WEBVTT - #1094: November 12, 2025 0:00:00.890 --> 0:00:04.680 Knowledge Fire. 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:04.859 Yeah. 0:00:16.180 --> 0:00:21.360 Dan and Jordan, I am sweating. Knowledgefight.com. It's time to pray. 0:00:21.700 --> 0:00:24.000 I have great respect for Knowledge Fight. 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:26.850 Knowledge Fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're 0:00:26.870 --> 0:00:30.110 the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge Fight. 0:00:30.190 --> 0:00:31.190 Dan and Jordan. 0:00:31.290 --> 0:00:32.310 Knowledge Fight. 0:00:32.370 --> 0:00:42.240 Need, need money. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. 0:00:42.460 --> 0:00:42.979 Stop it. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:44.700 Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. 0:00:45.580 --> 0:00:45.800 Andy. 0:00:45.820 --> 0:00:48.720 It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. 0:00:48.740 --> 0:00:49.340 Thanks for holding. 0:00:49.620 --> 0:00:50.900 Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:55.130 I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledgefight.com. 0:00:58.710 --> 0:01:01.529 I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. 0:01:01.570 --> 0:01:01.870 I'm Dan. 0:01:02.030 --> 0:01:02.490 I'm Jordan. 0:01:02.550 --> 0:01:04.520 We're a couple dudes. Like to sit around, worship at 0:01:04.530 --> 0:01:06.259 the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about 0:01:06.580 --> 0:01:06.959 Alex Jones. 0:01:07.340 --> 0:01:08.580 Oh, indeed we are, Dan. 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:08.880 Jordan. 0:01:08.900 --> 0:01:09.200 Dan. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:09.600 Jordan. 0:01:09.620 --> 0:01:10.429 Quick question for you. 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:10.720 What's up? 0:01:10.740 --> 0:01:11.840 What's your bright spot today, buddy? 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.110 My bright spot today is a dilemma. 0:01:14.270 --> 0:01:14.970 A dilemma. 0:01:15.130 --> 0:01:19.770 A pickle. Okay. A paradox. All right. I can't come 0:01:19.810 --> 0:01:20.270 up with more. 0:01:20.290 --> 0:01:20.730 Okay. 0:01:21.370 --> 0:01:22.470 Jelly bellies, baby. 0:01:22.709 --> 0:01:23.589 Yeah. 0:01:23.709 --> 0:01:25.090 I'm a big fan of jelly beans. 0:01:25.390 --> 0:01:26.710 Pickle flavored jelly beans? 0:01:26.810 --> 0:01:26.990 No. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:27.520 Oh, okay. 0:01:27.590 --> 0:01:29.240 I realized as soon as I said I'm in a 0:01:29.260 --> 0:01:31.120 pickle and it was a flavor thing. 0:01:31.180 --> 0:01:32.100 That's going to be a struggle. 0:01:32.220 --> 0:01:35.120 I realized that was how it was going to come off. Yep. No, 0:01:35.220 --> 0:01:38.690 they have some holiday versions. Okay. And I bought a 0:01:38.709 --> 0:01:41.929 pack of eggnog jelly. Jelly bellies. 0:01:42.310 --> 0:01:42.970 All eggnog? 0:01:43.030 --> 0:01:43.290 Yeah. 0:01:43.390 --> 0:01:44.800 Or different flavors of eggnog? 0:01:44.819 --> 0:01:45.580 All just eggnog. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:46.620 All just one eggnog? 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:46.840 Yeah. 0:01:46.940 --> 0:01:51.320 Okay. There was one seasonal mixer, like a mixed up bag, 0:01:51.540 --> 0:01:53.580 but I looked at the flavors and I didn't trust 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:54.410 a few of them. No good? 0:01:54.420 --> 0:01:54.560 Okay. 0:01:54.620 --> 0:01:57.030 I was too scared. All right. Some of them were 0:01:57.050 --> 0:01:59.610 a little bit too autumnal. I'm not interested in a 0:01:59.630 --> 0:02:01.250 pumpkin spice kind of thing. 0:02:01.290 --> 0:02:02.390 No, it's just all spice, man. 0:02:02.690 --> 0:02:06.610 So I got these eggnogs, and they're really good, and 0:02:06.630 --> 0:02:09.230 I really like them. And it's making me conflicted because 0:02:09.270 --> 0:02:12.290 I don't think that I like eggnog, but I think 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.780 I might. Okay. So then the question is, is eggnog 0:02:15.860 --> 0:02:16.380 too thick? 0:02:17.060 --> 0:02:17.690 Right, right. 0:02:17.750 --> 0:02:21.190 Is it a textural difference? Because it's not a flavor-based difference. Clearly, 0:02:21.389 --> 0:02:23.169 you enjoy the flavor of eggnog. 0:02:23.190 --> 0:02:23.950 I think I do. 0:02:24.169 --> 0:02:25.590 Is it that you. 0:02:25.510 --> 0:02:30.030 Heard Dave Attell's joke about it being elf cum 25 0:02:30.030 --> 0:02:30.470 years ago? 0:02:30.570 --> 0:02:32.940 No, I definitely heard that joke, and that doesn't bother me. 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.180 Doesn't bother you at all? 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:34.260 No. 0:02:35.020 --> 0:02:36.139 Pour it on your back? 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.260 Okay. I wonder if it's an issue where I haven't 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.739 had it in a long time, and everybody has just 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:42.940 told me that it's bad. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.780 I can't remember the last time I had eggnog. 0:02:45.820 --> 0:02:45.910 Yeah. 0:02:45.930 --> 0:02:46.060 Yeah. 0:02:46.450 --> 0:02:48.090 I don't think I've had it in 30 years. 0:02:48.150 --> 0:02:50.300 I think this season I'm going to fuck around and 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.420 try out eggnog. Again, see if it is a textural 0:02:54.500 --> 0:02:57.480 issue or if... And there's got to be a workaround. Like, 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.720 I could put milk in it or something. Sure, sure. 0:02:59.750 --> 0:03:03.090 I mean, I am always pro getting drunk in the mornings. 0:03:03.250 --> 0:03:05.450 Let's just be right up front about that. Eggnog doesn't 0:03:05.550 --> 0:03:06.660 always have booze in it. 0:03:06.770 --> 0:03:08.590 It feels like it's supposed to, though. 0:03:08.770 --> 0:03:13.550 No, no, you're just... Your family is a bunch of drunks, 0:03:13.610 --> 0:03:17.910 and they put brandy in there. No, no. Eggnog's a 0:03:17.970 --> 0:03:24.100 sober dish. Okay, okay. Anyway, these jelly bellies are fine. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:25.480 What's your bright spot? 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:30.440 My bright spot is my wife. She was helping her 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.580 mom today. And so she had to go down there 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.350 and I was alone sitting with my dogs. And I 0:03:36.370 --> 0:03:39.070 was just feeling like how lucky and grateful I am 0:03:39.090 --> 0:03:40.150 to have them both in my life. 0:03:40.470 --> 0:03:41.350 That was what I was feeling. 0:03:41.590 --> 0:03:42.550 You have three dogs. 0:03:43.130 --> 0:03:44.830 I was talking about my wife and her mom. 0:03:45.110 --> 0:03:48.500 Oh, yeah. The both confused me. No, no, I get you. 0:03:48.540 --> 0:03:48.940 I get you. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.140 No, I'm always happy to have them. 0:03:51.180 --> 0:03:54.230 But I was feeling it, and I was thinking about it, 0:03:54.270 --> 0:03:57.730 and I know they both listen. So they're going to 0:03:57.770 --> 0:03:59.850 hear this, and they're going to be very touched. And 0:03:59.890 --> 0:04:01.990 so that is my bright spot, is that eventually they 0:04:02.030 --> 0:04:02.970 will have a bright spot. 0:04:03.150 --> 0:04:03.810 Oh, that's nice. 0:04:03.850 --> 0:04:04.070 Yes. 0:04:04.410 --> 0:04:05.380 That's the way I was feeling. 0:04:05.460 --> 0:04:09.260 This has become like, I don't know. It's not 30% 0:04:09.260 --> 0:04:12.460 of your bright spots, but it's a higher number than 0:04:12.500 --> 0:04:12.820 you think. 0:04:13.940 --> 0:04:16.260 That seems to just be communicating to your wife. 0:04:19.250 --> 0:04:21.150 But I don't think that's bad. Sure. I don't think 0:04:21.170 --> 0:04:24.429 that's wrong. I think that's a nice sign. 0:04:24.470 --> 0:04:26.570 I'm just having genuine feelings, man. 0:04:26.690 --> 0:04:29.690 I'm out here just trying to feel and live a life. 0:04:30.830 --> 0:04:34.930 And then, you know, the problem is, right, marriage lasts 0:04:34.970 --> 0:04:37.210 a long time. Can't set the bar too high too soon. 0:04:38.510 --> 0:04:39.680 You know? Sure. 0:04:39.860 --> 0:04:40.040 Right? 0:04:40.180 --> 0:04:42.980 Like, if my batting average is this high, imagine it 0:04:43.020 --> 0:04:45.220 going down. That's way bad, you know? 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.060 Well, I guess. Look, I'm not coming down on you. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:49.960 I'm not saying it's bad. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:50.580 I'm hearing it. 0:04:50.620 --> 0:04:52.380 I've just got to make a show. You know what 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:53.510 I mean? I hear you. 0:04:53.820 --> 0:04:54.180 I hear you. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:55.180 You can't just be like, I love my wife. 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.700 Tone it down on the wife talk, asshole. No, no, no, no, no. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:04:59.330 I get it. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.080 Keep it going. I think it's a great thing. But 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:02.830 just expect me to comment. 0:05:02.850 --> 0:05:04.920 Fair enough. Fair enough. I'll accept it. 0:05:04.950 --> 0:05:08.290 I'll accept it. And I applaud and approve. And I'm 0:05:08.370 --> 0:05:09.570 thrilled for your bright spot. 0:05:09.589 --> 0:05:11.800 Get out of here. 0:05:12.460 --> 0:05:17.410 So I guess if you have to escalate. Yeah. What 0:05:17.450 --> 0:05:19.130 are you going to do? If I have to escalate 0:05:19.250 --> 0:05:22.310 from here? Every time is going to be a shout out? 0:05:22.330 --> 0:05:25.450 It can't be frequency. It's got to be some other thing. 0:05:25.470 --> 0:05:27.410 You're going to have to write a song. I mean, yeah, 0:05:27.510 --> 0:05:28.969 it's going to have to be at that level. 0:05:29.810 --> 0:05:33.110 The performance is going to have to increase because the 0:05:33.170 --> 0:05:33.909 frequency can't. 0:05:34.230 --> 0:05:35.350 Otherwise, that'll be boring. 0:05:35.390 --> 0:05:38.910 These are the demands that keep me from marriage. Keep 0:05:38.930 --> 0:05:39.529 me single. 0:05:39.790 --> 0:05:41.490 It's tough. What are you going to do? What are 0:05:41.510 --> 0:05:42.950 you going to do? I don't know. Where are we 0:05:43.029 --> 0:05:43.970 at five years from now? 0:05:44.730 --> 0:05:47.190 I look forward to seeing whatever your creativity brings about. 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.900 So today, Jordan, we have an episode to do that sucks. 0:05:52.140 --> 0:05:52.660 Oh, great. 0:05:52.779 --> 0:05:53.460 It always sucks. 0:05:53.660 --> 0:05:54.580 It does always suck. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:54.820 Yeah. 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.380 It's always bad. It sucks to hear Alex. It sucks 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.930 that he isn't being smote. Sure. Sure. 0:06:01.029 --> 0:06:02.410 There is an existence problem. 0:06:02.470 --> 0:06:02.710 Yeah. 0:06:02.970 --> 0:06:05.870 We're going to talk about November 12th, 2025 on his show. 0:06:05.890 --> 0:06:10.110 But first. 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You're an Iowa technocrat. 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.740 I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.900 mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, sodomite sent 0:07:10.940 --> 0:07:15.240 me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:20.440 has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.380 titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I 0:07:23.420 --> 0:07:24.780 renounce Jesus Christ. 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:26.850 Rest easy, Don DeGrand Prix. 0:07:26.900 --> 0:07:27.429 Yeah. 0:07:27.990 --> 0:07:31.490 Your watch is over. We will man the wall. See 0:07:31.530 --> 0:07:34.950 you in Valhalla. Oh, Dr. 0:07:35.070 --> 0:07:35.570 Grand Prix. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:36.040 Yeah. 0:07:36.150 --> 0:07:36.640 How you doing? 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.680 He's not good. Not good? No, he's dead. So, Jordan, today, 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:44.000 someone who's not dead, Alex. Someone else who's not dead, Trump. 0:07:44.220 --> 0:07:44.500 Okay. 0:07:44.660 --> 0:07:46.680 Someone who is dead, Jeffrey Epstein. 0:07:48.820 --> 0:07:50.020 The trifecta of shit. 0:07:50.140 --> 0:07:50.440 Yeah. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.450 Okay. So, Trump world has been rocked in the past 0:07:53.510 --> 0:07:57.450 week with the release of a new tranche of Epstein emails. Sure. 0:07:57.590 --> 0:08:00.790 Some of which specifically mention Trump in ways that are 0:08:00.870 --> 0:08:01.910 tough to spin. 0:08:02.090 --> 0:08:02.530 Oh, yeah? 0:08:02.730 --> 0:08:02.830 Yeah. 0:08:02.850 --> 0:08:05.650 Yeah. A lot of this has been fairly overstated by 0:08:05.710 --> 0:08:08.940 people claiming that Trump is the most frequently mentioned name 0:08:08.980 --> 0:08:11.040 in this batch of emails, and that he comes up 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:16.750 1,628 times. That is a true number, but the context 0:08:16.810 --> 0:08:22.050 is misleading. There aren't 1,628 instances of Jeffrey Epstein emailing 0:08:22.210 --> 0:08:25.110 with someone and talking about Trump. That number includes a 0:08:25.170 --> 0:08:27.430 ton of times that Trump's name comes up in the 0:08:27.470 --> 0:08:30.630 body of a news article that someone forwarded to Epstein 0:08:30.670 --> 0:08:31.390 or vice versa. 0:08:31.430 --> 0:08:32.010 All right, all right. 0:08:32.070 --> 0:08:35.199 Similar context to that. Sure, sure, sure. Anybody who's looked 0:08:35.290 --> 0:08:37.980 at discovery material knows that there's going to be a 0:08:38.020 --> 0:08:38.980 lot of shit in there. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.940 It's incidental data that doesn't help anybody with anything. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.760 Yeah, so that number, I've seen it thrown around and 0:08:44.780 --> 0:08:46.020 I think people are making too much out of that. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.500 It's a misleading number by itself. 0:08:47.580 --> 0:08:49.300 Yeah. It's a headline problem. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:49.520 Right. 0:08:50.020 --> 0:08:52.640 So that said, the emails that were released that involve 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:53.740 Trump are weird. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:54.040 Yeah. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:55.540 And I think they make everyone look bad. 0:08:55.590 --> 0:08:56.090 That sounds right. 0:08:56.530 --> 0:08:59.030 So there were three main emails that were getting press 0:08:59.070 --> 0:09:01.310 coverage at the time that Alex is on air on 0:09:01.330 --> 0:09:04.730 this episode. Okay. Two of them were between Epstein and 0:09:04.870 --> 0:09:07.990 author Michael Wolff, and the other was between Epstein and 0:09:08.030 --> 0:09:11.710 Ghislaine Maxwell. Okay. The Maxwell one is the oldest from 0:09:11.850 --> 0:09:12.240 April 2nd, 2011. 0:09:12.230 --> 0:09:12.410 Okay. 0:09:14.190 --> 0:09:16.690 Epstein wrote to her, quote, I want you to realize 0:09:16.730 --> 0:09:20.950 that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump. Redacted victim name, 0:09:21.050 --> 0:09:23.790 spent hours at my house with him. He has never 0:09:23.860 --> 0:09:30.880 been mentioned once, police chief, etc. I'm 75% there. Maxwell replied, quote, 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:32.500 I've been thinking about that. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:32.960 Great. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:33.819 Good stuff. 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.800 This one is the most confusing because it comes down 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.220 to trying to interpret the expression, the dog that hasn't barked. 0:09:42.050 --> 0:09:45.959 There are limited context clues also in this, just this 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.319 tiny exchange as to how Epstein might have meant it. 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:49.700 Sure. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.300 That expression is from detective stories where the fact that 0:09:53.340 --> 0:09:56.750 a dog didn't bark indicated that it knew the burglar 0:09:56.890 --> 0:09:59.949 or murderer who was breaking into someone's house and the 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.780 of Epstein's email, you could look at this a number 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.500 of different ways. One is that Epstein's suspicious of Trump 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:10.160 being a snitch. Epstein knows that Trump has committed crimes 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.160 in his house, and yet no police chatter ever comes 0:10:13.260 --> 0:10:16.520 up about him. So in effect, the police aren't barking 0:10:16.620 --> 0:10:17.800 because they know Trump. 0:10:17.970 --> 0:10:18.140 Right. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.210 The second is a slight variation on that, where Trump 0:10:21.270 --> 0:10:24.150 is protected by the police, but not because he's an informant. 0:10:24.610 --> 0:10:27.190 This would basically follow the same idea, but the lack 0:10:27.230 --> 0:10:29.950 of barking isn't because the police are working with Trump, 0:10:30.250 --> 0:10:33.010 but because Trump is, as Alex might put it, mobbed 0:10:33.170 --> 0:10:36.190 up and a front man for consortiums on the East Coast. 0:10:36.210 --> 0:10:36.390 Sure. 0:10:37.260 --> 0:10:40.000 A third option is that Epstein's using the expression differently 0:10:40.059 --> 0:10:42.579 and is commenting on how no one snitched on Trump, 0:10:42.900 --> 0:10:46.630 which is apparently uncommon among his associates. This could indicate 0:10:46.650 --> 0:10:51.210 that he's saying that Trump is particularly scary to the victims. 0:10:51.710 --> 0:10:56.120 It's very difficult to tell what this means. But it's 0:10:56.150 --> 0:11:00.180 very interesting, but it's also the least useful without context. 0:11:01.100 --> 0:11:03.780 If you add more surrounding details to this conversation, it 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.670 could mean a bunch of different things. and I'm reluctant 0:11:06.710 --> 0:11:09.710 to jump to any strong conclusions about it yet. But 0:11:09.850 --> 0:11:15.179 it's in that same territory as Trump's birthday card, where 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.970 he's like, A friend is a wonderful riddle. Yeah. Like, 0:11:17.990 --> 0:11:19.350 what the fuck do you mean by that? 0:11:19.470 --> 0:11:20.950 I mean, I will say this. 0:11:21.530 --> 0:11:25.449 Of all the, like, extremely wealthy people I have ever 0:11:25.510 --> 0:11:29.270 met in my life, none of them have been able 0:11:29.350 --> 0:11:33.110 to use idioms appropriately. So it is entirely possible that 0:11:33.130 --> 0:11:35.989 this means something completely different from the actual. 0:11:35.690 --> 0:11:37.670 Meaning of the phrase. Yeah. 0:11:37.890 --> 0:11:38.410 It's weird. 0:11:38.710 --> 0:11:39.290 It is weird. 0:11:39.410 --> 0:11:39.610 Yeah. 0:11:39.650 --> 0:11:41.819 It's weird. So the other two emails are a bit 0:11:41.860 --> 0:11:45.449 more direct. These are two exchanges between Epstein and Michael 0:11:45.490 --> 0:11:50.130 Wolff from 2015 and 2019. The 2019 one is just 0:11:50.210 --> 0:11:53.170 Epstein saying, quote, Trump said he asked me to resign. 0:11:53.370 --> 0:11:56.030 Never a member ever. Of course, he knew about the 0:11:56.070 --> 0:11:59.530 girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop. Sure. This is 0:11:59.670 --> 0:12:02.510 Epstein refuting Trump's telling of how he kicked Epstein out 0:12:02.530 --> 0:12:04.470 of Mar-a-Lago as soon as he learned that he was 0:12:04.510 --> 0:12:07.480 preying on children there. Of course, he knew about the 0:12:07.530 --> 0:12:09.720 girls is a tough line to wiggle around. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:10.080 Wow. 0:12:10.970 --> 0:12:14.360 The email from 2015 involves Epstein and Wolf discussing how 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.860 Trump should respond to a hypothetical question from the media 0:12:18.020 --> 0:12:22.440 about his relationship with Epstein. Jeffrey asks Wolf, quote, if 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.900 we were able to craft an answer for him, what 0:12:24.940 --> 0:12:28.260 do you think it should be? Wolf replies, quote, I 0:12:28.300 --> 0:12:30.640 think you should let him hang himself. If he says 0:12:30.660 --> 0:12:32.620 he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.360 that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You 0:12:36.380 --> 0:12:38.839 can hang him in a way that potentially generates a 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.880 positive benefit for you, or if it looks like he 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.540 could win, you could save him, generating a debt. Of course, 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.959 it's possible that when asked, he'll say Jeffrey is a 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.340 great guy and has gotten a raw deal and is 0:12:50.380 --> 0:12:53.300 a victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed 0:12:53.340 --> 0:12:56.800 in a Trump regime. It's worth noting that these are 0:12:56.860 --> 0:12:59.640 Michael Wolff's words, but he and Epstein appear to be 0:12:59.700 --> 0:13:02.470 pretty close, and it's well understood that Trump is involved 0:13:02.500 --> 0:13:05.010 with Epstein in a way that would make hanging Trump 0:13:05.090 --> 0:13:05.830 very easy. 0:13:05.990 --> 0:13:06.150 Right. 0:13:06.740 --> 0:13:08.700 It's common knowledge to them that Trump had been on 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.220 Epstein's plane and been to his house, so if Trump 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.500 were to lie about that, he would be potentially compromised. 0:13:15.420 --> 0:13:19.330 These emails obviously don't tell an entire story, but they're bad. 0:13:19.780 --> 0:13:19.980 Yeah. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.120 Maybe it's not the kind of evidence you'd want to 0:13:22.179 --> 0:13:24.620 rely on to throw someone in jail. But these are 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.439 these are glimpses that paint a pretty clear picture that 0:13:27.460 --> 0:13:29.900 Trump's not someone who should be trusted in a position 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.780 of power. Sure. Epstein calling him the dog that didn't 0:13:32.860 --> 0:13:35.660 bark and war gaming with Michael Wolff about how best 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.400 to exploit their association. They're not definite proof of crimes, 0:13:39.970 --> 0:13:42.190 but they're damning in terms of Trump's character. 0:13:42.290 --> 0:13:42.550 Yeah. 0:13:42.970 --> 0:13:44.449 This is a piece of shit guy. 0:13:44.530 --> 0:13:44.809 Yeah. 0:13:45.370 --> 0:13:46.330 Is Michael Wolff dead? 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.640 I don't know. No, I don't think so. Cause he 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.199 commented on the release of the emails. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:51.380 Yeah. 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:52.160 I think he's still alive. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.660 Was his comment like, sorry, I'm a ghoulish monster who 0:13:55.710 --> 0:13:58.950 worked with a fucking preeminent pedophile billionaire of our time. 0:13:59.610 --> 0:14:01.650 Um, I don't think there's as much soul searching as 0:14:01.670 --> 0:14:02.069 you'd like. 0:14:02.090 --> 0:14:02.750 You don't think so? 0:14:03.050 --> 0:14:05.469 No, I think there's more of like a, I've been 0:14:05.510 --> 0:14:07.650 trying to get this story out for a long time. 0:14:07.730 --> 0:14:07.970 Right. 0:14:07.990 --> 0:14:09.050 Kind of vibe from him. 0:14:09.190 --> 0:14:09.530 Right. 0:14:09.850 --> 0:14:12.870 Which, uh, your mileage may vary in terms of how 0:14:12.910 --> 0:14:13.850 much you. 0:14:13.490 --> 0:14:14.350 Want to trust that. 0:14:14.390 --> 0:14:17.840 So, so totally cool of you to be just emailing 0:14:17.860 --> 0:14:20.020 with Jeffrey Epstein about shit like this. 0:14:20.140 --> 0:14:22.260 I mean, it's, it's a cynical look. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.900 I mean, yeah, that's dark. That is dark. 0:14:26.460 --> 0:14:29.150 Hey man, I need the story is not going to 0:14:29.190 --> 0:14:30.470 cut it for me on this one. 0:14:30.510 --> 0:14:33.550 Sorry. Yeah. I think the stakes of it are so 0:14:33.770 --> 0:14:37.110 comical that I have the familiar tone. 0:14:37.470 --> 0:14:38.010 Oh, totally. 0:14:38.170 --> 0:14:40.630 Of this kind of like, yeah, maybe you could fuck 0:14:40.650 --> 0:14:42.390 Trump up if he lies about you or whatever. 0:14:42.410 --> 0:14:46.920 I mean, listen, if I'm emailing the devil, I'm already 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:48.260 way past it, you know? 0:14:48.340 --> 0:14:50.260 Like, why not have a nice collegial tone? 0:14:50.340 --> 0:14:51.760 And this is in 2015. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:51.980 Right. 0:14:52.060 --> 0:14:54.220 So it's not like, you know, it's way back. 0:14:54.250 --> 0:14:55.020 Nobody had any idea. 0:14:55.110 --> 0:14:57.410 Nobody had any idea that he was a bad guy 0:14:57.470 --> 0:15:00.710 at the time, right? It would be crazy to know that. 0:15:01.550 --> 0:15:03.230 They're even talking about it the fuck off. 0:15:03.430 --> 0:15:06.770 Oh, man. I just think that, like, okay, so these 0:15:06.910 --> 0:15:10.420 emails are not the only ones that will eventually come out. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:10.740 Yeah. 0:15:10.900 --> 0:15:13.060 But they are bad. 0:15:13.420 --> 0:15:13.560 Yeah. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.840 And, like, I get it. I get that, like, we 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.890 can't try someone in a court of law in the 0:15:20.930 --> 0:15:24.190 court of public opinion. Sure. I get that. Sure. Great. Hey, 0:15:24.590 --> 0:15:26.270 I don't want to be a part of cancel culture. 0:15:26.910 --> 0:15:29.620 But we're not talking about just a person. Sure. We're 0:15:29.630 --> 0:15:30.840 talking about a president. 0:15:30.900 --> 0:15:31.060 Yeah. 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.120 We're talking about the leader of the fucking country. 0:15:33.180 --> 0:15:33.720 That is true. 0:15:33.940 --> 0:15:37.020 Him being discussed like this by these creeps. 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:37.360 Yep. 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:39.700 That's bad. That's enough. 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:40.140 Yeah. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.310 He's gone. He should be gone. Yeah. 0:15:42.430 --> 0:15:46.710 You know, it is a problem from a substance standpoint, right? 0:15:47.050 --> 0:15:50.450 If you can get the exact same guy who believes 0:15:50.490 --> 0:15:52.360 the exact same stuff from. 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.060 Just about anywhere off the street. 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.480 but that person isn't a pedophile billionaire who worked with 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.400 Jeffrey Epstein to cover up all those crimes? 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:01.200 You could do that, right? 0:16:01.780 --> 0:16:05.570 Yeah, it's... Should be disqualifying. 0:16:05.690 --> 0:16:06.210 It should be. 0:16:06.370 --> 0:16:06.690 Yeah. 0:16:06.710 --> 0:16:09.890 Just like from a, from a, just like an automatic standpoint, 0:16:09.950 --> 0:16:12.090 like we don't even have a say, you know, that 0:16:12.130 --> 0:16:13.670 should be part of it is that there should be 0:16:13.690 --> 0:16:18.380 an automatic mechanism, much like some sort of a machine 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:19.520 guillotine of some sort. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:19.820 Right. 0:16:20.060 --> 0:16:22.680 That will just take care of the problem for us immediately. 0:16:22.700 --> 0:16:24.460 Now, and let me be clear about something. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:24.600 Yeah. 0:16:25.260 --> 0:16:28.190 I believe that the situation is way worse than what 0:16:28.250 --> 0:16:28.690 I'm saying. 0:16:28.830 --> 0:16:28.930 Yeah. 0:16:29.370 --> 0:16:32.870 I'm going based on these three emails that were released 0:16:32.950 --> 0:16:36.760 and trying to be as fair as I can. Right, right, right, right. There. Right. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.900 I do think it's worse than this. But even if 0:16:40.020 --> 0:16:42.160 you are as generous as possible. 0:16:42.260 --> 0:16:42.420 Yeah. 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:47.140 This is bad. It sucks. Get rid of them. Yep. Anyway, 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.600 Alex comes on air and let's see how he's doing. 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.860 He's probably he's the guy who broke the Epstein story. 0:16:51.900 --> 0:16:53.000 He's going to do great with this. 0:16:53.540 --> 0:16:56.960 Well, exactly what I predicted in the last few years 0:16:57.020 --> 0:17:00.320 and intensely the last year since Trump was president elect. 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:09.550 It's been a year now. Exactly as I predicted. The 0:17:09.570 --> 0:17:16.090 Democrats with some Republicans have begun to. Release select cherry 0:17:16.150 --> 0:17:19.390 picked stuff out of what they call the Epstein files. 0:17:20.970 --> 0:17:23.449 And I know all of it up one side and 0:17:23.470 --> 0:17:25.630 down the other predicted all of it. So did Roger Stone. 0:17:25.670 --> 0:17:28.389 It's exactly what we thought. Now they're set in a 0:17:28.430 --> 0:17:31.730 few days to release all of them in Congress. They're 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.700 a little behind blacking out names and things, which they 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.800 better do of victims. But they released their best shot 0:17:38.900 --> 0:17:43.460 last night. And it's all over the news. And it 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:48.030 is beyond a nothing burger. That said, I am not 0:17:48.050 --> 0:17:50.070 in the business of being an apologist for Donald Trump 0:17:50.109 --> 0:17:53.810 or covering up anything. I simply call balls and strikes. 0:17:54.010 --> 0:17:55.030 Just balls and strikes. 0:17:55.830 --> 0:17:58.580 I believe the last time we heard or the last 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.300 time I recall him giving a grade to the president 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:02.520 of the United States, it was. 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.240 120%. 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.979 No, I think it might have been like 98 because 0:18:08.010 --> 0:18:10.109 he was being conservative. He was in a down mood. 0:18:10.130 --> 0:18:11.110 No, you're right. You're right. 0:18:11.150 --> 0:18:13.210 He was because he was calling. He was just saying 0:18:13.250 --> 0:18:14.230 he calls balls and strikes. 0:18:14.270 --> 0:18:14.550 Yeah. 0:18:14.590 --> 0:18:17.429 So he's only 98% happy with them. Gotcha. 0:18:17.510 --> 0:18:17.750 All right. 0:18:17.869 --> 0:18:19.770 And then I think maybe he's a little bit more 0:18:19.869 --> 0:18:21.990 negative when Nick Fuentes is around because he doesn't want 0:18:22.010 --> 0:18:23.010 to upset the little boy. 0:18:23.130 --> 0:18:23.350 Right. 0:18:23.430 --> 0:18:23.690 Well. 0:18:24.230 --> 0:18:28.010 So I would say nothing too surprising here from Alex. 0:18:28.070 --> 0:18:31.570 That response he decides to go with is like, yeah, 0:18:31.590 --> 0:18:34.550 it's an on story. It's a fun contrast to see 0:18:34.590 --> 0:18:37.430 his response to these emails be it's a big nothing 0:18:37.470 --> 0:18:41.580 burger compared to how he salaciously covered the Pizzagate emails. 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.919 He was digging up food based codes and making up 0:18:45.100 --> 0:18:47.000 all kinds of stuff in order to make those more 0:18:47.060 --> 0:18:49.780 damning to his enemies. But now it's all just nothing 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:50.360 to see here. 0:18:50.500 --> 0:18:50.720 Yeah. 0:18:51.260 --> 0:18:53.480 If you're Alex, you have to know that more stuff's 0:18:53.540 --> 0:18:57.260 coming and that this isn't the last very shady thing 0:18:57.300 --> 0:18:59.060 you're going to have to pretend is a nothing burger. 0:18:59.470 --> 0:19:02.270 So it makes no sense to like why you're not 0:19:02.369 --> 0:19:05.760 shifting your support over to another white identity friendly candidate. 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:06.100 Yeah. 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.939 When you're the guy who made his career by breaking 0:19:08.980 --> 0:19:13.030 into Bohemian Grove, it's really embarrassing to treat the president 0:19:13.070 --> 0:19:17.050 this softly around associations with a sex trafficker. 0:19:17.420 --> 0:19:17.640 Yeah. 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:19.290 Like, this is fucking stupid. 0:19:19.350 --> 0:19:21.050 It's a pedophile billionaire cabal. 0:19:21.270 --> 0:19:24.649 I don't know how else to describe the current government 0:19:25.170 --> 0:19:27.590 than a pedophile billionaire cabal. 0:19:27.710 --> 0:19:29.690 But that's fine, I guess. 0:19:30.340 --> 0:19:33.980 It's not that that is where all power lies. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:34.540 Right. 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.020 But it's more than it should be. 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:37.280 Way more than it should be. 0:19:37.300 --> 0:19:40.620 Any should be no problem. We should be like, no, 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:44.090 there's none. Some, even if it's a small amount, should 0:19:44.109 --> 0:19:45.430 be a huge problem. 0:19:45.810 --> 0:19:48.790 The amount we have currently is beyond. It would be almost. 0:19:49.890 --> 0:19:53.659 Hilarious if in hindsight we find out that trump and 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.980 all of his cabinet like put on robes Absolutely. Like 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.359 chanting weird rituals. 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:00.000 100%. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.379 Alex has just been oblivious. 0:20:01.540 --> 0:20:03.420 It'd be perfect. It would be perfect. 0:20:04.010 --> 0:20:05.570 So he calls balls and strikes. 0:20:05.710 --> 0:20:06.010 Sure. 0:20:06.430 --> 0:20:10.090 And sometimes, you know, like you got to call it 0:20:10.109 --> 0:20:13.520 like you see it. Their response does not look good 0:20:13.740 --> 0:20:15.000 over in the Trump administration. 0:20:16.190 --> 0:20:18.530 The way the Trump administration has handled the Epstein case 0:20:18.570 --> 0:20:20.870 has been an unmitigated disaster. 0:20:20.890 --> 0:20:21.850 Ah, seems great. 0:20:21.869 --> 0:20:23.690 If you wanted to create the biggest dry sand effect 0:20:23.750 --> 0:20:29.100 and look guilty, you couldn't do a better job. That said, 0:20:29.300 --> 0:20:31.860 I know this thing up one side and down the other. 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.200 I've interviewed all the experts. I've got every damn angle 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.540 of this thing. You have all the victims saying he 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:42.440 never touched him. He's the guy that blew the whistle 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:46.620 on Epstein on record. And I have all the videos, 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.200 all the clips, the police, all the admissions, the lawyers, 0:20:49.260 --> 0:20:53.570 the women. I could do four hours with just the women. 99% 0:20:53.570 --> 0:20:55.850 of them are saying they never saw Trump. Two of 0:20:55.869 --> 0:20:59.330 them saw Trump at Mar-a-Lago. Trump got in his face, 0:20:59.369 --> 0:21:01.030 kicked him out of the club because he was recruiting 0:21:01.070 --> 0:21:07.869 the 15-year-old girls out of there. And then, oh, in 0:21:07.890 --> 0:21:11.930 the upcoming emails, it's going to be him in Florida 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:17.359 On two occasions visiting houses. It's already on record. They 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:19.960 were fighting over houses they were buying. That's what Trump does. 0:21:21.420 --> 0:21:25.520 And that's when Epstein got pissed because Trump snuck behind 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:26.859 him and, you know, snatched up a house. 0:21:27.270 --> 0:21:31.330 Oh, OK. So Roger is likely told Alex that Trump 0:21:31.369 --> 0:21:33.869 was over at Epstein's house a lot. And there's evidence 0:21:33.910 --> 0:21:35.830 about that that's going to come out. So Alex needs 0:21:35.850 --> 0:21:36.469 to get ahead of that. 0:21:36.510 --> 0:21:37.210 Yeah, that would be wise. 0:21:37.350 --> 0:21:37.969 This is a very. 0:21:37.850 --> 0:21:40.649 Specific thing Alex predicts is going to be the next attack, 0:21:40.810 --> 0:21:43.270 as if he knows what Trump's associates are worried about. 0:21:43.780 --> 0:21:44.679 Or his weak points. 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:44.920 Yeah. 0:21:45.660 --> 0:21:48.180 Or maybe this is about the already released email where 0:21:48.260 --> 0:21:51.409 Epstein tells Maxwell that Trump spent hours at one of 0:21:51.430 --> 0:21:53.750 the houses with one of the victims. It's hard to 0:21:53.790 --> 0:21:56.850 tell if this is preemptive damage control or just after 0:21:56.890 --> 0:21:57.770 the fact spinning. 0:21:57.810 --> 0:21:58.090 Yeah. 0:21:58.330 --> 0:21:58.890 Not sure. 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:03.800 I mean, if you, okay, I'll say this. 0:22:04.380 --> 0:22:07.679 If I have no knowledge of what might be in 0:22:07.740 --> 0:22:12.760 these emails and I just instinctively go, well, he's probably 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:18.120 not doing this. I'm probably lying, right? And that's probably 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:21.020 good enough already. It might look like I already knew 0:22:21.060 --> 0:22:23.199 in advance what was coming because I just assumed the 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.030 worst possible thing was in those emails, right? 0:22:26.090 --> 0:22:26.240 Right? 0:22:26.570 --> 0:22:29.990 What is the way that we can explain someone looking 0:22:30.130 --> 0:22:33.929 guilty as shit right but they're not right i'll come 0:22:33.970 --> 0:22:39.110 up with that in advance and exactly yeah yeah so 0:22:39.130 --> 0:22:42.310 trump was never in on the cover-up right i i. 0:22:42.530 --> 0:22:46.370 Okay here's where i struggle with this i struggle with 0:22:46.410 --> 0:22:50.780 this whole thing right because i feel like We should 0:22:50.820 --> 0:22:52.480 have already handled this. 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:54.240 We have already reached. 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:58.190 The point where Trump covered up the Epstein thing. They've 0:22:58.250 --> 0:23:01.130 said that that's OK. We'll lick your boots, daddy. 0:23:01.670 --> 0:23:03.610 Now, why are we even bothering? You know what I'm saying? 0:23:03.670 --> 0:23:06.840 No, I totally I mean, look, I don't know what 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.580 it means to take care of something. Sure. But like 0:23:09.700 --> 0:23:13.240 in terms of Alex's position on this, it seems like 0:23:13.260 --> 0:23:14.139 a done deal. 0:23:14.260 --> 0:23:14.500 Yeah. 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.060 Like it doesn't seem like there's any reason to litigate 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:17.760 this any further. 0:23:17.820 --> 0:23:18.500 Why even bother? 0:23:18.580 --> 0:23:18.840 Yeah. 0:23:19.220 --> 0:23:21.550 They've already made peace with the fact that like we're 0:23:21.590 --> 0:23:23.550 going to be complicit in something. 0:23:23.750 --> 0:23:23.910 Yeah. 0:23:23.950 --> 0:23:25.310 We're fucking Michael Wolfing this. 0:23:25.350 --> 0:23:26.510 Who gives a shit? Right. 0:23:26.530 --> 0:23:26.750 Yeah. 0:23:27.210 --> 0:23:30.350 And I think even in this clip, that's what you hear. 0:23:30.869 --> 0:23:33.189 Like Alex is saying like Trump wasn't in on the 0:23:33.210 --> 0:23:33.619 cover up. 0:23:33.650 --> 0:23:33.850 Yeah. 0:23:33.910 --> 0:23:36.770 But now he is. And that's fine. I guess. I 0:23:36.830 --> 0:23:37.830 guess we are. Well. 0:23:39.090 --> 0:23:43.250 And the fact that they released this, and I'm already 0:23:43.270 --> 0:23:44.890 telling you what the other stuff's going to be, which 0:23:44.910 --> 0:23:48.030 they haven't even gotten to yet, I just know, shows 0:23:48.050 --> 0:23:52.350 there's nothing there. But then, my dear Watson, I asked 0:23:52.390 --> 0:23:57.280 the question, why in Hades, why in hell and tarnation, 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.500 hasn't been a big cover-up? Well, we know why. Because 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.080 it's a bunch of big CEOs and a bunch of 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:09.250 big heads of banks. They're mainly Democrats. But Ratcliffe has 0:24:09.290 --> 0:24:10.830 come to Trump, and I was told this when he 0:24:10.850 --> 0:24:15.719 was president-elect from Roger and other people, that you're not 0:24:15.740 --> 0:24:18.820 going to get it because the CIA says it's a 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.180 national security threat because they were working with the Mossad. 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:23.980 And look, we already know all that. So Trump is 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:28.950 not involved screwing the girls, and he was not involved 0:24:30.390 --> 0:24:32.310 in any cover-up ever and was really the first to 0:24:32.390 --> 0:24:35.869 expose Epstein. That's why he ended up getting that jail 0:24:35.890 --> 0:24:39.429 sentence in Florida. And we knew this when I was 0:24:39.510 --> 0:24:41.970 vetting Trump 10 years ago before I endorsed him 10 0:24:41.970 --> 0:24:43.370 and a half years ago. God, it's been that long. 0:24:45.619 --> 0:24:49.220 I went to the books on the subject, the experts 0:24:49.300 --> 0:24:51.240 on it, read what Trump's enemies had said, read what 0:24:51.260 --> 0:24:53.620 the New York Times had said, and there was never 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:57.320 anything there. So I'm like, okay, he's good. That's how 0:24:57.340 --> 0:24:59.219 much due diligence I do, not just on that other subject, 0:24:59.300 --> 0:25:03.219 before I endorsed Trump, remember, early. And I knew how 0:25:03.260 --> 0:25:05.700 he was pro-America and his past and his dad and 0:25:09.290 --> 0:25:10.990 that he sat at the knee of the architect of 0:25:11.010 --> 0:25:13.550 the McCarthy stuff. So I knew he knew a lot, 0:25:14.510 --> 0:25:15.490 and I endorsed him. 0:25:15.510 --> 0:25:16.450 That was your positive? 0:25:16.730 --> 0:25:19.330 And we're going to go over it all today and 0:25:19.369 --> 0:25:21.189 so much more. We have special guests lined up. 0:25:21.630 --> 0:25:24.659 So Alex didn't vet Trump. He was just disappointed by 0:25:24.740 --> 0:25:28.280 Rand Paul's weakness in the 2016 primaries, and Roger came 0:25:28.340 --> 0:25:31.240 along and got Alex to flip. Any research that he 0:25:31.260 --> 0:25:34.220 did on Trump was just asking Roger questions and accepting 0:25:34.260 --> 0:25:38.409 whatever lies Roger fed him. Also, you can't get points 0:25:38.510 --> 0:25:41.159 for never having been part of an elaborate cover-up if 0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:44.660 you eventually become part of the cover-up. If it's true 0:25:44.700 --> 0:25:47.199 that Trump wasn't part of covering up Epstein's shit for 0:25:47.220 --> 0:25:50.300 the past however many decades they've been friends, but now 0:25:50.420 --> 0:25:52.959 that he's president, the deep state has convinced him that 0:25:52.980 --> 0:25:55.190 he needs to cover it all up, then the past 0:25:55.270 --> 0:25:58.669 doesn't matter. According to Alex's telling of the story, the 0:25:58.730 --> 0:26:01.350 CIA has convinced Trump that it's in his best interest 0:26:01.390 --> 0:26:04.550 to be part of the cover-up. That's the best narrative 0:26:04.590 --> 0:26:07.690 that a huge Trump propagandist can come up with for this, 0:26:08.030 --> 0:26:09.290 which seems bad. 0:26:09.470 --> 0:26:09.650 Yeah. 0:26:09.890 --> 0:26:14.010 The deep state has captured the president and I support that. 0:26:14.090 --> 0:26:14.389 Yeah. 0:26:14.550 --> 0:26:17.399 Because it's understandable why he would go along with it. 0:26:17.450 --> 0:26:19.330 I mean, if I was the president and the CIA 0:26:19.350 --> 0:26:21.850 told me some shit, I would obviously cover it up, too, 0:26:21.930 --> 0:26:23.389 because they'll probably kill me. 0:26:23.510 --> 0:26:23.890 Yes. 0:26:23.950 --> 0:26:24.650 Yeah. 0:26:25.050 --> 0:26:29.699 This is a pathetic position for someone like Alex to have. Like, 0:26:29.740 --> 0:26:33.070 it doesn't matter if you're, like, you've been convinced it's 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.230 smart and in your best interest to be part of 0:26:36.290 --> 0:26:37.620 a sex trafficking cover-up. 0:26:37.690 --> 0:26:37.860 Nope. 0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:38.400 You. 0:26:39.050 --> 0:26:41.030 Are now part of a sex trafficking cover up. 0:26:41.050 --> 0:26:44.050 The beauty of, and see, this is the thing. This 0:26:44.109 --> 0:26:44.570 is the. 0:26:44.570 --> 0:26:49.830 Beauty of being a person with a pure ideology is 0:26:49.869 --> 0:26:53.770 that you get to do it, especially when it's dumb. 0:26:54.410 --> 0:26:57.490 You get to be an idiot, right? If the CIA 0:26:57.630 --> 0:26:59.770 is like, hey, you'd be stupid not to do this. 0:26:59.810 --> 0:27:00.429 We'll kill you. 0:27:00.730 --> 0:27:02.350 You get to be the guy who gets killed. 0:27:02.869 --> 0:27:05.820 Because that's what you do. You don't go, well, it 0:27:05.859 --> 0:27:08.120 would be smart this time. Because then you're the guy 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:09.580 who goes, well, it would be smart this time. 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:14.390 Bullshit. Can you imagine any politician that Alex didn't like 0:27:14.890 --> 0:27:18.030 getting the courtesy of, well, the deep state convinced them 0:27:18.090 --> 0:27:20.370 that there would be too many problems if they didn't 0:27:20.410 --> 0:27:23.850 go along with this conspiracy. That's his fucking angle? 0:27:23.990 --> 0:27:27.240 How can you be convinced if you're wrong? 0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:28.500 Or if you're right? 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:29.220 Do you know what I mean? 0:27:29.340 --> 0:27:32.060 If you believe that Donald Trump is right to do 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.159 the thing, but he has been convinced to do the 0:27:35.220 --> 0:27:37.540 wrong thing, then now he is wrong. 0:27:38.220 --> 0:27:41.419 Well, maybe from your position? 0:27:42.060 --> 0:27:44.619 But that's your position! 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.040 Maybe it was in the past. That's fair. Maybe I 0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:47.840 pretended it was. 0:27:49.220 --> 0:27:52.200 I do like the retroactive, like, oh, but he held 0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.000 out so long before he covered it up, so he's 0:27:54.020 --> 0:27:55.020 still a pretty good dude. 0:27:55.140 --> 0:27:56.880 Oh, yeah. That's the standard. 0:27:56.980 --> 0:27:57.699 Yeah. Cool. 0:27:57.859 --> 0:27:58.810 Yeah, he held out. 0:27:59.140 --> 0:28:02.290 So Alex makes up a bunch of stuff here about 0:28:02.350 --> 0:28:05.510 the emails, because he is just calling balls and strikes. 0:28:05.530 --> 0:28:05.980 Just doing it. 0:28:06.310 --> 0:28:10.290 Jeffrey Epstein alleged emails that Trump knew of his conduct. 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.760 Epstein emails claim Trump knew about the girl, spent hours 0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:21.500 with the victim. And we've got the emails, and we're 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:26.940 going to go over all of it. And it just 0:28:27.020 --> 0:28:33.140 so happens that this is not easily disproven, what they're 0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:39.590 trying to imply. It's absolutely, pathetically easy. Hmm. Because we 0:28:39.630 --> 0:28:43.150 know every angle of this from the victims, from their lawyers, 0:28:43.350 --> 0:28:46.460 from everything. And then when you see what they imply, 0:28:47.940 --> 0:28:54.740 spent hours with the victims, knew, ooh, and called the 0:28:54.780 --> 0:28:58.380 police and kicked him out of the club because the 0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:04.100 two victims worked at Mar-a-Lago. And he got pissed because 0:29:04.140 --> 0:29:06.760 he was, MC was poaching him. And when you actually 0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.920 read all the quotes- Are you telling me a positive story? 0:29:08.980 --> 0:29:11.860 Wolf that's trying to write the hit piece, no. He's 0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:15.060 the one who dropped the dime on me, no. Yeah, 0:29:15.100 --> 0:29:20.030 he knew about it and he was upset and his 0:29:20.110 --> 0:29:28.590 wife was upset. We learned Melania was pissed. I mean, 0:29:28.630 --> 0:29:31.030 imagine you live somewhere with your wife. And a bunch 0:29:31.050 --> 0:29:32.870 of other people at a resort, it's like the love 0:29:32.910 --> 0:29:35.180 boat or something. I mean, you see what these dudes 0:29:35.220 --> 0:29:39.250 are doing and, you know, Mama Bear's like, uh-uh-uh, uh-uh-uh. 0:29:40.250 --> 0:29:42.190 Is making things up about the emails in order to 0:29:42.230 --> 0:29:45.530 play defense. It's totally fine to say that the emails 0:29:45.570 --> 0:29:48.680 that were released by this point were not necessarily smoking guns, 0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.660 but it's idiotic to pretend that this is calling balls 0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.560 and strikes. The emails that were released had nothing to 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.520 do with Melania, but the context of Epstein saying that 0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:00.000 Trump knew about the girls is from a sentence that 0:30:00.180 --> 0:30:03.640 also includes the point that Trump asked Ghislaine to stop 0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:05.660 sex trafficking people at Mar-a-Lago. 0:30:05.700 --> 0:30:05.860 Hmm. 0:30:06.340 --> 0:30:08.700 The fact that Trump asked her to stop is proof 0:30:08.740 --> 0:30:11.770 that Trump knew what Ghislaine and Epstein were up to. 0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:14.730 But it's tough to read much more into it than that. 0:30:14.870 --> 0:30:15.050 Yeah. 0:30:15.190 --> 0:30:20.110 So like, yeah, sure. It's him saying stop. But he's 0:30:20.130 --> 0:30:22.030 also he knows what they're doing. It's a it's a mess. 0:30:22.290 --> 0:30:25.450 You know, this is, I think, part of, you know, 0:30:25.490 --> 0:30:27.850 the difference between the way they treated the Pizzagate emails 0:30:27.890 --> 0:30:30.210 and the way they treated these gets to what made. 0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.420 Project Camelot so good at the beginning, right, is because 0:30:33.460 --> 0:30:35.100 I thought they were in it for the love of 0:30:35.140 --> 0:30:35.580 the game. 0:30:36.030 --> 0:30:37.110 There was no agenda. 0:30:37.140 --> 0:30:39.990 They were just here to be a dick about something, 0:30:40.030 --> 0:30:42.210 you know? Like, that's what I want from Alex and 0:30:42.430 --> 0:30:46.710 any transfer of emails about anything. Just fucking pick through, 0:30:47.150 --> 0:30:51.110 make up some cool conspiracy bullshit, yell about it, and 0:30:51.150 --> 0:30:52.030 then we all move on. 0:30:52.290 --> 0:30:53.330 Don't give me an agenda. 0:30:53.370 --> 0:30:55.990 Yeah, your baggage has to be to the weird, not 0:30:56.070 --> 0:30:57.540 to the, like... Yep. 0:30:57.780 --> 0:31:00.980 The real political shit. Yep, absolutely. 0:31:01.500 --> 0:31:04.120 So the fact that Trump asked her to stop in 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.340 that email is proof that he knew what they were 0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:09.260 up to, but it doesn't necessarily seem like he has 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.060 a problem with the actual crimes they were committing. 0:31:12.180 --> 0:31:12.360 Right. 0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:14.300 It seems like maybe it was more of a don't 0:31:14.380 --> 0:31:15.800 do it here kind of thing. 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:16.340 Right, right, right. 0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.340 But even me saying that is reading more into the 0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.070 emails than is written there. Sure. It's making an assumption. 0:31:21.090 --> 0:31:21.290 Sure. 0:31:22.030 --> 0:31:25.130 Epstein didn't tell Wolf that Trump dropped a dime on him, 0:31:25.190 --> 0:31:27.490 but that's one of the many interpretations you can come 0:31:27.550 --> 0:31:30.620 up with for the dog that didn't bark line. Sure. 0:31:30.660 --> 0:31:33.080 But that was also from the Ghislaine email, not from 0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:36.150 Michael Wolf. Right. Point is, Alex is shaky on the 0:31:36.210 --> 0:31:39.050 details here, but his messaging that this isn't a big 0:31:39.090 --> 0:31:43.780 deal is very obvious. And that is all that's important. 0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:44.820 That's his coverage. 0:31:45.100 --> 0:31:50.080 I mean, I just, like, beyond all of these people, 0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:54.290 and I mean fucking all of them, like, just between us, 0:31:54.700 --> 0:31:57.930 the people who regularly do this shit, why not just. 0:31:57.830 --> 0:32:00.950 Get rid of everybody who knew Epstein in the government? 0:32:01.250 --> 0:32:01.510 Yeah. 0:32:01.950 --> 0:32:02.190 Right. 0:32:02.610 --> 0:32:04.990 Like just all of it. We can replace them. There's 0:32:05.100 --> 0:32:06.830 so many of us and there's so. 0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:08.980 Many competent people who would be just as good at 0:32:09.020 --> 0:32:12.260 that job as somebody who knew Jeffrey Epstein, but they 0:32:12.300 --> 0:32:13.660 didn't know Jeffrey Epstein. 0:32:13.780 --> 0:32:14.000 Yeah. 0:32:14.180 --> 0:32:17.160 It's all it. Look, I don't know. I don't know 0:32:17.180 --> 0:32:21.340 how anything works, but right. You know, I agree with 0:32:21.380 --> 0:32:23.900 you that there are capable people who never met. 0:32:23.940 --> 0:32:25.180 Who never met Jeffrey Epstein. 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.239 And maybe we just take a punt on this one 0:32:27.300 --> 0:32:29.260 and say, Hey, look, Sorry. 0:32:29.380 --> 0:32:30.520 Maybe it's not fair. 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:31.200 Maybe you're great. 0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:32.540 Maybe you are great. 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:34.080 Yeah. Sorry. 0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:36.850 You knew Jeffrey Epstein. We can do better. 0:32:37.290 --> 0:32:41.290 An abundance of caution requires us to just quarantine. Absolutely. 0:32:41.370 --> 0:32:42.150 No Epsteins. 0:32:42.850 --> 0:32:45.730 I stayed inside for two years. We can get past 0:32:45.850 --> 0:32:47.780 nobody knows Jeffrey Epstein anymore. 0:32:48.060 --> 0:32:49.979 I think we'll be all right. He's not meeting more people. 0:32:50.140 --> 0:32:53.900 Exactly. Yes, exactly. That problem has solved itself. 0:32:54.140 --> 0:32:54.440 Yeah. 0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:58.860 So this is all like a Democratic setup and shit. Sure. 0:32:59.580 --> 0:33:00.020 Yeah, why not? 0:33:00.500 --> 0:33:04.960 I don't really understand what the larger conspiracy here is, though. 0:33:05.740 --> 0:33:09.370 And so never went to Zorro Ranch, never went to 0:33:09.390 --> 0:33:12.050 the Caribbean, none of it. Like Bill Clinton, all the 0:33:12.070 --> 0:33:16.010 rest of them. That said, though, Trump has been covering 0:33:16.130 --> 0:33:20.490 up for the bad guys. There's no doubt about that. Now, obviously, 0:33:20.530 --> 0:33:23.050 most of the real stuff's been destroyed and disappeared by 0:33:23.070 --> 0:33:24.710 the Democrats and Comey and all of them that control 0:33:24.730 --> 0:33:27.190 the file, and we have big developments on that front. 0:33:27.270 --> 0:33:32.210 It's come out in court that Maureen Comey, the daughter 0:33:32.230 --> 0:33:34.540 that ran the Epstein cover-up in the Southern District of 0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.620 New York, she came to Epstein and said, we'll drop 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.040 the new charges. Just say you saw Trump. Screw girls. 0:33:44.100 --> 0:33:54.640 But it didn't happen. It wasn't real. So that's where 0:33:54.700 --> 0:33:55.140 we are. 0:33:55.580 --> 0:33:58.080 That's where we are. I don't know what this adds 0:33:58.120 --> 0:33:59.190 to the conspiracy. Where are we? 0:33:59.470 --> 0:34:00.330 I don't know where we are. 0:34:01.490 --> 0:34:04.230 So the allegation that Maureen Comey offered Epstein a deal 0:34:04.270 --> 0:34:06.690 to implicate Trump comes from a plea for a pardon 0:34:06.730 --> 0:34:11.049 that was filed by Epstein's former cellmate, Nicholas Tartiglione. In 0:34:11.110 --> 0:34:15.010 other circumstances, Tartiglione has been part of the conspiracy to 0:34:15.110 --> 0:34:18.660 kill Epstein because it was so suspicious that his cellmate 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:20.779 was a former cop who went on to kill four 0:34:20.820 --> 0:34:23.100 people in a drug deal that went bad. How could 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.620 that possibly be? It's too suspicious. He was his cellmate. 0:34:25.660 --> 0:34:26.690 He must have tried to kill him. 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:27.460 That does sound right. 0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.420 He's bunking with a murderer who used to be law enforcement? 0:34:30.460 --> 0:34:31.200 Come on. 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:32.560 That's very murdery. 0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:33.470 Are we stupid? 0:34:34.350 --> 0:34:37.290 As a useful murderer, that's a pretty good murderer. 0:34:37.330 --> 0:34:39.210 Sure. So that was the conspiracy that a lot of 0:34:39.250 --> 0:34:42.530 folks are part of the conspiracy around his death. Sure. 0:34:42.550 --> 0:34:45.280 The people ran with. Right. Anyway, he's doing four life 0:34:45.300 --> 0:34:47.380 sentences for the murders and now he wants a pardon. 0:34:47.460 --> 0:34:49.779 So he's got this story to tell. And Alex is 0:34:49.820 --> 0:34:52.660 in the business of accepting whatever he says as gospel. 0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.520 Balls and strikes. Great. Just calling it down the middle. 0:34:56.739 --> 0:35:01.700 See, this is where I feel like we're having disagreements 0:35:01.739 --> 0:35:02.680 about where we're at. 0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.950 Because where I'm at is, right, if. 0:35:04.930 --> 0:35:10.069 Somebody like Alex goes like, ah, Trump is bad, but 0:35:10.650 --> 0:35:11.410 we should get rid. 0:35:11.330 --> 0:35:14.589 Of these guys first. I'll be like, ah. I'm good. 0:35:14.770 --> 0:35:16.629 Get rid of all of them. Let's just go. Let's 0:35:16.650 --> 0:35:17.930 just be done with this shit. 0:35:17.969 --> 0:35:20.739 You know, like we can't be, I can't be here 0:35:20.780 --> 0:35:23.819 for another, like, Oh, they're covering something up, but it's, 0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:25.460 we're covering up something better. 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.790 That's where we're at. We're at the lesser of two coverups. 0:35:29.110 --> 0:35:29.390 Yeah. 0:35:29.530 --> 0:35:34.279 It's the lesser of two evils, except like it's, it 0:35:34.580 --> 0:35:36.260 it's so bad on its face. 0:35:36.300 --> 0:35:36.620 Yeah. 0:35:36.940 --> 0:35:39.219 That like what you don't need to accept either of 0:35:39.260 --> 0:35:39.680 these evils. 0:35:39.700 --> 0:35:39.859 Yeah. 0:35:39.940 --> 0:35:40.860 What is happening? 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:45.370 Yeah. Um, yeah, I think people are averse to your 0:35:45.590 --> 0:35:52.460 position because everyone understands that. Like if you give an inch, uh, 0:35:54.830 --> 0:35:58.010 it's not going to be dealt with universally. Like you're saying, 0:35:58.050 --> 0:35:59.890 get rid of Trump and get rid of everybody else. 0:35:59.910 --> 0:36:00.109 Sure. 0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:00.700 Sure. Sure. 0:36:00.860 --> 0:36:01.070 Yeah. 0:36:01.219 --> 0:36:03.420 I think, I think a lot of rational people would 0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:04.460 be totally fine with that. 0:36:04.540 --> 0:36:04.719 Sure. 0:36:04.739 --> 0:36:08.620 The sticking point is like Alex would say, get rid 0:36:08.660 --> 0:36:10.140 of all your people first. 0:36:10.219 --> 0:36:10.399 Right. 0:36:11.130 --> 0:36:13.009 And then they would never follow through on getting rid 0:36:13.030 --> 0:36:14.370 of people on their side. 0:36:14.730 --> 0:36:17.210 No, it's gotta be, it's gotta be a red Rover situation. 0:36:17.430 --> 0:36:20.410 One, one for one simultaneous, one for one. Every time. 0:36:20.570 --> 0:36:20.890 Boom. 0:36:21.090 --> 0:36:23.640 We put them on our table like war. Oh, we 0:36:23.660 --> 0:36:25.879 got Nancy Pelosi. You drop another one down. 0:36:25.890 --> 0:36:26.460 They're gone. 0:36:26.540 --> 0:36:28.739 All right. Next one. I trust you to get one 0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:29.900 to one every time. 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.520 That might be the only negotiation strategy that works. 0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.779 I'm down for that. You, you and her. Sorry. You're 0:36:35.860 --> 0:36:36.259 out of here. 0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:41.710 Goodbye. Well, um, Hey, look, you've solved my problem that 0:36:41.750 --> 0:36:46.370 I had. So, yeah, it just sucks that the best 0:36:46.390 --> 0:36:48.590 he can do is like, yeah, he's in on the 0:36:48.610 --> 0:36:49.490 cover up now. 0:36:49.590 --> 0:36:49.990 Yeah. 0:36:50.170 --> 0:36:51.649 He has to be. 0:36:51.910 --> 0:36:53.910 Come on. What are you, stupid? 0:36:54.070 --> 0:36:56.190 Yeah, you got to do better than this. So anyway, 0:36:56.270 --> 0:36:59.230 Alex spends a long time complaining about Obamacare. 0:36:59.350 --> 0:37:01.469 Sure. 0:37:01.550 --> 0:37:01.770 Wow. 0:37:01.770 --> 0:37:04.689 2025, baby. Writing it in the wall. 0:37:04.770 --> 0:37:05.050 Yeah. 0:37:05.370 --> 0:37:10.820 Jonathan Gruber said you're stupid. Yeah. Oh, boy. Awesome. 0:37:10.910 --> 0:37:11.069 Yep. 0:37:11.390 --> 0:37:13.140 So anyway, we'll skip through a lot of that. Yes. 0:37:13.219 --> 0:37:16.460 The high point of it was him describing going to 0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:20.400 a clinic in Austin that has a pharmacy and seeing 0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.540 them charging a lady too much for a prescription and 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.060 being like, it's not us. 0:37:25.100 --> 0:37:26.080 It's Obama. 0:37:27.460 --> 0:37:29.640 It's Obama! And then she cried. 0:37:30.100 --> 0:37:30.800 Oh, no. 0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.060 Man, bring back death panels. Let's talk about that. 0:37:33.219 --> 0:37:36.460 Yeah. So anyway, Alex is really, really, really successful. 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:36.759 Sure. 0:37:36.900 --> 0:37:40.640 You make millions of people watching him all the time, 0:37:41.060 --> 0:37:42.670 and no one believes it. 0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:48.970 Fighting this is not a part-time job for anybody. People 0:37:48.989 --> 0:37:51.730 haven't really done it in about 10 years, but it 0:37:51.770 --> 0:37:54.570 used to happen all the time. I had dozens of 0:37:54.610 --> 0:37:59.220 employees reaching... even 10 years ago, 30, 40 million people 0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.900 a day conservatively. And family would come over to see me, 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:08.520 your neighbors, and they'd say, well, what's your main career? Like, 0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:16.009 what's your daytime job? And I'm sitting there, because, you know, 0:38:16.050 --> 0:38:19.330 my house, there's not pictures of me and newspaper clippings 0:38:19.370 --> 0:38:20.710 on the walls and all this kind of stuff, and 0:38:20.730 --> 0:38:22.250 your house is modest and everything, you don't make a 0:38:22.250 --> 0:38:24.649 big deal about it. I'm like, oh, I reach, I reach, 0:38:24.670 --> 0:38:29.259 you know, 30 million people a day And they're like, no, 0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:38.460 you don't. And the reason I raise that is people 0:38:38.500 --> 0:38:42.820 just have a normalcy bias. And they just don't believe 0:38:42.940 --> 0:38:45.860 when extraordinarily good things are happening, extraordinarily bad things are happening, 0:38:46.390 --> 0:38:51.890 especially if you don't put on airs. And by that, 0:38:51.910 --> 0:38:53.430 I mean, I'm not a person that puts on airs. 0:38:53.570 --> 0:38:56.730 Patriots don't put on airs. But we've been right. You've 0:38:56.750 --> 0:38:58.960 been right. So there has to be some way to 0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:02.089 signal to people like, hey, we're the good guys. Some 0:39:02.110 --> 0:39:03.250 sort of virtue. If you don't want to be in 0:39:03.270 --> 0:39:07.969 total enslavement now, you better join us and that we're 0:39:08.010 --> 0:39:12.120 the same people. I mean, where's the victory lap? 0:39:12.700 --> 0:39:16.469 I think it was January 6th. But also, you don't 0:39:16.530 --> 0:39:19.569 put on airs. Man, I have your watch. You put 0:39:19.650 --> 0:39:20.029 on airs. 0:39:20.110 --> 0:39:23.050 That whole studio isn't air. Yeah. 0:39:23.290 --> 0:39:25.950 Your life is putting on airs. Absurd. Now, I will say, 0:39:25.969 --> 0:39:29.509 I think that what these people are asking when they say, like, 0:39:29.590 --> 0:39:32.989 what's your real job? Right. The answer is supposed to 0:39:33.030 --> 0:39:34.010 be I'm a supplement salesperson. 0:39:34.070 --> 0:39:34.819 Right, right, right. 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:38.880 Because the show obviously wouldn't generate the kind of income 0:39:38.900 --> 0:39:41.219 that would get the giant house that he lives in. Right. 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:45.620 That is so modestly decorated. So, yeah, I think that's 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.930 the question that they're really trying to get at. But 0:39:48.110 --> 0:39:50.430 there's something so fun about like no one believes how 0:39:50.610 --> 0:39:52.370 popular I am because I'm so modest. 0:39:52.590 --> 0:39:57.460 I mean, yeah, that's that's like that is borderline. I'm 0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:59.940 the most humble person there's ever been. 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:01.380 Of all the greatest traits. 0:40:02.460 --> 0:40:04.480 I mean, I am the greatest humbler. 0:40:05.300 --> 0:40:08.509 I just humble myself like so much better than everybody else. 0:40:08.910 --> 0:40:10.330 Because I'm a better person. 0:40:10.450 --> 0:40:10.669 Right. 0:40:10.950 --> 0:40:14.850 And that's really great for Logan Paul's entrance in a 0:40:15.090 --> 0:40:17.750 WWE ring. Absolutely. Because you want to hate him. He's 0:40:17.770 --> 0:40:18.470 supposed to be hated. 0:40:18.650 --> 0:40:18.830 Right. 0:40:19.450 --> 0:40:22.759 For Alex, I don't think he's trying to play a heel. 0:40:22.860 --> 0:40:23.010 No. 0:40:23.300 --> 0:40:23.950 I don't think. 0:40:24.050 --> 0:40:26.960 It's just such a dick thing to say about anything. 0:40:27.020 --> 0:40:27.300 Yeah. 0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:27.710 Ugh. 0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.120 So a large portion of this, like I said, is 0:40:31.390 --> 0:40:35.370 complaining about Obamacare. Sure. And then another large chunk ends 0:40:35.510 --> 0:40:38.050 up him trying to start a fight with Theo Vaughn. 0:40:38.690 --> 0:40:39.010 Okay. 0:40:39.150 --> 0:40:42.450 Podcaster and former road ruler, Theo Vaughn. 0:40:42.469 --> 0:40:44.250 Theo Vaughn, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:40:44.770 --> 0:40:47.730 The bottom line of it is basically, like, people are 0:40:47.830 --> 0:40:52.090 too into Israel. They complain too much about Israel. Okay. 0:40:52.610 --> 0:40:54.690 And he's singled out Theo Vaughn. 0:40:54.750 --> 0:40:56.859 Theo Vaughn complains too much about Israel. 0:40:56.910 --> 0:40:57.590 Yeah. Okay. 0:40:58.739 --> 0:41:01.299 We should be doing a victory lap so people recognize 0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:05.290 we were the ones that were right. So that people 0:41:05.330 --> 0:41:08.009 will listen to us on the next important thing we're 0:41:08.030 --> 0:41:12.930 telling them. That's my issue with the Israel thing is, 0:41:13.770 --> 0:41:18.790 it's the avant-garde thing. It's all people talk about. They 0:41:18.830 --> 0:41:20.930 talk about the same set of things over and over 0:41:20.950 --> 0:41:24.009 again as if it does anything to Israel. They know 0:41:24.110 --> 0:41:28.040 nothing else about anything. And then it's like this golden 0:41:28.100 --> 0:41:30.120 ticket they have where they go, I'm better than you. 0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:35.819 You don't just talk about Israel. And I singled out 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:37.680 Theo Vaughn, who I like and who says nice things 0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:41.630 about me, just because you got to pick one example. 0:41:43.230 --> 0:41:46.690 I decided to shoot this last night because I literally 0:41:46.710 --> 0:41:49.310 saw a clip somebody posted in one of my videos, 0:41:49.370 --> 0:41:53.049 one of my reports, and it said, why don't you 0:41:53.410 --> 0:41:56.219 be a real man and expose Israel like Theo Vaughn? 0:41:59.270 --> 0:42:01.960 And I'm sitting there thinking, well, I mean, when, you know, 0:42:02.020 --> 0:42:06.819 Theo was five years old, I was making documentaries about 0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.540 Israel and staging false flag attacks. I've covered all of this. 0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:11.620 I don't have to prove myself. 0:42:12.070 --> 0:42:15.450 Were you pissed off by a tweet? And so you 0:42:15.469 --> 0:42:18.210 decided to try and big dog Theo Vaughn? 0:42:18.330 --> 0:42:21.490 Is there a reason for that? What did Theo Vaughn 0:42:21.530 --> 0:42:21.950 ever do? 0:42:22.090 --> 0:42:24.509 I think that Rogan doesn't want Alex on. 0:42:24.830 --> 0:42:25.069 Right. 0:42:25.410 --> 0:42:26.410 Theo Vaughn's huge. 0:42:26.489 --> 0:42:28.880 So we're doing a squeal like a pig kind of 0:42:28.910 --> 0:42:30.160 situation with Theo Vaughn. 0:42:30.180 --> 0:42:31.100 We're going to stick him. 0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:32.100 A million percent. 0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:34.180 And then Theo Vaughn is going to invite him onto 0:42:34.219 --> 0:42:34.660 the show. 0:42:35.020 --> 0:42:37.920 Alex made a video about why Theo Vaughn's afraid to 0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.480 have him on his show. So obviously it's a please 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:41.100 book me. 0:42:41.140 --> 0:42:42.259 Please get me on your show. 0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.259 It's so desperate that like. 0:42:44.969 --> 0:42:45.529 It's going to work. 0:42:45.710 --> 0:42:49.870 I hope it doesn't. I hope Theo has better instincts 0:42:49.890 --> 0:42:51.370 than that, but I don't trust it. 0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.540 Isn't his show some crazy level of huge? 0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:55.960 Didn't he have Obama on? He had Trump on. 0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.070 It had Bernie on too, though. I think he. 0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:02.489 He's just Theo Vaughn. 