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Speaker 2: Where's the hype, where's the excitement, where's the draw? Where

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Speaker 2: is the absolute, oh my god energy for the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: I wanted it. I wanted it to be here.

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Speaker 2: I wanted everyone to be in the moment where all

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Speaker 2: we could think about was what was gonna happen in

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Speaker 2: a series that should absolutely be electric. Yet here we

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Speaker 2: sit with Boston with the one nothing lead Game two

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Speaker 2: this weekend, and I feel like nobody cares. It's a

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Speaker 2: we got the whole crew together, and it just hits

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Speaker 2: me as I sit there and watch Game one the

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Speaker 2: other night and I'm thinking this, this is fine to

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Speaker 2: get to get it.

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Speaker 3: This is the moment.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna come in and we're all gonna be electric

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Speaker 2: because you have this landmark franchise in sports with the

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Speaker 2: Celtics that everybody wants to pay attention to.

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Speaker 3: They'll be hyped for it.

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Speaker 2: The MAVs are coming into this with superstars that we

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Speaker 2: care about, through a playoff run that has shown us

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Speaker 2: clutch performances.

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Speaker 3: What else could you ask for.

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Speaker 2: This was the moment after last weekend show where we

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Speaker 2: sat there and said, I don't know, doesn't feel like

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Speaker 2: the lead up has been what we're used to. This

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Speaker 2: would be the moment the captures everybody and I sat

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Speaker 2: there and watched Game two. I watched the Celtics go

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Speaker 2: in and do with the Celtic Game one, I should

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Speaker 2: say I watched the Celtics do what the Celtics have

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Speaker 2: been doing all year, go in kick butt Boston, being

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Speaker 2: a good, good basketball team, playing good defense, shooting well

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Speaker 2: from the corner right. We all saw the Celtics go

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Speaker 2: out show everything that they have, and I'm thinking, this

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Speaker 2: is gonna be the buss, this is gonna be the moment.

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Speaker 2: This is when we are all going to start to

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Speaker 2: just flock to this series, and instead, yesterday felt like

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Speaker 2: nobody cared as we lead into this weekend with Game

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Speaker 2: two being on Sunday, how many people are just sitting

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Speaker 2: there saying, you know what, the one thing I gotta

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Speaker 3: It just isn't hitting.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know why, Figgy, tell me I'm wrong,

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Speaker 2: because I know you love the league, right, and I

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Speaker 2: know that this is the series that, even as a

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Speaker 2: Lakers guy, because of the Celtics, you're looking at it

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Speaker 2: and saying, well, at least I.

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Speaker 3: Got a rooting interest. I know who I'm rooting against.

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Speaker 2: There are all the reasons here that this thing should

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Speaker 2: be electric, and I just feel like, still, even now

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Speaker 2: that the series has started, people are sitting there saying, I.

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Speaker 4: Guess, yeah, you know why it's not electric because you

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Speaker 5: So now that's the last thing. Impression.

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Speaker 4: Look, I know Dallas made a bit of a run

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Speaker 4: but it was never really close. It wasn't really competitive.

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Speaker 4: So if that's your impression, by the way, consider the

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Speaker 4: fact that the m was off. You know, the Celtics

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Speaker 4: swept Dallas won relatively easily, and so we had what ten,

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Speaker 4: all that anticipation, then all of a sudden, Dallas comes

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Speaker 4: away from Boston, they played a phenomenal game, but you

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Speaker 4: have all this time off and it leads up to that.

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Speaker 5: That trash game that we saw the other night.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's a big reason where people like,

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Speaker 4: is this what the NBA Finals is gonna look like?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean, even as a diehard, I wouldn't care either.

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Speaker 4: Now I do, and I'm obviously going to end up

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Speaker 4: tuning in for Game two. But Dallas has to show

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Speaker 4: themselves a lot better, and the NBA has got to

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Speaker 4: be killing themselves saying, like, please, for the love of God,

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Speaker 4: we cannot have blowouts throughout this series. Even if it's

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Speaker 4: one of those Boston wins by twenty, Boston wins by fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Did you go back to Dallas and Dallas wins by

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Speaker 4: competitive matchup. If game one I was asking, I'll ask

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Speaker 4: Do you think that you would feel differently than you

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's a great question by you, because you're a

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Speaker 2: thousand percent right. If we get a last second shot

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Speaker 3: Say, Oh, what a serious we're about to get.

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Speaker 2: I think people are just so want for the Celtics

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Speaker 2: but it's not even interesting to anybody. And I feel

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Speaker 2: like there was more buzz last night for Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: was more buzz for that just sitting around than there

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Speaker 2: is so often baseball fans, basketball fans, even college football fans,

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Speaker 3: If you don't like it, you don't get it. There's

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Speaker 3: so much of an answer to it to me.

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Speaker 2: If you are a major sport and your final is

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Speaker 2: find a way to cover, you've got a problem. Like

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Speaker 2: you mentioned the ten day layoff for for the Celtics, particularly,

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Speaker 2: But man, if we have two weeks leading up to

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Speaker 3: You got two weeks leading up to the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 3: and it's like, well, I don't know, lost a little

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Speaker 2: You know, we have six days and oh, basketball kind

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Speaker 2: I think that's the sign that there's a problem.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's also the inherent issue with a day to

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Speaker 4: day sport like basketball or baseball. You know, those are games.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you're playing baseball, you're doing it every

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Speaker 5: You're used to playing every single.

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Speaker 4: So it's just a little bit different now. The big

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Speaker 4: who have been giant duds. Like I can remember now,

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Speaker 4: granted this was years ago, but do you will remember

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Speaker 4: this as well? This is before you at the off,

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Speaker 4: championship games. Remember when the Raiders played the Buccaneers in

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Speaker 4: But you're able to put that behind you because it's

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Speaker 4: NBA Finals Game one with such a dud. What do

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Speaker 4: I have to look forward to? Is this what the

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Speaker 4: entire series is going to look like? Once a bad

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Speaker 4: football game comes and goes, it's gone. You move on

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Speaker 3: You're right about every ounce of that.

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Speaker 2: It just feels like the NBA is closer to becoming

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball than it is the NFL. And to me,

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Speaker 2: a big part of this comes back to the Celtics.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. And for my money, if we're.

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Speaker 2: Looking at one of the most dominant runs in the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I play he was in front of you.

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Speaker 5: I don't play that game.

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Speaker 3: If you're the Celtics and you are going you are

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Speaker 3: the Celtics, let me say that again. If you are.

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Speaker 2: The Celtics, like one of the great brands in all

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Speaker 2: if we were watching the Dodgers in the World Series

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Speaker 2: you know, let's qualify the run that got here, we'd

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Speaker 3: And playoff history?

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Speaker 2: Like, for whatever reason, the Finals hasn't grabbed everybody, and

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Speaker 3: Have it really grabbed.

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Speaker 2: Like it feels to me like there are more haters

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Speaker 3: They just don't care.

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Speaker 2: And and maybe part of this is the MAVs, Like

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Speaker 2: maybe if the MAVs a won Game one and the

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Speaker 3: We would have gone to that. Like maybe that's the

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Speaker 2: We just don't get enough drama from this Celtics team

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Speaker 2: here saying, yeah, but what about this guy that's gonna choke?

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Speaker 2: It's just it his landed flat without.

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Speaker 5: That, yeah, And there's an element of troops to that.

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Speaker 4: And like Boston, just the Boston fans, Boston franchises in

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Speaker 4: general have their share of haters throughout the country for

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Speaker 4: for myriad reasons. I certainly understand that sentiment, and you're right,

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Speaker 4: because the Celtics have, for lack of a better term,

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Speaker 4: folded many times over the last four or five years

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Speaker 4: in the postseason. It's almost like people are waiting for

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Speaker 4: them to screw up. It's like, yeah, Boston look good,

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Speaker 4: but you know, call me in five games, you know,

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Speaker 4: when they're down in the series again.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: So they have a lot of things working against them.

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Speaker 4: But ultimately, I really think the biggest issue with the

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Speaker 4: that Boston was just so dominant and ran the Dallas

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Speaker 4: So it gives people a little bit less to look

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Speaker 5: No, it's not that low on the wrong either. You

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Speaker 9: Kevin Figures. I'm Anthony Gargana. All right, boys, Uh thanks,

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Speaker 6: A couple of things. Fitzie.

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Speaker 9: That game one, Wow, I know you guys talked about it,

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Speaker 6: You uh you're right there with Boston. Let's see what happens.

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Speaker 9: But man, if anything's about game one, it was like,

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Speaker 9: disjoint their offense will be disjointed.

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Speaker 6: My only question is, let me throw this at you guys.

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Speaker 9: When Boston goes nuts from three, they're unbeatable, right, So

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Speaker 2: I feel like the rest advantage is gonna be a

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Speaker 2: They played successfully for the majority of the year, right, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: They're gonna cool off.

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Speaker 2: They've been pretty pretty consistent. I thought what we saw

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Speaker 3: That's why they've won games.

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Speaker 2: I don't worry about that in Game two either, especially

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Speaker 2: But I think for Game two tomorrow night, yeah, they'll

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, fake.

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Speaker 4: No, I'll just say yeah, I agree with everything that

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Speaker 5: They can't really dominate the paint.

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Speaker 5: That it will. I think Dallas will show up.

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Speaker 4: That does mean Dallas is gonna win Game two, but

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Speaker 4: I certainly I'm expecting a better showing. I don't expect

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Speaker 4: of the sport already. He he's these he's been that

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Speaker 4: dominant throughout his young tenure. But when it's not going

440
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Speaker 4: for him and he's not getting a lot of help,

441
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Speaker 4: and it's just really tough sledding. And those guys, the PJ. Washington's,

442
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 4: you know, who had made such a big impact throughout

443
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Speaker 4: the postseason so far, they don't show up.

444
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Speaker 5: Lucy can't do it all by himself.

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Speaker 6: No, No, I mean Kyrie too, Like you know, taking

446
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Speaker 6: Kyrie out, you know, that was that's huge. That was

447
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 6: that was big.

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Speaker 9: I you know, kudos to FITZI because FITZI thought por

449
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Speaker 9: Zingis would have a big, a big impact. You said it, FITZI,

450
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Speaker 9: that he would have the bigger impact. My Boston hate

451
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 9: was shining through. Man, I'm looking at my wounds. It's

452
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 9: hard to watch that. It really is boys, you know,

453
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Speaker 9: that's our blood rival. Like that's yes, And all Boston

454
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Speaker 9: does is win like they the whole city. It never

455
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Speaker 9: goes through like this long period where all four teams

456
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Speaker 9: are bad.

457
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Speaker 6: They always got somebody in the finals.

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Speaker 3: You're right about that, I think.

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Speaker 2: So this is where maybe the way I compartmentalize certain

460
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Speaker 2: things as a fan, otherwise that'll drive me crazy.

461
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Speaker 3: I have learned over the last few years to simply.

462
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Speaker 2: Step back and have so much respect for the Kansas

463
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Speaker 2: City Chiefs that it doesn't hurt my heart the same way.

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Speaker 3: I look at it and say, hey, you.

465
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Speaker 2: Know what, I just got to accept the best quarterback

466
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Speaker 2: and the best coach in the entire NFL are playing

467
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Speaker 2: on a team that is argue, it is either one

468
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Speaker 2: of depending on which Raiders fan you ask one of,

469
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Speaker 2: or or close to the biggest rival that my team has. Right, Like, So,

470
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs are just absolutely the worst. We all know that.

471
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Speaker 2: But I've just learned to accept their greatness as a

472
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Speaker 2: way to sort of compartmentalize it.

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Speaker 3: So maybe do that with Boston just think, hey, what

474
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Speaker 3: a run.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how it works. I don't know, you know,

476
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Speaker 2: I'm in this. I have peace with Mahomes being so

477
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 2: great because I know it can't stop.

478
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Speaker 3: Him, so like it's just it's just it's great to me.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, I had peace with the fact that John

480
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 4: Elway was a phenomenal quarterback and was going to kick

481
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 4: the Raiders ass twice a year for a decade. That

482
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Speaker 4: does mean that I liked it, or that I rooted

483
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Speaker 4: for him, or just you know, resigned on.

484
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Speaker 5: Something to the fact that I don't root for it.

485
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so I mean that do I still want

486
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Speaker 4: them to lose every single week and every game that

487
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Speaker 4: they play one hundred percent?

488
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Speaker 5: I just know that's probably unlikely to happen.

489
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Speaker 4: I can respect them and still say I want this

490
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Speaker 4: guy to get destroyed every single solitary week. So that

491
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Speaker 4: is still my feeling with Kansas City, and that is

492
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Speaker 4: absolutely still my feeling with the Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 5: But again, I can call a spade of spade.

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Speaker 4: Like I said last week, I said, the only reason

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Speaker 4: I was ended up taking Dallas was because I thought

496
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Speaker 4: this series was basically even and I have a bias

497
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Speaker 4: because I don't like Boston, so that was it.

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Speaker 5: I can respect the fact that.

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Speaker 4: Look, if I thought Boston legitimately had the leg up

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Speaker 4: and was a better team all around, I would say

501
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Speaker 4: Boston is a better team and they're gonna win this series. Now,

502
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Speaker 4: based off of Game one, it certainly looks that way,

503
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Speaker 4: but there's still a long way to go.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: See, the Chiefs before this period, the Cheese were never

506
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Speaker 9: really like a thorn in your side.

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Speaker 5: In some senses. They were at times.

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Speaker 4: Uh they were super Bowl not super Bowl No, but

509
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Speaker 4: if from just from a division standpoint, Marty had good

510
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Speaker 4: years there, Uh, Priest Holmes would kill them every single

511
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Speaker 4: year in the you know, the two thousands with the

512
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Speaker 4: vermil So if it's from a from an AFC West standpoint,

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Speaker 4: they're always a thorn in the Raiders side or even Denver,

514
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Speaker 4: even when Denver was good for a lot of years.

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Speaker 6: What's the division? Like? The division?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, you guys, you know, let's see, we

517
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Speaker 9: all hate our division foes, right like you know in

518
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Speaker 9: my division, Dallas and the Giants, right, Washington probably not

519
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Speaker 9: as much because Washington has been bad for you know

520
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Speaker 9: that long yeah, right, But Boston is just a city

521
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Speaker 9: rivalry so like Boston Philly, right, Like, so the hate

522
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 9: goes deep, it's deep, deep hate and jealousy.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, like there is such a city rivalry

524
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Speaker 2: to all of that that that just hits different.

525
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Speaker 3: That that is a.

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Speaker 2: Very fair point, you know, And certainly Boston fans have

527
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Speaker 2: had the glory of winning for so long in general

528
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Speaker 2: that this run for one city feels unprecedented.

529
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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: It is wild to me to see, you know, kids

531
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Speaker 2: that have grown up and just never know what it's

532
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Speaker 2: like to not have one of your major teams winning

533
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Speaker 2: a championship almost every year. So yeah, I can feel

534
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Speaker 2: that until my court and from the city aspect of it.

535
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Speaker 2: That's that's something I don't think, you know, growing up

536
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: in Vegas as a kid, Vegas doesn't have a lot

537
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Speaker 2: of city rivals. Living in Nashville for twenty plus years,

538
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: Nashville doesn't have a lot of city rivals. You're right,

539
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Speaker 2: I think one thing that makes it different. That's also

540
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Speaker 2: like a proximity thing. In Connecticut, I learned that, like

541
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Speaker 2: so many of the major places in New England are

542
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Speaker 2: so close together that you really do have a like

543
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Speaker 2: what's Nashville is.

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Speaker 3: Going to be Memphis, right, Memphis isn't. They're so different

545
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Speaker 3: in cities.

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Speaker 2: I don't really that's a rivalry, you know, but but

547
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Speaker 2: the proximity Philly to Boston just makes that hurt a

548
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Speaker 2: little bit more.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, It's like there's you know, it's Boston in New York.

550
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Speaker 9: And because Boston is a you know, we're it's closer.

551
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Speaker 6: Its size.

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Speaker 9: Phillippi is bigger than Boston, but it's you know, New

553
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Speaker 9: York is so massive, right that, you know whatever.

554
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Speaker 6: Now there's a rivalry.

555
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Speaker 9: But the Philadelphia Boston thing because both both cities were

556
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Speaker 9: you know, the first cities of the country. You know,

557
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Speaker 9: you have the Quaker versus the Puritan That was always

558
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Speaker 9: a thing. Like they had that Puritanical attitude up there. Right,

559
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 9: We're Quaker, We're all, you know, all encompassing.

560
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Speaker 4: I never heard it described that way, but I like it.

561
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: In the soil, Yeah, imagining Martin Luther leading the legions.

562
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Speaker 5: Let's go, we got a holy war going on.

563
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Speaker 9: Well, the Quakers were were exclusive, right, Like the Quakers

564
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 9: were about the sum of all parts, right, you know.

565
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 9: The Puritans with their fire and brimstone, you know, they

566
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Speaker 9: were they were just difficult people.

567
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Speaker 4: Now you brought up an interesting or had an interesting

568
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Speaker 4: common A second ago you said the rivalry Boston Philadelphia

569
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Speaker 4: and the jealousy, So who's jealous of who?

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Speaker 6: No, I'm certainly jealous of Boston.

571
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that I mean because from a sports standpoint

572
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Speaker 4: and who's won more recently and all that, I think

573
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Speaker 4: Boston would have the leg up.

574
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Speaker 5: But I just I wasn't sure what your perspective it was.

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Speaker 2: It was city Bostonians are jealous of, right, Like, if

576
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Speaker 2: you're a Boston person, is there a city that you

577
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Speaker 2: look at and.

578
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: Say, oh God, I just wish.

579
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: Like, are they the are they the most sun kissed

580
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: sports city in America?

581
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 5: Privileged? For sure?

582
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Speaker 4: Over the last years, you'd say, since since the Red

583
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: Sox broke the curse n O four, I mean, no

584
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Speaker 4: cities won as much as they have.

585
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we always talk about cities have had the worst drought,

586
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: but like, sure, have we ever seen the King?

587
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Speaker 6: They're the King?

588
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Speaker 9: Ian Do me a favor, go back to the tournament

589
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 9: centric go back to two thousand and give me finals

590
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 9: appearances for Celtics, Bruins, Red Sox.

591
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Speaker 4: And Patriots and started in one with the Patriots.

592
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Speaker 6: Oh god, I.

593
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Speaker 3: Mean, you're right, nobody.

594
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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's even gonna come close. Like every

595
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: time Atlanta loses a championship, we sit there and talk about,

596
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: you know, how decimating that is for that cursed sports city.

597
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: You know, but it's it is interesting.

598
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 2: I respect the hell out of the fact that you

599
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: have not gone down. There's one rabbit hole that I

600
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 2: hate in college football.

601
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Speaker 3: There's one.

602
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: There's one absolute thing that I cannot stand in college football,

603
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: and it's when SEC fans just adopt whatever SEC team

604
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: or Big Ten fans adopt whatever Big Ten team is

605
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: in the championship and they start chanting for their conference.

606
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 3: I'm like, if you're a Georgia fan, how.

607
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: Do you root for Like there's never a part of

608
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 2: me in the Super Bowl that's rooting for the Chiefs.

609
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: How do you possible for Alabama if you're a Georgia fan,

610
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: or Michigan if you're an fan because you want your

611
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: conference to win the national championship. I don't want my

612
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Speaker 2: biggest rival to win a scratch off lottery ticket for

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Speaker 2: a dollar, nonetheless an actual championship. So I've never understood

614
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: that with college football fans do it way more than

615
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: any anybody else. College basketball fans to a certain degree,

616
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Speaker 2: but college football fans with the SCC chance, it's like,

617
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: not if your team didn't do that, shut up, don't chant.

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Speaker 4: There's for whatever reason, and maybe because college sports has

619
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: just been so regional for so long, there's just an

620
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 4: element of tribalism that comes along with it. So, you know,

621
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Speaker 4: and and I would when Lincoln was on the show

622
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Speaker 4: Lincoln Kennedy, you know, the great you know, with the

623
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Speaker 4: play with the Raiders play at University of Washington, he

624
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 4: would always give SEC versus PAC twelve, and we were

625
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 4: always caping up for the Pac twelve somewhat tongue in cheek,

626
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 4: but somewhat seriously too, because there was always the the

627
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 4: East Coast bias and the West coast not getting a

628
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 4: lot of love, and it's like, well, you know what,

629
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Speaker 4: if Washington can't win, hopefully se wins it. If s

630
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 4: he doesn't win, maybe Standford, it will turn into like

631
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 4: one of those situations. So I think just for the

632
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 4: longstanding history in general of college sports, that's kind of

633
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 4: how up until with the last i'd say twenty years

634
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: or so, when we've had national championships and expanded playoffs,

635
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: and now it's becoming more of a national sport. You

636
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 4: kind of took up for your conference, your region versus

637
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: another conference versus another region. But I certainly understand the

638
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: rivalry aspect of it. Fits If Auburn loses the iron ball,

639
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: they're not gonna all of a sudden and say, oh,

640
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: but Alabama wins the national championship. But if you're South

641
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: Carolina and you don't have a stake in a game,

642
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: and you're five hundred and didn't have a you know,

643
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: a chance to win anyway, you probably want your conference

644
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: to win a championship just to say, like, you know what,

645
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: we were part of the number one conference in the country.

646
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Speaker 5: So I certainly understand it.

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00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 10: Okay, So so I have the numbers here, guys. Okay,

648
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 10: So for Boston since two thousand, they've won seven, so

649
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 10: there were This is actually just between basketball and football,

650
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 10: so this is not including baseball yet.

651
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Speaker 2: But that's just wins. We're only talking championship wins, not appearances.

652
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Speaker 5: Yeah, championship wins.

653
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Speaker 9: You don't have finals appearances because the part of the

654
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 9: story is they're always in the finals.

655
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Speaker 5: If you want appearances, I have that too.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, give me the appearances and I need all

657
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Speaker 9: four sports.

658
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 10: Okay, So for appearances, Celtics since two thousand have appeared

659
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 10: in the finals four times, the Lakers eight. So Boston

660
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 10: versus La LA has them pretty beat in terms of basketball.

661
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 10: And then you look at football. Obviously the Patriots were

662
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 10: the dynasty there, but the rams at La is a city.

663
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 10: Actually since two thousand they have two Super Bowls themselves.

664
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Speaker 6: Okay, well give me the final. Give me how many super.

665
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 5: Bowls or La? No, no, no, for Patriots. The Patriots, you're.

666
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 6: Fumbling, signment man, have six?

667
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: Right, So we're talking about the city.

668
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 6: Now, that's ten, all right, So what about what about uh?

669
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 6: The hockey and uh and the Red Sox.

670
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 5: I got I gotta check the hockey numbers.

671
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: Hang on, So like grad socks, I'm thinking off the

672
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: top of my head, I got four oh seven thirteen.

673
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 5: I'm missing one. That's three big three three.

674
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: So that's those are the three oh, four oh seven

675
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Speaker 4: and thirteen I believe are the ore the Red Sox

676
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: World Series.

677
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: So we were at.

678
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: Ten before we even got to that. I mean, that's

679
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: that's wild, y'all.

680
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 6: I mean that's city dominance.

681
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 9: To be always relevant like that in one of your

682
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 9: four sports.

683
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, the amount of pressure that it takes, by the way,

684
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 4: as an organization. Concurrently in that same city, the Patriots

685
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: are winning that much. If you're the Celtics, you're like, well,

686
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: what the hell are we doing? Any of the Bruins

687
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: you're like, all right, well we got to step up

688
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: two or we're gonna get You're gonna be irrelevant if

689
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 4: you don't.

690
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because so I show the Bruins, by the way,

691
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: I one to three, three steps your final appearances in

692
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: the in the two.

693
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Speaker 9: Thousands, right, oh my god, so Red Sox three, Bruins three,

694
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 9: Oh my god, sixteen, We're we're in twenty twenty four. Yeah,

695
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 9: we're not even done twenty twenty four and they've been

696
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 9: in sixteen finals.

697
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 5: That's unbelievable.

698
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: I mean that that's just a that's a level of

699
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: domin and that changes.

700
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: It's something that is you say that really makes me

701
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: think about expectations, because I'm the one that said earlier.

702
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: You know, I think Celtics fans all need to relax

703
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: a little bit and enjoy this run. Like it feels

704
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: like Boston fans have been so worried about what's coming

705
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: throughout the course of this playoff run.

706
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: That they haven't really had fun with it, which is

707
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: weird to me.

708
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: And Celtics fans then responded and clap back pretty aggressively, saying,

709
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: I don't understand what it's like to watch your team

710
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: lose in the finals so often.

711
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: But I would look at it and say, man, if.

