studio

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02:09:40,000 --> 02:09:57,880
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. So what

2664
02:09:57,960 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 1: have we learned from today's show, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Phil Simms was on the show today former

2667
02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:08,120
Speaker 1: Giants quarterback MVP of a Super Bowl when the Giants

2668
02:10:08,160 --> 02:10:11,000
Speaker 1: wanted a while ago. Phil Simms talks about some mechanical

2669
02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:13,920
Speaker 1: issues with Josh Allen that he spotted watching him over

2670
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:18,880
Speaker 1: this past year. One problem that Josh Allen has when

2671
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:21,760
Speaker 1: your hand the farther it gets away from your body

2672
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 1: to throw the football. It's not just your arm, but

2673
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:28,720
Speaker 1: other parts of your body react to that, and that

2674
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:32,080
Speaker 1: will make you an Ikorn and it holds the test

2675
02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:34,920
Speaker 1: of time. I think there were times this year he

2676
02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:38,920
Speaker 1: was extremely good technically and then also, of course therevers

2677
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:41,640
Speaker 1: times I'd see it throw and I go, my gosh,

2678
02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:44,560
Speaker 1: his arm almost hit hit the go post behind him.

2679
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:47,560
Speaker 1: He reached back so far, but his talent is undeniable.

2680
02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:51,080
Speaker 1: I love him as a quarterback. I think that the

2681
02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:54,360
Speaker 1: Bills as a team did a really good job of

2682
02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:57,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback and how he was incorporated into the offense

2683
02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:01,480
Speaker 1: and what Sean McDermott really wanted to see with the

2684
02:11:01,560 --> 02:11:04,520
Speaker 1: second year quarterback. Bill Sim's talking about Josh Allen. We

2685
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:07,960
Speaker 1: had Great co Sell on from ESPN's NFL Matchup Great

2686
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:11,760
Speaker 1: co Sell talking about Josh Allen's improvement in his second season.

2687
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:16,080
Speaker 1: Here's what he said. And I think his accuracy definitely

2688
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:19,320
Speaker 1: improved throughout the course of this season. He may be

2689
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 1: the kind of quarterback guys that always misses a few,

2690
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:24,080
Speaker 1: and there are quarterbacks like that, and you can still

2691
02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:26,440
Speaker 1: be a good player in that case. But I think

2692
02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 1: he does need to work on some lower body mechanics

2693
02:11:30,040 --> 02:11:32,440
Speaker 1: and that arm angle dropping a little too much which

2694
02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 1: often causes the ball to sail. But for the most part,

2695
02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:38,880
Speaker 1: I think he improved. I mean, this last week's game,

2696
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:42,200
Speaker 1: everybody focuses on the wrong thing. To me. Obviously was

2697
02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:45,240
Speaker 1: the play where he tried to lateral smart, of course not.

2698
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:48,480
Speaker 1: But you know, I think you could do that with

2699
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:51,560
Speaker 1: any quarterback. I mean, I could talk about Deshaun Watson

2700
02:11:51,640 --> 02:11:54,360
Speaker 1: in much the same way with his mechanics, and obviously

2701
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 1: he made a special play that won the game. But

2702
02:11:56,760 --> 02:11:58,640
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen is right where he should be

2703
02:11:58,680 --> 02:12:03,200
Speaker 1: after two years and clearly ascending player. So we got

2704
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:05,600
Speaker 1: those two guys talking about Josh Allen. We also had

2705
02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:08,640
Speaker 1: a Twitter poll today he talking about Josh Allen. Let's

2706
02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:11,360
Speaker 1: revisit that most people, it seems to me Steve think,

2707
02:12:11,960 --> 02:12:14,520
Speaker 1: think a lot of Josh Allen. On our Twitter poll,

2708
02:12:14,600 --> 02:12:17,040
Speaker 1: we asked the question, how did Josh do in his

2709
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:19,720
Speaker 1: second season in the National Football League? How he feel

2710
02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:22,680
Speaker 1: about him following a sophomore season, and fifty nine percent

2711
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 1: said he did better than I expected, thirty seven percent

2712
02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:28,400
Speaker 1: said he did just as I expected, five percent said

2713
02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:32,200
Speaker 1: he did worse than I expected. Passing grades all around

2714
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:34,960
Speaker 1: for Josh Allen, no question of the people thought it

2715
02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:37,640
Speaker 1: was exactly what they were expecting or better. And that's

2716
02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:40,280
Speaker 1: that's big in a season where the team went ten

2717
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:42,200
Speaker 1: and six around him. I think there's no question that

2718
02:12:44,080 --> 02:12:46,680
Speaker 1: you think he's still improving. I think we all see that,

2719
02:12:46,800 --> 02:12:49,160
Speaker 1: and that's the tangible proof of it's not only statistically

2720
02:12:49,240 --> 02:12:51,880
Speaker 1: but by the eye test as well. Certainly he has

2721
02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:55,280
Speaker 1: glitches in his game, but we've seen him wipe away

2722
02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:58,200
Speaker 1: glitches before and kind of smooth those out before, and

2723
02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:00,400
Speaker 1: for me, I'm with everybody else. I think of the

2724
02:13:00,480 --> 02:13:02,560
Speaker 1: ninety of the thing. I think he's gonna smooth these

2725
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:04,760
Speaker 1: glitches out too, and he's gonna be really good at

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Speaker 1: the end of it. I don't know when that's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: We're not there yet. And hopefully he comes back and

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Speaker 1: takes as big a step next year as he did

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Speaker 1: this year. If he does, let's play at Let's play

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Speaker 1: at home in January for a change, right, Yeah, at

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Speaker 1: twenty three years old, going into his third year in

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Speaker 1: the league, I think he's again done better than I

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Speaker 1: expected he would be. He's better than I expected he

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Speaker 1: would be when they drafted him. Quite frankly, he's better.

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Speaker 1: I think I agree. Can I say, Murph once again,

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Speaker 1: you get to the heart of the batter and say

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Speaker 1: that's exactly that didn't sound since here, work on that

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. You got the whole weekend sincerity. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got another show coming up on Monday. Have a

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Speaker 1: great weekend, everybody. There is football to watch. There is

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Speaker 1: no Bills football to watch, but there is football to

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Speaker 1: watch this weekend. Enjoy the games. We'll talk about him

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Speaker 1: on Monday. Our production assistant George Blast, Jeff Colton, At,

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Speaker 1: Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, j j Urito, Kevin Cargis, James Robol,

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Speaker 1: Our producer is Jay Harris. We're back on Monday with

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Speaker 1: Studio in Orchard Park. And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio