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Speaker 1: It's now officially open.

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Speaker 2: of the New York Football Giants. I am John Smaul

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Speaker 1: Getting better as always.

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Speaker 2: I'm joined by my partner on Draft season, Tony Pauline,

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Speaker 2: who covers the draft and the NFL for essentially sports.

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Speaker 1: Tony, what's going on, man? How are you?

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Speaker 3: A lot of craziness with the free agency and now

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Speaker 3: the combine's over got to shift through all that information

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Speaker 3: and we're getting closer to uh, we're getting closer to

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Speaker 3: the draft weekend, which is actually a little bit earlier

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Speaker 3: than past year. So you've got to really be in

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Speaker 3: overdrive mode.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, we are.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if I do quick math, Tony, I believe

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Speaker 2: six weeks away, right, It's not much more than that.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So with the jam pack and a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: over the next six weeks as we get ready for

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Speaker 2: the draft, and you know, Tony and I come texting

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Speaker 2: back and forth. I'll give you, guys, they look behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes as to how we, you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: decide what we want to do on the show, and

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Speaker 2: Tony has a two round mock draft down right, Tony.

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Speaker 3: Right now, two round Jess.

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Speaker 2: We thought about doing a two round mock today and

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Speaker 2: taking a look at Tony's two round mock. I could

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Speaker 2: dissect it and tell Tony why it's terrible, but we

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Speaker 2: decided we decided that given free agencies like going on

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Speaker 2: right now, that it probably doesn't make a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of sense to do a mock when team needs or

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Speaker 2: are basically changing by the minute as teams signed a

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Speaker 1: The top of the draft.

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Speaker 2: The Tennessee Titans have I think signed fifty percent of

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Speaker 2: all the free agents in the next football league over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of days. So until we kind of

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Speaker 2: get a feel for this, we're not gonna We're gonna

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Speaker 2: do a market about two weeks when we have free

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Speaker 2: still very much up in the air.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you look at the top ten teams

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Speaker 3: safe to say that Caleb Downs is now off their board.

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Speaker 3: For those of us who thought there was a chance

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Speaker 3: teams did a real good job Philly need yesterday. Some

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Speaker 3: like the Philadelphia Eagles, saw a lot of holes created.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. So we'll track those over the next

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Speaker 2: two weeks. So instead today, we're gonna do Tony's top

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Speaker 2: tens on offense at each position. Next week we'll do

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Speaker 2: our top tens on defense at each position. Pro Day's

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Speaker 2: are starting to by the way, so update you on prodes,

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Speaker 2: any other news that we have in the draft, draft,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how we'll do it yet.

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Speaker 2: We'll either just go team by team, or maybe we'll

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Speaker 2: one show. So, Tony, I guess we could start a

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Speaker 3: Two? Maybe three? I mean Fernando Mendoza definitely, hy Simpson definitely, Maybe,

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think the knee jerk reaction is

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Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, little nugget ear from Tony Pauline. All right,

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Speaker 2: Garretnssmeyer's your three, he's my three as well. I'm with

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Speaker 2: seems like you're perfect four A to use a baseball

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I like what's going on between the ears.

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Speaker 3: I like the way he manages the game. But you said,

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Speaker 2: No, I'm with you, all right, then we'll go through

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Speaker 2: the next all three guys in round four, Carson back

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Speaker 1: So that is six guys.

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Speaker 2: Then you got ju Olier, Sawyer Robertson, and then a

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Speaker 2: And then Jaylen Daniels out of Kansas around things out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think Cole Peyton and Taylor Green have

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Speaker 3: a tremendous upside. They just need a real good quarterback coach.

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Speaker 3: and he was solid at the combine. Taylor and Green

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Speaker 3: the most physically gifted quarterback in this class, There's no

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Speaker 3: don't know what you're getting from Carson Beck. You know,

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Speaker 2: Is there anyone Tony in this group of sidesmen? Doz

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Speaker 3: Call Peyton. I believe, I mean he was good last

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Speaker 3: He's got terrific size, he's got the arm. He just

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Speaker 1: Either you're gonna go with your Mandrew Aller. I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: you didn't go with Alan. Let's hop over and running

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Speaker 1: back Tony.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know we make fun of Drew Ali,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't making fun of Drew Aller. I just remember

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Speaker 3: No, too much inconsistency's even worse than Carson back and

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Speaker 2: He's one of my top four players in this draft class,

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Speaker 2: And then Tony, you have three guys with second round grades.

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Speaker 2: Jadarian Price comes in at number three. Those guys tags

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Speaker 3: Think late late round too.

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Speaker 3: The reason I have washed him against ahead of Jendarium

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Speaker 1: No, I think that makes sense, Tony.

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Speaker 2: And then you have his teammate Nick Singleton with the

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Speaker 1: Really small, but really fast.

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Speaker 3: And very versatile. I mean, catches the ball well on

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Speaker 2: And then Nick Singleton, he's got the broken foot right

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Speaker 3: I mean, Singleton was rated as the highest senior ball

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Speaker 2: Early, yeah, and then into the fourth round Tony three

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Speaker 3: You know, when you watch jam Miller when he was

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Speaker 3: but you were talking about Jeremiah Love before. The way

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Speaker 2: All right, Tony, We talked about the NFL combine a

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Speaker 2: All right, tonyo, let's go to tight end here, and

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Speaker 2: we both have Kenyon Sadik with the first round grade.

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Speaker 2: I thought he really improved as this season went along.

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Speaker 2: He extended his rat tree for more than just a

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Speaker 3: I mean, the fact is this, you go back to

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Speaker 3: And I was a skeptic going into the season. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, top fifteen, top twelve. I

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Speaker 2: I think he's he has a true first round grade

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Speaker 1: He's like your best move tight end this draft.

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Speaker 2: Right. You want to split him out wide, you want

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Speaker 1: Yep, no, I'm with you, all right. Then we get

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Speaker 2: Right, you got a bunch of guys that are kind

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Speaker 2: Then you have Michael Trigg, the ultra athletic tight end

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Speaker 2: that of Balor, who I'm surprised to not do anything

436
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Speaker 2: at the maybe you have him insight on that. And

437
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 2: then Eli rear it In a favorite of mine. I

438
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 2: think he's a good all around player. He's in round four.

439
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 2: And then you have Oscar Delp, Tanner, Cozy Old, Justin

440
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 2: Jolly and Joe Royer in round five, and I bet

441
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Speaker 2: you the list goes on and on from there.

442
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Lake McCree, de Kwon Wright, Sam Rosh,

443
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Speaker 3: who I know is a favorite of yours. I mean

444
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Speaker 3: Claire Injuries in Trigg. They're all very athletic. I mean Claire,

445
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Speaker 3: you didn't test the combine. I think you watch him

446
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 3: on film and he looks very athletic. He's explosive. You know,

447
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 3: you talk about moved tight ends with Eli Stowers. That's

448
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 3: what Max Claire is, although he does give effort blocking

449
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,479
Speaker 3: tremendous pass catcher was I s I was maybe somewhat

450
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Speaker 3: sort of surprise that he entered the draft, But you're

451
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Speaker 3: you know, when you play at Ohio State and you

452
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Speaker 3: got guys like Carnell Tait and Jeremiah Smith there, and

453
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Speaker 3: the way they run the ball at tight end, You're

454
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Speaker 3: only going to get so many opportunities, so I guess

455
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Speaker 3: he figured he wasn't gonna get that more many more

456
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Speaker 3: opportunities next year with Jeremiah Smith, there a lot of upside.

457
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Speaker 3: Is a moved tight end jack injuries. Didn't have great

458
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: production last year at Texas, but he may go back

459
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Speaker 3: because you would be one of arch Many's favorite targets.

460
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Speaker 3: But again, a real good pass catcher who's not a

461
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Speaker 3: bad blocker. You watch him on the second level, he

462
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Speaker 3: does a good job blocking. You mentioned Trigg. I did

463
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Speaker 3: not hear anything why Trigg didn't work out at the Combine.

464
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 3: Didn't hear anything about an injury. But yeah, I mean

465
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Speaker 3: Trigg is he looks like a power forward on the

466
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Speaker 3: football field. Does have some drops, he's got to be

467
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Speaker 3: more consistent with his hands, but a big play guy

468
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Speaker 3: that you can line up on the line of scrimmage

469
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Speaker 3: or out in the slot. I think we're Raritan and Delp.

470
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Speaker 3: You're looking at and even co Zeal to an extent.

471
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Speaker 3: You're looking at real good football players that are not

472
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Speaker 3: outstanding athletes, or at least not the athletes of the Kens,

473
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Speaker 3: or the Michael Triggs or the Eli Stowers. But I

474
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Speaker 3: also think they're slightly better as far as they're blocking

475
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Speaker 3: is concerned. The interesting guy is gonna be Joe Royer.

476
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Speaker 3: There are some teams that absolutely love him. I think

477
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Speaker 3: he's solid. He's probably the best two way tight end

478
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Speaker 3: in this draft when you look at blocker and pass catcher.

479
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: He's just not the downfield threat. He's not going to

480
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Speaker 3: stretch the field the way Kenyon Sadiq will, the way

481
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Speaker 3: Eli Stowers does, even the way Michael Trigg does. But

482
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Speaker 3: if you know, if you're running a more of a

483
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Speaker 3: run oriented offense and you want that tight end in

484
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Speaker 3: tight that can block, which Royor does incredibly well, or

485
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Speaker 3: being short or intermediate range target, he's your guy somewhere

486
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Speaker 3: in Day three.

487
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Speaker 1: And then how deep does this go? Tony a tight end?

488
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Speaker 1: How many draftable tight ends do you have?

489
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Speaker 3: I have twenty one tight ends with draftable grades right now,

490
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Speaker 3: and I had to knock Jeremiah Franklin of Boston College

491
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Speaker 3: off a draft bable gradecause he didn't play that well.

492
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Speaker 3: And then you have you know, RJ. Merriland of SMU,

493
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Speaker 3: who ran incredibly well at the combine played tight end

494
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, was more of a receiver coming

495
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Speaker 3: off the injury he's got a lot of upside. Dylan Bentley,

496
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 3: who we saw at the UH we saw at the

497
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 3: Shrine Bowl. Bower Sharp, who we saw in the offseason.

498
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Speaker 3: I mean, even after the draft is over, there are

499
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Speaker 3: gonna be some guys that will be available to sign

500
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Speaker 3: his priority free agents who I believe we'll have an

501
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Speaker 3: opportunity to make an active roster on Sunday.

502
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Speaker 2: All right, let's jump over to wide receiver here, Tony.

503
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Speaker 2: By the way, this is a good year if you

504
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Speaker 2: want two eight tight ends. There's a bunch of y

505
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: in line tight ends this year, guys that can block.

506
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Speaker 2: So if you want one of those guys, they're certainly

507
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Speaker 2: available in the draft class. Let's go to wide receiver here, Tony,

508
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: and surprise, I don't mean I'm not that surprised, but

509
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: only one receiver of the first round grade, Carnell Kate.

510
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: What set him apart for you the consistency.

511
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Speaker 3: Terrific pass catcher, I mean, fundamentally sound as a pass catcher.

512
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Speaker 3: You always see him, He's always extending his hands to

513
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 3: make the reception away from his frame. Great eye hand

514
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 3: coordination comes back to the football. As we've seen the

515
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Speaker 3: past two years at Ohio state, hums up with important

516
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 3: receptions on third down or when the game is on

517
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 3: the line, very consistent. People were screaming, yell about the

518
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: fact that he was timed officially at five to four

519
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 3: to five three or whatever it was the combine. You know,

520
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 3: big deal. I never saw him as a vertical receiver.

521
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: I know that you did. He's more sneaky fast. He's

522
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 3: an intelligent pass catcher. It's the consistency, the fundamentals, and

523
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: the fact that he was better in twenty twenty five

524
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Speaker 3: than he was in twenty twenty four.

525
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Speaker 2: He know, Tony and I mentioned this on a couple

526
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Speaker 2: of other podcasts that we do here, and NFL put

527
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Speaker 2: out a new website, nfl iq. I'm not sure if

528
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: you had a chance to check it out. So with

529
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Speaker 2: the combine drills, they take all the guys and they

530
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 2: put the tracking data on there for the players. How

531
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Speaker 2: fast there going in all the drills and all that stuff.