712
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: You are a sports fan, a city sports fan, and

713
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: you for everything that comes out of that city, and

714
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: you've seen sixteen finals appearances in twenty four years, it

715
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: changes what you think the regular expectations are. Like I'll

716
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: never forget being in Vegas for one of the last

717
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: regular season games for the Golden Knights the year they

718
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: did not make the playoffs. Place was empty, and somebody

719
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: that worked with the team commented, the city has no

720
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: idea what it's like to not make the playoffs. I

721
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: think everybody does every year, because that's what the Golden

722
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: Knights have done every years. If you're the Celtics or

723
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 2: if you're a Boston fan, your expectation has just got

724
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: to be constant, Like this is gonna for generations in

725
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: thirty years when Boston fans are just apoplectic if they

726
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: missed the playoffs.

727
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to look at this era.

728
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: And say, well, you went to sixteen finals as a

729
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: city in twenty four years. Of course that's the only standard.

730
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 2: Is winning it older or absolutely everything else is trash.

731
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: And that's not an experience that most cities have had.

732
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: It's not reality. It's just it's not real. But I

733
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: mean the people are delusional. You deal with it in

734
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: Los Angeles too, Like you know, say what you want

735
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: about the Bubble Championship with the Lakers in twenty twenty,

736
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: but you know, a year and a half after that

737
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: they missed the playoffs. Ad gets hurt and they're like,

738
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: what the hell the Lakers need to blow this up.

739
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: This is ridiculous. We have standards here. It's like you

740
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: just won them. You just won a championship two years ago.

741
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: Like they don't care. It's like it's a new year.

742
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: Every single year. When you're a franchise or a city

743
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: that's used to winning. When you don't, everybody wants to

744
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 4: blow everything up. Everybody wants to do something different. Even

745
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 4: when it says like you can't win every single year.

746
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: Nobody wins every single solitary year. Even look, even New

747
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: England sixteen out of twenty four. They didn't win every

748
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 4: single year, but the standard is so high and so

749
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 4: unrealistic in some senses, it really, it really is difficult.

750
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 4: It's an unenviable position in some senses to be a coach, player,

751
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 4: front office person for one of those franchises, because you

752
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 4: can almost never live up to the expectation because as

753
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: soon as you win a championship at the victory of Parade,

754
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: they're like, all right, so here's what the off season

755
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: looks like, and how are we going to attack this

756
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 4: next year?

757
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 5: Repeat, repeat, right.

758
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 9: Four p you know, and then not only did they

759
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 9: have to deal with that piece of it with all four,

760
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 9: but the specter of Brady and Belichick for all those

761
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 9: years now, all those years of pure.

762
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: Dominance and yeah, yeah, you have to be Mayo, you

763
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: have to be I think what helps him is that

764
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 4: the shine kind of came off of Bill Belichi at

765
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 4: the last couple of years because Brady left and they've

766
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 4: been kind of this a middling average, you know team.

767
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 4: You know, if Brady and Belichick both left at the

768
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 4: same time, there's no way and I don't, I don't,

769
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want that job.

770
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 5: I don't want to be the quarterback. I don't want

771
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 5: to be the head coach.

772
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: I'll wait, give me another give me a couple three, four,

773
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 4: five years before everything gets cleared out, and I'll come

774
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 4: back in and see if I can make something happen.

775
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: Because that is a very thankless position to be in.

776
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: That is not a position I'd want to be in

777
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 4: to have for a place.

778
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 5: Two legends like that.

779
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 6: No, No, you're right home, all right, we gotta take

780
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 6: quick time out and be right back. Feltas hanging right

781
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 6: here Fox Sports Radio.

782
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports.

783
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 9: Radio Radio, fellas hanging on a Fox Sports Saturday. We're

784
00:35:53,480 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 9: talking about the champion cities and these these let's Boston.

785
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 9: You know it's funny too because you imagine if you're

786
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 9: like young sports fan like and you grow up, if

787
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 9: you are, let's just think about it, right, a thirty

788
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 9: year old Bostonian, and all you've known is this, Like

789
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 9: could you imagine you wonder why you think you're entitled?

790
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: Well, and that's where in twenty thirty years, if teams

791
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: aren't as good and people are freaking out, you got

792
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: to look back to this as the why, right, Like,

793
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm genuinely interested to see what happens to the Patriots

794
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: in the next five years, because I'm not I'm not

795
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: sure right now, Great Gerrodmeo could turn out to be

796
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: an absolute home run of a higher you know, great,

797
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: just like Jordan Love has turned out to probably be

798
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 2: the third straight quarterback for the Packers. You know, maybe

799
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: there can be this kiss of luck for the Patriots

800
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: where they have back to back incredible coaches that are

801
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: able to accomplish acredible, incredible things.

802
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: That's not the norm.

803
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 2: So if the Patriots simply become a normal football team

804
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: that makes the playoffs every thirty four years, you know,

805
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: maybe has a little run, but they're just not sustainably great.

806
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: What happens to the era.

807
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: Of fans that grew up that were ten years old

808
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: when Brady started winning Super Bowls that their formative years

809
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: at football fans were championships every single year. How is

810
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: that fan going to embrace seven and ten versus ten

811
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: and seven in that range for a ten year period,

812
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: which is for most teams kind of real Like the

813
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: NFL is built for everybody to be eight and nine

814
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: or nine and eight. So once you come back into

815
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: that reality, what happens to those fans that are sitting

816
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: there that have no idea that that's what life is like.

817
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Like how many Patriots fans just presumed mac Jones would

818
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: be as good as Tom Brady because all they'd ever

819
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: seen was Tom Brady, right, And so if Drake may

820
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: turns out to also not be the answer. If you're

821
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: the Patriots, are you gonna look around like a fan?

822
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: Are you gonna look around and not be able to

823
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: even figure out how to process it?

824
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 6: Like?

825
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: What what does fandom look like?

826
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 6: For them?

827
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 11: Well?

828
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 9: The other thing too with them is they the town

829
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 9: itself is not the biggest, Like it's not a football town, right,

830
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 9: It's a more of a baseball.

831
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 6: You know, you can argue.

832
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 9: I mean forever leading up to the dynasty, the Patriots

833
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 9: were fourth among the think about they're probably one of

834
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 9: the only cities where the football team was fourth.

835
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 6: I mean that said something too.

836
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: I went to a Patriots game as a kid in

837
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: at old Foxborough, and I'll never forget how empty that

838
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: stadium was. You know, before Robert Kraft took over. You

839
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: are a hundred percent right, Like that was a different

840
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: that was just a much different vibe, you know. And

841
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: if you're if you're a Boston fan. Now if you're

842
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: if you're a Patriots fan now you don't even remember

843
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: those years and and look glory for them, Good on them.

844
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: I don't wish watching.

845
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: Your favorite teams suck on almost anybody, right, Like, that's

846
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: just that it's terrible when it happens year in and

847
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: year out. But it is interesting that you know, we

848
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: all understand what the mindset is of a fan that

849
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: grew up like I did watching the Raiders lose double

850
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: digit you know, games for whatever, thirteen straight years. You

851
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: understand what that fans mentality is, like what does the

852
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: other side live like? And that's there's a whole era

853
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: of Chiefs fans right now that are learning a difference.

854
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: You know, if you're if you're a kid right now,

855
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: you think it's always been this easy for Kansas City,

856
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: Like you have no idea that this is that special.

857
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 9: And it's funny the city things interesting because you know,

858
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 9: you can have one team be very successful, but you

859
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 9: know the rest of the city, the rest of the teams,

860
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 9: Like I'm a big believer in the collective of the city. Like,

861
00:39:54,920 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 9: so for my reality, I saw I I lived through

862
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 9: a hundred.

863
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 6: Seasons with no title.

864
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 9: Between four between the Phillies, Flyers, Sixers, and Eagles. They

865
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 9: had gone one hundred seasons until the Phillies won it

866
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 9: in eight. The Sixers won in nineteen eighty three. And

867
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 9: I'm a kid, and they made the Phillies winning eight,

868
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 9: which is one hundred seasons of any chance, I mean,

869
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 9: and not even a ton of finals like appearances.

870
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 6: I mean that that's.

871
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 4: The normal, And that's the norm for the majority of

872
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: the country. That's the thing you think, So that's usual.

873
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: I mean, teams just I've.

874
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: Got a breakdown I can give you. I got a

875
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: city breakdown.

876
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 6: Right, look for it. Let's do it.

877
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 9: Let's do that with a quick time out where the

878
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 9: fellas hanging right here.

879
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: Fox don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

880
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 12: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

881
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 12: good morning, good morning, Abody.

882
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 9: Well a happy, happy, happy sports Saturday, Fellas. June the eighth,

883
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 9: gotta love June the eighth, and much closer to football season.

884
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 9: If we say it every day, I mean, it's not

885
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 9: even oh, Fitzy.

886
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 6: This is the time where I really like miss it.

887
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 9: This is the time where I'm like, all right, you know,

888
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 9: I'm ready for some football. We're broadcasting live from the

889
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Speaker 9: tyrack dot com studios.

890
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,040
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893
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Speaker 9: the way tire buying should be. And I just miss it,

894
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 9: like I missed the Uh. I love the other you know,

895
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 9: I love all the nuances of the other sports. I

896
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 9: know you guys are talking about the NHL, and you

897
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 9: know I'll talk about it.

898
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 6: You know, a great matchup.

899
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 9: Uh, it's shame like just the buzz other than the uh,

900
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 9: the woman that's the all the show. Other than that,

901
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 9: just like there's there's not a lot of buzz.

902
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: You're right, But you know, as we started the show

903
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 2: we're talking about I think what's interesting is I'm used

904
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 2: to that for this time of the CAP Final, which,

905
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: by the way, I mean you're talking about a historic

906
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: franchise that has incredible roots in Canada, that that everybody

907
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: loves if you're a certain age, simply because you got

908
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: love form I should say, because of Gretzky and what

909
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: it meant for all of us growing up, and also

910
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: you know, the best player in the world altogether, and

911
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: it still has minimal buzz. I'm used to that because

912
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 2: it's hockey, right like, so I'm used to the NHL

913
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: just sort of falling by the wayside for most people

914
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: in this in this landscape, I'm used to that. I'm

915
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: not used to the lack of around the NBA Finals.

916
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: I think, to me, it's it's stunning. But I feel

917
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: like the NHL Final, by the way, is the Stanley

918
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: Cup Final is going to give us a beautiful, beautiful

919
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: series that is going to be absolutely electric. And like,

920
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: eight people work here, but I'm one of them, so

921
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 2: you know, no.

922
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 6: But you know what, I'm one of them too. I like,

923
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 6: I'm a hockey fan.

924
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 9: I mean, it's got one talking about drouts and you know,

925
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 9: the Flyers have been on an epic, epic drought, but

926
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 9: you know they were a huge part of you know,

927
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 9: my childhood growing up. And you mentioned that Edmonton team,

928
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 9: you know, the Dynasty team. I mean, you know, I'm

929
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,479
Speaker 9: a kid. I mean that were they were the greatest ever.

930
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, Gretzky and Curry and you go

931
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 9: through that team one after the other when they were

932
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 9: just outrageous and I'll never forget in eighty seven, the

933
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 9: Flyers taken him to UH to Game seven on a

934
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 9: Sunday afternoon.

935
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 6: They lose the game too, nothing well, nothing like it

936
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 6: was like an.

937
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 9: Incredible, incredible game that they pushed that dynasty to seven

938
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 9: to seven games led by Rick Tockett, who's now the

939
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 9: great coach, and it was you know, it was one

940
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 9: of these you know, incredible. They lost twice to Edmonton

941
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 9: in the finals eighty five and eighty seven. So like,

942
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 9: these are memories and that's a sport that I love.

943
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 9: But it's it's bizarre because it felt like it was bigger,

944
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 9: you know a few years ago, I mean when I

945
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 9: don't know, maybe it's just because of the Vegas thing.

946
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 6: The Vegas.

947
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 9: Vegas made it a monster, right like it tip It

948
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 9: kind of contributed to the tipping point.

949
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: I've always had this mindset though that like part of

950
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: it is the way that things get covered, Like we

951
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: figured out a long time ago that people really just

952
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: want right so you know, imagine remember the world, I

953
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: should say where the spelling Bee was actually something people

954
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: paid attention to on ESPN right like it would they

955
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: would show hell until last year for fourth.

956
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 6: I loved the spelling big I loved it.

957
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: Oh, really, you're a big spelling, big, big big phone.

958
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 6: I do. I loved I used to, I loved it.

959
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 9: I would do on the next day on the show,

960
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 9: I would do, uh, the sports spelling big and I

961
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 9: would get names.

962
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 5: And you have to spell like you know Skrzewski.

963
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, k r z y z e w s

964
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 6: k I.

965
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 5: Right, Frank.

966
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: So there was a three three year period, four year

967
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: period until last year, last year, first Star. I didn't

968
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 2: do it in years where I was the sideline reporter

969
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: on the hot Dog Gating contest on the fourth of

970
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: July every year. Nice for ESPN, so like, but I

971
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: say that because that moment, because there's fourth of July,

972
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: everybody's watching this random weird thing. I would get more

973
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 2: recognition for that. I'd have more people I haven't seen

974
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: in thirty years texting me being like.

975
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I just saw your DV over the

976
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: hot dog eating contest.

977
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: Because it has a captive audience, it used to be,

978
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: especially in the summer, there was truly an proportunity for

979
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: captive audience for non traditional sports.

980
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: The Olympics are what is five weeks away? Six weeks away?

981
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and who right now even knows the name of

982
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: most of the Olympians, And it used to be that

983
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: there was this long lead up.

984
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: I remember when I was a kid, even.

985
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: When I was practicing the violin in the summer, I

986
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: used to turn Wimbledon on in the background and mute it,

987
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: and then I would practice while.

988
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: Wimbledon was on.

989
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 6: Like that.

990
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: Stuff just doesn't get covered anymore because you're right time

991
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: it go.

992
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 3: Like I used to.

993
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 9: I loved I loved tennis, like growing up. I don't

994
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 9: know what it was like. I used to always watch Wembledon, No.

995
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: Dude, I mean being from Vegas as a kid and

996
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: having Andre Agassi be who he was, Like, yeah, there

997
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 2: was no way you weren't watching tennis as a kid,

998
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 2: right like and so, but it's interesting because it always

999
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: felt like there was that breath in the summer for

1000
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: all of these sort of things. So the NHL got

1001
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: more love for years because the Santa Cup Final in

1002
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: the Santa Cup playoffs taking place in the summer gave

1003
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: more opportunity for that. Now it's just a it's a

1004
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: NonStop sports calendar specifically for the NFL, which we love

1005
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: is NFL junkies, but it just it means that when

1006
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: the majority of your coverage in general, when the majority

1007
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: of the things that we're talking about, when all the

1008
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: headlines on Yahoo Sports are not going to be about

1009
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: the little things, like you're just going to turn around

1010
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: at some point and say, Okay, we become a society

1011
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: that's obsessed with three or four things and that's what

1012
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: all of our focus is.

1013
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: So that means everything else that's true in the niche category.

1014
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 6: Is that true or.

1015
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 9: Is it just the media like there's they play the

1016
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 9: hits like.

1017
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 6: This is interesting.

1018
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 9: This is a great conversation because growing up, I love

1019
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 9: Sports Illustrated and Sports Illustrated. You know, it would always

1020
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 9: have football as you're you know, you're beyond the the

1021
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 9: cover was always the big deal, right, so you would

1022
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 9: have obviously, you know, the NFL would and college football

1023
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 9: would always be on the cover. But you had auto

1024
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 9: racing for the Indianapolis five hundred, golf for the Mansters,

1025
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 9: you had Olympics, you had Wimbledon. You know, it's funny

1026
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 9: because a lot it has been talking about when it

1027
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 9: comes to you know, women's sports, but women's tenants was huge,

1028
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 9: Like I remember watching women's tennis and being captivated by

1029
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 9: women's tennis like that was no there was no like gender,

1030
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 9: there was no culture wars.

1031
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 6: When it came to women's tennis, it was like every

1032
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 6: bit as big as the men's.

1033
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1034
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: Well, and frankly the WNBA, which you know, is something

1035
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: that especially when I was working for years with Sarah

1036
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 2: Spain is passionate about women's sports.

1037
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 3: We covered it a lot, We talked a lot about.

1038
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: It, so like I can honestly say I've been talking

1039
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: about that sport for several years. But that being said,

1040
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: there's now become this great divide even when you try

1041
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: and cover sports that maybe you don't usually cover as much.

1042
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: It becomes a lot like in music, where suddenly somebody says, oh,

1043
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: I love this band before they were popular, all of

1044
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: a sudden, there's this line in the sand between I

1045
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: knew about it then and I covered them when they

1046
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: were an indie band, And that means that I'm a

1047
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: real fan and you're not a real fan.

1048
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: Or I'm a real journalist and you're not.

1049
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: A real journalist, and all these like this pissing match

1050
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: is going on and on and off.

1051
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 9: Yes about that's quite correctly off putting, but I'll be

1052
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 9: honest with you, I'm so put off by all that stuff.

1053
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 6: At full disclosure, I don't have time to watch the

1054
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 6: MBI NBA, Like I just I don't have time. It's

1055
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 6: a sport that I mean, I you know, I have

1056
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 6: nieces that played college basketball. You know.

1057
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 9: I think it's great eight but I'm not captivated by it.

1058
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 9: So I don't watch it. I mean and I and

1059
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 9: I'm tired of being made feel guilty because I don't

1060
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 9: watch it.

1061
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 3: Well, I say this all the time. I don't like golf.

1062
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: You literally, like, my job is to cover sports, and

1063
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: you cannot pay me to sit down and watch golf

1064
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: on TV. I'm not gonna do it, right, So I

1065
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: don't like golf, and it's fine, like you don't. There

1066
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: it's allowed for people to say, yeah, that's not really

1067
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 2: my thing, Okay, move about the cabin you don't.

1068
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 9: Like We talk about the soccer thing, right, and then

1069
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 9: people another thing. People get, oh, you shove soccer down

1070
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 9: my throat. Well, there is I sense the there is

1071
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 9: a lot of interest. Soccer has become closer to the mainstream,

1072
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 9: you know, I mean, I know, but saying that since

1073
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 9: the seventies that soccer is going to become a thing, well,

1074
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 9: no one's ever said, it's going to overtake football, right

1075
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 9: or basketball, But it's you know, it's it's it has

1076
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 9: a niche now like people like to watch it.

1077
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: Like I used to make fun of hockey fans all

1078
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: the time on radio because they would they would just

1079
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: blast me.

1080
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 3: They would blast me for not.

1081
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: Talking enough about it and immediately then presume that that

1082
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: means that I hate the sport. It's like no, actually,

1083
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: by the way, like I'm a massive fan, but like

1084
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: there is an element of to your point, the phrase

1085
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: to appeel behind the curtain, y'all, Like you're coached a

1086
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: lot of times on the concept of play the hits.

1087
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: And this is no different than reason that my my

1088
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 2: transition from sports to or from music to sports made

1089
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: so much sense in my head, because what do you

1090
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: think they do? You know, radio DJs most I don't

1091
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: want to you know, ruin anybody's myth here, but like

1092
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: most DJs don't actually even have control of the music

1093
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: that they play anymore. It's a centrally programmed by clear

1094
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: Channel or whoever. The owner of that station is from

1095
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: a you know, middle of you know, like an office

1096
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 2: in Cleveland. Hey, this national station's gonna play these songs.

1097
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: So the guy or girl is just talking for twenty

1098
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: seconds and pressing play on a predisposed playlist, right, like

1099
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: there's no there is at some point and the reason

1100
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 2: that songs become popular, Like was that really a great

1101
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: song or was it just ingrained in our head because

1102
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: it was played over and over and over again. That's

1103
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 2: the cowboys, Like at this point, the Cowboys are what

1104
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: Britney Spears was in the late nineties, Like it's just

1105
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: on every time you turn it on. So that's just

1106
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: the way life's gonna be. Like, that's just that's it.

1107
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 2: That's the play that hits money.

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00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 9: And you know, and this is where I wanted to

1109
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 9: bring up to you guys, because I had when I

1110
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 9: first got into radio, I left the Philadelphia Enquirer and

1111
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 9: I worked for WIP and there was a legendary program

1112
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 9: director by the name of Tom Bigbie.

1113
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 6: And Tom said, play the hits. Talk Eagles, Eagles, just

1114
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 6: talk Eagles.

1115
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 9: This is like twenty four to seven, three, six sixty five,

1116
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 9: talk Eagles. And I remember saying, man, well, you know,

1117
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 9: listening to Phillies, nobody cares about baseball. Nobody in Philadelphia

1118
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 9: cares about the Phillies. And I used to argue, used

1119
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 9: to drive me nuts, but the Phillies weren't good, not

1120
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Speaker 9: like they're now, or even when they were on the

1121
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 9: you know, a big World Series run where they were

1122
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 9: big in the ratings.

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Speaker 6: This is when they were down. Nobody cares about baseball, No,

1124
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 6: nobody cares about hockey. Like that's that was what the

1125
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 6: guy said to me.

1126
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 9: And you would have he would you know, you would

1127
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 9: get admonished if you spoke those other sports for any

1128
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Speaker 9: prolonged period of time.

1129
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 6: It was. It was unbelievable. And I didn't know.

1130
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: Do I know?

1131
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 9: I was a journalist, right, So I covered every sport

1132
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 9: and I covered the story and I'm all of a sudden,

1133
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 9: I'm in this world. And it's like you got to

1134
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 9: play the hits, just like you just said, and it

1135
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 9: give me flashback.

1136
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: It's funny to me because the two things about it

1137
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: that everybody sometimes forgets Number one TV ratings, for example,

1138
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: are studying down to the second. So if they figure

1139
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: out that when they start talking about something, people stay

1140
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: with it, then they'll talk more about it. If they

1141
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: figure out that the minute they talk about the Jacksonville Jaguars,

1142
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 2: everybody tunes out the next day, they're not going to

1143
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: talk about the jacks.

1144
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 3: That's that's just real.

1145
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: To the way that the day the dailies are done.

1146
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: But the other side of it is, for all of

1147
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: this conversation, I think that there could be a tonal

1148
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: change from fans and from media that are covering. Whether

1149
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: it's hockey, whether it's the NBA, whether it's the w NBA,

1150
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. The tonal change that all that needs to

1151
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: change is a hey, welcome, I'm glad you're new, Welcome,

1152
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: come in, welcome here, We're gonna we're gonna help you

1153
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: cover this Like that's been back to the music analogy.

1154
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 2: If you love the band when nobody else knew who

1155
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: they were, and a new fan walks in, instead of

1156
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: telling them how cool you are and why they shouldn't

1157
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: be there because they haven't covered this band from day one,

1158
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 2: maybe just be like.

1159
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 3: Hey, let me tell you more more about this band.

1160
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 3: Let me help you learn more of their music.

1161
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: Let me help you make sure that you get the

1162
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: full experience out of this band. Like, let me help

1163
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: this band become as profitable as possible. Yes, I love

1164
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 2: what they do and I want them to make a

1165
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: ton of money doing it like that's it's just such

1166
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 2: a mindset change and right now. Part of the reason

1167
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: that some of the coverage falls flat on some of

1168
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: these events is because it's a combination of people don't care,

1169
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 2: in a combination of even if you try to care,

1170
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 2: if you don't care the right way, or you don't

1171
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: say the right thing, or you don't credit what somebody

1172
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: wanted you to credit along the way, you want up

1173
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: in more trouble, and then it's like, man, is it

1174
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: even worth the effort?

1175
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 9: Like that, it's brilliant that you bring that up, because

1176
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 9: when I saw this WNBA stuff and people going say,

1177
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 9: you know, nobody talks about you, and they were killing

1178
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 9: stephen A for it and the whole thing, it's like, seriously,

1179
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 9: like you should be happy people.

1180
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 6: Are finding your sport.

1181
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 9: Who cares how it came by, whether it was Caitlyn

1182
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 9: Clark or somebody else, who cares. The fact is that

1183
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 9: you're getting attention, right, The fact is that people and

1184
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 9: who knows.

1185
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 6: Once you get that attention, maybe people stay with it

1186
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 6: and go, wow, man, this is captivating and look at

1187
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 6: Angel Reese and look at this other player and look

1188
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 6: at and I'm enjoying it, like well, that's that's how

1189
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 6: you build.

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00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 9: Something, not by you know, castigating you know why people

1191
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 9: are coming, or that you haven't been there from the beginning,

1192
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 9: you know, because all it is is a turnoff. Like

1193
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 9: right off the bat, It's like when you see stuff

1194
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 9: like that, you're immediately like going, I'm out all right,

1195
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 9: Like I don't need guff, right The last thing I

1196
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 9: need right now by life is guff from you know, entertainment.

1197
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: Well, and then the other side is like, I'm tired

1198
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: of these conversations about soap opera's like talk about the games?

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00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 3: My god, what do you think these shows do every

1200
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 3: day for every sport?

1201
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: Like when's the last time you turned on a debate

1202
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: show and heard a really smart conversation about the about

1203
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: the game safety?

1204
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 3: You don't like?

1205
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: That's just not like that is the biggest and best

1206
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: coverage you can get is when they're no longer talking

1207
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 2: about anything that happened during the game, They're only talking

1208
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: about the drama around it. That is that is the

1209
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: big time Love it or hate it?

1210
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I that piece of it.

1211
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 9: I mean I understand human nature, you know, and you

1212
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 9: know that's one I'm I mourn a little bit.

1213
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 6: Oh God, yeah, you know.

1214
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 9: I mean it's just if you love sports, like you know,

1215
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 9: I'm live like I love baseball, right, Figgie loves baseball.

1216
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 9: So like we can get into a ten minute conversation

1217
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 9: about you know, pitches and you know, hitting and dive

1218
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 9: into nuance and there's you know, like three people would

1219
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 9: enjoy it, and the audience would go all right, you know,

1220
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 9: give it a rest. Boys. You know, I get it.

1221
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 9: You know what, you're a seamad, you know. You know,

1222
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 9: that's the only thing that I was disappointed. I have

1223
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 9: a buddy of mine I talked to yesterday and he said,

1224
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 9: to me, you're not talking about He said, tell me

1225
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 9: about this new venture.

1226
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 6: You're doing, right, is it's sports.

1227
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 9: I'm like, yeah, it's sports, and journalism twists to it

1228
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 9: and it's heavy sports. He's like, good because I can't

1229
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 9: take the what's your favorite color and the favorite foods

1230
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 9: and movies and you know, on this show we can

1231
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 9: go down any road because we can just have a conversation.

1232
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 9: But the people that like the pure sports, they're not

1233
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 9: a lot of them.

1234
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 6: You know.

1235
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 9: Well that was the biggest misnomer for me, Like when

1236
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 9: I or eye open it. For me, I'm sure when

1237
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 9: you got into when you made the transition from music

1238
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 9: to sports, you're probably thinking, oh, this is awesome. I

1239
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 9: get to talk sports and not drama. And here it

1240
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 9: is you're talking about drama.

1241
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 11: Well.

1242
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: Look, the first day that I ever worked local in Nashville,

1243
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: somebody walked up to me and he said, Hey, let

1244
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: me give you a.

1245
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: Piece of advice.

1246
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: Your job isn't to talk about what you want to

1247
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: talk about. It's to talk about what the broadest set

1248
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: of your audience cares about. That's number one, so you

1249
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: know it lives. Especially at the time being on Nashville radio,

1250
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: that meant Titans, Titan, Titans, right like that.

1251
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 3: I understood the assignment. You know, that was a huge,

1252
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 3: a huge part of it.

1253
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: And I mean, think about how often we all say like, well,

1254
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: that's a good summer radio topic, because that's just become real.

1255
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: And I used to cover watching the draft. I used

1256
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: to yell at the TV every year about fifth, sixth,

1257
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: seventh round picks. So I'm like, you know, give me

1258
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: information on this guy. Don't sit here and tell me

1259
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: what happened in the first round. Informed me. Then I

1260
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: started hosting draft shows and you get to the sixth

1261
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: round and you're like, all right, so the Bears took

1262
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: this guy nobody's ever heard of. Let's go back and

1263
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: talk about Caleb Williams and Roma Dunes again. Like that's

1264
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: just that's the way the business works.

1265
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, and sometimes I feel bit about that. Yeah, me too,

1266
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 9: me too, fake hot about.

1267
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 4: You someone who I grew up well listening to sports

1268
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: talk radio, and it's like infancy days.

1269
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 5: It was a lot of that.

1270
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 4: It was a lot of x's and o's and strategic

1271
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 4: talk and talking about specific games and players. But to

1272
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 4: your point, it's gotten further and further away from that.

1273
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 4: And look, I'm part of the machine as well. I

1274
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 4: understand how it goes. I'm disappointed that it's gone so

1275
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 4: far in this direction. And then now what you have,

1276
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 4: it's for further splintering the market because if that's something

1277
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 4: that you want, you can find it. I mean, guy,

1278
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 4: there's trillions of podcasts. I might be exaggerating, but it

1279
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 4: seems like there's podcasts left and right. Yeah with you know,

1280
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 4: but certain niche content. There's probably a podcast that talk

1281
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 4: specifically about the Baltimore Ravens defensive backs and nothing else.

1282
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,959
Speaker 4: Like you can find a podcast and talk about whatever

1283
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 4: you want, and so the markets are kind of splintered

1284
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 4: when talking about You can find a good conversation point

1285
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 4: or a subject matter wherever you want, but you go

1286
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 4: on too larger mediums like the one that we're on now.

1287
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 5: You know, people don't want to hear the brass tacks.

1288
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 4: To your point, Anthony, if we were to sit here

1289
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 4: and talk about pitching stats for ten minutes, a lot

1290
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 4: of people would tune out. They'd rather us talk about,

1291
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: you know, whether or not showy old tiny was gambling

1292
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 4: with his buddy.

1293
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what.

1294
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 4: That's what these This format has kind of lend itself

1295
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 4: to uh him, I'd say, over the last decade or so.

1296
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, all right, we gonna take quick TL. We'll

1297
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 9: come right back. Fellas, hang it right here. Fox Sports

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01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:27,160
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01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,200
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01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,760
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01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 9: and review the podcast again. Just search Fox Sports Ready

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Speaker 9: wherever you get your podcasts. You'll see this one posted

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Speaker 9: right after we get off the air, Jason fitz Kevin figures,

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01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 9: I'm Anthony Gargana. So we hang out fellas every week

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01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 9: and we give this discussion about you know, the NHL,

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01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 9: and we started to get into kind of where you know,

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Speaker 9: the ancillary. Like Fitzy, you nailed it about the summer period,

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01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 9: Like the summer period is when we got you know,

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Speaker 9: introduced to you know, the ND five hundred, right, and

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Speaker 9: then the Masters and US Open and Tennis and Wimbledon

1314
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 9: and the Olympics, like they were always like that was

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Speaker 9: always the period of time where the other sports you know,

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01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 9: had it had a moment, right like you know, and

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Speaker 9: all you're kind of looking for from as a hockey fan,

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Speaker 9: it's just give me my moment. Just you know, we're

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Speaker 9: crowded a champion, you know, Can I get my Can

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Speaker 9: I get my love?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think that's a big part of it is I

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Speaker 2: can I get my love? Because when you love any

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01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: particular sport, you feel like the whole world should love

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01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 2: it that much, right, they should love it the same.

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01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: And that's not necessarily the real of it. I think

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01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 2: there's a weird world where, especially because podcasts have become

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Speaker 2: such a huge part of society they really have, you know,

1329
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: and your ability to just churn out content around whatever

1330
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 2: you want. Like for me, as a Raiders fan, I

1331
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: can now make a decision do I want to listen

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01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: to a Raiders specific podcast? Do I want to listen

1333
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: to a national show that may or may not have

1334
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: watched as much, you know, but may have a better

1335
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to say it better, but

1336
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: may have a more established brain that I like on it,

1337
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So it becomes a little bit.

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01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: Of a trap, like because so many of the things

1340
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 2: that are just sports specific, you got to kind of

1341
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 2: hunt through.

1342
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Speaker 3: You gotta find what you like.

1343
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: And unfortunately I've always said this, like going to streaming

1344
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: services is a little like walking into a library and saying,

1345
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: I want a book.

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01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 3: Okay, well there's thousands of books. What kind of book

1347
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 3: do you want? Then you got to come through it.

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Speaker 2: Then you got to find it. Like, there's so much

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01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: content out there. But the thing of it is, as

1350
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 2: there gets to be more content that is specific to

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01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: you know, Hey, this is just for diehard hockey fans,

1352
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: just for diehard you know, hoopers, This is just for

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01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: diehard fans of this one team. As more and more

1354
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 2: of that exists than that means general media has to

1355
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: be more general to try and continue to get the

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Speaker 2: rest of the audience drawn in.

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Speaker 3: It's just unfortunate because how do you find and.

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01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: Again, I'll use the music analogy right now without regular

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Speaker 2: radio dominating, and.

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Speaker 3: It no longer does.

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01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: Right in a world where Spotify gives me, you know,

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01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: playlists and Apple Music gives me recommendations, Really, how do

1363
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: I just find a new song?

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01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 3: Like it used to be radio could make hits.

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Speaker 2: I believe that sports TV in general, ESPN and Fox

1366
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: both used to be able to make fans because maybe

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01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 2: you wouldn't usually check out Wimbledon, but hell, there's nothing

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01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: else on and it's getting featured on all these channels.

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Speaker 3: I'll watch it, like, come on, let's give it a shot.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you even find that anymore, because

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01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: now so much of the content is geared towards you

1372
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Speaker 2: like this, I'll give you this.

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Speaker 3: Where do you discover new things? I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's a great point. Fake you got any thoughts

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Speaker 6: on that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, and I still think there's a smaller

1377
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Speaker 4: element of that, but even more so, you know, the

1378
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Speaker 4: the highlight shows. You know, looking forward to the six

1379
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 4: o'clock Sports Center. Back in the day was appointment viewing

1380
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Speaker 4: for a lot of things and catch you up on

1381
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 4: everything that's most important in the sports world. A lot

1382
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Speaker 4: of that, there's still some of it, but a lot

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Speaker 4: of it's been replaced by the talking heads and the

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Speaker 4: debate shows, and the debate shows are going to talk

1385
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Speaker 4: about to you, guys's point, there's been so much market

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Speaker 4: research and so many granular looks at the rating numbers

1387
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Speaker 4: and seeing what do people watch and what do they

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Speaker 4: tune out for, and if they want to tune in

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Speaker 4: for Dallas Cowboys, Lebron James and NFL in general, and

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Speaker 4: anything else they don't want to talk about or they

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01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 4: don't want to hear you talk about. So if people

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01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 4: are wondering and we are really getting inside baseball and

1393
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 4: this pulling back the curtain, but whatever, I don't care.

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Speaker 4: That's the reason why if you are a watcher, an

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01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 4: avid watcher of these said shows, and if it seems

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Speaker 4: like that's all they ever talk about, it is all

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Speaker 4: they ever talk about, because the numbers say this is

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01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 4: what people are watching, and this is what they care about.

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Speaker 4: So it's more or less about paying respect to the

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Speaker 4: individual sports, whether it's tennis or hockey or whatever, giving

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01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 4: them their due, you know, to the service time as

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Speaker 4: far as airtime and exposure and more about I want

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01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 4: to keep as many eyeballs on my product as I

1404
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Speaker 4: possibly can.

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Speaker 5: What is the best way to do that?

1406
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 4: And if it's playing, if it's talking about the same

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Speaker 4: thing five different ways, five days in a row, and

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Speaker 4: darn it, that's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 5: And that's what it's turned into. It's unfortunate.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of it, but I from a

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Speaker 4: business standpoint, I understand it.

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Speaker 2: I mean they always ask me when I do a

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Speaker 2: weekly hit with the with the radio station in Nashville

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Speaker 2: that I got my start on.

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Speaker 3: I got asked a.

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Speaker 2: Couple of years ago, why does ESPN hate the Titans?

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Speaker 2: Was the conversation, and I said, they don't. They don't

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Speaker 2: hate them.

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Speaker 5: They're in different no, so they don't care about the Titans.

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Speaker 2: There isn't love or hate for most teams from the

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Speaker 2: bosses in Bristol isn't. What there is is love of money.

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Speaker 2: And so it's like, all right, well, people are watching,

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Speaker 2: people will listen to us.

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Speaker 3: Talk about this.

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01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk about it, like find a way

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Speaker 2: to talk more, like what's the good Cowboys angle today?

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01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 3: Like that's real because at the end of the day, not.

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Speaker 2: Enough people will gravitate towards listening to fifteen minutes of

1429
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: talk about the Titans Jags game. So you do two

1430
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 2: minutes on the Titans Jags and then you get back

1431
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: to Dak's contract.

1432
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 3: Like that's all. That's all studied and not for nothing.

1433
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 2: Look at the numbers that PR keeps putting out on

1434
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: sports media in general, the numbers are up all the way.

1435
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Speaker 2: Doing that is made numbers better. I believe that there

1436
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: would be rooms someday for in a world. I believe

1437
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Speaker 2: that there'd be room for somebody to start at ESPN five.

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01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 3: I don't care a Fox Sports six.

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: That gives us the opportunity to really say, hey, this

1440
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 2: is your channel for all the deep dive stuff. I

1441
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: believe there's room for that. But you know, in general,

1442
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: the general market just doesn't crave it.

1443
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 4: M do you know when all not to jump you there,

1444
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 4: but you know, one of the lowest rated shows on

1445
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 4: ESPN is NFL Matchup yep, and I love that show.

1446
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 5: It's phenomenal. They go deep into the tape.

1447
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 4: You know, Greg, you know Cosell does a phenomenal job

1448
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 4: producing and hosting on that show as an analyst, and

1449
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 4: it people don't watch. And that's a perfect example of

1450
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 4: the stuff we've been talking about as far as like

1451
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 4: getting granular looking at film, talking about actual matchups and

1452
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 4: the actual game in and of itself, independent of any

1453
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 4: of the drama and who said what in the quote

1454
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 4: in the newspaper. None of that stuff matters on that show,

1455
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 4: and yet it doesn't get the sort of viewership that

1456
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 4: I think fans would assume.

1457
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:41,879
Speaker 5: That it actually gets.

1458
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1459
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Speaker 2: And by the way, I think the fact that that

1460
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 2: is seeped into all of culture is a big part

1461
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,839
Speaker 2: of why our news and political coverage has gotten.

1462
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 3: No longer.

1463
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 2: Like y'all, it's no longer about the issues. It's about

1464
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: the ratings, and they know what's going to get the ratings,

1465
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 2: so they talk about what's going to get the ratings,

1466
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 2: which is why both of the news networks have gotten

1467
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 2: such rating bumps during certain campaigns. Because I'm not getting political,

1468
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like the way that news is covered

1469
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: now is no longer at all.

1470
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 3: Even attempting to dude you just it's funny.

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01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 6: I was about to say the same thing that it's trance.

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01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 9: It's it's now into it begins in news, Like think

1473
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 9: about a newscast when we were younger growing up, it

1474
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 9: was like completely you know, it was completely different, and

1475
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 9: now it's it's the same thing. It's it's Trump Biden, right,

1476
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 9: and then it's whatever salacious story.

1477
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 4: The news and oh yeah, here's the story. Now here's

1478
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 4: two people to argue about it. Yeah, every time.

1479
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it won't take a lot of math for

1480
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: people to figure this out.

1481
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 3: I have a.

1482
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 2: Friend I won't throw them, I won't throw this under

1483
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: the bus. But I have a friend that worked for

1484
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 2: a long time at ESPN that no works for a

1485
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: major news network. And when he went over there, I

1486
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 2: asked him, I'm like, how is it, and he said, man,

1487
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: it's not really any different.

1488
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 3: It's the same.

1489
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 2: The subject matters a little different, but the approach is

1490
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 2: the exact same. Like the approach to the way sports

1491
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 2: are covered is the exact same to the way the

1492
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: approach for the way politics are covered right now, right.

1493
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:25,799
Speaker 3: Right or wrong?

1494
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: That's just real And so for all of my friends,

1495
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: because again I'm not a politically charged person. But as

1496
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: I sat around and listened to everybody give their conspiracy

1497
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: theories one night recently in Nashville, everybody who's given their

1498
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories on, well, this network's trying to do this

1499
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: and make people do this, And I just told everybody,

1500
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 2: I was like, man, y'all have gone down the rabbit

1501
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: hole of over complicating it. Both networks are doing one thing,

1502
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 2: which is attempting to keep viewers longer to make more money.

1503
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 2: And they do that by talking about certain subjects from

1504
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: a certain angle. And as long as they do that,

1505
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: y'all will keep watching. And as long as you keep watching,

1506
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 2: they're making money. And that's all they care about it.

1507
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 9: And the reason why they went and the reason why

1508
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 9: they went with a particular slant is because the studies

1509
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 9: show that, you know, like minded individuals are gonna want

1510
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 9: to watch their slant, like you're gonna want to watch

1511
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 9: the through the lens where you agree with right, Like

1512
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 9: that's just the bottom line, you're you know, this is

1513
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 9: how human beings are wired.

1514
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 3: All the way back to uh missing famous cases.

1515
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 2: I think it was the jump in a Ramsey case,

1516
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: a famous obviously murder case from years ago. One of

1517
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: the guests that was on a major news network at

1518
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: the time talking about it wasn't giving the you know,

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01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: sort of the approach that everybody wanted to their parents

1520
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 2: did whatever it was, and they noticed the network noticed

1521
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: that the ratings were changing when that guest was on.

1522
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: Nobody liked them, so that guest stopped being booked, and

1523
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 2: that that's a very true, real story of well, here's

1524
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 2: the thing.

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01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 3: That's a perspective, but that's not the perspective.

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01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: People want to hang out and watch longer, so we

1527
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 2: want more of the perspective that will.

1528
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 3: Get more rate Like, oh, it's about money. I'm not

1529
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 3: even being physical, like it's about money.

1530
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 2: The reason when you're making a record, the reason that

1531
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 2: if you're in the studio, there is a point in time,

1532
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: or was a point in time where the record label

1533
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 2: will come in after like three or four songs and

1534
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 2: they would say, you know what this record is done,

1535
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 2: And what they're telling you is you can put whatever

1536
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 2: you want on the rest of the record because they've

1537
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: found their three or four singles. They don't care about

1538
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 2: the rest of the songs, and once you hit a

1539
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: certain sales cap, they stop promoting that record and they

1540
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 2: go to the next one. So they're literally so it's

1541
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: not like some weird it's all about the money. So

1542
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: if you listen to a record that has three good

1543
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 2: songs and seven bad ones, it's because they figured out

1544
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: they got the three ones that will make them the

1545
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: money and then they move forward. Like society is just

1546
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: about who gets paid and where they get paid. It's

1547
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: not even a bad thing. It's just a thing.

1548
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 9: However, However, I gotta say that though, it's not good

1549
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 9: if your news, if your journalism is all based off

1550
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 9: of what can make the most, you know, generate the

1551
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 9: most revenue, that's not good for society.

1552
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: That's not good for an educated society. You are right,

1553
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 2: and you are right.

1554
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 6: That's a huge problem problem we're dealing with right now.

1555
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 5: That's where the term fake news comes from.

1556
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm gonna say whatever needs to be said

1557
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 4: or that take whatever this story is and framing how

1558
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 4: I need to frame it to get the most people

1559
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 4: to say you're an idiot or say yeah, that's right,

1560
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 4: that's why the other people are And that's what it

1561
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 4: gets away from the actual topic in and of itself.

1562
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 4: And now we're talking about the perspective on the topic

1563
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,919
Speaker 4: and that in and of itself becomes the news.

1564
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: Well, way way back in the day, there was a

1565
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 2: car race between USA and Russia, and this is like,

1566
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 2: this is back in the communist era. This is like

1567
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: talking like back in the original right, And it was

1568
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 2: just the two of them and the USA car from Ford.

1569
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: I believe it was won the race. And the next

1570
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 2: day in the American papers the headline said USA wins

1571
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: beats Russia. The next day in the Russian papers it

1572
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 2: said USA finished second to last, Russians finished and second.

1573
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 3: Same thing. You're saying the same thing, And.

1574
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: I tell that story all the time because like that

1575
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: is a powerful reminder that you can tell the same story.

1576
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: You just it's just the spin you want to put

1577
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: on the same information. And you're right, we've become a

1578
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:17,959
Speaker 2: spin based society.

1579
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 9: And that, for an education standpoint, is the worst thing

1580
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 9: in the world.

1581
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 6: But the worst thing in the world is.

1582
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 9: Like not like we should be exposed to other sports, right,

1583
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 9: even though it may not get the ratings right, Like

1584
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 9: we should be. It's good to expose people to different

1585
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 9: opinions that are educated, just facts. Not everything needs to

1586
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 9: be an argument. Not everything needs to be uh, you know,

1587
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,440
Speaker 9: I mean, you wonder why politically forget about the politics,

1588
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 9: but let's just call the way it is if you

1589
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 9: have just take George W Right and where he is,

1590
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,919
Speaker 9: and when it comes to left right, you got George

1591
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 9: w and Obama are closer than you know to what

1592
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 9: their prospective parties were today their opposite parties right like

1593
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 9: in there in the beliefs, because we have moved a

1594
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 9: society to pull the rot to the to the polls.

1595
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 5: Extremely radicalize on both sides for sure.

1596
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 9: Which close, which is horrible, And and then and then

1597
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 9: it just depicts this picture of everybody at each other's

1598
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 9: throats when in reality it's just distorted nonsense.

1599
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, think about this.

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01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: If I say, if I say, man, Alabama is good,

1601
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: how many people are gonna call in or text or

1602
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: tweet this show and be like why do you hate Alburn?

1603
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: Like that's just the way. That's the way society takes.

1604
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: Everything has to be about an argument. Now there's no nuance.

1605
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 6: None none, and and the and the are and and

1606
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 6: every you know like and and everything needs to be

1607
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 6: you know, super charged opinion when you know sometimes you

1608
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 6: know there's a gray area and you can't speak in

1609
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 6: grays or else you're labeled, you know, you're a non

1610
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 6: believer or someone that's sitting on the fence.

1611
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 4: Or sometimes there's this actual facts and there's not someone

1612
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 4: saying like, well, they're telling you these are the facts,

1613
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 4: but they twisted it.

1614
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 5: And here's why.

1615
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 6: Sometimes it is what it is that becomes the tower

1616
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 6: of Babbel. And that's our biggest issue.

1617
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 9: Where the fellas will come right back right here in

1618
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 9: Fox Sports Radio. Fellas hanging from the Tiraq dot com studios.

1619
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 9: Jason fitz Kevin figures. I'm Anthony Gargana, big discussion. It

1620
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 9: all started with hockey and h we somehow stumbled onto

1621
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 9: uh death of journalism all do the hockey.

1622
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this though, not that you've even

1623
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 2: had time to set it up, but let me ask

1624
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 2: you this. Do you think people really want journalism anymore?

1625
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 2: I'm not asking what they need, because this is something

1626
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 2: to deal with it.

1627
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 6: Do I think they want it? No? I don't think

1628
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 6: they want it.

1629
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 9: Journalists have always been unpopular, right because they've ever either exposed,

1630
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 9: you know, stuff that goes on or you know, the

1631
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 9: journalist has always been the messenger, right, and the messenger

1632
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 9: never is popular.

1633
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 6: So no, do I think they want it? No, But

1634
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 6: do I think they need it desperately? I?

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01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 3: Well, I agree with that.

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01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: The funny thing for me in the sports world, I

1637
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 2: wear my Raiders phantom on my sleeve, as you guys

1638
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 2: have known since day one, and every week I do

1639
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 2: interviews with the Raider Nation radio station and their podcast.

1640
01:17:58,200 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 2: I do a lot of work with my favorite team,

1641
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 2: which is such a to me, such an honor to

1642
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 2: get to do. I've always considered myself a fairly reasonable fan,

1643
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 2: and most years I've been pretty close on where I

1644
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 2: think the team's gonna be. The funny thing to me

1645
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 2: is inevitably this year when, because this is what happens

1646
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 2: every year in the summer, I'll go on the station

1647
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 2: and'll ask me what I think the real ceiling for

1648
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 2: this team is. I feel like the Raiders this year

1649
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 2: are probably a seven win football team. If everything kind

1650
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 2: of breaks right, that just kind of feels seven, maybe

1651
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: eight if if you're having a luxury year, kind of

1652
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 2: feels like where they land.

1653
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 3: To me, I will.

1654
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 2: Get destroyed when I say that by Raiders fans. They

1655
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 2: will then tell me that I'm you know what that

1656
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 2: is not that I have no idea what I'm talking about,

1657
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 2: and that I'm not positive enough, then inevitably, as the

1658
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 2: season goes on, because they haven't actually underperformed to my expectation,

1659
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 2: has been kind of what I expected. I'm not going

1660
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: to be freaking out if the team turns out to

1661
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 2: be a seven or eight win team, which will then

1662
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 2: cause the same group of fans to come back and

1663
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 2: yell at me for not being critical enough of the team. Like,

1664
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 2: what we really want is sports fans now, and this

1665
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: is different. Like I grew open an era where I

1666
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 2: was watching and I wanted people to tell me the

1667
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 2: why and the how from my favorite team. Now, all

1668
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 2: people want is reinforcement. So if somebody listening right now

1669
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 2: is a huge MAVs fan, all they want is reinforcement

1670
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 2: of what they think is going to happen in this

1671
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: MAVs Celtics series.

1672
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 3: They don't want any blowback on this.

1673
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 2: They don't want any thought process on this, they don't

1674
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: want any expansion on it. If we're talking to NFL previews,

1675
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: when we do that over the course of the summer,

1676
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 2: fans don't want to really hear what we think. Fans

1677
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 2: or even educated opinions, whether they think we're educated or

1678
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: not many fans out there. The majority of fans listening

1679
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 2: now just want their opinions reinforced, which means they want

1680
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 2: to be positive when they feel positive, and they want

1681
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 2: you to be apoplectic when they feel negative. It's a

1682
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: very weird spot to be and that people don't really

1683
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: want insight to Hey, it's not that bad, or maybe

1684
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,480
Speaker 2: it's not that good.