0:43:02.510 --> 0:43:04.989 He doesn't know anything. I have not watched enough of 0:43:05.070 --> 0:43:10.430 it to have a good instinct about where his views are. Sure. 0:43:11.290 --> 0:43:16.510 But he seems like maybe less really bad Rogan or something. 0:43:16.630 --> 0:43:17.250 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:43:17.270 --> 0:43:21.210 That's kind of how I would, from a distance, view it. Yeah. 0:43:21.390 --> 0:43:23.180 And I think that Alex views it that way too, 0:43:23.469 --> 0:43:24.940 and that's why he wants in. 0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:25.640 Right, right, right. 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:27.239 And Rogan doesn't want him back. Right. 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:29.550 I can't be on Rogan. Too corporate. 0:43:30.150 --> 0:43:32.850 Theo is dumb enough, and. 0:43:34.469 --> 0:43:35.189 That's all I need. 0:43:35.390 --> 0:43:35.629 Yeah. 0:43:35.830 --> 0:43:36.350 Done and done. 0:43:36.489 --> 0:43:39.610 Rogan has told me that I can go on Kill Tony. 0:43:40.010 --> 0:43:40.490 Maybe. 0:43:40.710 --> 0:43:41.190 Maybe. 0:43:42.110 --> 0:43:42.890 But that's about it. 0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.239 And I only get one minute, right? 0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:46.000 Yeah. 0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:46.779 That's no good. 0:43:47.260 --> 0:43:48.600 Oh. Eh. 0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:52.589 He's got a minute. I was thinking back to that 0:43:52.610 --> 0:43:53.330 Stan Hope set. 0:43:53.390 --> 0:43:55.230 I was going to say, did we hear him do 0:43:55.290 --> 0:43:55.690 a minute? 0:43:55.890 --> 0:43:56.850 No, he did more than a minute. 0:43:56.989 --> 0:43:58.209 Oh, he definitely did a minute. 0:43:58.230 --> 0:44:00.550 I think the minute worked fine because it's all momentum. 0:44:00.750 --> 0:44:02.630 Right. Well, he did run out of momentum. 0:44:02.650 --> 0:44:03.850 He can yell for a minute. 0:44:03.910 --> 0:44:04.750 Yeah. 0:44:04.810 --> 0:44:08.690 But yeah, give him 10. No good. So this rant 0:44:09.130 --> 0:44:11.930 trying to bait Theo Vaughn is very long. 0:44:12.050 --> 0:44:12.310 Yeah. 0:44:12.430 --> 0:44:15.509 He complains a lot about people who are critical of 0:44:15.570 --> 0:44:18.650 Israel and how it's all just them jacking off. 0:44:18.670 --> 0:44:18.770 Shit. 0:44:19.810 --> 0:44:23.350 But I'm sorry, folks, you're going to have to learn 0:44:23.570 --> 0:44:26.690 more than just, oh, look, that person prayed at the 0:44:26.890 --> 0:44:31.270 wailing wall and then just metaphysically play with yourself and 0:44:31.290 --> 0:44:33.190 talk about how you're good and they're bad all day long. 0:44:33.590 --> 0:44:36.410 And again, the Jews are in trouble. We finally got him. 0:44:36.650 --> 0:44:39.410 He's trying to get us off their trail. It's all 0:44:39.510 --> 0:44:46.310 you do. If you're going to expose badness in Israel, 0:44:46.390 --> 0:44:49.790 be informed, know the facts, go in, cover it, move 0:44:49.850 --> 0:44:52.980 on to the next thing. And then you diffuse the 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:56.239 Zionists manipulating the other Jews who all feel threatened now, 0:44:56.900 --> 0:44:58.360 who don't know what's going on in the general public, 0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.219 who are sending record money to their very abusers that 0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:04.830 know they're stirring up the beehive so they can have 0:45:04.870 --> 0:45:12.120 this Armageddon, Megiddo crisis forever. And so the Israel lobby 0:45:12.140 --> 0:45:14.300 can fully take over the US because they got a 0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:17.110 plan to false flag synagogues and stuff and come in 0:45:17.130 --> 0:45:23.290 with massive censorship. See, I'm not just talking about what 0:45:23.330 --> 0:45:26.360 happened in the past. I'm talking about what's about to happen. 0:45:26.410 --> 0:45:26.640 See? 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:30.940 See? So I apologize to a lot of people out 0:45:30.980 --> 0:45:32.759 there that have woken up the fact that they're being 0:45:32.780 --> 0:45:36.500 lied to, but who don't have any grasp or depth 0:45:36.620 --> 0:45:39.660 and who have low IQs. And I don't know how 0:45:40.140 --> 0:45:41.640 I respond to you. I could talk to you like 0:45:41.660 --> 0:45:42.160 you're five. 0:45:42.980 --> 0:45:43.240 Please. 0:45:43.380 --> 0:45:46.860 And maybe I shouldn't waste my time on you. It 0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:52.190 just doesn't matter. But I'll tell you this. If we 0:45:52.210 --> 0:45:54.930 don't turn around the totalitarianism in all its flavors and forms, 0:46:00.290 --> 0:46:02.029 we are going to have a complete global depression. We 0:46:02.050 --> 0:46:03.959 are going to have total war. We're all completely screwed. 0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:07.020 And I'm literally just trying to save the ship here. 0:46:11.180 --> 0:46:13.060 And then I got to watch all these one trick ponies, 0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.520 like a string. You pull on those dolls and say 0:46:16.540 --> 0:46:19.180 like three things and you pull it. It just says 0:46:19.219 --> 0:46:21.779 the same three things, just pull string, pull string, pull string. 0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:28.500 And I'm just like, this is retarded. This is absolutely idiotic. God, 0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:29.920 I'm supposed to get the Epstein thing. I'm going to 0:46:29.940 --> 0:46:30.820 get to that too. 0:46:31.020 --> 0:46:33.360 Yeah, I'm sure you will. So yeah, I mean, it's 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:37.020 all just a bait Theo. This is just trying to 0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:42.379 sneaky snake him. And like, all of these criticisms and 0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:45.839 like saying that these people are just masturbating, uh, with 0:46:45.940 --> 0:46:47.920 a string, uh, pull the string. And it says the 0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:51.180 same thing. Like you hang out with Nick. What are 0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:54.890 you talking about? Why is Theo Vaughn worse than Nick? 0:46:55.050 --> 0:46:55.930 I can't imagine. 0:46:55.989 --> 0:47:01.129 So blaming Israel for everything. Um, it's weird, but Nick 0:47:01.170 --> 0:47:03.090 gives Alex the time of day. And Theo has an 0:47:03.150 --> 0:47:05.310 audience that Alex hasn't penetrated yet. 0:47:05.430 --> 0:47:06.300 There's definitely that. 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:10.980 I do like the, the middle of a, uh, I'm 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:14.549 good and you're bad, Rhett, to have something about how 0:47:14.630 --> 0:47:16.390 they only sit around and. 0:47:16.350 --> 0:47:18.410 Talk about how good they are and how bad you are. 0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:19.379 That's nice. 0:47:19.950 --> 0:47:24.580 Then to say that it's masturbation while you're doing it, 0:47:24.910 --> 0:47:27.290 that's nice. But then I thought about it, and I 0:47:27.310 --> 0:47:30.730 was like, he is getting paid professionally to do this. 0:47:31.340 --> 0:47:33.240 So there is a bit of a difference between somebody 0:47:33.260 --> 0:47:36.819 who's just masturbating and somebody who's masturbating on camera, right? 0:47:37.020 --> 0:47:37.280 Right. 0:47:37.620 --> 0:47:37.819 Right? 0:47:37.860 --> 0:47:40.640 So that's like they're professional masturbators. 0:47:40.940 --> 0:47:42.410 Yeah, but I also think that he. 0:47:43.950 --> 0:47:45.469 Okay, here's where it gets tough. 0:47:45.489 --> 0:47:45.689 Okay. 0:47:46.170 --> 0:47:47.109 Where does it get tough? 0:47:47.410 --> 0:47:49.770 You're going to have to have a person masturbating on 0:47:49.810 --> 0:47:52.150 camera and people buying supplements. 0:47:52.700 --> 0:47:53.239 Yeah. 0:47:53.260 --> 0:47:57.580 Because people I don't really think are there for Alex's masturbation. 0:47:57.760 --> 0:47:58.060 Yeah. 0:47:58.260 --> 0:48:00.400 Like, no one's paying for that on its own. 0:48:00.460 --> 0:48:00.919 That's fair. 0:48:00.980 --> 0:48:01.480 That's fair. 0:48:01.500 --> 0:48:05.280 Yeah. Who is sponsoring masturbation these days? 0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:10.990 Black Rifle Coffee. Whatever beef Tucker is selling. 0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:14.230 I'll say this. I'm not selling hide your guns on 0:48:14.250 --> 0:48:14.990 that one. 0:48:15.989 --> 0:48:19.530 So Alex does not get to covering the Epstein stuff. 0:48:19.610 --> 0:48:20.050 Naturally. 0:48:20.410 --> 0:48:24.290 Just yet. Because there's other news. Yeah. Other than Obamacare. 0:48:24.489 --> 0:48:24.689 Right. 0:48:24.830 --> 0:48:28.529 Which is that Trump is fucked in the polls. His 0:48:28.610 --> 0:48:29.550 numbers are dropping. 0:48:29.590 --> 0:48:31.379 What a surprise. All right. 0:48:31.530 --> 0:48:39.879 I remember in September of 2020, talking to Roger Stone 0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:43.450 on the phone. and he's a very smart political analyst 0:48:43.489 --> 0:48:47.430 and Trump's former top political advisor. He said, Trump's going 0:48:47.450 --> 0:48:51.299 to lose. He said, there's enough fraud baked in. He's 0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:53.460 got to win by 10 points. He's not going to 0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:54.710 have as big a landslide as he had in 2016. 0:48:54.700 --> 0:48:57.400 He goes, he's going to lose, but don't, don't, you know, 0:48:57.420 --> 0:48:59.219 don't say that. I've since had Roger on and, you know, 0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:01.140 after the fact, I wasn't out of confidence. I got 0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:04.759 his permission to tell the story. This time he said, no, 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:06.200 he's going to win. It's going to look like a 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:09.560 small landslide. I'll win the popular and the electoral, but, 0:49:10.530 --> 0:49:16.830 and the, But he said, don't tell people that because 0:49:16.850 --> 0:49:18.070 we still got to have maximum push. We got to 0:49:18.090 --> 0:49:25.910 have urgency. Now, when we came out and talked about that, 0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:28.520 and I told folks, good chance Trump's going to lose. 0:49:28.540 --> 0:49:31.180 I didn't say my sources. People need to take it serious. 0:49:31.340 --> 0:49:33.620 All the white pill Q people are like, no, he's invincible. 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.800 Hillary's been executed. They're all at Guantanamo Bay. Just total 0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:41.020 cuckoo town stuff. Now, that's one extreme of that, of 0:49:41.060 --> 0:49:44.030 the white pills. There's other people that just say, oh, 0:49:45.050 --> 0:49:48.950 you're criticizing Trump when you say that's not a good policy. 0:49:49.969 --> 0:49:52.990 We think this advisor is bad. That's a terrible idea. 0:49:54.350 --> 0:49:57.469 We're not in North Korea here. We're not the Democrats, too. 0:49:57.489 --> 0:50:01.170 We don't just slavishly follow whatever comes out of the RNC. 0:50:02.969 --> 0:50:04.330 And so when I get up here and tell you 0:50:04.370 --> 0:50:06.850 that I don't need to be Mark Mitchell, who is 0:50:07.550 --> 0:50:09.569 hands down, I talk to everybody, the numbers are clear, 0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:13.339 one of the, if not the best pollsters in the 0:50:13.380 --> 0:50:18.839 world at raspiesreports.com. And he'll tell you, because I've been 0:50:18.860 --> 0:50:21.049 watching him, you know, when he does other interviews and 0:50:21.070 --> 0:50:23.390 when he came out with Brianna Morello a few days ago, 0:50:23.810 --> 0:50:27.739 that Trump is in deep shit. And and people go, oh, 0:50:27.780 --> 0:50:28.900 you're you're undermining him. 0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:29.620 No, no, no, no, no. 0:50:29.739 --> 0:50:33.260 We're we're saying that because that's what the numbers show. 0:50:33.820 --> 0:50:35.480 And that's what we see on the street. So he 0:50:35.540 --> 0:50:39.450 course corrects very, very quickly because people are fickle. Just 0:50:39.469 --> 0:50:43.230 three months ago, Trump was riding high. But now, because 0:50:43.290 --> 0:50:46.250 a lot of things that are happening. And the horrible 0:50:46.270 --> 0:50:49.730 economy he inherited, he was trying to fix it. We 0:50:49.770 --> 0:50:50.630 got big problems. 0:50:51.230 --> 0:50:54.890 A lot of things are happening like that. Trump just sucks. 0:50:55.250 --> 0:50:55.390 Yeah. 0:50:56.680 --> 0:51:01.550 You guys got a pile of shit. And it's yours. 0:51:01.750 --> 0:51:03.290 That's why the numbers are dropping. 0:51:03.610 --> 0:51:06.330 It's so weird, right? 0:51:06.820 --> 0:51:11.600 Like the very beginning of something is Roger Stone being like, 0:51:12.060 --> 0:51:14.680 this is how it's going to happen. Don't tell people 0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:18.970 the truth. Lie to them so we can manipulate the outcome. 0:51:19.810 --> 0:51:24.710 Also, it got really stuck in my head that he's like, 0:51:24.830 --> 0:51:27.250 I remember in September Stone was on the phone. 0:51:27.310 --> 0:51:27.630 Yes! 0:51:27.870 --> 0:51:28.910 It's like he's saying a poem. 0:51:29.070 --> 0:51:34.910 Yep. The fifth day of September, Stone rang my phone. 0:51:35.270 --> 0:51:36.810 It's very distracting. 0:51:36.890 --> 0:51:37.650 Yeah. 0:51:37.710 --> 0:51:39.839 But yeah, yeah. I mean, hey, look, you know, you 0:51:39.860 --> 0:51:40.840 got to misdirect. 0:51:40.969 --> 0:51:42.100 Hey, you got to do what you got to do. 0:51:42.219 --> 0:51:44.700 Yeah, it's for the best. I think that. 0:51:46.350 --> 0:51:52.049 What Alex fails to realize is that he is not 0:51:52.110 --> 0:51:56.590 wagging the dog. He thinks that he can be like, well, 0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:58.960 I'm going to throw a fit. Trump, Trump, you're fucked 0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.360 in the polls. And that's going to get Trump to 0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:03.620 act in the way that he wants him to, as 0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:07.180 opposed to like. No, he's doing what he's going to do. 0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.120 And you're going to not like that. The polls are 0:52:09.140 --> 0:52:10.419 going to drop and he's not going to he doesn't 0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:10.879 really care. 0:52:10.980 --> 0:52:11.280 Yeah. 0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:11.820 Yeah. 0:52:11.940 --> 0:52:15.799 He's it's it is very strange to have that be 0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:18.320 like a thing that he does is like. 0:52:18.180 --> 0:52:21.379 If he's talking to you, it's to make you do 0:52:21.420 --> 0:52:22.300 a thing that he wants. 0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:22.939 Right. 0:52:23.100 --> 0:52:24.980 Like that's the only time he'll ever say your name 0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:29.029 out loud. whether it's for a positive or a negative or, 0:52:29.210 --> 0:52:33.089 or like buttering you up or intimidating you, no matter what, 0:52:33.210 --> 0:52:36.670 if he is in engaging with you, it is to obtain. 0:52:36.910 --> 0:52:39.950 Yeah. And Alex has run out of things to be 0:52:40.030 --> 0:52:41.049 obtainable from him. 0:52:41.090 --> 0:52:41.270 Yeah. 0:52:41.590 --> 0:52:45.129 Like there is like whatever poll numbers are dropping, like 0:52:45.390 --> 0:52:48.890 it's not going to be affected by Alex being like, Hey, 0:52:48.930 --> 0:52:51.200 Trump's good. He's cool. You're not going to get any 0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:52.540 bump in the numbers from that. 0:52:52.739 --> 0:52:52.899 Nope. 0:52:54.710 --> 0:52:57.360 So you would have to listen to Alex for one 0:52:57.440 --> 0:53:02.180 reason and one reason only. You believe that Alex is 0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:04.580 going to lead you to popularity once more. 0:53:05.700 --> 0:53:08.660 So Alex, because he's talking about the polls, he's got 0:53:08.700 --> 0:53:13.810 a Rasmussen guy on there. And so this guy, he's 0:53:13.850 --> 0:53:16.750 got some criticisms of Trump, like the fact that he 0:53:16.830 --> 0:53:20.110 pretends to be a populist but is surrounded by billionaires. Weird. 0:53:21.060 --> 0:53:24.430 So again, where's the understanding that this needs to be 0:53:24.489 --> 0:53:27.270 economic populism? He ran as a populist and he's surrounded 0:53:27.310 --> 0:53:31.069 by billionaires. Bill Pulte might be the nicest guy on earth, 0:53:31.390 --> 0:53:34.719 but when your solution to the housing crisis is to 0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:37.739 make prices higher, which is what happens when you juice 0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:40.420 demand without affecting supply, that's what that 50-year. 0:53:40.140 --> 0:53:41.700 Mortgage will do. It will make. 0:53:42.380 --> 0:53:46.220 the baby boomer generation more wealthy because their houses prices 0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:48.880 will go up. It will make home builders more wealthy 0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.259 because they can sell higher priced houses and it will 0:53:51.280 --> 0:53:53.910 make bankers more wealthy because they can siphon off more 0:53:53.989 --> 0:53:57.270 interest out of young people. And what's really sick is 0:53:57.310 --> 0:53:59.270 that we have a bubble right now. And so for 0:53:59.350 --> 0:54:05.160 Trump to expand borrowing by expanding credit and relaxing the 0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:08.980 credit requirements is, What they're essentially doing is helping struggling 0:54:09.020 --> 0:54:11.779 people get into the market so that boomers who have 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:12.900 made a lot of money can. 0:54:12.780 --> 0:54:15.160 Get out of the market at the top. That's even 0:54:15.219 --> 0:54:15.800 more perverse. 