532
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Speaker 2: And the funny thing about tape, and this actually matches

533
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Speaker 2: with what I think I see on tape, So it

534
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: kind of explained his forty time to me a little bit.

535
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Speaker 2: His top speed on his forty was actually just as

536
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Speaker 2: fast as the guys that ran in the low four

537
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: fours and high four to three is the Brazls guys

538
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: like that. So his top speed was either just right

539
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: with them or even surpassed some of those guys. But

540
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: he just takes him a little while to gear up

541
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 2: to that, right, which I think when we see him,

542
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: he's not an explosive player, right, He's not a guy

543
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 2: that's going to go zero to forty in the blink

544
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Speaker 2: of an eye. So I think his start, which you

545
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: know a lot of the combine training and the track

546
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: guys and to be better at the start, that's what

547
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: took his time down. But his long speed, which is

548
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Speaker 2: what we see on tape when he's getting deep and

549
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 2: getting past guys, even with the GPS data that was

550
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Speaker 2: there when he ran the forty yard dash.

551
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Speaker 3: And to your point, if you go you look, he

552
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: was officially given a one to six to one ten

553
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 3: yard split, which is terrible. I mean, you look, there

554
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: was some defensive lineman that you know, were the linebackers

555
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 3: had that were better than one six one. I mean,

556
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 3: he should have been in the mid one fives for

557
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: the first uh for the first ten yards. But that

558
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: really just confirms your your suspicion there.

559
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was interesting, all right, And Tony,

560
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: you were five guys with what I will call borderline

561
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: first round grades at wide receiver.

562
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: Go through all five.

563
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: But kay Lemon tremendous route runner, outstanding pass catcher. I

564
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 3: love his tenacity, I love the way he competes for

565
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: the footballall you know, he does not back down to

566
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 3: a challenge. He wants the ball, he goes after it.

567
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: I think even though I have Carnell Tait as the

568
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: highest rated receiver, it wouldn't surprise me if Makay Lemon

569
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: is the first receiver selected, because he's a better fit

570
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: for a team like the Los Angeles Rams, who need

571
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: a receiver who could go receiver with that first pick,

572
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,239
Speaker 3: then a Carnell tape, So it wouldn't surprise me if

573
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: he ends up as the first receiver re selected. Jordan

574
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 3: Tyson great receiver, great route runner, shows a lot of

575
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: football intellect, catches the ball incredibly well. Was double team

576
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: by opponents if you watch the film, had the safety

577
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 3: shaded over towards him, still came in with the ball.

578
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: He's not super fast and the injuries are a big issue,

579
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Speaker 3: and the injuries go back to twenty twenty four, so

580
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: that's got to be that is a problem. I like

581
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: Chris Brazzle more than most. He's fast, he's explosive, he

582
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: catches the ball well. I thought his position work at

583
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 3: the combine was really really good. I mean, he's almost

584
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: two hundred pounds. He ran routes like he was one

585
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty pound receiver. The way he exploded out

586
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: out of his breaks was very impressive to me. He

587
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 3: ran a good forty time at the combine, which you

588
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: see on film, and then he practiced at that forty

589
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 3: time during position drills. Casey Concepcion, I mean I liked

590
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: him just watching him at arms length. When I did

591
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: the film work on Texas A and M last week,

592
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 3: I absolutely loved him. Just explosive again, sort of like Carneltate,

593
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 3: fundamentally sound, always extending his hands, always making the reception

594
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: away from his frame. One of the best run after

595
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: the catch receivers in this draft. Great job consistently coming

596
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: back to the ball. Played for a coquarter back at

597
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 3: Texas A and M. That was very erratic with his accuracy.

598
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: And oh yeah, by the way, he's also a game

599
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: breaking return specialist. So if you're looking for a receiver

600
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: that can take the top off the defense and can

601
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: also double as a kick and punt returner.

602
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: It's Casey conception on nice group and then you go

603
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: to the second round here Tony and I think Omar

604
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: Cooper Junior is excellent. He tested well at the combine.

605
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: I think his tape is also very strong. Denzel Boston

606
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: out of Washington, big long, physical, he did not tested

607
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: the combine. I think what he does is pro day.

608
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: He's going to test very well. You know, Chris Bell

609
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: coming off the ACL out of Louisville, the kind of big, heavier,

610
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: run after catch guy. And then you ran Dion Burks.