1685
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 9: You're spot on. And the other thing that's wordsome is

1686
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 9: there is two angles to go when you get into journalism, right.

1687
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 9: You are either full about.

1688
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 6: News and you know, covering the news.

1689
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 9: And I like the other aspect of it, which is storytelling.

1690
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 6: But I don't even know that people want storytelling anymore.

1691
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 9: I love storytelling and that's what I go why I

1692
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:16,839
Speaker 9: got into this business.

1693
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 6: But I don't even know if they want that.

1694
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 3: Not unless you can do it in thirty seconds or less. Brother, Like, yeah, nobody.

1695
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 6: Wants a long form no, And I would start with fine,

1696
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 6: That's what I did. I wrote five thousand word pieces

1697
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 6: on Sunday on Sundays, you know, and I loved it

1698
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 6: like I would craft. You know.

1699
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 9: It would take me three days to write a piece

1700
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 9: anyway where the fellas right here? Fox Sports Radio back

1701
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 9: in a moment.

1702
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 6: All right, that's us. Good morning, good morning, Good morning,

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Speaker 6: Jason fitz Kevin Figures. I'm Anthony Gargana much and Ian

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Speaker 6: our producers as we hang out from the ti Rac dot.

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Speaker 6: That wa tire by should be.

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Speaker 9: As we hang out June eighth, I was just talking

1711
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 9: to h Adam Schefter from the ESPN and buddy of mine.

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01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 9: So yesterday we were just kind of putting a bow

1713
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 9: on it. Mini camps over and this is it the

1714
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 9: summer vacation in the NFL world, And then it becomes right,

1715
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 9: and then we just got it's the basically training camp

1716
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 9: and it's on. So this is it, this is it.

1717
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 9: This is the low period where there's no football. We

1718
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 9: talked a lot about the NBA and Boston Celtics, uh,

1719
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 9: NHL kind of all over the place. We're kind of

1720
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 9: getting involved little baseball as we hang out on this

1721
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 9: Saturday morning. But guys, let me let me bring this

1722
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 9: up to you, just curious when it comes to football

1723
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 9: and this this period. It is interesting because I know

1724
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 9: about you, but I now I have a million questions.

1725
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 9: This is when I miss it probably the most right

1726
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 9: about now, because it's it's still we're still a good

1727
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 9: six weeks from training.

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01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 6: Camp, you know, and then uh and then.

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01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 9: A couple you know, and then really once training camp

1730
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 9: hits here, like I really got to.

1731
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 6: Get to this season. When do you miss it the most?

1732
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: For me, it's always the very beginning of July, because

1733
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 2: like I feel like the NBA Finals always provides a distraction,

1734
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: so you know, you get through the end, Like I

1735
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: want this this final series to go seven games because

1736
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 2: it just extends everything while I'm waiting, you know. It's

1737
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 2: like that's all I feel until we get to around

1738
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 2: the fourth of July and then those three weeks or

1739
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: so getting into mini camps that month July is the worst,

1740
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 2: right for all of that because you're just sitting there waiting.

1741
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 9: That's why the hot dog thing was so big, know,

1742
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 9: all of those real sports and so.

1743
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 2: You know, and look, I want baseball to take over

1744
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 2: July and it to be this captivating thing. But it

1745
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 2: just doesn't right. So Baseball's there, it's nice, it's fine.

1746
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 2: It's like elevator music. You're fine with it in the background,

1747
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 2: but people aren't flocking to it for the month of July.

1748
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: I feel like July is the month that everybody just

1749
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 2: sort of tries to refresh their brains. I definitely at

1750
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,759
Speaker 2: the beginning of July, it's like every day is watching

1751
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 2: paint dry. It just takes forever to get through that

1752
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:48,799
Speaker 2: month to get to football.

1753
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 4: How about you, fig So, And I believe I brought

1754
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 4: this up with Anty in the past. I actually take

1755
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 4: it upon myself to sort of detach. Not that I'm

1756
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,839
Speaker 4: a player. I would never compare myself to the players

1757
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 4: in the NFL, but I mean I allow myself to

1758
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 4: miss it by not thinking about it, to be honest.

1759
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 4: So I try to wrap myself into Major League Baseball

1760
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 4: or if there are other things going on, if the

1761
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 4: Olympics pop up in late July going into August or

1762
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 4: something like that. So I try to have that bs

1763
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 4: out of sight, out of mind, like the mini camps.

1764
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 4: Guys running around in helmets and shells and not making

1765
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 4: any contact, to be honest, does nothing for me right now.

1766
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 4: Not a darn thing, so not really wrapped up in it.

1767
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 4: I keep up with what's going on. I understand the stories,

1768
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 4: can out contract talks.

1769
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,879
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I was going to say, like a news.

1770
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 4: Stamp shore, No, you gotta stay on top of that

1771
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,759
Speaker 4: sort of stuff. Absolutely, But from the pure football aspect

1772
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 4: of it, as far as me missing football, yeah, I

1773
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 4: don't really miss it. I honestly probably miss it probably

1774
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 4: week two of the preseason because at that point in time,

1775
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 4: guys are actually, you know, somewhat playing, and it's like,

1776
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 4: all right, can we actually get the real thing started now?

1777
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 4: Because even the start of training camp is you're in pads.

1778
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 4: We're not in pads, were in a round, we're hitting

1779
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 4: the We read the training camp reports that this fourth

1780
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 4: stream corner got burned by this number one receiver. Well

1781
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 4: that was gonna happen anyway. So the monotony of that

1782
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 4: stuff doesn't do much for me.

1783
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: Does it change though, this year because you're also a

1784
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 2: Raiders fan and there's a there's a quarterback competition that's

1785
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 2: very real. Does that does that influence any Because for me,

1786
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm interested in mini camp. I want to see who's

1787
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 2: getting the reps. I want to see how the quarterbacks look.

1788
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 2: You don't have a quarterback, you can't win in this league.

1789
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm less interested in the mini camp aspect

1790
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 4: of it. I'm more concerned when it comes to full

1791
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 4: team drills, when it comes to training camp. From that standpoint, fits,

1792
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 4: So you're right if, knowing that I have some mistake

1793
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 4: in the game, that my team actually has an open

1794
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 4: competition at the most important position, Yeah, I'm absolutely intrigued

1795
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 4: and maybe want to watch preseason games a little more

1796
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 4: closely than I normally would if I knew that I

1797
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 4: had a more established starter. So from that standpoint, then yeah,

1798
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 4: I'd be a lot more interested in it. But generally speaking,

1799
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 4: just missing football, I really don't.

1800
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1801
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 4: I allow myself to be able to detach, so by

1802
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 4: the time August September rolls around, I can actually say, Wow, Okay,

1803
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 4: football is back.

1804
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 5: Now let's get let's get into it. But I'm not.

1805
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 4: I don't sit around and stress about it not being here.

1806
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 4: I just accept the fact that it's not here, and

1807
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 4: I find something else to do with my time.

1808
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 9: You know, that's a very healthy way of looking at things. Yeah,

1809
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 9: I wish I could have had the same way.

1810
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 6: I understand it.

1811
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 5: And I get it.

1812
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 4: Football is it's it's it's a pretty it's a very

1813
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 4: big important part of all of our lives.

1814
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 5: Trust me, I understand. I get it.

1815
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, and then you realize and I guess fits he

1816
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 9: said this, and again I love the other sports, right,

1817
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 9: so you know what the what the issue is, and

1818
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 9: the issue is it's I don't know if it's a

1819
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 9: competition thing, but once you have the here's what football does.

1820
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:49,959
Speaker 6: It heightens your senses.

1821
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 9: Right, So every night there is a every day, like

1822
01:26:55,680 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 9: every week, there is a game that matters, like it

1823
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 9: just matters, and it's that adrenaline. And I don't know

1824
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 9: if that's the that's the reason why whereas you know

1825
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 9: these like I love baseball, but you know it becomes

1826
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 9: monoton this in.

1827
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 5: July, yeah, the doll days of summer. I'll come in.

1828
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1829
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 5: Sure, But there's also.

1830
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: A national because of the amount of love to the NFL.

1831
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: It feels like you're just wrapped up in this blanket

1832
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 2: of fandom with everybody else.

1833
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 3: When the NFL season hits.

1834
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 2: Like Thursday night, football's trash games and we still talk

1835
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 2: about it all day because everybody's just excited to have

1836
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 2: a football game on, and every sports bar you go into,

1837
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 2: it's gonna have one thing on and everybody's gonna be

1838
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 2: watching that one thing. It's not like walking in during

1839
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 2: July where there might be six baseball games going on

1840
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 2: and then four replays of something. They don't even know

1841
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: what's live and what's not live, Like what's the energy,

1842
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: what's the vibe? You know that if you walk into

1843
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 2: a Buffalo Wild Wings in the middle of July, you

1844
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 2: know it's gonna be kind of quiet. You walk in

1845
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 2: on a Thursday night in September, you know what's going

1846
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: to be on those screens that. It's just such a

1847
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 2: different society plays in all of that too.

1848
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 4: Well, even the league and the interest around it is

1849
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 4: different now than even you know, twenty years ago, because

1850
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 4: every single solitary offseason event surrounding the league has turned

1851
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 4: into this massive media storm. I mean the combine, the draft,

1852
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 4: we're just talking about mini camps, I mean, at the

1853
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 4: schedule release. So you have all that, you have just

1854
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 4: a deluge of things that happened from the Super Bowls

1855
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 4: played in February. You transitioned out of that to the

1856
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl, and out of the Senior Bowl to it

1857
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 4: just rolls on and then by the time you get

1858
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 4: to June July, there's nothing else left in the off

1859
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 4: season but for gods to just disappear for a month.

1860
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 4: And I think that's why a lot of people feel

1861
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,600
Speaker 4: like a bit of withdrawals. It's like there's gotta be

1862
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 4: something in the NFL going on right, right somewhere, right somewhere. Yeah, no, nothing.

1863
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a good point because and maybe that's kind

1864
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 9: of what you know, like I'm feeling right now.

1865
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 4: Right, that's what it is, because you know, there's really

1866
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 4: nothing you know of substance, at least not positively that's

1867
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 4: gonna happen basically between now and you know, July twenty

1868
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 4: eighth or whenever camp's open.

1869
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,719
Speaker 6: Hmm. Yeah, No, it's a it's a great point.

1870
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 9: And the other the other piece of it, too, is

1871
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 9: the national element. Like Fitzi's right, Like we could talk

1872
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 9: like it's a bad football game. It could be you know,

1873
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 9: I don't know, just true middling teams, and we'll talk

1874
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 9: about it on Friday like like like this water it's

1875
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 9: water cooler talk on Friday when and I guess it's

1876
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 9: because every it's the only thing we have that's communal

1877
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,799
Speaker 9: that's happening, and we don't watch all the sports. And

1878
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 9: you know, truthfully, Boston, you know, Celtics, Mavericks. You know,

1879
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 9: despite the you know, multi billion dollar TV deal the

1880
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 9: NBA got, it doesn't really it doesn't resonate with everyone.

1881
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 2: That's you mentioned that multi billion dollar TV deal. I

1882
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:06,839
Speaker 2: said this earlier, but seventy six billion dollars according to reports.

1883
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 3: Charles Robinson on Yahoo.

1884
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 2: This Week said that, you know, that's going to be

1885
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 2: reason enough for the NFL to go back to the

1886
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 2: drawing board. They have an opt out in their CBA

1887
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 2: or I should say, in their TV deals. They have

1888
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 2: an opt out in twenty twenty six that lets them

1889
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 2: renegotiate the TV deals.

1890
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 3: That money's going to be landmark.

1891
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 2: You want to talk about landmark change coming to the NFL.

1892
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 2: The estimations from some league insiders is that the salary

1893
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,759
Speaker 2: cap is going to be roughly three hundred and fifty

1894
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: million dollars in that range in twenty twenty six. Three

1895
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty for point of reference, In twenty sixteen,

1896
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 2: the salary cap was one hundred and fifty five million dollars.

1897
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 2: So your three players taking up forty percent of your

1898
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,480
Speaker 2: cap will be eating what an entire cap.

1899
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 3: Was less than six years.

1900
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 2: Like, it's crazy to think about in a ten year difference,

1901
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 2: how much more money's coming out because the NBA is

1902
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,080
Speaker 2: making all this money. The NBA TV deal is going

1903
01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 2: to change the NFL and roster construction as wild.

1904
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's completely it's at at it's crazy, right, like whatever,

1905
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 9: it's what demands. The interesting thing is, And I was

1906
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:17,560
Speaker 9: having this conversation with someone like, how do you quantify

1907
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 9: whether you're it's worth it for a streamer that's not

1908
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 9: ad based, Like looks you're a network. You're going to

1909
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 9: sell the time and it is what it is, right,

1910
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 9: like the advertising piece of.

1911
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 6: It, But how do you like, is it really worth it?

1912
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 6: Like I is the question?

1913
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I have this.

1914
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 2: This is a real struggle for me every single year

1915
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 2: and especially this year. Like, look, it's a glorious part

1916
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 2: of my job that I have to watch every NFL game.

1917
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 2: That is a glorious part of my job. Well, one

1918
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 2: of the things that one of the most important responsibilities

1919
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, who is a Sunday night show that

1920
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 2: I tape that reacts with Frank Schwabam and we react

1921
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 2: to literally every game, and it's we tape it as

1922
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 2: soon as the Sunday night game ends and it goes

1923
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 2: up as a pod on Monday, so we have to

1924
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 2: watch every game. And this becomes a great debate for

1925
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 2: me because I always buy Sunday ticket, of course, but man,

1926
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 2: like the vibe sitting at home alone all day watching

1927
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 2: football is not as fun as the vibe being out.

1928
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: And it's gotten to the point where I'm not sure

1929
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 2: it's even cost effective anymore to turn around, because Yahoo

1930
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 2: did the breakdown and if you wanted to watch every

1931
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 2: single game only by these services you need for the

1932
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 2: time that you need, it's eight.

1933
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty bucks.

1934
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 2: Well, for less than eight hundred and fifty bucks, I

1935
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 2: can go sit in a bar every Sunday, like I

1936
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 2: have to take my laptop with me, but at least

1937
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 2: I'll be sitting in a bar where there's like a

1938
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 2: vibe and energy and people cheered around me. And sometimes

1939
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 2: that's actually you hear a bunch of people cheer. You

1940
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 2: look over you like, oh man, something happened to the

1941
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 2: Browns game. You gotta check that out, you know, like

1942
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,600
Speaker 2: I wonder you know, Frank watches every week from a

1943
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 2: sports bar, and I'm sitting there saying that's actually more

1944
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Speaker 2: economically feasible. At this point, I think we're at the

1945
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Speaker 2: point of no return with the cost of Sunday ticket

1946
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Speaker 2: and then Peacock for those games that you need and

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Speaker 2: ESPN plus for those games.

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Speaker 6: Well, how about the reversal, Right, And that's a fascinating

1949
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Speaker 6: point that you bring up. And how about the.

1950
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Speaker 9: Reversal, which is is the are they going to get

1951
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Speaker 9: Are these streamers and these networks going to get a

1952
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Speaker 9: positive return on that investment With the NBA.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't imagine they did well. I mean the

1954
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Speaker 2: networks will because they sell the ad time. Like, the

1955
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Speaker 2: hardest part about all this is because ninety seven of

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Speaker 2: the top hundred events were sports. Ad sponsors are paying

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Speaker 2: Coke is going to be more than ever to get

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Speaker 2: a thirty second ad in a sporting event. I don't

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Speaker 2: care if it's cricket, I don't care if it's soccer,

1960
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Speaker 2: I don't care if it's basketball, I don't care if

1961
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Speaker 2: it's baseball. They pay more than ever because it's the

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Speaker 2: one thing that you just can't skip over. You can't

1963
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Speaker 2: skip the commercials. You are a captive audience for that moment.

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Speaker 2: So the networks will make the money back.

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Speaker 9: But wait no, but wait a second. Ninety seven of

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Speaker 9: the top one hundred. You know, we're sporting events, and

1967
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Speaker 9: ninety seven percent of the ninety seven were football games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the NFL and college football dominated that, I think.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think eighty of those were those two sports.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know the story about Fox overpaying for

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Speaker 9: the NFL to build a network, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, and I remember reading stories.

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Speaker 9: I mean it was legendary, right like that they actually

1974
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Speaker 9: lost money advertising on the deal, but they built a network,

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Speaker 9: right so and hence it was worth it, you know, exponentially.

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Speaker 9: But the NBA, like, I mean, the ratings aren't great, right,

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Speaker 9: Like I'm thinking of myself.

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Speaker 4: The ratings have there. Look, they're not even close to

1979
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Speaker 4: the NFL. They have gone up the last couple of

1980
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Speaker 4: years relative to where they were, which were not spectacular

1981
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Speaker 4: compared to where they were fifteen years ago, you know.

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Speaker 5: So it's one of those to fits this point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's not football, but in compared to anything

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Speaker 4: else that's available, it is live sports, and it is

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Speaker 4: rating decently enough to where I think they might think, hey,

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Speaker 4: we might get a few more sign ups. I forget

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Speaker 4: exactly what the and it's the NFL, so I know

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Speaker 4: it's a hard comparison, but the Chiefs Miami game for

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Speaker 4: Peacock this past postseason, Uh, there's a certain number of subscribers.

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Speaker 4: I forget exactly what it was, but there's a certain

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Speaker 4: percentage of people that signed up in the one week

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Speaker 4: leading up to the game. Of those people, something like

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Speaker 4: fifty five percent of the people that signed up who

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Speaker 4: weren't initially there stayed and continue to pay for about.

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Speaker 5: Three months after that.

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Speaker 4: So Peacock already won from that standpoint that they got people,

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Speaker 4: because there's a lot of people with seventy okay, thanks again. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So it's that's a that's a pretty significant number of

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Speaker 4: people who are now paying for ninety nine a month

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Speaker 4: who probably just paid for it and forgot about it.

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Speaker 4: You get a couple one hundred thousand people to pay

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Speaker 4: for ninety nine a month, you're making pretty good bank

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Speaker 4: there if you're Peacock. And that might be what Amazon

2004
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Speaker 4: is sort of banking on, considering the fact that they're

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Speaker 4: going to get the Conference finals in that mix, and

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Speaker 4: who knows, next time the TV contract is up, Amazon

2007
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Speaker 4: might be in play for the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 5: So that's like the building network thing you were just

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Speaker 5: the example you were using.

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Speaker 2: Here's the interesting thing because you mentioned the ratings Game

2011
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Speaker 2: one of the NBA Finals a couple of nights ago,

2012
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Speaker 2: just under eleven million viewers, which is the third lowest

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Speaker 2: of all time.

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Speaker 3: Right. But here's the other interesting part of it.

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Speaker 2: It's the third lowest viewership of all time for an

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Speaker 2: NBA Final, down five percent from last year. But their

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Speaker 2: percentage audience share. Game one had a higher share of

2018
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Speaker 2: the overall audience twenty percent and adults eighteen to thirty

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Speaker 2: four to fifty percent than any other Finals opener ever

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Speaker 2: on ABC. So less people are watching TV, they're getting

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Speaker 2: a higher share, the numbers are down.

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Speaker 3: Is just all like the math is so weird. I

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Speaker 3: don't know where it breaks and look all the way back.

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Speaker 2: I think it was in twenty fifteen, Clay Travis did

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Speaker 2: a really smart at the time breakdown of if only

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Speaker 2: the people that watched The Walking Dead were paying for

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Speaker 2: the Walking Dead, how much would it cost? And the

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Speaker 2: numbers were stupid when you look at how much cost

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Speaker 2: and he used it is at the time supportive why

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Speaker 2: streaming and separating content will simply never be long lasting.

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Speaker 2: And the more we get into it, the more I

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Speaker 2: think he is right.

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Speaker 3: He was right, then he's right now.

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Speaker 2: Like, as we continue to parse everything out, eventually it's

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Speaker 2: just going to become so expensive.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's going to bring it all back together.

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Speaker 2: Like I had a kid at radio last year at

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Speaker 2: ESPN at the time, there was like I wish there

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Speaker 2: was one site that would take all of my streaming

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Speaker 2: places together and give me a guide so I knew

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Speaker 2: it to watch. And I'm like, you're describing cable. You

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Speaker 2: are describing cable, the very thing that we all unpul

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Speaker 2: up from your describing.

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Speaker 5: Fits this is happening.

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Speaker 4: I mean, do you see this story about like ESPN, Turner,

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Speaker 4: a couple of others off sports together and starting as sports.

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Speaker 4: Basically they're pulling all their sports channels together. And I

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Speaker 4: don't know how much it's gonna end up costing, but

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Speaker 4: it is cable. You're one hundred percent right, It's cable.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly what everything. What's all this is new again?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 5: It is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Well think about it, boys, right, Like we talk about

2055
01:37:56,200 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 9: streaming and it's a joke, right, because all it is

2056
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 9: is the same package in or the same product in

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Speaker 9: a different package.

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Speaker 6: So you know, well, now we got the internet.

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Speaker 9: Well, now it's about I was having this conversation because

2060
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Speaker 9: of my network right where I left my I left

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Speaker 9: radio to join this network called All City, and it's

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Speaker 9: basically digital television, right, local digital television. We're in Denver, Phoenix, Chicago,

2063
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Speaker 9: and Philadelphia. We're about to go into Dallas and maybe

2064
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Speaker 9: Indianapolis and you know we're about to and you cover

2065
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Speaker 9: local teams, and it's a way where you can watch

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Speaker 9: it on demand, you can listen to it through podcasts

2067
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 9: and you could and we have written content right. So

2068
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 9: but in reality, it's just like the sports nets right,

2069
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 9: like around the country, right, you had Comcast Sports net.

2070
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Speaker 5: The sports networks, right, Yeah.

2071
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Speaker 6: It's thank you, it's the RSN. It's exactly what it is.

2072
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Speaker 9: But instead of on television, it's on digital, which digital

2073
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,719
Speaker 9: is the new TV anyway. So really it's an RSN

2074
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 9: that's just cheaper to produce.

2075
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Speaker 2: You know, with all the lime to see where all

2076
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Speaker 2: that goes in the next in the next five years.

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Speaker 9: Now, well, the business, the business is antiquated, right, so

2078
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 9: you can't have TV networks now the cost is too

2079
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 9: much like the radios. The reason why radio is in

2080
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 9: trouble is not because people don't like audio content. People

2081
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:40,879
Speaker 9: love audio content, right, But the issue of radio stations

2082
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 9: that were once worth fifty million dollars that are now

2083
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 9: worth five Well, you still have to make the debt

2084
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 9: payment to the bank, right. Well, that's why the radio

2085
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 9: companies are in trouble.

2086
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's you're right in a YouTube society. Before

2088
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 2: I left the music business that we did a study

2089
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 2: and it showed at the time the we were on

2090
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 2: data study and it showed at the time and this

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01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:06,799
Speaker 2: is back in what twenty sixteen, that YouTube was getting

2092
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 2: more music views per day than every single streaming service combined.

2093
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 2: And that was in twenty sixteen, and it occurred to

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01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 2: everybody at the time. It's like, hey, the music industry

2095
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 2: is going away from a radio model and even the

2096
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Speaker 2: mtvs of the world, and it's being created by kids

2097
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 2: now that can create their own playlist. They're watching it,

2098
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 2: they're listening to music, they're watching concerts. Music is being

2099
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Speaker 2: consumed on YouTube. What I think is interesting is that

2100
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,640
Speaker 2: nobody seemed to understand that that was also going to

2101
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 2: hit TV. And now you know, there are so many

2102
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Speaker 2: people out there that make a really nice living with

2103
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 2: their YouTube channels that you know, sit around and talk

2104
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Speaker 2: about sports.

2105
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Speaker 3: Like you can get this content, yeah anywhere it is interesting.

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Speaker 6: Yep. No, and the same thing with you know, and

2107
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Speaker 6: then you look at TV shows, right, so then you

2108
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Speaker 6: have streaming, so you have streaming entities that come in

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Speaker 6: and all you need is a hit show and you

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Speaker 6: can build a network, right like you know, I mean

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Speaker 6: you could build you know, because now all of a

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Speaker 6: sudden you have reasons for subscriptions. Everything subscription based. What

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Speaker 6: are people going to pay for?

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Speaker 9: Give me something that's interesting, all right, and then surround

2115
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 9: it with some stuff, and you got it.

2116
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Speaker 6: You got a network, right, you got the other streaming.

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01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 2: Why do you think you know, Pat mcavage got fifteen

2118
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Speaker 2: million bucks from ESPN.

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Speaker 3: They want to build their YouTube platforms so exactly pad.

