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Speaker 1: Good mornings.

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Speaker 2: Sweet were then Welcome to the No Dunks Podcast, presented

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Speaker 2: by Fan Duel Thursday, April thirtieth, twenty twenty six. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside me,

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Speaker 2: as always Tass.

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Speaker 3: Mellus fans of three to two series, This one's for you.

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Speaker 2: Next to him, it's my top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby,

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Speaker 2: a oh and overyonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 1: Super producer JD. Hello, there is hit.

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Speaker 2: The like button, subscribe five star ratings and reviews. On

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Speaker 2: today's pod, we are going to draft some of the

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Speaker 2: most disappointing players in the playoffs so far.

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Speaker 1: We'll do three rounds of that.

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Speaker 2: We're also going to try and wrap our heads around

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Speaker 2: the proposed three to.

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Speaker 1: One draft lottery reform.

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Speaker 2: We teased it yesterday. Yes, today we talk about the odds.

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Speaker 2: But first some game fives that we had on last night.

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Speaker 2: We got three to break down.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with an epic duel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kad Cunningham scored a franchise playoff record forty five

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Speaker 2: points to lead the Pistons over the Magic one to

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Speaker 2: sixteen one oh nine in Game five of that first

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Speaker 2: round series to.

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Speaker 1: Stave off elimination.

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Speaker 2: All the buzzwords here today Pallo Ben Carrol matched Caid's

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Speaker 2: forty five, but he missed seven of twelve free throws,

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Speaker 2: and he talked about that after Yikes. Orlando still leads

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Speaker 2: the series three two. They get a second chance to

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Speaker 2: advance on Friday night. But Caid Pallo the two number

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Speaker 2: one picks. Those teams got to draft them with the

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Speaker 2: number one pick because they were bad teams if I

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Speaker 2: remember correctly. Good, No, we'll get to that. What a

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Speaker 2: battle though, and Detroit, like we expected, takes us back

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Speaker 2: to Orlando.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kid incredible and then just got enough chipped in

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Speaker 3: by his teammates, just those little contributions, just like we

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Speaker 3: are here in political season, already here in America, where

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Speaker 3: you get those texts or emails saying can you chip

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Speaker 3: in five dollars, three dollars, two dollars anything. The Pistons

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Speaker 3: got enough of that from their supporting cast for Kid.

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Speaker 1: Listen, hey Cuttingham for president.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean he can do whatever he wants,

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Speaker 3: just like our president. He gets to whatever stands.

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Speaker 4: Tobias Harris as me giving five dollars to John Assoll.

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Speaker 3: You know what, It's a bit of a slap in

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Speaker 3: the face at Tobias because he was better than five dollars.

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Speaker 3: He was, he was, but start with kid who was

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Speaker 3: getting everywhere and doing whatever he wanted on the floor.

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Speaker 3: I thought that instead of Franz Wagner in this lineup,

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Speaker 3: they'd go with Tristan's silver just because of the height

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Speaker 3: over Jamal Kin. But it didn't really matter. Jamal Kine

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Speaker 3: was out there. He was abusing everybody throw. He was

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Speaker 3: switching up to Baine or Sogs or Caine or Wendell Carter.

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Speaker 3: The occasional one versus one battle against Bonkerra, those one

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Speaker 3: of those were good. Yeah, those were five. Kid was

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Speaker 3: just spectacically. He could literally get to wherever he went

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Speaker 3: on the floor from up top, getting to that sideline

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Speaker 3: or wherever, and he was so so good. I do

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Speaker 3: say those other supporting casts from the Pistons, so I

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Speaker 3: do want to say they fucked through injuries the entire game.

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Speaker 3: Sar Thompson battling a leg injury and then coming through

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Speaker 3: in the fourth with monstrous blocks. We had to recover.

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Speaker 3: It's the same with Tobias Harris overcoming that ankle injury,

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Speaker 3: hitting enough shots, playing great defense, just really really great

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Speaker 3: and finally the best Jayalen Durham game in this series,

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Speaker 3: which is twelve points and nine rebounds, but it was

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Speaker 3: but still, you know, first possession played Wen del Carter Junior. Finally,

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Speaker 3: how about that. Yeah, and a really big key defensive play.

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Speaker 3: I think when paul Buncarro was bringing it back in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter was the seven game deficit for them,

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Speaker 3: and maybe Pollock Bunco's coming back but or helping the

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Speaker 3: Magic come back. But our managel and during went straight

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Speaker 3: up and absorbed Paula Buncerro really really well there. So

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Speaker 3: twelve points, nine boards. Again, that's a five dollars contribution

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Speaker 3: for John ass Off, I said, two blocks and three

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Speaker 3: ugly turnovers, But that's what you wanted and what you needed. Finally,

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Speaker 3: for the second time in this series, they got contributions

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Speaker 3: from other guys. Win Caid had a good game. You

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Speaker 3: just need four of those. So this series ain't over. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm still taking the Magic though, and hopefully Franz comes

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could definitely tell the magic we're missing Franz,

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Speaker 4: I thought more so on the defensive end, like Jamal Kaine,

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Speaker 4: we probably should have gave him a shout out after

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Speaker 4: the big dunk, like he deserved to get a start.

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Speaker 4: And that's when I think eight points and nine rebounds

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Speaker 4: in game four. So you're like, Okay, we'll try it again,

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Speaker 4: see if he's got the magic again. Pun not intended,

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Speaker 4: but you know, just beautiful anyways. But he looked small.

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Speaker 3: I thought, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Last night, compared to Kaid Cunningham. Caid realized, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: can just push him off. There's a lot of times

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Speaker 4: when kid would get into his body, give him the

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Speaker 4: little forearm shiver, just hit a jumper over the top.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Black is another option for the magic. He's a

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Speaker 4: little quicker probably than kan Is, but he's still scared.

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Speaker 4: So I wonder exactly how he would fare against Cad.

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Speaker 4: But uh, I thought the off the dribble three pointers

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Speaker 4: from Cunningham were kind of life savers for the Pistons.

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Speaker 4: Orlando loves to pack the paint. They'll put it five

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Speaker 4: guys there, they'll go under every screen. For Cad, he's

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Speaker 4: got to hit some pull ups. He hit three of

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Speaker 4: them last night. Hit another couple on catch and shoots.

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Speaker 4: As well. Five threes was half that the Pistons made

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Speaker 4: last night, and they needed every single one of it.

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Speaker 4: It's like when John ossof emails me and says, I'm desperate, right,

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Speaker 4: please save me. That was Tobias Harris hitting thirteen of

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Speaker 4: his twenty one in the second half. That was Caid

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Speaker 4: knocking down threes. That was a Duncan Robinson three here

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Speaker 4: and there. A good game for the Pistons to be

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Speaker 4: able to pull this off. Now they just got to

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Speaker 4: do it again in game six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kid decided, look, if we're gonna lose as the

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Speaker 2: number one seed to the eighth seed, and we had

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Speaker 2: a sixty win season and we did all this, but

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Speaker 2: we're gonna lose here potentially in five last night. It

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Speaker 2: ain't gonna because of me and me like hiding in

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Speaker 2: the shadows or obviously not taking control. Yeah, he put

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Speaker 2: his head down, He got to the line a ton,

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Speaker 2: hit all his free throws too. Fourteen to fourteen had

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Speaker 2: the three ball going and he shot a lot of times.

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Speaker 2: You know, especially when you considering all the free throws

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Speaker 2: that you got there. He's like, he played forty four minutes.

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Speaker 2: He's like, we're going back to Orlando. I'm dragging this there.

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Speaker 2: I need a little bit of help. And yeah, they

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Speaker 2: a bunch of rebounds, and Tobias Harris coming through with

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Speaker 1: Just a little bit of.

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Speaker 2: Help to take the pressure, some pressure off Caid. Whereas

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Speaker 2: you know Paolo was doing Paolo was catching fire there

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Speaker 2: at the end. I mean, look, it looked like, wow,

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Speaker 2: is he gonna do this? Is he going to close

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Speaker 2: him out there? But it was really, really fun. These

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Speaker 2: two guys were on fire there for stretches of this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the during contribution started from the get go. Put

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Speaker 3: him in the post. We need him. So he gets

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Speaker 3: the first possession, he gets a bucket that he doesn't

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Speaker 3: usually get scores in the post and Cad threw that

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Speaker 3: one pick and roll to him where he threw it

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Speaker 3: down like it's a thrunker or it was an and

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Speaker 3: one from four feet away from the rim. That was

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Speaker 3: pretty cool. So you got enough there well, Caid. Although

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Speaker 3: you know he operates in pick and the magic, try

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Speaker 3: to get him all the way to the sideline, and

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Speaker 3: his first three was literally on the sideline from the top.

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Speaker 3: He got all the way there because Suggs covered him

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Speaker 3: so well. It was looking a little like Kawhi in

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Speaker 3: the twenty nineteen finals where he got the four bounced shot,

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Speaker 3: like it wasn't quite the corner, but it was all

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Speaker 3: the way there. So he was just he was special.

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Speaker 3: But did you think Paul Bencarro is going to be

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Speaker 3: able to do it in the fourth quarter? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think the Pissons just did enough to get that

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Speaker 2: They held they did for sure, and now now we

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Speaker 2: moved to Game six, and like, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Franz Wagner is going to return for Game six or

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Speaker 2: even this series. This is a calf injury, and these

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Speaker 2: you know, we've seen guys try and play through calf

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Speaker 2: injuries in these high stake, high stakes, playoff pressure games,

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Speaker 2: and it's gone very badly where you're you know, calf injuries,

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Speaker 2: suddenly a torn achilles, so you know, then you're missing

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Speaker 2: all of next season potentially if that were to happen,

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Speaker 2: who knows, who knows the severity of it. We were debating, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: would they at least send him out here for Game

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Speaker 2: days rest to then try and return to Orlando.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. I don't know, but I'm not convinced

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Speaker 1: he's going to come back, Yes, sir, but that doesn't

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Speaker 4: Also, true is a pretty tight game, yeah, and it

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Speaker 4: was winnable there for the magic in the end. My

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Speaker 4: guess is that Franz will try and give it a go.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Tyre's Halliburton. He did play a game on

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Speaker 4: an injured calf last year, and then Game seven is

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Speaker 4: when he actually tore it. So maybe Franz shows up

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Speaker 4: and it's the same sort of thing as it was

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Speaker 4: in Game four. He plays three quarters of the game

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Speaker 4: think he who knows, who knows, He's got a couple

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Speaker 4: of days here. He can at least give it a shot.