611
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: Then Elijah Surad slipped into the second round for you.

612
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, Well he's a bigger possession wide out, so

613
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: and he catches everything and he wins out for the

614
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: contested throw. And you know, even though he's not really

615
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: super fast or he's not very quick, you still want

616
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: those guys on third down that can come away with

617
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: the tough catch in the red zone and made a

618
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: lot of those tough catches. We saw it, you know,

619
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: really not only just all the last season, but through

620
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

621
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Speaker 1: And he's a.

622
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: Natural pass catcher. I like Omark Cooper. My only concern

623
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: with Omar Cooper is is this the Omar Cooper we're

624
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: gonna seem moving forward or was he a one year

625
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: wonder because he didn't have a lot of production in

626
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: college until last year and he came up big consistently

627
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: last year and then he ran well at the Combine.

628
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: Denzel Boston, he's a bigger guy. He catches the ball well,

629
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: although he did not have good position work out at

630
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: the Combine. We have to wait and see how he runs.

631
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he's sort of slightly better than Elijah Surat,

632
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: which is why I have him rated higher. Chris Bell.

633
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: If Chris Bell doesn't tear his ACL late in the season,

634
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: he's probably a first round pick. You know, he's probably

635
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: moved ahead of a guy like Casey Concepcion. And I

636
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: love Dion Burks. You know, maybe it's just me. Maybe

637
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: he'll get drafted later. Yeah, he's a shorter guy, but

638
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: he's incredibly explosive. I love the just just the fundamentals

639
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: way this top group of receivers catch the ball, you know,

640
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: extending their hands, making the reception away from their frame,

641
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: the timing, the focus the eye, hand coordination. Burks is

642
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: another guy who you know, like Casey conception on very

643
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: effective running after the catch, has returned skills.

644
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you have Jeremy Bernard, who I think

645
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 2: could easily be a second round pack. He's as steady

646
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: as he comes, like he If you want a safe receiver,

647
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: that gonna be a good slot possession guy. Jeremy Bernard's

648
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: your guy. He's right a sub four five forty at

649
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Speaker 2: the combine. Two and then how many other guys Tony

650
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Speaker 2: having the third round? I imagine Zacharion Branch is gonna

651
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: pop in there. Who else do you have in the

652
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Speaker 2: third round?

653
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: Melachai Field, Zachariah Branch, Antonio Williams, Bryce Lance, and Brennan Thompson,

654
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Speaker 3: the kid from Mississippi State who you know blistered in

655
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Speaker 3: the forty. But if you watch the film, he's a

656
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: real good pass catcher. You know, he's not just a

657
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: guy that is a track start. He gets at the

658
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: ball very well. I'm excusing Jeremy Bernard. I talked to

659
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: Robert Spears Jennings of Oklahoma at the Combine, who plays

660
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: Jeremy Bernard twice last year, and he told me he

661
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: was a great route runner, so I could not stay

662
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: with him out of routes. He says, I was eyeballing him,

663
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: you know, coming off the line of scrimmage, and he

664
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Speaker 3: just ran great routes. And we know he catches everything.

665
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: He's a very consistent pass catcher, just not a super

666
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: fast guy. He's not a vertical receiver. But that's fine.

667
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: Malachai Fields, I mean, didn't run well. Didn't catch to

668
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: me that Malachai Fields is more of a flash receiver

669
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: than really a guy that's very, very consistent. Antonio Williams.

670
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: The injury from last year put him back, which means

671
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Speaker 3: he could be good value in the second day of

672
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Speaker 3: the draft. Bryce Lance great size, great athleticism, was good

673
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: when he was on the field last year, the last

674
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: two years in North Dakota State, and already mentioned Brendan Thompson.

675
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: A lot of people, I'm not one of them. A

676
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: lot of people believe that Ted Hurst of Georgia State

677
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: is going to sneak into the late part of Day

678
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Speaker 3: two after his forty times at the combine four four two.

679
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Speaker 3: We both like him as a receiver. We both think

680
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: he's got great size. My concern with Hurst was he

681
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: ran four to four to two at the combine, but

682
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: then he practiced in the four fives during position drill,

683
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: so he kind of slowed down. He's got to be

684
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Speaker 3: able to transition that speed when the ball snapped rather

685
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Speaker 3: than just running in a straight line and shorts and

686
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Speaker 3: a T shirt.