0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:18.899 And so that's what their solution was when the real 0:54:18.940 --> 0:54:21.480 solution should be to crash the market. And yes, that 0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:24.180 would be bad for the economy, but everybody was talking 0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:27.860 about a controlled detonation of the economy. Remember back in January, 0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:30.839 I think it was. We're like, okay, we're in. How 0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:31.940 are we bringing this thing down? 0:54:32.100 --> 0:54:32.600 And you know what? 0:54:32.700 --> 0:54:34.980 That would have been the best thing for people under 50. 0:54:34.980 --> 0:54:37.560 They could have gotten rid of all the H-1Bs and 0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:41.060 all the visas and then crashed the housing market. That 0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:43.680 would have given every Zoomer a job, a good job, 0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:45.360 like an Apple development job. 0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:46.799 Is that how that works? 0:54:46.820 --> 0:54:47.540 Like a fever. 0:54:47.820 --> 0:54:49.040 I don't know if that's how that works. 0:54:49.060 --> 0:54:50.529 Push all the foreigners out, all the illegals. 0:54:51.950 --> 0:54:52.120 Yeah. 0:54:52.340 --> 0:54:53.930 Yeah, it would push the foreigners out. 0:54:54.530 --> 0:54:57.530 These are some of the dumbest things I've heard a 0:54:57.690 --> 0:54:58.310 person say. 0:54:58.790 --> 0:54:59.830 Sure. That's amazing. 0:54:59.989 --> 0:55:04.920 I'm not positive about controlled demolitions of economies. 0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:05.219 Sure. 0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:08.380 But I am positive about if you ever thought that 0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:10.420 Trump was going to do that, you're insane. 0:55:10.540 --> 0:55:12.500 You would be ridiculously insane. 0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:16.930 So yeah, I think that this guy, I don't like him. 0:55:17.110 --> 0:55:19.490 I think he sucks. But he has a fair point 0:55:19.670 --> 0:55:23.470 in as much as like, Trump is obviously not the person, 0:55:23.989 --> 0:55:27.050 the populace that he was pretending to be. All of 0:55:27.070 --> 0:55:30.469 these actions are going to transfer more wealth to the 0:55:30.530 --> 0:55:33.230 people who already have wealth. At the expense of the 0:55:33.270 --> 0:55:33.850 people who don't. 0:55:33.989 --> 0:55:38.340 Yeah, I don't think there is any way to move 0:55:38.430 --> 0:55:42.779 forward with any of these people on anything until this 0:55:42.860 --> 0:55:47.940 conversation begins with, oh, Trump has been lying the entire time. 0:55:48.140 --> 0:55:48.359 Yeah. 0:55:48.940 --> 0:55:51.819 He did not start lying. He is not beginning to 0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:54.319 do anything. He lied to us from the jump. 0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:54.779 Yeah. 0:55:54.860 --> 0:55:55.660 We have been wrong. 0:55:56.100 --> 0:55:58.040 Well, you have. Sure. 0:55:58.810 --> 0:55:59.649 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:55:59.989 --> 0:56:01.970 The people who have been like, this guy sucks, they've 0:56:02.010 --> 0:56:02.710 been kind of right. 0:56:02.730 --> 0:56:04.890 No, no, no, we nailed it. We nailed it right 0:56:04.950 --> 0:56:05.230 on the head. 0:56:05.250 --> 0:56:06.750 But there's no need for an I told you so. 0:56:07.690 --> 0:56:09.070 No, period. 0:56:09.110 --> 0:56:12.040 Just moving forward, we have to acknowledge that he was 0:56:12.100 --> 0:56:14.900 a liar then. And that now that you know he 0:56:14.940 --> 0:56:17.180 was a liar then, in the future you can see 0:56:17.260 --> 0:56:19.540 other liars doing the same thing that he was doing. 0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:21.980 Right, and we also need, in order to move forward, 0:56:22.020 --> 0:56:24.870 for Alex to... admit that he knew that Trump was 0:56:24.890 --> 0:56:28.189 a liar. Absolutely. From at least 2016 on. They all did. 0:56:28.530 --> 0:56:30.719 They all did. They all knew. 0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:31.140 Yeah. 0:56:32.020 --> 0:56:35.580 So another thing that this poll guy, this Mark fella. 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:36.000 Yeah. 0:56:36.180 --> 0:56:38.640 Well, another thing that he brings up is that there 0:56:38.940 --> 0:56:45.210 is a large divide between demographics and age cohorts. Sure. 0:56:45.330 --> 0:56:46.930 In terms of support for Israel. 0:56:47.050 --> 0:56:47.190 Yeah. 0:56:47.469 --> 0:56:50.870 The older people have a tendency to support Israel. 0:56:50.890 --> 0:56:50.969 Sure. 0:56:52.030 --> 0:56:55.690 And that is fair enough, I guess, from numbers. But 0:56:55.730 --> 0:56:59.109 the leap that they make from it is that like 0:56:59.510 --> 0:57:01.629 young people are just being rebellious. 0:57:01.650 --> 0:57:02.489 That sounds right. 0:57:02.710 --> 0:57:05.489 There's a crisis and people reorder society around a new 0:57:05.510 --> 0:57:09.800 value set. So I think Israel is a very deeply 0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:11.560 ingrained boomer value. 0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:15.540 They saw the nation be formed. They supported it all 0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:16.180 through the years. 0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:19.820 And it's become a religious sacrament. And so the young 0:57:19.860 --> 0:57:23.050 people see that as a rebellion point. And do you 0:57:23.070 --> 0:57:25.850 think Netanyahu understands? Do you think Israel, I mean, the 0:57:25.870 --> 0:57:28.250 Gallup poll about some popular country in the world, do 0:57:28.270 --> 0:57:30.410 they understand how screwed they are? Because everything they do, 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:34.210 we'll get Tucker Carlson, we'll destroy him, ha, ha, ha, 0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:36.160 we'll kill him like a fox in a hen house. 0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:39.960 I mean, that is the perfect thing to just supercharge 0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:42.960 hatred against Israel. I'm watching Israel literally destroy itself, and 0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:46.630 Napoleon said, never interrupt your enemy when they're destroying themselves 0:57:46.690 --> 0:57:48.910 or making a mistake. Well, I'm not their enemy. I mean, 0:57:48.950 --> 0:57:50.390 it's insane. Yeah. 0:57:51.590 --> 0:57:52.150 So now what? 0:57:52.210 --> 0:57:52.980 That's literally it. 0:57:53.030 --> 0:57:54.700 And they're not going to be able to correct this 0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:57.520 problem because it's generational. And, again, this isn't because the 0:57:57.540 --> 0:58:00.280 young people hate Israel. It's just because the young people 0:58:00.360 --> 0:58:03.480 realize that this is a very strongly held boomer value 0:58:03.500 --> 0:58:06.440 that they can rebel against. They're literally just rebelling against 0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:09.870 the olds. And the Nick Fuentes stuff is the perfect example. 0:58:10.370 --> 0:58:12.450 He took a group of people. He didn't make all 0:58:12.470 --> 0:58:16.490 the groipers. There have been strongly conservative, disaffected men on. 0:58:16.450 --> 0:58:17.830 The right for a long time. 0:58:18.210 --> 0:58:19.530 They say edgy things. 0:58:19.790 --> 0:58:21.700 And these were the people that got Trump in the 0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:22.180 White House. 0:58:22.220 --> 0:58:25.720 And nobody even realizes that the people of 4chan, you know, 0:58:25.920 --> 0:58:28.320 became the people on Reddit that became the people pushing 0:58:28.340 --> 0:58:29.020 all the Trump memes. 0:58:29.340 --> 0:58:30.620 It's the same group of people. 0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:33.900 And Nick Fuentes, after, you know, Rumble and Twitter became 0:58:33.940 --> 0:58:36.490 more free, Nick Fuentes realized, well, I can like step 0:58:36.650 --> 0:58:39.310 in and be edgy and get attention. And so what 0:58:39.330 --> 0:58:41.470 did he do? He gave boomers a middle finger by 0:58:41.610 --> 0:58:42.990 acting anti-Semitic. 0:58:43.450 --> 0:58:44.470 Or he's anti-Semitic. 0:58:46.150 --> 0:58:46.410 Right. 0:58:46.550 --> 0:58:50.590 Yeah. Like this is this is this is the fundamental thing. 0:58:51.390 --> 0:58:55.200 They don't understand the idea of somebody just doing a thing. 0:58:55.300 --> 0:58:59.120 Well, they actually, I think, are motivated not to understand. 0:58:59.180 --> 0:58:59.660 Exactly. 0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:01.720 Because if they did, it would indict their behavior. 0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:02.000 Right. 0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:04.970 They would realize that they themselves are the same thing 0:59:04.990 --> 0:59:06.430 that they're complaining about. 0:59:06.490 --> 0:59:06.750 Yeah. 0:59:06.890 --> 0:59:11.510 And at very, very least enablers. of that. Yeah. 0:59:11.650 --> 0:59:14.390 If not outright supporters of hoping that it happens more. 0:59:14.510 --> 0:59:14.740 Yeah. 0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:15.030 Yeah. 0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:15.500 Yeah. 0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:19.240 And I think that that's that's like a really sad 0:59:19.300 --> 0:59:22.890 thing to see. Like, oh, yeah, all of this bigotry 0:59:22.970 --> 0:59:26.150 and shit is just youthful rebellion. I'm sure there's an 0:59:26.270 --> 0:59:30.330 element of it that's that. Sure. Like some percentage of 0:59:30.410 --> 0:59:35.270 people are lashing out in a rebellion against the olds. 0:59:35.510 --> 0:59:35.850 I guess. 0:59:35.950 --> 0:59:40.550 Or whatever. But pretending that there isn't. some philosophical or 0:59:41.110 --> 0:59:45.770 actual problem beliefs that, that are involved here and are 0:59:45.810 --> 0:59:50.210 motivating people like Nick is pathetic. It's, it's not looking at, 0:59:50.750 --> 0:59:51.700 you know, what you're a part of. 0:59:52.250 --> 0:59:54.870 I mean, it's just, it's, and it's just one of 0:59:54.890 --> 0:59:56.570 those fundamental, like. 0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:02.000 I, From their worldview, from their point of view, I 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:07.130 can never look at another person as having equal status, right? 1:00:07.170 --> 1:00:10.470 So this person is incapable of thinking as good as 1:00:10.570 --> 1:00:12.670 I am. So what I'm doing is I'm giving them 1:00:12.710 --> 1:00:15.770 a pre-made excuse for why they're so much dumber than me. 1:00:16.170 --> 1:00:18.940 And otherwise, they would think clearly and agree with me, right? 1:00:19.380 --> 1:00:20.200 So because. 1:00:20.860 --> 1:00:22.560 The youth are rebellious. 1:00:23.020 --> 1:00:25.080 They're not thinking as smart as I am. 1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:25.720 Right. 1:00:25.840 --> 1:00:28.480 And every possible circumstance, this is where we're going. 1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:33.270 It's not that they're capable of thinking clearly if they were, 1:00:33.790 --> 1:00:35.610 they wouldn't be anti-Semitic. 1:00:35.790 --> 1:00:36.550 Right. Right. 1:00:36.810 --> 1:00:37.390 Exactly. 1:00:37.790 --> 1:00:39.650 And this is the problem with an interview with a 1:00:39.670 --> 1:00:43.570 pollster like this is that like, He can have numbers 1:00:43.790 --> 1:00:48.300 that say that the older generations are more supportive of Israel. 1:00:48.360 --> 1:00:48.540 Right. 1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:52.280 But he doesn't have any numbers that support this interpretation 1:00:52.700 --> 1:00:53.840 that he's coming up with. 1:00:53.940 --> 1:00:54.100 No. 1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:59.990 This is opinion being presented through the voice of a statistician. 1:01:00.070 --> 1:01:00.770 Yeah, absolutely. 1:01:00.890 --> 1:01:03.430 And I just think it's opinion. It should be treated 1:01:03.490 --> 1:01:04.610 like that. And it's true. 1:01:05.590 --> 1:01:10.210 I mean, it's reading entrails. It's the same concept as 1:01:10.470 --> 1:01:13.800 cutting open a lizard and being like, see, now we 1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:14.940 know where the future is going to go. 1:01:15.340 --> 1:01:18.900 Except for when you stick on the topic of numbers, 1:01:19.160 --> 1:01:20.680 then you're kind of fine. 1:01:21.060 --> 1:01:21.240 Sure. 1:01:21.620 --> 1:01:25.440 Numbers are useful and you can misuse them and whatever. 1:01:25.460 --> 1:01:26.180 Sure, sure, sure. 1:01:26.500 --> 1:01:28.890 Trump's numbers are going down and Alex can feel it 1:01:28.930 --> 1:01:31.650 in the streets. And that's something you can't avoid when 1:01:31.670 --> 1:01:34.790 you're talking to a poll guy. And so Alex is like, 1:01:34.890 --> 1:01:36.430 fuck it. I'm going to have to go. Let's do it. 1:01:36.430 --> 1:01:37.730 I'm going to have to go yell at the White House. 1:01:37.770 --> 1:01:38.390 All right. 1:01:38.910 --> 1:01:41.890 Trump's doing so much good on policies, on the economy 1:01:41.910 --> 1:01:46.170 and so many things. But they have absolutely ignored Epstein 1:01:46.790 --> 1:01:50.990 that now has come roaring back. And their handling of that. 1:01:51.880 --> 1:01:56.410 And then now they're handling of Israel. And, you know, 1:01:56.610 --> 1:01:58.310 the things Trump said and did, which I'm not going 1:01:58.330 --> 1:01:59.720 to belabor because I'll go back to our guests, but 1:02:00.360 --> 1:02:02.320 you're not my supporters if you want to know about Epstein. 1:02:03.180 --> 1:02:06.420 You know, stuff like that. And I get it, he's 79, 1:02:06.420 --> 1:02:08.740 and we need Trump. I mean, listen, I'm not somebody 1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:11.320 that just bashes Trump because, oh, it'll be a big clip. 1:02:11.700 --> 1:02:14.200 Everything I say is because I absolutely believe it. I 1:02:14.220 --> 1:02:17.300 get criticized for not attacking Trump on every issue because 1:02:17.320 --> 1:02:20.510 I'm trying to balance this of, you know, compared to 1:02:20.550 --> 1:02:22.750 Kamala Harris, it's night and day. But now that he's 1:02:22.790 --> 1:02:25.850 starting to sink quickly, I mean, I'm going to have 1:02:25.870 --> 1:02:28.390 to really take it to him. And I was invited 1:02:28.410 --> 1:02:31.330 to Mar-a-Lago six months ago, the White House. I'm supposed 1:02:31.350 --> 1:02:33.230 to be at, what is tonight? I'm supposed to be 1:02:33.250 --> 1:02:36.910 at Mar-a-Lago tomorrow. with some people, and I wasn't even 1:02:36.930 --> 1:02:38.180 going to go. I guess I got to go. 1:02:38.200 --> 1:02:40.050 I wasn't even going to go to the White House. 1:02:40.070 --> 1:02:41.830 I guess I don't. And I'll probably just scream at him. 1:02:42.110 --> 1:02:43.250 And that's why a lot of times he doesn't really 1:02:43.290 --> 1:02:44.730 call me anymore. Because over the years, I'll say, listen, 1:02:44.750 --> 1:02:46.330 you got traitors. Here's their names. Damn it, I don't 1:02:46.390 --> 1:02:48.190 want to hear how great I am. Because, you know, 1:02:48.230 --> 1:02:50.470 you get the five-minute call. It's exactly five minutes, and 1:02:50.490 --> 1:02:51.880 he's going to pat you on the head and do 1:02:51.940 --> 1:02:54.840 this thing. And I'm just like, listen, I got kids. 1:02:55.280 --> 1:02:56.740 I would stop calling, too, if I were. 1:02:57.000 --> 1:02:57.240 Yeah. 1:02:57.540 --> 1:02:58.880 That sounds like a bad phone call. 1:02:58.960 --> 1:03:00.920 Yeah, that does not sound enjoyable whatsoever. 1:03:00.940 --> 1:03:04.760 I am trying to just handle you and give you 1:03:04.800 --> 1:03:07.080 a little bit of like, oh, good boy. 1:03:07.100 --> 1:03:07.520 Yep. 1:03:07.540 --> 1:03:09.260 Pat you on the head. You're screaming at me about 1:03:09.280 --> 1:03:10.050 how you got kids. 1:03:10.390 --> 1:03:10.470 Yep. 1:03:11.620 --> 1:03:13.280 How there's traitors in the midst. 1:03:13.400 --> 1:03:16.640 You are a hungry dog. I leave you outside and 1:03:16.680 --> 1:03:18.870 I give you food from time to time. Do not 1:03:18.910 --> 1:03:19.770 try and come in the house. 1:03:20.070 --> 1:03:24.710 Yeah. Don't piss over here. Nope. I don't know. Alex 1:03:24.730 --> 1:03:26.050 is going to go scream at Trump. This is going 1:03:26.070 --> 1:03:26.350 to work. 1:03:26.570 --> 1:03:29.410 Yeah, I think so. I think it's about time. 1:03:29.190 --> 1:03:32.030 They've had it. Well, I think that the reason that 1:03:32.050 --> 1:03:34.950 Trump isn't behaving the way Alex wants is because Alex 1:03:34.970 --> 1:03:35.770 hasn't yelled at him. 1:03:36.550 --> 1:03:39.370 Yeah, I mean, you know, this is really going to 1:03:39.410 --> 1:03:42.030 bring back the eightfold path, I think. You know, that 1:03:42.110 --> 1:03:46.040 idea of right speech leads to right action. Alex, just 1:03:46.120 --> 1:03:48.880 even in the way, like, the administration is ignoring it. 1:03:49.220 --> 1:03:51.240 They're not ignoring it, buddy. 1:03:51.820 --> 1:03:56.100 Buddy. Come on. If you speak right, you're going to 1:03:56.160 --> 1:03:56.660 do right. 1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:59.680 They're not ignoring it, even by your own admission, where 1:03:59.720 --> 1:04:02.709 Trump said everyone who is a real follower of mine 1:04:03.010 --> 1:04:03.890 doesn't care about this. 1:04:03.910 --> 1:04:03.990 Yep. 1:04:04.630 --> 1:04:05.990 That's not ignoring. 