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Speaker 4: But the magic can be better, literally, make a free throw.

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Speaker 4: I was staring at the box score last night, adding

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Speaker 4: up to the makes and how many points these are

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Speaker 4: worth in my head because it just didn't really compute

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Speaker 4: to me. Detroit only made one more shot last night,

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Speaker 4: thirty eight to thirty nine for the Pistons. But Orlando

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Speaker 4: made seven more three pointers, so I had to I

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Speaker 4: was like doing this mathema so many times, Like it

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Speaker 4: doesn't make sense that they would be so far ahead

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Speaker 4: in three points. But sixteen of thirty from the free

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Speaker 4: throw line for the for the piss for the Magic,

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Speaker 4: twenty eight of thirty five from the line for the Pistons. Literally,

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Speaker 4: make your free throws an you win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and again Paul said that he was talking

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Speaker 2: about Spell specifically because he missed a ton, but the

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Speaker 2: whole team missing basically half their free throws on a

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Speaker 2: decent amount of attempts. It's pretty rough. That's otherwise you

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Speaker 2: maybe do pull this out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So they could easily win Game six because

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Speaker 3: it was so close. And lots of good threes because,

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Speaker 3: as you said, Trey, they hit seven more threes than

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Speaker 3: the Pistons did. Lots of good three point shooting, surprising

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Speaker 3: from the Magic. Paul Buncaro six of eleven, Desmond Bayne

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Speaker 3: four of ten, Okay, that's not surprising. Anthony Black four

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Speaker 3: of six, yeah, and Jalen Sucks, who's been pretty poor

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Speaker 3: all postseason. We'll get into the most disappointing players from

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. He will be mentioned. Two of five from

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Speaker 3: him forty percent. It's great, so you know it all

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Speaker 3: balanced out. I don't know what their true shooting percentage

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's prettyfrect. Yeah, you like that call? Yeah, yea, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we've heard it before that I could remember.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they had some fun with it. The idea

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Speaker 2: Right, so game six, Look, we got three. Game six

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Speaker 3: I can tie my shoe standing up, no prood at all,

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Speaker 3: Like he's got a spongebobs on his shoe. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean that they appear to be black and yet well,

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Speaker 2: let's move on then to uh Dennis Shrewder scoring eleven

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Speaker 4: Great question?

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, they put up a fight in this game,

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Speaker 2: We'll get and give all the credit to the Cavs

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Speaker 1: Of the boys. Oh yeah, I know it's a loss

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Speaker 3: I wasn't concerned about the brandon Ingram injury. They scored

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Speaker 1: Hit a lot of threes until they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did, they were shed was awesome, Walter was awesome,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but one hundred and twenty points for this team

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Speaker 3: is very, very big compared to what happened in Game four.

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Speaker 3: the guy was running off maked free throws, made free throws.

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Speaker 3: I just ain't mad. And despite that fourth quarter, which

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I me mad.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a stretch to say that Shooter

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Speaker 2: this game five goes without him going off, using his speed,

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Speaker 2: showing his willingness to attack, attack, attack, attack in that

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Speaker 2: They just ran out of those money balls, and they

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Great audio caught by Kenny Atkinson, cass Head coach,

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Speaker 2: But that's what I just that's twenty four to three

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Speaker 1: I'd rather be Shed than them.

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Speaker 3: could only think of Jamal shed he didn't really care

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00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 3: about saying Jacoby Walter, but I thought coming out of

434
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 3: half watching Evan Mobley miss a bunny on their first

435
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,440
Speaker 3: possession and they're down double digits. I think PJ. Carlstmo

436
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,120
Speaker 3: said it on the broadcast, They're going to keep losing

437
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 3: or keep getting down in this game if their bigs

438
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,160
Speaker 3: can't hit shots. And it was totally true. But then

439
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 3: Don Mitchell picked it up. Jared Allen hit a shot,

440
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,360
Speaker 3: and then you had that huge, mobiley dunk. It kind

441
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 3: of like a little pump into his dunk, and then

442
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 3: you got a big to big passing from Jared Allen

443
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 3: and then the three ball started for him. Had a

444
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 3: big block on Barnes in the fourth quarter, so those

445
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 3: guys came alive. His best game of the series, no question.

446
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 3: Twenty three points for him. As you guys said, the

447
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 3: lines there they had. They had some other contributions, like

448
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 3: when the Raptors were a big in the second quarter,

449
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 3: you got a sam Merril five oh run to keep

450
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 3: them alive, and they got enough until the Dennis Shruder Show,

451
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 3: which we have all seen before.

452
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,959
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we sort of predicted this.

453
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 2: We're like, at one point in this series, Dennis Struder

454
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: is going to win him a quarter, win him a half,

455
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 2: whatever it was. He won him a quarter, no doubt

456
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 2: last night to get them the five point victory.

457
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 3: But almost had a tech two, right almost, Yeah, yeah,

458
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 3: picked up the other point for you've picked him and

459
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 3: then yes, so.

460
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 2: Look, this is a revenge It's a revenge series for

461
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 2: Dennis Shruder. He's got a lot of revenge series.

462
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 4: Well, he does for every He's played for every team,

463
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 4: literally half the teams in the playoffs.

464
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 2: He didn't like how it ended in Toronto with him

465
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 2: at the party. So yeah, this this was coming.

466
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 1: We knew it was.

467
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: And good job by the Cats the time it perfectly.

468
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 2: It was sort of hard in Mitchell early in the game,

469
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,239
Speaker 2: and you're right, they finally started going to their big

470
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 2: especially mobile in the second half. And then it was

471
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 2: the speed and that just the mentality to attack that

472
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 2: Truder does. You're right, it's that one shot all time.

473
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 2: He had a big three there to set up a

474
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 2: couple of other triples. But it's just he just you know,

475
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 2: he just gets you, like on the hip. He's fast

476
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: as hell and he has an incredible touch to kiss

477
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 2: it off the glass.

478
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 1: Because he's screaming at the rim too.

479
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 4: He almost every time he tried.

480
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 2: Crashes, he's always picking himself up to come back on defense.

481
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: But it's amazing touch that he has.

482
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 3: And the team just had one turnover in the fourth

483
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 3: quarter when they're heavy on turnovers to start the game

484
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: and love. Yeah, kudos to that guy for coming through.

485
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 3: So you're saying that he's played for all the teams,

486
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 3: I guess they want the Pistons to come through in

487
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 3: the first round to beat their Atlanta Magic. He's played

488
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 3: for them, but he hasn't played for them Magic more

489
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 3: more revenge.

490
00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 1: More revenge.

491
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 4: A lot of Herman's on the Magic team though.

492
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 3: Just that'll that'll get him going.

493
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean playing against his fellow countrymen. But uh,

494
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 4: he played for.

495
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: Boston, Yeah, and Detroit, Atlanta Yeah yeah, just not the

496
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 3: Knicks Houston.

497
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 4: He played for Lakers, he played for.

498
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Speaker 1: Not Okay, see.

499
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 4: Under for sure.

500
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he played for a lot.

501
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 4: He's been a lot of teams. Maybe at least a

502
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 4: third of the team, isn't he. I guess he's got

503
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 4: eleven teams or something at this point. But he speaking

504
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 4: of eleven, he only played eleven minutes per game coming

505
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 4: into last night. So absolutely Atkinson smart moved it ride

506
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 4: the hot hand.

507
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I read that that. Donovan Mitchell said,

508
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 3: oh yeah, keep him in the game. Did that happen?

509
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 3: Did he did? Like you say to Kenny, I'm good man,

510
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 3: just right.

511
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 2: Now, Mitchell said, he chose to stay on the bench

512
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: midway through the fourth quarter when he would normally like

513
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: sort of come back in, okay, and like at least

514
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: the idea of like don't okay, put me back in,

515
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: but don't take him out. Look what he's giving us

516
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 2: right now, the jolt he's giving us. Then, obviously, like

517
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: Trey said, they sort of decided to go small, and

518
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: I think a part of that, yeah, the banged up

519
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: Barns and obviously a lot of guards out there for

520
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: the for the reps too. But yeah, man just came

521
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: up short game six Friday night. Though you think we

522
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: got a game seven baby in this one, because you

523
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 2: don't seem all that concerned about the brandon Ingram injury.

524
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 2: I mean he could miss game six. I know he

525
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: was not looking good and has not been good, and

526
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: he was okay a game four he had twenty three points.

527
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, a lot from the free throw line. Yeah,

528
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: excuse me, now, I'm not so concerned. I mean RJ.

529
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: Barrett has been really solid. Good, He's really good, I think. Yeah,

530
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 3: he's been really good, and call him the second best

531
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: player on the team. Yeah, car Perle is alive, doing

532
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 3: lots of his best game.

533
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I thought he got picked on quite a

534
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 4: bit in the fourth quarter and.

535
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 2: The fourth Yes, he was actually contributing on the offense.

536
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: And then early in the game. Yes, he's catching some

537
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: of those Scotty Burnes passes besides the one that hit

538
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: him in the head.

539
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he caught.