687
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Speaker 1: No question about it. I'm with you. Draft Season is

688
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689
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Speaker 2: He's a proud part of the New York Giants, uniting

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Speaker 2: Learn more at moodies dot com. All right, Tony, let's

692
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Speaker 2: go to the big boys up front. Let's start with

693
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Speaker 2: the guards. You have our guy Vega Iowana as your

694
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: only guy with a borderline first round pick.

695
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: But then it gets pretty thick there on day two.

696
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: Well, especially with the guard with the manual pregnant and

697
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: Chase Bysantis. Now there are different types of our linemen.

698
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: Chase Bysantis is very athletic. He's an easy mover. He's

699
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: very good blocking in motion. You want to got to

700
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: kick out a pull across the line of strips, he

701
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: gets to the spot right away, fundamentally, very sound blocked,

702
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: with excellent leverage, and he man, he's all so strong,

703
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: where Pregnant is just a molar. He's a punch in

704
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: the face type of guy. He looks to annihilate defenders

705
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: on every single down. Somebody from the USC program told

706
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: me he could be a little difficult at times, but

707
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: he plays like that on the field. Not as good

708
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: as Beysontes in motion, but he's not bad in that.

709
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: It's just Beyontes is really good. So if you're drafting

710
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: early in round two and you want the power gap guy,

711
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna go with Pregnant. If you want

712
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: the zone blocker, the zone scheme blocker, you're gonna go

713
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: with Bysontis. Connor Low of Auburn, very mobile, very light

714
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: on his feet, gets out to the second level, fundamentally sound.

715
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: He's got to get a little bit stronger, and he's

716
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 3: got to come off that. He's got to return from

717
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: that knee injury that end of the season. Kelon Rutledge

718
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: talked to him. He's a fun guy.

719
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Speaker 1: Nobody ways he's for him.

720
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Speaker 2: I had not watched him yet. Everyone said how physical

721
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: he was. Yeah, well, I expecting like his big mauler

722
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: on the field. At the combine, he moved extremely well,

723
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: which is and he's not a really big guy, and

724
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Speaker 2: he plays like a big guy.

725
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 3: He plays like a three hundred and twenty five pound

726
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: offensive offensive guard. But then you see he's he's really

727
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: not that big and he moves relatively well. I think

728
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: that combination of, you know, the fact that he plays big,

729
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: physical football and the position drills at the combine that's

730
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: really going to help elevate his address stock. I'm a

731
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: big fan of Billy Shrauth. I think he could. I

732
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: have him a fourth round grade on him. I wouldn't

733
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: surprise me if he hops into the late part of

734
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: day two. He is that big, sort of immanual, pregnant,

735
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: punching the face type of guy, holds his ground, does

736
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: not give up an inch to opponents. Then you got

737
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Speaker 3: the tackles that project to guard. Brian Parker, the right

738
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: tackle of Duke Coop, projects to guard, had some nice

739
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: had some nice snaps at the shrine bull at the

740
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: position in one on ones. And then Trey Zun, the

741
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: left tackle from Texas A and M who projects to guard.

742
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: Actually watched the Texas A and in film the past

743
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: couple of days. I forgot what game it was. I

744
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: have to go back and look. But Zoon actually played

745
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 3: center at points this year for Texas A and M,

746
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 3: and I thought he was better at center. He was

747
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: more consistent at center than he was at left tackle

748
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 3: when he moved into center the last this past season

749
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Speaker 3: for Texas A and M.

750
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll see if he gets moved. Also, he's

751
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: definitely get.

752
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: He's definitely gonna get moved, There's no doubt about it.

753
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 3: He even told me himself. He's a projector. He's a projector.

754
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: He's an okay left tackle. But he shows a lot

755
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: of ability at center. And it's not a deep center crop.

756
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Speaker 2: And I will say you have a borderline first round

757
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: grave than Iowani from from Penn State. I have a

758
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: true first round grade on my I do have some

759
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: questions about his movement skills, Tony, but man, if he

760
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: gets his hands on you, it's over game, set match.