2120
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Speaker 2: On, and then they build other news shows around them

2121
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 2: like it's it's that's the business model.

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Speaker 6: Yep, yep.

2123
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Speaker 9: Uh fellas, hey, coming up, I want to get into

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Speaker 9: the international waters with you guys.

2125
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Speaker 6: Curious if you think it's good.

2126
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Speaker 9: This uh expanding the globe, let's discuss it. Where the

2127
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 9: fella is hanging out right here Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back,

2128
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 9: fellas from the tire rack dot Com studios. Jason fitz

2129
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 9: Kevin Figures. I'm Anthony Gargatto. So let me ask you

2130
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 9: guys the question. Because the great expansion, right, the great

2131
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 9: the world shrinking is in my town, Phillies mets London,

2132
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 9: and uh it's pretty wild because a lot of people,

2133
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:23,679
Speaker 9: i mean traveling is on the uptick, right, especially European

2134
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 9: travel and sports and travel is a perfect marriage.

2135
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Speaker 6: It's great to see the world with sports.

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Speaker 9: And uh so in my city there there was a

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Speaker 9: lot of people made the trek to London and it's

2138
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 9: been pretty cool. There's been you know, all kinds of

2139
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,640
Speaker 9: videos and social media and everybody's there. And I did

2140
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:47,799
Speaker 9: a whole show yesterday about London and baseball in England

2141
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 9: and the Great British Baseball Show. I was doing a

2142
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Speaker 9: whole playoff of it. It is now I like it, right,

2143
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:05,919
Speaker 9: but and we're going to see Brazil this year besides

2144
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 9: London and Germany. In the NFL, right, all the sports

2145
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 9: are doing it and obviously the Premier League's coming here.

2146
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 9: So you know, this exchange in sports culture is it's

2147
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 9: change program is well on their way do you guys

2148
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 9: like it? Does it matter? Does it move the needle? FITZI,

2149
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Speaker 9: I'll start with you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I hate losing home games for international games, and

2151
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 2: I hate what it feels like in the NFL. It

2152
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 2: feels like, now this weird obligation if you want to

2153
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 2: see all of your team's games to go travel. That

2154
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:46,600
Speaker 2: being said, the rare, occasional, Oh we're going to go

2155
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 2: play a game like if it was something that happened

2156
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 2: once every five years, I look at and be like, Wow,

2157
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Speaker 2: that's awesome, and my team got selective for that.

2158
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Speaker 3: I'd love to go over there and see a game

2159
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 3: like the Seeing the Raiders play in Brazil sounds like fun.

2160
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 2: Trying to every year track down with it because I

2161
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 2: believe eventually there's going to be when they expand the

2162
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 2: season to eighteen games. I think they're also going to

2163
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 2: give every single team an international.

2164
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:11,719
Speaker 3: Game every year. That just feels like a lot of lyft.

2165
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 3: Feels like a heavy lift to me.

2166
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 2: So you know, I like it is if it's a sparse, rare,

2167
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I can't believe this is happening. I

2168
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 2: just don't like it every single day to happen that way.

2169
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 9: So, but I love that they were, like, you imagine

2170
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 9: it's going to be once. I agree with you, Once

2171
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 9: it goes to eighteen games, there'll be a double buy.

2172
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 9: It'll be a lot, a lot easier to schedule bye

2173
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:43,879
Speaker 9: weeks and the whole thing to have that kind of travel.

2174
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 9: So I think you're right. I think you're You know,

2175
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 9: there's going to be games everywhere. Every team will play one,

2176
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 9: but it's only one out of eighteen. Right, you're adding

2177
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 9: the game, so you're only you're not really losing anything

2178
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:00,759
Speaker 9: because it's really an ad on to the schedule.

2179
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 3: Now, I mean you could you could talk me into

2180
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 3: that a little bit.

2181
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 2: I think what I love about the baseball side of

2182
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 2: it is that just feels more special, you know. I

2183
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 2: feel on that side, it feels like, Okay, this is

2184
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:14,559
Speaker 2: like the opportunity for a special game in another country,

2185
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 2: the same with when the EPL soccer matches type come

2186
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:21,600
Speaker 2: over here. It feels like a really cool opportunity for

2187
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 2: fans that are passionate to see their favorite team. I

2188
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:29,599
Speaker 2: don't know how many passionate let's say, Ravens fans there

2189
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 2: are in Germany, but I think you know, when you

2190
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 2: start talking about if if Manchester United wants to come

2191
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 2: over to the States, I think there are a lot

2192
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 2: of fans in the States, Like, will everybody in the

2193
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 2: States travel to a city to see that?

2194
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2195
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 2: I think so. So I see the value in it

2196
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 2: as a you know, partnership at some level. I just

2197
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 2: as a baseline. For years, I've been against the NFL

2198
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 2: International Series. So I feel like a bit of a

2199
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 2: hypocrite saying that I like it in other sports, but.

2200
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 3: I do well.

2201
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 4: I kind of follow on the same side that you

2202
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 4: alluded to earlier in Anthony talking about if it's an

2203
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,599
Speaker 4: added eighteenth game. When we've discussed this in the past,

2204
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily mind it. It's a game that you're

2205
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 4: not necessarily accounting for. Now, if you're saying you're taking

2206
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 4: away a preseason game, who gives a rip. It doesn't

2207
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 4: matter anyway, people don't go, no one cares, nobody plays.

2208
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 5: So from that standpoint, it doesn't bother me as much.

2209
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:17,800
Speaker 4: If you want to do an international series where it's

2210
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:20,839
Speaker 4: not taking away a home game that would otherwise already

2211
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 4: be owed to a per particular fan base, I'm not

2212
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 4: bothered by it. And then when it comes to Major

2213
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 4: League Baseball. I'm more in favor of it because this year,

2214
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 4: volume of games is so much higher. So if you

2215
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 4: miss you know, two games, you know, pu's two games

2216
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 4: out of eighty two, you know what I mean, It's

2217
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 4: not that big of a deal. If there's hometown fans

2218
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 4: that want the opportunity to be able to go to

2219
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 4: a game, they're gonna have plenty of opportunities to still

2220
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 4: do that, whereas NFL games are just so scarce. You know,

2221
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 4: one people you know, formulate their entire schedule, you know,

2222
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 4: months in advance to try to figure out a game

2223
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 4: that they can get to. And so I don't think

2224
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 4: it was fair to the home fan base when it

2225
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 4: comes to doing this for football games, but for Major

2226
01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:59,600
Speaker 4: League Baseball, even if you wanted to do it in

2227
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 4: the NBA, which they've dabbled with a little bit the

2228
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 4: last couple of seasons with a couple of regular season games,

2229
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 4: it doesn't bother me as much.

2230
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 6: Do you do you like it?

2231
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 9: Maybe not just being bothered, but is there a party

2232
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:17,639
Speaker 9: that likes it, Like it's a great excuse, like I'm

2233
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 9: doing it here. It's it's Phillies and Mets, and of

2234
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 9: course the Phillies are a big deal. And you know

2235
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 9: the MLB, UH from everybody I talked to, UH is

2236
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:33,600
Speaker 9: doing an amazing job. Like it's a whole big baseball movement.

2237
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:38,719
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, Like like they had batting practice open and

2238
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 9: you know, there's a there's a pub. There's a couple

2239
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 9: of them called patsyonk Avenue, which is a famous street

2240
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 9: in Philadelphia, and they opened up a bar and so

2241
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 9: they had Rob Thompson as the manager of the Phillies

2242
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 9: was you know, doing shots at the bar right like,

2243
01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 9: and it was cool that all the Phillies were there.

2244
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,799
Speaker 9: And I'm looking on social media and there's Alec Bohm

2245
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 9: posing for pictures with fans and it's like it's like

2246
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 9: this big celebration of baseball in London and you start

2247
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 9: to think about it and you go, well, it does

2248
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 9: break the monotony of baseball, right breaks that up. And

2249
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 9: if you can do it in London, why couldn't you

2250
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:27,879
Speaker 9: do it in Spain, in Italy and you know, Greece

2251
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 9: or whatever, like you know, you could you could make

2252
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 9: these things special and interesting.

2253
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 2: And it is your right a launching pad to get

2254
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 2: into And look, I think Taylor Swift's tour this summer

2255
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 2: for a lot of people. Like the reason a lot

2256
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 2: of people are flying over to Europe to go to

2257
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift is because you can go see the biggest

2258
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 2: tour in the world. It's cheaper than it would be

2259
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 2: in America. And while you're over there, you can also

2260
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:52,599
Speaker 2: check out a country that you might never visit otherwise, right, Like,

2261
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 2: so using fandom as a launching band to get into

2262
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 2: international travel is a cool idea. And certainly, I mean,

2263
01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 2: I think you know you can appreciate this cousin is

2264
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 2: as a father, right, Like, imagine taking the kids over

2265
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:08,640
Speaker 2: to London to see a Phillies game, Like that's the

2266
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 2: sort of thing that you, you know, you tell your

2267
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 2: great grand kids about. Like, that's a very cool moment.

2268
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm all for expanding, you know, the sport and

2269
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 4: you know, educating fan bases who otherwise wouldn't be exposed

2270
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 4: to it, at least from an in person standpoint, so

2271
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 4: long as it doesn't sacrifice the home fans domestically. So

2272
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 4: that was always my big drawback when it came to

2273
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 4: NFL games and taking away home games to do that.

2274
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,799
Speaker 4: If you're adding an additional game, fine, because the volume

2275
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 4: of games is so much higher in other sports like

2276
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:38,679
Speaker 4: basketball and baseball especially.

2277
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 5: I'm fine with it. I'm okay with it.

2278
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 4: I think I think it is good for the sport

2279
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:46,719
Speaker 4: to expose other cultures to you know, our great sport,

2280
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 4: you know, the American sport of baseball. I think I

2281
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 4: think it's phenomenal to have a game in London. And

2282
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 4: if it's only a couple of games out of the schedule,

2283
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 4: then then we should do it.

2284
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 6: I'm all for it.

2285
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 9: Where do you think the market How deep do you

2286
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 9: think the market goes?

2287
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 6: You know, does.

2288
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:10,200
Speaker 9: The the idea of American sports? We know basketball is big,

2289
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 9: and especially Europe they love basketball. I still don't know.

2290
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 9: I know in Germany there's been football. They like football

2291
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 9: in England a little bit. I don't know how deep

2292
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 9: it penetrates anywhere else. At basketball by far as the

2293
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:33,520
Speaker 9: favorite the baseball things making a little bit of an inroad.

2294
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 9: Chase Utley is the ambassador of baseball to England.

2295
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 6: He lives in England, lives in London. There's like vibrant

2296
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 6: youth leagues going on there.

2297
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 9: When I was in Italy, I saw I was stunned.

2298
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 9: I was in Tuscany and I was on my way

2299
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:58,520
Speaker 9: from Siena to Rome and I saw a baseball field

2300
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 9: and I was like, like, you never like you see

2301
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:05,560
Speaker 9: soccer fields, right, you never see I saw a baseball

2302
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 9: diamond in Italy. Phillies actually have a kid who's a

2303
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 9: pitcher who's from Genoa, and it was just interesting to

2304
01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 9: me that here I was in Europe and I'm seeing

2305
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:21,680
Speaker 9: a baseball diamond. I don't know, And this is a

2306
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:26,560
Speaker 9: question do they have Does American sports have legs?

2307
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:28,679
Speaker 3: Well?

2308
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 2: I think American sports have legs for a couple of reasons. One,

2309
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 2: American culture seems to go global all the time too.

2310
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 2: We've already seen legs for baseball internationally. And three with

2311
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 2: the Olympics that I mentioned earlier, I mean the fact

2312
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 2: that you know there's going to be seven on seven

2313
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 2: flag football, like it just shows you there's going to

2314
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 2: be more and more. I mean, you want to talk

2315
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 2: about American culture seeping into the Olympics. How many people

2316
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 2: even realize break dancing is going to be an Olympic

2317
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 2: sport this year?

2318
01:51:58,400 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 6: Right?

2319
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:01,719
Speaker 2: Like you want to talk about the ultimate American culture

2320
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 2: moment going global? Breakdancing is going to be judged and

2321
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 2: scored for a gold medal at the Olympics this year, right,

2322
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 2: So like that's just shows you or culture permeates into

2323
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 2: the rest of the world.

2324
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2325
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 2: I interviewed somebody that's a prominent judge on it to

2326
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 2: try and get my head wrapped around how the hell

2327
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 2: you judge breakdancing for an Olympic sport.

2328
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 3: But it's happening, y'all, Like it will be.

2329
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 9: You go watch you go watch the movie Breaking first.

2330
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 4: It's also like, I mean, these are judges from like

2331
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:32,639
Speaker 4: different countries too, so it's like, is there a different

2332
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 4: art or skill that you're used to watching if you're

2333
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 4: judging someone who's breakdancing from Finland versus someone who break

2334
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 4: dances and you know, Saskatchewan.

2335
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 5: I don't know, Yetta. It's just an interesting.

2336
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 2: Interesting had to be an expert in triple soucows and

2337
01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 2: figure skating in the Winter Olympics. Now I'm gonna have

2338
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 2: to know how to judge the stick break dancing, like

2339
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 2: that's when they actually like.

2340
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 3: Freeze their body got gotta judge the stick. It might

2341
01:52:59,160 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 3: be the freeze. I don't know.

2342
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's hysterical.

2343
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:03,839
Speaker 5: I think baseball.

2344
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 4: I think someone even asked Bryce Harper about if baseball

2345
01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 4: comes back in twenty eight for the Olympics. If it's

2346
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:10,719
Speaker 4: something he'd be interested in doing, he said he would,

2347
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 4: and that will certainly help raise the profile of Major

2348
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:16,640
Speaker 4: League baseball. From an international standpoint too. Baseball just can

2349
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 4: never stick in the Olympics. For whatever reason. It comes

2350
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 4: and goes every you know, every.

2351
01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:24,600
Speaker 6: Two or three styles. Weird, isn't it. I don't know.

2352
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 5: I'm sure there's a reason behind it. I don't know

2353
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 5: what it is.

2354
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:30,080
Speaker 4: Professionals historically have not played obviously for obvious reasons.

2355
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 5: It's right in the middle of the season.

2356
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 6: Uh so, which is why they should take a Like,

2357
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 6: if you're going to do it the right way, you.

2358
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 5: Take an Olympic break. You got to take the Olympic breaks.

2359
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:43,360
Speaker 4: It's a couple of weeks not going to kill you, right, Yeah,

2360
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:44,559
Speaker 4: find a way to figure it out.

2361
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's paramount.

2362
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 9: Like if if you were now have the international bug,

2363
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 9: then you have to you've got to be the dream

2364
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:57,600
Speaker 9: team and send and send the send every break to

2365
01:53:57,720 --> 01:53:59,759
Speaker 9: sport and send everybody off to the Olympics.

2366
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to embrace it fully.

2367
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a huge part of Internet. It

2368
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 2: makes sense to embrace it fully because the more the

2369
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 2: more you embrace it, the more chance you have of

2370
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 2: growing a global audience. And that's one of those things too.

2371
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 2: By the way that I know I said earlier, everything

2372
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Speaker 2: is about money. At some point you will tap the

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01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 2: audience out here, like at some point you'll get all

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01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 2: the money you can get out of this audience. So

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01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 2: the more that you continue to just grow outside of

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01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 2: just America, yes, the more pockets you can start to

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01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 2: dip into it. Just from that standpoint, it makes a

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01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 2: ton of sense from a business standpoint.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because you're going to reach saturation levels. So what

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01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 6: do you need.

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01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 9: You need new customers, you need new base I'm completely

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01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 9: with you.

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01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 5: You need that super Bowl in London.

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01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:43,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, it's coming.

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01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 4: There's going to be a super Bowl in London on

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Speaker 4: Peacock within the next twenty five years.

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Speaker 6: Watch. Yeah, I can see that.

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01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 5: That's where it's adding.

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01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I could totally see that. Where the fella is

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Speaker 6: hanging out coming up the speaking the Olympics, the Seven Olds,

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01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 6: the the flag football thing.

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Speaker 9: I want to dive into flag football with you guys

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01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 9: for a moment. Okay, I'm curious of what you guys think.

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01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 9: Fellas hanging out right here, Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, fellas.

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Speaker 6: Hanging out. There's got to be wiggling as our men.

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Speaker 9: Mark, Yes, the wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle.

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Speaker 6: Uh Fellas from the tiraq dot com stitios.

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Speaker 9: Hey, let me ask you a question because the flag

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01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 9: football revolution is here, all right, and you mentioned it

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01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 9: being part of the Olympics. There are these leagues, right

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01:55:56,520 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 9: and I'm I'm with it, and personally I don't like it.

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01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 9: I mean, nothing wrong with flag football. It's fun, it's

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01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 9: the whole thing. But the way they do these leagues,

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01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 9: like there is both My kids played it, they both.

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01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 6: I mean Anthony, like Anthony plays real plays regular football.

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01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 9: He loves regular football because I think he's physicality's alignment,

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01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:24,360
Speaker 9: you know, and he plays linebacker.

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01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 6: He's not a skill guy. Like you got to be

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01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 6: a skill position player to really love flag football, because

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01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 6: it's all about the skill piece of it.

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01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:38,959
Speaker 9: These leagues are like, it's bizarre. It's there's a thousand

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01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 9: kids and there's like seventeen games going on at once

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01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 9: and it's cool. They're fast, quick games, and it's just

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01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:55,640
Speaker 9: a bizarre It feels like the cliff Notes of sports.

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01:56:56,920 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 9: And for that reason I don't like it, and not

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01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 9: to mention that you have these coaches that act like

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01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 9: they're Bill Wall So I'm like, dude, it's flag It's

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01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 9: not even real football.

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01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 2: So it's interesting because is there a spot as they

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01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:16,160
Speaker 2: continue to take more and more contact out of the

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01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:19,800
Speaker 2: game where at some point flag football becomes what people

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01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 2: gravitate towards. I don't think so, but man, I don't know,

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01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 2: like the fastest in the world juking each other out

2424
01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 2: is going to have a home. I would think it's

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01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:32,720
Speaker 2: somewhere like it's hard for me to imagine the NFL

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01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:36,080
Speaker 2: ever just getting rid of tackling, right, But it's also

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01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 2: at some point you just got to wonder where the

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01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 2: game evolves to, like what is the future of flag

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01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 2: football look like? As certainly other football leagues have tried,

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01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 2: and I know people will tell me that the UFL

2431
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 2: got good ratings this year. Nobody cares arena football, you know,

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01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:53,760
Speaker 2: you guys know my fandom.

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01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 3: Nobody cares.

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01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 2: Right, So you look across the board and people are

2435
01:57:57,160 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 2: not flocking to these other football leagues. They flock to football,

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01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 2: and they flock to the NFL. Will they at some

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01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 2: point start to fall in love with flag football at

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01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 2: that same level. I don't know, man, Like I want

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01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 2: to say no, but I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think from a TV viewership standpoint, in popularity as

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01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 4: far as revenue generating, no, But I think from a

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01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 4: popularity as far as people from a participation standpoint, especially

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01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 4: with a lot of people having fears about concussions and

2444
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 4: whether or not children should be wearing helmets before the

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01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 4: age of like sixteen seventeen years old. Yeah, I think

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01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 4: you might see a proliferation of participation when it comes

2447
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 4: to see it.

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01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I mean I see it already.

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01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:39,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have kids who are off that age.

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01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you should see the amount.

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01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 9: First of all, numbers, I think numbers are on the

2452
01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:51,440
Speaker 9: uptick a little bit with football the flag piece. Certainly

2453
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:54,920
Speaker 9: they just love the flag. But these kids, there's a

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Speaker 9: million of them, and these and it's it's poor lot

2455
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:02,440
Speaker 9: of ridiculous because the coaches only let's run, you know,

2456
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:04,720
Speaker 9: they come in with these playbooks.

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01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:07,879
Speaker 4: And chase it's seven on seven if even that glorified

2458
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 4: seven on seven is what it is exactly. And I'm

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01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 4: not saying that doesn't have a place from a developmental standpoint,

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01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 4: to a certain degree. Now, look, you can do full

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01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 4: on team. You can have linemen who don't wear flags.

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01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 4: I mean they have leagues like that where you have

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01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 4: kids who play offensive line and defensive line and your

2464
01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 4: job is to either go get the quarterback or protect

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01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 4: the quarterback, and you pull up the quarterbacks flag an

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01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:27,760
Speaker 4: he sacked. So it's not all just you know, drop

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01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 4: back pass and there's the DBS versus receivers. They you know,

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Speaker 4: there's actual football to a certain degree, just without the tackling.

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01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 4: So from a participation standpoint, I think the numbers are

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01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 4: only going to go up. I think girls are going

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01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 4: to get more involved and have been getting more involved

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Speaker 4: as well because of the the lack of tackling. So

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01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:46,600
Speaker 4: I think from a popularity standpoint, more people are going

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01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 4: to play and participate. But I do not foresee it

2475
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:52,880
Speaker 4: becoming some sort of great mainstream money maker from a

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01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 4: television standpoint, no, Man, I know.

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Speaker 3: Some people that play in some rec league flag football

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01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:00,160
Speaker 3: leagues and it's it's wild there.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to find the open door to get into

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Speaker 2: that as you get older, because as you play rec

2481
02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:08,280
Speaker 2: league basketball or whatever, it sort of falls apart or

2482
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:11,040
Speaker 2: falls off. But man, rec League flag football. They're all

2483
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:13,080
Speaker 2: guys that played like D two D one football.

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Speaker 3: It's wild.

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02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, former players, even with former retired NFL players apparently

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02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:18,600
Speaker 4: are really into it, and a lot of them are

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Speaker 4: looking to try to compete the Olympics, if not this

2488
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Speaker 4: year moving forward.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's because it's the skill thing, like correct and

2490
02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:29,640
Speaker 6: you're right, you have the you know, the glorified line,

2491
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Speaker 6: but the skill thing. People like the skill piece something.

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Speaker 9: reset where we're at NBA tomorrow night. FITZI was the

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Speaker 9: lone voice on the Celtics among us figuring and I

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Speaker 9: colored by our Boston hate.

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Speaker 6: We're on Dallas certainly. Game one, first quarter, they jump

2523
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Speaker 6: out all over Boston, all over Dallas. They score thirty seven.

2524
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Speaker 6: All right, they're on fire for three. Now, we've seen

2525
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Speaker 6: the Celtics before where they'll just go crazy from three

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Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden the next game they

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Speaker 6: come back down the earth, and that's that's going to

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Speaker 6: be something to watch for now.

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Speaker 9: I still think this is going to be a series.

2530
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:53,920
Speaker 9: You know, we'll see if I'm stubborn or if I'm correct,

2531
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 9: But I still think this is a series, FITZI.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't think it's not a series. I wasn't

2533
02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:02,320
Speaker 2: surprized by anything I saw in Game one, that's all. Like,

2534
02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:04,440
Speaker 2: I thought the Celtics were the best of who they

2535
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 2: can be and they were arrested. The hard part about

2536
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:09,240
Speaker 2: all of this is the presumption as well, that's gonna

2537
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:09,680
Speaker 2: catch up.

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02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:10,520
Speaker 3: I don't know that it does.

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02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:12,760
Speaker 2: I think the Celtics are gonna thump them again on

2540
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:14,040
Speaker 2: Sunday tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: This series goes to two.

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Speaker 6: Nothing.

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Speaker 3: In my mind, then the question is how do the

2544
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:18,960
Speaker 3: Celtics shoot when they.

2545
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:22,040
Speaker 2: Get to Dallas. In my mind, coming into it, I

2546
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:24,880
Speaker 2: felt like Celtics and six felt right. I still feel

2547
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:27,440
Speaker 2: like Celtics in six feels right. But it should be

2548
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:30,000
Speaker 2: a more competitive six. It needs to be more competitive

2549
02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:32,120
Speaker 2: six than what we just saw because what we just

2550
02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:35,120
Speaker 2: saw was frankly gross. I mean, as much as we

2551
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:38,040
Speaker 2: talk about the lack of conversation at times, we need

2552
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:41,880
Speaker 2: some just epic incredible moments. You need Kyrie not to shrink,

2553
02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:44,800
Speaker 2: you need Luca to be absolutely superhuman. It's gonna take

2554
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:47,160
Speaker 2: that sort of a thing for the matters to stay

2555
02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:50,120
Speaker 2: in this series. I still feel good about Boston and six,

2556
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:52,760
Speaker 2: but I don't know, man, Like I hope the games

2557
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:55,120
Speaker 2: get more competitive. I just I feel like we saw

2558
02:03:55,200 --> 02:03:57,680
Speaker 2: the mismatch, and we saw why I felt the.

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Speaker 3: Way I felt in the game one.