540
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: A couple of it, but he only played three minutes

541
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter because they can rely on Calin

542
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: Murray Boyle. So no, brandon Ingram means you're going to

543
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: get a lot of shots for the guys that we

544
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 3: just mentioned, you know, the Jacoby's and the Jamal Sheds

545
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: and the Sandro Mammon, Calish Feely or more Jamison battles. Yeah,

546
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, not super concerned. Unfortunately, brandon Ingram has

547
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: not been great period.

548
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: No, he'll probably be drafted a little bit later in

549
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: the show. Potentially there's a disappointing player in the playoffs. Yeah, this,

550
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: this game five changed my draft board. Fort went lower

551
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: on the brandon ingram. He got really close to the top.

552
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: We'll see if he is the number one pick.

553
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: Anything else from raps Caves.

554
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, new nickname for James Harden turnovers. Sloppy Gym's.

555
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: All.

556
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: Every James is Jim, Every Gym is James. And I

557
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 3: haven't had a sloppy Joe in a long time. People

558
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 3: growing up in my house good stuff.

559
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 4: I peaked in the nineties, for sure. But this is

560
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 4: this is.

561
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: A random story, but sort of related to what you're

562
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: talking about with sloppy Joe's slash sloppy Jims. My mom

563
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: was just here. They just left today. My mom was

564
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 2: not and she'll admit, you know, not the greatest cook

565
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: growing up. My wife is. And anyway, she's asking Nora questions,

566
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: and Nor at one point goes, if I could make

567
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: any meal right now for you, what would you want.

568
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 2: My mom's answer, without missing a beat, was ground beef.

569
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: Oh, and it blew Nora's mind. What anything anything? Just

570
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: ground beef made me think a sloppy Joe.

571
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: So was she was she hinting at a sloppy Joe?

572
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: Maybe?

573
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

574
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: Nora was not making a sloppy joke anyways. James Harden

575
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 3: has a lot of sloppy turnovers. Man, They're so bad. Yeah,

576
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: six of them in this game, and obviously balances out

577
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: with some great shots that he made. But he said

578
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: games of six. He said games of seven. I don't

579
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: remember the other three off the top of my head,

580
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 3: but there's been some bad one.

581
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: He was a little testy last night there too, James

582
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: Harden getting into it with Scottie Barnes on a jump

583
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: ball situation.

584
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: Then an RJ.

585
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: Barrett Harden went over sort of near the Raptors bench

586
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: and sort of wanted to get the ball or Jay's like, hey,

587
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: give me that as a classic give me the ball,

588
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: give me it. Then that's got into a little pushing

589
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: and shoving around.

590
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a chance to put the game away

591
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 4: quite a few times, I thought in the fourth quarter

592
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 4: and short, short, short, short, short from Harden. But yeah,

593
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 4: six turnovers, but I think he only had one in

594
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 4: the second half. It was a completely different half. They

595
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 4: took the cats in the second half, They took care

596
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 4: of the ball, they got more shots. It became tougher

597
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 4: for the Raptors, and that's what the Cavs have to do.

598
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: They have to limit the Raptors transition opportunities because it's

599
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 4: tough for the Raptors in the half court for the

600
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: most part. But when they're able to run like Scotty

601
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: Thrives running, they get way more open threes when they're

602
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 4: able to run. Barreck gets to the hoop, that kind

603
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 4: of stuff, So good job by the Caves to take

604
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 4: care of it in the second half.

605
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: They did also saw.

606
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: Evan Mobley grab a rebound lying on the ground. Yeah,

607
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: I love when that happens. Rebound highlight. Gotta love it

608
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 4: all right.

609
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: Last game from last night, The Rockets avoided playoff elimination

610
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 2: for the second straight.

611
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: Game with the ninety nine to ninety.

612
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 2: Three victory over the Lakers low scoring affair in Game five,

613
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: so they trim LA's lead in the first round series

614
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 2: to three to two. It's here where I remind everyone

615
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: no team has ever recovered from an O three deficit

616
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: to win an NBA playoff series, but the Rockets are

617
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 2: halfway there. Only four teams to start a series down

618
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: O three have even forced the Game seven, So you

619
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: got to you gotta get the Game seven, Yeah, Game

620
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 2: seven from coming all the way back, it'll be in Houston.

621
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: Maybe they can extend the series even one game more.

622
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: But your thoughts from this one in particular, again, low scoring,

623
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: this looking like a raps Caves game.

624
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: Said that about the raps Caves. They both teams got

625
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: over one hundred, but they scored a lot of points,

626
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 4: so that was actually an enjoyable watch.

627
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 3: Ye.

628
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: This I thought was a great team win for the Rockets.

629
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 4: All five of their starters figure finished in double digits.

630
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 4: They only had eleven turnovers the entire night, which limits

631
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 4: the Lakers fast break points. It feels to me like

632
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: the Rockets are playing better and better and better every

633
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: single game. Realistically, they should be up three two in

634
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 4: this series if they don't blow Game three, Like we're

635
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: talking about the Rockets having all of the momentum going

636
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 4: back to Houston to take care of business and bounce

637
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 4: the Lakers. But a terrible thirty seconds means they have

638
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 4: to play perfect basketball basically, so no teams come back

639
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 4: from three to zero, but teams have come back from

640
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: three to one. A lot of teams have come back

641
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: from three to two. That's the mindset. You gotta half

642
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: freed Shepherd. I thought kind of redeemed himself after the

643
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: redeemed himself after the end of game three, hit the

644
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: jumper with two thirty left, then gets a steal off

645
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: Lebron and a dunk the next possession. Jabari Smith Junior

646
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: also botched it at the end of game three. He

647
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 4: was awesome lilast night. So I think if you're a

648
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: Rockets fan, you're saying, are two young guys who are

649
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 4: the goats of game three completely came through and were

650
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: the heroes of game five. That is encouraging if you're

651
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: a Rockets fan.

652
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah. Jamario Smith really really good in this game. Yeah.

653
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: I thought Reid was going to botch it on that possession. Yeah,

654
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: and then it was a no pass possession too. He

655
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: did not pass the ball. He was able to dribble

656
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: into the mid range and hit that shot and then

657
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: stole it from Lebron as it was stolen from him

658
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: at the end of game three by Lebron's poke. So yeah, redeeming.

659
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: Although right after that, like you said, the Cavs Raptors

660
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: enjoyable at the end of this game. I didn't like

661
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: that call that was overturned at the.

662
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: Challenge, huge challenge by Emi and the Rockets staff. You're

663
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: talking about the Tari easton Austin Reeves. Is it a

664
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: charge or is.

665
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: It initially called for a charge and it's overturned strictly

666
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: because Austin Reeves was moving wasn't established, but it wasn't

667
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: you know, one of those scenarios where a guy was

668
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: just trying to get his feet planted.

669
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: Like slide in playing defense.

670
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's allowed to be in front of the guy.

671
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: So that was a difficult one.

672
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: That was big.

673
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I will give credit to Tarry Eastan though,

674
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: for stepping then into the line and actually hitting two

675
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: free throws. And I was like looking it up, like

676
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: this guy like an elite free throw shooter. I didn't realize, No,

677
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: not really, he's like a seventy five percent career three

678
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: free throw shooter. Fine, but that was I mean, after

679
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: the break and after the switch and all that to

680
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: knock both of them down.

681
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: I thought I was pretty impressed with that.

682
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was just a good illustration and representation

683
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: of like everybody just doing enough for the Rockets remaking

684
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: those plays. I thought that was one of Jabari Smith

685
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: Junior's best games. In the postseason. Oh man Easton, everybody on.

686
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: Men.

687
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: Thompson also, so yeah, they got done, They're going get

688
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: this the game sick.

689
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, this could be I don't know.

690
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, because before the series we questioned how

691
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: the Lakers were going to like consistently generate enough points

692
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: without Luca and Austin Reeves and Austin Reeves return. We

693
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: can get into his return and all that in a second.

694
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: But they ended up.

695
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: Winning those games at the beginning because Lebron of course

696
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: leading the way. But then you had the Lucanard game

697
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: and you had the Marcus Smart game. And since then,

698
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: since those first two, call them three games, they've fallen

699
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: back to earth like, not shockingly, but the Nard dog

700
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: is smart. They've given you nothing.

701
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 3: Now.

702
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: LA averaged one hundred and six points six points per

703
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: contest against the Rockets in the first three games. Over

704
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: the last two they've scored ninety six and now ninety three.

705
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: That's how the Rockets are winning this. But a part

706
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: of its LA just going ice cold from deep here.

707
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: Over their last forty nine attempts the last two games,

708
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: they made twelve twelve threes. I mean a sub twenty

709
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: five percent, So they're gonna need one of these games

710
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: to close out the series where it's a much better

711
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: closer to thirty five percent than twenty five percent, I think.

712
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: And maybe it's an Ard dog. Maybe it's Reeves with

713
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: the Russ shaking off a little bit. Maybe it's Smart,

714
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: who's always like you never know. It's like he has

715
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: a huge game and he has yep, a bad game,

716
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: and he a lot of turnovers last night.

717
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, brutal turnovers. This was the bad Marcus Smart game.

718
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 4: But you know they won the good Marcus Mart game.

719
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 4: That's how you got to do it. And like you're

720
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: saying they won when Canard was great. Now he's back

721
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: to being Luke Canard. He ain't gonna shoot it. He's

722
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 4: a little taken out of his flow, I thought, playing

723
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 4: with Austin Reeves. Yeah last night. But they got to

724
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 4: get up more threes, I think is the big thing.

725
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: Only seven of twenty seven last night. Seven's a bad number,

726
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 4: but twenty seven is also an incredibly low number. They

727
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: just gotta chuck more, like we saw the Sixers do

728
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: against the Celtics when they were staving off elimination. So far,

729
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: the Lakers are only averaging twenty five attempts per game.

730
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 4: They're not a high three point team in general. Like

731
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 4: really wants to take a pull up mid range jumper.