1:04:06.170 --> 1:04:10.140 You called it a minor cover up at best. 1:04:10.200 --> 1:04:10.460 Yeah. 1:04:10.520 --> 1:04:15.280 Yeah. So, uh, Mark, uh, the pollster fella, uh, he, uh, 1:04:15.960 --> 1:04:18.620 He's bringing up Nick Fuentes a bit about how he's 1:04:18.660 --> 1:04:22.260 just being rebellious. Of course. The anti-Semitism is just youthful. 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:26.360 And people should watch Zoomers. 1:04:26.620 --> 1:04:28.830 Go to YouTube. Go to the streamers. I watch a 1:04:28.850 --> 1:04:30.870 few of them. I think Asmund Gold is really good. 1:04:31.270 --> 1:04:35.250 They have no political loyalty whatsoever, and they're also not conservative. 1:04:35.350 --> 1:04:37.450 We talked a lot about that polling on your show. 1:04:38.370 --> 1:04:41.090 Even the ones that voted for Trump are very socialistic. 1:04:41.110 --> 1:04:44.470 They want to nationalize industries. They want excess wealth confiscation. 1:04:45.050 --> 1:04:46.760 Look at Fuentes. 1:04:47.320 --> 1:04:53.040 Loves Hitler, loves Stalin, loves strongmen because that's what the youth, 1:04:53.780 --> 1:04:57.240 and this repeats the 20s, By the way, kids, when 1:04:57.280 --> 1:04:59.700 we go through these patterns, you get these strongmen, you 1:04:59.720 --> 1:05:02.260 get giant wars and total death and destruction. So that's 1:05:02.300 --> 1:05:05.419 why older people, I don't mean the boomers, not all 1:05:05.440 --> 1:05:06.380 of them are social security. 1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:06.980 What are we doing? 1:05:07.120 --> 1:05:09.080 Watch their football games. But I mean real technicians like 1:05:09.100 --> 1:05:11.340 Mark Mitchell that's run major companies, people that have been 1:05:11.360 --> 1:05:15.050 around like myself, we've studied history. This doesn't go well. 1:05:15.810 --> 1:05:20.790 And so this fascination with black uniforms and marching armies. 1:05:21.250 --> 1:05:21.710 It's not fun. 1:05:23.910 --> 1:05:26.220 Yeah, you know, and I think you got to look 1:05:26.260 --> 1:05:29.820 at nuance, like what specifically his real platform is. 1:05:29.860 --> 1:05:31.360 I don't watch him, but he had a clip. 1:05:31.860 --> 1:05:33.600 And it's like a lot of that is just shock 1:05:33.640 --> 1:05:36.640 value to rebel against the Zoomers. But what these people 1:05:36.720 --> 1:05:40.510 are asking for is a return to justice. They're asking 1:05:40.590 --> 1:05:44.250 for like some type of equivalent, some blowback to the 1:05:44.290 --> 1:05:47.290 complete lack of justice and the two-tier justice. They're looking 1:05:47.330 --> 1:05:52.080 for economic opportunity. And they're looking, quite frankly, for identitarianism. 1:05:52.160 --> 1:05:54.200 And that's something that a lot of people haven't talked about. 1:05:54.220 --> 1:05:55.180 And it was kind of interesting. 1:05:55.200 --> 1:05:56.620 Yeah, young people have lost their identity. 1:05:56.660 --> 1:05:58.720 And I'm not even trying to criticize Nick. I was 1:05:58.760 --> 1:06:01.320 going towards a danger point there and just using that 1:06:01.380 --> 1:06:02.760 as a larger example. 1:06:03.240 --> 1:06:06.050 It's great for Alex to let the guy talk when 1:06:06.070 --> 1:06:07.870 he's saying that they just want to end to the 1:06:08.010 --> 1:06:11.790 two tier justice system and economic opportunity. But as soon 1:06:11.830 --> 1:06:15.450 as he says, identitarianism, Alex has got to cut that 1:06:15.530 --> 1:06:18.850 off because it's kind of clear that, uh, that is 1:06:18.890 --> 1:06:24.320 a major part of what, what they want. Um, so yeah, 1:06:24.360 --> 1:06:25.540 I think this guy's just wrong. 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:26.200 Yep. 1:06:26.580 --> 1:06:30.220 Unless his point was going to go on from the identitarianism. 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:32.870 to be like, they want a white country. 1:06:32.950 --> 1:06:33.189 Right. 1:06:34.090 --> 1:06:34.550 Absolutely. 1:06:34.570 --> 1:06:37.550 Unless he was going to expound on that. Right. Which 1:06:38.350 --> 1:06:39.580 I'm dubious of. 1:06:39.780 --> 1:06:43.940 I mean, it's entirely possible that he's thinking more along 1:06:43.980 --> 1:06:46.720 the lines of, like, the kids want people to respect. 1:06:47.660 --> 1:06:49.770 gender concepts and identities and all of that. 1:06:49.660 --> 1:06:52.710 Stuff based on the rest of his interview i don't think. 1:06:52.610 --> 1:06:56.550 So okay okay because that does there's only two options 1:06:56.630 --> 1:06:59.900 right there's like i'm using identitarianism as a way of 1:06:59.940 --> 1:07:03.400 saying these white people just really love whites yeah or 1:07:03.480 --> 1:07:06.260 like how fine i'll say they you know like there's 1:07:06.300 --> 1:07:07.760 very few middle grounds there. 1:07:07.950 --> 1:07:12.010 Yeah I think I think that they are still like 1:07:12.090 --> 1:07:15.650 no matter what they mean, there is just a desire 1:07:15.750 --> 1:07:18.470 to be like the kids. They don't mean it. 1:07:20.050 --> 1:07:24.660 I mean, I like I don't even know how many 1:07:24.740 --> 1:07:28.300 generations there are now, because I think people used to 1:07:28.340 --> 1:07:28.780 have like. 1:07:29.160 --> 1:07:32.400 The three generations of the old, you know, the witches. 1:07:32.440 --> 1:07:34.780 You had the maiden, the mother, and the crone, you know? 1:07:34.800 --> 1:07:38.580 It feels like the maiden's like 50 generations at this point. 1:07:38.640 --> 1:07:42.020 You know, like the eight-year-olds have complaints about the 10-year-olds. 1:07:42.060 --> 1:07:43.940 They're like, we live in different ecosystems. 1:07:44.020 --> 1:07:44.640 And they should. 1:07:44.920 --> 1:07:45.520 Exactly. 1:07:46.200 --> 1:07:48.620 One of them was in middle school during COVID and 1:07:48.640 --> 1:07:49.780 the other one was in elementary. 1:07:49.890 --> 1:07:50.220 Right? 1:07:50.450 --> 1:07:51.390 Like it's totally. 1:07:51.570 --> 1:07:52.470 Completely different. 1:07:52.510 --> 1:07:54.300 Yeah. Yeah. 1:07:54.400 --> 1:07:56.160 You can't finger paint on Zoom. 1:07:56.300 --> 1:07:56.560 Who? 1:07:56.660 --> 1:07:59.460 Yeah. Who could possibly be like, oh, the youths and 1:07:59.500 --> 1:08:00.280 have a block? 1:08:00.460 --> 1:08:00.720 Yeah. 1:08:00.860 --> 1:08:04.520 Who fucking knows what each individual lunatic they are is, 1:08:04.560 --> 1:08:05.200 you know? Yeah. 1:08:05.500 --> 1:08:09.360 And what lunaticness and, you know, maybe even some great 1:08:09.540 --> 1:08:13.880 things may manifest within five to ten years from totally 1:08:13.940 --> 1:08:15.600 whatever they've experienced, you know? 1:08:15.640 --> 1:08:15.780 Yeah. 1:08:16.770 --> 1:08:19.090 Let the kids do what they're always going to fucking 1:08:19.110 --> 1:08:20.570 do and quit bitching about them. 1:08:20.770 --> 1:08:24.450 Yeah, and stop trying to cover your ass about how 1:08:24.490 --> 1:08:27.880 you're enabling Nazis by pretending that their racism isn't real. 1:08:27.900 --> 1:08:28.640 They're just rebellious. 1:08:28.700 --> 1:08:29.339 It's just rebellious. 1:08:30.040 --> 1:08:33.439 So a lot of this interview ends up being like, 1:08:33.700 --> 1:08:34.620 shit's bad for Trump. 1:08:34.840 --> 1:08:35.690 Yeah. 1:08:36.010 --> 1:08:40.519 And so Alex ends by saying, joking about killing himself mark. 1:08:40.400 --> 1:08:43.800 Mitchell amazing interview uh we're raising the bat signal you 1:08:43.820 --> 1:08:46.260 know out to trump elon everybody this is serious thank 1:08:46.280 --> 1:08:51.270 you so much great to be here thanks oh now 1:08:51.310 --> 1:08:53.900 let's all go slit our wrists i'm not going to 1:08:53.920 --> 1:08:55.960 commit suicide. They killed me today. I'd never commit suicide. 1:08:56.180 --> 1:08:59.380 That's a metaphorical thing. It's an analogy. I'm actually going 1:08:59.400 --> 1:09:02.440 to jump out of a building. I'm joking. All right, folks. 1:09:04.380 --> 1:09:05.680 Is that joking? Doing good. 1:09:05.780 --> 1:09:06.439 Is that joking? 1:09:06.540 --> 1:09:10.879 Balls and strikes. That one's a strike. 1:09:11.120 --> 1:09:12.490 Okay, so.... 1:09:13.780 --> 1:09:15.900 I mean, I think it's just a recognition of things 1:09:15.970 --> 1:09:17.910 are being things are bad. Sure, sure. 1:09:17.970 --> 1:09:21.090 But I'm saying if I'm Alex and I am there, 1:09:21.590 --> 1:09:27.270 you know, I. It'd be fun to leave behind an eternal. 1:09:26.910 --> 1:09:29.020 Mystery of like, no, he didn't. 1:09:29.300 --> 1:09:29.560 Sure. 1:09:29.720 --> 1:09:31.880 Right. That's how you want. That's how I would want 1:09:31.920 --> 1:09:33.600 to go. I would want no one to ever know 1:09:33.640 --> 1:09:34.019 for sure. 1:09:34.260 --> 1:09:34.500 Right. 1:09:34.560 --> 1:09:38.519 You would have to kill yourself in like the most 1:09:39.160 --> 1:09:40.390 implausible way. 1:09:40.439 --> 1:09:41.090 Yep. Yep. 1:09:41.130 --> 1:09:43.050 Because you'd want to be the thing that is a 1:09:43.130 --> 1:09:43.950 riddle forever. 1:09:44.010 --> 1:09:44.910 Yeah, absolutely. 1:09:44.950 --> 1:09:49.170 You want everybody to make a documentary indicting a different 1:09:49.210 --> 1:09:51.290 three-letter organization for your murder. 1:09:51.350 --> 1:09:53.630 Yeah. The problem is that no one would do that now. 1:09:53.750 --> 1:09:54.370 No, no. 1:09:54.790 --> 1:09:58.720 Like, he couldn't, I don't think he could generate a mystery. 1:09:58.979 --> 1:09:59.760 Yeah, man. 1:10:00.189 --> 1:10:01.110 Man, that's dark. 1:10:01.340 --> 1:10:01.580 Yeah. 1:10:01.760 --> 1:10:04.260 That's dark. It would make me want to throw myself 1:10:04.320 --> 1:10:04.700 out a window. 1:10:04.880 --> 1:10:06.800 Yeah. Fenestration. 1:10:06.820 --> 1:10:08.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:10:08.920 --> 1:10:12.180 So because this conversation ended up involving Nick a little 1:10:12.200 --> 1:10:14.620 bit and about how his Nazism isn't real, it's kind 1:10:14.660 --> 1:10:15.360 of insincere. 1:10:15.520 --> 1:10:16.220 Yeah. 1:10:16.400 --> 1:10:21.550 Alex comes back after this break, this commercial break, talking 1:10:21.590 --> 1:10:22.630 about Nick a little. Okay. 1:10:23.310 --> 1:10:27.070 I literally, in the last year and a half, had 1:10:27.130 --> 1:10:32.160 private conversations with Nick Fuentes. And I told him a 1:10:32.160 --> 1:10:34.240 lot of stuff I thought was going to happen. Most 1:10:34.300 --> 1:10:37.729 of it came true. So he got a little more, 1:10:37.750 --> 1:10:41.150 I think, respect for me. He's always respected me. And 1:10:41.170 --> 1:10:43.490 I think Nick's a really smart, funny guy. And, you know, 1:10:43.560 --> 1:10:46.560 with all the attacks on Christians and conservatives saying we're Satan, 1:10:46.600 --> 1:10:48.800 our DNA is bad. You can't say anything bad about 1:10:48.840 --> 1:10:51.180 him when he says all his racist stuff. I mean, 1:10:51.200 --> 1:10:53.360 just you're the ones that created this atmosphere. I'm not 1:10:53.400 --> 1:10:55.540 engaged because I see where it goes long term. 1:10:55.920 --> 1:10:57.019 Oh, so his stuff is racist. 1:10:57.689 --> 1:11:01.950 So if I understand correctly, the people who didn't say 1:11:02.010 --> 1:11:05.390 the stuff that you believe they said are at fault 1:11:05.670 --> 1:11:10.170 for the things that you believe Nick Fuentes actually means 1:11:10.650 --> 1:11:12.010 about what he actually said. 1:11:12.310 --> 1:11:12.510 Right. 1:11:12.530 --> 1:11:16.190 Yeah. And, you know, let's talk about right speech here 1:11:16.210 --> 1:11:19.990 a little bit. When you say that you're not involved 1:11:20.070 --> 1:11:21.670 in it, you're very involved. 1:11:21.689 --> 1:11:22.450 Wow. 1:11:22.670 --> 1:11:23.430 I'm a little involved. 1:11:23.530 --> 1:11:27.490 Alex doesn't have. you know, friendly, frequent interviews with people 1:11:27.530 --> 1:11:30.150 who think white people are the devil. Sure. 1:11:30.210 --> 1:11:32.310 I have them on every couple of weeks. All right. 1:11:32.430 --> 1:11:34.450 So I'm a little involved. So maybe he's now a 1:11:34.560 --> 1:11:36.200 recurring guest on my show. 1:11:36.280 --> 1:11:36.500 Sure. 1:11:36.520 --> 1:11:37.479 Another way of putting that. 1:11:37.500 --> 1:11:39.360 Uh, yeah. 1:11:39.380 --> 1:11:41.280 So like a paid regular would be another way of 1:11:41.320 --> 1:11:42.700 describing something along those lines. 1:11:42.720 --> 1:11:42.900 Yeah. 1:11:43.270 --> 1:11:43.550 Yeah. 1:11:43.790 --> 1:11:43.950 Yep. 1:11:44.070 --> 1:11:44.849 Totally uninvolved. 1:11:44.870 --> 1:11:45.050 Yeah. 1:11:45.130 --> 1:11:45.530 Uninvolved. 1:11:45.729 --> 1:11:46.589 And Trump is silent. 1:11:46.830 --> 1:11:49.220 Well, he's ignoring it. 1:11:49.689 --> 1:11:53.580 So Alex gets he doesn't interview with Viva Frye. I 1:11:53.960 --> 1:11:55.840 don't care. It's just about how Canada is a mess. 1:11:56.400 --> 1:11:57.720 Oh, Canada is going to struggle. 1:11:57.960 --> 1:12:00.939 And we get to the third hour and Alex is like, 1:12:01.460 --> 1:12:06.220 I still really haven't covered this Epstein for obvious reasons. Yeah. 1:12:06.360 --> 1:12:07.320 Oh, boy. 1:12:07.439 --> 1:12:14.230 All right. I did not get to the Jeffrey Epstein stuff. 1:12:14.310 --> 1:12:15.330 I mean, I covered it. 1:12:16.060 --> 1:12:16.280 Did you? 1:12:16.290 --> 1:12:18.650 But I didn't do the deep dive here. And I 1:12:18.670 --> 1:12:22.950 said this earlier in the hour. I said, or last hour, 1:12:22.990 --> 1:12:26.550 I said, should I even defend Trump on this? 1:12:27.110 --> 1:12:27.309 No. 1:12:29.390 --> 1:12:30.850 I'm asking myself that right now. 1:12:31.530 --> 1:12:31.769 Don't. 1:12:32.010 --> 1:12:34.390 Because he's not involved with these underage girls. 1:12:34.729 --> 1:12:35.250 Yes, he is. 1:12:36.689 --> 1:12:40.310 Days of evidence to even cover it. And the new 1:12:40.350 --> 1:12:42.630 stuff they brought out, it's the top story ever. Oh, God, 1:12:42.650 --> 1:12:45.070 he's caught red-handed. And you read it, and I already 1:12:45.090 --> 1:12:48.750 know the back story. It's exculpatory. It makes Trump look good. 1:12:52.210 --> 1:12:56.350 Because this is what happened. And they would have already 1:12:56.479 --> 1:13:00.599 used this stuff on him if they had it. So 1:13:00.660 --> 1:13:02.720 it's an interesting story. It shows how the corporate media 1:13:02.760 --> 1:13:05.660 lies and spins. I think we already know they do that. 1:13:06.960 --> 1:13:08.360 Should I even do this? 1:13:09.020 --> 1:13:11.160 No. No. No. 1:13:11.520 --> 1:13:11.820 No. 1:13:12.390 --> 1:13:13.290 No, the answer is no. 1:13:13.430 --> 1:13:14.610 Do you know how bad it is? 1:13:15.229 --> 1:13:19.350 I officially can say, go fuck yourself, Michael Wolff, just 1:13:19.410 --> 1:13:21.210 because he sent an email to the guy. 1:13:21.570 --> 1:13:26.019 I don't need extra details. There's no other information I need. 1:13:26.420 --> 1:13:27.040 Fuck that guy. 1:13:27.120 --> 1:13:30.280 I think this is some real existential business for Alex, 1:13:30.320 --> 1:13:33.860 where he's struggling with, like, should I even... Should I 1:13:33.860 --> 1:13:36.560 even fucking do this? He's trying to articulate it as 1:13:36.620 --> 1:13:39.309 Trump is so innocent. Should I even defend him? Right. 1:13:39.350 --> 1:13:41.750 That's obviously not right. What's going on? 1:13:41.810 --> 1:13:43.889 No, he's so fucking guilty. 1:13:44.170 --> 1:13:47.670 Even I am struggling to come up with any possible 1:13:47.710 --> 1:13:50.720 way to not say this man is obviously guilty. 1:13:50.840 --> 1:13:55.340 Yeah. And to deny like that, there's more information that 1:13:55.420 --> 1:13:56.340 is going to come out. 1:13:56.439 --> 1:13:56.679 Yeah. 1:13:57.860 --> 1:14:00.820 And like, it's just, it's just a guy who's like, 1:14:01.040 --> 1:14:04.200 fuck he's trapped. There's no other way to put it. 1:14:04.229 --> 1:14:06.889 Like he wants to jump out a window. 1:14:07.270 --> 1:14:11.050 We're reaching. Can God create a mountain so big? He 1:14:11.070 --> 1:14:14.810 can't move it. Territory on how fucking guilty this guy is. 1:14:14.900 --> 1:14:15.189 Yeah. 1:14:15.340 --> 1:14:16.860 He's so fucking guilty. 1:14:16.880 --> 1:14:17.480 Yeah. 1:14:17.500 --> 1:14:19.080 There's no other way to describe it. 1:14:19.380 --> 1:14:25.160 And Alex is like, There are other white supremacist people 1:14:25.240 --> 1:14:28.600 that Alex could rally behind. Sure. There's other leaders. He 1:14:28.620 --> 1:14:31.440 could jump to J.D. Vance or whatever. There's plenty of 1:14:31.560 --> 1:14:35.130 options available for him to choose a new God King 1:14:35.210 --> 1:14:38.830 kind of guy. The fact that he doesn't is weird 1:14:38.870 --> 1:14:39.090 to me. 1:14:39.630 --> 1:14:42.710 I think it's an admission that none of them are funny. 1:14:43.450 --> 1:14:46.290 It's an admission that none of them have any charisma. 1:14:46.670 --> 1:14:51.670 It's an admission that for whatever reason, Trump's specific brand 1:14:51.729 --> 1:14:56.290 of douchebaggery resonates with a specific person and they cannot 1:14:56.350 --> 1:14:56.930 recreate it. 1:14:57.130 --> 1:15:00.100 Well, I think that's part of it. Definitely. That's definitely 1:15:00.140 --> 1:15:04.800 part of the charm that people are personally into. Yeah. 1:15:05.040 --> 1:15:09.000 I think it's also a belief that Alex has that, 1:15:09.340 --> 1:15:13.100 that any other politician would not help him. Like, if 1:15:13.140 --> 1:15:15.940 he goes to jail, Trump will probably get him out 1:15:15.979 --> 1:15:16.160 of jail. 1:15:16.180 --> 1:15:17.280 Trump will pardon him. 1:15:17.320 --> 1:15:18.360 He pardoned Roger. 1:15:18.560 --> 1:15:19.320 Yeah. 1:15:19.479 --> 1:15:20.179 Vance wouldn't. 1:15:20.580 --> 1:15:23.600 See, that's why you want a corrupt president. 1:15:23.660 --> 1:15:23.960 Yeah. 1:15:24.380 --> 1:15:26.860 Because you're on the side of the good corruption, right? 1:15:26.880 --> 1:15:29.240 I think that that's maybe what I feel. 1:15:29.320 --> 1:15:30.620 Man, yeah, you're right. 1:15:30.640 --> 1:15:35.370 Because if somebody had helped get Obama elected in the 1:15:35.450 --> 1:15:38.470 same way that Stone did, Obama would distance himself. 1:15:38.570 --> 1:15:38.809 Yes. 1:15:38.870 --> 1:15:41.410 And be like, that was never blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1:15:41.850 --> 1:15:43.510 Trump is the only one who's like, fuck yeah, I'll 1:15:43.550 --> 1:15:43.990 pardon him. 1:15:44.030 --> 1:15:45.770 Yeah, I gotta take care of my guys. 1:15:45.830 --> 1:15:47.210 What are you gonna do about it? 1:15:47.250 --> 1:15:48.750 Everyone from January 6th. 1:15:48.770 --> 1:15:51.770 You got it done. What are you gonna do about it? 1:15:51.810 --> 1:15:54.270 Fucking nothing. That's what you're gonna do about it. 1:15:54.290 --> 1:15:57.720 Yeah, so I think that Alex has every reason to 1:15:57.800 --> 1:16:02.400 think that if anyone would get his back just out 1:16:02.439 --> 1:16:03.960 of spite, it would be Trump. 