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Speaker 4: We can't so you sit through that again. The twenty

2561
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:06,240
Speaker 4: thirty point deficited uphill climb off jump for Dallas as

2562
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 4: well as Boston played, and I don't know if they

2563
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:10,560
Speaker 4: can play any better than the way they played on

2564
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:13,000
Speaker 4: both ends of the floor. There is another level that

2565
02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:16,640
Speaker 4: Dallas can get to, too, and especially defensively, so they're not,

2566
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Speaker 4: by by any means out of this series. Even if

2567
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Speaker 4: they end up losing on Sunday night, I still see

2568
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:24,360
Speaker 4: a possibility where they can, at the ad worst, you know,

2569
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:27,240
Speaker 4: force this thing back to Boston, you know, win both

2570
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Speaker 4: games at home, and maybe it's one of those series

2571
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:30,720
Speaker 4: where every team holds serve at home.

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Speaker 5: I can certainly see it playing itself out that way.

2573
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Speaker 4: But I by no means I'm ready to bury Dallas

2574
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:38,480
Speaker 4: because I still think that they the defensive effort just

2575
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:40,880
Speaker 4: wasn't there for them that night, and they also outside

2576
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:43,400
Speaker 4: of Luka Doncik. No one else offensively, including Kyrie Irving,

2577
02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:45,640
Speaker 4: really did much of anything, and that has not been

2578
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:48,760
Speaker 4: the norm throughout this postseason run. So Game two will

2579
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:50,440
Speaker 4: go a long way in determining whether or not that

2580
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:52,960
Speaker 4: was something that Celtics did or was some sort of

2581
02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:53,720
Speaker 4: just an anomaly.

2582
02:04:55,160 --> 02:05:02,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, it's the resing its factor. I did

2583
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 9: not take into account fully. I didn't think he would

2584
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:06,600
Speaker 9: have that as big an impact.

2585
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:09,360
Speaker 5: Neither of us did. Who was the best player on

2586
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:12,840
Speaker 5: the floor for the easily and.

2587
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:16,400
Speaker 4: On the paint for them, which they typically are not

2588
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:17,920
Speaker 4: a team that does a lot of scoring in the paint,

2589
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:19,480
Speaker 4: but he certainly changed that dynamic.

2590
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:24,360
Speaker 6: Get three blocks too. Kidding me, Yeah, when you see that.

2591
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:26,600
Speaker 2: The thought that we had where it was like, hey,

2592
02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:28,320
Speaker 2: even if he comes in, he's gonna have to knock

2593
02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:29,800
Speaker 2: rust off, it's gonna take him minute.

2594
02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 3: Nope, none of that was true.

2595
02:05:31,360 --> 02:05:33,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that is pretty amazing just to come in

2596
02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:35,240
Speaker 2: and play that well that quickly.

2597
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:39,040
Speaker 9: And then and then what happens is he makes Horford

2598
02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:43,040
Speaker 9: so much more effective, right, and then it's just I

2599
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 9: mean they already have terrific car play. Yeah, I mean,

2600
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:53,280
Speaker 9: Drew Holliday, it's amazing. He's still he's by far the

2601
02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:57,880
Speaker 9: biggest sung hero on that squad. What a great defender,

2602
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:02,680
Speaker 9: plays a great floor game, could just does everything on

2603
02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:05,560
Speaker 9: the on the floor. He's he's one of the most

2604
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:11,440
Speaker 9: underrated players in it's league that is filled with the overrated,

2605
02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 9: Like we overrat everybody in that league just about. He's

2606
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:18,520
Speaker 9: one of the most underrated players ever to come through

2607
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:18,840
Speaker 9: that line.

2608
02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:22,600
Speaker 4: Isn't because his numbers aren't like, you know, inflated or gaudy.

2609
02:06:22,680 --> 02:06:24,400
Speaker 4: He just he goes out there and plays a smart

2610
02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 4: basketball game. Is a great athlete, like you mentioned, a

2611
02:06:26,120 --> 02:06:27,160
Speaker 4: great individual player.

2612
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:28,040
Speaker 6: Uh.

2613
02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:29,480
Speaker 5: You guys had him out there in Philly for at

2614
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 5: least a year or two, I believe.

2615
02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:36,520
Speaker 6: Just his trade marked the start of the process.

2616
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 5: That's what it was, Okay, and he was part of

2617
02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:42,720
Speaker 5: the big cell off then.

2618
02:06:42,680 --> 02:06:47,560
Speaker 6: Yes, And interestingly, you know we went through it, you know,

2619
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 6: and it's a it's a warning to other franchises all

2620
02:06:51,400 --> 02:06:54,640
Speaker 6: of a sudden, you know, the recipe in the NBA

2621
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:59,080
Speaker 6: is two stars in depth. Right, I mean, geez.

2622
02:06:58,840 --> 02:07:01,280
Speaker 5: Goes speaking of oh what's old is new again?

2623
02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 6: There you go Kobe and Shack, right, I mean, it's

2624
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:11,480
Speaker 6: unbelievable how we've gone back to that thing. Now it's

2625
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:16,440
Speaker 6: two stars and effective role players. And then you know,

2626
02:07:16,680 --> 02:07:20,120
Speaker 6: I here the Sixers are beginning an off season as

2627
02:07:20,120 --> 02:07:23,040
Speaker 6: soon as the Foals are over where they have two players,

2628
02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:26,320
Speaker 6: the two best players are the only ones on their contract,

2629
02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:30,240
Speaker 6: Empiide and Maxi, and it's like, let's fill a whole

2630
02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:33,960
Speaker 6: team around them. And we went through all the role

2631
02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:38,200
Speaker 6: players that were in that through the process that they

2632
02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:45,160
Speaker 6: traded off true Holiday, TJ McConnell, Isaiah Joe, I mean,

2633
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:47,440
Speaker 6: one after another, right.

2634
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 5: Who I know is back but still.

2635
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:53,320
Speaker 6: Right he won't be back after this? Well yeah he

2636
02:07:53,440 --> 02:07:56,440
Speaker 6: was back last year. And you know, but there's been

2637
02:07:56,920 --> 02:08:01,560
Speaker 6: a legion of guys that were on this that mckel

2638
02:08:01,640 --> 02:08:04,520
Speaker 6: bridges for a minute where they traded them draft nightly.

2639
02:08:04,600 --> 02:08:07,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the killer, that's the one right there.

2640
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:08,360
Speaker 6: You know.

2641
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:12,280
Speaker 9: But it is interesting how we've gone back to the

2642
02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:14,800
Speaker 9: two star like this is how you win. Well, you

2643
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:17,680
Speaker 9: look at dapsis and you know this is what they are.

2644
02:08:18,120 --> 02:08:20,360
Speaker 4: Well, a big reason for that is because of the

2645
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:23,440
Speaker 4: new CBA and how you know, penalized teams are going

2646
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:26,240
Speaker 4: to be for being over the second luxury tax threshold.

2647
02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:29,320
Speaker 4: So you're just not gonna have the ability to pay

2648
02:08:29,480 --> 02:08:32,480
Speaker 4: three guys forty plus million dollars. I mean, you can

2649
02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:34,720
Speaker 4: do it, but you're gonna be penalized so heavily. It's

2650
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:37,000
Speaker 4: gonna be just stupid for you to do it. It makes

2651
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:40,440
Speaker 4: no financial sense for you to be able to do

2652
02:08:40,480 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 4: it that way. So the NBA, this is just the

2653
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:44,960
Speaker 4: NBA once again trying to level the playing field a

2654
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 4: little bit and trying to make sure that, yeah, to

2655
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:50,360
Speaker 4: make sure teams that print money, like the Clippers or

2656
02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:52,280
Speaker 4: you know whomever else. I guess the Sixers to a

2657
02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:54,440
Speaker 4: certain degree, you know, can't just go out there and

2658
02:08:54,480 --> 02:08:56,880
Speaker 4: just pay whoever they want, however much they want. You know,

2659
02:08:57,000 --> 02:08:59,560
Speaker 4: taxes be damned. You'll lose draft picks if you're over

2660
02:08:59,600 --> 02:09:02,400
Speaker 4: a certain threshold at this point too. So it's all

2661
02:09:02,440 --> 02:09:04,840
Speaker 4: about in the spirit of competitive balance. So teams are

2662
02:09:04,880 --> 02:09:07,600
Speaker 4: realizing they this and this is part of the reason

2663
02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:10,480
Speaker 4: the motivation behind, at least according to woj's reporting, why

2664
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:14,160
Speaker 4: the Lakers want to hire Hurly, someone who can cultivate talent,

2665
02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:15,520
Speaker 4: because it's like, we can't just go out and just

2666
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:17,000
Speaker 4: buy a bunch of talent and spend a bunch of

2667
02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:19,040
Speaker 4: money we're gonna have to get role players that can

2668
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:21,640
Speaker 4: actually be young and to be developed well into a

2669
02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:24,480
Speaker 4: system because the way the NBA is going now, you're

2670
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:27,040
Speaker 4: just not gonna be able to pay multiple guys gobs

2671
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:28,680
Speaker 4: of money to be able to compete anymore.

2672
02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:31,520
Speaker 2: And that's working guys Like that's I think that's the

2673
02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 2: part of this to me, is that that's a good thing.

2674
02:09:33,720 --> 02:09:35,160
Speaker 6: Yes, I agree, agree.

2675
02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:36,920
Speaker 2: When you look at the how difficult it is right

2676
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:38,960
Speaker 2: now to get back to back in the NBA, when

2677
02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:41,720
Speaker 2: you look at how different it feels every year, like

2678
02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 2: that's one of the things we say we love about

2679
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 2: the NFL is that every year's unpredictable. Well, the NBA

2680
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:49,040
Speaker 2: is giving us that with these with these metrics they

2681
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:51,320
Speaker 2: put in place, So I think it's it's absolutely working

2682
02:09:51,320 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 2: for them. And by the way, as we see here

2683
02:09:53,400 --> 02:09:56,200
Speaker 2: with Boston, you know, you mentioned the process, and you

2684
02:09:56,320 --> 02:09:58,800
Speaker 2: mentioned sort of the Big two and everything. There's been

2685
02:09:58,960 --> 02:10:01,640
Speaker 2: enough yelling around the Celtics for years about well you

2686
02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:03,160
Speaker 2: got to blow this up. You're gonna have to get

2687
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:05,920
Speaker 2: a different solution, and all they did was not listen. Like,

2688
02:10:06,400 --> 02:10:09,080
Speaker 2: for what it's worth, the Celtics didn't take any of

2689
02:10:09,120 --> 02:10:11,160
Speaker 2: the bait on all of it. They stayed the course

2690
02:10:11,240 --> 02:10:13,160
Speaker 2: on it and they are where they are, so there

2691
02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:15,920
Speaker 2: is something to just you know, this process, this system,

2692
02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:17,920
Speaker 2: the way it's working right now, and also having an

2693
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:21,760
Speaker 2: organization that's willing to be patient enough and stars that

2694
02:10:21,800 --> 02:10:23,440
Speaker 2: are willing to be patient enough to let it all

2695
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:23,960
Speaker 2: come together.

2696
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:28,280
Speaker 6: I'm glad you're right on, Fitzy.

2697
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:31,120
Speaker 9: And then Figgi, I'm glad you brought up Danny Hurley

2698
02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:34,720
Speaker 9: because I've been wanting to bring it up all morning.

2699
02:10:35,640 --> 02:10:44,080
Speaker 6: It's an incredible decision that he has, right like, he

2700
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:45,400
Speaker 6: is a great coach.

2701
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:48,640
Speaker 9: We talked about this during the during the run. Fitzy,

2702
02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:51,800
Speaker 9: you saw firsthand you were at the final four. He's

2703
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:52,880
Speaker 9: an amazing dude.

2704
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:57,640
Speaker 6: It's just the ridiculous The movement on his offense is ridiculous. Right.

2705
02:10:57,680 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 9: The Hurles are the Mannings of football. Right, They're the

2706
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:06,640
Speaker 9: first The Hurlies are the first family of basketball in

2707
02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:07,160
Speaker 9: that sense.

2708
02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:14,360
Speaker 6: If you're Hurley and do you go take the bag

2709
02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:20,240
Speaker 6: or do you just build a kingdom in stores? Now?

2710
02:11:21,400 --> 02:11:24,720
Speaker 9: If you if you think about how college is going,

2711
02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:29,480
Speaker 9: we should see the return of college basketball. With the

2712
02:11:29,560 --> 02:11:34,560
Speaker 9: way the portal, with the way the nil, the e fact,

2713
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:36,080
Speaker 9: you're going to get paid. You're gonna be able to

2714
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:39,680
Speaker 9: pay players, the Power five conferences, all that stuff.

2715
02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:40,920
Speaker 6: You should.

2716
02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:45,800
Speaker 9: I think the college basketball gets is improved because I

2717
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:48,920
Speaker 9: think you'll have guys that now are since you're getting paid,

2718
02:11:49,280 --> 02:11:52,360
Speaker 9: you'll be willing to stay. And I think the game

2719
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:55,800
Speaker 9: should become should become better. But do you leave and

2720
02:11:55,880 --> 02:11:59,000
Speaker 9: take the big, big money or do you become just

2721
02:11:59,600 --> 02:12:03,760
Speaker 9: the code of college basketball? Because nobody is close to him?

2722
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:06,800
Speaker 9: If you if you think about his age, he could

2723
02:12:06,800 --> 02:12:08,880
Speaker 9: own the sport. He could be he could be John

2724
02:12:08,920 --> 02:12:10,480
Speaker 9: Wooden modern day.

2725
02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:15,240
Speaker 2: Part of the problem to what you said about the

2726
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:17,440
Speaker 2: fact that guys are getting paid to stay in longer.

2727
02:12:17,480 --> 02:12:20,520
Speaker 2: I agree with that, But the dynamic of college sports

2728
02:12:20,600 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 2: is changing so quickly that I just wonder if Connecticut

2729
02:12:24,360 --> 02:12:27,080
Speaker 2: even knows if they can compete long term in that dynamic,

2730
02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:29,760
Speaker 2: Like how where's the split going to end? Is there

2731
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:32,480
Speaker 2: eventually going to be super conferences of some level where

2732
02:12:32,520 --> 02:12:35,879
Speaker 2: everybody's only paying attention to football, And because Connecticus football

2733
02:12:36,160 --> 02:12:40,720
Speaker 2: program is just not it's nothing. Having said that, is

2734
02:12:40,760 --> 02:12:42,520
Speaker 2: there some level of Hurley where you got to look

2735
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:44,080
Speaker 2: at it and say, man, this is the time I'm

2736
02:12:44,120 --> 02:12:48,000
Speaker 2: a back to back national champion. I can get out now,

2737
02:12:48,280 --> 02:12:50,360
Speaker 2: I can become the coach of one of the biggest

2738
02:12:50,360 --> 02:12:53,040
Speaker 2: brands in all of sports. If I ever covered a

2739
02:12:53,120 --> 02:12:55,560
Speaker 2: job in the NBA, I would be taking a job

2740
02:12:55,880 --> 02:12:59,720
Speaker 2: with a huge franchise that everybody knows, it's legendary. I'd

2741
02:12:59,720 --> 02:13:01,480
Speaker 2: get to coach one of the greatest players of all

2742
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:03,480
Speaker 2: time for a minute, and then I would get the

2743
02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:05,440
Speaker 2: autonomy to be able to build this thing for the

2744
02:13:05,480 --> 02:13:08,360
Speaker 2: future the right way long term. While I do that,

2745
02:13:08,640 --> 02:13:11,360
Speaker 2: I mean, ever, if you're ever thinking of going to

2746
02:13:11,600 --> 02:13:14,400
Speaker 2: the NBA, why would you not go to this version

2747
02:13:14,400 --> 02:13:16,600
Speaker 2: of the Lakers? Like, it's just why would you not

2748
02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:18,800
Speaker 2: Whatever that full money is going to be, it's gonna

2749
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:20,919
Speaker 2: be gross, it's going to be for a long term contract.

2750
02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:22,640
Speaker 2: Why would you not jump at this if you don't

2751
02:13:22,720 --> 02:13:23,240
Speaker 2: just know what?

2752
02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:28,360
Speaker 9: Okay, there's only one retort, and the only retort to

2753
02:13:28,440 --> 02:13:31,400
Speaker 9: that is what you said. If you want to go

2754
02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 9: to the NBA, if you're a coach, and you are

2755
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:37,320
Speaker 9: a teacher coach.

2756
02:13:37,640 --> 02:13:38,560
Speaker 6: This is what you do.

2757
02:13:39,880 --> 02:13:44,000
Speaker 9: The NBA is not exactly the best place to be right,

2758
02:13:44,080 --> 02:13:48,560
Speaker 9: Like we've seen coaches get usurped regularly on the rag gear.

2759
02:13:48,640 --> 02:13:52,040
Speaker 6: Right when it comes to the NBA, It's why Jay

2760
02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:54,320
Speaker 6: Wright wanted nothing to do with it. I remember having

2761
02:13:54,320 --> 02:13:57,560
Speaker 6: a conversation. At the conversation, the Sixers would have paid

2762
02:13:57,600 --> 02:14:00,400
Speaker 6: him whatever you want to name this price. The Knicks

2763
02:14:00,760 --> 02:14:04,880
Speaker 6: would have said, name his price whatever he wanted, and

2764
02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:08,320
Speaker 6: he could have coached the Knicks, right Madison Square Garden.

2765
02:14:09,240 --> 02:14:14,320
Speaker 6: Maybe not the Lakers in Lebron, but it's close and

2766
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:16,440
Speaker 6: all the money in the world. And he never wanted

2767
02:14:16,520 --> 02:14:18,000
Speaker 6: to do it because he wanted to.

2768
02:14:19,600 --> 02:14:22,640
Speaker 9: Have his teaching and he wanted to be a coach,

2769
02:14:23,120 --> 02:14:24,640
Speaker 9: and he thought he would never be able to do

2770
02:14:24,640 --> 02:14:25,240
Speaker 9: that in the NBA.

2771
02:14:26,080 --> 02:14:29,760
Speaker 2: Well, and I think back to what Woad said when

2772
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:33,200
Speaker 2: he started breaking it that he has NBA aspirations. You're right,

2773
02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:36,400
Speaker 2: If he doesn't have NBA aspirations, why go anywhere?

2774
02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:36,640
Speaker 3: Right?

2775
02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:39,040
Speaker 2: Because I do believe he has the chance to be

2776
02:14:39,080 --> 02:14:42,160
Speaker 2: this generation's coach K. And I think college basketball needs

2777
02:14:42,400 --> 02:14:45,720
Speaker 2: this generation's coach K, Like they need more coaches that

2778
02:14:45,760 --> 02:14:48,680
Speaker 2: are going to stay and be the face of the sport.

2779
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:51,960
Speaker 2: Like we need to know who the person is that

2780
02:14:52,040 --> 02:14:54,720
Speaker 2: we could all sort of gravitate towards or against heroes

2781
02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:56,839
Speaker 2: and villains we love all that soap opera stuff.

2782
02:14:57,080 --> 02:14:57,560
Speaker 3: We need that.

2783
02:14:57,600 --> 02:15:01,040
Speaker 2: I think college basketball needs Hurley, there's no doubt about that.

2784
02:15:01,120 --> 02:15:04,280
Speaker 2: But if Hurley wants to go somewhere, if he wants

2785
02:15:04,320 --> 02:15:06,760
Speaker 2: to be in the NBA, then this, this is a

2786
02:15:06,760 --> 02:15:09,520
Speaker 2: brilliant moment. And Yukon is going to be up a

2787
02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:13,520
Speaker 2: creek because you know, look, he's done great things. And

2788
02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:15,720
Speaker 2: I know Yukon's gonna say, hey, we have a storied

2789
02:15:15,760 --> 02:15:18,040
Speaker 2: history here. Fine, yeah you do. But this is a

2790
02:15:18,080 --> 02:15:21,320
Speaker 2: spend world and so Yukon's gonna have to raise enough

2791
02:15:21,360 --> 02:15:24,320
Speaker 2: money to continue to recruit at this level. Man, I

2792
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:28,280
Speaker 2: don't know. I think this would be damaging for college basketball.

2793
02:15:28,280 --> 02:15:31,760
Speaker 2: It would be damaging for Connecticut. It's damaging for a

2794
02:15:31,800 --> 02:15:34,160
Speaker 2: sport I love. And it's great for Hurley if he

2795
02:15:34,160 --> 02:15:36,440
Speaker 2: wants to be in the NBA. So I think he's gone.

2796
02:15:36,480 --> 02:15:38,280
Speaker 2: I think he's as good as going big.

2797
02:15:39,280 --> 02:15:39,480
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2798
02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:41,680
Speaker 4: Look, I mean, ultimately, if that's what he wants to do.

2799
02:15:41,800 --> 02:15:44,120
Speaker 4: If I were advising him, and why would he listen

2800
02:15:44,160 --> 02:15:46,120
Speaker 4: to me, I don't know if this is the Craig

2801
02:15:46,200 --> 02:15:49,000
Speaker 4: job to take. The Lakers are in a semi transition

2802
02:15:49,080 --> 02:15:51,400
Speaker 4: phase right now, where you have an older Lebron James,

2803
02:15:51,440 --> 02:15:54,040
Speaker 4: who's gonna be hanging off for the last couple of years.

2804
02:15:54,240 --> 02:15:56,120
Speaker 4: You're gonna have Anthony Davis and who knows what the

2805
02:15:56,120 --> 02:15:57,560
Speaker 4: rest of the roster is going to look like at

2806
02:15:57,560 --> 02:15:59,520
Speaker 4: that point. So are you in a semi rebuild? Are

2807
02:15:59,520 --> 02:16:03,600
Speaker 4: you compete? And you're going from winning national championship the

2808
02:16:03,680 --> 02:16:07,520
Speaker 4: last couple of years, as you guys mentioned, being a teacher, uh,

2809
02:16:07,560 --> 02:16:10,720
Speaker 4: going into the NBA where it's really less about x's

2810
02:16:10,760 --> 02:16:13,680
Speaker 4: and I was coaching him more about managing egos. And

2811
02:16:14,240 --> 02:16:16,920
Speaker 4: Hurley is And I say this with all the greatest

2812
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:20,120
Speaker 4: endearment in the world, it's kind of a head case.

2813
02:16:20,240 --> 02:16:23,040
Speaker 4: He's real fiery, get to the guys faces, does all

2814
02:16:23,080 --> 02:16:23,520
Speaker 4: that stuff?

2815
02:16:23,560 --> 02:16:24,120
Speaker 6: Is that right?

2816
02:16:24,160 --> 02:16:25,080
Speaker 3: Oh, he's a jerk.

2817
02:16:25,160 --> 02:16:27,440
Speaker 2: He is a let's just call it, like, Okay, I

2818
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:29,080
Speaker 2: was trying to be nice about Connecticut.

2819
02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:31,640
Speaker 3: So I love you guys, but like, Hurley's a jerk,

2820
02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:32,800
Speaker 3: Like be honest.

2821
02:16:32,959 --> 02:16:35,120
Speaker 4: So I have more dealings with his brother Bobby in

2822
02:16:35,160 --> 02:16:37,520
Speaker 4: Arizona State, and he's probably the next level, even more

2823
02:16:37,560 --> 02:16:40,160
Speaker 4: so than Danny is. So I can speak to him

2824
02:16:40,160 --> 02:16:41,879
Speaker 4: more than I can speak to Danny. But I'll i'll

2825
02:16:41,959 --> 02:16:44,760
Speaker 4: but I'll take that so dealing knowing he has that

2826
02:16:44,800 --> 02:16:48,879
Speaker 4: sort of combustible personality inside of an NBA locker room,

2827
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:51,760
Speaker 4: especially with a veteran team, with a guy like Lebron

2828
02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:54,080
Speaker 4: James in that locker room as well, I just wonder

2829
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:56,280
Speaker 4: how that whole dynamic is gonna go. It's almost like

2830
02:16:56,320 --> 02:16:59,120
Speaker 4: he'd be a better fit for a younger, rebuilding sort

2831
02:16:59,160 --> 02:17:01,640
Speaker 4: of team, a team that's that's building from the ground up,

2832
02:17:01,879 --> 02:17:05,400
Speaker 4: that has a little bit of young talent, a Houston maybe,

2833
02:17:05,400 --> 02:17:07,360
Speaker 4: even if it was like an OKC that doesn't have

2834
02:17:07,400 --> 02:17:10,720
Speaker 4: an established like super superstar yet, right, you know, But.