732
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: He wants to pump fake and get into the eighteen

733
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 4: foot range. Lebron wants to score at the rim. Reeves

734
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: wants to get to the hoop, draw some files. He

735
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: was good at that last night. I didn't think he

736
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: looked that great otherwise. But they got to figure out

737
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: a way to get up a few more three point attempts,

738
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: like get over thirty here in Game six, and then

739
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 4: that's gonna be tough for the Rockets to keep up

740
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: because if you're playing two point basketball, that's the way

741
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: the Rockets want to play.

742
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see how this chemistry between Austin

743
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: Reeves and Lukenard and everybody else plays into on Friday.

744
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: First of all, coming into this game that had two

745
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: days off that was supposed to help them did not

746
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: help them. One day off going into Friday, Yeah that works.

747
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: So Lebron oh for six from three in this game.

748
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: We'll see how he rolls into Friday. But Austin Reeves

749
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: also a good start to this game. He's three or

750
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: six in the first half, and then he jumps into

751
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: the starting lineup the second half and Lukenard goes to

752
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: the bench to start the second half. So that's different

753
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: for Lukenard just to be in that flow. He was

754
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: over in this game. Didn't hit a shot, yeah, and

755
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: Austin Reeves one for ten in the second half, although

756
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: he went to the free throw line a ton nine

757
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: of ten from the free throw line, so he's got

758
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: a quick one day off here. So there's lots lots

759
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: of interesting stuff in here in this series. And as

760
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: you're hinting, can the Rockets do this yet, it's more

761
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: believable because of everybody, especially young guys like Jabari Smith

762
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: not only a great game but just doing it very admirably.

763
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: He seems like a a vet right now. The two

764
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 3: help blocks that he had in the first half were

765
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: so big. He's not a shot blocker type of guy,

766
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: but those were really big. Those are Hey, I am

767
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: buying into what you're saying to Emai Udoka, And this

768
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: is a series, baby, So the series.

769
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: I wonder if JJ Reddick will switch up how they're

770
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: playing Elprins Shengyun because they're really like forcing him to

771
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: get it out of his hands.

772
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: But will they.

773
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: Switch that up and go more one on one After

774
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: they got forty three point attempts and he was making

775
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: the right plays like he didn't score a lot, but

776
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: that was part of the game plan. They're like trying

777
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: to get it out of his hands. Make anybody else

778
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: beat them, and everybody contribute enough. I wonder if JJ

779
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: will switch up the defensive sort of strategy on him,

780
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 2: maybe play i'llprint up one on one a little bit more.

781
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: We'll see, or will they just roll with this again

782
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: and say no, we'll hit some shots. We've been ice

783
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: cold from three of these last two games. Will be fine,

784
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean, hit.

785
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: Some shots that would be fine, but also Austin Reeves

786
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 4: make a layup challenge. The guy missed how many easy

787
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: layups with barely a defender on him as well? He

788
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 4: looked super rusty to me. He looked out of shape

789
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: and kind of slow for the most part. If he

790
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: makes two of the however many layups he missed, this

791
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 4: is a win for the Lakers. I think they will

792
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: play Sheng gun the same way eight and has been

793
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: playing awesome. He was incredible last night and they still

794
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 4: forced a bunch of turnovers for sng gun. The Rockets

795
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: aren't a high three point attempt team, so maybe they'll

796
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: change it up because this is a way for them.

797
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 4: If the Lakers are doubling, this is a way for

798
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 4: the Rockets to kind of increase their three point shooting.

799
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 4: Got good shooters, but they just don't take a ton

800
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 4: of them. So I don't know. I mean, maybe just

801
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 4: let him eat and play him straight up. He's been

802
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 4: doing a good job.

803
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, we got enough shooting from their

804
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: three point shooters in this one. We've got the Dorian

805
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: Finney Smith game. The guy had two points in the

806
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 3: series coming in. He had two threes in this game,

807
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 3: so his best game.

808
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 4: Thompson hit two.

809
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, toss. So they seem to be growing and getting better. Yeah,

810
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: even though you know they should be up three to two. Well,

811
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 3: the Lakers, there's questions because howell Austin reeves respond his

812
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: body respond.

813
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: Right, does he get worse or like embeed when he

814
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: came back and had a bad sort of first go

815
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: of it and then looked awesome, more dominant. I'm totally

816
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: different players. I get that, totally different injuries. But this

817
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 2: idea of like, oh, yeah, game speed, playoff speed at that. Yeah,

818
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: maybe he is a bit better and maybe some of

819
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: those layups are dropping or shots.

820
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: Are dropping, and it's a different Luke Kenard off the bench.

821
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: It's just a different guy. So you know, if he's involved,

822
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: he can still score. He's a great shooter. But there's

823
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: a bunch of questions.

824
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: Okay, so though those three last night then that are

825
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: going to game six, how many of those three go

826
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: to game seven?

827
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: One or zero one two or three oh three two?

828
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: One? Yeah? I think for sure Raptors go to Game seven.

829
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Yeah.

830
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: I was just reluctant to say. The Raptors home.

831
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 4: Team advantage has been realistic in this one.

832
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 3: Won every game thus far. Yeah, what happens like.

833
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 2: The Calvs never win a road playoff game. I'm thinking

834
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: of the Magic Cats. That was all home wins.

835
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 3: Yep, that's what happened in the twenty sixteen Conference finals

836
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: with the Raptors Calves. Right, every team won the home

837
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: game for the first five games until Game six, and

838
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 3: the Calves destroyed the Raptors in Toronto. I'm a little reluctant.

839
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: Scottie Barnes leg if you can get great shooting like

840
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: this from Jacoby Walter and Jamal shed and tomam Mitchell

841
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 3: is going to have a good game one day. I mean,

842
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 3: he hasn't had one, so I'm a little scared that

843
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 3: they scored one hundred and twenty five points. The Calves

844
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: did and again, no Donovan Mitchell a great game yet.

845
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: So what about the Pistons or Rockets.

846
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: I think the Rockets are my number one pick right now.

847
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: Okay, that's how you sort of rank them. Then sounds

848
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: like you would rank them most likely to give us

849
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: a game seven, baby Rockets, especially at home versus the Rockets.

850
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: Then the Pistons maybe on the road in Orlando, and then.

851
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 3: Unfortunately the Raptors are and Pistons are. That's a wash

852
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: from me. I have no idea, and I really don't.

853
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, tough to figure out what type of team you're

854
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 2: gonna get from night tonight in some of these series

855
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 2: and some of these teams entertaining Game five though.

856
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 1: Last night, Let's take a break.

857
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: Lebron at the free throw line in the fourth quarter.

858
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 3: I turned up the volume because the Mics picked him

859
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: up in that crypto arena. Mike's doing doing great. He

860
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 3: was looking directly at albern schn Gun and he said, quote,

861
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: soft ass call. You don't say that. You don't say that.

862
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: Soft ass call you the only player out here who

863
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: ain't allowed to say that.

864
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 4: That was awesome.

865
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was good.

866
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: That was good because look like you're a softie. Yeah,

867
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 4: and you're complaining about me going to the free throw line.

868
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: Shut up.

869
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 3: That's cool. I love that He's right, Uh, check is softie?

870
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: I mean he'd down all the time.

871
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: Floppies floppies, Yeah, softy floppy. Different definitions for me, but

872
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: I get what Lebron's saying. You flopped too, dude. Yeah. Also,

873
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 3: we talked about celebrity row with the Knicks seeing mcaulay culkin.

874
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: That's cool with Brenda's song, Brenda song. I watched her

875
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: in Running Point?

876
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: You watched it?

877
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: I watched the first season. Yeah, while I was giving platelets,

878
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: sitting there and your arms don't really want to use

879
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: a controller. I watched a full season of Running Point,

880
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: just played it. That's the the series that Kelly Olinick

881
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 3: made a cameo right at the end the last episode.

882
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: I've never watched it, but I know what show you're.

883
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: Kate Hudson's the star Brenda songs or manager sort of thing.

884
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: But I haven't watched the second season. I don't I

885
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 3: don't know if that's going to happen.

886
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: Kelly made a just a cameo at the end.

887
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 3: That's a good question.

888
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: It was a low ankle socks.

889
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 4: It's so weird.

890
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 3: It was so weird. The only basketball player to show

891
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: up in that whole series was Kelly Olinik in episode

892
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: six or something like our.

893
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: Guy Joe Mandy. Maybe he's a writer.

894
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wrote that show or helped he was seeing

895
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: one of those episodes, my conflating stuff. Maybe maybe you.

896
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: Could easily be thinking of hacks. Yeah, where he's a

897
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 4: he's got a there's a great trivia show episode.

898
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe, that's a funny one.

899
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: That's a fun one.

900
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: I also also funny moment this one read. Shepherd threw

901
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: an outlet pass for a turnover. I think this one

902
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 4: the first half and got deflected and smacked off JJ

903
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 4: Redick and the guy didn't even flinch.

904
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice.

905
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: He's ready, ready, alright, we're gonna take your break when

906
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: we come back. Still lots more to get to on

907
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: no dunks here. We'll do our most disappointing players of

908
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: the playoffs draft.

909
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: I made a little four prop parlay here on fan

910
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: Duel number one ten plus points. I think he's going

911
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: to do a better job as well. The Celtics going

912
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: right at and be tiring him out. How much do

913
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 3: you how high do you think Kitas average four points

914
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 3: per game this playoffs?

915
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: Is what's the averaging?

916
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I asked in a weird way. Yeah. Eight, Yeah,

917
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: it's not a lot. You're right, it's eight point eight,

918
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: So ten plus it's a bit of a stretch. I

919
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: think he can do it. Also, he was in foul trouble.

920
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: He's got to redeem himself. Oh Janobe plus fifteen just

921
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: because he's oh g Annoby and he's steady. Payne Prichard

922
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: plus fifteen. He's done that in two of the four games.