761
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 3: No doubt about it. That's why that's why I don't

762
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: have a You know, he's definitely fits a power gap scheme,

763
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: you know, to a t. But if you want to

764
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: get your guy, your offensive lineman down on the second level,

765
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: you want him to kick out around the center. He

766
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: may struggle to get to the spot and really handle it.

767
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: By let's go to the tackles here, Tony, and you

768
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: have Francis Manuinoa and Spencer Fano's grades touching with two

769
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: first round grades. And I should note that Fano did

770
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: do some center drills at the combine too, and he

771
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: seemed open to it like he wasn't like I'm not

772
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: playing center, So we'll have to keep an eye on

773
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: that as well.

774
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: With this thirty two in charms.

775
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: A thirty two and eighth in charms. Now let's see

776
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: what the what the arm length is at pro Day

777
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: because you know, like I said, the arm length combine

778
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: the past few years has been really shorter than what

779
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: they were at the Shrine, Senior and Pro Day, which

780
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 3: is why I finally moved malw Weyoga ahead of Fano.

781
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: I think I think Fano's the better lineman, but mal

782
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: Wyoga with those with the thirty four in charms, I

783
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: think it was thirty three and change is the better

784
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: tackle prospect. We'll see what happens. But again, you know,

785
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: Fano again go back to what we talk about. We're

786
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 3: pregnant and Chase Bisonts. I think Fano is more your

787
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: zone blocker much lighter on his feet. Maluoga is stronger

788
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: at the point of attack. He's not bad emotion, He's

789
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: just not as good as Fano, So it depends on

790
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: what you want it to position.

791
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 2: And then Tony, you had a group of four coming

792
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: up here next, actually five that frankly, I think I

793
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: would not be shocked of all five of these guys

794
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: somehow snuck into the back end of the first round.

795
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: With the way teams are desperate for offensive tackles. Take

796
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: us through that next group.

797
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: You have Cayden Proctor, the left tackle from Alabama. Can

798
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 3: he play left tackle? I mean, he shows some athleticism,

799
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: but he also shows some stiffness. I think he's better

800
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: off on the right side. Monroe Freeling of Georgia, who

801
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: seems to be everybody's favorite right now, a tall, athletic

802
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: left tackle, but he's not polished in my opinion, and

803
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: I had the Freeling grated as a third rounder coming

804
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: into the season when he was started less than a

805
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: handful of games in twenty twenty four. He needs a

806
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: lot more work on his game. If you take Monroe

807
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: Freeling in the first round and you expect him to

808
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: be a Week one starter, I think there's gonna be

809
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: a lot of bumps in the road, but he's got

810
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: great upside.

811
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Speaker 2: You know who reminds me of Tony I'm gonna go

812
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: back a little bit. He reminds me of Colton Miller

813
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 2: a little bit when we talked about him a few

814
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: years ago. Tall athletic, but urry raw and you think

815
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: he could help you right away. That's who he reminds

816
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: me of a bit, and Colton Miller's time that it

817
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: turned out to be a pretty good pro.

818
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: He's gonna need he's gonna need good coaching. And the

819
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: thing about Freeing is he's a terrific pay He's a

820
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: terrific in past protection. But he can also run block.

821
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: It's not you know, he's got a weakness in the

822
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: game where say, for No, is not a very strong

823
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: or even Caleb Lamoe, who I'll get to, is not

824
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 3: a really strong run blocker. Max in a Corps spoke

825
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: with somebody yesterday. They think he could sneak into the

826
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: late part of round one. I think he should. I

827
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: think he's going to be an absolute steel outside the

828
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: top twenty five. We talked about him on this program

829
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: Ad Nausea. Caleb Lamoe, who is very athletic, very agile,

830
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: terrific pass protector, but he's got to get stronger. He's

831
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: a younger guy, only a third year sophomore. He's got

832
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: to improve his run blocking. Blake Miller, I'm still kind

833
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: of on the cusp of Blake Miller. Blake Miller was

834
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 3: much more athletic than I thought he would be during

835
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: combine workouts. You ran a five to zero four, had

836
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 3: a decent vertical jump. But I still see a lot

837
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: of stiffness in his game. He's solely a right tackle.