2835
02:17:10,720 --> 02:17:13,160
Speaker 2: Isn't that who the Lakers are about to be? Like

2836
02:17:13,200 --> 02:17:15,520
Speaker 2: at some point this Lebron experiment ends. So if they

2837
02:17:15,560 --> 02:17:18,600
Speaker 2: give him a long term deal, and not by long term,

2838
02:17:18,640 --> 02:17:21,400
Speaker 2: I mean like six, eight, ten years, like whatever he's

2839
02:17:21,440 --> 02:17:23,040
Speaker 2: going to get offered, if they give him an ob

2840
02:17:23,080 --> 02:17:26,040
Speaker 2: scene long deal, I think that's why it makes sense,

2841
02:17:26,080 --> 02:17:28,560
Speaker 2: because I believe the Lakers are kind of telling you

2842
02:17:28,560 --> 02:17:30,520
Speaker 2: with this, Hey, we know the Lebron things not gonna

2843
02:17:30,560 --> 02:17:32,959
Speaker 2: last that long. We need somebody that can be the

2844
02:17:33,000 --> 02:17:35,360
Speaker 2: program once he's gone. You're gonna be the face of

2845
02:17:35,400 --> 02:17:35,920
Speaker 2: the Lakers.

2846
02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so that goes to my next point, which

2847
02:17:38,040 --> 02:17:39,760
Speaker 4: and that's great and it makes total sense, fits and

2848
02:17:39,800 --> 02:17:42,039
Speaker 4: I'm with you a thousand percent, except they've had what

2849
02:17:42,240 --> 02:17:44,920
Speaker 4: six coaches in the last like nine or ten years,

2850
02:17:45,000 --> 02:17:47,480
Speaker 4: whatever it's been, there's been no stability at the head

2851
02:17:47,520 --> 02:17:49,880
Speaker 4: coaching position. Regardless of a long of a contract they've

2852
02:17:49,879 --> 02:17:53,240
Speaker 4: given anybody, there's been instability in that front office situation.

2853
02:17:53,600 --> 02:17:55,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the most stable front office

2854
02:17:56,480 --> 02:17:58,000
Speaker 4: you know, from an organization or at the top of

2855
02:17:58,040 --> 02:18:00,520
Speaker 4: the organization standpoint to necessarily work for at this point

2856
02:18:00,520 --> 02:18:03,240
Speaker 4: in time. My thing is, if you're a Hurley, even

2857
02:18:03,280 --> 02:18:05,959
Speaker 4: if you don't win the championship next year, which just

2858
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:09,120
Speaker 4: most statistically speaking, you're probably not going to win three

2859
02:18:09,160 --> 02:18:11,360
Speaker 4: in a row, you make the tournament, you probably make

2860
02:18:11,400 --> 02:18:13,760
Speaker 4: it to the sweet sixteen at minimum. Are you telling

2861
02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:16,040
Speaker 4: me that he's not gonna have his pickup NBA jobs

2862
02:18:16,120 --> 02:18:16,480
Speaker 4: next year?

2863
02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:16,800
Speaker 6: Two?

2864
02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:18,920
Speaker 4: And I realized the further and further you get away

2865
02:18:18,920 --> 02:18:21,080
Speaker 4: from winning national championships, the further and further you get

2866
02:18:21,080 --> 02:18:23,000
Speaker 4: away from getting the job that you want. But then

2867
02:18:23,080 --> 02:18:26,720
Speaker 4: not necessarily Billy Donovan was but ten years between winning

2868
02:18:26,760 --> 02:18:30,599
Speaker 4: his national chance. He's back to back titles before you left.

2869
02:18:31,000 --> 02:18:31,840
Speaker 6: I don't think it matters.

2870
02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:33,959
Speaker 5: I think he's still going to be highly coveted.

2871
02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:36,360
Speaker 6: And here's the other problem with the Lakers.

2872
02:18:36,520 --> 02:18:41,760
Speaker 9: And you've touched on this fig and you can tell

2873
02:18:41,800 --> 02:18:43,840
Speaker 9: you want would I give him a long term deal

2874
02:18:43,879 --> 02:18:45,680
Speaker 9: and we're going to turn the whole franchise over to

2875
02:18:45,760 --> 02:18:46,360
Speaker 9: Danny Hurley.

2876
02:18:47,400 --> 02:18:51,280
Speaker 6: There's two things that's a problem. One, it's not a

2877
02:18:51,320 --> 02:18:52,199
Speaker 6: straight rebuilt.

2878
02:18:52,840 --> 02:18:56,240
Speaker 9: You have to get through Lebron in the next two

2879
02:18:56,320 --> 02:19:01,480
Speaker 9: years before you get to the rebuilt. So now once

2880
02:19:01,560 --> 02:19:05,320
Speaker 9: you're in year four this thing and you're just beginning

2881
02:19:05,360 --> 02:19:11,080
Speaker 9: your rebuild and it's slow on the trajectory, then people

2882
02:19:11,160 --> 02:19:15,400
Speaker 9: lose patience. I thought Danny Hurley was the savior, right,

2883
02:19:15,640 --> 02:19:17,520
Speaker 9: and then you go, well, I had to go through

2884
02:19:17,600 --> 02:19:20,640
Speaker 9: Lebron and then get to a rebuild before I can

2885
02:19:20,720 --> 02:19:22,199
Speaker 9: even think about winning.

2886
02:19:22,600 --> 02:19:24,959
Speaker 4: And you know what the perfect example of that this happened.

2887
02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:27,320
Speaker 4: I saw this movie play itself out with Byron Scott.

2888
02:19:27,680 --> 02:19:30,600
Speaker 4: Byron Scott was hired in Kobe Bryant's last three seasons,

2889
02:19:30,640 --> 02:19:33,320
Speaker 4: and they'd explicitly told him, we want you to see

2890
02:19:33,360 --> 02:19:35,240
Speaker 4: through the end of Kobe and then have a young

2891
02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:37,280
Speaker 4: team and rebuild for that just know we're going to

2892
02:19:37,320 --> 02:19:39,880
Speaker 4: take our lumps early. And Byron said, cool, I'm fine

2893
02:19:39,879 --> 02:19:42,200
Speaker 4: with that. Two years into what they fired him and

2894
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:43,039
Speaker 4: win a different direction.

2895
02:19:43,480 --> 02:19:43,720
Speaker 6: Yep.

2896
02:19:44,720 --> 02:19:46,520
Speaker 4: I've seen the movie play out before, and that's what

2897
02:19:46,640 --> 02:19:50,160
Speaker 4: makes this timing situation so difficult. If I knew Lebron

2898
02:19:50,200 --> 02:19:53,120
Speaker 4: James was retiring this offseason, even if I knew that

2899
02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:54,920
Speaker 4: for a guaranteed fact he was going to play maybe

2900
02:19:54,959 --> 02:19:57,280
Speaker 4: one more year and then leave, I feel like I

2901
02:19:57,280 --> 02:20:00,800
Speaker 4: would have more confidence in telling her, yeah, you know what,

2902
02:20:01,200 --> 02:20:03,720
Speaker 4: take the job. It's probably more more secure. But knowing

2903
02:20:03,760 --> 02:20:06,080
Speaker 4: that you have the specter of Lebron for at least

2904
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:08,279
Speaker 4: the next I think two to three years is probably

2905
02:20:08,280 --> 02:20:10,840
Speaker 4: the sort of extension he's gonna sign. Even if they

2906
02:20:10,840 --> 02:20:13,480
Speaker 4: give him an eight year contract, it's still a very

2907
02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:14,400
Speaker 4: tenuous situation.

2908
02:20:15,480 --> 02:20:20,279
Speaker 2: Eight years, fifteen million ish, fully guaranteed, one hundred million dollars,

2909
02:20:20,280 --> 02:20:21,000
Speaker 2: fully guaranteed.

2910
02:20:21,000 --> 02:20:21,680
Speaker 3: I'd take that risk.

2911
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:23,320
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, no, hey, if it's you, and a

2912
02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:23,800
Speaker 5: good point.

2913
02:20:24,120 --> 02:20:25,840
Speaker 4: If he does get fired and it all blows up

2914
02:20:25,879 --> 02:20:27,840
Speaker 4: in his face, he can always go back to college.

2915
02:20:28,040 --> 02:20:28,280
Speaker 6: Listen.

2916
02:20:28,360 --> 02:20:30,240
Speaker 4: He can be Cattle, he can be Patino, he can

2917
02:20:30,280 --> 02:20:31,720
Speaker 4: be any of those guys that flamed out in the

2918
02:20:31,840 --> 02:20:34,200
Speaker 4: NBA and get whatever pick of a college job that

2919
02:20:34,240 --> 02:20:34,640
Speaker 4: he wants.

2920
02:20:35,080 --> 02:20:37,280
Speaker 6: Listen, the money, the money is the money, right, Like

2921
02:20:37,320 --> 02:20:39,920
Speaker 6: the money's going to be there for Danny Harley, that's it.

2922
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:41,920
Speaker 6: You went to national championships. The money's going to be

2923
02:20:41,920 --> 02:20:44,880
Speaker 6: there no matter why. But it's about like what you're

2924
02:20:44,879 --> 02:20:47,520
Speaker 6: going to do career wise, Like you're going to throw

2925
02:20:47,560 --> 02:20:49,879
Speaker 6: it away and go and just to go to the

2926
02:20:49,920 --> 02:20:52,600
Speaker 6: Lakers and say, I coach the Lakers. Well, Darvin hand

2927
02:20:52,600 --> 02:20:55,119
Speaker 6: coach the Lakers, Like what are you doing.

2928
02:20:54,959 --> 02:20:56,279
Speaker 5: Now, Luke Walton coach the Lakers?

2929
02:20:56,840 --> 02:20:57,360
Speaker 6: Exactly?

2930
02:20:57,520 --> 02:20:59,400
Speaker 9: Like all of a suddenly, you know, you're not talking

2931
02:20:59,400 --> 02:21:01,520
Speaker 9: about as much as we talk about the Cowboys. You're

2932
02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:04,920
Speaker 9: not talking about Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson, you know.

2933
02:21:05,120 --> 02:21:09,480
Speaker 6: I mean, at some point you say, well, what's best

2934
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:12,280
Speaker 6: for my career and the other thing is temperament. You

2935
02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:15,760
Speaker 6: guys touched on it. Figure you brought it up, Fitzi.

2936
02:21:16,360 --> 02:21:19,600
Speaker 6: He's not an NBA coach those dudes.

2937
02:21:20,400 --> 02:21:23,000
Speaker 9: He needs to coach young players and he needs the

2938
02:21:23,080 --> 02:21:30,160
Speaker 9: mold young players, you know. I mean, that's why that's

2939
02:21:30,200 --> 02:21:34,240
Speaker 9: what sour Jay Wright on that thing. I mean it's hard.

2940
02:21:34,480 --> 02:21:38,520
Speaker 9: You really got to check yourself and and check what

2941
02:21:38,560 --> 02:21:42,320
Speaker 9: you're doing. And if you're Dearly Hurley, you want.

2942
02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:42,480
Speaker 6: To do that.

2943
02:21:42,879 --> 02:21:46,959
Speaker 4: I was a Jay would have a better temperament. Dan

2944
02:21:47,040 --> 02:21:49,680
Speaker 4: Hurley would and j wanted nothing to do with it.

2945
02:21:50,200 --> 02:21:55,160
Speaker 9: Exactly. I'll never forget having this conversation. He goes, I

2946
02:21:55,240 --> 02:21:58,520
Speaker 9: want to tell you one time. This is when, uh,

2947
02:21:58,560 --> 02:22:01,640
Speaker 9: this is I don't know. This is during the Sixers thing,

2948
02:22:01,760 --> 02:22:05,760
Speaker 9: and Ben Simmons was still here, and it was like

2949
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:11,119
Speaker 9: JJJJJ give Jay all the money, and they were they

2950
02:22:11,160 --> 02:22:13,720
Speaker 9: would have they would have given him anything he wanted.

2951
02:22:14,600 --> 02:22:17,240
Speaker 9: And he said, I'm going to tell you one I

2952
02:22:17,320 --> 02:22:19,560
Speaker 9: was real close with Jay's I don't tell you one

2953
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:20,720
Speaker 9: thing one time.

2954
02:22:20,760 --> 02:22:22,920
Speaker 6: I'm only going to tell you this one time. I'm

2955
02:22:22,959 --> 02:22:27,320
Speaker 6: not interested. I told you this before. I want nothing

2956
02:22:27,400 --> 02:22:28,640
Speaker 6: to do with the NBA.

2957
02:22:28,879 --> 02:22:32,400
Speaker 9: And and you know, he didn't say disparagingly about Ben Simmons,

2958
02:22:32,400 --> 02:22:34,360
Speaker 9: but it was like, do I want to coach Ben

2959
02:22:34,400 --> 02:22:37,760
Speaker 9: Simmons and watching you know a guy who has a

2960
02:22:37,800 --> 02:22:40,720
Speaker 9: cell phone in his sweatpants during practice like that?

2961
02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:43,240
Speaker 6: Nobody these coaches don't want to deal with that.

2962
02:22:43,520 --> 02:22:46,080
Speaker 5: Right, I understand it.

2963
02:22:46,360 --> 02:22:49,199
Speaker 4: I totally understand it to a certain degree, I wouldn't,

2964
02:22:49,320 --> 02:22:51,560
Speaker 4: especially if you are a coach. You have someone who

2965
02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:53,879
Speaker 4: manages egos and all that, and you don't mind that

2966
02:22:53,959 --> 02:22:56,520
Speaker 4: part of it. By all means there's nothing wrong with that,

2967
02:22:56,600 --> 02:22:59,080
Speaker 4: because look, you can be the the sort of you know,

2968
02:22:59,160 --> 02:23:02,800
Speaker 4: overseer that manages egos in the and hires assistant coaches

2969
02:23:02,800 --> 02:23:04,600
Speaker 4: who do the x's and o's for you, right, And

2970
02:23:04,640 --> 02:23:06,840
Speaker 4: that's probably the model, to be honest with you, in

2971
02:23:07,080 --> 02:23:08,879
Speaker 4: the NF In the NFL, I guess the NFL to

2972
02:23:08,879 --> 02:23:11,440
Speaker 4: a certain agree too. But in the NBA these days,

2973
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:13,880
Speaker 4: but that if you want, if you're Danny Hurley, who

2974
02:23:13,959 --> 02:23:16,039
Speaker 4: to your point, Anthony seems to be more of just

2975
02:23:16,080 --> 02:23:19,360
Speaker 4: like an actual hands on coach. I just don't know

2976
02:23:19,400 --> 02:23:21,480
Speaker 4: if it's a good fit, and especially I don't know

2977
02:23:21,480 --> 02:23:23,720
Speaker 4: if it's a good fit considering this current iteration of

2978
02:23:23,760 --> 02:23:24,240
Speaker 4: the Lakers.

2979
02:23:24,560 --> 02:23:27,800
Speaker 6: Yep, all right, fellas, get to quick TL We'll come

2980
02:23:27,879 --> 02:23:34,960
Speaker 6: right back right here every week Fox Sports Radio. Fellas

2981
02:23:37,560 --> 02:23:42,000
Speaker 6: Jason fitz Kevin figures of Anthony Gargana, Uh, time to

2982
02:23:42,400 --> 02:23:48,680
Speaker 6: look at sports from a betting standpoint. Johnny Goss the brain,

2983
02:23:49,480 --> 02:23:53,840
Speaker 6: Brad Fineberg the brain of course, uh, one of the

2984
02:23:53,840 --> 02:23:56,360
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2985
02:23:56,360 --> 02:24:00,400
Speaker 6: bets dot Com or at Brad's Best Bets on Twitter.

2986
02:24:00,440 --> 02:24:02,240
Speaker 6: Good morning, Brain, How are you, buddy?

2987
02:24:03,080 --> 02:24:04,560
Speaker 11: Good to be back, Anthony? How are you?

2988
02:24:05,240 --> 02:24:07,360
Speaker 6: Tell the Tell the boys where you've been.

2989
02:24:08,400 --> 02:24:10,680
Speaker 11: I know, I've had a couple of good trips. I

2990
02:24:10,959 --> 02:24:15,320
Speaker 11: was in uh Hawaii for like almost a week, was

2991
02:24:15,360 --> 02:24:19,560
Speaker 11: in La was in uh Lake Tahoe. And I'm going

2992
02:24:19,640 --> 02:24:24,480
Speaker 11: on Sunday, Anthony, I will be going to Saint Barts. So, uh,

2993
02:24:24,720 --> 02:24:28,480
Speaker 11: I got u you know some good stuff.

2994
02:24:28,920 --> 02:24:34,040
Speaker 3: Life is good. I mean, let's go maybe like yacht life.

2995
02:24:34,080 --> 02:24:35,720
Speaker 2: Like at this point, the big grains live in the

2996
02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:37,680
Speaker 2: yacht life. That's the only conclusion from this.

2997
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:42,360
Speaker 11: Like yeats, hey, you gotta do something with the winning's right?

2998
02:24:43,160 --> 02:24:49,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, God bless you, man, God bless you.

2999
02:24:49,840 --> 02:24:50,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

3000
02:24:50,320 --> 02:24:55,120
Speaker 9: Let's start off with the NBA and you know kind

3001
02:24:55,120 --> 02:24:58,080
Speaker 9: of your read on Game one? I guess Game two

3002
02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:04,200
Speaker 9: tomorrow night is uh Boston is seven. It's a healthy number, man,

3003
02:25:04,240 --> 02:25:05,440
Speaker 9: it's a fat number.

3004
02:25:06,440 --> 02:25:09,480
Speaker 11: Yeah. Look, Anthony, I like to Dallas in Game one.

3005
02:25:09,720 --> 02:25:12,040
Speaker 11: I was wrong. I don't think I'm being stubborn here.

3006
02:25:12,040 --> 02:25:14,960
Speaker 11: I really don't. I do like Dallas even more. In

3007
02:25:15,040 --> 02:25:20,240
Speaker 11: Game two, it was, look, it was interesting strategy about

3008
02:25:20,280 --> 02:25:24,119
Speaker 11: how Boston played Luca and they just, you know, look,

3009
02:25:24,200 --> 02:25:26,240
Speaker 11: only it won't assist, which I'm sure you know is

3010
02:25:26,280 --> 02:25:29,200
Speaker 11: his career low. They just really didn't double team them

3011
02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:32,000
Speaker 11: and basically said, listen, you know we were going to

3012
02:25:32,280 --> 02:25:34,720
Speaker 11: make it where you know, and if I know, you

3013
02:25:34,760 --> 02:25:37,640
Speaker 11: always talk about it, you know, like let the one

3014
02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:41,640
Speaker 11: guy have his great game and like kind of like

3015
02:25:41,720 --> 02:25:45,440
Speaker 11: try to stop everyone else. And that strategy seems to

3016
02:25:45,640 --> 02:25:49,080
Speaker 11: work more than it doesn't in these NBA games where

3017
02:25:49,360 --> 02:25:51,320
Speaker 11: if one guy goes off but no one else does,

3018
02:25:51,360 --> 02:25:53,000
Speaker 11: it doesn't seem like the rest of the team does

3019
02:25:53,040 --> 02:25:57,480
Speaker 11: so great. You look to give credit to Boston in

3020
02:25:57,520 --> 02:26:01,840
Speaker 11: game one, Porzingis was terrific off the bench and they

3021
02:26:01,920 --> 02:26:04,840
Speaker 11: played a great game. But I don't think Dallas was

3022
02:26:04,840 --> 02:26:07,800
Speaker 11: a fluke. I really don't. The first game in the

3023
02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:09,960
Speaker 11: play against the Clippers, they did its exact same thing.

3024
02:26:10,360 --> 02:26:13,240
Speaker 11: They lost by thirty or thirty five points or whatnot,

3025
02:26:13,760 --> 02:26:15,720
Speaker 11: and they've come back and had a great playoffs. They

3026
02:26:16,040 --> 02:26:20,440
Speaker 11: smoke with the Clippers and then obviously beat Minnesota, and Okay, see,

3027
02:26:20,920 --> 02:26:22,320
Speaker 11: I think this can be a good I think Dallas

3028
02:26:22,400 --> 02:26:24,120
Speaker 11: is going to win game too, and I certainly think

3029
02:26:24,160 --> 02:26:27,040
Speaker 11: the game will be within seven. And I like Dallas

3030
02:26:27,080 --> 02:26:29,040
Speaker 11: getting seven here. I think they're very live to not

3031
02:26:29,080 --> 02:26:32,040
Speaker 11: only cover the game, but to win out right. I

3032
02:26:32,080 --> 02:26:35,080
Speaker 11: think we'll see a much stronger better performance over them.

3033
02:26:35,120 --> 02:26:37,400
Speaker 11: And there's still I'm going to make this Boston team

3034
02:26:37,480 --> 02:26:39,400
Speaker 11: do it one more time before I really trust this

3035
02:26:39,440 --> 02:26:43,120
Speaker 11: team fully in what they're doing.

3036
02:26:44,120 --> 02:26:46,240
Speaker 2: So with that being said, does that pull back your

3037
02:26:46,240 --> 02:26:48,280
Speaker 2: expectations for Brown and Tatum in this game?

3038
02:26:49,560 --> 02:26:52,760
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, I mean, listen, it's it's I actually

3039
02:26:52,800 --> 02:26:56,080
Speaker 11: do have. I do like. One of the props I

3040
02:26:56,120 --> 02:26:59,680
Speaker 11: did like was Jalen Brown over two and a half assists,

3041
02:27:00,040 --> 02:27:02,640
Speaker 11: and I bet it's one about almost you know, two thirds.

3042
02:27:02,400 --> 02:27:03,080
Speaker 6: The year this time.

3043
02:27:03,320 --> 02:27:05,360
Speaker 11: That is actually a prop I like. But you know,

3044
02:27:05,520 --> 02:27:09,600
Speaker 11: not necessarily their they're scoring props. They look Boston as

3045
02:27:09,640 --> 02:27:11,800
Speaker 11: a team that what you were saying that they have

3046
02:27:11,879 --> 02:27:15,879
Speaker 11: so many guys that can score, between Brown and Holiday

3047
02:27:16,040 --> 02:27:20,880
Speaker 11: and White and Tatum porzingis it. They's a kind of

3048
02:27:20,879 --> 02:27:24,000
Speaker 11: team that doesn't necessarily rely on one guy. They have

3049
02:27:24,520 --> 02:27:27,560
Speaker 11: that's slow of good players. So no, it's not necessarily

3050
02:27:27,600 --> 02:27:30,160
Speaker 11: that I think that those guys aren't going to do well.

3051
02:27:30,200 --> 02:27:32,840
Speaker 11: I just think more Dallas will perform better than they

3052
02:27:32,879 --> 02:27:36,360
Speaker 11: did last game, more than Boston not being good. I

3053
02:27:36,400 --> 02:27:38,920
Speaker 11: just thought we saw Dallas' worst game of the playoffs

3054
02:27:38,920 --> 02:27:39,800
Speaker 11: in game one.

3055
02:27:41,760 --> 02:27:46,440
Speaker 9: So how do you see gamescript? How do you see

3056
02:27:46,560 --> 02:27:51,640
Speaker 9: Kyrie bounce back? Because to me, the whole Thames Yeah,

3057
02:27:51,760 --> 02:27:56,400
Speaker 9: like it goes back to to him and he there's

3058
02:27:56,440 --> 02:28:00,920
Speaker 9: no they have no prayer unless he's does he comes

3059
02:28:00,920 --> 02:28:02,480
Speaker 9: to play no Athony, Well.

3060
02:28:02,400 --> 02:28:06,240
Speaker 11: Look, we talked to him. It will be interesting, somewhat

3061
02:28:06,240 --> 02:28:09,440
Speaker 11: of a referendum. I mean, let's be fair about on

3062
02:28:09,640 --> 02:28:12,080
Speaker 11: kid and his adjustments, what he's going to do in

3063
02:28:12,120 --> 02:28:14,560
Speaker 11: game two, seeing what happened in game one. And that

3064
02:28:14,720 --> 02:28:16,240
Speaker 11: was the thing I was going to say, is I

3065
02:28:16,800 --> 02:28:21,720
Speaker 11: really think that if I'm that staff, I'm like, okay, listen,

3066
02:28:21,800 --> 02:28:25,680
Speaker 11: we know Luca's going to get his regardless of anything. Okay,

3067
02:28:26,120 --> 02:28:29,200
Speaker 11: he's you know, but someone like Kyrie, who's obviously an

3068
02:28:29,240 --> 02:28:33,040
Speaker 11: incredibly gifted player and all praying great, he needs to

3069
02:28:33,040 --> 02:28:35,640
Speaker 11: score twenty five plus to me in this game, I mean,

3070
02:28:35,640 --> 02:28:39,119
Speaker 11: I think that they really need that kind of Kyrie irving.

3071
02:28:39,440 --> 02:28:41,960
Speaker 11: They can't win with him scoring twelve points. You know,

3072
02:28:42,280 --> 02:28:44,160
Speaker 11: an a game against this Boston team.

3073
02:28:44,360 --> 02:28:44,760
Speaker 6: No way.

3074
02:28:45,120 --> 02:28:48,320
Speaker 11: So I think that I would think that he would

3075
02:28:48,320 --> 02:28:51,840
Speaker 11: come out theoretically more aggressively and be a much bigger

3076
02:28:51,879 --> 02:28:53,680
Speaker 11: part of the offense than he was in Game one.