923
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: I like that one twenty six minutes last game, so

924
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: I think he can. He didn't play a lot, so

925
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: he can recover a Jwal Murray twenty plus. Okay, it's

926
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: a recovery game for him too. I mean game must

927
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,399
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931
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: All right, if you're just joining us, do us a favor,

932
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: hit the like button and subscribe. We tease this, We're

933
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: going to do our draft for the most disappointing players

934
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: of the playoffs so far so far. We'll do three rounds.

935
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: We'll just go one two three, one two three one

936
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: two three. But to decide between you two who gets

937
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: the number one pick, we always do a trivia question.

938
00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: So I think I have a fun one for you.

939
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: Because we're gonna be talking about disappointing players. The trivia

940
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: question has to do with awesome players in the playoffs

941
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: so far. So it's gonna be one of these that

942
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: hopefully goes back and forth at least a couple of times,

943
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: unless we have a China like response, Miss China, China response.

944
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: Can you name the top seven players who currently lead

945
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs in total points scored? Okay, so we'll just

946
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: start with you tasks, and then we'll go back and

947
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: forth until somebody gets it wrong and says that an

948
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: incorrect name. Top seven total points scored Jalen Brunson.

949
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: He is second at one hundred and forty one good stuff.

950
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 3: Thankfully, that little puzz I know, I know, worry about

951
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: did he finish eighth?

952
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: No, you're good, You're good, Trey Kirby.

953
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 4: I feed his pigs and a corns. I'm going with

954
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 4: Caid cunning.

955
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: Ham number one, one hundred and sixty three total points.

956
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: Good stuff, just had the forty five, had a thirty

957
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: nine in game one. That's a great call.

958
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: All right back to you. Five names left?

959
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 3: Do I go with a guy who swept just four games?

960
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. Can I get the

961
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: point total for the seventh place guy? No, yeah, I'll

962
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: say shay.

963
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: Okay, that's third. Yeah, don't overthink it.

964
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 4: Had a forty two point game.

965
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had.

966
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty five points. Now we have four, five,

967
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: six and seven TP total points.

968
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 4: Yep, Trey Kirby, huh man, this is tough. This is

969
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 4: top tyres Maxie.

970
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: He just made it seventh, one hundred and twenty eight points.

971
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: I get the point total one hundred and twenty eight.

972
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 2: Can I get it one more time?

973
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty eight. Let's go all right back

974
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: to you. This is good. We finally got one of

975
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: these two work. We've never gotten this many rounds.

976
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 3: In question one hundred and twenty eight points. I know

977
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: Yokich is not been his self.

978
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm looking at task his computer. He's

979
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: just looking at teams just qual he's not. Actually, I'm

980
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: trusting Trey Kirby is doing the same.

981
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just looking at the leaders in points.

982
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: I'm just multiplying games played on points per game leaders

983
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: in the playoffs still by me?

984
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: All right?

985
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: Between Cher Tatum, I'll go Tatum. Damn it.

986
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: Both would have been wrong, Yo, Kitchen is eighth, Trey

987
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: Kirby to just see if you can get one more

988
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: So Tatum didn't crack it?

989
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 4: Who would I have said?

990
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: Scottie Barnes, No, incorrect, Okay, wow, Jamal Murray yeah, one

991
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty is Halo Bancaro one hundred and twenty

992
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: nine five and Jaylen Brown not Tatum.

993
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nice.

994
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: I think the guys you said are close, I.

995
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 3: Mean twenty yeah, Yeah, they're right there. The jokers.

996
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: You're on it.

997
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 4: You're on it.

998
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: Okay.

999
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: That means Trey gets the number one pick in our

1000
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: most disappointing players of the playoffs so far.

1001
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: How about it.

1002
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: We'll do three rounds.

1003
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 4: You already know who's going number one here. Everybody knows

1004
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 4: it's Jalen Duran. Yeah, yeah, he had a good enough

1005
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 4: game last night. He had his best game for sure,

1006
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 4: twelve points. He's up to ten per game this series

1007
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 4: on fifty percent shooting. But he's taken thirty eight shots

1008
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 4: in five games. That's not enough. This guy is a

1009
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 4: twenty and ten dude. During the regular season, Kke Cunningham

1010
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 4: goes down with a collapse long and he went into

1011
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 4: all NBA mode. He's going to be quite likely a

1012
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 4: top ten player in the league when all NBA voting

1013
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 4: comes down with you know, all of the guys sliced

1014
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: off for missing the correct number of games. But uh yeah,

1015
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 4: I think he's the biggest reason that the Pistons were

1016
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 4: in a three to one hole.

1017
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: Waited not overthink, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a nice first

1018
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: pick there to get it started here.

1019
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: I got nothing else to add.

1020
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 3: That dude was averaging nearly twenty and ten in the

1021
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: regular season. Now going into last night, he was ten

1022
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: and eight, and those are big dropoffs. And yeah, that

1023
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: didn't really get bounced or bumped up too much with

1024
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: last night's numbers. That ten and eight, I mean somewhere

1025
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 3: around there. Anyways, it's unfortunate. Yeah, it's unfortunate.

1026
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: All right, who's your first pick here in the first round.

1027
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 3: I'm taking Brandon Ingram.

1028
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, man, come on, man, guy's got a heel injury.

1029
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Even before that heel injury. I mean, he had

1030
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 3: a great, great regular season twenty one and a half

1031
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: points per game on fifty seven and a half true

1032
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 3: shooting percentage going into last night, fifteen points per game,

1033
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: fourteen point eight, forty five percent true shooting percentage. Think

1034
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: of that percentage. Yeah, I mean, you said it while

1035
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: we were talking about Game five in Cleveland yesterday that

1036
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: Brandon Ingram had his best game in Game four. He did,

1037
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: he did, but that was just three shots that he

1038
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: made in a row where he was kind of feeling

1039
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: it and maybe that was Glorilla's little pep speech that

1040
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: he talked about. But man, not the same guy. Not

1041
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 3: the same guy. And he looks a lot like those

1042
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: two previous playoff series that he's been in. So it's

1043
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: not that surprising, but it is surprising at the same time.

1044
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, good picks. My first pick here in

1045
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: the first round, I'll go mckail bridges for the New

1046
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: York Knicks. Yeah, who's at this point, Like the minutes

1047
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: are getting reduced because you're not.

1048
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: Getting a lot for those guys.

1049
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: He has averaging seven points per game in the playoffs,

1050
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: and like, this is not a guy that has to

1051
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: be the number one guy.

1052
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: On this team. Of course not. He just has to

1053
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: like fill in the gaps here.

1054
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: But shooting forty four percent, I can barely picture a

1055
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: three pointer he's hit in the postseason. The numbers say

1056
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: he's hit a few, but he's shooting twenty six percent

1057
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: from deep.

1058
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: He's out there.

1059
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: I get it's still giving you a defense, but you

1060
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: need a little bit more. For the Knicks to go

1061
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: far and win a title, You're gonna need a lot

1062
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 2: more from the mckil bridges in potential series. So I'll

1063
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: take him here first overall. And a guy that's like

1064
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: he has no excuse, like, oh, the first time in

1065
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: the postseason, first time even with this team, Like he's

1066
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: been there, he's had great moments. This guy like once

1067
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: upon a time for the Nets in the postseason was

1068
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: like scoring like twenty three twenty four game. Again, different

1069
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: roles and all that, but it's not been great, and

1070
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: Brown has had to make some decisions here about obviously

1071
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: reducing his minutes in this Postseasonly's averaging twenty seven minutes

1072
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: per game actually through five games.

1073
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: So I'll go him.

1074
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: Even though the Knicks are going to likely beat the Hawks,

1075
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 2: there's gonna need more from him as we move forward.

1076
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: All right, Trey, second round.

1077
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 4: As whereas he can get spicy. Yeah, yeah, I thought

1078
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 4: those were the top three.

1079
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: Okay, that that was your list in that order.

1080
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: And like I said, I moved Moblei down and he's

1081
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 4: going to continue to fall down my draft board because

1082
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 4: he had a really big game five and I thought

1083
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 4: his three pointers were very important. So I'll take a

1084
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 4: different Calve. Give me Jarrett Allen. I had him on

1085
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: my list eight points, six rebounds per game. Right now.

1086
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: He's shooting the ball the way he does, you know,

1087
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 4: he just dunks it inside. I thought he'd played a

1088
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 4: pretty solid defensive game for the Calves, especially in the

1089
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 4: fourth quarter last night against the Raptors, but just doesn't

1090
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 4: look aggressive at all. When Mobley was out during the season,

1091
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 4: there were times when they could play through Jared Allen

1092
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: and he would attack even from the high post. You know,

1093
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: take his wonderble and get to a dunk or layup.

1094
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 4: I saw he even change his shoes last night. The

1095
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 4: guy's played in the same pair of shoes basically for

1096
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 4: the entirety of his career, a black kyrie with a

1097
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 4: white stripe. No white stripe. I wonder if it's throwing

1098
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 4: them off. But unfortunately we all remember him saying that

1099
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 4: the lights were too bright, so that kind of just

1100
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: always colors my opinion of Jared Allen when it comes

1101
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 4: to playoff time, and unfortunately it's looking like you need

1102
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: some sunglasses.

1103
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: I had him on my list too, because especially when

1104
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: you consider in this series we have talked a lot

1105
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: about how crappy Yaka Pearl has been, but I mean

1106
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: it's the numbers are comparable, very similar, and there hasn't

1107
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: been a whole lot of talking about Jared Allen and

1108
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: really the lack of what he's giving the Calves on

1109
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: that side. So yeah, I think Jared Allen had to

1110
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: be drafted in here, agreed, especially being he is a

1111
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: better player I think at this point in their careers

1112
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: than Yaka Purl.

1113
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: But it's been bad here, he's been bad, So.

1114
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, nine point six boards, forty three percent from the

1115
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: free throw line.

1116
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: Wow, how does that happen?