838
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: You can't put him at left tackle. If you do,

839
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna get his quarterback killed. And I've had Blake

840
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: Miller in my database, I rated and have three years

841
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: with notes on him. I think I think he's good.

842
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: I'm just not buying into all the love that I've

843
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: seen about him potentially being your first round pick.

844
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: All right, and then in their next group. I'm surprised

845
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: you I Jennings Dunker listed as a tackle. To be

846
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 2: honest with Antony, I thought he'd be on your guard list.

847
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: Emil Wagner's someone we talk a lot about at the

848
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: Shrine Bowl, Isaiah World. Unfortunately, one of your guys coming

849
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: off of an ACL. Now, team's gonna have to, you know,

850
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: price that into where you want to draft him. And

851
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 2: then Drew Shelton another one of your guys that you

852
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: were high on before the year out of Penn State

853
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: but ultimately had a disappointing year.

854
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 3: That very disappointing year, I didn't really finish the combine

855
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: ran that first forty. It looked good, but he heard

856
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: his hamstring. I mean, a guy that's fundamentally sound a

857
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 3: left tackle, shows a lot of athletic but really needs

858
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: to complete his game. Isaiah World. You mentioned Emil Wagner

859
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: who we saw at the Shrine ball. He's a super

860
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 3: athletic right tackle with long arms who may get some

861
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: consideration at on the left side. Needs to improve his

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Speaker 3: run blocking strength a bit. Listen. I mean with Jennings Dunker,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to keep him at right tackle. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to keep him at the tackle position, specifically right tackle,

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Speaker 3: until he proves that he can't handle the spot.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Tony, just give me final thoughts here on offense?

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Speaker 1: What do you think of this draft? Lass?

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Speaker 3: Overall, I think it's better than what we thought it

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Speaker 3: was going to be. At center, let's forget about the

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Speaker 3: quarterback class for a second, even the running back class.

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Speaker 3: I think the tight ends, which we both liked, are

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Speaker 3: turning out to be a real good class. I think

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Speaker 3: that the wide receiver is a really deep class, some

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Speaker 3: good interior offensive line. There's no star power, you know,

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Speaker 3: there's no great players top except for maybe the Jeremiah

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Speaker 3: Love and the Fernando Mendoza. But I think when you

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Speaker 3: get past pick number twenty, you're gonna get some talent there,

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Speaker 3: and there's some depth at all the positions I just mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think picks.

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Speaker 2: Forty to eighty, I think you're gonna get some nice

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Speaker 2: players in there, right and the second round, start of

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Speaker 2: the third, I think there's gonna be some nice value

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Speaker 2: in there for guys that maybe might not be that

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Speaker 2: different from the guys that are picked at like thirty,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I just I just think

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Speaker 2: there's a really thick portion of the middle of this

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Speaker 2: draft that I think teams can really cash in on.

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Speaker 3: And you know, people on the outside who don't do

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Speaker 3: a year round as we do, look at the top

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Speaker 3: of the draft. They don't see a lot of quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: you know, they don't see those great names, but more

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Speaker 3: and more as I stacked the board and I finish

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Speaker 3: up the film. I like the class, I like the

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Speaker 3: depth of it. And you may just get some guys

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Speaker 3: that are starters on Sunday as time goes on, as

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Speaker 3: they develop their games.

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Speaker 1: So it's on to you of your two round mock up.

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Speaker 2: Unessentially sports, what else should people be keeping their eye

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Speaker 2: on for you?

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Speaker 3: You know? Pro day start. We had a Pro Day

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Speaker 3: report from Navy. Eli Heidenreich just blew people away. So

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Speaker 3: did Landon Robinson, who we both like. We talked about

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Speaker 3: him at the shrinebol Landon Robinson also did some pass

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Speaker 3: catching drills and that's only gonna get crazy as time

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Speaker 3: goes on. Thursday is a big day. It's the USC

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Speaker 3: Pro Day, so we'll keep an eye on that one,

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Speaker 3: Makayle Lemon, and we'll have reports from pro days all

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Speaker 3: the way through the Muff of.

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Speaker 1: BArch and stay tuned the Draft season.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep you update on everything that's happening at all

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Speaker 2: those pro days. That's all the time we have for

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Everybody,