1:16:04.000 --> 1:16:07.040 That would be, oh man, that is, that's a big 1:16:07.100 --> 1:16:07.580 Trump card. 1:16:07.860 --> 1:16:08.959 Yeah, literally. 1:16:08.979 --> 1:16:10.240 Pun strongly intended. 1:16:10.280 --> 1:16:10.720 Yeah. Yep. 1:16:11.100 --> 1:16:13.510 So Trump's covering up the Epstein stuff, which is the 1:16:13.550 --> 1:16:15.610 deep dive, I guess. Sure. But it's cool. 1:16:16.010 --> 1:16:21.570 Oh, because Trump with Ratcliffe for Israel and the CIA, 1:16:22.060 --> 1:16:22.730 not just Mossad. 1:16:23.140 --> 1:16:24.040 In the conservatory. 1:16:24.640 --> 1:16:26.560 Are covering it up for national security because of how 1:16:26.580 --> 1:16:29.179 many big corporate leaders are involved. It's not Trump. So 1:16:30.200 --> 1:16:32.099 I've said it. I'm not holding my nose on Trump. 1:16:32.160 --> 1:16:33.939 He's in there. He's way better than Kamala, but I'm 1:16:33.970 --> 1:16:42.820 going to cover this stuff. He is. The Intel connections 1:16:43.580 --> 1:16:46.290 and the head of Harvard and all these other hedge 1:16:46.330 --> 1:16:48.910 fund people, most of them Democrats, almost all of them, 1:16:49.950 --> 1:16:53.090 because Trump has been convinced it's too damaging to bring out. 1:16:53.430 --> 1:16:56.650 And then there's some back leverage on the bad guys 1:16:56.950 --> 1:16:59.770 like the king of England and his brother to make 1:16:59.790 --> 1:17:02.270 them play ball. Well, it don't look like they're playing ball. 1:17:02.720 --> 1:17:04.780 Doesn't look like your blackmail worked too good because you're 1:17:04.820 --> 1:17:07.650 getting it's being used on you. And that's why Trump's 1:17:07.670 --> 1:17:08.110 so pissed. 1:17:08.150 --> 1:17:08.550 Wait, what? 1:17:08.850 --> 1:17:11.150 Which I said that's one of the things he might do. 1:17:11.410 --> 1:17:11.809 Wait, wait, wait. 1:17:11.830 --> 1:17:15.130 He either brings it all out. Damn, the torpedoes go 1:17:15.170 --> 1:17:17.110 straight at him. Justice be done by the heavens fall. 1:17:18.290 --> 1:17:21.769 That's what I'd do. What? Or he tries to manage 1:17:21.850 --> 1:17:25.970 it because, you know, he didn't want to bring down 1:17:25.990 --> 1:17:29.650 the whole country. Well, the cover-up is what's going to 1:17:29.670 --> 1:17:33.290 bring down the country. So I already war-gamed this. 1:17:33.450 --> 1:17:33.979 I hit it. 1:17:35.510 --> 1:17:40.750 Hole-in-one. And I guess I'll just go through it quickly 1:17:40.950 --> 1:17:42.650 and maybe I'll do a longer report because it's, it's, 1:17:43.110 --> 1:17:45.130 I did so much preparation for this. It's hard to 1:17:45.170 --> 1:17:47.810 just kind of skim over it, which still my skimming over, 1:17:47.830 --> 1:17:49.890 it will be the deepest, deepest dive anybody does on it, 1:17:50.410 --> 1:17:52.410 which is again, super frustrating because I see all these 1:17:52.550 --> 1:17:54.890 idiots that don't know anything. And I'm not saying that 1:17:54.970 --> 1:17:56.650 from pleasure. I'm like, why do I know so much 1:17:56.670 --> 1:17:57.990 more than everybody, man? 1:17:58.030 --> 1:18:01.020 It's gotta be tough. He's too smart to live. 1:18:01.439 --> 1:18:01.799 Okay. 1:18:02.380 --> 1:18:02.700 Okay. 1:18:03.240 --> 1:18:10.979 Now if I'm, Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe I'm crazy. 1:18:11.420 --> 1:18:14.340 Because to me, what I just heard this guy say, right, 1:18:14.600 --> 1:18:16.700 is that despite. 1:18:16.260 --> 1:18:18.840 Having screamed for years and years and. 1:18:18.800 --> 1:18:22.340 Years about being a populist, yada, yada, yada, who's against 1:18:22.439 --> 1:18:25.990 the global steep state, yada, yada, yada, who hates corruption, yada, yada. 1:18:26.010 --> 1:18:26.930 You know, the whole thing, right? 1:18:26.950 --> 1:18:27.269 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:18:27.490 --> 1:18:28.290 That's his whole thing. 1:18:28.410 --> 1:18:32.710 Despite all of that, if I were in power, I 1:18:32.750 --> 1:18:34.849 would do everything the same way that they did. 1:18:35.580 --> 1:18:37.219 That's the smart thing to do. 1:18:37.320 --> 1:18:41.510 No, Alex is saying for himself, he would release everything 1:18:41.910 --> 1:18:43.790 and just let the chips fall where they may. I 1:18:43.810 --> 1:18:46.090 don't believe him, Okay. But that's what he's saying. 1:18:46.290 --> 1:18:47.189 Right, right, right, right. 1:18:47.229 --> 1:18:52.390 He's saying that Trump is either, like, totally involved in 1:18:52.410 --> 1:18:56.650 the cover-up. Right. Or he's taking the blackmail to use 1:18:56.670 --> 1:18:58.849 it against Prince or King Charles. 1:18:58.990 --> 1:19:01.180 Right. How do you like that blackmail ball? 1:19:01.270 --> 1:19:04.140 And it's not working because people are using it against Trump. 1:19:04.640 --> 1:19:04.740 Jesus. 1:19:04.760 --> 1:19:05.120 So, like. 1:19:05.970 --> 1:19:08.130 He's saying that those are the two options of what 1:19:08.170 --> 1:19:11.340 Trump is doing. Right. Whereas for him, he would damn 1:19:11.380 --> 1:19:13.400 the torpedoes straight ahead. 1:19:13.500 --> 1:19:13.840 Okay. 1:19:14.100 --> 1:19:15.680 Okay. It's bullshit. 1:19:15.939 --> 1:19:16.139 Yeah. 1:19:16.340 --> 1:19:22.880 But it makes his behavior a little bit less incongruous 1:19:22.900 --> 1:19:23.479 with his character. 1:19:23.520 --> 1:19:25.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that backwards. 1:19:26.120 --> 1:19:29.190 Yeah, but it's still him saying he is this guy 1:19:29.250 --> 1:19:32.559 who hates corruption and all this shit. Right. if the 1:19:32.600 --> 1:19:35.400 guy that you elected and staked your entire career on 1:19:35.810 --> 1:19:39.309 decides to go with the deep state, maybe you gotta 1:19:39.350 --> 1:19:40.350 hold your nose. 1:19:40.430 --> 1:19:42.769 What is the implication of saying that that is a 1:19:42.850 --> 1:19:44.790 smart move? You know what I mean? 1:19:46.189 --> 1:19:47.550 Right, you'd have to think it's stupid. 1:19:47.850 --> 1:19:50.250 You can't think that it is a smart move and 1:19:50.450 --> 1:19:53.370 also think that you would do something different without thinking 1:19:53.390 --> 1:19:54.030 that the thing. 1:19:53.950 --> 1:19:57.370 You would do is stupid in comparison to the smart move, right? 1:19:58.010 --> 1:19:59.390 Unless they're like real close. 1:20:00.189 --> 1:20:00.550 Fair enough. 1:20:00.630 --> 1:20:01.660 You know, both are stupid. 1:20:01.700 --> 1:20:03.980 Yeah, you know, like, hey, if you're in a toss-up, 1:20:04.000 --> 1:20:05.420 fuck it, I'll do the one that I want to do. 1:20:05.560 --> 1:20:06.530 I get what you're saying there. 1:20:06.550 --> 1:20:11.990 Yeah. It's tough, because I think what he's... trying to 1:20:12.050 --> 1:20:15.510 appeal to is that there would be huge consequences. 1:20:15.630 --> 1:20:16.590 Right, right, right. 1:20:16.790 --> 1:20:20.110 What would happen is everything that you have desired to 1:20:20.170 --> 1:20:22.880 happen to the government since we started this whole Trump 1:20:22.900 --> 1:20:24.020 thing 10 years. 1:20:23.810 --> 1:20:28.360 Ago, if he released that information, you would get everything 1:20:28.400 --> 1:20:28.740 you want. 1:20:29.120 --> 1:20:32.040 Which would be a big change. 1:20:32.160 --> 1:20:33.580 Right, and you would hate that. 1:20:33.939 --> 1:20:36.080 To get everything that you wanted since the beginning that 1:20:36.280 --> 1:20:37.910 was the whole reason that this journey started. 1:20:37.930 --> 1:20:39.550 Well, I mean, ironically, yes. 1:20:39.850 --> 1:20:40.570 Yeah, exactly. 1:20:40.600 --> 1:20:43.259 Alex would have no reason to exist. 1:20:43.500 --> 1:20:43.700 Nope. 1:20:44.380 --> 1:20:47.600 There would be no secret conspiracy that's behind the scenes 1:20:47.640 --> 1:20:51.920 that only he's smart enough to have smelled out. So, yeah, 1:20:51.960 --> 1:20:52.939 of course he doesn't want that. 1:20:53.000 --> 1:20:56.820 His existence is predicated on their existence. That they don't 1:20:56.880 --> 1:20:59.360 exist means he has an eternal job security. 1:20:59.460 --> 1:21:02.580 Yeah. So we have one last clip, and it's Alex. 1:21:03.380 --> 1:21:05.860 He is in nothing but damage control. 1:21:06.700 --> 1:21:08.600 Well, it turns out we have the emails now, and 1:21:08.620 --> 1:21:11.110 this is the best they had. They say in a 1:21:11.130 --> 1:21:13.450 couple days, a week, they're going to release it all. 1:21:15.840 --> 1:21:19.020 But the first thing they release is Epstein talking to 1:21:19.060 --> 1:21:24.900 the guy writing an anti-Trump book, Wolf. And it's, yeah, 1:21:24.939 --> 1:21:26.850 Trump was really mad. I was getting girls out of 1:21:26.890 --> 1:21:30.030 his club. And, you know, his wife was mad. Everybody 1:21:30.050 --> 1:21:32.530 else was mad at me. And so he dropped a 1:21:32.570 --> 1:21:35.470 dime on me. That's what the emails say. I'll show 1:21:35.490 --> 1:21:37.390 them to you. But when you read Drugs Report or 1:21:37.430 --> 1:21:42.700 watch CNN, it's, oh, Epstein emails claim Trump knew about 1:21:42.760 --> 1:21:48.009 the girls, spent hours with the victim. Well, yeah, they 1:21:48.050 --> 1:21:50.650 worked at Mar-a-Lago, and the victim said Trump never did 1:21:50.689 --> 1:21:53.390 anything to him, and the other victim said that, and 1:21:53.430 --> 1:21:55.650 out of the hundreds, only two were ever at Mar-a-Lago. 1:21:57.490 --> 1:22:01.800 But you read these headlines, you think he's totally guilty. 1:22:02.250 --> 1:22:04.590 So the email never says that Trump dropped a dime 1:22:04.670 --> 1:22:06.590 on him. Alex is just adding that so it works 1:22:06.630 --> 1:22:07.349 better for the narrative. 1:22:07.370 --> 1:22:07.910 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:22:08.189 --> 1:22:10.340 Also, the email doesn't say that Trump spent time with 1:22:10.380 --> 1:22:13.480 one of the victims at Mar-a-Lago. It specifically says that 1:22:13.520 --> 1:22:17.140 he spent hours with her at Epstein's house. Alex is 1:22:17.200 --> 1:22:19.550 lying about this because if he didn't, it would be 1:22:19.700 --> 1:22:23.210 very hard to spin. It makes sense. Oh, the reason 1:22:23.229 --> 1:22:25.610 that Epstein would say that he spent hours with one 1:22:25.630 --> 1:22:28.820 of the victims is because she worked at Mar-a-Lago. Duh, 1:22:28.860 --> 1:22:33.729 that's the innocent explanation. But it's defending against the wrong claim. 1:22:34.270 --> 1:22:35.470 Said it's at Epstein's house. 1:22:36.580 --> 1:22:40.900 Yeah, it feels like this is him, like, modeling argument 1:22:40.939 --> 1:22:41.900 behavior for you. 1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:42.439 Yeah. 1:22:42.479 --> 1:22:45.960 You know, like, take this argument with you whenever your 1:22:46.040 --> 1:22:49.520 libtard friends are like, but her emails. 1:22:49.560 --> 1:22:51.860 Then you can go, actually, but, but, but, you know, 1:22:51.900 --> 1:22:52.509 that whole thing. 1:22:52.550 --> 1:22:55.130 You might be able to get someone who hasn't read 1:22:55.210 --> 1:22:58.110 them or whatever, unconfident and on their back foot. 1:22:58.189 --> 1:22:58.349 Yep. 1:22:58.530 --> 1:23:01.990 And that's going to be good enough for whatever altercation 1:23:02.030 --> 1:23:02.510 you get in. 1:23:02.710 --> 1:23:02.870 Right. 1:23:03.490 --> 1:23:06.450 It's not good enough for analysis though. No, no. 1:23:06.550 --> 1:23:09.759 And it's not good enough for that argument because regardless 1:23:09.979 --> 1:23:14.560 of like whether or not you're ready to understand the analysis. 1:23:15.610 --> 1:23:18.490 The fundament that it exists. 1:23:18.010 --> 1:23:21.440 At all is the problem that you can't erase, you know, 1:23:21.500 --> 1:23:24.400 like there's no way to get around this. These are 1:23:24.500 --> 1:23:28.160 emails about Trump and Epstein being in the same place 1:23:28.200 --> 1:23:31.100 with children, you know, like that shouldn't exist. 1:23:31.439 --> 1:23:31.620 Yeah. 1:23:31.939 --> 1:23:36.710 And I honestly think that there is no real reason 1:23:37.550 --> 1:23:43.519 to ever give a positive explanation for, for being associated 1:23:43.560 --> 1:23:47.880 with Epstein, knowing that he was recruiting minors out of 1:23:47.939 --> 1:23:52.480 your resort and not like having a history of scorched 1:23:52.530 --> 1:23:56.770 earth against the person. Like if you don't try to 1:23:56.850 --> 1:23:59.910 kill them, then you're complicit. 1:24:00.110 --> 1:24:00.309 Yeah. 1:24:00.810 --> 1:24:04.980 Essentially. Like there's, there's no version of this history that 1:24:05.060 --> 1:24:09.250 isn't like, well, it's a, small response that you had 1:24:09.430 --> 1:24:11.840 yeah absolutely not you go to the press and talk 1:24:11.850 --> 1:24:14.700 about how jeffrey epstein likes i'm young i mean jesus 1:24:14.740 --> 1:24:18.620 make jokes about it right right about mysteries and friendship 1:24:18.700 --> 1:24:22.180 riddles in a birthday book like you don't do this shit. 1:24:22.350 --> 1:24:26.410 How is it how is it possible that there aren't 1:24:27.410 --> 1:24:30.630 just no fuck oh man you know it's like it 1:24:30.689 --> 1:24:34.950 feels like there could be automatic guide rails in place 1:24:35.010 --> 1:24:38.400 for shit like, Oh, this guy's associated with a pedophile billionaire. 1:24:38.850 --> 1:24:41.160 Like that feels like something that if we're going to 1:24:41.280 --> 1:24:44.059 venerate the founding fathers, I think I could have thought 1:24:44.100 --> 1:24:48.380 of that day one, no pedophile, super rich people guys. Just, 1:24:48.520 --> 1:24:51.059 I know it seems, it seems like a bit much 1:24:51.160 --> 1:24:53.979 right now to put in the preamble, but I swear 1:24:54.020 --> 1:24:54.730 it's going to pay off. 1:24:54.970 --> 1:24:58.610 Yeah. Yeah. It would be good. It would be good. Um, 1:24:58.810 --> 1:25:01.710 I think it's, it should be across the aisle, uh, 1:25:02.979 --> 1:25:04.110 type of issue. 1:25:03.760 --> 1:25:07.420 I feel like i've connected with everybody regardless of political 1:25:07.560 --> 1:25:10.599 beliefs for most of my entire life about hey no 1:25:10.640 --> 1:25:15.470 pedophile billionaires somehow now in the year 2025 there's ambiguity 1:25:15.520 --> 1:25:16.229 about this. 1:25:17.210 --> 1:25:19.790 Yeah i think we were lulled into a false sense 1:25:19.810 --> 1:25:23.210 of security because like dennis was got. 1:25:23.070 --> 1:25:26.780 In trouble yeah yeah you got one yeah yeah. 1:25:26.810 --> 1:25:28.680 And i think it made it made people feel like 1:25:29.020 --> 1:25:31.660 We've got it. People will take this seriously. 1:25:31.700 --> 1:25:34.650 Yeah, we got one so we can do it again. 1:25:35.510 --> 1:25:40.590 So I think with Alex, there's just like, this is sad. 1:25:40.610 --> 1:25:47.469 I don't have any desire to rebut him or to 1:25:47.530 --> 1:25:51.260 debunk whatever he's saying because it's meaningless. This is a 1:25:51.760 --> 1:25:57.019 disconnected from his soul person. There is nothing about Alex 1:25:57.760 --> 1:26:03.019 the career that he built, the fake integrity that he 1:26:03.500 --> 1:26:06.559 wore as a costume that would be able to be like, 1:26:07.040 --> 1:26:12.180 he's involved in the Epstein cover-up now, but not before. Like, 1:26:12.240 --> 1:26:16.570 that's ludicrous. You've lost the game and given up already. 1:26:17.710 --> 1:26:19.710 And that's generally how I feel about him. 1:26:20.050 --> 1:26:22.670 Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. 1:26:22.689 --> 1:26:26.410 I think the one problem that I have with this 1:26:26.770 --> 1:26:30.850 is that To me, once you've reached what should be 1:26:30.910 --> 1:26:36.070 rock bottom, licking the boots of an Epstein cover-up, that 1:26:36.150 --> 1:26:37.440 feels rock bottom-y, right? 1:26:37.460 --> 1:26:37.540 Yeah. 1:26:38.270 --> 1:26:42.389 And if you have another choice that takes you lower 1:26:42.710 --> 1:26:45.410 and you take that choice, to me that is like, well. 1:26:45.450 --> 1:26:45.810 Fuck it. 1:26:45.990 --> 1:26:46.610 Let's dive. 1:26:46.870 --> 1:26:48.270 Hanging out with a child Nazi. 1:26:48.310 --> 1:26:52.800 Yeah. No more stair steps down to the bottom. Baby, 1:26:52.939 --> 1:26:56.080 I'm going head first. We're going to try and find 1:26:56.160 --> 1:26:58.180 as deep as this pool goes, and I'm going to 1:26:58.200 --> 1:26:59.820 be a crazy person. 1:26:59.979 --> 1:27:00.139 Yeah. 1:27:00.160 --> 1:27:00.500 You know? 1:27:00.760 --> 1:27:03.340 That would be fun, but I think Alex has such 1:27:03.360 --> 1:27:06.720 a sense of himself as the hero that he could never... 1:27:07.110 --> 1:27:11.110 consciously go downward. Like he would never be able to 1:27:11.189 --> 1:27:15.259 like villainize himself and be like, I'm going, I'm going 1:27:15.320 --> 1:27:16.040 to the bottom. 1:27:16.120 --> 1:27:16.540 Yeah. 1:27:16.600 --> 1:27:19.979 That's his dramatic irony. Every, every heroic step he thinks 1:27:20.000 --> 1:27:21.220 he takes up is too down. 1:27:21.439 --> 1:27:21.719 Yeah. 1:27:21.800 --> 1:27:22.180 Yeah. 1:27:22.660 --> 1:27:26.040 So I, I guess he's just got to shoot for 1:27:26.060 --> 1:27:26.479 the stars. 1:27:29.860 --> 1:27:31.790 Keep on dreaming Alex. Keep on dreaming. 1:27:31.950 --> 1:27:33.010 Bigger dreams. 1:27:33.410 --> 1:27:35.450 You're going to get that painting show buddy. 1:27:35.550 --> 1:27:35.730 Yeah. 1:27:35.770 --> 1:27:39.059 Come on man. You can do it. So anyway, we'll 1:27:39.160 --> 1:27:41.340 check back in and see how he deals with the 1:27:41.500 --> 1:27:43.860 further emails that get released. 1:27:44.180 --> 1:27:45.479 Jesus Christ, what a world. 1:27:45.540 --> 1:27:47.340 But until then, we have a website. 1:27:47.400 --> 1:27:49.040 Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com. 1:27:49.200 --> 1:27:51.720 Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. 1:27:51.740 --> 1:27:54.250 I'm DZX Clark. I am the Mysterious Professor. 1:27:54.770 --> 1:27:58.850 Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo! And now here comes the 1:27:58.870 --> 1:27:59.689 sex robots. 1:28:00.030 --> 1:28:04.530 Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. 1:28:04.650 --> 1:28:05.450 I'm a first-time caller. 1:28:05.490 --> 1:28:07.510 I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.