1117
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 3: You've got a big drop off from the free taken

1118
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 3: a lot, I assume, but no, but still is that

1119
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 3: is crazy? Yeah? And the raptor second chance points have

1120
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: been a problem. Yes, I tell yesterday. Yesterday he was

1121
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 3: way better and so it seems like both Jared Allen

1122
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: and Evan Mobley had a better game five.

1123
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mobley's been much better than Jared Allen.

1124
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if he's at times in the series, hasn't

1125
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: you know, played up to his expectations. Yeah, Allen's sort

1126
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: of been a like Pearl pretty rough here overall. Okay,

1127
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: Jared Allen's gone where you go tests.

1128
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: Hmmm, it's a Denver nugget to me. I debated between

1129
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 3: Jokic and Jamal. I'm going with Kic, higher exper.

1130
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 4: Met I wasn't sure what to do with these guys

1131
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 4: because they are putting up gigantic, huge numbers counting stats,

1132
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 4: but also, like I've watched the games, they're not playing

1133
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 4: up to their standards.

1134
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: No. One hundred and twenty seven total points for Niko Jokic,

1135
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: I guess he's ninth on the list. That's a lot

1136
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: of points. But he's far less efficient than he was

1137
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: in the regular season. He is an efficient dude, sixty

1138
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 3: seven sent true shooting percentage. You know your twos, your

1139
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 3: threes are free throws. Now he's at fifty three point seven.

1140
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: Whether it's Rudy Gobert in his head, he just doesn't

1141
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: look right. And sometimes Rudy Gobert blocking the crap out

1142
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 3: of him. Those are great, but he's just not looking

1143
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: right in terms of how aggressive he is and his touch.

1144
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: Where has it got? So he looks like a different player.

1145
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: You could also throw other nuggets, not maybe on the

1146
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 2: superstar level of You'll Kitchen Jamal Murray. In the conversation here, right,

1147
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 2: Cam Johnson, Christian Brown, and we even said his name

1148
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: in the series.

1149
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 3: No nothing, Yeah, I would have taken. But I get

1150
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: Christian Brown more so than because Cam Johnson. He hasn't

1151
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 3: been good and there has been opportunities for him to

1152
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: be good, but he also did the same thing in

1153
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 3: the regular season, so the expectations were low. But still yeah,

1154
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 3: either way, Big.

1155
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 4: Game five too, all.

1156
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: Right, I'm taking honestly now I think about it, a

1157
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: pretty similar player to mckail Bridges in the playoffs so far,

1158
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: Derek White, nice of the Boston Celtics. He is also

1159
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 2: not scoring a ton, just like mckail Bridges, He's scoring

1160
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 2: eight points per game. Derek White is you know, some rebounds,

1161
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: some assists. Again like Bridges. Defensively, he's never gonna let

1162
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: you down. But it's weird to see Derek White shooting

1163
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: under thirty percent, And when you're shooting under forty percent

1164
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, everybody's like, WHOA, what's wrong? Under thirty percent?

1165
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: Guy can't hit a shot to save his life twenty

1166
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: one percent from deep on a lot of attemps.

1167
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: Still, he's going to keep firing away.

1168
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm pretty convinced he's going to have a breakout game

1169
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: here at some point too, either in this series orus

1170
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: Philadelphia or the next. But this is bad so far

1171
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: through five. So I'll take Mikail Bridges and Derek White

1172
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: sort of similar to what we've gotten from both these guys,

1173
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: and they're sort of pecking order to their teams and

1174
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: their importance to their team's long term success here. And

1175
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: he was like, Derek White was pretty good last year

1176
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 2: in the postseason, So yeah, really good. I'll go Derek

1177
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 2: White off the board one more round.

1178
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 4: Derek White and Michale Bridges. Huh, they're going to go

1179
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 4: up against each other. I never like has a better series.

1180
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 4: They'll probably win the series, honestly.

1181
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, final pict Trey, It's tough. Got I got

1182
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: a long list name lets saw some names though, Why not?

1183
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: You want to just say some names?

1184
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 4: Danis Jenkins, Like, come on, dude, the was a Tube

1185
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: Way player. Yeah, it was a surprise that he was

1186
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 4: good at all in the regular season. Cool that he's

1187
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 4: even getting an opportunity. But he hasn't done much. Karris

1188
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 4: Laverty blocked a shot once. Who cares he did dunk?

1189
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 4: He did dunk last night, you see that.

1190
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, unfortunately he passes every time he's got the

1191
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: ball in his hands. He's passive. Yeah, he doesn't want

1192
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 3: to score.

1193
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 4: Passive passive guy. Sugs and Black they're in the mix

1194
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 4: for me, but uh, don Vin Klingon in the mix

1195
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 4: for me. But I'm ultimately going to go with Jalen Johnson.

1196
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1197
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 4: I know he's nineteen seven and five. What a terrible

1198
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 4: series for this guy, But I think he's been outplayed

1199
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 4: by og An Andobi. He's only forty three percent from

1200
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 4: the field twenty seven from three after a really solid

1201
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 4: regular season when he was like fifty thirty five percent. Yeah,

1202
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: he just has looked out of sorts. He looked like

1203
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: a guy who's adjusting to having a monster role for

1204
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: a playoff team, being at the top of the game plan.

1205
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: How do I deal with a defender like og Anobi

1206
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 4: or Josh Hart. And the Josh Hart part of things

1207
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 4: is a little bit more so why I'm going with

1208
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 4: Jalen Johnson here, because that's just like a classic game

1209
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: plan thing, like we're gonna put our ordinary little guy

1210
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 4: on you can you figure out how to beat him?

1211
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 4: And I don't feel like Jalen Johnson really has. He's

1212
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 4: been pretty inconsistent, Like there will be a game you

1213
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 4: can go for nineteen nice, but it'll be fourteen and

1214
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 4: one half five in the next Yeah. He just hasn't

1215
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 4: been great in half court scenarios either. So yeah, give

1216
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 4: me j john.

1217
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: You got two Jalen's that are going to be on

1218
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: an All NBA team, that's truly. So you're like your

1219
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 2: guys are like you're comparing what they've the lack of

1220
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 2: what they've done in the postseason to what they did

1221
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: in the regular season. In Jillen Duran and Jalen Johnson.

1222
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: Who do you have for your final pick?

1223
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: I debated a Jalen as well. I had a Suggs,

1224
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 3: but you know the fact that he's missing a lot

1225
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 3: of open threes. I guess it's sort of expected with

1226
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 3: Jalen sugs, so I didn't got that nine three is

1227
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 3: a game only twenty seven percent of them. But I'm

1228
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: taking Jamal Murray. I'm putting him on there. I don't

1229
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 3: know what's up. I don't know what's up with Denver.

1230
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 3: They may win the series, but the guy is averaging

1231
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: twenty five during the regular season, not sixty two percent shooting,

1232
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: and he's still putting up points, but his true shooting

1233
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: percentage just dropped tremendously, you know, fifty percent. So he's

1234
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: had the opportunity to take advantage of a season where

1235
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: he clearly had his best regular season of his career

1236
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 3: that cannot be debated. But then taking it into playoffs

1237
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 3: where his round one looks like this, it's just disappointing

1238
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: for everybody at the top of the chain in Denver.

1239
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 3: So I'll take two Denver eights.

1240
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, interesting, I mean, like you're taking really, really

1241
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: good players that are still obviously getting numbers, but you

1242
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: can then look at like, I mean, kid's had a

1243
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: million turnovers, but obviously it's doing a bunch of other

1244
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: things like Elprin, Shengun comes up, you know, star players,

1245
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: some clunkers here in the postseason, there's other guys. But okay,

1246
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: two nuggets there. My final pick, I'm swerving here. I

1247
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: guess I'm gonna just run with my theme of like

1248
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: defensive minded guys who are giving absolutely nothing offensively or

1249
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: really struggling with their shot. And I'm gonna give credit

1250
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: to Evan on Blue Sky who suggested to Money Kamara, interesting,

1251
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 2: we didn't talk about him at all during that series,

1252
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: and there's reason why I didn't know. He shot twenty

1253
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: nine percent from the field, twenty six percent from deep,

1254
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: he hit all six.

1255
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: Of his free throws.

1256
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: That was good there, good good job by him, but

1257
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: regular season much better shooting. Splits averaged like nearly fourteen

1258
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: points per game, and that was halfed, just like sort

1259
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 2: of bridges, just like Derek White to Moni Kamara, same thing,

1260
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: you know, to the point where Evan pointed it out

1261
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: an others said, like maybe Splitter should have went away

1262
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: from him a little bit more and went to either

1263
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: Jeremy Grant, which he could roll your eyes at, maybe

1264
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: shooting sharp earlier in the series, and you stuck with them,

1265
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: but just couldn't come through in that series. So I'm

1266
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: picking a guy that's already eliminated here.

1267
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: But that was a good one because it was sort

1268
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: of like sort of got by me or surprised me

1269
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: in that series. And he is a good player.

1270
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was awesome against Aaron Fox in Game

1271
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 3: two when they won, Yes, yes, right, but the offensive

1272
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: vent they were lacking yet, no doubt.

1273
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: All right, So those are most disappointing teams so far.

1274
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: Lots of basketball still to be played. Tray your team.

1275
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 4: I got two Jalen's Jalen Duran, Jalen Johnson and throwing

1276
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 4: a Jared Jared Allen was my other pell Okay.

1277
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: Toss Brandon Ingram and two nuggets An Egally, Yoki, Janda,

1278
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray.

1279
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: And I got a bunch of defensive minded guys who

1280
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: just can't hit a shot right now, Mikal Bridges, Derek

1281
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: White and then already eliminated to.

1282
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: Monty Kamara of the Portland Trail Blazers, who do we

1283
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: miss let us know what about this guy?

1284
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 4: Hey?

1285
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: What about this guy? He sucked?