3077
02:28:53,959 --> 02:28:56,000
Speaker 11: His old Roger I think was twenty three and a

3078
02:28:56,040 --> 02:28:57,880
Speaker 11: half or twenty two and a half. I lean to

3079
02:28:57,920 --> 02:28:59,640
Speaker 11: the old. I didn't give it up to my clients,

3080
02:28:59,680 --> 02:29:02,640
Speaker 11: but only because I just think it's so it's so

3081
02:29:02,720 --> 02:29:05,920
Speaker 11: important in paramount for this team to have Kyrie have

3082
02:29:06,040 --> 02:29:08,080
Speaker 11: a much better game than what he give in Game one.

3083
02:29:09,480 --> 02:29:11,920
Speaker 2: So when you look at that, at what point do

3084
02:29:11,920 --> 02:29:14,200
Speaker 2: you feel like you can make a larger statement on

3085
02:29:14,240 --> 02:29:16,680
Speaker 2: the whole series? How many games in before you say okay,

3086
02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:18,320
Speaker 2: this is the way I'm comfortable moving forward.

3087
02:29:19,000 --> 02:29:20,920
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, listen, obviously, you have to be willing

3088
02:29:20,959 --> 02:29:23,000
Speaker 11: to adjust to all these things. Each game. There's only

3089
02:29:23,040 --> 02:29:26,720
Speaker 11: best to sevens. Every game is so precious, so to speak. Look,

3090
02:29:26,760 --> 02:29:31,039
Speaker 11: before the series, I thought Dallas would win, like you know,

3091
02:29:31,480 --> 02:29:34,800
Speaker 11: in a long series. Look obviously, look like they held

3092
02:29:34,840 --> 02:29:38,800
Speaker 11: Boston's four and a half to one favorite to win. You know,

3093
02:29:39,000 --> 02:29:41,920
Speaker 11: I'm not again, I'm not giving up here on Dallas

3094
02:29:41,920 --> 02:29:44,560
Speaker 11: at all. I think Dallas is still going to make

3095
02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:47,240
Speaker 11: this a very, very very competitive series.

3096
02:29:47,680 --> 02:29:47,880
Speaker 10: Uh.

3097
02:29:47,920 --> 02:29:50,080
Speaker 11: And again I told I like Dallas in game two,

3098
02:29:50,160 --> 02:29:53,039
Speaker 11: and again now Dallas gets there, you know what's kick

3099
02:29:53,120 --> 02:29:55,480
Speaker 11: their teeth kicked in game two. I mean, obviously I

3100
02:29:56,040 --> 02:29:58,920
Speaker 11: certainly were evaluate. I'm sure probably changed my opinion at

3101
02:29:58,959 --> 02:30:01,039
Speaker 11: that point the probably not going to beat Boston four

3102
02:30:01,040 --> 02:30:05,760
Speaker 11: to five games. But I've watched this, you know, all

3103
02:30:05,840 --> 02:30:08,360
Speaker 11: these games in these playoffs extremely closely, just like I'm

3104
02:30:08,360 --> 02:30:13,320
Speaker 11: sure you guys have, and that was probably a Boston

3105
02:30:13,360 --> 02:30:15,960
Speaker 11: not probably. I think that was Boston's best performance. And

3106
02:30:15,959 --> 02:30:18,360
Speaker 11: again maybe it was just as simple, guys as having

3107
02:30:19,280 --> 02:30:21,840
Speaker 11: Chris Steps pushing us back, and that just changed everything

3108
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:24,720
Speaker 11: where now this team can't be beaten because they now

3109
02:30:24,800 --> 02:30:28,080
Speaker 11: have their entire full complement of stars. But again, I'm

3110
02:30:28,120 --> 02:30:30,440
Speaker 11: going to make them keep showing me at least one

3111
02:30:30,480 --> 02:30:33,960
Speaker 11: more time that they really are eight points better than

3112
02:30:34,000 --> 02:30:36,600
Speaker 11: the Dallas and ever extend to me. They beat Oklahoma City,

3113
02:30:36,800 --> 02:30:39,440
Speaker 11: beat Minnesota, beat the Clippers, beat the three best teams

3114
02:30:39,440 --> 02:30:41,959
Speaker 11: in the West besides them, I guess Denver. But my

3115
02:30:42,040 --> 02:30:45,600
Speaker 11: point being is all with much better competition, I still

3116
02:30:45,720 --> 02:30:47,560
Speaker 11: just think Dallas is going to keep this make this

3117
02:30:47,640 --> 02:30:48,400
Speaker 11: a close series.

3118
02:30:49,440 --> 02:30:49,680
Speaker 6: NH.

3119
02:30:49,720 --> 02:30:54,640
Speaker 9: Shelton, I game one, Stanley Copp, how do you play that?

3120
02:30:55,720 --> 02:30:58,400
Speaker 11: You know, it's interesting to me. I was really surprised

3121
02:30:58,400 --> 02:31:00,160
Speaker 11: I had a future on the Oilers to win the

3122
02:31:00,200 --> 02:31:03,640
Speaker 11: Cup at twelve to one, and I was going to

3123
02:31:03,720 --> 02:31:06,680
Speaker 11: hedge this thing fully and I really thought Edmonton would

3124
02:31:06,680 --> 02:31:09,560
Speaker 11: be a slight favorite in the series. That obviously is

3125
02:31:09,600 --> 02:31:12,199
Speaker 11: not the case. I mean, all the money's coming on Florida.

3126
02:31:13,480 --> 02:31:16,280
Speaker 11: I've been a little bit surprised by that. I really have.

3127
02:31:16,440 --> 02:31:18,920
Speaker 11: I think this series is a fifty to fifty series.

3128
02:31:19,280 --> 02:31:22,400
Speaker 11: I think it's a very close series. Edmonton has actually

3129
02:31:22,400 --> 02:31:25,840
Speaker 11: gotten tremendous cold tending play, which has been really one

3130
02:31:25,840 --> 02:31:28,280
Speaker 11: of the keys. And obviously we know about Tricydle and

3131
02:31:28,440 --> 02:31:32,400
Speaker 11: McDavid and their great star power. But I look, I

3132
02:31:32,440 --> 02:31:36,320
Speaker 11: know Florida's really good and it's their second finals in

3133
02:31:36,320 --> 02:31:39,080
Speaker 11: a row, and I guess I see the moving in

3134
02:31:39,480 --> 02:31:41,880
Speaker 11: hick them, but I'm just surprised that they're this big

3135
02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:43,640
Speaker 11: of a favorite. I only can lean ed mckinn. I

3136
02:31:43,640 --> 02:31:46,879
Speaker 11: think it's a very close series, but I think it's

3137
02:31:46,879 --> 02:31:49,120
Speaker 11: at least fifty to fifty, and I'll lean to the

3138
02:31:49,160 --> 02:31:50,360
Speaker 11: dog getting a nice price.

3139
02:31:51,800 --> 02:31:54,560
Speaker 2: Do you just do travel in that series factor into

3140
02:31:54,600 --> 02:31:55,560
Speaker 2: anything that you're.

3141
02:31:55,400 --> 02:31:58,600
Speaker 11: Looking at, You know, look, obviously it's interesting because I

3142
02:31:58,680 --> 02:32:01,520
Speaker 11: was looking even like I was curious because my my

3143
02:32:01,640 --> 02:32:03,360
Speaker 11: son is like, well, I wanted to go so much

3144
02:32:03,720 --> 02:32:08,680
Speaker 11: to a game in Edmonton. I'll do the coolest thing out.

3145
02:32:08,680 --> 02:32:10,320
Speaker 11: I'm like, yeah, would be, but it's like, yeah, the

3146
02:32:10,400 --> 02:32:12,680
Speaker 11: travel time they get to Edmonton, I was like, oh

3147
02:32:12,760 --> 02:32:15,640
Speaker 11: my god, it is. It's it's it's a real thing.

3148
02:32:16,760 --> 02:32:20,000
Speaker 11: It is. How will it affect it? I don't know

3149
02:32:20,120 --> 02:32:23,440
Speaker 11: if I'm know exactly in what way it's going to

3150
02:32:23,520 --> 02:32:25,240
Speaker 11: affect it in terms of whether it'll be a higher

3151
02:32:25,280 --> 02:32:28,280
Speaker 11: score game, lower scoring game, Will one team need more

3152
02:32:28,400 --> 02:32:32,240
Speaker 11: tired than the next? Not really short, But again I

3153
02:32:32,280 --> 02:32:35,600
Speaker 11: do understand that that is a tough travel to go

3154
02:32:35,640 --> 02:32:39,120
Speaker 11: to Edmonton for that game and for the series. So

3155
02:32:39,640 --> 02:32:43,199
Speaker 11: but again, because this Stanley Cup guys, and these guys

3156
02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:46,000
Speaker 11: awaited all year to get to this moment, I'm sure

3157
02:32:46,360 --> 02:32:48,720
Speaker 11: the adrenaline or whatnot will get them up for the

3158
02:32:48,720 --> 02:32:51,000
Speaker 11: game for sure, even if they're a little bit tired.

3159
02:32:51,840 --> 02:32:53,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like I do.

3160
02:32:55,440 --> 02:32:57,240
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean again, I think it's at least fifty

3161
02:32:57,240 --> 02:33:00,359
Speaker 11: to fifty as they said, yeah, it takes the price, and.

3162
02:33:00,160 --> 02:33:01,959
Speaker 6: I know all the money's coming on Florida. I was

3163
02:33:01,959 --> 02:33:03,080
Speaker 6: surprised at it too.

3164
02:33:03,400 --> 02:33:07,840
Speaker 11: So I thought you did, And I got to be honest,

3165
02:33:08,040 --> 02:33:10,160
Speaker 11: I really was surprised, Anthony, what you said. I was

3166
02:33:10,160 --> 02:33:13,920
Speaker 11: surprised the money, even like the recreational money. Like again,

3167
02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:17,080
Speaker 11: like the people who don't know they're all betting Florida

3168
02:33:17,080 --> 02:33:25,000
Speaker 11: and then me, it's like, yeah, exactly, Like when I

3169
02:33:25,080 --> 02:33:28,160
Speaker 11: make these bets, these future bets, I'm always thinking, this

3170
02:33:28,200 --> 02:33:30,360
Speaker 11: is what I'm'm always thinking, Okay, what's going to happen.

3171
02:33:30,360 --> 02:33:31,879
Speaker 11: If the team gets I could take Team to win

3172
02:33:31,920 --> 02:33:33,600
Speaker 11: the West or take Gave to win the title, then

3173
02:33:33,600 --> 02:33:35,800
Speaker 11: what's stay up? And I'm like, okay, if everything gets

3174
02:33:35,920 --> 02:33:37,520
Speaker 11: the finals, will be a public team. Because they have

3175
02:33:37,520 --> 02:33:41,160
Speaker 11: the two most dynamic offensive players in the sport, people

3176
02:33:41,200 --> 02:33:42,920
Speaker 11: are gonna just want to say, you know, they're they're

3177
02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:45,840
Speaker 11: going to take Edmonton. I didn't, so I was like, okay,

3178
02:33:45,840 --> 02:33:47,280
Speaker 11: if they get the semic the finals, I'm gona a

3179
02:33:47,280 --> 02:33:49,880
Speaker 11: team at the favorite. I was very surprised, especially a

3180
02:33:49,879 --> 02:33:52,039
Speaker 11: team like Florida that's more of the they call them

3181
02:33:52,040 --> 02:33:53,760
Speaker 11: like a no name kind of team. They don't have

3182
02:33:53,800 --> 02:33:57,520
Speaker 11: a true superstar, like like a McDavid or something like that.

3183
02:33:57,640 --> 02:34:00,480
Speaker 11: I've been look, I was very surprised that the money

3184
02:34:00,480 --> 02:34:03,760
Speaker 11: he's been pouring in on Florida. But look, it's they're

3185
02:34:03,760 --> 02:34:06,240
Speaker 11: obviously a good team. They out played the Rangers. Shasturkin

3186
02:34:06,400 --> 02:34:09,840
Speaker 11: was phenomenal in that series, but he was really the

3187
02:34:09,879 --> 02:34:12,360
Speaker 11: only one for the Rangers who really showed up. I mean,

3188
02:34:12,360 --> 02:34:16,400
Speaker 11: they got definitely out played. So look, we'll say it

3189
02:34:16,400 --> 02:34:18,680
Speaker 11: should be an entertaining series. I'm actually looking forward to

3190
02:34:18,680 --> 02:34:21,039
Speaker 11: watching it. I actually they go to the game the one,

3191
02:34:21,120 --> 02:34:22,000
Speaker 11: so it should be fun.

3192
02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:27,320
Speaker 6: That's awesome. Real quick, we're up against it, but let

3193
02:34:27,320 --> 02:34:32,040
Speaker 6: me ask you the London series in baseball, Phillies and Mets.

3194
02:34:32,879 --> 02:34:37,480
Speaker 9: The stadium is kind of funky. It's got a really

3195
02:34:37,680 --> 02:34:43,280
Speaker 9: short right field porch. Do you look at stuff like that?

3196
02:34:43,720 --> 02:34:46,640
Speaker 6: You know, like are you looking at and how the

3197
02:34:46,680 --> 02:34:49,720
Speaker 6: bull carries? And is there a play to be made

3198
02:34:49,800 --> 02:34:50,760
Speaker 6: on the over there?

3199
02:34:51,600 --> 02:34:54,600
Speaker 11: Well? I looked at that. It's funny, Anthony, but it's funny.

3200
02:34:54,640 --> 02:34:58,800
Speaker 11: I did give out, and again just how good he's been.

3201
02:34:58,879 --> 02:35:01,360
Speaker 11: I did give out Rangers as far as to get

3202
02:35:01,400 --> 02:35:05,240
Speaker 11: over fifteen and a half outs. I basically done at

3203
02:35:05,280 --> 02:35:07,000
Speaker 11: every game except the game he just got injured with

3204
02:35:07,040 --> 02:35:09,880
Speaker 11: the line drive off his hands. I still think Range

3205
02:35:09,879 --> 02:35:12,039
Speaker 11: as far as finds a way to go past five innings,

3206
02:35:12,360 --> 02:35:14,600
Speaker 11: we will see, but yeah, it certainly can't does have

3207
02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:17,879
Speaker 11: a chance. I was very very close to giving out

3208
02:35:17,959 --> 02:35:21,040
Speaker 11: Minea over two and a half and runs because I

3209
02:35:21,080 --> 02:35:24,000
Speaker 11: think the Phillies lineup should score three plus runs off

3210
02:35:24,080 --> 02:35:28,199
Speaker 11: them today, and yeah it does. I'm definitely leaning towards

3211
02:35:28,280 --> 02:35:33,480
Speaker 11: the over in that because of the stadium configuration and whatnot.

3212
02:35:33,520 --> 02:35:35,680
Speaker 11: And I definitely do think he was probably a decent

3213
02:35:35,760 --> 02:35:37,840
Speaker 11: debt and I like Minea to probably give up over

3214
02:35:37,879 --> 02:35:39,760
Speaker 11: two and a half runs as well, because I think

3215
02:35:39,800 --> 02:35:42,480
Speaker 11: the Phillies lineup should be able to score against in general,

3216
02:35:42,720 --> 02:35:45,160
Speaker 11: and if you add a little bit to the ballpark configuration,

3217
02:35:45,440 --> 02:35:46,600
Speaker 11: you know, it makes sense to me.

3218
02:35:47,160 --> 02:35:50,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, definitely tomorrow because you have Walker pitching for

3219
02:35:50,040 --> 02:35:50,640
Speaker 6: the Phillies.

3220
02:35:50,680 --> 02:35:53,640
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, acquited with that.

3221
02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:59,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, great stuff as always, Brain, enjoy your travels

3222
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Speaker 6: and you're all right, you.

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Speaker 9: Know the man taking eaven Fellas will come back and

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Speaker 9: wrapping up right here on Fox Sports Radio, Fellas Live

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Speaker 9: from thetai Raq dot Com Studios Final thoughts.

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Speaker 6: What struck you boys this morning? For the week ahead?

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02:36:23,040 --> 02:36:24,280
Speaker 6: What are you looking forward to?

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Speaker 9: I will say this, I don't know if you guys

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02:36:25,760 --> 02:36:31,080
Speaker 9: have watched Clipped yet, but there is there's no way

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02:36:31,120 --> 02:36:39,520
Speaker 9: in my mind that Lawrence Fishburn is Doc rivers large.

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02:36:39,520 --> 02:36:46,640
Speaker 9: Fishburn way too cool to be Doc. Doc's not as

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02:36:46,680 --> 02:36:47,920
Speaker 9: cool as Laurence Fishburn.

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02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:50,320
Speaker 6: That's my initial buss.

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02:36:50,400 --> 02:36:52,920
Speaker 3: Who is is good? Like that's a weird casting. I

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02:36:52,920 --> 02:36:56,640
Speaker 3: haven't seen it yet, but Laurence Fishburn is Doc.

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02:36:56,640 --> 02:36:59,200
Speaker 2: Is a little weird because Laurence Fishburn is just wildly

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02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:01,520
Speaker 2: like Lawrence Fishburn is one of those guys that is

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02:37:01,520 --> 02:37:03,240
Speaker 2: so signature styles.

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Speaker 6: Man, you know, I just I don't.

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02:37:04,840 --> 02:37:06,680
Speaker 3: I don't think you. I don't think that's good casting.

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02:37:06,680 --> 02:37:08,520
Speaker 3: I would have gone in a different direction personally.

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02:37:09,640 --> 02:37:15,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, Doc's not that cool. Your thoughts.

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02:37:15,400 --> 02:37:17,840
Speaker 4: I do love Docs and ized guy. I love Doc,

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02:37:17,879 --> 02:37:20,880
Speaker 4: obviously covered him for years. But Laurence Fishburn was an

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02:37:20,879 --> 02:37:21,720
Speaker 4: interesting choice.

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02:37:21,720 --> 02:37:22,240
Speaker 5: I'll say that.

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02:37:22,640 --> 02:37:25,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, I do think Ed O'Neil's Donald

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02:37:25,240 --> 02:37:26,480
Speaker 4: Starling was pretty good though.

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02:37:26,720 --> 02:37:29,760
Speaker 9: Yes, that was very good. Yeah, he's he's really good

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02:37:29,760 --> 02:37:32,600
Speaker 9: at it. He's really good at it. All right, boys,

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02:37:32,680 --> 02:37:35,640
Speaker 9: let's start with a little were looking forward to the

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02:37:35,720 --> 02:37:41,040
Speaker 9: week ahead? Uh, I'll start with you, Fitzie, what are

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02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:43,039
Speaker 9: you looking forward to the week ahead?

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02:37:43,480 --> 02:37:43,720
Speaker 3: Look?

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02:37:43,920 --> 02:37:46,640
Speaker 2: I want this NBA series to turn into something delightful

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02:37:46,640 --> 02:37:48,440
Speaker 2: that I haven't saying it all day. I mean, the

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02:37:48,760 --> 02:37:51,240
Speaker 2: opportunity to see the Oilers and the best player in

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02:37:51,280 --> 02:37:53,160
Speaker 2: the world in the in the Stanley Cup Final, to

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02:37:53,240 --> 02:37:58,880
Speaker 2: me is really incredible for me, just the moment and

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02:37:58,879 --> 02:38:01,279
Speaker 2: what it means and knowing what it means for Canada

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02:38:01,360 --> 02:38:04,000
Speaker 2: as a whole that's been on such a Stanley Cup

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02:38:04,040 --> 02:38:07,760
Speaker 2: Final drought. I mean, for me, there's so many things

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02:38:07,840 --> 02:38:09,720
Speaker 2: that have aligned that are special. It feels like a

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02:38:09,800 --> 02:38:12,199
Speaker 2: Disney movie seeing the Oilers in the Stanley Cup Finals.

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02:38:12,240 --> 02:38:14,520
Speaker 2: So that's sort of my most exciting thing of the week.

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02:38:14,560 --> 02:38:16,520
Speaker 2: That that being said, I would love it if the

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02:38:16,520 --> 02:38:18,440
Speaker 2: MAVs could turn this thing into a series quickly.

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02:38:19,280 --> 02:38:29,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, US Celtic haters would would appreciate that as well. Well,

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02:38:29,320 --> 02:38:32,280
Speaker 9: you got what's going on, fag What you're looking forward

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02:38:32,280 --> 02:38:32,720
Speaker 9: to this week?

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02:38:32,720 --> 02:38:33,440
Speaker 6: Ho's the baby.

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02:38:33,560 --> 02:38:36,960
Speaker 4: Baby's doing great, Baby's doing phenomenal. So we can't complain.

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02:38:37,080 --> 02:38:39,280
Speaker 4: Life is life is good. As far as the week

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02:38:39,280 --> 02:38:41,800
Speaker 4: o the week, I'll say the week end. Also looking

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02:38:41,800 --> 02:38:43,480
Speaker 4: forward to Game two, hoping the Mavericks can make a

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02:38:43,520 --> 02:38:45,640
Speaker 4: series of this, and looking forward to the rest of

3277
02:38:45,680 --> 02:38:48,280
Speaker 4: this Dodger Yankee series if it's anything like a Game

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02:38:48,360 --> 02:38:49,240
Speaker 4: one on Friday night.

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02:38:49,320 --> 02:38:53,280
Speaker 6: That was tremendous last night. How incredible was God? It was?

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02:38:53,360 --> 02:38:58,320
Speaker 9: I mean it was baseball it's best zero zero deep

3281
02:38:58,400 --> 02:39:01,680
Speaker 9: into extras even with the ghosts runner, I mean, it was.

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02:39:02,080 --> 02:39:03,439
Speaker 6: It was fabulous.

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02:39:03,560 --> 02:39:05,720
Speaker 4: So I'm definitely looking forward to the last two games

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02:39:05,720 --> 02:39:08,400
Speaker 4: of that series, along with the NBA Finals. Hopefully we

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02:39:08,440 --> 02:39:11,000
Speaker 4: get ourselves a series here with Dallas getting Game two,

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02:39:11,000 --> 02:39:12,520
Speaker 4: so we'll see what happens and.

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02:39:12,520 --> 02:39:15,680
Speaker 9: So much through the so much for the Hey, third

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02:39:15,720 --> 02:39:17,600
Speaker 9: time through the order, they're going to get to him.

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02:39:18,640 --> 02:39:25,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he he was terrific. He was. He's right,

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02:39:25,280 --> 02:39:26,200
Speaker 6: he got great stuff.

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02:39:26,280 --> 02:39:26,880
Speaker 5: He really does.

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02:39:26,920 --> 02:39:29,560
Speaker 4: He's got after a disastrous start, he's really come into

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02:39:29,560 --> 02:39:29,880
Speaker 4: his own.

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02:39:30,760 --> 02:39:33,480
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, real quick, I know, we got a minute.

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02:39:33,680 --> 02:39:37,080
Speaker 9: I did have one quick thing for you, Uh, Jalen

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02:39:37,160 --> 02:39:41,080
Speaker 9: Hurts did not have Nick Sirianni's back. Twice he was

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02:39:41,080 --> 02:39:44,240
Speaker 9: giving softball questions to do that FITZI, what's that mean?

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02:39:45,720 --> 02:39:48,440
Speaker 2: That means that man I just think Hurts is a

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02:39:48,440 --> 02:39:50,360
Speaker 2: little wired and a little different when it comes to

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02:39:50,400 --> 02:39:52,480
Speaker 2: that stuff, Like he just doesn't I don't know that

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02:39:52,520 --> 02:39:54,280
Speaker 2: he cares about that as much, you know what I mean,

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02:39:54,320 --> 02:39:55,840
Speaker 2: Like that just doesn't seem all the way back to

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02:39:55,920 --> 02:39:58,880
Speaker 2: when I covered him into Alabama, just seeing the way

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02:39:58,879 --> 02:40:01,240
Speaker 2: he approached everything, I think he lives in a bubble

3305
02:40:01,240 --> 02:40:03,040
Speaker 2: of one. A lot of times he's worried about doing

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02:40:03,040 --> 02:40:05,280
Speaker 2: his job and nothing else. So he's not worried about

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02:40:05,320 --> 02:40:06,080
Speaker 2: the fluff questions.

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02:40:06,640 --> 02:40:08,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't know, maybe he cares about his

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02:40:08,920 --> 02:40:11,040
Speaker 6: coach or anybody else really to be honest with them.

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Speaker 5: Well that's a good trait if you're a quarterback.

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02:40:13,520 --> 02:40:16,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, live in the bubble. I guess right, that's

3312
02:40:16,879 --> 02:40:20,920
Speaker 9: where you're supposed to be. It's it's interesting anyway. Thanks

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02:40:20,959 --> 02:40:24,800
Speaker 9: for that insight. Thanks to Mighty Mark and Ian for

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02:40:25,000 --> 02:40:29,720
Speaker 9: producing everybody, Thank you for listening. Have a wonderful week, fellows,

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Speaker 9: Love you, be careful, and we'll see you next Saturday.