1286
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: Make your case there right now in the stream team

1287
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: as you are in the comments, you can tweet him

1288
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 2: in as well at No dunk Sinc.

1289
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: On Twitter. All right, we got one more thing we

1290
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: got to discuss. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1291
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: The NBA has disclosed to its thirty general managers are

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Speaker 2: new anti tanking draft reform.

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Speaker 1: It's deemed the.

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Speaker 2: Three two one lottery system that includes expanding the lottery

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Speaker 2: to sixteen teams, flattened odds, and a relegation zone where

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Speaker 2: the bottom three teams would be penalized with fewer lottery

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Speaker 2: balls for the number one pick.

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Speaker 1: Here is a graphic to.

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Speaker 2: Help give you a visual of the odds proposed and

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Speaker 2: how they would compare to the current lottery. The key

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Speaker 2: takeaway is that the odds distributed are to discourage finishing

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Speaker 2: with the worst record, So three lottery balls an eight

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Speaker 2: point one percent chance at the number one pick would

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Speaker 2: be awarded to teams ranked four through ten in the lottery.

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Speaker 2: Two balls five point four percent odds would be awarded

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Speaker 2: to the bottom three teams known as the relegation zone,

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Speaker 2: along with the ninth and tenth seeds in each conference,

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Speaker 2: and then one ball two point seven percent chance of

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Speaker 2: the number one pick would be awarded to the losers

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Speaker 2: of the seven to eight playing game. In addition, no

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Speaker 2: team would be able to win the top pick in

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Speaker 2: consecutive years or win three consecutive top five picks, and

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Speaker 2: there would also be a rule where teams can no

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Speaker 2: longer protect traded picks from slots twelve through fifteen. I

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Speaker 2: think we've explained that.

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Speaker 1: Decently. You know, there's a lot to wrap your head around.

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Speaker 1: I do love this visual here.

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Speaker 3: Oh that helps.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think.

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Speaker 2: Tasks, because this is apparently the new front runner here

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Speaker 2: that they were discussing all these front offices and we'll

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Speaker 2: eventually vote on it. But what do you think of

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Speaker 2: the three two one draft lottery system?

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Speaker 3: I think it's better than the eight percent odds being

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Speaker 3: allowed for all of the bottom ten teams that was

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Speaker 3: the other proposal, because that separation I think just allows

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Speaker 3: teams to just say, oh, let's go stink at least

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Speaker 3: here with the relegation what did you call it, the

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Speaker 3: relegation relegation zone is the relegation zone and teams from

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Speaker 3: trying to lose all the way to the bottom. I

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Speaker 3: think that is an improvement. So I think that part

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Speaker 3: is definitely improved. And if you're one of those bottom three,

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Speaker 3: you could fall as low as the twelve pick. If

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Speaker 3: you have one of the three worst you could fall,

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Speaker 3: you could fall, unlike now when you could follow just

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Speaker 3: four slots, you could fall all the way to the twelve.

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Speaker 3: So I know it's convoluted.

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Speaker 1: I'm laughing because yeah, it's that sounds insane to me.

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Speaker 3: That if you have a bottom three record that you

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Speaker 3: could fall all the way to twelve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. It's like these this is we

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Speaker 2: have the draft to help bad teams get better, and

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Speaker 2: now you really could be really screwing teams any chances to.

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Speaker 2: Obviously there are other ways to get better, but this

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Speaker 2: is a huge part. Draft young talent and keep them

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Speaker 2: under contract for a while to obviously build up your franchise.

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Speaker 2: So it's like this, this relegation zone and this fact

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Speaker 2: that you could go so far down. I don't love it,

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Speaker 2: but I'm sort of on record already. I don't even think.

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Speaker 2: I think we're trying to fix a problem that doesn't

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Speaker 2: even exist personally.

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Speaker 1: That's my take. But what you what are your thoughts TK.

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Speaker 4: I think there are parts of this that I like.

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Speaker 4: I think it does discourage tanking because if you've got

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Speaker 4: the worst record in the league and you dropped at twelfth,

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Speaker 4: why would you possibly want to be the worst record

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Speaker 4: in the league. Why would you want to be in

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Speaker 4: the bottom three? You would be fighting hard to get

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Speaker 4: in four through ten. If you're in fourth through ten,

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Speaker 4: you're going to be fighting hard to stay out of

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Speaker 4: bottom three. So I do think it helps discourage tanking

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Speaker 4: at the very bottom of things. I think this is

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Speaker 4: very bad news for US fans of the pit because

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Speaker 4: if you're in the play in tournament, why would you

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Speaker 4: want to be in it?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: Like you can get eight percent odds by finishing eleventh,

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Speaker 4: that's awesome. Yeah, eleventh right now is like three percent odds.

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Speaker 4: So I think that will be players or teams getting

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Speaker 4: out of the play in tournament, like losing out of

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Speaker 4: the play in tournament to get good lotteryal.

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Speaker 1: Is that's a thousand times worse than what's happening now.

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Speaker 1: If that is the case, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true.

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Speaker 2: Teams tanking for the play in tournament to actually try

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Speaker 2: and get in the playoffs. I'm agreeing with you, by

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Speaker 2: the way. Yeah, you'd almost be wise to do if

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Speaker 2: you're like, well, what are we going to do in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs? Then who gives a shit game in March

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Speaker 2: between bad teams? Of course, sitting guys and all that,

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Speaker 2: two of right now in the system helped their chances

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess you're saying, oh, well, those

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Speaker 1: two teams will now try in March in that game

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Speaker 1: because they want to get out of the bottom relegation zone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I think the other's way worse. The unintended consequences

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Speaker 1: of this, I think are if this happens, are bad.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is good at all. I don't

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Speaker 1: get it. We just talked about We're talking about the Spurs,

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Speaker 1: the Wolves, the Pistons. These are like they got high

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Speaker 1: picks because they were bad, and now they're turned it around.

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Speaker 1: That's why point period, they got good players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you could still get good picks.

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Speaker 2: You could.

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of the number one picks are

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Speaker 3: not the worst record in the NBA. They fall into

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Speaker 3: that four or five six, that's what generally happens in

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Speaker 3: the NBA. It's not the worst record. Right, So when

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Speaker 3: the regular season, it does discourage you from being the

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Speaker 3: bottom three because it's only five point four percent versus

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Speaker 3: is eight percent. You know why that's a high percentage,

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Speaker 3: that eight percent. I think it makes it. I think

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Speaker 3: it makes way more sense than they just the flat

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Speaker 3: the flattening of all the odds.

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Speaker 2: Okay, then go back to the way we used to

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Speaker 2: have it, where the worst team you were, the better

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Speaker 2: chances you had as a number one thing.

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Speaker 3: Well, that doesn't discourage tanking.

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Speaker 2: No, no, well, I think we're just moving where tanking

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Speaker 2: is going.

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Speaker 3: To happen here into four to ten.

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Speaker 1: You mean, yeah, exactly. I don't see how it's better though.

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Speaker 4: That's like I said, we'll have teams that are not

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Speaker 4: under twenty wins now, right, teams that the worst teams

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Speaker 4: will have twenty three wins instead of seventeen wins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the way Sean Cheran you sold it

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Speaker 3: on ESPN, he said, those teams in the four to

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Speaker 3: ten will want to beat down on the teams below

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Speaker 3: them or not want to lose, right, They want to

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Speaker 3: stay up there instead of dropping down. So that's the

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Speaker 3: way it's sold. But yeah, of course it's going to

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Speaker 3: be tanking in general, teams are going to want to

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Speaker 3: get a draft pick.

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Speaker 4: This does make four games against teams that have been

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Speaker 4: eliminated from postseason contention makes it better? Yeah? Like it?

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, okay, yeah, Bucks, Campton, Pelicans. It matters more now. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And that was the big problem. As you would turn

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Speaker 4: on the TV, there's ten games in the night, and

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Speaker 4: four of them don't matter at all, which is why, like,

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Speaker 4: local attendance was down, local TV ratings were down because

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Speaker 4: teams were giving up in February, and now they have

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Speaker 4: to stay engaged at least through the end of April.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the whole point.

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Speaker 2: I do like this, and this was sort of buried

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Speaker 2: in a lot of the articles about this. Under the

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Speaker 2: proposal here, the league would have expanded disciplinary authority to

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Speaker 2: regulate tanking by having the option to reduce teams lottery

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Speaker 2: odds and or modify teams draft possessions. This, to me

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Speaker 2: is good. If you're tired of these teams blatantly tanking,

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Speaker 2: then penalize them, come in with the goddamn iron fist

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Speaker 2: and tell them to stop doing it, and like, yeah,

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01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 2: the fines and all that, you gotta go further. You

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01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 2: gotta go further because teams. Of course, at least I

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01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: think they were doing it because this loaded draft lottery

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01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 2: here and the odds is the way they are still now.

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Speaker 2: I think it completely changes once it's not like a huge,

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01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: crazy coveted draft class. So I think it would have

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Speaker 2: fixed itself, so to speak. But anyway, penalize them, man, like,

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 2: just as soon as you do that, they'll stop. Oh

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01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: my god, they have ten two way guys playing and

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01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 2: sitting vats and all that. I think they would, so

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01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: at least maybe slipped in here is this idea of like,

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01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: if Silver's tired of it because he really wants his

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01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: gone is he doesn't want it to be a talking point.

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Speaker 2: I get that, then just come in and lay the

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Speaker 2: hammer down. And maybe I'm saying more than here's one

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. Fine, it's like buy your pick is

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01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: gone or whatever. Your your position is gone, your odds

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01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 2: are lower, whatever it is, if you're found to be

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Speaker 2: really you know, skirt in the system.

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Speaker 3: Adam's heavy hand is a it's a good move.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have the heavy hand, that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: He's got dainty hands or that little snl skit which

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Speaker 2: she's got the tiny hands. Yeah's Adam Silver. It is

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Speaker 2: David Stern. He had the hands, This shit would not

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Speaker 2: have happened. We would that's anyway. That's a little frustrating,

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Speaker 2: but we'll see it. It's not voted on, it has

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Speaker 2: been passed. It could be tweaked and all that. But

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Speaker 2: I do find all of the timing of this hilarious too.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Because they need to get it in front of them

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Speaker 2: and then obviously vote on it. As we move forward

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Speaker 2: after this draft lottery, we're in the playoffs right now,

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Speaker 2: and like all I saw in my timeline yesterday was

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Speaker 2: about draft lottery reform.

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Speaker 1: Pretty ironic, is it?

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Speaker 2: Like we should be talking about the game sixes and

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: the potential game sevens, and it's like, now this takes

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Speaker 2: all all the oxygen out of the room because everybody

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Speaker 2: just wants to focus on this. We'll see, let's hear

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Speaker 2: from you. People have opinions on this, So that's for

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Speaker 2: damn sure, good or bad. Either they're making the right

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01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 2: step forward or they're like, what are we doing? This

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01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: is gonna make it worse. That's like myself thinks, well.

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Speaker 4: If it makes it worse, the good thing is that

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Speaker 4: they can just change it in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: That's what they did say.

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Speaker 4: They're like, I just try it. We'll just see what's

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Speaker 4: happening here he does anything.

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Speaker 2: That's part of my concern too, is feels like short

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Speaker 2: term fixie. It's like Silver doesn't like all the attention

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Speaker 2: because of what we had this year and the shenanigans

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01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 2: and all the headlines, and it's like cut it in

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01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 2: the butt right now, try something new and then. But

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Speaker 2: I do wonder about these like unintended consequences, Like I said,

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Speaker 2: that's going to like translate from this, but right now,

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Speaker 2: you're right. He's like, I want us to stop talking

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Speaker 2: about tanking. So if you're bad, you're actually screwed, don't

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Speaker 2: be don't be super bad, just be bad bad.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's all he wants. Yeah, then they should

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Speaker 4: call this the Monu Genobili lottery odds because they remove

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01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 4: a ball.

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Speaker 1: It's way better than three two one.

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Speaker 4: The Giant. My notes. It used to be called the

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Speaker 4: John Yeah. Yeah, you know it's more of a twenty

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01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 4: first century yeah yeah, yeah, yeah reference.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't talked about enough Manu's ball, Yeah that removed. Yeah,

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01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 3: we talked about everything we get.

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01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 4: We gotta get the word out. This is their opportunity.

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01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 4: We see John Osoff will put it in his emails

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01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 4: at the end. By the way, another.

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Speaker 3: NBA player that had a testicle removed topitch.

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01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 4: I think you're right particulous that that's the one.

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01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, resent uh litte lit of the Night sponsored by

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01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 2: Murphy aka MAVs muse on X. Follow at MAVs muse

1516
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: on X slash Twitter for Dwight Powell propaganda like this.

1517
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: Dwight Powell has the highest offensive rating in NBA history

1518
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 2: per Status one hundred and thirty two point four minimum

1519
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: ten thousand minutes, and he has a very resilient face.

1520
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 1: Dwight Powell.

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01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 4: That can't be true. Hey, I refuse to believe that

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01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 4: over the course of at least ten thousand minutes, Dwight

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01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 4: Powell has one hundred and thirty two offensive rating. There's

1524
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 4: no chance that's true.

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01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw this sent in to us. I didn't

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01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: I didn't double check it. It didn't seem believable.

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01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: Well, it's propaganda. Doesn't need to be real.

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01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 3: It's totally fake.

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01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember him not Yeah, see, I remember him.

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: I remember seeing this sat going around that he had

1531
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: a crate I didn't know was that high, but that

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01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: he had the best ever.

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he led the league in offensive rating three different seasons.

1534
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, he's that good.

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01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 3: Wild geez.

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01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: MAVs Muse also says I've been watching you guys daily

1537
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 2: since I was a kid, as an old twenty something

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01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 2: year old corpse. Now, Jesus Chris, I'm very glad y'all

1539
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 2: are still going keep up the great work. Thank you,

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01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 2: MAVs Muse, Thank you Murphy, and we know appreciate Dwight

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01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 2: Powell even more.

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01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 4: That's amazing.

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01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you thank for Dwight poul Absolutely, if I

1544
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: want to correct, maybe not well, but goes to Kate

1545
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: Kate Cunningham. I mean, he had a lot of turnover.

1546
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 2: Sure they're not on the graphic, don't worry. Scored a

1547
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 2: franchise playoff record forty five points. Is anybody else surprised

1548
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 2: by that forty five Piston's playoff record? I don't know,

1549
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 2: like I thought, maybe, uh, you know, of course, Isaiah

1550
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 2: Thomas maybe like a Rip Hamilton, like crazy game.

1551
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 4: I was more surprised that Isaiah Thomas wasn't the leader.

1552
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Dave Bing had.

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01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 4: A forty four.

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: That's right, no longer man, Kate Cunningham. Thirteen to twenty

1555
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: three from the field, five of eight from deep, that

1556
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 2: was huge, fourteen to fourteen at the line, five or six,

1557
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: four boards, one steal, forty four minutes played. He says,

1558
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: we're going to Orlando and they are Friday Night. Three

1559
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: games on tonight Knicks, Hawks, Celtic Sixers, Nuggets, Timberwolves three

1560
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,839
Speaker 2: to two. All three of these series.

1561
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 1: How many of these go to Game seven tonight?

1562
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 3: Good luck to all the participants. I think it's only one. Okay,

1563
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 3: the Nuggets Timberwolves. To me, it's a coin flip. The

1564
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 3: Timberwolves could easily win that game, but the Nuggets are

1565
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 3: the one that I believe in the most to make it.

1566
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: So you think the Knicks and Celtics on the road?

1567
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: Y wrap things up?

1568
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 3: Okay, it was a good run.

1569
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: Okay, what about you, Trey?

1570
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, give me the Knicks winning a clutch game for

1571
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,759
Speaker 4: the first time in this playoffs against the Hawks tonight.

1572
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 4: I would take Boston over Philadelphia, and I think we're

1573
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 4: going to Game seven baby in Denver.

1574
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: I do agree with you, guys. I do agree with

1575
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: you for the Wolves, though you need a big Jaden

1576
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 2: McDaniel's game, big, big, big stuff, and he he's done

1577
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: it before, He's had thirty point playoff games.

1578
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I like the Nuggets to give

1579
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: us a game seven.

1580
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 3: Baby.

1581
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 2: We're playing Zaza tomorrow morning on this show, because we're

1582
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: gonna have at least one game seven.

1583
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 4: It'd be great with the Hawks and be perfect.

1584
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: Be huge, be huge zo.

1585
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1586
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: I like the next chance of Lawyer say they've just

1587
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: sout played them.

1588
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: I mean the games point yeah, I know, I know,

1589
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 2: and sometings you just are they gonna hit threes? I mean,

1590
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 2: what type of performance are you gonna get from these

1591
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 2: guys shooting?

1592
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 3: I like it.

1593
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 2: I liked what Max he was saying after that game

1594
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 2: five win as they go back to Philly. He was

1595
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 2: saying something like, we got to give our fans, our

1596
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 2: home base a win because they have not won in Philly,

1597
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: and he's like.

1598
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: We owe it to them. So okay, okay, tyresee. I

1599
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: like that. Uh. I like that energy heading into that game.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see three games on. We'll be here to

1601
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: talk about them tomorrow on the Drop podcast ten am

1602
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: Eastern Task and have Worst of the Week nominees. We'll

1603
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,919
Speaker 2: have rapid fire fun as well. So always a classic

1604
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 2: on Friday, hope to see at ten am Eastern. If

1605
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 2: you're a No Bus Survivor fan, join us at one

1606
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 2: pm Eastern to talk about mister Beast.

1607
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: Mister Beast.

1608
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 2: Big Boy didn't realize how tall mister Beast was. Like,

1609
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 2: look at him tower over Jeff Probes here. I know

1610
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 2: Jeff Probes, maybe not tall, but he's like six or five.

1611
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 2: He's like Tree Kirby's heights, switchable defender.

1612
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 3: You'd be.

1613
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 4: With mister beasts, man, can you imagine I'm just looking

1614
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 4: him straight in the face.

1615
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: Honestly, I can't.

1616
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 4: Exactly. That's sort of like looking at one of his

1617
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 4: thumbnails on YouTube. Yeah, would you do a face?

1618
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk about mister Beast who showed up

1619
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 2: at the Survivor auction last night, uh and actually had

1620
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 2: a crazy twist of the game. We'll talk about that,

1621
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: which Hey, JD. Nora and myself at one Pmmeaster and

1622
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 2: there's a link in the show notes. Come on over

1623
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: and subscribe to No Buffs until tomorrow here in No

1624
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 2: Dunks Land though Clipper Bro you heard.

1625
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 4: It here first. Have a great time turn up. Love

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01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 4: you guys, awesome.

1627
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember, Teammate of the Year

1628
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 3: award was handed out and it was a bigger surprise

1629
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 3: than we all expect. That very true, right DeAndre Jordan.

1630
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 3: The only one who wasn't surprised. Joe dumars I watched

1631
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 3: them two weeks ago at a press conference, say that

1632
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 3: guy pours himself out to his teammates. And it's not

1633
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 3: just on the cameras, it's aid the shoot routes, it's

1634
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 3: on the bus. He said, he's never seen it before.

1635
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: He seems like a great teammate.

1636
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: He does does a deserving winner for sure, first win

1637
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 2: I assume for him, right, it's gotta be yeah, yeah,

1638
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:48,759
Speaker 2: for the Twyman Stokes.

1639
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: Good stuff.

1640
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 2: DeAndre Jordan, congratulations. We'll see guys tomorrow and brace day.